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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Fundamental Principle.

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With me today is my esteem guest and good friend,

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mister Pete Canonia's host of the Peak Canonians show, available

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in all your major podcasters. Mister Canoni is welcome to

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the program.

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Speaker 2: Thank you dye. How are you doing to it? I

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I'm good, I'm good. I think that.

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Speaker 1: Some introductions in order for our listeners. I just would

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you just tell our listeners about yourself and kind of

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you're A brief sketch of religious background.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was born into a Catholic family, baptized the

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forty Christmas Eve the year I was born, forty five

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days later, raised in a Catholic household, alter Boy Catholic

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High school. Actually started out in a Jesuit school back

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when it wasn't so bad, and I ended up transferring

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out and finishing off in a Diocese of New York

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Catholic school. Graduated, did the typical thing that a lot

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of guys do. As soon as I graduated high school,

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stopped going to church. Around the time I was twenty eight,

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I started going back to church, but I went to

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a Baptist church. A friend invited me to a Baptist church,

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and I dove headfirst into Protestantism for about five years,

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which included a stint in a Presbyterian a Presbyterian Church

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of America seminary. Some people may even remember the name D.

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James Kennedy, who was a staunch conservative, hardcore right winger.

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It was his seminary. And became through going to churches

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and Baptist churches and just seeing the politics, seeing how

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you were going to have a church split. It seemed

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like there was a church split every other year. I

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became completely just demoralized by it, and I didn't go

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to church for a lot of years and started going

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to back when I met my wife, She's Baptist, grew

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up Baptist, raised in the Baptist Church, started going back

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to a Baptist church with her, a reform Baptist church.

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And then when we moved to where we are now,

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there's a very small, no resort of parish church in

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this community, and I felt drawn to it and went back.

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And as soon as I went back, I went back

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to confession. I went to confession for the first time

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in decades and took communion and started calling myself a

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Catholic again, and yeah, I'm back home where I'm supposed

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to be, where my ancestors were, and yeah, I feel

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very much at home.

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Speaker 1: That's good, I think very typically. You know, you're a

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gen x er as am I on the tail and

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Charlie of gen X. But you know, the Novasorto Mass

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is only as old as us, right. It was promulgated

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in nineteen seventy, you know, and it's it's gonna die

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with the boomers. There's nobody who really truly believes in it.

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Who's who's like a hardcore fan of the New Mass,

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who like has kids, And you know, if the if

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the church just said, you know what, this has been

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a mistake, We're going back to, you know, the old Mass,

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most of the people who go to the New Mass would.

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Speaker 2: Just be like, oh okay and go along.

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Speaker 1: I very sincerely believe that most people who's still attend Mass,

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who attend the Novsoro and have children, would would prefer

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the old Mass if they had had the chance. And

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the reason I bring up your age is that complete

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failure of the church to shepherd its people from I

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don't know, nineteen seventy to nineteen ninety nineteen ninety five,

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two thousand. I mean picking to the present. I guess

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you know is has devastating consequences for people. And you know,

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ex Catholics are the largest or the second largest religious

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group in the United States of America precisely because the

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church has failed in her mission to teach people. And

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you know, praise God your back. But if all you're

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getting is like felt banners and lousy Marty Hoggenhim's Ayr

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Lokus Novisordo church, you're not getting anything. And it's certainly

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not like a place you can raise kids or maintain

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your own faith. And I just would wonder if you

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would elaborate on that a little bit, because this complete

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institutional failure we're seeing not just from the church but

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from you know, political leaders and the media, and there's

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there's nothing that you can grab onto this and say,

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these people aren't going to lie to me, especially after

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twenty twenty, right, there's nowhere you can go that's on

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solid postemological footing where you where you can say the

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truth is here at least. And I wondered if you'd

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just elaborate on that or talk about that a little

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bit with respect to the religious stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as I started going back, I immediately started,

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you know, wondering where, if anywhere, there was a Latin

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Mass around here, where there was a traditional Mass. And

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the closest one is an hour and a half away.

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It's in Birmingham, and I've been to it before the

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first Friday of every month they have one. They have

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them every Sunday, and there they're low, they're low masses.

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mass in Alabama, but we're talking to two and a

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half three hours away. A lot of people don't realize

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just how big Alabama is. It's huge. And the interesting

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thing about it is, you know, there is a Catholic

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history in Alabama because it was settled by so many Germans,

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especially in the upper central part of it. So there

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are a couple of monasteries up there actually, and so yeah,

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so I even though I when I have do I

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go to the Noversorto Mass, I will, you know, locally,

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I do make the trip. One of my brothers from

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the old Glory Club was down here recently and we

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went to the Mass in Birmingham with and his fiance

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and yeah, it's just completely different in that. I think

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one of the first things that struck me when I

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went was that this is what my ancestors did. This

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is how my ancestors worshiped, and this is how I

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should be worshiping. And another thing about going back to

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see my mom. My mom was a two two three

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Mass a week person until nineteen seventy and then she

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fell off, and it was because she liked the old

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style of Mass. And in New York City you really

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feel everyone has a real poll to their parish church,

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the neighborhood church. You would have had to travel for that.

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But yeah, I think that one of the reasons why

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after high school I fell away is because by that time,

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I mean the chure the school I went to, I

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went to Catholics. So I went to Archdiocey School. It

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wasn't even the quote unquote religious class that you had

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every semester wasn't even religion. It was at one point

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it was my senior year. The last half of my

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senior year was like self help. It was like Leo

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Muscalia kind of stuff. And so there was nothing, There

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was no tradition, there was no there was no real

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tie to my past. And I think you know Thomas

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seven seven seven always talks about how we've just been

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completely derastinated from our history and we were not allowed

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to live historically anymore. And I think you, yeah, got.

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Speaker 1: You basically lived Slaughter of Cities.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, my whole neighborhood that I

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grew up, I grew up in the Bronx In When

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I was growing up, my neighborhood was predominantly Puerto Rican Dominican,

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and probably like sixty to seventy percent Puerto Rican Dominican,

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twenty percent twenty five to twenty seven percent Black, and

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it was still like a three percent Irish remnant. And

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if you would have went back twenty years, that would

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have been like eighty percent Irish neighborhood. If you had

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have went back fifty, if you would have back fifty years,

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would have been predominantly a Jewish neighborhood actually, but it

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was predominantly an Irish neighborhood I would say, ten to

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twelve years, ten twenty years before I was born, and

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that's why you had That's why I was predominantly Catholic,

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and that's why you had. I mean, there was a parish,

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like every parish church, every six blocks. You know, we

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had Sacred Heart School was just up up seven blocks

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and then Saint Jerome's was one block over and one

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block up and that was the church I went to

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growing up. And yeah, it went from a full, you know,

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a full church in the fifties and sixties to you

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were lucky to fill that church on Easter, Christmas and

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most Sundays it was maybe a quarterfall. And that can

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that can be pointed directly to the slaughter of cities.

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And just to mention, there was in the building I

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grew up in, right next door, there was a they

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built they tore down a building there and they built

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a church and it was a like missionary Baptist church.

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was a black church. And that didn't exist before for

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I grew you know, when my when my mother was

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a child, right, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not the job of the church necessarily

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to like like assign you, like you know, on senior

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assigns you a GF at you know, age seventeen or

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Something's all right, you know, Peter, You're you're gonna you're

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gonna get married with Becky. But it is the job

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of the church to create a social environment where the

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faith can be lived. And then you know, things flow

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from that where if you still lived in the old

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neighborhood and all the girls in the neighborhood knew, like

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you're gonna marry a local guy, and your kids are

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you were you your parents were baptized here at Anti Rms.

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You were baptized here as ante Arms. Your kids are

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gonna get baptized here at Antrums. You're gonna be a

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guy from the local parish. You know, dating dating outside

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the parish is considered exotic, right, you know, like, oh

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you know, like you know, three whole blocks of way,

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he's Polish, you know, uh, right, Like that environment is

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conducive to people, you know, getting married, having the faith,

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having children, having the faith passed on. And you know,

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us extras, right, we're the middle of children in history

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where you know, last key kids, a lot of us,

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you know, didn't get married or got divorced and didn't

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have kids, and and and this is you know, like

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structural problems. You know, like, eh, you know, if you

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individually don't get married, that's one thing. But when like

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you and all your best friends from high school and

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half the guys you knew in college all didn't get married,

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there's a problem, right, And d James Kennedy for all

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of his faults, you know, PC USA, right, Political Great

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Church USA, there's at least an attempt by these folks

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to like create their own media and try and like

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live in a countercultural way that Catholic's only just now

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recently started doing.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: You know, Christian radio was a thing going back to

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the fifties, and you know Cathol podcast, Cathol, that's only

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been the last twenty years that we've tried to create

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our own I guess you need to beat tens thirty

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years old now.

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Speaker 2: But you know, like.

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Speaker 1: An attempt to create our own separate ecosystem has only

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really kind of been made in the last thirty years

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after the asteroid hit, after it was too late, and

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it's like, well, if you if you'd kept that up,

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then maybe you'd have some success. But right now, Wow,

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you know, the average person in the pews has no

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idea what they're supposed to believe. They don't believe in

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the reality of the Euchrist, they don't believe the church's

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teachings on things like contraception, and you wonder why, like

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the pews are empty and people aren't getting married in

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the church. It's like, well, most of the people you're

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dealing with don't actually know what they're talking about. And

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because they haven't been taught. It's not you know, I mean,

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you have all some of all human knowledge in your pocket,

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but they don't even know where to start looking.

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Speaker 2: Well, as we've we've talked about previously. You know, Western

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civilization had to undergo it's it's trials and its judgment

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through Nuremberg. Uh, you know, through the Nuremberg Trials. And

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the same thing was Vatican too. For the Catholic Church.

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If there was one yeah, same people did it too. Ye,

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same people are responsible. But if there was one institution

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that you thought would survive all of this, it would

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have been if you would look back through history, if

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you look back through our history, you would think it

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would be the Catholic Church. And I think it, just

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like everything else, it's fallen to modernity. And you is

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it O'Sullivan's love. Something is not explicitly right wing, it

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will go left wing. I mean, I don't even know

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if you want to call the Catholic Church right wing,

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you just want to call it Catholic. But as far

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as like traditional you're if something is not going to

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remain explicitly so, it's going to it's going to veer

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into modernity. And that's what we saw. And you know,

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some people could argue, oh, well, you know, having your

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own network and your radio stations and this is you know,

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is that's just embracing modernity. No, it's just embracing tools.

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instead of washing, you know, washing dishes by hand.

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Speaker 1: It's no different than than publishing the Catechism of Council

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of Trent with you know, printing it right. It's just

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using the tool. You know, Maximilian Colby used radio to

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evangelize and that was this Conquest. One of Robert Conquest

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laws of politics is that which is not explicitly right

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wing will eventually become left wing. And it nevertheless, you know,

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Vatican two got is Nurnberg because fundamentally right. And this

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is this is one thing where kind of the liberals

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are more right than the than the conservatives. Suppose of

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the traditionalists, the conservatives seek to conserve the post war consensus,

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and they don't understand that the post war consensus is

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inherently liberal and contradictory to the Catholic faith and and

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to political stability, and to family life and to everything right.

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Liberalism as such is hostile to Catholicism. And John Henry

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Newman talked about it, you don't like one hundred and

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thirty years ago, like you can be a liberal or

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you can be a Christian, but you can't be both,

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Not talking about you know, the Democratic Party or Libertards

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or anything.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Political The political philosophy of liberalism is that man is

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necessarily by his nature free, and that things that impinge

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on that freedom are bad. You know, James Lindsay, for

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all of his many, many, many faults, is completely correct

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in that like traditional Catholicism and James Lindsay do not

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get along. Now, that just makes him a leftist and

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an enemy of all good order and decent pinking people.

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But that's that's not He's not wrong that, like traditional

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Catholicism and like his his classical liberalism are in conflict.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the things that I see

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is I'm reading a book right now on the show

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called The Demon and Democracy of I write, writes gard Gudko,

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and he's he's Polish, and I've looked. He doesn't advertise

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what he is, doesn't sound as wiki, but I think

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that he is Roman Catholic from things I've seen. From

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the things I've seen.

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Speaker 1: And.

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Speaker 2: What he talks about in that book is is that

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one of the hallmarks of liberalism is that you're constantly

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going somewhere on a path. It's on a path to

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path and it has this this end goal, and liberalism

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has this end goal too. And the end goal is

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not traditionalism. It's not the Catholic Church, and it's the enemy.

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constantly veering off here, veering off there, which is what

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we see liberalism do, that's how you can veer off

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into transgenderism and race communism and all of these things.

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The church is supposed to be the rock. It's supposed

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to be it's supposed to be Peter, it's not supposed

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to move anywhere. And what you've seen is when you

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a dogma of the changes is useless, right you. What

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you see is you see once something someone embraces modernity,

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now it's no longer that rock. It's no longer that

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foundation upon which people can run to when there's a storm,

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to hold on to and not be thrown to and fro,

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especially in their faith, but especially when when the culture

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is becoming what it is. And yeah, as soon as

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you as soon as you decide that liberalism that you're

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going to embrace modernity, which is liberalism. Now you're on

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a path somewhere. And if you're on a path, and

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you were, you were this rock that didn't move, and

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now you're rolling, well, obviously you're going to be picking

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things up along the way. And where do you stop? Yeah,

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I mean there's no path. And who says this has

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no endpoint? Because one of the goals of progressivism and

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which I don't consider to be any different than liberalism,

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is you're you're going to this perfection. But we know

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that you can never reach this perfection. So basically what

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it turns into is it turns into a tool for deviants.

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It turns into a tool where deviants can control people

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who have a historical outlook, who are trying to live historically,

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and you're telling them, no, you're wrong. You have to

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get on this ride with us. And if you don't

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get on this ride with us and take on every

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you know, every you know, piece of rotten moss that

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this this rolling rock is h is picking up. Well,

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there's something wrong with you. And so I mean to me,

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all of this is spiritual, All this is spiritual warfare.

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church is trying to go along and just you know,

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but no, you can't make excuses for this. You can't.

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There's no you know, when he said upon this rock,

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I will build my church, that rock was a solid foundation.

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There's no solid foundation anymore. So is there is there

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any Why are people confused that there are rainbow flags

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outside uh yeah, outside of of Catholic churches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that there's a church in New York, Jesuit Church

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in New York just recently, like celebrating a mass for

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you know, perverse right, like this is of course completely

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unacceptable and you know, the teleology of liberalism. For those

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of you who don't know teleology is the study of ends,

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like what are what are the purposes of things? And

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the teleology of liberalism is to basically turn everyone into

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their own Satan, because non servium is the whole of

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the of the credo of liberalism. You know, I will

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not serve the king, I willant to serve my family,

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I willant serve I won't do my duty right effectively,

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or I have no duties or any duties that have

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been imposed on your ipso facto immoral because they limit

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my freedom, well freedom to do what like take a

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lot of drugs, Like it's that freedom.

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Speaker 2: I mean that, you know, that is what you know

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when you know, we both called ourselves libertarians at one time,

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and that's really what it is. You know. Somebody just

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on Twitter today, somebody was I saw a couple of

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libertarians having a conversation and one said in the conversation,

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I guess to make a point, a libertarian says, does

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does a parent have a duty to make sure that

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their child is taken care of and fed? Yeah? And

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my response to it was, Okay, so what's the next question,

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what if that child consents? Yeah, are you retarded?

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Speaker 1: Like? Yes, of course they do, Like that's that's like

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the very definition of paranoid.

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Speaker 2: You got to make sure your kids eat. Yeah, I'm

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not I'm not a parent. I think that that should

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be for anybody who's never heard me before. I'm not

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a parent. Jerome and I have talked off air before

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about why that is. I don't know that it's it's

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a good excuse, but you know it is the reason

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why why I never had children. But I mean, I'm

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also not one of those people who was ever like, no,

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you should never have children. Don't bring a child into

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this world. Maybe I've said that in the past, maybe

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when I was a libertarian and I was at my

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most black pilled, I was like, why would anybody bring

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a child into this world? But you know, I've repented

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of all those sins. The sins of libertarianism are are long.

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The list is long, and they must all be repented of.

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Speaker 1: And and because there's many, many, solid, wonderful people who

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are Catholic who identify as libertarian or used to identify

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as libertarian, I wouldn't be here today without stalwart, wonderful

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people like Tom Woods or Lou Rockwell, who are both

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faithful Catholics. The instrumental in me being here today. Tom

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Woods's book How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization, absolutely

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I must read. You got to pick it up, you

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got to read it, get a hard copy. It's an

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outstanding book. But him and Chris Farrar's book on the

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Changes in the Church, absolutely must read. Jeffrey Tucker's writing

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in Latin Mass magazine and elsewhere, you know, instrumental in

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me getting here in all three, you know, but ultimately,

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and I want to make a distinction here between Saint

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Thomas's you know, in essence is good, good thinking is

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proper distinctions. Hoppying libertarians are people who wanted to get

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the total state off of their back so that they

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could live their lives. And I think that they ultimately

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come up to that, you know, contradiction between total freedom

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and the necessity of submitting yourself to God but wanting

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our awful satanic Nuremberg regime off your back so that

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you could actually live, live historically and live a Catholic

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life is one thing. It's the people who think that,

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you know, some total libertarianism is like weed and abortion

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are are the problem right now. If every if every

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libertarian was like a Tom Woods type libertarian who just

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was like personally an outstanding person and just didn't want

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the state bothering him, so he could be that sort

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of what of a person that he is. You could

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make a case for libertarians and being a useful good thing,

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but at the moment, right, like, you know, the libertarian

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presidential candidate is a drug taking, you know, pervert whose

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chief concern wasn't like the destruction of liberty and private

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property and you know twenty twenty, but rather that like

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were mean to people who like put on dudes who

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put on dresses, and we can't tell them that they

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can't go to the bathroom with like thirteen year old girls, right,

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that is a religious commitment. When you're saying freedom requires

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fathers to let a dude in address who has really

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weird fetishes use the same restroom as your preteen daughter,

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like that, that's not freedom anymore. That's just part of

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my language. But fucking weird, Like there's no defending that.

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And the decent people I have mentioned don't defend that.

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They say, dude, this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, And whenever you talk about a group

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and you generalize, there's going to be outliers there, you know,

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and Tom Woods is a really good friend of mine,

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and he is a good example of what you're what

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you're talking about, but the really attacking the path that

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we've gone on as a society and what we've been

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forced into. And believe me, there's we have been forced

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into it the after World War Two.

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Speaker 1: You just.

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Speaker 2: It is looked down upon. It is they will make

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a target of you, whether through the I R S,

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whether through CPS, if you are a you know, if

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you are a hardcore Catholic. And you know, we've seen

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that there's a lady in jail right now that I

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hope Trump is going to is going to pardon and

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get out of jail or do whatever he needs to

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do to get her out, who was just praying the

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Rosary at an abortion clinic and our Jewish Attorney general

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targeted her like he's targeted so many Catholics since he's

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been in office.

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Speaker 1: Right, And the father used the face act rate like

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an insane person assaulted his son, and he you know,

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stopped the guy from assulting his son and then got

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thrown in jail or I had you know, you know,

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a bunch of heavily armed FBI agents like Storm's house

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point guns at his kids, and right, you can't. You know,

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AA is probably the only spiritually useful thing in the

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United States of America has ever contributed to world culture.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: And step one is admitting you got a problem. And

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step one for any coaching analysis of the Nurburg regime

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is who's in charge.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 1: Catholics, it's not Christians. Right, this obsession with minority rights,

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we always have to protect the minority, Well, who's the minority?

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And there's it's never the obverse of like, what about

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the rights of the majority to like live in a

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functional society. It's like, no, we have to we have

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to make accommodations for drug addicts and perverts and you know,

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mentally unstable people and people who can't read and people

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who like whatever. There's always like, you know, the the

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Z man will make the joke of you know, like

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you know, left handed Ginger Koreans in wheelchairs, right, and

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why like does that person even exist? Like if that

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person is you know, the progressive stack says, this person

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has to be the first person that we care about.

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It's like, what about all the other people who deserve

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to live in a functioning society? What about the vast

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majority of people who just want to like have their

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taxes lowered, Have you know, roads don't look like the

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dark side of the moon, and have their schools that

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they're paying for be like something that could actually send

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their kids do safely.

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Speaker 2: Do they have any rights? Well not.

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Speaker 1: Not.

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Speaker 2: If the minority says, you know, you being.

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Speaker 1: Functional is oppressing me, well they're always going to say

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that because to them, normality is oppression. Right, Expecting women

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to get married and have kids is oppression because you know,

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zyr is a lesbian and she doesn't want to get

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married to a dude.

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Speaker 2: No, never mind.

474
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Speaker 1: And if you just stopped, you know, entertaining this nonsense,

475
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,640
they find that they were happily married and had a

476
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,359
couple of kids. And if you just didn't let them

477
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:18,359
have the option of this being a thing right that

478
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:25,440
that they'd be happy and and functional. And you know,

479
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:29,519
freedom to destroy yourself is not freedom. And that's what

480
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:34,839
libertarianism or are modern Nuremberg regime says, is freedom to

481
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880
destroy yourself as the ultimate freedom. Unless you can destroy yourself,

482
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,960
you're not free. Right, the positive moral good of of

483
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,400
you know, seeking Canadian health care right like of like

484
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:49,160
the Canadian state or you know, the state of Oregon

485
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,319
or whatever. Like killing yourself is freedom, but like we

486
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,359
have no duty as the state of Oregon or the

487
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000
state of you know, the nation of Canada or national

488
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:04,440
government of Canada to actually provide a stable enough society

489
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,559
where you don't where like you don't feel like you have.

490
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:12,559
Speaker 2: To kill yourself. Well, you know, it's not only all that,

491
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:17,319
but if you're somebody who decides that they're going to

492
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:23,400
take it upon themselves to promote that people don't destroy themselves,

493
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:28,839
that is you're scene as a you're the next Hitler,

494
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,480
You're the net You're a fascist, You're you're somebody who

495
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:39,119
wants to overthrow the order quote unquote order. If I

496
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,640
love that. They they call it the post war or

497
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:44,240
you know, the post war order. There's no order to

498
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,680
this that you are. You're not allowed to do that.

499
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:53,400
You're you're not You have to hide, you have to

500
00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:01,240
pretend you're doing something else. You have to you have

501
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:07,720
to be somebody who becomes somebody who you're doing something outwardly,

502
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:10,079
you almost have to make it seem as if you're

503
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,559
doing something different than what you're actually doing, something that's

504
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,039
more in line with what the order is now, and

505
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,400
that's that's ironically what they call liberty is. You know,

506
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,599
we have liberty now people that are free to do

507
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,119
what they want. Well, you're free to do what you

508
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,320
want as long as you're destroying the individual, as long

509
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,440
as you're destroying yourself, and as long as you're promoting

510
00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:37,280
destroying other people. But as soon as you try to

511
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:42,320
stop people from destroying themselves, to stop people from you know,

512
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:49,079
worshiping Satan, worshiping demons, communing with demons, then you become

513
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,679
the person who is Now you're the bad guy. Now

514
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,280
you're you're the threat to civilization.

515
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,599
Speaker 1: Right then we have to put you on a a

516
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:04,840
banking latch list and take take away your YouTube monetization.

517
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,599
Speaker 2: I know people who figured this out years ago, you know,

518
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,400
fifteen years ago, I was I was in Skype groups

519
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,239
with people who call themselves sovereign citizens, and these were

520
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,079
people who are like, we want to go totally off

521
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,199
the grid. We don't want anything to do with with

522
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,119
this anymore. We're going to run generators. We're not even

523
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,840
going to take the power. We're going to use our

524
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,920
own power. We're going to generate our own power. We're

525
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,639
not going to pay a government agency, which is basically

526
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:41,440
what most power companies and gas companies are, or government agency.

527
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: It's no such thing as like a private utility company. Orry,

528
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,559
It's yeah, mere idea is absurd.

529
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: Like no, And I know people who did that and

530
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:55,639
were kidnapped out of their house, thrown into mental asylums

531
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,800
and pumped full of drugs. I know people that personally

532
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:03,679
that that happened to where they became wards of the

533
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,320
state and they were sedated and medicated because they decided

534
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,119
they didn't want to be a part of this anymore. Right, Well,

535
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:15,599
obviously they're mentally ill, right, yeah, I mean if you

536
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,440
don't want to, if you're not worshiping sodomy, porn, pornography,

537
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,880
you know, the government this you know this regime, transgender

538
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,079
you're there, obviously is something wrong with you.

539
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,519
Speaker 1: Well, and this is this is one of those notions,

540
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:36,320
right that libertarianism ultimately fails just right, like because the

541
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,039
government's always going to throw crazy people in jail, like

542
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:40,880
that's just what it's going to do. Now, the question

543
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:43,360
is is are the crazy people the people who want

544
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,760
like want to live in a woods with their own

545
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,360
solar panels, or is the crazy people like Bruce Jenner.

546
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:54,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, which which who destroy other people because they are

547
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:59,079
seen in public and they are not only are they legitimized,

548
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:03,440
but they're champion Yeah. And you wonder how you know

549
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:09,280
your child is questioning? How a child can question whether

550
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,239
they're a boy or a girl. And it's because instead

551
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,800
of you know, the heroes of the faith or you know,

552
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,320
Padre Pio or someone like that being elevated and being

553
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,199
talked about and being championed, which even the church doesn't

554
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,000
do not anymore. No, Yeah, then well what do you

555
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,280
what do you expect? What do you Well, we need

556
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,920
to minister to these people. We need to That's why

557
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,480
we put the you know, that's why we put the

558
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,559
rainbow flag outs. We can get these people in there.

559
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:46,159
We could know. You're not trying to get them. You're

560
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:49,840
not trying to get them to change. You're just trying

561
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,320
to get them to be members. You're just and what

562
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,119
do they end up doing? When you let those people

563
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,159
in the door, They always end up changing.

564
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: You, right, you never change them ever, because because you

565
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,519
if you buy the premises. You know, I've been around

566
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:11,440
a long time and you and I both have friends

567
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:13,639
that were kind of the red pill game guys from

568
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,679
ten and fifteen years ago, and a lot of that

569
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,599
was used towards evil ends. Right, Just notching up like

570
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,960
figuring out girls and then using that knowledge to sleep

571
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,280
with a lot of women was immoral. It still is immoral.

572
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,920
But one of the things that they've said that I

573
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,639
think is absolutely true is that if you buy the frame,

574
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:41,639
you buy the farm. And if you let the enemy,

575
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,199
you know, capital e in this case, right like if

576
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,320
you let Satan set the terms of debate, if you're

577
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,480
playing on Satan's field, you're gonna lose all the time.

578
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,800
And effectively, the post Nuremberger's gam liberalism is playing on

579
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:03,119
Satan's using Satan's rules. You're you know, if you're not

580
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,039
willing to say X is good and why is bad?

581
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,119
And you know the people who promote why you know,

582
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,800
error has no rights if you think that, you know,

583
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Bruce Jenner is a beautiful woman, like I am sorry,

584
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,280
you weren't mistaken, And you don't have a right to

585
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,559
spout that nonsense in public because it destroys society if

586
00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:26,760
you do.

587
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:32,079
Speaker 2: It well, and if you don't have if you don't

588
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:38,960
have a church that's willing to that has wealth that

589
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:44,280
has status that is powerful if they want to use

590
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,440
that power. If you're not willing, if they're not willing

591
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:50,760
to stand up and to fight against this, it's very

592
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,079
easy to understand how people can become black built because

593
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:56,639
you look, you look around, and you're like, okay, who's

594
00:39:56,679 --> 00:40:00,599
fighting against this Donald Trump? And then peopleeople are like, well,

595
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:02,840
we just go and we vote for Donald Trump and everything.

596
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:09,519
Donald Trump is a post Nuremberg Civil Rights Act liberal. Yeah.

597
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, like you just appointed Kimberly Guilfoyle, right

598
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,880
the like twice divorce, broke off in engagement with Don Junior,

599
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,559
like single mom, like plastic surgery at the wazoo, Like

600
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:30,199
he just implanted her ambassador to Greece. Like this is

601
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:37,599
not like one of the oldest Christian civilizations on the planet, right, yeah, right,

602
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,159
Like you know, the Greeks became Christians and gave us

603
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:44,360
the Church Fathers. You know, the Aztecs became Christian and

604
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,199
gave us you know, after five hundred years of being Christian,

605
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:52,320
the Greeks gave us the Church Fathers almost in your entirety, right,

606
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,639
they gave us the translation of the scriptures, and you know,

607
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,119
five hundred years of the estets. Being Catholic, We've gotten

608
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,679
our lady got to libate tattoos and like candles, you know,

609
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:07,559
like this is things are different, not all things are

610
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:10,599
the same, novel. People are the same. You know, some

611
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:12,599
people are tall, some people are short, some people are smart,

612
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:15,719
some people are stupid. That's just the nature of reality.

613
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:20,199
And anybody that wants to sit there and say that,

614
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,599
you know, the point of the show is that like

615
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:32,159
reality exists, right, and this Neuronberg regime effectively it's one

616
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:38,199
like unbreakable commandment. Is that equality uber alis, right, And

617
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,800
that doesn't mean you know, that means they'll you know,

618
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,199
Staples tilts to a short guy's feet and cut a

619
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,920
tall guy off at the knees, and you know, like

620
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:55,039
do Island of Doctor Moreau type stuff to make everyone

621
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,719
the same height. It's like, well, that's monstrous and evil

622
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,679
and wrong. Well not in percive equality, isn't because that's

623
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,159
that's the one true that that's the you know, the

624
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,920
one real god we have is and of course that

625
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:15,440
that leads to a terrible society, right well, and that's

626
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,079
and the church goes right along with it, right because

627
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:26,719
place Yeah, well no, because because it's following the world's footsteps.

628
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,599
Speaker 2: You know. One of the reasons why I said, one

629
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:36,239
of the reasons why I left just became very quickly

630
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,400
disillusioned with Protestantism is because of the splinters. Because it

631
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:45,880
is a protest it's one gigantic protest and I understand

632
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,480
like the history of it. You know, I tried to

633
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:51,519
go to confessional churches. Even when I went to a

634
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,320
Baptist church, it was a Baptist church. It went by

635
00:42:54,360 --> 00:43:00,920
the sixteen eighty nine confession. And that's great. You're saying, Okay,

636
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,639
this is what we believe. We have this confession, we

637
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,239
have the Westminster Confession of Faith, we have the sixteen

638
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,239
eighty nine Baptist Confession. Okay, But you're also saying that

639
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,599
people can read the Bible and interpret it for themselves.

640
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:21,280
So what really, what is that confession for other than

641
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:26,280
it's a guideline. It's this is what gives us our legitimacy.

642
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:31,840
Yet we have people in there who can believe whatever

643
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:38,119
they want and be feminists and promote abortion things like that,

644
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,199
and that. It's the same problem with the Catholic Church

645
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,760
is there was a time in the Catholic Church where

646
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,960
if you stepped out of line. If you went against

647
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,480
the Catechism, what the church believed, you were pulled aside

648
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:56,920
and you went through discipline. Yeah.

649
00:43:57,039 --> 00:44:00,199
Speaker 1: Well and look at mister Williamson, right, the one, the

650
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,000
one bishop who's been like no is you know he

651
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:10,840
he he questioned the official religion of the Nuremberg regime, right,

652
00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:15,199
and that's that's unacceptable. But Nancy Pelosi can be like, nah,

653
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:17,599
Archbishop of Corleone, he's not going to do anything. I'm

654
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:19,559
going to receive community. It's my faith. He can't tell

655
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:21,800
me what to do. So like, okay, Well, me and

656
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,039
Nancy Pelosi agree that, you know, the bishops are spyless

657
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,320
worms and they will never do anything like like, you know,

658
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:36,639
here's this woman who's who's a obstinate is you know,

659
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,360
like she's a public manifest heretic. And these guys don't

660
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,159
have the stones to do anything, but they'll go after

661
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,599
you know, podcasters who who think that bagels aren't our

662
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:56,280
friends because they believe what the Nuremberg machine teaches. They're

663
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,000
not Catholics.

664
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: You know, when I was in the Baptist churchard remember

665
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,280
being with a friend of mine, hanging out with a

666
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,039
friend of mine, who was more true.

667
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: He was.

668
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,599
Speaker 2: He liked the idea of home churches. He believed that

669
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,239
the New Testament taught that, oh they met in homes,

670
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,639
and you know, the supper was not the Eucharist. It

671
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,039
was like a full meal, and you sat around having

672
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,079
a full meal. And I remember him standing there one

673
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:28,800
day and going, look look at the way this church

674
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,360
is set up. This is set up really no different

675
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,800
than the Catholic Church. There's a electern there, you know,

676
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,440
we just call it electurn and they call it an

677
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,239
alter and everything. And it occurred to me as he's

678
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,559
saying this, I'm going that you didn't copy the Catholic Church.

679
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:50,159
The Catholic Church copied this, because really the Novasorto Mass

680
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,239
is really just a Protestant like a take on the

681
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,519
Protestant Mass, the Protestant service.

682
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like it's highly pro Taviani talked about it.

683
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:03,800
Who was the head of the Holy Office right in

684
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,159
the Taviani intervention, like like and this was this was

685
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:12,320
this was the this wasn't this was the pre Novasorto Mass, Like,

686
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,719
this wasn't even it was highly higher Protestant eyes. I

687
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,400
would strongly recommend everyone pick up if you don't have

688
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,639
a physical copy, get one of Father, the late Father

689
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,199
Anthony Chicato, this book work of human hands, like this,

690
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,960
This mass that you go to every Sunday is more

691
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:34,719
Protestant than not. And it hasn't led to it's led

692
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,079
to Catholics becoming Protestants, leaving the Catholic faith and becoming Protestant,

693
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,840
far far more than vice versa.

694
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting is there's a Novasorto church I

695
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,360
go to here, and the priest there is actually a

696
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:59,360
former Protestant preacher, and the one of the Catholic podcasts

697
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,159
I I watch, I listen to all the time as

698
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:04,400
Shameless Popery with Joe Heshmeier, and I believe he's a

699
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,760
former Protestant too. And I think the thing that gives

700
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,559
me some hope is that you do see more people

701
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,639
coming to the Catholic church, but also you see more

702
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:20,920
people coming to the Catholic Church and go, Okay, where

703
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,320
can I where can I attend a traditional Latin mass? Oh?

704
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, a traditional lead mass is growing with leaps

705
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:30,679
and bounds, despite all the restrictions and tradition, tradition and

706
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,079
custody and the and the attacks and everything else do

707
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:34,320
you know.

708
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: What demographic right now is having more is averaging more

709
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,840
kids than any other, having more children than any other

710
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:49,480
in the world. The Amish traditional Latin Mass attendees.

711
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: Well that's true. I mean at my parish. You know,

712
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:57,360
my wife uh has earned her Mother's Cross. But we

713
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,519
have a small family, you know, because this real the

714
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:01,960
silver Weather's Cross.

715
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm not.

716
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,039
Speaker 1: Unusual for people to have ten twelve more children.

717
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do see a lot. I think there is

718
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,119
a lot of hope there.

719
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: You know.

720
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: I was Stormy and I Stormy Waters. For people who've

721
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:18,119
never heard my show should go listen to h I'm

722
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:20,119
going to drop an episode with him on Sunday, which

723
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:23,119
is probably going to get us in trouble. Two hours

724
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:27,559
and twenty minutes of talking about the assassination of this

725
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:34,280
United Healthcare demon, this path in the past.

726
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: All I have to say about that is is that injustice,

727
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,599
the wager and oppression of the poor orson as they

728
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:44,360
cry to Heaven for vengeance. And yeah, that's all I

729
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,119
had to say about that.

730
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: Stormy and I have been we've been talking about like

731
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:57,039
the Rosary and the power and he he goes back

732
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:00,199
into when he studied a lot of Catholic mysticism of

733
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,559
the past, so and not nearly as much as I have,

734
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,639
I mean, I mean more than I have, I haven't

735
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,079
nearly as much. But you know one thing that I

736
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,320
have taken to strongly is is the Rosary every single day.

737
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:17,920
And I see a change in my life since. And

738
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,760
I've been talking to him and you know, we h

739
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,480
what we're what we're starting to understand and what we

740
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:32,400
want to start talking about more is the fact that

741
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,480
this war that's happening, it's it's it's an eternal war.

742
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,559
Spiritual warfare is eternal until until Christ comes back. Is

743
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:52,679
you We've been given weapons to use in this and

744
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,639
people have completely ignored him. People have completely overlooked them.

745
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, the Padre Pio and they bring me

746
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,559
my weapon, and he would you know, it's Rosary, right,

747
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:11,639
And like the scriptures itself say, you know that the

748
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,760
Devil's is like a roaring lion probably about the world,

749
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,280
seeking this ruin of souls. And if you've ever been

750
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,280
to a zoo and seen an African lion up close,

751
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:28,039
they're pretty scary. The Eurasian lion was bigger the lion

752
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:31,039
that was that was mentioned in the scriptures that would

753
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,239
that would haunt the mountains of Anatolia and Greece and

754
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,079
all these other places, like like even bigger and scarier,

755
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:45,599
you know, eight feet long, one thousand, you know, eight

756
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,920
hundred pounds of muscle, with teeth like steak knives and

757
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:59,039
claws like a razors. Just you have no idea how

758
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:01,440
scary that sort of thing is until you've actually seen it.

759
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:04,320
And if you've ever been out in the wild, right

760
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:09,519
and running into a big scary animal, like there's a

761
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,280
it just grabs you by the spine and like and

762
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:17,000
you know, fortunately, whenever I've been in that sort of situation,

763
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:20,119
I was with lots of people when we had firearms.

764
00:51:20,159 --> 00:51:23,880
But imagine like you know, you're by yourself and all

765
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,159
you've got is maybe a sling. Right, it's scary, So

766
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,840
you know, it's it's meant to be scary. It's it

767
00:51:29,159 --> 00:51:30,599
is scary like like hell is forever.

768
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:31,159
Speaker 2: It's real.

769
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: People go there, according to you know, the tradition of

770
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,480
the church and things like our Lady of Fatima, lots

771
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:40,079
of people go there like snowstorm, like snow in a wizzard.

772
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,360
What the children of Fatima said, that's that's like what

773
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,800
you know, soul's falling into hell is like, and.

774
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,079
Speaker 2: You know it.

775
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: If you you're pastor or your bishop or your other authorities,

776
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,280
don't take it seriously. That doesn't mean you shouldn't. And

777
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,039
they think that that's a very important thing. One of

778
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:04,519
the reasons this show gout launch is I want to

779
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:10,559
give Catholic men in particular a chance to engage with

780
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:12,599
the reality and deal with the world as it actually is,

781
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:14,639
so that they can actually save their souls and deal

782
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:17,039
with the deal with the problems of the world as

783
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:25,719
it actually is. Well, yeah, and yeah, here's the thing is,

784
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,400
I've been I've been on a lot of sides.

785
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 2: Of these things. I've been a libertarian. I am what

786
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,119
I am now, which I don't even know how to

787
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:43,239
even label what I am now. I'm I'm I'm I'm

788
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,719
almost going back to my libertarianism where I'm like, I'm

789
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,719
neither left nor right. I think at this point it's

790
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,159
just like, as far as politics go, I'm just a

791
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,840
nationalist and that's it. It's like, there's a there's a

792
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,719
people in the nations of people, and you know, we

793
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:00,440
have to find our people figure out who are people are.

794
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,079
But you know, I also have I've been a Protestant,

795
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:07,599
I've gone to a Protestant church. But you know, I

796
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:13,519
was born Catholic and raised Catholic and fell away like

797
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:16,280
so many and come back and repent it.

798
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: And I.

799
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 2: One of the things that one of the problems I've

800
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,559
had watching a lot of a lot of Catholics even

801
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,679
is watching them being pulled away from the faith because

802
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:40,480
of politics. And this can happen at any time in history.

803
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,679
At any time in history, things can get really get

804
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:50,519
really bad as far as the culture and people tend

805
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:52,880
to and a lot of times a church would follow

806
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,039
with it. I forget who said it this morning. I

807
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:58,840
think it was Greg Hood said on Twitter somebody said

808
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,440
that this is pop friends, this is the worst worst

809
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,639
pope ever, And Greg Hood's like that he's not even

810
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:05,679
in like the bottom ten.

811
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: And we have to remember that what's most important, well,

812
00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:16,760
I mean in terms of teaching, as like as a person,

813
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,639
maybe like as pope pope. I think he's probably the worst,

814
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,239
if he even is. I'm of the opinion that he's

815
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,400
probably an anti pope because his election was illegitimate for

816
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,119
multiple reasons. But that's a separate discussion. And Greg Hood

817
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,079
is I think one of the most knowledgeable people out

818
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,079
there in the world right now. You know, he certainly

819
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,679
he's no Alexander the sixth in terms of his personal conduct.

820
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,199
They don't think.

821
00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:44,079
Speaker 2: But what.

822
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: I think is important is not just the like, oh,

823
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000
look at how bad things are, or look at you know,

824
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:53,880
politically speaking, this is this is why historical knowledge is

825
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,400
so important. You can look back at the pornocracy when

826
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:03,079
you know, Peter Damien wrote his book of Gomora against

827
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,800
like you know, perverts and clerical robes, like certain problems

828
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,239
just eternal, you know, occur over and over again, right

829
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:25,599
and rather than abandoned ship because the captain is bad,

830
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:29,920
we can't do anything about that. You know, our station

831
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:33,719
in life is to do the best we can in

832
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,159
the place that God has put us. And if that means,

833
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,280
like as a dad, you have to ignore or like

834
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,079
everything the pope says and just be like, okay, well

835
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:42,400
we're just gonna gorow to the old mass and say

836
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,400
the Rosary, like that's what you can do, right.

837
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say.

838
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:52,239
Is politically, you know, there's a lot of us who

839
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,320
are like, you know, what Thomas, what Thomas talks about

840
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,760
we need to go back to living historically, and by

841
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,039
living historically, it means that you're abandoning this whole idea

842
00:56:03,079 --> 00:56:07,519
of progress, this whole idea of liberalism. And the same

843
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:10,360
goes with the church. You just have to you have

844
00:56:10,519 --> 00:56:15,559
to find know the truth and live the truth. And

845
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,559
you can do that. And you can not only do

846
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,760
that in the worst times of trouble, but you have

847
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:26,199
to do that in the worst times of trouble. That

848
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,679
is your that is your duty. Your duty is not

849
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,960
only to survive through those times, but to thrive through

850
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,320
those times and to teach others. And you know, I

851
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,719
think that's where I've failed is I've done a good

852
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,440
job of talking to people politically about you know, where

853
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:49,559
we are and maybe what their thought process should be

854
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,000
is about as far as politics goes. But I don't

855
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:54,400
think I've done as good a job when it comes

856
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,320
to faith, because I know there are a lot of

857
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,719
good Protestants out there. I think Corey Mahler is a

858
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:03,719
like a perfect example of it, someone who is, you know,

859
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:06,719
who's a soldier against fighting against the same evil we're

860
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:12,840
fighting against. But you know, we believe as Catholics that

861
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:18,639
we are in we have the truth, and so does he,

862
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,559
and and he's like and he's wrong, and he thinks

863
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:25,440
we're wrong. But nevertheless, and this is why I've actually,

864
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:28,480
I've actually interviewed mister Mallard. They'll be dropping in an

865
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:31,280
interview with him shortly. I guess.

866
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:39,679
Speaker 1: The important thing isn't right right now at our present moment,

867
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:47,400
right the satirial logical debates, the scriptural the solo scripture debate, right,

868
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,920
like all those arguments they've been had a thousand times,

869
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,039
right between the Catholics, the Livemans, the reform of the

870
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:58,239
Eastern Orthodox, like like those arguments are almost set in stone, right,

871
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:05,199
like you believe what you're going to believe. What is

872
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,639
more important? I think at this particular time, I don't

873
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:14,039
want to discount in any of those things. But our

874
00:58:14,119 --> 00:58:16,159
mutual friends Jason Mironchuk's put it this way, like you

875
00:58:16,199 --> 00:58:20,440
don't live in a civilization anymore, and I think the

876
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:23,559
important thing for all of us to do is to

877
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:27,840
re establish a Christian civilization. And then once that's established,

878
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:33,159
in the baseline thing that was the reality in Europe

879
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:37,159
for you know, to most of the last two thousand years,

880
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:43,480
that this was Christendom from you know, Vladivostok to Chicago,

881
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:51,360
Right that that re establishing that is far more important

882
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:58,239
than like owning like a reform guy on his arguments

883
00:58:58,239 --> 00:59:03,039
about Sola scriptura. I think those are wrong, But me

884
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:06,440
saying like like mean and Nana, you're wrong is way

885
00:59:06,519 --> 00:59:10,400
less important than like, how about we make sure that

886
00:59:10,519 --> 00:59:13,719
there's no dudes in the middle school girls locker room

887
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:22,360
as a first step, and then we'll move to you know,

888
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:25,960
whatever arguments we need to have about faith versus works,

889
00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:29,960
and you know, the Epistle to James and what what

890
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:30,360
have you.

891
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: And we have historic you know, we have historic precedent

892
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:40,760
for you know, when those are when those discussions don't

893
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,679
bear any fruit, we have the historic precedent for separation,

894
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,000
which is, you know, it could be political as well.

895
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:54,480
So yeah, that's not I'm I definitely am not wanting

896
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:59,920
to fight a crusade against against Protestants or Orthodox or anyone.

897
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:00,519
Speaker 1: You know.

898
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,639
Speaker 2: Buck Buck Johnson's a really good friend of mine, and

899
01:00:03,679 --> 01:00:05,679
we were hanging out in Texas a couple of months ago,

900
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,199
and we just, you know, we're like this, this the

901
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:15,280
enemy is not us. The enemy is out there, and

902
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:17,360
you know, we really need to be arm in arm

903
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,960
to fight against this enemy and then you know, after

904
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,199
that we'll figure you know, we can figure it out.

905
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:30,639
But I mean, we're the enemy right now. Not only

906
01:00:33,079 --> 01:00:37,280
is attacking our body and attacking us politically, but it's

907
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:42,280
attacking our spirit and our souls. And that's one thing

908
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,039
that people just don't get that if that's the one thing,

909
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:48,679
you know, that's one of the reasons why, you know,

910
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:53,840
I do appreciate the libertarians who are Catholics and you

911
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:58,639
know who are you know, are are Christian and understand

912
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:05,119
that I have a hard time. I would have a

913
01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:08,400
hard time calling myself a libertarian even if I still

914
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,400
had inclinations towards that belief system, you know, that political system,

915
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,119
just because of the fact that all of these leaders

916
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:25,519
can be great leaders. But when you encounter the average libertarian,

917
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:33,280
they're atheist, anti anti family, anti hierarchy, anti truth, and

918
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,440
most and most and know God's no masters, right like yeah,

919
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,559
and there and most of them are liberals. They they're

920
01:01:39,639 --> 01:01:42,760
liberals in the sense that they have no found they

921
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:47,719
believe that a political ideology, they believe that economics, they

922
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:52,000
believe that private property rights, they believe that don't hurt people,

923
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:57,199
and don't take their stuff replaces God's kingdom and it

924
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,400
just doesn't.

925
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,039
Speaker 1: No, you know. And in order to have like a

926
01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:08,920
Libertinian society, you would need like an entire society of

927
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:14,039
like Lou Rockwells, yeah, right, like like personally very conservative

928
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,159
family guys who were been married for years and have

929
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,199
like his biggest like the biggest thing is like he

930
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:24,320
wants to build a good society for his grandkids and

931
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,199
his great grand kids.

932
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: Like that's.

933
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: Or like a Ron Paul right, you know, I'm sure

934
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,840
you've seen that, like the Christmas photo of like Ron

935
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,239
and Carol and like they're huge family and all their

936
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,119
grandkids and great grand kids like that. That's what you

937
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:45,920
would need, is like that's where it's him and his

938
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,079
lovely wife who they've been married, I think over fifty years,

939
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,119
and they had a bunch of kids, and all their

940
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:54,920
kids had a bunch of kids, and and all their

941
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,800
kids kids had kids, and so there's like babies and

942
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:02,239
children and grandchildren and like you know.

943
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,559
Speaker 2: They all look alike. They all look alike. Yeah, you

944
01:03:06,679 --> 01:03:07,039
can tell.

945
01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: Like there's there's like, you know, an eight year old

946
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,760
kid who's got like the same impish grade as his

947
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,199
grandpa just sitting there like smiling and like I'm with

948
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,199
my grandpa and all my aunts and uncles and my cousins,

949
01:03:15,239 --> 01:03:19,440
and it's cool. That's like, you want to build a

950
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,320
libertarian society, a Christian society, That's that's what you'd have

951
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,679
to do. You'd have to make that normative. But you know,

952
01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:29,639
for all that, I no longer consider myself a libertarian.

953
01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:34,400
I still an unambassad admirer of doctor Paul and personally

954
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:40,519
and like you know, politically I can say he's a

955
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:42,639
man of principle. But that's what you would need that

956
01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:45,519
to be the norm, right, And the trouble is, of course,

957
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:48,000
that that that's not the norm. Like, like Ron Paul

958
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:52,679
is an outstanding human being, right, you know, he says

959
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,440
like he's interested in the free market. Well then why

960
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,039
did he deliver all those babies for free?

961
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,239
Speaker 2: Oh it wasn't free. I think he charged four dollars

962
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,159
or something like that.

963
01:04:06,159 --> 01:04:09,519
Speaker 1: Right, like four dollars or a dozen eggs, right, Like

964
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,679
you know, like this, Well he did that because he's

965
01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:16,519
a because he's a good Christian man.

966
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:19,559
Speaker 2: That's why he did it.

967
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: That's that's why Ron Paul was able to make liberty

968
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,679
in his works because he is personally an outstanding person

969
01:04:29,639 --> 01:04:34,719
and a good Christian who loves his neighbors. I was

970
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,199
on My Buddy Tommy Simmons show, I think it was

971
01:04:38,239 --> 01:04:42,519
actually dropping today, and he's still at the Libertarian Institute

972
01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:45,199
and he wanted me to come on because I got

973
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:49,360
into it with a few libertarians on Twitter and he's like, oh, well,

974
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:50,639
you know, why don't you come on and you know,

975
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,639
talk about where you're at and everything. And one of

976
01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:56,719
the things I told him was, I said, look, if

977
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:01,199
you ever got to a libertarian society, if they're ever

978
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:06,360
like popped up this like pocket of libertarianism, you really

979
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:12,360
need to understand that culturally, it's going to look exactly

980
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:17,880
like what I want, Like the society that I want.

981
01:05:18,639 --> 01:05:20,960
Everybody's gonna have a common language, everyone's gonna have a

982
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,039
common skin color, everyone's probably gonna have a common religion.

983
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:30,079
Everyone's it's going to be it's going to be a monoculture.

984
01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:34,920
And that's one thing that people can't under People don't understand.

985
01:05:35,719 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: I told him. I said, you just cannot, you know.

986
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,199
And one of the things Corey said, Corey Miller said

987
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:45,559
on a recent podcast, because people will be like, well,

988
01:05:46,599 --> 01:05:48,599
you know in the church, when people come into the church,

989
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:51,679
they're the same, and you know they all you know,

990
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,480
this is something that you know Michael Jones talks about,

991
01:05:54,519 --> 01:05:57,960
which is, you know, I love the man. What he's

992
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:05,480
done to expose our oldest enemy is undeniable. But we're

993
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:07,840
just not all the same. You know what mister Mahler

994
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,559
said was he said, when you have a church, when

995
01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:14,360
you have a church in Europe, the church needs to

996
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,559
be run by Europeans. He goes, But if you set

997
01:06:17,639 --> 01:06:21,480
up a church in like Namibia, that church needs to

998
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:26,840
be run by Europeans. They're not They're not going to

999
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:33,519
be capable of the faith on their own.

1000
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, look about Archbishop left to say, and he was.

1001
01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:43,159
He was effectively the archbishop of all of French speaking

1002
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:46,199
West Africa and the superior general of the Holy ghost Fathers,

1003
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:53,039
who were primarily responsible for evangelizing West Africa. So everything

1004
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:56,360
good that's happened in Africa for the last fifty years

1005
01:06:56,559 --> 01:07:00,280
in West Africa, French speaking West Africa is either directly

1006
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:05,360
or indirectly. You know, the responsibility of one Archbishop marcell F.

1007
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:13,119
Speaker 2: F And you know, it's been my.

1008
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:21,239
Speaker 1: Experience with actual African Christians you know when you live

1009
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:26,239
in royal business areas, right like you get Nigerians, then

1010
01:07:26,239 --> 01:07:32,559
they will be like Jerome. You must understand. Demons are everywhere.

1011
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:43,519
Demons haunt Africa like mosquitoes haunt moose in summer time.

1012
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: Or deer.

1013
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: They are everywhere. They are like flies on horsepoop. Demons everywhere,

1014
01:07:53,800 --> 01:08:01,960
ancestor demons, local demons, family, demons, tribe demons. They are everywhere,

1015
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:13,639
and we cannot fight them ourselves. We need the white

1016
01:08:13,719 --> 01:08:16,640
man and his Christianity to get rid of the demons.

1017
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,880
Conversation I've I've straight up had like like like sitting

1018
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:32,199
in Houston and talking to some Nigerian guys in the

1019
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:37,960
oil business and demons everywhere. You must understand demons.

1020
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have talked to other Catholics who talk about

1021
01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:45,319
someone like Bishop Sarah and talk about how great he

1022
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,119
is and how you know, just how based he is,

1023
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:54,439
And I'm like, that didn't happen in a vacuum. It's

1024
01:08:54,479 --> 01:09:00,720
not like he discovered the Catholic faith and just studied

1025
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:06,800
on his own and that's the way he became. No Europeans.

1026
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:11,920
White Europeans went there, went to Africa and taught and

1027
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:16,079
demanded of and said this is the way we do things.

1028
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:19,279
You do not deviate in one direction or the other.

1029
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:26,239
And that's it. And that because we're in this this

1030
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:33,079
liberal order, this Nuremberg regime, that's unacceptable to them. You're

1031
01:09:33,239 --> 01:09:37,760
not allowed to have truth. Truth is whatever we say,

1032
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,279
whatever they say, it is from week to week. And

1033
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:44,560
all you have to do is they're apparatrics in the

1034
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,720
news will tell you what the truth is that week,

1035
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,520
and what morality is that week quote unquote morality.

1036
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: Right, because because Barack Obama and you know, Hillary Clinton

1037
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,279
when they first ran for president, were anti gay marriage.

1038
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:01,960
But now right if you say, well if very into

1039
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,680
gay marriage, you're a helpless bigot, what like Barack Obama

1040
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:11,159
and Bill Clinton? Yeah? Right, like and what's astonishing? Right,

1041
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:12,720
And this is one of those things that just proves

1042
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:19,399
most people, you know, it's it's downstream from power. The

1043
01:10:20,039 --> 01:10:24,199
ridiculous Supreme Court decision that said, like two dudes is

1044
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:33,399
the same as as married people with children. Right, Oh,

1045
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:38,439
I'll never accept that. That's completely like your methodistritch just

1046
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:44,880
complete accepts it. Sound you know, where where's the where's

1047
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:50,279
the contra mundum? You know, church saying saying you know

1048
01:10:50,319 --> 01:10:54,399
that it's willing to stand and say this is ridiculous, right,

1049
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,039
because you know, if you don't have gay marriage so

1050
01:10:58,199 --> 01:11:00,399
called right, you don't end up with transgender.

1051
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: You know.

1052
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:05,199
Speaker 1: And you can draw a pretty pretty fair line from

1053
01:11:07,039 --> 01:11:11,399
contraception to abortion where you know, pornography to contraception to abortion,

1054
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:20,199
from thence to feminism and acceptance of homosexuality and homosexual

1055
01:11:20,279 --> 01:11:24,560
you know, homosexual soudomantic marriage quote unquote, and from there

1056
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,680
to transagorism. It's a pretty straight line actually, if you

1057
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,119
think about it. More than a couple of seconds of

1058
01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:36,239
human IVD unfortunately proved right on this point. And you know,

1059
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:41,079
any libertarian social order, right, most ninety percent of libertarians

1060
01:11:41,119 --> 01:11:43,720
will be like, well, of course you it's a free

1061
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,399
expression to publish.

1062
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 2: You know, love is love. You can love anyone you want,

1063
01:11:50,319 --> 01:11:53,479
right the First Amendment. Bro, you can't tell them that

1064
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:58,800
they can't sell pornography, that the pornographer should be in jail. Well, well, really,

1065
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,680
this is just what you're talking about. Is what they

1066
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:10,079
call a fallacy, the slippery slope. And I explained it earlier.

1067
01:12:10,119 --> 01:12:12,880
I explained earlier why the slippery slope isn't a fallacy

1068
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:21,199
because we're meant to our faith. Our truth is based

1069
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:26,279
upon a rock, not built on sand, not a foundation

1070
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:31,319
built on sand, but built on a rock. And as

1071
01:12:31,399 --> 01:12:33,760
soon as you start rolling that rock, as soon as

1072
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,600
you start saying, okay, well we can go this way,

1073
01:12:37,119 --> 01:12:41,800
well we can do this, it all just flows from

1074
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:51,319
it your where formerly you stood for something, where people were.

1075
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,920
And this is another thing that most people don't get

1076
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,119
because of modernity, because of this post Nuremberg order, is

1077
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,039
the average person ninety nine percent of the people in

1078
01:13:04,119 --> 01:13:08,960
the world wants stability. Deep down inside, they know they

1079
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,319
want stability, they know they want the truth, they know

1080
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,680
they just want that one thing that they can gravitate

1081
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:21,800
to that grounds them. They're not allowed to happen anymore.

1082
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:28,119
And everything that would possibly be that must be destroyed

1083
01:13:29,279 --> 01:13:29,880
exactly right.

1084
01:13:30,079 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: And that thing that must be destroyed because it is

1085
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:38,720
a because it doesn't move right, then you have to

1086
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,960
destroy it. And I know that you've talked quite a

1087
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,079
bit about Spain and the civil war in Spain and

1088
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:51,800
what had happened previously, and I would strongly recommend to everybody,

1089
01:13:52,159 --> 01:13:56,279
especially I think all Calyaks should be familiar with the

1090
01:13:56,279 --> 01:13:59,159
confidence Spain, because I think it's it's a microcosm of

1091
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:04,800
all our problems to day, I really do. But in particular,

1092
01:14:06,279 --> 01:14:10,760
you're reading of the great Catholic who Warren Carroll, who

1093
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,479
founded Christenden College in front Royal Virginia. He wrote a

1094
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:22,439
wonderful book. Uh, last said last crusaid, Yeah, and you

1095
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,079
did a reading of that on your show. That that

1096
01:14:26,039 --> 01:14:29,479
is just wonderful. Everyone should check that out. The most

1097
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,960
emotional thing I've ever done. Oh dude, I can't even

1098
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:37,479
talk about this because I was without crying. He's right there.

1099
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,520
You just just heard me start to tear up because

1100
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:44,199
it It just moves me every time. But when you

1101
01:14:45,079 --> 01:14:53,880
understand that the post vat I can do. Church in Spain,

1102
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,159
the church was the rock that stood against the tide

1103
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:05,720
of of Red Bolshevism, and the church is what allowed

1104
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,039
those those great heroes of the Alcazara and elsewhere to

1105
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,600
plant their feet firmly and resist. And that therefore that

1106
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,560
church was broken. And now you see in Spain, you know,

1107
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,720
they have no children, no one goes to Mass anymore.

1108
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,520
And the Spain that brought the Gospel to the far

1109
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:31,399
ends of the earth, you know, to the Philippines, to Japan,

1110
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,680
to you know, literally all the way around the world

1111
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:34,760
to South America to.

1112
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:37,159
Speaker 2: Everywhere.

1113
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, the Spain and Portugal. Right, those two anti

1114
01:15:41,039 --> 01:15:46,920
liberal regimes of Salazari and of Franco, they were undermined

1115
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,279
from from within by.

1116
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: The post.

1117
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,319
Speaker 1: Uh you know revolution Church because the Church had bought

1118
01:15:57,399 --> 01:16:05,000
into the revolution, and that both destroyed the nation and

1119
01:16:05,159 --> 01:16:11,199
destroyed the church in Spain and in Portugal because the

1120
01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:16,079
Church refused to just stand and say no. And it

1121
01:16:16,199 --> 01:16:21,119
was because the Church stood and said no that unfortunately,

1122
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:23,479
you know, the United States of America is revolutionary nasi.

1123
01:16:24,279 --> 01:16:26,680
You know, the CIA had a great deal to do

1124
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,159
with the Carnation Revolution and the overthrow of Franco and

1125
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:33,800
the installation of so called democracy, where you know, fifty

1126
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,880
years on, they're they're digging up dead men who died

1127
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:43,039
as heroes and disentering their bodies because everything that is

1128
01:16:43,119 --> 01:16:44,920
good must be torn down because it's illiberal.

1129
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:51,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, the it reminds me that you know that this

1130
01:16:51,359 --> 01:16:57,760
was all a reaction to communism spreading Marxism, and we

1131
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,720
know where that comes from. And then you have someone

1132
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,520
today like you have people who say, oh, well, there's

1133
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,079
cultural Marxism. They gave up on the economics, they gave

1134
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:12,560
up on the which they really haven't, and they gave

1135
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:17,720
up on the political communism and just bit of cultural.

1136
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,319
I would say they didn't give up on either, but

1137
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:25,439
the cultural is more obvious. And in the twentieth century,

1138
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:35,039
the one example we have of the fight against that

1139
01:17:35,359 --> 01:17:40,760
and the destruction of it is in Spain, and I

1140
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,680
don't think they could have done it without the help

1141
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:48,159
of Germany and Italy, who you know, supplied arms, supplied soldiers,

1142
01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:54,239
supplied planes. But they won. And one of the reasons,

1143
01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:57,880
probably the biggest reason they want is because of their Catholicism.

1144
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,960
Franko went to Mass every day. He you know, one

1145
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,479
thing I know about someone who goes to Mass every

1146
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,119
day is somebody who does not hold themselves in the

1147
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:13,960
highest regard. They see themselves as a sinner, they see

1148
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,520
themselves as somebody who who needs saving. They see them

1149
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:23,640
itself as somebody who is imperfect. And then you look

1150
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:28,640
today and you see that this has taken over again,

1151
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:35,399
and that the ideology has spread and it's jumped into conservatism, libertarianism,

1152
01:18:36,079 --> 01:18:41,039
basically everything. And the one way to fight it, one

1153
01:18:41,119 --> 01:18:42,800
way we know in the past to fight it is

1154
01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:49,239
Catholicism and is people's Catholic faith. And then you see

1155
01:18:49,319 --> 01:18:55,840
somebody like who Protestant churches go to, like James Lindsey,

1156
01:18:56,359 --> 01:18:59,880
who's just a liberal and hates hates anyone, he hates God,

1157
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,000
he hates the Lord, he hates anyone. Yeah.

1158
01:19:03,359 --> 01:19:07,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and Leon de grell A noted faithful Catholic

1159
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:11,359
his whole life, right like he saw what was up.

1160
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,239
You can read read his writing and he'll tell you

1161
01:19:15,079 --> 01:19:19,319
why they fought, and it's because he was a Catholic. Fundamentally.

1162
01:19:19,399 --> 01:19:22,279
The reason leonder girl, you know, earned the Knight's Cross

1163
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,600
multiple times on the Eastern Front was because he was

1164
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:26,279
a Catholic.

1165
01:19:28,079 --> 01:19:33,359
Speaker 2: And everything there. Thomas posted a picture of him on

1166
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:40,760
you know, on the Eastern Front receiving receiving the host.

1167
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:47,640
That was quite emotional. But your people turn, you know.

1168
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,439
Another thing that people need to realize is you can't

1169
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,920
turn to people who hate you. There are some people

1170
01:19:55,079 --> 01:19:58,079
out there, and I mentioned James Lindsay a little while ago,

1171
01:19:58,159 --> 01:20:04,800
who can tell you what's going on. But their their

1172
01:20:05,039 --> 01:20:07,600
answer to it. The way they want to fight it

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is by using liberalism. And if you mentioned Catholicism to him,

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he gets high oh, he loses his mind. And he

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01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:24,760
he has said somebody, somebody, I have a screenshot of

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the tweets somewhere. Somebody had said, so you know, we

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need we need trad caath in the West, and he said,

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if it comes to that, I would rather the left

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would win.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because right, like, I don't know what his problem

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01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,399
is growing up, like he got told that he was

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a naughty boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: He grew up in Tennessee. From what I understand, you

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would you would expect better, Yeah, you would, you would.

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But he's a very strange man. And that's again all

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of these problems. People's problem is fundamentally that the church

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was a liberal and that that that church had to

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be destroyed. And a church that is illiberal, like John

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Henry Newman had this one hundred and thirty years ago.

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He can be liberal or you can be Christian, but

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01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,760
you can't be both. Right, A church that is a

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01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,079
liberal is not worth because then you're going to change

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01:21:26,119 --> 01:21:30,439
dogmas change. What use is any dogmin then if it does,

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01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,439
if it does, if it if it can change. The

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01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:36,920
whole point of dogmas is that they don't change. It's

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not the ten suggestions, right, right, you know the ten

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01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,840
strongly worded suggestions that may or may not change depending

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01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,880
on the circumstances and who is oppressing whom and who

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is saying them, and if they're intersectionally higher up than that,

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01:21:53,119 --> 01:21:58,479
you know, like, no, there's ten commandments. It's the law

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01:21:58,720 --> 01:21:59,119
of God.

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Speaker 1: Those are the things that we have to worry about.

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01:22:04,319 --> 01:22:09,119
And it's not necessarily that you know, God wants to

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01:22:09,159 --> 01:22:12,239
oppress us or take away our fundies, or you know,

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01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:17,319
God's going to reach down and like, you know, take

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01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:21,520
awhile all your fun by you know, putting out your

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01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,279
joint and making sure that the only funzies you're having

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01:22:25,319 --> 01:22:27,239
with your pants off is like in marriage with the

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01:22:27,319 --> 01:22:27,800
lights off.

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Speaker 2: It's that.

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Speaker 1: When you do certain things, you damage yourself and they're bad.

1212
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,159
And smoking weed is like smacking yourself in the face

1213
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:44,840
with a hammer, Like you can do it. It's just

1214
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,399
a dumb idea. Like if you want to make yourself dumber,

1215
01:22:49,359 --> 01:22:54,439
go ahead, I guess, but it's not good for you

1216
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:55,359
and you shouldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: One thing that I've been trying to if there is

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one thing in the past few months that I've been

1219
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:09,520
trying to get through to people, because people have this idea,

1220
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:14,000
you know, hippie Jesus, is that you know, hippie hippie

1221
01:23:14,039 --> 01:23:17,880
Jesus told us that, you know, we're supposed to love

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01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:24,880
our enemies. And I love to break people's brains by

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01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,920
telling them that he said to love our enemies. He

1224
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:36,000
didn't say to love his enemies nowhere. No, as a

1225
01:23:36,079 --> 01:23:41,600
matter of fact, commit them with the perfect hatred. Yes. Yes,

1226
01:23:42,079 --> 01:23:46,720
and in many places you are commanded to do much

1227
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:54,159
more than that. But you know, the churches, the church

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01:23:54,199 --> 01:23:57,920
has fall into. Get to the spirit of the age,

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and the spirit of this age is is liberalism.

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Speaker 1: Is satan, it's non servian. Yeah, well, I mean I

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01:24:09,119 --> 01:24:10,600
don't think we can do much better than that.

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01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:24:13,399 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: I want to thank you, thank you very much for

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01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:17,920
Pete for being on fundamental principle. Could you tell people

1235
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,319
where that you can be found in various ways to

1236
01:24:21,319 --> 01:24:25,800
support you and and whatever projects you might have going on.

1237
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:32,359
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, the Peak and Yanna show all podcatchers Pete

1238
01:24:32,399 --> 01:24:36,239
substack dot com. You can get you can go right

1239
01:24:36,279 --> 01:24:39,000
to the podcast on a podcast at peakq dot org.

1240
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:45,800
The Old Glory Club it's a bunch of heritage Americans

1241
01:24:47,039 --> 01:24:51,560
got together and form a fraternity and just coming together

1242
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,199
to to support each other, to raise each other up.

1243
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,399
And you know, I would also say I have a

1244
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,479
new we have a new project that Jerome here is

1245
01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:08,800
invited to and will be on soon called The Inquisition

1246
01:25:09,039 --> 01:25:12,880
with Thomas seven seven seven Stormy Waters Astral from Aster

1247
01:25:13,039 --> 01:25:17,199
Flight Projection. And it's just a panel show where we

1248
01:25:17,399 --> 01:25:23,079
talk about important, important subjects like this, So watch out

1249
01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:25,199
for that. I always put it on my on my

1250
01:25:25,319 --> 01:25:28,159
podcast feed and that's been getting a lot of great

1251
01:25:28,239 --> 01:25:34,479
feedback lately. Is as conversations that people should be having

1252
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,920
but aren't. So yeah, I.

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01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: Believe that that was the record here pretty soon, so

1254
01:25:41,399 --> 01:25:44,279
please keep an eye on for that. And you know,

1255
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,359
ladies and gentlemen, wellsee, gentlemen, the goal of this project

1256
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:53,640
is to is to give you the facts. Our Lord said,

1257
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,840
I am the way the truth in life, and those

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01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:01,439
are all capitol W, capital G, capital L, and all

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01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,399
constituent truths are somehow in his providence, part of his plan.

1260
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,159
And people that lie to you about really important stuff,

1261
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:12,840
whether that be in the religious slalm like liberalism, liberal

1262
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,520
religion like dogmas don't matter, and that the faith of

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01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,600
your children, you know, not mattering. They can just be

1264
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,119
saved by being good people. That's palagianism, that's a heresy,

1265
01:26:24,199 --> 01:26:28,720
that's you know, thousands of years old. That's not true.

1266
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,880
And as a dad, as a man, it's your job

1267
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,159
to go out there and fight for the truth. And

1268
01:26:39,079 --> 01:26:41,319
there's a lot of truths out there that unfortunately that

1269
01:26:41,399 --> 01:26:46,319
are really really important right now, that most people aren't

1270
01:26:46,319 --> 01:26:48,359
willing to talk about. And that's the goal with this

1271
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,720
project is to talk about those things. And so I

1272
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:56,600
want to thank mister Canonan is here for his time

1273
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,960
and for his good work. I'm fighting for the truth.

1274
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,920
Thank you, Pete, and we'll be back next time. Fundamental

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Principle signing out, Thank you m