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<v Speaker 1>Karen, Yes, is it just me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. It's not just me never. Okay, it

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<v Speaker 1>might actually be just me. But are we seriously overdue

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<v Speaker 1>for a good old fashioned mind expanding, soul shaking, quantum

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<v Speaker 1>jumping conversation? Yes we are, We are right overdue. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we are in luck because our guest today she's like

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<v Speaker 1>Abraham Hicks, Oh, doctor Joe Despenza, and your favorite yoga

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<v Speaker 1>teacher all mixed in together.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, why is in bendy?

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't thought of it that way, nor did I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it that way, but I guess it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But she also happens to run leadership academies, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>the host of a metaphysical TV show as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, She's spent over twenty years diving into the deep

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<v Speaker 1>end of spirituality, personal development, and science. And spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't just find all the answers. She actually rewrote

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<v Speaker 1>some of the questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, I know me too.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got a book endorsed by names like Michael Beckwith

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<v Speaker 1>and Anita Mujani. She talks about banning reality with your thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's got this way of explaining metaphysics that makes

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<v Speaker 1>you go wait a second, how does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>And am I the one creating this reality? To which

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is, of course yes. Buckle up, buttercup, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever wanted to unlock the cheat codes of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe without needing to move to a mountaintop or

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<v Speaker 1>grow a third eye, this one is for you. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Will and unlike Boulder and Scully, so we've

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<v Speaker 1>embarked in a journey of discovery.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and

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<v Speaker 2>metaphysical world.

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<v Speaker 1>We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even

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<v Speaker 1>joined a coven of witches.

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<v Speaker 2>And wait, you joined a coven yep, all on.

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<v Speaker 1>The interests of finding something, anything that will prove that

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<v Speaker 1>there's something beyond this physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Three dimensional world we all live in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey there on, Will thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for coming back and hitting play on this episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Skeptic Motivisations. We are always thrilled to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on board with us. Our guest today, well, she's

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<v Speaker 1>a powerhouse of personal transformation and metaphysical magic. Her name

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<v Speaker 1>is Chris Ashley and she is a coach, an author,

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<v Speaker 1>a speaker, a podcast host and a TV host who

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<v Speaker 1>has spent over two decades diving into the deep end

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<v Speaker 1>of spirituality, science, and expanded consciousness. She's the author of

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<v Speaker 1>Change Your Mind, to Change Your Reality. That this book

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<v Speaker 1>was endorsed, like I mentioned, by spiritual heavy hitters like

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Beckworth, Marcy Scheimoff, and Anita Mujani. And she's here

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<v Speaker 1>to help us unlock the quantum code to living our

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<v Speaker 1>high most aligned awakened lives. It's a big shoe to phil,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know that she's going to do it because

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<v Speaker 1>whether she's hosting her own TV show, Beyond Reality, leading retreats,

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<v Speaker 1>or breaking down the law of attraction like a boss,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris is all about empowering people to shift their inner

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<v Speaker 1>world so that their outer world transforms. Chris Ashley, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. Great.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was the best introduction I've ever gotten.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you do this professionally. No, that was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was over here like cracking up. You just called

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<v Speaker 3>me and Joe Despenser across with Abraham Hicks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like how You're like, yes I am.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, you got to own it, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>You create your own reality. Right, this is I am

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<v Speaker 1>in awe of all the things that you're doing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a had a sneak peek at your show

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<v Speaker 1>and it is wonderful. So the world is in for

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<v Speaker 1>a treat and we couldn't be happier than we are

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<v Speaker 1>to have you on the show. So thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>saying yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 3>to be here. I love the work that you're doing

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<v Speaker 3>in the world. It's amazing and I'm excited to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a part of it. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. We will dive into that in a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but I really want to talk about the really exciting

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like creating your own reality. Right, This is something

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<v Speaker 1>that you are expert level at. The problem is that

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much chitter chatter out there about how

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<v Speaker 1>to do certain things that the message gets lost. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's just dive right in the deep end of the woo.

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<v Speaker 1>How can we create our reality that is aligned with

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<v Speaker 1>our highest selves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's dive right into the biggest question.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Welcome to Skeptic of Positions, Chrizy.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. And you know, I'm assuming your audience

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<v Speaker 3>has a basic understanding of the law of attraction. But

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<v Speaker 3>just in case they don't. We live in this intelligent

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<v Speaker 3>universe that can bring us anything that we want or

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<v Speaker 3>want to be, or want to do or want to have,

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<v Speaker 3>and it knows how to do this in a really simple,

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<v Speaker 3>straightforward way. Like as humans, we think we kind of

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<v Speaker 3>complicate things, right, We think we have to go from

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<v Speaker 3>A to B to C. We have to make one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand dollars this year to make two hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars next year. But the universe knows how to move

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<v Speaker 3>us from A to Z, right, it knows how to

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<v Speaker 3>move mountains. You just have to have the right formula.

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<v Speaker 3>And like you said, you know, I love books and

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<v Speaker 3>movies like The Secret that brought the Law of attraction

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<v Speaker 3>to the masses. Like you said, I had three people

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<v Speaker 3>from The Secret endorse my book. But what I think

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<v Speaker 3>The Secret and a lot of you know, gurus out

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<v Speaker 3>there are missing is they treat the law of attraction

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<v Speaker 3>or the universe kind of like a genie in a bottle. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>you just tell it what you want, then you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of sit back, kick your feet up, and just like

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<v Speaker 3>wait for it to drop into your lab. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>actually a formula that you need to follow and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a complicated formula.

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<v Speaker 1>We get a penhang on, hang on, Okay, I am ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you speak slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Formulas and me don't mix, so I need to

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<v Speaker 1>write it down otherwise I'm lost. So go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>We need like a whiteboard with a greechy marker. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's next on our but to buy list for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, I could see you in the background making formula.

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<v Speaker 3>It's while Karen interviews. Yeah, you know, there's simple things.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing is it's so obvious, but a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people miss it. Is you have to know what

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<v Speaker 3>you want, right. You have to get really clear on

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<v Speaker 3>your vision. You have that, you have to have that

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<v Speaker 3>north star. And so many people don't really know what

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<v Speaker 3>they want. They'll say something like, oh, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of money, or you know, like I

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<v Speaker 3>want happiness. But it's like money is a tool, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's a symbol of freedom or pride or adventure or

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<v Speaker 3>peace of mind or whatever you want it to be.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not really money you want. It's like a

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<v Speaker 3>specific thing, right. So it's about getting really clear on

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<v Speaker 3>your visions. You have that north star, and then it's

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<v Speaker 3>about fueling the emotions of having it already.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned doctor Joe Despenser. He talks about that he's

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<v Speaker 3>the master at this, right, because if we can feel

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<v Speaker 3>gratitude for having something that we don't have yet, it

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<v Speaker 3>tricks our mind into believing that it's real, and we

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<v Speaker 3>attract that into our life, and then we're on that

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<v Speaker 3>frequency of gratitude, so we attract so much more things

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<v Speaker 3>into our life that make us grateful. Right, yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like that whole adage that says

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<v Speaker 1>fake it to humique it. You got to fool day

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<v Speaker 1>a dog. No, I am learning French.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about a dodges while eating pistachios.

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<v Speaker 1>What you make in fun of me? I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>That is how you say pistachios. That's how you say

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<v Speaker 1>the words. So anyway, Chris, sorry, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, I love it. I didn't understand

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<v Speaker 3>what word you were saying either, And then I was like, oh, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair, I'm helping provide clarity.

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<v Speaker 3>This is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like banging up, right, No fair, we met, we hung,

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<v Speaker 2>we like worked like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye can't hold that against me though, that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>We're guiding you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, fine your head person.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, You're totally right. I love that phrase.

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<v Speaker 3>Fake it to you make it. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>one of the secrets to unlocking all of this. But

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<v Speaker 3>one of the big things that the Lava tra not sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>the secret missed is you have to take action, right,

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<v Speaker 3>You have to take steps towards your vision because action

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<v Speaker 3>inspires the universe. Like right, you create a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of momentum, and the universe meets you where you're at

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<v Speaker 3>and like wooshes you forward. And it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 3>be a big step, Like never underestimate the power of

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<v Speaker 3>a small step. From one small step, you might meet

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<v Speaker 3>people on your path who can help you further. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>tools might appear to you that weren't there before, Opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>might drop into your lap. So it's really about just

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<v Speaker 3>taking that little bit of a step. And then it's

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<v Speaker 3>about surrendering, letting go, trusting right that doors that didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even exist will appear and unlock for you, and that

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<v Speaker 3>pathways will open up. So that's the basic formula, and

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<v Speaker 3>then there's a whole lot more to get into. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'll pause and let you kind of ponder that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you said you were talking about being specific

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<v Speaker 2>with what you want and how money is a tool

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people don't know. But what if

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<v Speaker 2>it is that you want to be happy? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't know necessarily what's going to make you happy,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's hard to ask for that specific thing. You

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<v Speaker 2>just want to feel that feeling. How do you put

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<v Speaker 2>that out there? Girl?

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta good answer for it. So there's this exercise

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<v Speaker 3>that I love to do that helps people get clear

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<v Speaker 3>on their vision. And this is going to be depending

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<v Speaker 3>on when this airs. This might be a sneak peek,

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<v Speaker 3>but otherwise you should come to this amazing summit. I

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<v Speaker 3>heard about that new reality TV's putting on and you

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<v Speaker 3>might learn more about this. But what I do is

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<v Speaker 3>I have people divide their life into some in different categories,

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<v Speaker 3>things like career, romantic relationships, relationships with everyone else, health, leisure,

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<v Speaker 3>like what you do for your hobbies, tangibles, things you

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<v Speaker 3>can touch and if I forgot one or two, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>find them out at the summit. But I have people

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<v Speaker 3>rate their life on a scale of one to ten

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<v Speaker 3>in each of these areas and be really honest with themselves,

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<v Speaker 3>because then they find that baseline and then they can

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<v Speaker 3>measure where they go from there, right, So one is

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<v Speaker 3>like horrible, miserable, you can't go on ten is like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, this is perfect. I'm living the dream,

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<v Speaker 3>like nothing could make this better. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people are really surprised by how they rate these categories.

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<v Speaker 3>And then what I have people do is say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got your rating. Now I want you to make

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<v Speaker 3>a list of what you would need to rate each

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<v Speaker 3>of these a ten out of ten, and like put

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<v Speaker 3>And it's it's amazing how that helps you clarify your vision.

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<v Speaker 1>I what I love about what you just said is

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<v Speaker 1>And that is why we are thrilled to have you

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<v Speaker 2>They're clear steps. It's not like, oh, how do I

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<v Speaker 2>go about that? I pick the list? Yeah, and what

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<v Speaker 2>would improve it? That's fantastic, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So beyond the obvious, what would you say? Is the

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<v Speaker 3>So there's the stat that I read recently that ninety

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to be loved. Because people are afraid that if

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<v Speaker 3>love them right, or that other people will come at

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<v Speaker 3>them with their opinions right, like the Internet trolls or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they're so afraid of other people's opinions and failure.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's really about like being afraid that you're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be loved whether you change or stay the same.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why it's really great to have amazing people

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<v Speaker 2>Or those opinions people are brave behind their computers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, false bravery, right, but okay, so full disclosure. I

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<v Speaker 1>have been doing all kinds of abundance activations and meditations,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been listening to Abraham and Joe Despenza and all

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<v Speaker 3>So this is that second part where I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot more to unpack. That was the basic formula.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm really really glad that you asked this questions.

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<v Speaker 3>our language. Right, this never happens, aren't coming right? Like

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. But it's so true, right because if

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<v Speaker 3>you're I mean, we all know these people that are like, oh, good,

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<v Speaker 3>or things always go wrong, and then it's like things

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<v Speaker 3>getting your language laser tight is the first thing I

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<v Speaker 3>would say to those people. But there are some things

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<v Speaker 3>cause physical disease, but they also create this filter through

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<v Speaker 3>your manifesting, right, it's that unconscious that Joe Despenser likes

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about. Second forgiveness is a really big thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something I talk about probably more than anything these days,

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<v Speaker 3>because if you're holding onto grudges, that's poison, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>holding onto poison only hurts you. And it's that same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to seep through your unconscious and then your

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<v Speaker 3>belief systems. Right especially kids before the age of seven,

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<v Speaker 3>they're in theta brain wave mode. They're just downloading. They're programmable.

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<v Speaker 3>So the opinions of the adults you grew up around

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<v Speaker 3>cultural conditioning, that teacher that said you're a great singer,

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<v Speaker 3>All of that becomes your inner voice, your lens through

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<v Speaker 3>which create your emotions, which create your reality. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>about changing your story, changing your perspective, kind of unlearning

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<v Speaker 3>all of these things so that you can be free

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interesting that you mentioned grudges because I

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<v Speaker 2>really hadn't thought about that, but thinking about it now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you get into a quarrel with somebody and

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<v Speaker 2>just really pissed at them, and you hold on to that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it eats at you and it's almost like a

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<v Speaker 2>they could care less. They're off doing their thing, happy

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<v Speaker 2>the quarters on all these hormones that get released and

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<v Speaker 2>It's affecting being able to manifest. So it's man Tho's grudges.

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<v Speaker 2>You just gotta let them go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I heard someone say that. That's like, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>living rent free in your mind when I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>So I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't like it, and I love that, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>because I even I tell our daughter all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>be careful what you say after the words I am,

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<v Speaker 1>because I am as a powerful activation that whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling the universe you are, and the universe is

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you what you believe that you are.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of saying I am and then going on

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<v Speaker 1>to say how tired you are, you can say I

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<v Speaker 1>feel exhaustion. I feel like I need to rest more.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am. That's key because I am is the

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<v Speaker 1>word of God. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like our nephew said, you know, I don't say

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<v Speaker 2>I am sorry, say I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right right, super important. So I love that because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't talk about that enough. We are so free

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<v Speaker 1>with our words without realizing the damage that we're actually doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's a great reminder, So thank you. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to write that down and put it on posting notes everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And then just even an extra thing, like as a

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<v Speaker 2>whatever age, I remember thinking I can't ever you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you look in the mirror and I'm just like, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear me say that, because in my mind I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing this to protect her and not wanting her to

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<v Speaker 2>start talking to herself like that. But meanwhile I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I should protect myself too, because that, like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, yeah, totally. And you know, also for those

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<v Speaker 3>people that are like it's not working, even just like

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<v Speaker 3>using the phraseic up until now, this hasn't worked like

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, just like frees up the future, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's a little trick. That's a big trick, a big trick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a big little trick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's awesome. Okay, So when NIXT questions a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on the controversial side, because there's lots of lots

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But then what are your thoughts on trauma

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<v Speaker 1>or illnesses that we are that are terrible for people?

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<v Speaker 1>these onto ourselves or is there some other mechanism in

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think that's a really important question because it's

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<v Speaker 3>the number one pushback that I see people getting when

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<v Speaker 3>but this, this and this other thing have gone wrong

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<v Speaker 3>in my life or like my ancestors went through this,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like everyone has a story, right, every family

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<v Speaker 3>tree has a story too, but we get to choose

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<v Speaker 3>our reality. Well, let me back up and just get

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<v Speaker 3>like a little bit woo woo, And I know you're

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<v Speaker 3>okay with that. Believe I believe personally that we choose

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<v Speaker 3>what we're going to look like, our avatars, who our

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<v Speaker 3>before we incarnate, and all of this is to kind

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunity to grow. But free will exist, right like

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<v Speaker 3>we choose if we're going to grow from adversities or not.

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<v Speaker 3>once you discover that easter egg, tremendous healing, leveling up

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<v Speaker 3>and growth takes place. Now, bad things quote unquote, bad

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<v Speaker 3>things happen, right like everyone goes through trauma. Everyone has

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<v Speaker 3>you can become more unconscious, or you can use that

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to become kinder, more empathetic, practice forgiveness, get healthier,

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<v Speaker 3>get better, level up, And it's always a choice. You

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<v Speaker 3>have a choice. Now there are millions of realities that exist,

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<v Speaker 3>and you get to choose the reality that you want,

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<v Speaker 3>and the more that you focus on the reality you want,

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<v Speaker 3>the more the reality handed to you by default sort

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<v Speaker 3>of fades into the background. So there's there's always things

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's always is wars, there's always injustices happening. But you

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<v Speaker 3>like hide your head in the sand, like this isn't

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual bypassing, but you don't have to get like emotionally

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<v Speaker 3>Like I never have the news on in my house

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<v Speaker 3>because that's like my mentor Mary Morris says, CNN stands

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<v Speaker 3>for constantly negative news, And it's like it's so true, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>like you don't have to choose to get like the

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<v Speaker 3>universe is like the Facebook algorithm. Whatever you get emotional about,

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<v Speaker 3>good emotions or bad emotions. So yeah, we really do

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<v Speaker 3>we come here, but it's all for our own growth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all so that we get to evolve and consciousness

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<v Speaker 3>gets to evolve.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a that's a tough one to swallow sometimes though,

422
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<v Speaker 1>when something like that is happening to you and you're

423
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<v Speaker 1>not aware of the decisions you made before you came on.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's a difficult one, but it is one

425
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<v Speaker 1>that we've got to come to terms with if we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to align.

427
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<v Speaker 2>And it makes the lessons more challenging to learn.

428
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<v Speaker 1>Well, It's one would say that the more challenging the lesson,

429
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<v Speaker 1>the better you learn it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say that. I was going to

431
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<v Speaker 2>be the one that says that. I would say, but

432
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<v Speaker 2>it is interesting. I still have struggle wrapping my head

433
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<v Speaker 2>around that too, just because then I think of like

434
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<v Speaker 2>little children that are born, you know, in these terrible situations,

435
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<v Speaker 2>and what lesson as a child can you learn?

436
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<v Speaker 3>Well, the lesson might not be Okay, I have answers,

437
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<v Speaker 3>And again this is like my opinion based on like

438
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<v Speaker 3>my research and experience, and like I'm still here learning

439
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<v Speaker 3>with you right like this. I'm not being like this

440
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<v Speaker 3>is the end all be all, but like, here's one

441
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<v Speaker 3>way to think about that. A couple of things. One

442
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<v Speaker 3>the lesson might not be for the child. The lesson

443
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<v Speaker 3>might be for the parents, or for the caregivers or

444
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<v Speaker 3>for the people in that kid's life. But let's get

445
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<v Speaker 3>a little bit like mind bendi here. So and I

446
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<v Speaker 3>love this, Like I just have to preface this by saying,

447
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<v Speaker 3>like I love science because quantum physics, epigenetics, neuroscience. We

448
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<v Speaker 3>are living in a day and age where science backs

449
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<v Speaker 3>up with mystics and spirituality have been saying for eons

450
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<v Speaker 3>and it is so exciting. Absolutely, So imagine that you

451
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<v Speaker 3>have to make a choice. Maybe it's do I stay

452
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<v Speaker 3>in this relationship or do I quit this job. We'll

453
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<v Speaker 3>say do I quit this job, and you decide to

454
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<v Speaker 3>quit the job. Now a timeline branch is off, and

455
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<v Speaker 3>there is another version of you that makes the other choice.

456
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<v Speaker 3>They stayed in the job. I can't remember if you

457
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<v Speaker 3>left the job. They stayed in the job. So two

458
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<v Speaker 3>timelines have branched off, and then each time each one

459
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<v Speaker 3>of you has to make another choice. The timelines branch again,

460
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<v Speaker 3>and this keeps happening. So there are all these timelines

461
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<v Speaker 3>running kind of in parallel, starring you as the lead actor. Now,

462
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<v Speaker 3>some of these timelines are very similar to the one

463
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<v Speaker 3>you're living. Others are vastly different, as you can imagine, right,

464
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<v Speaker 3>So somewhere out there there is a version of you

465
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<v Speaker 3>that has everything you want, everything Will has on his

466
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<v Speaker 3>manifest journal that he was talking about, like someone has that, right,

467
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<v Speaker 3>and and quantum physics even says that there are an

468
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<v Speaker 3>infinite number of possibilities just waiting to be chosen, right,

469
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<v Speaker 3>waiting to be chosen into existence. But everything you can

470
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<v Speaker 3>imagine and everything you can't exists out there in this

471
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<v Speaker 3>kind of realm, this cloud of possibilities. Now, Dolores Cannon,

472
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<v Speaker 3>who is a past life aggression hypnotist, and many others

473
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<v Speaker 3>have talked about how we are just a piece of

474
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<v Speaker 3>a soul, like our true self, our higher self that

475
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<v Speaker 3>sits on the other side of the veil, has so

476
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<v Speaker 3>much energy it couldn't possibly come into a human body.

477
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<v Speaker 3>So just a tiny piece of you incarnates and the

478
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<v Speaker 3>rest yous on the other side. But imagine that there

479
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<v Speaker 3>are tiny pieces of you incarnated in many many different lives,

480
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<v Speaker 3>and time exists differently, right, like past lives. Past lives

481
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<v Speaker 3>are parallel lives because there is no time on the

482
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<v Speaker 3>other side. So we have all these these timelines branching off.

483
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<v Speaker 3>There's all of these versions of you. Now, why would

484
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<v Speaker 3>this happen. It's because we are here to have experiences.

485
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<v Speaker 3>We bring those experiences from all these lifetimes back into

486
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<v Speaker 3>our higher self. So there's probably a timeline where you

487
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<v Speaker 3>died as an infant, there's probably a timeline where you

488
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<v Speaker 3>live to be one hundred years old, and every other

489
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<v Speaker 3>age in between for the purpose of having that experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Because then you get to bring all of these cumulative

491
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<v Speaker 3>timelines back together, and it's like what did we learn?

492
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<v Speaker 3>And then it's like what are you going to bring

493
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<v Speaker 3>back from your life? Right? So yeah, it's heartbreaking as

494
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<v Speaker 3>a mother, Like it's like the most heartbreaking thought in

495
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<v Speaker 3>the world, you know, I have like a fourteen month old.

496
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<v Speaker 3>But all of this is for is for your good right,

497
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<v Speaker 3>for your learning, for your leveling up, for your gross right.

498
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<v Speaker 1>And there's a school of thought that says that when

499
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<v Speaker 1>you were manifesting, when you're using the law of attraction,

500
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<v Speaker 1>what you're actually doing is your timeline jumping right, you're

501
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<v Speaker 1>jumping to a timeline that already has what it is

502
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<v Speaker 1>that you're trying to bring to you. So that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very cool.

504
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<v Speaker 3>Well, just to like keep going on this for like

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<v Speaker 3>one more second with back to like the original question

506
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<v Speaker 3>of you know, how do we deal with the fact

507
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<v Speaker 3>that we create our own reality? Like if you didn't

508
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<v Speaker 3>research looking to support your beliefs, like you're going to

509
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<v Speaker 3>find something to back it up, right, like, no matter

510
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<v Speaker 3>what it is, And there are always different realities going on,

511
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<v Speaker 3>Like you can live next door to someone and seem

512
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<v Speaker 3>to live in a very different reality than them, you know,

513
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<v Speaker 3>but like you know, like each one like kind of

514
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<v Speaker 3>adamantly like saying that their way is right and everyone

515
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<v Speaker 3>else's way is wrong. But there's always going to be

516
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<v Speaker 3>information and sources and facts out there that are going

517
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<v Speaker 3>to back up what you say. But you get to

518
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<v Speaker 3>make a choice, right, This is all about choice, and

519
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<v Speaker 3>there are no wrong choices either. Like that's that's my

520
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<v Speaker 3>definition of empathy is like understanding that someone else's path

521
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<v Speaker 3>and choices are equally as valid as yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so here's another mind trippy thing that I thought

523
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<v Speaker 1>about a couple of months ago, and I think I

524
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<v Speaker 1>talked to you about it. But there is very clearly

525
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<v Speaker 1>a difference of opinion, especially in this country right now

526
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<v Speaker 1>when it comes with politics. There is not to get

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<v Speaker 1>into a political conversation because we do not want to

528
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<v Speaker 1>go there. But there is one side seeing something one

529
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<v Speaker 1>particular way, the other side seeing it the complete opposite.

530
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it couldn't be more opposite. And both sides

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<v Speaker 1>claim to have the moral high ground because they know

532
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<v Speaker 1>this is actually proven, this is true, this is so

533
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<v Speaker 1>what if God forbid? What if we're all living in

534
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<v Speaker 1>our own individual reality where our facts align exactly as

535
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<v Speaker 1>we believe or we see, and yet we are interacting

536
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<v Speaker 1>with others who are living in their own reality but

537
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<v Speaker 1>are juxtaposed into ours. So what they're saying is correct

538
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<v Speaker 1>in their reality. This direction is the right one to

539
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<v Speaker 1>go down, because it is it exists in its reality.

540
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<v Speaker 1>But yet we are living in a different reality together.

541
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<v Speaker 1>But both facts are correct, you know, the whole thing,

542
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<v Speaker 1>but alternative facts. What if that was real? And that's

543
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<v Speaker 1>that's the craziest thing for me to wrap my head around.

544
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<v Speaker 1>What if my green is your yellow?

545
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<v Speaker 2>And I've always wondered that you can't.

546
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<v Speaker 1>You can't know for sure, right, what I see is

547
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<v Speaker 1>green might be something totally different for you, and we

548
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<v Speaker 1>have no way of verifying it because we live in

549
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<v Speaker 1>different realities. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that question that you're posing, and then to

551
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.240
<v Speaker 3>just take it a step further, like we're all connected,

552
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<v Speaker 3>Like we're all parts of the same, We're all reflections

553
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<v Speaker 3>of each other. Like I don't know if you've ever

554
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<v Speaker 3>read that book The Egg. Have you heard that?

555
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<v Speaker 1>I have? I have for that. It's a short story, right, yeah, and.

556
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<v Speaker 3>There's like a YouTube version of it, And correct me

557
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<v Speaker 3>if I'm getting it wrong. But the whole idea is this,

558
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<v Speaker 3>this guy dies and and God basically is like it

559
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<v Speaker 3>turns out like every single person on Earth is just

560
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<v Speaker 3>him and he's just been doing this like over and over,

561
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<v Speaker 3>and the whole universe was created for him, and he's

562
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<v Speaker 3>the only single soul in the universe and God's just

563
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<v Speaker 3>like trying to perfect him, and like that just blows

564
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<v Speaker 3>my mind to you. But like I think there's right.

565
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<v Speaker 3>I know, it's like gives me goose bumps. Yeah, but

566
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<v Speaker 3>I think there's like some te to that because we

567
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<v Speaker 3>all come from the same thing. We're all like parts

568
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<v Speaker 3>of source. We're just kind of fractals of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, just a little aside that has nothing to do

570
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<v Speaker 1>with anything we're talking about, but it blew my mind

571
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<v Speaker 1>when I read the Egg. It is actually written by

572
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<v Speaker 1>Andy Weer, who wrote The Martian.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's all alone and yeah, so it is.

574
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<v Speaker 1>So just a little aside because it was trippy for

575
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<v Speaker 1>me because I read I read the short story because

576
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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan of Anywhere's writings, so it just didn't

577
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<v Speaker 1>connect until I was like, this is great. I mean

578
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<v Speaker 1>it's totally different anything he's written. So anyway, I digress. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>such an interesting thought process.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. And then is it the same person

581
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<v Speaker 2>and every other timeline? Like it's it's like an infinite question.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just like with all the diverging and the decisions,

583
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<v Speaker 2>and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually surprised that you're taking that so well when

585
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<v Speaker 1>how many times have I said to you that you

586
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<v Speaker 1>are another me and you are adamantly opposed to that.

587
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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I I'm not saying what my belief

588
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<v Speaker 2>is right.

589
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<v Speaker 1>Now, Okay, alright, alright, alright, fair enough.

590
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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting, you know, and I love thinking about it

591
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<v Speaker 2>and the possibilities and it does. It can hurt your

592
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<v Speaker 2>brain after a while, but it's just it's an incredible thought.

593
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<v Speaker 3>It's fun to ponder.

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<v Speaker 1>No, for sure, any last minute things we need to

595
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<v Speaker 1>talk about in terms of manifestation, law of attraction. I

596
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<v Speaker 1>do want to have other topics you want to touch on, but.

597
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<v Speaker 2>You did let me ask that question.

598
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<v Speaker 1>No, please please do yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are incredible at this and you help people

600
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<v Speaker 2>and with this formula and everything. Can you give us

601
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<v Speaker 2>an example of someone that you worked with that just

602
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<v Speaker 2>had a really tremendous outcome from learning.

603
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<v Speaker 1>Really, we need to take a quick pause, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back right after these messages and now back

605
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<v Speaker 1>to the skeptic metaphysicians. Hey there, Before we continue with

606
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<v Speaker 1>the interview, we.

607
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<v Speaker 2>Have a small ask se.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that there are tons of options out there,

609
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<v Speaker 1>and having you decide to come along on our journey

610
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<v Speaker 1>of discovery with us, that's an absolute honor for us.

611
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<v Speaker 1>But if you know someone who would benefit from hearing

612
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<v Speaker 1>the messages that we are sharing on the show, won't

613
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you do them in us a favor and share the

614
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<v Speaker 1>show with them? Take a moment right now and forward

615
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<v Speaker 1>this episode to that person. That's it, just a simple

616
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>ask for your help and spreading the word. We'd appreciate

617
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 1>it so much and see, not only will it help

618
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<v Speaker 1>get the word out about us, but it also might

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<v Speaker 1>just change someone's life for the better. Hey, thanks to

620
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<v Speaker 1>your help on this. Without further ado, let's get on

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<v Speaker 1>to the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you give us an example of someone that you

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<v Speaker 2>worked with that just had a really tremendous outcome from

624
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<v Speaker 2>learning really?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, totally. I write about one in my book.

626
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<v Speaker 3>Her name is Abby, and it's actually perfect. We were

627
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<v Speaker 3>talking about the language thing that was her thing. So

628
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<v Speaker 3>she knew about the law of attraction before she came

629
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<v Speaker 3>to me, and she had actually used it pretty successfully.

630
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<v Speaker 3>Like she like on paper, had like everything right in

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<v Speaker 3>every category except one, Like she used a law of

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<v Speaker 3>attraction to get a raise. She had a really great

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<v Speaker 3>social life. She was like really into CrossFit, so she was,

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<v Speaker 3>she was attractive, she was in her late thirties, she

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<v Speaker 3>was she was doing great like everything else in her life.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, she'd use the law attraction to

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<v Speaker 3>get a raised, Like she had read all the books,

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<v Speaker 3>she'd watched the YouTube videos, but like she was really

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<v Speaker 3>stuck in romantic relationships, and she's like, man, all she

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<v Speaker 3>wanted was a family, like more than anything, and she

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<v Speaker 3>had kind of like dated a lot of duds along

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<v Speaker 3>the way, like people like she would think she was

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<v Speaker 3>getting really close and then like meeting someone that just

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<v Speaker 3>seems so great, like they would kind of love bomb

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<v Speaker 3>her and her flowers, and then they'd kind of ghost,

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<v Speaker 3>and like this pattern kept happening over and over again,

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<v Speaker 3>where she'd be like, this is the one, and then

648
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<v Speaker 3>they weren't the one. And she came to me and

649
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<v Speaker 3>she was like this always happens. And we've realized it

650
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<v Speaker 3>was like this language that she was using, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>it's really hard to hear that the common denominator in

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<v Speaker 3>a string of failed relationships is you right. That's that's

653
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<v Speaker 3>something that like you can't really hear from most people,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it helps to go talk to a coach, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's hard if like a friend is going to

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<v Speaker 3>say that. And I wasn't that blunt with her, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we kind of figured out that it was

658
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of like the language she was using and

659
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of this programming and a lot of these

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<v Speaker 3>she got so comfortable with the fact that she was

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<v Speaker 3>the girl with the failed relationships that it almost became

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<v Speaker 3>her identity, and we just did some work to redo that,

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<v Speaker 3>and she ended up meeting this amazing guy like two

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<v Speaker 3>months later and they have a baby now. And this

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<v Speaker 3>was a couple of years ago, but like, she's one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite stories because she came in like being

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<v Speaker 3>so close, you know what I mean, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like again, that's a perfect example of how she

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<v Speaker 1>was blocking her own success this by those limiting beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's a perfect an ample.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's one of the thing I love about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this formula that you've given because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>don't think about that that part like that I've I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't heard that before. I've heard you have to want

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<v Speaker 2>something or not wanting you have to you know, know

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<v Speaker 2>what you want and then imagine or feel like you

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<v Speaker 2>already have it, But I hadn't heard about like the

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<v Speaker 2>self talk. So I think that is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>really helpful to people listening to.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and to me, to all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's like having to constantly like notice what you're noticing,

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<v Speaker 3>like watching your thoughts too, write like you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>have to like develop that habit and then once you

685
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<v Speaker 3>develop it, you you're so quick to pick it up.

686
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<v Speaker 3>But it's like it's a muscle, right, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>like train yourself to do it, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything else from that, okay, because now suddenly more are

689
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<v Speaker 1>popping up in my head. But I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Beyond Reality because it's a brand new TV show.

691
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 1>It's just started airing on New Reality TV, and we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be more thrilled to have you as part of

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<v Speaker 1>the lineup because just looking at your trailer for the show.

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<v Speaker 3>We often believe that the world we see, touch and

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<v Speaker 3>hear is all there is, but beneath the surface, an

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<v Speaker 3>entire unseen world pulses with energy and mystery. Quantum physics

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<v Speaker 3>offers us glimpses into this hidden realm. The law of

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<v Speaker 3>attraction hints at unseen forces shaping our lives, and ancient

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<v Speaker 3>writings tell stories of visitors from other worlds, near death experiences,

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<v Speaker 3>energy healers, and those who remember their past lives all

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<v Speaker 3>point to something greater that defies our understanding. What if

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<v Speaker 3>everything you believed with such certain was merely a facade.

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<v Speaker 3>For over two decades, I've sought to uncover hidden knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>join me as we explore the grand mysteries of life,

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00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 3>where the impossible becomes possible and the unseen becomes reality.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say, I love the trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such a great it's the show open right

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<v Speaker 1>that you use on every episode, and it is such

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<v Speaker 1>a way to like gut punch you into what you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to experience. Right. It's such as a great, great

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00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>piece of production. So for those who haven't had a

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00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 1>chance to watch the show like we have, because we

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<v Speaker 1>have insight information, tell us what is the show about?

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<v Speaker 1>Why should someone be really excited about watching it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I've been a truth seeker since two thousand

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00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 3>and two when I had my spiritual awakening, and beyond

717
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 3>reality lets me explore all of the grand mysteries of

718
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 3>life that I love geeking out about and going down

719
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 3>rabbit holes about. And I get to bring in these

720
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.599
<v Speaker 3>amazing people who are living these things every day and

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00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:13.559
<v Speaker 3>talk to them about it. So it's everything from UFOs

722
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 3>and aliens to quantum physics and stimulation theory, to energy

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00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 3>healing and psychic abilities, remote viewing, you name it, like

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<v Speaker 3>any of those amazing mysteries, and it is so fun

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<v Speaker 3>to just hear all of these people talk about it

726
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 3>and their experiences and learn so much along the way.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been having so much fun having these conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>Like right after this, I'm jumping on with someone who

729
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<v Speaker 3>has spent like decades researching past lives to the point

730
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<v Speaker 3>where he's actually gone and like, sorry, kids who remember

731
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<v Speaker 3>past lives to the point where he's researched the past

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<v Speaker 3>lives that they remember and has like found some of

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<v Speaker 3>the people that they used to be and like I

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<v Speaker 3>have goosebum saying that, and I'm so excited to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to him. So it's just been really fun. I had

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<v Speaker 3>someone on who like talks to crystals, another one who's

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<v Speaker 3>an animal communicator, so just really really cool, just cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You also have a podcast right that you host. How

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<v Speaker 1>is that different from what you do on the podcast?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally. So the podcast is called Change Your Mind

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<v Speaker 3>with Chris Ashley, and it focuses on personal development, spirituality,

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<v Speaker 3>and science. It's it's more on the personal development side,

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what a lot of what I

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<v Speaker 3>talk So my book is like kind of half and

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00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 3>half my book. I talk a lot about forgiveness and

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00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 3>what to do when challenges come up and how to

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00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:47.079
<v Speaker 3>be adaptable and find resilience, and like all of that

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<v Speaker 3>lives on the podcast or the more like woo woo

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<v Speaker 3>side of the metaphysical and like the deep spiritual New Age.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what you word you describe, but

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<v Speaker 3>I guess metaphysical that lives on the TV s and

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<v Speaker 3>it works really well. The podcast is part of the

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles Tribune podcast Network, which sounds weird that a

754
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<v Speaker 3>newspaper owns a podcast network, but we put on massive

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<v Speaker 3>events in the personal development realm every month and it's

756
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<v Speaker 3>spearheaded by a woman who is Tony Robbin's EVP of

757
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 3>production for eighteen years, so like really big names. So

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<v Speaker 3>I've been on stage with like Les Brown and doctor

759
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<v Speaker 3>Joe Vitally and Sharon Lecter and Jim Quick all these people.

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<v Speaker 3>But because of that, it's like really good that that

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<v Speaker 3>stays in more personal development realm. And I'm actually so

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<v Speaker 3>glad that this opportunity came up to work with you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>because I love the side of like truth seeking and

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<v Speaker 3>just talking to fascinating people and kind of exploring all

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<v Speaker 3>these mysteries. So it's nice that I get to like

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<v Speaker 3>feed that side of my soul too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's nice to have you, how long?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is, And I feel the same way when

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<v Speaker 2>you come to this kind of side, the metaphysical side,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just so much wonder in the world that just

771
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<v Speaker 2>opens up. So you know, yes, we have all the

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<v Speaker 2>regular stuff in the science and that, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>just such like the wo that it's like it's just

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating and it's just so much fun to dive into

775
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<v Speaker 2>and learn all these different modalities and all these different experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I had a spiritual awakening in two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and two, and like I didn't talk about this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff for like almost like two decades, Like it just

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<v Speaker 3>didn't feel like, I don't know, like the world was ready.

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<v Speaker 3>And now it's like the world is like hungry for it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's like all over social media and like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, like when I was reading Zacharia Sitchen in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and two, like no one was talking about

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<v Speaker 3>ancient aliens and now there's like a TV show that's

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<v Speaker 3>been on for like fifteen seasons or something, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like it feels like the world is waking up. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, I'm glad you mentioned that you're spiritual awakening.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you share with us a little bit of what

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<v Speaker 2>that was?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mind if I get like a little personal No?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely, as comfortable as you can be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So this is usually how I start my podcast interviews.

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<v Speaker 3>But we dove in and it was it was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I love, but you started it different because it got

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<v Speaker 3>me in my toes a little bit. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like probably most people who are coaches or healers are

800
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<v Speaker 3>trying to help other people. Starting with my own trauma,

801
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 3>I was sexually abused by a family member for four years,

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<v Speaker 3>starting at twelve years old. And I had this really big,

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<v Speaker 3>tight knit, extended Italian family. We were like the Italian

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<v Speaker 3>version of my big fat Greek wedding if you've ever

805
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Speaker 3>seen that movie, of course, Yeah, yeah, Like everyone's into

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<v Speaker 3>each other's business. And when they found out what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>most of them disowned me. And I was getting letters

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<v Speaker 3>and voicemails from people who had been like second mothers

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<v Speaker 3>to me telling me they didn't love me anymore and

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't their family anymore. And as you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 3>this left me with a lot of what I call

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<v Speaker 3>low vibration. Emotions like anger and guilt and shame that

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<v Speaker 3>as a young adolescent, I didn't know how to cope with,

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<v Speaker 3>like most adults don't know how to cope with those

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<v Speaker 3>types of emotions, and it put me in a really

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<v Speaker 3>dark place. I was getting in trouble in school, self harming,

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing drugs. I was just like angry at

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<v Speaker 3>the world. And then someone handed me a book that

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<v Speaker 3>changed my way of thinking and being and moving through life.

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<v Speaker 3>And it made me realize that there were other ways

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<v Speaker 3>to view the universe and reality. And I remember flipping

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<v Speaker 3>through the pages and having it feel like truth for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time. And it was like I was a

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<v Speaker 3>sleeper agent right, like something inside of me just woke up.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I finished that book, I started reaching for

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<v Speaker 3>more and I just became insatiable, and I was devouring

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<v Speaker 3>every metaphysical, spiritual, New Age personal development book I can

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<v Speaker 3>get my hands on, and I started going to retreats

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<v Speaker 3>and workshops and I found teachers to study under and

830
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<v Speaker 3>my life did this total one eighty. But the other

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<v Speaker 3>side of the story is that as I was changing

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<v Speaker 3>my mind and starting to get better, my mother started

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<v Speaker 3>to get worse because her family had been ripped down

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes, and she didn't have these teachers and books

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<v Speaker 3>and healing modalities. I was doing tons of healing modalities.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was ung covering like the secrets of

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<v Speaker 3>the universe. But I was like doing the hard inner work.

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't realize it. So my mom it started

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<v Speaker 3>to manifest as physical illness for her. She got cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>and she got a bunch of like really weird like

841
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:20.880
<v Speaker 3>ailments that her doctors couldn't even describe. So they did

842
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<v Speaker 3>what they do. They gave her pills, and then they

843
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 3>gave her pills for the side effects of those pills.

844
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<v Speaker 3>And they were kind of throwing everything at the wall

845
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:29.719
<v Speaker 3>hoping something would stick. And at the height of it,

846
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 3>she was on a fentanyl patch. She was on Delauded,

847
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:34.519
<v Speaker 3>which is a pretty intense narcotic. She was on ten

848
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 3>other pills. She slept for all but a few hours

849
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<v Speaker 3>of daylight. She would not off at the dinner table,

850
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.119
<v Speaker 3>she would forget conversations we had the day before. She fell,

851
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 3>all the time, always covered in bruises. And that lasted

852
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.519
<v Speaker 3>almost fifteen years. And I had this compounded guilt that

853
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 3>I had destroyed my family and broken my mother. But

854
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.599
<v Speaker 3>I believe everything happens for a reason, as you know.

855
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 3>And I realized that my mother is my biggest teacher,

856
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:04.280
<v Speaker 3>because for every step she took deeper into depression and

857
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 3>illness and victimization. I climbed in the other direction out

858
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 3>of that dark tunnel because I was seeing firsthand, right

859
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.320
<v Speaker 3>in front of me, what happens to a human body

860
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 3>and spirit when they make that choice, because I do

861
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 3>think healing is a choice. And then I saw what

862
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 3>was happening to my life is I was changing my mind.

863
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 3>And I made a promise to myself that I would

864
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.800
<v Speaker 3>do everything I could to heal physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.

865
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.119
<v Speaker 3>And it's a promise I've kept. And like I said,

866
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 3>like I'm still if you're here, you're still you still

867
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 3>got work to do. Like I'm still reading a book

868
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 3>a week. I'm a total book nerd. Like I still

869
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.280
<v Speaker 3>take all the courses I can, go to all the

870
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.599
<v Speaker 3>workshops I can, Like I'm turning forty this year, and

871
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 3>like all I want is to go to a Joe

872
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Despensea workshop. Actually, And like my husband's like really okay.

873
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 3>My in laws were like, let's go to Hawaii. I

874
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 3>was like I want to do this, so so yeah,

875
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.800
<v Speaker 3>and then like after a couple decades, I decided to

876
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.199
<v Speaker 3>give back to the life coach training with Mary Morrisey

877
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:58.119
<v Speaker 3>wrote the book, and yeah, it's kind of history.

878
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is quite this, Chris. I'm so sorry you

879
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 1>had to go through that, but I'm grateful that you

880
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:08.119
<v Speaker 1>came out on the other side having learned from it

881
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and teaching others from your experience. So thank you for

882
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:13.880
<v Speaker 1>your services. It sounds terrible, hey, but this is truly

883
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>what you've done.

884
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 3>You know, I appreciate that, but like, I'm not sorry,

885
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:22.719
<v Speaker 3>Like I've forgiven every one of those people, and it's

886
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.400
<v Speaker 3>it's like what I needed to go through to awaken,

887
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 3>and it was part of my path and it's made

888
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:32.239
<v Speaker 3>me the person I am. And it's all okay, you know,

889
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Like it's it's like like you said, now I get

890
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.320
<v Speaker 3>to like teach people forgiveness and I get to teach

891
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:43.119
<v Speaker 3>all these amazing things. So I'm grateful for the journey.

892
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Like cracking open an oyster, it's kind of rough and

893
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>ugly on the outside, but you get to the inside,

894
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:47.880
<v Speaker 2>there's a beautiful pearl.

895
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Yeah, And the strength of what you

896
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 1>said is the fact that you chose to overcome as

897
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.639
<v Speaker 1>opposed to it would have been very easy to fall

898
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:01.119
<v Speaker 1>into victim, right, woe is me. But instead you chose

899
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.599
<v Speaker 1>to overcome all that and become a better person and

900
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:08.760
<v Speaker 1>now are helping others to overcome. And for that alone, yes,

901
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was all worth it. Although ouch just

902
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it hurts my heart to even say it.

903
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.320
<v Speaker 2>But you're just wonderful.

904
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>You are so inquiring minds need to know. What was

905
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 1>that first book?

906
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh? So it was called The Ancient Secret of the

907
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Flower of Life by Drumvale Malkisadak. Have you heard of it?

908
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I have not. The hang on I'm writing down right now.

909
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:31.159
<v Speaker 3>I want to go like run and get it off

910
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.599
<v Speaker 3>my bookshelf. But it's literally right there. So it's in

911
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.199
<v Speaker 3>two books. Book one is like chapter one through nine

912
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:40.800
<v Speaker 3>or something. Book two is chapter like ten through thirteen.

913
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.320
<v Speaker 3>So it's like two physical books one book. And what

914
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 3>that book did really well is it gave me a

915
00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:52.280
<v Speaker 3>lot of breadcrumbs to follow. From that book. I learned

916
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 3>about Zacharaistitchen and like ancient astronaut theory, I learned about

917
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Greg Braden and the God code. I learned about the

918
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 3>law of attraction. Like years before the Secret came out,

919
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 3>I learned all about sacred geometry. I learned about the

920
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 3>emerald tablets of both. I learned about like aliens. Like

921
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 3>I was just on an interview right before this, and

922
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:18.199
<v Speaker 3>which is why I'm losing my voice and the guy

923
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 3>was like, wow, that's like a deep book to go

924
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 3>like most people do. Like mel Robbins is like the

925
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.800
<v Speaker 3>first book, he's chicken Soup.

926
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.480
<v Speaker 4>For the Soul or something, right, yeah, but it's like

927
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 4>it's so fascinating, And now he has his whole Flower

928
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:37.599
<v Speaker 4>of Life workshop is on Gaya now and he's he's

929
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:39.599
<v Speaker 4>like pretty well known now I don't he has like

930
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 4>a cult following and there's not that many people actually

931
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 4>that I've that I found like know him, but like

932
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:47.800
<v Speaker 4>his stuff is out there enough, but you should read

933
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:48.159
<v Speaker 4>his butt.

934
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>So tell me the naming the book again.

935
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.559
<v Speaker 3>Write down the Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life

936
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Volume one and volume two.

937
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's find that book. How did you happen on

938
00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 2>to that?

939
00:48:58.519 --> 00:48:58.800
<v Speaker 1>So?

940
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, And it talks all about like Atlantis and

941
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 3>le Maria and uh oh and so I love like

942
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 3>ancient Egypt and it talks all about like ancient Egyptian

943
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 3>mystery schools. I get so excited. So I found it.

944
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.960
<v Speaker 3>So I was seventeen and I was dating this guy

945
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 3>who was like super mysterious, and he had this like

946
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 3>curtain in his room like against a wall, and I

947
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:31.719
<v Speaker 3>like wasn't allowed to know what was on the other side.

948
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 3>And all he would tell me was like there was

949
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:35.599
<v Speaker 3>an altar, and I like didn't know what it was,

950
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.280
<v Speaker 3>and I kept I'm like inquisitive, so I like kept asking,

951
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:41.320
<v Speaker 3>kept asking, and like I want to I want to

952
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:42.760
<v Speaker 3>talk to you about all this stuff when I learn

953
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 3>about it, and he was finally he was like, just

954
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 3>go read this book, The Ancient Secret the Flowerfly. And

955
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I did, and like I said, it was like I

956
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.760
<v Speaker 3>just took off with it. And I have bought more

957
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.480
<v Speaker 3>copies of this book than any other book. Like I've

958
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 3>probably bought like fifty copies of this book and like

959
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.000
<v Speaker 3>gifted it to people because I just want to like

960
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:01.880
<v Speaker 3>spread it to people, like I will buy you a

961
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:03.199
<v Speaker 3>copy and send it to you, like give me you're

962
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.920
<v Speaker 3>outres I'll do it. But no, it's because I like

963
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.599
<v Speaker 3>that's how passionate I am. I get so excited. But

964
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I've given it to so many people and only one

965
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.599
<v Speaker 3>person is taken off with it, and everyone else is like,

966
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:17.159
<v Speaker 3>this is too much for me? Like, right, Cherry, if

967
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:18.320
<v Speaker 3>you read it, you'll have to let me know.

968
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I will because you know I'm going to read it.

969
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting that that was your jump off point

970
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>me if it's too much for most people, whoa right

971
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that that was a testament to what you were going

972
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>through for.

973
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.000
<v Speaker 2>It to resonate, you are grasping for something.

974
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, So I want to ask you a couple

975
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.880
<v Speaker 1>of questions that are a little bit of curveball because

976
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll add It'll give us a little bit

977
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>of insight into who Chris Ashley is outside from everything

978
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 1>we just talked about. Right, so get ready. This is

979
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>where the buckle up buttercup part comes in. Okay, there

980
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 1>we go. If your higher self had a business card,

981
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 1>what would the job title be?

982
00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait?

983
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:56.599
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, how to what?

984
00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>If your higher self had a business card? What would it?

985
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Job title?

986
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 3>B truth seeker? That was my MySpace back in the day,

987
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 3>truth Seeker eleven eleven. I think it still exists somewhere space.

988
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying forty. I only look like I'm like twenty,

989
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.719
<v Speaker 3>but I wanted to name my show that Truth Seeker,

990
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 3>but it was already a TV show that was like

991
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:29.320
<v Speaker 3>my first like, oh, that's what I have to name it.

992
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:32.079
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's probably that's.

993
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Probably all right. Now, what's the most wu thing that

994
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:38.079
<v Speaker 1>you believe that you've never set out loud on a podcast?

995
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Never set out loud on a podcast. I had a

996
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 3>past life regression hypnosis, like a QHHT session if you

997
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 3>know what that is you do, and it's like Dollor's

998
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Cannons thing, and I found out that my dog used

999
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:02.679
<v Speaker 3>to be my son and in a past life and

1000
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:08.599
<v Speaker 3>my son he was like sent to like fight in

1001
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:10.920
<v Speaker 3>this army. And I remember like I was going to

1002
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.280
<v Speaker 3>this like king in this hypnosis session and like dropped

1003
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.480
<v Speaker 3>to my knees and like begging him not to take

1004
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.519
<v Speaker 3>my son, and they like threw me out of the thing,

1005
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:21.280
<v Speaker 3>and then like it flashed forward to the next scene

1006
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.039
<v Speaker 3>where they like dumped his body on my doorstep. I

1007
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.760
<v Speaker 3>was bawling in the session, like balling, like real emotions,

1008
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 3>and I made a vow that I would never have

1009
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:35.480
<v Speaker 3>kids again. And I've struggled with eight years of infertility

1010
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.840
<v Speaker 3>in this lifetime and I think it's because.

1011
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Of that interesting really interesting it brings.

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00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Up We'll make a vow yeah, no, absolutely.

1013
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah with my past life regression where I was a

1014
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 1>young girl and my teacher was thrown into the fire

1015
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and I felt the flames all kind of stuff. So

1016
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:57.519
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's powerful stuff that those regression. Yeah, Okay,

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00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:01.440
<v Speaker 1>last question, alive or dead? Who do you want to

1018
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 1>co host a cosmic talk show with?

1019
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

1020
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Cosmic talk I mean, Dolores Canon would be really fun.

1021
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 3>John Bolomelkizadak, who wrote The Ancient Secret would be really fun.

1022
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:18.760
<v Speaker 1>That's who I thought you were going to answer from

1023
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:23.800
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning. After cool, all right, that that gives

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00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>us a really cool idea or image of who you are.

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00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>So I appreciate you your willingness to I know I

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00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:30.719
<v Speaker 1>put you on the spot, and I apologize for that,

1027
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 1>but it just brings like cool answers out so things

1028
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you would never have thought about. So thank you for

1029
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>indulging me on it.

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00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 3>That's super fun.

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00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 1>We're going to add a link to this Ancient Secrets

1032
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<v Speaker 1>of the Flower of Life on our show notes, but

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00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 1>I definitely want to make sure we call out your

1034
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.679
<v Speaker 1>your book one more time, Change.

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00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Your Mind to Change your Reality, and it's available anywhere

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00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:53.519
<v Speaker 3>you get your books in ebook, audiobook, paperback.

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00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're going to add a link to that as well.

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00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 1>And then of course your podcast.

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00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.559
<v Speaker 3>Is change your Mind as sashly and that's everywhere you

1040
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:03.000
<v Speaker 3>listen to your podcasts Okay.

1041
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>And then your TV show is.

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<v Speaker 3>Be on Reality and you will find that on New

1043
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<v Speaker 3>Reality TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a mic drop moment right there, Chris.

1046
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 2>And then if someone wants to have a session with you,

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00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:16.559
<v Speaker 2>how do they reach you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chris Ashley dot net is my website or Change

1049
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:23.280
<v Speaker 3>your Mind with Chris is my handle everywhere, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris is spelled with a K.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect all right. Well, we're going to do the best

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<v Speaker 1>we can to add as many of those links as

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<v Speaker 1>we possibly can into our show notes so that it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy for people to reach out to you, to connect

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<v Speaker 1>with you, to connect with your work. We are thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>to have you as part of New Reality TV. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for being part of this crazy thing we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me. I'm incredibly excited

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<v Speaker 3>to be a part of this crazy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, all right, Chris, thanks so much for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the show.
