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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember what we did with the rn C, Well, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do the exact same damn thing with the DNC.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, Night one heavy hitters.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now on the stage is former Secretary of State

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary Clinton. Lists Drop in and see what she's talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not just electing a president. We're uplifting our nation.

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<v Speaker 4>We're opening the promise of America wide enough for everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>Together.

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<v Speaker 4>We put a lot of cracks in the highest hardest

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<v Speaker 4>glass ceiling, and tonight, tonight so close to breaking through

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<v Speaker 4>once and for all.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell you what I see through all.

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<v Speaker 4>Those cracks, and why it matters for each in every

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<v Speaker 4>one of us.

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<v Speaker 5>What do I see?

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<v Speaker 3>I see freedom.

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<v Speaker 4>I see the freedom to make our own decisions about

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<v Speaker 4>our health, our lives, our loves, our families. The freedom

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<v Speaker 4>to work with dignity and prosper to worship as we

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<v Speaker 4>choose or not, to speak our minds freely and honestly.

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<v Speaker 4>I see freedom from fear and intimidation, from violence and injustice,

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<v Speaker 4>from chaos and corruption. I see the freedom to look

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<v Speaker 4>our children in the eye and say in America, you

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<v Speaker 4>can go as far as your hard work and talent

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<v Speaker 4>will take.

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<v Speaker 5>You and mean it. And you know what, And the.

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<v Speaker 4>Other side of that glass ceiling is Kamala Harris raising

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<v Speaker 4>her hand and taking the oath of office as our

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<v Speaker 4>forty seventh President.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>Because, my friends, when a barrier falls for one of us,

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<v Speaker 4>it falls, it falls and clears the way for all

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<v Speaker 4>of us. So for the next seventy eight days, we

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<v Speaker 4>need to work harder than we ever have. We need

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<v Speaker 4>to beat back the dangers that Trump and his allies

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<v Speaker 4>pose to the rule of law and our way of life.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't get distracted or complacent. Talk to your friends and neighbors. Volunteer,

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<v Speaker 4>be proud champions for the truth and for the contre.

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<v Speaker 5>That we all love of.

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<v Speaker 4>I want, I want my grandchildren and their grandchildren to

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<v Speaker 4>know I was here at this moment, that we were here,

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<v Speaker 4>and that we were with Kamala Harris every step of

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<v Speaker 4>the way. This is our time, America.

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<v Speaker 5>This is when we stand up.

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<v Speaker 4>This is when we breakthrough the future's hair.

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<v Speaker 5>It's at our grass.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go win it.

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<v Speaker 2>These former Secretary of State former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 2>addressing the DNC, we'll be bouncing in and out the

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<v Speaker 2>first night.

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<v Speaker 3>Well let me let me back up.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was I think it was second grade,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, it was second grade, because it was missus

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<v Speaker 2>Cochrane's class, and she, bless her heart, to her credit,

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<v Speaker 2>she was the one who made it a point of

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<v Speaker 2>teaching basically government to second graders. We were learning about

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<v Speaker 2>Carter versus Ford and how we would elect a president,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember thinking, wow, this is so interesting, at

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<v Speaker 2>least in a second grader's mind.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can pinpoint that time. That was the moment I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think I started to fall in love with the American

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<v Speaker 2>political process. Of course it doesn't look like that now,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm saying back then it sparked this interest in

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<v Speaker 2>me and I because it was later that year during

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<v Speaker 2>that same election, I was watching the DNC and the

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<v Speaker 2>RNC for the first time. But I remember watching the

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<v Speaker 2>DNC and I was mesmerized by the keynote speaker Night one.

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<v Speaker 2>And the keynote speaker of Night one is usually someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's really really talented as an orator, possibly a future

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<v Speaker 2>leader or presidential hopeful in the party. So the night

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<v Speaker 2>one keynote speaker in a conventional cycle would have someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to set the tone, and there was this speaker,

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<v Speaker 2>the late Congresswoman Barbara Jordan, one of the best orators

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<v Speaker 2>I have ever heard.

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<v Speaker 3>If I could do anything one tenth of.

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<v Speaker 2>What she did that night or what she did during

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<v Speaker 2>nixon impeachment pre impeachment hearings, one of the greatest orators ever.

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<v Speaker 2>But it sparked my interests in just following politics and

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<v Speaker 2>how I fell in love with it to this day

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<v Speaker 2>and I haven't missed an RNC or a DNC, at

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<v Speaker 2>least on TV ever since. And this is a night,

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<v Speaker 2>I think where we can actually celebrate, as we did

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<v Speaker 2>a month ago, celebrate how we go about electing a

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<v Speaker 2>president in this country. And I know it's real easy

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<v Speaker 2>to be partisan, it's real easy to be cynical. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you take a step back and take your personal

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<v Speaker 2>desires out of it, you should be just kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of cool how the country, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>your political stripes, is coming together to choose our next leader.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not often it's not often that you have a

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<v Speaker 2>sitting president who's not running for reelection. You usually have

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<v Speaker 2>an incumbent or a two term president who's termed out.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is where I said this earlier today in

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<v Speaker 2>my television hit. We're living through extraordinary times and if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't realize it, then you don't grasp the enormity

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<v Speaker 2>of the moment. I'll say the magnitude of the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are living through history. The idea of an

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<v Speaker 2>incumbent president four months before the election stepping aside and

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<v Speaker 2>VP stepping up. We had something similar in nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 2>eight with President LBJ and Humphrey, but not like this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was much more contentious the Democratic Party. They basically

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<v Speaker 2>had a a fight, a war on the floor of

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<v Speaker 2>the convention. As far as nominating someone else, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening here in Chicago. But I would say, really

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to how this process is coming together, regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of who you're rooting for, and we will be listening

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the heavy hitters. Not often do you

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<v Speaker 2>have three presidents or former presidents speaking at one convention.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just unheard of.

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<v Speaker 2>And you would have had four if President Carter wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>on his literal deathbed. So that's something something can be historic,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't have to like it. Just know that

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<v Speaker 2>we are living through history some of the big heavy hitters.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight in day one, Sean Fain, president of the United

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<v Speaker 2>Auto Workers Union. Of course you heard Secretary Clinton, the

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<v Speaker 2>first lady, Joe Biden will be speaking and the keynote,

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<v Speaker 2>which is really odd.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have a sitting president do a keynote.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually the sitting president is the person that you're renominating,

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<v Speaker 2>which on the final night, which is customarily Thursday. But

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<v Speaker 2>to have Joe Biden speaking the first night tells you

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<v Speaker 2>how unusual all of this is. And we'll bring that

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<v Speaker 2>to you later on. I have some other thoughts about

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<v Speaker 2>our political process, where we are at this time in America,

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<v Speaker 2>and so much more. I don't get to talk as

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<v Speaker 2>much politics here or later with Mo Kelly. I usually

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<v Speaker 2>do it for my other properties. You might have seen

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<v Speaker 2>me on Spectrum. No, you didn't see me on Spectrum

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<v Speaker 2>because you were all asleep. I was on Spectrum in

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<v Speaker 2>sixth fifteen, six thirty in the morning, bleary eye.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just woo. This day cannot end soon enough. That

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<v Speaker 3>was only like twelve hours ago. Were just getting started.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, we'll help more, just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the DNC is going right now. Just in case

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't know, KFI is owned. Gary and Shannon are

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<v Speaker 2>broadcasting live all this week from the city of Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>covering the DNC. I'm just playing around the periphery. We

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<v Speaker 2>will drop in and out of the convention. But it

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<v Speaker 2>got me nostalgic for when I was growing up and

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<v Speaker 2>fell in love with the American political process, before we

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<v Speaker 2>had all this partisanship or the different type of partisanship

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<v Speaker 2>that we have today. It was a much more civil time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a much more conventional time. That's the word

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<v Speaker 2>I would use. And you got to learn the process.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as how in a party sense, we go

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<v Speaker 2>about choosing our eventual president, and oftentimes I hear from

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<v Speaker 2>people sie, we need to have more parties. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to have more than a two parties system. We've always

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<v Speaker 2>had more than two parties. You don't think the Green

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<v Speaker 2>Party is a party? Do you remember the Constitution Party?

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<v Speaker 2>What about Peace and Freedom? Oh Ross Perot when he

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<v Speaker 2>was running as an independent. He was for a while

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<v Speaker 2>he was part of the Reform Party. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to go back Strom Thurman and the Dixiecrats,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the Libertarian Party, the Alliance Party, if you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to dig in the weeds. My point is

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<v Speaker 2>we've always had other options. So why did we always

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<v Speaker 2>end up with a Republican or a Democrat. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty simple. It's because those parties have infrastructure. Those parties

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<v Speaker 2>have people on the ground who are working to get

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<v Speaker 2>people elected at off levels in government other than just president.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you've never heard about a Green Party candidate

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<v Speaker 2>for governor. You never heard about a Green Party candidate

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<v Speaker 2>for mayor or, I don't know, comptroller, insurance commissioner, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're not a functioning party on that level.

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<v Speaker 3>They will have their convention air quotes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they'll go to I don't know, a holiday inn

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere in San Diego on a Friday night. They'll get

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<v Speaker 2>liquored up, have a rage and Keiger, and then they'll

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<v Speaker 2>come out Sunday and say, Jill Stein is our nominee.

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<v Speaker 2>You have noticed that they don't have an actual primary. Why,

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<v Speaker 2>because parties get to choose their nominees. However, they want

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<v Speaker 2>the whole primemary system. A lot of people don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what they don't remember. It didn't even include It did

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<v Speaker 2>not include all fifty states until well until the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't even both parties at that point. The

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<v Speaker 2>primaries are just a marketing survey. For a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth century, they just had, you know, a few states.

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<v Speaker 2>They would just say, hey, you very important states, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about this person or that person?

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<v Speaker 3>Then they come up with a nominee.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the selection process is much more comprehensive. You got

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<v Speaker 2>all fifty states, and then they start tweaking the rules

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<v Speaker 2>about who's allowed to vote in the primaries. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a closed primary, so you have to be a registered Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a closed primary. You have to be a registered Democrat.

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<v Speaker 2>You independents, you can't vote in these primaries, like in California,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a closed primary. I'm an independent, I can't vote

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<v Speaker 2>in the presidential primaries.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, they don't want to hear what I

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<v Speaker 3>have to say. But it's evolved and it's a marketing survey.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've used the analogy before, but I think it

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<v Speaker 2>still holds. It's like these parties are private corporations. Call

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<v Speaker 2>it McDonald's, call it gravenus missile McDonald's. They do what

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<v Speaker 2>they sell hamburgers. Now, they may ask you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they may email you and say, hey, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about us selling I don't know, hot dogs. And

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<v Speaker 2>they'll go around and they'll ask Mark Ronald, they'll ask Steph,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll ask me, they'll ask to all of they

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<v Speaker 2>may even ask Chris Little. Of all people, they may

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<v Speaker 2>ask Chris Little, hey, what do you think about selling

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<v Speaker 2>hot dogs at McDonald's. And let's say, hypothetically, all of

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<v Speaker 2>us say, you damn right, I want to eat hot

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<v Speaker 3>You know what McDonald's is gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna say, Okay, thank you for you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a free coupon for a file of fish. But since

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<v Speaker 2>we're McDonald's, we're going to just go ahead and stick

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<v Speaker 2>with hamburgers. Maybe we'll even sell some chicken nuggets and

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<v Speaker 2>even say what you asked us. Yes, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>an opinion survey. That's what primaries are. That's how they

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<v Speaker 2>can change the rules. That's how they can have someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Joe Biden be forced out and step aside. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Tamala Harris talking about tonight, can step right in

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, oh my gosh, you've undermined democracy. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a private marketing survey. It's not a public election.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't understand how their own country works, or their

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<v Speaker 2>can do what they've done. No, you can't sue because

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<v Speaker 2>they've already written this into the bylaws for the eventuality

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<v Speaker 2>just like this. You can say delegates, super delegates, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually a private corporation working in its own best interests,

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<v Speaker 2>And they knew that if we have Joe Biden in November,

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<v Speaker 2>step aside for the good of the party. But I

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<v Speaker 3>Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>We need you to step aside for the good of

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<v Speaker 2>the parties, not just you. It's about down ballot races.

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate, We're going to lose the Oval office. If

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<v Speaker 2>why we are here where we are. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>very different. I was talking about the Green Party how

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<v Speaker 2>for the weekend. It's not very different from that. Parties

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<v Speaker 2>get to choose their candidate however they see fit. The

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<v Speaker 2>rules for the Republicans are not the same as the

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<v Speaker 2>rules for the Democrats. And when you opt in as

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<v Speaker 3>Know you're going to like the rules or you're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to like the rules. But the rules are the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Them as the rules, as they say, and they created

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<v Speaker 2>them for the benefit of the party. And remember how

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<v Speaker 2>they pushed Hillary Clinton aside when Barack Obama was running

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been a contested convention. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>party leadership went to Hillary and said, Hills, Uh, for

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<v Speaker 2>the good of the party, we need you to step aside.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we need to have a unified convention. And Hillary said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to step aside a chance I can

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<v Speaker 2>still win this.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but it will.

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<v Speaker 2>Create party friction and we'd have a broker convention and

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<v Speaker 2>we can't have that going into the election. There are

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of examples like this, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, Bernie, we need you to step aside. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be Hillary. Gotta have a united party. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not unusual. The only thing unusual is you had

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<v Speaker 3>And they pushed him aside. But that's how parties work.

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<v Speaker 3>These aren't public elections. It's not like you're saying you're

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<v Speaker 3>making my vote not matter. It never did matter.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's it's McDonald's. It's der venus missile.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. On the other other hand, you can say Dervenus sstil.

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<v Speaker 3>They try to sell everything.

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<v Speaker 2>They try to sell hamburgers, they try to sell hot dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>they sell corn dogs, chili dogs, I think, chicken fingers,

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<v Speaker 3>Gets them anywhere. Hey, did they still have that Jerina

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<v Speaker 3>nutsil across the street? Are they still open?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so. Someone to go because I'm hungry now.

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<v Speaker 7>If polypsyde classes were more tube steak based, like the

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<v Speaker 7>explanations that you're giving right now, everybody would have gotten

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<v Speaker 7>better grades.

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<v Speaker 2>All I'm saying is if you put it in terms

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<v Speaker 2>that people kind of understand and relate to, it makes

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<v Speaker 2>it all better. Now, Stefan, I know you got to work,

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<v Speaker 2>but during this break, I would like two corn dogs

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<v Speaker 2>and a chili cheese dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Please, I'll pay for it. You don't. You don't like

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<v Speaker 3>chili cheese dogs. Oh, I know I'm gonna know.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had that, I would pay for it, and actually, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all would pay for it too.

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<v Speaker 3>But it would taste good going down. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you eat stuff every now and then because you

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<v Speaker 2>have a taste for it, and then it reminds you

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<v Speaker 2>why you don't eat it all the time like that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but I guess I understand what you're saying. Place

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<v Speaker 3>is like, you'll never forget that I have.

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<v Speaker 2>A taste for I do have a taste for jernastcil

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. I pass it every single day and

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<v Speaker 2>I tell myself no every single day. But there's going

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<v Speaker 2>So Rina stcil is good. I don't care what anyone says.

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<v Speaker 2>That stuff tastes good.

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<v Speaker 3>I have never once eaten what never once? Wow? You

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<v Speaker 3>half black men have never eaten it? As that's how

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<v Speaker 3>is this a black thing? Come on, dude, well you

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<v Speaker 3>got to explain it to Okay, let me just say, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>have you ever eaten at church Is Fried Chicken? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever eaten at pop Eyes? Once?

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, Pioneer he barely at KFC for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time? True, I really, Oh my goodness, that's

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<v Speaker 2>right because we had to introduce you to soul food.

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<v Speaker 3>It's shameful, isn't it. I got a lot of learning

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Stephan, do you need like my card or what

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<v Speaker 2>it's Later with mo Kelly? Can't I answers forty We're

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<v Speaker 6>Let me ask you this. Do you think Jimmy is

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<v Speaker 7>On.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think the cod is the neat loaf.

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<v Speaker 3>Who the hell today?

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<v Speaker 6>Erodicman Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 6>I am so shiit of Washington and Orleans whites and

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<v Speaker 6>all them politicians down there, and them congressman.

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<v Speaker 3>And the congressman.

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<v Speaker 6>Boy, I bet you will find none of them congressman

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<v Speaker 6>signing down their electric blackest tonight. Of course, if they

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<v Speaker 6>did their secretaries to get up and go home. Oh readers,

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<v Speaker 6>the Democrats is doing the whole of the Democratic and

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<v Speaker 6>you put him in there. It's the place sha head

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<v Speaker 6>on you when you come back in the polls. But

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<v Speaker 6>the Democrats way or running. This car used to go

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<v Speaker 6>tell us all how we ought to make sacrifices.

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<v Speaker 6>But they're all gonna have us over the hill to

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<v Speaker 6>there because we ain't got no guess. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 6>to walk it. Well, the reader Digest says walking is

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<v Speaker 6>very good for you. That ain't that lovely to read us?

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<v Speaker 2>Then we're gonna tell her alive everywhere on the iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 2>app and I was talking with Mark Ronner during the

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<v Speaker 2>have seen just about every episode of every Norman Lear

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<v Speaker 2>memory of them, but I remember certain sentiments and episode

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<v Speaker 2>and storylines. And I just remember that soliloquy from Archie Bunker.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just said, oh, I got to go find it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was, Thank goodness YouTube it was there.

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<v Speaker 7>That's off, brilliant cut, that's off, and it's so aproa

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<v Speaker 7>po It still fits today if you if you if

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<v Speaker 7>I played more of it, he goes into his conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 2>It was press yet it was almost it was it

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Lear was a genius.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, question, But we're talking about the DNC and politics

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<v Speaker 2>more generally. Will drop in and out if it warrants it.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on in Chicago? Something else I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about with regard to Chicago. Kamala Harris, vice President,

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't had any missteps as of yet, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>still a I wouldn't say a dangerous moment, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would say it is a delicate moment for the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Given the protests which have already started in Chicago. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be protests, and it's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be clear whether it's protests just about Gaza, or if

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<v Speaker 2>it's anti Israel, or is it anti Joe Biden with

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<v Speaker 3>How that's all going to shake out.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's more a question of how it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be covered and whether it starts to take away any

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<v Speaker 2>real emphasis on the DNC. If the story becomes more

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<v Speaker 2>about the protests than the DNC itself, then the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>there as far as which way it will go. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>protests are unpredictable. Of course you're gonna have provocateurs. Of

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<v Speaker 2>course you're gonna have agitators. But the only thing I

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<v Speaker 2>can like it it too. When I was working in

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<v Speaker 2>my previous radio gig, we went to both the DNC

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<v Speaker 2>and RNC in two thousand and eight. In two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>But what they did was the protesters could not get

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<v Speaker 2>you could protest, but you are so far away from

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<v Speaker 2>the press and the goings on of the convention it

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, I'm pretty sure that they probably did the

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<v Speaker 7>Do you not get the impression from some of the

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<v Speaker 7>coverage that we've all seen that some in the press

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<v Speaker 2>They I think every reporter, and I'm going to generalize

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<v Speaker 2>every reporter, every news person wants to have their own

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<v Speaker 7>But they're committing that quantum physics observational fallacy thing by

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<v Speaker 2>You affect the outcome, right, You're not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>major part of the story or nothing at all.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you what it reminds me of is all

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<v Speaker 7>the hack journalists that we heard predicting a recession because

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<v Speaker 7>it would have given him something, something exciting to report on,

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<v Speaker 7>and it never happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was a prediction of recession for more than

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<v Speaker 2>one presidential election cycle. Now it is fair to say

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<v Speaker 2>that we are due for one, and we if we

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<v Speaker 2>were to use history as a guide, Yeah, if we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a pandemic and we didn't have other factors

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<v Speaker 2>to artificially prop up our economy for an extended period

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<v Speaker 2>of time, I think possibly would have hit recession.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually thought there would have been one.

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<v Speaker 7>But is I believed based on you know, the voluminous stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>I consumed that a lot of reporters were rooting for

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<v Speaker 7>a recession because they thought that'd be sexier to report

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<v Speaker 7>on than good news.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's think about this.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a time near the end of the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration when when back when the Dow Jones and a

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<v Speaker 2>stock market actually mattered. It doesn't matter now as an

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<v Speaker 2>economic indicator, but back then its supposedly mattered. Where we

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<v Speaker 2>had dropped down to eighteen thousand, and that was one

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<v Speaker 2>point I thought, Okay, we might be heading that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But then, you know, but that was also running parallel

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<v Speaker 2>to the pandemic. So we had interest rates frozen at zero,

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<v Speaker 2>which never happens, I mean never, So you had things

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<v Speaker 2>working against the working for a recession.

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<v Speaker 3>If that makes sense, it does.

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<v Speaker 7>My point is that I just I'm seeing more than

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<v Speaker 7>I ever really have noticed in my life of mainstream,

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<v Speaker 7>big time journalists trying to put a thumb on the

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<v Speaker 7>scale because it will benefit them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think big time journalists these dates are usually

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<v Speaker 2>connected to a cable news network, and that I think

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<v Speaker 2>clouds the issue where it's less about journalism and more

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<v Speaker 2>about the individual, not the outlet.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, them becoming journalism stars, selling books, getting access to

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<v Speaker 7>people they didn't have access to before.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really quite a wonder to behold, and not in

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<v Speaker 3>a good sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough if I'm wrong, But I don't remember in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighties or nineteen seventies in which every major journalist

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<v Speaker 2>had a book that they were selling. No you reported

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<v Speaker 2>the news wood Word in Bernstein. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>did their book until way down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't answer that I don't know that. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, put it this way, every major reporter anchor has

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<v Speaker 2>a book now, every single one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean there's the whole generation of journalists who were

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<v Speaker 7>inspired by Woodward in Bernstein. Me it was Carl Koleshe

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<v Speaker 7>at the Nightstalker. What we all have our journalism models.

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<v Speaker 7>Mine was Coleshak.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, honestly, for me, I was always a Cronkite fan.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh of course, if only because he was. And also.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Gray, because I remember very faintly his his call

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<v Speaker 2>for the Munich Olympics with the Israeli athletes and that

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<v Speaker 2>how he handled that live in the moment, and those

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<v Speaker 2>are the things that just stick with me, is like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a prob.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember that call?

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<v Speaker 7>Only in the most skeletal way, but I mean, just

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<v Speaker 7>what he said, they're all gone, Okay, so you're talking

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<v Speaker 7>about the kidnapping, yes, yes, the Munich Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, right right right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That type of journalism where you're you're dealing with news

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<v Speaker 2>as it's happening in front of you, and you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to put some sort of perspective on something, which is

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<v Speaker 2>it's just completely unprecedented, completely unheard of, and you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it together yourself and trying to explain seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>the inexplicable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, historic, for sure. It's Later with Mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>We're waiting around to see when President Joe Biden is

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<v Speaker 2>going to speak right now. I believe Ashley Biden is

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<v Speaker 2>on the stage right now, and we know that Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden is going to close out this first night of

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<v Speaker 2>the DNC, and we will have his remarks live when

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<v Speaker 2>they come.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Later with Mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app as we're I

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<v Speaker 2>guess monitoring the DNC right now. Senator Raphael Warnock of

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia is speaking that a long way before, long way

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<v Speaker 2>to go before we get to President Biden, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just keep monitoring it. I've made a mistake last segment,

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<v Speaker 2>I said Jim Gray regarding the Munich Olympics. I met

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<v Speaker 2>Jim McKay, but you know, it gets all garbled in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind. We're talking about broadcasts, anchors, journalism, how it's

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<v Speaker 2>changed our expectations of what is news, how we figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what to believe what not to believe, an ongoing

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<v Speaker 2>conversation we've had as far as misinformation disinformation. Now, when

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<v Speaker 2>you throw in social media AI and the intentional attempts

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<v Speaker 2>to mislead the public with a lot of these videos,

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<v Speaker 2>these memes, even Google ads and so forth, it makes

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<v Speaker 2>it real, real, difficult for anyone to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>separate truth from fiction. And part of it, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>the design to keep people confused and unsure. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait minute, is that allegation true or is that rumor true?

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<v Speaker 2>Or did that really happen? Did so and so really

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<v Speaker 2>do that fifteen twenty years ago? And so you just

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<v Speaker 2>have a confused, overall uninformed populist. And I'm sorry that

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<v Speaker 2>it's gotten to this point because I started tonight talking

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<v Speaker 2>about when I first fell in love with the American

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<v Speaker 2>political system as a child, and I remember clearly, distinctly

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<v Speaker 2>what it was like then. Yes, you had some partisanship,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was still a spirit of unity moving the

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<v Speaker 2>country forward. And I'm not romanticizing, and I remember what

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<v Speaker 2>it was like when you had Speaker of the House

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<v Speaker 2>Tip O'Neil and President Ronald Reagan who vehemently disagreed in

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<v Speaker 2>a policy sense, but they weren't disagreeable, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>able to get some sort of legislation through. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>like now if you don't have a president of a

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<v Speaker 2>certain party and total control of both houses, the country

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<v Speaker 2>can't move forward. And it didn't use to be that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether we'll ever get back to a functioning government, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Probably not in my lifetime. Mark Ronner's a

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<v Speaker 2>little younger than me. He might live long enough to

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<v Speaker 2>see it. Definitely stefan, but I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>here to see it. My plan is to go out

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<v Speaker 2>before you. I'm working on it. I try to tell

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<v Speaker 2>people all the time I am a confirmed cynic, and

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<v Speaker 2>being a confirmed cynic, I can't put too much faith

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<v Speaker 2>in anybody or anybody's party, elected official or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there are some deal breakers, there's some politicians I

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<v Speaker 2>can never support under any circumstances. But I don't limit myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I vote for Republicans and Democrats. But I am a

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<v Speaker 2>person who's really big on decency, dignity.

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<v Speaker 3>And decorum. What I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that respect for the office and put it this way.

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<v Speaker 2>I hold people of higher office to higher standards. Why,

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<v Speaker 2>because the responsibilities are greater. I'm not want to judge

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<v Speaker 2>a presidential candidate as on the same level that I

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<v Speaker 2>would someone who's running to be fry cook at McDonald's. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that sounds really dismissive and condescending, but it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't look at those positions equally.

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<v Speaker 7>I have to choose my words very carefully here, So

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<v Speaker 7>let me focus on what you said about history. You

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<v Speaker 7>were talking about the sixty eight convention and LBJ stepping

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<v Speaker 7>down to your point about how much things have changed,

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<v Speaker 7>and what you implied was how far through the looking

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<v Speaker 7>glass we are right now? Just think about Watergate, how

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<v Speaker 7>little that was a couple break ins in a cover up.

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<v Speaker 7>Compare that to what's happened in the last half dozen years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, think about the cover up talking about Richard Nixon,

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<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't the cover up. Well it was a

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<v Speaker 2>cover up, but it wasn't until we knew that there

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<v Speaker 2>were a White House tapes that everything fell apart, because

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<v Speaker 2>up until that point the cover up was covering.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>But what I'm saying is that compared to what we've

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<v Speaker 7>seen just recently, that's like a hangnail.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and that happened over the course of many

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<v Speaker 2>months and years. A political news cycle now could be

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<v Speaker 2>five or six minutes what we were discussing last week, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, a month ago, we were talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>presidential assassination attempt and how that was leading into the

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<v Speaker 2>RNC and how seemingly at that point all the momentum

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<v Speaker 2>was with former President Trump. That was just a month ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and here we are in the world looks completely different.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't mean that Kamala Harris is gonna win, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying how the political process has evolved in

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<v Speaker 2>such a such.

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<v Speaker 7>A short time. It's just ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 7>always had dirty politics. Let's not be under any illusions here.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, we remember that Nixon played a role in

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<v Speaker 7>delaying peace in Vietnam to put a thumb on the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we always talk about Nixon and we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>skip over for Spiro Agnew.

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<v Speaker 3>Who well you know who was convicted on completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Unrelated bribery charges while he was in office.

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<v Speaker 3>And people think like he had to do a Watergate. No,

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<v Speaker 3>he had nothing to do with Watergate. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>he was dirty all in his own right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on his own having nothing to do with Nixon,

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<v Speaker 2>and because I guess you know, we had two different

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<v Speaker 2>vice presidents in one administration because of Nixon.

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<v Speaker 3>And not having to do with Nixon.

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<v Speaker 7>But think about how Nixon stepped down after Goldwater told him,

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<v Speaker 7>if you don't, you're gonna get it. That is a

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<v Speaker 7>different universe than we live in today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if there's anything even comparable to

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<v Speaker 2>think that you have a sitting president there was a scandal,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Republicans went to him and said, if

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<v Speaker 2>you do not resign, we will impeach you and then

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<v Speaker 2>remove you from office. Because there was enough support back

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<v Speaker 2>then on both sides of the aisle for.

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<v Speaker 7>This unethical, probably illegal thing that you just did, instead

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<v Speaker 7>of like, well, just brazen it out.

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<v Speaker 3>We got this, just ride it out.

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<v Speaker 2>And then to think, all this time later, we're debating

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<v Speaker 2>air quotes presidential immunity, when if not for the pardon

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<v Speaker 2>of Gerald Ford, most likely Richard Nixon would have been prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 7>Historians that I have been reading say that that was

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<v Speaker 7>one of the biggest mistakes in US history pardoning Nixon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Jerald Ford was saying, and the same

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<v Speaker 2>argument which is being made today with former President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>It was quote unquote for the good of the nation.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if the nation benefited because they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't prosecute Richard Nixon. Because I think it's set forth

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<v Speaker 2>a dubious precedent that we're seeing where it's head today.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like how you know, if you don't rub your

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<v Speaker 7>dog's nose in something right afterwards, they think it's okay

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<v Speaker 7>to keep want it.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that it's later with Mo Kelly k if I

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<v Speaker 2>AM six forty were live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 3>Critical Thinkers Won It.

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<v Speaker 2>Ok F I M K O S T h D

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<v Speaker 2>two Los Angeles, Orange County, live

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<v Speaker 3>Everywhere on the eart radio app.
