Speaker 1: The infinite complaces people went to and pro fears about
their little affairs, serene in the assurance of their dominion
over this small binning fragment of solar driftwood, which, by
chance or design, Man has inherited out of the dark
mystery of time and face.
Speaker 2: On this episode of Into the Fray, I welcome Brandon
right on with me, and he is of the Tinfoil
Tales podcast, and you have heard Brandon on before. He
was on episode four fifty one I titled that so
creatively Indiana dog Man, where he shared his two thousand
and seven road sighting that was of a dog man
type dogman like creature. Let's just say that Brandon, right,
because there are so many other things going on with
that that make it so very odd. But Brandon, welcome
back to the show.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me so this time.
Speaker 2: And we're probably not going to rehash that road siding
because of the fact that you've already done that on
the show. But what we are going to cover is
the Missa Sinewa Triangle. And this is in your home
state of Indiana, and everybody loves triangles because a lot
of weird shisa goes down in said triangles, and this
one is no exception, and this is an upcoming documentary
produced by yourself. And I have to say I've seen
the whole thing already. I loved it, I enjoyed it.
There was as everyone can tell, here is my page
full of notes. So yeah, there are no shortage of
topics to cover as far as the documentary goes. But
it's very cool, of course, to not only talk about
an upcoming documentary, and we will talk about possibilities of
where to see this. You may not know that yet,
but just for the verbiage of what we're talking about now,
and also actually be able to see these places, because
I know people like to hear about them, but it's
always nice to actually be taken on a little journey
and go to the places that these events have occurred. Now,
let's start off with the most basic question, Brandon, and
that is now, this is in the state of Indiana,
So what are the points that make up the triangle.
Speaker 3: It was kind of just one of those things where
I talked to someone and they had an encounter, so
I kind of like put it on a map, and
then I put my own encounter, and then someone else
had an encounter so to be one hundred percent honest,
it's probably not exactly the same size of a triangle
that it is, because the more I've looked into it,
the further out it's been getting. But the first few
people that I had spoken with like it kind of
made sense because it almost went like a straight line,
like from my encounter to someone else, and then I
get followed the path down to some of these locations
and everything. So I drew a line that way. I
talked to someone from a different town and it went
up to this one. So I was like, well, if
you go from here to hear to hear, pretty much
makes triangle. But I know it's a trendy term in
the paranormal field for people to use that term because
it's just like I said, it's one of those things
to try and get people to actually pay attention to
some of the weird things that go on around here.
So isn't necessarily a complete triangle. I'm sure there's probably
more people that don't want to argue that it's not
just a triangle. But it works.
Speaker 2: No, it does work. And one of the places that
you bring up is the city of Peru, and this
is a place that has burial grounds from the Miami Indians. Right,
so anytime we're talking about sites like that, you might
have weird things going on. But also something that's just
innately probably a little bit creepy to some people is
a circus. Talk about circus, you talk about clowns and things.
Peru is the circus capital of the world, which I
was not expecting when I watched the dock. I'm like, huh,
that is that's a different kind of a moniker to have.
But this this location had a flood in nineteen eleven
that really caused issues there, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Basically where the flood happened is actually where the
original Miami Trading Village used to be before the circus,
and that whole area was eventually wiped out by the
army in eighteen twelve. But that was like one of
their meeting grounds for the other tribes, so that there
was the Delaware Indians, there was the Potawatamy. They all
kind of got together in the central location where the
Mississiniwa River and the Walbash River meet. And for some reason,
that is what Benjamin Wallace, who was the guy that
brought the circuses around here, he bought all that land,
and that's where he started to store all the circus
stuff for this thing. Because Marum and Bailey and some
of the other like bigger name Ringley, they all used
to store all their stuff here in the winter. And
in nineteen eleven a flood came and wiped out so
much of the equipment, killed a lot of the animals.
I'm pretty sure some of the actual workers that stayed
there maybe had drowned. I don't remember the exact number.
I think there was, like depends on where you look at.
There was like eleven people and some said thirty people,
so it's been one hundred actually drowned. But that actually
did a lot of damage there. But I thought it
was strange that they chose that spot where the Miami
had chose to be, like their main hub is a
place to build the Circus Hall of Fame, and then
that's where I guess at all these animals and all
this other stuff happening. So there's been a lot of
tragic stuff that happened in that location.
Speaker 2: One of the other things that you uncovered in this
area and that there are reports of, is the reports
of large canines, and in particular where they are actually
chasing vehicles and keeping up with said vehicles. So I
was wondering, with any of the reports that you found
in researching for your doc, how far or in relation
to your own experience were some of these or any
of them.
Speaker 3: Just a few miles. Pretty much everything that happens within't
because about two miles north of Peru or Mine happened.
A lot of the stuff that happened along the river
is right on the outskirts of town, and then just
south of Peru, like a couple of miles is where
a lot of these other sidings have happened. So everything
within like a ten mile radius has had multiple big foot,
dog man all sorts of weird sighting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's important to mention that there are a
couple of different rivers that also flow in that area,
so you also have that whole water in the paranormal
aspect of things as well. And of course Cryptid's following rivers.
If you know, they pop in and out of this
world and still need to follow rivers, I guess that's
where they would go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the Ill River, there's the Walbash River, and
the Mississiniwa River, and then a lot of little tributaries
that kind of flow through here too, but those are
the main three rivers right in the central area.
Speaker 2: So is that what made you want to do the documentary?
Is after you had your experience and then you just
I mean, obviously you're doing the show, you're doing your podcast,
and you're talking to folks and you're going, you know,
I just feel like I want to document everything in
this area. Or was it, in fact you just saw
how close everything was in succession and decided that was
the catalyst for doing this.
Speaker 3: It was kind of one of those things where after
doing this and finding out other people have had all
these experiences, when I started to just kind of look
around and seeing how many people had the same sort
of encounters, I was just like I could do an
episode on it. And then I was like, well, who's
really going to listen to the podcast? I was like,
maybe a video documenting this stuff would actually draw more
attention to it. So I just kind of I have
no idea what I'm doing. Like I was like, I
want to attempt to make a documentary. I've never made
anything like this before, but that's just kind of I
went about it. I didn't know about doing a podcast
either and I just jumped right into it.
Speaker 2: So well, you did a great job. Your first crack
at a doc you did, you did very well. It
holds your attention and it's so cool. Like I said,
it's so different to versus just hearing someone talk on
a podcast. As you say, you could have just done
an episode or two or a series, but to actually
take folks there and you get to see the locations,
it helps, It really does. It adds context to things,
all right. This is another tragic area. It's called the
Okey Pinocchi area, and there's there's been murders there. There
was a mushroom hunter right that. Something occurred and a
body was found.
Speaker 3: Back in I think it was twenty eighteen, a guy
was murdered for about fifty six dollars. I think it
was what he had on him. I'm sure there was
more to it than that, but that was he was
taken out there and they basically beat him to death
and left him out there in a mushroom home founding.
There's also stories back from I think the sixties or seventies.
There's a little girl named Stephanie and people go out
there and leave tributes to her. I went out there
around Christmas time and someone left her a present. I've
never found any evidence of my little girl named Stephanie
being murdered out there. That's just one of the local legends.
But there's also stories of the uncovered bodies from out there,
which this did. Used to be part of the burial
grounds for the Miami Just right down the street is
the actual official burial grounds now, but that whole area
used to be their burial ground and now it's blocked
off and you're not even supposed to be back there,
which for filming purposes, I was not back there.
Speaker 2: So how close is that to that you mentioned the
Seven Pillars and that's privately owned? Right? Is that basically
that same very same.
Speaker 3: Area, literally just a stones throwaway right along the river.
Okepinok runs along the river, and Seven Pillars is right
along the river. Like I said, it's all within a
less than a mile of each other. But Seven Pillars
is owned by the Miami Indian.
Speaker 2: Oh it is okay, so that part is not privately owned. Well,
I guess technically it is.
Speaker 3: That's called Francis Locom State Park or not Sight Park,
the state Wildlife Area I think it is, but they
barricaded it off after the murder, so you're only allowed
to be out there on horseback and you have to
stay on the main trails. I mean the main trail
takes you to a circle, which we didn't get to
in the documentary, but the circle is where a lot
of the Satanic ritual stuff happens, which we didn't focus
a whole lot on that in the documentary. But they're
back in the eighties and stuff. There's a lot of
fact official animal stuff going on out there. A lot
of people used to go back there and party. A
lot of that whole area is just weird. Anyone that's
everyone out there has had some sort of experience. But
I've went out there in camps and I never had
anything weird happened to me, which is strange because it's
like the people that go out looking for it don't
usually find it, but then the ones that aren't interested
in it have weird things happened to them.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you also in the Okey Pinocchi area,
you talked to a guy named Will Smith, not that
Will Smith everyone. Uh. He found animals that had been
ripped up, and then also a lot of trees that
had been placed in what looked like very intentional arches,
so for marking purposes possibly.
Speaker 3: I actually went out there after I spoke with him,
and I did find the trees there's still somewhat bent over,
and that is where we found those tracks of our
own on the main path that look like human tracks,
but they obviously had its almost primatish because where the
big toe would be, it's almost like they had an
opposable thumb for a big toe. Make a whole lot
of sense as to why a ape would be walking around,
And it didn't look like the typical bigfoot track, and
some were like large dog tracks, so I don't know
that was weird. That's the one thing that we did
come across. There is even other tracks that I didn't
even put in a documentary that we came across because
it's hard to tell what they actually were, and I
only wanted to present stuff that looked I didn't want
people to interpret things a different way, like this is
what we have, this is what I can verify is here.
And those tracks they looked like a little person, which
he even mentioned being like a little track, So I
don't know. I don't know whose kids would be running
around out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't look like the kind of area that
you would go, hey, let's go down here and take
our shoes off and run around. That would I mean,
not impossible, right, but a little bit strange. And you know,
just outside of that. And I appreciate that you did
try to look for records of Stephanie and you admit
I did not find any. Whatever. You know, people want
to take away from that, they can, but even the
locals just constantly talk it sounds like that it's just
known that that is a very very haunted area period.
Speaker 3: I have multiple people that have reached out to me
that did not want to be on the documentary. They
don't want to be interviewed or anything about it, but
they've told me the experiences they've had out there. A
lot of people report seeing a lady in white and
little girl with the lady in white, which sounds kind
of cliche because you always hears stories about people in white.
But the one guy who told me this, he actually
worked for the Highway Department. He was plowing snow, which
I relate to that is what I used to do,
and he was going down the main road, which would
be one twenty four and then he saw a little
girl out there by herself, but she thought was strange.
And in the middle of a snowstorm, there's a little
girl out there. And then when he came back by,
if there's been several, like I said, several people, but
if I remember right, he said he saw her now
with an adult lady and they looked like they were
dressed in like just white, old timey clothing. But they
were walking down that path down like towards Oki Pinoki,
which that's just a gravel road that goes back like
two miles and it just turns into that circle and
then it's a dead end. Why would anyone be walking
that in the middle of the night in a dress
during the snow. And then someone else told me that
they saw something similar, not on the actual gravel part,
but if you go up here, it has like a
ninety degree turn and then there's the old Francis Slocum
horse trails. When he went around that curve, he saw
someone walking in the street dressed in old timey clothing. Now,
could there have been someone doing some sort of reenactment
out of the old horse camp stuff. Possibly, but that's
weird to be doing that in the middle of the night.
So a lot of this stuff happens with like random hours.
And then this didn't actually make the documentary, but someone
had reported seeing a flying humanoid out in that area.
I wanted to interview him. I might do it for
an episode sometime. But he said he saw a gargoyle.
It was eating roadkill along the side of the road
on that like ride before you got out towards Oky Pinocchi.
When the lights hit it, it looked up from the roadkill
and then opened up its wings and shot up in
the air. Now, this is funny because people have talked
about seeing flying humanoids out there as well, and they
do the same thing. They open up. One lady said
she saw a guy walking with a trench coat in
the middle of the road and ended up not being
a trench coat. He opens it up and it was
wings and he just levitates up and then flies over.
Someone else saw someone flying, levitating up off the ground
and flew over the trees. But they never use the wings.
They have wings, but they never flap. Even the guy
that saw the gargoyle said the same thing. The wings
just open and they just shoot in the air. But
what's the point of having wings if you can just levitate.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting detail. Have you ever heard of anything
like that before? I don't think I have.
Speaker 3: Mouth man. I mean, I don't know if anyone's ever
mentioned flap of wings.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's true. But to specifically mention that they
saw wings but then they just look like they weren't functioning,
that is so strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's just part of it again, the whole
the little stuff that we talked about, like the little footprints.
The Miami had their own stories of little people. And
there's a map that one of the local guys that
I'd interviewed, he's done a lot of research around here too,
and he claims that there's been lots of stories of
little people, like little Native American looking people, but there's
also been stories of puck wedgies. But if you follow
the river, not too far from here is a I
think it's called Mound State Park down in Anderson, and
there's all sorts of sightings of puck wedgy activity down
there and little people sightings and obviously mounds because it
used to be the burial mounds of the Delaware Indians.
Speaker 2: I think I would like to see that one of
the little people reports. Sometimes they have closed, sometimes they don't.
I think that I would like to see something like that,
unless they're just you and the middle of nowhere and
it's a whole group of them. Especially maybe not, but
I don't know, that's something I think I would like
to see that list.
Speaker 3: Someone had told me that they were walking with their
mother and she saw a Native American man come up
from behind them, and then she said something to him.
So the son turned around and he didn't see anything,
and he asked his mom who she's talking to, and
she's like looked at him, and she looked back, and
the Native American man was gone. So I don't know
if that's a spirit or again, because this whole area
is all they have American lands from two hundred years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean, who knows what it
could be, especially Okay, in this case, John Fike of Myths,
Monsters and Mullets podcast, he got very emotional recounting what
he experienced. I believe it was he and his wife right,
and essentially, I just it sounds like a pale crawler situation.
And he actually has pictures of when he drove by
this thing and it actually reached out for the vehicle,
and you could just tell that man saw what he
says he saw. Now, who knows what it is. I'm
sure he doesn't even want to. You can speculate, but
he admits, like, who knows what the hell that was.
But you could tell that that really bothered him.
Speaker 3: And that was recent when we filmed that. We filmed
it in January of twenty five, and he just saw
I think at the beginning of December of twenty four,
so it'd been less than a month, all over a month,
so that was really recent for him. So you can
still see how much it affected him at the time.
Like the location where he told me, it's not necessarily
in the same like area here, but he's further away
but along the missus Sinowa River. He was like less
than a half a mile from the river, but he
was more towards Munsey. But if you follow that river,
it goes all the way down to Munsey. And again,
like I said, I think it's not so much just
this central area is literally the rivers themselves, like there's
something along the rivers that do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said it had the upper half of a man.
It was essentially moving on its knuckles, which is a
very creepy detail. Sounds like he couldn't even tell if
it had any legs or anything, almost like it was
dragging itself. That's the way I took that gray skin,
no mouth or nose, and just these dark eye sockets,
no no actual eyes that he could seem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's his version of what he described. Sounds very
crawlerish to me, and literally it was crawling, but he
didn't see legs or anything. It almost looks like it
was missing the lower half of its Torso.
Speaker 2: That's way worse. That is way way worse, right, Brandon, Oh,
thank you.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Also, you had an interview with someone that was fishing
with his dog down by the river, and then you
actually show his dog prints next to these other prints
that he found, and the size difference is a pretty studying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that happened, ironically a month before someone reported seeing
a bigfoot in the same spot. So I am part
of like I get on the bigfoot mapping project and
I find like these things where that was here. This
happened I think it was in the end of July
of twenty twenty and one or twenty twenty two, and
then on the Bigfoot Mapping project. Someone said they saw
a seven or eight foot tall bigfoot walk across the
road and it just happened to be right in the
same location. So I'm wondering if they saw a bigfoot
or if they actually saw whatever bike canine this was,
because again, the average person's not going to think of
a seven foot eight foot tall dog man walking across
the road. They're going to think of a big foot
whilest they're familiar with this type of stuff.
Speaker 2: That is very true. That's very true, especially if you
don't really get the enough light or a profile of
it to see. Oh, there's backwards legs and all of
these you know, the long snout and all of these
things that can stick out about a dog man. So
that's a really good point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dog print of his dog looks tiny compared
to the one that he found and the couple that
he found, because his dog is a seventy pound husky,
so that's already got a big foot. And then you
see the size of the foot next like the track
next to it. That's a even if it was just
a dog, that's a huge dog massive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it definitely was. That's what's so cool. About
this dog is there's actually you show as much evidence
as the witness is allowing you to show. You show
all of that, including John's are with the handswipe down
with the and what I forgot to mention about John's
the pale We'll just call it a pale crawler, just
so everybody realizes what we're referencing is the fingers were
so wide apart. This wasn't just like somebody's normal hand
going down a car. They if you were going to
try to recreate that, right, it was a little bit
further than that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was like this a seven inch gap between
fingers wretched out which I have huge hands and I
can't stretch that far out right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's a big bag of Nope, No, I
thank you. Bigfoot tracks. You interview a father and a son,
they've they've got their own bigfoot tracks out there. And also,
of course lots of aerial phenomena in the area. You've
got actual crafts and orbs, and you actually have seen
orbs in the.
Speaker 3: Sky even out back behind our house. And I have
video of the ones in the front of the house,
which is funny because I can watch them on my phone.
But the moment I try and send them to someone
or upload them to the computer, you can't see them,
and I don't understand why. But like, you can literally
see it on my iPhone, and I've showed people they've
watched and I will text that video to them, and
they don't appear in that video because I was going
to include those in the documentary because we thought it
was starlink, but they weren't moving like Starlink would have
been moving, because we've seen starlink before. And this was
when we first moved out here, and I got all
excited thinking there was UFOs and I realized it was starlink,
but this wasn't what starlink was. And then back in
two thousand and twenty three, there was an orange orb
floating out in the field behind our house and I
yelled for my wife and son to come look at it.
So we were all standing there. And for some reason,
and I've been critical of people for never filming anything,
and I think that's probably why I and more prone
to do it these days, I never thought about recording it.
And we watched it and just set in the same
spot and hovered for a few minutes, and then it
lifted up in the air and then kind of moved
off to the right hand side and then just disappeared.
I thought it could have been a flare, but flares
would go down, not move up. That was the only
thing that I thought was strange about it, because it
did look like an orange a flare, and a lot
of people see these orange orbs around here. They claim
their flares, but I don't think everything is a flare. Obviously,
we are close to a military base, but it's not
an active base anymore, like it's decommissioned and it's just
like a refueling station. They don't have training going on,
but sometimes they claim the up in Fort Wayne, they
have fighter pilots come out there and do training. I
don't know if that's can explain everything that people are seeing,
but I do know these orange orbs themselves. I've seen
them move in patterns that wouldn't be a flare.
Speaker 2: So the one in your backyard, how far away would
you say it's hard to gas? But just to gus
is it like airline cruising speed or closer or further.
Speaker 3: The way this looked, I thought it would have been
higher up in the air, But depending on how close
it actually was. I couldn't tell you like it was
just it looked like a fireball, like that's the best
way I could squab, like a ball of fire in
the sky. And then it just kind of moved and
then disappeared.
Speaker 2: Have you ever tried to go out and put the
intention out there that you want to see something you know, essentially,
for lack of a better term, ce five it.
Speaker 3: Not really. I've said things, and I've tried to make
things happen, but nothing's happened. And I'm leary about doing
that here just because we've, as we've talked before on
that previous that we have a lot of weird stuff
that goes on in my own house, so I try
not to do things too close from home.
Speaker 2: I understand that. I do understand that because even the
last time we talked there was some there's some weird
stuff that happened in your recording studio, I recall, So
don't need to be with the bear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I even have a new studio now, there's still
some random things that happen here. I was editing audio
the other day and it reminded me because when I
was recording an interview with someone, my door opened up
by itself. I was like, well, I must not have
shut it all the way, but it's still just creepy.
When you're sitting out here in the middle of the night,
in the dark, and then all of a sudden the
door just opens up by itself.
Speaker 2: I would imagine, yes, uh huh. Do you hear knocks
and thumps and bumps and things like that, any shadows
out of the corner of your eye?
Speaker 3: Uh? I hear random noises, and I just chalk it
up to probably something outside. I just I don't want
to accept that there's probably something creepy creeping around. I
just say it's some or a critter.
Speaker 2: Once you look into the abyss, right, Randon, you're like,
I've had enough. And that's just to say. I hope
everyone goes back and listens to four fifty one if
you haven't heard Brandon's telling of that. And we were
lucky enough to have Brandon come out while we were
in Indiana filming for on the tril UFOs. We were
also filming for some dog Man stuff, so he retold
it then too, so and thanks again for doing that, Brandon,
No problem, Okay. I also wanted to bring up the
Battlegrounds area because and this might tie into and you
say you didn't touch on it a whole lot, and
you didn't, but it was worth mentioning, so you did.
Is kind of this dark ritual side of things and
the fact that on the battlegrounds there are black robe
figures and they don't seem to be residual in nature
because they reacted to one of the people that you
talked to their headlights when the headlights fell upon these
black figures, these figures reacted.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, this is one of those stories that other
people have also told the same thing. So it's like,
are people seeing the same situation, Like is it the
same entities or these real people or are these really
actual rituals going on. Someone said that they were out
there before and they were chased out on foot by
these robed figures. That makes me think it's actual humans
out there doing some sort of shady, creepy whatever they're
trying to do. Other people have said that they've seen
like the remnants of sacrificial ceremonies, Like they've seen like
blood on the ground. They've seen like the random circles
and like pentagrams drawn out there. I don't know why
they chose that area other than the fact that there
was this is where some of the villages were, and
everyone was burned alive and burned, you know, thrown in
the rivers. That's the thing. Like when the army came through,
they set the villages on fire and they tossed a
lot of the bodies over in the river. So that's
just bad juju in my opinion, because you already have
all the death, you're throwing it in the water. We
know that water can be a conduit for energy. Like
there's just so much activity in these specific areas, so
who knows what's really going on. But a lot of
people have also reported seeing again people doing rituals out there.
They've seen the fires, they've all the remnants, they've seen
the robes. So people are going out there and they're
conjuring up stuff too, or attempting to. You don't know
what you're opening up when you start doing stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be way worse to run into the
actual living, breathing people doing that, Dark Schisa versus the
spirits of past people doing said Shaisa. I think that's
way worse, way more dangerous. Living people are way scarier
than most of the things that were to talking about today,
not all of them, like the pale crawler that's on
the No list, but yeah, that can get very dangerous
very quickly.
Speaker 3: I've told that the people too, and they said, you
have no problem running out in the woods and going
after monsters, as like, the real monsters are the humans
you're going to encounters. I was like, I'm more afraid
of running into some crazy person out in the woods
than I am a big foot coming of ripping me apart. Yeah,
like the likelihood is someone out there doing some weird,
shady stuff out in the woods and don't want anyone
to find them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that happens over and over, and that's
why true crime podcasts are so very popular because we're
we're the scariest thing out there period for the most part.
All Right, last but not least, you guys were out
kind of on this night investigation and you know, kind
of trying to close things up, and then you did
bring up the fact that and this is something that's
come up in other docks and another podcast, and people
have heard this sound in the woods, and that is
a metallic sound that just sounds like there's no way
that should be happening. Why is a metallic sound being heard.
Speaker 3: I was out filming on that bridge and I was
trying to get like beureal footage to start putting things together.
As I was walking back, it sounded like someone had
took like a stick or something and kind of drug
it across the guardrail, like you can tell the sound
of metal being scratched, So I actually went around. I looked,
there was no breed that could have brushed against. There
was nothing around, So I don't know what have made
that metal. And there's no houses or anyone else out
in this areas in the middle of BFB, and I
can't recreate that noise. But when I used the guardrail,
it was literally the guardrail making that noise. But I
can't explain how the guardrail is being scratched across. That's
why I wanted to go back out there, because it
felt like there was something wanting my attention. So two
days later we went back out and then more crazy
stuff happened.
Speaker 2: So when you're out there getting the be roll and
you hear this sound and then you figure out where
the sound came from. How what's the distance there. How
far is that guard rail from where you were standing
when you were getting that be roll?
Speaker 3: A few feet? I was just walking across the bridge
when I heard the noise. It was right behind me.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what else I was?
Speaker 3: It was during the day and I was out there
by myself, and this is actually kind of funny. I
was being watched further down the road by DNR. He
started to creep up on me, so I was actually
going to ask if you wanted to be in the documentary,
but he just drove past me and like waved and
then kept driving so they didn't stop. And then a
few minutes later when I was out in that area,
and then that's when I heard the noise. So he
the only person that I had seen the entire couple
of hours that I was out there.
Speaker 2: How long have you been watching you before he drove
by and.
Speaker 3: Waved, Probably a couple of minutes because I didn't even
notice him until I just seen a black vehicle has
parked further down the road just sitting there. I don't
know if he was just trying to see what I
was out there doing or what, but.
Speaker 2: I mean, we would it have been obvious what you
were doing. I mean, were you holding you know, a
couple of cameras up and this and that.
Speaker 3: I have my camera in my hand and I was
recording stuff or whatever. So it's not like I was
doing anything illegal, right, But.
Speaker 2: So what is some of the other crazy stuff that
went on? If you wanted to share that.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you can vaguely hear what the other
guy was out there talking about when we were like
recording it night. He'd mentioned that on that bridge years back,
they were driving across and conveniently, like people dressed in costumes,
black robed costumes jumped out in front of and want
how to creepy clowd mask on and something else like,
and they tried to stop them. They just drove like
nothing happened with that. But like people are just go
out there and screw around with people. So this whole
area is called hobbit Land. The reason it's called hobbit
Land is because again the small people sightings like the
little humanoids that people see out there now. People for years,
but like even the seventies, it was referred to as
hobbit Land. A lot of people used to go out
there and do things that they couldn't do legally out
of this middle of nowhere. So that was like the
roads that people would drive on the back roads that
have their little fun or whatever they were doing. And
it's not too far off. The Battlegrounds is right along
the river, and then there's just so many people have
reported seeing little people out there. So that's why we
went out to that spot, because I'm like, well, if
this is puck Wedgies as your little people, what was
making that noise?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: I wanted to go out there. And that's, like I said,
he had mentioned tell us about these masked people jumping
out and trying to scare them, which, again, for anyone listening,
don't do that. You might get ran over, you might
get shot. You don't know what's going to happen, Like
when people jump out dressed his Bigfoot years back and
the guy got killed because he ran out in front
of a car. Yeah, I don't. I guess my brain
doesn't process. So why they think that's a good idea,
I don't either.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure either, But yeah, don't do that. You
don't know how people are going to react. So if
you were from everything that we've talked about so far,
if you would say, I need to put my money
on a certain location if I want something to happen,
something paranormal. As best you get, how would it be
hobbit Land or would you go back to some of
the areas where all these upright canines where you had
your own sighting or is it all just equally as
active From what you can.
Speaker 3: Tell for me, the most activity that we had communication
wise was out at obbit Land preparingormal stuff. Like we
went out to Okepinok several different times. I have so
much footage that never got used because nothing happened, and
I didn't want to just put in a bunch of
stuff of nothing. If there wasn't anything that I felt
like was interesting to me, I didn't want to bore
someone else with it. So there's so much unused material
that we have because nothing was going on. Now obviously
maybe there was stuff going on, we just didn't catch it.
But like I said, when it comes to OKEEPINOK, everyone
says that is one of the most haunted places, but
I've personally never had anything happen to me there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that hobbit Land area is creepy, very creepy, even
during the day. As you said, you were out there.
It even just it has this vibe to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just a bridge in the middle of nowhere.
People of spray painted. Don't trust the Hobbit or the
hobbit lies or something like. On the bridge, it's been graffiti.
There was a shopping cart on the side of the
down in the creek, Like who brought a shopping cart
out there and just threw it over there. It's just
random stuff. But the thing out there, and I don't
know how well you were able to see it in
the documentary, but when we were out there and Sean
had noticed something in the distance and it was a light,
and I couldn't tell if it was like a reflection,
and I thought maybe it was like the reflection from
the truck that was parked down there, but obviously it
wasn't as in the middle of the road. And it's
hard to see in the film, but you can kind
of see it, and as we start to walk to it,
you can tell us kind of moving and then it
just kind of like disappears. That freaked me out because
I thought it was a person out there with like
it was almost like a greenish light. So that's not
like a normal colored light you would see like you
would think you'd see like a yellow light, or even
if somehow like a flashlight like a light, but this
was like a green color. So I thought maybe it
was like a reflection from a sign, but there is
no signs out there, so I don't know what that
could have been. We drove down there to try and
debunk it later, and we couldn't because there's nothing there,
which is vaguely in the same area as to where
he said he'd saw those years ago where he'd seen
this thing come out from behind a tree. This is
all in that same little area. And after we started
following the light is when we started getting the communication.
Like we had the spirit box out there with us.
We had the K two meter and you can hear
my son, which I'm that dad that brought my twelve
year old thirteen year old out with me because he
wanted to go, and he's got a hold of my
spirit or the K two meter, and you can hear him,
which I didn't even realize because I didn't hear him.
I's too focused on what was going on in front
of me with the light. He's saying that the lights
on that meter were going off as we were walking,
but I didn't didn't realize that until afterwards. And then
once we stopped, he brings it up again that the
meters are going off, and that's how we start to
pay attention to that, and that's when the things started
to respond to us. But you can also hear the
responses on the spirit box that coincide with what's going
on on the K two meter, and I'm very skeptical
of stuff like that, but it's too too much of
a coincidence for something to say words and make answers
that match up to questions or references and also make
things light up when you're asking it to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most people know. I'm not super excited about EVPs either,
unless they do as you say, directly correlate to what
is going on or what is being said. And actually,
at one point it does seem like you're kind of like, hey,
did you know you want us to stay? Do you
want us to go? And there is some reaction and
interaction there, and then at one point it almost sounds
like it says bye or goodbye on the spirit box.
So it's an interest at the very least.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, when it comes to spirit boxes
and stuff like that. I understand it's picking up frequencies
by going through the signals, so you interpret what you
hear and doesn't necessarily mean that's what it is. But
at the same time, it's creepy when it answers you
in something or responds to you, because if you think
about the signals of how fast it's going by, how
did they make that word at that exact time?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, that's when it's cool to actually be there.
And I'm sure that everyone had the chicken skin going on,
right like, oh that that was a little bit creepy. Yeah, well,
Brandon as much as you can. And I don't know that.
I know that you don't know every word that it's
going to be at this moment. I know a little
bit about what Seth grows through to get things distributed,
and it's not the easiest thing. But as of right now,
what is the plan for distribution and how people will
be able to see this?
Speaker 3: Originally it was supposed to be out on all the
streaming platforms, but I have not been able to get
it picked up for distribution, so it's still kind of
just sitting in limbo waiting to be quality controlled, and
it's been two months, so I don't know if that's
ever going to get picked up. I know the things
that people used to use to get things picked up
with has been changed here recently. And I've actually talked
to a few studios. I've had offers to have them,
but they wanted one hundred percent creative control. They wanted
to be able to do what they wanted. Like, I'm
not giving that up, so I turned that one down.
I have another offer, but they wanted me to pay
them fifty five hundred dollars upfront, and then they wanted
the first fifteen thousand dollars before I'd ever see anything.
I was like, no, not doing that either. So as
of right now, it's set up for I guess YouTube,
but I had to create a different YouTube channel, so
it's Tenfoil Tells Films is where I have it set
up to be launched on June twelfth.
Speaker 2: June twelfth excellent. And then of course if anyone wants
to just you know, you can type in the missic
Sinewa triangle. It is spelled exactly how you say it,
m I ss ISSI n e w a triangle. You
can search it that way, but it's probably easier just
to go to the tenfoil t Films YouTube channel then
to try to spell it. I understand so well. Brandon
also mentioned your podcast as well. In any of the
socials that people can find you on that you wanted
to shout out.
Speaker 3: You can find ten foil Tells podcasts anywhere you listen
to podcasts at so, Apple, Spotify, there is a YouTube channel.
It's again just ten foil Tells. You can find me
on any of the social media is just look up
ten foil Tells. Make sure you do find the correct
one because apparently there is a Australian version of tin
foil Tells. I do want to add this to there
because someone the reason you and I got connected years
ago was because of a friend I have. His name's Greg,
and he recently passed away. So I want to say
thanks to Greg for having you and I get connected,
because I think he was the one that originally reached
out to me to try and reach out to you
a couple of years ago, but he sadly passed away
last week, so I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry to hear that.
Speaker 3: I know he was he'd met you before at one
of the conventions or whatever. He had a photograph with
you at some point. I think it was like a
over in Ohio when the monster Yeah. Well, but now
he recently just passed away tragically.
Speaker 2: So oh my gosh, I'm sorry to hear that. I
think I remember him bringing that up when we met
at Monsterfest about oh, I'm the one that you know
but you and Brannett. Yeah, I do. I do recall that.
Very nice man. That's that's sad to hear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it, indeed, on a a sad note.
But I I was in the middle of recording someone
last week when I found out about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's just one of those things like I went
to viewing and everything. But I felt like he made
the connection for you and I to get together. So
I just want to kind of honor him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he sure did. We'll rest in peace to Greg.
Super nice guy. Yeah. Was he in? I'm trying to
recall was he in? I mean, he was obviously closer
to you than he was to us in Ohio where
he met us at Monsterfest, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lives He lived about fifty minutes north of where
I live. There is one other thing that we can
end on a positive. Not too many people know this
because it's not like I'm not much of a boaster
or anything. But this is actually kind of an interesting thing.
You know the movie that came out recently with Emma
Stone where she's bald, like they shaved her head so
she thought she was an alien.
Speaker 2: I've seen the promo photos, but I don't know much
about that film or what's doing with that.
Speaker 3: It's called Bogonia. It came out. It's on Netflix right now.
It came out last year. It was nominated for Academy Award.
You can actually hear me in that movie, really, when
he's riding his bicycle to work. He's listening to my podcast.
Speaker 2: Get Out of Here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my name and podcast are in the Indian credits.
Speaker 2: That is so cool. Was there a certain nod to
a certain episode or anything, or.
Speaker 3: They licensed episode ninety nine from me?
Speaker 2: What episode is that? What were you discussing in episode
ninety nine?
Speaker 3: The cover up of alien craft and technologies, which goes
along with what the movie is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they reached out.
Speaker 3: They reached out to me a couple of years ago,
and it literally took almost a year before it to
ever come out. After that, they've reached out to me,
but they took the director apparently, of all people. I
don't know how he found my podcast, but he told
them that he wanted the audio from that episode. So
the studio contacted me, and I thought it was a
scam it first, I bet, but come to find out
is actually a real thing. And then sure enough, at
the end of the movie, you see my name in
the podcast name man.
Speaker 2: That is very cool. Well, you do have that nice
low baritone voice, you know, for traditional radio and podcasts,
so that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Everyone tells me I have a radio voice. It was like, okay, you.
Speaker 2: Definitely do, see and I'm even trying to go lower
as I talk. So yeah, I mean that's why traditionally,
you know, there was no women in radio back in
the day, was you know, wors and Wells and all
these people with these beautiful low voices, you know. So,
and I think still to this day, even myself, I
prefer to listen to a male, a man speaking on podcasts.
And that's crazy coming for me. Probably people are like,
what are you done? Why would you even say that
out loud? But that damn it, that is the truth.
So there you go, Hey, yeah, that is that is
a that is a cool little tidbit, Brandon, very cool
to look for that.
Speaker 3: The only reason I brought that up again is because
Greg kept telling me I don't talk about stuff like
that enough, So I said, from now on, I'll mention it.
Just for he kept giving me crap for never bringing
stuff up like that. I was like, I'm a humble
type of a person. I don't try and go out
there boast things.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you did so again in honor
of Greg. Swinging back to Greg, that's another non to him.
So I'm glad that you did mention that. That is cool.
I will be, uh, I did. I actually went the
second you said the name. Now I remember it's kind
of got uh an interesting font to the Pogonia on Netflix.
So now I will uh, I will be. I won't
be listening for that, I'll go I know that guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's a I went solid in theaters and
it was kind of weird, for real, hearing your voice
like there's a music playing, so it's harder to but
it's right after, like you hear for the first like
thirty seconds and it clips to something else and it
comes back with him riding the bike again and you
can't really hear me talking.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. You're like looking around like, yeah, that's that's me. Everybody.
Speaker 3: It was just me and my family. I think there's
like two other people in there. So we went opening
night on like a Wednesday, and the one was in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to watch that. I I this second
you said, I'm like, oh, I remember that because I
remember going, gosh, that's a those are that's an interesting font.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's an interesting movie to be honest, Like,
I'm not just saying it just because they use my stuff,
and it was like, it's just it's a kind of
funny but also makes you think, hmmm, I have to
check that out.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's very cool. Congrats on that, Brandon and I.
Congrats on the doc I enjoyed it. It's always nice
to be taken transported as close as you can get
without actually going there yourself and seeing these locations in
the documentaries. That's why I also love to go and
film with the guys at STM. You know, it's just
it's different to go there for yourself, isn't that.
Speaker 3: For me? It's just in my backyards. I don't really
have to go anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which also can be a bad thing because you've
also had your own experiences and you don't need to
be hey, look at me and light the light your
own flame even higher because you've already had stuff at
your own house too, so you know you don't you
don't need any extra bits at the house. That makes
it a little different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my youngest now he has imaginary friends too. I
was like, here we go again.
Speaker 2: M Like, that sounds familiar. We call them imaginary friends,
but they're not actually quite as imaginary as others might
like to think. It's not a pretty little box.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He his friend is named Johnson and he's four years
old and has a mustache.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's nice.
Speaker 2: Sounds like Johnson's bullshitting, is what Johnson's doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told him that Johnson is not his friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnson needs to take a hike. Johnson needs to
not be messing with your kid, is what needs to
be happening.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: So a couple of this happened after we spoke the
last time. But I was doing an event and a
lady came up, and this is it's creepy in a sense.
Because I don't understand like the vibes that people get.
But she claimed that she was a medium and something
was telling her to tell me that there are three
spirits in the house. One is of the little girl
she drowned, not on the property, but down along the
stream somewhere, which makes sense because obviously where I lived,
there's all sorts of stuff around here, so she just
passes through. And that was the one that was being
friendly with my daughter. And there's another one that's playful,
but he's just on the ground itself, like he's not harmony,
that he just here. But then there's one that's dark.
And if we don't figure out I'm trying to word
it the exact way, if we don't figure it out
before the boy turns fourteen, it'll be too late.
Speaker 2: Oh lovely.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I have a thirteen year old,
so I have till next year to figure it out.
Or and my son, my youngest, he'll be five. So
I was like, I either got nine years or I've
got like less than a year. I was like, could
you be any more vague?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was just gonna say, I mean, she comes
up with this information but then has no follow up
on how to be of help with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or to be more specific, Yeah, she walked away.
She just wanted me to know that that's what the
spirit guides were telling her, and then she went off
about her business and I never seen her again.
Speaker 2: Your daughter was all I mean, obviously there were your
sons there too. No, okay, And what do you mean
she's being really friendly with your daughter?
Speaker 3: This is an event that I was speaking at, So
this is none of my kids were even there. Oh okay,
I don't know how she even knew how to have
had a boy.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh. Well, I mean, I guess she's a psychic medium.
But then again, you come with this very ominous message.
Oh like, oh you have till he's fourteen? Good luck?
Well really?
Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's something that's been haunting me in the
back of my mind, is like, I've done everything I
can to try and make things protected around here. But
what are you supposed to do when someone randomly just
comes around and gives you some sort of vague information?
Do you believe it or just ignore it?
Speaker 2: Right? Okay, just hypothetical. And I know that you have
your own podcast. It's not like she can't find you.
But if she was watching right now, if she could see,
would you say something to her like get back in touch,
or can you help me out any more than this
or anything?
Speaker 3: If she is listening right now, and I've mentioned this
on my show before, I think I would like to
know which kid you're talking about. If the spirits you're
telling me something like is it my soon to be
fourteen year old or my youngest because fourteen year olds
one or the thirteen year olds will on that goes
out and helps me film this type of stuff. He
enjoys it. My youngest one is now talking to a
mustache four year old, so I'm almost clined to believe
is probably the younger one.
Speaker 2: Right, So the thirteen year old, he hasn't been seeing anything.
He hasn't really spoken much about that.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, have been. My oldest are downstairs and they
don't ever talk about anything like that. The biggest thing
that he's freaked out by is we have a wood
burner and it's down in the basement where their rooms are,
and he keeps her noises in the wood burner. Well,
the wood burner is notorious or trapping birds. They come
through the chimney. So I opened it the other day
and a birdbolt flew into my face. Yeah, that's the
only thing that freaks him out. He's not afraid of
ghost or anything like that. I don't think he believes
in any of it.
Speaker 2: So what's what's what's Johnson's deal? What's he saying to
your four year old?
Speaker 3: He has never said anything besides the fact that he's
coming to his birthday party. Yeah, Johnson's coming to his
birthday party. Johnson and him are playing and I don't know,
he doesn't get too specific about what him and Johnson.
Speaker 2: Are doing, right, Yeah, Johnson's full of shisa is what
that is? That is immediately your mind just goes to
a dark place with that. I mean obviously thinks as
a kid with a four you know, with a mustache.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, no, no, I giggled about it because
I thought it was funny at first, But the more
I think about it's like, it's not really funny. It's
pretty creepy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's not. It's not it's not funny. It's
not good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He hasn't mentioned even the last couple of days, So
we'll see. This is like a very recent.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, just a couple of days. It's only
been a couple of days since he last mentioned him.
Does he does he see Johnson in his bedroom?
Speaker 3: He will randomly just start talking about his friend Johnson.
And before he talked about his other house that he
lived in and he had other brothers and sisters. We
always just talked overactive imagination because he's a little kid.
But now he's being specific with names again. And that's
what my daughter had started being right because she had
that one named Chloe. It was like, No, I was like,
what is it with you kids and creepy people? Like
when we lived in our other house, we never had
any problems like this. So I still think it's because
of the location of where we're at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the closest body of water to you again.
Speaker 3: Well, if you go two miles south, there's the Walbash River,
and if you go two miles north is the Eel
River right between both rivers. So here's another interesting thing
for the true crime people. I don't know if you're
familiar with the Delphi murders, the two little girls that
were murdered, you were right along the Deer Creek. But
if you follow the river streams from here, the Hill
River connects to the Walbash River and Logan Sport, which
is where one of the guys had talked about seeing
that orbit in his house that was floating in the documentary.
He was from over in that area. And then if
you follow that down it connects into the town of Delphi,
which is the same area where the two little girls
were murdered, right along that river. So if you follow
these rivers, there have been so many murders along them,
not just here. Like when I was digging for information
and there was going to be a true true crime
part of my documentary, but I'd already had like eighty
five minutes, so I didn't even get into any of that.
There have been so many murders along these rivers over
the years, like right from where they'd seen like this
one location had multiple dog man sightings just literally upstream
they'd found this is I think in just a couple
of years ago they found a girl and I don't
know if she'd been murdered or she'd drowned her up,
but they found her body along the river she'd been missing.
And then there's been murders all along the Mississinoma. Obviously,
the Native Americans but like even recent times, there's been
murders along the river, bodies get dumped in there. Even
in the nineteen thirties, the mafia from Chicago used to
come down here. This is again I can't verify this
because it's not like the mafia took any documentation of it.
But that same general area where the two rivers meet,
they used to have a building out there and that's
where they kind of stored some of their booze and
stuff during prohibition days. There's always talks about having like
local gang fights between the mafia people. And he used
to dump the bodies in the river. So again, what
is what the rivers around here? And here I am
right in the middle.
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, that's probably not helping you, but it's not
like any of us. It's not like you can just
pack up and move at a whim and just you know,
as a just in case, you know, and plus you
don't even know if that would rectify or fix anything.
But Johnson sounds like a real a hole and I
think you should leave your kid alone. I don't like
hearing that at all, Brendon, and I hope you keep
me in a loop with that one, because that's not
that creeps me the hell out. The second he said that,
I'm like, oh God, that's dark. That's I don't want.
That's not good.
Speaker 3: He's the same one that told us years ago, and
I think I talked about it in the first episode
where he's seeing ghosts in the ceiling in our bedroom
and he kept saying ghost when he could bear speak
and he was afraid of something. Yeah, now he's the
one seeing Johnson. And of all names too, like my
friend John who helped film stuff, like, his name's john
So I originally thought maybe he was just making it
up because his friend, my friend John he's saying Johnson.
But then the mustache. He's four years old, he's got
a mustache, and everything is like, is he making this up?
Or is he's literally seen something that he thinks is
his friend named Johnson.
Speaker 2: Well, and considering you do a podcast very similar to mine,
you know how these things work, and you wonder if
the ghosts and the ceiling are one and the same
as Johnson, that is supposed to be this child with
a mustache interacting with your son, if it's just taken
a different form, a form that he feels comfortable to
interact with not good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I do have video of this and I
could probably my wife would be mad if I sent it,
but I could send it a couple This was will
be two years of coming October, I think. But we
have a little remote control green Goblin and it's my
son's and when you press the button and goes forward,
you press the button and goes backwards. I can't say
this is paranormal, but again, when you see things and
it responds to something, you say, creep shout. It was
moving by itself, and I started recording it, and so
did my like my son, my older son. On my video,
you can see the remote still laying on the ground
and it's moving by itself. On his, when he was
recording it, he didn't think because obviously not old enough
to think about having to have the remote in there.
But on his video, my wife comes in and she
gets mad at us for screwing around with the thing,
saying like it's a ghost or whatever, because we don't
acknowledge that type stuff. So she says, if you want
them to leave you alone, go backwards, and it goes
backwards and you hear it starts screaming and Gussie because
it freaks her out, but it instantly responded to her
and went backwards. Yeah, I took the batteries out of it,
and yeah, like I ain't messing with this stuff again.
But we go, we go weeks to months at a
time when nothing weird happening, and then randomly stuff happens.
Like again, we've been pretty fine up until here recently,
now Johnson shows up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnson's turn. I can we already know that? Uh
that's a steel wolf in sheep's clothing, is what it
sounds like? Nothing friendly or nice about that, And I
just I just worried because the last time that we talked,
shortly after you had the things going on in your
recording studio. So I just flies, Yeah, just other weird
things going on. So I guess we'll see what happens.
But Brandon, thank you so much for coming back on
to share. It sounds like you have already enough to
create a part two for a Triangle part two documentary.
Speaker 3: I keep getting asked about that, and to be honest,
I think what I'm going to do is focus on
one specific spot and do like my own episode, like
my whole mini doc of just that one specific episode.
So like one at the battlegrounds want at Oke Pinok.
I've got some other places that are around here too
that didn't make the documentary that I'm going to hit up.
There's a cemetery that everyone kept telling me I needed
to go to, and I'm like, man, I think cemetaries
are kind of cliche. But apparently when I was talking
to some guy, he said a hell hound came after him.
This was just a couple of weeks ago. When I
was talking to him, he said years ago that he
was over in the cemetery and a hellhound came after him.
And I'm thinking, like the hell hound stories that we
hear out by the Indian burial grounds, where these things
chase you along the roads, this one was bipedal. So
I said, it sounds like a dog man. He's like, no,
it's a hellhound. I was like, okay, So he was
convinced of what he believes it to be. But and
then some other lady had talked about seeing stuff around
there too, So last couple of weeks someone has mentioned
this cemetery. I was like, all right, well, I think
it's worth looking into. So for anyone listening, you might
start seeing stuff on the Tinfoiltel Films page.
Speaker 2: Very cool. Yeah, what an active area with all kinds
of things, bad people, bad possible curses and blood on
the land and all of the usual suspects for basically
your your perfect recipe for paranormal activity, that's for sure. Yeah, well,
thanks again Brandon, And again, guys, if you want to
hear Brandon's retelling of that dog man for lack of
a better term, that he saw, that was episode four
fifty one, and don't forget to find him on Tinfoil
Tinfoil Tales podcast wherever you find your podcast. And brendanm
crossed my fingers that Johnson buzzes off, but I would
like to be kept in the loop as to what's
going on there.
Speaker 3: Definitely. I don't think we're gonna hear much from Johnson
here after this week. I'm planning on doing another one
of my little cleansings.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 3: We'll see if we got Johnson good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs to bye boy see ye start messing
with the kids. That's that's something different. Mama Bears and
Papa Bears don't like that sort of thing. So yeah,
all right, Brandon, until next time.
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somewhere else.
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really convinced.
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