Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied the Bench.
Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising
Kine Studio.
Speaker 2: All right, an, welcome back in.
Speaker 3: OTV here on a Monday morning. Worry we'll find our
way back to the LSU game. Watch some tape where
we're going home. So up where we're going? Uh, well,
figured we'd go talk about the New Orleans Saints since
they whoa, whoa, whoa got a victory, sir against the
Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2: Good. I'm excited. I'm trying to before.
Speaker 3: We get there, though, because we had some squirrels here
in the studio. Some Charger Steeler highlights. Great uniform matchup
last night. I was trying to see if I could
find and Lab McConkie just scored, and Moscona bet me
that Lad wouldn't have two thousand career receiving yards career.
And I think Lad right now is right at eighteen
hundred in two years, actually a year.
Speaker 2: And a year and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was just seeing how close we were,
so yeah, he's right at eighteen hundred, so two or
more yards and that's gonna win me that bet so
trying to keep trying.
Speaker 4: Uh, probably we take over his slot.
Speaker 2: Probably, Well I'm working during that time. Yeah, we don't
want it. Yeah, I kind of like you early. Actually,
you know, the berg is worm, the whole deal.
Speaker 3: We don't care about that, that's true.
Speaker 2: I show gets started like eight or nine, probably that
that's that's the.
Speaker 3: I'd like that when I first got when I let's see,
twenty what year we start doing all this, twenty eighteen? Yeah,
yeahs twenty eighteen, right, yeah, sure, that sounds yeah, that
sounds right. Because I worked. I started here in February.
Then I started in series six in March. It was
like boom boom, boom boom that morning show used to
do for Series x M on the SEC channel. He
used to start at sixth Central. There's a big difference
between six and seven. Yeah, it's different. I mean it's
a giant, giant it's only an hour.
Speaker 2: But well you started at six in the morning. Yeah,
it was. It was a sixth It was a six
to nine.
Speaker 3: Show because it was like they were based it off
Eastern time zone, right, so it was drift time for
the East Coast, and it's before I could do it
from my house because like COVID changed all that. But
before I used to have to come in here, I'd
go down to Proad one and then I have to
get on comrades and then do the whole deal. So
like I was getting here like at five fifteen to
try to because I had to set it all up myself.
Speaker 2: It's a big difference.
Speaker 5: But that that that National morning show that comes on
what is it? I always read the name.
Speaker 2: The only person to know that listens to it, and
I'm not trying to on the drive here the one
before us on Sportsman.
Speaker 5: On sport they come on at six am Eastern time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, five five items, that's what time our morning shower
eight four. Dusty and Danny they come on at six
and Dusty lives in Oklahoma City, so it's five am
for him.
Speaker 5: Rose m only one good reason to wake up that
early is that if you're going, that's if you're growing hunting.
Speaker 4: With the un change, I feel like I've been waking
up earlier.
Speaker 2: You worked out early sometimes? Yeah, you like work out
of like four thirty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's how do you get the muscles working
at that time. Self hate, self hate. I was gonna
say self talks, but.
Speaker 4: Okay, you's got to really hate yourself.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah. When I was looking at here, it don't
be no punk, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: When I was in Seattle, Uh, Pete Carroll had brought
David Goggins into talk to our team. And I don't
know if, like I'm sure a lot of us listen,
don't know who David Goggins is. He's I think he's
he was, uh, he's He went through buds so he
was like a navy seal. He was like an army
ranger and like uh, coast guard. Like he passed all
the like the three like most excruciating like tests or whatever.
He does all this crazy ultra marathons, and he gave
us like he was talking to us and super inspiraing
like super incredible person, like incredible mental toughness, physical toughness,
everything can overcome anything. But we were kind of laughing
afterwards because it was like everything he did, he scheduled
his entire life around things he hates because of mental toughness.
What do I wake up early because I don't want
to wake up early. I want to be tough. I
go run one hundred mile marathon because I hate it.
I'm like, all right, well, like what do you do
that you like? Was my thought. It was like we
were kind of like laughing. We weren't making fun. We
were just like adding on. It's like, well, yeah, divorce
my wife because I loved her too much. Mental toughness,
got rid of everything, everything.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it was wild.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: He gave us some wild story.
Speaker 5: Like the first like first time he he uh, he
had to qualify for some ultra marathon. I think it
was like in South America or something like that, and
he had to run around a track at a high
school eighty miles had a run and I completely can
you imagine running a circle at a high school?
Speaker 2: Okay, like if you're gonna.
Speaker 5: Do it, just running down the road or something, Yeah,
in a circle. And I think he said he brought
like two he wasn't prepared. He brought like two or
three like packs of like Ritz crackers. Yeah, like I'll
get you and some water. Yeah the stuff and Ritz
is really good for anyway, he did it the right
he did it, and then he had to go to
the hospital because he had like a torn splane and
he had like tons of broken bones at his feet
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Sounds like it was worth it.
Speaker 7: Shout out to uh, my guy Walker. So Walker is
one of the owners at the gym the block that
I go to, and.
Speaker 2: He's like, yes, never heard that.
Speaker 7: He is a marathon runner and he did an ultra
marathon this weekend.
Speaker 4: He ran one hundred miles.
Speaker 8: Ran.
Speaker 7: Shout out to Walker, like he killed it. He went
up to Illinois, ran one hundred miles. I think it
took him thirteen hours or something like that. He kept
like an eight minute pace, yeah, or less the entire time.
Speaker 5: That's wild like doing that. Like so a lot of
those ultra marathons that they'll they'll run for like twenty
four hours, yeah, because they can't keep that up. And
sometimes it's like through the woods and sometimes it's like
all these different stuff like I don't know, like I
don't know what drives you to do that, What joy
you get from doing that besides like just over like
wanting to overcome obstacles in life. And that's that's awesome,
But it sounds like horrible, horrible death to me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did eight miles yesterday, and that's the furthest
I've ever ran.
Speaker 2: That's a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see, it's a lot, all right, all right,
So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Because you saw a squirrel. Yep, David Gogan, squirrel.
Speaker 3: We'll finish this and then we'll come back to the Saints.
You got to promise me at eight fifteen, though, we'll
come back to the Saints. I guess, Okay, what is
the hardest thing that you've ever physically had to do?
And I'm not talking about for you, not a game
that I didn't count. I'm talking about a workout, because
we actually might have the same one. I'm not sure
it is eight miles. The hardest you've played is pretty hard.
Speaker 7: But like when we used to do Matt drills, Like
I don't know if y'all did them in football, but
like we did Matt drills and softball, and those used
to make me want to throw up all over the place.
So probably Mat drills or any CrossFit that I used
to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Hey, yeah it was this.
Speaker 8: We did this CrossFit going into the senior year of football.
But we did it on our track and like you
would have to run stop at a workstation lift. The
whole run wound up being about two two and a
half miles, but like you had a bunch of weights
and stuff in between.
Speaker 2: And it was my first time doing it. I remember
it was. It was awful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a great question. I'm trying to think
back on it. So Matt drills in high school were
like legit, legitim terrible. It was one of those things.
But I honestly don't know if it was the hardest thing,
but it was the first thing.
Speaker 4: That's probably what it is for me.
Speaker 5: I do remember doing it and like not being able
to sleep the night before, not being able to like
I knew what kind of hell was like looking I
was going into and it was like you threw up
every time every day, Like there was trash cans all
over the map.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then fourth quarter.
Speaker 5: Program Nick Saban's fourth quarter program, there was trash cans
all over the field. Right the day we ran thirty
something one ten.
Speaker 2: That was that was for me.
Speaker 3: The day we ran thirty I remember thirty four to
thirty six. Really think it was thirty four, thirty two
or thirty four. It wasn't thirty six.
Speaker 5: It was the day that we started over because Ben
we talked about Benny Brazil's here. It was an Olympian
who wasn't like finished, he wasn't winning every race, and
who got back from the by.
Speaker 3: The way, who was coming in under every time, which
was the rule if you come in under time. Benny
was crushing it, but wasn't winning every race, and so
since he was an Olympian, he should have been winning
every race according to coach Saban, and so we started
our entire runover because of that.
Speaker 5: Yep, I remember, I remember running and this is probably
late in the twenties of these one tens, and we're
in pretty good shape. I mean we're young, we're we're
in good shape.
Speaker 2: I'll say easy.
Speaker 5: I remember like mid stride because we still have to
beat a time, like we had to beat what sixteen
seventeen seconds. I remember running a stride and like puking
over my shoulder and like not being able to stop
and just having it go. And it was that was
pretty brutal time. I don't know if anything will ever,
like mentally in my brain, be harder than the Matt
drills we did at Robert Lee High School. In Tyler,
Texas with coach Gary Fleet, the offensive line coach, like
stereotypical offensive line coach, yelling loud voice the first time
like in my life, I've been coached with curse words.
Speaker 7: I didn't even know girls were allowed to do matt
drills and we were doing oh.
Speaker 8: Man, we may have called them something different. What are
matt drills are.
Speaker 5: You're on a wrestling matt Yeah, and basically like so,
how we did it was there was a series of
drills you would do.
Speaker 2: So you'd have to.
Speaker 7: Do like literally flips, like flips, barrel roll uh, like
put your knee down wherever they.
Speaker 5: Pointed, belly just like dropping on your chest like you
would do this one. Things were like yeah, kind of
like berbies, but you'd hit your chest. Then you'd have
to like spin and hit your back, so you have
to hit your chest in your back and then get up.
Then you have to jump. Then you like he said,
get out of here, and you have to roll like
I remember one with the bear cross stands like this
way roll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and then you had to roll.
Speaker 5: Yeah, did you have to roll in the middle of
the mat and then dives with your hand pass or like.
Speaker 7: Sprint and if you had to like hit the wall
and say there's something every year like win or team
or something, and if nobody did it, you had to
start all over.
Speaker 5: It was yeah, everybody had start over. And I remember
like hitting your chest. I can't for whatever reason, I can't.
It's like a burbie, but you.
Speaker 2: Just hit your chest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did.
Speaker 2: We did sixty five of them one time, like in
one wrap. We did it on the field a few times.
We didn't have like matts like oh yeah those matt
saw some stuff.
Speaker 4: Man, if you never did madrills, you, I.
Speaker 2: Think everybody should have.
Speaker 3: Inside the chat here we're getting twenty mile march in
full combat year about two hundred and fifty pounds when
he was in the army, two hundred and fifty extra pounds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that that physical fitness test that you
have to do in the military. Now it's it's been
different in the last couple of years. It's a little
bit more crossfitting.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 5: It's a beast yeah what I don't think it was
for a while, but the last couple of years they
changed it and it's more of like the CrossFit type
of workout.
Speaker 2: Crossfits hard too, man.
Speaker 3: That's forty miler in Delta Force selection. Oh yeah, any
of these military workouts are beast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We used to like when when we were in San
diegother there's so many bases right there. We used to
always go every year one two, three practices and we
do it on the base, and they would always pick
out a rookie, like typically an undrafted guy, like a
rookie to do like that day's workout or like whatever
the obstacle course was, and you know, you're you're in
good shape, you're in football shape, whatever it was. They'd
go against either you know, it'd be Navy Army or
the Navy or Marine actually out there and they would
crush the pro athlete. I mean it was oh yeah,
it wouldn't even breathing hard there, rookies like after like
the first part of it.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like when the people used to come
into l s U when we were there and do the.
Speaker 2: Teachers the yogilatates.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and it was like we were exhausted, yeah,
and we were all like in the middle of summer workouts,
so we're in good shape, yeah, but not it doing
that different shape there, different type of shape.
Speaker 2: Staniel.
Speaker 5: The chat said, I fully expected Flynn is gonna say
waking up for OTB is the hardest thing he's ever
had to do. Yeah, he's been crushing that though. He's
been like I hadn't heard you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like David, because I hate it. That's why I
do it. Almost kind of a morning person. Now. Haven't
been late he it used to be he was never
on time. Yeah that he's never been late. I'm gonna
show up after six thirty very often.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm saying, like, you're here ready to go
when I come in here, you got your little notes
ready to go.
Speaker 5: I'd get here about ten minutes earlier today because it
took me ten minutes to walk up the stairs.
Speaker 8: Sure, that was like, I gotta, I gotta. I gotta
plan for extra time, A plan for action time because
it's back is marking. Mmm, hey we're gonna watch some film.
Yeah we are, I mean not right now like today.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, well, I mean you're the one seven screens,
you're the film guy. You got your mouse, but the
cord is way down there. I got I got you.
Speaker 4: Some one of us can pick it up for I
got you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it and I'll bring the BS and I
bring to b S. All right, we'll take a break.
More O TB when we come back off the bench.
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Speaker 2: It seems like you've done some deep research.
Speaker 5: Well it seems like I had, you know, elbleten and
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Speaker 2: Saints got to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, seventeen seven over the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2: That's good. I think it's good. It's how you play
to win the game.
Speaker 3: Tyler Shuk nineteen of twenty seven, two d and eighty
two yards ten point four per which is a great number.
Speaker 5: He did a really nice job in the game making
plays happen off schedule.
Speaker 2: He did a really good job off schedule, make us
a place. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one where Ivy and he just the
rusher was right there and he found a way and
got out like right at the last second, and it
was a big play to Juwan Johnson. I think that
was the fifty two yarder. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken there,
he is that the one early in the game. I
think the first the first big play.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was a great stepped.
Speaker 5: Up in the pocket, moved within the pocket, gave you
guys a chance and and look, you take advantage of
opportunities that you have and guys popped wide open. You
had a couple of dvs fall down and you got it.
But you don't make those plays unless like you're creating
that momentum, creating that time in the pocket and keeping
your eyes down field and then don't look now. Chris
of Olive Chris Alave has stacked a couple of really
nice games together in this season. He played great yesterday
one handed catch, made a great play on the long touchdown,
which was a great Tyler shuck. Is like the guy's
not not open. Throw it in a place that your
guy can make a play and give it a chance.
You see that play made by good quarterbacks all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look they were hand fighting.
Speaker 3: dB falls down, goes and scores in Juwan Johnson and
I'm not trying I swear to god, I'm not trying
to be funny. He caught the ball and held onto
the ball and made big plays like he's had moments
where he's caught the ball and fullbled it or had
it in his hands and dropped it like this is
the good part of Juwan Johnson. I mean even when
he catches it though it makes play waiting, I know,
because it doesn't look secure. It never looks doesn't look
like just a real like I stuck the catch. It's
like his fingers don't touch the ball, only as palms
touched the ball. I swear to guy, go back and
watch it, so he's playing with mittens. Swear every time
it feels like he catches it with his palm and
his fingers.
Speaker 5: Don't are you saying Juwan Johnson's football gloves receiver gloves
are actually receiver mittens. I think so that makes a
lot of sense. Yesterday he had.
Speaker 3: A big day, four for ninety two, had a score,
had the fifty two yarder, and the defense played incredible.
Speaker 2: Defense was great.
Speaker 3: And Caroline's not the best offense, but they certainly can
run the football. I mean, Rico dall Is somebody that
had been tearing it up over the last couple of weeks.
He has eighteen carries, only fifty three yards two point
nine yards per rush. And then for you on the
other side of it, I'm not saying that you set
the world on fire by any means running the football,
but you stayed committed to.
Speaker 2: Running the football.
Speaker 3: You ran it thirty seven times, only one hundred and
twenty two yards, but you stayed committed to it, time
of possession.
Speaker 5: Stayed on schedule. It helped you stay on schedule yesterday,
and that's what happened. Tyler Schuck making some plays. It
keeps the defense on their heels a little bit, keeps
them honests a little bit. You can't tee off you
can't predict when you're going to go run or pass,
which that's what happens with struggling offense. You saw it
with the Saints a lot this year. You see with
LSU you become very predictable. And I thought it was
a well a really well constructed game plan, really well executed.
Sure there's still issues on the offensive line, but Tyler
Tyler did a really good job. And people in the
huddle over here chat. Yeah, if you want to, how
much I wish we could name it the huddle again.
They said, Matt, you can't hate on Schuck today. I've
never hated on him, not one time. Just want you
all to know that. Let the record show. I hope
he's an all pro guy. I hope the Saints got there,
got their guy, and it looked like it yesterday.
Speaker 3: Now you gotta stack games, of course, but yeah, that's
and that's got a stack. Yeah, this isn't hated on
Tyler Shuck. This is when Spencer Ratler was getting all
the blames. Like Spencer's doing some good things out there,
and Spencer had what was it the Giants game that
Spencer played like this and the that was the win,
right And so to Matt's point, that's great. Now you
gotta go stack another one because last time, last last
game for Tyler Struck wasn't great.
Speaker 2: This one was great.
Speaker 5: Got all indications, all indications from yesterday. I'm a big arm,
calm calm in the pocket. Uh made plays within the pocket.
UH created more time for his receivers and found the guys.
So like, it was a lot too, a lot to
be excited about for Saints fans and for Kellen Moore
and that whole staff. There was a lot of good
things right now. Now now it's like, now you start
playing the numbers game with wins, losses, draft picks.
Speaker 2: What Tyler's doing? Are we going for a quarterback? Are
we not?
Speaker 5: Hopefully he kept he keeps on this trajectory so they
don't have to and they can because there's so many
areas that you need that you don't want to have
to spend a lot of draft capital.
Speaker 2: Because you don't have a lot of draft capital. Right
you know, you picked up a couple of picks at
the trade headline.
Speaker 5: They tried to feed val try to get that fourth
round use out of him.
Speaker 2: He had boy and catch fifteen yards.
Speaker 5: Not a big deal stack him, but a love looking
like a one receiver a little bit a couple of
times this year. Now kind of goes dark for a
little bit every now and then.
Speaker 3: Well we know, like having the number one pick and
potentially quarterbacks like and you want to take a franchise
when you haven't done so.
Speaker 2: We know all the stats.
Speaker 3: But to your point, they need so much help, and
receiver is a spot that they desperately need help because
a lave went out there and had a great game.
But then your second leading receiver, a tight end, your
third leading receiver a running back, your fourth leading receiver
a tight end. Vele was your second leading wide receiver
and he had fifteen yards. Two receivers, two actual receivers
caught passes in this game for the Saints, and you
threw for two hundred and eighty two yards. Like, that's
a real issue. I don't care who's playing quarterback. They
got to go get some more weapons for whoever it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an issue for sure, But I mean, look,
it's well you can look at it like that or
you can look say, hey, we were able to throw
two hundred and eight two yards and only two receivers
caught pass. So there's there was positives out there, certainly
Carolina Panthers. They did not play very good. Bryce Young
might be the worst established starter in the NFL.
Speaker 3: And seventeen of twenty five one hundred and twenty four yards,
five yards in a ten no touchdowns, one interception, two sacks, yay's.
Speaker 5: Bat yep, good completion percentage. The xavior Leaett he had
an opportunity for a one hitded catch, zero catches, zero yards.
Speaker 2: He's coming though. Camara added eighty three to my total.
Speaker 4: He did he played, so.
Speaker 2: Turn back the clock.
Speaker 3: Not gonna happen, but the way better chance of that
than the get Let.
Speaker 2: Me tell you, NFL football is wild. It's just NFL.
NFL football is a wild it.
Speaker 5: Says football in this t no, the NFL, National Football League,
National Football leage football.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of issues pal NFL's wild.
Speaker 5: Who had the dollar being the Bills thirty to thirteen,
Bill's covering nine and a half.
Speaker 7: Okay, but remember at the beginning of the season, we
were like dang Tua kind of went toe to toe
with Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right.
Speaker 3: But even in that game though, remember they got like
a back door cover.
Speaker 2: So they wound. Yeah, I think it was. It was
closer than it. But then like the scoring and then
they scored at the end. Yeah, uh huh.
Speaker 8: But if you go look at that game yesterday, keep trying.
I didn't get to watch it. I keep trying to
figure out how the Dolphins won this game? Why to
a teg of one hundred and seventy three yards passing
two interceptions, Josh Allen three hundred and six yards passing
only one turnover, and we did have the fumble as well.
Speaker 5: But well because seventy four yards ran it for off?
Is it like everybody pronounced it differently. I've always said
a chain. I've always said a change too.
Speaker 3: That's what Jimbo says, and that's the that was his
coaching college. I've always said, all right, I think it's
a change, yep.
Speaker 5: I mean how they win because they I watched a
lot of it. It wasn't like even necessarily closed. Josh
Allen like, who are you? You're an alien sometimes and
sometimes it's not a great alien, right. I said that
for years, and you have been saying and it's still
the same you Bob used to always be like, oh,
that's so dumb.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I look a likely guy a lot.
Speaker 3: But it's like every time I'm ready to fully get
myself over to him.
Speaker 2: I know this happened, he.
Speaker 5: Breaks your heart. Like last year it didn't happen a lot.
But like he's made some he's making some wild plays.
The AFC is wide open, wide open. I think there's
some leaders in the clubhouse for sure.
Speaker 3: Like what the Patriots are doing winning seven in a row,
that's very impressive. The Broncos have won seven in a row.
It's a different style of impressive because yeah, they've played
some really really bad teams and they've had some really
bad offense with that defens is super elite. Uh, charges
of one three in a row. The Ravens don't look
now they like.
Speaker 2: But they did. I was watching that game yesterday. They
didn't even look great.
Speaker 5: Every time I would I had like the little quad
box going yeah, And so every time I would like
get my eyeballs to them, like Lamar is either getting
sacked or getting crushed as he was throwing it. Yeah,
Like they didn't even look impressive. But then I look
at the scoreboard. They're killing it. I think the Bears
on the NFC side have won six their last seven.
By the way, the Bears Bears won six of their
last seven. The NFL is a wild season right now.
Speaker 3: The Giants are creating ways to lose games, new ways.
It's Jackson Darts. Gotta he's gonna have to play little.
He's gonna play a little. He's not gonna play for
a long time. No, he can't.
Speaker 2: He can't continue doing what he's doing.
Speaker 5: Your brain can only receive too many bruises. For so
many bruises. But it was fun to watch yesterday. A
little snow in that game. That's football, baby.
Speaker 2: I love scene. I love snow games.
Speaker 5: Nothing more exciting, nothing more beautiful, romantic, that little snowy
football game.
Speaker 4: The Packers are still sitting at the top of the NFC.
Speaker 2: North, by the way, No, it's wild though.
Speaker 3: Packers would be the three seed. I believe in the
NFC right now too. It'd be Seattle, Philly, Green Bay, Tampa,
La Detroit.
Speaker 5: The Lions are the best team in that right the
second The Lions are the best thing.
Speaker 2: Now we'll see the night.
Speaker 7: I'm a little surprised that the Packers are ahead of them,
but that tie. Yeah, Lions and Bears are neck and
neck though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the Lions are, I believe right now, the
best team in that division.
Speaker 2: But we'll see the night.
Speaker 5: We'll see what who comes out jackal or hide For
the Packers, they play the Eagles at home. They just
got embarrassed at home by the Panthers, who lost to
the Saints.
Speaker 2: For crying out.
Speaker 3: Loud, Hey, it's the the Chargers loss to the Giants.
The Saints beat the Giants like it's true. It is
what it is. It's a wild game out there. It's exciting. Now,
y'all hate on me for what did you say?
Speaker 2: Football?
Speaker 5: NFL football? So y'all hated on me yesterday. I was
talking about how good Caleb Williams is. Y'all been laughing
at me. I'll been hating on me.
Speaker 2: It was his TikTok quarterback.
Speaker 5: It's true, always on he was Literally all quarterbacks are
on TikTok, and all of them there's clips on them,
most of them.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You think Matt Stafford's on TikTok clips?
Speaker 2: His wife Matt Stafford paints his nails.
Speaker 5: I would say like towards the end of that game,
so he kind of put the team on the back
at the end of the game.
Speaker 3: The thing about him, because you're right like he'll he'll
do some stuff. You're like, Okay, that's not normal, that's
somebody can do that. He always got in trouble because
he would try to go even above and beyond what
that was, what that was, and he didn't need to
and he didn't need to, which he seems like, well,
I think that's why I said Ben Johnson is the
best thing to have for that guyberflu was not.
Speaker 2: No, he did.
Speaker 5: He couldn't command a kindergarten room. Uh, but that guy
through a couple of passes over the middle yesterday like
seam routes that I would like to get the mile
per hour on him, Like they were humming, Yeah, looked
like me in that flag football game.
Speaker 2: Right there, like that one, but that was on the
run to the left colon.
Speaker 5: He throwed run into the left throwing it in between
the hashes, caught the back of the ball anyway.
Speaker 2: It was very impressive.
Speaker 5: If like, watch out for Kayle Williams in the next
couple of years as he gets more established than that.
Ben Johnson offense guys special talent. Yeah, using all his
weapons too. I know a lot of people hate on him.
I get it, but I just watched the football part.
Speaker 4: I gotta say, I don't mind the painted nails.
Speaker 2: I don't care about I don't care at all. I mean,
I'm not doing it, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you you're not doing it.
Speaker 2: I take a lot of pain cover tho. It's look
it would got like an actual gallon of fate.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, if you play tough on the football field,
I don't really care.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Seems like they are. They've won six of
their last seven.
Speaker 5: I told you to watch out for the Bears in
the back half of the season, but they kind of
already find they're finding ways to win, right. The Giants, Yeah,
they found a way to lose the game as well.
Speaker 3: It might all be for not though. In the NFC,
with the way Seattle's playing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, those guys.
Speaker 3: Sat Donald threw twelve passes yesterday and they won forty
four to twenty two.
Speaker 8: DeMarcus Lawrence had two almost identical plays like fumble recovery
returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: They were almost identify.
Speaker 5: Yeah, makes that Saints loss to him, not don't look
so bad.
Speaker 2: Isn't it.
Speaker 3: Zach Charbonnay and Kenneth Walker both really good running backs
seeing him. Darnald doing what he's doing, Jackson Smith and
Jigbo you got Cooper Cup just saying yeah, I'll have
a sixty seven yard catch. Yesterday sure Rashichia Heat only
had one catch. But now he adds himself into the mix.
The defense is really good.
Speaker 5: Seahawks are it might be a we're looking at Seahawks
Patriots super Bowl.
Speaker 2: He it's either going to run at this time or
throw it again. I don't think it matters this gesure.
All right, We'll take a break.
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Raisin King Studio.
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to Off the Bench.
Speaker 5: I've been rolling.
Speaker 6: Around looking down all love painted face is the place
is a carriage. You know that somebody.
Speaker 3: Happened to Kings of Leon. I mean, I know there's
still like a thing like a band. Hey had a
stranglehold a lot of a lot of music space there
for a while.
Speaker 5: First learned about kings Lean from your friend group, your
high school friend group at your wedding. Yeah, like they
were all listening to it and I was like, all right,
this is good. They're like, yeah, they're really famous in like,
uh in England. But aren't they aren't they from like
backcountry Kentucky or something like that like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they went over like Tennessee, yeah where they
went over to let's see England or something like before
they did a tour and everybody's these guys are kind
of good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But like there was that documentary I believe that came
out on and there was like a lot of like
math and stuff there.
Speaker 2: They dabble.
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, what artist doesn't you know.
Speaker 5: Amongst us just kidding, it's not a thing.
Speaker 2: Do do drugs? Yeah, but if you do, make sure
you're an artist.
Speaker 5: I mean, they make sure you're an artist. Creativeness they
had a run. They had a run and look timeless music.
Speaker 4: They released the album last year.
Speaker 3: I know that she's like doing stuff, but you know
what I mean, like every song they put out for
a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the good stuff. Yeah, yea question for us. Sorry, yeah,
I got a little hypothetical question for you guys.
Speaker 5: All right, bo uh So the San Francisco forty nine
ers we kind of talked about like how good they've
actually been this year despite like a plethora of injuries.
So they lose yesterday, they lose to the Rams. Rams
are they're they're good man. The Rams of Seahawks are
to me the top of the NFC right the second
at least. So they lose yesterday, But they've been doing
this all season with mac Jones. What mccorkyl, so what
you call him, mccork mccorkyl Jones, mccorkyl Jones, what I
call mother and father called former first round pick form
on the birth certificate. Yes, all right, so former first
round pick, former castaway of the NFL bust. So they
have been on a winning streak with him. Yesterday during
the game they lose, of course. So but he went
thirty three of thirty nine, three hundred and nineteen yards
three touchdowns. So in this scenario, what I'm thinking is,
do you, if you're the San Francisco forty nine ers,
do you think about trading brock Party if you're gonna
if you can command two to three first round picks
for him, Like what if you're going to trade him
to the Jets? What if you're going to trade him
to somebody that's looking for a quarterback to establish with
a new head coach, someone disciplined a good quarterback. Now,
this is not me saying that Brock Party is a
better quarterback than Mac Jones. I'm that's not yet. I
think Rock Party is a better quarterback than Matt Jones.
But the way he's playing, they have been to the
super Bowl with Garoppolo, they've been to the super Bowl
with Rock Party.
Speaker 2: How much better is he? Is he?
Speaker 5: So my scenario here is if, kid, if you could
trade Rock Party for let's just say two to three
first round picks and get rid of fifty something million
dollars per year, would you do it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 7: Leaning toward yes, But I don't know enough about the
forty nine ers, like what they have position wise if
they need the But I'm leaning towards us.
Speaker 5: So it's a situation that would like no one ever
thinks about trading their franchise quarterback, especially after you sign
him to a big deal.
Speaker 2: That's your franchise guy.
Speaker 5: But like, if any team doesn't need like a top
five quarterback, he would be the.
Speaker 3: Niner And they're like the only team that can draft
a guy like trade Lance give up what they did
and it didn't.
Speaker 2: Really and that hurt us. So that's the thing.
Speaker 5: If you're looking at this from that perspective in twenty
twenty one, they probably feel like they should have drafted
somebody else in the hundred.
Speaker 8: If you remember a pre draft thought it was macid
was going to be. When they traded up the three overall,
everybody said, well, it's going to be Lawrence Wilson mac
Jones three.
Speaker 5: If you can reset it, the same staff says we
should have picked him in the first place instead of
Trey Lance. Now we have him starting, and he has
won us many, many games so far with so many
injuries all around, and even in a losing effort yesterday
played really well. I think it's a question worth asking.
It's a scenario worth exploring for them, especially if somebody,
maybe maybe a team that just somehow got two first
round picks for a cornerback, would they have a couple
of extra first rounders to give.
Speaker 8: I think the thing you have to ask is like
the only question you have to ask if you're Shanahan
and Lanches, can we win a Super Bowl with mac Jones?
Speaker 2: Can we get to a super Bowl? Because you've seen
Purty do it?
Speaker 8: Like might be my only but to your point with
all the pigs they need receivers back Brandon. I it
was a stupid contrac They shouldn't have paid him. He
wasn't worth that money anyways, but he hasn't been healthy
all year long. You had to get rid of multiple
defensive players last year in order to pay a BRONC
party U Fenga, who looked like a Pro Bowl safety
for you. He's in Denver now. I mean there are
a few pieces you need, so like, I don't actually
hate that idea.
Speaker 5: If like, if you if you've proven as an organization
that you've probably proven with Kyle Shanahan that you will
never need to pay a quarterback fifty plus million dollars
they just did, because you know, if you have a quarterback.
GMS used to always say, I want to overpay a quarterback.
I want to have that. I want to be in
that position to have to overpay somebody because that's mean
we found it. That means we found a quarterback. Well,
they've done it with two guys already. They've gone to
the Super Bowl. They even win. But they went to
the Super Bowl with Garoppolo and Party. Are any of
those guys. Neither one of those are top ten quarterback
in the NFL right now. They're winning with Mac Jones.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So like the scenarios out there, if I was them,
I'd be shopping right now because you could get many
first rounders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: I think you got one of, if not the best
play caller play designers in the NFL. I'm not saying
that you can have anybody out there, but you can
have a lot of.
Speaker 2: People out there play quarterback.
Speaker 5: And the whole scenario is so interesting with the whole
Trey Lance in the twenty twenty one that was the
same draft as Mac Jones, and they probably thought, man,
we should have probably picked somebody else besides, and it
could have been Mac Jones.
Speaker 3: A lot of people thought when they traded up, it
was for mac Jones, right, not Tree Lance.
Speaker 2: Tree Lance is busy all back up there for the
LA Chargers.
Speaker 5: So it's an interesting scenario. And okay, like that would
be an unprecedented situation where you trade away a franchise quarterback.
I got paid like a franchise guy and he's still young.
But I don't think they need.
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Want to do squirrel?
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Speaker 3: Proposals on the UH the Old Fill this weekend, Starkville
had one, Oxford had one. Lane Kiffin photo bombed one
of them. That's a picture though, will have forever, Lane,
will have forever? Well sure, yeah, when you're playing the
Citadel Yeah wait, multiple rambling, got Liken the games over, dude,
I'm good.
Speaker 2: My job's over. I can't get paid overtime. Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: I felt like I got a fight me you did
with the Christmas the Christmas Tree. Shout out to Anna
over there at Trifecta. I'm going over there after this
triffect to support therapy. She's a she's great.
Speaker 2: She's been working on me a long time. She's an
LSU when I.
Speaker 5: Was there, now they got that a great sports there
every place over there. They pretty much taken like treat
everybody like an athlete, like high profile athletes, even you,
even me. So I'm going over there straight from here.
I ain't even stopping to I don't know, good gas.
I think I might have to have to bring you
over there. You might have to thank you for picking
up the score off the ground. By the way, You're welcome.
Are you gonna have to hold my shoulders You're gonna
use that chord next hour and watch a little film
from the LSU Alabama game.
Speaker 2: That all some good stuff. That's what we're gonna do
when we come back. It's gonna be fun.
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Our three coming your way off the bench.