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And we're having a classic version of the podcast tonight
with Jeff and I here and it's and I'm i'm
I'm I enjoy doing stuff like this. We we usually
have guests here, but it's fun fun when it when
we go back to the classic days when we just
started out this podcast with Jeff and I and so
it's kind of it's kind of fun for us to
do that one every once in a while. So today
we're going to talk about acc football. We're gonna talk
about the conference championship games, some of the ACC awards,
and we're gonna get into the college football playoffs. Perhaps
a lightning round on the on the on the ACC's
uh coaching hot seat, and a little open mic. So
we got got it, got it packed in. But it's
some quick things we can hop in here tonight. So
Jeff with ACC Football Week fourteen. Let's get right into it. Man,
who is your most disappointing team and who is the
most impressive team?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You there, Yeah, I gotta go with SMU here. You
had to unmute myself, you know, in a in a
weekend where you know, several ACC top teams you know,
just couldn't close the deal in a big game, and
you can go up and down the list. You know,
SMU already in the ACC Championship, but trying to enhance
their their position, you know, their playoff positioning. I mean
they went out and just took care of a of
a decent Cal team. And you got to remember this
Cal team, you know, it was up thirty five to
ten on Miami earlier in the year. Uh, they wanted Auburn.
They've been in a lot of close games and SMU
and as they've just been doing here in the second
half of the season, just absolutely took care of business.
And you know this this week and in the ACC,
that's a huge deal also Syracuse. You know, I think
any any ACC observer was not surprised that they were
going to have a lot of success on Miami's defense.
But question was would they be able to do just
enough on defense to pull the upset. And yeah, they
gave up thirty eight points, but they came up with
just enough plays, you know, holding Miami to a field
goal late in that game, and if I remember correctly,
didn't ever return the ball back to the Hurricanes the
rest of the the rest of the game. And you know,
Kyle McCord, fran Brown just a great first season at Syracuse.
And you know, they've effectively they knocked Miami out of
the ACC Championship game and may have effectively knocked them
out of the playoff. So with so much on the
line for the Hurricanes, you know, cam Ward probably lost
a shot at the Heisman Trophy as well. You know,
just a big moment for Syracuse and that football team.
On the disappointing side, you got to look at Miami
even though you know, what was impressive about Syracuse is
what's disappointing about on Miami the all year long, they
just never got those issues on defense corrected. And I
mean the statistics aren't really that bad, but once a
lot of that was based on, you know, playing some
inferior opponents earlier in the year, and once they got
into acc play, those offenses just really picked the Hurricanes apart.
The only two teams that you know, really didn't have
a ton of success offensively against Miami were Florida State
and Wake Forest, and you just wondered, could they do enough.
Could they just get that defense to be average, just
an average defense, and they're making reservations for the playoffs,
and they just couldn't figure it out. And you know,
there's some talent there, and you know, if I'm Mario Christobal,
I'm really looking at my defensive staff and that whole
makeup there, because I mean, you had a Heisman Trophy
caliber quarterback, a fantastic running back and Martinez and Rastrepo
and wide receiver. I mean you were loaded and for
the go to the entire season and just not be
able to press the right buttons to even get that
defense to be.
Speaker 4: To even be like.
Speaker 1: Average, you know, it's going to cost you an ACC championship.
And then, of course the other team I'm looking at
is disappointing. His pit started the year seven to zero,
and they lost their final five games of the season,
and I know they've had some injuries, but I mean
they've really limped home. They just kind of went through
the motions, it looked like against Boston College. Just a
really disappointing finish for a team that, you know, just
five six weeks ago people said could be a dark horse,
you know, playoff team that maybe could get to the
Charlotte in an ACC championship. You know, they were ranked
in the top twenty and just you know, all these
good things happened around Pitt football, and then they just
collapsed down the stretch. So they might not have been
just the most disappointing team on Saturday, but probably the
most disappointing team the entire second half of the season.
Another candidate for disappointment Clemson fourteen to seven lead on
South Carolina. They had so much to play for trying
to get into the playoffs as well, and just collapsed
again in the second half. And they have yet to
beat a quality team the entire season. Kde Klubnik very
disappointing fourth quarter. Could have made a number of game
deciding plays, missing open receivers on third down through the
interception when they were in field goal range to tie
the game. I was listening to Clemson radio on the
way home, and you know a lot of them were
actually saying he played really well. I did not think
he played well. I think he played adequately for three
quarters and then very poorly in the fourth quarter. And
that's a lot of what cost Clemson. Fortunately for them,
and we'll talk about it later. They got a gift
from fran Brown. Dabo Sween needs to be sent in
a fruit basket, to a fruitcake or something to Fran
Brown for knocking Miami out of the playoffs, because it
gives Clemson another life to go to Charlotte and still
find their way into the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Another game.
Speaker 1: I want to mention, you know, Jordan going to eight
overtimes with Georgia.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure if they should be like impressed
or disappointed that they couldn't close the deal after having
a twenty to sixth lead in the fourth quarter, But
I think at the end of the day, they went
toe to toe with one of the best programs in
college football. You know, had them, you know, on the ropes,
and even when they went into overtime, it was not
that Okay, Georgia has the momentum.
Speaker 4: Game over.
Speaker 1: I mean they went back and forth, maybe the game
of the year eight overtimes, one play away from what
would have been an epic win for Georgia Tech. But still,
I think it really shows how far Georgia Tech has
come as a program and what their potential is.
Speaker 4: It might have been the game of the year in
college football.
Speaker 3: It's certainly not disappointing, Jeff, because I had them as
I had them as one of my impressive teams. So
I will say I am impressed that Louisville beat that
streak on on Kentucky.
Speaker 4: That's a big that's a big deal. That's a big deal.
Speaker 3: They smacked them around too, They smacked them around, you know,
I mean that game was never close, and they put
the accelerator on. So that was that was also a
big performance. This week, let's run through the conference championship games, Jeff.
The four is years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the games that are affecting the playoffs are the
ones I'm gonna hit. You got Boise State and un
l V UNLV really quality team that that Syracuse went
down and beat earlier in the year. Kind of kind
of shows what a good team Syracuse is. But it's
hard to see Boise State losing this game. Their Heisman Trophy,
you know, I think is the Heisman Trophy winner, the
running back giant. I think Boise State wins that game
and and may end up with a top four seed.
You got Arizona State in Iowa State. For me, it's
hard to thick against Arizona State right now. I think
that's a team that's on an absolute offensive role. I
would not want to play them in the playoff because
they're so explosive. But I think Arizona State finds their
way into the playoffs. Georgia and Texas's. Georgia is probably
the best big game program. I mean, they're the premier
college football program in the country right now, and they're
the best big game program as well. I mean, they
just show up the bigger the lights are Texas, you know,
I think they have a great defense, but what's the
quarterback status you know, going to be in that game?
With the injuries to yours, maybe a little bit of
an injury issue with Manning too. You don't want to
go up against that Georgia defense and not one hundred
percent the games also win Atlanta. So I see Georgia
taking care of business there. Clemson in SMU, I think
Clemson they've got like nine playoff lives and they've used
eight of them, and they still have a chance to reach,
you know, the kind of the playoff promised land here
against SMU. I'm not taking anyway from SMU. I think
they are a fantastic team. They're going to be well
deserving of a playoff spot. But I think after you know,
all these weeks of Clemson.
Speaker 4: Not playing.
Speaker 1: A quality four quarter game, I think with this newfound life,
they're gonna take advantage of it. And I think it's
going to be a very competitive, very close game. But
I think Clemson's finally they're going to use this opportunity
and seize that chance to get into the playoffs. I
kind of liken it a little bit too. You know
NC State in the ACC Tournament, you know a couple
of games there that you thought they might have been
a little bit fortunate to win. And then they took
advantage of it win the ac C Championship and make
him run in the tournament. I'm not saying Clemson's gonna
make a playoff run, you know, at this moment, but
I think they're gonna take advantage in what should be
a pretty partisan Clemson crowd in that game. Oregon and
Penn State, you're not gonna pick James Franklin in a
big game, never until he can actually prove it.
Speaker 4: You're not.
Speaker 1: You're not picking James Franklin in a big game. So Oregon,
I see Oregon in that way.
Speaker 2: It just seemed weird. It seemed weird for you. It's
I was reading that.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, God, it's weird for me to see
Penn State even in that game, right with Ohio State
and Michigan not in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy to me exactly because the other guy who
can't ever win a big game except beat Penn State
is Ryan Day, who lost for the fourth time in
a row to Michigan. You know, a really pedestrian Michigan team,
and he couldn't beat him. It's so weird of Ohio State.
They They've said what I'm reading is like, if he
doesn't win the national Championship. He's gonna get fired, which
is unreal with the record he has, But you gotta
beat Michigan when you're an Ohio state coach.
Speaker 2: No kidding, no kidding, no kidding.
Speaker 3: All right, man, let's get to the ACC Awards. Here
the ACC Awards. Jeff was your ACC Coach of the Year.
You're overall ACC Player of the Year, and then your
ACC Offensive and Defensive Players of the Year.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this this is Rhett Lashley's SMU Coach ACC
Coach of the Year. It's you know, other guys like
Manny Diaz and Fran Brown have done an excellent job,
but this is a landslide victory for Rhet Lashly, you know,
the overall player of the Year. I kind of went
back and forth fourth on this and and it's kind
of hard for me to, you know, look past what
Miami would have been even with the finish without cam Ward.
This is probably a six and six, maybe seven and
five team. And he was able to carry that team
to the verge of the playoffs. And and he's my
overall player of the Year, and you know, therefore he's
my Offensive Player of the Year. But I also want
to you know, point out Kyle McCord at at Syrah
Curcs who at times was unstoppable quarterback for them. O
Marion Hampton, the running back at North Carolina was was,
you know, the premiere back in the conference. Then you
go to the other side of the ball, and you know,
in a year where they may not have been like
a ton of truly stand out defensive players, Donovan as
a Reiku of Boston College, you know, the conference's sack leader.
You know, it was just a force, especially towards the
end of the year for Boston College and their strong
play at the end of the year. He's my defensive
Player of the Year. And also throw out a couple
votes to Antoine Powell Island of Virginia Tech who had
a really strong season and the conferences leading tackler Nick
Anderson of Wake Forest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is probably the best. I mean,
I've got to think that. I gotta think that Antoine
Powell Ryland is going to be on first team All
acc for Virginia Tech. Don't you don't you think Jeff,
I mean, for a while he was rivaling people. I
mean for a while up until last week, he was
the nation's leading sack right, I mean, he had the
most sacks in the country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think he'll find he'll win, He'll
be on the All a C C team. I mean,
I have him right up there, neck and neck with
with with is a raiku.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just been he's just been terrific this year.
Speaker 3: I mean, and he'll you know, you're gonna see, it's
gonna be kind of fun for a lot of us
to watch the Senior Bowl this year because I think
you're gonna see you're gonna see some of the hokey
seniors in there. I mean you're probably gonna see quite
a few one there, you know. And and and I
think a lot of those I think that's gonna do
wonders for their drafts hockey, because you're going to see
some there's some real talent on this team. And again, Jeff,
you know it'll happen. I chuckle a little bit here
because people will say, wait a second, you have six
people that are getting drafted and you're on a six
and six football team. I mean, I I swear to
guy that's gonna happen, Jeff. So so anyway, let's let's
go on here. I'm just gonna be I'm gonna go
on a lightning Give me just a second, yea, if
I want to go on a lightning round here, and
I want to tell you, give you my opinion, because
I'm going to answer this here on who I think
that who I think today? If I'm going through the
hot seat right I'm going through the ACC coaches hot seat,
and I consider this a lightning round here.
Speaker 2: Here are the five that.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at, Jeff Brent Prye, Tony Elliott, Mike Norvell,
Pat Nordoozy, and Justin Cox. Now, some will say that
Patrdoozy isn't necessarily on the hot seat.
Speaker 2: He's not too far from removed from ruinning an ACC title,
you know.
Speaker 3: But he's got a new ad coming in and if
he has a bad season next year, that can give
the new ad an opportunity to give him the hook.
But those are the five that I'm looking at right now.
Some will say that, you know, if you're looking for others.
Some will say that Dave do Dave Dora excuse me,
always finds himself on the proverbial edge of the seed.
Speaker 2: You got, perhaps some Clemson fans that.
Speaker 3: Are getting tired of Dabble, but I think Dabble has
a lot of has earned quite frankly, a lot of
good will at Clemson. So that's kind of where I'm
sitting at right now with the hot seat.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts and my assertions here, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good list. I would add
in the Stanford head coach Troy Taylor after another three
and nine season, I think he's on the on the
hot seat. Willcox has been at Cow for a while
and it's just kind of stuck in neutral. Uh So
I'm you know, I think he's he's definitely out there.
Speaker 4: I think Tony Elliott go ahead.
Speaker 1: Uh. I think Tony Elliott is is going to be back,
but uh if they don't make a bowl next year, Virginia,
it's really hard to see them, you know, keeping him
beyond next season. He's got to get to a bowl game.
They were close this year. I know the finish of
the year was difficult, but I mean, you got to start,
you should start producing. And of course, you know the
nightmare at Florida State. There's already staff changes, major staff
changes going on at Florida State.
Speaker 4: So Novella will be.
Speaker 1: Back, but I mean you go to I mean, you
go to and ten anywhere anywhere in the country, and
you're on the hot seat. I don't care what you
did the year before, and it was an absolute nightmare
of a season for Florida State.
Speaker 3: I should clarify what I said too, because I don't.
I don't think any of these guys I mentioned now
are going to be fired tomorrow, right barring some unethical,
unethical or criminal treat you know, criminal happenings.
Speaker 2: None of these guys that I mentioned are going to
be fired tomorrow.
Speaker 3: But certainly if Pride doesn't have a good season now
next year, right if probably you know, if Tony Elliott
doesn't have a good season next year, these folks are
going to be out.
Speaker 2: These folks are gonna be out.
Speaker 3: I mean, so you know, there's you know you, I mean,
you feel like, you know, you wonder if there's going
to be a time when people are perhaps tired of
Dave Clauston at wait wait for us.
Speaker 2: But I still think he's built up a.
Speaker 3: Lot of good will there, So that would be my
that would be kind of what I'm looking at there
in terms of the hot seat right now. So Jeff,
I know You've been talking about this a lot. You
know a lot more than me about this. The college
football playoffs. Who's in? Who should not be in? Let
me just say, if you have three conference losses, you
sure as hell should not be in.
Speaker 2: And I'm tired of people talking about that. You're the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is uh, this is where the fun, the
fun begins. You know, they're they're teams that are already safe,
and a ton of it is going to depend on
the rankings coming out Tuesday, But if you're a fan
of these schools, you can already start, you know, booking
some vacation time. Oregon you're safe. You're the safest of
them all. But you're good Oregon. As you go down
the list, Texas you're good. Kind of still questioning your
schedule a little bit, but you're fine. Penn State definitely
question in your schedule, but you're good. Georgia, Georgia's got
the high end wins. Notre Dame hadn't lost for a
couple of months. SMU, I don't know where it keeps
coming from in some circles that they're in trouble.
Speaker 4: They're not. They're fine.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna The committee is not going to set
a precedent to knock out an eleven to one conference
championship participant that went eight to oher and undefeated during
the regular season. SMU has, you know, objectively, when you
look at their resume, it's really good. They got a
non conference win over eight and four TCU, another power
for win. Their only loss is to nine and two BYU.
They got a winning record against bowl teams. I think
it's like six and one, and I don't think. I
don't see a scenario where they get left out. I
mean they would have to lose like one hundred to
zero to Clemson. SMU, you're good Tennessee, You're in Ohio State.
Despite the loss to Michigan, you're gonna drop in the rankings.
You're good Indiana. I just don't see anyone overtaking Indiana
despite their their their lack of wins. They don't have
any wins in the P four outside of their big
ten wins, no ranked wins. Blowout to Ohio State. They're
the one who might have the slimmest of chances of
getting overtaken by somebody. But I think they're fine, honestly,
so right there, that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
nine spots already taken Boise State and UNLV. The winner
of that game, I think is Boise State. They're in
Arizona State, Iowa State. That's your that's your Big twelve champion.
I think it's going to be Arizona State. Then on
the bubble, I think what you have is Alabama, Ole Miss, Miami,
and South Carolina. Clemson can be the bubble crasher of
the bunch if they win. That's your field there what
I've already mentioned. And then Clemson. Now you know those
four schools are those are ones I mentioned. They're rooting
hard for SMU to win that game. And then it
becomes a beauty contest between Alabama, Old Miss, Miami and
South Carolina. You know a lot of people say South
Carolina is the hottest team in the SEC. They might
very well be. They are a good football team. But
with all things being equal between Alabama Old Miss South Carolina,
I mean, they're always gonna.
Speaker 4: Go to head to head. You have to.
Speaker 1: That's the only reasonable tie breaker that you can have
between teams. And the fact of the matter is Alabama
Old Miss beat South Carolina earlier in the year, but.
Speaker 4: They're not gonna.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna discount those wins between Alabama and Old Miss.
Alabama's currently ranked ahead. There's no reason to move Ole
Miss ahead of Alabama. What's gonna be the question is
how far does Miami fall from being ranked six? Do
they fall behind Alabama? I think that they will. You
lose two of your final three games, and you know
it's it's just tough to keep Miami up there. They
really opened the door for the committee to drop them
out and also to you know, leave it at a
max of two AC seat. Well, you're gonna have a
max of two ACC teams. You know last year they
shoehorned in Alabama and that they've gotten the benefit of
the doubt year after year after year.
Speaker 4: And if.
Speaker 1: If SMU defeats Clemson, I think it'll be Alabama into
the playoff.
Speaker 2: Jeff, that's a BS. That's a BS.
Speaker 4: The back dooring like that, I think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: That is a B.
Speaker 3: Back They back they back door in like that, man,
because you should not get in to the playoffs if
you have three conference losses. I'm telling you I will
be the first to tell you that they should not
get in. If they have three conference losses, they're not.
Speaker 2: A good team.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be real quick here because it sounds like
you're on Are you under the weather, chef?
Speaker 2: You're not feeling that great.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm getting I'm on the tail end of it.
Speaker 2: So that it because I'm like, oh my god, holy cow, the.
Speaker 1: Worst is behind me. And I'm not used to talking
this much, so but the worst is behind me. But definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was worried. I's gouts.
Speaker 4: He beat some water?
Speaker 2: Does he need some whiskey? Does he need some bourbon
or whatever?
Speaker 3: Okay, man, open microphone time.
Speaker 2: What do you got for a chef?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: I want to get into the to the basketball. We've
been talking football the whole time, and you know, we've
mentioned the last few weeks the struggles of the ACC
in basketball, and you know, a couple of teams have
stepped forward recently. Louisville had a really good tournament down
in the Bahamas, beating Indiana in West Virginia lost a
close game to Oklahoma. Clemson had a fine tournament, knocking
off a quality San Francisco team and then beating Penn State.
Pittsburgh won on a last second shot at Ohio State,
and that was a massive win. That's the positive. It
gets really bad after that. North Carolina went one and
two down in Hawaii, and that included getting run off
the court by Auburn, and they didn't. It was thirteen
points the final difference, and North Carolina really didn't look
like they belong on the court with Auburn.
Speaker 4: Duke.
Speaker 1: Duke is as talented as anyone in the country. The
problem is is, either through youth or john Shire, they
can't close out games. In the final two minutes of
games against good opponents, they completely fall apart. Their possessions
are terrible, They turn the ball over and if they
don't get that corrected, they're gonna end up like a
four or five seed in the NCAA tournament and not
reach the potential they could. You look at the what
the ACC SEC challenges this week, and I won't go
through each game, but just take a look at the
matchups and ask yourself, how many of these games is
the ACC gonna win.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to say, Matthew, it could be really lopsided.
I mean, if there's you know, out of these games,
the ACC might consider it a success. If they win
three or four of the games because they look like
mismatches across the board. You know, we're we're we're not
always high on on some of the over ranking of
SEC teams, but they've got some good basketball teams this year,
some really good teams. They're athletic, they run the floor,
they can shoot, they have size, and yeah, it could
be a rough one for the ACC. I'm hoping that
there'll be a couple of upsets and it's not as
bad as I think it could be. But there's not
a lot of ACC teams who have stepped up in
the non conference. I mean, I give I give big
kudos to Pittsburgh. They're the one who really has and
and Clemson's been reasonable as well. Uh and Louisville has
really come on recently. But by and large, it's not
been a good start for the ACC.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to talk about Virginia Tech here a
little bit, but it's I'm really not going to dog
Brent pry or Mike Young here right now, Jeff, because
I think that there are problems at a higher level
than that, And you know, it kind of reminds me
of what happened at Georgia Tech. What happened at Louisville.
Both institutions went through administrative changes at the president, the
university president level and at the AD level, right And
I think that might have to take place at Virginia
Tech to if there is some changed emphasis on athletics,
because what I saw this year, Jeff, was the cannibalization
of a lot of sports in favor of a six
and six football team, Jeff. And that's hard to take
for a lot of hockey fans, because I think you
would agree, Jeff. Mike Young is a good coach. Mike
Young won the ACC He's not far removed from that.
Mike Young has had a couple of NCAA tournament vins.
If you gave Mike Young the resources, he probably could
do very well in this conference, at least be in
the upper half of this conference. I'm sure of that
he's not getting those resources. Mike Young has been talked
about Jeff as being an offensive coordinator, and I'm actually
dead serious about this that type of term for some
NBA teams because he has such creative offensive sets and
gets guys open. His offensive sets where he gets you know,
people open for the three point shots, the quick three
point shots that they have in the NBA are perfect
at that level.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: When you cannibalize like your other sports and take revenue
away from them, and you end up with a six
and six football team, with a football team that has
a head coach, a first time head coach, right, even
though this is a couple of years in, right, a
first time offensive coordinator, a couple of years in for Sime,
defensive coordinator, a couple.
Speaker 4: Of years in.
Speaker 3: And you're supposed to have a really breakout year this
year with all the experience and talent, and it doesn't happen.
You got to start pointing the fingers somewhere. And I
don't point them at Pry, I don't point them at
Mike Young. I'm going right now at with Babcock, with
bat This is with Babcock's second higher as.
Speaker 2: The football coach.
Speaker 3: You know, for a football coach, Jeff, he's not going
to get a third. You don't get a third opportunity
to hire a football coach. You ride or die with
the one that you have. I mean figuratively die, of course.
You ride or fly with the one that you have, right,
And you know, unless there are some changes at the
position coach area. I'm not seeing a whole lot of
major improvement for Tech next season. Now I could be wrong.
Pop Watson actually looks like he's pretty good. I don't
know how much you saw the Virginia Tech Virginia game, Jeff.
I never did get a chance to see that because.
Speaker 2: I bought comedy.
Speaker 3: I bought tickets to a comedy show on the Saturday
night because I was thinking, in my mind, Jeff, Okay,
there's no way they're going to have to five and
six teams, you know, in a couple of weeks in
the APMs line timeslot. And clearly I was wrong, Jeff.
But Pop Watson's sure, he looks pretty good. But there's
a lot of experience walking out the door. And so
I kind of feel like at this stage, Jeff, that
you know the major revenue sports.
Speaker 2: I just talked about him here.
Speaker 3: Now they're at a major crossroads at Virginia Tech. And
as I said to you, Jeff, Mike Young is a
good coach. He is a good coach, but he can't
come out publicly and say, Jeff, hey, is this what
you took away from my pond of the revenue for
a six and six football team? He can never say that,
right because then he's throwing his boss under the bus.
But with Babcock, isn't doing anybody any favors now, Jeff,
and that I've wrote about this at all Sports Discussion
dot com. There's a lot of movement that's going to
happen in the next couple of years at Tech, right,
I mean, because you look at contracts that are coming up, right,
I mean, uh, in twenty you know, the end of
the uh academic here twenty twenty seven prior, and all
his assistance contracts are up. I didn't know, really, no,
I didn't know, Jeff, that they renewed all the assistants
at the end of last year.
Speaker 2: But they did so.
Speaker 3: All of their con all basically the entirement, the major players,
the football staff, all their contracts end in the end
of the academic year in twenty twenty seven. Mike Yong
will be around here for a while yet the next
eight Whip. Babcock's contract ends in this academic year of
twenty twenty nine, but they're going to have a new
president on board on board before then, that is to say,
if they if they don't renew the existing president, they'll
have somebody else. But Tim Sands contract ends in twenty
twenty twenty seven, so at the same time as the
football coach. There's a lot of major changes, Jeff, that
are going to happen in the next couple of years,
and I will be interested to see how they change athletics.
Tim Sands just recently made it and I have to
go back. I'm probably gonna blog about this, Jeff, but
because I just I just saw something about it on Friday.
But he put word out that there's going to be
a fee increase for students, right because you know, Virginia's
hasn't really resorted to huge increases in student fees to
support athletics, but they're they're going to do some of
that because they realized the new era that they're in.
And of course, you know, Jeff, the new Settle settlement
that's coming out right now, for you know, we have
to the when I say we, I'm talking about all
the colleges have to start paying former players settlements due
to the recent court litigation with the NCAAA. Right, you know,
Mike cash that comes from that, and that's certainly part
of that's going to be coming from that, Jeff. But
you know, we I don't expect high things from Virginia
Tech men's basketball because they lost a lot of the
players this year. Mike Young's doing as good a job
as they can. I'm not sure how much of that
game that you watched when they played Michigan, Jeff, but
they were ahead of Michigan for thirty or forty minutes.
They just could not finish it off. And it's because
they don't have the they don't have the players that
they have. They lost eighty five percent of their production.
Yet I think, Jeff, if I'm not mistaken, Virginia Tech
plays Vanderbilt in.
Speaker 2: The sec ACC SEC.
Speaker 3: Challenge, there are two Virginia Tech players on that Vanderbilt
roster that played for Mike Yeong, And so this is
kind of the quandary that Tech is in right now.
And I rarely, you know, you've noticed that I haven't really.
There hasn't been too many opportunities where I've criticized Mike
Young or or Brent Prye as much this year. I mean,
I did bang on Brent Priye after the after the
first game because of the adjustments, But now I'm warning
that this is basically a lot of this is on
Witch Jeff, and I don't rarely criticize an athletic director
like I have this year. But Jeff, there's going to
be some interesting changes to watch at Virginia Tech in
the next couple of years. I've said a lot there, Jeff,
I've kind of gone on.
Speaker 2: What do you have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think we know Mike Young is
a good basketball coach. He's had NCAA team's ACC title,
but he needs resources because when you look at the
Virginia Tech basketball team right now, I mean they're they're
one of the worst in the accuh and and that's
that's even in the down ACC. And it's about resources.
Just like you said, I mean, you're definitely, you know,
have that finger on the pulse of Virginia Tech more
than me. But from an outside observer, I mean, I
know that Mike Young can coach now, he just has
to be provided the resources to do what he needs
to do.
Speaker 3: The football on the other hand, I mean, it's you're
not getting another opportunity. If you're with You're not getting
another opportunity to hire a football coach. You're out. You're
gonna be out. You're gonna be out because you can't.
I very much doubt that he'll have a third opportunity
to hire a football coach, and I think he may.
I don't have to go and research this jet, but
I think he may have said that as much. So
it's just a huge crossroads that you see just on
a whole lot of levels in the next few years,
with a new president, a new ad, a new football coach. Hell,
you may even have a new men's basketball coach. I mean,
Mike both I can assure you this, Jeff, and we'll
close on this. I can assure you that both Tony
Bennett and Mike Young could probably do some consulting work
in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Would you agree with me on that jet?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 3: Okay, because both of those I wouldn't doubt if Tony
Bennett were hired by the as a consultant tomorrow by
the NBA, they probably want to hire him for defense,
and they'd probably hire Mike Young for offense and some
franchise maybe it's a Washington Wizards.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Locally here right would be in much better shape than
the area now because they keep losing games.
Speaker 2: That would be kind of fun, That would actually be
kind of cool. Wouldn't it.
Speaker 3: That would be hired his consultants in the d m B. Jeff,
it's gonna be great talking tonight, sleep well, get better man.
Speaker 4: All I appreciate it. Good Bye,