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Speaker 1: This is Deaf Dave and you are listening to my

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good friends Dean Jason on the best show on the Internet,

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the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's the last scene of the movie and

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Patty Birch, the choreographer, has an entire football field that

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she's got to compose this dance number for. Except like,

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there are dozens of people to choreograph, and she's like,

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I can't teach every single person what to do. So

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she's got her core group of dancers and she's like, Okay,

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divide you guys up into teams. You go teach everybody

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else how to do these dance moves. And it became

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this huge competition where everybody was like, I'm going to

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have the best team, which is why you have this

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phenomenal last scene.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's great and everything. I'm a little bit confused though, because.

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Speaker 2: Is this the end, of course not, Jason, it's only

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the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Oh, everybody, welcome back. We are covering Grease the movie today.

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We are not talking Grease the soundtrack that comes next week.

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So it's gonna be a little tricky because we're gonna

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try not to talk about the music today, which is

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really am.

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Speaker 2: Hard to try, very hard, and just as a teaser,

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one of the best known songs from this soundtrack had

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a big change made because of the death of one

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celebrity and then another celebrity dies on the day they

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make the song. If you aren't following our podcast at

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this point, you better hit that button so you can

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find out that story.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Hey, you know what's weird? Also, last

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week I put a tale at the end of this

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because I didn't know whether we're gonna cover Grease next

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or do the IMDb MVP thing. And you made a

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good point. Josh Volta is a great choice for IMDb MVP, right.

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Speaker 2: Heck yeah, He's had like over ninety films, some of

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them are not so good. Our friends over at the

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Famous and Gravy podcast came up with this idea of

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doing the IMDb MVP. If you're only able to have

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the movies of one particular movie star, you know, and

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nothing else, which which one do you pick? Right? And

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his point was you probably don't want a leading man

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because then you get tired of you know, I'm watching

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John Travolta movies every single day, But I mean John

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Travolta is in a whole lot of good movies where

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he's the leading man. So we're going to get together

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with those guys a little bit later on, and we're

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going to pick our IMDb MVPs and pit them head

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to head and see who comes out the winner.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like a lot of fun. I've already picked mine,

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and we've heard some other people who've come up with

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really good ideas too, So absolutely, yeah, it's gonna be fun.

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That's coming here later on, maybe in December.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Jason. Before we go on, I wanted to

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give credit to our executive producer for this episode, Tim Epp.

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Tim has been a Patrion member for months and months now,

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but we I think have cited him as executive producer,

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So thank you, Tim. Sorry for our blunder there. Guys,

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to hear all of our awesome one hit Wonder episodes

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Speaker 3: All right, are you ready to get automatic, systematic, and

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hydramatic about Grease?

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Speaker 2: This is the.

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Speaker 3: We'll begin lots.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can put that in there.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, we're talking Grease the movie. This was released

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in June of nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody knows that this is just the second

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step in John Travolta's maybe third step in John Travolta's

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epic career. Sure, he grew up wanting to be actually

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wanted to be a pilot. He was successful with one,

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it's like, oh, you've been only been flying two years.

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only been flying for two years illegally. Oh wow, yeah,

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to do was sing and dance on stage. So he

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in New York would go and try out for big

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stage productions and one of the productions that he tried

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Speaker 2: Interesting, and he wasn't cast, but one of the guys

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there saw his performance and said to himself, now that

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kid is a movie star. He may not be a

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Broadway star, but he is a movie star.

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Speaker 3: Robert Stigwood, right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Stigwood, who was the manager of the Begs. So you know,

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no small fry himself. Sure if you want to hear

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the full story on Robert Stigwood, which is really a

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freaking fascinating story. The whole backstory for Saturday Night Fever

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is fascinating. But we compared Saturday Night Fever and Dirty Dancing.

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Speaker 2: I believe, Yeah, okay, you'll get the whole story there,

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go check out Saturday Night Fever. But Stigwood saw him

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said this guy is a star and kept in mind

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for the future, so he doesn't get cast in Jesus

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Christ Superstar he is. In nineteen seventy two, he starts

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dozen or so different TV series, little spots frequently like

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guy standing in front of the door, uncredited stuff, right.

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the character of Vinnie Barberino in a little show called

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never heard of it. Oh, this looks interesting, but he's

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like nobody, never heard of it. And then I see

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guys from Welcome Back Cotter, in this show that lasted

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cast of Welcome Back Cotter couldn't save that show. It

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was obviously that bad. But I guess Pat landed on

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his feet. He did. He took over Al's place on

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Happy Days and then ultimately taught Ralph Maccio how to

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iconic celebrities that died that I mentioned earlier is this

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spitting image of Ralph Mancio. Okay, wait, okay, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: That's a great companion. Episode two our Kujo Christine in

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Speaker 2: So exactly exactly. I mean, we might as well toot

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our own horn, right, you know, while we're here that year,

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he also did the Iconic Boy in the Plastic Bubble.

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directed him in that movie. And John actually had the

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period sure to understand this. But we're talking about a

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than two years and Stigwood remembers him from the Jesus

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Christ Superstar audition and signs him to a three picture deal.

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Now that's impressive enough, but you'll remember from our Saturday

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Night Fever episode. He made a lot of calls on

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that show like he was like the dance number. He

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is terrible. You need to come back. You need to

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show my body move and you need to see the dance.

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the director or you the director? And stick Wood's like

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he is making that call, He's the button to do

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what he says to do. This is his first real

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movie as a star, second real movie as a star.

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he's saying, Hey, you know who would be perfect to

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Speaker 3: Noton John. Before we get started on this, tell me

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your relationship with Greece. Now this is a little bit

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before your time. But for me, I mean I saw

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this in the movie there with my mom. I mean

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and memorizing and choreographing. Every theater student there had to

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Speaker 3: Right. And I went to a wedding with a co friend.

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they played Summer Nights and people broke out in choreographed dance.

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It was great. But I asked him about it. I'm like,

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releading the show. He's like, oh, yeah, of course I was.

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Speaker 3: Well, I loved Grease, but I was not prepared to

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break out and dance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so's it's special. They did it at my wedding too.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, okay, well fantastic. Do you want

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to hear the brief history on the musical of Grease.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to the Yeah, let's a movie. Musical

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Speaker 3: That's right. So this was written by a guy named

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Jim Jacobs and Warren Casey. Jim Jacobs is an interesting guy.

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to sing and play guitar in a band and loved

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Jery Lee Lewis. He despised, Grateful Dead, and Led Zeppelin.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 3: He really was an old school rock and roll kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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and they're like, you know, what plays good. We like it,

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but this really needs to be a musical. So at

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that point, Warren Casey decides to quit his job. At

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the time, he was a department store lingerie buyer. There

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to see if we need to buy these Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the whole thing moved to New York City. They

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opened at the Eden Theater in Manhattan, and then eventually

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it moved to Broadway. Now, then, there are songs that

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were in that first musical that don't make it to

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the movie, and there are iconic songs in the movie

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that are not in the musical.

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Speaker 2: One of them literally written in the middle of shooting

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the movie. It's that I can't even believe it the

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one song that got nom dominated for an Oscar.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's I know, and they're so vital to

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the success of the movie, I think yep. So it

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opened on Broadway June seventh, nineteen seventy two. It ran

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until nineteen eighty that's thirty three hundred and eighty eight performances.

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Speaker 2: How many, three three.

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Speaker 3: Hundred eighty eight. It's a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Performer, right, and boy were my legs tired.

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Speaker 3: So at the time, that's the longest running musical on Broadway.

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but still so. Now during its run you have mister

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would make a great movie, and so he buys the rights. Yep,

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Alan Carr purchases the rights. Now the interesting thing is

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that Greece had been optioned to be a movie three

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or four times before.

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Speaker 2: This, Yeah, but nobody would buy it, right.

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Speaker 3: So Alan Carr has the option. Mister Robert Stigwood has

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offered John Travolta a three pick your deal.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I mean, we've already covered Saturday Night Fever.

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We should totally do like a John Travolta trifecta. Right,

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we've already covered Saturday Night Fever. We are now covering Greece,

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and so next, obviously, moment by moment.

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Speaker 3: What what.

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Speaker 2: That was the sour third act of the trifecta. You

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were expecting me to say Urban Cowboy? Yeah? No, Unfortunately

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that was not Stigwood's pick. He was not involved in

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an Urban Cowboy. The third picture was a movie called

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Moment by Moment where Lily Tomlin played Lily Tomlin plays

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a depressed socialite whose husband has left her in Beverly

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Hills who hooks up with a young stud named Strip

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played by mister John Travolta. It was a May December

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romance movie that surprising, he did not do very well.

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Speaker 3: I have never heard of that movie just now.

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Speaker 2: It was the interview that I talked about in nineteen

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eighty where he was talking about flying planes. He was like,

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so you did Saturday Night Fever and did Grease and

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by a moment that didn't seem to do as well.

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And what do you do? Then he's in challengeable, is

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like make the next movie. Yeah, that's right that the

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next movie was Urban Cowboy, and that really should be.

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I mean, when we do our final trifecta, because we've

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got we've got a friend of yours who's like, this

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is the greatest soundtrack of all soundtracks.

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Speaker 3: Mister j Reid, my high school buddy. He was like

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teasing it up. He's like, you guys are not even

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scratching the surface on the greatest soundtrack of all time.

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And he sent me like seven rock and roll Hall

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of Fame members, I'm like, who in the what is this?

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And Urban Cowboy when you look at it, I mean,

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Rel Haggard and Eagles and all these guys. It's a

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good one.

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Speaker 2: You let John travol to take a mulligan on that

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Lily Tomlin movie. Yep, and he in three movies involved

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with three of the best selling soundtracks in history. I mean,

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just think about it. You've got Saturday Night Fever, Yeah,

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You've got Grease, and you've got Urban Cowboy. I mean

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it was unstoppable. Not only that he changed the fashion

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trend in every single movie he was in. The disco

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stuff of Saturday Night Fever had fallen out of favor

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at that point. They put him in clothes that people

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would have been wearing three years before because the bronx

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was kind of behind the times, and then because of

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the movie it resurged after only falling out three years earlier.

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Fifties style comes back in after Grease. Everybody's slicking their hair,

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Guys are wearing leather jackets again, girls are doing the

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palm palm thing right, and then Urban Cowboy comes out

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and suddenly everybody's got the cowboy chick going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, riding the bowl and Cowboy had he was a force.

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It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: I will say this. Yes, before I watched this movie.

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A couple days before I watched this movie, my wife

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was insistent that we watched one of three movies, and

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the one that we landed on was Look Who's talking.

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It was not as funny as I remember when I

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was twelve years old.

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Speaker 3: But hey, that movie was one of the biggest movies

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of nineteen eighty seven. Huge movie. Yeah, And I watched

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it and I was like, this movie sucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not it's not aged well and it's yeah,

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it's not got a good ranking either. It wasn't as bad,

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I think as they've got it, but it wasn't moment

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by moment bad. But that was pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: Bruce Willis as the baby. Ye, okay. So Robert Stigwood,

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who had offered John travolt a three picture deal, goes

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to him and says, hey, I think it'd be great

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for Grease. So John travolt is the first piece in

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this puzzle and turns out, I mean he is the

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guy who okay, is the director, Like he's the guy

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who says, hey, I want mister Randall Kleisner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out he had a great time making

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the boy in the Bastic Bubble. Yeah, he said he

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just he would let the actors explore. He felt like

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that was a huge deal and I worked out really

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well with this.

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Speaker 3: So here's the other thing. I've heard a couple of

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different stories. So Alan Carr met Olivia Newton John at

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Helen Reddy's house as like this dinner party thing.

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Speaker 2: Helen Ready, Helen Ready, Hollywood Elite, right right now.

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Speaker 3: Olivia Newton John had had some hits before Greece. Yeah,

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she'd had a couple of number ones. I honestly love

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you and have you never been mellow? Very seventies sounding

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songs here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so she was big and kind of the softer rock,

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you know, adult contemporary and country. She's cute, she's beautiful,

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she's pure looking, girl next door door, girl next door,

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that's right.

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Speaker 2: The perfect person to play Sandy deep.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, John Travolta said, everybody in the world, every guy

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wanted Olivia Newton John to be their girlfriend, right, perfect Sandy.

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Speaker 2: And when I heard him say that, I thought, and

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every girl in the world wanted John Travolta to be

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their boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Like, of course this movie was going to explode like

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it did. That's right. I just want to say, in

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the succession of movies I also saw I can't remember

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if it was seventy eight or seventy nine. There's a

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movie called Blowout that he's in.

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Speaker 3: Eighty one.

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Speaker 2: It's eighty one, yep. Okay. He plays like a projectionist.

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Speaker 3: I guess he's like a like a folly artist, like

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he is not recording. He actually discovers a murder while

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he's out trying to record sounds for movies.

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Speaker 2: Oh see it high ranked. I've seen other people recommend it,

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but I've never seen it. You've seen Signed the Palma. Yeah,

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it's great. Okay, it's very good. I need to check

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that one out.

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Speaker 3: Ran Pauma.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Nancy Ellen I think is in it. Yeah, it's really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, back with her after Carrie.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let's dive into the cast. Are you ready

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to dive into the cast?

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Speaker 2: Let's dive in. This cast is epic. I can't think

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of a poorly cast character in this movie. This is

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this can be great.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right out of the gate. These people are a

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lot older than teenagers.

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Speaker 2: They when the when the film by guys were talking

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about Carrie. They were like, these guys look really old

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for high school. Then Amber was like, with they don't

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look as old as the ones from Green. So just

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here's a breakdown, because literally, as we're watching the movie,

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I watched this with my wife and my daughter. Daughter's

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twelve years old. Avery, she says, how old are these people? Beau, Yeah,

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he looks like a dad, And I'm like, well, he's

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old enough. So here you go here. Filming began in

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June of nineteen seventy seven. All right, yep, So in

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June of seventy seven, Stockard Channing was thirty three. As

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a matter of fact, in nineteen fifty eight, the year

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the film is set, she was only three years younger

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in the age she was playing there later like Michael

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Tucci Sonny was thirty one, Jamie Donnelly was thirty. That's

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jan Annette Charles was twenty Nine's cha cha she looked

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way older, she did.

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Speaker 3: She's a woman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Olivia Newton John was twenty eight, Barry Pearl was

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twenty seven, Jeff Conaway was twenty six, Deede Cone was

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twenty five. John Travolta was twenty three, Dina Manoff was

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twenty one, smoking hot, and Kelly Ward yeah like Mary,

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she knows. Kelly Ward and Eddie Deason were both twenty

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and a young and in incredibly good shape. Lorenzo Lamas

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was only nineteen years old. It's incredible if you're doing

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the math there, that is a fourteen year difference between

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the oldest high school character and the youngest.

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Speaker 3: I've got great tidbits on all these guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's enough time to go through all of the

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grades in school by the way.

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Speaker 3: Wow wow, Okay, So got some tidbits for you on

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Danny Zuko. Okay, John Travolta's character. Yes, but that's cool, baby,

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I mean, you know how it is rocking and rolling

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and whatnot. Okay, So before we go any further, just

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kind of on a sad note. We talked about in

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our Saturday Night Fever episode where John Travolta's longtime girlfriend

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Diana Hyland passed away from breast cancer, right, and he

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threw himself into the Tony Manarow role for Saturday Night

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Fever as a distraction in getting over her and sort

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of grieving her, right yep. And so this is still

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kind of in that grieving process, and so he just

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checked himself into work and is trying to get over her.

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So he loses Diana Hyland to breast cancer. He loses

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Olivia Newton John to breast cancer.

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Speaker 2: She had been diagnosed actually significantly earlier, had gone into remission.

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By the time she was fifty, she had been in

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remission for five years. She had become a big, big

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advocate for breast cancer research and raising money for that

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cancer research.

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Speaker 3: And he also lost his wife, Kelly Preston, Kelly freaking

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Preston to breast cancer. You want to hear us goo

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and guy over Kelly Preston to listen to our Twins episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or our Christine episode, by the way, to raise

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money for the cancer project. In twenty nineteen, Olivia Newton

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John auctioned off the jacket and the pants that she

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wore in that final scene, and I believe the price

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tag was somewhere around four hundred and something thousand dollars

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for the pair. The pants were bought by the lady

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who invented spanks. What really the jacket, which I think

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went for like two hundred and thirty six thousand dollars,

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was bought by an anonymous donor, who then ultimately returned

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the jacket back to Olivinia. John, Well, that's nice, that's

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good stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this or not. Jon

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Travolta had a top ten Hot one hundred hit in

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nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, tune in today. We're gonna be playing

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let her in. Something she said has to my head

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and I can't away. Gun letter in.

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Speaker 3: Gun letter in.

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Speaker 2: Gun letter in my life.

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Speaker 3: You know, what do you think about this one?

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Speaker 2: It's nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to croon a little bit. Yeah, it does not.

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Speaker 2: I bet the girls at seventy six were just melting.

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Speaker 3: We talked about how John Travolta had been in Greece

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before he played the character of Duty, which is a

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much smaller character. He was younger. He wasn't old enough

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to play Danny, wasn't studdily enough to play Danny. But

471
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,160
here's the interesting thing. The stories that I hear, it's

472
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,720
always that John Travolta is kind of the first puzzle piece.

473
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,400
But I read some stuff that Henry Winkler aka Arthur

474
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,920
Fonzarelli was offered the part of Danny Zuko at first,

475
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:35,160
and he said no, he.

476
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,799
Speaker 2: Turned it down because he didn't want to get type

477
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,720
cast as a greaser. Okay, here's the quote for Henry Winkler.

478
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,720
I go home and I have a diet coke.

479
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: John Travolta, who is in the movie, goes home and

480
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,359
buys a plane. He called himself a damn fool for

481
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,359
turning this one down.

482
00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Henry Winkler, but then we wouldn't have the coach

483
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,400
from Waterboy.

484
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,279
Speaker 3: Listen to this list of Broadway Danny's Okay, so these

485
00:24:57,319 --> 00:25:00,839
guys all conceivably could have played Danny. One in particular

486
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,599
I think would have really been a contender for being

487
00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:07,759
the Danny. Okay, Yeah, so Jeff Conaway played Danny on Broadway.

488
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,519
That's the guy who plays KANICKI okay, right, Peter Gallagher

489
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,559
treat Williams Richard Gear. Wow, now listen to this one.

490
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:16,799
Speaker 2: Those guys are pretty young.

491
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and those guys are movie stars, right yeah.

492
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:25,480
Patrick Swayze played Danny on Broadway. Wow, before this is

493
00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:29,559
before everything. Really he can sing, he can dance.

494
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you can do comedy Freezer. Look, I mean,

495
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,160
you couldn't name a more similar movie than Dirty Dancing

496
00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:39,079
to this, sure, right right? Speaking of Marashino, the moment

497
00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:42,240
that Marty came out avery, my daughter was like, is

498
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:44,880
that the girl from Dirty Dancing? Like, no, this is

499
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,640
like ten years before Dirty Dancing?

500
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: Right, Wow? Is it her sister?

501
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm like no, but Jeffer Gray and Dynamanhoff look like

502
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,519
they could easily be sisters.

503
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: Yes. By the way, little tidbit on Danny at the

504
00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:58,799
drive in and try not to talk about the song

505
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,119
that he's singing Sandy. He's on the swing set and

506
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,200
in the background on the movie like there's like, let's

507
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,960
go to the movies.

508
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,839
Speaker 2: You know, let's go to the lobby. That's it, that's

509
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:11,599
all good, lobby, go ahead.

510
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,319
Speaker 3: Never noticed this before. So he's singing about you know,

511
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,680
Sandy Leavin and he's lost and come back to me

512
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,680
and stranded at the drive in there is a hot

513
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,119
dog where the wiener keeps jumping in and out of

514
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,680
the bun and I'm like, huh.

515
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting. We didn't mention this, but you know, Alan Carr,

516
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,680
whether it was him meeting her at Helen Reddy's party

517
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,440
or John Travolta saying this is the perfect cast for

518
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:38,480
this right, because the original character was not from Australia, right, right.

519
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,319
She's like Dombowski was her last name or something, right,

520
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,400
And so he talks to her. She actually asks for

521
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,079
the screen test, like they're offering her the part, and

522
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:49,400
she's like, can I screen test first?

523
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:49,799
Speaker 3: I don't know.

524
00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:52,519
Speaker 2: Usually the studio is the one that wants to screen test,

525
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:54,759
not the actor. Usually the actor is excited about not

526
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:56,440
having to do the screen test. She's like, I just

527
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,319
don't want to look bad doing it, right, And so

528
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,599
she does the screen test with John Travoltas make sure

529
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:05,720
they have good chemistry. But then she also says, I

530
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:08,880
really don't want my kind of very first real acting

531
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,640
job for me to be doing an American accent and

532
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,359
doing it poorly.

533
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,279
Speaker 3: Sure, you're a psych and a phony, and I wish

534
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:16,720
I'd never had eyes on you.

535
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: And they said, no problem, we kind of like your

536
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,160
Australian accent. We will change the script.

537
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: So here's the interesting thing to me. One of the

538
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,039
minor plot problems I have with this movie. She meets

539
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,880
Danny at the beach. She's in America. They hook up,

540
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,480
they have this little summer romance. She's going to go

541
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,880
home to Australia. They have a change of plans, that's

542
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,480
what she says.

543
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, family has to change plans.

544
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm staying in America. Yeah, she doesn't think to

545
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,839
maybe call him and let him know I'm still in

546
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,880
America or.

547
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,559
Speaker 2: I don't know how far ryde Ell High is from

548
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,440
the beach. I don't know how many high schools were around.

549
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:54,240
This is California, that could be all over the place. True,

550
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:56,319
people don't have cell phones back then, that's true. They

551
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,720
maybe they just met on the I've I've had a

552
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,759
few girls that I just met on the each before.

553
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:04,720
But you said, you said something they hook up, right, Yes,

554
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:08,400
and so you've got the very first big song. Yes,

555
00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:13,319
is her playing down the sexual part of their relationship.

556
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,119
Don't spoil it, Danny and him playing it up? Sure,

557
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,759
who's lying. Did they get busy?

558
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: No, No way.

559
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: They get busy.

560
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,599
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. She's a good girl, all right. I do

561
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960
think that they really nailed that tone, though, because there's

562
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,119
a fine line to be walked where the audience is

563
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,440
going to either side with the good girl or side

564
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,480
with the bad boy. But I think that they do

565
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,680
such a good job. I think that Danny does love her.

566
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880
That doesn't mean he's not a horn dog.

567
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, or a guy who wants to show up for

568
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:42,319
his friends, of course.

569
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:46,079
Speaker 3: But when they see when they are reunited, and Riz

570
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:48,240
sets him up and does that on purpose so he'll

571
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,200
make a rear out of himself, which he probably does.

572
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:53,359
It hurts it. He acts like a butt. Heead Sandy

573
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:55,039
calls him a fake and a phony, and I never

574
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:57,079
want to see you again. And she leaves and Riz

575
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,319
knew the whole time he's going to do this, and

576
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:01,920
she stares at him and he stares back at her,

577
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,400
and he's hurt. So I really do think he loves her.

578
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:06,599
Speaker 2: I think it's funny that before you started that you

579
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,000
said you think they really nailed the tone, because the

580
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:11,160
image in my head that proves to me that she

581
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,640
was telling the truth and that he was lying was

582
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,400
the scene where she slams the door and nails the bone.

583
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: That is the funniest laugh out loud moment in the

584
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:21,680
entire movie.

585
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:23,319
Speaker 2: She really nailed the bone on this one when she.

586
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: Gets out of the sin wagon and nails the bone

587
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,680
with the door, and he's like, oh, yeah, so funny.

588
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:35,519
Let me give you the list of possible Sandy's okay, okay,

589
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,279
tell me about it. Think with me back to nineteen

590
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:43,759
seventy seven. Okay, okay and Margaret and Margaret.

591
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so and Margaret. Oh that's what it was. So

592
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,160
Diana Manoff. I wanted to look because I remembered her

593
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,160
from being an Empty Nest. You remember that TV show? Yeah,

594
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,119
you know, she was one of the daughters an Empty Nests.

595
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:56,960
I remember for that. But I'm like, she's got to

596
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,920
have been in something else. She's just got a very

597
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,359
memorable face. No, nothing except for this one movie called

598
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,000
I Ought to Be in Pictures with Walter mathou And

599
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,599
and Margaret.

600
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:08,039
Speaker 3: Interesting.

601
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:10,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not have brought that tid bat up

602
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:13,480
had you not said a that was to do an

603
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:15,039
uninteresting a tidbit.

604
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: Thirty or freaking grubby old men.

605
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, there you go.

606
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,559
Speaker 3: I've got a tidbit for you on Dyna man Off

607
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,200
that I'm going to blow your socks off with here

608
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:24,680
in a second.

609
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:27,799
Speaker 2: Anything involving Dyna man Off and blowing I'm good.

610
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: Okay, So here are your other possible Sandy's, yes, and Margaret,

611
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,599
we talked about Susan Day, Debora Raff, and these are

612
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,279
seventies actresses Carrie Fisher. Yeah, if you listen to our

613
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:44,400
Star Wars Holiday special episode, you will hear Carrie Fisher sing.

614
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,359
Speaker 2: Oh my special.

615
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: I don't think she's a great singer.

616
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,519
Speaker 2: No, that would not have worked in this, right, not

617
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:50,039
have worked in this.

618
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: She's beautiful. Yeah, I think she can pull off the

619
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,559
good girl bag all thing. Oh, she just can't sing.

620
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,400
Now here you go. Here's two people who could sing

621
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,759
and are I think legit possibilities, especially at time. Okay,

622
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:06,039
Marie Osmond, come on, Sandy, don't make me laugh. She

623
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:06,920
turned down the.

624
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: Role, Yeah she didn't. She later in an interview, said

625
00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:12,839
she knew she wanted to be a mom and she

626
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,480
didn't want to have to explain to her kids why

627
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:17,559
the girl had to become a bad girl in order

628
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:18,559
to get the guy right.

629
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the good girl bad girl thing. Okay.

630
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:24,319
My idea is that they met in the middle. He

631
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000
became a little more jock, she became a little more

632
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,559
te bird. She wasn't like she threw all of her

633
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:31,640
morals out the window forever and ever.

634
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: She did not have to burn her virginity at the stake. No,

635
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:38,039
she came out dressed in tight pants and smoking a

636
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,920
cigarette and doing terrible job at it. Right, and it's funny,

637
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,359
it's not right, Like there's this idea that this is

638
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,960
not a good commentary on the way women should have

639
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:51,240
to behave in all of that, or maybe it's a

640
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,720
commentary on the way things were going in the seventies. Anyway,

641
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:55,200
I don't know, right, but I don't think any of

642
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720
that really kind of came up until well after the

643
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:01,279
movie had been out for years. Sure over analyzing.

644
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get a life, people, okay. And the last

645
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:06,960
one I want to bring up to you Linda Ronstadt,

646
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:08,440
ooh yeah, good girl, back girl.

647
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: She was still foxy.

648
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: She was foxy and boy she could sing oh yeah right.

649
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,559
Speaker 2: I don't know she could act, but man, she would have. Yeah,

650
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:17,400
that'd have been a good one.

651
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,359
Speaker 3: I like how she was sewn into her pants. We talked, yeah,

652
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,880
you know, in the scene the leather pants.

653
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: She said the pants were actually from the fifties, like,

654
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:26,759
and they were supposed to be elastic, but she's like,

655
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,960
after twenty years the elastic was gone, but the zipper broke.

656
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,039
That's where they had to sow her in.

657
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,079
Speaker 3: She was still she was worried about eating and drinking

658
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:36,319
all day long. She's She's like, I can't pee. I'm

659
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:37,160
sewn into my pants.

660
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, she probably couldn't bend over at a right angle.

661
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:40,559
I mean, gim and e.

662
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,759
Speaker 3: By the way, at the premiere, at the premiere, I

663
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,200
thought this was really funny when she attended the premiere

664
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,200
with John Travolta and they went to the premiere Grease.

665
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,799
When she showed up the premiere, she was wearing a

666
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:52,599
prom dress. When she came out of the movie, she

667
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,880
was wearing like the pink stretch pants, like the hotpants.

668
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,240
Oh nice, good girl, bag girl. Before we end this,

669
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,400
I want to talk to you about the possibility that

670
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,640
Sandy actually drown at the beginning of the movie.

671
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: What do you know about this? No, you're gonna have

672
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,519
to fill me in on this nonsense.

673
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: Okay, hear me out and we'll talk about it more

674
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,759
at the end. There is a fan theory out there

675
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,440
that says at the beginning, when she's at the beach

676
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,400
with Danny, she has a swimming accident where she drowns,

677
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:21,400
and the reason why people suspect that the whole Grease

678
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,799
movie is this sort of fever dream before she dies

679
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,079
and goes to Heaven is the final scene in the

680
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:29,200
movie when she gets in the car and the car

681
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,680
takes flight and goes to the clouds. Explain that in

682
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:35,359
real life.

683
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: It's a fairy tale ending like a Disney movie. I

684
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,559
find that fan theory even less believable than the Cloak

685
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:44,400
and Dagger fight club theory.

686
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's move on to the t Birds

687
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,240
real quick. Jeff Conaway plays KANICKI.

688
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: Okay, what's with you tonight?

689
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,119
Speaker 3: You've got the personality of a wet mom. Don't start

690
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,920
with me. She's a fine Okay, eureka, how about I

691
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,799
finished with you, hunk?

692
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: That is stuff.

693
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: To you for mein Lee.

694
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: Sorry French. Yes, he had played Danny on Broadway. So

695
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:10,039
he died a few years ago, like twenty eleven. I

696
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:14,039
think pneumonia related to chronic drug use. So I'm on

697
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,519
the Doctor Drew Show. He was in bad shame dude.

698
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it, without getting too much into the song.

699
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,719
Because of the song, he had an accident while they

700
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,440
were filming the Grease Lightning song that led to him

701
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,679
doing pain pills and getting addicted to those.

702
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the higgys that Riz has. Jeff Conway

703
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,760
insisted on giving those to her himself for real. I

704
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,960
thank you from Kinicki's like a Hallmark card. Okay, one

705
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:41,239
last tidbit I've got on Jeff Conway. Yes, he was

706
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,639
infatuated with Olivia Newton John. Yes, tongue tied when he

707
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,519
was around her. Who wouldn't be right?

708
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: Right?

709
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,599
Speaker 3: He actually married her sister, Yeah, Rona Newton John.

710
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: Yep, I had to look her up.

711
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: Do you think?

712
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: Not quite as pretty as Olivia Newton John, but I'm

713
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,880
a little less wholesome, a little more dangerous.

714
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay. The three guys that played the rest of

715
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,599
the Tea Birds, Yes, hey, you've got Duty, played by

716
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Barry Peel Duty. I know what a terrible name he

717
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,679
actually did. I mean he was in Barney Miller. It

718
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,480
is enough Hill Street Blues, Alice.

719
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,679
Speaker 2: Just that we know this. Those guys' names are Sonny,

720
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,760
Duty and Putsy Right. And they're playing the Three Stooges

721
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,519
the entire movie.

722
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

723
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: In fact, Randall Kleisner said, hey, guys, I want you

724
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,760
to do some sort of Three Stooges thing. So they

725
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,440
went off and they came up with that whole thing

726
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:29,039
on their own.

727
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: Brilliant.

728
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really cool.

729
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kelly Ward, the guy who played Putsy, he was.

730
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,280
He had been in The Boy in the Plastic Bubble

731
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,360
with John Travolta before this.

732
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,599
Speaker 3: I think that's how he got the job.

733
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:43,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, So you know, he became a dialogue director,

734
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,960
like he works in animated movies and is the dialogue

735
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,199
director for voice over actors.

736
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,519
Speaker 3: Really yeah, you know, he had been in Magnum p I,

737
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:53,880
Quincy m E Mash, The Waltons. All these guys are

738
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,840
covering sort of all the seventies and eighties bases in television. Yep, Sonny,

739
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,480
who is Michael Tucci? You said he was like thirty one.

740
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:03,280
I mean he's been in the Gary Salin Show and

741
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,079
he actually ended up as a high school teacher.

742
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: Huh.

743
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,079
Speaker 3: I hope he doesn't take any crap from anyone. He

744
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:12,000
passed out at the dance, like when they did the

745
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,800
big dance thing, no Ac, California. It's hotter and crap.

746
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so they had to use the gym, the gymnasium.

747
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,079
That was the very first scene that they filmed, by

748
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,480
the way, which was great because it got the cast

749
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:25,119
to like dance around together, get familiar. You're with each

750
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:27,480
other before they're having to like deliver lines and stuff

751
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:29,679
like that. But yeah, it was they had to do

752
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,360
it during the summer, so the school was an incession

753
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:34,199
and there was no ac in the building.

754
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: If you've ever been to a high school dance, you

755
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:38,880
know there's no place freaking hotter in the world than

756
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,800
a high school dance.

757
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,519
Speaker 2: Yep, and especially when you're dancing cheek cheek.

758
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:46,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when it's the middle of summer and you're

759
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,559
thirty five years old. Right, Okay, let's move over to

760
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,320
the pink ladies. Heading up the Pink Ladies, you got Rizzo,

761
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:59,519
Tell me by my first name, Betty, Betty, Betty Rizzo,

762
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:04,320
Eddie Rizzo, Bythuini riz Well, I think.

763
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:06,039
Speaker 4: He sounds peachy.

764
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: Stockard Channing, Yeah, you sent me a video of her

765
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,800
first appearance on television and it was on Sesame Street.

766
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,199
You remember the guy who wore the little Beanie hat.

767
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,599
He played the butler in something. I can't remember what

768
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,639
he played the butler in, but he would wear the

769
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,000
he wore the little Derby hat with a trench coat

770
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,480
and he would walk around and he would paint numbers

771
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:30,320
on things. And for this one he met Stockard Channing

772
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,920
and she's beautiful. She's just beautiful. Scene too. She's having

773
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,119
a little picnic lunch and he keeps trying to paint

774
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,920
with the mayonnaise and the mustard and ketchup on the

775
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,800
bread and she keeps grabbing it and sticking it on

776
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,039
the sandwich. And then he finally gets one done and

777
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:46,039
she grabs it, puts it on the sandwich and like

778
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,239
it's three feet tall, but she still managed to put

779
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:48,880
it all in her mouth.

780
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,519
Speaker 3: So they hired Stockard Channing. She was actually like Alan

781
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:54,679
Carr was like her sort of friend slash manager. They

782
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,880
had been looking for this really important part. She's got

783
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,000
to be damaged goods sort of but hate her. She's

784
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,320
got to kind of be mean, yeah, mean lovable, right.

785
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,719
So the person they wanted was Lucy Arnettz. This is

786
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,280
Desi Arnez and Lucy I love Lucille Ball. Yeah, it's

787
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,320
their daughter. And here's what happened. They brought her in

788
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,000
there like, hey, we want you for Rizz? Can you

789
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:19,960
audition for Rizz? And mom, Lucille Ball loses her mind

790
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:23,199
and says, you mean audition. I used to own this studio.

791
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:24,559
Who do you think you are?

792
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,199
Speaker 2: Right?

793
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: And so they're like, we probably better not hire her,

794
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:32,920
you know. Wow, So mom got crazy and they're like, nope,

795
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,000
we're not doing this. So Alan Carr's talking to Stocker

796
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,079
Channing on the phone one day and says, you know what,

797
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,519
we're having a hard time with her. Would you be interested?

798
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:40,400
Would you come down?

799
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says. He says that he's like, we're having

800
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,400
a real hard time finding Riz and she's like, huh

801
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,320
I silence right, which, of course, I mean she's thirty

802
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,360
one years old, they're thirty two at this point. She's

803
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,559
got to be like, well, not me, right, why would

804
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:55,079
you me?

805
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

806
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: Would you come read? Like And it was almost as

807
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,280
if she heard the wheels clicking in his head as

808
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,159
he said it. Like he's just talking to her as

809
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:05,039
a friend about the problems they're having, and then all

810
00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:06,079
of a sudden he's like, wait a.

811
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: Minute, what are you doing this afternoon? Now? Then let's

812
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:11,159
talk about Frenchie okay, played by d Econ.

813
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:20,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, men are rats to me, they're fleas on rats.

814
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: Worse than that, there were members.

815
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 3: Of fleas on rats.

816
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean they had.

817
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:29,079
Speaker 4: Too low fever and the dogs to bite.

818
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: The only man a girl can depend on is a daddy.

819
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:35,639
Speaker 3: We talked about her in our Saturday Night Fever episode.

820
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,800
She eventually married David Schier, who was one of the

821
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,639
composers on the Saturday Night Fever out album Wow Okay,

822
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,400
who had previously been married to Talia Shire.

823
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. So she was going to audition for this, right,

824
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,599
Her manager told her to go audition for this, yep.

825
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,559
And she goes to the studio and she said, and

826
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:57,159
they have you know, they've got the little like security

827
00:39:57,199 --> 00:39:59,519
desk at the front or whatever little office is at

828
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:01,559
the front. And as she comes in, this is the

829
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:03,440
day before. She's just trying to kind of, you know,

830
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:06,239
work off the nerves. And she sees this guy standing

831
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,079
at this desk and it's got all these copies xerox

832
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:12,400
copies of the script for Greece, and she's like, you

833
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,320
gotta let me see one of these, right, because that

834
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,360
way I can read, I can like figure out what

835
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,320
the part is about, and that way I'll do the

836
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,639
best tomorrow. And he's like, I can't let these go.

837
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000
She's like please. He's like, looks around. He's like, okay,

838
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:24,880
get under the desk.

839
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: She crawls between his legs.

840
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, just to read the script, just to read

841
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:30,639
the script.

842
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 3: She's on the floor literally in the security guard station

843
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:33,840
reading the.

844
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,599
Speaker 2: Script as he's standing in front of the desk.

845
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'll tell you what she is. Awesome movie.

846
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: She's perfect. And they knew she was perfect as soon

847
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,519
as she came in.

848
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,039
Speaker 3: They heard her squeaky voice and they're like, that's it.

849
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:44,679
Speaker 2: Yep, French.

850
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,119
Speaker 3: She's actually the only person in Greece Grease too, Grease Live.

851
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:54,159
Then you've got Jan played by Jamie Donnelly.

852
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,679
Speaker 4: New White pan with the redio flavor. It's Dandy for

853
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:04,280
your tea bya, but your buts out. He can't Jon

854
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,840
Fast Fast last joy.

855
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: Right. She actually came back and did the show again

856
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,960
on Broadway playing the same character. How about that her

857
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,079
hair was turning gray at that point, her hair was.

858
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 3: Turning gray in nineteen seventy eight. They had to color

859
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:20,480
it with like magic marker. Oh wow, Yeah, she's all

860
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:22,840
white nowadays. She looks like an old lady.

861
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: She is an old lady.

862
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Dina man Huff, We've been talking about her a

863
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,639
little bit. She plays Marty Maraschino. Uh, here's the tidbit

864
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:33,320
I'm ready to drop on you. Okay, Yeah, So, first

865
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,280
of all, she was in Welcome Back Caught Her. Yes,

866
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,440
probably a little bit of connection there, right, sure, it's

867
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,880
all who you know. She's the daughter of Lee Grant

868
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,159
and Arnold manoff Lee Grant Old Hollywood. You said that

869
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,000
she had been in a couple of different movies. You

870
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,880
didn't really recognize her, trying to place her. Uh huh,

871
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,480
All right, listen to this. She was in Child's Play.

872
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:54,000
She is Chucky's first victim.

873
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: Wow, do you remember.

874
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 3: When he slashes the lady and she falls out of

875
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,840
the window. Is in the trailer and that's Dyna Man

876
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,679
in Greece. We have Chucky's first victim. And here in

877
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,079
a second, I'm gonna tell you about Michael Myers's first victim. Maybe.

878
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:09,119
Speaker 2: Okay, stay with me. I'm excited. Okay.

879
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: Now, then we got a couple of secondary people I

880
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,000
want to talk about real quick.

881
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

882
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: So you've got Eddie Deson, who played Eugene war Games. Yeah,

883
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,599
he's in War Games.

884
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:19,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you've seen Polar Express, the nerdy kid that

885
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:23,320
looks kind of like Corey Feldman in Polar Express, it's

886
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,880
voiced by him. Perfect voice for a nerdy kid, because

887
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,079
he's got the nerdy voice.

888
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,639
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, he does have that nerdy voice very nasally.

889
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,760
He was in nineteen forty one. He was in Follow

890
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,559
That Bird. Okay, follow that Bird, Follow that Bird Bird movie.

891
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: Yes, come on, I don't know how I forgot that.

892
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: And apparently during the filming of this movie, like Jeff Conaway,

893
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,440
his soul mission was to get Eddie Deson laid.

894
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: So gosh, that's that's just like high school.

895
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: Does that sound like high school?

896
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Sounds like high school? Yeah, all right.

897
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:01,199
Speaker 3: Susan Buckner played Patty Simcocks. It was a Fox Miss

898
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Washington nineteen seventy one. Uh huh, and was a top

899
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:06,559
ten Miss America contested nineteen seventy two.

900
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,039
Speaker 2: I told you, and I forgive me because I may

901
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:12,280
be like creating a memory that doesn't actually exist. But

902
00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:15,079
I saw her host some sort of behind the scenes

903
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:18,239
thing for that show. She alluded to the fact that

904
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,199
basically she kind of went from trailer to trailer hooking

905
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,639
up with these guys, which I mean, these were the

906
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,400
stars of the day. So I guess so young high

907
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:26,840
for each other.

908
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know for sure that she and Jeff Conaway

909
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,480
had a fling. Yeah, Jeff Conway said, we had to

910
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:35,679
practice lifting her dress over her head. Okay, let's talk

911
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:40,599
about Tom Chisholm, played by mister nineteen year old Lorenzo Lamas.

912
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: Do you know who was supposed to originally play this part?

913
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:44,519
Speaker 3: Tell me about it instead.

914
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:51,199
Speaker 2: So the quote unquote actor's name is Stephen Ford. Yes,

915
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,639
this movie is filmed in nineteen seventy seven. President Gerald

916
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,280
Ford's son is the guy who's supposed to play the

917
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,360
young handsome jock. He bows out to do to quote

918
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,159
unquote stage fright.

919
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

920
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean there's not a stage. That's a theater thing.

921
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:13,719
I don't know what you're talking about with stage fright. Yeah,

922
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:15,079
he just chickened out.

923
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: All he had to do is just say hi, how

924
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:17,519
are you?

925
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,559
Speaker 2: He literally had no lines he did he mouthed the

926
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:24,199
lines that he had. Yeah, there was nothing. He just

927
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,559
had to go out there and look good. And I

928
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:27,360
think he was maybe he was scared he wasn't gonna

929
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,519
look good, or maybe Dad said you're not going to

930
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:31,840
go out there and be the pretty boy that I.

931
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: Could see a little bit more.

932
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

933
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,599
Speaker 3: The second guy, and they had mine was Mark Fidrich.

934
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,159
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

935
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: And Major League Baseball got in the way.

936
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a picture for the Detroit Tigers.

937
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: Right by the way, the way Lorenzo Olamas got this role. Yes,

938
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:50,599
his mom who is Arlene Dahl? Okay, he escorted her

939
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,960
to the nineteen seventy seven Oscars and his mom, Arlene Dahl,

940
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is a famous actress.

941
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Speaker 2: Okay.

942
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Speaker 3: She walked right over to Tallon Carr said, this is

943
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my son, Lorenzo. You better hire him.

944
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, I mean he was. He was great in

945
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920
this part. And he looked different than I remember him.

946
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,079
I mean I remember him in those cheesy shows with

947
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,280
the long hair Renegade. Yeah, that was terrible.

948
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:12,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

949
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Speaker 2: He was also a Falcon crest too, right, he was,

950
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he was.

951
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: Okay, a couple of quick notes for you. Crater Face

952
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,599
played by Dennis Cleveland Stewart. Now, I watched Moonlighting just

953
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:23,559
the other day. He's a bad guy in moon one

954
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:24,559
of the Moonlighting episodes.

955
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's perfect.

956
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

957
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: He plays like a punk rocker. He's got a mohawk

958
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,480
and stuff like that. He plays crater Face. He actually

959
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:32,559
died of AIDS in nineteen ninety four.

960
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,039
Speaker 2: Oh tragic.

961
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's some tragedy on the set. Cha Chaw

962
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,480
played by Annette Charles. She was actually pregnant during the thunder.

963
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: Road scene topic pregnancy.

964
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was actually in terrible pain, really sick, barely

965
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,639
barely standing. Luckily she felt good enough to throw down

966
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:52,840
the scarf. She died of lung cancer in twenty eleven. Now,

967
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,840
then Eve Alden Dody Goodman said, Caesar is in this movie.

968
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,079
Speaker 2: You know who was supposed to play the said Caesar part,

969
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:02,159
the coach Calhoun Park. Tell me this guy's name is

970
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,000
Harry Reims.

971
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,039
Speaker 3: Tell me how I know that?

972
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: Because he was a porn star, most famous for appearing

973
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,519
in the movie Deep Throat and getting charged under the

974
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:20,800
obscenity laws for his participation in the movie. Yes, word comes.

975
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:23,559
Speaker 3: Back in some I think the movie watching public have

976
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:26,840
trouble with that, maybe since he's just great in this movie. Yeah,

977
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,960
he's like, you gotta balance his son. You gotta try,

978
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:29,519
you gotta try.

979
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

980
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: Now, then you have Michael Bean in his movie debut.

981
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a cameo because he wasn't anybody at

982
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:37,119
this point. He was an extra.

983
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,599
Speaker 3: For those of you who don't know, I mean, this

984
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:42,079
is the guy who played recent Terminator and Hicks and Aliens.

985
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,039
Speaker 2: Johnny Ringo and Johnny Ringo.

986
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the guy sitting next to Patty Simcocks when

987
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:47,960
they put a frog inner purse or whatever.

988
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the guy that John Travolta punches in the

989
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:52,440
stomach when they're playing basketball. That's it. Ah, you're a hitter.

990
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: How about that? Michael Bean Bean, Michael Bean all right,

991
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,599
I got one more name for you, okay, John Michael Graham.

992
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,599
That ring a bell for you.

993
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: No, you're gonna have to give me more on that one,

994
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,159
all right.

995
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,199
Speaker 3: John Michael Graham was a background dancer in Greece.

996
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,159
Speaker 2: I think I know this. Okay, I think I know this.

997
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:16,400
He was the boyfriend in Halloween. Was he PJ. Soul's boyfriend?

998
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:18,559
Speaker 3: Yep, you got it, Bob, So.

999
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, background dancer? Is Was he Michael myers first victim?

1000
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,039
Speaker 3: I think he was Michael Myers's first adult victim right

1001
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:32,039
up on his escape. That's right, yes, Bob from Halloween. Wow,

1002
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,599
that's all for the cast. I do have one thing

1003
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:36,480
that I found really interesting though. At the end of

1004
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:40,199
the movie, when Danny and Sandy are flying to the

1005
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,920
clouds in their car, they actually kiss. We don't ever

1006
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,880
see on screen Danny and Sandy.

1007
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: Kiss until that last moment.

1008
00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: Well, the last moment didn't make it because there's some

1009
00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:54,039
problem with the film, and so it only exists in

1010
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:57,119
black and white, really, and they never ever got that

1011
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,360
chance again, or didn't realize that there was a problem

1012
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,400
until it was too late and they couldn't get everybody back,

1013
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,639
and they couldn't do the thing. So they tried to

1014
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,280
convert that black and white to color.

1015
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1016
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: They could never figure out how to do it, so

1017
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:10,360
we never see Danny Sandy kiss.

1018
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: The entire cal Ted Turner.

1019
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 3: Alright, know, right, that's all for the cast, Okay, d So,

1020
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,440
I got a couple of tibits for you before we

1021
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:19,679
wrap this one up. The word grease has never mentioned

1022
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,119
the entire movie. Now they say greased like greased lightning. Yeah,

1023
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,519
never say song. Yeah, I got the song that was

1024
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:28,360
actually kind of go into the music. Sorry, sorry, you

1025
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,639
gotta wait the word is spoken.

1026
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to. You gotta tune in for our

1027
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,559
next episode to hear all about the songs, right yep?

1028
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:40,159
Speaker 3: Okay. So John Travolta started filming this, or started rehearsing

1029
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,199
this four days after Saturday Night Favor, four days, four

1030
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,679
days he had to switch from Tony Manaro to Danny

1031
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,639
Zuko pretty quick. I told you about we had the

1032
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:50,000
hot Dog the movie right where the Bun and the Winterer,

1033
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:53,000
and yeah, that was pretty cool. I never really realized

1034
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:56,119
that they actually planned a sequel to Grease. No, we're

1035
00:48:56,159 --> 00:49:00,079
not talking Greece to Amandagenic. We're talking Summer School that

1036
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:04,400
was supposed to come out right afterwards. Oh okay, where

1037
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,280
the guys, the tea birds and stuff were back in

1038
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,199
summer school with coach you know, Sid Caesar. Yep, that

1039
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,039
didn't never happen. Yeah, but it's kind of interesting to

1040
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:12,440
think about.

1041
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had even talked about doing a Grease three

1042
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:18,880
after Greece Too bombed. There were supposed to be Greece three,

1043
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,519
but after Grease two bombed they didn't do it. But

1044
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:25,840
then talks resumed again much later, twenty years later in

1045
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,480
the nineties, and the talk was, well, maybe we make

1046
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,880
these you know, maybe we come back where these characters

1047
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,760
are twenty years later, you know, make it a show

1048
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,159
in the seventies. Which how interesting would that have been?

1049
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: I think that had been fun. Yeah, you know, the

1050
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,119
Breakfast Club wanted to do the exact same thing. Yeah,

1051
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,000
come back to your twenty year reunion. Yeah, be fun

1052
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,559
revisit the character for me and you if you can

1053
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:48,960
make a good movie out of it, though, Yeah, I

1054
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:49,480
can see that.

1055
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:53,079
Speaker 2: And obviously we've lost to you know, we lost Olivia Newton, John,

1056
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,360
we lost Jeff Conway.

1057
00:49:56,039 --> 00:49:56,199
Speaker 3: You know.

1058
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the same without those.

1059
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,599
Speaker 3: That's right right by the way.

1060
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,519
Speaker 2: Tibbit for you.

1061
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:04,079
Speaker 3: The original play that opened at the Eton Theater February fourteenth,

1062
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:07,239
nineteen seventy two had Barry bostwickaus Danny. Have you ever

1063
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,239
seen a Rocky Horror picture show? Adrian Barbo as Riz

1064
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,480
Shut up?

1065
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,039
Speaker 2: Yep? Wow?

1066
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: All right, So that's all the tidbits I got right

1067
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,079
there except one. There was a time when Greece was

1068
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:22,679
in the top three highest grossing movies of all time?

1069
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,800
Can you name the other two?

1070
00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: Yes? I can, but why don't you tell me so?

1071
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 3: Grease was number three? Ye Star Wars was number two,

1072
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,599
and number one at the time, Jaws.

1073
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one for Paramount. This was the second highest

1074
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,840
grossing movie they had ever had. Of course, they produced

1075
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:48,440
The Godfather, so that one beat it. But that's still

1076
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:49,280
pretty impressive.

1077
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I were talking. I am not a

1078
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,039
musical guy.

1079
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:52,559
Speaker 4: Right.

1080
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,679
Speaker 3: If it says musical, I'm out pretty much Greatest Showman,

1081
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,599
No Thanks, Sound of Music, Watch all the Time, West Side,

1082
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:01,000
Still no Thanks.

1083
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 2: It eclipsed the Sound of Music as the highest grossing

1084
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,480
musical of all time. Sound of Music came out thirteen

1085
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:11,280
years before totally ran the show for that thirteen years

1086
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,199
until Grease and knocked it out of the water.

1087
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a tsunami in pop culture in nineteen

1088
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,679
seventy eight. Indeed, we're going to compare this to the

1089
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,239
soundtrack next week.

1090
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,159
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1116
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,559
tying our tongues up so we don't talk about the

1117
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,360
songs in this movie. But next week we're going to

1118
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,440
talk about who wrote the incredible title track. It'll shock you.

1119
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,199
The bad words that are in Grease Lightning. We'll talk

1120
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:55,559
about that.

1121
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 2: My wife said, say tipped, and we're.

1122
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:05,519
Speaker 3: Going to talk about several number one hits that were

1123
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:08,519
like last second additions to the movie. Come back next

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week and.

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Speaker 2: Check it out. Bye guys, Thanks so much,