Speaker 1: So I wanted to start with the bagpipes or with
Speaker 1: amazing grace or something. But we're not eulogizing you, Nick,
Speaker 1: like you're not dying. You're just like going off to
Speaker 1: bigger and better things and leaving your friends.
Speaker 2: In the dust.
Speaker 1: But like, also, I don't know, maybe maybe we'll still
Speaker 1: give you some some bagpipes or something. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Nick Wiffer Podcast, the Nick finale show of the Inside
Speaker 1: the Paint podcast on Rockshot Flog. It is the end.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't. I don't know if that's that. That
Speaker 1: might not be. I might have to stamp a couple
Speaker 1: of warnings on that on that podcast. I don't have
Speaker 1: to check the exclusive.
Speaker 2: But I don't get it. What's what's weird about that?
Speaker 1: Well, even though I do, we don't have any PG
Speaker 1: thirteen square words like that. So I already get away
Speaker 1: a little bit with the with the noise or with
Speaker 1: the with the lack of that. But oh, just this
Speaker 1: is Inside the Paint and Nick Wiper your final show.
Speaker 1: I am in spirit, Nick Wipper.
Speaker 2: I am also in spirit Nick Wipper.
Speaker 3: I am the real Nick Wipper.
Speaker 1: So Nick, this is it. This is the finale show.
Speaker 1: This is show number four hundred and sixty one of
Speaker 1: itp you've been doing this show for a long time.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about you a little bit more later, but
Speaker 1: this is like you're you're opening your your opening statement
Speaker 1: to talk about how important you are and how this
Speaker 1: is the end.
Speaker 3: Go. Yeah, I'm seeking your vote on November fourth.
Speaker 4: I'm actually leaving, leaving this podcast to start my political career.
Speaker 4: Which if you've listened to this podcast, that must be
Speaker 4: a scary proposition to all Johnson County voters?
Speaker 1: Would it be less controversial? If what is less? What
Speaker 1: is more polarizing? American politics or the Inside the Paint Podcast.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're polarizing. I think it's dangerous.
Speaker 5: If you asked Wayne Kerr circa twenty twenty two would be.
Speaker 2: Close, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, there's plenty of people who happened to
Speaker 1: like all the time in their ears. There's also people who,
Speaker 1: you know, think that whenever we talk about how Bill
Speaker 1: self is the worst, that we're wrong. So I think
Speaker 1: we're at least a little polarizing. But you know, all
Speaker 1: the good figures in history were a little polarizing keyword little.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: Sure, So we're going to talk about everything that has
Speaker 1: happened since late April for Kansas basketball, and a rare
Speaker 1: twist that may just prove that Nick, the basketball gods
Speaker 1: want you to go out in style. There was a
Speaker 1: major piece of Kansas basketball news that dropped right before
Speaker 1: we started recording. Normally, it's like fifteen minutes after I
Speaker 1: hit post. So Kansas has a full roster, they're all
Speaker 1: set to be the preseason number one team in the Land,
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk all about everything that has
Speaker 1: happened Landon. You said that you were learning about some
Speaker 1: of this news like fifteen minutes ago, because no one
Speaker 1: want has paid attention to basketball since Yukon became the
Speaker 1: newest Bluest Blood. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that Shaquille More, formerly of Mississippi State,
Speaker 5: even existed before reading the notes. So this is I
Speaker 5: could have made that up informed listen of the week,
Speaker 5: Glad we do this podcast.
Speaker 1: I could have made that up. I could have wrote
Speaker 1: the Jayhawks Lanta commit from fart mcturdpants and Leanta will
Speaker 1: be like, huh, all right, I wonder if he's good
Speaker 1: at making threes. That's fine.
Speaker 2: I would have known as much about that as.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. One is a little bit more believable. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead, let's kick it off and talk about
Speaker 1: some news. This will be great. So just tonight in
Speaker 1: mid August, which it's it's a hot minute since I
Speaker 1: remember the Jayhawks landing a recruit in August. But that's
Speaker 1: what they did because spring slash summer. Bill self is
Speaker 1: a gangster. As Twitter likes to say, Kansas Lanta a
Speaker 1: score of guard David Koit, who averaged twenty one points
Speaker 1: and three assists last year at one of the worst
Speaker 1: teams in college basketball, Northern Illinois, who, as you remember,
Speaker 1: came into Allen Fieldhouse in early December and as a
Speaker 1: thirty point underdog only lost to Kansas by a humph
Speaker 1: and all of us except for Land and we're on
Speaker 1: here saying no, it's totally normal. They were probably just
Speaker 1: studying for finals or something like totally normal to play
Speaker 1: with your food a little bit in the form of
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois. But while Northern Illinois was not good, Cooit was.
Speaker 1: He is a five to eleven guard. He shot thirty
Speaker 1: five percent in the first two years of his career.
Speaker 1: He's shot almost five hundred career three point shot. So
Speaker 1: no secret what he likes to do. He will transfer
Speaker 1: into Kansas as a junior with two years of eligibility remaining.
Speaker 1: And my favorite tidbit about his game, he is an elite,
Speaker 1: high level eighty eight percent career free throw shooter. Kansas
Speaker 1: getting a just another guard. There's a lot of cooks
Speaker 1: in this kitchen and it just got a little bit
Speaker 1: more full with the acquisition of a twenty points per
Speaker 1: game scorer.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna hop on the train right now and say,
Speaker 5: start him over, Towan Harris. That's not controversial at all.
Speaker 2: Just do it.
Speaker 3: Wow Wow, Yeah, you really came out of the game
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna say he should start, but I was
Speaker 4: gonna remind you guys that one Harris is going to
Speaker 4: be the primary point guard and nothing Zeke Mayo or
Speaker 4: David Koite or any of these other guards do will
Speaker 4: matter because Dwan Harris is is your point score.
Speaker 3: He is an elite scorer.
Speaker 4: He's gonna score just as many points as David Coit
Speaker 4: this season, he's gonna average twenty one.
Speaker 1: So Northern Illinois was eleven and twenty last year.
Speaker 2: That's bad.
Speaker 1: They were just terrible. I'm trying to see if koit
Speaker 1: was their primary point.
Speaker 2: Guard at twenty one points right.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he did average almost twice as many assists
Speaker 1: as anybody else. So the highest three scorers for Northern
Speaker 1: Illinois were David and then they had a guy named
Speaker 1: Zerreke with a Z and their third leading scorer was Xavier,
Speaker 1: So they had a Z and an X and they
Speaker 1: also have a Y. They also have a Yannick Conan
Speaker 1: Ninenhauser on their team from Switzerland of all places, so
Speaker 1: they they may have sucked out loud on the court,
Speaker 1: but at least their names were were a lot cooler
Speaker 1: than Kansas's with with their Kevins and Hunters.
Speaker 4: David quite sounds like a name that's in an auto
Speaker 4: generated name and inca football twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah it does, it does. It feels like the quarterback
Speaker 1: that you you try to recruit and he gives the
Speaker 1: rose to Chris climb In instead of David Beatty and
Speaker 1: it makes sure we start the game. Yeah, that's completely correct.
Speaker 1: But with lance lepel whoever, the guy that that is
Speaker 1: bad at game management that Kansas has right now, don't
Speaker 1: really need to start there. But as Lanta's gonna be
Speaker 1: very sad when Jaylen Daniels does not leave Kansas to
Speaker 1: a playoff after Lance Leppel ops the punt on third down,
Speaker 1: d been opposing territory.
Speaker 5: Well after that, the Jaylen Daniels tweaks his ankle in
Speaker 5: the third snap of the second.
Speaker 1: Game riding a bicycle around campus and misses six to
Speaker 1: eight weeks. Soquoit uh, I mean, we don't. We none
Speaker 1: of us watched Northern Illinois basketball last year. But the stats,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't score twenty one points per game,
Speaker 1: even on the worst teams unless you have a degree
Speaker 1: of skill. And if he's a point guard, well, okay,
Speaker 1: so they have Dewan Harris, who's obviously going to be
Speaker 1: a fourth year starting point guard, and Zeke Mayo played
Speaker 1: the point at South Dakota State. Now you have Koit
Speaker 1: and you have a guy in in Rylan Griffin that
Speaker 1: that handled the ball a little bit for Alabama last year.
Speaker 1: You also have Rikey's passmore who's here that's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a combo guard. There's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: on this team that can handle the ball. My first
Speaker 1: question to you, guys, does Kansas simply have too many
Speaker 1: mouths to feed?
Speaker 5: This does feel a little bit like Bill Soelf might
Speaker 5: be himself to go back to his preferred two point
Speaker 5: system that he hasn't really employed in a while.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, let's just work backwards on that. Let's work
Speaker 1: backwards on this. Who's gonna play? Hunter, Dickinson's your five? Undeniably,
Speaker 1: AJ Store is gonna play. Whether he's the three, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be the primary three. He's also gonna play a
Speaker 1: little bit of the four. There's two.
Speaker 5: I think Storr probably slots into that Jalen Wilson Kevin
Speaker 5: McCuller role in plays that stretch four pretty commonly.
Speaker 2: He'll play the four, I think.
Speaker 1: And we still at this point, at least Twitter believes
Speaker 1: that kJ Adams is a safe bet for thirty minutes
Speaker 1: per game. I think moves like this one show that
Speaker 1: that just may not be the case.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, though, and you have Store,
Speaker 1: Adams and Dickinson playing the three, four, five a lot,
Speaker 1: that is a lot of names we just ran through
Speaker 1: to split two starting spots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I would I would think that back
Speaker 4: to your point about is this the twenty miles the feed,
Speaker 4: I would argue opposite. I mean, Yukon's blueprint has been
Speaker 4: depth the past two national titles they've won. I think
Speaker 4: that that that with the transfer portal, I think the
Speaker 4: depth is more important than ever. We've seen these Kansas
Speaker 4: teams flame out with injuries because the depth isn't there,
Speaker 4: and these unreliable freshmen aren't able to come in and contribute.
Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna I don't think the depth is
Speaker 4: gonna be an issue. I don't think there's too many
Speaker 4: miles the feet. I think that there's gonna be guys
Speaker 4: that step up on when they step up. Now you
Speaker 4: figure out how you feel in the top the five
Speaker 4: and the roster.
Speaker 3: I think, like you said, three of those spots are
Speaker 3: pretty clear.
Speaker 4: The rest of them, you know, there's there's gonna be
Speaker 4: some some some questions about, you know, maybe how those
Speaker 4: are filled in, But I do I don't think that's
Speaker 4: gonna be an issue.
Speaker 1: So I agree with what you said. If this was
Speaker 1: a video game and you can just add players AJ
Speaker 1: Stores a ninety overall, Ryland Griffins in eighty six overall,
Speaker 1: and like in Madden right your third string quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: eighty five overall, and it's great. You have depth and
Speaker 1: you're gonna win games, But that's a video game where
Speaker 1: there aren't actual personalities to handle. You've got a guy
Speaker 1: like Koit or guy like Mayo, who one night's gonna
Speaker 1: play four minutes. Because there's just a lot of good
Speaker 1: players on this team that I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: what they have in mind transferring here. I'm more so
Speaker 1: Land and I'm a little bit worried about the morale
Speaker 1: of the team should things not go flawlessly, guys being
Speaker 1: unhappy at the lack of minutes they're receiving. Am I
Speaker 1: Galaxy branding this? Or is that? Is that a reasonable
Speaker 1: thing to worry about?
Speaker 5: Uh, that's a little Galaxy brain. I mean that just
Speaker 5: totally depends on the dynamics of the team. I do
Speaker 5: think that is a little more of a general concern
Speaker 5: in the transfer portal era, where like now, obviously, you know,
Speaker 5: even in normal recruiting, you might just have teams that
Speaker 5: don't gel well. Like obviously that's a thing, and it
Speaker 5: happens all the time, and it happened all the time.
Speaker 2: But I do think you run the risk more so
Speaker 2: with this kind of recruiting.
Speaker 5: Where it's so plug and play all the time. Guys
Speaker 5: are transferring from big programs two big programs. Obviously, in
Speaker 5: this case it's a little much much smaller program to
Speaker 5: a huge program. But you have all these different guys
Speaker 5: from different places, I do think you run more of
Speaker 5: a risk of weird locker room stuff.
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 5: You know, I wouldn't jump to that conclusion until there's
Speaker 5: actual evidence of that.
Speaker 2: It's August, so there isn't any It'll be interesting.
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, I think the coaching staff stills to
Speaker 5: be honest with all of these guys. So I think
Speaker 5: David quite probably knows exactly what he's getting into. With
Speaker 5: the guard depth on this team, he probably has a
Speaker 5: real chance.
Speaker 2: I mean, he has good numbers.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I think he's gonna have a real chance to
Speaker 5: play real minutes on the team. Who I don't think
Speaker 5: he's gonna really compete to start. Maybe he does, though,
Speaker 5: who knows, But yeah, I don't know. Morale is such
Speaker 5: a tough thing to judge from our perspective because we
Speaker 5: are so distant from the team that we really that's
Speaker 5: a very tough thing to actually gauge.
Speaker 2: I don't think that would be a problem, but who knows.
Speaker 5: And again, in the portal era, it's probably more of
Speaker 5: a common complaint than it would be otherwise.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, that's more or less I'm concerned about. And
Speaker 1: like with a transfer portal, you're just buying lottery tickets, right,
Speaker 1: you know those those dollar scratchers of the gas station
Speaker 1: that one out of three times you win your money
Speaker 1: back and one out of five times you get way
Speaker 1: more than you thought you got aj storer And you
Speaker 1: figure your safety that's pretty high there, but it's not guaranteed.
Speaker 1: It's a lottery pick or it's a lottery ticket. Then
Speaker 1: you add a guy like Ryland Griffin, maybe a one
Speaker 1: and two chance that he booms like you think. And
Speaker 1: then you add Zeke Mayo, who got a one in
Speaker 1: three chance that he really booms because he's coming from
Speaker 1: a low major school like you. Eventually, adding up to
Speaker 1: these guys, Kansas has added five scholarship players in the
Speaker 1: transfer portal. Now where you feel pretty good about how hey,
Speaker 1: as long as you know two or three of these
Speaker 1: guys are legitimately good Big twelve players. Considering who they're returning,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a really nice team. And that's why
Speaker 1: I like this move so much, because David Quit is
Speaker 1: the insurance in case Zeke Mayo has a tougher time
Speaker 1: transitioning to the Power five level than you thought. Or
Speaker 1: maybe Ryland Griffin rolls his ankle and miss his five games,
Speaker 1: or you know, maybe there's just all sorts of things here.
Speaker 1: Maybe Shaquille Moore now playing the backup point, maybe that
Speaker 1: doesn't go as well. Somebody could get suspended, somebody could
Speaker 1: get injured, somebody could have a family emergency. You're adding
Speaker 1: depth to those roles. That's gonna make it a lot
Speaker 1: harder for the Florida fill out, which you saw last
Speaker 1: year resulted in Freakin' whoever Michael Jenkovic dribbling the ball
Speaker 1: up the court at the end of the game in
Speaker 1: Houston because they had like six scholarship players left. And
Speaker 1: the albatross that was the Cincinnati Sprint Center game. So
Speaker 1: you have all of those pieces. I think the most
Speaker 1: important ad that they've added this offseason is aj score
Speaker 1: who This was a while back, but there was kind
Speaker 1: of some rumblings he would stay in the NBA draft.
Speaker 1: The NBA draft is obviously long gone. These are old notes.
Speaker 1: He is officially in rolled at Kansas. That's the guy
Speaker 1: I think is your bet to finish second on the
Speaker 1: team after Dickinson and scoring any objections.
Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty solid pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Store is gonna be really good. That The full
Speaker 1: intention for Store per Shams, who's reporting on Kansas basketball,
Speaker 1: is the this is gonna be Store's only year at Kansas.
Speaker 1: He wants to be a pro player, which I guess
Speaker 1: you could say that about anyone. The goal is that
Speaker 1: everybody goes pro after this next season of college, and
Speaker 1: obviously it doesn't always happen, but Store's gonna post some
Speaker 1: really good numbers. And I think he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: better three point shooter than he was at Wisconsin because
Speaker 1: I think the volume goes down enough to take higher
Speaker 1: quality looks.
Speaker 5: Also, can I old man yells at clouds for like
Speaker 5: one second and just say that I actually, I really
Speaker 5: do like that the players have the freedom to do
Speaker 5: whatever they want. I think that's good, but I hate
Speaker 5: that this is how rosters are built now, Like just
Speaker 5: kind of.
Speaker 3: Sucks to me.
Speaker 1: You know how many returning scholarship players Kentucky has zero?
Speaker 2: Isn't it one? One?
Speaker 3: One? Right?
Speaker 1: It's zero? It is zero? That Yeah, it makes it
Speaker 1: very confusing, like it and we thought the funny part is.
Speaker 1: We thought whenever this was originally happening a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, like the foundation for this was taking place,
Speaker 1: we thought that it would really help the power programs, right.
Speaker 1: We thought that the Kansas is and Kentucky's would just
Speaker 1: have super teams every year, and that it would leave
Speaker 1: those middle to low major teams completely stripped. And I
Speaker 1: actually think the opposites happened. I think that the parody
Speaker 1: in college basketball has actually increased since the transfer portal,
Speaker 1: and it's wild.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that is I do think that's a genuinely
Speaker 5: interesting wrinkle to this is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5: I think logically speaking, yeah, you know, if you look
Speaker 5: at like European soccer or even like the NFL, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: the best teams over time get the best players because
Speaker 5: the best players at the best.
Speaker 2: Level want to win the most. And if you're good
Speaker 2: enough to play for.
Speaker 5: The best teams, the best teams want you and you
Speaker 5: can go play there and you can win. And I thought, yeah,
Speaker 5: I would have agreed. I thought that definitely is exactly
Speaker 5: what would have happened in college basketball. That you know,
Speaker 5: if you play for you know, Jackson State, Jackson State sucks,
Speaker 5: but you might be really good and if if Baylor
Speaker 5: wants to give you a shot, then you're gonna go
Speaker 5: do that and it's gonna happen every time. But I agree,
Speaker 5: I think it has actually flipped the other way, which
Speaker 5: is kind of weird, but it is interesting.
Speaker 3: But other words, I don't sorry, where do you Where
Speaker 3: do you go from here?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 4: Like eventually, like the return on investment is gonna be realized.
Speaker 4: These boosters aren't gonna be wanting to shell out two
Speaker 4: million dollars for a guy to come play basketball for
Speaker 4: one year for them to lose in sweet sixteen? Like
Speaker 4: at what point does this nil thing just become like
Speaker 4: not so flashy and stuff or.
Speaker 3: Is it always gonna be that way?
Speaker 4: It's just the whole model seems so unsustainable, Like I
Speaker 4: like roster assembly, Like people fans are already tired of
Speaker 4: how many people are in and out every year. There's
Speaker 4: no commitment. Do we get to a point where players
Speaker 4: are signing two year contracts, three year contracts to play
Speaker 4: with for a certain school for that long? Does a
Speaker 4: transfer portal eventually blow up like that? I don't think
Speaker 4: anyone knows where this is gonna go. And it's just
Speaker 4: that's why it makes it like a and and said frustrating,
Speaker 4: but also at the same time, it's like who even
Speaker 4: knows who's gonna be on this roster next year? Like
Speaker 4: in the past, like what's been so fun as to
Speaker 4: see you know, guys come through KU and a lot
Speaker 4: of them play and they go to Senior Night. This year,
Speaker 4: the big name hung in the rafters. They played at
Speaker 4: Kansas for four or five years, they're a contributor. And
Speaker 4: now it's like, yeah, you got a bunch of seniors
Speaker 4: speaking on Senior Knight who played at Loyola Marymount and
Speaker 4: h our Lady of the Lake who transferred to Kansas.
Speaker 4: So it's like, you know what gives at what point?
Speaker 1: Well, the assumption h yes, you're correct, they will bust
Speaker 1: eventually with the return on investment thing, if and only
Speaker 1: if the big donors grow tired of seeing their dollars
Speaker 1: invested in a program they're passionate about. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that is a thing. I don't know if Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson is underwhelming next year and the next the next
Speaker 1: time Kansas wants to throw two million dollars a year
Speaker 1: at a at a top coveted recruit. I don't know
Speaker 1: if those donors are gonna say, you know what, No,
Speaker 1: you haven't gotten our return on our investment. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it works like that. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna keep throwing money because they have it at their
Speaker 1: schools to try to get the biggest return on investment
Speaker 1: from a We got to keep trying it because this
Speaker 1: is what our coach says would work. And then the
Speaker 1: other thing is, I'm curious what happens in the future
Speaker 1: with situations like Kevin mccullor's right, he's paid money through
Speaker 1: NIL to play at Kansas. His doctors say you're cleared
Speaker 1: to play, and he says, no, I'm playing, I'm not
Speaker 1: comfortable playing, or I'm wanting to stay healthy for the
Speaker 1: NBA draft, Like what happens if there's a clashing there is.
Speaker 1: There gonna be clauses if you're signing contracts that you're
Speaker 1: going to forfeit your money, and if what you think
Speaker 1: your best interest is is different than what the team says,
Speaker 1: you're right. There's a lot of sticky situations coming down
Speaker 1: the road. But Landon, I don't know do you think
Speaker 1: that that are these big donors ever going to say,
Speaker 1: you know, the last couple haven't worked, so I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna throw any more money at my school to get
Speaker 1: this big name in the transfer portal. I don't think
Speaker 1: that we're ever gonna get there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't say that's likely by any stretch. But
Speaker 5: then again, I mean if you repeat last season again,
Speaker 5: which I don't think is likely either, But if you
Speaker 5: do have seasons like that continually happen, even at a
Speaker 5: program like Kansas, I think you might get to a
Speaker 5: point where people are like, the strategy at least has
Speaker 5: to be different. Maybe I'll throw money at the program still,
Speaker 5: but maybe not quite in the same way. If the
Speaker 5: level of winning does not reach national championships, which is
Speaker 5: at Kansas what donors are paying money for is to
Speaker 5: go to Final four.
Speaker 1: Well, and the coaches hate championships. The coaches absolutely hated.
Speaker 1: We've seen guys like Williams kisski a different sport but
Speaker 1: not a coincidence. Yeah, not a coincidence. They've all hung
Speaker 1: it up at the same time, and they've all said
Speaker 1: on record, I hate the nil. It makes it so
Speaker 1: much harder. These guys are already having to essentially be
Speaker 1: babysitters to their teams and making sure no one gets
Speaker 1: into bar fights and making sure everybody passes their classes.
Speaker 1: And then you throw in the fact that now they're
Speaker 1: going to I have to on top of their recruiting.
Speaker 1: They don't ever get an off season, and the pro
Speaker 1: you don't have to recruit college, you gotta recruit, and
Speaker 1: now recruiting is gathering money from like I it sounds
Speaker 1: like just a batal job. Yeah, sounds like a terrible job,
Speaker 1: speaking of a mess. Really sad news on this account
Speaker 1: here Almarco Jackson tore his pateller tendon and practice and
Speaker 1: will miss the entirety of the season with a twelve
Speaker 1: month recovery, which is longer than an ACL tear and
Speaker 1: longer than an Achilles tear, so a rare but devastating injury.
Speaker 1: Twitter is all over the place about what kind of
Speaker 1: impact this actually will make. One of my favorite Twitter follows,
Speaker 1: I believe it was Wayne Kerr. If not it was
Speaker 1: in a conversation with Wayne Kerr talked about how Almarco
Speaker 1: was a really important piece and that they need to
Speaker 1: be developing their players instead of just transfer portaling in
Speaker 1: guys every year. Because the analogy that that person used.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't you, Wayne, if it was Wayne, then
Speaker 1: it was brilliant. If it wasn't that, I'm sorry. I'm
Speaker 1: forgetting was We can't stop microwaving the food and expecting
Speaker 1: it to taste as good as if we were to
Speaker 1: actually cook it in the oven and let it go
Speaker 1: with the process of time. Same basic thing here. A
Speaker 1: lot of people had high expectations for Almarco Jackson coming
Speaker 1: into this season. I personally think they're going to be
Speaker 1: better with guys like a David Koit, who I think
Speaker 1: is going to be a better player than Almarco Jackson.
Speaker 1: But you know he's a McDonald's all American, right like, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think impact Why is
Speaker 1: losing al Marco for the season has on Kansas, Nick.
Speaker 3: I'm mixed.
Speaker 4: I think that you know, a lot of people I
Speaker 4: talked to you thought he was gonna have a breakout
Speaker 4: sophomore season.
Speaker 3: Bill self seemed like he was high on him in
Speaker 3: the beginning of the offseason. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Last season, I was not impressed with Almarco Jackson. I
Speaker 4: think the development would have taken a little bit longer.
Speaker 4: Disappointing for sure. I think he would have been a good,
Speaker 4: good development role like Lannam was talking about, really important
Speaker 4: to build these guys out. But I don't with the
Speaker 4: transfers you're bringing in, the firepower you're bringing in, the experience,
Speaker 4: the demonstrated offensive capability, I don't.
Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't know. I don't see it
Speaker 3: affecting my perspective that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 5: I think that I was interested to see what Jackson
Speaker 5: would develop into. Like I thought there was at least
Speaker 5: something there, even though he was pretty actively not good
Speaker 5: most of the time in his freshman year. I still
Speaker 5: saw just enough to be like, at least kind of
Speaker 5: curious to see what he might turn into. At the
Speaker 5: same time, I don't really think this impacts the team
Speaker 5: almost at all because what Nick said, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of proven college offensive ability in al Marco.
Speaker 2: Surely was not a scorer. Again.
Speaker 5: Would have liked to see him developed, and I imagine
Speaker 5: he will still be with the team maybe come the
Speaker 5: next season.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't actually think this impacts Kansas very
Speaker 5: much going into this year, but it is. It is
Speaker 5: pretty devastating for a player. You'd never like to see
Speaker 5: a guy miss a whole year due to injury. Always
Speaker 5: always a tough time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think al Marco Jackson is a lousy basketball player,
Speaker 1: especially for what Kansas wants to do. Like he can't
Speaker 1: shoot and he can't handle the ball, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta do something if you're a guard.
Speaker 1: So I don't think the impact it has is necessarily huge.
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's a very good player relative
Speaker 1: to his All America status. But I do feel bad
Speaker 1: for him personally because it takes a lot of guns.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about how in this day and
Speaker 1: age in college basketball already transfers everywhere. Marco Jackson has
Speaker 1: a disappointing freshman season, most disappointing. McDonald's All Americans cannot
Speaker 1: wait to get the hell out of the school that
Speaker 1: they were just spent the year underachieving at. And Almarco
Speaker 1: clearly had the conversation with Bill self and he said, no,
Speaker 1: I want to stick it out. I want to legitimately
Speaker 1: be here and get better. That takes a lot of character,
Speaker 1: and it blows that we won't get the opportunity this
Speaker 1: year to see what he could have become. Hopefully it's
Speaker 1: a situation where comes back as a red shirt sophomore
Speaker 1: in a year and is even better as a result.
Speaker 1: But just a disappointing situation. You certainly feel bad for
Speaker 1: what is just the nineteen year old kid that was
Speaker 1: hopefully getting ready to take a big step. So disappointing
Speaker 1: for him, But I don't think that the team is
Speaker 1: necessarily going to suffer. Two other pieces of personnel news here,
Speaker 1: Riley Kogle, who is Bill Self's first transfer ad couldn't
Speaker 1: get into Kansas because of a grades issue, at least
Speaker 1: that's what it was being talked about. So he's not
Speaker 1: coming to Kansas. Who is coming to Kansas is Mississippi
Speaker 1: State transfer guard Shaquille more This was the day after
Speaker 1: Almarco Jackson's injury was diagnosed. He's a fifth year senior
Speaker 1: point guard that averaged eight points and to assist shot
Speaker 1: thirty six percent on threes last year for the Bulldogs.
Speaker 1: So they got a lot of point guards, but at
Speaker 1: this point quite wasn't there and al Marco goes down,
Speaker 1: you needed a backup one, and there you go.
Speaker 2: Nick.
Speaker 5: Any feelings or thoughts or even like knowledge of Shaquille.
Speaker 4: Moore at all, I've heard He's been really good in practice.
Speaker 4: I think in Mississippi State. He was a good role player.
Speaker 3: I am excited about this transfer.
Speaker 4: I think that the experience there a guard who really
Speaker 4: know I think, who really will fit in bill self system. Well,
Speaker 4: I think he's a really high energy, dive after loose
Speaker 4: Ball's aggresive type player. So I just think it's hustle.
Speaker 4: I think we'll go a long way. I don't know
Speaker 4: much more about I know is he was a kind of.
Speaker 3: Okay three point shoot.
Speaker 4: I think it dropped off the past season it at
Speaker 4: Mississippi State, but I'm interested.
Speaker 3: I think I think it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Well, they have five guys on the roster that have
Speaker 1: played point guard in their college career. What I think
Speaker 1: that their recent roster act was and quit could have
Speaker 1: just been a, Hey, this guy's just sitting here, like
Speaker 1: I don't know how he'll fit, but we may as
Speaker 1: well snatch him up before a competitor does, and we'll
Speaker 1: see how it. We'll figure out later how to make
Speaker 1: it work. I don't know if they did that or
Speaker 1: if they just picked him up because oh, we need
Speaker 1: a point guard. But what I think that their roster
Speaker 1: construction says is they don't think Zeke Mayo's playing very
Speaker 1: much point, and they don't think that, and they don't
Speaker 1: think that Ricky's passmore is playing very much point. That
Speaker 1: leaves Dewan Harris, Shaquille Moore and David Koite to handle
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 2: And are planning on playing two points a.
Speaker 1: Lot, right, Yeah, either or any scenario that says maybe
Speaker 1: the plan is to dial to Dewe Harris usage back
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 5: As much as I would love for that to be true,
Speaker 5: which is simply will not be I think, Okay.
Speaker 1: So you think you think Juwan is playing thirty plus
Speaker 1: minutes per game, no question.
Speaker 5: I would certainly think that. I even bringing in a
Speaker 5: lot of guards. I think Bill self loves him from
Speaker 5: Dewan Harris.
Speaker 1: I hope that we don't get thirty two minutes a
Speaker 1: game of one and kJ again. But and with this roster,
Speaker 1: I would think something's gonna prevent that from happening. But
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first time that Bill self had a
Speaker 1: disappointing season, ran it back with the bulk of the starters,
Speaker 1: and things got a lot better each of the first
Speaker 1: two times that they tried that.
Speaker 5: Okay, Landon Harris, kJ Adams, Hunter Dickinson, who refuses to
Speaker 5: shoot threes, AJ Store, who shoots thirty percent on threes,
Speaker 5: and like Shaquille Moore because he dives for loose balls,
Speaker 5: while Rlentland Griffin, Zeke Mayo and David Coy said on
Speaker 5: the bench, that's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: Ryland Griffin made six threes in a game, but he
Speaker 1: doesn't hustle well. So Bill selves like, nope, ah, not
Speaker 1: going that game selfish going five for five from mid
Speaker 1: range every game. Boy, it's almost like we know who
Speaker 1: coaches this team. Damn it, Bill, so Landon, tell me
Speaker 1: about the roster. We have thirteen names. We thought we'd
Speaker 1: have twelve. We have thirteen, and it's a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've mentioned pretty much everybody already, but here we go.
Speaker 2: Five seniors. Is gonna be a long senior night that
Speaker 2: I won't watch.
Speaker 5: Probably, Dwan Harris, KG Adams, Zeke Mayo, Hunter Dickinson, and
Speaker 5: Shaquille Moore are your seniors. Four juniors in Zach Clements,
Speaker 5: AJ Stort, David Coy and Ryland Griffin, two sophomores Jamar
Speaker 5: McDowell and an injured Delmarco Jackson, and then the two
Speaker 5: freshmen in Rakeise Passmore and Flory Badunga thirteen names. Thirteenth
Speaker 5: spot next year will have to be vacated to complete
Speaker 5: the scholarship penalty from the ARP case. There are also
Speaker 5: six walk ons, which is gonna make not just I mean,
Speaker 5: how many senior speech you're gonna get?
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be ten? How many of the seniors?
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: I think two or three of them, Like it's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of names, and there's no more like will
Speaker 1: they come back for their super senior year?
Speaker 2: This is it.
Speaker 1: If you are a senior this year, you are done.
Speaker 1: If you are a junior this year, you have one
Speaker 1: year left after this one. Finally, and and the nick
Speaker 1: Era will will be remembered for a lot of things.
Speaker 1: But one of the things I will remember about the
Speaker 1: Land and Ryan nick Era on it P is how
Speaker 1: many hours we had to spend wondering if the Joe
Speaker 1: YESIFU it says junior, but he's played three years? What
Speaker 1: does that mean? Like, never have to do that again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was more than zero hours. It was.
Speaker 5: It was a weird amount of time to wonder and
Speaker 5: red shirt sophomore but I think he's been in college
Speaker 5: for seven years, is eligible for three more?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Joseph Yesifu is his so Joe. Yesifu's first
Speaker 1: year of college was in November of twenty nineteen, a
Speaker 1: full year before the Trump Biden election, and he will
Speaker 1: be playing basketball next year for Washington States. Unreal, how
Speaker 1: that works? Also, I think this is what four team,
Speaker 1: third team Drake, Kansas, Washington State whatever.
Speaker 5: Also, one of one of my favorite stats in college
Speaker 5: sports right now is that Kyle Whittingham, the head coach
Speaker 5: of Utah football, has been employed for twenty years at Utah,
Speaker 5: which is crazy, and his quarterback Cam Rising has been
Speaker 5: there for just over a third of his tenure.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's it's like Stet's and Bennett that. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: he cadd eventually.
Speaker 3: Get a real job.
Speaker 1: Did you guys know that Shaq is a rapper?
Speaker 2: I think I knew. He performed a late.
Speaker 1: Night Oh that's right. Yeah. Well he's doing a postgame
Speaker 1: Royals concert and he's standing next to Salvador Perez, who
Speaker 1: is a solid six ' five and sal looks like
Speaker 1: me when I meet an athlete.
Speaker 3: Right after they lost to the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, after they blew a late lead to the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Speaking of blown leads our basketball team that we root
Speaker 1: for they never do that.
Speaker 3: Bill Sol has his head up, as asked so much,
Speaker 3: but there.
Speaker 2: Is exciting news.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, just just because you asked, how
Speaker 1: about two more times?
Speaker 3: As head asked so much.
Speaker 1: But one thing, one thing that we will get to
Speaker 1: watch is Duke, who usually blows late leads when they
Speaker 1: play Kansas, not a Champions Classic year. As we transition
Speaker 1: into the scheduling portion of this, no better way to
Speaker 1: send you off than to talk about that non con schedule.
Speaker 1: Kansas and Duke will play a November Las Vegas neutral
Speaker 1: site game. I guess apparently they want to do home
Speaker 1: and homes, but you know, Duke's not quite ready to
Speaker 1: give Bill self that rose. They've never given one out
Speaker 1: before for that. So they're going to start in Vegas
Speaker 1: in a non Champions Classic season. Then they'll meet in
Speaker 1: the Champions Classic next year, and then I believe the
Speaker 1: plan is after that two years from this upcoming one,
Speaker 1: we will finally get a Kansas to come and home.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, I don't care about Kansas, Duke.
Speaker 1: I've seen that game before. It'll be good, it'll be entertaining.
Speaker 1: They're both good teams. I am happy that Kansas does
Speaker 1: not get a Thanksgiving game this year. That game against
Speaker 1: Duke is two days before, and then they'll play against
Speaker 1: some poor cupcake team two days after Thanksgiving. So no
Speaker 1: more letting your Thanksgiving bird eating, no more letting that
Speaker 1: be ruined by Bill self choking to Oh it was
Speaker 1: Tennessee most years, but it was also Dayton at one time.
Speaker 5: Can I also say that I really have active distaste
Speaker 5: for neutral site games in non con just takes all
Speaker 5: the juice out of the game.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you think it's a home it's in a
Speaker 1: way or it's like a neutral site tournament, like that's
Speaker 1: the only thing that time that it's Okay.
Speaker 5: Champions Classic is like the only real example of this.
Speaker 5: Maui and stuff like that is cool. But outside of
Speaker 5: like Maui and Battle for Atlantis, neutral site is pretty
Speaker 5: pretty rough.
Speaker 2: I feel.
Speaker 4: It's just not imagine your Champions Classic rotated between the
Speaker 4: four teams venues every year. So I thought about yeah,
Speaker 4: like Duke, so like, yeah, like Kentucky's playing Duke and
Speaker 4: allenfield House.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great idea. The problem with it is
Speaker 1: is they'd have to forfeit tickets at the neutral site
Speaker 1: arenas and they would absolutely never do that because it's
Speaker 1: all about dollars, but yes, that would be terrific. Like
Speaker 1: and to add on to Landon's point, how many good
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Feast week tournaments are there? Like ten years ago
Speaker 1: there were like four, so they were all good, and
Speaker 1: now so many of them are bad? Like I swear
Speaker 1: you turn on it's the cheese. It's invitational in front
Speaker 1: of sixty five people in a city that you'd never
Speaker 1: want to travel to, Like, how are all these places?
Speaker 1: And it's Drake playing George Washington for third place? It's like,
Speaker 1: how is this a tournament? How many good ones are there?
Speaker 3: The Thanksgiving tournaments are pretty lame?
Speaker 5: For most of them are I've Gottis and Maui are
Speaker 5: the only two that I can think of that are
Speaker 5: actually any good most of the time.
Speaker 2: There's probably one more that I'm forgetting.
Speaker 1: That's fine, But oh, what's the other one? Uh? What's
Speaker 1: the other one that has a pretty decent field? Or
Speaker 1: is that it is that it.
Speaker 5: H the College of Charleston. One occasionally has like one
Speaker 5: interesting team in it. They have one in like freaking
Speaker 5: North Dakota.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, they do.
Speaker 4: It's called the Carolina stetson.
Speaker 1: The Pentagon Challenge. Duke every year plays the Blue Devil
Speaker 1: Challenge where someone like Furman comes in there on Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: week to play against the fighting John Shires.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: They there's one in Hawaii that I will never understand
Speaker 1: how it's not bigger at Christmas time. I guess it's
Speaker 1: because Maui takes all the Maui Thanksgiving one gets it all.
Speaker 1: And then there's not one in Orlando that Kansas loses
Speaker 1: and gets third place.
Speaker 7: That one.
Speaker 5: That one is likeation or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the ESPN Events invitation. It was the.
Speaker 3: Atational a times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's rough, it's it's real rough.
Speaker 2: That one has a field.
Speaker 1: So there also is a neutral site game Land and
Speaker 1: your favorite kind of I believe it technically is a
Speaker 1: home game. So Kansas agreed to a home and home
Speaker 1: with North Carolina State. And before I scoffed at that,
Speaker 1: I remember that team was in the Final four last year,
Speaker 1: so I guess hooray. Uh, they're gonna play at the
Speaker 1: Team Mobile Center this year. That's the Sprint Center, Kansas City,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 6: Game.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk about that. My ask RCBS.
Speaker 1: That week will be filled with why do we play here?
Speaker 1: They always lose at the Tea Mobile Center, and then
Speaker 1: we're like, no, they win edny five percent of their games,
Speaker 1: please stop. A return game in Raleigh is coming next year,
Speaker 1: so uh no, DJ Burns. But you do get to
Speaker 1: watch Kansas play a Final four team.
Speaker 2: I guess that'll be fun.
Speaker 7: Boy.
Speaker 1: Imagine at the beginning of last season, if we were
Speaker 1: told North Carolina State and Kansas and a game between
Speaker 1: a team that was very mediocre and a team that
Speaker 1: made a Final four of the year before, we'd have
Speaker 1: been like, yay Bills making number five. Yeah, no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. Okay, Nick, why don't you go through the schedule.
Speaker 1: Since we don't get to go through your schedule in
Speaker 1: this podcast anymore, you can at least tell me all
Speaker 1: these games you're gonna miss.
Speaker 4: Yeah, their first game is late night in the FOG's kidding,
Speaker 4: that's not a.
Speaker 5: Game, it's taking over fog in that one.
Speaker 4: Late night in the fog is very boring. I've been
Speaker 4: to many of them.
Speaker 5: And the guy that if it was the guy that's
Speaker 5: sposed blunt puppy, who are you taking?
Speaker 7: Oh, if it was who versus the blood puppy.
Speaker 2: Shack Shaq rapping.
Speaker 7: Shack Shak's gonna win.
Speaker 1: Well, you could throw Nelly in there, who's scheduled to
Speaker 1: perform but just got thrown in jail for drugs the
Speaker 1: other day, So who knows that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 7: Well, good thing that late always has the best influences
Speaker 7: giving the performances.
Speaker 1: I apologize. I didn't know what exotic dancers were, said
Speaker 1: Jet long.
Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg was going to do.
Speaker 4: With the They were carrying those polls into the fieldhouse,
Speaker 4: and I thought they were gonna be a fire indust routine.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: That was the year they were like, that was their
Speaker 1: best team, wasn't it. Snoop Dogg willed that team to
Speaker 1: thirty and three or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was The money Gun the Money Game willed the title.
Speaker 4: And then Bill Selv walks in within Adidas chain in
Speaker 4: the video. I remember that, yeah, right after the whole thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah boy, yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, don't pay players anyways, I know school it's not
Speaker 4: paying players and a school that also, I'm an alumni
Speaker 4: of Washburn. That's an exhibition game they'll be playing. And
Speaker 4: then Kamala Harris is alumni. Howard is the next game November,
Speaker 4: you guys know, us is probably gonna be in the
Speaker 4: locker room and allenfield House telling them how great they played
Speaker 4: after they lose fifty one to one and seven.
Speaker 1: I forgot after Kansas just sat on Howard and that
Speaker 1: sixteen v one game and Kamala's.
Speaker 7: In the lock you played so great?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're like they don't they want to be
Speaker 1: anywhere else. It should have been a Southwest Airlines want
Speaker 1: to get Away commercial.
Speaker 7: A good thing.
Speaker 4: That's how people still feel about Kamala Harris. Anyways, Why.
Speaker 2: Who loses by war Howard or Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's I don't probably Howard.
Speaker 7: Not that North Carolina is on the schedule. Guys. Uh,
Speaker 7: they're coming out in Fieldhouse. What a game? Will Roy
Speaker 7: Williams be in attendance?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah it ooh yeah, and he'll I don't I predict
Speaker 1: he doesn't wear either team's colors. I predict he's just
Speaker 1: there and like a maybe sweatshirt, like a master's polo. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the Washburn game is our annual reminder that the
Speaker 1: best decision that they've ever ever made is only doing
Speaker 1: one exhibition game every year because nobody needs Washburn and
Speaker 1: Fort Hayes State the same year. The UNC game is cool.
Speaker 1: I don't know the last time UNC played here. I
Speaker 1: gotta imagine it's going to be the most expensive ticket
Speaker 1: for any KU game. I would guess since the last
Speaker 1: Border War game in twenty twelve. That's my guest, the
Speaker 1: last time they had a ticket that that highly coveted.
Speaker 1: North Carolina returns R. J. Davis for his record breaking
Speaker 1: thirteenth season of college basketball, and they are going to
Speaker 1: be a preseason top six to eight team. I think
Speaker 1: so well, that'll be a lot of fun. Kudos to
Speaker 1: Hubert Davis and Bill self for saying, let's schedule more
Speaker 1: of these. Let me just open real quick, Duke non
Speaker 1: conference schedule. Let's see who mister shire is opening up with.
Speaker 1: So Duke is going to open with. Okay, let's take
Speaker 1: a look. Nick, go ahead and continue. I'll find this out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So not a lot of other dimension here. Michigan
Speaker 4: State's and the Champions Classic. This move ven has moved
Speaker 4: back almost a whole month. They've got the Oakland Grizzlies,
Speaker 4: Cam Lipple's alumnus, so little hint at Cam Lipple there
Speaker 4: who will be a future host?
Speaker 1: Oh, I have the answer. By the way, Duke will
Speaker 1: be opening the season. I'm not sure. Oh this was
Speaker 1: last year. Never mind it says Dartmouth, and I was like, yep,
Speaker 1: but that was last year. I'll work to find this
Speaker 1: year's continue.
Speaker 4: Kansas has UNC Wilmington on the schedule. That's something Joe
Speaker 4: Biden's hometown, so that's real cool.
Speaker 7: I wonder if they'll be sick.
Speaker 3: Uh, this is my last show.
Speaker 7: I don't have nothing to lose at this point.
Speaker 4: They'll play, like you said Duke in the Vegas show Down,
Speaker 4: very exciting as Landa's favorite non conference game. And and
Speaker 4: and he'll go there and he'll play. He'll playing some
Speaker 4: casino games before the game.
Speaker 1: Uh is a huge gamown.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: Furman is another Vegas Challenge, showing on that. I'm more
Speaker 4: excited for the Furman game than the Duke game personally.
Speaker 7: And then they've.
Speaker 4: Got at Creighton in the Big twelve Biggies Challenge. Big
Speaker 4: missed opportunity here to not put Yukon on the schedule again,
Speaker 4: but the schedule makers will schedule make all that will
Speaker 4: still be a fun game in Omaha.
Speaker 1: Crighton I went to Omaha a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: and saw that arena and there's a big blue Jay
Speaker 1: on it. They played downtown and it is just three
Speaker 1: hours away from Lauren, so I predict you see a
Speaker 1: lot of Jayhawk fans there. We've been due for the
Speaker 1: return game of this since the COVID year, right they
Speaker 1: they never have gone to Creighton. I know, I everybody
Speaker 1: wanted Yukon. It'll probably happen eventually. I'm fine with Creton.
Speaker 1: They're a top twenty team in the preseason. Speaking of
Speaker 1: players who have been there for forever, did you know
Speaker 1: Ryan Kulkbrinner is still there?
Speaker 2: He's about to drop twenty five on him.
Speaker 1: I guess my favorite team has Hunter Dickinson on the
Speaker 1: payrolls lash roster, so I shouldn't make that joke.
Speaker 4: And Kay's going to Columbia this year. Will it be
Speaker 4: another twenty point blowout?
Speaker 1: Missouri hasn't won a basketball game since like like November,
Speaker 1: like twentieth, right, like they they didn't win anything. Run
Speaker 1: That was a very sad.
Speaker 3: Well, very sad sad loss.
Speaker 1: That's this is the game that's gonna be close. We've
Speaker 1: said forever that eventually Kansas and Missouri are going to
Speaker 1: play a close game in this series and they haven't yet.
Speaker 1: This feels like the seventy seven to seventy win, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not gonna commit to that.
Speaker 4: And then closing it out n C's State. No Dj Burns,
Speaker 4: I think he graduated, did he not?
Speaker 7: Or is he back?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think he went from me. He's not
Speaker 1: still in school. I know that.
Speaker 7: And then our favorite game on the schedule, Brown.
Speaker 1: Speaking of homage to the Blue Devils. Yes, DJ Burns
Speaker 1: plays for the Cleveland Cavaliers. Now as for Brown, boy,
Speaker 1: I tell you what Kansas is. Let's just hope that
Speaker 1: a lot of these games don't go to so many
Speaker 1: overtimes that they run out of players and have to
Speaker 1: finish with law trivia. Because with Howard, Brown and Furman
Speaker 1: all in the schedule, they're in a lot of trouble
Speaker 1: if it turns into something like that. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the schedule? I think it kind of sucks.
Speaker 5: Like no shot Oakland firebombs from out of existence like
Speaker 5: they did Kentucky.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen. I don't think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the that's the eighty two to seventy eight
Speaker 1: game that has us all being like, oh my, that
Speaker 1: was It's.
Speaker 5: Probably normal that Hudter Dickinson only had ten and ten
Speaker 5: against Oakland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is fine.
Speaker 1: How many losses there?
Speaker 3: One?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: Three? I'm learning my lessons.
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't think there's any chance it's three. Who
Speaker 1: are the three losses?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Creighton is the most likely?
Speaker 2: Probably Creighton. Michigan State.
Speaker 1: Oh, Michigan States, they're gonna They're gonna sit on Michigan State.
Speaker 1: Like Michigan State. You're telling me an unranked Michigan State.
Speaker 1: It's gonna beat one Kansas.
Speaker 2: All right, Brown, Then.
Speaker 1: Good choice that that is the right before Christmas Ivy
Speaker 1: League game that nobody ever wants to remember.
Speaker 2: That game is gonna be seventy five sixty five?
Speaker 1: Oh, right now, Landon, I'll play this on the show.
Speaker 1: I'll take an under one right now, hand up in
Speaker 1: the air. I'll put a hand on any holy book
Speaker 1: you want. It's going under one. Forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels really right. I agree.
Speaker 1: I got sixty six to forty nine or something like that.
Speaker 2: That's disgusting, awful.
Speaker 1: Duke schedule isn't out, by the way, but the most
Speaker 1: recent piece if I look up Duke schedule on Google News.
Speaker 1: The most recent piece of news is Duke adds Seattle
Speaker 1: University to non conference schedules, So it could be them,
Speaker 1: could be the Fighting Space needles. We don't know. The
Speaker 1: Big twelve schedule is going to be twenty games long,
Speaker 1: which Bill self said was gonna happen, and you didn't
Speaker 1: have to wait a week. He's right. Kansas gets home
Speaker 1: and homes with Central Florida. Yay, another trip to Orlando, Colorado,
Speaker 1: Welcome back Houston, Iowa State, and Case State. They did
Speaker 1: as good of a job to balance this as they
Speaker 1: could have, I guess, only home games against the two
Speaker 1: new Arizona teams and Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and West
Speaker 1: Virginia and only road games against Baylor BYU SINCTCU and Utah.
Speaker 1: So pretty much just an inverse of last year. And
Speaker 1: then they get more of the new teams at home
Speaker 1: than on the road. I was hoping they'd get a
Speaker 1: home and home with Arizona, but then if they had
Speaker 1: done that, people would complained about how the schedule was
Speaker 1: probably too lopsided. Right hence why they get two against
Speaker 1: is Yeah, this is confusing and hard and what with
Speaker 1: twenty games. You're probably playing non con games like December
Speaker 1: twenty sixth or something like that, or playing conference games
Speaker 1: in late December. Correct twenties a lot like twenties, a lot.
Speaker 1: You gotta get through ten weeks.
Speaker 2: That is a lot of games.
Speaker 5: I mean it'll, I mean it'll be a very fun schedule.
Speaker 5: But yeah, the round robin was just so clean and
Speaker 5: so perfect.
Speaker 3: Thanks realignment.
Speaker 1: Kansas also gets an exhibition game that is not yet official,
Speaker 1: but you know it will be soon against John cala
Speaker 1: Perry's Arkansas team where they will miss a bunch of
Speaker 1: threes and lose and people will say it's just like
Speaker 1: last year all over again. Look forward to the first
Speaker 1: post Nick show, where we have to deal with those ascarcbs.
Speaker 5: Johnny Furfy he did not get drafted until the second round.
Speaker 5: As we move into some NBA news here, which man
Speaker 5: Jayhawks in the NBA run it back one.
Speaker 2: More time for Nick, Furfey went thirty fifth to Indiana. Nick.
Speaker 2: Bad decision, right for Johnny, I don't.
Speaker 4: Think so, because he wasn't getting in al money because
Speaker 4: he's from Australia.
Speaker 3: So at least he made his bag so good for
Speaker 3: which is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: May I add, yes, yeah, you're you're all right. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the right basketball decision from a he should have
Speaker 1: stayed another year. His performance in the last month of
Speaker 1: the year told us that. But the nil thing and
Speaker 1: go make money and yeah, it's it all really doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Kansas is just fine without Furfy, and Furfey is just
Speaker 1: fine without Kansas. But like five six years ago, he
Speaker 1: probably comes back.
Speaker 5: Kevin mccullor, who I don't think would have come back
Speaker 5: for ten billion dollars based on how the last month
Speaker 5: of the year went, went fifty six to the Suns
Speaker 5: and immediately was traded to the Knicks.
Speaker 2: So much for all the.
Speaker 5: Lottery coopla throughout the season for both those guys, really
Speaker 5: as well. Jalen Wilson was named m VP of the
Speaker 5: Summer League. I don't think I watched maybe one total
Speaker 5: hour of the Summer League, which is more than I'd
Speaker 5: watched in the last.
Speaker 2: Like two years.
Speaker 3: I watched a minute of it.
Speaker 2: I watched some tiny, tiny bit.
Speaker 1: So this is the new Kevin mccullor drop for anybody
Speaker 1: who watches SpongeBob as a kid. Because at least the
Speaker 1: legs feeling fine now and Sabee mckaylik, who won an
Speaker 1: NBA championship with the Boston Celtics, So he is the
Speaker 1: eighth bill Self player to do so. Combined. You to
Speaker 1: name the other seven that have won an NBA championship.
Speaker 5: Mario Chalmers, Christian Brown and.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's that's four. Keep going three laughing.
Speaker 3: Let's thinks, what did.
Speaker 1: You say you got? Two thousand and six, twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Those are the years.
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 3: Twenty was the Lakers, right?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 3: Is that the heat?
Speaker 2: Did Brandon Rush win one?
Speaker 1: Brandon Rush one with the fifteen team? Yep? Yeah, nicks
Speaker 1: on to something with somebody won it in twenty with
Speaker 1: the Lakers?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh Markith yep?
Speaker 1: Correct? And then the and then the other one was six,
Speaker 1: which is this person is currently employed by the University
Speaker 1: of Kansas.
Speaker 2: Did Danny Manning win a title?
Speaker 5: Not Danny Manning, I mean, I mean not yeah, definitely
Speaker 5: not Danny Manning. The other guy that was really good,
Speaker 5: Wayne Simon, was Wayne Simon?
Speaker 1: Correct? Correct? Look at you guys, you guys clean that up.
Speaker 1: Very nice job. And honestly, that list is kind of underwhelming,
Speaker 1: like they're that none of those guys. You have a
Speaker 1: few that were really really good, but but none of
Speaker 1: those guys were the guys that you expected to be
Speaker 1: super NBA players that willed their team to uh titles.
Speaker 1: I think Wiggans Wiggins.
Speaker 2: Did, but then he won one in a way that.
Speaker 1: Was not that but he was really really good for that.
Speaker 1: Like the war was the best, Yeah he was. He
Speaker 1: was one. Uh Steph Curry going absolutely crazy away from
Speaker 1: being finals MVP that year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was excellent in those finals, in the playoffs
Speaker 5: in generally was really good. But yeah, like Christian Brown,
Speaker 5: uh was fine, and he played solid minutes for the Nuggets.
Speaker 1: But yep, yep, circus font is now a regular thing
Speaker 1: on the primary home uniforms. Nick ascally had that scoop
Speaker 1: for all of us. Trajan is dead. Nick rejoices because
Speaker 1: Trajan is. Yeah, it's about time. This is This is
Speaker 1: a good case of something that is rare in sports.
Speaker 1: The university team. Yeah, well I was gonna say, h yes, well,
Speaker 1: teams do you normally change things? Now they listen to
Speaker 1: their fans, which is great, and now talk about the
Speaker 1: change that nobody asked for.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ouch, Allen Fieldhouse's capacity is shrinking one thousand seats
Speaker 1: to fifteen thousand, three hundred because, as I like to say,
Speaker 1: the uh chairback section on the west wall, that is
Speaker 1: the if the game starts at seven, you get there
Speaker 1: at seven twenty three and you leave at eight point fifteen,
Speaker 1: that section we need more chairbacks. There's also a new scoreboard,
Speaker 1: which kind of looks weird and wi fi yay. They
Speaker 1: asked Travis Goff if they were gonna get air conditioner
Speaker 1: and he said, it's complicated. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: hell that means.
Speaker 3: It seems is they can't question. They can't put an
Speaker 3: AC unit in that building.
Speaker 1: But but why.
Speaker 4: Because of the current system, there's no They have to
Speaker 4: completely take out sections of the arena to fit a
Speaker 4: HVAC unit in there.
Speaker 1: So how about we just put a really big fan
Speaker 1: right by the basket on both ends and just crank
Speaker 1: that thing. Our hurricane category three status And he's that.
Speaker 4: Way everybody he has experience, though, yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I'm the only one that's cozy.
Speaker 3: I think the more pressing issues. They're reducing seats and
Speaker 3: people are still squished like sardines. But in one seat
Speaker 3: now in.
Speaker 4: Field House is two seats in oldfield House equal one
Speaker 4: in the modern era.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, Nick's right, Like I I weigh one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty I weigh one hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 1: I am in about the five percentile and adult men weight,
Speaker 1: and I fit absolutely perfectly. My eighteen inch butt is
Speaker 1: exactly the width of one seat at Allen Field House,
Speaker 1: and that is just not the case for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. So you're usually that if you got one
Speaker 1: guy who's above average wayt size in the middle of
Speaker 1: your row, everyone's gonna be the poor guy in seat
Speaker 1: one is in the aisle, and it yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's very nineteen fifties. What can you say. Also, there
Speaker 1: was the men's alumni team who did their original teams,
Speaker 1: at least most of them, some homage by choking away
Speaker 1: a double digit lead against Colorado and losing in the
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen for the second year in a row. Didrich
Speaker 1: Glowsan kept launching threes and none of them went in
Speaker 1: the basket and Kansas ultimately did not get to the
Speaker 1: elam ending they lost. I know, that's shocking. They were
Speaker 1: a favorite in that game.
Speaker 2: Never happened in turnaments, not.
Speaker 1: Ever that's your Kansas basketball news. Let's blow the air
Speaker 1: horn and then we're gonna talk about everybody else and
Speaker 1: do one more round of ASCARCB for Nick Big twelve
Speaker 1: slash other news. Well, this is just kind of a
Speaker 1: hodgepodge of everything else that has happened. So whoever wants
Speaker 1: to read some interesting tidbits that maybe you didn't know,
Speaker 1: go for it.
Speaker 5: Uh Yukon in Texas will play a home and home
Speaker 5: in the most lopsided coaching matchup in the history of sports.
Speaker 2: That's a really funny sentence. Dan early to not go
Speaker 2: to the Lakers.
Speaker 4: Which was Kansas State's non conference schedule, is terrible, but
Speaker 4: at least they scored a two million dollars nil bag
Speaker 4: commit from a nobody from Illinois Coleman Hawkins.
Speaker 1: All right, here's one thing to say about Dan Hurley.
Speaker 1: He's a total boss. What an awesome, awesome coach to say,
Speaker 1: I don't care who offers me a job. I'm staying
Speaker 1: here and we're making this program cool. He is the
Speaker 1: guy that you would love to have coaching your team.
Speaker 1: Albeit guy who's pretty pretty weird, but you kind of
Speaker 1: have to be. Also, I want to read case States
Speaker 1: non conference schedule, guys, because it's not just Howard and
Speaker 1: Brown thirteen times copied and pasted. But oh my, is
Speaker 1: it bad? Is it a good sign asking for a
Speaker 1: friend when Saint John's is the toughest game on your schedule.
Speaker 2: If you like to win? Yeah, here are.
Speaker 1: Kansas State's thirteen non conference games. It might be eleven.
Speaker 1: I don't know. New Orleans, Cleveland State, LSU, Mississippi Valley State,
Speaker 1: George Washington, Liberty TBD. That actually may be the toughest
Speaker 1: opponent here. They're playing in something called the Paradise Jam
Speaker 1: University of ap B. Don't know what that is. Arkansas Pine, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's that awful abomination of a program. They always
Speaker 1: get big jaw schools Saint John's, Drake and Wichita State.
Speaker 1: Jerome Tang looked at that complete part of a schedule
Speaker 1: and said, I think it'll work.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you're k State it does.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Colemen Hawkins News, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: Two million dollar bag rewind an hour ago when you
Speaker 1: were talking about will people ever get tired of throwing
Speaker 1: money at schools?
Speaker 2: No, MJ.
Speaker 5: Rice needs someone to throw a bag at him. He
Speaker 5: transferred out to the NC State after the portal close
Speaker 5: and it is just kind.
Speaker 2: Of out there.
Speaker 1: Now needs a waiver to play now, I think is
Speaker 1: how that works.
Speaker 4: Houston is probably Kansas's biggest competitor for the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five Big Twelve Crown. They returned all their primary pieces
Speaker 4: from last year, Sands Jamal shed. They were placed in
Speaker 4: with Oklahoma point guard and Mulo's juz on us In.
Speaker 4: Like any sane college basketball players, could not wait to
Speaker 4: get away from Porter Moser.
Speaker 1: Eternal loser. Porter Moser. There, sir, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: watch Porter go eight and ten in the SEC and
Speaker 1: you're gonna see him with his ou pullover talking to
Speaker 1: Ree Davis ten minutes before the brackets are announced, and
Speaker 1: the thing on the bottom the bar and the bottom
Speaker 1: just reads should Oklahoma get in? Question mark, and it'll
Speaker 1: be Porter pleating his case. You know, we beat Arkansas
Speaker 1: Pine Bluff by fifty, and we did win five league
Speaker 1: games against teams that are gonna make it, so I
Speaker 1: think we should be in and then they won't, because
Speaker 1: that's what happens every year with Porter Moser. Stupid ass
Speaker 1: Oklahoma teams get away from the Big twelve landon talk
Speaker 1: about Baylor.
Speaker 2: I will Baylor.
Speaker 5: They got duke point guard transfer Jeremy Roach and has
Speaker 5: top five recruit in wing vj Edgecombe coming in.
Speaker 2: They'll fit right in.
Speaker 5: With returning shooters to do what Baylor always does, which
Speaker 5: is shoot a lot of threes and make most of them.
Speaker 5: Arizona has Caleb Love coming back to go seven for
Speaker 5: twenty six.
Speaker 2: In that game at Allen Fieldhouse.
Speaker 5: As for Iowa State, they basically have their entire team back,
Speaker 5: plus a transfer ad in Charlotte center DeShawn Jackson, but
Speaker 5: not that one.
Speaker 4: Kansas, Alamima, and Yukon are probably the top three teams
Speaker 4: in some order in the preseason pool.
Speaker 7: Do you guys think Kansas number one?
Speaker 2: Maybe? Sure, but that has not exactly served them well lately.
Speaker 1: I think they have the best team, I don't know if,
Speaker 1: and I think they will be won. Yukon gets a
Speaker 1: big boost by keeping their coach, because we all know
Speaker 1: that when a coach leaves, the roster usually just heads
Speaker 1: for the door. I think that Houston is a little overrated.
Speaker 1: I think that they kind of played above their head
Speaker 1: last year and now they don't have their best player back.
Speaker 1: And I think Iowa State is a little overrated as well,
Speaker 1: but I think teams like North Carolina and Purdue are
Speaker 1: a little underrated. So we'll see. In ESPN's too early
Speaker 1: Top twenty five, which was just updated a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago, the Big twelve has five of the top
Speaker 1: nine teams. That is Kansas at won, Houston at four,
Speaker 1: Baylor at six, Iowa State at seven, and Arizona at
Speaker 1: nine and then Texas Tech Kansas State, all teams that
Speaker 1: are right in that will they won't they make the
Speaker 1: Top twenty five. It should be another year where the
Speaker 1: tenth best team in the Big YEP. They really are.
Speaker 2: Also Gonzaga's five.
Speaker 5: And Ryan has many many foul things to say about them,
Speaker 5: which is, you know.
Speaker 3: I.
Speaker 1: Screw them and Screwbill for losing that stupid team. Of
Speaker 1: all the teams that this podcast had to tug. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of f words in there. Also, Creighton
Speaker 1: they projected the top fifteen team because, as we said earlier,
Speaker 1: eternal nerd Ryan Kalchburner is still there. He is the
Speaker 1: tallest nerd in the world and he is here to
Speaker 1: dunk on Hunter Dickinson.
Speaker 4: Nick John keeps stealing recruits from Bill South with the
Speaker 4: most recent one being twenty twenty five point guard Darius A.
Speaker 3: Kuff.
Speaker 4: The Razorback Project is a top fifteen team with DJ Wagner,
Speaker 4: Carter Knox in Trevon Brazil, all following Hall Pari from
Speaker 4: Lexington to Fayetteville, plus a commitment from Florida Atlantic stud
Speaker 4: Joe Nel Davis in his eighteen points per game.
Speaker 1: That's probably the biggest out of the portal. I know
Speaker 1: that you could argue guys like AJ Store. I'd be
Speaker 1: fine with that. Janelle Davis is a absolute monster and
Speaker 1: John Cala Perry wasted no time scooping him up. Arkansas
Speaker 1: is going to win the SEC this year. Tell me
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: Kentucky's gonna have something to say about it, but probably
Speaker 5: Arkansas is a pretty good bet. Problem They're the most talented,
Speaker 5: but talent has not won anything for Kentucky lately. We'll
Speaker 5: see what it does this year for them. With Mark
Speaker 5: Pope as they might have a fringy top twenty five team.
Speaker 5: They got Jackson Robinson to follow him from BYU. He
Speaker 5: also added West Virginia's Kirk Cresa. Praise the Lord that
Speaker 5: Kirkresa is allowed to play for a real program and
Speaker 5: not West Virginia, Oklahoma's o tega Oway in the portal
Speaker 5: as well, going to Kentucky. Kentucky zero returning scholarship players
Speaker 5: from last year.
Speaker 1: That's insane college sports. I predict it doesn't go well
Speaker 1: for Kentucky early. I predict they lose to Duke. I
Speaker 1: predict they lose to a random team at home. Not
Speaker 1: like Evansville bad, but you know they they're kind of
Speaker 1: used to that. And I predict that that worget about
Speaker 1: eight games into the Mark Pope era, and fans and
Speaker 1: on rough rafters are already saying that that was the
Speaker 1: worst tire ever.
Speaker 5: I think that's a very good prediction. I think there's
Speaker 5: a lot of validity to that problem.
Speaker 1: But you know who won't be fine as as Dick
Speaker 1: has posted a very funny image in the group chat
Speaker 1: where Mike Woodson, who really does look like mister potato Head,
Speaker 1: and his Indiana team is somehow ranked in the top
Speaker 1: twenty of ESPN's top twenty five preseason poll. Why would
Speaker 1: you rank Mike Woodson.
Speaker 2: So you get to see missus potato Head.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a shocked woman that just found out
Speaker 1: that anybody trusts Mike Woodson with anything. That team is
Speaker 1: starting four and six and we all know it. Oh
Speaker 1: that's it. I don't really know what to do when
Speaker 1: we reach the end of the notes, but okay, final
Speaker 1: aver at one.
Speaker 2: Last ask RCB for Nick.
Speaker 1: One last, ask RCB for Nick.
Speaker 3: Okay, which what's the first question?
Speaker 1: Rodney Terry?
Speaker 3: What color is socks?
Speaker 6: On?
Speaker 1: Today? I wish somebody asked that there are a few
Speaker 1: about you, Nick Whole? Actually yes, at Rockshock AJ twelve, Nick,
Speaker 1: what color of pants do you think Rodney Terry is
Speaker 1: going to wear this year?
Speaker 2: Orange pants? That's awesome. I would love to see him
Speaker 2: where burn orange pants.
Speaker 1: Because he is burnt as the burnt pun soiled his
Speaker 1: pants pun something I don't know, but Texas was being mocked.
Speaker 1: Indiana and Texas were back to back in that top
Speaker 1: twenty five poll, and I'm thinking, okay, wow, it's almost
Speaker 1: like nobody knows what's going to happen. We've watched this
Speaker 1: many times at Matt Underscore Gallantine. My best memory of
Speaker 1: Nick was him yelling about how awful Sylvio Dessa was
Speaker 1: when he came back from his long suspension. I remember
Speaker 1: that we were so excited to have Silvio back and
Speaker 1: that was the team that that was the COVID year team.
Speaker 1: And oh my gosh, was he bad, very bad? And
Speaker 1: then he hit somebody with a chair or no, he didn't,
Speaker 1: He just acted like he was going to.
Speaker 2: But he did hit a man.
Speaker 1: He did hit a man. He hit an autistic man
Speaker 1: and blinded him. Didn't he didn't that happen?
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 1: Oh that's just not great. Some some some kid told
Speaker 1: him that he sucked at basketball, so he did the
Speaker 1: only logical thing. He threw a punch and blinded the man.
Speaker 2: Yep, normal stuff.
Speaker 1: Uh, Matt adds, best of luck to you. Nick h
Speaker 1: Nick is gonna get his flowers on this show at
Speaker 1: Ryan Underscore, Landreth Nick has liked women with tattoos this
Speaker 1: whole time, hasn't he.
Speaker 3: I'm impartial?
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, that doesn't step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: That that's yes? So uh fun fact uh And and
Speaker 1: this kind of doubles into a question Landon Nick and
Speaker 1: I every year playing a charity softball tournament that I organize,
Speaker 1: these two have played in just about every single year
Speaker 1: that you can play in this and they each wanted
Speaker 1: to play a second game, but not the whole game.
Speaker 1: So they split a spot and out goes Landon Wiper,
Speaker 1: switching the same shirt back and forth between at bats,
Speaker 1: and one of the factoids was Landon Whiebert loves tattoos
Speaker 1: on women some days and on others hates them. And
Speaker 1: Landon made the tailors everyone.
Speaker 2: Hand mind blowingly confused.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what you and you, the three of us
Speaker 1: all got it, which is all that matters. Fair enough,
Speaker 1: But yes, Landon is team is Team Tats and Nick, well,
Speaker 1: we we've gotten Yeah, we got one step in the
Speaker 1: right direction. This is a good one here at Matt
Speaker 1: Underscore Gallantine. What summer Olympic sport would you have the
Speaker 1: best shot of doing well in?
Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, table tennis?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's yeah, that's probably that's a good answer.
Speaker 3: But the Chinese are good at table tennis. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: not still going to be good.
Speaker 1: Looking at a list of all the sports, trying to
Speaker 1: see if there's anything here that I could remotely be
Speaker 1: okay at, Like, best chance, I'm pretty good at merchery
Speaker 1: on the Wii. I don't know if that would translate.
Speaker 2: I played one season of reck soccer, so maybe they were.
Speaker 1: The green team back in the day or the blue team.
Speaker 1: We were blue team, all right, and that was this year.
Speaker 1: This year was my first year of reck soccer ever. Wait,
Speaker 1: you played I did play. Wow. I didn't know adult
Speaker 1: land and played rec league. I was picturing you as
Speaker 1: like a five year old.
Speaker 2: Oh no, my dad would never up.
Speaker 1: In Michigan where it's mid July and you're all wearing scarves.
Speaker 5: I just was in Michigan and it was a beautiful
Speaker 5: seventy degrees with a cool lake breeze in my hometown.
Speaker 2: It was wonderful.
Speaker 1: Absolutely freaking sucks. It's mid August and it's already cold.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the list. How would the three of
Speaker 1: us do in rowing?
Speaker 2: Really bad?
Speaker 1: Would we do better or worse? Rowing? Or synchronized diving?
Speaker 1: There's also the three on three basketball that the United
Speaker 1: States sucks at. Maybe we can help them?
Speaker 2: Oh that that sport sucks.
Speaker 4: Anything would be able lead a high school girls basketball
Speaker 4: team and three three basketball?
Speaker 1: Oh man, does it help us or hurt us if
Speaker 1: you take players off, if it becomes five instead of
Speaker 1: three or vice versa. I think it hurts us. I
Speaker 1: actually think it might help us because they have depth.
Speaker 3: No question.
Speaker 1: Uh, what would be our worst Olympic sports I think
Speaker 1: it's probably gymnastics.
Speaker 2: Gotta be right hard I would be.
Speaker 1: Of all of these, I think that and and granted
Speaker 1: this is this is just because there by default has
Speaker 1: to be an answer. I think I would say golf
Speaker 1: is the sport I would be the best at. Next
Speaker 1: is tennis, undoubtedly, but and Landon would probably be soccer. Really,
Speaker 1: you don't think you don't think golf that like, golf
Speaker 1: is the only one of these that, like you could
Speaker 1: fall backwards into a decent shot.
Speaker 3: You think you'd be good at golf. Golf is like
Speaker 3: the hardest sport.
Speaker 1: No, I do not think I'd be good at golf.
Speaker 1: I think I'd be better at golf than water polo, volleyball,
Speaker 1: marathon swimming, canoeing, bad mitts and an archery.
Speaker 3: What about what about handball?
Speaker 1: I would be we would be so bad at handball
Speaker 1: Golf at least it is not even a sport. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I put bowling in the Olympics. I can bowl really well,
Speaker 1: but until it's there, you got it, You.
Speaker 3: Gotta bowling is definitely not a sport.
Speaker 1: Would you rather be an Olympic surfer? Like like you
Speaker 1: right now in the Olympics. You don't like you to
Speaker 1: get good or anything. An Olympic surfer or an Olympic synchronized.
Speaker 3: Diver surfer sick.
Speaker 1: But that's a big ocean and the water is probably.
Speaker 2: Cold, and there's sharks out there.
Speaker 1: Are you a shark phobic?
Speaker 2: Yeah kind of.
Speaker 5: But I really want a cage dive one day, so
Speaker 5: I don't Did you know those two thoughts in my head?
Speaker 1: Did you know that more people die every year of
Speaker 1: coconuts falling on their head than they do in shark attacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a coconut doesn't have nearly the amount of teeth.
Speaker 1: No, sharks are nice guys. Just don't like, go kick
Speaker 1: one and you'll be fine, or don't bleed in front
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean those are good. Those are good pieces
Speaker 5: of advice. Like I mean, most sharks won't really do
Speaker 5: anything to you. It's mostly just like bull sharks and
Speaker 5: the occasional great white that gets a little feisty.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, don't go. Don't go, you know, fart on
Speaker 1: a tiger shark or anything. But you're just like hanging
Speaker 1: out in a sand reef and you see a little fin.
Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere or they don't want there. You
Speaker 1: remember landon they're scared of us as much as we're
Speaker 1: scared of them.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's that's true. That has to be true.
Speaker 1: Of course, every animal's biggest predator is the human.
Speaker 2: Which is true. But I'm not going for that so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's sharks. Sharks are I wouldn't mess with one.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm scared of one. But I
Speaker 1: did ride that. My dad did make me ride the
Speaker 1: Jaws ride at Universal Studios when I was like eight
Speaker 1: years old, and I thought I was going to be
Speaker 1: a lifetime shark of foe at that point. Got over
Speaker 1: it eventually. At Casey Sports Kingdom one which hatred is
Speaker 1: stronger Nick on women with tattoos or Ryan with Matt
Speaker 1: katre quatrero oh boy, that's that's tough. Yeah. The Royals are.
Speaker 1: The Royals have a Manager of the Year front runner
Speaker 1: who actually is a total clown, which is quite unfortunate.
Speaker 7: What's wrong with them?
Speaker 1: He's bad, He's bad at his job. He also that's
Speaker 1: because Bobby Wit exists, sir, Like I could be Bobby
Speaker 1: WIT's manager and win a few games.
Speaker 7: He's falling asleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time the umpires call somebody out on a
Speaker 1: horrible call. He can't be bothered to get out there.
Speaker 1: I like whenever people would go out and stomp there
Speaker 1: and beck. In my day, we would stop our feet
Speaker 1: into the ground and throw our hats and give them
Speaker 1: a piece of our minds.
Speaker 2: This is very interesting.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's eleven o'clock and we're still here. Pause
Speaker 1: is what that is at Texas Tech. Sean, do you
Speaker 1: mean in season eleven premiere? Are you wrapping up last season?
Speaker 1: Are you saying this is your last season doing the pod? No,
Speaker 1: this is the Nick finale. This is the season eleven finale.
Speaker 1: I usually try to make the first episode of each
Speaker 1: season the late night recap, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: we're gonna get there at this point, but this is
Speaker 1: Nick's finale at Preston Skirsik. Who will be the sleeper
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve basketball next year? And I'll add
Speaker 1: one in, who's the sleeper in Big twelve football?
Speaker 2: Sleeper in Big twelve football? Is West Virginia State? Even
Speaker 2: set a little?
Speaker 1: Iowa State is the answer? I thing, And I know
Speaker 1: that Case State was picked to finish second, but they're
Speaker 1: gonna win the league.
Speaker 5: You Okay, State has a good chance to do so
Speaker 5: basketball don't know, no idea.
Speaker 2: It's August.
Speaker 1: Maybe Colorado being eleven despite having a potential lightning Rod
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Who knows how that's gonna work.
Speaker 5: Colorado has arguably the two best players in the conference
Speaker 5: and will go like maybe five hundred.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are, Yeah, they're they're. Uh. It will crash
Speaker 1: at some point. Big twelve basketball sleeper, it's probably. I
Speaker 1: don't want to give too much love to kse State,
Speaker 1: but Case State's a quiet top twenty five team for
Speaker 1: my money. And I say TCU every year and they
Speaker 1: never do anything. But TCU should be okay everybody but
Speaker 1: Texas because they're not here anymore and because they're Texas
Speaker 1: at cool underscorehand on to score Lucas says Nick. It's
Speaker 1: been real. Here's to you maybe advancing to second base someday.
Speaker 1: Cheers to you. I like that response at Elliott Russon
Speaker 1: a Nick, we will miss you. It was great to
Speaker 1: have you on the show and hope that you will
Speaker 1: come back from time to time to all of you.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite moment together outside of recording this show?
Speaker 1: Man and you two were at my wedding, Nick DJ
Speaker 1: my wedding that was a really good time. All the
Speaker 1: charity softball games have been fun. Uh let's let's see
Speaker 1: we we watched Uh what else have we we?
Speaker 6: You?
Speaker 4: Ryan doesn't like to do a lot of things, so
Speaker 4: all right, Yeah, it's hard to think of other memories.
Speaker 5: One of my favorites with Nick is when I stayed
Speaker 5: over at his apartment in Lawrence so we could go
Speaker 5: to college game day. Uh for on TV, we were
Speaker 5: on TV. Yeah, they interviewed us for a local what
Speaker 5: was it CBS. I think that was really fun, one
Speaker 5: of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the crack of dawn, like before the sun
Speaker 1: even came up. You guys were on TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like six.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 4: I ran into Ryan and Alan field House once when
Speaker 4: I was a writer for Rock Chalk Blog and to
Speaker 4: meet him.
Speaker 1: That is still that is still your caller ID in
Speaker 1: my phone and we are we're babies in that picture.
Speaker 1: That's that's funny.
Speaker 2: The same amount every time you hop on the show, Nick.
Speaker 1: That's that's yeah, that's how it works. That's how Nick
Speaker 1: and I met is Nick used to send us as
Speaker 1: KRCB questions. Landon and I used to work at the
Speaker 1: same fast food restaurant back in the day and you
Speaker 1: started listening to this podcast for some reason. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, and yeah, look what happened. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Now Nick's like outgrown it and we can't get rid
Speaker 1: of Landon.
Speaker 2: Oh, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 1: Well. Landon actually told me in a pre production meeting
Speaker 1: that he's not leaving until Bill self wins back to
Speaker 1: back national championships.
Speaker 5: Oh boy, well man, Let's let's Hopehunter goes for thirty
Speaker 5: five and twelve this year.
Speaker 1: Hey, that would only get you half of it too.
Speaker 1: And the last one at Logan Knard Nick, who is
Speaker 1: your favorite all time KU player? And why?
Speaker 4: Remy Martin my actual answer, but there's really no reason why.
Speaker 3: I just like him. I liked his remergy.
Speaker 2: Viator.
Speaker 4: The vibes were immaculate, actual like favorite player of all
Speaker 4: time at kau Oh Man, that's a tough question.
Speaker 1: I think your answer is good. I think that's your answer.
Speaker 1: It's Remy Martin. That's kind of what you were known for,
Speaker 1: and you wound up really sticking with it. Like Nick
Speaker 1: is not a gambler by any stretch, but you were
Speaker 1: so comp or you were so confident and Remy Martin
Speaker 1: in Kansas that you bet on them at the beginning
Speaker 1: of that season and won a what was it sixteen
Speaker 1: to one odds to win, like eight hundred dollars. Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I put fifty one dollars. I made it combined
Speaker 4: two point six thousand dollars just on stupid k you
Speaker 4: win the title. That's I would have won more if, oh,
Speaker 4: if David McCormick would not have gotten hosed for the
Speaker 4: most valuable Player.
Speaker 1: That was so one time you do exactly, And he
Speaker 1: was so far and away the best player in the
Speaker 1: final four that year and didn't end up winning the scored.
Speaker 2: Two winning baskets.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I was talking to Scott Chason at one
Speaker 1: point about that, and he said everybody had turned in
Speaker 1: their ballot with eight minutes left in the championship game
Speaker 1: when it was tied. And boy, does that seem like
Speaker 1: a stupid rule, doesn't it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How do you not at this point have a way
Speaker 1: to vote after the game ends or after the result
Speaker 1: is inevitable and get an instant result. It's it's like, like,
Speaker 1: how we need to tally votes in this case? How
Speaker 1: was it not electronic?
Speaker 3: Well, it was probably stolen, like the election.
Speaker 2: I was going to.
Speaker 1: Just kidding, We're gonna all storm the capitol and and
Speaker 1: per day I'm storming the ap ridiculous all right, that
Speaker 1: is ASCARCB. And now we can for final our finally
Speaker 1: we can eulogize Nick for good.
Speaker 3: We get a Chaps outro.
Speaker 1: One one uh one one last time for good measure
Speaker 1: that Nick talks over the air horn. There's no better
Speaker 1: way to go out. Let's see her. Yeah, you want
Speaker 1: you want the bagpipes. And also so for those of
Speaker 1: you who don't, Okay, I got it. For those of
Speaker 1: you who don't see how we do this, Nick and
Speaker 1: Landon do not have the ability to see when I'm
Speaker 1: getting ready to push sound drops. So it is never
Speaker 1: their fault when that happens, because you guys are just
Speaker 1: guessing blind you hear the noises in your ear pieces.
Speaker 1: But because we're all recording from our own houses and
Speaker 1: recording our own garage band tracks that then I will
Speaker 1: put together. Then you guys have no idea. So right
Speaker 1: when you think it's quiet, you may get this. When
Speaker 1: you think it's quiet, you may get this.
Speaker 2: You never know, and it does many time. You suck ass.
Speaker 1: Like that may just be coming around any corner and yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, fine, Nick, you want it, Let's let's go.
Speaker 1: This is eleven minutes, by the way on this YouTube video,
Speaker 1: so we got time.
Speaker 2: It's as long as Nick has ever hoped for.
Speaker 1: Oh my yeah, that is for for every Penn state joke,
Speaker 1: for every Michigan state joke, for every every joke that
Speaker 1: Nick has made. That I've had to go back and
Speaker 1: beep every single time Nick is like, guys, my boss
Speaker 1: has listened, so let's behave this year and then show three.
Speaker 4: So here, guys, Yeah, every time I walked over Landing,
Speaker 4: or every time I asked where we were in the
Speaker 4: notes after not paying attention and scrolling on the internet.
Speaker 1: Fruit, yeah, Landon will get done reading Kansas is three
Speaker 1: and two against thousand all time, and then Nick will
Speaker 1: be quiet, quiet, quiet, Oh it's my turn. Kansas is
Speaker 1: three and two against thousand.
Speaker 3: Alli.
Speaker 1: And how about every paid time.
Speaker 4: Mike will pacet a meme in the notes and try
Speaker 4: to make Ryan laugh When he's reading a monologue.
Speaker 1: He'll pull up a picture of me from like ten
Speaker 1: years ago that I'm like, how the heck did you
Speaker 1: get this? Like it's like a picture of me from
Speaker 1: my childhood. I don't know how he finds this stuff.
Speaker 5: My favorite was the edited picture of you from your
Speaker 5: work that he would just throw into anything unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and Nick is Nick is a freaking photoshop
Speaker 1: guru too, so not only can he get those pictures,
Speaker 1: but he can he can also spin it into like
Speaker 1: face warp me into el Marco Jackson like it's nothing.
Speaker 4: I mean, there is a photoshop of Landon ice my
Speaker 4: body transposed over under Landon's face under your wife's body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Landon's color idea in my phone. We talked
Speaker 1: about yours earlier. That's still And every time I post
Speaker 1: a screenshot on rock Chalk Blog from Landon, somebody, whether
Speaker 1: it's Evan Phillips or somebody's like, what in the world
Speaker 1: is going on with Landon's picture?
Speaker 3: Speaking of photoshops and On Phillips.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Another Nick story that's my favorite is at
Speaker 1: least once a year, Uh, he'll get to the end
Speaker 1: of recording this and realize that his microphone didn't work,
Speaker 1: and so then I will have to send him just
Speaker 1: landon ized clips and he will have to go back
Speaker 1: for another hour and a half and fill in the
Speaker 1: blanks like that were he talked, but that audio clip
Speaker 1: has been lost. So he has to do the each show,
Speaker 1: or at least once a year. He has to do
Speaker 1: a show twice, had to do once and it sucks,
Speaker 1: it's awful. That's the benefit of me having the master computers.
Speaker 1: I never have to do that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Another thing is that I actually won Pick Them, unlike Landing.
Speaker 1: Lots of times. Yeah, so here are next final stats.
Speaker 1: Your first show, Nick was July thirtieth, twenty seventeen, which
Speaker 1: we were stoked that Billy Preston was coming to town.
Speaker 1: That's how long ago that was. That was our one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty sixth show, one sixty six. Now we
Speaker 1: just wrapped four sixty one, so you did basically three
Speaker 1: hundred shows in all. Nick did seven seasons, two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty four shows, and well over ninety percent since COVID,
Speaker 1: So the last four or five years you've been automatic.
Speaker 1: You are the twenty twenty three Rock chock Fulog Bracket
Speaker 1: Pool champion, and you also won Pick Them three times
Speaker 1: and split a fourth title with me, which is something
Speaker 1: that everybody here has done. I believe, right, everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: finally everybody, and that one time we must never forget, sir,
Speaker 1: whenever you whooped like a dog for all.
Speaker 3: Of us, that was a good impression.
Speaker 1: Nick is just as Bill self would say. Nick is
Speaker 1: a stud and it has been awesome doing five? Is
Speaker 1: it six?
Speaker 2: Did we do six seasons together?
Speaker 1: We did do six seasons together? Or was it seven?
Speaker 2: It was seven?
Speaker 1: I just read that. I just read that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I developed Alzheimer's in the last ten minutes. Nick did
Speaker 1: seven seasons of ITB and boy did it go fast
Speaker 1: or not?
Speaker 3: No, fifteen days we did the math. It was about
Speaker 3: fifteen days of my life.
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh, I think you guys low because you
Speaker 1: only gave yourself ninety minutes per show. I think it's
Speaker 1: close to two hours and all.
Speaker 4: That doesn't include all the that does include the step
Speaker 4: forty five minutes per show where we set listening to
Speaker 4: Ryan and land in debate whether Lebron James could be
Speaker 4: six sixteen people with a dwarf.
Speaker 1: Is I think that. My favorite Nick factoid ever, is
Speaker 1: how much you hate Ask Rock Chalk Blog. That is
Speaker 1: so funny.
Speaker 4: You really do hate, like ask ARCB. I hated the
Speaker 4: questions that were always the same. Is Almarco Jackson going
Speaker 4: to be good this season is None of the questions
Speaker 4: were ever what is the deepest philosophical question you've ever
Speaker 4: thought of?
Speaker 3: None of the questions wherever.
Speaker 4: If you were on a deserted island and you can
Speaker 4: only bring two items with you, what would you bring?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Nick was amazing. Nis.
Speaker 6: It was always is Rodney Terry's glasses going to have
Speaker 6: a yet orange or black frame on them?
Speaker 1: That did happen, That did happen frequently. Yeah, Well, Nick,
Speaker 1: Nick is the one who it's kind of You're a
Speaker 1: You're kind of a victim of your own monster you
Speaker 1: created because you you were kind of what God asked
Speaker 1: arcb going, because you used to ask back when we'd
Speaker 1: only get two or three questions per show, and you
Speaker 1: would ask hilarious ones that got it going. So that's
Speaker 1: uh yeah, and Nick is typing the greatest questions asked
Speaker 1: and the answer is yes, you have to do that
Speaker 1: thing that you just typed. You cannot risk.
Speaker 5: I am moving to the most remote part of the
Speaker 5: earth and living alone from the rest of my days.
Speaker 1: But nobody would sell you a house.
Speaker 4: It is certainly it is certainly the second part that
Speaker 4: conscience wise, it is certainly the second.
Speaker 1: Part yes, but you have to and I would we can.
Speaker 1: We can discuss this if you want it's your last show.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna want this.
Speaker 2: I think we are discussing it right now.
Speaker 1: Then we can leave it at that. Nick, you are
Speaker 1: not allowed to be a stranger to the show. So
Speaker 1: next year, Landon and I do have a a third
Speaker 1: co host that is coming in to replace Nick. You
Speaker 1: get to find out a little.
Speaker 2: Bit with Sam Tipples.
Speaker 1: Oh you're going for it. Okay, you're going for it. Yes,
Speaker 1: we already said yes. Ask our CB question asker and
Speaker 1: friend of the podcast for years, Cam Lipple is joining
Speaker 1: as the third host next year, which should be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. We're looking forward to that. But the
Speaker 1: Nick sized hole that is vacant for my TP now
Speaker 1: is not going to be replaced easily at all. So Nick,
Speaker 1: there will be shows, as you know, where we have
Speaker 1: a couple of people that are struggling to make it.
Speaker 1: I am gonna reach out to you a couple of
Speaker 1: times each season and be like, hey, buddy, you do
Speaker 1: not say yes, but like you got an hour and
Speaker 1: a half whenever you're not making your your your fortunes
Speaker 1: from being a rich investment.
Speaker 4: Maker extraordinaire probably won't say us, but I.
Speaker 1: Bet you will Landon. I over under zero point five podcast,
Speaker 1: Nick is on next year over Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: I think you get the itch, and we'll will absolutely
Speaker 1: do that at some point.
Speaker 2: So I think you do one. I think you do
Speaker 2: at least one, but no more than two.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, there's a there's a hard limit for sure.
Speaker 1: But no. Nick will be back Landon and I will
Speaker 1: be back along with Cam next season. Next podcast probably
Speaker 1: coming out around late night in the fog. Maybe we
Speaker 1: do one before if there's actual news, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, until then, enjoy your summer because it already
Speaker 1: feels like fall outside, which is kind of weird. Nick,
Speaker 1: you're the best. Thank you for seven years of dedication
Speaker 1: to this podcast. Me and your fans alike congratulate you
Speaker 1: on a job well done, going from high school to
Speaker 1: now a full time adult in that time. And hey,
Speaker 1: we got to cover the National Championship. So I'll shut
Speaker 1: up and let you have the closing word or Land
Speaker 1: and you go ahead, and then we can let Nick
Speaker 1: close it out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not too much else to add, Nick, It's been
Speaker 5: a blast. I love doing shows. With you as much
Speaker 5: as even a couple times early in the early years,
Speaker 5: I was genuinely frustrated about how you reach the same
Speaker 5: paragraph about why Baylor's bigs are too thin but maybe
Speaker 5: pretty good. Right after I did became One of my
Speaker 5: favorite parts about doing shows with you is that you're
Speaker 5: a quirky guy sometimes.
Speaker 2: But we became real friends outside.
Speaker 5: Of this, which I did not anticipate, and that's been
Speaker 5: a lot of fun as well. So we should not
Speaker 5: be strangers after the show ends, but it's been blast.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: Also, also one more ascarcb just came in from at
Speaker 1: Kate Eden fourteen and it says, Nick, it has been real.
Speaker 2: Do you think.
Speaker 1: Kansas is now the clear favorite to win at all?
Speaker 1: Give an answer on your way out, sir, is Kansas
Speaker 1: the clear favorite to win it all?
Speaker 3: And link there is a clear favorite? And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: leave with that ambiguously.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean, I mean outside of that, you.
Speaker 3: Know, those are some nice words.
Speaker 8: I'm not actually dying, as he said the fas this
Speaker 8: is this is a podcast where I've talked spent fifteen
Speaker 8: fifteen days of my actual life talking about Bill self
Speaker 8: having his head up as butt.
Speaker 3: So I don't think I need deserve I deserve too
Speaker 3: many flowers for that. I think it's just, you know,
Speaker 3: it's been it's been great. It's been fun.
Speaker 4: You know, high school, that's back when I was deeply
Speaker 4: invested in everything KU athletics, you know, wanted to write
Speaker 4: for this blog.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, it's been great to.
Speaker 4: Be able to vent your frustrations about basketball into a
Speaker 4: microphone and have everyone hear it and just the you know,
Speaker 4: just been so fun doing it with you guys. Definitely
Speaker 4: super fun memories and lots of laughter, lots of fun,
Speaker 4: fun times. But like every great story, just like Hunter
Speaker 4: Dickinson's career, it's eventually gonna have to end, and you
Speaker 4: know that's that's where're right now.
Speaker 3: So no, I'm I'm grateful. This has been a fun
Speaker 3: seven years. A lot of time goes into these shows.
Speaker 4: It's especially now working full time. It's just very hard
Speaker 4: to manage. I'm kind of going to lebron route with
Speaker 4: load management. Not a complain about that though.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it's been great. Thank the listeners.
Speaker 4: Those of you are stuck with a show for the
Speaker 4: seven years we've been on. That's I'm surprised you you're
Speaker 4: you're still alive, insane, because that's crazy to listen to
Speaker 4: us for seven years in a row. I would probably
Speaker 4: be in a mental facility after that. But but yeah,
Speaker 4: thanks thanks for listening.
Speaker 3: It's been fun. It's been a good time.
Speaker 1: That's all I can find.
Speaker 2: This is so fitting. That's all I gott. That's all
Speaker 2: I got is the deserved ending.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Nick will be back next year at
Speaker 1: some point.
Speaker 4: For now, are you sing behind the woodshed and put
Speaker 4: a gunshot to end this thing your career?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I can drag it out. I
Speaker 1: guess Yeah, here's the seven wonderful years, sir. All right, Landon,
Speaker 1: we're a two man band now at this point, I
Speaker 1: guess we better. We better clean up this house before
Speaker 1: Cam comes home and tells us to get our act
Speaker 1: in shape.
Speaker 5: Huh As If he's gonna do that, we're gonna have
Speaker 5: to organize him.
Speaker 2: There's no chance he's not gonna be the one to
Speaker 2: keep us in the line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we might. We might. We might be the parents
Speaker 1: in this case. Now, Like if we were parents, Am
Speaker 1: I the dad or you the dad?
Speaker 2: I think you're the dad because I think you're more
Speaker 2: likely to go off with Cam and do really dumb stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha. Even though in this case the mom in
Speaker 1: this analogy has way more chest hair than dad.
Speaker 2: That is true, which is rare, but it does happen
Speaker 2: for the great Nick Whiper.
Speaker 1: I am Ryan Lander. This is inside the.
Speaker 2: Paint for Nick Wipper. I am Nick Wipper.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all you get. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: that's that's right, and uh we'll be back by nick.
Speaker 3: H Yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay,