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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks very much, Nicole, as we start a

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday night edition of night Side. It is, of course

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the work week, the work week for

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<v Speaker 2>all of us. I'm here every Monday through Friday night

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<v Speaker 2>from eight until midnight, although it will be off Tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 2>and Morgan White will join us tomorrow evening, So please

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<v Speaker 2>be good to Morgan. I'm sure he will put together

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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting show, different type guests and just a

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<v Speaker 2>little personal matter that I had to deal with. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with and be back on Friday. And I remind

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<v Speaker 2>you that on Friday, we're going to do our last

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<v Speaker 2>pre election presidential poll. We will do that on Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night during the eleven o'clock hour, and anyone who was

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<v Speaker 2>called in during the week is still eligible to cast

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<v Speaker 2>a vote on Friday night. It's down to two candidates, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the vice president, Vice President Harris, former President Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>love to get a sense, we've done this now every

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<v Speaker 2>last twentieth hour of the week, beginning in late March, April, May, June, July, August, September,

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<v Speaker 2>and now October will be our eighth snap poll, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll look back and see how things have progressed. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that you're voting for have changed over the months,

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<v Speaker 2>but we do know who will be finally on the

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<v Speaker 2>ballot on November fifth, and you have an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>cast a vote on the radio, but also, of course

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<v Speaker 2>you can cast one in person, by the mail or

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<v Speaker 2>early at your local polling place, depending upon which stage

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<v Speaker 2>you lived in. My name again is Dan ra I

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<v Speaker 2>am the host. We have both Rob and Dan double

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<v Speaker 2>producing tonight, which great always makes a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable for them and for me. And we have four

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting guests that we're going to talk to, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get to a couple of topics. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give you the other side of that question three,

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<v Speaker 2>The yes on question three coming up at nine o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock when I talk with attorney Jason Greenberg, who

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<v Speaker 2>was just back from Israel. Jason actually went was in

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<v Speaker 2>Israel a year ago on October seventh. I think you've

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<v Speaker 2>met him. He's been on our show a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's going to come back with what it was

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<v Speaker 2>like during the last kind of crazy hecnic couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks in Israel as a lot of rockets were flying

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<v Speaker 2>and things were occurring, and the world was heating up

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<v Speaker 2>over there. But let's get first off to the night

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<v Speaker 2>side news update. Our first guest brings us news of

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<v Speaker 2>the election of the first ever dog mayor in the

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<v Speaker 2>Seaport District of Boston. I want to introduce Claire Kilcullins.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the associate director of Culture and Experience at WS Development. Claire,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome tonight's side.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited to talk about a bunch of dogs, the

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<v Speaker 4>best topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I love dogs too. You have a bark

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<v Speaker 2>the vote coming up, and how how a buzz with

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<v Speaker 2>excitement the residents of the Seaport district over this this

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<v Speaker 2>very important election. Perhaps not as important as November fifth

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<v Speaker 2>in the scheme of big things, but certainly from the

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<v Speaker 2>from the seaports perspective, this is a very critical choice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, certainly not as important, but it's definitely gotten people excited.

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<v Speaker 4>We had one hundred and eighty one dogs entered in

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<v Speaker 4>the first round and we're down to five.

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<v Speaker 3>Now for those of your primary.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you how did you You had one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty five dogs, How did you whittle that down

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<v Speaker 2>to five. Did you have a primary?

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<v Speaker 3>We had?

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<v Speaker 4>We have the public vote, So in the first round

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<v Speaker 4>we had over forty thousand votes, and we've got until

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<v Speaker 4>the thirtieth in this next pooch primary round, and we've

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<v Speaker 4>already gotten forty thousand. So it's it's certainly been been

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<v Speaker 4>really exciting to see this many people pay attention and really.

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<v Speaker 2>Well ask I got to ask this, where are those

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<v Speaker 2>votes coming from? And is this Hey to put it

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<v Speaker 2>this way, but forty thousand votes, it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of votes. How did you collect the votes? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you have I guess you know, ballot boxes and a

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<v Speaker 2>number of the businesses down in the seaport, And then

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, gee, you should you should run I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Comal Wealth of Massachusetts election. If you could do

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<v Speaker 2>a pooch primary with that many votes, I'd put you

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of elections in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 4>No one gets people out to vote more than a

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<v Speaker 4>cute dog. So the first we've run everything through our

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<v Speaker 4>website Boston Sport dot xyz. So if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure to vote, you have until the thirtieth. In

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<v Speaker 4>the first round, we let people vote as much as

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<v Speaker 4>they want and then we're tightening it up for this round,

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<v Speaker 4>so you can go, okay, we've got great coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now there were no lawsuits here from the

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<v Speaker 2>dogs who were eked out. There was no concern about

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<v Speaker 2>multiple votes. I could vote us early and often as

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<v Speaker 2>you want. Sound like a Chicago primer.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a fun neighborhood event. So it's really been

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<v Speaker 4>amazing scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, I trust me, I'm not treating it like the

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<v Speaker 2>presidential election. This is only a mayoral election.

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<v Speaker 3>Only only a yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, there cases filed, no challenges to the outcome

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<v Speaker 2>filed by any of the the unsuccessful dogs or their

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<v Speaker 2>unsuccessful owners. So you have five dogs in the final uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and we won't identify all of them by name, but

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<v Speaker 2>you have a five year old adventure loving doodle love doodles.

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<v Speaker 2>You an eight and a half month old Golden Retriever puppy.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you that that's gonna he's that? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that he or she?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure that's a het. Yeah, he's a classic American.

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<v Speaker 2>Golden to an eighteen month old Golden doodle that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a good one to a year old Golden Retriever.

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<v Speaker 2>So you may have the Golden retriever vote split. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a factor that I hope people have taken into into account.

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<v Speaker 2>A one year old you you also have a two

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<v Speaker 2>year old Malta pool. This is great.

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<v Speaker 3>The only towld dog of a bunch, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The oldest dog a great. Yeah, the oldest dog of

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<v Speaker 2>the bunch in human years, I guess is fourteen when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it. So how can anyone and so

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<v Speaker 2>this is not there's no you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a resident of the seaport now, So we.

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<v Speaker 3>Have now knocked about.

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<v Speaker 2>To cast a vote because I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>dog lovers in my audience don't love to cast a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of vote or two.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so they can go to Boston Seaport dot x

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<v Speaker 4>y z and vote online. And the polls are open

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<v Speaker 4>until the thirtieth. So we'd love to see your vote

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<v Speaker 4>to let you pick the first inaugural dog mayor of

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<v Speaker 4>the seaport.

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<v Speaker 3>It's super exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>So Boston Seaport dot x y Z slash dog right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll that'll get you there for sure. You also can

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<v Speaker 2>find pictures of each of these wonderful looking dogs at

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<v Speaker 2>that website. I assume not that not that people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to vote just on the looks of the dog.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure there's going to be some other

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<v Speaker 2>considerations involved here.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, in election for dog mayor just voting on cuteness,

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<v Speaker 4>it makes sense to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe if we could get some cute presidential candidates

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<v Speaker 2>that might that might make it make it a little easier. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is fine, Yeah, how did you come up with

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<v Speaker 2>this idea? And what's the genesis of the idea? I

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<v Speaker 2>think Look, I would vote for a dog from mayor

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<v Speaker 2>in most cities and Massachusetts if I had a chance,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you. I mean, the dogs would

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<v Speaker 2>do less harm than a lot of the politicians. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's my own personal bias. How did you how did

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<v Speaker 2>you come up with this idea and put it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in action.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if you've ever been to the seaport, you'll see

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<v Speaker 4>dogs everywhere. They're a huge part of the community. There's

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<v Speaker 4>practically a line outside the dog store Polka.

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<v Speaker 5>Dog every day.

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<v Speaker 4>So we just really wanted to embrace that and give

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<v Speaker 4>the neighborhood a four leg and mascot.

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<v Speaker 2>No I have been to the seaport. The seaport For

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<v Speaker 2>those who haven't been is an amazing place in terms

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<v Speaker 2>to both Mayor Menino and Mayor Walsh. Mayor Menino, I

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<v Speaker 2>think who really had the idea of turning those of

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<v Speaker 2>us who are old enough and have been around long enough.

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<v Speaker 2>The seaport used to be just a bunch of empty

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<v Speaker 2>parking lots. I don't know if you're that old or

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<v Speaker 2>been here that long clear, but before and after pictures

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<v Speaker 2>of the seaport are just amazing. And Marty Walsh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>basically built the seaport on the idea of Mayor Menino.

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<v Speaker 2>So two great mayors have you know, added an entire

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood to Boston right on the water. Absolutely beautiful. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you're with a company called WS Development.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume that you folks are very much involved in

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<v Speaker 2>that construction process over time.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, a lot of the construction and a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the community building too. So we're hoping the dog Mayor

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<v Speaker 4>isn't afraid of crowds, because we love to have him

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<v Speaker 4>at the tree lighting that we have the holiday market

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<v Speaker 4>and all the other neighborhood events.

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<v Speaker 2>Well sure, I mean, look, there are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>some duties. It's not just all fun and games. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>any mayor are going to have to get him around

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<v Speaker 2>to some meet and greets and he has to know

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<v Speaker 2>people in the neighborhood. And I think it's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for joining us tonight. Again, let me

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<v Speaker 2>give people an opportunity. We're going to get some votes

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<v Speaker 2>in here Boston Sport dot xyz slash bark the Vote

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four. Great job, Claire appreciated. This should be

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<v Speaker 2>a dog mayor for every neighborhood in Boston, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to start a trend. So congratulations for making

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<v Speaker 2>outside the box great. Great job.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much, Claire Kill Colin.

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<v Speaker 2>The associate director of Culture and Experience, And what is

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<v Speaker 2>more cultural than a dog at WS Development. When you're

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<v Speaker 2>down the seaport, you'll be able to say sometime later

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<v Speaker 2>this month that there's a dog mayor. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>community will be well served when we come back. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about the loss of manufacturing jobs in

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<v Speaker 2>of all places, Massachusetts. We got some work to do

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<v Speaker 2>and We're going to talk with Steph Sallas and Axios

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<v Speaker 2>Boston reporter right after this break. My name is Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to welcome Axio's Boston reporter Steph Solice. Steph, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to night Time. How are you?

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you very much, I'm good. How are you? Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent? One of my producers noticed the story that you wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tough story. Basically, it's saying that across the

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<v Speaker 2>country in many areas, not uniformally, but in many areas,

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<v Speaker 2>manufacturing jobs are back, except in states like Massachusetts. When

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<v Speaker 2>you say states like Massachusetts, are you talking about states

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<v Speaker 2>here in the northeast or what do you mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what other states do you group in the Massachusetts category

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<v Speaker 2>that are falling behind and catching up on manufacturing jobs.

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<v Speaker 6>Merrily, higher cost states that are either in the Northeast

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<v Speaker 6>or certain other pockets. You've got some geographical outliers, parts

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<v Speaker 6>of the Roust Belt. You've got Washington State and Oregon, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 6>but really like a lot of states where you have

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<v Speaker 6>a higher cost of living or a hard time getting workers.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's where they're seeing the biggest hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, I guess your report is based on analysis

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<v Speaker 2>of government data from an organization called the Economic Innovation

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<v Speaker 2>Group EIG. Is that correct? It's a centrist think tank.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is not a group that has a political

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<v Speaker 2>bias and is trying to take numbers and crunch him

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<v Speaker 2>in such a way that makes one party or the

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<v Speaker 2>other party look good. This is a this is a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty objective analysis. It sounds to me like what your

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<v Speaker 2>report is telling us.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And there's a lot of good news in that

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<v Speaker 6>report for manufacturing as a whole.

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<v Speaker 7>They did note that this is the.

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<v Speaker 6>First time in fifty years that the national manufacturing industry

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<v Speaker 6>has recovered all the jobs lost during a recession. They've

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<v Speaker 6>also noted nationally, at least overall, that manufacturing jobs have

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<v Speaker 6>rebounded to pre pandemic levels, you know, going into that

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<v Speaker 6>more detail. The problem is, as you mentioned earlier, it's

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<v Speaker 6>not uniform, and so you have just a handful of

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<v Speaker 6>states that account for the majority of the job growth.

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<v Speaker 6>In Massachusetts is definitely not one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, essentially, I think you identified five states that accounts

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<v Speaker 2>for two thirds of the job growth at Texas, Florida, Georgia, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>and Utah and those are some you know, classic sun

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<v Speaker 2>belt states. I can't describe any better than that. Massachusetts, though,

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<v Speaker 2>has lost between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty three seven

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<v Speaker 2>thousand manufacturing jobs. This is a problem because when you

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<v Speaker 2>start losing manufacturing jobs, you lose businesses. It's an indication

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<v Speaker 2>that you're losing businesses, and eventually you lose population, which

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<v Speaker 2>takes away every ten years they readjust the number of

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<v Speaker 2>seats in Congress, not the Senate seats, but the House seats.

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<v Speaker 2>What can Massachusetts do to turn this around? Or does

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<v Speaker 2>your article does your analysis get to that what can

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<v Speaker 2>we do to make this better?

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<v Speaker 6>So the state is doing a couple of things, so

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<v Speaker 6>are business organizations. Just starting with the Healing administration, they

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<v Speaker 6>are issuing grants, they're really focusing on building talent pipelines

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<v Speaker 6>and starting at the middle and high school level. And

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<v Speaker 6>the reason that's important in because you if you wait

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<v Speaker 6>until people are adult age, they're going to have much

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<v Speaker 6>more time they need to spend either going to get

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<v Speaker 6>certain apprenticeships or other training when they're doing it right

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<v Speaker 6>out of high school. Another thing that's worth keeping in mind,

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of nuances here.

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<v Speaker 2>Interrupted for a second. I'm assuming when you say building

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<v Speaker 2>pipelines for school children, but you're talking about building schools

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<v Speaker 2>that are voke tech oriented schools for kids who may

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<v Speaker 2>not be people who are looking forward to going to

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<v Speaker 2>college and studying sociology but like to work with their hands,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, have an aptitude and mechanical aptitude that

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<v Speaker 2>can actually provide people with a great career and a

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<v Speaker 2>great lifetime income. Am I right or wrong? Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>But it's actually a mix. Yes, So yes, it could

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<v Speaker 6>include mechanics, it could include people going into entry level jobs,

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<v Speaker 6>but it also includes more mathematically and science and clined

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<v Speaker 6>students who want to go into robotics, into engineering, into

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<v Speaker 6>creating semiconductors, three D printing things of that sort, and

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<v Speaker 6>building jobs that require sometimes a certificate, sometimes a college

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<v Speaker 6>degree that you can already start getting in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Well, you know the thing is that one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things I have learned over my lifetime is

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<v Speaker 2>that I wish I had I went to a more

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<v Speaker 2>classical high school, Boston Latin School, which was a great school,

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<v Speaker 2>went to college and to law school, and obviously have

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<v Speaker 2>worked worked as a with my mind and my voice

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<v Speaker 2>doing interviews for a long time in television and radio.

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<v Speaker 2>But tell you, when you need a plumber, when you

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<v Speaker 2>need an electrician, when you need h h Vac person

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<v Speaker 2>and a conditioning has gone out in the summertime, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to pay through the nose. Those are great jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think for a long time in this country,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't respect those jobs, and we look down on

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<v Speaker 2>those people who were doing those jobs. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's for us to all of us to get a

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<v Speaker 2>real attitude adjustment and realize how valuable the auto mechanic

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<v Speaker 2>is in your life. Because if the auto mechanic doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>put your car back on the road. You don't go

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<v Speaker 2>to work, and I have learned that over my lifetime,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just wish the politicians would understand that a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better. And maybe your article in Axios Boston

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<v Speaker 2>will shake some people up and make them look at

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<v Speaker 2>the world a little differently. I really appreciate this article.

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<v Speaker 2>It was well written, well researched. We need more more

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<v Speaker 2>stories like this and love to have you back as

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<v Speaker 2>you continue develop your career as a writer and as

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<v Speaker 2>an analyst. I really appreciate you taking the time tonight, Steph.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Steph Salise, Axio's Boston reporter.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks Dan, talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope we came back on a talk with Norfolk

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<v Speaker 2>Dounty Sheriff Patrick McDermott. He's got a couple of programs

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<v Speaker 2>going on to help veterans. Okay again, some veterans sadly

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<v Speaker 2>end up in the criminal justice system. There are veterans projects,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly one in which that I'm someone involved within Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>in the state of Minnesota, to try to make give

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<v Speaker 2>bret veterans not necessarily a break, but allow them to

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<v Speaker 2>be seen a little differently. And this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>not that program, but This is another program that Sheriff

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick McDonough of Norfolk County will explain to us on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of the break right after the news

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour Here on a Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>night on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to welcome Norfolk County Sheriff Patrick McDermott.

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<v Speaker 2>Norfolk County Sheriff McDermott, how are you tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing fantastic, Dan, Thanks for having me back again.

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<v Speaker 5>Appreciate it well.

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<v Speaker 2>Love to have you back whenever. And I know that

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<v Speaker 2>you have a soft spot in your heart for our veterans,

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<v Speaker 2>our heroes who have come home, and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever you can along with I guess Braintreem mayor

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Joyce amongst others. Tell us what's happening on Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>November ninth, that's what four days after the election, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about a little over two weeks away. You

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<v Speaker 2>have a program called House to House for Heroes. Tell

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Dan, this is something near and dear to my

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<v Speaker 5>heart as the son of a World War two veteran

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<v Speaker 5>and growing up in a household that really put veterans

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<v Speaker 5>on a pedestal and making sure that Veterans Day was

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<v Speaker 5>always celebrated in my household and then threw up my family.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is a way for me and my staff,

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<v Speaker 5>as well as hundreds of volunteers to do some veterans outreach.

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<v Speaker 5>On Saturday, November ninth in Braintree, we rolled this program

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<v Speaker 5>out in Quinsy to a rounding success. Over three thousand

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<v Speaker 5>veteran households were visited by volunteers and so we're rolling

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<v Speaker 5>this out consistently throughout Norfolk County and Braintree is our

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<v Speaker 5>next opportunity. So on that Saturday, November ninth, we have

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<v Speaker 5>thirteen hundred Braintree veterans that we want to share some

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<v Speaker 5>vital information about important resources and especially the new benefits

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<v Speaker 5>that are available to veterans and things sparring, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>going from health benefits, housing benefits, mental health counseling. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously financial benefits that are available and especially those that

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<v Speaker 5>just recently came online with the signing of the Heroes

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<v Speaker 5>Act by the Heally Driscoll administration of the Legislature this

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<v Speaker 5>past August. So we're going to be rolling out a

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<v Speaker 5>packet of information. We're going to go door to door

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<v Speaker 5>to all the households in Braintree for these veterans who

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<v Speaker 5>have served and given us so much of their service

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<v Speaker 5>over the course of their career, in their life, and

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<v Speaker 5>this is just a small token of our appreciation to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure they know of the services that they can

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<v Speaker 5>avail them to benefit their life and moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, have you compiled the list? Do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>houses you're hitting or are you hitting every house in

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<v Speaker 2>the community to try to find veterans. Veterans traditionally have

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<v Speaker 2>not been people. You know. They have done their time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, done their service. They come home and they

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<v Speaker 2>tend most tend to melt into the community and live

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<v Speaker 2>a good in productive life like our dad did as

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<v Speaker 2>a World War Two veteran. My dad was also a

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two veteran. So when you talk about Veterans

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<v Speaker 2>Day in your home, it was the same way in

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<v Speaker 2>our home growing up. But so my question is there

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<v Speaker 2>were some veterans who you almost got to go and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>look there's some help here for you, and we're not

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<v Speaker 2>giving you anything.

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<v Speaker 5>You've earned this, they've earned it, and we've and we've

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<v Speaker 5>been able to partner with the local Veterans Service officers

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<v Speaker 5>in every town, and brain Tree has been very cooperative.

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<v Speaker 5>We've also got a lot of help from the town

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<v Speaker 5>clerk through the voting roles. A lot of times people

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<v Speaker 5>will identify as a veteran through the census documents, so

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<v Speaker 5>we've been able to compile those lists through public records

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<v Speaker 5>as well as through voluntary addresses that have been given

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<v Speaker 5>to us from the veterans themselves. So and we want

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<v Speaker 5>to make sure we reach everybody, so certainly our list

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<v Speaker 5>is not exhaustive. And so if anybody hears this message

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<v Speaker 5>and would like a packet delivered to them, they can

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<v Speaker 5>contact their local Veterans Service agent in their town, and

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<v Speaker 5>this particular on town of brain Tree, and we'll make

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<v Speaker 5>sure they get a packet out to them. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 5>veterans tend to come back from their service and do

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<v Speaker 5>kind of melt right into the community, and it's very

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<v Speaker 5>rare we can get them to talk or tell stories,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's why I make a point to make my

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<v Speaker 5>rounds around to all the local dav halls the American

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<v Speaker 5>legions to really try to get the word out about

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<v Speaker 5>some of the benefits that these veterans have earned and

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<v Speaker 5>they deserve to hear about them, and a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 5>especially when we roll this out in Quinsy, they were

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<v Speaker 5>very appreciative and the big thing was a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>these programs they didn't know about, so we want to

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<v Speaker 2>Now, do you need more people on November ninth? And

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<v Speaker 2>do you have to live in Braintreet to be a volunteer?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you need some more help? What can we do

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<v Speaker 5>We welcome all volunteers and we find that the volunteers

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<v Speaker 5>get so much out of this. So we've reached out

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<v Speaker 5>to the local community organizations and Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, sports groups. But every citizen is invited to

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<v Speaker 5>come to Braintree to participate in this and so we

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<v Speaker 5>have an online sign up. You can actually find that

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<v Speaker 5>sign up on all of our social media Facebook, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 5>or x formerly known as Twitter, and our handle for

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<v Speaker 5>all of those is at Norfolk Sheriff or if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to send us an email, you can send us

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<v Speaker 5>an email at info at Norfolk SHERIFFMA dot org and

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<v Speaker 5>we will send you a link that you register for

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<v Speaker 5>that event. So all volunteers are welcome. We're inviting veterans

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<v Speaker 5>and the volunteers back to our brain Republic Safety campus

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<v Speaker 5>after the event for a little cookout and celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. I wish you the best of luck. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a rain or shine event? Obviously as we get

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<v Speaker 2>into November, you know you might just have the bad

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<v Speaker 2>luck of having a rainy weekend. Uh is this on?

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<v Speaker 2>This like a football game? Is not a baseball game?

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<v Speaker 2>But they get canceled or does it go?

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<v Speaker 5>No doubt about it. We take our lessons from our veterans.

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<v Speaker 5>You get up and you do the job. Rain or shine, snow,

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<v Speaker 5>sleep or hopefully we're praying for a little sunshine that day.

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<v Speaker 5>But yes, this event goes on no matter what the

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<v Speaker 5>weather circumstances are.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. How's everything going down at your House of Correction? There?

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<v Speaker 2>You got the big one right in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>one twenty eighth, the Norfolk House of.

447
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<v Speaker 5>Correction, the only prison in the country that is located

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<v Speaker 5>in the middle of federal highway system. So but everything

449
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<v Speaker 5>has gone pretty well. I've been sheriff now for four

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<v Speaker 5>years since COVID, our numbers have dropped, which is generally

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<v Speaker 5>a good thing. I think that, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 5>Massachusetts has been kind of on the forefront of decarceration

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<v Speaker 5>and focusing on you know, mental health, counseling, substance use

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<v Speaker 5>disorder issues. So for those that are incarcerated right now,

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<v Speaker 5>we're dealing with a lot of tough issues. But my focus,

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<v Speaker 5>at least with my administration and all of the Massachusetts

457
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<v Speaker 5>sheriffs are on the cutting edge of the concept of

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<v Speaker 5>re entry begins on day one, and that includes all

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<v Speaker 5>of our justice involved individuals. And you know, as we

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<v Speaker 5>speak about veterans, veterans also fall sadly into the criminal

461
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<v Speaker 5>justice system, and with the Trial court having their Veterans Court,

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<v Speaker 5>we participate with the trial court, and we also have

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<v Speaker 5>programs in the House of Correction that are geared towards

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<v Speaker 5>veterans and their re entry back into the community after

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<v Speaker 5>they've done their sentence. So we really focus on on

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<v Speaker 5>the better things that people have to offer, and we

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<v Speaker 5>hope that, you know, as we see our programs unfold,

468
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<v Speaker 5>that we'll have a lot of success. And the success

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<v Speaker 5>for us is a reduction in the recidivism rate people

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<v Speaker 5>coming circling back through the criminal justice system.

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<v Speaker 2>I do some work with a couple of friends of

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<v Speaker 2>mine out in Minnesota who are involved in their legal community.

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota and Nebraska have worked with a model veterans court program.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the Veterans Defense Project. It essentially basically sets

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<v Speaker 2>up a court where if a veteran messes up, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some consideration given to the circumstances. This model legislation which

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<v Speaker 2>passed in Nebraska. It hasn't passed here, but hopefully over

478
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<v Speaker 2>time we'll get this back here so that all veterans

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<v Speaker 2>across the country will be treated fairly and given some

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<v Speaker 2>consideration for the service and what they might have been

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<v Speaker 2>subjected to, not only while they're in your custody, but

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<v Speaker 2>as they enter into the criminal justice system. Not to

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<v Speaker 2>whitewash things at all, but basically everybody need to understand

484
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<v Speaker 2>that veterans of special people, and some of them have

485
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<v Speaker 2>gone through things that none of us will imagine or

486
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<v Speaker 2>experience in our lifetime. So, as a former US Attorney

487
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<v Speaker 2>assistant US attorney, a USA out in Minneapolis has introduced

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<v Speaker 2>me to the program, and I can if you're interested,

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<v Speaker 2>I can put you in touch with them as well,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's something it would be great appealing to.

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<v Speaker 5>You, Okay, and I I have the honor of service

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<v Speaker 5>the president elect of the Massachusetts Sheriff's Association. Our executive

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<v Speaker 5>director is the former director out in Minnesota. So it

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<v Speaker 5>would be fitting that we move forward and.

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<v Speaker 2>Mentioned mentioned to you your pal, Hank Say he's assistant US.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't assistant US attorney, He's a law profit out there

497
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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota. Hank Shehay. Pretty easy to remember and a

498
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<v Speaker 2>great and a great Yay Norfolk.

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<v Speaker 5>County Sheriff to carry that in the legislative session.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, say hi to my pal and former colleague. You're

501
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<v Speaker 2>a pr guy, Peter Wilson. You've got a good guy there.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk soon.

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<v Speaker 5>You got it, absolutely, Thanks Dan, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much, Talk you soon. All Right, we've got

505
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<v Speaker 2>one more interview coming up, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about hospice, home Care Alliance of Massachusetts and Medicare. Medicare

507
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>enrollment is now open, so you really want to listen,

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<v Speaker 2>and we may bring this next guest back at some

509
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<v Speaker 2>point later on this month. Answer your Medicare questions, but

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<v Speaker 2>stick with us. We'll get you. We'll get you some

511
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<v Speaker 2>information that you very well might need, and then we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to a couple of topics. At least

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk about question three in the ballot

514
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<v Speaker 2>about ride SHARE's drive right share driver's ability to unionize.

515
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<v Speaker 2>And we're also going to talk with a Massachusetts attorney

516
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<v Speaker 2>just back from Israel. He's going to tell us what's

517
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<v Speaker 2>going on on the ground over there as that in

518
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<v Speaker 2>that fighting intensifies. Back on night Side right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Way Live from the Window World,

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Sight Studios, Many Besy New Twvidio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think most of you know that the Medicare

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<v Speaker 2>open enrollment period has kicked off on October fifteenth, or

523
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<v Speaker 2>about eight days into that. Into that process with me

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<v Speaker 2>is Renee mckinnis. She's the chair of the Home Care

525
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<v Speaker 2>Alliance of Massachusetts as well as the CEO of the

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<v Speaker 2>nonprofit envy NA and Hospice. So let's first of all, Renee,

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<v Speaker 2>let's start off with an explanation. Explanation of what is

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<v Speaker 2>the Homecare Alliance of Massachusetts. And then I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know what envy NA and Hospice does tell us about

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<v Speaker 2>Home Care Alliance Massachusetts. Who do they serve? Who do

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<v Speaker 2>you say?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely so, that's an association that serves the state of

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<v Speaker 7>Massachusetts for all many home care and hospice organizations, but

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<v Speaker 7>also private duty home care, so private care. Really they're

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<v Speaker 7>really an advocacy group, an association that connects us.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a business association.

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<v Speaker 7>I assume it's you know, it's yes, it is. It's

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<v Speaker 7>a non yep, it is. And you know they work

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<v Speaker 7>very closely with the state House and the legislators and

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<v Speaker 7>present bills and help to advocate for home care and

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<v Speaker 7>hospice organizations.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and what is NVNA that acronym. I'm not familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with that acronym. It's ENVY DNA in hospice. What does

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<v Speaker 2>that stand for?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>Not many people are So it's nor Well Visiting Yourse

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<v Speaker 7>Association in hospice. But we do cover twenty seven towns,

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<v Speaker 7>so it's not just normal south of Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, Now, medicare open enrollment. What do people need

551
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<v Speaker 2>to know? We know first of all that it is

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<v Speaker 2>already underway. If you are a medical if you're on

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<v Speaker 2>one of these programs, do you have to sign up

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<v Speaker 2>again every year? Or is it? Is it less complicated

555
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<v Speaker 2>than that?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>You know what it really isn't I love?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I here you go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>It's super complicated actually, And so people get very confused,

560
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<v Speaker 7>and we'd like to I'm just trying to educate people

561
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<v Speaker 7>truly to to have their options and to decide for themselves.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not telling people what to decide, but there are

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<v Speaker 7>differences between Medicare and Medicare advantage or you know, many

564
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<v Speaker 7>people call it many different things, right, so they'll talk

565
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<v Speaker 7>about Medicare with a supplement plan or Medicare.

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<v Speaker 2>Advance of some words we can't use on the radio.

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<v Speaker 7>Right exactly exactly, So you know, it really important for us,

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<v Speaker 7>really in my association Home Care Alliance, but also for

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<v Speaker 7>all my colleagues out there across the nation, is that

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<v Speaker 7>it's a real struggle working with Medicare advantage. So for

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<v Speaker 7>patients that are signing up for these plans, they need

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<v Speaker 7>to understand that they may have access to care concerns,

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<v Speaker 7>so particular when they travel. But many organizations are not

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<v Speaker 7>taking some of these plans because the reimbursement for home

575
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 7>health can be fifty to sixty percent below our direct cost.

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<v Speaker 7>Now does the consumer know or understand that, No, But

577
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<v Speaker 7>what they need to know is that could be access

578
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<v Speaker 7>to care concerns. So when they leave the hospital they

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<v Speaker 7>want to go to a particular rehab they want to

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<v Speaker 7>go to a particular skilled nursing facility for rehab or

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<v Speaker 7>a home care. They may have limited access depending on

582
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<v Speaker 7>the network and which they're in and which physicians, which hospitals,

583
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<v Speaker 7>which home cares will take their insurance. Prior authorizations are

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<v Speaker 7>very cumbersome and they can delay you in the hospital

585
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<v Speaker 7>waiting for a post acute setting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what's frustrating. What is frustrating about this

587
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<v Speaker 2>is Medicare is a program that people paid into during

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<v Speaker 2>their life span.

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<v Speaker 7>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Medicaid is different, okay, But Medicare is a program that

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<v Speaker 2>people paid into and the government sold it as a

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<v Speaker 2>program as something that people can rely on. And it

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<v Speaker 2>seems to me that there's that some of the circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>have changed so that it makes it more difficult one

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<v Speaker 2>for people to understand it and to access the program.

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<v Speaker 2>And it sounds like you're trying to clarify that for people,

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<v Speaker 2>which which my hat's off to you on that one.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, and I think that you know, when you're looking

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<v Speaker 7>at these programs, really understand what you're signing up for.

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<v Speaker 7>And it may look cheaper, the monthly premium may look

601
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<v Speaker 7>better to you, and it probably is but when you

602
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<v Speaker 7>really need care, you may want to have choice, right,

603
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:49.720
<v Speaker 7>so choice of your specialty position, choice of where you

604
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<v Speaker 7>want to go for surgery, choice of where you want

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<v Speaker 7>to go for rehab, and you may not have that

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<v Speaker 7>access or option, so it does limit your choice. You

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<v Speaker 7>can also have a lot of out of pocket costs

608
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<v Speaker 7>if you're out of network, So if you choose to

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<v Speaker 7>go out of network. So, Dan, we've gotten many calls

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<v Speaker 7>at my organization and we started this program, a navigator

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<v Speaker 7>program really to help people navigate healthcare in general. And

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<v Speaker 7>we get a lot of calls from people I don't

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<v Speaker 7>understand I can't go to this particular rehab. They tell

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<v Speaker 7>me I have to go there, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 7>to go there, and you know, we try to educate

616
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<v Speaker 7>them and we say, you know, what is your insurance, Well,

617
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 7>it's a Medicare advantage plan and there's restrictions around that.

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<v Speaker 7>But you have to wait for another year until open

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<v Speaker 7>enrollment to switch back to Medicare with a supplemental plan.

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<v Speaker 7>And yes, the premiums are more expensive monthly, but you

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<v Speaker 7>really need to weigh out the cost benefit and really

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<v Speaker 7>educate yourself before you sign out.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so frustrating. It's so frustrating to me that

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<v Speaker 2>programs like this, which people paid for, paid for, they

625
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<v Speaker 2>have to now almost big and negotiate to get the

626
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 2>government said, hey, you sign up this program. I remember

627
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>when Medicaid was sold. And conversely, don't want to put

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<v Speaker 2>you in the middle of a political debate here. But conversely,

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<v Speaker 2>we got people coming across the border who are taking

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<v Speaker 2>care of with hotel rooms, meals, ebt cards, whatever you want.

631
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<v Speaker 2>And yet you know, older Americans who were looking for

632
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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit of help are frustrated and denied

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<v Speaker 2>that help, and it is infuriating. It's absolutely infuriating.

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<v Speaker 7>The good news is that Medicare it started to recognize

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<v Speaker 7>that because they're giving their Medicare dollars to a managed

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<v Speaker 7>care plan, that actually it's not saving Medicare money, right,

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<v Speaker 7>So it's not saving the government money and actually possibly

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<v Speaker 7>people aren't getting the access to care they need. So

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<v Speaker 7>some of these plans are backing down because their margins

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<v Speaker 7>aren't what they were. Because Medicare is really recognizing an

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<v Speaker 7>understanding it really has to be about the patient right

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<v Speaker 7>and the care. So it has to be patient centered

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<v Speaker 7>care and it can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Be of course, it should be the patient. How can

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<v Speaker 2>people get in touch with you to get a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a better understanding. Is there a website we

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<v Speaker 2>can send people to. What is it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yep, NVNA dot org and my they can email me

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<v Speaker 7>directly at our MCI n ees at ENVNA dot org.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's my email. Happy to answer any questions or

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<v Speaker 7>walk them through anything. I'm not, as I said, Dan,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not telling people what to choose. I'm just hoping

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<v Speaker 7>that eruptions.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a great service you're performing. And again, the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest website, folks is n v NA simple as that

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<v Speaker 2>stands for No Well Visiting Nurses Association so n b

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<v Speaker 2>n A. But it serves five thousand people in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven self, so commune. And if you're not in the

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<v Speaker 2>South Shore, hopefully you can find a similar type group

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<v Speaker 2>in your in your area. Renee, thank you very much

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<v Speaker 2>for what you do.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's well thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime we can give you some help, you let us know.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I appreciate it. Thank you very welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks. Okay. So that takes her a nightside news update

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<v Speaker 2>coming up on the other side, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>take another shot in Massachusetts ballot question three, and we

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<v Speaker 2>will talk with Roxanna Rivera, she's coach here of the

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and Three coalition. We spoke with someone last night

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<v Speaker 2>who was no. One the question, and feel free you

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<v Speaker 2>can ask whatever questions you want. Later, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what is going on in Israel from someone

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<v Speaker 2>who was in the ground there earlier this month for

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<v Speaker 2>an extended period of time. Boston attorney Jason Greenburg back

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside right after this