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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's keep rolling here. We are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the incident on Saturday night at the Chick fil A

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant in Copley Square, in the shadow of the Trinity Church,

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<v Speaker 1>across the street from the Boston Public Library, looking out

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<v Speaker 1>on Copley Plaza itself. In an individual allegedly wielding a

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<v Speaker 1>knife chased a couple of people who sought I guess

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<v Speaker 1>shelter in the Chick fil A. According to the news

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<v Speaker 1>reports I saw tonight on Channel four and Channel five,

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<v Speaker 1>and that individual was confronted by a Boston police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>The Boston police officer told the individual to drop the knife,

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<v Speaker 1>identified himself as a police officer. According to reports, the

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<v Speaker 1>individual did not drop the knife. Have no idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to assume that that he did something which threatened

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<v Speaker 1>someone else or the police officer himself, and the police

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<v Speaker 1>officer fired and the individuals pronounced that at a hospital. Later.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor WU of the City of Boston did not in

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<v Speaker 1>any way, shape or form disappoint her progressive base. When

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<v Speaker 1>this is cut number forty one, this is the short

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<v Speaker 1>version of it. Actually, I'm going to be fair to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mayor here, let's use the cut forty one a

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who are just joining us. Her

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<v Speaker 1>concern was not initially the mental health of the police

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<v Speaker 1>officer the safety of the people whose lives might have

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<v Speaker 1>been saved. She focused on condolences to the family of

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<v Speaker 1>the knife wielder. This has cut forty one a rub.

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<v Speaker 3>My convolences and all of our thoughts are with the

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<v Speaker 3>family of the individual whose life's been lost. And I

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<v Speaker 3>am also thinking of all the people who are impacted

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<v Speaker 3>here today in one of the busier parts of the

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<v Speaker 3>city with this tragedy. Glad that the officer is safe,

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<v Speaker 3>and very grateful for a quick response from all of

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<v Speaker 3>our first responders. Here again, I'm such an active part

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<v Speaker 3>of Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>Grateful for the response of the first responders. Well yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what about grateful for the quick actions of the police

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<v Speaker 1>officer that may have saved lives. Now again the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>is wired where her first condolences are going to the

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<v Speaker 1>knife wielder. Channel five tonight was reporting that this guy

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<v Speaker 1>had a not a serious criminal record, but a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>lengthy criminal in the sense that he robbed a woman

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<v Speaker 1>at night point, allegedly, according to court documents, that Channel

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<v Speaker 1>five was referring to outside of an MBTA station. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was on four or five.

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<v Speaker 1>His girlfriend of ten years said he was a wonderful guy,

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<v Speaker 1>though apparently at one point she took out a restraining

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<v Speaker 1>order against him. On and on and on it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't stop. I you know again, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to be nice people. I don't celebrate the death of anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but that police officer was put in a position that

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<v Speaker 1>he had to defend other people. And why is the

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<v Speaker 1>condolences to the family of the victim. The family of

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<v Speaker 1>the victim, to their credit, on one of the stations tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>said there that they were praying for the family of

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<v Speaker 1>the police officer. Now that's a good family from which

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<v Speaker 1>this guy gave came. In my opinion, for them to

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<v Speaker 1>say that, I probably would not have had as charitable

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<v Speaker 1>response if it was me. Back to the phones, we go.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go to dot and Medford Dot. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have strong opinions on this. Go ahead, Dot.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Well you're definitely on the right side.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just unbelievable that she does not have a clue.

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<v Speaker 4>She doesn't want to have a clue. Because if she

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<v Speaker 4>had a clue, she would have appreciated that office. She

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't show any appreciation to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Lord would have upset her progressive base.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, she's pathetic. She's actually kind of stupid. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I imagine, Well, she gets home, the husband has plenty

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<v Speaker 4>to say about some of the stuff she pulls off.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we have no idea about that sort of conversation

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Dot. All I can do is just say

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't understand how someone who is in a

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<v Speaker 1>position where she and her family. I assume I might

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong here, but I'm going to go out on

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<v Speaker 1>a limb. Dot, I would bet that the mayor and

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<v Speaker 1>her family are guarded by Boston Police officers.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think I'm wrong on that?

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<v Speaker 4>Astely?

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<v Speaker 7>Are?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Now, I'm sure that the mayor of any major

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<v Speaker 1>city has some wacker doodles who will, you know, try

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<v Speaker 1>to approach the mayor with all sorts of and at

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<v Speaker 1>times they have to be kept at bay. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that sadly there there are people out there who

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<v Speaker 1>would do stupid things like calling up and issuing a threat,

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<v Speaker 1>and the mayor deserves to be protected, and the mayor's

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<v Speaker 1>family deserves. She is young child. But you would think

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<v Speaker 1>that the mayors above all would say, hey, look these

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<v Speaker 1>men and women of all backgrounds, straight, gay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>black and white, Asian, Hispanic. They've taken, you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>oath of office and part of that oath of officers

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<v Speaker 1>to protect her and her family. You would think that

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<v Speaker 1>they would be a level of appreciation.

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<v Speaker 4>But you would think so, you would.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so, so Dot you're telling me I'm not totally

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<v Speaker 1>insane to think that.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, you're absolutely right. I mean, she really I

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<v Speaker 4>hope they do a good job on her down in Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's going to be an interesting Wednesday. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that. I'm sure. I'm sure we'll be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that one on Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, sure, Yeah. Maybe they'll smarten her up a little.

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<v Speaker 4>I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think what happens is that that

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<v Speaker 1>certain politicians kind of drink the kool aid. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are crazy politicians on the right too, who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of Marjorie Taylor Green and some of these

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<v Speaker 1>people have say some outrageous things. So it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the wack of doodles on the far left on the

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<v Speaker 1>progressive Democrats. I just think that there are people who

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<v Speaker 1>play to their base, and they're happy with their base

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<v Speaker 1>and realize that. And maybe it's because the base of

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<v Speaker 1>these two parties vote that that the Democratic base gets

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<v Speaker 1>out the Republican base and a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle choose not to vote. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's what they gotta do it, but I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope she smattens up a little bit. She's really pathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>We would hope banks do. I appreciate it, all right, soon,

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<v Speaker 1>good one, good night. Going to keep rolling here, Going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Pete in South Carolina. Hey, Pete, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 8>How are you, Hey, Dan? I'm fine. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>This story made, by the way, I hope you're not

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the fire areas?

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<v Speaker 8>No, no, no no, they are four hours north of me,

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<v Speaker 8>up by Myrtle Beach. I'm fine, but thank you for asking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, has this story about the shooting here? Made it?

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<v Speaker 1>Made it into the news?

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<v Speaker 8>Made I made it in And this is what I'm

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<v Speaker 8>going to throw something back at you that you always

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<v Speaker 8>say elections have consequences, and this is a consequence that

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<v Speaker 8>should come up when she's up for reelection. She's I've

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<v Speaker 8>listened to your cuts and I saw some of her

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<v Speaker 8>video on one of the TV stations I watched down here,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm sorry she's she came in from left field. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>and I feel bad for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Way out, way out over by the foul line in

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<v Speaker 1>left field, I think is where she plays.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's about it, but I feel sorry for the

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<v Speaker 8>police department because they took second fiddle to some guy

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<v Speaker 8>who was trying to hurt people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the police commissioner, the police commissioner who the mayor appointed,

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<v Speaker 1>according to press reports that have read, basically said kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll see that I didn't hear. Obviously, I don't get

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<v Speaker 8>that kind of stuff down here. But I just feel

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<v Speaker 8>sorry for the police officer. Uh took some of my thunder,

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<v Speaker 8>But that police offer has to live with that for

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<v Speaker 8>the rest of his life. And it's tragic, it really

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<v Speaker 8>is for him and his family because it, like you said,

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<v Speaker 8>the police officer identified himself, dropped a knife, didn't drop

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<v Speaker 8>the knife. Boom. Unfortunate things happened. But your mayor is

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<v Speaker 8>just terrible. I can't believe you would do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a whole bunch of those mayors around the country.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, I know that who seemed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have that same attitude. You know, it's like, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>make the assumption they were work from the assumption that

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<v Speaker 1>the police has to be a stereotype of Derek Chauvin,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're all the same. You know, it's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get I don't understand. And again, as I said

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<v Speaker 1>to Don, men and women, the bus police department guard rightfully.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mayor wound her family.

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<v Speaker 8>That's right. And look at the the the what you

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<v Speaker 8>will call it for protection that Pelosi gets out in

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<v Speaker 8>San Francisco and she's there, she's got her own little compound.

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<v Speaker 8>But anyway, I don't want to take up a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of your time because I'm an out of state caller,

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<v Speaker 8>but I just I can hear it in your voice.

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<v Speaker 8>You're really upset. And I don't know when she's up

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<v Speaker 8>for your elections. But they do have concerts this year,

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<v Speaker 8>this year, this year. I'll have to keep listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I would hope, I would hope. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the only candidate that I'm aware of that's a serious

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<v Speaker 1>childallenger to her right now is Josh Kraft, who's the

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<v Speaker 1>son of Patriots owner robber Craft.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh okay, okay, uh. Like I said, now that I

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<v Speaker 8>know what's going on, I'll pay a little bit more

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<v Speaker 8>attention and read the Globe when I can pull it

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<v Speaker 8>up online, and obviously listen to the night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you. You got you covered there, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks, thanks, appreciate it, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a great night. Get by all right, Pete

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<v Speaker 1>in South Carolina. We'll take a very quick break here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back with more phone calls. I got one

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<v Speaker 1>line at six one, seven, two four, ten thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>at six one, seven, nine, three thirty your reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>the shooting at a Chick fil A and Copley Square,

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who are listening out of town. Copley

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<v Speaker 1>Square is sort of the equivalent of Times Are Times Square.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not quite as glamorous, but it's really this the

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<v Speaker 1>core center of the commercial district here in Boston, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's in the shadow of Trinity Church. It's across

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<v Speaker 1>from the Boston Public Library, across from the Copley Plaza hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks out on Copley Plaza. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great part of the city. It's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of the Back Bay, which is really also the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of Boston, and the mayor's response to this to

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<v Speaker 1>me is unfathomable. Unfathomable. We'll be back on Nightside after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get back to the call. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Joe In. Joe you are next time Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Dan, thank you for taking my call. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 5>respectfully disagree with you on this, but we have our

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<v Speaker 5>opinions and that's why you let us call. Sure. My

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<v Speaker 5>friend and I from Brighton, we're talking about have you

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<v Speaker 5>heard of the burnet SD. It's a new product for

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<v Speaker 5>people that can if they're in a situation, they can

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<v Speaker 5>projectiles or tear gas, anything you want. I think you

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<v Speaker 5>think if he had used that or a taser, that

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the hold on Joe for a second. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what was the first item that you

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<v Speaker 5>Some sort of on all the news stations, the burner

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<v Speaker 5>SD launcher. Look it up. I think you'll find it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fast to me. What is a burner SD launcher?

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you explain that to me?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, It's a device. If people are attacked, they can shoot.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a weapon. It's considered not a weapon by

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<v Speaker 5>law enforcement. It's a pistol shape, but it uses projectiles

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<v Speaker 5>or tear gas and it works within fifty to sixty feet.

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<v Speaker 5>It can hurt you and put you down, but it won't.

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<v Speaker 1>So why don't we just disarm the police officers? This

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yes, And.

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we disarm all the police officers and give

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<v Speaker 1>them whatever this is SD? You said, what was it

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<v Speaker 5>What berner b y r NA SD.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't say we should disarm them, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I mean, if this guy hit the disarm, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy they shot would never have been been killed. Right?

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<v Speaker 5>What about if he used a taser? Could he have

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<v Speaker 5>taken him down that way? I don't like me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want the off duty police officers not

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<v Speaker 1>to carry weapons or not to have weapons, but to

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<v Speaker 5>No, they can carry weapons only if they need resort,

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<v Speaker 5>not use the first resort.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been in a situation where you were

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<v Speaker 5>No, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very lucky. They're very lucky, and I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>never are. This guy's a trained police officer. Okay, he's

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<v Speaker 1>in a Chick fil A, off duty, off duty, and

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<v Speaker 1>this guy comes in wielding a knife, apparently pursuing a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of people that he chased into the into the

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<v Speaker 1>set of circumstances into into the Chick fil A. So

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<v Speaker 1>if the police officer had the presence of mind to

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<v Speaker 1>have said, gentlemen, gentlemen, please please, we are in a

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<v Speaker 1>Chick fil A which has the best chicken sandwiches anyone

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<v Speaker 1>could buy. Let me offer. No. What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking, You're talking fantasy and this guy comes in

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<v Speaker 1>with a knife. The cops says, I'm a police officer,

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<v Speaker 1>drop the knife. The guy doesn't. An isis act that

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<v Speaker 1>the guy probably came at the cop with the knife.

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<v Speaker 1>Lit see with the investigation report shows.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh sure yea.

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<v Speaker 1>The assumption by these political progressives is that every cop

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<v Speaker 1>is named Derek Chauvin, every cop spent nine minutes on

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<v Speaker 1>the knee of a guy named George Floyd. They see

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<v Speaker 1>just as as people who are racist, and see all

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<v Speaker 1>Asian people are all white people, are all black people

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<v Speaker 1>as the same. They look at police officers irrespective of

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<v Speaker 1>what their color is or what their their their you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their ethnic background is. If they're wearing blue and there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a shooting, our condolences are going out to the heart,

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<v Speaker 1>from our heart to going out to the family of

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<v Speaker 1>the victim. Isn't that a statement that that appalls you.

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<v Speaker 5>She should have apologized to the police, said the police

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<v Speaker 5>office officer. And she she should have said, my condolences

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<v Speaker 5>are going out to everybody involved. I think that would

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<v Speaker 5>have been a little better.

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<v Speaker 1>Why condolences The only person who's dead is the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that pulled the knife on people.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the police officer has to live with that for

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you don't need he doesn't need condolences. Uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be to deal with you know, PTSD post

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic Yes that Yeah, so he doesn't need condolences. The

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<v Speaker 1>word is the condolences. Condolences? Who's when I hear Joe

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<v Speaker 1>that that you know your cousin died in an automobile accident. Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>my condolences to you for the death of your cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's Joe. I will we'll just agree to

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I ask one more question? Can I ask one

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<v Speaker 5>more quick questions? Years ago, I was living in an

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<v Speaker 5>other city, there was a knife fight in Waltham. Now

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying it's right. It was in a bar.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know there's any difference these, but a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of police went in and stopped it and separated and

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<v Speaker 5>got them out. Is there a difference between that and

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<v Speaker 5>what this guy was doing? Now this is only one man.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, there are other police officers that could back

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<v Speaker 5>each other up.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>You just you explained the differences. This is a set

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<v Speaker 1>of circumstances in which the police officer has to make

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<v Speaker 1>a split second decision. Not only is he concerned for

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<v Speaker 1>of it looked as if did you see the Well

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't see because you're blind, but there were pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of people running out of the Chick fil.

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<v Speaker 5>A, Okay, because I didn't see it. No, I just

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<v Speaker 5>heard on the notes. All right, Dan, I appreciate you're

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<v Speaker 5>taking my call.

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<v Speaker 1>Difference soon, good night. Let me keep rolling here, going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Christine and Denham. Christine, how are you tonight? Welcome?

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<v Speaker 7>Hello?

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<v Speaker 10>Are you Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>Little frustrated, but I'm glad you called.

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<v Speaker 10>I just try to say, my hat goes out to

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<v Speaker 10>that crop and I the workers and the customers who

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<v Speaker 10>all saw that. Back the blue, please, everybody needs to

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<v Speaker 10>back the blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know we we have on this country. We

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<v Speaker 1>have for years celebrated disrespect to the blue. And there

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<v Speaker 1>have been a lot of police officers who have lost

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<v Speaker 1>their lives, and a lot of police officers who are

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<v Speaker 1>of all backgrounds, you know, white police officers, black police officers,

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<v Speaker 1>Hispanic police officers. As a matter of fact, I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you actually do a deep dive, you realize that

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<v Speaker 1>because newer police officers tend to be minority categories classifications.

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<v Speaker 1>They are often dealing with the most dangerous jobs, working

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<v Speaker 1>overnights and all of that. And you know we've highlighted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some of the police officers who have lost

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. I did a commentary it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know ten years ago or when when Black

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<v Speaker 1>about four or five days. One was from Philadelphia, one

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<v Speaker 1>was from Atlanta, and the third was from a city

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<v Speaker 1>in Louisiana that I I can't remember. They were all

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<v Speaker 1>black guys, you know, in their in their mid thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all police officers. I didn't see any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a press release that their their lives mattered from Black

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<v Speaker 1>Lives Matter, you know, it became political and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just.

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<v Speaker 10>And why can't we open remember how we had all

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<v Speaker 10>the mental state mental hospitals that we all we always

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<v Speaker 10>used to have. Why can't they open them and help

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<v Speaker 10>them out, like get these people help, like reopen all

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<v Speaker 1>No, there was a there was a political move in

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts which essentially said that it was that they they

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<v Speaker 1>basically deinstitutionalized people, and they deinstitutionalize people to the streets

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<v Speaker 1>of Massachusetts. And we now see that maybe that great

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<v Speaker 1>social experiment hasn't worked. And and then you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know this guy, if you watch the two local TV

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<v Speaker 1>stations tonight four or five, you probably saw that there

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<v Speaker 1>were this guy had plenty of uh interactions with the

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<v Speaker 1>with law enforcement and with the courts. UH. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I don't know about you, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I know you well enough to know that if I

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<v Speaker 1>get a parking ticket, I'm terrified that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be uh that I'm going to somehow lose it, or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to send the check and it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the right place, and then I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to, you know, have my register. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a law follower. Okay. I don't want police officers

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<v Speaker 1>to bully anybody, but I want police officers to do

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly, all right.

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<v Speaker 10>I hope I'm helping well.

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<v Speaker 1>I hopefully he doesn't need help. Hopefully he can understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe by listening to a program. Later, this realized that

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of people support police. Uh, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>support police if they go rogue, as Derek Chauvin did.

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<v Speaker 1>But Derek Chauvin doesn't represent the vast majority of police

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<v Speaker 1>officers in this country, although many wanted to depict him

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<v Speaker 10>Right, story, Yeah, I have okay story if I can

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<v Speaker 10>tell you One time I was young, I was in

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<v Speaker 10>talent my sister and her now her my brother in law,

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<v Speaker 10>and we were shocking, al humeless. Lady thought we stole

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<v Speaker 10>a bag from her and she's chased us with an umbrella.

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<v Speaker 10>She was trying to hit my sister over the head.

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<v Speaker 10>My brother in law came out of the store and

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<v Speaker 10>was like, what the heck is going on? So they

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<v Speaker 10>grabbed the crops of the crop and they knew who

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<v Speaker 10>she was and the rested her right away. He was

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<v Speaker 10>screaming and yelling.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh it was so cierri. That was.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the big city. Thanks Christine, gotta run, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you much. Talk to you soon. There comes the news

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of minutes later. Always good to talk

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<v Speaker 1>with Christine. Coming back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Night Side, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the district Attorney Kevin Hayden, who is

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<v Speaker 1>who is doing his best to channel Rachel Rawlins said,

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<v Speaker 1>our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends

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<v Speaker 1>of the individual who was lost. I mean the individual

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<v Speaker 1>who was lost. It sounds like somebody who was hiking

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<v Speaker 1>in the White Mountains of New Hampshire fell down a ravine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the district attorney, Kevin Hayden. Okay, let's keep rolling here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go real quickly to Larry in Sherborne. Larry,

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<v Speaker 1>you were next on nightside. I appreciate you taking the

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<v Speaker 1>time to call Larry. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, Dan, I actually live in Millis, but was on

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<v Speaker 11>the Sherborne place in the Falmouth and also military, and

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<v Speaker 11>most of my experience with taking firearms was actually in

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<v Speaker 11>the military. And that included eleven of them where they

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<v Speaker 11>were armed on the scene, and eight of nine of

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<v Speaker 11>them were murders.

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<v Speaker 1>And you you were you were in the military and

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<v Speaker 1>you killed eight of nine enemy.

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<v Speaker 11>No, no, no, I didn't kill any of them. I

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<v Speaker 11>responded to eleven calls where people were armed on the scene. Okay,

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<v Speaker 11>I got you that eight of them were actually murders

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<v Speaker 11>where they were still on the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Were were you in military police?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, I'm retired from that. Also, I spent twenty two

425
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<v Speaker 11>years in that plug.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So take your experience, and take your experience and

427
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<v Speaker 1>overlay it on what you know about the Boston police

428
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<v Speaker 1>shooting on Saturday, late Saturday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, to begin with, I visued a warning too about

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<v Speaker 11>to an individual. Although I was in uniform, I had

431
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<v Speaker 11>an advantage there. Yeah, But I arrived at the scene

432
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<v Speaker 11>with another guy. We had four more cops arriving, so

433
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<v Speaker 11>I wasn't alone, but there were There was a gentleman

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<v Speaker 11>laying dead on his back with a bullet hole in

435
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<v Speaker 11>his chest, and eighteen feet in front of between me

436
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<v Speaker 11>and him was the individual was armed with an M

437
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<v Speaker 11>sixteen rifle and who had just shot it. We even

438
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<v Speaker 11>heard the shots. We were in the neighborhood, you know,

439
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<v Speaker 11>just talking to somebody else and when we heard the shots,

440
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<v Speaker 11>So we were there very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>You in the military or civilian at this point?

442
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<v Speaker 12>Uh No, I was.

443
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<v Speaker 11>I did civilian later on a federal contract, but I

444
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<v Speaker 11>was military at that point.

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<v Speaker 6>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, so what did you guy, what do you

447
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<v Speaker 1>guys do in that situation?

448
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<v Speaker 11>Well, basically, his back was to us. He was turned

449
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<v Speaker 11>sideways and basically the words and I'll put a blank

450
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<v Speaker 11>on other words, you can figure out what it is.

451
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<v Speaker 11>My exact words to him was you'll move, I'll blow

452
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<v Speaker 11>your blank head off. And he dropped the gun. We

453
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<v Speaker 11>put him against the wall and handcuffed him and it

454
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<v Speaker 11>took him well without incident. Okay, good, But that's and

455
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<v Speaker 11>I've had another case in the Colorade.

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<v Speaker 1>What a more interested in Larry's How would your experience

457
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<v Speaker 1>in these situations? What would your assessment be of what?

458
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<v Speaker 1>Obviously you weren't there? But this guys in a fast

459
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<v Speaker 1>food chain in Copley Square, he's in civilian clothes, as

460
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, he's got his service weapon with him. Incomes

461
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<v Speaker 1>of two people who were escaping this guy. Uh, and

462
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<v Speaker 1>the guy comes in with a knife. I don't know

463
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<v Speaker 1>what happened, but I'm assuming that that he didn't wake

464
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<v Speaker 1>up yesterday morning or Saturday morning. Sam, I'm gonna kill

465
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<v Speaker 1>somebody today. How would you describe how do you think

466
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<v Speaker 1>that went down?

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<v Speaker 11>Well? I think the police officers isn't what he had

468
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<v Speaker 11>to do, because I'll tell you if that guy hadn't

469
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<v Speaker 11>drop that, I would have shot him.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's yeah, that's that's what's most.

471
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<v Speaker 11>At glad I didn't have to, but if it was necessary,

472
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<v Speaker 11>I'd have to resort to what I had to do

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<v Speaker 11>to protect myself and others.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, That's exactly. I just don't understand why people now

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be so skeptical. I mean, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>this is, uh, you know, some kid who was down

477
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<v Speaker 1>an alley way unarmed and the cop shot him, you're

478
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<v Speaker 1>going to say, well, you know, maybe obviously that's not

479
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<v Speaker 1>a good situation. But this is in front of probably

480
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<v Speaker 1>dozens of witnesses, and yet still the default position of

481
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<v Speaker 1>our political leaders in our district attorney is condolences to

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<v Speaker 1>the family of the man who died.

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<v Speaker 11>And incidentally, I may mention one in Denver, Colorado, New

484
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<v Speaker 11>Year's Eve nineteen seventy one to seventy one, we had

485
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<v Speaker 11>a call these five guys that jumped on one and

486
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<v Speaker 11>cut him with the straight razer right across the neck. Yeah,

487
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 11>and we were in the neighborhood. I got the guy

488
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<v Speaker 11>myself and my partner got the guy coming out of

489
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<v Speaker 11>the door, and he pulled the straight raizer on us.

490
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<v Speaker 11>We were carrying night sticks, so I put my nightstick

491
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<v Speaker 11>across the hand that had a straight raiser broke all

492
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<v Speaker 11>four of his fingers. That was the only injury he

493
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<v Speaker 11>ended up having. But if I didn't have the night stick.

494
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<v Speaker 12>Out of shot him.

495
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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he came at me with a straight razor, and.

496
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<v Speaker 1>A straight razor up close and personal can do a

497
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<v Speaker 1>lot of damage. Larry, I gotta keep rolling. Thank you

498
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<v Speaker 1>so much for calling in. If you called here with

499
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<v Speaker 1>a straight razor, I know have you called in before? No?

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<v Speaker 11>Uh, yes, I have called before.

501
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Well keep calling.

502
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 11>I believe you probably know me any way way back

503
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<v Speaker 11>from your former residence.

504
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, No, I was kind of putting things together

505
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<v Speaker 1>as we talked. Always great to hear your voice. Thanks

506
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:22.599
<v Speaker 1>so much.

507
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 11>I thought i'd contribute that anyway. I won't tell you

508
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<v Speaker 11>up because I could go on and on and.

509
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's okay. All I'm just saying is.

510
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<v Speaker 11>What that police officer did. He did what he needed

511
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<v Speaker 11>to do to protect himself as well as the other

512
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 11>people are there and that individual, and I'm I had

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<v Speaker 11>the thought the guy probably does have a mental health problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, Larry, I got I got packed lines

515
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<v Speaker 1>and I enjoyed get Thanks. I appreciate it. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>go next to Mike and Newton, Mike next on Nightsager right.

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<v Speaker 12>Ahead, A damn the few things that want to mention him,

518
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:05.480
<v Speaker 12>as well as the question I have, So you're one

519
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 12>of your previous calls Joe, he had mentioned the fact

520
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<v Speaker 12>that he would have liked to have seen the guy

521
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<v Speaker 12>subdued by other means. Okay, that's that's all. Well, I'm good, Okay. Now,

522
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<v Speaker 12>I've never been a cop. I know if you I

523
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:20.759
<v Speaker 12>know if you're Boston cops. I know a few stadies okay,

524
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:22.720
<v Speaker 12>and I know your brother's on the job. But I'm

525
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<v Speaker 12>not going to get into all that. Okay, Okay, So

526
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<v Speaker 12>guy's off duty. Okay, he's out either with his buds

527
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 12>or running errands or what have you. Okay, when these

528
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<v Speaker 12>guys go out Boston, I don't know how it works

529
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<v Speaker 12>for the departments, but Boston cops, they some of them

530
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<v Speaker 12>do carry when they're off. They have to have their

531
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<v Speaker 12>badge with them. The way I am to stand the policy,

532
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<v Speaker 12>and they're their their standard issue is the is the

533
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<v Speaker 12>clock nine millimeter? But anyway, well, when this guy's out, okay,

534
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 12>he has got time to put his entire arsenal on

535
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<v Speaker 12>his on on his waist or yeah, yeah, he might

536
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 12>have his piece. He might, he might might have his coups.

537
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 12>He definitely has his badge in case he has to

538
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<v Speaker 12>flash it. Okay, but you know he can't he put

539
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 12>he can't put all a lot of crap on his

540
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<v Speaker 12>mas his stun gun, extra clip, maybe an extra clip.

541
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<v Speaker 12>But you know he hasn't got time to put all

542
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<v Speaker 12>that crap.

543
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<v Speaker 1>Bulletproof, his bulletproof best, the whole yards, the old nine yard.

544
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<v Speaker 12>Yes, exactly right. He hasn't had time. You know, he

545
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<v Speaker 12>wants to walk around a feeling a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little comment down, now, comment down, No need to.

547
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<v Speaker 12>Say I'm fine, I'm fine.

548
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you maybe, but my bosses might not be with

549
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<v Speaker 1>that one. Okay, go ahead, Well what a man?

550
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<v Speaker 7>What is?

551
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Put him on hold and explain to him what he said. Okay,

552
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and we'll keep rolling here. We got to take a

553
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>quick break on Nightside. Coming right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

555
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<v Speaker 2>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me go back to Mike. Mike, I think you

557
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<v Speaker 1>know what you said. So let's continue real quickly though,

558
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>because we're running out of.

559
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<v Speaker 8>Being loose.

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<v Speaker 12>So long story short, that this guy and I'm gonna

561
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<v Speaker 12>take it. I'm gonna I'm gonna take on a good

562
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 12>fake that maybe this guy had mental issues.

563
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<v Speaker 8>Maybe I don't know.

564
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<v Speaker 12>I wasn't there, you weren't there, you know, I don't know.

565
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 12>Cop probably had to do what he had to do. Unfortunately,

566
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 12>he it came down to putting a bullet maybe two,

567
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.720
<v Speaker 12>maybe two rounds to him. I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 12>do have But I do have one one question. Though

569
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<v Speaker 12>the mayor has been mentioned a show times in this situation,

570
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<v Speaker 12>what's the deal with her? Aside from the fact that

571
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<v Speaker 12>she's she's that she runs the police and uh, well

572
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 12>we talked.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you've listened to the show for the last

574
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<v Speaker 1>couple of hours, her instinct was to offer the condolences,

575
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<v Speaker 1>uh to the to to the family of the guy

576
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<v Speaker 1>that was shot. Yeah, I mean I could. I could

577
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<v Speaker 1>play it real quickly, and I'm going to do it

578
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.119
<v Speaker 1>because you're called in late rob real quickly here. Just

579
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<v Speaker 1>play forty one, forty one, even for me forty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Even My condolences and and all of our thoughts are

581
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<v Speaker 3>with the family of the individual whose life has been lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Condolences to the person whose family life has been lost

583
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<v Speaker 1>the guy that was wielding the knife, simple as that

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<v Speaker 1>right tone deaf tone deaf Mike, I got to run here,

585
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I got pack lines. Okay, gotta run, thank you, good knife. Okay,

586
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys have all called in late, so you gotta

587
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<v Speaker 1>be quick. I'm going to try to get everyone in.

588
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be tough. Gonna start with you, Danielle, go

589
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<v Speaker 1>right ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>Two quick things.

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<v Speaker 13>A couple of callers. Ago is his name, Dan, the

592
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<v Speaker 13>guy that calls all the time. He was the one

593
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<v Speaker 13>that was disagreeing with you. And you know, my question

594
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<v Speaker 13>to him is what if it was you? I mean,

595
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<v Speaker 13>you're gonna expect the cop to stop and think about it.

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<v Speaker 13>And the guy just before me, he kind of said

597
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<v Speaker 13>what I was thinking, like, these guys don't carry around

598
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<v Speaker 13>and are you know, all different cools. They have a

599
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<v Speaker 13>split second to think about it. He did what he's

600
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<v Speaker 13>what he was supposed to do as far as warning

601
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<v Speaker 13>him and all that. He's a trained professional. I know

602
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<v Speaker 13>what berna is and I've looked at one for myself.

603
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.920
<v Speaker 13>Something that's not a train police officer. That maybe if

604
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<v Speaker 13>I was in a situation walking to my car and

605
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<v Speaker 13>someone you know, but that's not for a trained police officer.

606
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<v Speaker 13>And and the.

607
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<v Speaker 1>Give the police officer a sling shot or a.

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<v Speaker 13>Bun and the other the man that just called in

609
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<v Speaker 13>that was military. He hit the nail on the head

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<v Speaker 13>when he said these guys like he said, I didn't

611
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<v Speaker 13>he's like I would have shot him.

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<v Speaker 14>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 13>I wouldn't have wanted to. These guys are human. They

614
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<v Speaker 13>go home to their family. Do you think he's this

615
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<v Speaker 13>This poor guy feels great right now knowing that he

616
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.400
<v Speaker 13>killed somebody. Of course, this is the date suffer from this.

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<v Speaker 13>And know a lot of cops that have been in

618
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<v Speaker 13>tough situations and you know, shout up at fatalities, bad accidents,

619
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<v Speaker 13>and they suffer. I mean, it's not make a gang member.

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<v Speaker 13>So anyway, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just did not all named Derek Chauvin. The Left has

622
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<v Speaker 1>tried to portray every police officer in this country Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Chauvin or a potential.

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<v Speaker 13>Derek chau But you know what, I have a Michelle

625
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<v Speaker 13>wu type that lives across from me at home, and

626
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<v Speaker 13>they're the ones with the defund the police signs or whatever.

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<v Speaker 9>You know.

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<v Speaker 13>Police are home on their lawns, but they're the first

629
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<v Speaker 13>ones to call if something's going on in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, the first ones.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>In two minutes. Thank you, good night, Satchi and Soga.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta be quick, Saty, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi Dan, I just want to say, I want to

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<v Speaker 6>support the gentleman who called Joe Uh. I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>that's the use of you know, fools. The reason is,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the mayor, the doctor, sorry, the police chief

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<v Speaker 6>and that would not just come out and say I'm

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<v Speaker 6>so you know, we condolences. So there has to be

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<v Speaker 6>a more than one reason. Maybe the officer acted really fast.

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<v Speaker 6>There are a lot of countries they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe maybe the officer had no choice but to

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<v Speaker 1>act fast.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe maybe you.

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<v Speaker 1>See how the investigation, see how the satch Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>can speculate, I can speculate. We'll see how the investigation

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<v Speaker 1>comes out.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, on the string you mentioned, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>In India they carry a stick, not a gun. In

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<v Speaker 6>Australia they don't carry guns.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they maybe they Maybe what we should do I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell where you're coming from, Sachi. Maybe what we

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<v Speaker 1>should have them do is carry I don't know, tennis rackets,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or or some thing that that wouldn't kill people.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be that would be wonderful. And so then

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<v Speaker 1>when they're out on the street some night at midnight

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<v Speaker 1>because you've been in a car accident and some guy

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<v Speaker 1>with a gun is threatening you and wants to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>you because by mistake you were ended him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a car accident, and the police comes along, he

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<v Speaker 1>can have his tennis racket to try to defend you

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<v Speaker 1>from the guy shooting you. That makes a lot of sense,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, yes, okay, No, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough Satue for now, because they got two more. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to get to as well. And you're into that

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<v Speaker 1>was nuts. Do me a favor, call me back a

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<v Speaker 1>little earlier. I really want to have some longer conversations

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<v Speaker 1>with you, Satch, I really do.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, then, thank you, have a good night.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe is in Cambridge. Joe, bring me back to reality.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh my god, damn.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't believe these callers.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody now know why people get elected in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 9>Go ahead, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, anyway, I I want to start off saying I

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<v Speaker 14>feel for the police officer. I know I know what

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<v Speaker 14>it feels like firsthand. Not myself, but I have family

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<v Speaker 14>retired police that were involved in that situation, exact situation,

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<v Speaker 14>and it takes it does take a toll in the family,

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<v Speaker 14>and especially I'm the police officer, and people need to

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<v Speaker 14>understand that. So for you know, that whack a doodle,

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<v Speaker 14>that's my opinion of the mayor. For her to make

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<v Speaker 14>that comment is just beyond me. But I'm not, No,

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<v Speaker 14>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what it is. What it is, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mindset. Go ahead and make it other point

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<v Speaker 1>and then I gotta I.

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<v Speaker 14>Got real quick, yep, and real quick.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 9>The other couple of callers, the one that mentioned about.

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<v Speaker 14>That burner gun. Listen, that's a pepper jail ball. It's

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<v Speaker 14>not tear gash. And you know they're a little hard

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<v Speaker 14>pell of they're not gonna it's not gonna stop. And

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<v Speaker 14>the police officers off duty, he's not carrying all these crinkets.

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<v Speaker 9>He's good as off duty.

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<v Speaker 8>He's good at study, Rover.

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<v Speaker 9>And second thing people even understand is that thing called

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<v Speaker 9>a twenty one foot rule, which by the way, was

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<v Speaker 9>tested in about twenty sixteen and ever in that ever

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<v Speaker 9>police shooting where you know they say about one point

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<v Speaker 9>five seconds it takes for a person to run twenty

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<v Speaker 9>one feet. You know that was that was already thrown

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<v Speaker 9>out the window in that twenty sixteen shooting and Everett.

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<v Speaker 9>As a matter of fact, I think they've extended that now.

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<v Speaker 9>That police officer was in full sprint backwards when that

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<v Speaker 9>attacker came at him, and even then he just missed missed,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, cutting him.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, Joe, I got to run one o

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<v Speaker 1>the caller. You guys calling late and I can't give

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<v Speaker 1>you more time. So and you got a call earlier.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, thanks Joe, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks. I have a great night, James, and Dearry New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the last of the night. I got about a

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<v Speaker 1>minute for you.

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<v Speaker 8>James, go right ahead, so listen, I just got a

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<v Speaker 8>real quick comic. Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, So I.

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<v Speaker 7>Have law enforcement experience on the West Coast. People are

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<v Speaker 7>forgetting one thing. If this guy had not done what

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<v Speaker 7>he did and he decided to go hands on with

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<v Speaker 7>this guy and he got stabbed, and then the guy

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<v Speaker 7>went on to kill several other people, they would have

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<v Speaker 7>been wondering why he didn't shoot him.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, couldn't agree with you more, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean?

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<v Speaker 7>Bottom line, they would have, they would have been they

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<v Speaker 7>would have been crying foul.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well maybe some of our politicians would not have been.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't have been shedding tears, but publicly they would

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<v Speaker 1>have been saying the right thing. Uh, it's don't thank

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<v Speaker 1>thank god you live in the state of New Hampshire

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<v Speaker 1>where you have governors like Sinunu and ar simple as that.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely absolutely thanks James.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you've never called me before, right, No.

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<v Speaker 7>I called you three times before we actually got into

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<v Speaker 7>a good thing about Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>But I keep calling the show man. Appreciate it very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 7>When I get out at eleven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 12>I we're going to major hospital system in Boston.

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<v Speaker 7>When I get out of eleven, I can call you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you much, appreciate it. We're done for the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember if you missed any of our program, particularly on

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<v Speaker 1>nine o'clock news tonight, go tomorrow, go tonight or well tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Once Robin has posted the nine o'clock hour with Krene

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<v Speaker 1>Hagar Hagar of the Hajar Heyjar, I should say, has

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<v Speaker 1>Jar excuse me of the Boston Globe. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>great hour. I will be on night side Facebook nights

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<v Speaker 1>Side with Dan ray in just a moment. All dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie ray Is, who passed fifteen years ago last month.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where all your pets are past. They loved you

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<v Speaker 1>and you love them. I do believe you'll see them again.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see get Themorrow night on Nightside. I'll be on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook Nightside with Dan Ray in just a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great Tuesday, everybody. Thank you, Rob, thank you Maria,
