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Forward 12 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:37.240 slash the Big for Society and now let's get on 13 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:40.679 with the show. All right, Big Fort Society. We've got 14 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:43.640 the privilege of talking to Nick today. Nick is an 15 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:49.439 outdoorsman from up in Alamackee County in Iowa, northeastern Iowa, 16 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.200 and some of you might be familiar about that county. 17 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:56.479 In recent episodes it got brought up, and it's also 18 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:59.679 the area where a Yellow River State Forest is a 19 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:03.119 lot of you might be familiar of that. But Nick, 20 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:05.120 thank you for coming on the show. How's it going tonight? 21 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.959 Oh, not too bad. It's a windy, nasty day up here, 22 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:10.680 but it's been pretty good so far. 23 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:16.000 Oh man, it's roughly we're in west of West of 24 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:18.680 Moines and it's forty mile per hour winds down here. 25 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:19.439 It's wild. 26 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.000 Yeah, it's been howling all day or two. 27 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:24.439 Feels like the roof is going to get blown off, 28 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:29.599 so hopefully that doesn't happen. But yeah, that's part of 29 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:35.799 living in Iowa. Right, Yeah, that's for sure exactly. You 30 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.560 had reached out to me through email, I think quite 31 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:43.120 a while ago, and then you'd reached out again after 32 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:45.760 a certain episode you heard recently. Correct. 33 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:49.719 Yes, yeah, here I saw. I listened to the Amakithni, 34 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:54.280 Iowa episode recently, and I yeah, pretty much. I had 35 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:57.560 to send a set up an interview because it's because 36 00:01:57.640 --> 00:01:59.799 I've had any experience at one of the places that 37 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:03.760 he mentioned, not really very iffy one, but and I 38 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.439 had one when I was younger that was really blatant 39 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.599 and I've shared it before, but I think people should 40 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:11.000 hear it because it's pretty wild. 41 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:16.039 Yeah, absolutely, Nick, I'm going to go ahead and feel 42 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:20.879 free to take us back to where you were when 43 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.479 that occurred and what we need to know, and you 44 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:25.639 can take us right into it. 45 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:31.039 Okay, So I live in Lansing, Iowa. It's right down 46 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:34.840 the Mississippi River, about eleven miles south of the Minnesota border, 47 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:39.840 about ten ten or twelve miles from Yellow River State Forest. 48 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:45.120 And my encounter happened. It was I was ninth ninth grader, 49 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:48.199 a freshman in high school, and I'm thirty seven now, 50 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.520 so it's over twenty years ago now. But so it 51 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:56.240 was around September first, somewhere in there, right around the 52 00:02:56.360 --> 00:03:00.360 opening of a small game seasons girl season, and my 53 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:04.159 friend or two of my friends and myself decided to 54 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.439 go squirrel hunting and we went to this there's a 55 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:11.479 shooting range that's about three or four miles south Lancing, 56 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:16.199 and so we were we went out and parked at 57 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:19.240 the spot, and it's the driveway that we parked had 58 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:22.439 is right next to the shooting range. And we walked 59 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:27.080 out the valley south about a few hundred yards and 60 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:31.879 then started walking up the hill. And we got halfway 61 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:33.560 up the hill or something like that, we're in this 62 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:37.159 little clearing and there's a like a ravine right next 63 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:41.840 to us, like a waterway basically, and all of a sudden, 64 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:45.680 something came crashing down the hill towards us, and it 65 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:50.240 stopped at the edge of the tree line, and it 66 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.919 then proceeded to basically beat on its chest and screeched 67 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:58.280 like a chimpanzee, and it just it absolutely scared every 68 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.800 living crap out of us. And I remember thinking, what 69 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:04.400 is that? And so I was like, follow me, And 70 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:06.719 we ran down into this ditch and kind of buy 71 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:10.919 a tree and stood back to back with our squirrel 72 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:14.960 rifles and waited for this thing to just watching, waiting 73 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:17.399 for this thing to attack us. It was so loud 74 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.000 that you could hear, you could feel the percussion of 75 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:22.720 it beating on its chest, and it was like just 76 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:26.079 it sounded massive. It sounded like a cow crashing through 77 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:30.319 a cornfield. That's how I would portray it. And I 78 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:34.839 honestly don't remember leaving the woods that day. I just 79 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:39.120 remember this moment of just pure terror. What is this thing? 80 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.199 I've never I've been I spent a lot of time 81 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.199 in the woods over the years, squirrel hunting and deer 82 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:48.120 hunting and stuff like that, and hiking, and I've never 83 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.000 heard anything like that in the woods around here. And 84 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:53.319 people said, oh, maybe it was a rough grouse, and 85 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:55.160 I was like, I know what a grouse sounds like. 86 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:58.120 I know exactly what a grouse sounds like. It sounds 87 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.480 like an old tractor starting up. This was nothing like that. 88 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:05.639 This thing was just screeching like a chimpanzee, but a 89 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.120 little bit deeper in tone maybe, if anything. And like 90 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:14.040 I've talked to one of the other guys recently that 91 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:17.680 he doesn't even remember it. But I was at a 92 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.040 party with the other friend and I said to him, 93 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:22.560 do you remember that time we went squirrel on taking? 94 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:25.399 He's yeah, what was that? And I said it had 95 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:27.160 to be a big foot. I don't know what else 96 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:29.800 they could have been. I mean, there's no no stories 97 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.800 of escape chimpanzee. There's no rich people with exotic pets 98 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:36.639 around here. They're they're definitely here. 99 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.199 Oh yeah, I had no question, no question at all. 100 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:47.600 Oh man, that is it's super intense. How long was 101 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:51.160 it making that sound for? Would you say, I don't. 102 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:55.199 Know, maybe a minute or two. And like the I 103 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:58.959 remember the woods being really quiet that day, Like I 104 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:01.480 don't remember hearing any birds or we didn't see any 105 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.560 squirrels or anything like that, And like we were in 106 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:06.120 the woods for very long at all. We were maybe 107 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:08.279 there the most ten minutes. It was like a kind 108 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:11.800 of a beautiful sunny day in the fall, and the 109 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.759 leaves are like just yellowing. Most of the leaves weren't 110 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:19.199 off the trees yet. But I mean, I don't remember 111 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.759 exactly how long, but it couldn't have been very long. 112 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:23.439 It was maybe a minute or two. 113 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:30.720 Did you hear it walk off at all? Eventually? 114 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:34.519 No, And that's the weird thing. It just it went quiet, 115 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.240 like dead silent, and we'd never heard like it. Heard 116 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:40.199 it thrashing around in the brush for like that short 117 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:43.040 period of time, like in front of used, like shaking 118 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.199 trees and breaking branches, and it sounded massive. But I 119 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:48.800 don't remember. I don't remember even leaving. I don't remember 120 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.319 the rest of that day and the entire day, which 121 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.279 is very strange. It's like something like that. You'd think 122 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:58.439 it'd be like you remember every second, but it just 123 00:06:58.519 --> 00:06:59.959 was almost like my mind was wiped. 124 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:05.759 Yeah, it's sometimes I think, being in a situation like 125 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:08.360 that where it's super high stress. I don't know what 126 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:11.480 our mind exactly does in those situations, but yeah, you 127 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:14.839 can things can happen. 128 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:18.360 Yeah, I kind of almost I wonder if there isn't 129 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.839 something to the whole infound infrasound theory about them too. 130 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:26.600 I mean, this was it was terrifying, absolutely terrifying. 131 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:31.480 Did you feel like you're physically being affected in any way? 132 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:34.720 I don't know that you could feel it. You could 133 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:36.560 feel a percussion from it in air test, So I 134 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:38.519 don't know if it's that or if it was just 135 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.319 how audible it was. This thing clearly must have known 136 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:44.920 what guns were, and I think that's why elicited such 137 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.839 a response, because it was right right behind the shooting range, 138 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:51.480 not probably five or six hundred yards from the shooting range, 139 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:55.360 not that and people don't use it very often, but 140 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.000 I still hear I live close enough to it still 141 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:00.319 now that I hear gunshots from it every once. Well, 142 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:03.240 but I think they know what guns are. I think 143 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.399 they're obviously highly intelligent. 144 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:08.920 Oh, without without a doubt. There are so many things 145 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:14.160 coming out about how it seems that groups of them 146 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:19.160 are able to use tactics that are almost like military 147 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:25.560 in a sense, like flanking, surrounding, just really crazy stuff. 148 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:30.720 There's definitely something going on. It's not just a dummy. 149 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.559 I would say there's a definite intelligence. 150 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.480 There with the Olympic project. The way that they set 151 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:38.480 up their nests that they found that sounds military to 152 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:41.720 me too. They had centuries and they had what they 153 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.600 thought was where the birthing was taking place, was surrounded 154 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.440 by larger nests and then the smaller nests in the center. 155 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:53.399 That's high intelligence, and they're obviously masters of self. You 156 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:55.000 don't get to be you don't get to be the 157 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:57.879 master of the forest without being highly intelligent. 158 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.600 Yes, that that that is true. Have you ever been 159 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:04.879 back to that area where you were squirrel hunting that day? 160 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.440 I've been close to there, I've never been back in 161 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:11.679 that particular spot. I haven't really had permission since then, 162 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:14.799 and I don't know who runs the place now. I've 163 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:18.360 thought about going back out there, but I'm honestly afraid 164 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.559 to do it. I don't really I know, I wouldn't 165 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:25.200 do it alone. I've hung out in the area not 166 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:28.480 too far from there a few times, and but there 167 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.639 it's all private property around it, so it's hard to 168 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.320 get into that area. It's without permission. But I've thought 169 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:35.759 about it. 170 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:43.240 Gotcha, how did this affect the rest of your life? 171 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:47.559 Living through a situation like that, it has. 172 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.879 Kind of changed, like I don't like going hiking in 173 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:53.240 places that I don't know anymore. I won't go hunting 174 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:54.799 in places and I've never gone because that was the 175 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.240 first time I've ever gone hunting out there. I've gone 176 00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:59.519 squirrel hunting quite a few different places in the area. 177 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:02.320 I never had had any problems, but I don't hunt 178 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:05.039 as much as they used to by any means. Mostly 179 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.600 stick to fishing now, but I've fished pretty close to there, 180 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:12.600 actually fairly recently. And there's there seems to be a 181 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:14.200 lot of evidence in this I don't know what other 182 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:17.480 animals eat clams, but there's just clams all over the 183 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:20.639 shoreline along these areas. I think that's a food source 184 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.000 for them. There's one area that I saw that there 185 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:27.279 was like a perfectly rounded rock that's just set precariously 186 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:30.799 right by where there's a big clam bed, and I 187 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:32.840 think that they used They obviously know what they're doing. 188 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.320 I think they used clams for food source big time too. 189 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:39.399 Yeah, definitely. And are there a lot of deer up 190 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:42.240 in that area too, tons. 191 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:44.879 Of deer, Yeah, tons of deer. There's a there's one 192 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:47.919 field that's it's a way ways fifteen miles away from 193 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.000 where I'm at right now, but I've seen over one 194 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:50.759 hundred deer in that. 195 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:54.440 Field at one time, and definitely a water sources as well. 196 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.799 I would imagine while you're close to the river. 197 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:01.399 Right where I'm at is like where where my encounter 198 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:04.720 happened is like seven hundred yards from a village creek, 199 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.240 So there's a nice freshwater stream that runs right by it, 200 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.360 and there's a swamp right next to it too. It's 201 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:18.600 only a few hundred feet away, so there's definitely water there. 202 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:21.320 There's definitely food in the area too. If there's so 203 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:24.840 many deer in this county, it's unreal, to be honest 204 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:32.120 with Yeah. 205 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:32.799 Have you heard of other people experiencing things like this 206 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:37.519 in the same area or any big foot related things 207 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:40.720 in this part of the state. 208 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:46.360 Not that particular area, but the guy mentioned the other 209 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:49.919 episode of the other Amaki County episode mentioned Lower Dam, 210 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:53.679 and my buddy had an encounter at Lower Dam where 211 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:56.559 he was canoeing, and it got laid on them and 212 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:58.639 it started to get dark, and they were running behind 213 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:04.279 and heard what he described as what he's like later 214 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:07.679 described as the Ohio howl, and it chased him in 215 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:10.279 their canoe for a quarter mile or something like that. 216 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:15.320 Oh, it actually chased him. 217 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.279 Yeah, they came down off the hillside and ran alongside 218 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:23.799 their canoe. He never saw it, but he said it 219 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:27.639 sounded He like went through looking for sounds that it 220 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:30.720 sounded like, and when he found the Ohio howl, that's 221 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:32.600 when he was like, that's exactly what it sounded like. 222 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:39.360 Oh my goodness. And this is by that's by the 223 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:40.960 Upper Iowa River, right. 224 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:44.399 Yeah, that's on the Upper Iowa. It's about ten ten 225 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:49.080 miles out of Decora, something like that. And that's a 226 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:53.600 that's a large state forest area, but it's really remote, 227 00:12:54.200 --> 00:13:00.440 and there's there's thousands of acres of forested area along 228 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:01.200 the Air River. 229 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:08.000 That man, do you think you would rather have a 230 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:12.159 sighting of what it is or did you prefer the 231 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:14.519 way that it happened where you couldn't see it. 232 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:16.639 I would have loved to have seen it, because I've 233 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.759 been into big foot for a long time, ever since 234 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:23.360 Harry and Anderson's. But it still leaves that Maignant never 235 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:25.559 you can't really say for sure what it was, but 236 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:31.600 you're pretty obvious if you ask me, but it's hard 237 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:33.240 to say. I think I would have liked to have 238 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:36.879 seen it, but I feel pretty positive I know what 239 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:38.279 it was without having to see it. 240 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.919 Absolutely, there's no other things up there that can make 241 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:49.159 a sound like a screaming chimpanzee. That logically does not 242 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:49.799 make sense. 243 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.600 No, and there's like I say, like, I've looked around 244 00:13:53.639 --> 00:13:56.600 and there's no escape chimpanzee. There's nobody with gorillas in 245 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:57.039 the area. 246 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:02.279 Yeah, not the right area or that as at all. 247 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:07.039 Have you ever heard of any things happening down in 248 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:08.360 Yellow River at all? 249 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.519 I have, Yeah, I have, definitely. Obviously there's a finding 250 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.080 big boots. So but I know a few people that 251 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.200 camp down there and they said that they've had experiences. 252 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:21.000 They couldn't really explain that you've heard weird howls and 253 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:21.639 stuff like that. 254 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.159 Yeah, as we were talking about before the show started, 255 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:33.639 I get about at least one email every week about 256 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:37.039 Yellow River State Forest. It's just it's wild. And just 257 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:40.440 in case the guys listening to this episode, there was 258 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:44.720 a worker that's some sort of DNR related worker that 259 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:49.399 reached out to me with some information but never followed 260 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:52.240 through or maybe I need to. I don't remember getting 261 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.480 a second email, but if that individual is listening to 262 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:56.600 this one feel free to reach out again if you 263 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:00.159 do want to share what you know about what what's 264 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.480 happening in Yellow River Steak Forest, please. 265 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:04.600 I think there's a lot of people that know what's 266 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.360 going on down there, and just they whether they're legally 267 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.679 legally can't say or something like that. I fully understand 268 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:15.720 that too, because it's a pretty pretty well known camping 269 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:18.679 area and it's a pretty big recreation area. They got 270 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:21.799 equine and stuff, and it'd be hard for them to 271 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:25.080 put out something that that would be potentially defermented them 272 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:30.960 to people camping down there. Oh exactly, I've never heard 273 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:34.240 of anybody having a really aggressive encounter like mine. It 274 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:35.600 could definitely happen. 275 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:42.440 Just the whole area in northeast Iowa. There's there's Backbone 276 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:44.840 State Park has come up a few times on the show. 277 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:48.919 There's been some weird stuff that's happened in there. But yeah, 278 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.279 most people will when they think in Northeast Iowa, they 279 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:54.639 will think of the Finding Bigfoot episode that took place 280 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.159 at at Yellow River, which is a classic for a 281 00:15:58.240 --> 00:15:59.000 few reasons. 282 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:02.480 But a lot of people think that it's like that. 283 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.080 It's a heavily populated area, but it's very sparsely populated 284 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:08.440 and there are just it's all timber. It's all timber 285 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:11.360 around here where I'm at, and it's all hills. It 286 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.399 would be so easy for them to hide. There's thousands 287 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:16.320 and thousands of acres of forests in Yamaki. 288 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:20.159 County because that county is that's part of the Driftless Area. 289 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.120 Correct, Yes, it is. Yep. 290 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.080 There's probably more than a few listeners that are like, Okay, Iowa, 291 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:30.320 it's all cornfields. Can you explain maybe how the Driftless 292 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.759 Area region of Iowa is a totally different story. 293 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:38.000 It's completely it's more like a mountainous region than anything else. 294 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.000 Like it explained, it's like the river. There's rivers and 295 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.000 bluffs everywhere. Like literally where where I'm sitting in my 296 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.080 house right now one hundred feet to a hillside that's 297 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:53.360 six hundred feet tall. There's it's rolling hills everywhere, big valleys. 298 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.360 There are cornfields, a lot of cornfields, but there's tons 299 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.440 and tons of hillsides with forests. There's a lot of 300 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:01.759 state land. There's a lot of people that just have 301 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:05.960 big wooded wood lads. Basically, it's nothing like the rest 302 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:08.119 of Iowa. It's absolutely nothing like it. 303 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:14.920 Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful. People need to look up pictures 304 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.480 of it. It'll change your view of the state in 305 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:18.200 a few ways. 306 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:22.359 There's nothing like it in the fall. It's just absolutely gorgeous. 307 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.799 Hunting and fishing is phenomenal around here. 308 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:28.279 As well, because you guys have there's trout up there right. 309 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:31.960 Oh yeah, there's I know at least a half dozen 310 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:36.000 child streams within twenty miles of me, and they're very 311 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:41.319 good trout streams. And the Mississippi River is there's no 312 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:42.720 better fishing on the planet in my. 313 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:48.000 Opinion, So that's another food source as well, is the 314 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:51.960 trout that's up in that area. For sure. I've had 315 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.720 some really interesting conversations about Iowa that are not out 316 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:59.039 on the podcast yet. There's one about Boon that is 317 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:03.400 coming out in a few weeks that I don't know 318 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:05.880 even though if I want to visit Boon anymore now. 319 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:09.160 But are there other weird things that are seen up 320 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.839 in that area besides Bigfoot? Any stories you've ever heard 321 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:14.759 of other weird stuff going around? 322 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:18.400 Not personally in this area, but I mean there's the 323 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.880 van Meter monster or van Meter visitor. 324 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:26.119 Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's down in my area. That's pretty. 325 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:29.640 That's close enough to Yeah, that's good stuff. 326 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:32.519 There's I've never never really had any encounters from anything else, 327 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:34.680 but I got stocked by a cougar a few months ago. 328 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:38.440 Oh really, they're supposed to not really be in this area, 329 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:39.319 but they definitely are. 330 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:42.240 No, they won't really tell you that they're in the area. 331 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:45.799 Was that and was that over violancing or it was 332 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:46.640 right behind. 333 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:49.920 My house on the hillside behind my house, there was 334 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:53.400 a big solar flare a few months back, and me 335 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:55.160 and my buddy decided to walk up the hill late 336 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.960 at night to try and go and see the official 337 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.480 we could see the northern lights better. And we were 338 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:03.519 walking around on the hillside and we saw this two 339 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.000 big yellow eyes, forward facing eyes staring at us, about 340 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:12.240 eight inches apart, and we walked towards it, and it 341 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.640 took off, and so we kept what we kept. We 342 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:18.279 started walking down the hill and we were shining the 343 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:20.720 lights around the whole time, and then we thought we 344 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:26.200 saw it four other times, so, oh. 345 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:28.200 Man, that's something you don't want to mess with out there, 346 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:28.920 for sure. 347 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.079 No, but they're pretty. They're usually most of the time. 348 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:34.880 With all the deer around here, they've got so much 349 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:37.200 food they don't know what to do with it. But 350 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:40.079 you definitely there was some guy that was in a 351 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:43.920 tree stand somewhere behind the behind where I'm at right now, 352 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:47.440 that he apparently saw it stalking around his tree sands, 353 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:51.400 following his set trail, and it was stalking him too. 354 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:55.559 Wow. Can you think of any other areas that you've 355 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:59.119 heard of in the northeast part of Iowa that might 356 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:04.839 be good for bigfoot sightings or that might be known 357 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:06.440 for Bigfoot activity. 358 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:09.039 Upper Dam is not too far from Lower Dam. I 359 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:11.400 know that's a good place. Most of Elmi Key County 360 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.279 to be honestly, if you is pretty good. The Cora 361 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:18.039 area would be a good place to look into because 362 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.079 there's a lot of the Long How Rivers just there's 363 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:25.559 tons and tons of forests out there. A little further south, 364 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:28.200 like Clayton County would be another good place to look into, 365 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:33.759 Like around Pike's Peak and Effigy Mounds. I would say 366 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:37.480 that those are probably likely places. I know that they 367 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:40.599 there was what was like a minimum security prison that 368 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:42.839 they turned into a big camp, bigfoot camp not too 369 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:45.880 long ago. And that's right by Effigy Mountains, which is 370 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.559 just on the other just south of Obamakeee County, like 371 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:51.279 ten miles or something like that. 372 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:54.920 It was sorry it was turned into what so. 373 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:56.880 They had turned it into a big foot camp or 374 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:59.599 something like that. You could go and stay there and 375 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:03.160 then go and do expeditions or something like that. Really, 376 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:05.000 I don't know if that's still open or not, but. 377 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:08.279 I'll need to look into that. 378 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:11.000 It used to be called Luster Heights. 379 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.599 Luster Heights, all right, I'll check that out. That's very interesting. 380 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:17.839 Like I say, I don't know if it's still open. 381 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:20.759 That was a few years back now, but that was 382 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:24.079 what I had heard at one time. And that's where 383 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:28.039 the kind of bluff overlooking the Mississippi all the way 384 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:32.000 along the Mississippi is prime territory too. And it's there's 385 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.519 a highway usually, but then across the highway it's like 386 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.440 bluffs and hillsides all the way along it for one 387 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.640 hundred miles or better, all the way down towards Dubuque 388 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:44.200 would be prime territory in my opinion. 389 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:51.160 Yes, Dubuque has a lot going on. Little Mcokata River 390 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:54.759 has come up a few times. There's been plenty of 391 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:58.440 sightings down there. If people are listening down in the 392 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:03.559 Dubuque area, Yeah, watch out. Not too far outside the 393 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:11.039 city for sure. But Nick, it has been fun chatting 394 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:14.079 with you about what you experience. I appreciate you coming 395 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:19.039 on the show and helping to flesh out the northeast 396 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:21.359 part of Iowa a little bit and give us some 397 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:24.200 solid information about what you experienced over there. 398 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:26.440 I appreciate it. 399 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:33.759 If you ever run into anyone that brings up any sightings, 400 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:35.960 or if you have anything else happened to yourself, feel 401 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:39.079