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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumbus. Our guest in

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<v Speaker 1>this edition is retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel Bruce mckentee.

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<v Speaker 1>He served twenty one years in uniform, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>also a veteran of the Vietnam War, where he flew

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<v Speaker 1>Cobra attack helicopters. He was also shot down by an

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<v Speaker 1>enemy SA seven heat seeking missile and barely escaped with

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<v Speaker 1>his life in nineteen seventy two. We'll hear that story

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<v Speaker 1>and how he was rescued in great detail in today's podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll also learn all about the cobras and what types

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<v Speaker 1>of missions he was flying over Vietnam. Bruce mckentye was

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<v Speaker 1>born into an army family, and he says his path

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<v Speaker 1>from being the son of an officer to an ROTC

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<v Speaker 1>cadet to becoming a career Army officer seemed natural from

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<v Speaker 1>a very early age.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born into the Army. My father was a

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two, Korean War, and Vietnam veteran. He served

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one years in the field artillery. I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in the military environment and enjoyed it. I went to

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<v Speaker 2>high school. I went to school all over the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went to high school in France. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good start in life. Go to high school

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<v Speaker 2>in Paris, France. How many people can do that. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to college at Texas A and University, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went there strictly to obtain a commission in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Army. I was planning to be a career officer

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<v Speaker 2>ever since high school. So I completed Texas A and

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<v Speaker 2>M in nineteen seventy graduated, and I went to went

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<v Speaker 2>into my Officer Basic course. I was a Field Artillery

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<v Speaker 2>officer on active duty, but I was also obligated to

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<v Speaker 2>go to flight school because I went through the ROTWC

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<v Speaker 2>flight program at Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>A and M.

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<v Speaker 2>In January of nineteen seventy one, I went to my

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<v Speaker 2>Officer Basic course at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, completed that. I

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<v Speaker 2>had four months to wait until I could go to

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<v Speaker 2>flight school. So I was an OCAs tack officer and

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<v Speaker 2>the local officer candidate school battalion and as a tack

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<v Speaker 2>officer until I went to flight school, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it started in April of nineteen seventy one. Went to

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<v Speaker 2>Fort Walters, Texas, where I went through ULSER Primary Helicopter School,

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<v Speaker 2>in the THH fifty five helicopter, and I really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>that because I went to school in Texas, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I was right at home. So that was a

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<v Speaker 2>four month course, I believe. Once we completed that, we

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<v Speaker 2>went to Fort Rucker, Alabama for our advanced helicopter training,

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<v Speaker 2>which we did instrument training, we did contact training, and

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<v Speaker 2>to learn how to fly the UH one helicopter, which

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<v Speaker 2>was the basic workhorse of the army.

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<v Speaker 1>Mckentie completed flight school in April of nineteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon he was off to Vietnam as an attack

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter pilot, specifically in cobras.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an H one G Cobra attack helicopter made by

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<v Speaker 2>bel Helicopter was made and made and fielid into the

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<v Speaker 2>Army in nineteen sixty seven. Was built strictly as an

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<v Speaker 2>attack helicopter. He was the first helicopter to be built

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<v Speaker 2>just as an attack helicopter. Tandem seating front and back seat,

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<v Speaker 2>fully closed canopy just like a jet a fighter jet

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<v Speaker 2>had air conditioning. Because it was a closed canopy, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a nice feature Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only three feet wide. The fuse launch. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a very unique helicopter.

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<v Speaker 2>I decided that if I was going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Vietnam and get shot at, I wanted to be in

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<v Speaker 2>something that could shoot back, and this could do the job.

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<v Speaker 1>McKenty just explained a bit at the end of that

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<v Speaker 1>last response why he loved flying the Cobra so much,

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<v Speaker 1>the weaponry, and he told us quite a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about the power the Cobra could unleash upon an enemy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well special about it as it had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>weapons on it. There were multiple configurations that you could

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<v Speaker 2>put on that aircraft, from the two point seven to

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<v Speaker 2>five inch fold in fen Areo rocket at seven point

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<v Speaker 2>six two millimeter miniguns at a forty milimeter grenade launcher automatic.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget the rate of fire for the forty millimeters,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was it was something like four hundred rounds

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<v Speaker 2>a minute or something, and the miniguns were two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>or four thousand rounds per minute you could fire. And

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<v Speaker 2>the rockets they went on the rocket pods and the

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<v Speaker 2>wing stores, and you had eighteen shot rocket pods and

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<v Speaker 2>seven shot rocket pods, so you had indoor pods and

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<v Speaker 2>you were which were normally the heavier pods, which were

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<v Speaker 2>the eighteen shot rocket pods and M two hundred I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was called, and then they had M one

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<v Speaker 2>five eight pods, which were the seven shot rocket pods

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<v Speaker 2>on the outboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Mkenty also says the Cobra had good speed and could

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the air for quite a while before needing

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<v Speaker 1>to refuel.

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<v Speaker 2>The top speed was about one hundred and eighty miles

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<v Speaker 2>an hour in the one hundred and eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>Knots nautica miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>The fuel range was about two and a half hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and we normally, you know, flew for about two hours

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<v Speaker 2>two hours fifteen minutes before we returned to the station

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<v Speaker 2>for fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time McKenty went to Vietnam, much of the

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<v Speaker 1>American public and especially people his age, had soured on

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<v Speaker 1>the war effort, but McKenty says he was laser focused

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<v Speaker 1>on training and getting ready for the duty that he

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<v Speaker 1>knew would be coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I went to a military school, Texas Stadem, although

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a military academy, at a pretty strong military school,

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<v Speaker 2>just like the Citadel and VMI.

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody's pretty gung ho.

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<v Speaker 2>Military were very patriotic, and we did what our president.

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<v Speaker 3>Told us to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had no doubt that once I completed helicopter

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<v Speaker 2>training and I was going to Vietnam, although most of

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<v Speaker 2>my class de duct out of Vietnam, because it was

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<v Speaker 2>at that point in the Vietnam that they were starting

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<v Speaker 2>to stand down the military divisions and ground troops and

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<v Speaker 2>sending them home.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, when I arrived.

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<v Speaker 2>In Vietnam, there were a very very few ground troops there.

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<v Speaker 1>When he arrived in Vietnam, McKenty became very aware of

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<v Speaker 1>certain things that were very different than they were back home.

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<v Speaker 1>From the climate, to the enemy threats, to the general

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<v Speaker 1>condition of the country. He immediately knew he was in

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<v Speaker 1>a whole new world.

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<v Speaker 2>What impressed me it was very very hot, It was

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<v Speaker 2>very very human. He broke out into a sweat as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as you got off the airplane. We're all in

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<v Speaker 2>our lightweight tw uniforms, and it was instant sweat as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as you walked down the ramp.

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<v Speaker 3>What really stuck with me was riding in.

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<v Speaker 2>We got on a bus to ride to a processing center,

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<v Speaker 2>and as your driver down the bus had had like

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<v Speaker 2>a wire on the on the windows. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>a chain link fence on all the windows. So and

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<v Speaker 2>I've tried to figure.

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<v Speaker 3>Out what that was all about.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy goes to grenades, so grenades don't get

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<v Speaker 2>in the bus and go off, they hit the screen

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<v Speaker 2>and bounce out. So that plus, when we got into

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<v Speaker 2>a civilian part of the country, all the structures that

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<v Speaker 2>I could see there were so many just old tin

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<v Speaker 2>roofs and they were arrested, and just pieces of metal

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<v Speaker 2>that don't even match covering the tops of the rous

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just amazed.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, my father spent a couple of tours in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to high school in France and never saw

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that, so that was quite shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Mkenty didn't go up in the Cobra immediately, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>for a short time. Other duties took up his time.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually stayed they called it Camp Alpha, which is

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<v Speaker 2>right there in Saigon, and stayed there a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days until they decided which unit that I was going to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they made those decisions. All he

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<v Speaker 2>knew was I was a cob rated commissioned officer and

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<v Speaker 2>so they were limited. I couldn't go to just any

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter unit. I had to go like an aerial field

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<v Speaker 2>arty unit or to an air cavalry unit. Where they

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<v Speaker 2>had Cobra helicopters. So I just sat there and waited.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go to the first calve. I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up in the first calve, so I was very happy.

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<v Speaker 1>When it was time to fly. Mkenty says he was

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<v Speaker 1>very confident in his skills, but was keenly aware he

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<v Speaker 1>had never used them in combat, so he learned everything

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<v Speaker 1>he could from the more experienced pilots.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was focused on learning my job.

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<v Speaker 2>I was I knew how to fly the alicopter and

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<v Speaker 2>did really know how to perform the mission of an

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<v Speaker 2>air cavalry troop. So I concentrated on trying to learn

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<v Speaker 2>from the experienced The aircraft commander that I was flying

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<v Speaker 2>with cover is a two person helicopter. You have an

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<v Speaker 2>aircraft commander who is a rated pilot in the back seat.

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<v Speaker 2>He flies the aircraft and controls the winging, stores all

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<v Speaker 2>the rocket firing. Then you have a front seat who

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<v Speaker 2>was also a rated pilot, and he has controls up

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<v Speaker 2>there that he could fly the aircraft, and he can

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<v Speaker 2>yes switches that he could take over, and he could

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<v Speaker 2>fire rockets that he could fire machine gun in forty

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<v Speaker 2>millimeter either see could do that, but the aircraft commander

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<v Speaker 2>sat in the back, and he's the guy that has

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<v Speaker 2>all the experience. He's been there probably in country five

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<v Speaker 2>or six months already, and he's now the aircraft commander.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm a pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a pilot copilot gunner, and so I learned from

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<v Speaker 2>him the mission of the air cavalry and how to

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<v Speaker 2>navigate across that strange land. I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>jungle of bryce patties and mountains or pretty diverse terrain

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<v Speaker 2>to learn how to navigate around. And I learned how

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<v Speaker 2>to when we were out in free fire areas. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd do some target practice on trees or something, just

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<v Speaker 2>learning the fire better when we weren't actually looking for

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<v Speaker 2>the bad guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel Bruce McEntee. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>a Vietnam veteran who was wounded twice while serving as

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<v Speaker 1>a Cobra attack helicopter pilot. One of those times he

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<v Speaker 1>was also shot down. That story and the dramatic rescue

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<v Speaker 1>that followed are straight ahead. I'm Greg Corumbus, and this

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<v Speaker 1>This is Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumba's. Our guest in

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<v Speaker 1>this edition is retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel and Cobra

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<v Speaker 1>Attack helicopter pilot Bruce mckentie, who now begins the story

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<v Speaker 1>of how he was shot down over Vietnam in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two.

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<v Speaker 2>That day I was flying with Bobby Reinhardt. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a CW two experience. He's probably about seven or eight

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<v Speaker 2>years older than I am and had probably about tener.

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<v Speaker 3>Eleven years of the army.

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<v Speaker 2>The other helicopter was combated by CW two Bob Minette.

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<v Speaker 2>We call him Buffalo Bob, and one of my best

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<v Speaker 2>friends to this day. He was on his second tour.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also one of the instructor pilots of the Cobra.

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<v Speaker 2>Very experienced, and I had a lot of flights with him.

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<v Speaker 2>And his front seat was First Lieutenant Danny Buddha, another

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<v Speaker 2>new guy like me, right out of flight school, first

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<v Speaker 2>tour in Vietnam, and then Wally Wall He was a

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<v Speaker 2>City of B two and he he was an experienced

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter pilot and he was on his second tour. He

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<v Speaker 2>was flying the six Alpha, which is their scout helicopter.

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<v Speaker 2>So and George Hewlett was the troop commander, and First

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<v Speaker 2>Lieutenant Jefferies was the.

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<v Speaker 3>Co pilot for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Command and Control ship and they we all took off.

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<v Speaker 2>We were flying in the Razorback Mountains, which was in

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<v Speaker 2>between the city of Tannin in the Tetan province and

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<v Speaker 2>in the Cambodian border.

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<v Speaker 3>Up around the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Beat kind of low mountainous, not big high mountains there

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<v Speaker 2>a couple thousand feet first of all, the C and

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<v Speaker 2>C ship gets up around four thousand feet where he

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<v Speaker 2>could get sight.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the whole area.

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<v Speaker 2>We're flying altitude. When I first got in country, we

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<v Speaker 2>were flying right on top of the trees because we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have IR suppression kits, and they had lost a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of cobras in the months of the Eastern Offensive

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<v Speaker 2>of nineteen seventy two. He'd lost a lot of cobra

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<v Speaker 2>helicopters to SA seven he seeking missiles. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>got there, they were retrofitting all the aircraft with IR

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<v Speaker 2>suppression kits so we could fly at altitude. Did most

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<v Speaker 2>of my flying before this right on top of the

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<v Speaker 2>tree tops at one hundred and fifty miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>flying circles around a little bird in the middle, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to protect him and to react if he got shot at.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd been flying at altitude for several months, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was still uneasy because the clouds were low, with the

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<v Speaker 2>cloud through about two thousand feet. We were flying at

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<v Speaker 2>about eighteen hundred feet below that, which is put you

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<v Speaker 2>in the range for SA seven heat seeking missile. It

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<v Speaker 2>also puts you in range for all their heavier anti

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<v Speaker 2>aircraft weapons, the fifty one caliber twenty three millimeter. We're

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<v Speaker 2>just out of range, so there's small arms, just the

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<v Speaker 2>rifles or AK forty seven. Buffalo. Bob goes flies down,

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<v Speaker 2>but they call trolling. He goes down in his cobra

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<v Speaker 2>and he just tools goes through it about one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour or one hundred knots on top of

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<v Speaker 2>the trees, the trolling to see if there's any bad

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<v Speaker 2>guys down there. He didn't take any fire, so he

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<v Speaker 2>came back up and he put the little bird on

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<v Speaker 2>the trees. So he's just going down there and make

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<v Speaker 2>sure we're not putting the little bird into hornet's nest.

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<v Speaker 2>The little birds stand on the bottom, and we get

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<v Speaker 2>into a racetrack pattern where we're flying about one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty degrees out from each other at about eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred feet in a big circular pattern, and so that

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<v Speaker 2>both the aircraft could keep an eye on a little

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<v Speaker 2>bird command and control ship because of the cloud cover.

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<v Speaker 2>He's flying at the same altitude we are, except he's

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<v Speaker 2>flying a bigger circle around us. We're flying around and around,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm waiting for something to happen because I'd bet

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<v Speaker 2>at this position before the first time I got shot.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a weird, eerie feeling that day. It

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<v Speaker 2>comes with being close to the cambody in border. When

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<v Speaker 2>you're flying on a mission in Vietnam at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>there are no good guys on the ground. When you

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<v Speaker 2>get shot down, you're in bad trouble if your immediate

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<v Speaker 2>guys are flying with can't come and get you. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of spooky. Cambodia is spooky. It's like you

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<v Speaker 2>can't see the border, but you could feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>You get and we were.

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<v Speaker 2>Flying close to the border. But our mission is to

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<v Speaker 2>protect that little bird, so and as the co pilot gunner,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to be taking notes on whatever he's finding

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<v Speaker 2>down there. So I got straight on doing that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I still have this weird feeling in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>my head. We had BET up for fifteen minutes or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes, and all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 5>Silence. We were complete. I have to tell you I

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<v Speaker 5>don't talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About this often retired US Army lieutenant colonel and Cobra

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<v Speaker 1>Attack helicopter pilot Bruce mckentee. You'll hear the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>his incredible story in just a moment. This is Veterans Chronicles.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumbus. Our guest in

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<v Speaker 1>this edition is retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel Bruce McKenty.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also a Vietnam veteran. He flew Cobra Attack helicopters

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<v Speaker 1>over Vietnam and narrowly survived being shot down by an

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<v Speaker 1>enemy SA seven heat seeking missile in nineteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>McKenty now picks up the story right after his Cobra

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<v Speaker 1>was hit.

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<v Speaker 3>We had.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolute silence, which was just areas because part of that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of rotorblade noise and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of injined noise, and a lot of communication traffic on

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<v Speaker 2>three different radios because the little bird was reported a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of activity, and that you know, little one band

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<v Speaker 2>trails we saw yesterday or the day before were now

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<v Speaker 2>you know, jeep tracks or something, you know, vehicle tracks

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<v Speaker 2>bent that there were people coming across the border, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's why we were up there on the border to

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<v Speaker 2>find out if they were coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>And because Adlock the.

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<v Speaker 2>Easter Offensive of seventy two, you know, started in like

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<v Speaker 2>March April of seventy two and ended the end of June,

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of July, and I got there in July. We

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<v Speaker 2>weren't sure if it was complete, if they were done,

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<v Speaker 2>so we knew there were a lot of bad guys

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the border trying to get across.

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<v Speaker 2>It was eerie because all that noise went away and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Well, we knew it was called on. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we got hit and we didn't know with what we

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<v Speaker 2>knew it was big because the aircraft shook and the

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<v Speaker 2>UH and we could see the flames outside the canopy.

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<v Speaker 2>The aircraft was on fire and we caught uh fire immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>We lost our engine immediately, we lost uh A not

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<v Speaker 2>on the engine, electrical you know, hydraulics, we lost everything.

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<v Speaker 2>We couldn't even talk to each other. We had to

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<v Speaker 2>yell back and forth in the canopy and UH Bobby,

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<v Speaker 2>being experienced UH pilot you know, entered all the rotation. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>yelling back and forth. You know, we don't have hydraulics.

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<v Speaker 2>Hydraulic reservoir which is about eighteen inches behind his head.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other side of a thin firewall exploded, burned

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<v Speaker 2>into the cockpit with us. The cockpit started filling with smoke.

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<v Speaker 3>And fumes and fire.

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<v Speaker 2>The fire came started to commit. Bobby's screaming that he's burning.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see Bobby. He's back behind me. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a instrument console in between us. So he says, help

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<v Speaker 2>me get on the controls and so I but they

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<v Speaker 2>slide away, grabbed by little short controls I have in

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<v Speaker 2>the front, and we are trying to slow the aircraft down.

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<v Speaker 2>We were doing about one hundred and twenty knots when

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<v Speaker 2>we got hit. Airspeed for all rotation is eighty nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to slow this thing down. We're heading towards

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<v Speaker 2>the only clearing that we could see as an arc light,

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<v Speaker 2>scarred terrain in the middle of the jungle where they

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<v Speaker 2>dropped one hundred and eight five hundred pound bombs. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what our arc light consists of from B fifty two's

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<v Speaker 2>so we could see that. So that's the only place

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<v Speaker 2>that we could see where there might be a flat

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<v Speaker 2>terrain for us to land. So we're now fighting trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get control of the aircraft, but we're also fighting

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<v Speaker 2>trying to breathe. We can't breathe. It is talk, it

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<v Speaker 2>is we're coughing our gutsa. So we're at about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred feet fourteen hundred feet and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we need air. I opened my front I left canopy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I supposed to open him above sixty nns

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<v Speaker 2>or it's gonna rip off. I don't care, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I need fresh air. All that did was feed

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<v Speaker 2>the fire, and the fire just enveloped both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire cockit was covered, was in flame. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna jump. I was gonna undo my seatbelt and jump,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, I'm going I'm jumping. Bobby opened his

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<v Speaker 2>canopy and as soon as he opened his canopy, it's

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<v Speaker 2>on the back right, it created a cross draft of

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred not win and it just took all the

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<v Speaker 2>fire and all the smoke right out the back and

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<v Speaker 2>we buckle up. So we decided to buckle back up,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to ride this.

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<v Speaker 3>Puppy in.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we can breathe. We're not getting burned anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby got burned bad. But we now have to get

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<v Speaker 2>control of this aircraft to get it on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>We're headed in the right direction. We're still trying to

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<v Speaker 2>slow this thing down. We do we were doing in

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<v Speaker 2>excess of a one hundred knots and we need to

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<v Speaker 2>get it back to eighty. And the bad thing is

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<v Speaker 2>at the very bottom. We need to pull back on

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<v Speaker 2>that cyclic some more, to do a little flare action

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<v Speaker 2>to slow down from doing eighty knots to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something like thirty or forty knots before we can touch

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<v Speaker 2>down and cushion with our collective. And we are just

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<v Speaker 2>straining with all of our might to slow this thing down.

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<v Speaker 2>We finally can feel that we're slowing it down, but

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<v Speaker 2>we don't We're not going to have anything at the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>so we have really no control of where we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>set this thing down. We're just heading for that park

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<v Speaker 2>Lake area and hope we don't hit trees.

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<v Speaker 3>I just remember at the very.

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<v Speaker 2>Bottom, I remember, I mean we're fifty feet and we're

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<v Speaker 2>still traveling fast and I don't know, forty miles fifty

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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour, maybe faster, I don't know, but we

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<v Speaker 2>were going in fast, and we're pulling on both controls,

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<v Speaker 2>both of us, as hard as we can to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get at the slow down. Otherwise we figured it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in said death if we hit at

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<v Speaker 2>seventy or eighty miles an hour. And what do we hit.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know. We're going to hit wherever we hit

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't have that control. We're pulling with all

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<v Speaker 2>of our might, and then all of a sudden, the

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<v Speaker 2>ground is right there. I let go of the controls

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<v Speaker 2>at that point and did this just try to cover

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<v Speaker 2>my face, and that's all I remember.

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<v Speaker 3>I was knocked unconscious.

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<v Speaker 1>As McKenty said earlier, there weren't any good guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground except the ones he flew in with, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are exactly why he's here today to tell his

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<v Speaker 1>story because, as McKenty explains here, his fellow pilot was

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<v Speaker 1>a hero that day and moved him away from enemy

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<v Speaker 1>forces in the nick of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything I I'll tell you now is what was told

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<v Speaker 2>to me later by Bobby and Buffalo, Bob and Wally,

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<v Speaker 2>who were flying the other two aircraft, the Little Bird

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<v Speaker 2>and the other Cobra, which they told me later because

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<v Speaker 2>they were out the cobra and the little bird.

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<v Speaker 3>We're out flying and.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooting the bad guys who were trying to come.

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<v Speaker 3>And get us.

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby tells me later that he's out of the aircraft

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<v Speaker 2>and he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Going with Bruce, and there's no Bruce.

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<v Speaker 2>When our aircraft hit we apparently the skids spread flatten.

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<v Speaker 2>It hit the ground, bounced upside down, cut the tail

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<v Speaker 2>boom off with the rotor, and landed upside down. I

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<v Speaker 2>assume I was knocked out when we initially hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>So Bobby gets out and there's no Bruce, and he

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<v Speaker 2>looks back at the aircraft and sees me hanging upside down,

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<v Speaker 2>covered in. My face is covered in blood.

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<v Speaker 3>So he assumes I'm dead.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's not going to leave my body there to burn,

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<v Speaker 2>so he came back.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a full load of ammunition rockets forty millimeters

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<v Speaker 2>in minigan, so we're upside down there in the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Where it was on the top, now it's on the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom and it's burning up towards all that ammunition. Bobby

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<v Speaker 2>comes down and cuts me out of my seat, drags

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<v Speaker 2>me out of the aircraft, and he was I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he was going to drag me all the

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<v Speaker 2>way back to the rescue after aircraft or what he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to do. But I started to come too

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<v Speaker 2>and moaning and groaning. Then he goes, oh, you're alive.

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<v Speaker 2>So he stops and he picks me up and he

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm standing there all of a sudden, and everything

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<v Speaker 2>else is still not totally there. I just know that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm running and Bobby's dragging me. I fall, Bobby picks

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<v Speaker 2>me up, We run some more. We could hear the

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter rescue helicopter. We could hear the rotor blades of

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<v Speaker 2>the engine, but we couldn't see it. We had jungle,

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<v Speaker 2>not real big thick jungle, but we had jungle trees.

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<v Speaker 2>And we took the right path, I guess, because all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden we busted out into a little clearing

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<v Speaker 2>and there's George Hewlett in his uh one h sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there waiting for us, and we were so happy. So

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<v Speaker 2>we run over the aircraft and we climb on board

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<v Speaker 2>the cour chief. He gut her and pulls of some onboard.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing I did was run up.

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<v Speaker 3>And give Georgie a big hug and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Started smoking on the first time I got wounded in Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I grabbed a cigarette and I first had

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<v Speaker 2>a little cigarette.

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<v Speaker 3>They took off the other cobra with Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they fired up some rockets on our arcob

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure it burned up and blew up, and

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<v Speaker 2>we did hear some stuff cooking off as we were

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<v Speaker 2>running away from it. I'm glad Bobby came back and

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<v Speaker 2>got me when he did, because it'd been much longer

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have probably gotten caught and all that, so pretty

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<v Speaker 2>traumatic day. They flew us back to like Hay where

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<v Speaker 2>we were standing on over and another aircraft took us

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<v Speaker 2>down to We switched into another hue and they flew

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<v Speaker 2>us down to Sagon where the third Field He hospital

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<v Speaker 2>is and which is where we got taken care of.

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce McKenty recovered from his burns quite a bit sooner

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<v Speaker 1>than Bobby Reinhardt, the pilot who saved him. He then

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<v Speaker 1>took some scheduled time off back in the States, but

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<v Speaker 1>after McKenty told his story to his father, who was

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<v Speaker 1>still an active duty Army officer at Fort Hood, his

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<v Speaker 1>dad made sure Bruce got more medical tests and an

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<v Speaker 1>X ray showed he did, in fact have a fractured skull.

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<v Speaker 1>He was still fit to serve, including as a headquarters

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<v Speaker 1>company commander back in Vietnam, but he would not fly

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<v Speaker 1>in Vietnam again. In reflecting upon his career, Mkenty says

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<v Speaker 1>he is most proud of the leadership roles he held

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<v Speaker 1>and the people he helped to influence.

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<v Speaker 2>That was very, very proud of my ability to command.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed commanding. I had the headquarters company in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 2>Later on had the a battery, third seventeen Field Artillery

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<v Speaker 2>in an artillery assignment in Germany. For two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half years. As a major, I was a commander for

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<v Speaker 2>the Headquarters United States Army. What a title? Headquarters for

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<v Speaker 2>the United States Army. I owned all the soldiers in

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<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon. So I enjoyed command. I'm very proud that

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<v Speaker 2>and hoped that I influenced a lot of younger officers

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<v Speaker 2>and that listed people to follow on my footsteps and

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<v Speaker 2>become career military. I know that there was some field

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<v Speaker 2>artillery spec fors ephors that they came to flight school

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<v Speaker 2>because of Mata. I was an aviator in an artillery

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<v Speaker 2>unit and they would talk to me about flying, and

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<v Speaker 2>two of them came to flight school later on, and

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<v Speaker 2>I bumped into one of them as a young warrant

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<v Speaker 2>officer when I was at In fact, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving dinner at Fort Myer, Virginia, and bumped into him there.

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<v Speaker 2>He was there with his family. He was from DC.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was that was it. I hope that I

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<v Speaker 2>inspired others to do well, to serve their country and

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<v Speaker 2>to make this a great country it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's retired US Army Colonel Bruce mckentie. He served twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one years in uniform and he's also a Vietnam veteran

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<v Speaker 1>flying Cobra attack helicopters. He was shot down by an

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<v Speaker 1>enemy SA seven missile in nineteen seventy two. I'm Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Corumbus and this is Veterans Chronicles. Hi, this is Greg Corumbus,

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