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Speaker 1: the three Whiskey Happy Hour with your bartenders Steve Hayward,
Speaker 1: John You, and power Lines International Woman of Mystery Lucretia.
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Speaker 3: Well, Hi everybody, and welcome to a special election night
Speaker 3: edition of the three four or five Whiskey Happy Hour,
Speaker 3: because we're gonna have Scott Johnson and hopefully John Hinderocker
Speaker 3: joining us. Scott is here, John, if he's not jet
Speaker 3: lag from flying back from Paris last night, we'll join us. John.
Speaker 3: You will be at half an hour late, but here
Speaker 3: we are. Election night, and uh, I'm sorry we're coming.
Speaker 3: I'm so late for those of you in the Midwest
Speaker 3: and East. But you know, we thought it was going
Speaker 3: to be a close knight, but it's shaping up as
Speaker 3: a pretty good night for Trump. So even Scott is happy.
Speaker 3: What just say, Scott?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 3: Well, you know the New York Times right now has
Speaker 3: Trump at an eighty three percent chance of winning the lesson.
Speaker 4: I've been watching Fox News all night and I have
Speaker 4: to say, I haven't understood what's happening, but I thought
Speaker 4: to check the New York Times homepage, and I see
Speaker 4: like Trump is a probable winner.
Speaker 5: No one, no one seems to have the nerve to
Speaker 5: say that over on Fox News.
Speaker 3: Or anywhere else. Yeah, right, I don't know. Oh I
Speaker 3: think they are. I mean, you know I have been so.
Speaker 3: First of all, I'll just make this observation. I did
Speaker 3: look around at some of the network and discussion panels CNN, ABC, NBC,
Speaker 3: and they were all stupid. It was all the usual cliches,
Speaker 3: but the usual washed up politicians. I saw Claire mccaskell
Speaker 3: on NBC, she doesn't know anything. And then I watched
Speaker 3: Henry Olsen, who's doing this monologue for hours on Twitter.
Speaker 3: And you know, Henry follows the numbers and he's very cautious,
Speaker 3: and he's saying it just bad news for Harris. Everywhere
Speaker 3: he looks good news for Trump. Marino's gonna win the
Speaker 3: Senate race for Republicans in Ohio, and he'll he does
Speaker 3: it very granularly, of course, And so you know when
Speaker 3: Henry is talking like that, now he doesn't call things,
Speaker 3: but he just says, look, it looks bad for Harris,
Speaker 3: and when Henry talks like that, that's when you want
Speaker 3: to smile and cheer up. And the contrast between someone
Speaker 3: like Henry and his other people a few anyway, the
Speaker 3: contrast between that and the low quality of the high
Speaker 3: production value networks is really jarring.
Speaker 6: I'll just say that, wait, Steve Maya really quickly, just
Speaker 6: because people are asking the in the chat that I'm
Speaker 6: looking at right now. At the New York Times needle page,
Speaker 6: Trump is an eighty three percent chance of victory. Some
Speaker 6: of their interesting things though, two hundred and ninety six
Speaker 6: to two hundred and forty two Electoral College estimate, popular
Speaker 6: vote estimate, Trump up by point eight, Trump up by
Speaker 6: point eight. And let's see every single one of the
Speaker 6: seven battleground states. Sixty percent r for Nevada, sixty one
Speaker 6: percent for Pennsylvania, sixty one percent for Wisconsin, sixty five
Speaker 6: percent for Michigan, seventy six percent for Arizona, eighty eight
Speaker 6: percent for North Carolina, and ninety five percent for Georgia.
Speaker 6: Chances of Republican winning the state or Trump depending.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't heard that anywhere else.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm just time for that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, New York Times needle I actually put it's in
Speaker 6: the chat. The actual link to it is in the chat.
Speaker 3: Well, and it all depends on how heavily California and
Speaker 3: the West Coast comes in for Harris, which doesn't I
Speaker 3: mean it counts, but it doesn't count in a larger
Speaker 3: sense of you know, there's isolated states. Let me make
Speaker 3: three or four observations, which you guys can grab hold
Speaker 3: of and pick anyone you want. First. One of the
Speaker 3: interesting signs early in the evening was a report from
Speaker 3: Harry's Bar and American Grill over in Paris, you famous
Speaker 3: old expat spot. They do a straw pole of Americans.
Speaker 3: It's funny. You have to have an id topprove you're
Speaker 3: an American, which means they have stricter voting rules at
Speaker 3: a Paris bar than in many American states. Okay, so
Speaker 3: they do a straw pole. It's apparently they've done this
Speaker 3: for you know, twenty two elections, so that's a long time,
Speaker 3: sixty years whatever it turns out to. And the result
Speaker 3: was Trump won by about fifty votes, which shocked all
Speaker 3: the Parisians and many of the Americans. And by the way,
Speaker 3: they've something like you know, twenty out of twenty two
Speaker 3: previous races, right, So that's kind of a funny little thing. Second,
Speaker 3: the women's vote, which was supposed to be so big
Speaker 3: for Harris. There is a big gender gap, but it's
Speaker 3: not coming in big enough for Harris. That's an interesting point.
Speaker 6: Can I stop before you go any further?
Speaker 7: Really quick?
Speaker 3: Stay?
Speaker 6: My favorite thing on Twitter today was someone pointing out
Speaker 6: that Harris is after the women's vote, Obama's going after
Speaker 6: the men's vote on behalf of Kamala, ding Dong, Gamala
Speaker 6: and ding Dong. However, none of them, none of them
Speaker 6: seem to think that there's any problem with there only
Speaker 6: being two genders in this case, and none of them
Speaker 6: are actually appealing quite strongly to the other non binary,
Speaker 6: non women, non men.
Speaker 7: What's a woman vote?
Speaker 3: Well, one of my favorite tweets of the day, and
Speaker 3: I didn't save it, unfortunately, was the person who said,
Speaker 3: people say they're voting for abortion rights for their daughters,
Speaker 3: what about their sons?
Speaker 6: What about their sons?
Speaker 7: Exactly?
Speaker 6: I think I sent that to you, Steve.
Speaker 3: You might have been a busy days. The one thing
Speaker 3: is the Florida Abortion Initiative will win the majority, but
Speaker 3: not the sixty percent required for it to be enacted.
Speaker 3: But the important thing there is not the actual numbers
Speaker 3: that it failed under their standard, but that there's a
Speaker 3: decoupling between abortion sentiment and the votes for other offices. Right,
Speaker 3: So maybe just in the ordinary political sense, and you know,
Speaker 3: our friends like have the orchist are mad at us
Speaker 3: for not at you more than me, maybe for Lucreatieff
Speaker 3: were saying, gosh, Trump was shrewd and politically prude about
Speaker 3: the way he approached this issue. Okay, right, exactly, I
Speaker 3: mean to be continued. I will mention that this morning
Speaker 3: I watched maybe you did too, Scott. I watched Mark
Speaker 3: Halpern's Two Way, which is what a great thing. And
Speaker 3: if you watched it today, Scott, maybe you saw those
Speaker 3: two young women he had on who said they've been
Speaker 3: lifelong Democrats. Were life long or thirty right or twenty
Speaker 3: eight New York and La women right, and one was
Speaker 3: a law student. They both said, I've always been a Democrat,
Speaker 3: I've voted for Democrats. I'm voting for Trump. They're both
Speaker 3: very pro choice, by the way, and that's the point,
Speaker 3: is right, but that's not the main issue for them,
Speaker 3: And so that decoupling I think is something emerging. In
Speaker 3: other words, the abortion issue has not worked for Democrats.
Speaker 3: From Lauren's yes, yes that was her name, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 5: Very moved by her. Yes, she really touched me.
Speaker 4: She was a non Jewish supporter of Israel and Jewish
Speaker 4: people who was revolted.
Speaker 5: By the Democrats silence about the Jews.
Speaker 3: That was the next, right, sorry, son, Yeah, no, that's everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I just wondered if if that was this morning.
Speaker 5: I've been trying to keep up with Alfred.
Speaker 3: Right that was that struck me a lot too, says
Speaker 3: I'm not even Jewish, but Kamela is unacceptably weak on
Speaker 3: the Israel question. And I thought that was very interesting.
Speaker 3: Now you did have Scott, you probably saw them. A
Speaker 3: couple of people came on and said, you know, I
Speaker 3: voted for Trump before were considered Trump, but January sixth
Speaker 3: bothers me. And I'm curious as to how many people
Speaker 3: that actually applied to I don't know. And that gets
Speaker 3: me to the exit polls. So the exit polls started
Speaker 3: coming out at one o'clock Pacific, four o'clock Eastern, and
Speaker 3: what they said was, oh, the leading issue for people
Speaker 3: was threats to democracy. And number two is the economy.
Speaker 3: And my first thought was, if you know what exit
Speaker 3: polls are done. They present you with a list of
Speaker 3: questions and in other words, they pre select the issues
Speaker 3: you're supposed to select from from what determines your vote.
Speaker 3: So threats to democracy is something the media invented, by
Speaker 3: the way, I don't think that cuts one hundred percent
Speaker 3: for Democrats. I think a lot of voters would say,
Speaker 3: you know, threats to democracy could be Democrats. That's what
Speaker 3: someone on the Chatterred just pointed out. I think that's right,
Speaker 3: But they're not asking what I think is the sleeper
Speaker 3: issue is wokery, you know, the trans issues. Did they
Speaker 3: ask any voters about that? I bet not? And we're
Speaker 3: gonna have to rely on the sort of wider with
Speaker 3: the voter survey panel that goes on for the next
Speaker 3: three weeks, which actually does get into some of the
Speaker 3: tertiary issues, and I'll bet we're going to find out
Speaker 3: that that was a bigger issue that all the networks
Speaker 3: tonight are not going to mention.
Speaker 4: Of course, Steve, where was that list of issues obtain from?
Speaker 4: Is that a Fox News dealer or something else?
Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question. Scott. I tried to find
Speaker 3: out that, by the way, there are now two different
Speaker 3: exopole consortiums. There used to be just one that CBS
Speaker 3: started what fifty years ago, and now Fox does it
Speaker 3: with US. I forget who else? And the network AP
Speaker 3: is that right, could be AP and then yeah, so
Speaker 3: Fox doesn't with AP, and then the other networks still
Speaker 3: go with somebody else and then all the rest. I
Speaker 3: try to find out today what are the options they
Speaker 3: present voters coming out of the polls? And I couldn't
Speaker 3: find it on lie Now. I didn't spend more than
Speaker 3: about ten minutes.
Speaker 4: Looking for it, and I just I'm asking because i'd
Speaker 4: heard that thing about democracy being the preeminent issue that
Speaker 4: I did no where it came from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, Lucretia. Somebody says in the comment, and
Speaker 3: they're right that I'm talking too much, so say something.
Speaker 6: I said, So what else is new? I did? Actually,
Speaker 6: I'm having fun talking to the people in the chat.
Speaker 6: So these you know, they're all friends, most of them,
Speaker 6: most of them actually know who they are. I can't
Speaker 6: keep up, so that's wonderful. I'm actually a little bit
Speaker 6: confused about a few things that so while the New
Speaker 6: York Times is being very very bullish on Trump in
Speaker 6: some respects. They've got Virginia at a ninety five percent
Speaker 6: probability for Harris.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which he wins all the other The Blue Wall
Speaker 4: states they've got him up in Michigan in Wisconsin.
Speaker 6: But is that actually accurate about Virginia. I thought it
Speaker 6: was closer than that. I could be wrong, I mean
Speaker 6: I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: Often, but I think the AP called the Hill called Virginia. No,
Speaker 4: the Hill reports that the AP called Virginia for hair.
Speaker 6: Okay, well, that that would give her a better than
Speaker 6: ninety five percent chance.
Speaker 7: I suppose.
Speaker 5: Don't mention that either.
Speaker 6: You know, they're still suffering from their really bad calls
Speaker 6: last time, so I imagine they're being a little bit more careful,
Speaker 6: and they are almost at the point of being boring. Fortunately,
Speaker 6: I have a house full of people that are making
Speaker 6: all drinking and making a lot of fun of what's
Speaker 6: happening on Fox, including the you know, the Fox blondes
Speaker 6: and yeah who, by the way, all have exactly the
Speaker 6: same haircut now, every single one of them. That was
Speaker 6: pointed out to me, which is not my haircut, because
Speaker 6: as you know, I don't have a haircut. But anyway,
Speaker 6: I'm happy.
Speaker 7: I'm happy.
Speaker 6: I'm still concerned about Arizona because there are some pretty
Speaker 6: important things. There's a there's an abortion of constitutional amendment
Speaker 6: on the ballot in Arizona, and I'm told, I read
Speaker 6: I think we talked about this on the podcast last time,
Speaker 6: that sixty eight percent of Arizona's are likely to vote
Speaker 6: for it. I don't think it's that, but it is
Speaker 6: one of those things. How did you put it, decoupling, Steve,
Speaker 6: between what you vote for in terms of that one
Speaker 6: single policy and what you vote for otherwise, And I
Speaker 6: do I will say that, you know, I don't watch TV,
Speaker 6: but when i'm places that have television on, I see
Speaker 6: that the carry Lake ads are the anti carry Lake
Speaker 6: ads are just they're just horrific. I mean, they act
Speaker 6: like she's They really do practically call her hitler, and
Speaker 6: they call her in one ad, demon and satanic for
Speaker 6: her belief that abortion should be curtailed at fifteen weeks.
Speaker 6: And you know, it's just so I'm really hoping that
Speaker 6: that goes down, that the proposition goes down. But I
Speaker 6: believe in Arizona just takes fifty one percent of the vote,
Speaker 6: So it probably won't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Florida's sixty percent required, which is what it.
Speaker 6: Should be for a constitutional amendment, although you know, in
Speaker 6: these progressive states, constitutional amendments end up working just about
Speaker 6: like statutory amendments anyway. They just the only difference is
Speaker 6: they take more signatures to get them on the ballot,
Speaker 6: or more a larger percentage of the legislature to get
Speaker 6: them on the ballot. But then they're fifty one percent,
Speaker 6: which I think is stupid very much puts them in
Speaker 6: the category of electoral manipulation and Demagoguay, shall we say?
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, So a couple more things about tonight,
Speaker 3: which you know, my default position was it could be
Speaker 3: raised thing, then we'd be up all night or something
Speaker 3: like that, or fight it for weeks. It looks like
Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen. But of Scott, I was watching
Speaker 3: the Free Press gaggle and by the way, they were drinking,
Speaker 3: and we haven't talked about what we're drinking yet, Lucretia,
Speaker 3: but we'll wait for John Yu and maybe John Hinderocker,
Speaker 3: who I don't know, he's asleep, i'll bet, But Scott
Speaker 3: I on the on the Free Press gaggle, they had
Speaker 3: your cousin, Dean phillips On, and he said, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, mostly talked kind of like you'd expect as
Speaker 3: a public figure who ran against Biden. But he didn
Speaker 3: say a couple of interesting things. One was I thought revealing.
Speaker 3: He said he put in nicer than this, but the
Speaker 3: sentence was pretty close to saying, Kamala Harris spent a
Speaker 3: billion dollars to lose market share between her anointing and now.
Speaker 3: And he said it very nicely, but I thought that
Speaker 3: was kind of a little dig at all the people who,
Speaker 3: as you put it to us before he went on,
Speaker 3: stabbed him in the front. And then of course he
Speaker 3: made a point of saying he was for Harris because
Speaker 3: he's a loyal Democrat. But he said I agree with
Speaker 3: Trump on a lot of stuff, like the border. He
Speaker 3: mentioned the border, and they mentioned one other issue. I
Speaker 3: forget what it was now, but anyway, he was pretty good.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if you've talked to him, or
Speaker 3: if you want to comment on that or not talk
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 4: I'm close with Dean and his family, and he was
Speaker 4: over to break the fast on you and keep work.
Speaker 4: You know, it's fun to talk to him. He is candid.
Speaker 4: I don't agree with him about any political issues, but
Speaker 4: I admired his stepping forward to challenge Biden, and he
Speaker 4: did it in the most diplomatic way. But nevertheless they
Speaker 4: couldn't abide him, and I expressed my respect for him,
Speaker 4: and he did suffer, you know, politically as a result.
Speaker 4: He ended up the Democrats ginned up this heat, I
Speaker 4: would say, for him, and he ended up giving his
Speaker 4: giving out.
Speaker 5: He's not running for reelection.
Speaker 4: His congressional seat is going to be filled by an
Speaker 4: Yn named Kelly Morris. And I think in the election
Speaker 4: tonight in a suburban district that used to be Republican
Speaker 4: until the first Trump midterm and his his one Democrat
Speaker 4: and not returned, and that's Dean was the first Democrat
Speaker 4: to hold that seat quite a while. But I can't
Speaker 4: help but be proud of him for saying the things
Speaker 4: that Democrats wouldn't say in public. And at one point
Speaker 4: Dean said to me, you know, I still I still
Speaker 4: have my self respect.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure about my colleagues.
Speaker 4: And he was referring, I would say, you know, in
Speaker 4: that manner to his Democratic colleagues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, he well, let's let's put it
Speaker 3: this way, he got more primary votes than Kamala Harris did. Right.
Speaker 3: And then second, you know, Barry Weiss was, uh, she's
Speaker 3: very nice to him, but she was also pointed and
Speaker 3: she said, look, you know they lied to us about
Speaker 3: Joe Biden's condition for months, you know, years and months.
Speaker 3: The only person who stood up to it. And what
Speaker 3: he said was as well, look all politicians lie, trumplized
Speaker 3: to you. Kind of expect him to say that. I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, so he's being diplomatic back. But still I wonder, well,
Speaker 3: I'm actually this is a setup for what happened starting tomorrow,
Speaker 3: which is they're gonna blame Kambla Harris for being bad.
Speaker 3: They're gonna blame uh Joe Biden for not getting out
Speaker 3: a year ago as he should have. And I'm sitting
Speaker 3: here thinking, is anybody can then say Dean Phillips was right?
Speaker 3: After all?
Speaker 5: Pretty sure or not?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably right?
Speaker 7: How about RFK though, Well.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. Let's see what other news we got.
Speaker 3: I was waiting for John to get here before he
Speaker 3: went through our drinking rounds.
Speaker 6: But yeah, anyways, put in the in the uh, I
Speaker 6: have to give it to Jimmy Faala those not mine original.
Speaker 6: I'm not this clever. By the end of the night,
Speaker 6: Trump will have beaten more women than Doug Mhoff.
Speaker 3: Oh God, that's bad.
Speaker 6: Nobody's not alive in this place.
Speaker 7: Up a little.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you know, I thought we'd be coming on tonight,
Speaker 3: you know, late in the evening with things race or close.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen. I haven't seen only five percent of
Speaker 3: the voters in Minnesota.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm looking at the Times its Wisconsin has
Speaker 4: fifty seven percent and pathetic.
Speaker 6: Don't you think it'd be so great though, if Minnesota
Speaker 6: actually didn't vote for Kamalama Ding Dong and Tim Walls.
Speaker 6: Don't you think it'd be like the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 4: Well, when Walls one election for governor, I think the
Speaker 4: margin was eleven percent over eight a relatively weak Republican candidate,
Speaker 4: And when he won re election two years ago, it
Speaker 4: was down to seven percent against a much weaker Republican candidate.
Speaker 4: And I'm hoping that they carry Minnesota by less than
Speaker 4: seven percent. I mean, Walls was less than zero on
Speaker 4: the Democrat side, and what a what a terrible governor
Speaker 4: he's been. And uh, there's the expression in Spanish at
Speaker 4: zero to the left. I think that's what he's been
Speaker 4: at As a vice presidential.
Speaker 5: Candidate for Kamala.
Speaker 3: Yea Go Ahead.
Speaker 5: Her first big decision was, was Tim Walls unbelievable?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I wrote theous facetious column for the Freebeacon, Take my Governor.
Speaker 4: I wasn't thinking at the time the lieutenant governor with
Speaker 4: you know, it was facetious.
Speaker 5: But the lieutenant governor is even bettier than he is.
Speaker 4: And it's been so interesting to see him exposed as
Speaker 4: a compulsive liar, you know, within a month or two
Speaker 4: on the national stage, whereas you know, the hometown paper
Speaker 4: has not ceased the cheerleading for the past eight years
Speaker 4: he's been for him.
Speaker 3: Well the I mean, I don't know that. The weird
Speaker 3: thing about Minnesota is has not voted Republican now since
Speaker 3: Richard Nixon in nineteen seventy two. You might have been there,
Speaker 3: Scott today. It's twenty years ago nowur more. Gosh, Moore,
Speaker 3: I'm getting old. I remember coming to the Hubert Humphrey
Speaker 3: Institute at the University of Minnesota and saying, this is
Speaker 3: a strange place to be for a California Conservative act
Speaker 3: the only state that never voted for Ronald Reagan even once,
Speaker 3: and the audience erupted an applause. Right, it's typical. But
Speaker 3: you know, in twenty sixteen, Trump only lost Minnesota what
Speaker 3: two and a half points? I mean, it was really closed.
Speaker 5: That should have been a huge so many times George W.
Speaker 4: Bush only lost it by what half a percent or
Speaker 4: something like that, and Trump replicated that, but we've come close,
Speaker 4: but no cigar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well.
Speaker 6: I like George Spencer's question. Guys, I got to liven
Speaker 6: you two up a little.
Speaker 7: It's late. You got to get some energy.
Speaker 6: Any chance Biden resigns and creates the first female potus
Speaker 6: or is he just too bitter clinger? I mean, after all,
Speaker 6: Joe Biden also wore red today, just like Lucretia. I
Speaker 6: wonder if she worked for the same reason. And boy,
Speaker 6: am I wearing red tomorrow?
Speaker 3: You know, I've speculated about that. And on the one hand,
Speaker 3: it would be the magnanimous thing for Biden to do.
Speaker 3: And that's why it won't happen, because he's a mean, heady,
Speaker 3: narcissistic hack and he would like to be the person
Speaker 3: reputation is. See I told you so, I'm the only
Speaker 3: person who could be Trump, and you know, the historic
Speaker 3: opportunity to have the first one president, even for two months,
Speaker 3: I think will be beyond his capacity for magnanimity, if
Speaker 3: even chalk it up to magnanimity. So I don't think so.
Speaker 6: Although he could say that he prevented Trump from from
Speaker 6: printing out all those president for forty seventh president had
Speaker 6: some T shirts.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, there's a whole bunch of ways
Speaker 3: that could play out. I don't know. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought it was, you know, that would be an
Speaker 3: interesting thing to do. The other possibility here is that Trump,
Speaker 3: sorry Biden, is so obviously infirmed that he needs to go. So,
Speaker 3: by the way, I don't know if you followed this,
Speaker 3: you probably did. Election day is a great day for
Speaker 3: Hu to fire the defense minister.
Speaker 7: Go Abody cares today.
Speaker 3: Exactly who has been a big problem. And you know
Speaker 3: it's I guess there are a big protests in Israel
Speaker 3: last night or today or whatever, and that's a big
Speaker 3: bold move. And you know there's talk of okay, so
Speaker 3: ship gears here. It has been reported that Trump has
Speaker 3: talked to net Yahoo and said, please wind this whole
Speaker 3: business up by January twenty because I don't want to
Speaker 3: have to deal with it, which is green light to
Speaker 3: do whatever you want to do. And it'll be interesting
Speaker 3: to see what happens here in the next three months
Speaker 3: between now and Inauguration day, because I think the Israel
Speaker 3: was already rightly ignoring the Biden administration and now they
Speaker 3: have no reason to pay any attention to them at all.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 6: Justin says shared Brown is out. I can't joined it,
Speaker 6: but but I do want to mention to Scott quickly
Speaker 6: here that of all the blue states that New York
Speaker 6: Times is predicting a percentage win on for Harris, Minnesota
Speaker 6: is the lowest at sixty five percent, which is interesting.
Speaker 6: Now only nine percent of the vote in but there's
Speaker 6: other states with almost as few. I mean, they're predicting
Speaker 6: ninety five percent for Harris. In California, no precincts reporting,
Speaker 6: which is you know, to be expected. Have the closed
Speaker 6: polls even closed there yet? Steve, what time are they
Speaker 6: closing California.
Speaker 3: Eight o'clock, which is five minutes from now?
Speaker 6: So no, it's not yeah, it's an hour from now.
Speaker 3: Well, no, it's it's it's five minutes to eight you're
Speaker 3: you're in remember you're now in Mountain Times.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, you know what this? Since Steve Jobs died,
Speaker 6: my my Apple products are no longer fool proof and
Speaker 6: my my computer is not updated the time it says
Speaker 6: seven to fifty six right now, go figure.
Speaker 3: That's what it is. And here in California.
Speaker 7: Okay, I know, but I'm not in California. It should
Speaker 7: know better.
Speaker 3: We have this constant problem that that Lucretia is in
Speaker 3: Arizona which never changes his time.
Speaker 6: And that's a problem for the rest of the world,
Speaker 6: not for Arizona. Thank you very much. Tell me you
Speaker 6: wouldn't rather not change time? It has absolutely zero negative
Speaker 6: effect on Arizonans and it has a negative effect on
Speaker 6: the rest of the world.
Speaker 3: Okay. Anonymous Mike, who comments a lot on the power
Speaker 3: on Threads, looks like he's about the post on Florida.
Speaker 3: I know he is one of them. That was wonderful.
Speaker 3: Here a couple of things to observe about today. Trump's
Speaker 3: this has not surprise me. And I can explain why
Speaker 3: Trump's improvement in the black vote was modest, I'll put
Speaker 3: it that way. Still some but not as optimistic as
Speaker 3: some people thought. But his improvement among Hispanic votes is epic.
Speaker 3: So Trump is going to win Miami Dade County by
Speaker 3: I don't know, eight or nine points. Hillary won it
Speaker 3: by thirty six points in twenty sixteen, Biden won it
Speaker 3: by six or seven, and Trump's gonna lant it by
Speaker 3: eight or nine the right word shift in Florida, including
Speaker 3: the heavily Hispanic counties, every one of those counties is
Speaker 3: moving towards Trump, and Trump's gonna win Florida by maybe
Speaker 3: He already has by about the same margins as Dessantas
Speaker 3: two years ago, and that's holding up in other states.
Speaker 3: So that is epic. I think what else should be
Speaker 3: said about all that?
Speaker 6: I know he's at fifty fifty six in Florida. He's
Speaker 6: it's been called for Donald.
Speaker 3: Trump, yeah right, yes, yeah, yeah, But it was by
Speaker 3: how much? And where? Is important? And I think Trump
Speaker 3: is doing well with the Hispanic vote in other states
Speaker 3: even I think it's there's a county in Florida that's
Speaker 3: largely Puerto Rican that he's gonna win that no Republican
Speaker 3: has won in a long time. Even after all the
Speaker 3: fuss about the someone pointed out to me, you know
Speaker 3: a lot of the Puerto Ricans would come to America.
Speaker 3: Why did they come to America? Because, let's face it,
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico is not a pleasant place. So you know,
Speaker 3: as as as bad as it was for that comic
Speaker 3: to make that comment, which by the way, has probably
Speaker 3: doubled the rate he can charge now for comedy appearances. Hello,
Speaker 3: it was not that offensive to guess who Puerto Ricans
Speaker 3: it was offensive. Let media, what.
Speaker 6: Fact check for a moment. What's really true is that
Speaker 6: Puerto Rico does have a garbage problem. It's not that that,
Speaker 6: you know, the Puerto Rican people are garbage. Puerto Rico
Speaker 6: has a garbage problem. And by the way, before I
Speaker 6: forget the the legislature in Guam flipped from Democrat to Republican,
Speaker 6: which means Henk Johnson finally got his wish. The whole
Speaker 6: thing flipped over. Sorry, can't help it.
Speaker 4: Eric Erickson has just sent out an email advising us
Speaker 4: to turn to MSNBC.
Speaker 3: Really, Oh, you know, I have to say, I always
Speaker 3: love watching ms NBC when Democrats are having a bad night.
Speaker 3: It's just it's so it makes me so happy. Well, now,
Speaker 3: John Hugh is supposed to join us any minute now,
Speaker 3: but I'm just going to errupt now and say, tonight
Speaker 3: I began my night by drinking negronies. Why because King
Speaker 3: jleie Amos in his book every day drinking.
Speaker 6: So pretentious is great? Right and ye, but gronies are nasty.
Speaker 3: Or not, he says, he tells me how to make
Speaker 3: it a groani, and he says, this is a really
Speaker 3: fine invention. It has the power rare with drinks and
Speaker 3: indeed anything else of cheering you up. I don't need
Speaker 3: much cheering up with the elect results, but I say,
Speaker 3: take no chances. Right. Yeah, you have some people agreeing
Speaker 3: with you in the chat thread, Lucretia that negronis are terrible.
Speaker 6: I think that's actually why don't you read the whole
Speaker 6: chat thread and you'll find nobody disagrees with me about
Speaker 6: anything in the chat thread. So there I'm feeling or now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 6: I can't help it. It's just the way it goes.
Speaker 5: When you talk about.
Speaker 4: The period between now and January twentieth.
Speaker 5: Ah, do you think that Biden will pardon Hunter?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do, unless Trump promises to do Trump says
Speaker 3: he's going to do it in himself, which would be
Speaker 3: an interesting thing. I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: I can't see Biden Abiden. Can you imagine him.
Speaker 4: Putting himself in a situation where he'd have to be
Speaker 4: grateful to Hitler?
Speaker 3: Well, no, no, seriously here, I mean, I've I think
Speaker 3: we've talked about this on the podcast before. I think
Speaker 3: the left is going to freak out about this. And
Speaker 3: we still have Merchan's going to sentence Trump on what
Speaker 3: November twenty eight or so. And I have been wondering
Speaker 3: if Murhan is going to sentence Trump to jail and
Speaker 3: actually try to order him to Rikers Island that day,
Speaker 3: and that will be interesting day. I am convinced, I mean,
Speaker 3: Lucretia said this a year ago. I am convinced the
Speaker 3: Democrats are gonna move having an earth to prevent Trump
Speaker 3: from taking office. I should quit laughing here, and you know,
Speaker 3: drinking and joking about things, because you know they're not
Speaker 3: going to abide by the results of the selection. Uh
Speaker 3: and and so there's one step that might happen. And
Speaker 3: and here comes John.
Speaker 2: You Hey, John, I've been saving this Hawaiian shirt for
Speaker 2: this night. It's an official Phillies Hawaiian shirt. Look at
Speaker 2: Scott's Citizens Bank Park and the Skyline. Because if Trump wins,
Speaker 2: it's going to because of Pennsylvania, my home state.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be about a lot of places, John, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's not going to be a landslide, but he's solidly
Speaker 3: ahead in a lot of places.
Speaker 7: I'll put it that wayside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're home. Well, it's going to seem like
Speaker 3: a landslide. By the way, if he wins the popular
Speaker 3: vote out goes the leftist talking point about the electoral college, right,
Speaker 3: and that will be a fun day. So so you're home, John, Right?
Speaker 3: And okay, you don't.
Speaker 2: Just call California for Harris.
Speaker 6: Yeah, zero percent of the precincts reporting.
Speaker 3: It didn't matter. But yeah, right, do you know anything else?
Speaker 3: I mean, what.
Speaker 6: About what about Garvey? What about Steve Garvey?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, he was so far down it was gonna pick
Speaker 3: a miracle for him to.
Speaker 6: Be wrong with you Californians.
Speaker 2: And they should have they should have run Otani. He
Speaker 2: had a better chance than Garvey. No one to remembers
Speaker 2: Garvey played for the Dodgers. Who's a live in California?
Speaker 3: Now? It was the eighties.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so I want to go do what Now
Speaker 6: that John's here, I want to go back and discuss
Speaker 6: this whole question about whether or not the powers that
Speaker 6: be will let Trump take office. And so here's the
Speaker 6: real question. Those people who are worried say about Trump
Speaker 6: going after them, prosecuting them. Who knows the ones that
Speaker 6: can't get on a plane and go elsewhere. Shouldn't they
Speaker 6: also be worried about jd Vance? I mean, come on,
Speaker 6: jd Vance. Jd Vance is better than Trump. I'm sorry
Speaker 6: to say that, but I really believe that. Of course,
Speaker 6: I was the one who said he should pick him
Speaker 6: how long ago and predicted that he would, But I've
Speaker 6: been singularly impressed with him at every opportunity, and I
Speaker 6: think he's insurance against anything they might try to do,
Speaker 6: because imagine if they actually tried to take Trump out
Speaker 6: one way or another, not necessarily by merchant, but something
Speaker 6: more violent. I mean jd Vance becomes the hero of heroes,
Speaker 6: and I mean that would be domb dumb for them
Speaker 6: to do, I think, But I don't know that they
Speaker 6: see that they have any choice.
Speaker 7: I mean, they tried every other desperate measure. I think
Speaker 7: so too.
Speaker 6: Douglas Wise, I think that was the part of the
Speaker 6: reason he was chosen. You have to admit though, he's
Speaker 6: good in his own right and he's going to be
Speaker 6: a good standard bearer for whatever it is. The new
Speaker 6: Republican Party is gonna look like I'm thrilled. Yeah, the
Speaker 6: future exactly there there, I'm serious, sober and optimistic.
Speaker 7: Steve.
Speaker 3: Wow as it turned about speaking of yeah.
Speaker 6: It's because because of somebody, Pizza Bob made fun of
Speaker 6: me for drinking my wine instead of my Scotch.
Speaker 3: So, John, you have have you uncorked something? I'm doing
Speaker 3: my Lefroyd quarter cast for tonight. Oh no, I haven't yet.
Speaker 2: I want I'm saving it until they call it because
Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna get called today.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I think I'm gonna have my will at Bourbon,
Speaker 2: you know, in the super sized bottle, which I'm happy
Speaker 2: to bring out.
Speaker 6: But people haven't seen it, right, so no, just us
Speaker 6: they hear it though it pours.
Speaker 7: It makes the best sound when it's pouring.
Speaker 3: But there. We go.
Speaker 6: To the podcast the other day and I rewound it
Speaker 6: so I just so I could hear the pouring sound again, John,
Speaker 6: great sound.
Speaker 2: I know, it does make a great sound. It's got
Speaker 2: to be something about the bottle and the way right now.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, you know, I listened to Fox sometimes
Speaker 2: on the radio, and I haven't heard any ad for
Speaker 2: Trump Bourbon yet. I mean, I heard Trump watches Trump
Speaker 2: child children's.
Speaker 6: Books, t Tyler, although he does have one.
Speaker 2: There was Trump vodka, and it was Trump vodka once apart,
Speaker 2: but no Trump Bourbon yet.
Speaker 3: Trump Steaks, Trump Steaks. The New York Times needle has
Speaker 3: now eighty eight percent im sorry, eighty eight percent of
Speaker 3: Trump no way three hundred and one electoral votes as their.
Speaker 6: Part Pennsylvania for the Right to sixty seven percent Republican.
Speaker 2: Well, can I can I talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: my home state?
Speaker 3: Is what do?
Speaker 2: I heard? And I couldn't believe it, but I heard
Speaker 2: on TV that Trump had won twenty one percent of Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: where ninety percent of the voters are registered Democrats, and
Speaker 2: the city has I think is clearly majority, might be
Speaker 2: being close to a super majority of African Americans. If
Speaker 2: Trump actually won and I think he won maybe twelve
Speaker 2: percent of Philadelphia last time, which itself was incredible, but
Speaker 2: if he actually won twenty one percent of pensylv of Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: He's going to win the state. And that's just I mean,
Speaker 2: incredible political malpractice on the Harris campaign's part. I mean,
Speaker 2: how could they not get ninety percent of Philadelphia? I
Speaker 2: find that incredible. And then the other thing is, I
Speaker 2: think from what I saw, the other reason if he
Speaker 2: does win Pennsylvania, it's because he's actually doing Trump's doing
Speaker 2: way better than last time amongst voters under thirty in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: even though there are a lot of college kids who
Speaker 2: don't live in Pennsylvania coming in and voting there. It
Speaker 2: sounds like Trump cut the margin from Biden to Harris
Speaker 2: amongst voters under thirty by half. Yeah, that's I find
Speaker 2: that also incredible.
Speaker 3: Well, he he cut into Biden's margins on every group everywhere,
Speaker 3: and in the Yeah, it's this. I've got to think
Speaker 3: this causes a crisis for Democrats. It ought to, in
Speaker 3: the same way to losing the Republicans in the landslides
Speaker 3: three times in the eighties, did and shook them up
Speaker 3: and made them finally not only moderate, but pick a
Speaker 3: good candidate like Bill Clinton, who was a good candidate
Speaker 3: in the ordinary since forget it, what everything about Clinton
Speaker 3: and I don't know that'll happen now. They're gonna blame
Speaker 3: Harris for being weak and starting too late. They're gonna
Speaker 3: blame Biden. They're not gonna We were saying this before
Speaker 3: you came on, John, that you know, the the exit
Speaker 3: polls are all about the economy and threats to democracy
Speaker 3: and immigration, and that's all fine, except for the democracy nonsense.
Speaker 3: But no one's asking about the what we've been talking
Speaker 3: about for weeks, which is the whole trans social issue,
Speaker 3: progressive wokeism, which I think is I still say that
Speaker 3: has been a big issue in this campaign.
Speaker 2: I agree if that if the if Hispanic voters as
Speaker 2: she looks like, went heavily for Trump, I think it's
Speaker 2: because of that issue, and that black men went for Trump,
Speaker 2: it's because of the cultural issues, because I think, and
Speaker 2: I think that's why the Trump ads when I got
Speaker 2: to see them when I was traveling not back home
Speaker 2: in California, but when I was traveling in Pennsylvania in September,
Speaker 2: all the ads had mentioned the trans issue at the
Speaker 2: very end. They all like, I was wondering, why aren't
Speaker 2: they all about the economy, But they weren't. They were
Speaker 2: about the cultural issues.
Speaker 3: In Pennsylvania, so, by the way, I see in our
Speaker 3: comment thread, the anonymous Mike says the New York Times
Speaker 3: is taking a flamethrower to Biden and his staff. Now,
Speaker 3: Anonymous Mike, I'm not I'm not sure. I hadn't ever
Speaker 3: tried this before. But would you like to come on
Speaker 3: and say something? If I can turn on your mic?
Speaker 2: Does a flamethrower set Biden's embalming fluid on fire previous
Speaker 2: to high temperature?
Speaker 3: Man? If you want to try them on, yeah, do
Speaker 3: the raise your hand thing at the bottom, and I'll
Speaker 3: see if I know how to turn on your mic
Speaker 3: and and camera. You know, I haven't done this before,
Speaker 3: so I'm improvising here, but it would be fun a
Speaker 3: bunch of people.
Speaker 6: Should you know, have a trial run on these things.
Speaker 7: Guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait a second, I'm trying to find uh, Okay,
Speaker 3: there we go. Allowed to talk. Okay, Mike, I think
Speaker 3: you're on. You have to turn on your microphone. Wow?
Speaker 2: So can I just say one thing? Fox just called
Speaker 2: Marino is winning?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard that right, Wow, just now, and Mike,
Speaker 3: believe it up to you. If you want to turn
Speaker 3: on your camera, that would be great, But you don't have.
Speaker 8: To oh, let me see. How do I turn on
Speaker 8: my camera here?
Speaker 3: You got to go down to the ribbon at the
Speaker 3: bottom where it says video, and there's you look.
Speaker 2: Just like Scott Johnson got the well because he hit
Speaker 2: the button and Scott appeared.
Speaker 3: Maybe that doesn't work. I've never done this before, so
Speaker 3: I don't know. But go ahead and talk Mike. Okay,
Speaker 3: well you're no longer anonymous Mike, by the way, But okay,
Speaker 3: well you can't see you can't see my picture, so
Speaker 3: there you go.
Speaker 8: I'm actually over in DC area today, not quite a
Speaker 8: year old stomping grounds in Virginia, but I'm actually in
Speaker 8: the people's Republic of Montgomery County. And let's put it
Speaker 8: this way, it's a freak out. We have a party
Speaker 8: over in the back room, and people are not pleased
Speaker 8: with what's going on. So my concerns right now are
Speaker 8: just kind of what you folks have been talking about.
Speaker 8: What happens after do you watch? And my feeling is,
Speaker 8: first of all, I'm very pleased with what's going on,
Speaker 8: but my feeling is just what you folks are saying.
Speaker 8: I can't see the Democrats not doing Desperation Act event
Speaker 8: Donald Trump from getting to office.
Speaker 2: I came in, Wait, what are you guys talking about?
Speaker 2: You mean, like, like, what do you mean if he
Speaker 2: wins the electoral college?
Speaker 3: What would they do?
Speaker 8: John? Let me explain. I have my old mentor from
Speaker 8: grad school said, who's that?
Speaker 3: Gunnery?
Speaker 8: Sergeant say the same thing. You know, that's for people
Speaker 8: do desperate things. That's for people with power to catastrophic
Speaker 8: Democrats have been Let's.
Speaker 2: Say Trump tried it four years ago and it failed.
Speaker 2: What are they going to do that? What are they
Speaker 2: going to try that Trump didn't try and failed four
Speaker 2: years ago? I would Trump didn't try.
Speaker 6: I don't know where you get that from.
Speaker 2: He tried to get Mike Pence to reject elector Fox.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not making that up with.
Speaker 2: But he tried to stop being removed from power. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's not I'm not making that up. I mean we
Speaker 2: can all agree on that as a fact.
Speaker 8: Right John actually left office? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he his whoever's in office. Their term ends
Speaker 2: on January twentieth. Yeah, un us, they happened to win
Speaker 2: another term. Then the new president comes in.
Speaker 3: John be quiet and let Mike talk.
Speaker 2: But he I thought he was defending lucretia so I
Speaker 2: couldn't let that happen.
Speaker 3: I always defend Lucrecia.
Speaker 8: And by the way, I have to admit, since John
Speaker 8: keeps talking about his home state of Pennsylvania, I actually
Speaker 8: spent some time this begotten youth growing up next to
Speaker 8: Pennsylvania and on the East coast as well. So actually, yeah,
Speaker 8: but that means New Jersey. You wouldn't admit it was
Speaker 8: New Jersey because if you said New Jersey, your groom
Speaker 8: A rating just went down like twenty points. Oh hey,
Speaker 8: I've lived in a place where the first day of
Speaker 8: hunting season was an excuse out since from school, and
Speaker 8: I've lived right across the river from the ultimate swing
Speaker 8: of Northampton. So all right, So back back to the issues.
Speaker 3: Before.
Speaker 8: You know, John, you're talking like this is a normal election,
Speaker 8: and you're talking about your You're you're based on intent
Speaker 8: as opposed to capability, And right now, the Democrats have
Speaker 8: basically explained in terms of intent that Trump is not
Speaker 8: a legitimate Okay, so sure, it's a fifty to fifty shot.
Speaker 8: What do you want to say. I mean, you can
Speaker 8: say that you know that whether the Democrats can be
Speaker 8: able to do okay, especially if Trump wins the popular vote.
Speaker 8: On the other hand, the Democrats have staked out the
Speaker 8: position of it. You know, this is this is armageddon
Speaker 8: that Trump gets in, and there are plenty of tactics.
Speaker 8: You know, they can throw the table again, they can
Speaker 8: basically launch the equivalent of the Color Revolution. I'm already
Speaker 8: seeing on New York Times front page that they are
Speaker 8: having demonstrations in the street, though they only look like
Speaker 8: they're pro harmas at this point. I you know, I'm
Speaker 8: with you, John, and I'm very I'm hopeful with a
Speaker 8: decisive victory today that Trump puts makes the Democrats accept reality.
Speaker 8: But there's nothing that they've done over the last eight
Speaker 8: years that isn't norm busting. And you know they're right,
Speaker 8: So I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: I look all this.
Speaker 2: Everything you say is true. Everything you say was true
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. Also, they equally demonized him. They I
Speaker 2: would say, they even had more levers of power in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen than they did they do now. I think
Speaker 2: that you know, they had Obama was still in office,
Speaker 2: they had secret his chosen successor, Hillary Clinton running, and
Speaker 2: I think if Trump wins, he'll win by a bigger
Speaker 2: margin now than he did back then. And they let
Speaker 2: him become president in twenty sixteen. That's why I don't like.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to actually do something illegitimate
Speaker 2: or illegal to stop him from taking office.
Speaker 8: I agree with you in terms of twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 8: they had all the levers of power. The difference between
Speaker 8: now in twenty sixteen. Twenty sixteen was a huge shock
Speaker 8: in surprise. Nobody expected Donald Trump okay, to win office
Speaker 8: up until you know, you saw those last minute polls,
Speaker 8: in that last minute break with the complete shock to
Speaker 8: the Democrats that Hillary Clinton lost. Okay, that's you know,
Speaker 8: sort of the shock and all. They had to take
Speaker 8: a step back and they had to realize what was
Speaker 8: It took him a long time to go on. This
Speaker 8: was the ultimate perception problem. They had lost contact with
Speaker 8: an external reality. They have had now what a year
Speaker 8: or to the plan for this. There are other options
Speaker 8: and so forth. You know, one of the things we've.
Speaker 2: Wait, what are the what are these other options you're
Speaker 2: talking about? Let's be concrete, you and Lucretia, what would
Speaker 2: the Democrats do to stop Donald Trump from taking office
Speaker 2: if he wins the electoral college?
Speaker 6: As Jamie Raskin, he's the one who says it won't happen.
Speaker 9: It not.
Speaker 2: But I'm asking I'm asking you.
Speaker 7: What he will do.
Speaker 2: Then you're just making up stuff.
Speaker 3: You're just making up stuff. Let's be concrete about it.
Speaker 3: That's well, that was my point about.
Speaker 2: Do you think they would actually send the FBI to
Speaker 2: arrest the winner of the presidential election and throw them
Speaker 2: champ corrupt?
Speaker 6: FBI wouldn't do it.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that would. Let's let anonymous Mike,
Speaker 3: who's not so anonymous now give his theory of that.
Speaker 2: Let's call him New Jersey Mike. I mean, he's got
Speaker 2: a subway, he's got a series of sandwich shops, Jersey Mike.
Speaker 8: Come on, oh boy, we really have a Jersey Pennsylvania SmackDown.
Speaker 8: I can see this one coming. So, I mean, there
Speaker 8: are various ways that can happen. They're various. Okay. The
Speaker 8: first one is right, merchant is going to go through.
Speaker 8: He has a decision to make how he wants to
Speaker 8: conduct sentences. Number one. Number two is you've already tried twice.
Speaker 8: It's assassinated. I think there's going to be a I
Speaker 8: think there's going to be another assassination attempts coming up.
Speaker 8: But three even besides Jamie Raskin, who's probably about what
Speaker 8: fifteen to twenty miles from now. I'm seeing his I
Speaker 8: can just see his, you know, when his head exploding.
Speaker 8: At this point in time, I don't there are other
Speaker 8: tactics back through history. I'm thinking along the lines of
Speaker 8: the Color Revolution. There is probably twenty to thirty percent
Speaker 8: of the population, about half the Democrats coalition, who will
Speaker 8: not accept Trump as present. So the question is what
Speaker 8: kind of strategies and tactics you want to use. I'm
Speaker 8: talking about extra constitutional type of medicans in Soviet We've
Speaker 8: seen this in other countries, mass protests, refusal of we
Speaker 8: can see refusal of governors. I'm going back to something Steve,
Speaker 8: that you did through four years ago. You had a
Speaker 8: traditional podcast with Niles I'm blanking on his last name.
Speaker 10: Oh, Nils Gilman, right, yeah, right, yeah, right, and that
Speaker 10: great Transition Integrity project where you know there's closedly bipartisan
Speaker 10: with the Mike Steeles and Bill Crystal's of the role
Speaker 10: playing the Republicans, Democrats could just basically say we're not
Speaker 10: going to go ahead.
Speaker 8: We don't feel Trump's legitimate, We're not going along with this.
Speaker 8: And back then during the Transition Integrity Project, we had
Speaker 8: John Podesta playing Joe Biden, who basically refused to concede
Speaker 8: the election, and he actually went through They actually went
Speaker 8: through a January sixth type of scenario where basically they
Speaker 8: went ahead and they've got governors of Democratic states to
Speaker 8: submit other slates of electors. Now will they do that
Speaker 8: this time?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, yeah, I mean I always said
Speaker 3: that was the great and I actually I don't like
Speaker 3: to use the word tragedy lightly because it's overused and
Speaker 3: wrong to use. But think, well, I'll put it this way,
Speaker 3: in the absence of January sixth, Trump wins this election
Speaker 3: in a ten point landslide. I think maybe five. I
Speaker 3: don't know. Yeah, but Mike, I want to, uh, by
Speaker 3: the way, thanks Mike, this has been great. But I
Speaker 3: want to bring in a couple other people, I think
Speaker 3: while we still have a little bit of time, but
Speaker 3: it's been this has been great. We we've actually uh
Speaker 3: bring in some people. Phineas, are you still out there?
Speaker 3: You had your hand up and it disappeared and I
Speaker 3: don't see you now, so maybe you've had to drift
Speaker 3: off to dinner or somewhere.
Speaker 6: Well, while you're looking for Phineas. They want to bring
Speaker 6: up the fact that it's clear that the Republicans are
Speaker 6: going to take this keep take keep the Senate, take
Speaker 6: the Senate. And I don't know about the House yet.
Speaker 7: It can't figure it out.
Speaker 6: But I want to talk about who's going to replace
Speaker 6: that scumbag, Mitch McConnell.
Speaker 7: Scumbag.
Speaker 2: By the way, the Times just called North Carolina for Trump.
Speaker 3: Yeah, three points. Okay, I have pulled, I pulled. I
Speaker 3: have a point to make about the media. But I've
Speaker 3: pulled up Phineas and Phineas. It looks like you've got
Speaker 3: your mic on. Uh so go ahead tell us about
Speaker 3: your who are you? Where are you? Tell us?
Speaker 2: Phineas bluster the last times it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker 6: That guy guy.
Speaker 2: That guy's from New Jersey too.
Speaker 3: I'm sure John behave yourself. Phineas. Are you there? I
Speaker 3: have authorized him? I do it right, I think they did.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: I don't see him. He's not talking, So.
Speaker 6: Chat chat at us, Phineas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's go to Jeff's iPhone. Whoever Jeff is, Jeff,
Speaker 3: are you there?
Speaker 11: I am? How can you here?
Speaker 3: We go? Yeah? We can hear you, Jeff, go Jeff,
Speaker 3: who are you? Where are you from? Tell us about yourself?
Speaker 11: Oh my goodness, this is such a privilege. I am
Speaker 11: from Minister Soda all the tower line. Oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 11: And my question is about legislation. It looks like we
Speaker 11: can keep the House, and I you know, I want
Speaker 11: to see what Mike Johnson until Lucretia's point, the new
Speaker 11: Senator majority leader John one John or the other John,
Speaker 11: what do they need to do? I mean, I've got
Speaker 11: some ideas and it doesn't include lots of big spending
Speaker 11: projects or anything that can be overturned. But they've got
Speaker 11: two years to make some big legislative moves. What should
Speaker 11: they be working on?
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great point. We should take that up.
Speaker 3: Actually the whole future, I mean immigration cut. Yeah, about
Speaker 3: us the nineteenth Amendment, Lucretia.
Speaker 6: Now that Trump is winning women, I guess we can
Speaker 6: keep it for a while.
Speaker 3: No, No, he didn't win women. It's just the Trump
Speaker 3: won men by a much bigger margin. Ah uh well,
Speaker 3: well the numbers are there, but uh uh well. I
Speaker 3: did have an article in the American Mind a few
Speaker 3: days ago that was pretty radical and and you know
Speaker 3: it had. Yeah. Anyway, I'll just say that I'll repost
Speaker 3: it tomorrow maybe, And anyway, stop the squirrel genocide stop exactly,
Speaker 3: New York. No, Jeff, Well, we will take up where
Speaker 3: we're running a little short time tonight, but we'll, uh,
Speaker 3: we'll take that up soon and maybe we'll do another episode,
Speaker 3: another live episode like this was just fun. So George Spencer,
Speaker 3: I don't know you, but I'm just enabled to talk.
Speaker 3: Turn on your microphone and say hello, George, are you there?
Speaker 3: You got he's muted, You got there? You go, George, You're.
Speaker 12: On sing on the Oregon coast, about one hundred feet
Speaker 12: from the ocean.
Speaker 3: Oh the ocean, I am, You're you're your's a little loud.
Speaker 2: But how many Democrats do you see jumping off the
Speaker 2: cliffs into the sea.
Speaker 12: In in in rural Oregon, people don't put up Trump signs.
Speaker 12: They just have American flags.
Speaker 6: Yeah, same difference though.
Speaker 3: Right, Wait, where George, where are on the Oregon coast?
Speaker 3: Are you? Because I know the Oregon coast pretty well.
Speaker 9: I am in deep Ot Bay.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's a great fish restaurant in Portland. I think
Speaker 3: it's Jakes. I used to say, the fish you eat today.
Speaker 4: Slept last night in deep O Bay, ten miles north
Speaker 4: of Newport.
Speaker 3: Right exactly. Yeah, great place. Yeah, what's on your mind, George?
Speaker 9: The Color Revolution in DC?
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 12: Unbelievable that the Democrats could put together three hundred thousand
Speaker 12: Antifa sort of folks, you know, out there standing in
Speaker 12: front of the Capitol.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was there, George, in twenty sixteen, and I just
Speaker 6: heard them talking in the living room about how upset
Speaker 6: they were with me when I was trying to pick
Speaker 6: a fight with all the Antifa protesters and they were
Speaker 6: going to have to come to my aid. It's still
Speaker 6: not going to handle them.
Speaker 7: I don't need your aid. But anyway, there were they were.
Speaker 6: They were still whining about the fact that I want
Speaker 6: I wanted to pick a fight. Yeah, the riots were
Speaker 6: awful after twenty sixteen, and I imagine they're.
Speaker 7: Going to be much much worse this time.
Speaker 6: And then the worst thing about twenty sixteen was the
Speaker 6: next day where we happened to be staying at a
Speaker 6: hotel where all of the excuse the expression, I know
Speaker 6: there's a family show, but all the women with their
Speaker 6: stupid pussy hats, where they're spending staying at the hotel
Speaker 6: so that they could go to the women's march the
Speaker 6: next day. It was the most horrific experience you could imagine,
Speaker 6: except I had a big smile on my face because
Speaker 6: it was after all, chump winning. But anyway, so, yes,
Speaker 6: yes there were riots, but we pretend that there weren't.
Speaker 6: We don't call those insurrections because it's you know, insurrectionally happens.
Speaker 9: When we're mostly peaceful demonstrations.
Speaker 7: Exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 9: There's no in DC. There's no counter to that.
Speaker 12: You have a completely democratic city government and there is
Speaker 12: no state government. The head of the National Guard in
Speaker 12: DC is President Biden.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you raise the broader point I think
Speaker 3: you're raising, George, is we may now see between now
Speaker 3: and inauguration date much worse than anything we saw on
Speaker 3: January sixth, and it will be distributed around the country.
Speaker 3: And then what's they're talking point going to be? Oh, sorry, George,
Speaker 3: I just cut you off because I wanted to invite
Speaker 3: another person. I'm sorry, but we're running out of time.
Speaker 3: And by the way, so I see, by the way,
Speaker 3: on our comment board, al French, you're a frequent commenter
Speaker 3: on power Line threats. Do you want to come on
Speaker 3: and say hello? If not, you don't have to because
Speaker 3: otherwise we'll draw to close. Because I've got a couple
Speaker 3: of final comments to make.
Speaker 2: Can I say something about the Color Revolution while you're
Speaker 2: doing what tech stuff?
Speaker 6: Is?
Speaker 2: Sure, so maybe I'm being naively legalistic. I'm sure Lucretia's
Speaker 2: followers have called me that many times before.
Speaker 3: Look under you.
Speaker 2: So most of the people who work for law enforcement
Speaker 2: in the military, I think are basically conservative Republicans or
Speaker 2: there at least they love the country and they're following
Speaker 2: the rules, not the commanders, the men and women who
Speaker 2: are the basic on the ground industreet people. Legally, whoever's president,
Speaker 2: their term ends on January if they are no longer
Speaker 2: the president. Whoever wins the electoral College. And suppose, yes,
Speaker 2: suppose there's some idea like because of pressure, some Democratic
Speaker 2: governor send alternate slates to Washington and there's a dispute,
Speaker 2: it goes to the House, where Republicans have a majority
Speaker 2: of the delegations. They'd still pick Trump. All those people
Speaker 2: take an oath to obey the Constitution, expecte the laws.
Speaker 2: Trump becomes the president on January twentieth, Are you saying
Speaker 2: that all those people are going to violate their oaths
Speaker 2: and keep Trump out of office by engaging in some
Speaker 2: kind of revolution or I just I don't think that's
Speaker 2: going to happen. Maybe I'm wrong about the hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of military officers and law enforcement officers on how
Speaker 2: they'll view their duty, but I fully expect them actually
Speaker 2: to defend the whoever legitimately wins the presidency and takes
Speaker 2: office on January twentieth. It's never happened before in our history,
Speaker 2: and we've gone.
Speaker 6: Through to every other country in the world.
Speaker 2: That's because we're an exceptional country.
Speaker 3: We wome on a.
Speaker 6: Reason, not for positivist reasons.
Speaker 3: John, hold on, hold on you guys. First of all,
Speaker 3: I I I cut. It wasn't Phineas, who was it?
Speaker 3: I cut? I cut off our commenter, probably sooner than
Speaker 3: I should have.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then wait, somebody, Al French you're on? Have you
Speaker 3: got something going on in the background. I hear some
Speaker 3: extra noise coming from somewhere, just the household noise. Okay, hey, Al,
Speaker 3: how are you? I'm fine, I'm great. How are you good?
Speaker 3: We're getting ready for the riots in Portland? Are you
Speaker 3: you're in Portland. I'm in a suburb okay, and in
Speaker 3: the county to the south, which is what county Yamhill Nolahamus. Okay,
Speaker 3: oh Clacamus. Sure that's right. Yeah, yeah. My late friend
Speaker 3: Kelly Clark represented Placamus County in a state legislature thirty
Speaker 3: years ago. Now, good grief.
Speaker 7: Anyway, that's important.
Speaker 3: We got a question our comment out let me see
Speaker 3: you in our comment thread all the time, so I
Speaker 3: thought we ought to bring you in.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just enjoying the show, thank.
Speaker 3: You, Okay, Okay, well, thanks al, and we're going to
Speaker 3: because there's all background noise. A couple of closing observations.
Speaker 3: One is what I wrote one of them down. I
Speaker 3: wonder if we are now.
Speaker 2: By the way, that's one more everybody than he usually
Speaker 2: writes down.
Speaker 3: Well, I can't.
Speaker 6: Remember what it is even though we wrote it down.
Speaker 3: By the way, John, somebody in the comment thread labeled
Speaker 3: you what they beat me to it, calling you a
Speaker 3: natural law denier. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't deny it. I just think of channels in
Speaker 2: the wrong way.
Speaker 3: Do your guys theory We're gonna lucretion and I are
Speaker 3: going to work on a joint response to.
Speaker 2: Why, well, it's only been twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: For God's sake, only.
Speaker 6: Did I have a job, John and I have to
Speaker 6: do this podcast. Asn't Steve talk the whole night?
Speaker 3: You know, I'll tell you here. So here's one thought
Speaker 3: also about what we're seeing right now, which is is
Speaker 3: this the end of the media monopoly? And so one
Speaker 3: of my propositions is, you know, we had the first
Speaker 3: social media election in two thousand and eight twenty twelve,
Speaker 3: and big data in twenty twelve and twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 3: the mail bows in twenty twenty. I wonder if this
Speaker 3: is the first podcast election, and if Joe Rogan isn't
Speaker 3: the new Walter Cronkite, the person with the largest audience
Speaker 3: and largest trust in the American people. And one things
Speaker 3: I want to do, by the way, Scott Johnson, is
Speaker 3: I want to I meant to do it today and
Speaker 3: I didn't have time, But I want to get old
Speaker 3: Tim Gross close on for a podcast to update his
Speaker 3: famous book on the effect of the media on election outcomes,
Speaker 3: which I think I think his basic things this is
Speaker 3: still right, but I'm wondering if he may discern and
Speaker 3: know any data about whether we can conclude that that
Speaker 3: has now changing in eroding in any case. So, I mean,
Speaker 3: I think maybe the media monopoly was smashed pretty hard
Speaker 3: in this election. That's my proposition.
Speaker 2: One of them here comes to sound after your first one.
Speaker 2: After if that's one of four observation, Steve, I'm hitting
Speaker 2: the sauce now.
Speaker 3: No, No, that's the only one I wrote down. Oh oh,
Speaker 3: I thought you had three more. No, I said two,
Speaker 3: and I don't remember the second one.
Speaker 2: So you know, Lucretia and I have a packed every
Speaker 2: time that you say some foreigner's name, we have to
Speaker 2: take a hitted liquor.
Speaker 6: Which is which is bunk off or you know what?
Speaker 2: And if it's a and if it's a foreigner who's
Speaker 2: a philosopher, it's a double hit.
Speaker 6: Well okay, Early exit okay, Bablonbee. Early exit polls show
Speaker 6: Peanut the squirrel with the commanding lead. By the way,
Speaker 6: I posted on X because I went to my polling place,
Speaker 6: which has never happened. By the way, I've lived here
Speaker 6: for twenty years, voted in exactly the same place every
Speaker 6: single time. Usually run you know it's a small town.
Speaker 6: I run into fifteen or twenty people that I know,
Speaker 6: I go and maybe I have to wait five minutes
Speaker 6: or so. I waited an hour more well over an
Speaker 6: now almost an hour and a half to vote today,
Speaker 6: as did everyone I know that went to that particular precinct.
Speaker 6: And I notice also that that precinct has not yet
Speaker 6: published any results.
Speaker 7: It's only one of about three in Arizona that has
Speaker 7: not done so.
Speaker 6: But when John said, why didn't I vote by absentee
Speaker 6: ballot or mail in ballot, whatever it was, you said, yeah,
Speaker 6: I said that I don't believe in it. I believe
Speaker 6: voting should require some sacrifice on the part of citizens.
Speaker 6: So I stood in line but enjoyed it very much.
Speaker 6: But I'm told a friend of mine was actually standing
Speaker 6: in line, you know, it was doing this with the
Speaker 6: phone because it was a little bit bored. And the
Speaker 6: guy came up and said, you can't have a phone
Speaker 6: in here.
Speaker 7: You have to turn it off.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 6: Anyway, I thought I mentioned that just to find out
Speaker 6: if there's anybody out there really quick who had any
Speaker 6: sort of shenanigans. We're calling them because John doesn't like
Speaker 6: me to say fraud, fraud when I talk about elections.
Speaker 6: He doesn't believe in it. He doesn't believe there can
Speaker 6: be fraud, so I call them Shenanigans. Oh anyway, I.
Speaker 2: Always say fraud that doesn't affect the outcome of the election.
Speaker 3: I don't deny there's not there's fraud.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, because you can prove that, can't you,
Speaker 6: just like I can't prove that fraud did affect the
Speaker 6: outcome of an election.
Speaker 7: That's the problem with fraud.
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris confused by process where she needs to get
Speaker 6: votes to be selected. My personal favorite, because I know
Speaker 6: we're out of time anyway, but this one's so great,
Speaker 6: and I actually I have a follow on. Democrats warn
Speaker 6: that if Trump is elected, it will be the end
Speaker 6: of bureaucracy as we know it. But I saw something
Speaker 6: on Twitter todaylogize, I forget who it was. It said,
Speaker 6: if you use AI for every one of the you know,
Speaker 6: the the regime media's screeds about, you know, the danger
Speaker 6: to democracy from Trump, if you use AI to replace
Speaker 6: democracy with bureaucracy, it all begins to make sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's true.
Speaker 7: It's true. Yeah, yeah, I know that's the problem. The
Speaker 7: Babylon be.
Speaker 6: Needs to not funny funny again.
Speaker 2: It's not funny anymore.
Speaker 3: Oh it's right. Yeah, okay, well now all right now
Speaker 3: before John you launch us out, Scott, we've been bailing
Speaker 3: along like we usually do when we drink too much
Speaker 3: and get bailing along. Have the last common observation. You're smiling.
Speaker 3: You look happy, which is great.
Speaker 2: I thought people didn't do that in Minnesota, smile or
Speaker 2: be happy.
Speaker 3: I'm just going on, Waltz.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, when you're governor, from what I've seen,
Speaker 2: he looks very happy.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, at the return to send your situation. And
Speaker 13: for Kim Walls, I got to think about that. Yeah,
Speaker 13: I'm kind of out of man. Well, Steve that I
Speaker 13: appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, it's doing more often. He's sort of gone
Speaker 3: so things and we'll find more excuses to do them.
Speaker 3: I think the three of us, you know, every week
Speaker 3: we have a hard time picking a time because we're
Speaker 3: always all three of us are you know. I'm not
Speaker 3: so schedules and all the rest of that.
Speaker 2: But John, drink, always drink your whiskey.
Speaker 3: Meat.
Speaker 2: Let's go Brandon, and although we should change that, so
Speaker 2: let's go peanut. Yeah, and Steve, what's our new?
Speaker 3: What's our new?
Speaker 6: Don't forget Fred.
Speaker 7: Everybody was Fred the Raccoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like I don't like raccoon, so that's
Speaker 2: fine with me. They do a raccoon chenocide, but.
Speaker 3: Squirrels, I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna stick with what
Speaker 3: we've been doing the last couple of weeks for one
Speaker 3: more night Night Kamala Harris best quote ever. I can't
Speaker 3: think of a single thing it could be more perfect
Speaker 3: than that. Bye, everybody, and thanks for the audience for
Speaker 3: tuning in and for a couple of commenters, and we'll
Speaker 3: be back again soon with hopefully more of this than
Speaker 3: everything else. Ricochet join the conversation.