Speaker 1: Steve Rivera.
Speaker 2: He's got his eye on the ball on Tucson Sports
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Eye on the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.
Speaker 4: Luckily I don't have my eye on the ball, but
Speaker 4: Dave does and JN does.
Speaker 5: That's why you're here.
Speaker 3: Okay, one, didn't you have the breaking news portion?
Speaker 2: This is Eye on the Ball Breaking News on Fox
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Speaker 5: Happy mannic one day to everyone out there.
Speaker 6: You're truly mister goody two shoes, Mihitolindo. Dave, if you
Speaker 6: want to come up with a nickname for me, you can.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, he's going to work on that.
Speaker 3: If there's a white guy that that that that purpose,
Speaker 3: it's Dave the mister nice guy.
Speaker 6: And you know, mister you can't do nothing wrong here
Speaker 6: Melindo number two. Yeah, all right. He starting off Breaking
Speaker 6: News with some summary of Arizona athletics over the weekend.
Speaker 5: The women's tennis team had.
Speaker 6: A couple of victories on Saturday, first against Colorado State
Speaker 6: in a four to one win, and then a Buffalo
Speaker 6: a couple hours later, seven to zero. They are now
Speaker 6: eight and four on the season. The men's tennis team
Speaker 6: got a huge win on Friday. It's number seven San
Speaker 6: Diego we had for zero. The softball team had the
Speaker 6: Hill and Brand Invitational from Thursday through Sunday. Saturday, they
Speaker 6: had a huge showdown against number one Texas kind of
Speaker 6: felt like a College World Series atmosphere, but they didn't
Speaker 6: end up losing in the eighth inning four to eight.
Speaker 6: In their their rematch with number twenty Stanford, they had
Speaker 6: five home runs to win ten to two and six innings.
Speaker 5: The baseball team.
Speaker 6: After going zero in three couple we about a week ago,
Speaker 6: got three wins in San Diego eleven to zero, five
Speaker 6: to four, and twelve to six. Yesterday they faced Rice
Speaker 6: before heading to the Astros Foundation College Classic. Well off
Speaker 6: face number one Texas, Texas A and M, and then
Speaker 6: the women's team beat Houston seventy four to seventy two
Speaker 6: in overtime. They have Senior Night tomorrow six o'clock against
Speaker 6: Texas Tech before traveling to Arizona State for their final
Speaker 6: game of the regular season. Game of the season, and
Speaker 6: as we talked about, the men's basketball team lost to
Speaker 6: BYU at home ninety five to ninety six. They'll take
Speaker 6: on Utah seven o'clock on Wednesday.
Speaker 3: You know. With that, and I wanted to ask Josh this,
Speaker 3: and maybe I can ask Gym this. I'm sure. One
Speaker 3: there's two things, Dave. You have the video, right, I'm
Speaker 3: sure you can send it to the home office of
Speaker 3: the Big twelve and say can you review this and
Speaker 3: see what if there's any ramifications or whatever. You can
Speaker 3: protest the game, but you're not gonna you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying right one and two, I'm wondering if Tomy's
Speaker 3: gonna get fined X amount of money because you criticize
Speaker 3: the refs.
Speaker 5: He was pretty really super dramatic. Well what he said
Speaker 5: though he was kind to be in pretty diplomatic.
Speaker 3: It sounds like, well, I asked him the questions, you know,
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the lisais as well, what am I
Speaker 3: going to say? Or it was about call I what
Speaker 3: can I say?
Speaker 5: YadA?
Speaker 3: But he still did it. I'm thinking maybe they'll let
Speaker 3: it go. But but they don't usually let it go
Speaker 3: because you're criticizing the red.
Speaker 5: Well, every once in a while you'll see that, especially
Speaker 5: in football, it seems where they'll you know, they'll try
Speaker 5: to correct a bad call by some defensive you know,
Speaker 5: on a defensive play in the end zone. So I
Speaker 5: don't know if the Big twelve will come out with anything.
Speaker 5: I'ven't seen anything today. Yeah, maybe they will that you know,
Speaker 5: mistake was made or a call shouldn't have been made,
Speaker 5: one of those kind of statements.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter really, right, And I don't think. I
Speaker 3: don't think, you know, having covered the team for so
Speaker 3: long in the good old days with the nc double A,
Speaker 3: we have those, you have those conference calls with the
Speaker 3: NCAA committee, And if this is a loss, right, it
Speaker 3: comes down as a loss, But is it a bad loss.
Speaker 5: It's not a bad loss.
Speaker 3: So those are factored into the situation where circumstances of
Speaker 3: events also play a part.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 5: Then also look at you know, obviously the Iowa State
Speaker 5: win here was pretty fortunate. It kind of balanced itself out.
Speaker 3: Sure, and that is not a bad loss for Iowa
Speaker 3: State either, given the circumstance. Right and Houston, I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, yeah, they ad them until they didn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Into some news regarding some of the opponents Arizona will
Speaker 6: be facing down the stretch, including Utah, which comes to
Speaker 6: town on Wednesday. They have fired their head coach, Craig
Speaker 6: Smith after for nearly four seasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had a winning season. Former U of
Speaker 3: A guy, mister B tell me Mark Carlin.
Speaker 5: Mark former athletics or was an athletic, is their athletic director.
Speaker 3: But he's alm u Alm. I pulled the cord quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: obviously saw something. I don't think I'm assuming he hired
Speaker 3: the guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been there a while.
Speaker 3: It's been a while, so we'll see. It came from
Speaker 3: Utah State. This This ain't an easy job. And and
Speaker 3: I just saw a tweet by a friend, Frachelle, who's
Speaker 3: on the show every now and again, talk about you
Speaker 3: know n I L N I L you know how
Speaker 3: much money? How much when you have to get your program?
Speaker 3: And how much are you gonna get if if you're
Speaker 3: gonna be the new coach day, are you gonna ask
Speaker 3: that exactly? How much do I have to spend on
Speaker 3: the kids come here?
Speaker 5: Well? You saw, I mean there was it made news
Speaker 5: I guess this week about you know what the U
Speaker 5: of A did adding on that little extra extra fee. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's gonna be used towards nil like our other university
Speaker 5: is gonna be doing the same thing. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: a big competition right now. And I'm sure you know
Speaker 5: the Big twelve being what how many teams? Sixteen, steam,
Speaker 5: whatever it is. You know, where's the Utah rank in
Speaker 5: the nil world? And here's you go.
Speaker 3: Ever, go to a store, I'll just say, you know, target,
Speaker 3: a target, beat whatever, and you buy something that's defected
Speaker 3: and you jake it back or whatever. Sure that happens,
Speaker 3: right Look at Indiana, a wealthy program that paid a
Speaker 3: lot of money for a lot of dudes. They buy
Speaker 3: a defective team. You can't take that stuff back. And
Speaker 3: I know, are you gonna go back and take another
Speaker 3: team back? Or are you gonna give more money just
Speaker 3: to hopefully you get another better team? Are you gonna
Speaker 3: spend more money? If I'm an alum of you and
Speaker 3: I gave you five hundred thousand dollars, you want more
Speaker 3: to buy a crappy team like that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, if you can give five hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 5: you can probably do it again. That's some of these people.
Speaker 3: If there's somebody that would know, you would know because
Speaker 3: you chase.
Speaker 5: Those people, chased them. But you know, if they're gonna
Speaker 5: give that kind of money, that can probably you know,
Speaker 5: double that it again, but they don't want to make
Speaker 5: a mistake.
Speaker 3: How would you approach its, gillicuddy, You remember last year
Speaker 3: you gave a half a million, didn't turn out so good.
Speaker 3: But this year we hopefully, you know, how would.
Speaker 5: You hopefully hopefully you've had a good year, so it's
Speaker 5: not going to really affect your bottom line. Like, look
Speaker 5: at the guy that you know, the guy that owns
Speaker 5: the Phoenix Suns is a huge Michigan State alum, but
Speaker 5: Matt Ishbia. Yeah, and he's one of their biggest donors,
Speaker 5: you know, so he's he's got other issues. He's got
Speaker 5: the problem. He's got the sons. The son that's true too.
Speaker 5: But then his brother wants to buy the Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 5: I mean, the family's loaded with money.
Speaker 3: I wish I had that problem.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: Utah was fifteen and twelve on the season seven to
Speaker 6: nine and Big twelve. He'll he'll be uh, he's owed
Speaker 6: approximately five million dollars sixty five and sixty that's.
Speaker 5: Not a bad that's a pretty good deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a pretty good deal.
Speaker 5: But that's not a bad record, not a bad right,
Speaker 5: they got a winning record, and there was two games
Speaker 5: below five hundred.
Speaker 3: And you're in the Big twelve. Time, you're in the
Speaker 3: Big twelve going seven to nine. Where were they picked one?
Speaker 3: And whendn't you want five million dollars to go away? Sure?
Speaker 6: Sixty five and sixty two overall since taking over. Yeah,
Speaker 6: another incident, I guess if you want to call it that.
Speaker 6: Arizona State's BJ Freeman is no longer on that team
Speaker 6: due to the intrimental conduct for the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this has been I'm good, not think.
Speaker 3: I know it's been going. I'm going for a while
Speaker 3: right the head, but just kind of started the processing
Speaker 3: because I think he was He was suspended a game
Speaker 3: or two later.
Speaker 6: All right, he was ejected against Arizona and then Colorado. Uh,
Speaker 6: and then was suspended for the road team a road
Speaker 6: game against Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, problems there.
Speaker 3: I don't know if another transfer guy. I'm sure they
Speaker 3: paid him some money. Was he transfer transferre guy from
Speaker 3: a smaller school? Man buyer? Beware, that's kind of what
Speaker 3: I was referring to you earlier. I mean you to
Speaker 3: give me money and then you turn out to be
Speaker 3: that guy. Yeah, I want I want to warranty.
Speaker 5: Guarantee we're going to at least win twenty games and
Speaker 5: get to some tournament. Yeah, who knows, that's not gonna
Speaker 5: happen to Utah, probably and certainly.
Speaker 3: If I'm the dude that's gonna pay five hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: you damn right, I'm tweeting just sucks. Blah blah blah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know, no one's they're making fifty dollars whatever.
Speaker 3: They're not making much in their tweeting because they have
Speaker 3: nothing else to do. Right, Thank you, mister Zuckerber for
Speaker 3: all this great stuff.
Speaker 6: Following the upset win for Byuh. We've always talked about
Speaker 6: the chanting that went on in the student section Arizona immediately,
Speaker 6: or I guess shouldn't say imediately, but as quick as
Speaker 6: they could send out a statement apologizing. Uh, probably in
Speaker 6: my experience, the quickest apology I've seen from athletics regarding
Speaker 6: a certain situation like that.
Speaker 5: Maybe, uh, the UCLA thing, Yeah, that was pretty bad.
Speaker 3: I could pretty get a now he's no longer with
Speaker 3: the UCLA, you know, the spitting situation. There's been a
Speaker 3: few I've seen them, like I say a number of them.
Speaker 3: They just need to do something to police it if
Speaker 3: they aren't already.
Speaker 5: I mean, what can you do? Just don't give them tickets?
Speaker 3: Uh for the I mean I don't know what you
Speaker 3: can do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. You know, you can't really control
Speaker 5: every person in there.
Speaker 3: Well, what did you say?
Speaker 5: What did you say? What'd you say at the beginning?
Speaker 3: I think you can say what you say at the beginning?
Speaker 3: Move them?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I was thinking maybe move them to the
Speaker 5: other side of the arena and to the u of
Speaker 5: a bench side.
Speaker 3: Would that makes more sense at the end of the game,
Speaker 3: so the old harassment.
Speaker 5: Just put them over there, I mean, it's the same,
Speaker 5: just a big circle, right, isn't the same. I don't
Speaker 5: know they'd have to I suppose, but I mean, at
Speaker 5: least they'd be on the Arizona by the Arizona bench
Speaker 5: and not by the visitors bench. Like the band is
Speaker 5: over there, you know, blaring away during timeouts on purpose,
Speaker 5: right right right, and then the students are right behind him.
Speaker 3: I wonder, because you sit with us at the media
Speaker 3: right there, right, I wonder if you could put some
Speaker 3: stuff particle area just at the end of the game,
Speaker 3: raise them up as they come to the tunnel, you're
Speaker 3: still gonna hear the It's not gonna prevent them the
Speaker 3: voices and allowed, but at least the harassment, you know,
Speaker 3: as they go through the tunnel.
Speaker 6: I'm sure they could put some pleximbia, plexiglass or even
Speaker 6: the covering, the covering right of the tunnels. They should
Speaker 6: probably look into that, Dan.
Speaker 3: Yeah's just because just a roll away. It's one of
Speaker 3: those roll things at the end.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, this is probably the second third incident
Speaker 6: I've seen in my four years here already, and I'm
Speaker 6: sure there's been more, seemingly getting worse.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like how they would bring out ropes and
Speaker 5: stuff on the football sidelines for people, Yeah, to prevent
Speaker 5: them from Yeah that's on the field. Yeah, how will
Speaker 5: does that go? Never? Yeah, don't cross this line? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Else.
Speaker 6: The new Top twenty five came out for college basketball.
Speaker 6: Auburn remains at number one, Duke jumps to number two,
Speaker 6: or Florida, UH Florida stays at three, Houston at four,
Speaker 6: Tennessee at five. Some other highlights BYU comes into the
Speaker 6: top twenty five after the win. Arizona falls from nineteen
Speaker 6: to twenty two. Kind of a crazy situation for the
Speaker 6: IU Indianapolis men's basketball team. They were coming back home
Speaker 6: Monday and their bus caught fire.
Speaker 5: Everything burned.
Speaker 6: Players were safe, though, players and team and staff were safe.
Speaker 5: Everything else burned to a Christmas Are they doing? Okay?
Speaker 7: Are they doing?
Speaker 5: And this is awesome? This is not the IU of Bloomington,
Speaker 5: this is Indianapolis.
Speaker 6: So over the weekend, the Spurs announced that Greg Popovich
Speaker 6: will not is not expected to return to coach the
Speaker 6: Spurs this season, going kind of along with the news
Speaker 6: of Victim bin Yama's Do you think he's done? I
Speaker 6: would assume so. Yeah, I would hit a stroke, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: I hit a mile. He said he's sixty nine issue seventy.
Speaker 3: So do you think they would bring Becky Becky Harmon Hymond.
Speaker 6: I actually thought that would if he were to retire,
Speaker 6: be let go or whatever name Becky Hammond Hammond, Okay, uh,
Speaker 6: he's well.
Speaker 5: So to clarify, he's seventy six thirty six.
Speaker 6: Uh, I believe Becky Hammond's on the.
Speaker 5: Short list short lived.
Speaker 6: But she's currently coaching the Vegas Aces.
Speaker 5: So and she's done pretty well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's done very well at that level. I mean
Speaker 3: and I'm sure she has the respect of the players.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the whole thing and becoming a very
Speaker 3: good coach. If you have the respect of the players
Speaker 3: and they want to play for you, they'll play for you.
Speaker 5: I think I'm not sure who else they would go after.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe stick with the guy that's been in Papovich's stay. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, he'll have basically a whole season under his belt.
Speaker 6: He'll have the trust of the players.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, hasn't Mike Budenholz or he's a Papovich disciple.
Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, he's he's a UA guy. I mean,
Speaker 3: but he's hem he's tied to you. You know, he
Speaker 3: loved Lute when he was growing He went to the camps. Yeah,
Speaker 3: coach the camps.
Speaker 6: Over the weekend, the Golden State Warrior retired former Finals
Speaker 6: MVP and former Arizona Wildcat Andre Iguodal Jersey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that. Saw that good for him. Three championships.
Speaker 5: He's part of that pretty good, pretty good list of
Speaker 5: players up there in San Francisco too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would know because you play a group watching
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 5: Of Now I got to think Aboutickberry, Nate Thurmond, you know.
Speaker 3: Because of the seventies, right, a lot of the seventies.
Speaker 5: Get all those You're gonna get all those Steffs and Klay.
Speaker 6: Thompson's and is Draymond and one of those guys, Draymond,
Speaker 6: I would think.
Speaker 5: So he's such a pain. He won all those championships,
Speaker 5: they're all part of that. I believe it's four championships.
Speaker 5: They had the two with Katie, the one before and
Speaker 5: the one after.
Speaker 3: But so, what do you think about j wil masking Draymond?
Speaker 5: What do I think about it? He's a pain in
Speaker 5: the neck, but he's pretty talented.
Speaker 3: He's a pain in God. He cost him one. He
Speaker 3: cost him one with a kick in Game six.
Speaker 5: Did we talk? Yeah, it's right kicking Lebron. Do you
Speaker 5: did you see him during the NBA All Star Game
Speaker 5: whatever of that thing was, Yeah, where he was talking
Speaker 5: about how it was terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they're gonna win it all again.
Speaker 5: Oh the Warriors. Yeah, the Jimmy Butler trade looks like
Speaker 5: it's paying off. It's so far.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be good, perfect fit, perfect fit for the
Speaker 3: perfect coach because he he let him play, and you
Speaker 3: see how the pits in.
Speaker 6: You got anything else? Last thing, Uh, I want to
Speaker 6: kind of get your opinion on this. Should George Sanders
Speaker 6: won't be working out for teams at the NFL Combine.
Speaker 6: He'll just be interviewing with the teams. Yeah, lot a shock,
Speaker 6: not a shock. And he's going to be one or
Speaker 6: two right probably, Yeah, more than likely.
Speaker 5: I saw another draft things today with Team Act like
Speaker 5: one of the Raiders number six he knows. Yeah, well,
Speaker 5: let me just chime in one more. I think that's you.
Speaker 5: Very related is Richard Jefferson is going to be part
Speaker 5: of the number one team on ABC and ESPN with
Speaker 5: Mike Breen and Doris Burg the rest of the way
Speaker 5: going into the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3: He did one yesterday, I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been doing it and so there's all kinds
Speaker 5: of rumors of him going way. Maybe the Amazon and
Speaker 5: a lot of people are after him. Yeah, he's been
Speaker 5: really good. Yeah, since retiring in twenty after, you know,
Speaker 5: playing for the Warriors in Cleveland and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Not to pet myself on the back, but I'll put
Speaker 6: myself on the back. When he was a senior or
Speaker 6: junior junior, when he laughed, right, uh, you see you
Speaker 6: saw this coming and you were you were?
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 3: He's great on the mic. He was great, give you
Speaker 3: his opinions, even though we didn't want him.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Paid in the neck with us sometimes every now and again,
Speaker 3: out spoken.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: He spoke so well at Bobby's funeral if you remember that. Yes, Uh,
Speaker 3: just is what it is. I called him in my
Speaker 3: column kind of like a and this is just an
Speaker 3: an analogy, not Muhammad al Ali, the guys of Arizona.
Speaker 3: He would say some funny things, very articulate, funny at times,
Speaker 3: very engaging. He had that personality and he still does
Speaker 3: sometimes over the top, you know, with his him and
Speaker 3: Perkins going at it. Not not a shock, not a
Speaker 3: shock at all.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 5: I mean they're talking about him because you know Amazon
Speaker 5: is going to be jumping into the NBA here next year,
Speaker 5: and he's worked with the Iron Eagle with the nets
Speaker 5: for a number of years and Eagles got the play
Speaker 5: by play job there. So the rumor is that maybe
Speaker 5: he'll wrap it up with ABC and go Amazon. Yeah,
Speaker 5: with her endless amounts of money. If I only have.
Speaker 3: People that would chase me like that. By the way,
Speaker 3: I'm looking for advertisers.
Speaker 5: They're also looking for Dwayne Wade, so it could be
Speaker 5: Dwayne Wade and Richard it's gonna they'll have a good
Speaker 5: uh yeah, good.
Speaker 3: But Richard is it's it's what he does. Him and
Speaker 3: Channing two. Channing's very good looking for to you the
Speaker 3: NBA channel. Yes, that's it.
Speaker 5: We're good.
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect timing. We're going to take a break here
Speaker 3: and call mister liven Good here on the other side.
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Speaker 4: Retirement is great, kids are great, grandkids are great.
Speaker 7: So life is good.
Speaker 3: So I was gonna ask you we just had Josh
Speaker 3: passener on earlier in the hour, and I said, why
Speaker 3: in the world would you ever want to come back
Speaker 3: to this coaching situation with Nile? Now I'm gonna think
Speaker 3: to you, aren't you glad you're just not in it anymore?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question, Steve, and I know exactly
Speaker 4: what Joyce's answer would be.
Speaker 7: I just talked to him a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Height.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a it's just a different profession. It's
Speaker 4: still a great profession because of what you do, but
Speaker 4: it's different, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: As far as leading a department too, I mean, there's
Speaker 5: so many different things now you have to be concerned with,
Speaker 5: especially with the NIL and you know the revenue sharing
Speaker 5: deals that are happening. What do you think is happening
Speaker 5: inside McHale? Is there kind of trying to filter their
Speaker 5: way through all of this.
Speaker 4: Well, I feel bad for Desiree and I feel bad
Speaker 4: for Arizona Athletics, and they'll get it done.
Speaker 7: There's not it's not a question of it. It's it's
Speaker 7: more of a win.
Speaker 4: But it's it's just an every hour thing, not every day,
Speaker 4: week or month. It's every hour because of watching being
Speaker 4: very careful about what you spend, figuring out different ways
Speaker 4: to generate different kinds of revenue, and yet at the
Speaker 4: same time having to remember which which she and they do.
Speaker 4: This is a relatively small community. It's a great college town,
Speaker 4: a great place, but it's small and so the resources
Speaker 4: and kinds of things those are gonna be the challenges
Speaker 4: going forward. I talk to ads across the country every
Speaker 4: single day, and particularly.
Speaker 7: Some some are in the profession right now, some have retired.
Speaker 4: But that question comes up, is the revenue aspect of it,
Speaker 4: Just watching what you's been what you've been it for,
Speaker 4: and and the hard thing at some point in time
Speaker 4: taking a look at you know, can we do all
Speaker 4: the things.
Speaker 7: That we've been doing, And.
Speaker 4: That, guys, that's the hardest question ever because nobody wants
Speaker 4: to look at what you might have to get rid
Speaker 4: of or you can't have. But those are those are
Speaker 4: bigger questions right now, and particularly as we're looking at
Speaker 4: in the spring of this year.
Speaker 5: So you know, I was gonna just say, for years,
Speaker 5: there's been talk about doing something with the football stadium,
Speaker 5: either taking down that press box or doing something on
Speaker 5: that the west side. Where do you think that stands
Speaker 5: now given you know what the UVA is going through financially,
Speaker 5: and and like you said, you know, do we have
Speaker 5: people who can who can put the foot the bill
Speaker 5: for something like that.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a great question, and it's really kind
Speaker 4: of the bigger question. There are so many things and
Speaker 4: we've even when I was here, we worked through and
Speaker 4: that we still have did lots of plans on lots
Speaker 4: of things. But there's a lot of things with Arizona
Speaker 4: Stadium that have to do they're going to be very expensive,
Speaker 4: that have nothing to do without with how it will look.
Speaker 4: They have everything to do with with the infrastructure and
Speaker 4: rebar and strengthening things that have gotten old over the years.
Speaker 7: Nobody's fault, it's just gotten old.
Speaker 4: And yet they're not going to be the pretty when
Speaker 4: you look at it and say, wow, that's what we wanted,
Speaker 4: that's that's taking us.
Speaker 7: Into And and then you go forward and you've got.
Speaker 4: So many things like that, so many different kinds of
Speaker 4: people asking for money for doing really important things, and
Speaker 4: within the university, within the community, all the difference, and
Speaker 4: then you add to it in il and athletic projects.
Speaker 4: So I don't know where all that money comes from
Speaker 4: and somebody's got to figure out that part because it's
Speaker 4: not just and I'm an athletic person, so I care
Speaker 4: about wildcat athletics, but there are also many, many other
Speaker 4: kinds of things going on in JUCSAN that are critical
Speaker 4: their health or all those things. So guys, whoever comes
Speaker 4: up with a solution of that deserves some sort more
Speaker 4: than a prize, because it's going to be a really
Speaker 4: tricky thing of how you get all of these different
Speaker 4: entities satisfied in terms of the kinds of money that
Speaker 4: it's needed.
Speaker 7: So and you add to it the university priorities as
Speaker 7: well as we've read.
Speaker 4: Heard and seen in the last number of weeks and months,
Speaker 4: the number of money that's being lost with regards to
Speaker 4: the funding is longer there. So that's that's of some
Speaker 4: of those kinds of things that made up I don't
Speaker 4: know on this particularity in February, I just am glad
Speaker 4: I'm retired.
Speaker 5: Yees.
Speaker 3: No intact, I was going to ask you about this
Speaker 3: before I reached out to you.
Speaker 5: Today.
Speaker 3: We're in that final month of the nitty gritty. You
Speaker 3: were part of the nitty gritty back in the day
Speaker 3: as a selection committee was it a fun time. Was
Speaker 3: it a nervous time? Was it a crazy time? I
Speaker 3: think the ad from Duke or North Carolina is the
Speaker 3: chairman this year, North.
Speaker 4: Carolina Public Cunningham knowing well he's a longtime friend. Yes,
Speaker 4: so he's the chair and they've expanded. See if you
Speaker 4: guys are probably well aware that they've expanded. I think
Speaker 4: this is the second, first or second year now they've
Speaker 4: expanded to on the men's side, ben women to twelve members,
Speaker 4: not ten. It's a great question because it was and
Speaker 4: is a fun time of the year, but it's also
Speaker 4: a tough time of the year because you're going to
Speaker 4: make somebody unhappy regardless of what happens. And the old philosophy,
Speaker 4: which is still the philosophy, and the most important thing
Speaker 4: with basketball in terms of the NCAA is you've got
Speaker 4: to get it right on selection. People can play their
Speaker 4: ways out of a bad seed, but you've got to
Speaker 4: be in the tournament to have a chance to play
Speaker 4: your way out of bad seed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's always there's always a couple you know that
Speaker 5: are going to be upset no matter what.
Speaker 3: You know, Well, a lot of those lines go ahead, and.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, what about expansion that's been kind
Speaker 5: of a big subject in the last few weeks. Do
Speaker 5: you think the tournament's going to expand I.
Speaker 4: Don't think that's a question again of not to be
Speaker 4: cute about it, but I don't think it's a question
Speaker 4: of if. I think it's when and when it's in
Speaker 4: another year. And those decisions typically are made during the
Speaker 4: and recommended during the summer meetings of the Basketball Committee.
Speaker 7: So the upcoming summer meeting, I think it's going to happen.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any question what that number is,
Speaker 4: or being a number of different numbers thrown out, but
Speaker 4: what that number is, who knows, But I think.
Speaker 7: It will be.
Speaker 4: The issue is going to be all of these kinds
Speaker 4: of things, And we went through that with the college
Speaker 4: football playoffs, that all of the expansion kinds of things
Speaker 4: involved revenue generation and what the media outlets are willing
Speaker 4: to pay and how much more they're willing to pay,
Speaker 4: and so all of those kinds of things. There's some
Speaker 4: tricky kinds of things in there, because if there's not
Speaker 4: a resource in terms of adding revenue, then you're really
Speaker 4: just flooding the pie smaller.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting so Jim, so you expended to seventy two,
Speaker 3: you know, seventy three, seventy four, and seventy five will
Speaker 3: be upset to because there's never a magic number that's
Speaker 3: going to make every pob So the purpose is what
Speaker 3: to get more money? Well, it would be the purpose
Speaker 3: because then it becomes watered down and it's not so
Speaker 3: special that you made the tournament if you're one hundred
Speaker 3: teams in.
Speaker 4: See the answer on that is is really yes, yes,
Speaker 4: and yes, because the idea are going to you'll allow
Speaker 4: more teams in the tournament, which is you guys both know.
Speaker 4: You know, once you put that line, whatever that number is,
Speaker 4: who's ever on the other side of it.
Speaker 7: It's going to be offended. So that's one thing.
Speaker 4: The other purpose is is potentially it's going.
Speaker 7: To be worth more revenue, more games.
Speaker 4: Then trying to figure out, you know, when these games
Speaker 4: are going to be played in terms of as you
Speaker 4: as the regular season president goes and comes up against
Speaker 4: conference tournaments.
Speaker 7: So I don't know, I've got my own personal thing.
Speaker 4: But that part of it, and I've had a lot
Speaker 4: of conversation with the people involved with college basketball and
Speaker 4: involved on the committee. Uh, it's it's just the first
Speaker 4: premise is trying to get more teams to have a
Speaker 4: chance to play.
Speaker 7: In the quote in the dance, Yeah.
Speaker 5: There was some talk when we were talking to Josh earlier.
Speaker 5: He mentioned maybe playing you know, more games on Tuesday
Speaker 5: and Wednesday of that week. You know that would all
Speaker 5: do just like Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 4: To that part right there, the Dayton would have to
Speaker 4: be doubled or expanded. There be another site, and certainly
Speaker 4: most people believe right now, at least the people I
Speaker 4: talked to, that would be more of a Western site.
Speaker 4: Uh so that you'd have the Bispey Wednesday doing Dayton.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, Jim, we talked a number of times, and
Speaker 3: you came from Washington State and we talked about this.
Speaker 3: When you came here there was that mailbox incident and
Speaker 3: you you have and you were the ad at the
Speaker 3: time or leaving the a D I use that only example.
Speaker 3: If you have five hundred kids, you have your own kids,
Speaker 3: then you have like five hundred and twenty kids at
Speaker 3: u of a right because you're all responsible for that
Speaker 3: and now and that's you must not sleep at night.
Speaker 3: We talked about that. Every day you go to bed
Speaker 3: us what could happen. I hope it doesn't happen. Blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. And now over the weekend, and I'm not
Speaker 3: sure anything like this ever happened with you at the
Speaker 3: AD or an administrator. There was a great game, fantastic
Speaker 3: game to watch, unfortunately Arizona lost, and then you have
Speaker 3: the student section. It wasn't the fantasy, the student section
Speaker 3: saying what they said, and you're thinking, now, I'm responsible
Speaker 3: to clean this up. I mean, it's more than just
Speaker 3: you being an AD It's like you being something that
Speaker 3: you shouldn't have to be, Steve.
Speaker 7: It's just it's a public relations nightmare.
Speaker 4: And whether it was Saturday night and that game and
Speaker 4: what happened, or the any other kinds of things that
Speaker 4: can come up that you don't even think about. And
Speaker 4: quite honestly, there's a number of those, as you well
Speaker 4: know from your background experience, there's a number of things
Speaker 4: that nobody ever hears about.
Speaker 7: Yes, because make the light of day.
Speaker 4: Now, that's harder in this day and age with social
Speaker 4: media to not have something come out and something that
Speaker 4: part of it. But that's a public relationist nightmare because
Speaker 4: that part involves a different part of the crowd. It
Speaker 4: involves a whole different kinds of thing, attacking of another school,
Speaker 4: of a religion, all those kinds of things, and it's
Speaker 4: just but that's the job and not the only job
Speaker 4: of an ad. Those things are never those never stop
Speaker 4: those never ever. I was told when I when I
Speaker 4: retired here, finished here and went to UNV, I was told,
Speaker 4: Holy cow, aren't you worried about the gaming situation in Vegas?
Speaker 4: We probably had fewer gaming situations at UNLB than we
Speaker 4: did U of A in terms of kinds of things.
Speaker 4: And of course, you know, I'm not trying to bring
Speaker 4: up to President State what they're going through, but those
Speaker 4: those are nightmare kinds of things that happened. And again
Speaker 4: I thought U of A and Desaree react reacted extremely
Speaker 4: well out of it, got on it right away and
Speaker 4: got it out and let it go. Typically, those kinds
Speaker 4: of things, if they're handled right and early enough, don't
Speaker 4: grow legs and don't don't extending beyond that.
Speaker 5: I mean, that was that was handled quickly. I mean,
Speaker 5: I was handled that night. There was there were some statements,
Speaker 5: and then I mean yesterday it was kind of in
Speaker 5: the news more yesterday, but that was it. Hopefully that's
Speaker 5: the end of it.
Speaker 4: Yesterday Yesterday became much more of an issue with Tony
Speaker 4: and the call.
Speaker 3: Right right, yeah, no question.
Speaker 5: Do you think there's a way that maybe the student
Speaker 5: section could be moved to the other end of the arena?
Speaker 5: Would that may make a different where they're closer to
Speaker 5: the U of a bench and not the visitors bench.
Speaker 5: Is that I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's a situated like ours. That's that's trickier.
Speaker 4: Uh And it sounds like but who knows, I mean,
Speaker 4: far be it from me. Uh, those are all there's
Speaker 4: all kinds of possibilities. That's that's where you really depend
Speaker 4: upon And guys, remember now I'm not taking credit for it,
Speaker 4: but Zona Zoos started during my time here. Zona Zoo
Speaker 4: became an entity during my time. So, uh, it's it's
Speaker 4: a great group. They do a super job. What you're
Speaker 4: hoping is you get great leadership because leadership in that
Speaker 4: group needs to be because they're so good for for
Speaker 4: the Wildcat basketball, but they also have that part of it.
Speaker 4: Things can get out of whack pretty quick. So I
Speaker 4: don't know if that's the problem or not.
Speaker 3: By moving into send letters to Jim because he's the
Speaker 3: one that started dismissed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, please let me get three phrase that.
Speaker 7: There are other places that send letters.
Speaker 5: I try to remember what it was like before.
Speaker 3: Nobody anyway, guys, Yeah, you're right, you're right, no question.
Speaker 7: Nobody put what's a damn.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, that's what they cost. I don't even know
Speaker 5: what they cost.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you another question. Let me ask you
Speaker 3: another question that you don't have to worry about solving this.
Speaker 3: But we hear it all the time, and it's just,
Speaker 3: in my mind not feasible. So you know, everyone loves
Speaker 3: Duke's sideline with the kids, and that's crazy great for TV.
Speaker 3: Could you explain to the people that it's just not
Speaker 3: possible here because those tickets need to be sold to
Speaker 3: the people with the money.
Speaker 4: It's not possible for a couple of reasons. And and
Speaker 4: one is the financial There's no question about it. And
Speaker 4: when you go through and and do the finances of
Speaker 4: what people are parging now, and then the competitive fee
Speaker 4: and all these things. But Duke is just an unusual
Speaker 4: situation because one is an extremely small yes, exactly, that
Speaker 4: part right there. The ability to control that size of
Speaker 4: entity is much much easier than any of the arenas,
Speaker 4: whether it's McHale or whether it's arena as Greek play
Speaker 4: in the in the Big twelve.
Speaker 7: So, but the finance is part of it.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know you've watched it, just like this
Speaker 4: year the first time. This year you have a along
Speaker 4: with other schools for all good reasons, have those six
Speaker 4: seats next to the airs on a bench, you know,
Speaker 4: high high income seats because people want to sit on
Speaker 4: the floor next to the team.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: And those are those are and those are those become
Speaker 4: even more important now the revenue generation potential of where
Speaker 4: you're seeing is.
Speaker 5: Right, that's for sure. Those look like pretty prime seats.
Speaker 5: And I've seen a few people down down there. It's
Speaker 5: it's like NBA type situations now.
Speaker 4: Well, and there's only six of them, and most schools
Speaker 4: have done that in the edge. Notice they're only on
Speaker 4: the home team side. So and there's reason for all
Speaker 4: that scholarship role and those front seats like that are
Speaker 4: expensive becoming more expensive and to an number of people,
Speaker 4: that's really important to sit down there.
Speaker 3: Right right just before we go. You've been doing this
Speaker 3: a heck of a long time. You have been doing
Speaker 3: this a long time. What are your your top three
Speaker 3: priorities now for the grandkids and stuff.
Speaker 4: Number one is keeping my bride happy and there, so
Speaker 4: that's number one.
Speaker 7: Number two.
Speaker 4: Are making sure that my daughter and son and son
Speaker 4: in law and daughter in law that that they're they're
Speaker 4: getting things that they need. And then number three and
Speaker 4: it jumps up very much for those four grandkids, those
Speaker 4: of watching making sure the things that I missed when
Speaker 4: aren't my kids were growing up that I don't miss.
Speaker 4: So there's very seldom now will I miss some sort
Speaker 4: of activity, whether it's a sport, an event, or another
Speaker 4: event that they're involved in. And so Linda and I
Speaker 4: that's a priority to be there. And whether it's indoors outdoors.
Speaker 4: You know sometimes in middle school you're playing outdoors basketball
Speaker 4: and volleyball.
Speaker 7: But see, those are very easy priorities for us.
Speaker 4: I should I should maybe at the top of that
Speaker 4: list before any of those, because it probably matters is
Speaker 4: trying to just stay healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know you're right.
Speaker 5: Are you still golfing part? Are you still playing golf?
Speaker 7: No, I have not played golf.
Speaker 4: The last time I played golf was in the fall
Speaker 4: of twenty nineteen. Then I had the heart surgery net
Speaker 4: but it's been with our rights and things, it's hard
Speaker 4: to do it. I miss it. I used to didn't
Speaker 4: like it. I loved it. I mean, I love to play.
Speaker 4: I love the competitive part of it. Some days we're
Speaker 4: better than others. But I loved it. I haven't played
Speaker 4: for a long time, and so I missed that part
Speaker 4: of it. But you know what, Hey, I'm happy. I'm
Speaker 4: blessed to be doing what I'm doing. I'm to live
Speaker 4: in this great community, listen to guys like you. Guys
Speaker 4: talk about athletics and talk about different things, and you know,
Speaker 4: nobody has the answer to any of these issues right now.
Speaker 4: People have thoughts that they think if we did this
Speaker 4: or did that, And I used to get those, not hundreds,
Speaker 4: but thousands of those ideas. Here's a good idea, here's
Speaker 4: somebody had to hire, here's somebody had a fire. But
Speaker 4: here's something you had to do. So nobody has the answer.
Speaker 4: Athletics interplease. Athletics is too important for the fiber of institutions,
Speaker 4: for the fiber of what's going on. So I hope
Speaker 4: it doesn't become Guys. The scariest thing for me on
Speaker 4: that front is becomes a game that only rich people
Speaker 4: can play. And by that I mean if your nest
Speaker 4: egg is big enough, you can compete and play everybody
Speaker 4: else done, right, Yeah, and unfortunately that looks like it's scare. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're scared also some of that, right, I know.
Speaker 5: You're exactly right.
Speaker 3: Well, Jim, thanks again for your time as always.
Speaker 4: Anytime, guys, thanks for what you do and go cast.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Jim, Jim, I appreciate it. Jim Levin good,
Speaker 3: of course. Uh, let's take a break, come back, maybe
Speaker 3: take some.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to my on the ball. Here, I'll
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Speaker 5: Who's this?
Speaker 16: You know, I take a couple of months off and
Speaker 16: Arizona lost to be Yu. Yes, it's Gabriel and Arizona
Speaker 16: should have won that game. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3: I was wondering about you because I think I said,
Speaker 3: things must be going really well because game hasn't called.
Speaker 3: Now you've called.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, so yeah, let's talk about it. Arizona
Speaker 16: should have won that game.
Speaker 17: Caleb, Caleb should have should have should have.
Speaker 16: Had that one, that one E Strabaska and all and
Speaker 16: unnursing all because of that idiot referee that should have
Speaker 16: been us. That should have not been a foul. But
Speaker 16: but yeah, thanks a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people got on me. I'm really on Twitter and
Speaker 3: I said, uh, Arizona may have been robbed here me.
Speaker 3: It's a journalism word because I can't say yes or no,
Speaker 3: because what if he was writing, you know, say this,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a gray word. But and I knew
Speaker 3: he was didn't foul.
Speaker 5: But what am I?
Speaker 3: I'm a journalist, you know, I can't say. But so Dave,
Speaker 3: we've watched.
Speaker 5: Enough basketball to realize what's a foul.
Speaker 3: Sometimes that's not you know, you know Gabe, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna call mister Padilla an idiot. But he was out
Speaker 3: of he was out a position.
Speaker 5: The referee.
Speaker 3: The referee, yeah, because he called it from the back.
Speaker 16: Yeah I'm here, Yeah, I'm here. He was about sixty
Speaker 16: feet away where and yeah, and he basically call it
Speaker 16: and thought that was a foul.
Speaker 17: But that wasn't a foul.
Speaker 16: But yeah, Arizona gout rob and and let.
Speaker 17: Me talk to what happened after the game.
Speaker 7: So there was.
Speaker 4: A lot of don't, don't cut that, don't don't cut.
Speaker 16: I won't, I won't, I won't, I won't.
Speaker 7: So I won't.
Speaker 17: So obviously there was not a scuffle.
Speaker 16: That was but there was a lot of mouth the
Speaker 16: off words. But the people who thought it was the
Speaker 16: b YU players and that would be and the b y.
Speaker 17: U players basically.
Speaker 16: Gave the Zona Zoo the the l that you're a
Speaker 16: loser and uh, and the.
Speaker 17: Zona Zoo students basically said.
Speaker 16: The Mormons, I mean, I mean, I don't want.
Speaker 17: To defend the zone. As you listen to all the
Speaker 17: b y U fans listen, if you're gonna, if you're.
Speaker 16: Gonna dish out, then you're gonna take it. Stop being
Speaker 16: offended about stop being offended.
Speaker 17: Just because the Zona Zoo basically said.
Speaker 16: The Mormons, come on, it's gonna if you're gonna dish out,
Speaker 16: gonna take it.
Speaker 5: The only thing that I saw, again I wasn't there,
Speaker 5: but I was watching on TV, was some of the
Speaker 5: b YU players are kind of waving at the fans like,
Speaker 5: you know, bye bla, we just beat you, you know,
Speaker 5: And then I think things started to escalate, and that's
Speaker 5: maybe when the chance began. But there was a little
Speaker 5: of that, not to defend anything that the fans were
Speaker 5: screaming was you know, it is terrible, but there was
Speaker 5: a little bit of back and forth at the end
Speaker 5: of the game.
Speaker 4: Gabe appreciate the call keep calling back, not just on
Speaker 4: tough times.
Speaker 17: Anytime, anytime. Love to love to talk to you guys.
Speaker 16: Now I'm going to go back.
Speaker 17: In my bunker, buy you guys bird down there.
Speaker 16: I'm a go cat.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, a lot of fans in the bunkers.
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't defend what he just said because
Speaker 3: it was bad and whether they give or take or whatever,
Speaker 3: it's it's bad for everybody. It just is, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like saying, you know, things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know again hearing from from Jim Live
Speaker 5: and good who you know led to athletic departments not
Speaker 5: just here but in other the universities. I'm sure he
Speaker 5: ran up to someone like he said, like you said,
Speaker 5: every day you just never know to exist. I don't
Speaker 5: like us in the news business. You just never know.
Speaker 5: And sometimes that's just part of what happens in athletics
Speaker 5: professional college. But certainly, you know, in a small town
Speaker 5: like this, you know, it kind of hits hard. It's like, really,
Speaker 5: that's how we're going to be looked at. You know, nationally,
Speaker 5: they're going to think, oh, well, u of a and
Speaker 5: you know, bunch of racists and they're screaming like that.
Speaker 5: You know, it's not a good look for the school.
Speaker 5: So did they got it out?
Speaker 3: Did you read the apology?
Speaker 5: You read it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a lot of people too, and everybody. You know,
Speaker 3: you put twelve people in a room and half you
Speaker 3: said they liked, half they didn't. You're not going to
Speaker 3: please everybody. A lot of people said they was just
Speaker 3: a disingenuous not really a sincere YadA YadA from desiree.
Speaker 3: She she apologized, I mean, what else did you want?
Speaker 3: What else? What do they want her to say? It
Speaker 3: was bad? She said, sorry, who we are?
Speaker 5: And you know it's one of those things too. I've
Speaker 5: got most of my friends are not in Tucson and
Speaker 5: this and this is what they see, you know, excuse me.
Speaker 5: You know they'll see something like this and that's when
Speaker 5: I get the text. What's going on with your school?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 7: Right? You know?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, especially in your in your former line of work,
Speaker 3: you know, this is what we're supporting. The thing about it,
Speaker 3: and I wanted to clarify it because even that a
Speaker 3: coworker at my place was jokes, is how are you?
Speaker 4: How are how are they doing this that you're the
Speaker 4: school you cover? I don't know, we praised it. This
Speaker 4: is well, let me tell you, it's not the fans.
Speaker 4: It's the students, right, It's the students. And it's always
Speaker 4: the students.
Speaker 3: You know, there might be others that kind of joined in,
Speaker 3: but it was the students who started it and continue
Speaker 3: to be a loud Juan, Who's Who's a perfect example
Speaker 3: of the of of seeing it kind of maybe being
Speaker 3: part of it earlier. He he knows and not surprised, right,
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised, Like you said at the beginning of
Speaker 3: the of the show.
Speaker 6: No, especially when Arizona loses, you you'll get those chants
Speaker 6: when it's a big time game, you know, the rivalry
Speaker 6: is like U c. L A back in the day
Speaker 6: issue every year, or even when you get a team
Speaker 6: like Tennessee. We here a couple of years ago. I
Speaker 6: think tommy second year. There were some chance it was
Speaker 6: a good game. There were some chance. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 6: it's just it's a one of those bad parts of
Speaker 6: the sports world that it.
Speaker 5: Just happened all something to be passionate, but maybe you
Speaker 5: just want to, you know, not go.
Speaker 3: Over the exactly. Well, you guys follow soccer. Do you
Speaker 3: follow soccer a little bit? So I know that Blake does.
Speaker 3: I think Blake does.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And the stuff they say that they shut it down, right, Uh,
Speaker 3: they shut it down and said we're not gonna put
Speaker 3: up with this crowd, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, there was all kinds of problems in Africa
Speaker 5: and places like that, or with the African American athletes
Speaker 5: or black athletes. You know, that's been a terrible problems
Speaker 5: in that sport for a long time.
Speaker 3: Right, right, and and and and that's a that's a
Speaker 3: stadium of wherever they're at.
Speaker 5: It's not just a side that's that's the town. And
Speaker 5: I don't think Tuson wants to be known for that.
Speaker 5: And again, it's kind of tarnishes the reputation.
Speaker 3: Here's the problem, Dave, and like you used to be
Speaker 3: used to go chase the money to support this to
Speaker 3: how do you undo? How do you put the toothpaste
Speaker 3: back in the in the in the in the do?
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't have an answer for that.
Speaker 5: I think you just have to kind of let it,
Speaker 5: let it ride for a little bit and just you know,
Speaker 5: let it calm down. And unfortunately, we've got another game
Speaker 5: coming up this week, and you know, the fans can
Speaker 5: act better, and I'm will probably be some messaging, you
Speaker 5: know amongst the Zona Zoo, like Jim was just talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there definitely will be.
Speaker 6: After the spinning incident with U C l A, Yeah,
Speaker 6: there was messages, there were there was extra security there,
Speaker 6: especially at the tunnel. There's there's gonna be stuff like
Speaker 6: that come uh Wednesday night, and especially in about a
Speaker 6: week or so when the sun Devils come to town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well let me tell you exactly. You you clarified
Speaker 3: what you were saying when they lose. Yeah, So if
Speaker 3: they don't lose Wednesday, you're not gonna hear very much
Speaker 3: right when they do. Are they gonna lose intent in
Speaker 3: this place anymore this year? Probably not so. But when
Speaker 3: they lose, that's when it escalates.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: I was in a football you're not there.
Speaker 6: There's way worst chance that you just don't hear. The
Speaker 6: students can as the stadium so big, you just don't
Speaker 6: hear it.
Speaker 3: Did you go to games as a student? Did you
Speaker 3: go as recently as a two football?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So did you hear you're across the way?
Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, but I'm usually across the way,
Speaker 5: and usually the noise I hear is from behind me
Speaker 5: more than it is across the way. I didn't really
Speaker 5: notice that much during from from the zone a zoo section.
Speaker 5: Maybe they do there, and again it's pretty portions of
Speaker 5: the zoo. Yeah, you're like, oh, why you saying that?
Speaker 6: You have half the zoo saying that, Yeah, you have
Speaker 6: half the ones actually watching the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a weird environment for football. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: like I think I told you before, you know, I
Speaker 5: went to Yankee Stadium last year. We talk about fans
Speaker 5: and some of the stuff coming out of Sure, the
Speaker 5: fans there and you're just sitting in the upper deck
Speaker 5: and it's loud, but you know, they'll pick up on
Speaker 5: something and they'll chant and they'll cheer. But it's not
Speaker 5: like you know what we saw the other day. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's pretty disious, not right, just not right. So we'll
Speaker 5: see what happens. But I agree with you, they'll be messaging,
Speaker 5: there'll be more security up. It's like when people try
Speaker 5: to fix things after the problems already happened. What's your
Speaker 5: point now, so you know that was gonna happened. Didn't
Speaker 5: they do that with the spinning then, like they have
Speaker 5: some security guys just walking the aisles the entire game.
Speaker 6: That game there was the spinning incident, but then there
Speaker 6: was also chance. So they had the video board saying
Speaker 6: please don't do this, please please act respectfully.
Speaker 5: Where the PAC twelve, Like.
Speaker 3: I say, if they don't have cameras up in that
Speaker 3: those rafters pointing at that area for you know, four
Speaker 3: or five cameras point out there just to just to
Speaker 3: say who's throwing stuff and who's probably not saying stuff
Speaker 3: because it's probably too too loud to hear it. But
Speaker 3: the throwing things and creating problems, that's and who knows,
Speaker 3: they may already do that to eliminate some of the
Speaker 3: people that are in there.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: A lot of times too, the you know, your fellow
Speaker 5: fan will turn on you too, Like if you're the
Speaker 5: one throwing the bottle onto the crowd, into the crowd,
Speaker 5: you're yeah, they're pointing at him, you know, get him
Speaker 5: out of here, so that you know they have to have.
Speaker 3: Like so you remember the time someone through a bottle cheerleader, right,
Speaker 3: I think they solve that issue, but that's happens. That happens.
Speaker 6: I think one way you could possibly fix this is
Speaker 6: actually have a signed seating.
Speaker 5: You know exactly who's more likely sitting.
Speaker 6: Do the card How do you do the cards? Do
Speaker 6: you reserve? You swipe and first come, first serve? Oh
Speaker 6: so you reserve to get in, yes, and you sit
Speaker 6: wherever you can if you come there first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, but you know who's in the building, you.
Speaker 6: Know who's in the you don't know where they're at
Speaker 6: in you know, you can probably narrow it down to
Speaker 6: that section. But that's what, right, five hundred students maybe
Speaker 6: maybe that's a solvet I think, you.
Speaker 5: Know, there's gonna have to be those hidden cameras inside
Speaker 5: and just tell them, hey, you know we're watching, we're watching.
Speaker 3: And let them know that we're watching, because it will
Speaker 3: prevent it. People maybe sometimes don't care that you're watching.
Speaker 5: But you know, the camera is one thing. But if
Speaker 5: they're just chanting, I don't know who's doing that, people
Speaker 5: are going to scream. You know, how do you stop that? Right?
Speaker 3: Okay, we got to go good show today. Thanks Dave,
Speaker 3: see Wednesday. Thank you want. We'll see you Wednesday Wednesday,
Speaker 3: and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Thanks a bunch