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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had a moment that made your skin crawl,

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<v Speaker 1>a shadow where there shouldn't be one, a whisper in

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<v Speaker 1>an empty room, or something you simply can't explain. If so,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's truth or fiction, if it's haunted, we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>now sit back and enjoy the episode. I took a

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<v Speaker 1>huge breath and walked through the door. I found nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>no one. A very cold and dark feeling swept over me.

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<v Speaker 1>I grabbed my bag, went back into the hall, closed

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<v Speaker 1>the window at the back of the stage, switched the

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<v Speaker 1>lights off, made sure the kitchen lights were off, and

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<v Speaker 1>got outside. It was still daylight and the mood was

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<v Speaker 1>so much lighter. But I had no idea what I'd

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<v Speaker 1>just experienced in that community hall. This is episode sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four of the Haunted UK podcast, and in this episode

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<v Speaker 1>will be taken to a haunted community center. But isn't

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of haunted place so much worse than castles,

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<v Speaker 1>manor homes and remote deserted cabins in woods because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a place most of us know, a place which is

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<v Speaker 1>typical in so many towns in the UK, A place

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<v Speaker 1>we've been to for parties, weighings, jumble sales, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it well. A place where chairs are stacked to the

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<v Speaker 1>side for events, with a small stage and musty curtains,

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<v Speaker 1>a kitchen with a tea and serving hatch, posters on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall advertising yoga toys, stash just under the stage

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<v Speaker 1>for a preschool group, pantomimes at Christmas, committee meetings on Tuesdays,

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<v Speaker 1>all very tame, all very every day. And it's not tame,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not something you can stack away neatly to

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<v Speaker 1>the side or hide behind a stage curtain, although you

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<v Speaker 1>may want to after hearing this. Yes, a real life

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<v Speaker 1>ghost story is so much worse when it's a place

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<v Speaker 1>we walk past every day. Perhaps you yourself are involved

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<v Speaker 1>with such a place. Perhaps you're the one to lock

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<v Speaker 1>up at night, the last to switch off the lights,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you are well, take care caretaker. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>might sting. So we've had so many listener stories since

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<v Speaker 1>the show started back in June twenty twenty one, and

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<v Speaker 1>with the kind permission of a few listeners, their stories

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<v Speaker 1>have been developed into full episodes. This episode is another

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<v Speaker 1>one which joins those before it, an episode which takes

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<v Speaker 1>us on a journey through the experiences of a woman

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<v Speaker 1>called Jan. It's been quite some time since her story

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<v Speaker 1>was sent into the show, but it was so gripping

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<v Speaker 1>and astounding that we felt that it needed its own episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Jan was extremely kind enough to allow us to develop

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<v Speaker 1>her story and experiences, but she was also incredibly brave

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<v Speaker 1>enough to give us her blessing to share this story

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<v Speaker 1>with all of you, and brave with what she endured

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<v Speaker 1>in that community center tasked with turning off those lights.

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<v Speaker 1>We've said so many times on this show that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who has had a paranormal experience should be allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>tell their story without the risk of fear or ridicule.

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<v Speaker 1>They should be comfortable to share their experiences with a

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<v Speaker 1>community who will not only listen, but will also give support.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's you, amazing listeners of this show who do

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<v Speaker 1>just that and more. And with that said, it's now

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<v Speaker 1>time to hand over to Jan and hear her account.

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<v Speaker 1>Get ready to hear something phenomenal, an extraordinary experience in

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<v Speaker 1>such an ordinary place. I've been a fan of the

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<v Speaker 1>show for quite a while now, and although the following

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<v Speaker 1>story happened over ten years ago, it's still taken all

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<v Speaker 1>of this time to gain the courage to type it out.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jan, and I've been retired for six years.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband and I lived in a town in the

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<v Speaker 1>northwest of England for over twenty years, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>here where I experienced what I'm certain were a series

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<v Speaker 1>of paranormal events, but also something else, something very very dark.

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<v Speaker 1>To give you some backstory, I'd worked in an office

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<v Speaker 1>environment since i'd left school. It was a career that

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<v Speaker 1>I fell into but thoroughly enjoyed. I made so many

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<v Speaker 1>valuable friends over the years and had some really memorable times.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of that changed when, at fifty years old,

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<v Speaker 1>I suffered a huge heart attack. Everything in my life changed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was encouraged to quit my job, being told that

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<v Speaker 1>the stress of a busy office environment could bring on

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<v Speaker 1>another one, and it could be fatal. My husband and

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<v Speaker 1>I were both devastated. All of our plans, our hopes

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<v Speaker 1>now put on hold. My husband continued to work, and

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<v Speaker 1>because we'd been quite savvy over the years with our finances,

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<v Speaker 1>we actually owned our house outright. So I began to

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<v Speaker 1>do other less stressful things, lighthousework, going to the local

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<v Speaker 1>park for walks, gardening. But how much gardening can you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Year after year after year? For eight years? I did

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<v Speaker 1>what I was told, stepped back from the more stressful

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<v Speaker 1>things in life and took a more relaxed and backseat approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Holidays were a much slower affair, not doing too much

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But I always felt I was wasting away,

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<v Speaker 1>felt that my life was passing me by. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do this any longer. I had to do something. The

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<v Speaker 1>community center in our small town hosted all types of

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<v Speaker 1>events and meetings, from nursery play days, birthday parties, and

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<v Speaker 1>wedding receptions to small gigs, council meetings, and even company

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<v Speaker 1>team building days. I'd seen an advertisement attached to the

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<v Speaker 1>announcement board asking for a cleaner and part time caretaker

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<v Speaker 1>I'd simply had enough of gardening and wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>something else. My husband and I had a good chat

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<v Speaker 1>about the risks of me going back to work, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was insistent that I wanted to do this, insistent that,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, I needed something to get my teeth into,

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<v Speaker 1>something to get involved in. I called the number on

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<v Speaker 1>the advertisement, and a few days later was invited to

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<v Speaker 1>an interview with the local council house. There were obviously

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<v Speaker 1>concerns about my health, but I hadn't had any problems

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<v Speaker 1>with my heart for around eight years, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>more than happy to go through all of the checks

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<v Speaker 1>which would enable me to be present at daytime nursery

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<v Speaker 1>gatherings with children as well as kids' birthday parties. I

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<v Speaker 1>so desperately wanted this job, so desperately wanted to feel

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<v Speaker 1>as if I was valued again. To my surprise, I

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<v Speaker 1>was offered the job. I was absolutely over the moon

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<v Speaker 1>and called my husband at work to let him know

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been offered the role of cleaner and part

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<v Speaker 1>time caretaker. I would be starting in just under two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks time. On the first day, I walked to work.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fairly close to home and wasn't a strenuous

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<v Speaker 1>walk at all. As I approached, I noticed a man

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<v Speaker 1>standing outside the entrance of the community center. As he

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<v Speaker 1>saw me, he smiled and walked out onto the pavement

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<v Speaker 1>to greet me. He reached out a hand to shake

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<v Speaker 1>mine and introduced himself as Tom. He was around sixty

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<v Speaker 1>years old, quite tall and very pleasant and polite. Tom

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<v Speaker 1>opened up the building and began to show me around.

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<v Speaker 1>After entering the double doors at the front of the building,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a large kitchen to the left, down a

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<v Speaker 1>short corridor. To the right was a cloakroom, storage space,

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<v Speaker 1>and two separate toilets. Coming back to the entrance hall,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another set of double doors which led into

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<v Speaker 1>a large hall. Down at the far end was a

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<v Speaker 1>stage with two doors either side. There was also a

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<v Speaker 1>bar on the left hand side, but this was only

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<v Speaker 1>opened and operated by a train staff. The door to

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<v Speaker 1>the left of the stage led to another set of toilets,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as storage rooms and a changing room, which

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<v Speaker 1>had a door leading to the side of the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also a fire exit. The door on the

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<v Speaker 1>right hand side of the stage had a similar layout,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead of toilets, there were changing rooms in a

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<v Speaker 1>large office. As Tom was showing me around, he mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that the building used to be part of an old school.

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<v Speaker 1>The school had been converted into offices for the local

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<v Speaker 1>council and the hall was assigned as a community center.

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<v Speaker 1>This had happened years before my husband and I had

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<v Speaker 1>moved to the area, so whilst we knew of the buildings,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd never really taken too much notice of them. The

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<v Speaker 1>place had a good feel to it, nothing unusual at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom went off to the kitchen to make us a drink,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wandered around the hall and got up onto

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<v Speaker 1>the stage. It was fairly large with stage each lighting

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<v Speaker 1>mounted onto a frame which looked like it was attached

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<v Speaker 1>to the ceiling. There were also long black curtains either

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<v Speaker 1>side of the stage, covering the legs of the frame

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<v Speaker 1>which held the lighting. I heard the doors open again

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<v Speaker 1>and Tom appeared holding two mugs of coffee. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a general chat about what the job entailed, when I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be working, and if I'd be interested in out of

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<v Speaker 1>hours work. Tom said that there were sometimes things such

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<v Speaker 1>as cancel functions, birthday parties, and wedding receptions that took

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<v Speaker 1>place until around eleven PM. I had no problem with

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<v Speaker 1>this at all, and Tom said that he and another

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<v Speaker 1>woman called Tammy, and myself would share the offers of

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<v Speaker 1>work as they came in. I was incredibly happy and

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't wait to get started. Weeks went by, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time I was clearing up after kids' parties,

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<v Speaker 1>sweeping up, re stacking the chairs, and generally tidying up.

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<v Speaker 1>But but it was one of these parties that things

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<v Speaker 1>started to happen. Now, I have to say this for

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<v Speaker 1>the record before we go any further. I've never had

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<v Speaker 1>any reason to believe in the paranormal or the supernatural

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life. I'd never seen a ghost, never experienced

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<v Speaker 1>a poltergeist, never felt an oppressive and overwhelming atmosphere. I

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<v Speaker 1>even messed around with the weija boards when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager, but never saw what all the fuss was about.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, I was pretty much a skeptic. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the first incident. I'd been supervising

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<v Speaker 1>a children's birthday party on a Saturday afternoon, and the

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<v Speaker 1>aftermath was like a bomb had gone off in the

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<v Speaker 1>main hall. Little by little, parents and children filtered out

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<v Speaker 1>of the building, leaving me alone to begin cleaning up

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<v Speaker 1>and tidying away chairs and tables. All of this was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty light work, and to be honest, it was good

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<v Speaker 1>to be busy. I cleaned, then collapsed the tables, stacked

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<v Speaker 1>of this window could be opened, and because it was

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<v Speaker 1>and used the rope pulley to open the window. The

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<v Speaker 1>cooler air from outside began to fill the hall, making

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<v Speaker 1>the room feel immediately better. I made my way back

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<v Speaker 1>to the kitchen, where I'd stacked all the cups and

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<v Speaker 1>mugs which had been used by the parents, and began

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<v Speaker 1>to fill the sink so I could wash them, dry them,

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<v Speaker 1>and put them away. I was quite happily washing up

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<v Speaker 1>when I heard a door bang. It sounded like it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the doors in the main hall. I

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed a towel, dried my hands, and went out to

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<v Speaker 1>the entrance hall. I checked the main door, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were locked, and it was me that had locked them.

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<v Speaker 1>After the last party guests had left. I quickly checked

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<v Speaker 1>the door opposite the kitchen and had a look around,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing. Well, it could be a guest still in

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<v Speaker 1>the main hall, I remembered, thinking maybe they'd gone into

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<v Speaker 1>one of the rooms at the side of the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I went through the double doors into the main hall. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I checked the rooms to the left of the stage

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<v Speaker 1>again nothing. The fire exit door was still secure as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back into the hall and opened the door

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<v Speaker 1>to the right of the stage, and as I walked inside,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard another noise coming from the hall. I immediately

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<v Speaker 1>went back into the hall and saw one of the

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<v Speaker 1>double doors slowly closing. I was really beginning to get

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<v Speaker 1>nervous now, and my mobile phone, my only chance of

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<v Speaker 1>getting hold of someone, was in my handbag in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouted hello a few times, but nothing came back.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Hello. I was torn between just going back and

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<v Speaker 1>leaving via the fire escape and going through those doors

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<v Speaker 1>and confronting what was there, And that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It could only be a member of the party. All

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<v Speaker 1>the doors were locked. I took a huge breath and

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<v Speaker 1>walked through the door. I found no one, nothing at all.

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<v Speaker 1>A very cold and dark feeling swept over me. I

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed my bag, went back into the hall, closed the

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<v Speaker 1>window at the back of the stage, switched the lights off,

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<v Speaker 1>made sure the kitchen lights were off, and got outside.

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<v Speaker 1>It was still daylight and the mood was so much lighter,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had no idea what I'd just experienced in

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<v Speaker 1>that community hall. Around a week or so later, my

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<v Speaker 1>next encounter with the paranormal happened. It was a similar event,

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<v Speaker 1>a children's birthday party, and as previous, the place was

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<v Speaker 1>a mess. After everyone had left, I had to get

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<v Speaker 1>everything cleaned up and ready for Tammy, who was turning

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<v Speaker 1>up at around six p m. There was a party

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<v Speaker 1>which was being held in the evening, and Tammy had

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to take the work on. The bar would also

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<v Speaker 1>be open so she wouldn't be on her own. After

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<v Speaker 1>everyone had gone again, everyone from the party that I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking after had left, and I did my usual

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<v Speaker 1>thing of locking myself inside the building. I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>tie the up tables, plates, mugs, get them washed and

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<v Speaker 1>put away. Then I'd move into putting the toys back

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<v Speaker 1>into storage and stacking the chairs. I came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen through the double doors and into the hall

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<v Speaker 1>and was simply stopped in my tracks. At the far

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<v Speaker 1>end of the hall, a toy pushchair was just sitting there,

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<v Speaker 1>toward the left hand wall. In a mixture of pure

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<v Speaker 1>terror and a star punishment, I watched that pushchair move

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<v Speaker 1>by itself around ten feet across the room. It moved slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no way that it was the wind

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<v Speaker 1>or the draft from a door that was doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was happening right in front of me. I could

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<v Speaker 1>feel my skin crawl, the hair on my neck stand

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<v Speaker 1>on end, but I couldn't move. Maybe it was the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of terror that was gluing me to the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>After what seemed like minutes, I was able to move

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<v Speaker 1>and ran to the kitchen to get my bag. I

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<v Speaker 1>made my way outside and grabbed my phone and called

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<v Speaker 1>my husband. I asked him to come down to the

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<v Speaker 1>hall as quickly as possible. He asked if I was

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Was everything okay? I told in I needed

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<v Speaker 1>him to come down to the community center as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, and I'd be waiting outside. It wasn't long

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<v Speaker 1>before my husband arrived, and he came straight over to

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<v Speaker 1>me and hugged me and asked what was wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>took a deep breath and told him. He asked if

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<v Speaker 1>we could go back inside so he could take a look.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I agreed, and after we got through the

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<v Speaker 1>double doors and into the hall, there was the pushchair

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<v Speaker 1>back in the same place as it was before it moved.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt a complete fool. I wasn't imagining it. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it move. I know I did. My husband offered

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<v Speaker 1>to stay while I finished up, but I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>to carry on home. I'd stay behind and wait for

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy to turn up. I wanted to ask her a

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<v Speaker 1>few questions. Surely I wasn't the only one who'd experienced

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<v Speaker 1>something in this building. Just before six p m. Tammy

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<v Speaker 1>walked in, happy as anything until she saw my face.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything okay, jan, she said. I told her I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to ask her a serious question. She seemed obviously worried,

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<v Speaker 1>but told me to ask away. I told her what

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<v Speaker 1>I had experienced, and also told her that I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>imagining it. I saw it happen. There's a reason that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like working here during the day. Tammy said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it twice. She went on to explain that

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<v Speaker 1>her first sighting of it happened a few months after

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<v Speaker 1>she started work and took place in the main hall.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no noises, no warning signs. It just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>She explained that she came out of the kitchen and

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<v Speaker 1>threw the double doors in into the hall and just

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<v Speaker 1>stopped there. Stood down by the stage was a man

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<v Speaker 1>in what looked like an old fashioned suit, maybe from

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen twenties or thirties. Tammy said she couldn't make

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<v Speaker 1>out the features on the man's face because there seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a strange shimmering effect that surrounded him. She

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<v Speaker 1>said that this man was probably in front of her

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<v Speaker 1>for around twenty seconds before he walked towards the door

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<v Speaker 1>to the left of the stage and walked straight through it.

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<v Speaker 1>As you can imagine, Tammy was filled with a mixture

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<v Speaker 1>of terror and disbelief, but it was her second sighting

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<v Speaker 1>that really frightened her. She said that it took place

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<v Speaker 1>around six weeks after her first encounter. There was nothing

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<v Speaker 1>actually booked for the afternoon that she was there, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was asked by Tom to get the hall ready

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<v Speaker 1>for an awards presentation which was taking place that evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Chairs and tables had already been left out in the hall,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was just a question of Tammy setting them

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<v Speaker 1>out to the floor plan which had been left with her.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that she'd begun to unfold the tables and

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<v Speaker 1>lay them out when she decided to get herself a coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>As the kettle was boiling, Tammy said that she heard

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<v Speaker 1>what she could only describe as furniture moving, but on

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<v Speaker 1>a large and noisy scale. She said that she instantly

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<v Speaker 1>felt uneasy, frightened, wanting to get out as quickly as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also felt compelled to go back into the hall.

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<v Speaker 1>She said it just felt as if something was drawing

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<v Speaker 1>her back there. As she opened the double doors and

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<v Speaker 1>walked into the hall, she was astounded by what she saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Every table which she'd set up had now been shoved

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<v Speaker 1>against the stage at the far end. She even admitted

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<v Speaker 1>to walking down to the pile of tables and just

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<v Speaker 1>standing there, trying to rationalize what had just happened, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was no explanation. Then a noise came from the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>a crashing noise, as if plates and cups had been

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<v Speaker 1>dropped on the floor. Tammy said she ran back through

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<v Speaker 1>the double doors, expecting to see a complete mess, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead saw the outline of the same man that had

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<v Speaker 1>appeared in the main hall. Tammy recalls that the figure

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<v Speaker 1>looked like it had its back to her this time,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no shimmering effect, and after a few

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<v Speaker 1>seconds it disappeared. There was not one cup, mug or

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<v Speaker 1>plate had been smashed. Nothing was out of place. Tammy

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<v Speaker 1>then said that she immediately left the building, locked the doors,

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<v Speaker 1>and contacted Tom. Upon his arrival, Tom was taken inside

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<v Speaker 1>and Tammy led him into the hall and to the

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<v Speaker 1>pile of tables. She said that he helped her set

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<v Speaker 1>everything up and then sat down with her with a

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<v Speaker 1>coffee and listened intently to what had happened. He then

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<v Speaker 1>told her that this wasn't the first time that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>had seen or heard something at the community center. One

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<v Speaker 1>council employee in particular, refused to ever set foot in

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<v Speaker 1>the building again. After coming out of the toilet and

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<v Speaker 1>finding themselves face to face with the shadowy figure of

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<v Speaker 1>a man standing by the exit door. Two other people

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<v Speaker 1>were brought in to operate the bar. One evening swore

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<v Speaker 1>that they heard voices while they were alone and cleaning down.

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<v Speaker 1>These voices seemed to be moving around the hall and

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<v Speaker 1>the two bar staff left before finishing, instead choosing to

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<v Speaker 1>come back the following morning to finish up. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so pleased that Tammy had shared her experiences with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could fully understand the reasons behind neither her

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<v Speaker 1>nor Tom deciding to tell me that the building that

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to stop working in was haunted. So

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<v Speaker 1>many wouldn't believe that anyway, and to be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I would have either had I not seen

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<v Speaker 1>what I had. But where did that leave me? Did

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<v Speaker 1>I want to continue to work in this environment? I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to get in touch with Tom to have a chat.

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<v Speaker 1>I invited him around to my home, a more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>location where we could sit down and talk in confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>As we sat down, he seemed to have a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>what was coming. As I began to tell him what

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<v Speaker 1>I'd seen and also the fact that I'd spoken to Tammy,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom stopped me. He said that he was sympathetic, knew

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how I felt, and would totally understand if I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to leave the position. Also said that nobody had

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<v Speaker 1>ever come to harm because of the spirits that were

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<v Speaker 1>inside the building, and that statement tripped me up. Spirits

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I thought there was only one the man

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<v Speaker 1>in the suit. No no, no, said Tom. There are

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<v Speaker 1>apparently two spirits. Around five years ago, I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>after a wedding reception, so it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a late night. The bar staff were in and the

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<v Speaker 1>night went well. As the last of the guests were

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<v Speaker 1>leaving and we were tidying up, a woman approached me.

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<v Speaker 1>She was probably in her fifties, maybe early sixties anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>She asked if I was the manager. I told her

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<v Speaker 1>that the council owned and ran the building, and if

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to hire the hall, I could put her

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with the relevant people, but she said that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't what she wanted. Now, I must admit I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything at all. I felt things dark and dreadful atmospheres,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've even heard voices, but I've never seen anything. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to this woman, she told me that she

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<v Speaker 1>was a medium, and as soon as she said that,

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<v Speaker 1>I could feel my eyes wanting to roll. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was what she said that really caught me off guard.

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<v Speaker 1>She asked if anyone had ever seen a ghost in

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<v Speaker 1>the building, to which I honestly answered yes. She then

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<v Speaker 1>said that there were two spirits. One was a man

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in a suit, probably from around the nineteen thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>and she felt that he was something like a headmaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I knew that this was correct. A head master

419
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 1>had indeed died in the school in the nineteen thirties

420
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 1>of a heart attack. But then she went on to

421
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>tell me about the second spirit, and this was quite disturbing.

422
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>She said that there was a very dark and oppressive atmosphere,

423
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 1>an atmosphere that could take different forms, that could influence

424
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:01.359
<v Speaker 1>its surroundings. But it wasn't something that was born from

425
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the passing of a person. This atmosphere was brought into

426
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 1>the hall. By this time there was hardly anyone around,

427
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>but I was so intrigued that I had to find

428
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>out more. How could this thing have been brought into

429
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 1>the hall? The medium said that it could have been

430
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 1>attached to something like a piece of furniture, an item

431
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>of jewelry, or a person. Yet she felt that this

432
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.799
<v Speaker 1>spirit had been in the building for a long time. Now,

433
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.920
<v Speaker 1>this made a lot of sense to me, the feelings

434
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>of dark atmospheres. But there was more. We spoke a

435
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>little further than she left. Over the years that I've

436
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>worked here, there have been so many people, counsel employees

437
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.319
<v Speaker 1>and members of the public that have seen a dark,

438
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>shadowy figure, a shape, a mass, and while I've never

439
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 1>actually seen anything, I believe I felt it. Tom stopped

440
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:02.039
<v Speaker 1>there and said again that he understood if I wanted

441
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:06.839
<v Speaker 1>to leave the position, but to seriously consider us. Nobody

442
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>had ever come to any harm. We chatted a little

443
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>while longer before I finally put Tom out of his misery.

444
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I told him that I wanted to stay in the job.

445
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely enjoyed it, and in a strange way, it

446
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>was exciting. It was a few weeks before the next

447
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 1>thing happened, but it wasn't me who would have the experience.

448
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 1>It was my husband. The scenario couldn't have been more innocent.

449
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Tammy had been looking after a party the previous evening,

450
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 1>but went home without cleaning up due to sickness. She

451
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 1>gave me a call the following morning and told me

452
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>about the situation, warning me that the hall in kitchen

453
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.759
<v Speaker 1>would need tidying up. It looked like she got food

454
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:54.039
<v Speaker 1>poisoning and wouldn't be in for a while. I was

455
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 1>totally fine about this and reassured her that I would

456
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>get in asap. And get the place sorted at. I

457
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>drafted him my husband to help, much to his annoyance

458
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>as he was planning to play golf, but he grudgingly

459
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 1>he agreed to come with me and give me a hand.

460
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 1>We arrived at the hall at around eleven a m.

461
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.279
<v Speaker 1>And I opened up and immediately put the kettle on

462
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.359
<v Speaker 1>to make us both a drink. My husband went into

463
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the hall and started to tidy up the rubbish from

464
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the tables. We made good progress, slowly but surely getting

465
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.039
<v Speaker 1>through the list of jobs. I began to take the

466
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>bin bags of rubbish out to the industrial bins outside

467
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>while my husband carried on inside. I shuttled the bags

468
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to the entrance, then moved them to the bins. I

469
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:41.359
<v Speaker 1>was probably outside for a matter of a couple of

470
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 1>minutes when my husband came out, looking very out of sorts.

471
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>He started to move the bags to the bin very quietly.

472
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I asked if he was okay, and he just said yes,

473
00:30:54.440 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>nothing else. Something was wrong, very wrong. I sped and

474
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>held his hands and they were shaking. I asked him again,

475
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>are you sure you're okay? He looked at me and paused,

476
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>then said, I think I've just seen a ghost. I

477
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 1>was shocked, to say the least, but I knew that

478
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 1>he was telling the truth. If there was one thing

479
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that my husband wouldn't do, it's fabricate stories. I asked

480
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>him if he'd come back into the community hall, just

481
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>into the kitchen and I'd make us a drink. He agreed,

482
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 1>but said that he didn't think he could go back

483
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 1>into the main hall. We had a coffee and he

484
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.839
<v Speaker 1>told me what had happened. He said he could hear

485
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 1>me moving the bim bags from the entrance, and so

486
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 1>just carried on collapsing the tables down and stacking them up,

487
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.759
<v Speaker 1>ready to move them to the storage areas either side

488
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 1>of the stage, when he heard footsteps coming from behind him,

489
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>very definite, loud footsteps which moved from the stage area,

490
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:04.079
<v Speaker 1>passed my husband and went towards the double doors. He

491
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>said that he could literally track where the footsteps were going,

492
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 1>they were that clear, and as they got to the doors,

493
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 1>they stopped. And that was when it appeared. From nowhere,

494
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>a black cloudlike mass began to take shape, the darkest

495
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 1>black that my husband said he had ever seen. Jeez,

496
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. He said, it seemed to take form

497
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 1>from everywhere quickly coming together to form the shape of

498
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:35.319
<v Speaker 1>a person in some sort of cloak or hood, similar

499
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to a monk. It then moved from the doors, floating

500
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>silently towards the stage, passing within a few feet of

501
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 1>my husband, who was frightened, stiff, and glued to the spot.

502
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 1>My husband said he watched this black, cloudy mass get

503
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to the stage and then fade away. It was then

504
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that he said he panicked and got outside as quickly

505
00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:01.599
<v Speaker 1>as possible. I asked sim if he felt comfortable enough

506
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to go back into the hall with me, we could

507
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 1>both finish up sticking together and not letting each other

508
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 1>out of our sights, and then we could leave. I

509
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>assured him that if he didn't want to, I could

510
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>give Tom a call and ask him to come down.

511
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>My husband didn't want to disturb Tom and told me

512
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 1>that each stay until we finished, but he wasn't to

513
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 1>be left alone in that hall. Whatever this thing was,

514
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>it had really shaken him up and got to him. Now.

515
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I have to say straight away that there was no

516
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>way that he could have known about any of the

517
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 1>other incidents that Tom and I had spoken about. He

518
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there, and I didn't speak to him about them,

519
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>so he had no idea, but he just described what

520
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the other witnesses had seen, a black shadowy vigor.

521
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 1>This experience changed my husband. It really affected him, worried him,

522
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 1>made him think about things in life which he'd normally

523
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>have just dismiss his own mortality. For instance, he'd come

524
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 1>back to the community hall on a regular basis to

525
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>help me out if I needed it, but he refused

526
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to be left alone. He simply admitted that he didn't

527
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>ever want to repeat of the experience, and he got

528
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 1>his wish. He never saw anything else again. It was

529
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a kind of strange setup because between Tammy, me and Tom,

530
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>we'd just carry on, never really discussing any sightings or

531
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>experiences we had. Occasionally we'd briefly mention things, but we'd

532
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 1>never have a full on conversation. Things continue to happen

533
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to me though. Noises such as footsteps were kind of

534
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.320
<v Speaker 1>regular thing, as well as doors opening and closing, voices,

535
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and cold atmospheres that could descend at any moment. But

536
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 1>one experience that I was involved with changed the life

537
00:34:55.599 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>of one particular person forever. He was on holiday, so

538
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Tom asked if I'd be interested in cleaning up after

539
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>a panto that had been put on by the local

540
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>amateur dramatics club. I jumped at the chance, partly because

541
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>it was a little more money, but mostly because I

542
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>could watch the panto for free. You have to get

543
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 1>your priorities right. The panto finished at around seven thirty pm,

544
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 1>and on this particular evening, my husband wasn't available to

545
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 1>pick me up as he was out at a function

546
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>at the golf club. He was a member of this

547
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:33.079
<v Speaker 1>club and had been for years. This wasn't a problem

548
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>at all, As I said, I was able to watch

549
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 1>a panto for free and earn some extra money. As

550
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>it was the last evening of this production, there was

551
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot to pack away as far as stage sets

552
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and equipment were concerned. I left this to the people

553
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.320
<v Speaker 1>who had put on the panto and just busied myself

554
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>doing bits and pieces, waiting for them to leave so

555
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 1>I could get chairs and things put away. By around

556
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.159
<v Speaker 1>nine pm, I was alone and did the usual thing

557
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of locking myself inside and getting on with the job

558
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>at hand. I got up onto the stage and pulled

559
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 1>the curtain back, exposing the large window on the back wall.

560
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.679
<v Speaker 1>I pulled on the rope and opened it wide to

561
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>let some fresh air into the hall. Looking back at

562
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the hall from the stage, I could see that I

563
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 1>still had lots to do. No point hanging around, I thought.

564
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Starting from the front of the stage, I began stacking

565
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:29.679
<v Speaker 1>the chairs and moving them back into storage using the

566
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 1>sack truck. I was around five or six rows in

567
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 1>when I heard a noise coming from the storage area

568
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 1>where I'd been taking the stacks of chairs. I'd wedged

569
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.519
<v Speaker 1>both doors open either side of the stage, and the

570
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>noise was definitely coming from the rooms to the left.

571
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:51.119
<v Speaker 1>It sounded as if someone was trying to break in

572
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>via the fire exit door. I could see it shaking,

573
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>so I shouted that I was going to call the police.

574
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm caring the place. The shaking stopped, but as I

575
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 1>walked back into the hall, there was an almighty bang

576
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 1>on the fire exit door. Then another one, but this

577
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 1>one sounded like it came from the front door. This

578
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>happened again, and I was getting more frightened and more

579
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 1>spooked than ever. It's one thing being afraid of the paranormal,

580
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's another being afraid of the threat from real

581
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>people who was trying to get in. I decided to

582
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 1>call Tom. The banging stopped, but Tom wasn't answering his phone.

583
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I went to the front doors and unlocked them, fully

584
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 1>expecting someone to be outside, but there wasn't anyone there.

585
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>The usual evening traffic was passing by and a few

586
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>people were walking down the road, but nothing at all

587
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.559
<v Speaker 1>out of the ordinary. But who was trying to get

588
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in through the fire exit. Although it was dark outside,

589
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 1>there was ample light from the street lights, and I

590
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>was beginning to feel brave, so I went to walk

591
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>to the back at the community hall to check out

592
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:07.119
<v Speaker 1>the fire exit door. Then my phone rang. It was

593
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Tom returning my call. He apologized for missing my call

594
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and asked if everything was okay. I told him what

595
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.519
<v Speaker 1>had happened, but I assured him that I was okay.

596
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 1>He asked if I wanted him to come down and

597
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.519
<v Speaker 1>help me finish up then drive me home, but I

598
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>said that it was fine, I'd call a taxi. I

599
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.280
<v Speaker 1>couldn't see anyone around by the fire exit, but I

600
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 1>didn't go all the way around the back of the building.

601
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I returned inside, locked myself in and kept my phone

602
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:39.079
<v Speaker 1>with me. Now I need to set the scene for

603
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>what was about to happen. At the rear of the

604
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>community building where the fire exit is located, is a

605
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.480
<v Speaker 1>walkway type barrier I'd say roughly twelve feet wide. You

606
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:52.559
<v Speaker 1>can use this to walk all the way around the

607
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 1>back of the building, returning to the opposite side and

608
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 1>back to the front. Along the length of this walkway

609
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 1>is a fence. Now, this fence was constructed of concrete

610
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 1>posts with a standard six foot panel which sat on

611
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.559
<v Speaker 1>top of a gravel board, so the combined height would

612
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>have been around seven feet. At the back of this

613
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>fence at the time was wasteland, but this has since

614
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:20.320
<v Speaker 1>been developed. Many of the local news would gather there

615
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:24.559
<v Speaker 1>and well, do what youws do. You got to know

616
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the various groups where they frequented, if they'd been in

617
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>trouble with the police, that sort of thing, And I'd

618
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.679
<v Speaker 1>never personally had any problems with any of them. However,

619
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>they did have a habit of climbing the fence at

620
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 1>the back of the community hall and using it as

621
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a shortcut to the main road. So going back to

622
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.519
<v Speaker 1>me locking myself in the hall for the second time

623
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.280
<v Speaker 1>that evening, I was at the front of the hall.

624
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't quite remember what I was doing, but a

625
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>creaking noise drew my attention to the large window at

626
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the back of the stage. As I focused on the window,

627
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to through the reflection of the hall coming back

628
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.280
<v Speaker 1>at me and outside, I caught a shape on top

629
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 1>of the fence. I began to walk towards the window,

630
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and as I got used to the reflection, I could

631
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 1>see the figure a person perched on top of the fence.

632
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:17.079
<v Speaker 1>It was one of the youngsters who would hang around

633
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>on the wasteland. I went back to the front of

634
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the hall and switched off the bank of lights on

635
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the stage, and this made things much clearer. I walked

636
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>back down towards the stage and was fully expecting him

637
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 1>to jump off the fence and run, but instead he

638
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:38.599
<v Speaker 1>just stayed there, staring. I shouted out something like if

639
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't move on, I'll call the place, but he

640
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>stayed there, staring, with a look of complete terror on

641
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>his face. It was then that I realized that he

642
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:52.639
<v Speaker 1>wasn't staring at me, he was staring at something behind me.

643
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I immediately got goosebumps and felt a terrible feeling of

644
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 1>dread and fear wash over meling itself to me. I

645
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:06.639
<v Speaker 1>turned around but saw nothing, but I definitely felt something.

646
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I remembered what Tom had said about him picking up

647
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>on very dark atmospheres in the building. Was this the

648
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 1>same dark, oppressive, ominous atmosphere. I turned back to the window,

649
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 1>and the young lad was still there, and he looked

650
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>utterly petrified. He dropped off the fence on to the

651
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>walkway and ran towards the main road. I'd had a

652
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.800
<v Speaker 1>really good look at him and thought I'd seen him

653
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 1>around the area a few times. He'd be easy to find,

654
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.519
<v Speaker 1>I thought. I got up onto the stage and went

655
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>over towards the window, pulled the rope and closed it up,

656
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:47.559
<v Speaker 1>then pulled the large curtain across. Then the lights went out.

657
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I stood on the stage, absolutely frozen, scared. Then for

658
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a split second, I thought that maybe it was a

659
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 1>power cut, And then I thought that it could be

660
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the youths playing a prank somehow, getting inside the building

661
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and switching off the lights. But I'd have heard the

662
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>doors open, and I knew they were locked. What little

663
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>light from the street lights barely made any difference, But

664
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I knew that I had to get off that stage

665
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and out of the building. I still had my phone

666
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:22.719
<v Speaker 1>in my hand should I call Tom again or the police.

667
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 1>But before I could even raise my hand to make

668
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a call, a blue light appeared in the middle of

669
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the hall. Very small at first, probably the size of

670
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>a golf ball. It was like an electrically charged ball

671
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.519
<v Speaker 1>of light. That's the only way I can describe it.

672
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't move again and watch as the light began

673
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to grow in size and get brighter and brighter. It

674
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 1>had to be around the size of a football, and

675
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 1>it was illuminating the entire hall with this amazing blue light.

676
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>It also began to give off a type of pulsing sensation.

677
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.639
<v Speaker 1>It's so difficult to describe, but it wasn't something that

678
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 1>you heard, but more felt as if waves of energy

679
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>were lightly hitting you, passing straight through your body, similar

680
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.639
<v Speaker 1>to how the ripples on a pond would spread out

681
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>after a stone is dropped. This ball of energy or

682
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>electricity or whatever it was, grew to the size of

683
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 1>a beach ball. Then, as quick as a flash, it

684
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.679
<v Speaker 1>rocketed towards the double doors of the hall, passing straight

685
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>through them. The incredibly strange thing was was that when

686
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.199
<v Speaker 1>you went through the doors, they moved slightly, as if

687
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>being influenced by the ball of light. The hall went

688
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.199
<v Speaker 1>instantly dark. Then a few seconds later all the strip

689
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 1>lights began to flicker back to life, returning the building

690
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>back to normal. I had no idea what I'd just

691
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 1>seen or experienced, no explanation for it, no reasoning for it.

692
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 1>I stood fixed to the spot for probably five or

693
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 1>ten minutes, any my composure, but also working out what

694
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.559
<v Speaker 1>to do next. I knew for a fact that I

695
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to continue that evening, but should I call

696
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Tom and tell him what had happened. I decided to

697
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>phone him, and I told him that everything was fine,

698
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 1>but I would finish up in the morning. He said

699
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.519
<v Speaker 1>this was absolutely fine, but before I ended the call,

700
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I asked him if he'd meet me at the community

701
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>center at nine a m. The following morning to give

702
00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:30.280
<v Speaker 1>me a hand. Again, this wasn't a problem, so the

703
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>call ended. I gathered my things, made sure all the

704
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>lights were off, locked everything up, and stood outside. I'd

705
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 1>called a taxi, and within around fifteen minutes I was

706
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 1>back home. I must admit that I didn't get much

707
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:48.519
<v Speaker 1>sleep that night at all. So many questions were swirling

708
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>around my head. What had I seen in the hall

709
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.199
<v Speaker 1>was it the spirit of the Headmaster. Was it the

710
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.800
<v Speaker 1>spirit of someone or something else? Was I at risk

711
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.199
<v Speaker 1>of being harmed by it? What would Tom think when

712
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I told him I was outside the community center at

713
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 1>around eight forty five a m. The following morning. A

714
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>few minutes later, Tom turned up and he unlocked the doors,

715
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>and we both went inside to find all of the

716
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>lights on and the double doors to the hall opened up.

717
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I swore to Tom that I'd made sure all of

718
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the lights were off and everything was secure. He assured

719
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>me that he had no doubt that I was telling

720
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the truth. It was then that I sat him down

721
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and told him what had gone on the previous evening,

722
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>which was the real reason behind me finishing early. Whilst

723
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.320
<v Speaker 1>he was shocked and concerned, I assured him that I

724
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:47.360
<v Speaker 1>was fine, a little shook up and in disbelief, but fine.

725
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>We both began to get to work and tidy up,

726
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and around an hour had gone by when there was

727
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>a knock on the main front doors. As usual, we'd

728
00:45:56.840 --> 00:46:00.280
<v Speaker 1>locked ourselves inside, but that didn't stop us both from

729
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 1>stopping in our tracks and staring at each other in silence.

730
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I can remember one of us asking if we should

731
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 1>answer the door. Then another series of knocks rang out.

732
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>We both went to the main doors and unlocked them,

733
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and standing outside was a young teenager dressed in jogging

734
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>bottoms and a hoodie, the same teenager that was on

735
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.679
<v Speaker 1>the fence the previous night. After what had happened with

736
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the appearance of the blue light. I had forgotten all

737
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>about him, but he said that he was the one

738
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 1>who I'd seen through the window and he wanted to

739
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>talk to me in private. He apologized several times for

740
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:41.599
<v Speaker 1>climbing the fence and running off, and said that he

741
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to scare me or cause any harm. We

742
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.760
<v Speaker 1>invited him inside the building and went to the kitchen

743
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 1>and all sat down. For the purposes of this story,

744
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll call this person Jamie. He sat in silence for

745
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>a short time, then asked again if we could talk

746
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>in private. He looked very uncomfortable and awkward, so I

747
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:05.280
<v Speaker 1>tried to reassure him that whatever he had to tell

748
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>me it would be okay. I also told him that

749
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Tom was a good friend and he wouldn't judge him

750
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>at all. Tom also told Jamie that anything he said

751
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>would be in complete confidence. Jamie then began to speak

752
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and what he told us, left me in complete shock.

753
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>He said that a few of his friends had been

754
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.039
<v Speaker 1>messing around on the waste land at the back of

755
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the building when they noticed the curtains being pulled back

756
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>from the window at the back of the stage. Jamie

757
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.199
<v Speaker 1>admitted that they were thinking of having a little fun

758
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.760
<v Speaker 1>at my expense by tapping on the window with a

759
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.039
<v Speaker 1>long stick. It turns out that he was volunteered by

760
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>his friends to play the prank, so he grabbed his

761
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.880
<v Speaker 1>stick and started to climb the fence. He said that

762
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.400
<v Speaker 1>as he managed to get to the top and steady himself,

763
00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>he could clearly see me wandering around inside the hall,

764
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>but dropped the stick before he could start. There was

765
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of hushed laughter from his friends, apparently, and

766
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.079
<v Speaker 1>he said that he was in hysterics himself until he

767
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>looked back through the window. He said that in front

768
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>of the double doors at the opposite end of the hall,

769
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.320
<v Speaker 1>a dark, cloudy fog started to appear. It began to

770
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:24.159
<v Speaker 1>take shape into what Jamie described as a shadow man, tall,

771
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 1>taller than the double doors, wider than any adult he'd

772
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.400
<v Speaker 1>ever seen. There were no distinct features to this figure,

773
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 1>such as a face or hands, it was just a large, dark, smoky,

774
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.639
<v Speaker 1>foggy figure. Jamie said that he couldn't believe what he

775
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 1>was seeing, and his friends were asking what was wrong,

776
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>but he didn't answer them. He just continued to watch

777
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.559
<v Speaker 1>this frightening shadow figure. He said that it began to

778
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>move slowly towards the stage and me, But Jamie said

779
00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:58.280
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't seem to be aware of what was

780
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>behind me. Instead, I was more concerned about who was

781
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.639
<v Speaker 1>on the fence outside. He said that he saw me

782
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>walk towards the double doors, and the shadow figure moved

783
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to the side and then followed me. I then switched

784
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.679
<v Speaker 1>off the lights on the stage and walked back towards

785
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the window, and Jamie said that the figure continued to

786
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>follow behind me. He said that as I stood there again,

787
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>staring out of the window at him, the figure began

788
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:30.360
<v Speaker 1>to grow behind me. It got taller, wider, darker, until

789
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>it was so large that Jamie thought it would completely

790
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.760
<v Speaker 1>swallow me, which was when he panicked and dropped from

791
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the fence and ran. He was adamant that what he

792
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 1>saw was real, but I never saw anything yet I

793
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 1>truly believed what he was saying. Why would he have

794
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:50.599
<v Speaker 1>come back to the hall to speak to me specifically.

795
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Why did he run away that evening? Why did he

796
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:57.119
<v Speaker 1>have a look of complete terror on his face as

797
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.519
<v Speaker 1>he watched this shadow figure move around the hall. I

798
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 1>told Jamie about what I'd seen after he dropped from

799
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the fence and ran, and he was gobsmacked. But what

800
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>have we both encountered? A few weeks went by and

801
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:15.719
<v Speaker 1>things still happened. Mugs and cups would move, noises and

802
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.159
<v Speaker 1>voices would be heard on a regular basis. It was

803
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>as if the activity was somehow ramping up in frequency,

804
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:26.320
<v Speaker 1>but what was causing it? I even felt the sensation

805
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.880
<v Speaker 1>of something breathing down my ear one morning, and that

806
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a pleasant experience at all. I can remember it

807
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.400
<v Speaker 1>like it was yesterday, and me telling whatever it was

808
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to leave me alone, leave me alone. It was after

809
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>this incident that a chance meeting took place in the

810
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 1>local supermarket. I say chance meeting, but something influenced it.

811
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred percent certain of that now. As I

812
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>was wandering around the various aisles, I kept noticing a

813
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.880
<v Speaker 1>woman loosely following me around the door. She looked in

814
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:06.159
<v Speaker 1>her sixties, beginning to ring any bells. Yet as I

815
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 1>left the supermarket, she followed me outside and called out

816
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to me, excuse me, she said. I stopped and turned around.

817
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.599
<v Speaker 1>She asked if I was the caretaker at the community center,

818
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.559
<v Speaker 1>and I confirmed that I was. She then asked if

819
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:25.079
<v Speaker 1>the other man who worked there had seen anything yet

820
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I assumed she meant Tom. I asked who she was

821
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>talking about and what she meant. She said she was

822
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a medium who'd been at a party a few years

823
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.559
<v Speaker 1>ago and she'd had a conversation with the man who

824
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.000
<v Speaker 1>was looking after the building at the time. Ever since

825
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that night, whenever she was in town, she would simply

826
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 1>walk past the building and feel the evil inside her words.

827
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:55.199
<v Speaker 1>So this was the medium that Tom had spoken about.

828
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>She asked if we could go somewhere to talk, and

829
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.119
<v Speaker 1>while I agreed to go to a coffee shop with her,

830
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I have to admit that I had my doubts about

831
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:07.599
<v Speaker 1>her being a medium, being able to see and contact

832
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 1>the other side. It wasn't something that I attributed any

833
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>level of authenticity to. As we sat there sipping our coffee,

834
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.639
<v Speaker 1>she said that she knew I'd had experiences. She could

835
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.760
<v Speaker 1>feel it, and she also said that the dark spirit

836
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:26.519
<v Speaker 1>which brought fear to the building, had made itself known

837
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to me. This was certainly true, but I hadn't actually

838
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>seen it, But I had seen that strange blue light.

839
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 1>The medium who will call Kelly said that the blue

840
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:41.079
<v Speaker 1>light was the energy of a spirit who was trapped

841
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:45.280
<v Speaker 1>in the building, the man in the suit the headmaster,

842
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and he couldn't move on until the dark spirit, or

843
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the elemental as she started calling it, was either calmed

844
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 1>down or banished completely. She asked if she could come

845
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>along to the community Hall at the quickest available moment

846
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:04.800
<v Speaker 1>to help bring peace to the building and the spirits within.

847
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Now many would have thought me mad for even considering this,

848
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:12.639
<v Speaker 1>but many people would have thought me mad for admitting

849
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:15.719
<v Speaker 1>to what I'd seen too. But for some out of

850
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:18.840
<v Speaker 1>this world reason, I agreed to take her to the hall,

851
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.639
<v Speaker 1>but only if Tom agreed to let her inside. I

852
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 1>called Tom there and then and explained that I was

853
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 1>having a coffee with his medium friend who he'd met

854
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a few years ago. As soon as I mentioned her,

855
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.559
<v Speaker 1>he remembered and amazingly agreed to let her inside the building,

856
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.519
<v Speaker 1>but only on one condition that he was there as well.

857
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 1>He didn't want a situation on his hands, which could

858
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.599
<v Speaker 1>get back to any council workers and landers in Trumple

859
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever this medium was going to do. Tom was sure

860
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:54.159
<v Speaker 1>that no employee of the local council would believe, let

861
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:57.559
<v Speaker 1>alone agree to let this strange woman inside the town's

862
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:01.639
<v Speaker 1>community center to calm and cleanse the building of its

863
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.960
<v Speaker 1>resident spirits. Even typing this now makes me understand reactions

864
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>from skeptics, but that's exactly what I was before all

865
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:14.519
<v Speaker 1>of this. Kelly said she needed a few things from

866
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 1>home which would help with the cleansing ritual which she

867
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.519
<v Speaker 1>was going to perform in the hall, So the three

868
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:22.880
<v Speaker 1>of us agreed to meet up the following morning at

869
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:27.360
<v Speaker 1>nine am. When she mentioned the word ritual, I did

870
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.559
<v Speaker 1>seriously have doubts about letting her back inside the building.

871
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:34.320
<v Speaker 1>What if what she was going to do made the

872
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:38.400
<v Speaker 1>whole situation worse. My husband thought I was mad when

873
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I told him what we were going to do the

874
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.039
<v Speaker 1>next day. Hearing advice from him like you don't know

875
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:47.559
<v Speaker 1>what you're messing around with was certainly strange to hear,

876
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:51.599
<v Speaker 1>but he was correct. I personally had no clue what

877
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:55.320
<v Speaker 1>was going to happen. I got to the community center

878
00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>at around eight forty five am the next morning, and

879
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:00.840
<v Speaker 1>as I was the first one there, I opened up.

880
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.360
<v Speaker 1>But as I put the key into the lock to

881
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>unlock the door, it suddenly swung open. It was Tom,

882
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 1>but there seemed to be something wrong, something off. He

883
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.280
<v Speaker 1>gave me an envelope and said that due to cuts,

884
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the council were letting me go with immediate effect. I

885
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 1>was stunned, completely side swaped. What had I done? Was

886
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>there an explanation? Was it to do with what I'd

887
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:32.360
<v Speaker 1>organized with Kelly? He didn't explain, just asked for my

888
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 1>set of keys. This was not the polite, good natured,

889
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>kind in caring Tom that I knew from my time

890
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:43.119
<v Speaker 1>working at the community center. This was someone else. It

891
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 1>just didn't make sense. I asked if I could come

892
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>inside to at least talk about the situation, but he refused,

893
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 1>saying that he'd been told not to let me into

894
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the building. Then I heard a voice from inside, a

895
00:55:56.039 --> 00:56:01.559
<v Speaker 1>female voice, the voice of Kelly. Lock the door, come

896
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 1>back inside. I asked what was going on, but got

897
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.639
<v Speaker 1>the coldest stare I'd ever seen from Tom, and with

898
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that he closed the door. I immediately went back home,

899
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:19.039
<v Speaker 1>completely lost for words, but also very very frightened. Something

900
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.840
<v Speaker 1>way beyond my understanding was going on here, and there

901
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:23.599
<v Speaker 1>was no way that I was going to kick the

902
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 1>hornet's nest and make things worse. There was one thing

903
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I was going to do, however, called Tammy quickly. I

904
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>opened the letter which Tom had given to me, and

905
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.360
<v Speaker 1>everything looked official. It was even signed by the person

906
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 1>who interviewed me. I called Tammy and she picked up

907
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 1>the phone. She sounded as normal as always, so I

908
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:48.000
<v Speaker 1>began to tell her what had happened. She said that

909
00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:50.920
<v Speaker 1>she'd also received a letter in the post that very morning,

910
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:55.280
<v Speaker 1>explaining that she'd been let go because of budgetary reasons,

911
00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 1>that internal sources were being assigned the duties that we

912
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.199
<v Speaker 1>used to take care of, and she was to return

913
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:06.119
<v Speaker 1>her set of keys at the quickest convenient moment. She

914
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:08.679
<v Speaker 1>also said that whatever was going on, it must have

915
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:12.960
<v Speaker 1>been planned weeks previously, because her working hours were slowly

916
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.920
<v Speaker 1>but surely dropping off, and she had no idea why,

917
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:20.639
<v Speaker 1>but didn't take too much notice. I had to admit

918
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.079
<v Speaker 1>that my hours had also been slowly reducing, but as

919
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Tammy pointed out, you just don't think too much of it.

920
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:31.199
<v Speaker 1>After all, we were only part time anyway, and that

921
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>is where the story ends, sudden and with no explanation.

922
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I would continue to see Tom around town every now

923
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>and then, but there was never conversation, just quick acknowledgment.

924
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:47.599
<v Speaker 1>I kept in touch with Tammy for a while, but

925
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 1>even that slowly eroded away over time. My husband was

926
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:54.119
<v Speaker 1>the only one person who felt the same way as

927
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:57.039
<v Speaker 1>I did that there was some sort of ulterior motive

928
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 1>behind what had happened, a darker, more sinister reason, but

929
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 1>something that will never find out. It sounded like an

930
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>episode of The X Files unfolding in a small town

931
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 1>in the north of England, and I can fully understand

932
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.519
<v Speaker 1>many people simply turning their backs and rubbishing this whole story.

933
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.519
<v Speaker 1>But it happened. Not long after all of this took place,

934
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.559
<v Speaker 1>we both decided the change was what we both needed,

935
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:27.599
<v Speaker 1>big change, so we sold up and moved to the

936
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Devonshire Coast and fully embraced retirement. I have to say

937
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that we're both loving life, tending to our garden, going

938
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:41.199
<v Speaker 1>on walks and getting involved with the local community, a

939
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>far cry from the life that we were embroiled in

940
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>back up north. I'm also happy to say that I've

941
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:51.679
<v Speaker 1>had no other strange, paranormal or supernatural experiences since moving,

942
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.559
<v Speaker 1>and neither my husband nor myself are in any rush

943
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:58.679
<v Speaker 1>to have any repeats of what went on years ago.

944
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.519
<v Speaker 1>It's here in my little conservatory that I listened to

945
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:06.159
<v Speaker 1>your podcast, and it's here where I decided to tell

946
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you my story. Whether it's believed or not is of

947
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 1>no concern to me. I'm just happy to have finally

948
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:18.960
<v Speaker 1>shared it. Keep up the great work. All the very best,

949
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Jan Well. First of all, I have to thank Jan

950
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:28.000
<v Speaker 1>for her incredible bravery for sending in her story to

951
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 1>the show. As with every story we receive from our listeners,

952
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.079
<v Speaker 1>we're so humbled and grateful that you have the confidence

953
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:39.119
<v Speaker 1>in us to be able to share your experiences. As

954
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:42.639
<v Speaker 1>with the wishes of Jan, all sensitive information such as

955
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.679
<v Speaker 1>names and places have either been changed or left out

956
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:50.119
<v Speaker 1>entirely because, as Jan put it, there's no point kicking

957
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:55.639
<v Speaker 1>the hornets nest. So what happened here? What exactly was

958
00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:59.599
<v Speaker 1>inside that building? And why did the medium, if that's

959
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.920
<v Speaker 1>what he really was, have such a vested interest in it?

960
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I do have one theory. It's a little out there,

961
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 1>but here goes was the dark spirit inside the community

962
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Hall something which had been summoned by some sort of

963
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Dare I say it a cult type ritual performed by

964
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:22.559
<v Speaker 1>a select group of people, maybe even involving a number

965
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:27.119
<v Speaker 1>of council officials? Has the medium been involved all along?

966
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Tom had mentioned his first meeting with her back at

967
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 1>the wedding reception, But was this just to keep Jan

968
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:38.480
<v Speaker 1>calm and quiet after the incident with the shadow figure

969
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:43.199
<v Speaker 1>seen by the teenager? Had things become too complicated? It

970
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 1>seemed that as the experiences and witnesses slowly racked up,

971
01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the decision to pull the plug, so to speak, and

972
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:54.639
<v Speaker 1>bring things back under control was triggered. But for what purpose?

973
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:59.440
<v Speaker 1>As with many elements and threads of the paranormal and

974
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 1>this story, we'll probably never know. But I do think

975
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Jan did the right thing, stayed away, didn't kick that

976
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:12.440
<v Speaker 1>hornet's nest, because who knows what could have happened. So

977
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.239
<v Speaker 1>all that is left to say is that it's over

978
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 1>to you. What do you think happened? What theories do

979
01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:23.159
<v Speaker 1>you have? And have you experienced anything like this before?

980
01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:28.159
<v Speaker 1>If you have, or you somehow recognize the places in

981
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:31.119
<v Speaker 1>this story where these events happened, and you want to

982
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:34.639
<v Speaker 1>share your experiences then get in touch with the show.

983
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Were you ever in that community center? Did you sense

984
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:43.559
<v Speaker 1>evil spirits more than any kind of community spirit? Did

985
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.639
<v Speaker 1>you ever see the hooded figure by stacked chairs and

986
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:50.880
<v Speaker 1>collapsed tables, see a mysterious ball of blue light float

987
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:55.239
<v Speaker 1>through the serving hatch? Ever banned from the premises because

988
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you were getting maybe too close to the truth. If so,

989
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we want to hear from you, because the next person

990
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 1>to feature in a dedicated Listener episode could be you.

991
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:16.679
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