WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:05.960 This is India Today Podcasts. 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:10.560 You are on India Today Podcasts and you are in 3 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.439 the Sledging Room. Let me warn you this is not 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:17.559 a place for the faint hearted and the weak need. 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:21.079 If you're a sports poff and like challenging everything you 6 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:24.440 see and hear, stay, if you're a sooner bodyatya fan 7 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:34.560 walk away right now. 8 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:43.359 Welcome back to another episode of Sledging Room. Sorrow. Allan, 9 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:46.759 the dust has settled over the Indian England series. That's 10 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:49.320 why we're here to discuss Cooley. Where is War two? 11 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:55.520 Which of the two August fourteen releases will you know 12 00:00:56.759 --> 00:00:59.799 win the box office? Wark? Okay, what do you think, Allen? 13 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:01.880 I'm going for both movies both. 14 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:05.719 On day one Alan is off and he's using that off. 15 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:10.239 Yeah, watch both movies and I think I'll write who 16 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:12.799 won the war? Probably will see. 17 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:16.599 That day you ask him to talk about barbar Schumann, Gill. 18 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:21.200 Alan might not be this interested, but on day one it's. 19 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:24.359 A no contest. No Barbara Shuman. Will Barber was given 20 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:25.560 the titlepe. 21 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:30.359 Probably probably his War two to me, no contest, but yeah, no, 22 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.239 we are not here to discuss that. Probably an entertainment 23 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.280 podcast will discuss that, but we are here to discuss 24 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:40.879 Barber's you know failures, were walking on a TI trope. Yes, 25 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:45.680 that article on Sunday morning, Sunday Morning read from our 26 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:49.599 very own three talking about what Barber needs to do 27 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:51.799 now that he's not in the T twenty I team 28 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.879 and Test team. Maybe if he have so what can 29 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.359 he do in this three match odio series against wester Indies. 30 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:01.760 Pakistan are currently playing the Western and the day we 31 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:03.359 write that, Bower goes for a three. 32 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:09.199 Ball duck, I wonder if it is our jinx because 33 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:12.199 he's it's been seventy one innings across all three formats, 34 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:15.159 he's not scored one hundred. He was considered to be 35 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:20.719 two great, the number one batter in two D is 36 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:23.319 not even getting a game in that D two day side. 37 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.960 So maybe he's reserving his best for the Asia Cup 38 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:28.639 if he gets a chance in the Hia gets a chance, 39 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:33.120 if goes ahead, Yeah, if a lot of things that 40 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:35.439 we're here to talk about, the Asia Cup, scot selection 41 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:37.919 that is doing a lot of buzz over the last 42 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:41.280 few days, just because there's nothing happening in Indian cricket. 43 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:45.319 Maybe a one month break which is like hashable said 44 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:47.840 very well, deserved for the players and will deserved for 45 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.520 the people who are watching and covering the game as well, 46 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:52.599 because there was too much of cricket in the lead 47 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:54.120 up to this break. 48 00:02:55.199 --> 00:03:00.120 But coming to this buzz, people are quite vocal and 49 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:05.400 people have reported that Schupman Gill, India's newly appointed Test 50 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:08.560 captain who led India to a drawn series in England, 51 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:11.479 will be back in the T twenty I fold. The 52 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:13.599 last time he played T twenty years was in July 53 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:16.159 twenty twenty fourth and he was not part of the 54 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:20.159 T twenty World Cup squad. So as in like, I'm 55 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.719 not surprised looking at the recent developments, but are you guys? 56 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:28.280 No? I mean when Gotham here became the head coach, 57 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:31.680 he appointed Schumann Gil as a vice captain in white 58 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.759 Wall Cricket, odier Is and T twenties, so he was 59 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:37.199 always in the plans of the management for TAT and 60 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:39.639 type format. Yes, over the past one year we have 61 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:41.919 not seen him play T twenty ice. We have seen 62 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.080 the likes of Abishek and Sanja Samsung open then you 63 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:46.719 have feel like coming at number three in Suria. So 64 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:48.199 that is where I think a lot of people are 65 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.319 getting confused. But I believe that he was always in 66 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:53.360 the plans of Juan management and he must have them. 67 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:55.879 They must be having one particular role for this guy, 68 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:59.400 because if he has been appointed the vice captain across 69 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.400 both forts and captain in the Test, from it, it 70 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:04.719 means he's our one of the most important players after 71 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.439 the Koli and But is. 72 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:11.280 It not unfair on someone like Abishaikh and Sanju Sampson, Like, 73 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.400 if you're going to appoint him as the vice captain, 74 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:15.879 you're going to play him in the leven, So you're 75 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.279 going to disturb that opening combination that has been doing 76 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.439 well for us for quite some time. We all thought 77 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.000 that India probably might have moved on from Supermann and 78 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:28.040 Es So what what where does that leaves Waal who 79 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.319 was also done as consistently as Superann Gill over the 80 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:33.680 last few years. So that's my question as like, would 81 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:35.920 you would you break that opening combination? 82 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:39.240 No, honestly saying I would not, But like you said, 83 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:42.160 the suggestions, I think a lot of people have mistaken 84 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.680 this because it was long before that Schumann Gil was 85 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.519 made vice captain. This is not a new development though 86 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:49.399 I think the. 87 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.360 Has he made the white ball vice captain as he suggested, 88 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:56.160 or was it just the white captain. 89 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.600 Both white ball captain. I still remember. I think me 90 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.959 and shuk were discussing it amongst ourselves that you know, 91 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:05.839 why why is he made the vice captain when he's 92 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:08.639 not sure in the T twenty A side. Yes, but 93 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.639 now like then also I said the same thing that 94 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:15.160 whatever happens, he's going to be someone who is going 95 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.160 to be a regular in this team. He's part of 96 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.519 the leadership group as well. So if you ask me, 97 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:25.480 I would not disrupt that opening partnership because it has 98 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:28.959 for Sancho Sampson. Also, he has done very well the 99 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:32.319 amount of chances that he's got. He's played that aggressive 100 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:34.839 style with the Indian Indian team. I wish he has 101 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:37.560 done well. Both of them have got a uh you know, 102 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:41.399 a partnership going. Now, if you're bringing in Schumann, it 103 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.439 would either have to be at number three. Now, if 104 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:46.560 that is going to be your move, then what happens 105 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:51.480 to a Thilla Quarma? You are going to do one 106 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:55.519 the twenty aside as well? Yeah, because then you cannot 107 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:58.720 stop a Tila Kwarama from playing for India because he 108 00:05:58.759 --> 00:05:59.680 has been censoridy. 109 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.279 We spoke about that in the past episodes of The 110 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:04.839 Sledging Room, that if Suria comes in at number four, 111 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:06.639 it's still a waste of his resources. 112 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:07.279 Resources. 113 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:10.040 Now, if you're playing Schumern at three Tillak at four, 114 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.040 then so you hardly Suria will get ten, ten to 115 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:15.040 eight overs in a match. 116 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.560 And the same thing with Tiller. Tilak is also a 117 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.279 very good batter right at the top, honestly saying. The 118 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:23.439 only position that might be a little if he is 119 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.240 at number five. Maybe it was before it was Rinku 120 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:29.519 Singh who did not have a great ideal last season, 121 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.720 So probably he might get the thing. But he is 122 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.120 also we know that he's a finisher. He's a guy 123 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.839 who can single handedly change a match. He has that 124 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.879 tempo to you know, kind of hold the innings as 125 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:42.720 well as go big when it is needed. 126 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.839 Just because he's from Ko saying all this was the 127 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.079 last time he finished a match for you guys, tell me. 128 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:51.160 That so finished you guys. Last season did not work 129 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.279 out for him. But I think in the Indian team, 130 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.680 given his skill set as a as a fielder, as 131 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:00.720 a guy who's uh trusted batter in the middle order. 132 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:03.759 But I am just asking in a cutthroat competition like 133 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.480 T twenty ice Rinku hasn't done well in the last 134 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.879 two IPL seasons, hasn't done well, hasn't done anything of 135 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:12.720 note whenever he has gotten a chance in the International Games. 136 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:14.920 Does he still want a place in the site for 137 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:15.519 the Asia Cup? 138 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.279 I think he will be part of that squad, but 139 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.519 the playing living a lot of things have changed. Now 140 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:24.920 as we were talking about Schumann, so. 141 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.519 Where is cutting back to him and putting the same 142 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.120 question to you? Where do you think you both agree 143 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:33.160 that Schumann deserves a place in the T twenty squad? 144 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.319 If yes, where does he bat? No? 145 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.360 That is I'm not saying that he deserves the place. 146 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:40.040 It is I always maintained that it is a team 147 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:42.560 management that has a plan for him. It's not you, 148 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:46.399 me or Alan deciding that Shuman will play and Sir 149 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:48.839 Samsung will not play. It is a team management which 150 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:49.399 gave him. 151 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:52.560 Tell me where he'll play. 152 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:55.639 That is what I'm saying, Because no, I'm not beating 153 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:57.480 on the bush. I'm telling you the fact. And if 154 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.680 you ask me, my personal opinion is he does not 155 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:00.639 fit in. 156 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:04.920 That he is not years The average is fifteen average 157 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:09.759 fifteen then against one forty in the Sorry strike Crador 158 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:12.439 one for the wildest dreams. 159 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.160 Pictures in the I pill are a lot more different 160 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:21.279 than what pictures will have in a Cup or in 161 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.160 the T twenty World Cup. Also, when you play in India, 162 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:26.199 I don't think they're going to give those these roots 163 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.399 route to bat in the international matches where India players 164 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:32.279 against these teams in the Asia Cup or in the 165 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:33.000 t'ty World Cup. 166 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.840 A guy who has scored seven to fifty runs in 167 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:39.879 the England series and you're saying that he willing. 168 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.120 The formats again, right, why would you. 169 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:42.120 Know this? 170 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:43.919 This is the problem with Weir And this is the 171 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.639 problem with a You know, you are behaving like got 172 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.480 Weir just because someone has scored runs in you're going 173 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:51.600 to be in the place. 174 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:54.639 So you both agree that he has to be in 175 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:56.799 the squad. But he doesn't deserve place in eleven. 176 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:57.360 No, he does not. 177 00:08:57.600 --> 00:08:57.879 He does. 178 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.360 See if I if I look at how the team 179 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:04.039 has performed without big names like like you said, a 180 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.200 big name like Submann, Gil Schumann. Gil is a big name. 181 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:09.120 Right now, let's come to that common ground. Maybe after 182 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:12.519 and Kohli probably probably the most important guy in this 183 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:17.519 Indian team. But does he this brah okay? If the 184 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.600 workload management, I guess. 185 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:21.240 Hearing this. 186 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.919 So even even in their case, like you look at 187 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:26.720 that t twod a team, you don't really need to 188 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:30.919 make any a lot of changes. Yeah, Sancho Sampson has 189 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:33.639 done well given the chances that he was he was 190 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.200 handed over, he did well as an opener. Sharma has 191 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.279 done nothing wrong to be dropped from that team. Now, 192 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.080 where is a superman Gil fit? He sees, Are you 193 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:47.200 going to put him at the opening spot with ABK Sharma? 194 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:49.679 Given that they've got a good camaraderie and they play 195 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:51.799 for the same state. Are you going to do that? 196 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:54.639 And are you going to bring in at five or six? 197 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:59.840 That then you are going to probably kick out from 198 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:03.159 the site. Now that is something that this team management 199 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:07.799 has to decide upon because Schumann Gill opening the batting, 200 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.759 I am not really certain that if you opened with 201 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.080 Schumann Gill, then what happens to a Tila Kwarma Maria 202 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:20.279 Anything beyond four is not good enough for him. Coming 203 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:22.559 in at five is almost like the KKR case, which 204 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:25.000 is why he left KR in the first place. So 205 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:29.120 this is where I think the team has or probably 206 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:33.399 Gumbier has shot himself in the foot because Schumann, yes, 207 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.960 great ipl season, fantastically led the team. But was he 208 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.120 the right Did we jump the gun with selecting him 209 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.200 as a vice captain. That is my only concern. 210 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:43.960 That's also a threat. 211 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.440 No, So my biggest question to the management is right now. 212 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:50.799 So before the ipil if I'm not wrong, we played 213 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:54.480 in England home tree two days okay, abhis must scored 214 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:57.639 one hundred. Samsung looked iffy, but he scored some good runs. 215 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:00.759 He was scoring at a biskraite. I played a Matchmak 216 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.559 batting at number three. Okay, Suria, as we all know, 217 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:05.759 is one of the best stdentary batters. You can't remove him. 218 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.120 So your top four are there? Where do you fit 219 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:11.080 in super Gill if you look at your last centary 220 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.559 series where you actually decimated England, dominated and decimated England, 221 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.240 and now when you're talking about this Asia Cup squad, 222 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:22.159 my biggest concern right now is that if I have 223 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.679 to make a call, apart from boom Rah, I don't 224 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.559 see any other player making the playing eleven of the 225 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.600 same side where he was not part of for the 226 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:32.200 last one year. 227 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:37.919 Because I you know, the basic, uh basic example of 228 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.879 any good team is like if I am playing a 229 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.639 Continental Cup, and if I have to select a squad, 230 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:45.799 and if I select a playing eleven, if I'm making 231 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:47.879 the change to an olidy suttle unit, I need to 232 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.799 make a change where this particular player, whoever he or 233 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:52.399 she is, has to come. 234 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.840 And upgrade that position as a batter, as a bowler. 235 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.600 I don't think Schumann is a uprade on Sancho Samson. 236 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.600 I do not even on a Sman. No, I don't think. 237 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.720 I don't think he's an upgreade on Suria, on Tila Burma, 238 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.639 on Harley. And if you talk about vice captaincy, you 239 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:10.039 know when he was made the vice captain. I remember 240 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.039 me and you we were talking and we have said 241 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:15.679 that you did not make the captain. You gave Suah 242 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:19.360 the captaincy. Fine, you can't take away that vice captains 243 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.720 from Hardig. This is absolutely unfair. What wrong has he done? 244 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.600 You don't get from it. He bowled that mash winning 245 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:28.320 over in that you don't World Cup finals, we were 246 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.879 defeated South Africa. You were on the edge of a 247 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.480 seat and you won that game. So he has given 248 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:36.200 you everything with the bat. He has proved his he 249 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:38.080 comes over on the order to scored some good runs. 250 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.759 He finish the game for you. He has been giving 251 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:43.919 you good four overs up in the first power play. 252 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:45.759 If you want him to bowls there, if you want 253 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:47.600 to bowl in that over, he bowls there. So he's 254 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:53.559 done everything. Why will you steep him? Vice captaincy so there? Yeah? Yeah, 255 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.720 So like you asked, this is not a threat for Suria. 256 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.559 This is a threat for Harley for me, because Suria 257 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:03.159 is I think it's in late thirty thirty one three. 258 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:03.759 Early thirty Yeah. 259 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:07.039 Yeah, he's the thirty four thirty five around that range. 260 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.759 So I don't think Suria will last after T twenty 261 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.440 World Cup because the way this team is behaving that 262 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.639 they want a transition after every year. They don't want 263 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:19.600 old players, they want a young blood management. I don't 264 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.320 think Suria will have that roupe. If you feel superformed, 265 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.320 you know the World Cup, is it a case of 266 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:27.320 just you know, the superstars pushing to be all format players. 267 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:29.480 I think that is is and it's also a big 268 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:32.240 test for Gumby asient was always spoken about, you know, 269 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.879 not mixing formats being clear. 270 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.200 So if he like you said, if he does that, 271 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:38.480 it's like shooting himself. 272 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:41.039 Well, no one, one more thing I wanted to point out, yeah, 273 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.080 that whatever happens in the cricket does have a commercial 274 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:45.600 value to it. 275 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:45.960 Yes. 276 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.960 Fine, So remember the District To podcast which is happening 277 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:52.159 in England Dunest series. Soraisha was talking to Michael Vaughan 278 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:55.279 and Lester Cook and David Lloyd and they asked him 279 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:00.559 what is it that makes India a more loving country 280 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:05.240 for cricket and what are the commercial benefits. Gave an 281 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.960 example that especially since this commercialize has boomed in Indian 282 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.559 nineteen nineties from such rare turo hit, we always had 283 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.720 superstars from DONI who have actually been the face of 284 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.559 inning cricket. Now to be the face of Indian cricket 285 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:21.159 you have to be an all format player. You just 286 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:23.000 don't play T twenty's orde is your tests and be 287 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.840 the face of an all format coach and be the 288 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:29.879 face of it has never happened till now. It might happen, 289 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:33.240 but it has never happened. Fine with Suma. Also, Sastri 290 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.279 said very rightly, this boy has got looks, he's got 291 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:38.639 the talent and he has now been given the captaincy 292 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.320 of Test cricket and now that his team has actually 293 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:45.679 drawn a series against England's bass ballers in their conditions, 294 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.480 he has got a much more say. He's got much 295 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.360 more say in whatever happens in cricket and Gumbi would 296 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:52.879 like to cash in on that. Even the b S 297 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.279 would like to cash on him and make him an 298 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:59.279 all format players, to appease the advertisers to bring more 299 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.279 deals and making the new post integrated. 300 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:06.120 After even so, what do you say? It might seem 301 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:09.200 ridiculous on the outside that we're selling layers based on 302 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:12.639 it looks, but this, like said, like you quoted him, 303 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:13.799 this hold water. 304 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:17.840 There is even there was an interesting factor I was 305 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.200 last day. I was going through one of those YouTube videos. 306 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.600 It was a very simple video. It was about how 307 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:26.240 Schumann Gill got that Ammar of deal. Now, one of 308 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:28.360 the things that pointed out and it struck me, was 309 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:33.200 the fact that Emma as a bat manufacturer, tire manufacturer, 310 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:37.840 tire manufacturer, but as a bat sponsor sponsor, they've always 311 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:41.759 found out superstars when they were young like for such 312 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:44.240 a such An was a big example for it. Then 313 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:47.120 you had Kohalie when he was just about to hit 314 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.240 that stride, when he was about to hit that prime. 315 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.679 They got him now with Shupman. Also just before a 316 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:58.519 monumental England series during the Champions Trophy where he had 317 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:01.559 started off with a certain and bat manufacturer and in 318 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:04.840 between you shifted to a mar that clearly shows that 319 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:07.840 you know, this guy is going to be the next 320 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:10.960 big star. Whether you like it or not, he is 321 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:12.720 going to be put down our throads. 322 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:17.960 So the selection committee makee selectors. Both of you are like, 323 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:19.559 you know brands. 324 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:21.799 You're talking like you don't know how the brand deals 325 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:22.840 working in cricket. 326 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:31.919 Who else used AMRF an Indian crickets use and also 327 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:36.440 used it, used to use it, I used to use it. 328 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.279 But but when you look at that on that side 329 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:44.559 as well, when you look at it, it is uh. 330 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:47.840 When it comes to the Indian players, they have always 331 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:51.320 caught them young because that is how their brand and 332 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:54.600 Indian cricket. It's almost like that brand and the Indian 333 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:58.480 cricket goes simultaneously in terms of stardom. When you talk 334 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:01.679 about start another interest sting fact which I felt is 335 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:05.680 because probably this India's approach of going hell for leather 336 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:08.960 might work on the Indian flat tracks. Maybe it does 337 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:12.000 not work in u A and there you might need 338 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:14.440 a supermann Gill kind of an innings which he used. 339 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:18.640 He was playing in uh in the Champions, in the 340 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:21.359 Champions Trophy, and in the ip A where you know 341 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.640 he was he was scoring at a brisk rate. Let's 342 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.319 not be let's not make a mistake about it. But 343 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.799 the fact was he was concentrating more on rotating strike 344 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.279 and ensuring that he stays there. So probably that is 345 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:36.039 also a thinking behind it. But yeah, for me, if 346 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.839 you're sticking by that approach of going hell for leather 347 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.240 from the get go, he does not fit in this 348 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.279 team and that's a sad reality. But then you completely 349 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.839 have to rejig your entire team. 350 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:49.720 Okay, if you had to drop one of the two, 351 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:58.599 Samson or Abishaik one of the two, don't be like Rushford. No, No, 352 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:01.680 I very frank with if you have to drop, that's 353 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:02.119 the question. 354 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:06.839 So if I have to drop, that's a very tough 355 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:09.200 question to us because these two have given us so 356 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:09.960 much good knocks. 357 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:14.880 Okay, in the top four, if you drop one, I would. 358 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:19.319 Not because of his formerly but because she's the youngest 359 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:20.839 of them and if we get a lot more chances. 360 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:24.000 You ask Alan whether Schumann Gil or as well for 361 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:25.079 the opening slot, he'll be. 362 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.440 I am going to probably get the wrath of my 363 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:35.319 my fellow. I think Samson, just because of the fact 364 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:39.440 that you have a lined up can come lower round 365 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:42.960 the order. Because Ak in the last England series, we 366 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:47.480 saw that Abishak was more consistent than Samson. Samson was struggling, 367 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:53.079 especially against a short board showed no. I mean, he 368 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:55.680 does have his own weaknesses, but he did not show 369 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:58.920 it during that series and he was going very well, 370 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:02.960 especially in that Mumbai match against England. So that is 371 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:05.960 why I feel maybe Samson might not get the NOD 372 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:09.640 and Schumann might come in because. 373 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:10.200 Of his. 374 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:14.440 This is the line that was being you, you know, 375 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:18.000 so you your own people are backstabbing you the time 376 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:18.559 to come. 377 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.720 To to come to I think that is that is 378 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:24.119 probably in his future as well. 379 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:24.559 Let's see. 380 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:28.640 But yeah, I feel Samson might because I don't want 381 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:33.160 to drop has done exceptionally well at number three, was 382 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:38.039 and then like you can't drop. Sorry, he's the captain. 383 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:40.359 The captain, you know. 384 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.680 I just wanted to, you know, discus a couple more points. 385 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:45.880 But we'll talk in detail about Asia. Maybe the squad 386 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:47.720 is coming the third week of August, is what we've 387 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:50.039 been told, but you never know might come only we 388 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:53.519 might have another episode of podcast previewing the squad selection. 389 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:57.400 But you brought up so is it just Sanjo and. 390 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:02.559 In the in the setup, No, I don't think so 391 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.000 that's sort of right, yeah, because because for Kish, I 392 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:11.759 think he's out of the hundred in the he's out 393 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:13.559 of the plants and even in the i p L 394 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:16.319 apart from that one hundred, he did not do a 395 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:20.920 lot of good in knocks where played a very very 396 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:24.880 important role in our title winning. Had he not played 397 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:28.880 that knock in against Algy in that qualifier. 398 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:31.000 To I don't remember that much of i PL now, 399 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:33.640 especially after this test series. 400 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:38.279 But again won the Yeah, I mean, yes, you hate 401 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.359