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Speaker 2: Because it's between the Mountain West and the Pac twelve leftovers,
Speaker 2: it's not really I mean, it's getting attention, but those
Speaker 2: are two leagues that you know are in the position
Speaker 2: they're in because you know they're They're not the SEC
Speaker 2: Big ten, or even the ACC or the Big twelve
Speaker 2: for that matter. But like, the way this is playing
Speaker 2: out is actually one of the more unusual things we've
Speaker 2: seen when it comes to conference realignment stuff. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: made a mistake of trying to eat something very quickly
Speaker 2: there during the break and then not having any water.
Speaker 3: There are some times I'll run and get you water
Speaker 3: here and just to show to do that I'm good.
Speaker 4: Now, okay, there are times where I feel like because
Speaker 4: of there are times in between breaks during this show
Speaker 4: where I'll eat snacks very fast, like you just mentioned,
Speaker 4: I feel like it is the reason for indigestion that.
Speaker 3: I experienced sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because you could be like I could
Speaker 2: finish eating, but like maybe it's digestion. Maybe it's just
Speaker 2: like sometimes like I've finished eating but yet we're back
Speaker 2: from break and I still like, I don't know, like
Speaker 2: it's almost like my mouth hasn't reset to just start
Speaker 2: yap and it's still an eating mode. But I can't
Speaker 2: blame that on that. I just got something stuck in
Speaker 2: my throat there. But again I powered through.
Speaker 3: So weird.
Speaker 2: Good to go back to this whole Pack twelve situation.
Speaker 2: So the PAC two, they're suing the Mountain West over
Speaker 2: poaching penalties. So they fought a lawsuit against the Mountain
Speaker 2: West stating that the poaching penalties of course, which you know,
Speaker 2: there's a reason people sign contracts, right because these these
Speaker 2: organizations try to protect themselves from things like this happening.
Speaker 2: But they filed a lawsuit, yeah, in the US District
Speaker 2: Court of Northern California. It challenges the validity of a
Speaker 2: poaching penalty clause included in the scheduling agreement that was
Speaker 2: between the two conferences. So that was signed in late
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, of course, whenever it was quite clear
Speaker 2: that the PAC twelve was dead and they were trying
Speaker 2: to find a spot. So I mean the PAC twelve
Speaker 2: PAC two Oregons. I mean again, when you say the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve, you're talking about Oregon State and Washington State
Speaker 2: and they're just fighting for survival. But they're also I
Speaker 2: think even going a step further here with this lawsuit
Speaker 2: against the Mountain West than what was done to them,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense, Like they just got left out,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like their conference mates left
Speaker 2: their league and that's why they're in the situation and
Speaker 2: you not being able to survive because they wanted to
Speaker 2: go to a better league, Like they're not a charity,
Speaker 2: like you know, hate to say it, but like again,
Speaker 2: nobody cares because it's Washington State and Oregon State. But
Speaker 2: if you go back ten years ago and you told
Speaker 2: somebody there'd be two schools left out when we got
Speaker 2: to this point, I don't know if you to guess
Speaker 2: them correctly, but let's just say they gave you a
Speaker 2: group of six or seven to choose from. These two
Speaker 2: would have been in that and that's why they're in
Speaker 2: this position. So I don't really fault them for doing
Speaker 2: whatever they got to do to survive here, but you know,
Speaker 2: it's not actually not exactly a great look. But then again,
Speaker 2: at this point, I'm sure they don't care at all.
Speaker 2: So you know, you've got some schools that have decided
Speaker 2: to join the league from the Mountain West. And here's
Speaker 2: what's likely going to happen. Then, I don't know, Like
Speaker 2: the Mountain West and the PAC twelve are clearly not
Speaker 2: going to work together and moving forward, like they're now
Speaker 2: fighting for teams. The Mountain West is fighting to keep
Speaker 2: some teams from leaving and some have decided to stay.
Speaker 2: And then of course the PAC twelve is trying to
Speaker 2: get anybody they can the American Athletic Conference. I think
Speaker 2: they assumed a lot of those schools would go and
Speaker 2: they've said no. So what's likely going to end up
Speaker 2: happening is whichever league ends up have, Like whatever league
Speaker 2: ends up having, here's my guess is that the PAC
Speaker 2: twelve will in fact bring in some other teams, like
Speaker 2: for example, Gonzaga has already agreed to be a member
Speaker 2: of the new PAC twelve and basketball only, and they're also,
Speaker 2: by the way, going to get a full share of
Speaker 2: that revenue because you know, they need a member. Although
Speaker 2: Gonzaga does help you when it comes to basketball, but
Speaker 2: like they don't have a huge fan base, like they
Speaker 2: don't have a huge market, so giving them full share
Speaker 2: when they don't actually give you what you need, what
Speaker 2: you need in order to you know, obtain a to
Speaker 2: obtain a television deal, and to have a little bit more,
Speaker 2: you know, credibility to where the College Football Playoff Committee
Speaker 2: would make you serious, Like you need a football school.
Speaker 3: Knzaga doesn't have football. But Air Force has decided to stay.
Speaker 2: In the Mountain West. They're going to sign the new
Speaker 2: grant of rights deal. And then I'm trying to Utah
Speaker 2: State has to to leave and join the new PAC twelve.
Speaker 2: So not to nerd out on numbers here, but the
Speaker 2: decision from Houston, I'm sorry, the decision from Tulane and
Speaker 2: Memphis to not leave, like it's still getting a lot
Speaker 2: of criticism, especially those in Memphis. Like I think Memphis
Speaker 2: has felt so left out in the American Athletic Conference
Speaker 2: for many years now because you know, they Memphis, they're
Speaker 2: not like they've never been a power program by any means.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't know why they've never been invited
Speaker 2: to the Big twelve and yet you know, some other
Speaker 2: teams have. But I'm sure their fans don't want to
Speaker 2: be in the American anymore because they stay there and
Speaker 2: the other the other teams that were peers with Memphis
Speaker 2: just keep hopping to new leagues. So you know, I
Speaker 2: get it if I was a Memphis fan. Even though
Speaker 2: you know the PAC twelve is not what it once was,
Speaker 2: you probably view it as a more serious league than
Speaker 2: what you're in now in the American which just keeps
Speaker 2: getting gutted. But your university can't afford to go to
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve with such a little payoff in a
Speaker 2: struggled to even pay to travel in all that, Like
Speaker 2: the logistics of it, it just doesn't make any sense
Speaker 2: at all. And there's a two Lane writer who I
Speaker 2: thought had a really good breakdown about about the decision
Speaker 2: from two Lane in Memphis and why it made sense.
Speaker 2: So Houston, Cincinnati, and Central Florida they paid eighteen million
Speaker 2: dollars when they left the American So two and a
Speaker 2: half million of walking around money from the PAC twelve,
Speaker 2: you know, like it just it's not worth it. Like
Speaker 2: it's just it's not that much money in the grand
Speaker 2: scheme of things. What the PAC twelve is trying to
Speaker 2: do to entice these teams to leave just doesn't make
Speaker 2: a whole lot of sense. So here's a rite. Here's
Speaker 2: another part of this article. The big difference is that
Speaker 2: whenever those schools paid that money, right, eighteen million dollars,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if that's cheap for anybody,
Speaker 2: but it's certainly you know, I would say for Houston, Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: I mean again, eighteen million, I'd say the majority of
Speaker 2: big programs would would look at that as a big expense.
Speaker 2: But Houston, Cincinnati, and Central Florida they did that because
Speaker 2: it was a wise and investment. They paid to leave
Speaker 2: that league for what will triple their total revenue in
Speaker 2: just media money. So long term, it's a good investment
Speaker 2: for them to do that and pay eighteen million to leave,
Speaker 2: because they'll make way more money now moving forward into
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. So like, yeah, it's a big it's
Speaker 2: a big cost, but it's worth it. So the four
Speaker 2: AA school the four AAC schools today, if they were
Speaker 2: to leave to go to the PAC twelve, I mean,
Speaker 2: they'd have to pay seven million more than what Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: Central Florida, and Houston paid and they would only get
Speaker 2: maybe five million extra total. And it just doesn't make
Speaker 2: any sense. It would you would be doing it for
Speaker 2: perception of your of your school, and you're not fooling anybody.
Speaker 2: The PAC twelve we know is back twelve, right, I
Speaker 2: mean that's or the PAC twelve as we know it
Speaker 2: is dead, and this is the PAC two just trying
Speaker 2: to like fool us. I guess they And here's what's
Speaker 2: crazy is I wouldn't be shocked if those who are
Speaker 2: making decisions for those two schools and the PAC two
Speaker 2: essentially right now. I'm sure they thought there was no
Speaker 2: chance that schools would in the Mountain West would turn
Speaker 2: them down, and like most not most of them, but
Speaker 2: a lot of them have and now here they are,
Speaker 2: they're gonna have I mean, they're gonna be able to
Speaker 2: claim they have their own league. And yes they did
Speaker 2: ad Gonzaga and basketball, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like you're gonna like you've added some teams to have
Speaker 2: your own league, but you're still essentially just a Mountain
Speaker 2: West team like that.
Speaker 3: That's what this is. Like. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Why those two schools again, it's probably delusion because I
Speaker 2: just can't see a scenario where these two schools Oak
Speaker 2: Oregon State in Washington State could look at the situation,
Speaker 2: look at what they could potentially do in rebuilding the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve and think that they'd be able to be
Speaker 2: in a better situation than just joining the Mountain West.
Speaker 2: And it is sad, Like, you know, you had PAC
Speaker 2: twelve money coming in annually to you, even though you
Speaker 2: weren't a big factor in whatever money the PAC twelve
Speaker 2: was making. It's because you were in a league was
Speaker 2: some much bigger schools and now they're gone, and like,
Speaker 2: you know, I guess you're just trying to find a
Speaker 2: way to get closer to where you once were before
Speaker 2: your league exploded. But that's not realistic. So anyways, that's
Speaker 2: the to see this deadline. I mean, you've got like
Speaker 2: imagine being like a Utah State fan or a an
Speaker 2: Air Force fan, or give me some other Mountain West
Speaker 2: schools in.
Speaker 3: San Diego States.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they already decided to go, but yeah, just imagine
Speaker 2: you're one of those fans of those caliber programs. Yesterday
Speaker 2: was a day where you're on the edge of your
Speaker 2: seat waiting to figure out what your school's gonna do.
Speaker 2: Are they going to stay in the Mountain West and
Speaker 2: resign for those new media rights deals or are they
Speaker 2: going to go join this new league that is trying
Speaker 2: to fool people and thinking it's a legitimate power league.
Speaker 2: So we've been through it enough over the years as
Speaker 2: Louisville fans that you know. I you know, nothing really
Speaker 2: surprises me anymore with conference realignment, But I complain about
Speaker 2: the a SEC quite a bit just because I felt
Speaker 2: I feel like the league has really shot itself in
Speaker 2: the foot in many ways. I mean, I don't nobody
Speaker 2: probably cares about it right now. But the fact that
Speaker 2: the ACC is like offering to restructure so Clemson in
Speaker 2: Florida State drop their lawsuit like is wild to me.
Speaker 2: I know they don't like being sued by their two
Speaker 2: most prominent members, but like they have no leverage. They
Speaker 2: signed the deal, They're not getting out of it. It's
Speaker 2: a bad look for the league, but like you not
Speaker 2: standing your ground and telling Clemson in Florida State to
Speaker 2: kick rocks and you know, deal with it is a
Speaker 2: bad look to your other members in my opinion, But
Speaker 2: just my thoughts. All right, it's coffee and company we
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Speaker 2: All right, so this Notre Dame matchup I talked about
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the show. I just I like
Speaker 2: where we are as a fan base, and everybody's different,
Speaker 2: so shouldn't act like I speak for the whole fan base.
Speaker 2: But we now know as a program with the guy
Speaker 2: that's running the show here, Jeff Brom. And it's not
Speaker 2: to say that Jeff Brom, you know, is perfect and
Speaker 2: he'll never lose a game like he you know, he
Speaker 2: makes mistakes. I mean, heck, I don't know why he
Speaker 2: had Quincy Riley out there on punt return duty. I
Speaker 2: think that was silly and it might have backfired, you know,
Speaker 2: having your guy run play action on the inch yard
Speaker 2: line the other day, Like, I don't think that was
Speaker 2: the right decision. But again, you know, nobody's perfect, but
Speaker 2: just knowing that he puts you in a position in
Speaker 2: games like this to take advantage of it, like he's
Speaker 2: gonna have his guys ready to play. He did it
Speaker 2: a Purdue. He did it last year when Louisville. You know,
Speaker 2: I know they lost to Kentucky and that sucks. And
Speaker 2: I know they lost to Florida State. Florida State was
Speaker 2: better than them, Like, I think that was a big
Speaker 2: factor in it. But last year the Notre Dame game.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to just single it out like
Speaker 2: he's only done it once. He's only done it once
Speaker 2: here at louis But he's also only coached fifteen games here,
Speaker 2: or I guess. I guess now it's closer to eighteen
Speaker 2: games here because of the championship game, the Bowl game
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But nonetheless, Jet browm thrives in these kind
Speaker 2: of games. Now, he usually doesn't do well after these
Speaker 2: kind of games, but he thrives in matchups like this.
Speaker 2: But I do think that his success in these matchups
Speaker 2: has actually come more often whenever he's not ranked and
Speaker 2: his team is like a big underdog. And right now,
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's the homer in me, because I
Speaker 2: got a little homer in me, right, I mean, I
Speaker 2: try to be objective, but like to see Louisville move
Speaker 2: from an opening line of what three and a half
Speaker 2: four and a half to now it's at a touchdown,
Speaker 2: Like I think that's a little bit surprising, But I
Speaker 2: also have to remind myself you don't really go into
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and.
Speaker 3: Win very often.
Speaker 2: I don't know whether Illinois did it, but still it's
Speaker 2: not something that happens that often. And they're a team
Speaker 2: that you know is always going to have really good
Speaker 2: talent and personnel. But it's just nice to know that
Speaker 2: they're gonna be ready. And again, maybe they don't and
Speaker 2: we're surprised, but he's earned the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 2: as the coach that he will have his guys ready
Speaker 2: in this spot. And it's nice to know that even
Speaker 2: if you lose, it won't be because Marcus Freeman's a
Speaker 2: better coach.
Speaker 3: And I don't know why, but I just I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna be there long term at
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. And you may start to actually hear that
Speaker 2: more than you've ever had, more than you ever have
Speaker 2: in his young in his early tenure there, if they
Speaker 2: lose this game, because what that does is that eliminates them,
Speaker 2: Like I think they should already be eliminated from the playoff.
Speaker 2: But if they already have two losses before the end
Speaker 2: of September and one of those is to a bad
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois team, like I mean, they can just not
Speaker 2: even finish the season if they don't want to, because
Speaker 2: what are they gonna what are they playing for? I mean,
Speaker 2: I know they wouldn't happen, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I'm well aware they could lose like I think
Speaker 2: they should. They should be underdogs here. I don't think
Speaker 2: it should be that big of a line, but I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be ready to play and that you know,
Speaker 2: and I know we got the better coach. So this
Speaker 2: is something I wanted to share with you guys that
Speaker 2: I just found to be interesting because, you know, beating
Speaker 2: ranked teams, Like a lot of really good coaches don't
Speaker 2: have good records against ranked teams because you know, you
Speaker 2: don't play ranked teams all that often, and you've got
Speaker 2: to be really, really good to win a much more
Speaker 2: amount of games than you lose when you play ranked teams.
Speaker 2: So in the last five years, here are the top
Speaker 2: ten coaches in games where they are facing ranked opponents,
Speaker 2: and this does not matter if they are ranked at
Speaker 2: the time. There's all kinds of different ways to look
Speaker 2: at this, but this is just head coaches going up
Speaker 2: against ranked teams. In the last five years since twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: Kaylin de boor twelve and two overall eighty five percent
Speaker 2: winning percentage. And I mean that's now again, most of
Speaker 2: that came. I mean, in fact, I think all of
Speaker 2: that came.
Speaker 4: It might be in Fresno State.
Speaker 3: He was there for a couple of years on the Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 2: No, no, you're right. He did knock off San Diego
Speaker 2: State when they were ranked. Good call, because that was
Speaker 2: part of the numbers I was looking at earlier. So
Speaker 2: at Washington he probably played mostly ranked Pack twelve teams, right,
Speaker 2: but he also played ranked teams in the playoff last
Speaker 2: year when he got to the championship game. So you
Speaker 2: know that's impressive. Not as much data there to I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, only fourteen games, but still that's that's you know,
Speaker 2: so far, so good for him. And now he just
Speaker 2: happened to be working with better resources than maybe any
Speaker 2: program in the country. Kirby Smart He's second with a
Speaker 2: seventy seven percentage rate. Twenty eight and eight is his
Speaker 2: record against ranked teams. Ryan Day, Ohio State's head coach.
Speaker 2: He's twenty two and eight seventy three percent. Davo Sweeney,
Speaker 2: despite Dabo and Clemson, you know, taking some steps back
Speaker 2: here recently, he is still sixteen and eight in the
Speaker 2: last five years when he's played ranked teams sixty six percent.
Speaker 2: Mike Gundy. That was the surprise. Mike Gundy's seventeen and
Speaker 2: eleven in the last five years against ranked teams. Dan
Speaker 2: Lanning seven and five. Obviously he's not been a head
Speaker 2: coach that long, but he's got a winning record against
Speaker 2: ranked teams, not much but slightly. Lincoln Riley, now this
Speaker 2: is Lincoln Riley at both Oklahoma and USC. He is
Speaker 2: fourteen and twelve fifty three percent. Josh Hipel He's eleven
Speaker 2: and ten fifty two point three percent. That's not only
Speaker 2: at Tennessee, that's also I believe a year or two
Speaker 2: maybe when he was at Central Florida. So he's got
Speaker 2: a winning record eleven and ten. Brian Kelly some at
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, some at LSU he is fourteen and thirteen
Speaker 2: and by the way, this is factoring in this current
Speaker 2: season as well, because he's already I think zero to
Speaker 2: one against a ranked team, maybe because they lost to
Speaker 2: USC And then Jeff Brom is number ten at nine
Speaker 2: and nine, five hundred record, So nobody else in college
Speaker 2: football that's actively coaching in the last five years has
Speaker 2: a five hundred or better record against ranked teams. So
Speaker 2: if Jeff can get this win on Saturday, that'll put
Speaker 2: him with a winning record ten and nine. And it's
Speaker 2: not that you know, you win awards or get incentivized
Speaker 2: with your contract by that, but like, I think that
Speaker 2: is worth reminding you, guys, this guy. Not that you
Speaker 2: need reminding. If you're a louisvill fan, i'd assume you're
Speaker 2: pretty pleased with Jeff Brom.
Speaker 3: But I am.
Speaker 2: I'm amp for this game just because I feel justified
Speaker 2: in knowing all. I feel justified in believing that they're
Speaker 2: gonna be ready to play. Now, does that mean they're
Speaker 2: gonna win?
Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side. We've got some
Speaker 2: people ask them on the text line about ul I
Speaker 2: guess not selling out. They're allotted tickets for South Bend.
Speaker 2: I did see that Notre Dame announced that they had
Speaker 2: some tickets returned. I mean, I can't say like I'm surprised,
Speaker 2: but we can certainly discuss it if you'd like. Some
Speaker 2: other texts that have come in that I want to
Speaker 2: get to as well, and you know, we'll mix it
Speaker 2: up the rest of the way. I'm getting more information
Speaker 2: about Jerry Duty, and I appreciate those of you that
Speaker 2: are looking out for me. Hopefully you're sharing like legit information.
Speaker 2: I think some of you guys actually know. I'll believe
Speaker 2: anything you say, and you might just want to mess
Speaker 2: with me. Don't do that.
Speaker 3: That wouldn't be nice, all right, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: It is Coffee and Company with myself, Nick Coffee, the
Speaker 2: company man alongside taking you up till six o'clock right
Speaker 2: here on Sports Talk seven ninety So. I guess Notre
Speaker 2: Dame has their own ticket office Twitter account, and yesterday
Speaker 2: they tweeted out that a limited amount of visiting team
Speaker 2: tickets have been returned, uh and they'll be released. They've
Speaker 2: been released for Saturday's game against Louisville. Get them before
Speaker 2: they're gone. That's what that's what the the tweet here says,
Speaker 2: and you know, anytime this stuff like, it's just uh,
Speaker 2: it's just an invitation for Notre Dame fans or of course,
Speaker 2: you know, Kentucky fans. And by the way, the first
Speaker 2: the first two responses I seen to this tweet are
Speaker 2: from Kentucky trolls.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: It's actually a clever uh name for a for a
Speaker 2: twitter Uh for a Kentucky big Blue bozo. It's actually
Speaker 2: pretty clever. Uh. The handle is at Wildcat's tongue, and
Speaker 2: there used to be a tongue, the tongue for the
Speaker 2: old UK mascot. I think like nineties maybe it looked
Speaker 2: exactly like a penis. I mean, so Wildcat's tongue. That's
Speaker 2: what that means. You'd never seen it, John.
Speaker 3: I think now that you mentioned think I have you
Speaker 3: google it?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know when you cat in trouble at work,
Speaker 2: you know, googling something that FW Yeah, exactly, but that's
Speaker 2: what this, that's that's this account, Wildcat's Tongue says. I mean,
Speaker 2: the weather forecast is just dreadful. Don't blame you of
Speaker 2: l fans here, and it's actually good weather. So he's
Speaker 2: you know, making fun of us, and then he also says,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a packed schedule of YMCA League soccer
Speaker 2: games going on Saturday. It's a wonder why they sold
Speaker 2: any tickets at all. And again that's why on Friday,
Speaker 2: I'm not coming at anybody like I don't because I don't.
Speaker 2: You know, when you when you have an account that
Speaker 2: I can't. You can't take anything personal when you are
Speaker 2: running an account that is anonymous. But the tweet that
Speaker 2: came out last week that mentioned all the events going
Speaker 2: on in Louisville, I think they were coming from a
Speaker 2: good place. But like, why are we walking in to
Speaker 2: get I mean again, like we we live this lie
Speaker 2: that you don't get bothered by you know, the other
Speaker 2: fan base, ribbon you and I know some people really
Speaker 2: don't care, but others clearly telling themselves every day when
Speaker 2: they go back and forth with UK fans or vice versa,
Speaker 2: because we do care.
Speaker 3: It's what a rivalry is. But like mentioned, like, just
Speaker 3: think it through.
Speaker 2: Right, putting out a tweet before your first conference home
Speaker 2: game when weather looks good, it's gonna be hot, and
Speaker 2: it was hot, but you know, throwing out the bats
Speaker 2: game night racing its slugger youth football. Like again, no
Speaker 2: lies were told, but like again, have a little self
Speaker 2: awareness of what that is. It's going to make it
Speaker 2: seem as if Louisville football fans would rather go to
Speaker 2: the Bats game, and we know that's not true, but
Speaker 2: like you walked into that one. And then Jeff Brahm
Speaker 2: making a tongue in cheek comment about the refs in
Speaker 2: the UK game last year, like that turned into a story.
Speaker 2: I mean that. I mean again the clip that just
Speaker 2: has audio of him saying it, and it's eleven seconds long.
Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't checked since last week, but it
Speaker 2: had like a quarter of a million views and it's
Speaker 2: not being shared because he said something hilarious or cont reversal,
Speaker 2: but like people are sharing it. You got the blogger
Speaker 2: boys writing stuff. Oh, Jeff Brams says Kentucky beat Louisville
Speaker 2: because of the refs, which again is not at all
Speaker 2: what he said. Like and that was put out by
Speaker 2: Louisville people like just be just you know, be why
Speaker 2: you know, i'd be be be.
Speaker 3: A little be self aware.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just that because again, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's a never ending it's a never ending cycle here
Speaker 2: because if I was to go to whoever it was
Speaker 2: that started putting that stuff out there, and I was like.
Speaker 3: Why would you do that?
Speaker 2: They would say you think I care what Kentucky fans say,
Speaker 2: and I'd have to say, yes, you do, because that's
Speaker 2: how this works. Like you're not losing sleep over it,
Speaker 2: but like you're gonna alway. You just you're gonna always
Speaker 2: go back and forth with them, and you know they
Speaker 2: won't leave this alone. Like any Louisville football attendance thing
Speaker 2: is now going to be brought up. That tweet's are
Speaker 2: going to be brought up, and it's just you know,
Speaker 2: it was avoidable. That's it's not a big deal, but
Speaker 2: it was avoidable. But yeah, the uh, the other tweet,
Speaker 2: the second tweet that responds to in response to the
Speaker 2: Notre Dame announcement that they have tickets left over, says
Speaker 2: U of l is the gift that keeps on giving lmao.
Speaker 2: Notre Dame fans inde fanatic. He says, we're buying them all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a home field advantage. That's kind of
Speaker 2: how it works. I can't tell if we should be
Speaker 2: flattered that Notre Dame is like really doing it big
Speaker 2: because apparently they're gonna wear their green uniforms.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: This tweet from one of the writers for Notre Dame
Speaker 2: says Marcus Freeman says he's gonna meet with Notre Dame's
Speaker 2: team captains this afternoon on whether or not the Irish
Speaker 2: will wear they're green against Louisville.
Speaker 4: Big business decisions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that makes you want to take a
Speaker 3: Louisville money line.
Speaker 2: Right, it's a green out, So why wouldn't they wear it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So, and look, it has
Speaker 2: nothing really to do with Louisville specifically. It's not because
Speaker 2: they are sitting around thinking, if we can beat Louisville, man,
Speaker 2: you know, that would be an all timer for me.
Speaker 2: I'm been a Notre Dame fan my whole life, and man,
Speaker 2: if we can beat Louisville, hope.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's not like that, but it's circumstance. And by the way,
Speaker 2: even if you don't believe Louisville's a top fifteen team,
Speaker 2: perception wise, they are, so it would be looked at
Speaker 2: as a big bounce back win for Notre Dame after
Speaker 2: their embarrassing loss earlier this year, they already have a
Speaker 2: win against a ranked team, so a loss here puts
Speaker 2: them out of the playoff conversation for good. So it's
Speaker 2: not really just because it's Louisville. It's because of their situation.
Speaker 2: But either way, them being really up for this game,
Speaker 2: you know, it adds a little more excitement to it, right.
Speaker 2: And I did a lot of talking to Notre Dame
Speaker 2: fans before the game last year when they came here
Speaker 2: to play. Great atmosphere, I mean, what a night, What
Speaker 2: a night? Couldn't have worked out better? I mean, you
Speaker 2: got Jeff Brohm on the field, fans running out there,
Speaker 2: Katie George interviewing her, Jack Harlowe just you know, jumping
Speaker 2: around in the background as if he's not a famous
Speaker 2: celebrit He's just out there catching vibes with Louisville fans
Speaker 2: because Jeff came home and knocked off Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: In his first big game. Like you make movies about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that'd be a great movie, but
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it worked, It played
Speaker 2: out perfectly, so it was awesome. But Notre Dame fans,
Speaker 2: they were respectfully arrogant.
Speaker 3: Can you be respectfully arrogant. I feel like arrogance is
Speaker 3: like an oxy moron or yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 2: Being arrogant in fact, actually means you are not being respectful,
Speaker 2: I guess. But they had they had a very very
Speaker 2: respectful confidence in that game, and they were favorites because
Speaker 2: at that time they'd only lost to Ohio State, who
Speaker 2: at that time nobody knew Ohio State was going to
Speaker 2: take a big step back last year. And you know,
Speaker 2: Louisville hadn't played anybody really good yet and had some
Speaker 2: close wins against teams that we thought were bad, so
Speaker 2: like they were deserving favorites.
Speaker 3: But they really even they wouldn't.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't they wouldn't go back and forth with me,
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, Like they wouldn't even
Speaker 2: like like we weren't we were beneath them so much
Speaker 2: that they wouldn't like talk trash with you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, like they thought we were. We got
Speaker 2: a cute little program here and they're happy to be here.
Speaker 2: But now I'm not gonna I'm not going to engage
Speaker 2: with you because we're Notre Dame and you're Louisville. And
Speaker 2: they were confident I mean, the vibe check videos was
Speaker 2: it was evident of that. So you know, anyways, they've
Speaker 2: bring all that up to say, like they probably feel
Speaker 2: stunned that they lost to louisvill last year, but then again,
Speaker 2: they've since lost in Northern Illinois, but they're gonna be
Speaker 2: ready to play too. I just I think we got
Speaker 2: a better team. I think we've got a better coach.
Speaker 2: I think Jeff Brohm is once again going to be
Speaker 2: able to and again he's when you're an offensive coach,
Speaker 2: rarely do people give you credit for anything defensively and right,
Speaker 2: Jeff doesn't run the Louisville defense, but he certainly has
Speaker 2: an influence and it he's the head coach. And last
Speaker 2: year when Notre Dame came to Louisville, it was it's
Speaker 2: the guy's name is Sam Hartman?
Speaker 3: Is that right? Is that a real name? Yeah, Sam Hartman?
Speaker 2: I mean, and Jeff, you know, respectfully, I mean, I
Speaker 2: guess I don't know if you ever did talk about
Speaker 2: it publicly, but it was pretty well known that he
Speaker 2: knew that Sam Hartman was not as good as the
Speaker 2: numbers indicated, and that they could do some things to
Speaker 2: really expose him. And they did exactly that, and then
Speaker 2: you know what he did the next week. The next
Speaker 2: time they played a good team. It was Riley Leonard
Speaker 2: when Duke came to town, and he was terrible. Duke
Speaker 2: didn't score touchdown. I mean, their offense was dreadful. So
Speaker 2: a lot of those guys that were bullying Riley Leonard
Speaker 2: last year when he was.
Speaker 3: At Duke, they're here at Louisville still.
Speaker 2: So you know, I have a level of confidence in
Speaker 2: this game that makes me a little uncomfortable, if that
Speaker 2: makes sense, because you know, usually when I get my
Speaker 2: hopes up and feel super confident, it doesn't work out.
Speaker 2: But I'm just being honest with you, and I think
Speaker 2: Louisville fans feel the same way. Although I can definitely
Speaker 2: sense that everybody's worried about the injuries, and you know,
Speaker 2: I get it. Are this text game in earlier it says, Nick,
Speaker 2: you've mentioned for the last few weeks not being able
Speaker 2: to determine if your team's any good or not. Imagine
Speaker 2: being a Kentucky fan. We got our ass kicked by
Speaker 2: South Carolina and then should to beat Georgia. I have
Speaker 2: no clue what to expect against Ole. Miss good point
Speaker 2: it's a good point. You know, you can make the
Speaker 2: case that Kentucky might be like one of the at
Speaker 2: this point. They played four games, right, I think they have,
Speaker 2: and they are two and two with wins against teams
Speaker 2: that they were supposed to beat, a loss against a
Speaker 2: team they were supposed to beat, and they got killed
Speaker 2: in that game, and they messed around and played Georgia
Speaker 2: as close as anybody has in recent years. In fact,
Speaker 2: you know, I mentioned that the situation with Auburn last
Speaker 2: year in Missouri the year before that, where they also
Speaker 2: did what Kentucky did, hosted Georgia in their prime and
Speaker 2: should have beat them, but Kentucky actually played them better
Speaker 2: than those two teams did. So yeah, you're right, you know,
Speaker 2: because Ohio solid team, and you know, it's one of
Speaker 2: those games where you feel justified in how your team played,
Speaker 2: but you also kind of feel like, hey, we should
Speaker 2: have beat them by more considering.
Speaker 3: What we just did against Georgia.
Speaker 2: You didn't get to finish the game against Southern Miss
Speaker 2: and you were doing pretty well in that one. I
Speaker 2: don't remember what the score when that one ended, but
Speaker 2: then Southern Miss actually got demolished by Jacksonville State, who
Speaker 2: got their first win against Southern Miss. So one of
Speaker 2: the wins you have is against one of the worst
Speaker 2: teams in the country. You got killed in home by
Speaker 2: South Carolina, who nobody really thinks is good, and then
Speaker 2: you nearly beat Georgia, and then you played pretty well,
Speaker 2: really took care of business against an inferior Ohio team.
Speaker 2: Like if I would if I had to just bet
Speaker 2: on this game and it's the only game I could
Speaker 2: bet on, I don't know what i'd do. I would
Speaker 2: probably take Old Miss just because I feel like they
Speaker 2: are pretty damn good. But Kentucky's a toss up.
Speaker 3: Man. Those results are that's a mixed bag right there.
Speaker 2: But for what it's worth this, I mean Old Miss,
Speaker 2: they really can't they really can't slip up because they're
Speaker 2: out of conference. Schedule was so weak, and you know
Speaker 2: they're gonna you know, their schedule in conference play. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure it's it's built in that even if they
Speaker 2: are as good as they've ever been, they're probably gonna
Speaker 2: have a loss because you know, they're in Georgia, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they've got let's see here, Kentucky this weekend.
Speaker 2: They will travel to South Carolina next weekend. They will
Speaker 2: play at Ole Miss, They're going to host Oklahoma, They're
Speaker 2: at Arkansas, they host Georgia, they go to Florida, and
Speaker 2: then they play Mississippi State in the Egg Bowl Game.
Speaker 2: So you know, they could slip up and maybe still
Speaker 2: make it. But I don't know when you look at
Speaker 2: the teams they played up to this point, I mean Furman, Middle,
Speaker 2: Tennessee State, Wake Forest, Georgia Southern, and they've killed those teams.
Speaker 2: But I mean, that's kind of what you're supposed to do,
Speaker 2: especially if you are a top ten team like they're
Speaker 2: ranked right now. All right, let's do this. Let's get
Speaker 2: to a quick break. We'll come back on the other side.
Speaker 2: Wrap up the four o'clock hour. Talk a little Louisville
Speaker 2: basketball recruiting. As Pat Kelcey, he's I think before too long,
Speaker 2: you're going to see one of these kids in the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five class, give Louisville a commitment, give them
Speaker 2: their first here in this class. And there's a rook
Speaker 2: that's going to be arriving I believe later today. That is,
Speaker 2: he's got to be one of the highest ranked recruits
Speaker 2: that Louisville's hosted in recent years, regardless of who the
Speaker 2: coach was. So some good stuff we'll get to. And
Speaker 2: something was said on the SVP podcast. It's something that
Speaker 2: Jeff I'm sorry, it's something that Nick Saban said about
Speaker 2: Jeff Brahm behind closed doors that SBP opened up about.
Speaker 2: I want you guys to hear it, so stick with us.
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Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So, not a whole lot of time left here in
Speaker 2: the UH in the four o'clock hour, but a lot
Speaker 2: left in the in the five o'clock hour. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of things I've figured I would have gotten to
Speaker 2: by now, but I haven't yet, So stick stick with
Speaker 2: us again. I want you guys to hear what SVP
Speaker 2: said about or. SVP shared a story of Nick Saban
Speaker 2: discussing Jeff Brom. Obviously, Sabin has moved on from coaching
Speaker 2: and he's now working for ESPN and has been around
Speaker 2: SVP and other ESPN big timers, and Bram came up
Speaker 2: recently and what he shared is just another reminder that
Speaker 2: we got ourselves some pretty good coach So we'll get
Speaker 2: to that. Also, we'll let you hear Jeff Brom as
Speaker 2: he talked earlier this week about this matchup, so we'll
Speaker 2: get into that. Also, I want to revisit the Louisville
Speaker 2: basketball schedule update because we're going to find out later
Speaker 2: the entire schedule.
Speaker 3: I would imagine.
Speaker 2: Louisville will release their entire basketball schedule once the ACC
Speaker 2: unveils everybody's league schedule. They're going to be doing that
Speaker 2: tonight on the ACC network. So if you just look
Speaker 2: at what we know right now, because they announced yesterday
Speaker 2: that Duke is going to be the ACC opener on
Speaker 2: December eighth, and I know Duke's a conference opponent, but
Speaker 2: you throw Duke in there with all the other teams
Speaker 2: you play in November and December that are going to
Speaker 2: be really good teams, or at least expected to be
Speaker 2: really good teams. I mean, I don't even know how
Speaker 2: you'd be able to determine it as far as knowing
Speaker 2: for sure, but I think you could make a good
Speaker 2: case that just on paper, this schedule, as we know
Speaker 2: now right obviously, you end up playing teams that you
Speaker 2: thought were going to be great sometimes and they think.
Speaker 2: But just on paper, this is one of the most
Speaker 2: challenging early schedules I've seen ever for Louisville basketball, and
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that Pat Kelsey, you know, would have
Speaker 2: you know, designed this on his own.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: We're going to learn about Pat is he has his
Speaker 2: first year as our coach, and we'll learn about him
Speaker 2: over the years, hopefully easier for a long time. And
Speaker 2: there's a lot of success. But you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: is he going to be somebody that wants to schedule
Speaker 2: like this whenever he can, or is he going to
Speaker 2: be somebody that will schedule dependent upon what he thinks
Speaker 2: this roster is going to be like. So those are
Speaker 2: things we won't know until you know, we get there.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to real quick, if you'll let me
Speaker 2: veer away from sports. There's a New York Post article
Speaker 2: that I that I found to be interesting informative, but
Speaker 2: it's the top frustrations in Corporate America. It's a survey.
Speaker 2: So the is a new survey where they asked one
Speaker 2: thousand human resource professionals and they revealed the biggest challenges
Speaker 2: facing the workforce today along with you know, pain points
Speaker 2: HR problem solvers are feeling in their departments. I'm reading
Speaker 2: here directly from the article, and it won't surprise you. Twenty
Speaker 2: nine percent of respondents said feeling under paid is the
Speaker 2: most common source of discontent for workers at their company,
Speaker 2: along with being underappreciated, and then poor work life balance
Speaker 2: was right, right, I mean, honestly, it's almost like a
Speaker 2: tie between being underappreciated and poor work life balance, and
Speaker 2: dissatisfaction with benefits was also up there. So it's just
Speaker 2: according to the survey, the most common type of issues
Speaker 2: that get brought up to the h R Department are
Speaker 2: rooted in poor communication at number one forty four percent,
Speaker 2: rule violations forty percent, toxic negativity thirty eight percent, and
Speaker 2: gossip thirty seven percent. So at fifth training and upskilling talent.
Speaker 2: So I just want to I just I find this
Speaker 2: to be legit. Now, I don't you know, we work
Speaker 2: for a corporation and we don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: day to day and you know, communication with anybody that
Speaker 2: works like for corporate I don't. I'm sure you don't either, John,
Speaker 2: But if you do, yeah, so, and that's normal because
Speaker 2: there are a lot of employees across the planet that
Speaker 2: work for the company that we work for. But our issue,
Speaker 2: and you know, I hope I'm not getting in trouble
Speaker 2: for saying this, but poor communication is it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's an issue everywhere, including here. Like not to say
Speaker 2: that like there's one thing in particular, but like I
Speaker 2: just think the way we are now working, where a
Speaker 2: lot of people are working remotely, I just can't. I
Speaker 2: just have a hard time thinking that that if anything
Speaker 2: is not a factor in a negative way, like everybody
Speaker 2: working from home or a lot of people working from home,
Speaker 2: that can't make the communication aspect better. How much it
Speaker 2: hurts it. If it hurts it, I don't know. But
Speaker 2: if it does have any factor, it's got to be negative.
Speaker 2: So and here's here's one of those like I don't
Speaker 2: know why this has always been like a pet pee
Speaker 2: for me When people mention are you a good communicator
Speaker 2: or a bad communicator? I don't even think that's legit.
Speaker 2: Either you communicator, you don't like if I'm communicating with you,
Speaker 2: I guess maybe some truths or maybe part like I
Speaker 2: don't know, like either your communicator you don't And if
Speaker 2: you communicate, that makes you a good communicator in my book.
Speaker 2: But I feel like everybody that I talk to that
Speaker 2: works for a bigger company doesn't have to be like
Speaker 2: a large corporation that's across the planet, but just a
Speaker 2: big company. Like they always mention poor communication, and a
Speaker 2: lot of times the bigger the company the worst to communication,
Speaker 2: because like you're talking to four or five different people
Speaker 2: and nobody really seems to know what's going on because
Speaker 2: you know, you got too many cooks in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: As they say, failure to follow rules? Does that mean
Speaker 2: like you are Again, I don't really, I didn't really
Speaker 2: know what to make of that. Do you think they
Speaker 2: mean John that they're they're upset with their companies failure
Speaker 2: to follow rules? Because if if HR representatives are being
Speaker 2: hurt or being talked to by employees about rule following,
Speaker 2: who are they talking about, Like, are they getting in.
Speaker 3: Trouble for me?
Speaker 4: Maybe they're complaining to HR about rules somebody else who
Speaker 4: gets special treatment because they're allowed to break the rules.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's I mean, Look, here's a reality, it's
Speaker 2: just life. If you bitch and complain a whole lot,
Speaker 2: you'll get your way more than the others that don't. Now,
Speaker 2: eventually you might just wear at your welcome and probably
Speaker 2: you know, be on the bad side of things. But
Speaker 2: like there are so many people in position that just
Speaker 2: take complaining from from from employees that like they're eventually
Speaker 2: just gonna give them what they want, so they shut
Speaker 2: the hell up. And I'm not somebody that would ever.
Speaker 2: I just I don't complain enough about certain things not
Speaker 2: to say it would do anything, but I'd at least
Speaker 2: feel better if I did, because I would get it
Speaker 2: off my chest. But that was one that was kind
Speaker 2: of a head scratcher. The toxic negativity. I don't I
Speaker 2: don't think any big company is unique here because I
Speaker 2: think if you don't have a whole lot in common
Speaker 2: with your employees, like from a social aspect, and like
Speaker 2: your communication is mostly just work, you end up, you know,
Speaker 2: in the break room or on your lunch break or
Speaker 2: I don't know, by the water cooler, complaining about where
Speaker 2: you work together, Like that's what you have in common.
Speaker 3: That's how you socialize. You just bitch about where you work.
Speaker 2: And that's that's been that's been around forever, right, sticking
Speaker 2: it to the man, like everybody who works for the
Speaker 2: company rallying together to stand up for themselves like that,
Speaker 2: Like that's a big fancy way to describe it. Toxic negativity,
Speaker 2: But I just think that's you know, that happens everywhere.
Speaker 2: Cheer about what this guy did. You know, the small
Speaker 2: talk among employees that aren't like close personal friends, they
Speaker 2: just know each other from work. It's usually about how
Speaker 2: they're underappreciated, how it's not fair that this person got
Speaker 2: to do that, and like, I think that's just life.
Speaker 2: But anyways, I thought that was interesting. Quick break, five
Speaker 2: o'clock hours. Next, a lot to get to before we
Speaker 2: get out of here, so stick well, that's right here
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