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Speaker 1: And now Audio Theater Central.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to Audio Theater Central. This is the show

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that explores family friendly audio drama through news, reviews and interviews.

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I'm your host, J D. Sutter, and this is episode

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two thirteen. Got some really cool stuff to get to

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in this episode. We've got some interviews from some guests

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from Sonic on twenty twenty three. Yes, I know that

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going to be talking with Timothy Gregory of Unshackled, a

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couple of actors Jake Phillips and Caleb Bresler, and writer

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and actor Colton Grellier. We've also got some feedback from

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Samuel Grayson and Robert But before we get to that,

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I've got some really fun, exciting audio drama updates, so

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jump into it. We interrupt this program to bring you

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Speaker 3: Report and in other news tonight.

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Speaker 1: A brief look at the headlines.

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Speaker 5: They want exciting, fast piece news that's relevant and entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Like this, Remember audio drama producers, if you have some

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that information to us well. First up, an upcoming release,

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and this one is from Sergeant Family Productions. We've talked

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about this before. This is Generations to the DC Gambit,

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which is of course the follow up to Generations, and

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it is coming very soon. But they just dropped a

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new trailer and so I wanted to share that with

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you before I hit play on that. Here is the

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summary of this production. In the swirl of a hit

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Man's revenge, Blackmail terrorizes the Senate as two hackers face

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off in a battle of wits that could shake the

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foundations of the US government. And here is that trailer.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Bethany, did you miss me?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I can't believe what I just saw.

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Speaker 2: I need you to tell me I'm not crazy.

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Speaker 7: If you're not, this could be a big problem, could

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be so stupid.

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Speaker 2: I understand there's a young lady from out of town

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who threatens one of your goals.

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Speaker 6: You think money, status and physical beauty means somebody can

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actually sing.

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Speaker 1: I can find solutions to problems that might otherwise go unsolved.

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Speaker 8: I love this town.

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Speaker 2: Is it a deal.

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Speaker 9: It's a deal.

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Speaker 6: You're going to tell him and everybody else for the

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rest of your life that you don't love him anymore.

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Speaker 5: Fairlight, too bad your country who we saw that dance?

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Speaker 9: He's not my country boy.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe you.

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Speaker 9: How dare you tell me why I.

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Speaker 4: Should help you?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm a nice guy. Nice guys don't blackmail people.

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Speaker 10: You'll leave us alone.

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Speaker 6: That's just if you want your parents to live.

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Speaker 5: Jordan Nolan is a dead man.

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Speaker 11: Did you spend a night under my bed?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: That was pretty much insane.

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Speaker 6: You're this close to having a bullet in your head.

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Speaker 2: I've been that close for over a week. Make your choice.

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Speaker 10: I can't let you do this.

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Speaker 5: You said I have what it takes to be a

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Speaker 9: You're going to assassinate Senator Smith.

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Speaker 10: Drive anywhere but here go?

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Speaker 2: Are you in?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Get out of there.

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Speaker 5: Now, but that he might be in there, release her

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Speaker 1: Stop, we know what you did.

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Speaker 10: It's a grim thought. But if this doesn't work, we're

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Speaker 2: Generations too the DC gambit, Oh my goodness, so much

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excitement and energy and oh my goodness, this isn't going

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single character. But there is still narration. Now in this trailer,

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copy of Generations one. And this one is probably one

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some peril and some action that might be a little

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scary for younger listeners, so just a heads up on that.

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to productions that are out now. First up is Chapel

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trailer for the first four episodes, which is a four

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parter called The Great Church Robbery. Welcome to Chapel and

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squeak a flashlight.

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Speaker 11: What are we going to do, squeak.

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Speaker 9: We can't let the church lose all that money.

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one suspect. Yeah, it looks like you kids might be

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of other great stuff to listen to, including Red Rock

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dot io. Well. Next up is an update from Basecamp

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Adventures Album seven is airing or Slash releasing now. It's

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junior detective training at the one and Only do Write

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Detective Agency under the enthusiastic guidance of Irving McLaurin. I

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the novel Stand Firm Echoes of War Book zero by

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Daniel Cross, Jason Markowitz, Jake Phillips, Caleb Bresler, Kara O'Brien,

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to the Terran Coalition. With mere weeks remaining, he allows

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of David's birthdays, and he intends to keep his word.

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Speaker 7: Now with attack, Sir, we are ordered to adjust opposition

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Speaker 9: Are you ready for this exl Yes, sir.

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Speaker 5: Trained for the last three years to do the job, Sir.

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Speaker 8: It is perfectly acceptable to admit fear going into battle.

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all that.

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Speaker 8: I heard the same briefing in PEV talk, But no

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one really knows how we'll stack up against an unknown enemy,

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especially not an enemy that has apparently been planning to

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hit us for decades.

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but not high, doesn't it? Sir? It's been what three

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hundred and fifty years since we've let eart to get

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away from these people?

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Speaker 8: About that, yes, and now they've showed up on our

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doorstep with a thousand ships.

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Speaker 5: The League of Soul Indeed.

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Speaker 8: Navigation flood, intercept course and synchronize our movements with the

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Goddard too. Display the zoomed in tactical plot.

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Speaker 9: Of my viewer, Ay, Sir.

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Speaker 8: Tactical firing point procedures, magnetic cannons and forward neutron beams

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Master ninety eight.

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Speaker 9: Master ninety eight too.

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Speaker 10: Shields produced by thirty percent from our courts.

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Speaker 8: Increase the power to our engines, take aggressive evasive action,

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keep them guessing.

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Speaker 9: Firing solutions subser po riche Yeah, we are.

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Speaker 8: Match bearings, shoot magnetic cannons and neutron beams, coordinate firing

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segments with our squadron mats of breast tactical any life

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Speaker 9: Sir, Master four five.

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Speaker 10: She'll be with and ranged in five minutes.

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Speaker 8: Firing point procedures, magnetic cannons and neutron beams Master four

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hundred and five.

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Speaker 5: You know I've said before it would just be easier

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if there's an actual fire. Goes back to the days

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of woodhulled sailing ships. The worst possible event for a

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vessel on the ocean or in space is fire, so

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we keep up that tradition.

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this battle began. Yesterday the idea of war was the

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furthest thing from our minds. Today we're fighting a major

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fleet action over our capital planet.

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Speaker 8: The fleet has trained for it, including you and me.

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Today we find out how well that training has prepared

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us for the real thing, not how I expected to

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spend the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 11: I will agree with you on that.

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I got the call what about you?

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Speaker 8: At home with my wife and son, already checked out

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of the CDF and ready to start a job I

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had lined up with a defense contractor in a couple

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Speaker 2: It's so good, and I'll say this, this is one

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of my favorite things to release so far this year.

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I was just completely engrossed in the story, and as

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I was listening, I totally even forgot that I'd done

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a couple of little voices for this story, and it

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was a surprise to me to come across my voice

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in this production. So anyway, that's neither here nor there,

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but highly recommend stand Firm. There's a link in the

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show notes to check it out on libro FM. I've

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talked about libro on the show recently. It is an

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alternative to audible, which actually gives you DRM free downloads

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of the products that you purchase, so you can listen

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to it on your own device and at the same time,

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you can support a local bookshop to your area with

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your purchase. So go ahead and check out LIBROFM link

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in the show notes to stand Firm. A great great

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audio drama and our last recent release is a little

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bit different. So this is from the Audio Drama Alliance

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and the ADA Member Audio Challenge, So this is something

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that we do periodically in the group, we assign a

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theme and the members have thirty days to produce a

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five minute audio production. And in April of this year,

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we wrapped up our fourth one and the theme was escape.

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So a handful of our members did take up the challenge,

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and I will be sharing some more of those as

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we go on as they publish their public versions of

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these productions. But if I'm allowed to say it, I'm

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really proud of the members of the Audio Drama Alliance

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to take up this challenge again. Like I said, this

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is our fourth time doing this over the last couple

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of years, and each time they have stepped up and

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created some really interesting things. Some of them have turned

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into series, some of them have went on to be

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recognized at different awards, festivals and things like that. So

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it's just really really cool to see what's coming out

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of this challenge. And like I said, we just wrapped

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up the latest one on the theme of escape, and

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so I wanted to talk about my submission in this

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episode here real quickly, and like I said, once the

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rest of the members start publishing theirs, I will talk

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about those as well. So my project was called Watching

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Over Me, and this one is not quite audio drama.

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It is a narration of a true story from my

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own life that I enhanced with some sound effects and

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actors voicing the dialogue and a bit of music. So again,

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it's called watching over Me. It is published on my

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website with a blog post accompanying the audio player there

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with some behind the scenes information about the creation of

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the project and a little more context for this true story. Again,

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this is a true story from my life and I'd

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love it if you would give it a listen. It's

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five minutes and it's free, So link is in the

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show notes to head over to my website Jdsetter dot

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me and check it out. And while you're there, join

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my email list so you can get notified whenever I

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publish a new project. And our final item for the

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updates segment is the Audio Drama Institute's latest offering is

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coming up this summer. It's called Making Great Audio Drama.

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This is going to be fantastic for those of you

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who are interested in getting into the audio drama industry.

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This is not going to be an event for fans

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of audio drama. But if you are a creative, even

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if you've been doing this for a little while, and

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you want to level up. This is going to be

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a fantastic opportunity. It's a week long, in depth training

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on the entire audio drama production process, from ideation and

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writing all the way through to distribution. It's going to

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be at a retreat like setting in Colorado Springs with

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teachers such as John Fornoff, Phil Lawler, Kathy Buchanan, Katie Lee,

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and Moore again covering the entire process. You do not

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want to miss this if you are at all able to.

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There will be more details to come, but save the

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date if this at all seems like something you are

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interested in. It'll be August third through the ninth of

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twenty twenty five. Website is not up quite yet at

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the time of this recording, but keep an eye on

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our website. We'll let you know once that goes live again.

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More details to come. I will say it's going to

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be an investment, but these are some of the best

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people in the world to learn this craft from. I've

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said it before, the people in the family friendly audio

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drama industry are making some of the the highest quality

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audio drama in the world right now. There are a

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few other production houses out there that are making super

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high quality stuff. But people like the creatives behind Adventures

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in Odyssey and Lamp Ladder Theater and the Ga Hinty series.

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I mean, this is some of the highest quality stuff

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ever made. And you know we're talking about Emmy Award

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and Audio Award and Peabody Award winning creatives. So this

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is going to be a fantastic opportunity to learn directly

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from them. So again, that is August third through the ninth,

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and more details to follow. All right, well, let's jump

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into these great interviews that were recorded at Sonicon twenty

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twenty three.

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Speaker 7: I have some very important information and I thought i'd

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be getting it into the hands of a real reporter.

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Speaker 11: Sir, sir, can I speak to a moment?

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Speaker 9: Oh well, there's nothing to it.

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Speaker 8: I just ask you the question and you answered them

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in the tape recorder here played the interview.

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited to share these interviews with you because

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they were some really good conversations that we were able

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to have at Soniccon twenty twenty three. And the reason

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why we're just now getting to them is I've alluded

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to this a couple of times over the last little

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while here on the show. But the last couple of

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years of my life have been pretty tumultuous in several

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different ways which I'm not going to get into. But

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upon return from Sonocon twenty twenty three, which was the

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end of the year there, things just got super crazy

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and I wasn't able to get this interview tape up

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and clean up the audio and edit it down and

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already for release on the podcast, And then time got

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away from me. And then, as I have talked about

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here recently, I had some hard drive issues and thought

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I was going to lose all of my data and

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so it was just a big ordeal that caused a

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whole lot of delays with getting this audio out. But

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it is here now and I think it is worth

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listening to again. Had some great conversations with some attendees

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and exhibitors there at the event, and so in just

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a couple of minutes I'll be sharing those with you.

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But first I want to talk about the future of Sonicicon,

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the event itself that so many of us in the

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community have thoroughly enjoyed being a part of, and I

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know there are lots of you in the ATC community

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which are also interested in attending future events and we

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talked about it just recently in the feedback segment. Well,

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I'm going to be meeting with the organizers of Sonicicon

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very soon to talk about some options on what the

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event might look like in the future. Cannot go into

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any detail on that right now. However, I think it's

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pretty safe to say there will not be an event

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in twenty twenty five, but that doesn't mean it's going

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to go away. So if you have enjoyed Sonicon in

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the past and have been looking forward to it in

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the future, don't lose hope. And if it is really

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something you want to see, continue, I would say head

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over to the website Sonicdshcon dot org and reach out

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to them through the contact page and just let them

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know if you've been able to attend in the past,

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let them know what you loved about the event in

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the past, and if you haven't yet, let them know

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what you are looking forward to what you would like

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to see at future events. So that's where we are

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with Sonicon. But just because there isn't going to be

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one this year, there are still options. So if you

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are just a super fan of audio drama and you're

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looking for an event that has that vibe. Sonic Con

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was great at balancing content for super fans of audio

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drama and people looking to get into the creative side

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and produce their own audio dramas, and so it was

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sort of a hybrid event. So if you're a fan

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and you're looking for something, I would highly recommend looking

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into the Realm Maker's Expo which will be happening this

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year in July, and there is a link in the

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show notes to go check out that event. That will

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be a great, great event. There's actually going to be

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a big focus on audio drama this year, and I

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was talking with Scott, the organizer of that event recently,

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and he said there are several audio drama producers that

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have signed up to be exhibitors at this event. There

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will also be some live audio drama performances, which was

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one of the things that I know that many of

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the Soniccon attendees love getting to see people up on

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stage performing audio dramas live, super super cool, and so

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that's going to be happening at Realm Makers Expo this year.

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So that's an option for audio drama fans as well

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as creatives. Now for the people who are looking to

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get into the production side and wanting to learn more

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about that. Well, the Lamplader Guild, the Summer Guild, is

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still a great option that's also going to be happening

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this summer, and the link is in the show notes

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to check that out. Though I will say the Lamplader

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Guild has moved a little bit away from its original

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focus on audio drama. It is still a part of it,

482
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but they have expanded their class offerings and they cover

483
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,640
a whole lot more than just audio drama, a lot

484
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,519
of different creative and artistic disciplines. But that is still

485
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:37,519
an option. I know several people personally that I have

486
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,319
met and spoken to about the Lamplader Guild and how

487
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,359
impactful those sessions have been on their life and their

488
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,880
creative journeys. So that is still an option if you're

489
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,799
looking to get into production on audio dramas. And then,

490
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,759
of course, what I just mentioned in the updates segment,

491
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,000
the Audio Drama Institute, which is headed by John Fornoff,

492
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and he's working with some of the top creatives in

493
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,519
the space to begin offering these different avenues for people

494
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:08,799
to get into the space and learn from some of

495
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:11,640
the best in the biz. And so the Audio Drama

496
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,599
Institute has done a writer's focused session last year called

497
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:22,599
Writers Recharge. Right now, they're doing online classes teaching acting

498
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,559
for audio drama and it's John and Katie Lee doing those,

499
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,240
so there's options there. And then of course the big

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event that's coming this summer that I just talked about,

501
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,880
So again there are still options. Even though sonic Con

502
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,480
is sort of on hold right now, there are still

503
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:43,039
options for fans and creatives to get involved and either

504
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,440
learn more and also just to socialize with other people

505
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:52,279
in the space. So again, great options still available in

506
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,119
addition to what Sonic Coon offered. Now, with all that said,

507
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,599
let's jump into these interviews. And it was absolutely thrilled

508
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:06,359
to meet Tim Gregory, who is the head of the

509
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,039
Unshackled Audio Drama. We're going to talk about it in

510
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:14,279
the interview, but Unshackled is a trailblazer in the audio

511
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:18,359
drama space, not just family friendly audio drama, but just

512
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,039
some amazing, amazing content that Tim is involved in. And

513
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,880
I am excited to share this interview with you from

514
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the exhibition hall at Sonicon twenty twenty three. All right,

515
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,559
this is JD here on the exhibition hall floor at

516
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:38,880
the atc table and just happened to be right next

517
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,640
to the Unshackled booth and here with Timothy Gregory. And Timothy,

518
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:48,079
I've grown up listening to the show, and you've been

519
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,839
on the program for several years now, but can you

520
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,279
explain to the listener exactly what your title is, your

521
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:56,680
position Unshackled, and how long have you been there?

522
00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:00,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, first off, it's great to see you and

523
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:04,279
be at this wonderful event with you. I've been with

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00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,200
the show since nineteen ninety four. I started as an actor,

525
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,000
and then in two thousand and early twenty twelve, I

526
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,880
stepped in as the announcer and director of the episode,

527
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,279
and then in twenty sixteen I stepped in as program director.

528
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:23,559
Speaker 2: So I remember, you know, I don't listen to every

529
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,799
single episode, but I listened to them pretty frequently, and

530
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:28,960
I always just loved your voice and that they real

531
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,799
calm and I'm Timothy Gregory, and you know, I just

532
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,440
I loved the sound of it. And a couple of

533
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,000
years ago, I was listening to an audiobook and I

534
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,440
just kept thinking, this really sounds so familiar, and I'm like,

535
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:46,440
who is this? And then I looked at the narrator,

536
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,519
and I said Tim Gregory and it still didn't register

537
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:51,920
because you always say Timothy on Shackles. And then when

538
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,599
I finally made the connection, I was like, it's so cool.

539
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,559
It was a Hardy Boys book and I just love

540
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,039
that narration. So how long have you been doing audio books? Oh?

541
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: My goodness. I think I started doing audio books in

542
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:09,160
I want to say early two thousands, so probably about

543
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,920
twenty years. I've been doing audio books, The Hardy Boys,

544
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:18,599
Box Car Children, some of the Ted Decker books, Why

545
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,559
Wham Christian Heroes of the Faith.

546
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:26,279
Speaker 2: Do you have a preference view? Do you like audio

547
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:29,480
books more than audio drama or vice versa or the

548
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,400
pros and cons with each different medium.

549
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: That is a great question. I've never been asked that

550
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:38,079
question before. You know, I think for different reasons. I

551
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:44,119
like creating an audio in the audio book realm. You know,

552
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,839
you're kind of on your own. You're kind of coming

553
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,079
up with stuff yourself and hoping that it works for

554
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,200
the engineer. But you know what, and doing audio books

555
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:58,079
is exhausting, especially if it's a long book. Plus you're alone.

556
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,599
You're isolated. If you're a lone wolf, and you like

557
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,039
being by yourself. Audiobooks are great, but if you like

558
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:09,599
working with people and collaborating, then audio dramas are great.

559
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:14,480
And that's and I actually prefer collaborating and working alongside people,

560
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,559
which is what Unshackled affords me. It's we have great

561
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,720
professional actors out of Chicago. We have great staff, great

562
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:26,839
team musicians, live fully people, great engineer So I love

563
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,440
that process and being able to kind of jump in

564
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:34,279
together and create something or fix problems together, that sort

565
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:34,519
of thing.

566
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: So well, I know, Unshackled has been around for a

567
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:41,079
very long time, and we've corrected people in the past

568
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:43,480
who think that Odyssey is the longest running audio drama.

569
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,920
It is not. Unshackled is the longest continuously running show

570
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,680
in the world. Some in the UK dispute and say

571
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,240
it was the Archers, but you guys have been a

572
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,079
continuously continuously. They had a little bit of a break there,

573
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,079
so they started around the same time. But I'm still

574
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:01,960
going to give it to you guys.

575
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: So they had a break. When was their break It

576
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:05,759
was early on.

577
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,639
Speaker 2: In the run. It's been running continuously for many, many years,

578
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,599
but there was a break. They did a sort of

579
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,280
a pilot run of a few episodes and then there

580
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,880
was a break. But you guys have never had a break.

581
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,559
Speaker 1: We have never had a break. And we're exhausted. No,

582
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,440
we're not exhausted. We love doing it, but we have

583
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,840
never had a break. Since nineteen fifty September twenty third

584
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,480
of nineteen fifty, we have done a new show every

585
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:34,400
week and we're still going with God's grace and favor.

586
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,119
Speaker 2: How many thousands of episodes are you at right now?

587
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,320
Thirty five hundred or.

588
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:43,519
Speaker 1: Thirty three thousand, eight hundred and you see, I don't

589
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:46,000
even remember the number. There's so many three thy eight

590
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:50,159
hundred and something. I want to say, ten fifteen three

591
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:50,960
eight hundred.

592
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: Impressive. It's so amazing that you've had such a longevity

593
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:58,800
For the listener who doesn't know what Unshackled is. Can

594
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,400
you give a little elevator pitch for what the program covers?

595
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:05,079
Speaker 1: Yes, So we tell true stories of real people. People

596
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,800
share their testimony with us about how they came to

597
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,679
faith in Christ, and we condense it down into a

598
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,320
thirty minute audio drama. Hire professional actors to play all

599
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,480
the characters within their life. All the integral parts have

600
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,599
live sound effects or fully sound effects, and music, and

601
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,760
it's a thirty minute testimony dramatized.

602
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: And like I said, I've been listening for many, many years.

603
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:34,960
I don't intend to make you feel old or anything,

604
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,960
but I was listening when I was just a child.

605
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:40,360
You know, my parents would be listening. It would come

606
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,559
on in the late in the evening. It was probably

607
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:45,239
because sometimes the subject matter is not really intended for

608
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,239
young children, but it's true to life. It's real events

609
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,159
that people who have dealt with, you know, drug addiction

610
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,719
and abuse and all kinds of tough subjects. But you're

611
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,960
having an eight and nine year old kid sitting there

612
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,960
listening to these stories. But I was fascinating by them.

613
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,199
In fact, I don't know if you still do this,

614
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,480
but you used to offer little booklets to people. I

615
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,000
remember ordering a couple of those and devouring the stories

616
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:09,840
because I were always so fascinated by these real people

617
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,800
that faced real difficult things and they overcame.

618
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's one of the things that speaks

619
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:20,039
to the longevity of the show. I mean, aside from

620
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,320
God's grace and mercy and favor over the show. You know,

621
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,679
the show has been bathed in prayer and we stick

622
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,320
to the word of God. But the fact that they're

623
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,760
real stories. That is a compelling thing to hear someone's

624
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,039
real life testimony, but dramatized in the way it's you know,

625
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:44,440
it's not just relayed and narrated, it's actually performed, and

626
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,320
you know that's compelling. Sometimes we'll be in the studio

627
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,800
recording stuff and we're just overcome with emotion or you know,

628
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,440
it's powerful because you realize this actually happened. This moment

629
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,440
that we're recreating actually happen, and it's incredibly powerful.

630
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:07,639
Speaker 2: It really is, really is. Now forgive me for eavesdropping,

631
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:09,119
but our tables are right next to each other, and

632
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:14,280
I heard you telling somebody earlier something about getting some flackbirds,

633
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,719
trying to change up things, maybe update the program a

634
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,559
little bit. Can share that.

635
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, you really opened the door there too. So

636
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,079
this person came up to the table and I was

637
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:33,280
a young person and was not crazy about the organ music.

638
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 10: So we're just talking about that.

639
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: You know, there are different schools of thought about the

640
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:41,239
organ music. You know, some of our more mature audience

641
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,960
members they like the organ music, and some of the

642
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:47,760
younger folks not really crazy about it, not so much. Well,

643
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,360
I under I get it, I understand. So we're trying,

644
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,320
you know, we have so we have some episodes where

645
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,360
there are orchestrations, you know as the interstitial music, and

646
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,159
then we have some episodes where there's organ music. So

647
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:02,039
we're trying to give them a bit of both. But

648
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,360
it's the same song. It's just what instruments are you

649
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,000
going to have play? So you know, we have the organ.

650
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:10,760
The organ is actually what we use when we do

651
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,320
the show live on Saturdays in front of an audience.

652
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,679
It's the organ that Don Badorf sits up there and plays.

653
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,239
So if you really want to see the organ, I mean,

654
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,280
if you really love organ music, come to the show

655
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,920
on Saturday, the live performance.

656
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 2: Well that's the other thing too, that you guys still

657
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,119
do live productions, which is not which is very rare

658
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,800
these days. I mean blanking on the name of the

659
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:37,039
they change used to be Jim Fringe Productions up in Kirkland, Washington.

660
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:39,760
They still do productions that they have a new name

661
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,719
now and I'm sorry, I can't remember off the top

662
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,679
of my head, but they do live shows at the

663
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,599
Kirkland Performing Arts Center, and then you guys are doing it,

664
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:48,920
but I don't know if too many others on a

665
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:51,360
regular basis who are doing that. So it's kind of cool.

666
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,920
Brings that old classic feel. So that's how Audio Drummer

667
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,199
used to be done exclusively, and so it's kind of

668
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:02,400
kind of an interesting experience and I haven't experienced it

669
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,159
myself yet, but that's on my bucket list.

670
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's how the show started. The production

671
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,800
that was broadcast all over was actually a live performance

672
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,920
that was taped in front of an audience, and over

673
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,920
the past few years now we're now recording the show

674
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:21,119
in a studio and then doing that same show in

675
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,639
front of a live audience, just like we've always done

676
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:27,599
and we'll continue to do that. The show is different

677
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:33,159
in this the show is actually connected to a bigger ministry.

678
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,840
So you know, a lot of the audio dramas that

679
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,119
are out there, they kind of stand alone and they

680
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,880
have actors that are brought in to a studio or

681
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,239
work remotely and then they piece the show together. We're

682
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,920
connected to Pacific Garden Mission, which is a rescue mission

683
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,920
and which is why the show started in the first place,

684
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,800
because the superintendent of the mission had his own radio show,

685
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,199
had a fifteen minute show where he would just talk

686
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,679
about the people who came through the doors and the

687
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,000
come to know Christ. And so a buddy of his said, hey,

688
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,480
you're doing You're talking for fifteen minutes on the radio

689
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,079
telling people about these people that come through the doors.

690
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,079
Why don't you just dramatize these stories? And that's how

691
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,639
Unshackled was born. And so people would come to the

692
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,599
mission to either volunteer or visit the mission or go

693
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,960
on a tour, and then we just started doing the

694
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,480
show for them there. So it kind of serves a

695
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,239
double purposes. There's a meaning to it. You know, there's

696
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,920
a reason why we still do the live performance because

697
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,440
it's some it's part of something that's much bigger.

698
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful. And so speaking of PGM, you

699
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:41,559
recently are you know, within the last year or two

700
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:45,239
maybe sort of made a move into children's content with

701
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,239
the Clue Crew, And I would love to let you

702
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,840
talk to the audience a little bit about that and

703
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,079
what your mission is with that project and maybe some

704
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,039
of the people that you're working with on that, whatever

705
00:40:57,079 --> 00:40:57,639
you want to share.

706
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, Well, we did start a show about a

707
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,280
year and a half ago called The Clue Crew. As

708
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,280
you mentioned earlier, some of the Unshackled episodes have mature themes.

709
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:12,880
You know, you're dealing with some real life experiences that

710
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:16,519
people you know are rescued from are unshackled from, and

711
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:19,679
some of those experiences are very dark or they're you know,

712
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,000
you're dealing with mature themes, and it's not so that

713
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:25,000
the content is not always appropriate for kids, and so

714
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:29,679
we wanted to offer children something from Unshackled outside of

715
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,039
just the Unshackled episodes. So we thought of the Clue Crew,

716
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:37,079
which is based on it's actually the Clue Family, that's

717
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:40,920
their last name. It's for kids their parents died in

718
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,199
a plane crash. Their parents, who were missionaries in South America,

719
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:46,840
died in a plane crash. The kids are then taken

720
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,760
to Chicago and given to their uncle, who does not

721
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,880
have children and is single and doesn't know what to

722
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,440
do with them.

723
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: And that's not a spoiler that all happens in the

724
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,039
first episode.

725
00:41:57,679 --> 00:41:59,639
Speaker 1: It's right that all happens in the first episode. And

726
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,920
so it's the story follows these kids and they're particularly

727
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,280
good at solving mysteries. So every episode is based on

728
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,800
the Clue Children. The Clue Crew solving some type of mystery.

729
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,960
So it's faith friendly, family friendly, and there's always scripture

730
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:20,119
involved in biblical principles.

731
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: It's it's a really fun show and you've got some

732
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,599
great talent on their Amy Lilies involved too many people

733
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,960
know from Kids Corner for many years. She played the

734
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:33,079
Lizarardo on that show, and she's she's just a delight.

735
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,519
And do you record all of that on site there

736
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:36,960
as well?

737
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 6: We do.

738
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we record that right in our studio in Pacific

739
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Guard Mission.

740
00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:44,519
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Any plans to do live shows for that one.

741
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:47,079
Speaker 1: No, we've thought about it. I don't know that we're

742
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:50,119
there yet. I don't know that we have the I

743
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:51,920
don't know what that would look like, you know what

744
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,239
I mean. You know, your audience would consist of probably

745
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,199
mostly kids or young people, and so we have to

746
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,760
figure out where we would do that where there would

747
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,840
be maybe a facility and enough people there to warrant

748
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,280
doing a live performance. And maybe we'll get there someday,

749
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:10,679
but that would be fun.

750
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, I just want to thank you so much.

751
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,440
I was so glad when I heard that you were

752
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,079
going to be here, and I've we've talked to I

753
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:21,079
think we connected it two to three years ago now

754
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,840
and it just has not worked out to make our

755
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,360
schedules aligne and then I'd get busy with other things.

756
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,880
But I'm so so glad that I got to have

757
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,639
you on the show, and thank you for agreeing to

758
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:32,719
do it. And it was so wonderful to meet you.

759
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you as well, JD. It's a real pleasure. And

760
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,239
maybe we'll be back here next year, next right next

761
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,719
to each other.

762
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: There we go. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Again. Super excited

763
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:48,239
that I got to meet Timothy and hang out with him.

764
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:53,840
Just one of the most genuine and kind people I've

765
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,880
ever met. I was just super impressed with him. He's

766
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,159
an amazing voice talent himself, but also on the production

767
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,440
side running this show for so many years. And as

768
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,000
you heard, they've launched a kid's show as well, called

769
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:11,159
The Clue Crew. There are links in the show notes

770
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,239
to both Unshackled and The Clue Crew. Unshackled is now

771
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,400
at the time of this recording, over thirty eight hundred episodes.

772
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,880
It is free to stream on their website or podcast.

773
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,800
They're still aired on the radio around the world as well,

774
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:28,360
so lots of places for you to check out Unshackled,

775
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:31,760
and then The Clue Crew is also airing on radio

776
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,639
stations around the world, and it is also available for

777
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,159
purchase on the Clue Crew website, which again is linked

778
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:41,960
in the show notes. You can purchase them by individual

779
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:45,760
episodes or full seasons. But if you're not ready to

780
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:49,239
make that purchase yet, you can stream the pilot episode,

781
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,239
which is called The Case of the Missing Monkey. You

782
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,400
can stream that for free on the website to get

783
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,119
a sample of what the show is about. Again, this

784
00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:01,400
one's aimed at younger listeners. It's really fun, great cast

785
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:05,800
in this one, and they're just really fun mystery shows

786
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,400
for kids, and I highly encourage you to check them out.

787
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,519
Links are in the show notes. And thanks again to

788
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:15,079
Tim Gregory for taking the time to sit down and

789
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:19,760
have this conversation with me. Well. Next up is a

790
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,480
chat with actor Caleb Bresler, and ATC contributor Austin Peachee

791
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,960
had a chance to speak with him.

792
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 11: Hey, everybody, this is awesome.

793
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,639
Speaker 6: Peachee coming at you from sun Con twent twenty three

794
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,280
for ATC and with me, I have actor Caleb Bresler.

795
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,400
Welcome Caleb, Thanks good to be here. Well, it's so

796
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,480
great to talk to you. And for those that don't

797
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:41,440
know you were in King Jack a while back, you

798
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,559
when I talk about your role on that.

799
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: Sure, So I played the antagonist person so who was

800
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:50,599
named Harold. So he was basically the nasty the nasty

801
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:53,960
kid at the school who causes problems and kind of

802
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:56,199
throws challenges.

803
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,639
Speaker 2: At the main character.

804
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 10: So that's mainly what is his is.

805
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 3: But then of course you do learn that of course

806
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,199
he does have a backstory which explained some of some

807
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,800
of his behavior. Not that that excuses him, of course,

808
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,480
but you kind of get a little bit more insight

809
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:11,679
into the character that way.

810
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,079
Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure, So I think that was that your

811
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:15,440
first audio drama production.

812
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:15,639
Speaker 2: That you were in.

813
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: That was my first Lamplighter one some thing. If I

814
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,320
get any other ones before that, that might have been.

815
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,199
Speaker 10: Actually, yeah, so.

816
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 11: Have you landed any other roles since then that people

817
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:28,800
may recognize you in?

818
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 10: I was actually the Victim.

819
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: Digital just put out an audio drama last week, and yes,

820
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,599
I play a character called Basher in that and so

821
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,639
basically it's like an archaeological type of adventure story where

822
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:46,840
I'm one of the characters who's kind of a sidekicked

823
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,239
for the Archaeologist. So that's the Invicta Collectives that just

824
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,559
came out. I did done a number of different things.

825
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:56,320
I've worked with Sultwin Audios. I actually produced my own

826
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,519
Sherlock Holmes audio drama. Yeah, some different things like that.

827
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

828
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,679
Speaker 11: So this is your first time at Sonicon, right, Yes,

829
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,480
it is, so I'd be enjoying it.

830
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: So far.

831
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 10: The classes have been good, good.

832
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 3: It's some good information and interesting to hear from some

833
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,199
people who you know, were like Paul McCusker and Phil Lawler,

834
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:17,440
who of course I've listened to honestly for for years,

835
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:19,400
so of course I knew their name. So it's interesting

836
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,639
to actually get to see them in person and hear

837
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:25,280
them talking in person and you know, getting getting tidbits

838
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,960
and stuff like that.

839
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:28,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, awesome. It's been a lot of fun and also

840
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:31,480
again into network with people. So any face down here

841
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,280
that you're surprised to see that you have to meet

842
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,199
me here recently.

843
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:37,639
Speaker 3: I don't think necessarily surprised to see. I obviously some

844
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,880
people because a lot of the stuff is online. You

845
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,280
know people's names, and I've spoken with people kind of

846
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,480
via email, so it's kind of nice to be able

847
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:46,239
to meet people in person, because you know, it's just

848
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,079
a little bit different when you're meeting someone in person

849
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:50,519
versus everything's digitally done.

850
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure.

851
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 6: Well, thank you so much, Caleb, and I hope you

852
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,960
have a continue to get enjoy your say a sonicon.

853
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,159
Thanks thanks for talking with me all right, and this

854
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,159
is Austin signing off.

855
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: If you would like to hear more from Caleb, you

856
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,440
can go check out ADC one seventy three where I

857
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:11,119
talked quite a bit more in depth with him about

858
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:15,320
his role in Lamplider Theaters King Jack. So that episode

859
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,719
is linked in the show notes. Also linked up is

860
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,239
Caleb's website. He's a great voice actor if you'd like

861
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,960
to hire him for a project that you are working on,

862
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:26,320
that is linked in the show notes, as well as

863
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,800
the Sherlock Holmes audio drama that he mentioned and a

864
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,480
new project that we've talked about here in recent episodes.

865
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,320
He's teamed up with LRT Media to produce a new

866
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,159
show called He Vanished below that is also linked up

867
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:43,480
in the show notes as well. Thank you Caleb for

868
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,480
sitting down with Austin for this interview. Next up is

869
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:51,159
another great actor you've heard us talk about him before.

870
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,159
He's been in all kinds of cool audio dramas in

871
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:57,840
the last handful of years. Jake Phillips and Austin also

872
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,760
had a chance to chat with him. So I'm going

873
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,679
to roll that tape now.

874
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 6: Hello there, everybody, This is awesome Peache coming to you

875
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,239
from Sonicon twenty twenty three, and I have Jake Phillips

876
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,599
here with me.

877
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 4: Hello, Jake, Hey, Austin. How's it going do you?

878
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,679
Speaker 11: And Gray? How are you enjoying sonecon so far?

879
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,639
Speaker 4: I'm really enjoying it. It's my first time.

880
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 12: Had some great classes, great loved the ATC Live episode

881
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:21,840
last night that was awesome.

882
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, having a great time.

883
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 11: So you've been some of the classes right this morning?

884
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 12: I went to John Thornoff Art of the Start, and

885
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:32,119
then Paul McCusker with Fundamentals of Dialogue.

886
00:49:32,639 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 11: Awesome.

887
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,599
Speaker 6: So people may know you from some of your roles

888
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:38,400
in lap Player with Theater and from Witnesses. We'll tell

889
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,880
us about some of your more recent roles that you've

890
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,360
been in right now.

891
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, So I was in ed Vinum six, I play

892
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,119
Jeffa So that one just came out. So that was

893
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,239
I guess we recorded it last spring, but that's probably

894
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,480
the most recent thing to come out. But yeah, I've

895
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:55,679
been as far as Lamplighter. I've been in quicksand My

896
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,960
Golden Ship and The Hidden Hand Let's see. Yeah, witnesses

897
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:05,719
that play a smattering of characters, one of the main

898
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,760
ones being a rufous that's centurion.

899
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate that.

900
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 12: That was a great I tend to be cast as

901
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:18,599
villains and biblical things, but I you know, my thought

902
00:50:18,679 --> 00:50:21,280
process is, you know, if I can help make you

903
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,800
think of you know, Jesus waited for us, I'll be

904
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,760
as bad as you need me to be. So because that,

905
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:31,599
I just love Tracy's I mean everything she did, the writing,

906
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,599
sound design, the other actors in it, you know, Daniel

907
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:41,360
and Andy like last night Nato amazing, amazing actors on that.

908
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 11: Yeah for sure. So you also have a podcast you

909
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,880
want to tell our listeners about that?

910
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

911
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 12: So I have a podcast called The Cultured Bumpkin, and

912
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,519
it's also I've just started putting it on.

913
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: YouTube as well.

914
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 12: So it's mostly audio stuff or me doing Shakespeare monologues

915
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,679
in a Southern accents. Mostly what that is My goal

916
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,920
is to just make literature more accessible to people because

917
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,760
a lot of there's some great writing that nobody ever

918
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:13,800
talks about anymore because nobody, I don't know, nobody talks

919
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,079
about it.

920
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:15,199
Speaker 4: So I'm talking about it.

921
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 12: And I'm not a literary analyst, so I don't really

922
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,599
do too much analysis. I sort of introduce it and

923
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:25,840
then just get right to it. And you know, my

924
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,239
goal is to as the voice actor, just give you

925
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:34,400
an audiobook experience with the Ransom of Red Chief by

926
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,679
O Henry or the Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County

927
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,119
by Mark Twain. That those good classic stories not necessarily American,

928
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:46,159
but most of them tend to be American or British

929
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,360
or English if it's earlier, let's say poetry, but yeah, poetry,

930
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:54,280
short stories. And then one of my favorite authors is

931
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,079
Jane Austin. I love Pride and Prejudice, and there are

932
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:03,599
a lot of similarity between American, Southern and English.

933
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: It fits very well.

934
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 12: They're very closely related, more so than other American accents,

935
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,000
I think. So I'm doing a audiobook version right now.

936
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 4: It's on my YouTube.

937
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,199
Speaker 12: What I've done so far in and Prejudice and Magnoia,

938
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:19,079
as I call it, just a Southern version of very

939
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:23,639
antebellum sound, and I guess you know, retelling that not

940
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:25,800
changing any of the words, but just in a different

941
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,159
accent and just it's a different experience and it's fun.

942
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:31,440
But yeah, the Cultured Bumpkin, and it's on pretty much

943
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,079
anywhere you get podcasts and then on YouTube, and you

944
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:34,400
have some.

945
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,599
Speaker 11: Of those recordings as audiobook form, don't you.

946
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,559
Speaker 12: Right, some of them will be on on like audible

947
00:52:41,679 --> 00:52:44,679
or Libra FM stuff like that. Why pay for it

948
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,440
if you can get it free, is what I always say. So,

949
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,599
I mean you can get the same things on YouTube

950
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:50,360
or podcast.

951
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, if people want to support what you're doing,

952
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:55,360
they can go buy that by those audiobooks and also

953
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,519
share your podcast with everybody.

954
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 11: Thanks so much for taking some time to do this interview.

955
00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:01,639
Speaker 4: Jake, absolutely, thank you. Awesome, You're welcome.

956
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,199
Speaker 11: All right, this is Austin signing off.

957
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: Jake is such a cool guy. He is a fantastic

958
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:15,280
voice talent and just a super genuine nice guy. And

959
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:19,480
the podcast that he mentioned, The Cultured Bumpkin, he goes

960
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:25,760
into classic literature and lots of poetry, and if you're

961
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,480
a fan of classical lit and the classic poets like

962
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:33,800
Whitman and Dickinson and oh my goodness, so many others.

963
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,960
You'll definitely want to check out his podcast. And he

964
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:41,079
actually had me on the show a while back, and

965
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:42,840
so I got to chat with him a little bit

966
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:46,360
about ATC and voice work, and I get to perform

967
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,519
a poem on the show as well. So that episode

968
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:52,840
in particular is linked in the show notes, and I

969
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,559
think you'll want to check that out. And also Jake's

970
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,280
voiceover website if you are looking for voice talent, that

971
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,039
is also linked in the show notes. So thank you

972
00:54:01,159 --> 00:54:06,400
Jake very much for taking time to come on ATC. Well,

973
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,719
our final interview from Sonicicon twenty twenty three is with

974
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,000
Colton Grellier and you may not have heard his name before,

975
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:18,079
but you will find out here in just a moment

976
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:20,280
why I thought it was important to have him on

977
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:22,920
the show. So I was able to sit down and

978
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,360
talk with Colton. Here is that audio. Now, Well, this

979
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,480
is JD here on the exhibition floor and I'm losing

980
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:31,639
my voice here, but we're gon We're gonna push ahead,

981
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:34,079
and we're at the ATC booth and I've got Colton

982
00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:37,360
Grellier with me, and you know, it may not be

983
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:39,519
a name that's super familiar to many of you in

984
00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:43,760
our audience, but you should know this man because he

985
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:48,400
is one of the instigators. Is that a negative word

986
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:51,360
and I don't mean it that way, but he's responsible

987
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,079
in a large part for Sonicon even being a thing.

988
00:54:54,119 --> 00:54:56,119
So can you tell us a little bit about how

989
00:54:56,199 --> 00:54:56,800
that happened?

990
00:54:57,559 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 10: Thank you, jd Well.

991
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 7: It basically, Soniccon was born out of the Encounter, which

992
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,280
is The Encounter is a show that you've talked about

993
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,280
on your show. It's kind of Liberty University's primary audio

994
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,400
drama at the moment. Really, that's kind of where they

995
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,159
in that space. And it was really after a writer's

996
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,280
meeting for one of the seasons. I went back to

997
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,920
my job at the time at the law library here

998
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:24,199
and I was just so pumped after that writer's meeting,

999
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,119
I'm like, I don't really want to do like any

1000
00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:26,800
homework I want to do.

1001
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 10: I want to be like, I want to see stuff

1002
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,880
more for the show. I remember at the time Comic

1003
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,679
Con was going on. I just saw an ad for it.

1004
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,119
Speaker 7: I thought, wait a minute, is there like a con

1005
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,760
for audio drama? And I was looking up and I'm

1006
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,519
like I wasn't really finding anything or like anything big.

1007
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:43,920
I'm like, wait a minute, we're at Liberty, Like, why are.

1008
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 10: We doing something like this.

1009
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 7: I immediately whipped up like a like like a five

1010
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:49,760
paragraph email to like.

1011
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 10: Okay, Professor Nel said, hear me out, just.

1012
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 7: Just roll with me for a little bit and just

1013
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,719
kind of a rough outline of what a convention for

1014
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,800
audio drama could be. And then Professor Nelson was both

1015
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,480
generous and crazy enough to want to run with.

1016
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:09,199
Speaker 2: That idea, and I for one am super thankful that

1017
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:12,639
he did, and thank you for having the wherewith all

1018
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,079
the gumption to say, hey, I've got this idea, roll

1019
00:56:16,159 --> 00:56:16,599
with me here.

1020
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 7: One of the few times my ADHD distractability is coming handy.

1021
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: So you've been at every one of the events and

1022
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:27,519
you've performed. I can't remember if you did see anything

1023
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:29,000
on the on the first year or was there a

1024
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,599
live encounter the first year. I know you did broadcast

1025
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:32,960
Babylon the last time.

1026
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,679
Speaker 1: Yes, on the first year.

1027
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 10: I'm oh, man, it a few years ago.

1028
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,599
Speaker 7: Blake and everything that I think was in the middle

1029
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:42,320
of COVID as well for the first one. I was

1030
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,719
part of the encounter panel as well for part of

1031
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,519
as one of the writers on that. I'm trying to

1032
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:50,320
remember if I was a part of that some kind

1033
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,280
of new work there, I can't quite remember. I think

1034
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,079
I was helping a lot backstage as well. But no,

1035
00:56:55,199 --> 00:56:59,760
the second year doing a show called Broadcast Babylon for

1036
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,800
the new works is kind of my main thing at

1037
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,440
that point. And then this year I'm actually here now

1038
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:07,280
with my own studio and everything, and I'm just just

1039
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:10,559
extremely happy to just just be back and like see

1040
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:11,920
a lot of friends I've not seen in a while.

1041
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we've mentioned Sounding Fury Entertainment on the

1042
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,760
previous episode here, but tell us a little bit about

1043
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:21,960
what you're doing there and the new show that you've

1044
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,440
premiered at the event here.

1045
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:24,079
Speaker 1: Oh.

1046
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:25,199
Speaker 10: Absolutely, So.

1047
00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 7: Our first show for Sound and Fury Entertainment is called

1048
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,360
Root Sticks, kind of a pun on Root sixty six

1049
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,119
and of the river Sticks from Greek mythology. The basic

1050
00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:38,679
gist of the show is the Twilight Zone meets the

1051
00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:40,880
Great American Road Trip, where every episode is a ghost

1052
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,320
story in a vehicle, and it's kind of a loose

1053
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,599
anthology where every time people are going to stop at

1054
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:48,000
this gas station pay for gas and everything but when

1055
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:50,039
they get back on the road, hey, you never know

1056
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:52,079
who might be joining them in the car and everything,

1057
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,159
and having a way of kind of a spooky ghost

1058
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:58,719
story every episode, but without it getting too dark or creepy,

1059
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,840
but still being able to talk about stuff that kind

1060
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,159
of the supernatural ghost story allows a way to talk

1061
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:08,320
about certain conversations and things that like that John to

1062
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,559
really endears towards those kind of stories.

1063
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,159
Speaker 2: So could you share maybe some of the talent that

1064
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,039
you have lined up for this show and maybe when

1065
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:20,400
we can expect to hear some content out for the public.

1066
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,039
Speaker 4: We have a lot of.

1067
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 10: Talent on the show.

1068
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,559
Speaker 7: We have Mercury Glavin, who was the voice of Violet

1069
00:58:27,679 --> 00:58:30,559
in seasons one and two of The Encounter, who is

1070
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,440
also my girlfriend we actually met because of The Encounter

1071
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:38,559
and Sonicicon both she is voicing Orlely in season one.

1072
00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:42,480
We also have Joshua Prentiss who is a voice in

1073
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:48,000
the Encounter and also Chicken Skid with Jonathan Winstead Savage Waking,

1074
00:58:48,599 --> 00:58:51,880
a lot of other audio dramas that he's been active in,

1075
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:55,239
and also a lot of new faces, surprisingly, a lot

1076
00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:00,320
of incredibly talented freshmen like Maya Pal, Christopher deary who

1077
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,000
are doing two main characters.

1078
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,199
Speaker 10: I'm blown away, like.

1079
00:59:04,639 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 7: When I was in booth with them, like, is this

1080
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:08,000
your first time doing a voice acting gig?

1081
00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 10: Like, yeah, we think it'd be fun. Blown away. So

1082
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,199
just I'm really happy for that.

1083
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 7: As for when you might be able to hear some

1084
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,199
of Rootsticks, we have just released our trailer, so if

1085
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:22,679
you want to go to Sound and Fury Entertainment either

1086
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,880
on Facebook, Instagram, or Patreon, you'll be able to hear

1087
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,199
the season one trailer.

1088
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 10: And we are.

1089
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 7: Expecting to release sometime i'd say in the middle of

1090
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,119
spring twenty twenty four, middle or end of spring of

1091
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:36,960
twenty twenty four.

1092
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:40,559
Speaker 2: That's exciting. So and I know you had other projects

1093
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:43,079
that you've been working on, but this is the first

1094
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:45,000
one that's kind of going to go to market. So

1095
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:47,119
congratulations on that effort.

1096
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:50,079
Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Jady, and hopefully this is only

1097
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:52,639
the first of many. God willing. As long as I

1098
00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:53,840
can go, I'm gonna keep running.

1099
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,119
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for taking the time. I've

1100
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:57,920
wanted to do this every year. We finally made it

1101
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:58,559
happen this year.

1102
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 10: Hey, third times that you third times of jar Thank

1103
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,360
you so much. Thank you so much, Jady.

1104
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:09,119
Speaker 2: So after multiple years of wanting to make this interview happen,

1105
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,719
we finally had a chance to do it. So glad

1106
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,960
that Colton had the time to chat with me and

1107
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:17,719
come on the show. A couple of updates since this recording.

1108
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,880
Mercury is no longer his girlfriend. She's now his wife,

1109
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:25,320
so congrats to them. And now about the show that

1110
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,400
he was talking about, his production company, Sound in Fury

1111
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:33,239
Entertainment is still working on root Sticks, and he let

1112
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,039
me know that they are ninety five percent done with

1113
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:39,519
season one and they're looking to premiere the show sometime

1114
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:42,280
in June, so coming up very very soon, just a

1115
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,440
few weeks away. And he said they've also wrapped up

1116
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,519
principal recording of season two just about a month ago,

1117
01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:52,639
and they're already working on scripts for season three. So

1118
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,239
that show is going strong and will be launched very

1119
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,280
very soon. Links to Sound in Fury Entertainment and to

1120
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:02,119
all the stuff that Colton's got going on is in

1121
01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:04,800
the show notes, so if that show sounded interesting to you,

1122
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,199
you can definitely check it out. Well. Thank you again

1123
01:01:09,239 --> 01:01:12,639
to Timothy, Caleb, Jake, and Colton for taking time at

1124
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,000
Soniccon twenty twenty three to talk to us for ATC,

1125
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:22,960
and I apologize for the extreme delay in airing these interviews,

1126
01:01:23,519 --> 01:01:27,840
but it's still timely information. All four of these folks

1127
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,880
are still active in the space and they had some

1128
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:35,400
valuable things to share with you, So I'm glad that

1129
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,480
we were able to get these out to you. And

1130
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:40,000
of course thanks to Austin for conducting a couple of

1131
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:44,400
those interviews and just generally helping out all throughout the

1132
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,079
event with ATC related stuff, manning the booth with me

1133
01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:51,119
and hosting the live podcast we did at the event.

1134
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,719
So just a huge help to me there, So thank

1135
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,079
you Austin. So what do you think of the show?

1136
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,239
Speaker 8: Please leave your message after the Zelle hi Audi Theater Central.

1137
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: Hey guys, this is awesome PG.

1138
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,519
Speaker 4: Hell about j d Roy.

1139
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: Andrew Minum is Victorian.

1140
01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 4: Now, yesterday I received a letter from a big band.

1141
01:02:14,199 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 11: No time to joy, I've got an email list another

1142
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:18,480
package for me today, No.

1143
01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: Actually, just your mail. Well, we've got a couple of

1144
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,400
bits of feedback regarding ATC two ten, where we shared

1145
01:02:28,719 --> 01:02:33,880
the news about AIO getting rid of CDs and digital downloads.

1146
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,480
If you didn't hear that link is in the show

1147
01:02:36,519 --> 01:02:39,559
notes to go check that out. But if you have

1148
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:43,159
some information or some feedback for us here at ATC,

1149
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:46,519
you can always email us feedback at Audio Theatercentral dot com,

1150
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,440
comment on the show notes, or give us a call

1151
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:51,599
or send a text to our feedback line which is

1152
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:55,679
six two three six eight eight two seven seven zero

1153
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:02,760
again six two three six eight eight two seven seven zero. Well,

1154
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,960
the first bit of feedback is from Grayson and he said,

1155
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,159
I agree that not being able to own albums is

1156
01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:10,960
a downside to getting rid of CDs, but I understand

1157
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,480
the reason why they are doing that. But what I

1158
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:15,599
don't get is that they might not be airing new

1159
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:18,199
episodes on the radio anymore because I listened to the

1160
01:03:18,239 --> 01:03:20,719
newest episodes on the radio. I own most of the

1161
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,920
albums on CD, except for the most recent ones. But

1162
01:03:24,199 --> 01:03:26,800
unlike you, even if I own them digitally, I wouldn't

1163
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,000
want to mix AIO episodes with other shows because that

1164
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,159
sounds like you would be confusing to tell which show

1165
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:36,360
you're listening to. Well, to address that last point, first,

1166
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,480
most audio dramas have an intro to their show, which

1167
01:03:41,519 --> 01:03:43,320
either says the name of the show or has some

1168
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,880
recognizable theme so it's not that different from making a

1169
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:52,079
playlist of songs from different albums. If it's music that

1170
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:55,239
you're familiar with and you know the artists, it doesn't

1171
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,400
really matter that it's mixed in with music from other

1172
01:03:57,519 --> 01:04:00,559
artists or different albums. So the same with audio dramas.

1173
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:03,239
It's just something like I might put together a playlist

1174
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,320
of Christmas related episodes, or sometimes I just want to

1175
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,119
listen to a couple of different shows back to back,

1176
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:11,840
and so I'll just drop several of them in the queue,

1177
01:04:12,239 --> 01:04:14,519
so I might have an AIO episode in there with

1178
01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:16,880
something else. So that's just how I listen to them,

1179
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:20,599
which is just one of the benefits of having and

1180
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,840
owning your own copies. It's not like the main focus

1181
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:27,840
for me personally. The main thing for me is about

1182
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:32,920
ownership of the content and not having to perpetually rent access.

1183
01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:36,880
So that's the big thing for me personally. And I

1184
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,199
know that you know, not everybody would consume content in

1185
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,920
that manner. I was just using that as an example

1186
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,559
in that episode for how I consume personally. One of

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the perks of being able to add all my content

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into my own media library. And to your first point

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about radio, yes, that is an interesting thing. So I know,

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as I said in that episode, there still trying to

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figure out all of that what the future of radio

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distribution will look like for AIO, But it did seem

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like there was the potential that the radio calendar would

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sort of just rotate through these first thousand ish episodes

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and not have new ones added into the rotation. That's

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just something they're considering. So if you have feedback on

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this that you want to let them know, definitely reach

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out to Focus and let them know and give your

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thoughts on what they're trying to figure out here for

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the future of the show. So thank you so much

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Grayson for the feedback, and Robert said, whoa, thanks for

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covering this news. The CDs going away is not shocking,

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but as you said, a bit sad. It's getting harder

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to actually own anything these days and streaming and subscriptions

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are taking over the entertainment world. Hoping that this benefits

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their storytelling with the flexible schedule, and yes, that is

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the huge positive, and I hope I made that clear

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in that episode. There is a big positive to the

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change in the schedule allows them to have a little

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bit more flexibility in what they can cover, how quickly

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they can release episodes, they don't have to try to

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wedge it into a timeslot format and that kind of thing.

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So I like that, being able to maybe even release

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multiple episodes in a single month, so that sort of stuff. Cool.

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Love that. Again, not to beat a dead horse here,

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but my main concern with this whole change is losing

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the ownership option, and that is, even if CDs have

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to go away, still having the option to purchase a

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digital copy, even if it's a year after the fact,

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you know, everything hits the website first, and then at

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the end of the year, maybe they offer a twenty

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four episode bundle that you can purchase for download. And

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even if I don't remember if I mentioned this in

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that episode or not, but even if if they pull

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from all the other distribution outlets, the online retailers like

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Apple Music or Christian Book Distributors or Amazon or whatever

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wherever else they're currently distributing digital copies of the albums,

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even if they pull it from all of those and

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they only exclusively offer a download sale through the Focus

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on the Family store, And I'm totally cool with that too,

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you know, just I want to be able to own copies.

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That's the big thing for me. So thank you Robert

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for the feedback, really appreciate it. And our last bit

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of feedback is from Samuel, and he said, I agree

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about the digital download option. I don't even think there's

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an issue with continuing to release first on the club

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like they've been doing with current albums, but to take

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away the option for non club members to even enjoy

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the newer episodes, I'm concerned that will be an overall negative.

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And yes, Samuel, I totally agree with that, as you

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can tell from my response to Robert's comment. So I

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don't want to repeat myself too much here, but the

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consensus in the feedback that I received on that episode

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was everybody was saying, why are they removing the option

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to purchase digital copies? And there was a lot of

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extremely negative feedback online in some of the communities, and

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I don't want to go into all of that, but

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there were some, let's just say, tempers flared in some instances,

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and there was a lot of strong opinions. And I

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get it. I get it when you come to love

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a thing so much, you know, if you've followed Odyssey

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01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,520
for years and years and years, the fact or the

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idea of the thought, the potentiality of losing it. Potentially,

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it can cause some strong feelings and I totally get that.

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I understand, and again I recommend reaching out to Focus.

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Let your voice be heard, let them know, but do

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it with kindness and with love and with grace, because

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there are human beings on the other side of that

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email that you send, and so you know, make sure

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you're doing it with the proper attitude. And I'm not

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directing this comment at Samuel or Robert or Grayson particularly,

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just anybody and everybody you know. Let your voice be heard, absolutely,

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01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:32,479
of course, but do it with love. So anyway, there

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was a lot of feedback regarding this announcement, and honestly,

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for the most part, I agreed with what most people

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were saying, and I personally would love to see Focus

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revisit and reevaluate that decision to get rid of the

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digital download option. I understand their reasons for why they're

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trying to steer people to the club. I get it,

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but as I outlined in episode two ten, I personally

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think it's not the most consumer friendly decision. So I

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think I've said enough about this topic. But I did

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want to address some of these prominent pieces of feedback

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from you in the ATC community. So thank you Robert

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Grayson and Samuel. And again, if you missed that episode

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and you hadn't heard the news, go listen to it.

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And then if you feel strongly one way or the

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other on these issues, let's focus on the family. No,

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all right, Well that's going to do it for this episode.

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at audio Theatercentral dot com Slash two thirteen. I will

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see you next time. Thank you so much for listening.

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