Speaker 1: Weird things happened in the weird weird.
Speaker 2: Well we come in peace, earthlings.
Speaker 1: I like the difference in tones.
Speaker 3: That didn't participate, of course, that's part for the course.
Speaker 1: He's not a contact ee man, he hasn't been contacted.
Speaker 4: It's okay, man. Not everybody can be one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could be if he opened his heart.
Speaker 4: He just won't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's closed off. So what are we talking about.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Contact Modalities Expo XO. Jennifer and I.
Speaker 1: We're just at the Tech Modalities Expo, and much like
Speaker 1: we do with Azelia Fest and Riverfest, we wanted to
Speaker 1: kind of recap and tell the story to you guys
Speaker 1: because this year y'all weren't able to make it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: So I don't even know where should we be again?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll I'll walk it back just a half step
Speaker 1: and say that this begins with I was at the
Speaker 1: Monrositute for a week. Fly from Charlottesville, Virginia to Chicago, Illinois,
Speaker 1: where my lovely wife is there waiting for me, right
Speaker 1: at the gate, right at the gate.
Speaker 3: It's like a romance movie.
Speaker 1: It did kind of right, right, Did you.
Speaker 4: Have a sign?
Speaker 2: Like? No?
Speaker 3: I just I just kind of honey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't have to be a big spectacle.
Speaker 5: Okay, but you want to know what Ryan did, which
Speaker 5: is like, it was really cute. He just goes, let
Speaker 5: me take your bag, please take it.
Speaker 4: That's like a romance movie.
Speaker 1: I know, guys, so cute. She had a big old smile,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, happy to see it
Speaker 1: after a week of twelve to fourteen hour intensive days
Speaker 1: of study.
Speaker 4: You guys like each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what one could say?
Speaker 4: That one so crypt one?
Speaker 1: It is a possibility computer analyzing codes. Bank, we're making contact. Wow, dude,
Speaker 1: that's making contact with her heart.
Speaker 4: Wow. There you go, bring it all back.
Speaker 3: You got it to the romance.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: So I met the Monroe's two for a week. It
Speaker 1: was amazing, but I was just very tired. I had
Speaker 1: a hard time going to sleep on that last night,
Speaker 1: knowing I had the flight just for I stayed out
Speaker 1: kind of late with some of the other people that
Speaker 1: were there because they wanted to SkyWatch and just stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So I was up late, and then I
Speaker 1: was up super early, and I was exhausted, and and
Speaker 1: so just keep in mind, like flying into contact modalities
Speaker 1: right off rip, I was extremely exhausted, of course, like
Speaker 1: just getting there. Yeah, and then like getting to Monroe
Speaker 1: in the first place a week before, I was exhausted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so it was like one thing after another.
Speaker 1: But I was really excited to go to Contact Modalities
Speaker 1: after being at Monroe, cause I was like, it'll be
Speaker 1: like a party. So I get there. We get there
Speaker 1: about what like four point thirty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: No, it's in Delevan, Wisconsin. Okay, which is I think?
Speaker 3: Don't ask me what am I thinking?
Speaker 4: Is in Milwaukee?
Speaker 3: Isn't that the capital of Wisconsin.
Speaker 4: Listen, you show me a map. Okay, I can't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't either.
Speaker 4: I can't point to almost anything. No, I couldn't even
Speaker 4: I know where North Carolina is.
Speaker 1: I have no clue where Wisconsin is.
Speaker 4: No, it could.
Speaker 5: It's on a great lake, yeah, north and Superior.
Speaker 4: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now is it under Illinois or above it under?
Speaker 1: I have no idea it is. They just flew me there.
Speaker 1: Northwest of Chicago.
Speaker 4: Is more north than geography, am I right?
Speaker 1: I think it's like it's Wisconsin and then you have
Speaker 1: Lake Superior, and then it's Canada.
Speaker 4: So it's like that's pretty pretends a name of a
Speaker 4: of a lake, right, you know, what is it like?
Speaker 1: I don't shoot the messenger.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm not mad at you about it. Well, it
Speaker 4: sounded like you were. Well I'm here to clear the
Speaker 4: air and say I'm not angry with you about the
Speaker 4: name Lake Superior.
Speaker 1: I was pretty worried.
Speaker 4: Well i'm not, and I want to ease your face.
Speaker 4: You're welcome, but I am a little worried about whoever
Speaker 4: named that lake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the I guess it's the best great lake.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what I'm inferring.
Speaker 3: I know, based on that, one could infer.
Speaker 4: One could infer and I did. Okay, so that's where
Speaker 4: we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, But yeah, when you say it that way,
Speaker 1: I do feel the same way now, right, like in retrocess.
Speaker 4: It's just how I feel never having been there. Yeah Superior,
Speaker 4: I feel like a.
Speaker 5: Do is even being near it, right, Yes, it's the pretentious.
Speaker 1: I feel so small and meager compared to you know
Speaker 1: that that that name has such a presence that's not
Speaker 1: very inviting, right, Lake Superior.
Speaker 4: You have to go there like kind of like on guard. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm gold assume it's sizing you up and you gotta
Speaker 4: be sized up for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel inferior, right.
Speaker 4: That's the implication. Am I worthy?
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure, and I've been there myself that
Speaker 1: you saw it? No, not really. It's it's like the
Speaker 1: northern part of Wisconsin. We weren't that far up, but
Speaker 1: we were by Lake Geneva. Something really cool about Wisconsin.
Speaker 4: The friend named Geneva.
Speaker 1: Sorry, really Geneva, like the convention.
Speaker 3: You have everything to say about the lakes.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. So it's just the way it shakes out.
Speaker 6: It got its name because it's French. It's les Lax Superior,
Speaker 6: meaning the uppermost lake. So it's just the northernmost lake
Speaker 6: and it's French, so it's become superior.
Speaker 4: So it's French.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So does that mean when I'm up north, I'm better
Speaker 5: than y'all? So like this past week, and we were
Speaker 5: better than you.
Speaker 4: As a Southerner.
Speaker 1: No, does seem to be the working model.
Speaker 4: I know, if you're French, if you're French and speak French,
Speaker 4: are they French?
Speaker 5: No? I got eighty seven percent German, Okay, but in
Speaker 5: twenty three and meters it's German and French.
Speaker 3: So let's fingers and it's just German.
Speaker 4: There we go, right, it's just too much you and
Speaker 4: your people.
Speaker 3: I know too.
Speaker 1: In the cheese man.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask about the cheese.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tearing up some cheese curds. Yeah, hey, do
Speaker 1: you want to quickly grab the cheese curds in the
Speaker 1: guest rooms so we can show them you don't have
Speaker 1: why not?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're on the they're on the dresser, like Alex,
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 4: You look so comfy? Okay?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also keep the door open because I want the cats
Speaker 3: to come Alex.
Speaker 1: You know in the guest room with the mirror. They're
Speaker 1: right beside it in a vacuum sealed bag. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: we were tearing up cheese curds all weekend.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: They're really good that they taste like, uh kind of
Speaker 1: they taste like mozzarella sticks a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah you ever had them? They got that like nice
Speaker 4: bounce to them. They yeah, bouncey.
Speaker 1: They are pretty bouncy. Yeah, they're bouncy. They're not quite
Speaker 1: like mozzarella sticks where they're hollow and caved in and
Speaker 1: yeah that's it.
Speaker 4: Did you have any poutine? Did they do that there?
Speaker 4: I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I don't I think that's more of a Canadian thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: must oh wait.
Speaker 4: What happens?
Speaker 3: I don't know. They just seem kind of liquidy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're different. They're not fried.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just cheese.
Speaker 3: Just know how I am.
Speaker 5: I mean, at least at least Casey gets this. Is
Speaker 5: like I'm really weirded out by the when things aren't frigerated.
Speaker 5: Like I didn't ever realize that butter doesn't have to
Speaker 5: be refrigerated.
Speaker 4: It does well, and it's better when it's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but it like we kind of weirds
Speaker 3: me out.
Speaker 1: It's not just cheese, man, it's courage too, well, I
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 3: Passing around the curds, you could do some a smr.
Speaker 4: They're so bouncy. Yeah, they are so bounce And this
Speaker 4: is what like paneer you ever had, like a good
Speaker 4: like tika, like Pioneer dish, like Indian food. They'll put
Speaker 4: this instead of the meat and it's really really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yes, Like if I had to make a snap judgment,
Speaker 4: these seem good.
Speaker 1: You want to try one? You certainly can.
Speaker 4: I don't want to open this. I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to spoil your your cheese.
Speaker 3: Agressive.
Speaker 4: I just I don't want to open this just for me.
Speaker 4: That's selfish.
Speaker 1: But you're like, I don't want to open this.
Speaker 4: Consider it.
Speaker 6: It's not an unboxing right, Yeah, it's a podcast based
Speaker 6: off of that.
Speaker 1: That's the moment that you have to like, yeah, say
Speaker 1: that over unboxing the cheese curds.
Speaker 4: Right, But based off the look and the bag field,
Speaker 4: they seem good. Yeah, hey man, keep it together. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm just giving a snap review.
Speaker 1: So Wisconsin is great, all jokes aside, It is great.
Speaker 1: It is very beautiful country, just the the like driving
Speaker 1: through I can't remember what city it was, but when
Speaker 1: we were being driven to Chicago to fly out on Monday,
Speaker 1: we drove through this one city that was so gorgeous
Speaker 1: that I literally told Paul, the guy that was driving us,
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, when I was a kid and
Speaker 1: I would fantasize, like where I would want to live.
Speaker 1: This is it. I mean, I can't describe it, but
Speaker 1: it's really beautiful. There's a lot of farmland and pastures
Speaker 1: out in Wisconsin and that. Yeah, it's it's really nice.
Speaker 1: So on onto the expo now, Yeah, So we get
Speaker 1: in Ginny and I we land at Chicago. What is
Speaker 1: it like O'Hara or whatever. The airport, we get picked
Speaker 1: up by Chad who is our driver to take us
Speaker 1: to contact Modalities. And it was a good hour and
Speaker 1: a half drive from Chicago airport to the venue. And
Speaker 1: we're talking to the guy. We're getting hyped up, super nice.
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, but I'm like, you know what, I'm really
Speaker 1: happy and you know, excited to be here. And we're
Speaker 1: just talking about how great the turnout's been. There's like
Speaker 1: three hundred people there. I'm like, dang, you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty freaking awesome. By the way, I haven't said
Speaker 1: this yet, this is the first ever of this conference.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, it's the first year.
Speaker 4: I didn't know, so very cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So it was kind of like a big deal. Yeah.
Speaker 1: For Melissa who her name is Melissa Kane, I want
Speaker 1: to give a big shout out. She is a lovely,
Speaker 1: wonderful human being to.
Speaker 5: Her and her family, because one thing about us is
Speaker 5: I feel, like you know, Blissa said, so bled too.
Speaker 3: Family. We're all a big family.
Speaker 5: But it was really cool to see that the event organizer,
Speaker 5: her whole family was in on it. She has twin kids,
Speaker 5: just twin girls that are like what, I don't know,
Speaker 5: eleven twelve and then like a son and then the
Speaker 5: dad was there and they were all hands on deck.
Speaker 3: It was very cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a very similar energy to our family
Speaker 1: and how we do things as a group. And there's
Speaker 1: really really good people. And I have to give props
Speaker 1: to mel because she's the first person to ever call
Speaker 1: me up and invite me out to be a part
Speaker 1: of something, you know what I mean, you directly? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she called me, yeah, and she wanted me to be
Speaker 1: there and to represent us in the podcast, and she
Speaker 1: was the first one to ever do that. And she
Speaker 1: had made a comment like, you know, I'm so glad
Speaker 1: that you guys came and it was something I don't know,
Speaker 1: it was a long few days, right, And I told her,
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I mean, you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: the first person ever called me up to do this, So,
Speaker 1: you know, props to you, Like maybe I would have
Speaker 1: never done this if it wasn't for you calling me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's sweet. Who knows, So props to her.
Speaker 1: She was very inclusive of us and our thing and
Speaker 1: like BSS had a booth, you know what, I mean
Speaker 1: like it was on all the signage. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: UFO of God, but it was the podcast too, and
Speaker 1: she she went to great links to make sure that
Speaker 1: we were represented and were officially a part of this thing.
Speaker 1: So we were all over the signage. Bledsoe said, so
Speaker 1: UFO of God amongst other things, but that that was
Speaker 1: a really surreal feeling, like she she was a big
Speaker 1: first for us in that regard. That's awesome, you know
Speaker 1: because like for years we've talked amongst ourselves like maybe
Speaker 1: someday we'll be doing this in front of crowds of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, And you guys weren't there. I didn't. I did.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that I asked for it or anything.
Speaker 1: I probably if I asked nicely, maybe I could have
Speaker 1: done a panel. But I'm thinking maybe if I could
Speaker 1: give her a big hug and ask really nicely, I
Speaker 1: could totally see like maybe next year all of us
Speaker 1: being there and doing panels and maybe do like some
Speaker 1: sort of live taping or something like that. It is
Speaker 1: it is a real possibility that I think would be great.
Speaker 1: But so back to the beginning, we get there, and
Speaker 1: right off the jump, we're getting off our plane. We're
Speaker 1: getting settled. We get taken to our hotel room, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, did we talk about the resort? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it was amazing. It it's a resort, wow,
Speaker 1: not just a hotel.
Speaker 4: This is where the event was.
Speaker 5: But it's not like some like you know, freaking ten
Speaker 5: story resort thing.
Speaker 3: It was a really cute like it was. It was precious.
Speaker 5: It was like there's a building here and it's all
Speaker 5: glass hallways that lead you through so that you can
Speaker 5: have a good view of the lake. So it was
Speaker 5: like it was like cabiny type vibe. And it has
Speaker 5: been there since the eighteen hundred. Wow, it's like a
Speaker 5: very historical it's called the Lake Lawn Resort. And so
Speaker 5: there's like a common area like a conference room, and
Speaker 5: then it's like you walk through the hallway and then
Speaker 5: here's like a game room and like restaurant. There's several
Speaker 5: restaurants on the property. So it was it's a cool
Speaker 5: vacation vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like literally a vacation resort on
Speaker 1: a lake. It's not a great lake, I'll call it.
Speaker 3: It is a really great lake.
Speaker 1: No, not like Geneva, I don't think.
Speaker 3: But it's but it's not a no, no, I'm just just.
Speaker 4: But is it a but it might not be a
Speaker 4: great lake? But was the great pretty great?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, yeah, but that.
Speaker 3: Was what I was saying. Yeah, it was a dad job, but.
Speaker 1: It's honestly really cool when you find out what it
Speaker 1: really is. So in the Midwest, the Upper Midwest, reason
Speaker 1: around all the great lakes and stuff. I guess it
Speaker 1: was like during the Ice Age period, or maybe it
Speaker 1: was like the Younger Dryad or whatever they call it.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big you know, I don't know that
Speaker 1: stuff very well. But someone was quickly explaining it to
Speaker 1: me that I'm pretty sure it was the Ice Age
Speaker 1: in the Upper Midwest. And this this is also why
Speaker 1: the Great Lakes formed too, because when there were these
Speaker 1: ice sheets all over the earth, something about the ice
Speaker 1: sheets were moving in the Upper Midwest and it was
Speaker 1: causing these like massive impressions in the earth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is around the time that the Bearing Straight
Speaker 4: was melting.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, I'll take your word for it,
Speaker 1: but in this region there are twenty thousand lakes that
Speaker 1: are created by this period, you know, and this was
Speaker 1: one of those lakes.
Speaker 4: I can't twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And they're not all huge like you know Lake and
Speaker 1: Lake Erie or whatever they're they're they're just a bunch
Speaker 1: of lakes, some big, some small. This one was pretty
Speaker 1: big the one we were at. You could I'm sorry
Speaker 1: but that I'm itching. By the way, i haven't been
Speaker 1: around my cats in todays. And they're like the cat
Speaker 1: hair on the mark you.
Speaker 3: Said they were made by.
Speaker 1: What the the ice sheets from the Ice Age.
Speaker 4: Interesting when that stuff started melting, everything started shifting because
Speaker 4: like before, this is a little nerdy, but going from
Speaker 4: like the top right of uh North America, it used
Speaker 4: to there used to be a massive ice like bridge
Speaker 4: that connected uh, North America to no, I'm sorry, on
Speaker 4: the on the top left used to connect Alaska to Russia.
Speaker 4: What we now know is Russia connected to Asia and
Speaker 4: that melted and actually, interestingly enough, uh, that's where the
Speaker 4: Native Americans originally came from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read about that before.
Speaker 4: They were originally like ancient Asians. We would know them now,
Speaker 4: but like they came from what we now know is China,
Speaker 4: and they came here, they settled, not it wasn't supposed
Speaker 4: to be a permanent thing. But then the bearing straight
Speaker 4: melted and they're like, I guess we're stuck here. And
Speaker 4: Native Americans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, according to the Simpler Knights, which we'll get
Speaker 1: to that in a minute, according to the Templar Knights,
Speaker 1: people were coming here long before Christopher Columbus, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and interacting with the natives. Yeah, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: cool story. But yeah, so to wrap up the lake thing,
Speaker 1: it's just there's some places in this world where when
Speaker 1: you go there you feel like you're around a very
Speaker 1: ancient energy. This felt like one of those places to
Speaker 1: me because of the lakes. I just think that natural
Speaker 1: phenomenon like geysers or volcanoes, or oceans or mountains, you know,
Speaker 1: things like that, I think that they do have a
Speaker 1: powerful energy. And it was just a great feeling being
Speaker 1: at this resort on the lake. So good on the list,
Speaker 1: so she chose an outstanding venue for this. It was
Speaker 1: so beautiful. So we get there right, So to the
Speaker 1: actual the thing. Now, we get to the event around
Speaker 1: four thirty. I've been traveling all day Friday or yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Friday, Yeah, Friday. Yeah. I had been traveling since,
Speaker 1: like you know, up and at it since like six am,
Speaker 1: and then traveling from like eight or eight in the morning.
Speaker 1: I think it was eight thirty in the morning till
Speaker 1: four thirty, no sleep, had only eaten an extremely light breakfast,
Speaker 1: like I had.
Speaker 3: To get up at three thirty to fly. It sucked.
Speaker 1: It was sucked.
Speaker 3: I was so tight.
Speaker 4: You did say it was sucked.
Speaker 1: It was sucked.
Speaker 4: It suck.
Speaker 1: We were both exhausted, to say the least.
Speaker 4: Sounds right.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm going with this rough and we I
Speaker 1: felt a little bit of it. Not that Mom and
Speaker 1: Dad and Emily they were not pressuring me. They were like,
Speaker 1: take your time, but I felt a level of pressure
Speaker 1: like I need to meet up with them because they
Speaker 1: were there since Thursday. The events started Thursday, right, so
Speaker 1: I just felt like I really need to get to them.
Speaker 1: I don't have time to rest. So we just throw
Speaker 1: our stuff in the room and we make our way
Speaker 1: to Mom and Dad and Emily and I swear bro
Speaker 1: Like walking up to the booths, there's a huge line
Speaker 1: of people. I was like, all right, here we go.
Speaker 5: Well, I didn't have any of the blood, so said
Speaker 5: so out yet I had made signage and so people
Speaker 5: are there and I'm like, ah, like feeling like I
Speaker 5: got to get everything out of there, and like, you know,
Speaker 5: I felt bad, Yeah, prepare. I felt like I needed
Speaker 5: to be more prepared. But really, what could you do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You throw to the fire?
Speaker 4: Yeah there's nothing you could have done.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we literally just jumped right into the fire
Speaker 1: and it was great, you know, like there was I
Speaker 1: want to say, was that? Was that? The day of
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Church panel, the first one right panel yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he did a panel and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember this.
Speaker 3: I just did a solo talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we went to Yeah, there wasn't a panel though.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I mean. That's that's what I mean,
Speaker 1: like an event. Oh yeah, I'm using the wrong word.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was Friday, right, So we were there
Speaker 1: for like a few hours and then we Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, I forgot to say shout out Jimmy Church.
Speaker 1: He is a really good friend of my dad's and
Speaker 1: my mom's and now I'm happy to say he's a
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. I had never met him before
Speaker 1: in person other than doing his show once or twice.
Speaker 1: I think I did it once back in like twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen or something like that, and that was it, and
Speaker 1: I had never met him again.
Speaker 3: It was before the podcast, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Before our Black Yes show, Yeah, Faded Black with Jimmy Church.
Speaker 1: And I was a little intimidated to meet him because
Speaker 1: I meet a lot of people in this field who
Speaker 1: are into UFOs and they interview us and they want
Speaker 1: our story and it's like kicked to the curb and
Speaker 1: it's you know, like I just not that I was scared,
Speaker 1: but I was, like, I have my reservation. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know him, yea, you know, but it's a
Speaker 1: person that I've interacted with before. Is it going to
Speaker 1: be weird? Is it going to be good? How's it
Speaker 1: going to be? And I can honestly say that I'm
Speaker 1: really glad that I met him and became his friend
Speaker 1: and and got to know him in person. He's a
Speaker 1: really cool guy and I definitely want to do like
Speaker 1: his show again. And and you know, we we had
Speaker 1: a really good time together throughout the weekend and he
Speaker 1: really like looked after us the whole time. Friday, when
Speaker 1: I got there, he was in a chair at the
Speaker 1: end of my dad's booth. He didn't have a booth.
Speaker 1: He was like the he was like the host. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was the MC of the conference. So he would
Speaker 1: do a lot of like microphone you know, at event panels.
Speaker 1: He would uh, you know, be talking to the crowds.
Speaker 1: And he hosted a couple of interviews with like my
Speaker 1: dad and some other people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So he didn't have a booth, but he was just
Speaker 1: like hosting. Yeah, and the whole time, at least on Friday,
Speaker 1: he was just right when I walked up he was
Speaker 1: sitting there behind my dad, and he was so locked
Speaker 1: in conversation with people that he didn't even recognize that.
Speaker 1: I was there for about an hour or two, and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to interrupt him because he was deep
Speaker 1: in conversation, and I was trying to help like my
Speaker 1: mom and my sister and my dad and like get
Speaker 1: our stuff set up and like kind of help them
Speaker 1: with some of the load, you know. And about an
Speaker 1: hour or two there was a moment where he wasn't
Speaker 1: locked in conversation, and I pat him on the shoulder
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, Jimmy, and he looked at me,
Speaker 1: and then he looked away, and then he did a
Speaker 1: double take and he fucking jumped out of his seat
Speaker 1: and he was so excited to see me, and he
Speaker 1: just gave me the biggest hug and we just got
Speaker 1: locked in conversation. And he's a really cool guy, and
Speaker 1: he's honestly cooler off camera. I think. I don't mean
Speaker 1: that in what I mean by that's his show is great,
Speaker 1: you know, and he has amazing programs. I don't mean
Speaker 1: that in a bad way. What I mean is the
Speaker 1: real person is cool too. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not like you're a different person when
Speaker 4: you're doing this kind of thing. It's a different side
Speaker 4: of you. And so people might see that and be like,
Speaker 4: but you know, that doesn't really reflect how they are
Speaker 4: exnversation or as a person. Like somebody could seem really
Speaker 4: nice on something like a podcast or something and then
Speaker 4: you never know.
Speaker 1: Right, but he rightly.
Speaker 5: Put on a bloodsoe said, so pin. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's like he was looking at all of our merchant.
Speaker 3: He just goes, what's that? And then he got a
Speaker 3: pin and he.
Speaker 1: Wore it Sunday too.
Speaker 3: Oh, you were at the whole conference.
Speaker 1: No, on Saturday he had he he had he had
Speaker 1: some drip, let me tell you. But on Saturday he
Speaker 1: swapped and he didn't wear the BSS one because he
Speaker 1: was wearing I can't tell you what they were. It
Speaker 1: was like it looked like Egyptian uh mummies or something.
Speaker 1: He had a scare a beetle necklace that was so drippy,
Speaker 1: and he wore the BSS pingan on Sunday. But he
Speaker 1: did on Saturday. I paid attention to that, and it's
Speaker 1: okay because it would have ruined his drip because he
Speaker 1: had a specific look he had going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but got to maintain the drip.
Speaker 1: But oh dude, it's most important. But but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he was super cool. And it's like, maybe I said
Speaker 1: that wrong. I don't. I don't mean that he's not
Speaker 1: cool this way and he's cool that way. That's not
Speaker 1: what I met. What I You have reservations about meeting
Speaker 1: people in private that you've done a show with or
Speaker 1: you've seen online, and like, you know, it's really great
Speaker 1: when you meet someone in they're cool too, like absolutely really,
Speaker 1: you know for sure. And we had a lot of
Speaker 1: great conversation in private, and you know, dinners and lunches
Speaker 1: and things where we spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 1: He was very generous and very much like in support
Speaker 1: of our family, making sure that we ate when we
Speaker 1: couldn't have time to go feed ourselves, and you know,
Speaker 1: treating us to dinner here and there, and just really
Speaker 1: great guy. So I was happy to connect her with that.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: He and dad did an excellent, uh.
Speaker 4: Live interview cool like with an audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah nice, Yeah, And.
Speaker 3: It was one of like the main events.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: I think it was like I feel like almost everyone
Speaker 3: from the conference was in that room. Yeah, watching it,
Speaker 3: it was very, very packed.
Speaker 1: It was packed.
Speaker 5: And I was proud of your dad too, because I
Speaker 5: have never seen him in a setting like that where
Speaker 5: he's done a present or talked in front of people
Speaker 5: before hundreds. Even Alex has seen that at some of
Speaker 5: the smaller events, but I haven't ever seen that before
Speaker 5: in person. So the way that he composed himself and spoke,
Speaker 5: I was like, wow, like he's actually pretty good at this,
Speaker 5: Like he's got some good stuff to say.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was nice perspective.
Speaker 1: It was excellent, great session with Dad and Jimmy, and
Speaker 1: you know, it was packed. I mean there was barely
Speaker 1: a seat empty for that and anyway, so I just
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about that because you know, Dad
Speaker 1: was the keynote speaker of this event and Jimmy was
Speaker 1: kind of the host, and it was basically like they
Speaker 1: were kind of the main event.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't talk about this without talking about Jimmy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. So I am also excited to say
Speaker 1: that in just a couple of weeks I'll be hanging
Speaker 1: with him again and at Contacting the Desert.
Speaker 4: Sweet.
Speaker 1: We never really got our proper goodbye, So I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see him again. Yeah, after hanging out with Jimmy,
Speaker 1: we all go to dinner and it's like seven thirty
Speaker 1: or something like that, and the actual conference venue itself
Speaker 1: is closed down for the night, and there's supposed to
Speaker 1: be a SkyWatch, but it's raining. It had been raining
Speaker 1: for a few hours at this point, so we're just
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, there's not going to be a SkyWatch.
Speaker 4: Really SkyWatch if it's raining, right, it's completely clouds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, cloud watch. So we right, yeah you could
Speaker 1: rain drop watch count yeah. Yeah, And you know, we're
Speaker 1: going to dinner and we're like pretty confident that there's
Speaker 1: not going to be a SkyWatch, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't really think that much about it. We're just
Speaker 1: like what do we do. Oh, well, I guess we'll
Speaker 1: go out tomorrow. We go to dinner and we are
Speaker 1: just like relaxed. We think that we're done for the evening,
Speaker 1: and then around eight point fifty we get a call
Speaker 1: from you know, uh Melissa, basically saying like, hey, we
Speaker 1: have everybody othered in a room. We're doing the rain plan.
Speaker 1: That's my words, I'm paraphrasing, but you know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do like a group meditation. We're like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: sounds great. And it was a very last minute impromptu
Speaker 1: thing we ended up doing. You know, we came into
Speaker 1: the room. We had no clue what it was going
Speaker 1: on at the moment, but there was like three hundred
Speaker 1: people in there doing a meditation, and we showed up
Speaker 1: and then Dad got the microphone and he had a
Speaker 1: nice session where he got to speak to like a
Speaker 1: large crowd of people nice at once. But it was
Speaker 1: like completely just uh, I don't know, it just kind
Speaker 1: of came together, this impromptu impromptu.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean the plan was SkyWatch right. Didn't know
Speaker 4: he was gonna be doing this, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: he's he's put his reps in. Yeah, he's put his
Speaker 4: time in. Yeah for good of this kind. He's a
Speaker 4: pro now for sure. So I'm sure it was awesome.
Speaker 1: So anyway, then I really can't remember what we did.
Speaker 1: I was so exhausted, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine your brain is like a whirlwind right now, dude,
Speaker 4: after going to Monroe and then going straight there to
Speaker 4: that and like, I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 5: I have no picture evidence of anything we might have done.
Speaker 5: After that, I really don't remember.
Speaker 1: Maybe we went back and I think.
Speaker 3: We just hung out in your parents' room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right, and just hung out, probably
Speaker 1: just went to bed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that thing was probably until to eleven o'clock probably,
Speaker 5: and then we went back to your parents' room, and
Speaker 5: then I think we went to bed around one or.
Speaker 1: Something something like that. I think you're right. That's why
Speaker 1: I probably can't picture what we did because we were
Speaker 1: probably just like sitting in the room and hanging out.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Friday was great. It was It was a
Speaker 1: great like entry into the thing from my perspective, which
Speaker 1: was not having been there the whole time. So Saturday
Speaker 1: comes around, Me and Jenny wake up. We're like, all right,
Speaker 1: full day, let's go, you know. So we're getting together
Speaker 1: or you know, getting ready, getting our things together, and
Speaker 1: we are down at breakfast, right, and when we get
Speaker 1: to breakfast, like we start seeing omies sitting with my
Speaker 1: dad must for sure.
Speaker 4: But it was so.
Speaker 1: Hectic, you know, like, yeah, it was so hectic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did see some we saw we saw like several
Speaker 1: from the discord, like Lee, Lisa a lot, really John Derek,
Speaker 1: John Derek Ryan. Yeah, Sammy and yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: we we saw quite a few and they were in
Speaker 1: and out of the boot the whole time. But I
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit more about that later,
Speaker 1: some of the experiences that that we ended up having
Speaker 1: with them, which were really beautiful and were the highlight
Speaker 1: of the whole thing for me. Something that stood out
Speaker 1: to me was that our our booth was besides Scott Walter,
Speaker 1: so he's the templar knight.
Speaker 4: Oh nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our boots, our booths were touching. Yeah. So Jenny
Speaker 1: was holding it down really like working the booth, and
Speaker 1: I was doing like how we normally do and talking
Speaker 1: to people and like you know, greeting people in the
Speaker 1: line whatever. But I was also taking these moments to network.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, perfect opportunity.
Speaker 1: And something that really stood out to me was, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of people there, namely Scott Walter and of
Speaker 1: course his girlfriend Haley Ramsey and Dan Brulay.
Speaker 4: Dan Bulay the breathing guy.
Speaker 1: Yes, awesome, I want to hear himah, the breathing guy.
Speaker 1: And you know, we I took these little moments to
Speaker 1: like talk to Scott and to try to network with
Speaker 1: him and like get his attention but long story short,
Speaker 1: I knew he was going to be there. He was
Speaker 1: like the one person that I knew was going to
Speaker 1: be there. And basically, I in advance had been researching
Speaker 1: templar stuff. I mean, you guys know, like we've talked
Speaker 1: about it a little bit on the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's kind of been growing in fascination. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like like we've been talking about it progressively more and more.
Speaker 4: It's been coming up naturally.
Speaker 1: Yeah too, like on the Mally episode recently, we just
Speaker 1: did Molly Adler. It's just I went and did Matt
Speaker 1: Bell's show, The Limitless Podcast, and you know, he had
Speaker 1: Timothy Hogan on and Matt had told me go look
Speaker 1: into Timothy Hogan, and he and Timothy Hogan on that
Speaker 1: episode talked about me. So it was like really trippy
Speaker 1: for me. And something that Timothy Hogan, which is the
Speaker 1: grand master of this particular templar order, kept saying over
Speaker 1: and over again on these multiple interviews that I heard,
Speaker 1: was like, if you want to know more about the
Speaker 1: geological or archaeological findings of the Templar order, go look
Speaker 1: into Scott Walter. He was like, you're right, right, right, interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I knew he was gonna be there. It's really exciting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I sought him out with all these little moments
Speaker 1: that I had to like talk to him and try
Speaker 1: to like connect with him. And it was great. We
Speaker 1: hit it off, we became friends.
Speaker 4: That's fantastic.
Speaker 1: At one point, hmm, maybe I shouldn't say that. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him on the spot. At one point,
Speaker 1: we're having we're having a dinner and we were just
Speaker 1: like being really silly. It was completely just like a joke,
Speaker 1: and he kissed me on the cheek and we were like, ah,
Speaker 1: you guys are jealous because because Jimmy Church and Scott's
Speaker 1: girlfriend Haley, we were like, oh, you guys should just
Speaker 1: run away together. And he grabbed me and he kissed
Speaker 1: me on the cheek. He's like, yeah, this is my
Speaker 1: date now, you know what I mean. Like, we just
Speaker 1: really hit it off. That Scott was a very cool guy,
Speaker 1: and Haley and we had some pretty mind blowing conversation
Speaker 1: and I was thrilled. I mean it was again, it
Speaker 1: was one of those moments where you you're intimidated to
Speaker 1: meet somebody and then you meet them and they're even cooler,
Speaker 1: yeah than you thought. And we we had some excellent
Speaker 1: conversations about like the divine feminine and the sacred feminine
Speaker 1: and templar I don't know what you would say, templar
Speaker 1: ism or whatever. And he was very excited to hear
Speaker 1: about elements of our story. He had no clue about
Speaker 1: the lady and all that stuff, and it was like
Speaker 1: mind blowing for him because the highest, uh guarded secret
Speaker 1: of the Templar Knights is there's a divine feminine course,
Speaker 1: you know. So we connected, We really hit it off
Speaker 1: and became friends. And I was just so thrilled to
Speaker 1: meet Scott Walter. So Jenny didn't get too much time
Speaker 1: to be with him because she was working the booth
Speaker 1: and and and she she really doesn't know, you know what,
Speaker 1: wasn't really into the templar things, so she didn't she
Speaker 1: didn't get those little moments. But she and I had
Speaker 1: equal moments with Dan Dan Dan Brulet, and he was
Speaker 1: amazing and we were very lucky to have had a
Speaker 1: private session with him. So that sounds like who is he?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked. Dan is like the world's expert
Speaker 1: breathing master, like breath work type stuff, yes, meditation type
Speaker 1: stuff or yeah, mystical type stuff like Dad literally went
Speaker 1: out of his physical body doing this meditation with Dan.
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll round out with with that. But I
Speaker 1: want to walk through the experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I want.
Speaker 3: To say too.
Speaker 5: The funny part is that, like Dan didn't really have
Speaker 5: anything to do with UFOs.
Speaker 3: It's funny that he was.
Speaker 5: Even there at the event, Like I don't even know
Speaker 5: why he was there, because he was basically.
Speaker 1: Like, listen to be my friend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, He's like, listen, I really don't know much about
Speaker 5: all of this stuff. I just kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: brush it off my shoulder. But for some reason, you know,
Speaker 5: I believe in your family and I believe in your story.
Speaker 5: He ended up telling Ryan, I believe that the reason
Speaker 5: that I was brought here was to meet you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said that wind was to meet you, not me,
Speaker 1: but family.
Speaker 3: Which was like so sweet.
Speaker 5: And he is this guy with the most beautiful lamb
Speaker 5: like fuzzy hair, and he's got a white goateea and
Speaker 5: what he's like seven something and he is so he's
Speaker 5: just a precious guy and like we knew he was
Speaker 5: going to be there.
Speaker 3: Emily especially was.
Speaker 5: A really big fan of Dan because a lot of
Speaker 5: the work she does professionally and through her like holistic
Speaker 5: singing program, is learning how to align your voice with
Speaker 5: like your inner spirit blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak for her, but.
Speaker 5: Breathwork has a lot to do with all of that
Speaker 5: and meditating and aligning those things. So she was really
Speaker 5: excited to be there, and we all were. But we
Speaker 5: had gone in and watched a private talk with Dan
Speaker 5: just literally talk about breathing and breath and it was
Speaker 5: such an inspiring thing about He really talked to you
Speaker 5: about how your breath is like all you are. Your
Speaker 5: breath is the spirit that you bring into your body.
Speaker 5: It was very inspiring to hear him talk about it.
Speaker 5: And he led us through some breathing practices, and again
Speaker 5: this was at a speaking event at the conference. It
Speaker 5: was one of the only ones we sat in on
Speaker 5: because of how interested we were into what he had
Speaker 5: to say. And he was just such like a silly
Speaker 5: goose as well. But he did this thing where we
Speaker 5: kind of just practice breathing.
Speaker 3: Quickly like a.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he had us doing that for like twenty
Speaker 5: seconds or for twenty breaths, and I felt so lightheaded.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I know you were feeling white head.
Speaker 5: Oh it was like it was rigorous, it was it
Speaker 5: was intense, but it was one of those things where
Speaker 5: I was like, but it was one of those things
Speaker 5: where it feels uncomfortable, but it's like you training your
Speaker 5: system and like it's not. He said, he's done this
Speaker 5: for three hundred thousand people, different people before, and nobody
Speaker 5: has ever fainted or done anything like that, because all
Speaker 5: it is is that our bodies just aren't used to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's crazy about that? Yeah, so that that is
Speaker 1: to distinguish here. We visited one of his live events
Speaker 1: where there was like, you know, multiple people in the audience,
Speaker 1: and then Sunday night we had our private experience, which
Speaker 1: we'll get to in a minute. But at the live event,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have a little eyes watering. I'm getting
Speaker 1: used to the cat hair again. But yeah, So during
Speaker 1: the live thing with the crowd of people, it was
Speaker 1: a pretty basic like meditative exercise and it was really cool,
Speaker 1: and he had us do this thing where you have
Speaker 1: to look really surprised, like your eyes are wide open
Speaker 1: and your mouth is wide open, and you're like and
Speaker 1: he was like, just do twenty brats and everyone's dying
Speaker 1: by the tenth you know what I mean. And he
Speaker 1: was explaining that, you know, fifty years ago, I was
Speaker 1: with the monks in Tibet or China or India, I
Speaker 1: don't remember exactly where, but he was at multiple countries
Speaker 1: training under all these people. And he was like, and
Speaker 1: we had to do that for an hour, and every
Speaker 1: time we stopped, we'd be whipped with a stick by
Speaker 1: the monks and monks. Yeah, like he's had hardcore training. Whoa,
Speaker 1: he is a real guru. I cannot remember his name,
Speaker 1: but it's it's like, you know how.
Speaker 4: His guru name.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, And he was just like, but stop
Speaker 1: shaving my head long time ago because I like to
Speaker 1: blend in places. He's hilarious, you know, but when he speaks,
Speaker 1: there's there's a power in things that he says. There's
Speaker 1: there's a very strong energy.
Speaker 4: And that's fascinating. I've been thinking a lot about breath
Speaker 4: work lately, so I'd love to hear about this guy
Speaker 4: and like me, maybe even meet him.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I think it's inevitable that you'll meet him.
Speaker 4: That'd be really cool. Yeah, I want to learn some
Speaker 4: breathing techniques me and Jenny were talking about like, I
Speaker 4: just forget to breathe sometimes. Yeah, I will literally, and
Speaker 4: I take very shallow breaths a lot of the time.
Speaker 4: I wonder if it's like an anxiety it is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he taught me.
Speaker 5: Okay, because I had gone up to him afterwards and
Speaker 5: was like, hey, yeah, I just like really have short
Speaker 5: breaths and I don't know how to breathe correct And
Speaker 5: so what he taught me is that I'm breathing through
Speaker 5: my chest, which is a no.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: How you're supposed to imagine your breath is that your
Speaker 5: body is expanding and it is being like filled. So
Speaker 5: you're supposed to imagine that your body is being filled
Speaker 5: with air, you know, So not that like you're like.
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't quite, I can't explain it like
Speaker 3: he does.
Speaker 5: But so what he was teaching me how to do
Speaker 5: is not to breathe with my chest, but to breathe
Speaker 5: with my stomach so that my stomach would expand and
Speaker 5: come back in. So he was teaching me to be
Speaker 5: conscious of like your chest should not be moving when
Speaker 5: you breathe. Your breath should be going directly to your stomach,
Speaker 5: and your stomach should be expanding and then whenever the
Speaker 5: air goes out, it should be coming directly out, you know,
Speaker 5: through your mouth and that sort of thing. So that
Speaker 5: was like kind of mind blowing. And I was doing
Speaker 5: it and I was like, this is hard, and he
Speaker 5: told me, he's like, the muscles in your stomach are
Speaker 5: going to hurt and be very uncomfortable because you're not.
Speaker 3: Used to using those muscles.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but so anyway, so it was very It was
Speaker 5: very interesting. I've always had those problems to Nick where
Speaker 5: I'm like, I remember whenever I was a little girl,
Speaker 5: I would lay in my bed at night and be
Speaker 5: too lazy to breathe. I'm like, God, you gotta do
Speaker 5: all this breathing stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always seemed like a chore.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yes, isn't this supposed to be automatic? Like yeah, I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm always manually breathing. I'm never automatically breathing.
Speaker 4: You know that moment where you'll catch yourself and remember like,
Speaker 4: oh man, I just remembered that I have to breathe,
Speaker 4: So now for the next five minutes, you're manually thinking
Speaker 4: about it and then it eventually Well that's like basically
Speaker 4: me all the time. So anyway, it's something I'm fascinated
Speaker 4: and in addition to the spiritual implications and things that
Speaker 4: like it could do for you spiritually, I think that's
Speaker 4: also fascinating, Like, yeah, it's a meditative technique. People go
Speaker 4: out of body with these techniques, like I and all
Speaker 4: kinds of other things, particularly fascinated with breath work lately.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's serendipitous that you guys got that really
Speaker 4: cool experience.
Speaker 1: Well, breath work has been fascinating to me for the
Speaker 1: last few months because I had you know, it's honestly
Speaker 1: weird how this connects back to Scott Walter And I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about that consciously till just now. But
Speaker 1: the reason I was so fast, Wow, this is actually
Speaker 1: a really weird synchronicity. The reason I've been so excited
Speaker 1: about breath work for the last four months is because
Speaker 1: after hearing Timothy Hogan, who's the Templar Knight, which is
Speaker 1: who led me to Scott Walter Wright, just that little connection.
Speaker 1: But Timothy Hogan was talking about since ancient times there
Speaker 1: were these ceremonies or rituals where the templars and many
Speaker 1: secret societies or just spiritual communities like natives from Mexico,
Speaker 1: for example, the Maya Mayans. There's these similar rituals that
Speaker 1: popped up in cultures all around the ancient past, and
Speaker 1: they would do a series of breathing exercis. This is
Speaker 1: very much like simplifying it, but they would do a
Speaker 1: series of breathing exercises to go out of body. And
Speaker 1: it was like wow, and its initiation. And when I
Speaker 1: heard Timothy Hogan say that for the first time I've
Speaker 1: heard that, I think Christmas week I was listening to
Speaker 1: a podcast driving to Fayetteville, you know, and I heard that.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, that's deep. There's something
Speaker 1: to breathing that I really want to know more about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and here I am finding myself, you know, meeting Dan
Speaker 1: Boule also the same time that I'm you know, meeting
Speaker 1: Scott Walter. So like, think of that synchronicity. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't notice that until right now. Very weird. But anyway,
Speaker 1: So just just a little bit more about Dan and
Speaker 1: then I'll talk about the private meditation. I meet a
Speaker 1: lot of people in my life and now you guys
Speaker 1: do too. You know, you both have met close to
Speaker 1: one thousand at this point in the last year alone,
Speaker 1: you know, just doing these festivals and things, you meet
Speaker 1: a lot of people and you learn to be a
Speaker 1: pretty good read of people's energy, and you feel so
Speaker 1: many different things from so many different people. And I
Speaker 1: can honestly say that I feel very blessed to have
Speaker 1: met Dan. And I did you.
Speaker 5: Want to add I was going to say, like, for example,
Speaker 5: when the second that I knew Dan was special was
Speaker 5: right before his talk.
Speaker 3: We were talking about.
Speaker 5: How, like, Dan, we want to sit on your talk
Speaker 5: or whatever, and he just goes like, yeah, I got
Speaker 5: to figure out what I want to talk about.
Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: I was like, you remind me of Ryan, because Ryan's
Speaker 5: the type of person who no script, no idea what
Speaker 5: he's getting into, and then he'll just be like poof
Speaker 5: and he'll come up with something, whereas somebody like me
Speaker 5: would have to prepare for a whole month to do
Speaker 5: something like this, right yeah, And he was like, well,
Speaker 5: you know, so it just made me think about how
Speaker 5: alike you guys were in that regard, and it was
Speaker 5: just really sweet.
Speaker 1: It was like five till but his presentation and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm not distracting you. He was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I'm gonna talk about. I
Speaker 1: figured out when I get there. He was just funny,
Speaker 1: like everything he said was hilarious.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was truly like a I mean like.
Speaker 4: A lighthearted yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, in the total sense of the word that we've
Speaker 1: talked about on episodes before. He was a real one,
Speaker 1: like you talk about the goofy sage archetype.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was truly that. Like he at one point during
Speaker 1: our meditation, he said, he said, some people call it
Speaker 1: breath work. I like to call it breath play. Oh
Speaker 1: I like that seriousness.
Speaker 3: It was so cute.
Speaker 1: Said, seriousness is a disease, laughter, medicine for the heart.
Speaker 1: And he would just say these deep things and you're
Speaker 1: sitting there like convulsing because of all this powerful energy
Speaker 1: and shit like that. He was amazing.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I feel like I felt kind of emotional meeting him,
Speaker 1: like it was somebody that I needed to meet in
Speaker 1: my life. And I was already excited to meet him
Speaker 1: because weeks before Emily had told me he's going to
Speaker 1: be there. He's like a big deal. I'm really into him.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh cool. So when I met him,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, you're the guy. I
Speaker 1: took him over to meet Emily, he met Dad, And
Speaker 1: something that stood out to me about Dan that was
Speaker 1: so profound was, like Jenny said a bit ago, was
Speaker 1: he was not really even into UFOs, but he was
Speaker 1: there because this was like a consciousness expo. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he said on his Saturday Live event with us in
Speaker 1: the audience, he was looking right at me. He was like,
Speaker 1: and I never even really believed in UFOs before. I
Speaker 1: always thought it was silly. But then when I met
Speaker 1: your father, I could feel his heart and his heart
Speaker 1: is a real heart of love, and I know he's
Speaker 1: still on the truth. And now I'm a believer.
Speaker 4: I saw it took Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just saw my dad smile, heard his words.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, they're real.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: But it was like game recognizes games.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and there's overlap in these two worlds, the
Speaker 4: like mystic spiritual like breath work like all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff, and then the UFO phenomenon, like they are
Speaker 4: one and the same. Yeah, and not everybody is aware
Speaker 4: of that, Like you know, you're not necessarily aware of
Speaker 4: that overlap. But then all it takes is just to
Speaker 4: meet somebody and yes, game recognized game.
Speaker 5: That was what was interesting about this conference is the
Speaker 5: conference was really about those different forms of contact with
Speaker 5: these beings or that kind of thing, and it was
Speaker 5: a lot of it was based around the consciousness aspect
Speaker 5: of it. And it was at first I was like,
Speaker 5: why would somebody like Dan be here? I was wondering
Speaker 5: about it, But it does make sense that there's that
Speaker 5: line between those two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all the same. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: That's actually what I really liked about this conference is
Speaker 1: it wasn't like an alien conference. It wasn't a UFO
Speaker 1: conference that was the main theme, but it was.
Speaker 3: Our mediums there. Like there was a little bit of everythings.
Speaker 1: Likechadelic therapy, the visual thing. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: things that it was like peripherally related to UFOs, but
Speaker 1: that wasn't the whole thing. Sure, you know, it was
Speaker 1: a bunch of like I mean, you know, breathwork, meditation
Speaker 1: and all kinds of stuff, remote viewing. You know, it
Speaker 1: was very cool. It was a very cool conference. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's talk about the meditation Jenny, Yeah, the private meditation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, meet, Okay, I did that even come about? Did
Speaker 4: he offer? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 5: Cool he just met Chris and was like, your dad
Speaker 5: needs a private breathing session. I feel like he could
Speaker 5: really benefit from a private breathing thing. And the thing
Speaker 5: about Dan that gets me off guard is he's like,
Speaker 5: all right, let's breathe together, and it's like we're always
Speaker 5: breathing together, but not breathing breathing together, conscious breathing. So yeah,
Speaker 5: he wanted to have a private session with Chris Seniors.
Speaker 5: So on the very last night, well, well, this is
Speaker 5: what was interesting. I thought it was just going to
Speaker 5: be Chris Senior. Like the whole time I was outside,
Speaker 5: you know, with a group of people kind of around
Speaker 5: a fire. Emily and I were out there and we
Speaker 5: were like, maybe we should go in and check on
Speaker 5: check on them. They were Ryan's mom, dad, and then
Speaker 5: Dan were in a common area in the in the resort,
Speaker 5: and we went to check on them. And then finally
Speaker 5: Dan's like, all right, well let's all go to their
Speaker 5: room because it would probably be better to be in
Speaker 5: a private space to where Chris Senior after the meditation
Speaker 5: could just kind.
Speaker 3: Of go to sleep. It would probably be best if.
Speaker 5: We did something like that, because Christina was so exhausted,
Speaker 5: like he was giving his all. So so then he's like,
Speaker 5: all right, everyone come with me, and we're like everyone
Speaker 5: are and he's just like, no, I think it'd be
Speaker 5: good if all five of you would come into the
Speaker 5: room and do something together. And so I that was
Speaker 5: the last thing I expected, you know. So we had
Speaker 5: to tell the group of people outside like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, but actually, I guess we're gonna go
Speaker 5: do this over here. Should be about twenty minutes or so,
Speaker 5: we'll be right back. Yeah, And little did we know.
Speaker 5: They told us later, they're like, yeah, we knew you
Speaker 5: weren't coming back in twenty minutes. It ended up being
Speaker 5: like an hour and a half, two hours wow.
Speaker 3: That we were away. But I can let you go into.
Speaker 1: The oh, I mean, it was, it was. It was profound.
Speaker 1: It was a solid hour and a half of meditation
Speaker 1: with just breathing. I've never meditated straight for that long before,
Speaker 1: and all we had was our breath, and he was
Speaker 1: guiding us. Think about this, dude, Like most meditations, at
Speaker 1: least everyone that I've ever done for the most, I
Speaker 1: mean I've done little, you know, tiny ones here and there,
Speaker 1: and like a group' sem and our kind of thing
Speaker 1: in college before, in my psychology degree, I was guided
Speaker 1: through a meditation one time, but like nothing serious, nothing
Speaker 1: like this. Even in the Morone Institute for example, and
Speaker 1: many other places meditations are guided, you know, expand at
Speaker 1: whatever most expose your meditation as guided. He just took
Speaker 1: us in the room. He's like, get comfortable.
Speaker 3: We were laying all around.
Speaker 5: I was, Ryan, Emily and I were laying on the
Speaker 5: floor of this room, and then Chris Senior and Vonne
Speaker 5: were kind of slumped down on a couch because he
Speaker 5: wanted us to not use any sort of muscle right
Speaker 5: to sit up, like you should be completely relaxed and
Speaker 5: slunched kind of, so they were.
Speaker 3: They were slouched, not slunched.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I like, so they were slouched over
Speaker 5: and just kind of like getting really really comfortable in
Speaker 5: Another big part of the breathing practice was to make
Speaker 5: sure your jaw was relaxed as well.
Speaker 3: So that was that was all kind of like the
Speaker 3: instruction that he gave us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh look at DD she's stretching, she's meditating. If
Speaker 1: I'm in the room the cat is that on camera?
Speaker 1: Oh but anyway, yes, So it was just really profound
Speaker 1: because like I just wanted you guys to have the
Speaker 1: perspective that, like every meditation I've ever done has been guided,
Speaker 1: you know, other than like I've done some from the
Speaker 1: Monroe and coding methods where you can like kind of
Speaker 1: hit the focus twelve state on your own. That's fine,
Speaker 1: but just with the thought and mind, you know, guided
Speaker 1: meditations or maybe a better way to make sense of
Speaker 1: this as there like prerecorded Yeah, yeah, guides. This was
Speaker 1: all just live. He just had a magic wand and
Speaker 1: he just took us on a journey and it was
Speaker 1: completely curated to us in that room, in that moment.
Speaker 1: It was the work of a master dude. And by
Speaker 1: the end of it, Dad was out of body. My
Speaker 1: mother had this profound breakthrough where she started to empathically
Speaker 1: feel the suffering of all of these people around her things,
Speaker 1: you know, things like that seeing colors and symbols and
Speaker 1: all these crazy things.
Speaker 5: I mean, well, I want to say too, the really
Speaker 5: cool thing about Avonne is a Vonne. I mean, for
Speaker 5: the most part, if you're listening, I think you kind
Speaker 5: of know the lore of Ryan's mother about just kind
Speaker 5: of like, you know, she she's supportive of her family,
Speaker 5: but the subject matter isn't something that she's super duper
Speaker 5: passionate about or anything.
Speaker 3: But for some reason with Dan.
Speaker 5: She told us after the meditation, She's like, I just
Speaker 5: let my walls down and I didn't care about judgment whatsoever. Like,
Speaker 5: you know, I this was the first time ever that
Speaker 5: I just let everything go. I didn't care and I
Speaker 5: just followed the instructions, you know, and just and just
Speaker 5: did it. And she came out of it and was
Speaker 5: just completely shaken up and rattled and was like, oh
Speaker 5: my gosh, can I keep you Dan like I want to,
Speaker 5: you know, see you all the time.
Speaker 1: Don't leave like she But if that tells you about
Speaker 1: his energy, absolutely it's profound. My mother felt safe with him.
Speaker 4: That's a big deal. Yeah, that's a huge deal.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I have to like unlocked something just being around this man.
Speaker 5: Yes, I have to admit, like I did kind of
Speaker 5: open my eyes once or twice.
Speaker 3: To kind of see. I was like, is she getting
Speaker 3: into it?
Speaker 5: Because you know I I I just wanted to check
Speaker 5: in on her, I guess, And she sure enough, she
Speaker 5: had her eyes closed and she was doing the she
Speaker 5: was doing the the stuff. And then Emily I kept
Speaker 5: feeling her energy the whole time. I had to get
Speaker 5: up in the middle of it because I was getting
Speaker 5: cold on the floor. So then I went and slumped
Speaker 5: or slouched in a chair. I slunched in the chair,
Speaker 5: and because I was just so cold, I felt like
Speaker 5: I couldn't I couldn't focus on my breath. But so
Speaker 5: that just shows that I'm far from being any sort
Speaker 5: of master.
Speaker 3: And I need some practice.
Speaker 5: So whenever I did that, I was checking in on everybody,
Speaker 5: and yeah, Emily was getting you know, not to put
Speaker 5: her out there, put her on the spot, but she
Speaker 5: had kind of been in and out of like a
Speaker 5: crying thing and then on crying, because he says a
Speaker 5: lot of people when they do this end up crying
Speaker 5: or releasing emotion.
Speaker 3: John one of the guys, one of the only he
Speaker 3: was there, and so he did one of the practices
Speaker 3: and he said, by the end of the twenty five
Speaker 3: minute session of doing something similar to what we were doing,
Speaker 3: he said his hands were cramped.
Speaker 1: His hands were clenched because there was so much tension
Speaker 1: I've experienced that. Yeah, like he couldn't even open his
Speaker 1: hands for like twenty five minutes because what happens is
Speaker 1: that you know, you experience and accumulate this trauma throughout
Speaker 1: your life, and it gets attached to your central nervous system. Basically,
Speaker 1: there's a build up, and doing these like powerful breath
Speaker 1: work exercises can help clear a lot of that damage.
Speaker 1: Not physiological damage, but like emotional stress, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It's like purging a release, per Yes, it's a release.
Speaker 1: And I experienced that, not the hand thing like John did,
Speaker 1: but just like, my body was shaken a lot. Nothing weird,
Speaker 1: like oh I truching, not like that. It's like tension.
Speaker 3: Sure, I couldn't.
Speaker 5: Stop yawning during it, and he was saying that the
Speaker 5: yawn is a good kind of yon. It's a different
Speaker 5: kind of breath or something. So, but I was irritated
Speaker 5: because I kept yawning and then it made my eyes
Speaker 5: water and I was like crying, and I'm like, oh
Speaker 5: my goshly it makes you uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Freezing cold things. Right when we started getting freezing cold,
Speaker 1: I guess me and Emily were really shivering, and you
Speaker 1: probably were too. He started making comments like you might
Speaker 1: get really cold, and he came in. He put a
Speaker 1: blanket over Emily.
Speaker 5: And That's when I got up because I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: he senses that people are cold, and I turned the
Speaker 5: fireplace back on.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, this is cold.
Speaker 1: So something that happened to Dad was he started going
Speaker 1: out of body and he so Melissa was kind enough
Speaker 1: to rent my parents, like the biggest suite that this
Speaker 1: place offers this resort, and it was like the size
Speaker 1: of a literal apartment. It had a kitchen, it had
Speaker 1: two bathrooms, had a living room and a bedroom, hotel room,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It was huge.
Speaker 1: So we were all in Dad's unit, all around the
Speaker 1: kitchen and the living room and all that, just laying
Speaker 1: on the floor. Dad was in the chair, Mom was
Speaker 1: in the chair or whatever. And so Dad went out
Speaker 1: of body. And by the way, did I say, it
Speaker 1: had a fireplace the hotel room. So Dad was over
Speaker 1: by the fireplace, which is the opposite side of the
Speaker 1: room that he was on. He went out of body.
Speaker 1: He was at the fireplace and he was watching Dan,
Speaker 1: who was sitting in a chair beside Dad. So while
Speaker 1: he's out of body, he's watching him, but he's hearing
Speaker 1: him because Dan is speaking. We're all quiet for an
Speaker 1: hour and a half breathing, and Dan's guiding the meditation.
Speaker 1: So when Dad's on the other side of the room,
Speaker 1: out of his body, watching Dan, he saw Dan get
Speaker 1: up walk over to Dad. But what he heard him
Speaker 1: say and what I heard him and we all heard
Speaker 1: him say, so he really said this, and Dad really
Speaker 1: saw this right what Dan said in that moment, I
Speaker 1: never knew he touched Dad. He didn't come touch me.
Speaker 1: My eyes are closed. But Dan at one point said,
Speaker 1: deep into the meditation, we're freaking, you know, shaking the
Speaker 1: tension out of it. I mean, it's really powerful, like
Speaker 1: you know. And Dan said, for those of us who
Speaker 1: can see what others cannot see, we should relax our
Speaker 1: forehead muscles. And when Dan said that, Dad out of
Speaker 1: body across the room watched him reach over to touch Dad.
Speaker 1: And then even though he's out of body, watching his
Speaker 1: physical body's eyes are closed and he's hearing, he felt
Speaker 1: his hand. Dan actually rubbed his forehead across his hand,
Speaker 1: across his forehead to make him relax his third eye
Speaker 1: because when Dad was out of body, he was all,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes deep into meditation, your eyes are going nuts.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm imitating right now, but like your eyes
Speaker 1: can be looking around and your third eye can be pulsing,
Speaker 1: and there's all this stuff. So Dan walked over there
Speaker 1: and touched his forehead and said, for those of us
Speaker 1: that see what others cannot see, we should relax our
Speaker 1: forehead muscles because when we're born, there's cavities in our
Speaker 1: skull that allow vibrations, you know, to pass back and forth.
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what he said past that point,
Speaker 1: but he was talking about the third eye, yeah, and
Speaker 1: relaxing our forehead muscles. But was so crazy. It was
Speaker 1: that Dad was literally out of body and saw him
Speaker 1: do that, and he walked across the room and he
Speaker 1: touched his forehead. Wow, it was powerful.
Speaker 5: My favorite part was that the way that we were
Speaker 5: all out out gone. I I wasn't out of body
Speaker 5: or did anything crazy. I was probably just flowering sleep
Speaker 5: from being honest, I was probably just asleep. And how
Speaker 5: we all woke up as he's began playing music and
Speaker 5: then he started softly singing to this music to kind
Speaker 5: of like start waking.
Speaker 3: Us up, and it was just like, what was it?
Speaker 3: Love is this?
Speaker 5: And Hallelujah and this kind of stuff, like just spiritual stuff.
Speaker 1: I have to find a song, but he was just
Speaker 1: like singing it.
Speaker 5: And I was worried because I was I was up first.
Speaker 5: I was probably the least meditated, and so I was
Speaker 5: up first, and I was seeing him across the room
Speaker 5: and he started kind of gathering his things, and he
Speaker 5: wakes up and walks towards the door and does this
Speaker 5: thing where he touched my head and my like like
Speaker 5: my hair and my head and just kind of like
Speaker 5: pet me for a second, and then he leaned down
Speaker 5: and did the same thing for Emily. And if it
Speaker 5: wasn't for her, I think he would have left. I
Speaker 5: think he would have just let us be there. And
Speaker 5: so Emily actually got up and ended up saying thank you,
Speaker 5: and I don't know what ended up happening. I just
Speaker 5: started bawling my eyeballs out and was just like, oh
Speaker 5: my gosh, like this was such a special moment to
Speaker 5: like sit here and do this, you know. So I
Speaker 5: started like crying my eyes out and I gave him
Speaker 5: a hug and said thank you.
Speaker 3: And it was.
Speaker 5: Hilarious because after all of that, Christinior was fast asleep
Speaker 5: and he was snoring so loud. It was getting louder
Speaker 5: and louder and louder, so we all started laughing, including
Speaker 5: Dan because it was so loud.
Speaker 3: And then Chris Senior wakes.
Speaker 5: Up and he's like what what And we're like, you
Speaker 5: were snoring and he's like, no, I wasn't. We're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's the first telltale sign that you were snoring when
Speaker 5: you say you weren't. So so we all got a
Speaker 5: kick out of that, and he hung out for a
Speaker 5: little while longer, but.
Speaker 1: We were unpacking our experi and says he was just giggling.
Speaker 1: And then when it was time to say goodbye, he
Speaker 1: got up. He oh, by the way, I forgot to say.
Speaker 1: The whole weekend he was walking around with UFO of
Speaker 1: God because they gave him a copy.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he walked around with it everywhere he went and
Speaker 1: looked like a preacher with a Bible. He was toting
Speaker 1: around like.
Speaker 3: I can't put it down.
Speaker 1: He was like, it's a page turner and he you know,
Speaker 1: so he was clutching uf of God and he stood
Speaker 1: up and he said, well, now I'm off to prison,
Speaker 1: because he's flying to California the next morning to go
Speaker 1: do this for like death sentenced prisoners.
Speaker 4: WHOA, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, something to do.
Speaker 1: That's a service, reminding me of your dad. He does,
Speaker 1: he does, he does ministry for prison the world.
Speaker 3: He goes there and he says, Yep, I teach prisoners
Speaker 3: how to breathe.
Speaker 4: Because people forget about those people and they cast him
Speaker 4: aside and they pretend they don't exist and they're not humans.
Speaker 5: Well, he told us that he's changing what what that
Speaker 5: specific system is doing somewhere in California, I don't know
Speaker 5: where is their teacher. They're changing it to becoming more
Speaker 5: of like a rehabilitation center and like a a get
Speaker 5: you know, helping these people get right and find these
Speaker 5: you know, find their spiritual path and all of that
Speaker 5: stuff versus just like hey, go sit in this sell
Speaker 5: and eat your slop. You know, Like it's actually changing
Speaker 5: the system and making it more of a rehab Wow.
Speaker 4: What an actual legend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 4: That's a true Like what a sage. I know, that's
Speaker 4: a true like a pure hearted yeah, a loving, caring heart.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he just went yep off to prison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but his delivery was fine too. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: funny guy.
Speaker 4: What a legend.
Speaker 1: And he was just like saying the most amazing things
Speaker 1: throughout the weekend, and something during the meditation that he
Speaker 1: would emphasize as like, you know, the first level of
Speaker 1: breathing is you're just breathing with your nose, but then
Speaker 1: there's another level as you get deeper with your awareness,
Speaker 1: you know, begin to breathe through your pores, breathe through
Speaker 1: your bones, breathe with your aura, breathe with your awareness.
Speaker 1: It's like and the more that you become aware of
Speaker 1: your breathing, breathing with your energy being, the lines between
Speaker 1: your physical body and your energy will start to get
Speaker 1: really fuzzy. And it was just like really deep shit,
Speaker 1: It's profound. It was profoundly deep shit. It was one
Speaker 1: of the most profound experiences of my whole life. So anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: huge highlight meaning Dan Bulay and he was just like, well,
Speaker 1: he said he would love to do the show. He
Speaker 1: was like, maybe you'll do two parts because you'll wind
Speaker 1: me up and I'll just stop. I'll just get going
Speaker 1: and I won't be able to stop. And I was like,
Speaker 1: sounds great. What I said, sounds great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, something that I wrote down that he said that,
Speaker 5: and I think Ryan it was Buddhism.
Speaker 1: He is a Buddhist.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that they practice is having no resistance, no judgment,
Speaker 5: and no attachment.
Speaker 3: That that's like, oh yeah, what what was that?
Speaker 4: That's three Buddhism to the core. Yeah, that's actually that's Buddhism.
Speaker 5: Well I wrote that crap down and I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: like I need to start sort that's what.
Speaker 4: It is all about.
Speaker 1: Yeah. His biggest client is Tony Robbin Jeon who that is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just saying, and he was on Mel Robin's podcast.
Speaker 3: Do are they related?
Speaker 1: To let me call him an ask? But anyway, So
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't, you know, talk contact modalities without
Speaker 1: talking about a lot of the the panels and the
Speaker 1: speakers there, and there were so many more, so many
Speaker 1: really cool ones that I got to meet. But we're
Speaker 1: kind of running short of time here, so I want
Speaker 1: to talk about the highlights and how blessed I was
Speaker 1: to meet Scott Walter and Dan Brulay that made because
Speaker 1: I want people to understand that like maybe maybe that
Speaker 1: maybe that experience for them was meeting us, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I don't know, but what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is like, as someone who went there, me as someone
Speaker 1: who had to work the event, I had the thrill
Speaker 1: of meeting not only amazing Omi's, which we'll round out
Speaker 1: talking about that. I would love to go into some
Speaker 1: of the amazing experiences that we had with Omi's and
Speaker 1: people friends that we recognize, but I got to have
Speaker 1: the experience too of meeting like so many other cool people,
Speaker 1: which is like amazing, like there's there's you know. It
Speaker 1: was such a packed conference with some really cool speakers
Speaker 1: and presenters and amazing people, you know, like the guests,
Speaker 1: the or the experiencers as they called it. It was
Speaker 1: x apperiancer and then the people who were like like us,
Speaker 1: like presenting it was ex pert so experts and experiencer
Speaker 1: and I thought that was really cool. And then the
Speaker 1: team was called the x pansion team like expansions, so
Speaker 1: I like the branding. Yeah, but yeah, so gonna breeze
Speaker 1: past this. We did have a skywash Saturday night because
Speaker 1: the first night it was rained out, so then Saturday
Speaker 1: night it just organically happened. We went out there. We
Speaker 1: skywashed with eighty people. It was amazing, as you would expect,
Speaker 1: we saw about twenty to twenty five orbs. It was
Speaker 1: very cold, very very cold on on with a lot
Speaker 1: of light pollution, and we're at this public resort, which
Speaker 1: as beautiful as it was, there were other parties of
Speaker 1: people that not related to the conference who were just
Speaker 1: vacationing at the resort, Like about one hundred yards from us,
Speaker 1: there was a bonfire with like ten people, so like
Speaker 1: it was a little but we still saw twenty to
Speaker 1: twenty five ords.
Speaker 4: That's great, crowd of eighty people, fantastic, and.
Speaker 1: That was amazing. That's that's like as usual. That is
Speaker 1: always amazing. And now I wanted to round out with
Speaker 1: the omis omens because there were so many amazing omis there,
Speaker 1: namely Jenny. I think there was somebody there that you
Speaker 1: really resonated with, you.
Speaker 3: Know who I mean, I resonated with a lot of people.
Speaker 5: But Lee had hung out with us all weekend, so
Speaker 5: Cosmos in the discord, we hung out all weekend, and
Speaker 5: I definitely decided that he was definitely my brother in
Speaker 5: a different lifetime.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 5: He's just I don't I just don't know what it
Speaker 5: is about that guy. But I told him over and
Speaker 5: over again, I'm like, man, I.
Speaker 3: Just really like you.
Speaker 5: I don't know why he let me wear his little
Speaker 5: his cute little jacket because I was so cold. He
Speaker 5: actually gave it to Ryan and I'm like, skirt hold on.
Speaker 3: The jacket. So I wore that jacket.
Speaker 5: But I really really enjoyed my time with Lee, with Lisa,
Speaker 5: with Sammy. We got to see John, and we met
Speaker 5: I met this woman named Paige.
Speaker 3: Paige was awesome.
Speaker 5: She's an attorney and has a very special mission of
Speaker 5: her own to try and like raise awareness for this
Speaker 5: sort of stuff in that space and and help you know,
Speaker 5: attorneys become more spiritually aware.
Speaker 3: And that kind of thing. There's I mean, there's an
Speaker 3: endless amount of people. Rex was really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there were there were literally hundreds of people.
Speaker 3: I got along with Andrew and Lauren, who I just
Speaker 3: really really loved them.
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah yeah right from Florida, Florida. Right, it
Speaker 1: gets hard to cross where they were all come. I'
Speaker 1: pretty sure.
Speaker 3: They can think to Florida. I'm pretty sure that was Texas.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You might be right now and I'm
Speaker 1: freaking out. But there was a lot of almies, a
Speaker 1: lot of repeats, like Derek and John they came and
Speaker 1: Ryan Westfall yep, Ryan Westfall that's right. Yeah, he only
Speaker 1: lived like like forty minutes from there, so it was
Speaker 1: an easy, breezy drive for him and many Omi's like,
Speaker 1: it would be impossible for me to go through all
Speaker 1: the names and new people.
Speaker 3: Yes, mateo oh Russ was there.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean Madeo. I said that to him, and
Speaker 1: he came up to me. He's like, damn, bro, You're
Speaker 1: the only one who's ever said it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I loved him.
Speaker 5: I loved him because he's like he was cool. He's like,
Speaker 5: are y'all going contact in the desert? I was like yeah,
Speaker 5: He's like, all right, I'll pull up. Then I'm like, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: He lives in California.
Speaker 3: He brought his mother.
Speaker 5: Of all people, he brought his mother, which I thought
Speaker 5: was so precious and so sweet. But anyway, we hung
Speaker 5: out with him for a while. We hung out with
Speaker 5: him a little bit of the restaurant. There were these
Speaker 5: two women and mother daughter from Chile.
Speaker 1: I kind of brought him in. He was walking down
Speaker 1: the hallway and and I wanted to snatch him and
Speaker 1: just plant them on.
Speaker 5: Our table for and we had our friend from the
Speaker 5: Azalea Festival who wrote bring it on Aquamarine mean girls.
Speaker 1: Yep, but what was her name again?
Speaker 3: Jess, give me Jess. Yes, she was amazing.
Speaker 1: She was actually wrote the movie Bringing On Cheerleader.
Speaker 4: Movie with hand Pin that was like one of my
Speaker 4: sister's favorite movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was there at the to meet her.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I got her number. I remember that I
Speaker 1: got her number. Oh, Molly Stromberg looks.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to offend anybody by omission. And just
Speaker 1: please keep in mind that we could go on and
Speaker 1: on and on and on and on and on and
Speaker 1: on naming names. So if there's any name that we
Speaker 1: particularly missed, please know that it's just impossible sit here
Speaker 1: and name every name, and and and everyone that we
Speaker 1: meet is equally special and equally amazing.
Speaker 5: And I appreciate the people that shared their stories with
Speaker 5: us too. It's very brave to be able to come
Speaker 5: into There were some people that you know, had nobody
Speaker 5: else to talk to. I know you and Alex get
Speaker 5: it too from being at Riverfest and Azalea Festival. But
Speaker 5: who opened up their hearts to us and we're like,
Speaker 5: I've never done this before, and you know, talk to us,
Speaker 5: maybe shed a.
Speaker 3: Tear or two. Oh yeah, lots of teerments meant a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing, and I have to say, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I said, you know, we're done with names,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to give one special mention to Lee
Speaker 1: because Cosmos in our discord, we have played hundreds of
Speaker 1: hours worth of video games together, nice literally hundreds, like
Speaker 1: lots of Marvel Rivals since it came out in December
Speaker 1: that's five months now. But also like last year, we
Speaker 1: had a solid four to six months straight stint of
Speaker 1: like sometimes eight hours a day just playing through Vauheim
Speaker 1: all the way from the very beginning to completion, and
Speaker 1: he was there the whole time. Plus we've played Hell
Speaker 1: Divers and it's just like we've played hundreds of hours
Speaker 1: of video games together and I had no clue what
Speaker 1: to even look like it's And he was standing at
Speaker 1: the table towards the end of the first day when
Speaker 1: we were closing it down, and he was just standing
Speaker 1: at the end of the table, and I went and
Speaker 1: I looked at him and and I had no clue
Speaker 1: who he was. And then you know, he was just like,
Speaker 1: I'm Lee, And I freaked out and I went and
Speaker 1: gave him a husband, Oh my god, dude, and I
Speaker 1: just like brought them with me the whole weekend, you know,
Speaker 1: come to dinner with us, coming to lunch with it,
Speaker 1: you know, and like every time I have my eyes
Speaker 1: on him, I was like, he're coming with me, and
Speaker 1: that was a great feeling for me.
Speaker 5: One of the most precious moments was when we were
Speaker 5: eating dinner together at one of the places and he
Speaker 5: just goes, would anybody be willing to split a caesar
Speaker 5: salad with me? I just really feel like I need
Speaker 5: some greens. And I was like, I love you, I'm
Speaker 5: on the same wavelength. Yes, I will share a caesar
Speaker 5: salad with you. So then the caesar salad gets to
Speaker 5: the table and he just goes, Emily, would you like
Speaker 5: some caesar salads with no croutons? And he's like yeah,
Speaker 5: but you know, Jenny and I don't like the creutons.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, because we're brother and sister.
Speaker 1: That's why they all really did have kind of like
Speaker 1: a little brother.
Speaker 3: And so oh In Hakeem.
Speaker 5: Hakeem was a great part of the conference. He He's
Speaker 5: sat at our booth a lot.
Speaker 3: To promote the side games which are coming up.
Speaker 1: That brings me to my next point. Thank you very
Speaker 1: much for reminding me because I wanted to round out
Speaker 1: the episode just mentioning three of our amazing podcast guests, namely,
Speaker 1: my brother from Another Mother, Hakeem. Those are his words,
Speaker 1: but now they're also mine. The brother from Another Mother,
Speaker 1: Hannah summer Hill from our Hannifesting, Yeah, the Hanifesting episode.
Speaker 1: And then Megan Solar Glow, the Downs and Rods. The
Speaker 1: three of them were there, and obviously I had known
Speaker 1: Hannah and Hakem in person, but it was my first
Speaker 1: time meeting Megan in person. And it's just like that
Speaker 1: thing when you meet someone online and you get along
Speaker 1: and you vibe it's great, but then you meet in
Speaker 1: person and it's just next level like it, it takes
Speaker 1: it to another level. And Meghan is just so sweet.
Speaker 1: She's an amazing, amazing human being. And Meghan and Hannah
Speaker 1: were roommates. They booked a room together and Meghan was
Speaker 1: a presenter, but she ended up telling us that she
Speaker 1: mainly agreed to do this because she knew we would
Speaker 1: be there, and then she you know, she wanted to
Speaker 1: hang with us, and she was like, cool, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: present stuff. And then Hannah was like, okay, Meghan's going
Speaker 1: Ryan and his family and Jenny because you are going
Speaker 1: because she knows Jenny, but she hadn't met the rest
Speaker 1: of my family. She's like, what, dang, now I'm going,
Speaker 1: you know, because she's friends with Meghan if you remember
Speaker 1: I met her through Hannah, right, Yeah, So they got
Speaker 1: a roommate a room situation, and then Hakeem came. So
Speaker 1: it was like the three of us or you know,
Speaker 1: the four of us and then plus our family, you know,
Speaker 1: like we're just really kind of clung together and had
Speaker 1: like a tribe and it was amazing. And then onto
Speaker 1: the side games. Yes, I wanted to end this saying,
Speaker 1: you know, Contact Modalities twenty twenty five was amazing. It
Speaker 1: was an amazing experience. I'm very happy that that we
Speaker 1: got to do this, and I'm blessed that, you know,
Speaker 1: Mel was so kind enough to call me up and
Speaker 1: want us to officially represent the podcast. That's awesome. It's
Speaker 1: a first for us that for years we had talked
Speaker 1: about this. And my goal is that, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: if I ask a really nicely and twist arm a
Speaker 1: little bit, maybe we could get you guys out there too.
Speaker 1: But that's a discussion for later. Just putting out on
Speaker 1: the table like a delicious liner. Wait, but before you.
Speaker 5: Go into uh, I also want to say that I
Speaker 5: loved being a solar glow and with Hannah as well. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they there, as you know, some of my favorites, and
Speaker 5: any time I could, I took a chance to sit
Speaker 5: next to them or to hang out with them, and
Speaker 5: it was really special to see them again for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Hakeem as well. I think you guys really
Speaker 1: had some time.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Of course, you guys really bonded this week.
Speaker 5: He's like he's a family friend, just like a family,
Speaker 5: you know, he's part of the family.
Speaker 1: Side of this. I mean, we bring many people into
Speaker 1: our family. But yeah, I mean I met him at
Speaker 1: my nephew's birthday party.
Speaker 3: You know, that's the first time I met him too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like I didn't even realize. That's the thing. I
Speaker 3: didn't even know how.
Speaker 5: Keem outside of just family for a while, you know,
Speaker 5: I'd never seen him at an event, and all of
Speaker 5: a sudden he's at his alia with us, and then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden he's at this and I'm just.
Speaker 1: Like, okay with me.
Speaker 3: It's like, I guess we're just partners. I guess we're
Speaker 3: just doing this thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hakeem Is is a part of the family for sure.
Speaker 1: I feel very comfortable and safe with him around. He
Speaker 1: has such a like a a blanketing energy when you're
Speaker 1: with him. It's just like I'm good, Like I can relax,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Well, he's got your back. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wanted to just talk about the side
Speaker 1: games because that's coming up. That's August, like the I
Speaker 1: don't know the exact dat if it's the first or
Speaker 1: the second, but it's like that first weekend of August, first,
Speaker 1: second third, first second third. Okay, so guys, just go
Speaker 1: to siegames International. I mean, I'll google it, but I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's sygames International dot com. And if you
Speaker 1: haven't heard this episode yet, go back to the episode
Speaker 1: from a couple of weeks ago where we had on Hockeyen.
Speaker 1: It's called Psychic Training, and just listen to it and
Speaker 1: and we talk about the side games on there. It's
Speaker 1: going to be an amazing event Charlottesville, YEP, at the
Speaker 1: Omni Hotel, and there are going to be some legendary
Speaker 1: human beings there like Tom Campbell. You'll know who that is.
Speaker 1: He's a first scientist to help Robert Monroe. What Yeah,
Speaker 1: whoa the original way? Do you ever read Robert Monroe's
Speaker 1: books or you know, for anybody out there who has it,
Speaker 1: you'll read about the physicist, the guy that helped him
Speaker 1: like set up his labs and do all these experiences. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Tom Campbell. He's going to be the keynote speaker.
Speaker 1: And you know, my dad is a guest, and many
Speaker 1: other really amazing people Colonel John, Alexander Powell, Diane Powell
Speaker 1: from the Telepathy.
Speaker 5: Tapes YEP CEO, Alan Evans YEP CEO, and a friend
Speaker 5: of ours, Chris Ramsey YEP. And also Jeffrey Misch love Hello.
Speaker 5: That's huge. And Hakeem is just like true ninja fashion.
Speaker 5: He's invisible, but then he pops up out into the
Speaker 5: light of day and he's just surrounded by the most
Speaker 5: amazing people everywhere he goes. So side games will be awesome.
Speaker 5: I'll be a commentator actually, like a literal commentator of
Speaker 5: the events. I got to do a little bit of
Speaker 5: psychic training this weekend at Contact Modality's expo with Hakeem
Speaker 5: and it was so fun. He has this little device,
Speaker 5: I think it's called a Hagley wheel or.
Speaker 1: Something like that. Oh, and I got to meet his
Speaker 1: mind sight master Wendy, and she'll be there at the
Speaker 1: side games. Yeah, hey what Yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess I've never met.
Speaker 1: You know, you weren't there. Oh okay, I was like
Speaker 1: that she was one of the people. I can't believe
Speaker 1: I even forgot to say this. She was one of
Speaker 1: the people that had a seat at the panel.
Speaker 3: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't even realize that. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. It was amazing. Yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of amazing people there and yeah, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: pretty much it.
Speaker 4: Know, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a huge hit and looking forward to what's
Speaker 1: next for us and our crew. And I think we're
Speaker 1: just getting started. Man, I think that we just dipped
Speaker 1: our toes into a great, nice warm, uh hot tub
Speaker 1: of you know, like.
Speaker 3: Lake superior, Yeah, lake superior size.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say something stupid and really dumb, like,
Speaker 1: you know, our future.
Speaker 4: But a nice warm hot tub of our future.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like eased into the metaphors, like you know,
Speaker 1: you're easing to the hot tub. But I think we're
Speaker 1: like easing into that. But next thing, you know, we're
Speaker 1: going to be diving in and I think we'll probably
Speaker 1: be doing stuff like this a lot more regularly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels that way. And this was a great first experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and for the first time doing this event, like
Speaker 4: it sounds like it was a huge success.
Speaker 1: Absolutely for them, Yeah, for them, yeah.
Speaker 4: And for everyone involved. Yes, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: And for us, you know, it just was a great energy,
Speaker 1: great vibes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure they'll keep doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it was Oh no, it's they're already selling
Speaker 1: tickets for next year.
Speaker 5: It's It was awesome to see our our merch in
Speaker 5: all these different places too, people of all different ages,
Speaker 5: all different backgrounds wearing our merch was really really sweet
Speaker 5: to see in the wild.
Speaker 1: You know what's really I got a first experience with
Speaker 1: this this time. So there was a guy there named Devon.
Speaker 1: He was a really sweet guy and he had an
Speaker 1: experience that really impacted him that he shared with me.
Speaker 1: Something about him that stood out to me is he
Speaker 1: had our trucker hat and that thing was brown.
Speaker 4: Mine is due that it had been worn so much.
Speaker 1: And I hope he's okay with me saying this, and
Speaker 1: I say this in a loving way, but that made
Speaker 1: me realize that, and I'm just taking a shot in
Speaker 1: the dark hair. But maybe he wears that hat so
Speaker 1: much because it means something so deep for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he wears is so much that it is like
Speaker 1: completely faded and dirty.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And like the thought of that, like the pathetic feeling
Speaker 1: of that for me was like damn dude, Like he is,
Speaker 1: you know, wearing this and representing it proudly, and like
Speaker 1: just the implication for me was like this means something
Speaker 1: so profound to him, what else does it mean for others?
Speaker 1: You know, Like there's a deep layer to this work
Speaker 1: that we're doing here that you know, just goes beyond
Speaker 1: a show, Like it's really impacting people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, last thing for me, though, I want to shout
Speaker 3: out Hayden as well.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Hayden.
Speaker 3: For some reason, I really liked Hayden as well. I
Speaker 3: was really sweet.
Speaker 5: He's just a fan of the podcast and you know,
Speaker 5: was really sweet about it. He'd brought along a friend
Speaker 5: to kind of his friend was dipping his toes into
Speaker 5: all of this stuff, and he was.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you know, I wanted to bring him along.
Speaker 5: To meet you guys. And he was just a really
Speaker 5: sweet guy. Too, and I think him and Lee were
Speaker 5: talking a little bit about gaming, and Lee ended up
Speaker 5: saying like once Hayden walked away, Lee was like, I'm
Speaker 5: really excited for him to start gaming with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got his number and I was like, we need.
Speaker 5: A He was a sweet guy too, so I made it.
Speaker 5: I made him sit next to us at one of
Speaker 5: the talks. I'm like, hey, didn get over here, come.
Speaker 3: And sit over here by us. So it was sweet.
Speaker 1: It was great, and now I'm at peace. I feel
Speaker 1: like I've said everything I need to say. Do you
Speaker 1: guys have any thoughts or are you? Are you good?
Speaker 4: Sounds awesome. I hope I can make it to the
Speaker 4: next one.
Speaker 5: Oh and you know, you know not Bloodsoe events, or
Speaker 5: you know, this wasn't a Bloodsoe event, but at all
Speaker 5: of our events there has to be an animal. There
Speaker 5: was a dog at this one, the cutest little dog, Plato.
Speaker 5: It was a little miniature ausy, like a Collie mini thing,
Speaker 5: and it was so stinking cute. And I also had
Speaker 5: a blast with that little thing. And that's all I
Speaker 5: had as fun.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: But yeah, thank you Mel for the opportunity to come
Speaker 3: to an event. Like this. It was.
Speaker 5: It was very interesting. It was my first event at
Speaker 5: a UFOE type thing, and it was really nice to
Speaker 5: be there as a family and to meet others that
Speaker 5: are now in you know, engulfed in our family. I
Speaker 5: don't think that's the right word.
Speaker 1: But now adopted.
Speaker 3: Yeah adopted yeah, so yeah, it was really awesome.
Speaker 1: It was awesome.
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