Speaker 1: I made a decision.
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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Welcome to our for crying out loud Friday Show.
Speaker 1: Friday Show.
Speaker 2: Lots of stuff to talk about, a lot of entertainment
stuff to talk about. TV stuff. You know that there's
a saying, now, if you get caught in the act,
you've been cold played.
Speaker 1: I am dying to hear your take on this.
Speaker 2: Sure, we should have talked about it on Tuesdays show.
It's probably old news now by Friday.
Speaker 1: Four more people have been cold played by now.
Speaker 2: Right, But like, but Stephanie, i't seen each other. It's
only Monday for us, Yes, exactly, it's still kind of
out there. We forgot to talk about it. We did,
all right, how do you feel about it? I mean,
how do I feel about them getting caught? I'm I'm
just I well, first of all, I feel horrible for
the family. And I found out like yesterday that she
wasn't married, she's divorced. It was him that got caught,
that got caught. Yeah, I thought they were both married.
Oh I think I thought that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then he's got like old like teenage kids and
stuff like could you it's everywhere. That's the thing that's
I'm blown away. It's everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's like on.
Speaker 2: CNN it's one Good Morning America. You cannot open Facebook
or or Instagram or TikTok without seeing it. And now
the memes, you know, the memes are out of control,
like the two of them on Splace Splash Mountain, and
there's like and then there's you know, other people hugging
each other. It's just it's crazy how it's just caught on.
I think people were like sick of talking about the news.
It was like, thank god they came along. Yeah, it
brought us all together.
Speaker 1: It's no Jeffstein, but yeah, right, brought the country together.
Like the thing is like in Okay, two things. First
of all, in his defense, the woman that he's cheating
with seems kind of age appropriate. Yes, that's true. That's true,
Like better than if he was with some like twenty
four year old lousy, right, could you imagine?
Speaker 2: Yes, but almost that would be worse for the wife
who's just like really hurt, like I know, like your age,
like you're not even like yes, lets really have a connection,
which is kind of sad.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, Also, though I have heard that the guy is
just a gigantic douche.
Speaker 1: That's what I heard. I heard it couldn't have happened
to like the best person, right, that's what I've heard.
I heard.
Speaker 2: He's he fires people, he's a dick at work. He's like,
I think he had other jobs where he just ran
the company into the ground and stuff. Yeah, yeah, so
it couldn't happened to a better maybe a karma that yeah.
Speaker 1: Think that's karma, man, Well is karma? I mean? And
look at them, They're just out there like nobody can
like like whatever, not a care in the world care.
They're great, cold, cold place seats. Right.
Speaker 2: So then I heard that the girl that secured the
tickets for them came with them, right, the girl that
was sitting with so them that had a big smile
on her face when they were was like yeah, because
they right, she works what she worked with. It always somebody,
there's always one person at work that knows about the
affair kind of thing, right, Yeah, because I had like
two people at ABC. They didn't weren't having an affair.
They just didn't want no, they didn't want people at
work to know they were dating, you know, they wanted
to keep a.
Speaker 1: Professional, like bitch, everybody knows. Now.
Speaker 2: Anyways, they're married. Oh they they got married.
Speaker 1: They left their spouses.
Speaker 2: No, no, they weren't. They weren't cheating on anybody. They
just just they were dating at work and they didn't
want people to know they were dating at work because
they wanted to be professional. Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing. This is like totally a side point,
but so many companies have these rules against like you
can't date within your company. Where else are you meeting people?
Well that's true. Yeah, I like why I hate.
Speaker 2: You as long as you don't like you're not like
having sex on your desk cares like it doesn't affect
your job. Yeah, how even if it does affect your job,
I don't understand how a company can like dictate who
you can have feelings for or who you can like
be dating outside of work.
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. People
are going to like meet people, and yeah, it's gonna
get messy, you know. It was like a good example
of that was our show that we both like, the
HBO old show Enlightened. Enlightened, Yes, Laura Durat yeah show. Yeah, remember,
because that she was basically had an affair with the
guy at work. She lost her mind. It did I
watch that?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: I don't think Mike White show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I wanted to see it. Now, thanks
for reminding me. Oh my god, I never watched it.
I know, go home and watch it tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for my good It is so good. It's
one of my favorit. He shows I gotta watch it.
You of all people will really, I.
Speaker 2: Know, I remember, and I'm like, I gotta watch it,
and then I just I forgot.
Speaker 1: Her character is so great. She's like crazy a little,
but also like hilarious.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm totally gonna watch it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They showed on TMZ the girl that recorded the video
and they interviewed her. It was hilarious that recorded the
video recorded, yeah, the coldplay and uh, you know TMZ
they have that voiceover guy like, hey, you're the one
who recorded the cold play there and it was I'm
not gonna be able to do but he said something
like to her, so she was like, yeah, I don't
regret it. I feel bad for the families, but you
know what, basically fuck around and find out kind of
thing and then the good thing guy goes but other
than that, mister other than that, mister Lincoln, missus Lincoln.
Speaker 1: How was the show?
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, it was great, the show was great.
But yeah she's now like doing the rounds on interviews
and she's like, yeah, I just I recorded and I
put it right out there and it just took off.
Speaker 1: Well, what's the guy's Chris Martin? Yeah, right, was the
one that was like, oh, are they married? Maybe they're
having any kay? Didn't he say something to the effect
of like maybe.
Speaker 2: They're having an affair. Yes, they're going to get in trouble. Yes,
he did say that, are they ing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So then when they dropped down and then and then
the arms came up like yeah, you're right. Was that
the guy or somebody else they're friends that they were with.
So when when I first watched it and she like
covers her face, turns around and it hits and then
he drops down and then he says, well, you guys
must be having an affair or something, and then the
arms went up like yes kind of thing. I'm sure
that was not him that was lebrating like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Somebody was like in front.
Speaker 2: Of them was probably like hah, like it looked like
it was behind her, is what it looked like anyway. Yeah,
so yes, the people they were with knew. It's so
funny too, because if they didn't do that, nobody would know. Nobody, nobody.
Oh you know, she's probably kind of had a sense.
Maybe she got the wife has to know that this
guy's a douche, right, Yes, maybe, yeah, I know, but
they have kids.
Speaker 1: I know. It is I feel sad because listen, people
have affairs every single day, right, So on the one hand,
it's like they didn't commit a crime, right, But on
the other hand, Hey, you're out there at cold Play
on the JumboTron with your honey and you're married with kids, and.
Speaker 2: Then it's everywhere everywhere, so funny.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: We've talked about this before, but what happened we talked about,
but the idea of something happening and then becoming Internet
famous for something humiliating, Like.
Speaker 1: God, that's just got a what do you? How do
you live through that? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 2: The good thing is is people have an attention span
of you know, nothing fly these days. It's like comes
and goes. But I mean, you're always going to be
known as the cold Play CEO. Dude, that got fucking caught,
I know, and is he on leave or I think
he resigned? He resigned and then there was like a
letter that went around that heat announcement that he did
in that was debunk That wasn't him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard that was fake right away.
Speaker 2: And then I would just see it on friends Facebook
walls that I that I know that. I just be like,
come on, it's fake, it's fake. But I could see
myself having shared that too, been like, oh, gotcha, the
non apology apology.
Speaker 1: But it was I knew. I found out early on
that it was it was fake. Yeah, I just like
the lyrics.
Speaker 2: Is my favorite Coldplay song was the lyrics they quoted
at the end of the letter l well Eyed You Home.
He wrote that song for Gwyneth Paltrow when.
Speaker 1: Her dad died.
Speaker 2: Oh I will miss you, Yeah, mix you fix You?
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, I love that sounds kind of sweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen if you listen to the lyrics, it's really good.
I love that song.
Speaker 1: What if Paltrow just seems like the most awful person
to be around, doesn't she? Did you see that? Meryl
uh No, not Meryl Megan Markle video where She's being
interviewed by like a friend a friend, and they seem
like the most awful people, the two of them, the
interviewer and her. They both take themselves so seriously, do
you know what I'm talking about? That interview where she's like,
I've heard of it and I don't see about you.
And then Megan's like, yeah, the bespoke jam that I
make and I just want people to and You're like,
oh my god, right, oh, I can't even imagine having
a conversation with her, Like I know, I've a real
So many people just can't stand Megan Markle. I see
it all the time, but I've never really dived into
If you see this video, you can't understand me, you
get it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did see one video where she was pregnant and
they were dancing in the hospital. Yeah, and people are
making a big deal about it, but I was like,
I don't know, why is that a bib?
Speaker 1: I don't care about that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then when you see this video of her just being
so like smelling her own farts and just saying like
it's just amazing being me no, you know, yeah, just
trying to put good into the world. My jam and
it's just and then the one interviewing her has this
crazy smile where she's like hmm, both just keep going like, ew,
could you imagine for you? And I did that. It's
like the h you know NPR, Oh yeah, you know
right right? Yeah, welcome to NVR. Yeahnnette, tell me more
about that. So Sonny had a job interview. Yeah, yeah,
it's so good for him. So weird? Okay, Okay, So
we watched some shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we want to get right into the Amy
Bradley thing.
Speaker 1: I want to bring up one more. I want to
bring up something else I watched to know if you
watch this. Yes, I've gotten into these. They're very hit
and miss though. The train Wreck. Yes, that's what I
was telling you last week.
Speaker 2: Boy. Okay, So I saw the promo for the for
the bloom Boy and I'm like, do I really want
to watch it? And I love the train Wreck stuff? Yes,
some of them are hitting miss. I didn't watch it.
I felt like I watched it by watching the trailer
like he's alive, he made it right, So he didn't
make it. He never was in the balloon. Oh, he
wasn't in the ballue.
Speaker 1: So you forget what this story was when it came out,
So basically, I'm just going to tell you, but it
is so crazy. The show itself wasn't good the show
about it, but I was like, oh my god, I
forgot about this story. So Ballooon Boy was. The story
was that this kid climbed that. The dad is like
this crazy, like yes, genius, and he was making building
a spaceship, you know, and then the son climbed into it.
There's an older brother too, and the older brother you
just see him, go, Dad, a balloom boy climbed into
the balloon. He's in there, Dad, He is inside the balloon.
It's the worst fucking.
Speaker 2: Acting, uh huh. And it's on video. This is all videoed. Yeah,
they're they're videotaping it. Somebody's videotaping them.
Speaker 1: Well, like I'm telling you this. The other kid runs
in and goes, hey, Dad, Timmy's in the well. Let's
get Lassieky. But it's it's like, Dad, oh no, whatever
the guy's name is, let's call him like Slade. Slate's
in the balloon. And then the dad's like, what what
are you saying right now? He's in the balloon.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, Dad, he's in the balloon and it's flying,
it flew away, and then the dad's like, oh my god,
we've got to get him out of the balloon.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh my god, I know all this. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then all the news like you know, and he
calls nine one one and he's like, oh my god, Slade.
Speaker 1: My son.
Speaker 2: He's in the balloon. He's six years old. He's in there.
And then the nine one one operator's like, wait, what what.
Speaker 1: I mean in a balloon? It was like, it's a
healium balloon. He's in there. We've got to get him out.
And then so then all the news finds out about it.
What year was this around? It just like I feel
like it was early two thousands, right, okay, okay it was.
Let's look it up.
Speaker 2: They're late nineties early And I don't know why I
missed this story. I don't remember that. Do you remember
the story? I totally remember it, yeah, on the news
and stuff. I do remember it on the news. So
I'm like, been not that busy. Let's see balloon boy,
balloon boy hoax. That's what comes up. Oh it wasn't
even that long ago. It's two thousand and nine. Wow, Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So Sadie and Xander were like two, yeah, okay. So
there go hours, right, the news the media is all
following the story. It's picked up like all over the world.
They're following this balloon. It's like flying around in the air.
It goes, you know, super far. Eventually it starts losing air.
You know, it can only keep the helium in it
for so long. It's up there, and then they're following
it and they're like, oh my god, what's gonna happen
to this boy? And it loses air slowly, slowly, slow
like over days or no, over like six or seven
hours okay, okay, and then it slowly starts coming down
and then it lands. It doesn't really crash out, and
it doesn't it doesn't burst and it doesn't like it right,
loses air, slowly lands on the ground that they go
and they, you know, the news media, the people that
are watching it, they're they're following it like they're chasing
a twister, you know. They get there, they go in
there and they're like going around in the compartment and
trying to find the boy. Nobody in there, okay, so
they're like, there's no one in there. Oh, my god,
what happened to this boy? Did he fall out? Right?
The world is like mourning, like, oh my god, he's disappeared. Well,
turned out that he was like in the attic of
their house, like he was upstairs in their house. So
right away it's a little.
Speaker 2: Bit weird, like, okay, so there's been news and media
all over your house, yes, full time, right. So the
kid says like, oh, I fell asleep, right. So the
dad's like, oh, no, son, you've been up there the
whole time. And he's like, yeah, I fell asleep, I
got tired or whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, So right away you're watching this and you're like
the fuck, fuck, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: So then it turns out, oh and then the mom Okay,
so the mom is Asian, doesn't speak the best English,
but she's kind of saying in broken English.
Speaker 1: Like he was upstairs. You know which is going to
come well, it's going to come back later when she
makes an admission about it, but then says like, oh,
I didn't speak English very well, that's not what I meant.
But anyway, turns out that this guy has been trying
to be on reality TV for a long time. He
either was on Wife Swap or you did a test
a wife swap. Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent, but
they showed footage of it of him being really crazy
and over the top right on wife swap right, Oh
my god. So then it starts getting investigated and I
don't remember if they so the.
Speaker 2: Cops buying it that it was a mistake and he
fell asleep.
Speaker 1: They just took his word at the time, the little boy. Yeah,
so this is what happens. So pretty early on they're
like talking to them, they're doing like this news media
and they asked the boy something about why did you
say such and such and he's like, oh, my dad said,
oh we blah blah blah. Why did you I don't
remember what it was, but he goes, oh, because my
dad told me to say that for the show. Oh jeez.
So then they're like, al right, it was cold played.
He got cold plade.
Speaker 2: So then the dad's like, wait, what, No, that's you're
confused about, Like what, No, that's not what that meant?
Speaker 1: Like he like, and he just tries to cover for it.
So then it gets an investigation, but they can't quite
get him on anything, right because it's not really quite
a crime.
Speaker 2: Say that you know what I mean, there's nothing to
really but they do. There's this one detective who's like
really going after him for fraud, uh huh and whatever. Right,
But here's the problem, okause, so then they tried. So
now he's trying to do a documentary to prove that
it was never fake in the first place, and like
it's the whole thing. But when you're watching it, when
you see the footage, it just proves the opposite. It's
like you're watching it and you're like, that is the
worst acting. I cannot believe it. The brothers so in
on it, kids in on it. They're all just doing
what the dad said for them to do. It's backfired tremendously.
But then they never really say on this train wreck,
it's there's a little like at the end, and you're
like both John and I I was like, I know
they can't end it like that, right, And he was like, yeah,
that was horrible, ye, but now I'm going to go
down a rabbit hole and look up balloon Boy and
all the stuff.
Speaker 1: But then I fell asleep.
Speaker 2: Oh okay. And it wasn't only like an hour, right,
it wasn't like a three part Oh yeah, No, it's
short for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All of these are like one episode, yeah, I the
train wrecks. There's one coming out soon on like mom sluice,
isn't that going to be good? I will watch this ship.
I can't wait for that. So some of them are like, oh, yeah,
they're coming out with a bunch. There's a bunch coming out. Yeah,
there was another one I can't remember, but yeah, oh
the the poop.
Speaker 1: Cruise was the poop Cruise was good? We did, yes.
Speaker 2: And then there was the clothing company American Apparel. Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah I watched that, but and then the train. But yeah,
there's all these different ones coming out.
Speaker 1: But all these do is kind of what your appetite for,
like what for to read more about this, more about this.
I like stuff that's like several episodes long now, Yes, yeah,
I do too. Well.
Speaker 2: Some of them are did you watch the one about
the Travis airboch on? Yeah, so hot? Did you watch
the one about the Travis Scott concert? Yes, that was unbelievable. Yeah,
that was scary.
Speaker 1: That was a good one. That was a good one.
That guy seems like an asshole. Do you remember a
long time ago, a long time ago when I told
you that Elbe. It was Elbe and her guy friend
were playing me at Travis Scott's Remember this. We did
a whole episode about it, and I was like, what
the what is this? And it was all about girl,
I want to lick your pussy and I was like,
oh my god, you guys are thirteen. I hated what
is happening right now that I had to remember I
told you I had to be like pretend I'm cool,
like yeah, and I was like they're just doing this.
They're trying to push my button. Yeah, And I was like,
all right, I'm not going to say anything. And then
they kept trying to up it like they play like
worst songs like yeah, wop. Yes.
Speaker 2: I remember my daughter and a friend played wop. Like
I'm listening to this song. It must have been a
thing on TikTok or something. Make your mom, Make your
mom listen to the song, and I was like I started.
At first, I was like dance like oh cool, and
then I started listening.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, do we want to get to the
I really want to talk about it. Let's talk about
Amy Bradley. Yeah, okay, Okay, remember when we talked the
other day about cruises. Yes, I'm not going to any
I don't think I'm going to go on a cruise.
I decided, so yes. The documentary all right, so Amy
Bradley was like what early twenties. Yeah, she was like
twenty three okay three by the way, pretty clearly a lesbian. Yes,
Like I don't know that they thought that was going
to be some surprise I now later in the episode, yeah, yes.
Speaker 1: Which and it also we didn't have anything to do
with anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, there were a lot of little false I think things.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's lay it out. She goes up, the family
goes on this cruise, mom, dad's son and daughter. Yeah,
they're out, the son and the daughter out partying. In
case you haven't seen this, they're partying.
Speaker 2: They go to the bar. Then she comes home. She
comes back to the room at like I don't know,
two in the bull then, yeah, both of them, they
hang out on the balcony smoking cigarettes, right.
Speaker 1: But then she leaves again.
Speaker 2: He goes to bed, the brother goes to bed right
and then and.
Speaker 1: They think she left again. Yeah, because because people saw her.
Speaker 2: The dad woke up at like five or something and
saw her asleep on the lounge chair outside, saw her
legs and was like, okay, I'll just let her sleep.
Then he went back to sleep, and I think he
woke up like at six and she was gone, but
her top was there and her like birke, her shoes
were shoes too, mm hmm. Okay, but people spotted her. Yeah,
is it possible that the dad.
Speaker 1: Didn't really didn't actually see her, just thought he did.
I mean, I'm just taking his maybe, yeah I could have.
You're taking his word for it. Yeah, I like the
dad for this. No, I'm just kidding. The whole time
you were watching it, were you kind of doing that?
I was doing like John and I just like we
love to laugh about it. I'm always like I like
that guy for it the whole without knowing anything. Like
I like the brother for.
Speaker 2: It no no, I I well, okay, let's talk about it.
But I found that the witnesses that saw her, that
whole thing was interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, So basically she disappears. People said that she'd been
dancing with this guy who was the bass player for
the band, who I guess was kind of a local guy.
These are like, this is like the Caribbean. I could
have some stuff wrong, but it's basically the carib again.
And I think that guy was like a local guy
who plays bass on this cruise ship in this band.
His name is Yellow. Yes, for no reason that we
could figure out, right, So, but many witnesses saw them, Yes,
saw them dancing together.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there was a guy that was on on
he was doing a work assignment where he was videotaping
people dancing on a cruise right, and he had video
of the two of them dancing.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love these people that were like once they
find out, you know, he's like, yeah, I took videos.
So I was like, I've got to help.
Speaker 2: And then he goes through he acts like he's like now, yes, yes, right, right,
main character energy, right, But he does find video of
her with the guy, right, So they questioned that guy
they come up like empty handed.
Speaker 1: Yes, nobody can figure out where she is.
Speaker 2: Then then they had the two girls that were young
at the time, like eighteen to nineteen on the cruise
with their with their moms. And the two girls were
up at like three thirty in the morning on the
deck and it was just they were just alone out
there chilling, and they saw the base bass player and
Amy walk by, or they saw them go up the
elevator to the to the disc. No, walked by them,
went up the elevator to the disco, and then like
fifteen minutes later, he came back down and like didn't
even look at them or say hi or anything. They
thought that was kind of weird and just kept walking
by himself without her, right, Okay, So then there is
a guy who.
Speaker 1: Says, now there's two different guys like this, but what
the one I want to focus on is the one
from the military.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we could listen, we're going to be doing
spoiler alerts here, so oh it doesn't matter. But because
but like we're gonna happened. Yeah, so we're gonna dissect
what happen.
Speaker 1: What happened, we don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so you're Okay, so go ahead. Oh yes,
the g from the military that went to the bar.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So anyway, they get off the ship. Everybody gets off
the ship, and now she's really like missing because they
looked throughout the whole ship they couldn't find her. And
you know, and how about that fucking cruise director dude,
where he's like, you know what, Yeah, we have twenty
five hundred people on this ship that still want to
continue their vacation. Sorry, your daughter's missing, but we can't
stop their vacation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Not only that, but he wouldn't even put out
a thing at seven am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people need to sleep. Yeah, we don't want to
wake people up.
Speaker 1: They're like, we need you to make an announcement to
see if anyone seeing her people get off too early. Yes,
fuck you dude. Yeah that was kind of weird. Yeah,
it was weird though too that the parents. This is
just a little bit of weirdness that the parents were
like one hundred percent sure she was missing. She had
been partying pretty hard, right. I think they tried to
downplay like exactly how much she was drinking, which no judgment,
but is and the lead to something that I feel
like might be the case. Okay, you're gonna be surprised
at my take on this because it is a bit
conspiracy theory, but it lends itself to the case. So
I think she was partying really hard. I think she
got real drunk, and I think she okay, I think
she wanted drugs, Yes, me too. And I think she.
Speaker 2: Left the ship, yes, with the guy to go get drugs.
That's what I totally something I would have done if
I was really drunk. And she's young enough that I
don't think she was thinking it was that risky, right.
Speaker 1: Because she's hanging with this guy.
Speaker 2: He's like, you want to do like we could, I
could get him some blow, we could go party, and.
Speaker 1: She was probably like a right, she was drunk. She
didn't realize just how incredibly dangerous that was to do. Yes,
And nobody probably said whatever you do, do not get
off this boat. There's like sex trafficking, like and I
think she got kidnapped.
Speaker 2: I agree, that's what I think, because so then she
there was a witness that well, there was a bunch
of witnesses that said they saw her, you know, and
like that was her, can't miss her whatever, like off
on the island, of where they were in Aruba.
Speaker 1: Okay, So for one thing, there was a guy who
was like, and I believed this witness. There was one
guy who said he saw her, and I forgot about
that guy, but I at first when I saw the
one person say, I know I saw her. I know
it was her. That was the guy, remember, who.
Speaker 2: Was just like doing some fishing and he's like, hey,
there's I'm at this place and there's really only like
hardly any people on this island, and I know I
saw her, right, all right, So when you see that guy,
you're like, well, maybe.
Speaker 1: Maybe he did maybe did it exactly.
Speaker 2: Then there's the guy who's like, look, the military is bar. Yes,
I'm not really supposed to be there. That guy's up
to no good.
Speaker 1: Yes, he goes he's and he's in some like real
shady fucking bar, like mafia type place, and they're like,
what are you doing here? And he's like, I just
want to get.
Speaker 2: A drink and they're like, okay, okay, he sees her,
he knows he sees her.
Speaker 1: She's wait, she's with another girl.
Speaker 2: She comes down the stairs with it, like two guys
and another girl.
Speaker 1: The guys kind of walk away.
Speaker 2: The girl goes to the bar and then he's alone
with her, supposedly Amy, and she says, uh, I'm I'm
Amy Bradley. Yeah does she say? Yeah, tries to talk
to her and she goes. He's like, what's your name?
And she goes Amy, right, Amy Bradley, And he's like,
I heard her accent.
Speaker 1: I know she was southern that she says, I'm from
wherever she's from, right, Like, he doesn't say, like, well,
I think she does say I need help? Yeah she does.
Speaker 2: She says I'm being held against my will. I don't
want to be here. She literally told.
Speaker 1: Him that, yes, And then what does he do? Nothing?
Speaker 2: Nothing, because he doesn't want to lose his severance when
he retires from the army.
Speaker 1: Because he wasn't supposed to be there. Because he wasn't
supposed to be there. This is why I believe it, though,
because and so later, you know, people are maybe not
believing him or something, and somebody says like and he goes,
what I'm not lying?
Speaker 2: Oh he passed a polygraph test? Yes, yes, right, And
he goes, why would I lie? Like I feel bad,
I didn't do anything. I wish I could have done
it again. But I didn't because I didn't want to
get caught. I was going to lose, like you just said.
So he's like, but why would I make it up
for it? Like negative attention exactly, And then she gets
failed a second time with the woman that's on vacation
and Caesar in the bathroom. That was so then okay,
but real quick before we get to that part.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. So a picture, the parents get
sent a picture of a girl that looks like Amy
that clearly it's from a website that's clearly like sex trafficking. Yes,
like that she's a prostitute, and she got bake up,
like all of her face, her hair's all crazy, she's posing.
They send it to the parents, the parents freaking lose
their minds, and then they send it to like a
PROFESSIONALI yes, yeah, the FBA. And they'd measured her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they measured her ears, her cheek bones, they do
all that shit, and they're like, yeah.
Speaker 1: That that's that's her. I think that's her. I think
that's her lost. Way to coincidental that all of these
sighting like that a lot of people saw her, I don't.
I mean, okay, when we're doing our other detective work
by listening to dateline. Right, a lot of times when
they put something out and go we need leads or
unsolved mysteries is even a better example. Tons of people
come forward and there are so many false leads, right,
but I bet you there were a bunch of other
leads too that they discarded. But this guy passed a
polygraph test. Yes, I know.
Speaker 2: A woman has no real She seemed very real. She
had a lot of details, so yes, I believe her. Yeah,
she was on vacation. She runs into this girl that's
like she hears a guy. Yeah, she had a lot
of details.
Speaker 1: She's in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: She's in the bathroom and the girl comes in and
she hears the guy outside going like, okay, we're going
to go to the thing at eleven o'clock, so you
better be ready. And then she says something like can
we stop to see the kids? To see the children?
Speaker 1: Right? He says no, So that was weird.
Speaker 2: So they're thinking, and then the woman in the bathroom,
she's like, are you know, trying to make like, hey,
where are you from?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And then she says where she's from or something, Oh,
I live by there, and she's trying to like go
like talk talk to her, like, hey, do you kind
of need help kind of thing, and she's kind of
not reciprocating, right, she'd ever say any I don't remember
if she said anything to her about who she was.
Speaker 1: No, she leaves. She tells her husband like, yeah, that
girl needed help.
Speaker 2: Right, and the husband's like, eh, we don't want to
get involved. Right.
Speaker 1: Then she finds out she's stattering that there's somebody missing,
and she's like, oh my god, that one hundred percent
was her. Oh well, because they circulate the picture. Yeah,
I think she went doctor Phil. Yeah, I think she
saw that episode.
Speaker 2: And she was like, oh my god, yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: So basically okay. And then there's also this other which
was like a red herring where they started talking about
how she was gay and that the parents were not supportive. Yeah,
and they that they wrote so she had.
Speaker 2: A girlfriend and the parents the dad wrote a very
mean letter to her girlfriend and was like this is
not what I want for her or whatever. But it's like,
I don't know why that was necessary because it's not
like he did. They obviously were supportive enough, like, look
of all people, of course, I'm not going to be like, no,
they're the greatest parents. That's awesome there, but it was
like the nineties belief right. They were from the self. Yeah,
like they were supported. They were they were like, we
don't like this, but they were also on a cruise
with their kids, right, take him on a cruise to
go push her over?
Speaker 1: Yes? No, and she's gay right no.
Speaker 2: I think that they brought that up because of that
letter she wrote to her girlfriend.
Speaker 1: And that letter was so eerie.
Speaker 2: That I think that the producers are like, how do
we we got to fit this in?
Speaker 1: Kind of like that maybe that she was suicidal, yeah, okay.
One of the theories was that she was suicidal, yes, yeah,
and that she jumped overboard.
Speaker 2: I don't buy that for a second. She had a
lot going for her. She just got an apartment, she
just got a dog. Yes, no, girl's going to get
a dog and then jump no. No, And she just
got a job lined up, like she had everything going on.
Speaker 1: And what was really sad was like later you find
out that she also has a girlfriend, like she's kind
of newly in love. Right, the girl got mad because
so she said that Amy said that told the girl
right before she left for the trip. She was like
I cheated, I kissed somebody else, and then the girl
is very upset about it.
Speaker 2: But they kind of get back together right before she
leaves for the trip, and the girl's like, yeah, you're
the love of my life, like we'll work it out, right.
So it's not like she was in a breakup. Everything
was good between them.
Speaker 1: She'd given her that note, the one that was like
a note in a bottle, Yes, the thing you're talking about,
so she had basically things were fine between those two.
She wasn't like distraught about a breakup. She was having
a great time. She just and she wanted drugs.
Speaker 2: She was like feeling good and she wanted to party.
It's not that unusual, no, And I think back then, yeah,
there's no there's no talk of sex trafficking back then
in the nineties, really it wasn't like it is now,
you know. So, yeah, it's very But here's the one
thing I don't get though, what about the time didn't
they announce like Amy Bradley. I guess she didn't want
to come. I guess she thought like because she never
wanted to disappoint her parents. So I don't know why
she never like just talked to her parents before she
got off the ship, like, Hey, I'm going to go
I don't know, I'm going to go shopping with my friend. Like,
why didn't she just instead of completely Maybe.
Speaker 1: She passed out? Did it in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: How did she get off the ship next day? No,
she didn't, because at one point she did tell somebody
I'm Amy Bradley and I left on my own will,
but now I'm stuck here. Somebody did say that, remember that.
But so to get the drugs, you have to go
off the ship, right, So maybe Yellow snuck her off
the ship. That's they did talk a lot about you
be easy to smuggle somebody off.
Speaker 1: Right, But so did she did he she was drunk.
Speaker 2: Maybe she passed out, I don't passed out at his place.
Maybe he walked her back to his place and said
tomorrow we'll look at the drugs when we get off.
And she was past, she was wasted, and she just
passed out there and then maybe woke up and it
was like time to get off the ship. And maybe
she didn't hear them calling for her.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So I do I think she was trafficked,
and then I think she got she had baby, yeah,
And then I think she didn't want to like I
think she did get what they suggested it like Stockholm
syndrome and was just like, well now what r gonna
be able to like go home? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And also maybe they used her child to threaten her,
like I don't you know, I don't know, Yeah, how
is she going to get a baby?
Speaker 1: How was she going to leave? I don't know. But
I also feel like maybe they she's dead.
Speaker 2: Now I know my thingy about that she's so dead,
or maybe she's found somebody to take care of her
and her child, and and just thinks I can't is
afraid of this cartel or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they.
Speaker 2: Could have me because she'd have to get herself off
the island right to get back home, right, she'd have
to call somebody.
Speaker 1: But yeah, she's probably is, but you know, to them.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing too, Yeah maybe she I'm hoping she
met somebody that like took her in and take care
of her. But what are you gonna if if the
cartel runs the police over there? You know, it's a
lot of corruption. What is she going to just call
nine one month ago I was kidnapped and here I am.
I don't know, or maybe she can call the FBI
and say I'm Amy Bradley. But she's afraid because she thinks.
Speaker 1: And she probably doesn't want to leave her kid there. Right, Yeah,
that's what I think happened. Now, that's like a crazy
story because there is just no easy answer. Like, I
just don't see why these people would have been so
sure they saw her. I actually that lady. She did
not seem crazy at all.
Speaker 2: No, No, she everybody had really like detailed stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 2: And the picture, how do you argue with the picture
even the FBI thinks is her?
Speaker 1: Yes, that pans, and also where else would she be?
Speaker 2: Like, I would feel like if she if that didn't happened,
they would have found her by now. Well. Yeah, they
were saying if she jumped or if she fell over,
her body would have washed up or parts of her
body would have washed up.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, where else would she be? What a crazy story.
Speaker 2: Imagine the parents though, that's got I mean, especially when
you get that picture, I feel horrible maybe with this
Netflix that if she's still alive, she'll reach out. But yeah,
you're right, I mean she might not be around anymore
because she's gonna be like our age by now right. Yeah,
it was like she was like our age. It was
a crazy story. Yeah, and then you watch though and
you're like, I want to watch it nut. I love
those those documentaries so good.
Speaker 1: So then I went down a rabbit hole on I
re listened to the podcast. Okay, I think it was
like a maybe I was listened to a dateline and
then I was like, oh shit, isn't there a full podcast,
like multi episodes about this The Sarah Lawrence sex cult.
Oh the sex crazy guy. Okay, that story. I remember
being like, we're a sex cult. And then I watched
that documentary and I was like, what yes, So then
I listened to the podcast It's so good is it?
And then I started watching the documentary briefly, but then
I got interrupted because I had to watch and just
like that because I have to record the coverage on
that when I get home later today. So I didn't
watch it yet, but so I'm saving it. Okayself, Okay,
that's an insane story. Yes, I mean what he made
those kids do, like like speaking of sex trafficking.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, Like I didn't you like have pliers and
hold their tongue in the in the the pliers boy
the boy and got his sisters to come yea, And
he got his sisters involved in it, and the sister
like fell in love with him. Yeah that was crazy.
That guy is so so truly evil. Yeah, and the
daughter is still like won't talk. Like.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of people. One of them is the
daughter's friend Isabella, and that girl is still like.
Speaker 2: Is she the one that was crying all the time
I remember watching that was the girl that was like
Felicity or Felice yeaha or something.
Speaker 1: That girl ended up being part of the documentary. She
finally got free of it, but she had she had
to get fully like deprogrammed. It took like a couple
of years.
Speaker 2: Because I remember watching the documentary and I was falling.
I kept falling asleep right around the time where she
was like crying and screaming and crying, and I would
wake up thinking, like, my kids are crying, Like what
is happening. It's like, oh my god, this girl's still crying. Yeah,
I remember, yeah.
Speaker 1: But then remember because she would cry, he was like,
you're being a baby, and he made her put her
in a diaper. He just, oh my god, completely screwed
her up until she was just like a Childlike.
Speaker 2: That guy was just because he wanted to hang out
with college kids, Like it just started because.
Speaker 1: His daughter was. He was already like a criminal that's
involved with like like it was so deep. He was
involved with like all kinds of bath and Rudy and
Giuliani and corruption and that police chief. I can't remember
the police chief's name, but at the time who was
running it was all political. He was a total criminal.
He'd already had just gotten out of jail.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, that's right. He got out of jail
and he went to stay and he totally fucked over
his ex wife. Remember he made he suitor for custody, but.
Speaker 1: He made all these accusations about her that she was
sexually abusing his kids, and he got the kids and
so the mom.
Speaker 2: Lost custody of the kids. He he was a that's
rizy manipulator cattle to begin with. And then he told
the daughter like how horrible the mom was. He turned
her care against her, right, and that's why. Then when
he got out of jail, the daughter.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh my god, my dad's like so amazing.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love him, like my mom's crazy, but like
he's awesome. Oh my god, that's right. And is the
daughter talk to her dad? Is she still does she
stand by her dad?
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. Yes, I think she does. I think.
Speaker 2: And the daughter's friend who also got like really brainwashed.
Only a few of them really fully got like that
were in deep, got fully out of it. Wow, you
got to rewatch that one. I'm going to rewatch it.
You got to watch that and enlightened and enlightened. Yes,
I'm gonna watch enlighten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Did you watch Have you watched anything else?
I did? On Hulu? There was this.
Speaker 2: It's called Trophy Kill, I think, and it's crazy. It's
like three episodes. It's on Hulu. It's like a Hulu
original and it's basically this, by the way, the dentist
that somebody found my friend on Facebook.
Speaker 1: Remember I talked about her last week? Oh my god. Yeah, okay,
oh my gosh, Okay, we have to okay.
Speaker 2: All right, So Trophy Kill a dentist. He's shady. He's
a shady dentist. He's he's always like wheeling and delon
and blah blah blah. He's also a like insane, like
he hunts. He loves to go hunting. It's so sad
when you watch it, because the documentary's done really kind
of beautiful and cool because it's all about him going hunting.
He wanted to be the president of the Hunting Society
and he got to do that, you know. And and
so anyway, he had his wife, but then cheated on
his wife and was having an affair with this other woman.
Speaker 1: Oh I've seen a dateline about this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And so you know, takes herund a safari,
kills his wife, yes, on a safari. But the wife
the I mean, not the wife the girlfriend has a
lot to do with it too, And I didn't finish
the last third episode, but it's really interesting and it's
so sad that they go on these like safari you know,
trips and kill these majestic animals. It's so disgusting. It's disgusting.
And they're posing with them and they're like, there's a
grizzly bear that's huge compared to him, I mean huge.
It looked fake and his mouth is like propped open
with wood so that they get the picture of him,
you know, and they're like all like proud. I just
I mean, it's disgusting, like you know. But anyway, it's
a it's a good story. I don't remember hearing about it.
So I was watching that. I feel like that guy's
name is Larry too Yes, Larry too bad, Larry's too bad,
Larry's I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna call our episode that. Yeah, there you go, too bad,
Larry's so you yes, our audience, our audience. Friend.
Speaker 2: Like within a day, it was like, hey, I think
I found her. It was totally her. I reached out
to her. I was like do you remember me? And
she's like, yes, I remember you. She goes, I drive
by your mom house and think about how funny your
mom was and how she used to take us to
her self defense classes. And I was like yes, And
then we kind of went back and forth and they go,
you know, you're on YouTube with my mom like in the.
Speaker 1: Background, and she's like, I saw it.
Speaker 2: She's like, my daughter was looking it up and found
it and she was doing well. You know, she's got
she was divorced and got no had kids and anyway,
I don't want to say too much about her private life.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was really nice.
Speaker 2: We got caught up and we talked and we brought
up memories and so it was really sweet. Oh my,
so thank you to our audience.
Speaker 1: So you're so lucky because I know too that they
and they were found. Okay of mine. Remember I had
the girl Amy Letterman is in the movie You Light
Up My Life. Yeah, Okay. For some reason, she changed
the spelling of her last name okay, okay to Letterman
with a D okay, and it was my memories not
incorrect because there's something where you see it credited and
it says, go, she went by.
Speaker 2: This name like David Letterman, Yes, okay, and then it says,
but this is her name, but it's definitely her.
Speaker 1: You can tell it's her. So somebody found her for
me and sent it to me, and I got her Instagram.
I followed her on Instagram and then was she's on Facebook,
so I have mutual friends with her. Okay, So one
of my mutual friends with her was like, yeah, I
used to know her, and it's very random. I have
like eight mutual friends with her, and the ones that
I know are like, oh yeah, Like I'm not really
close with her, but I have her email address, right,
So I was like, oh, I'll take her email address.
So I send her this like really nice email and
I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't know if you
remember me, but like our moms were best friends and
then we hung out all the time and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Never wrote me back. Wow, So that's one and never
accepted I. She's private on Instagram, so I requested to
follow her never a lot, so weird, and.
Speaker 1: I Facebook friend requested her. Did not accept my friend.
That's so weird. What the fuck is wrong with Maybe?
What could I have done as a little kid that
I know my mom wasn't great to her mom? Is
it possible she kind of remembers and is like, yeah,
your mom was a bitch.
Speaker 2: Maybe, who knows, I don't know what goes on in
people's minds.
Speaker 1: So then the other one that was like my bff
that lived in the house that I said, I'm pretty
sure the Jackson five owned that house. And then it
was and then I was trying to talk to Diane
Carroll's daughter. Okay, that whole thing, Okay, somebody found my
friend though the girl what like it was a crazy
This girl went down a rabbit hole and found looked
was like looking up Cheryl's who are dentists? Okay, they
found the mom. She's like in a nursing home, and
somebody had done a story on her because I'd forgotten
that she the mom. Joe Anne Morgan was a jazz musician, right,
and then her boyfriend monte Qua managed like jazz musicians,
so he might have also been managing her, oh and
producing an albumsage. But anyway, so they did this news
story on her, and I reached out to the guy
who was on Instagram who did the news story, and
he was like, yeah, but I do like three hundred
of these a year, and I do remember her, but
like I don't have contact information, but you could try
calling this blah blah blah. Anyway, same person also found
her daughter and I now I have seen a picture
of her as an adult. It is one hundred percent her.
Her name's Cheryl Snyder. But she is so locked down
on any way that I could get a hold of her.
So she has a Facebook page, but it's one of
those things where you can't see you can't you can't
request to be her friends. Oh really, have you ever
seen that where like.
Speaker 2: You just have your Facebook locked so that people can't
friend request you that.
Speaker 1: No, I guess you could do that so well does
and you can't message her and you can't request to
be her friend. You can just see her picture, okay?
On Facebook, there's no So I have found like a
dental service where she is a dentist there. Oh, but
there's no like there's no office specific office. It's like
a network and there's like these dental offices in like
like there's like ten different locations. Yeah, and then there's
a main number.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, am I really going to call the
main number? I'm looking for this person and I don't
know what office she's in.
Speaker 1: It be this office, and can you leave her a note? Well,
you can't try your.
Speaker 2: Facebook friend, I couldn't know. But then like, yeah, then
you got to talk on the phone or something.
Speaker 1: But I mean yeah, I kind of wanted it to
be easy, like and remember me. Yeah, it could have
been like my friend, it was so easy? Was it
the same?
Speaker 2: Was it our same girl that found my girl found
your girl? No?
Speaker 1: Different? People?
Speaker 2: Wow, you guys talk about mom amazing. So our question
to you is like, where is Amy Bradley? Right, come on,
you guys, get on it. Let's go find her.
Speaker 1: Help us out. Yeah, we gotta find her. Oh my god. Okay,
this was a maybe ourial.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you know if she was dead, wouldn't there be
maybe not a death certificate on who Amy Bradley? Oh
I don't know if they don't know who she is,
that's true.
Speaker 1: And no, all right, and we got to say hi
to our friends. I'm gonna do this in reverse order. Well,
one more business shout out, which is our friend furn
Candle Kelsey. She makes these delicious smelling candles. She died.
I'm just like a delicious fragrance smell hoe. I love it.
So I have smelled all her candles and they're so good.
You can find her on Instagram at Ferncandle. She's not
hard to find, or go to ferncandle dot com. And
Adam Lerner every episode you know what to do. Adam's
got a car, Yes, this before and then christ I
get the strap, Ashley Chicke, Stephanie's a stinker wrinker Athena.
We love your dancing, sanre not easy being green now, Jennifer,
get up, Aaron, you're dirty, Sanchez, Leslie stopped coughing.
Speaker 2: Alicia Escalante City Alamante, Kelly, She'll tak take you everywhere.
Speaker 1: Rebecca little bit so cute, Sean so hot, Missy and
Gabby out in Aruba looking for Amy Bradley. Thank god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Katerina, check your moler and thank you for reminding
me to make dental appointments. Morning kids, Valerie, Bubba Fenwick
kids out of the park, Pollie, love your pancakes, Rita
loving your all your bassiets, Elizabeth Williamson, Yeah.
Speaker 1: All your kids are in Rita's bass yet, Nicky, call
your girls, Kelly Lotty dot and Dick is frolicking. Yeah,
and that's it. Thanks ever, everybody. You're a parent now,
don't if it up that angel HM.