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Speaker 1: You are now listening to soft Core History.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Softcore History. It is

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officially the last week on the main feed about Spooky Moth.

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Speaker 3: I'm aa sad ghosts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, goes just how the schedule works. Yeah, halloweens on

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a Friday, So we got.

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Speaker 3: Two more Patreon episodes for Spooky mod we do, but

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on the.

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Speaker 2: Main mains we kind of get the short end of

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the stick.

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Speaker 3: To get shafted. Yeah, kind of get shafted on the

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main for Spooky Month this year.

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Speaker 2: But we figured we bring in a heavy hitter, your favorite,

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our favorite, our favorite. But I mean people honestly come

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to Softcore History for Jack Mandeville.

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Speaker 4: Well you know, look, I'm I'm probably in your top

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five biggest fans for one, and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Still mind blowing to me.

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Speaker 4: But I've listened to two episodes in the last two days.

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I was listening one on the way up here. And

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the reason why I'm segregated on the couch all the

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way over here is although every my underwear and socks

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and clothes are clean, I haven't bathed in three or

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four days, So as a just in case, I'm keeping

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distance because I respect your fellows so much.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's okay, I'm pretty stinky right now. I have

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a huge crash underneath my armpits right now from a

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new deodorant.

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Speaker 3: Well, just call us the stink Boys, because I spent

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the entire morning standing next to bison and cows pissing

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in the MUDs. So yeah, yeah, they smelled horrible. I

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was actually by how bad these animals smelled.

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 3: It couldn't have been a normal petting zoo situation.

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Speaker 4: Like going into Riverside, California.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was gnarly. And I did actually see a

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cow get a red rocket today.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, it was capable of getting red rocket.

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Speaker 3: Dude, it was peeking out. He's excited because someone was

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feeding it.

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Speaker 2: I guess I've never seen a cow's penis.

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Speaker 4: I would imagine they're reasonably sized, right, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was just poking.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it was just poking.

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Speaker 2: But they hook in like a dog.

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Speaker 3: I don't I couldn't tell you. I have seen I

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have seen zebra's fuck at the zoo before, and that

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thing is like a ten foot like jet black day.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, any horse species is blessed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thankfully, though we all smell so maybe it

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gives off fumes of garlic.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think I think I know where you're going

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with this. Were Wolves, Yeah, definitely wear wolves. Yeah, everyone knows.

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In order to ward off the were wolves, it's garlic,

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cloves of garlic.

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Speaker 4: You know what I learned from one of the episodes

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of Salt, which is now I'm going around telling everybody,

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but I learned it on your show.

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Speaker 3: Was that's a dicey proposition would go on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the brothers grim that they weren't. They didn't write

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those stories. They were just documenting things that had been

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around for thousands of years. Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: They wrote down. Huh, they just wrote it down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Books back then they just wrote stories down and took

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the credit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of that in maybe more

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so ancient history than medieval history.

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Speaker 2: The art of war. Yeah yeah, but like if your

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enemy makes a mistake.

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Speaker 3: There's like stories so wise yeah, incredible, But there's stories

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in ancient Greece, for example, that had been going around, right,

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there's a oral tradition and then some asshole like Homer

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or someone just wrote it down. Yeah, and then they're like, oh,

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Homer I don't know if Homer's specifically, but there are

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people who get credited as authors who are really just documenters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, all they were doing is just they were

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one of five people in the country that could write.

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Speaker 2: So Robert, it's not werewolves today we're talking about it's

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one of the earliest documented vampire events in European history.

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Speaker 4: Let me guess Eastern Europe. Of course, it's always Eastern Europe.

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We're going to Serbia today.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, Well, there's always blood being let in Serbia,

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so the vampire would do well there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they're really good at killing each other out there.

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Speaker 3: I would I would be. I gotta say. You know

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who wouldn't be the worst count Dracula for Halloween is

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Nikola Jokic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You know what do you think He's the type

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of person when that NBA career starts winding down, they're

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gonna want to you know, that's an NBA big time

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NBA names have a great history of appearing in movies.

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Speaker 3: Jabbar, you'll never see him again?

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Speaker 4: No, you that farm?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's going to be racing his horses.

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Speaker 4: Are Serbians? Is that one of the Are they? Are?

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They Muslim? In that country.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, they're Bosnians. They committed genocide against the Muslims.

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Speaker 4: That's right, okay. I you know what, can I go

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into a little story here. Always, I don't have a

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lot of regrets, and I pretty much say yes to everything.

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We were talking about that right before we started the show.

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I just say yes when I'm offered any type of

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acting part.

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Speaker 2: That's how we got you here, dude.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm I'm again. I'm like probably your

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fourth or fifth biggest fan other than you know you

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guys one and two. Anyways, I uh, I did brown

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face one time for a role and I didn't feel

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comfortable at the time, and I was trying to explain

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to the the director would not He was insistent on

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it that because I was playing a Muslim terrorist, and

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I had to keep in mind him like, there's a

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lot of white Muslims in the world. You don't have

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to paint me brown. Yeah, I could just be a

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white Muslim. And also, I'm like race at certain times,

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I'm racially ambiguous enough to where I could pull off

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a light skinned Arab if I wanted to. You canot

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having to do the.

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Speaker 3: Face paint Albanian, right, now yes, yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Now, depending on the length of my beard, I will

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get pull over to the side at the airport, Yes.

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Speaker 3: As a like a Georgian or what is what's.

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Speaker 2: Especially if I, you know, shaved the mustache, should do

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that before I go on my.

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Speaker 4: Next tripify white hat, yeah, the habib pat Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Today though, we're talking about a man by the name

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of Peter Blakovich. I don't even know if that's really

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how you pronounce it.

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Speaker 4: That sounds like a Serbian soccer player that lives today is.

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Speaker 2: Going to refer to him as Pete?

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Speaker 3: Is that is that? Bgoyevitch like the Illinois governor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, could be not familiar with local Illinois politics.

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Speaker 3: He was the one who went to jail for trying

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to sell ab He was.

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Speaker 4: One of many yeah yeah, yeah, Illinois governors that have

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gone to jail.

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Speaker 2: So you pronounced it right, then, I think it's yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then and then Trump loved him for whatever reason.

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It's I don't think Trump's thing is whether you're a

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Republican or a Democrat. It's if you're at his level,

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and old Boyevich was kind kind of at a Trump level.

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Speaker 3: He straight upset in a phone call He's like, this

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thing isn't good getting given away for free? About the

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Senate seat. Yeah, he's like, I've just given this away.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is an eighteenth century relative of his.

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Speaker 3: Could it legitimately could be.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: He's a farmer who lived in a small village on

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the outskirts of the Habsburg Empire in what is modern

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day Serbia. His life, like many farmers of the early

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eighteenth century, was fairly unremarkable. He was married, he had kids,

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and was well known and liked in his small community.

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The village was surrounded by a dense forest, which contributed

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to a sense of isolation from the rest of the world,

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and villagers primarily relied on each other for survival. And

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this is at a time where it was both the

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Habsburgs and the Ottoman Empire kind of battling the area.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just like the front lines of the

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Last Holy War.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy that Habsburg family went all the way to

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the Russian border and then all the way to Portugal, pretty.

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Speaker 2: Much on the Austrians.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I think the last remnants of them were

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Speaker 3: There, because I think they died off in Spain with that.

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Speaker 4: Charles, Yeah, yeah, Charles's on the monitor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, we did. Yeah that was yours, I believe.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, just talking about everything wrong with him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You know what's funny is I tried researching him

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for one of my own episodes, and I wanted to

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start off with the family line, and it was so

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complicated I just gave up.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've definitely gotten to topics like that where

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I'm like, this is too complex.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's way too much incest in his family.

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Speaker 3: That's why we we've said before on the show. I guess.

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I'm sure you've heard. I guess because you're I think

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you're our biggest fan. But uh, just like not enough

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credit gets given to Egypt for having a thousand year,

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thousands of year empire with inbreeding that would make the

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Habsburg's blood.

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Speaker 4: The Ptolemy the last one, specifically the Potolnac line. Yeah.

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People don't realize how inbred Cleopatra was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she her.

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Speaker 4: Brother before she got before the Romans showed up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what that mouth do, no, but that.

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Speaker 3: She learned on her brother. Everything she did to caese

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her she learned on her brother.

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Speaker 4: Nancy Reagan mouth she had Nancy Reagan mouth. Dude, they

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didn't know about Nancy Reagan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think people that don't even pay attention to

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history know that factoid.

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Speaker 4: But because that broke what maybe five years ago, somebody

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wrote a book that like, oh yeah everyone in hollywoodknew

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Nancy Reagan sucked a dick.

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Speaker 3: Good for ron.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then she's like whispering in your ear about

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getting rid of drugs. Yeah yeah, and then Pillow talks

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just bad. That postnut clarity is like, all right, get

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out on my bed, Nancy.

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Speaker 4: And he she'd definitely blown every single one of Reagan's

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bosses when he worked in.

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Speaker 3: Hollywood, bosses, buddies, yeah, everything. But you know what, I

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think you should marry a whore. I think you're gonna

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have a happy life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as she ye, yeah, put all that

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energy onto you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, as long as she can control.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as yeah, as long as she's your whoreror.

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Speaker 2: The eighteenth century in Royal Serbia was a time of

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profound superstition, obviously, and deeply rooted beliefs in the supernatural.

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Traditional customs included placing garlic and religious symbols in the

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coffin to prevent the dead from returning.

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Speaker 4: Well didn't they didn't they Before they started embalming people,

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they realized that, uh, catatonic state was kind of a

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real issue. Back then, people would go catatonic and they

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thought they were dead, and they'd bury him alive.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like Alexander the Great, he was paralyzed though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they buried him alive.

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Speaker 3: They buried him a great because he didn't he didn't

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rot for seven days after he died.

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Speaker 4: They thought he was divine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but really he was alive.

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Speaker 4: He was alive.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, he's a vegetable.

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Speaker 4: I know that's where Edgar Allan Poe's crazy came from.

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and it inspired the rest of his darkness.

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Speaker 3: Well that would make sense about the heart beating below

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the floor board.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, a deceased person might linger if proper

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funeral rites were not observed. Peter died in seventeen twenty

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five of seemingly natural causes in his sixties. I think

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Speaker 4: Oh that was old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good for him.

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Speaker 2: And his passing quickly ignited fear into his neighbors and

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sparked vampire hysteria. Throughout Europe.

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Speaker 3: Why what do he do? Just he died and people

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were like, oh, fuck.

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Speaker 2: Well that's what we're getting to her, all right. Shortly

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after his burial, reports of strange occurrences began to circulate.

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Several villagers claimed to have seen Peter in the day's

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following his death, and rumors that he had returned from

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the grave ran wild. The terror escalated rapidly as other

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villagers were starting to suddenly drop like flies from sudden illness.

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Speaker 3: Oo. Now this is a vampire situation, not in uh

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what was the Stephen King movie? In the Indian biogram

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pet cemetery, Uh, which makes no sense to me, because

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like that toddler starts killing people. I could, I could fun, I.

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Speaker 4: Gotta kick it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the snail chase and you just got

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to always keep a distance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean that's always a hypothetical you

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have with your friends to how many toddlers could he

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be before they overrun you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now the difference is apparently, you know, in pet cemetery.

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And then the question here is are do the toddlers

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possess fear? The toddler in pet cemetery no longer possesses.

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Speaker 2: There's zombie toddler. Yeah, yah yah, yeah, because you want

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to remove humanity from them in order to punch a toddler.

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Speaker 3: Right, because the limit doesn't exist if they possess toddler. Yeah,

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but they also, however much you have a taste for.

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Speaker 2: They need to be bloodthirsty, yeah, in order to keep coming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like rabid toddlers. I don't think it's that many.

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Speaker 2: I think I could take a lot.

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Speaker 4: They But toddlers can swing fast. Have you ever had

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one of your kids just sock you before?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Sock?

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Speaker 4: But they it's fast.

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Speaker 3: It's that. And the thing is too, is like they

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they will catch you and not necessarily harder than you expect,

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but like in a place where it's sensitive, like your

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eye or your Yeah, your jaws are like that and

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you're just it's always why I'm carrying them too? Yeah,

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because then there had level.

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Speaker 4: And it's like what do I do? Drop them? Right?

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What are we doing here? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Dude, they're putty people from power Rangers. You're gonna destroy him.

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I mean, take one kid too, and you start swinging

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them around, use them as.

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Speaker 3: We couldn't absolutely use one as a weapon, no doubt. Oh, yeah, yeah,

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ring around the rosie, you get you find a kid

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with a big head like a lollipop.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you ground by the legs so he can't

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bite you too. Yeah, and you're and you just start

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smashing like a club.

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Speaker 4: What if there was like an apocalypse now, but it

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was it was somebody who was in charge of a

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child army, like like Colonel the Colonel, but it.

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Speaker 2: Was like all child sold Yeah, that could just be

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an African movie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's true.

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Speaker 3: I actually think let's do that, but let's think that's

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blood diamond yeah oh yeah instead of Apocalypse. Now, let's

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make it stripes, but it's a child army.

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Speaker 4: Well, they were doing that in the eighties. They were

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basically recreating epic stories but using all child casts. It

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was like a thing they were doing in the eighties,

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Like that Bugsy movie was about like all gangsters, but

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they hired like all twelve year olds to play this

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to be in this gangster story. Sick, we should start

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doing that, just like taking class, like really dark like

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pulp fiction. Yeah, cast all children to redo pulp fiction.

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Speaker 2: But they're on top of each other's shoulders wearing a

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giant trash coat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might go to jail for filming half of

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pulp fiction with children.

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Speaker 4: That is true, you got, yeah, we gotta do maybe,

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I don't know, serbian movie or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Are you all right?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty fucking far from all right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know how child

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Avski groups will feel about the gimp scene. I guess

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now that I think about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In the span of just a few days, nine individuals

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succumb to their mysterious illness, each claiming in their final

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moments to have been visited by Peter. Many claim to

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have seen Peter in their dreams or standing at the

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foot of their beds, his presence accompanied by a suffocating

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sense of dread.

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Speaker 3: Chase is scared.

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Speaker 4: I like how he was all barkie and but there's

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a sense of professionalism about that dog. He knows you're

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on air, and he's not barking all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: Just go let down. But there you go.

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Speaker 4: He can go sit in my volvo.

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Speaker 2: Just leave him in a hot car.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got a nice well, it's white leather, so

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it'll take longer to they cook them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we already talked about murdering children. We might as

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well add dogs to the list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the real tragedy.

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Speaker 2: Each victim reported Peter had laid himself upon them and

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after suffering a mysterious twenty four hour illness, they all died.

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Speaker 3: So he comes in a dream or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like a Freddy Kugar vampire mixture.

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Speaker 3: Lays on them and then they wake up and they're sick, okay,

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and die with them.

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Speaker 4: Getting real Salem sixteen ninety three vibes from this, I

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feel like there's gonna be a lot of hysteria about

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to happen.

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Speaker 2: There are descriptions of feeling drained and weakened before succumb

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into an unknown illness were taken as proof that Peter

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was indeed a vampire, because yeah, why not do we.

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Speaker 3: Have any bitemarks? Or is he like an energy vampire?

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Speaker 2: Both?

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Allegedly, his widow claimed her husband knocked on her door

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after the funeral, demanding his shoes back.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's fair. You can't go kill half the

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town barefoot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they only had one pair of shoes back then.

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It's not like they had a foot locker in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: Everything was that scene from Pursuit of happiness where he

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loses his shoe and he does not have another shoe

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to get.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but as vampire lord goes, you have to invite

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them into the house, right.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you can't. They have to, Yeah, and they'll

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they'll try to trick you. They'll be like, come on,

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let me can you let me in?

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Speaker 4: A isn't that a thing in Eastern Europe? I mean

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still to this day, but historically there's they live by

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certain kind of codes.

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Speaker 2: The vampires have a code.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, I'm saying, like, if someone wants to come

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in for dinner, like you're kind of morally obligated to feed,

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you know, people traveling through and oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone knocks on your door in Eastern Europe, you

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have to offer up food, shelter, bed, and your wife.

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Speaker 4: And that's basically how Rasputint got away with a lot

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of the bull crud that he did.

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Speaker 3: I don't like goat trip.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that I have to give my wife

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to Resputin, but it is. He's a man of customs,

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so I guess I have to. Yeah, it's unfortunate we're

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in the cloth. Apparently he attempted to strangle her, but

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she survived it. She didn't die, so he just strangled her,

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got his shoes back, and then pieced out. Austrian health

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official Ernst from Bald was summoned so he could conduct

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a formal autopsy of the body of Peter. To do so, though,

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they had to have, of course, exhumed the body.

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Speaker 3: Here we go. What does an autopsy even look like

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in the sixteen eighties or seventeen twenty regardless, it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if they had precision tools back then.

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Speaker 2: Villagers gathered at the cemetery at dusk, carrying torches, shovels,

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wooden steaks, and other ritual tools, ready for whatever they

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might find.

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Speaker 3: This feels like something you do in the morning, if

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you're concerned he's a vampire.

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Speaker 2: Dusk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't feel like an evening activity.

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Speaker 2: Well, you gotta make sure he is the vampire, right,

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he won't wake up?

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Speaker 3: True, true, cross all the t's.

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Speaker 2: Dot, all the eyes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When they finally reached the coffin, the group hesitated for

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a moment before opening it, fearing what they might uncover.

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The coffin creaking as it was pried up and revealed

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a sight that defied all natural expectations. To their astonishment,

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the body showed little to no signs of decomposition. His

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skin appeared unnervingly fresh.

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Speaker 3: How long was he dead at this point?

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Speaker 2: I believe ten days?

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: His nails and hair had grown longer, given him a feral,

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almost predatory appearance, and most disturbingly, there was fresh blood

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at his mouth, as though he had just recently fed.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, couldn't couldn't be fluids just bubbling up inside

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of overreadything?

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Speaker 4: What year was this again?

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Speaker 2: Seventeen twenty five?

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Speaker 4: We were vampire novels.

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Speaker 2: Nope, so Dracula was eighteen nineties.

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Speaker 4: Okay, which that really?

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 2: There were there was vampire lore, yeah, yeah, but nobody

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wrote them down as you said earlier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe some stories, but nothing serious. Yeah, but Dracula

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set all the modern rules of vampirism.

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Speaker 2: Really put the vlad Daddy on the map.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So they weren't imagining this based off of some like

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pop culture influence.

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Speaker 2: No, it was just like stories passed down from generation

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to generation.

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Speaker 3: And presumably some pretty bad games of telephone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. Yeah. Only in thestern Europe are Serbians considered Slavic.

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I think so they're Okay.

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Speaker 3: Almost certainly, because I mean you look at like Joe

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Kitchen and uh Djokovic looking Yeah, yeah, those are the

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only two Serbs I know.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember, like when Eastern Europeans started getting into

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the NBA, like in the early to mid nineties, they

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were all ugly as shit. They were just ogre, like

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you you could tell the difference between one of the

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European players and a white American American media immedia, Like

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they had an ogre look about them, I will say,

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but they.

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Speaker 2: Had swagger about themselves.

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Speaker 4: That yeah, Soviet swagger. Yeah. But I will say, uh,

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the Eastern European ballplayers are starting to get a little

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more I guess traditionally good looking, like like Luca. Luca

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is a good looking dude. You wouldn't expect that from

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an Eastern here.

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Speaker 3: Like barely Eastern European sloven Yeah, that's like next to Italy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Croatia too. It's just like beautiful places and beautiful people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Vade Divac was Croatian. He's a goon looking.

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Oh I'm pretty sure he was Serbian or Croatian, but.

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Speaker 3: You're right he was an ogre. Yeah, Like he looked

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like they found him like Yugoslavian. I'm sorry, okay, yeah,

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but they he looks like they found him just like

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chucking pumpkins into a wagon.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, there are certainly levels to it, like Dirk

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was a good handsome fella because he's from Germany.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a.

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Speaker 4: German, but yeah, Germans are traditionally good looking folks, right.

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Speaker 2: I just like that he do Turculeu right now?

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Speaker 3: Is uh?

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Speaker 2: I believe pretty high up in the Turkish command. Oh

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really yeah, it's like he uh he went to the finals,

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00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:45,559
I believe with the Orlando Magic.

471
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 3: And he did. Yeah, got got swept out of there,

472
00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:50,640
but they got there just him and Dwight Howard.

473
00:21:50,759 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, just knocking down threes. And now he's knocking down

474
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,039
anyone that speaks out against the government.

475
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 4: That's wholesome.

476
00:21:57,279 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 3: That makes sense to me for heat Turculu too. My

477
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,200
only if my only memory of hed Turkuleu was playing

478
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,519
swimming pool basketball with my ex girlfriend's dad, like on

479
00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:07,759
a we were all at like a house on Saturday,

480
00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:10,200
like playing on a Saturday, like playing and grilling and

481
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,559
his dad her her dad kept throwing up threes or

482
00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:17,599
whatever and screaming he do Turklu not Kobe, not Kobe,

483
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,359
And I was like, what the fuck? And then he

484
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,720
would just like play when he played defense on me,

485
00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:23,720
he would just he had like long nails and he

486
00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:26,319
just scratched the fuck out of my back like that,

487
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,480
like was playing dirty girl defense against me. Pool basket,

488
00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:32,599
pool basketball, and it was so bad that I got

489
00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:33,119
out of the pool.

490
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,039
Speaker 2: It was then I got out of the pool.

491
00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 3: One boy and my girlfriend and her mom were like, oh,

492
00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:40,240
like saw my back, Like, oh my god, like I'm

493
00:22:40,279 --> 00:22:41,720
bleeding in the pool.

494
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: Like what is wrong with rob?

495
00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:44,599
Speaker 4: Yeah?

496
00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: I was like, your dad did this.

497
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say, but I was like your

498
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,680
fucking dad to me, and she was like, dad.

499
00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:53,519
Speaker 2: Fuck you can't handle the physicality. Get out of the paint.

500
00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:56,200
I guess, so, dude, you gotta stay on the arcs.

501
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 3: I didn't. I That's what I did. I wasn't gonna

502
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,359
back him down after that, Are you kidding me? Wolverined

503
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,160
me for like fucking ten minutes.

504
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,559
Speaker 2: No easy baskets.

505
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 4: He can't.

506
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,319
Speaker 2: Oh no, let your fucking daughter's boyfriend's score on you.

507
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, at all costs. Like, don't worry, buddy, she's gonna

508
00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:14,319
be adding to these marks later tonight.

509
00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: As yeah, was she the whore you should have married?

510
00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:17,839
Speaker 4: No?

511
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,799
Speaker 2: Okay, no, The blood had congealed slightly, standing in his

512
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,039
lips and teeth, a horrific contrast to his pale skin.

513
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,839
The villagers recoiled in terror at the sight, with some

514
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,519
crossing themselves.

515
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: Like a scared one, though like a you don't even

516
00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:36,319
know where to go.

517
00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: Others were whispering prayers. These observations were taken as irrefutable

518
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,319
proof that Peter had become a vampire. I mean, he's pale,

519
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,000
he hasn't decomposed, he's got a bunch of blood in

520
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:55,319
his mouth. Yeah, all the signs of the beast.

521
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: I think they buried him alive. At one point he

522
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,759
was forced to eat his own tongue. Just keep going

523
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:01,839
a couple extra.

524
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:06,279
Speaker 2: Yeah from bald. You know, he was a little bit skeptical,

525
00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:09,240
but once they dug him up, he's like, this is

526
00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:10,200
this is proof?

527
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,759
Speaker 3: Oh he was like. The doctor was like, hmm vampire.

528
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so that's medicine in seventeen twenties.

529
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 3: Well yeah, of course.

530
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: His report confirmed all this and is now considered the

531
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,160
earliest recorded vampire incident in European history. Just his actual documentation.

532
00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: Of it, like opened coffin Vampire, I'm a doctor.

533
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: In a desperate effort to put an end to the

534
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,400
perceived threat, they drove a wooden steak through Peter's dead

535
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,720
corpse in his chest. Some villagers covered their eyes while

536
00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:50,160
others watched in horrific fascination as dark, almost black blood

537
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,240
oozed from the wound.

538
00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's coagulated blood because he's fucking dead. One of

539
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,240
my favorite I forgot what it was from. One of

540
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,119
my favorite lines in any vampire thing I've seen is

541
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720
like some girls so by It was to take through

542
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,640
your heart? Would you die? And he was like anyone

543
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,400
would die. Anyone would die from a wooden steak to

544
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:07,759
the heart.

545
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: Everything.

546
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:11,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, every single thing on earth, all.

547
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 2: Animal and for good measure, the villagers had to burn

548
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,279
the body.

549
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: To ash as well they should so they.

550
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: Just completely if they thought the sanctity of a burial

551
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,640
meant anything for the afterlife. Yeah, this dude was Toad.

552
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,319
They were like, sorry, bro, he's out of heaven now.

553
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're crossing the river of Stycks is a cloud

554
00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:34,240
of ash.

555
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:37,319
Speaker 2: He's actually just chilling and he just gets pulled from underneath.

556
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:37,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

557
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, a door in heaven just falls out from underneath.

558
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: Sorry, you're nothing now.

559
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: His victims were also reburied with garlic and white thorn

560
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,119
placed with each corpse in their grave so they would

561
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,640
not come back a vampires just in case. So they

562
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,559
had to dig up all the people that died around him.

563
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,440
All nine What a day. So it's a busy day

564
00:25:59,480 --> 00:25:59,839
for the grave.

565
00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:03,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, good lord, the undertaker, that guy's just Do.

566
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:05,279
Speaker 4: You think those guys got paid well back then?

567
00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: No, but they got tips, yeah, from this stuff they

568
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,599
stole from the coffin.

569
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, anything they were buried with the undertakers.

570
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, pretty like work in the front desk at

571
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,720
a hotel. These days, you kind of got DIBs on

572
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:20,839
stuff that's left behind.

573
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,759
Speaker 2: There was a I like to tell you there's no

574
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,519
such thing as a loss and found at a hotel.

575
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,559
Speaker 3: No, no, they still do that today. I like to

576
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:28,640
tell the story, like different parts of the story a

577
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,480
lot on the show. But like in high school, one

578
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,920
time in a religion class it was called I think

579
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,039
it's called Death and Resurrection was the religion class. I

580
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:37,440
was in my senior year high school, and we went

581
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:38,079
to one.

582
00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 4: Day you went you had a class called Death and Resurrection. Yeah, yeah,

583
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,240
he went to I know you went to Catholic school.

584
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:45,759
I didn't know they were still rocking that kind of curriculum.

585
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:49,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, uh that class was fucking pointless. Like we

586
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:51,160
spent like three weeks and he was just reading Lance

587
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,400
Armstrong's biography to us or autobiography to us. This is

588
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,440
a pre him getting.

589
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,839
Speaker 2: Think about it though. Oh I was gonna say that's

590
00:26:56,839 --> 00:26:57,680
a true resurrection.

591
00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: It really is. Yeah, but while testicle, I mean yeah,

592
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,000
but it was before he got busted, so he was

593
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000
a hero when he was reading it. But we took

594
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,559
a field trip to a funeral.

595
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,319
Speaker 4: Home and uh oh Catholics go hard.

596
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like we got to see like all the stuff.

597
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:16,440
And at one point he was like showing off coffins

598
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:18,279
and he's like, this is one of our models. Like

599
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:20,039
we the mor mortician was just like it was one

600
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:21,960
of our model. And it's interesting. You know, there's a

601
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,680
little area here slides back and you can put possessions

602
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:32,279
that the bolt that you're deceased treasured, put them here.

603
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,079
Speaker 2: It's also paid to play to get in the heaven.

604
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you slide things here. Yeah, it's like a little

605
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:37,200
like a little door on it.

606
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 4: What would your possessions be that you'd want to be

607
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,559
buried with.

608
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,039
Speaker 3: My children alive.

609
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: Like a pharaoh.

610
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 3: I don't fucking know. I was thinking about this today actually,

611
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,599
and like if I died suddenly, I was like, I

612
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,599
wonder if Courtney would put like a miszoo thing or

613
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,920
something and my thing, and I just thought, like, that's pathetic,

614
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,640
Like someone some some archaeologists finds you and they're just

615
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,279
like this guy, I guess liked sports. What a basic loser,

616
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,599
fucking piece of shit.

617
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Probably have a six pack of like ranch waters for you.

618
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I'll crush those in the afterlife.

619
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: I want a little I'd want a little pack of

620
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,599
Marlboroughs in my front pocket.

621
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, someone have to sneak the zin z

622
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,880
ins as my wife doesn't know it zen so still

623
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,680
it's been almost a year. Still yeah, has not even not.

624
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 2: The sharpest or she just doesn't care at this point,

625
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,039
she's never said a word about it. Like I said,

626
00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:26,480
your house is a war zone right now. Yeah, it's

627
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,759
like item number eighty to be concerned on the triage list.

628
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,279
Speaker 3: It's low, yeah, one hundred percent, but yeah, I'll get

629
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,279
to it getting a fucking like show him, just like

630
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,480
showing off all the little parts of the cool, little

631
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,559
parts of the coffin that we might not have known about.

632
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:43,440
I was like, why the fuck are we here? Actually

633
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,400
I was happier there because it was an easy day

634
00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,559
of class, But it was just like the weirdest, most

635
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:50,640
bizarre field trip I've ever been on in my life.

636
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: Dude, I gotta say, as a secular person, uh, and

637
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:58,480
I'm not anti religious, I'm just non religious. I don't

638
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,440
have anything against any religonigens. But if I had to

639
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:06,680
rank religions based on like kind of the cooler things

640
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,079
purely from a secular point of view, yeah, Catholicism we

641
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:12,240
run away with it. Catholicism rocks.

642
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's number Its just like number one with a bullets.

643
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: The architects, great architecture, but all the whole, like man,

644
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,799
Catholics were just adding all sorts of fun little parts

645
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,640
to the story for thousands of years after the fact,

646
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:27,880
and just just all all the stuff that the dogma

647
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,240
that comes with it. It's it's really fascinating.

648
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: And the history too. I mean, at one point, I

649
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,720
think at the Council of Nice, see it maybe Uh,

650
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,559
Santa Claus beat the shit out of someone for questioning

651
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,119
the Virgin Mary.

652
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's Catholic awesomeness, right right.

653
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: Santa Claus also saved a bunch of horse women that

654
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,960
would have became Santa Claus.

655
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:49,839
Speaker 3: Do you know Santa Claus is the patron saint of

656
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:54,000
horse No, Saint Nick is the patron sant of prostitutes.

657
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,359
Speaker 2: Because he put gold in their stock and so they

658
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:56,519
didn't have to sell their bodies.

659
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 4: Oh what a good guy. Yeah, you think got a

660
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,480
couple of blowies out of it.

661
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: One would hope, because it's sort of sort of a

662
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,559
self defeating reward.

663
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: But it was a single dad who was going to

664
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,640
offer up his daughters to other men, and Saint Nick's like,

665
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,000
na I got you. Yeah, so really that guy should

666
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,559
be blowing them the dad.

667
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 4: Why don't we just why don't we redo a more

668
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,599
true to fact kind of Christmas Santa Claus movie? But

669
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,079
it's it's him hanging out with prostitutes and stuff like that.

670
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,119
Speaker 3: I just want to when like one of my kids

671
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,839
is old enough.

672
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: Prostitutes play a big role in the Bible, Jesus Christ himself.

673
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: Mary Maggs, Yeah, they're the kind of the glue guys

674
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,279
of the Gospels. To be honest, hookers, Do.

675
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: We still have Mary Mag's skull allegedly?

676
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in some golden iron manesque.

677
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: The Catholics have it. Yeah, not the cops, not the Orthodox,

678
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:46,920
certainly not the Protestants.

679
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: We got relics, Yeah, we love our relics. I think

680
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:52,880
Saint John Newman, his entire body is just at the

681
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,240
altar of this church in Philly that I went on

682
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:56,599
a school trip to.

683
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a lot of churches with skeletons, and

684
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,200
even in America.

685
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: They had to reconstruct his face though with Clay Dude, you.

686
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: Know what we should do. We're going to talk about

687
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:09,559
a little thing we're working on between the three of us.

688
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,759
But the San Antonio missions have a lot of good

689
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:16,759
Franciscan Spanish history, Spanish Franciscan history down there.

690
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh, I'm sure San Antonio is kind of

691
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,559
a it's an old ass city.

692
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: My American standards.

693
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:24,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's old Mexican, extremely old.

694
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

695
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:30,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's more Catholic than the Mexicans. They love Mary.

696
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:34,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean this right, I mean this Obviously

697
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,319
there's cultural differences between the Irish and Mexicans. But there's

698
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:42,000
a lot of stuff where if you just start making

699
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:44,599
broad statements, you wouldn't know if you're talking about an

700
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:46,039
Irishman or a Mexican. No.

701
00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there would be no way to tell, Yeah, until

702
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,640
you put an accent or a color on it.

703
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's literally what.

704
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: Might have remained a grim village legend took a life

705
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,480
of its own when Fronbaum's detailed report reached Austrian officials

706
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,359
in Vienna. Authorities didn't really care about what happened, but

707
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,559
of course that mass media certainly did.

708
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: What are we talking about pamphlets proto newspapers, newspapers, Yeah.

709
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:13,359
Speaker 2: Newspapers kept printing.

710
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:16,759
Speaker 4: Fitch News, Foxoslav News.

711
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:20,119
Speaker 2: You don't hate the media enough printing vampire stories.

712
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,799
Speaker 3: It's never the media that it's never been different. Like

713
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:26,519
people are like the beauty is so dope to look

714
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:29,720
at the stories they cover. Go read a newspaper from

715
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:32,640
any other time period and it is the same. Thun

716
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:33,319
Thomas shit.

717
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: Thomas Jefferson literally started his own paper just so he

718
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,359
could talk shit about John Abbas.

719
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: Pamphlets, newspapers, they were all to talk shit.

720
00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:46,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, pamphlets were really the podcasts of the like seventeen

721
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:49,440
to eighteen hundreds, sixteen hundreds too r yeah, like the

722
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,559
blog podcast. Yeah, people, we did an episode where.

723
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,279
Speaker 2: That was the whole thing with Hamilton, right, Uh, he

724
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:58,519
cheated on his wife. Yeah, and they just kept printing that.

725
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:00,920
So Adams had to like kind of weeping under the rug.

726
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to kind of handle that. But he

727
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:06,400
also fucking hated Hamilton, so probably because he had everybody did.

728
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was really useful, but he was not well

729
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:13,759
liked in those founding father circles.

730
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: I think he was very much like he couldn't hide

731
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,519
his own ambition and everyone was just like, ugh, like

732
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:23,160
act like you've been there. Yeah, weird thirsty right yeah,

733
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,920
thirsty little asshole.

734
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:29,319
Speaker 2: So because they print these stories in all the papers,

735
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:34,720
of course, similar occurrences happen pretty quickly after in Serbia,

736
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,839
Romania and Hungary.

737
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: A social contagion if you will, like dig him up. Yeah,

738
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,160
everyone's seeing vampires.

739
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: Weird, weird holl that happens, weird how human beings you

740
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,480
put it into like the the zeitgeist, and it just

741
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,000
enters everyone's brains.

742
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:50,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, which we still deal with to this day, just

743
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:51,440
in different forms.

744
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,079
Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's it's so it's such a weird dichotomy.

745
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,160
We always talk about of the show, how like we're

746
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,440
such an insanely like creative and innovative species. But at

747
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,440
the same time, like just repeat the same simple patterns

748
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,000
scared his cattle over and over and over again.

749
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 4: We're we're like, they're like that poor pizza parlor guy

750
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,800
in DC. One guy, one anonymous guy on a form

751
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,760
just started a rumor about that guy's family owned pizza business,

752
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,199
and now people are trying to kill him.

753
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:24,599
Speaker 3: It's just like, just take a step back for a

754
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:29,760
second and ask yourself, why would they want to rape

755
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,360
a child in a pizza basement.

756
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least go to a Chuck e Cheese like

757
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,519
do Yeah, Like, I get the pizza and then you

758
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:38,639
get the game down the animal.

759
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:42,039
Speaker 3: They can get a hotel suite just fine. Yeah, doesn't

760
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:42,559
need to be.

761
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, the pizza entrant is like a tunnel, Okay. Yeah,

762
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,800
if I had to guess, I never really looked into que.

763
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 3: I didn't either.

764
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:52,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so people are trying to take care of

765
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,039
that guy. Meanwhile, we clearly know some of the top

766
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:57,239
people in the world are on that Epstein list, and

767
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,039
no one wants to release that thing.

768
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: It's fine.

769
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: I initially told News, I initially thought q QAnon was

770
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,159
just schoolboy Q the rapper fan base.

771
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: QAnon is a good rapper name. Also it is.

772
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 4: I started a group chat. Uh. There's a couple of

773
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,320
British English specifically actors that I know, and I just

774
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,599
send them British memes and they send me American memes.

775
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:20,719
That's all our chat is. It's nice, but I renamed

776
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:26,760
it the Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew Island Party group chat.

777
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: We have another similar case also in Serbia that pops

778
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840
up after with Arnold Pohle.

779
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,119
Speaker 3: Great name, it's it's a good porno name.

780
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: When he was alive, Pole claimed he protected himself from

781
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,039
a vampire's bye by eden dirt from its tomb and

782
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:47,880
cleansing himself within its blood.

783
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 4: He just made that up on the spot.

784
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: Yes, fake as could be. They just took it. So

785
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,679
he got bitten by a vampire, but knew where the

786
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,519
vampire was buried, just ran too his grave.

787
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,639
Speaker 2: And it was like, yeah, saved his life.

788
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 3: It worked. I mean he said it happened.

789
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: That ground is spoiled.

790
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: Prove him wrong.

791
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,559
Speaker 2: Well, these precautions didn't prevent him from breaking his neck

792
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:11,039
when he fell off his hay wagon well.

793
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:14,079
Speaker 4: Which I would imagine was a common accident in those days.

794
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:16,079
Speaker 3: One would imagine, Yeah.

795
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,639
Speaker 2: So many people died in dumb ways.

796
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean, you get one tiny cut, you're

797
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:23,000
that could be it for you.

798
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:26,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, truly, you have no idea. You're like, you just

799
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:27,079
cut your foot.

800
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: And you're just like, well, you see, you're making the

801
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,199
stew for the family, cutting potatoes and onions and stuff

802
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:36,119
and carrots, and all of a sudden, yep, I'm dead.

803
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:36,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

804
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,039
Speaker 3: One of my favorite stories I pulled from a newspaper

805
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:40,840
for the Patreon was just some chick stepped on a

806
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,239
nail in her house. Dead a couple days later.

807
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: Dead. We are such an ungrateful time in history that

808
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,159
we don't even appreciate that penicillin exists.

809
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I mean, the only way to put it

810
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,360
would be like, just like if you if a person

811
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,719
want to really so imple analogy for how spoiled people

812
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,880
are today. It's like listening to like a peak Bowls

813
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,360
or Peak Warriors or peak Alabama fan complaining about their team.

814
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,119
Have some perspective, right, you fucking asshole.

815
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: Any sec people in Chicago are still riding that fricking

816
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:19,960
high to this day. That than the nineties Bulls.

817
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:25,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, like have some goddamn perspective they have.

818
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: If you're a Chicago sports fan, you're down bad, especially

819
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,800
if you're a Cubs fan. Definitely white.

820
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

821
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: Historically, I mean the Bears have never really had a quarterback.

822
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 4: No, they had Jim McMahon, who wasn't a great quarterback,

823
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,400
but uh, one of the greatest personalities in NFL history.

824
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: They had that Blackhawk run in like the twenty ten

825
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:49,440
they won three Steele Cups. Yeah, but I don't think

826
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:51,239
enough of Chicagoans care.

827
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: No, they went insane for that.

828
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 4: They were.

829
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,199
Speaker 3: My buddy was uh managing a bar in Wrigleyville during

830
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,199
that run, and he was like, the after the won

831
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,599
the first.

832
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,639
Speaker 2: One, well they would always pop in that you could

833
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,719
literally party with the Chicago.

834
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,519
Speaker 3: Black He was like, it was the most dangerous night

835
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:09,440
of my life. Like at one point he was like,

836
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,199
we had to break fire code and just lock the

837
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,440
door and lock everyone who was in in and to

838
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:17,159
keep everyone else out, and and that was just it.

839
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,360
We had to do it for like three hours. No

840
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,360
one could leave, no one could get in.

841
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:26,039
Speaker 4: I will say that Chicago Blackhawks, with the exception of

842
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:29,440
them being a historically significant team to the NHL, I

843
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,800
think they have the coolest freaking.

844
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:34,159
Speaker 3: Love great sweaters. Yea, great sweaters all the.

845
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,079
Speaker 2: Like original six teams have the best logo. Yeah, they're

846
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:39,599
just timeless, little.

847
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,119
Speaker 4: Little changes over the years. They're almost perfect.

848
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:44,599
Speaker 2: Retro is always in mm hmm.

849
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: The new ones are pretty shitty right now, like the

850
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,679
Kraken and the Nights I think are kind of mid

851
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,159
The Nights are awful. Yeah, it's not a good not

852
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,199
a good sweater.

853
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 4: And there they and nobody's ballsy with name and expansion teams.

854
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,119
Speaker 2: Anyways, we got the Mammoth now.

855
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:02,679
Speaker 3: The Mammoth one sucks too. It looks just like the

856
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:09,480
cracking almost like it's the it's the same thing. It's Meanwhile,

857
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,079
the team that they used to be had a goaded sweater. Dude.

858
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: It's the same thing as religion, right, you try to

859
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,920
make a new religion. It's hard, not as good, it's

860
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,199
not as good. You need that time.

861
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: Credit to a religion like scientology for trying their best,

862
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,400
because I think they have a lot of swag compared

863
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,280
to like someone who starts a new Christian church today

864
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:32,800
and it's just in a strip mall and there's nothing

865
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,960
interesting about it. Like the Scientologists try.

866
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 4: They hire the band where they're all wearing Chuck Taylor's

867
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,440
and the jeans and the flannel.

868
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Scientologists though they have hitters, they got Tom Cruise.

869
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:49,079
Speaker 3: Travolta.

870
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: I mean that was part of the strategy, right Will Smith?

871
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 3: Probably he is.

872
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:58,119
Speaker 2: I think that's the entire movie with his son on.

873
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: Didn't Shamalan directed?

874
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: It's an l ron joint.

875
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,639
Speaker 3: Why did Shamalan get in on that?

876
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: Jada Pinkett Smith is one of the biggest goddamn frauds

877
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,079
on this planet.

878
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: She's like an evil person.

879
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:11,119
Speaker 2: Yes, she seems bad.

880
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: Just from what I've seen as a wife. What a

881
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,960
horrible person to be married to. But let me let

882
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:21,039
you want to talk about Cleopatra. I'm sorry, guys, it

883
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:22,280
pisses me off so.

884
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,159
Speaker 3: Much that she played Cleopatra.

885
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 4: No, she didn't play Cleopatra.

886
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: But she ruined a good man.

887
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 4: She she prodyd I.

888
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:31,199
Speaker 3: Know, I think she did play Cleopatra.

889
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,519
Speaker 4: Netflix has been putting out these bang and docu docu

890
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:38,400
dramas for years now. The one that they did on

891
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,519
the the Romanovs on the Last Sar, the one that

892
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,559
they did on speaking of Vampires, the one that they

893
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,559
did on uh Mamet, the second of the Ottoman Empire,

894
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,480
the second season was about him going in up against

895
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:54,519
Vladvian paler Uh. They did some one on the Samurai,

896
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:57,960
their Bangers. I look forward to those releases so much

897
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:00,920
because they have like actual historian in speaking to it.

898
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,840
Then they hire like really good actors and high level

899
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:09,280
production to do reenactments. Yeah, and then anyways, they were

900
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:15,679
Jada Smith production Company was releasing one on Cleopatra executive producer.

901
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, and she had another black chick player.

902
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:23,159
Speaker 4: She had a black chick played Cleopatra. And this is dude,

903
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,679
if you want to if you want to accelerate and

904
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:32,239
and give voices to great people of African descent in history,

905
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,639
you have no shortage of options. But what Jada Smith

906
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:39,800
did she took Cleopatra and in the first five minutes

907
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,519
of the documentary, some dipshit liberal arts professors from bumpfuck

908
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:48,719
Georgia is on there going first off, Cleopatra. I don't

909
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,880
care what anybody says. She was a black woman and

910
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,880
I'm like, no, that's not true at all. Remote Now

911
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,119
I'm gonna look racist for say you're wrong, but you're

912
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:57,920
so wrong.

913
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 3: What was funny about that too, is you you don't

914
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,519
hear this as much anymore, but they're but you do

915
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,320
a little bit. But it was a bigger thing, uh

916
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,840
a little while back where white people were called racists

917
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,280
for kind of just like making like africatures Africa. You

918
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,480
know what I mean, top to bottom, it's Africa. There's

919
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,239
no we don't like, we don't like acknowledge, like the

920
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,639
ethnic differences in the different cultures were just like Africa.

921
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,599
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. But because there are a

922
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:23,880
lot of differences on that big ass.

923
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: Contents exactly what they did. They're just like, dude, Africa,

924
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:27,920
she's black.

925
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: No, it's like no, this is a woman that was

926
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,880
an inbred Greek.

927
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even but even I mean there were some

928
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,599
I think blacker, darker.

929
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:40,039
Speaker 4: Nubians ran Egypt for a long time. Do a story

930
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:44,760
on that, right, don't read like every egypt. Egyptians were pissed.

931
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,199
I think they they sued Netflix. Good, the country of

932
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,920
Egypt sued Netflix. Good.

933
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 3: They were right too, because they're not ethnically black. There,

934
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,880
I gets yeah, they're African.

935
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: They had the The Egyptians absolutely had a different comment

936
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,000
sempt of race than we did. By all means, they

937
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,840
were actually way more inclusive than we are in our

938
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modern society in a lot of ways. But the Greek

939
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Potolemaic rulers were not mixing with people that from that

940
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far in South and no Africa.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even sure how much like what Nubians or

942
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:22,519
what was the sort of the k that's right below

943
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the nut canyons, but Cush heitsh, I don't I'm not

944
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sure how much the Ptolemies were even dealing with them

945
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at that point.

946
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Speaker 2: No Kingdom of Cush, Yeah no.

947
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Speaker 4: And it is like, if you want to do stories

948
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:40,679
about influential black people in history, you have no shortage

949
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of options. Why did you literally blackface Cleopatra?

950
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Speaker 3: Right, it's it's the dumbest thing.

951
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Speaker 2: In the world because we're not creative, we're not just

952
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take already exist in IP.

953
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Speaker 4: There is a play in New York right now. I

954
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:56,760
just saw this headline today and so and then of

955
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,760
course the comment section was going ape shit about it.

956
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,280
But it's an actual set tire of left culture. But

957
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,480
it's about Anne Frank. But she's like a neuro divergent

958
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,960
pan sexual perfect, you know, like they completely change her,

959
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,639
change her. And but the whole point of the play

960
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,320
is to mock that kind of thing. But of course

961
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,800
the comment section is like, this is something they would do.

962
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,320
I'm like, well, they're making fun of what.

963
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: You can't do satire anymore.

964
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: It's pasted it. Yeah, I'll never forget the first Onion

965
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,719
headline I ever saw. It was when Obama. This is

966
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,960
when Onion was still a printed newspaper and on college campuses.

967
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And I was at the University of Minnesota walking by,

968
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and it's when Obama was running in two thousand and

969
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eight and just says, black Eye asks for change. I

970
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was like, that's what I got introduced to the Onion.

971
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Speaker 3: That's fucking perfect.

972
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: Another Chicago oh Man.

973
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

974
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

975
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: Forty days after his demise, four villagers declared that Pole

976
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,599
had returned to torment them, and then those four people

977
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:15,679
promptly expired. They zoomed his girl documented. Yeah, well, as

978
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,440
well documented as it could be. Yeah, for the time.

979
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,559
You know, However, Serbian in the eighteenth century.

980
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Speaker 3: They were part of a functioning empire. So the good

981
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infest so.

982
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: He got to all the way to Vienna, so I

983
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,199
imagine it's it's there.

984
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,760
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985
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,159
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986
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:38,920
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987
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988
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Speaker 2: So they drove a stick through his heart, to which

1056
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,280
he allegedly reacted with a frightful shriek as if he

1057
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,719
was still alive. That done, they cut off his head,

1058
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,000
burnt his whole body. Then they went to the four

1059
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,519
supposed victims of poll and did the same thing as well.

1060
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: Just to be die your eyes did they also scream.

1061
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: I don't know this guy.

1062
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be funny if he was just buried alive

1063
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,400
and was like, that's how he gets woken up? Yeah,

1064
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:35,360
just barely even hanging on. And then they just put

1065
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,159
a steak in his heart.

1066
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: He was in a coma.

1067
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll get you out of it. Maybe we should.

1068
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: Try it somebody that has no chance waking up, just

1069
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,880
a complete vegetable. Yeah, yeah, Terry Schivo.

1070
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, where's a Terry Schivo when you

1071
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,400
need one?

1072
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: We haven't had a Terry Schivo in a moment.

1073
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: There's a guy. Uh, I don't know him, but I

1074
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,639
always get a giggle when he comments on my I

1075
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:00,960
think he follows me on Twitter. His handle is just

1076
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:06,440
big Terry Schivo fan, and it's got a picture of

1077
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,920
her as his avatar god.

1078
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,159
Speaker 2: Medical professionals of the time suggest that the apparent lack

1079
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:16,639
of decomposition in their bodies could be explained by various

1080
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,679
natural factors. Obviously, the cold climate would have naturally preserved

1081
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:26,400
the body, causing it to appear almost lifelike long after death.

1082
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,679
Speaker 3: I mean, especially if it's six feet underground. It's goddamn

1083
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:29,760
refrigerated at that point.

1084
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1085
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: Additionally, the presence of fresh blood in the mouth of

1086
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,360
the corpse could have been the result of natural body

1087
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,840
processes such as the pulling of blood, which were misunderstood

1088
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,239
by the untrained eyes of the villagers and mistaken for

1089
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,360
signs of vampires.

1090
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:48,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the illiterates got confused and scared.

1091
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: That's really all it is. Yeah, Yeah, they can't really explain.

1092
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,679
Maybe it was just diseased from the body not being

1093
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,239
six feet deep. There were shallow grays. Okay, maybe they

1094
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,760
were just a round a guy that was like really sick,

1095
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,000
and it could have just been you know, similar to

1096
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:06,079
like a plague spreading.

1097
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder if there's certain diseases that actually like

1098
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,079
stop you from decomposing as quickly for some reason too,

1099
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,440
just I don't know why it would, but.

1100
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,559
Speaker 2: The gases produced during the decomposition could also lead to

1101
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:21,400
the body appearing bloated, given the impression that the decease

1102
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:23,920
was still nourished and therefore active.

1103
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: It also, I guess if you stake it in the

1104
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,920
heart when what you think is screaming, might just be

1105
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,920
escaping them mouth like, oh my god, it's vampire.

1106
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,639
Speaker 2: The Enlightenment thinkers believed that such phenomena were not supernatural,

1107
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,440
but rather the result of natural processes that were not

1108
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:46,960
yet well understood by the general population. Who, right, Who

1109
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,320
were just you know, fucking farmers and people just trying

1110
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,840
to get by, And the way they dealt with death,

1111
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,360
which was very common, was to just pass it off

1112
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,920
to something supernatural because it gave it more were more

1113
00:52:01,039 --> 00:52:03,599
meaning than just oh yeah, my brother died.

1114
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:06,519
Speaker 3: That's another thing that people forget too, is like there's

1115
00:52:06,519 --> 00:52:10,119
some kind of like special anger people holding their hearts

1116
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:14,000
currently for how people from cities, coastal elites type of

1117
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,519
thing view like Middle America or the country you all

1118
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:17,960
the time.

1119
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,119
Speaker 4: It is.

1120
00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: The oldest thing in history for people from cities to

1121
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,639
look down on people from the country.

1122
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,519
Speaker 4: Unique to the United States.

1123
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: Not remotely. Back then, anyone from Vienna was looking at

1124
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,559
these people like at backwards garbage.

1125
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: If you were middle class in ancient Rome, you didn't

1126
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,880
give a fuck about what some Sicilian was up to.

1127
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: No for their garbage, I guarantee you. The first city

1128
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,559
states in like Sumer and stuff like that, they looked

1129
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:50,079
at the hunter gatherers out there and were like, those

1130
00:52:50,119 --> 00:52:53,360
people are garbage, absolute hobo.

1131
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: They crash and they can't even supply our food for us. Yeah, yeah,

1132
00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,280
we're work, we're doing all yeah. Yeah.

1133
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: Like there's no point in human history where people who

1134
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,039
lived in cities didn't look at people who didn't live

1135
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,800
in cities and think you are a piece of trash

1136
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,519
and vice versa. Oh, Yeah.

1137
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you ever talked to a real people, a

1138
00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:15,760
real person who's got like all the guns and opinions

1139
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,280
about the city in the world, but they won't go

1140
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,440
into that city. Yeah, that's a dangerous place. Yeah.

1141
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 3: Like, oh and I guarantee you. Yeah, the hunter gatherers

1142
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,440
probably looked at the cities and sumer and we're like,

1143
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,880
look at those soft pussy bitch.

1144
00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 4: Yes exactly.

1145
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:31,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, we had you know, probably hundreds of people

1146
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,760
after this that were dug up, had stakes driven through

1147
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,440
their heart.

1148
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 3: Their corps victimless crimes.

1149
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: Kind of, but they had such sanctity for the burial

1150
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:47,079
process and for people's rights post death that yeah, they're

1151
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:48,400
kind of stepping.

1152
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: All over I mean, but to that point in their minds,

1153
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,599
the dead has violated the sanctity of their own burial right.

1154
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,199
So they've lost all right to a sanctified great, a

1155
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:05,360
dignified gras. Yeah, they they crossed the line. They lose

1156
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,000
their rights.

1157
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:07,519
Speaker 2: It's fair.

1158
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to lawyer this. I think that I

1159
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:11,599
don't think the dead were victims here.

1160
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,639
Speaker 4: I wonder how the families were in that, like the

1161
00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:18,039
immediate families, the kids or spouses were they like on

1162
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:20,559
board with the villagers. Do they buy a god you

1163
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,800
doing this to my dad?

1164
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, like papa, like they opened the grave.

1165
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: Well, the Peter or whatever allegedly assaulted his wife. I

1166
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,800
wonder how much grief she was in for that to

1167
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,280
have happened.

1168
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 4: Did he assault his wife by the standards of the

1169
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,920
day or was it above.

1170
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,199
Speaker 2: No, he's trying to strangle her after he died, so.

1171
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,079
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I mean, I think mild strangulation is not

1172
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:46,840
going to get anyone. He just wanted to shoot antenna up,

1173
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:47,760
you know what I mean?

1174
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: Neither kicks.

1175
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't have domestic disturbance calls back and.

1176
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: Then no, no, no, you You basically have to be

1177
00:54:56,159 --> 00:54:59,519
literally stabbing your wife before a police officer is going

1178
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:00,440
to get up in do something.

1179
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:04,039
Speaker 4: Dude, if you were a woman off time period in

1180
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,519
that part of the world who didn't get smacked, you

1181
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:08,760
hit the lottery of having a man.

1182
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:09,199
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1183
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, although they probably wouldn't respect you. True seventeen

1184
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,920
hundreds woman in Serbia.

1185
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 3: He's never hits me once. He's he doesn't love me,

1186
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:24,280
baby man, he's a beach. No kind of gets himself roused.

1187
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,760
He's so soft. Won't hit me once she probably like

1188
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,159
even tries to get him to like just does things

1189
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,360
that she knows will really tick him off, and he's

1190
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,360
still just like, but I love you, and she's just like,

1191
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,280
oh god, you the what's fucking pussy of vivid man.

1192
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 4: That's why I have had never had any interest in

1193
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,400
my lifetime of dating an Eastern European woman. I feel like, culturally,

1194
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,639
I uh, I'm not I'm not exactly yeah, like they

1195
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:55,320
want someone to I don't know that. You know, I'm

1196
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,000
not an expert on that culture by any means, but uh,

1197
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,840
I don't think I could live up to the culture

1198
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,559
they come from.

1199
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:04,679
Speaker 3: I don't have the energy to dominate them in the

1200
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:06,760
way they need to be dominated, like if I can

1201
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,639
from the couch be like, hey shut up, I'm not

1202
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:10,199
getting up.

1203
00:56:11,559 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, oh, I got to hit you.

1204
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: And then of course around this time too, is when

1205
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,920
all the werewolf trials were going on, the Wish trials

1206
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,800
for men, yeah, yeah, not talked about enough everyone. I

1207
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,360
saw some real trying to say that the Salem Witsch

1208
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,440
trials and stuff, which he got all like the facts

1209
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:34,760
wrong about, of course, but he was essentially just white

1210
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,800
nighting for women. Saying that they were just trying to

1211
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,920
steal their land and stuff.

1212
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,679
Speaker 4: I mean that did I mean they did that to

1213
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,679
men too. Gyles Corey, the guy who that they stacked

1214
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,679
all the stones on and pressed him to death. A

1215
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,239
week later, they did the same thing to his wife,

1216
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,440
and the sheriff took the land.

1217
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: I mean, right as soon as they tried to get

1218
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,719
rid of the people who owned it, anyone who had

1219
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,480
a contractual claim to it.

1220
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't just specifically women. Well you know, also

1221
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,880
the accuser were women, two teenage girls.

1222
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: Girls started off with and it was against the people

1223
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,440
they accused. Their parents were in a family dispute with.

1224
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1225
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was a little like local almost political

1226
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:17,519
dispute that they weaponized, which trials for Yeah.

1227
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: So you know, Europe kind of had something similar with

1228
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,280
the werewolves.

1229
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: Sick being accused of being a were wolf would be

1230
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:28,480
awesome because I would just be like, Okay, well there's

1231
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,480
a full moon in eight days. I will I will

1232
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:34,119
voluntarily walk into this cage and sleep in there, and

1233
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:38,360
you can watch me all fucking night. Dickhead. Put it

1234
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,159
right under the moon, you can watch and I'll sleep.

1235
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:44,480
I probably jerk off in the middle of that.

1236
00:57:44,679 --> 00:57:46,639
Speaker 2: You might cover that on the patreon Patreon dot com

1237
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:49,000
s last Sophomore History again, we got two more Halloween

1238
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,920
episodes that you will find nowhere else that are ad

1239
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,840
free on our Patreon. So we'll be doing that this week,

1240
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:56,840
getting you know, all the spooky content while.

1241
00:57:56,719 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 4: We still do this much spooky last year.

1242
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, We've doing this three year.

1243
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a whole.

1244
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,719
Speaker 2: Month every month, every October, we do spooky.

1245
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:08,159
Speaker 3: The only theme we stick to year after year.

1246
00:58:08,679 --> 00:58:10,239
Speaker 2: We tried to do a Black History Month and it

1247
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,320
didn't work well and.

1248
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: We didn't do bad, but we just got we got boredl.

1249
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: No, no, but we we fell into the tropes of

1250
00:58:18,519 --> 00:58:19,519
artist athlete.

1251
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: I actually one of my Black.

1252
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:24,239
Speaker 4: History well you could do Cleopatra if you want.

1253
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of my Black History one episodes I actually

1254
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,119
still think is one of my personal favorite episodes. I've

1255
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:31,400
at least researched to this day on the land of

1256
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,119
punt where Egypt got all their fancy things from. Yeah,

1257
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:37,320
they go down there and buy like monkeys and leopards.

1258
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,199
It was like some all yeah, basically yeah, it was nice.

1259
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:46,719
Speaker 4: Uh, the I could throw some specifically a black American

1260
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,800
like soldiers there's a lot of great.

1261
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:53,119
Speaker 2: Oh we've done Harlem hell Fighters, and we've done a

1262
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:53,840
bunch of episodes.

1263
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,559
Speaker 4: You know, who would be a good one to do

1264
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:59,000
and you wouldn't even have to focus on his actual

1265
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,119
athletic career as much because it's a really interesting is

1266
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:07,639
Jackie Robinson. He wasn't the best Negro league player there

1267
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,079
was at that time, but he went to u C.

1268
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,239
L A and he was one of the only guys

1269
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,400
playing in the Negro leagues that actually at one point

1270
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:22,360
had white teammates. So he was a natural choice because, uh,

1271
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:25,159
he was a He's from southern California. He had a

1272
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,000
different mentality than those guys who grew up in Mississippi.

1273
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,599
Speaker 2: Gonna gonna push back. Everyone knows, Babe Ruth was black.

1274
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,559
Oh yeah, he was the first black baseball player Black German.

1275
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 4: It's a thing.

1276
00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:39,159
Speaker 3: There was you know, one of the dudes from Bander

1277
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:41,239
Brothers played with Jackie at UCLA.

1278
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:46,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, but uh Buck Compton, Yeah and then uh great,

1279
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,159
that guy had a great story. Yeah, they were on

1280
00:59:48,199 --> 00:59:51,760
the baseball team. Jackie was a four sport athlete at UCLA.

1281
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,199
If I'm not.

1282
00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: Mistakes, track, football, baseball.

1283
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: Basketball probably would have been good at hockey too, one

1284
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:58,760
would imagine.

1285
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's our episode for today, Jack always pleasured. I

1286
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,239
thank you for coming to my house.

1287
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is awesome. This is rad I I really

1288
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,840
I wish, I wish I would have done this in August,

1289
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,159
because that pool you got out there is really great one.

1290
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: It's still kind of toasty. You can you can pull

1291
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:14,760
your trunk.

1292
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: It's seventy nine degrees, bro, you can hop in.

1293
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, because we're about to have a cold

1294
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:19,559
front this week.

1295
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: I better get on its finally autumn.

1296
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,519
Speaker 4: Now now he wants to get up and hang.

1297
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,559
Speaker 2: And now it's chill, but he's out of friend. He

1298
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:27,199
knows what he's doing.

1299
01:00:27,239 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: He knows the show's over.

1300
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:28,599
Speaker 4: Good boy.

1301
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Jack, where can the good people find you?

1302
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:33,239
Obviously Jack's history.

1303
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 4: Yep, jacked history on YouTube. That's j A C K

1304
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:38,400
E D H I S T O R Y and

1305
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:42,199
uh and and uh, I give I give my weekly

1306
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:44,119
shout out to soft Court on that.

1307
01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: Uh. You got one of our last hats ever called

1308
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,960
collectors out him hat I was gonna wear today.

1309
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,119
Speaker 4: I didn't think it matched this, Uh, but I wore

1310
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:54,639
that hat when I was in Ireland. For like an

1311
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:55,199
entire week.

1312
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: We shut the store down so you can no longer

1313
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:58,599
buy that hat.

1314
01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:01,159
Speaker 3: Well, I love that hat. Are Miami Vice hat.

1315
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,639
Speaker 4: It's rad It typically goes good with most color schemes,

1316
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:08,280
but it probably wouldn't have been best with this one.

1317
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,159
Speaker 3: It's okay. I appreciate that you thought about your aesthetic

1318
01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:14,599
for the show. We've had to do Who's Hitler?

1319
01:01:16,159 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: We haven't done any of that. What you learn?

1320
01:01:18,519 --> 01:01:21,559
Speaker 3: What I learned? I mean all of this, I suppose

1321
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,480
I relearned that. You know, don't trust backwoods rednecks when

1322
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,159
they tell you they saw a bigfoot or a vampire.

1323
01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:32,159
Maybe they did, though, I mean I trust Teddy Roosevelt,

1324
01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:33,920
but I don't trust them.

1325
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,519
Speaker 2: Who would you need to hear from an American history

1326
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:40,119
to believe in vampires?

1327
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,519
Speaker 3: Hmmm? I mean, just anyone credible?

1328
01:01:43,639 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: George Washington?

1329
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,239
Speaker 3: Washington, Yes, I wouldn't believe Jefferson. He's a liar, he's

1330
01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:50,119
a he's dramatic.

1331
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:51,039
Speaker 2: Definitely. Not Hamilton.

1332
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 3: No, Hamilton would do it for the cloud.

1333
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,159
Speaker 2: Who's Today's Hitler?

1334
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:03,079
Speaker 4: Well, I would say, uh, human beings in general, it's

1335
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:08,400
the media, Oh yeah, yeah, Eighteenth century media, Eighteenth century

1336
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,480
Eastern European media to be specific, horrible people.

1337
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the media is hitler.

1338
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:18,159
Speaker 2: So thanks for tuning in. Guys, Jack, we love you.

1339
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:23,039
Thanks for having me on for Jack Manville, Rob Fox,

1340
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:24,679
I'm damn for Jester, and you just got saucered