WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:10.599 You see, something's going to happen. What what's going to happen? 2 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 3 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:22.719 Help? 4 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:28.600 Welcome to the occult rejects. This episode, we got a 5 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:30.120 little bit of a cult and we got a little 6 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:33.719 bit of true crime coming at you today. I got 7 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:37.039 a bunch of rejects with me. I got a couple 8 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:41.679 of people joining us. Lisa the occult reject man scientist 9 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:46.079 is here with us today, and uh and Lisa, thank 10 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:48.679 you very much for joining us. I appreciate it. And 11 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:52.560 we got Julia Cosmic Peach here with us as well. 12 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:54.119 You know, it was true crime and it was some 13 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:57.119 weird occult shit, so I figured, why not bring Cosmic 14 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:57.840 Peach alone? 15 00:00:58.479 --> 00:00:59.960 Does this make me an official? 16 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:00.880 Yes? 17 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:04.159 I know what I introduced it like that. 18 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:05.680 I was like, I kind of put myself. 19 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:05.840 On the spot. 20 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:08.480 If she quote me, now, you have. 21 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:11.480 To say, Julia the Cosmic Peacha cult. 22 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:17.560 Reject, Julia the Picha cult reject is joining us today. 23 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:18.319 You're welcome. 24 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:21.519 You're welcome. And uh yeah, Julia, please plug all your 25 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:23.680 stuff and let everybody know where they can find all 26 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:24.760 your amazing work. Please. 27 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:25.280 Yeah. 28 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:25.719 Thanks. 29 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.200 So wherever you listen to podcasts not YouTube, fuck them. 30 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.359 Every Saturday on the Cult of Conspiracy podcast. I do 31 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.239 a once a week's show over there and Patreon. If 32 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.760 you're feeling frisky, you can get some extras in early 33 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.879 access to everything. Thanks for having me. I am officially 34 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:46.000 an Occult reject. 35 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:48.920 Thank you. Thank you so much, Julia for joining us. 36 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.959 I really appreciate it. And JJ Vance, last but not least, 37 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:55.319 my favorite garbage can Dude, what is up? 38 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:55.519 Man? 39 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.760 Let everybody know where they can find all your amazing 40 00:01:57.799 --> 00:01:58.760 research as well. 41 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:00.319 Nick. 42 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:03.519 I appreciate the invite, uh, JJ Vance host of Operation 43 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:08.280 g c D. Not not the vice president, Lisa Juliet. Great, 44 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:12.000 great cel game. Looking for the conversation right right, Great 45 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.360 to meet you the uh. You know this topic of 46 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.479 conversations right in my wheelhouse, you know, sadly enough, ritual 47 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:18.319 human sacrifice. 48 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:20.759 Now you're now you're talking my language, you know what 49 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:21.080 I mean? 50 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:25.360 So I cover I cover those topics on Operation g 51 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:28.400 c D quite frequently, amongst many other things. 52 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:31.319 And UH do a live show. 53 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:34.520 On Wednesday nights on YouTube Rumble and Twister and Friday 54 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:39.080 nights Fridays with the Occult Rejects Nick on the same 55 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:44.120 same platforms. Yes also on RSS, fees and whatnot as well, 56 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:45.360 but yeah, looking. 57 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:45.919 For to the conversation. 58 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:50.120 Yeah, definitely, uh, definitely wasn't familiar with this topic, but 59 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:53.520 I'm uh, you know, it will be nice interesting, that's 60 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:53.879 for sure. 61 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.120 So JJ, when you go like on speed dating or 62 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.360 on dating apps, you put down that line about if 63 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:01.919 you're talking about whatever that was, you're talking. 64 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:08.680 Like, yeah, right, human sacrifice. 65 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:10.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you're into that. 66 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:16.080 I said, I want to dating site. They would tell 67 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.280 me that isn't a great idea. Conspiracy, It probably would 68 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:24.520 work all the conspiracies. You're into flat earth, and then 69 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:28.080 you connect with other conspiracy theorists and then you make 70 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:30.319 conspiracy babies and then we start. 71 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:32.400 An army conspiracy babies and. 72 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:33.360 We take over the world. 73 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:34.639 There we go. 74 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.080 I'm sorry, this is your show, not mine. 75 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:44.280 We're getting there. We getting there three and a half 76 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:46.240 minutes and we're finally going to get to the guests. 77 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:53.159 So ORAI code Codex of curiosities. My man, Please let 78 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:56.280 everybody know what your deal is, what your show is about, 79 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.680 what's up and whatever you want to plug? Please? 80 00:03:58.800 --> 00:03:59.199 All right? 81 00:03:59.240 --> 00:03:59.400 Cool? 82 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:07.000 Cool, Yeah, my show is conspiracies, Dating and conspiracies. No. 83 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:10.120 I was just like they took me a second. I 84 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:11.360 was like, wait, I'm just. 85 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:12.360 Gonna steal that right now. 86 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:12.639 No. 87 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:18.480 Yeah, So my show does we do conspiracies. I do 88 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:24.439 Lost History, I do you know, paranormal, supernatural, UFO, abduction, 89 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:26.839 all the like, everything that kind of falls in there 90 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.959 is what I do. And then I do the odd. 91 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.879 I've done two true crime episodes because they're just that 92 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.600 out there, that crazy, and and the one we're gonna 93 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:39.279 be talking about tonight is one of them, you know, 94 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:43.160 because it was just an attention grapper, and considering that 95 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:45.759 I live here in Mexico, it was something else that 96 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.319 was kind of a dear to me, not just being 97 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:51.959 these you know, sacrificial human sacrificial kind of things. It's 98 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.199 just let's let's get into it. Let's find out the 99 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:58.519 true nitty gritty about Mexico here. And my show can 100 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:02.399 be found everywhere, you know, I bow down to YouTube, 101 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:08.319 Julia there. Yeah, but so I'm in YouTube, rumble, uh, 102 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.800 you know, audio wherever you can find it. It's it's 103 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:15.199 the typical and again Codegas Codex of curiosities. 104 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.319 I'll definitely say you have. You know when I first 105 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:18.800 came across I think I told you in DM I 106 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:20.160 was like I thought you were only true crime. I 107 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:22.040 must have looked at the only two shows you've. 108 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:26.439 Done exactly exactly. It was Jack the Ripper and this 109 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:32.000 this called the Magdalena Sold this the Vampiric Blood Priestess. 110 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:32.399 Yeah. 111 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:34.399 And then and then when I went back and looked 112 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:36.920 at your stuff, I was just, you know, more of 113 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:39.000 your stuff. I was just like, Oh, this guy covers 114 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:44.680 like everything. Yeah, I thought crime dab. Yeah, he does 115 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:46.879 have a slew of different types of topics for sure. 116 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:51.040 Yeah, it was between those two. 117 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.439 When I saw that, I was like, ah, but same 118 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.680 last name as Lisa. I'll ask him for that first. 119 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:57.639 Of course. 120 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:01.839 Yeah that's yeah. So so do we want to get 121 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.160 into it or yeah, let's just jump right into it. Okay, 122 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:08.360 So the topic what we're going to be talking about 123 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:12.560 is a place in Mexico and San Luis Potosi called 124 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:16.480 Yoba Buena. And this is small, Like when I say small, 125 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:19.160 that doesn't even doesn't even cut it. You know, it's 126 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:22.680 it's tiny, tiny, little village. That was this this village 127 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:25.920 and this was this took place in the early sixties. Okay, 128 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:30.800 and like, but but before we jump too deep into it, 129 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.000 we got to do a little bit of background on 130 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:38.120 the two main proponents of this who kind of started 131 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.319 this all, and that was so we're going to talk 132 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:46.000 about Santos and uh Cayetano Ornandez. Now, these were two 133 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:49.839 brothers who were just lifelong scam artists. That's that's all 134 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:51.639 they did. You know. They would go from one place 135 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:55.279 to another place, and they they were driving along and 136 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:58.240 they just left or or had been run out of town, 137 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:03.720 which is usually the typical what happened with them. So 138 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.480 they're just leaving for one scam and they stumbled upon 139 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:09.399 your bewenna. They could see this town off in the distance, 140 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:12.000 and they noticed that there was no power lines running 141 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:16.199 there and there was no they didn't see a church 142 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:20.920 or they didn't see what else, Yeah, or a school 143 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.959 as well, And so if you think about it, there 144 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.639 was with that meant. What that meant was there's no 145 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:30.360 contact from the outside world, no education, and no organized 146 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:34.120 religion to keep these people kind of on the righteous path. 147 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:38.439 Right, imagine looking for stuff like that, things to check off. 148 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:42.480 I could go there, the manipulation. I haven't thought of that, 149 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:43.240 but it makes sense. 150 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:50.279 And your bewenna means good herb Okay, So if you 151 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:52.720 if you get the feeling where that's coming from. That 152 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:55.399 was most likely it was. It got its name from 153 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:59.000 the cartels who used to work in that area and 154 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:02.079 we use the fields to grow their crops. But they 155 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.439 were eventually run out by the federal allies. So that's 156 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:08.759 a kind of already god it's name, you know, maybe 157 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:12.560 or Buena also means spearmint as well, but I believe 158 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:14.399 we're going to go with the fact that it's a 159 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:17.079 good herb. Is really where they got that name from. 160 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:20.639 Now let's get back to the story here. So now, 161 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:24.319 these these two brothers, they they decided they came up 162 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:27.959 with this hair brain scheme to pose as prophets of 163 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:34.679 ancient Inca gods. Now, if anybody knows anything about geography 164 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:38.639 and you know, ancient civilizations, you would know that the 165 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:42.559 Incas aren't native to Peru. I mean, sorry, not native 166 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:45.559 to Mexico. They're native to Peru. So like this is 167 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:50.559 this is ridiculous to begin with already. But they went 168 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.120 in and they went into the villagers, and they said 169 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:57.919 that they were priests or prophets of these ancient Inca gods, 170 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.279 and they were there to paved the way for the 171 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.440 return of these gods, and with that they promised the 172 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:08.679 villagers that there was hidden treasures and they would give 173 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:13.080 these hidden treasures to these villagers in exchange for worship 174 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:18.480 and tributes. Now what that what that entailed was like 175 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:23.840 free food, free booze, lots of sex, pretty much anything 176 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:30.480 else they wanted from the villagers. All right, So that's yeah, 177 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:31.840 exactly exactly. 178 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:34.399 So it's crazy in the sixties that can still happen. 179 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:36.039 I mean, listen, I can understand that you end up 180 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:39.080 in like, you know, the rainforest someplace in Africa, but 181 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:40.360 I mean in Mexico. 182 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:45.600 Well remember Nick, the sixties were like Laurel Canyon program 183 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:49.639 to kill serial killers and you know all that stuff. 184 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:52.559 It doesn't surprise me. There was so many cults that 185 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.720 broke out in the sixties. It makes your headspind it's craziness. 186 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.679 But I think like in Sun Louis Potos, it wasn't 187 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:04.399 in dominantly indigenous still, like it's so the tourist attraction 188 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:05.639 that it is now today. 189 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:09.000 I believe so, I completely believe so. And one of 190 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.240 you know, everybody knows one of the things of cults 191 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.720 is to isolate your the people, you know, keep them isolated. 192 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:17.840 But that's already happened in this town is already completely isolated, 193 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:19.799 you know, and they were they were long gone and 194 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:23.120 forgotten already. You know, they were taking advantage of by 195 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:26.440 the cartel. But the cartel's now gone. So all they 196 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:29.240 were doing for for income was like selling beans and corn. 197 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:33.320 That's it. So like again, calling this a village really 198 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.759 wasn't doing it justice. It was much smaller, you know, 199 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.720 it was just a community of sorts because like I said, 200 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.679 I think I mentioned that there is about like maybe 201 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.799 fifty people living there. Okay, so I have. 202 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:48.240 A question these brothers, were they like learn it at 203 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:51.639 all or do they say, like which specific gods they 204 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:52.759 were representing? 205 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:57.960 Well, they just kind of just like gods. Yeah, okay, 206 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.279 because these these people don't really know they're like sure, 207 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.639 sure that that sounds like. And these men weren't learning 208 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:08.639 like you know, they I don't know the full background 209 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:11.840 of they had enough education to be able to pull 210 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.159 off some good scams, right, and be able to manipulate people, 211 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:17.480 which you got to have some education be able to 212 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:18.039 do that. 213 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:24.000 At least more than the people you're taking advantage exactly. 214 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:26.519 Yeah, they got their grade ten and everybody else has 215 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:28.159 the Grade nine, So there we go. 216 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:31.720 Was was there a lot of other known cold activity 217 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:32.879 in around that area at the time? 218 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:34.279 Do they get did they get bit with a New 219 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:34.840 Age bug? 220 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.840 Not that I know of, I don't. I don't know that, 221 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:42.600 but yeah, like the New Age like peace love and 222 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:44.200 you know, like the Hippie movement. 223 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:47.480 I did, because I mean scientology was in that and around. 224 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:49.320 I mean, I don't know that area of Mexico, but 225 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.120 they've been operating in Mexico since the nineteen sixties, late 226 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:53.679 nineteen fifty. 227 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:55.840 So there's I think they were in school which was 228 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:57.799 over in Yucatan, which is. 229 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.799 Down there, but they have these child farms they've been 230 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:05.039 operating to which they're not exactly. 231 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:10.240 The Yucatan were they located sture t U l Okay. 232 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:13.799 It's still the same name, but San Luis Potosi is 233 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:17.399 correct me if I'm wrong. It's north of Monterey. No, I'm 234 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:18.639 not Mexico City. 235 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:25.120 Sorry, yes, but it is near Monterey, very near Monterey. 236 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:26.279 Right, which is not that far from like the Matamoros 237 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:28.519 cold that would they would erupt in the seventies and eighties. 238 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.600 It's further south, right, isn't it. 239 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:36.120 Yeah, And it's on the coast, Yes, close to being 240 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:36.919 on the coast. 241 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.240 Yes, same state though right, same. 242 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:44.279 No, I think no, I think I think they're more 243 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:47.279 northern states. Yeah, what is that the. 244 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:53.200 Name of its I'm not good with American names first 245 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.679 and foremost, so Mexican names not my not my thing. 246 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.679 But that's how you pronounced it. I often wonder how 247 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:03.360 much cold activity. 248 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.120 Went in around that area, and looking into this cold 249 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.240 I'd never heard of as I go, Wow, there's far 250 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.759 more cold activity in that region than I you know, previously. 251 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:14.000 Did the brothers have any like military, like ex military, 252 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:20.279 any governmental nothing where they're fit, where their grandparents Satanists, 253 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:23.840 where they like part of generational Satanism, anything like that. 254 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:27.240 No, no, not they. 255 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:29.759 They just broke out on their own kind of. 256 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:37.399 Yes, exactly exactly. And yeah, so Tampico is on the 257 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:42.320 east coast? Is is that what you're saying? But this area, 258 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:45.879 I believe San Luis Potosi is is not is a 259 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:50.840 bit north. It's it's north of Mexico City, but it's 260 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:53.600 it's still south of it's kind of in between. I 261 00:13:53.639 --> 00:13:54.799 don't know if we want to stay in between the 262 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:58.919 border of like of the US and Mexico City. It's 263 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:00.639 I don't want to say halfway. No, it's it's much 264 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:01.840 closer to Mexico City. 265 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.240 But yeah, I'm not going to Mexican geography anyway. Between 266 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.120 what you're saying, Monterey, Mexico City. I can picture those places, 267 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:11.720 but anything else between, like I'm not not certain of. 268 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:13.720 Not no problem, no problem. 269 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:14.000 Yeah. 270 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:17.360 So yeah, it's it's north of Mexico City and south 271 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:19.600 of Monterey is where we're going to find it. 272 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.639 But this is kind of an abnormal theology, you know, 273 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:24.799 this not just the Incins is your point now coming 274 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:27.519 to New Mexico claim to be representing Incan gods? But 275 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.120 from from what it seems like with this cold, it's not. 276 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.039 It's not rooted in local folklore. 277 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:37.879 At this point. No, at this point. No, it changes though, 278 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:42.480 it changes gears, and and that's when things get get 279 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:43.320 a little crazy. 280 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:44.559 Okay. 281 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:48.759 Yeah, so yeah, and it's like these guys were just 282 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:53.039 career criminals going around finding targets, finding hits. But this 283 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:55.879 was the craziest one of them all. You know, like before, 284 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.240 it's I believe before a most smaller you know, like 285 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:04.039 hitting families, hitting up families and smaller areas or smaller 286 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:07.080 like targets, but this was this was their big hit 287 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:10.720 on this one. And one of the issues though with 288 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:12.879 this is if we're going back to the story, is 289 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:18.039 that they they they continued this charade for a couple 290 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:22.559 of weeks, people were starting to like it. They didn't 291 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:25.200 really bring anything to the table though. They just kept 292 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:28.000 on saying that this is what they're doing. But they 293 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.720 actually picked a couple of villagers to serve them and 294 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.559 to help keep the villagers in line, one of those 295 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:40.480 being Jesus Robario. Okay, now, Jazus kind of figured out 296 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:44.879 that they this was all bullshit and he's like, listen, 297 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:47.960 I want in. It's pretty much what he wanted to, like, 298 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.000 he wanted to take advantage of his own village as well, like, hey, 299 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:53.799 I want part of this, because at this time it 300 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:57.840 was just enjoying a lot of sex, drinks and food 301 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.799 and everything. So that's that's where it went. But like 302 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.840 as I said, this, the promises of treasures and gold 303 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.919 that they weren't materializing. They weren't bringing anything, so the 304 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:15.840 villagers were becoming more skeptical by the day, and that 305 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:23.799 this next choice is where they changed everything. So they 306 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:28.080 the brothers realized that they needed to step this up. Okay. 307 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:32.480 So they ended up driving to Monterey, and they left 308 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.960 Jesus in charge to kind of like keep people still 309 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:38.320 in line, to let them know that, hey, we're coming back. 310 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:42.879 And the reason they did this is because they were 311 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:46.120 they promised the villagers that they were going to bring 312 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:50.399 back a goddess or a priestess, that they were going 313 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:56.000 to create this. They were just going to bring someone 314 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:59.519 else back who was who was to add to this charade? 315 00:16:59.519 --> 00:16:59.879 Okay. 316 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.960 So they drove to Monterey and that is where they 317 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:07.440 recruited Magdalena Solis and her brother and I'm going to 318 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:15.799 butcher this name because it is a difficult name, Elizar Als. Okay, 319 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.680 So that is the brother of Magdalena Solis. Now, it's 320 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:24.359 unknown if if Magdalena Solis and Eliasar and the two 321 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:27.359 brothers actually knew each other prior to this. They might 322 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:31.880 have there might have been a relationship prior to that beout. 323 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.920 But Magdalena was she was working as a prostitute in 324 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.599 Monterey and she's been doing this since the age of twelve, 325 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:43.680 and her pimp was her brother. Okay, that's nice, so 326 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:49.839 fucked right, Yes, yeah, I I I knew that was 327 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:50.319 going to come up. 328 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:57.359 He was pimp and his CIS's so messed yeah, yeah, 329 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:58.720 completely messed up. 330 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:04.240 Now, not only did she not only was she a prostitute, 331 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.200 though she was also had a side hustle as a 332 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:09.839 fortune teller and a medium. She would claim to be 333 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:16.680 like channeling spirits of oh that's exactly, that's exactly, you know. 334 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.240 But but she is in this kind of concept. So 335 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:23.799 she was said she would channel like these brujas okay, 336 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.920 and for those who know, those are witches. So that 337 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:31.359 was I believe that played a big part in in 338 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:35.880 this next the next level, the next step. So so 339 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:39.319 Magdalena and her brother and Hernandez brothers decided that Kate 340 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.319 like they propositioned her and said, we want you to 341 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:45.240 come back and we want you to portray you know, 342 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:49.759 this priestess or this or a god. Well they actually 343 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:53.559 said priestess to be given. Now during this time when 344 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:56.079 they're having this conversation and agreeing with this, one of 345 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.240 them finally realized that the Incoans weren't from Mexico. So 346 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:02.279 that's when they switched up. They decided to go with 347 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:07.599 Aztec gods. So at this time, you know, some had 348 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:10.039 said that Magdalene was going to pose as a famous 349 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:14.720 resurrected Mexican faith healer, but that kind of they decided 350 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:17.240 not to. So she was going to be a priestess 351 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:22.559 of the Aztec goddess qualitic you okay, and qualiticqu was 352 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:25.240 the fertility goddess. And I'm not doing that right too. 353 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:27.839 I had some issues with some of these names. But 354 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:32.240 qual lick you quoth lick you okay. So this was 355 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:36.720 the fertility goddess, which make sure you keep that in 356 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:40.079 your mind now. So the brothers returned back to the 357 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:44.079 village and they told that they didn't bring in Magdalena yet. 358 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:48.000 They told everyone that this goddess that they went to 359 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.240 get or this priestess, would arrive at night and they 360 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:53.920 but they had to perform this ritual to summon her. 361 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:57.680 So that evening they got the villagers to participate in 362 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:01.200 the brother's ritual where they used some fireworks and pyrotechnics 363 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:04.000 to and which amazing people because they've never seen this 364 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:07.079 kind of stuff, right, and this is all new to them. 365 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.720 So they're able to produce the thick cloud of smoke 366 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:14.079 and once the once the smoke cleared, there stood Magdalena 367 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:17.400 Solis and the village were just the villagers were just 368 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:21.880 amazed at this because this was you know, smoking mirrors 369 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:24.880 kind of bullshit kind of stuff, but for them this 370 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:29.400 was amazings. 371 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:31.000 Then they were just kind of making it up as 372 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:31.920 they went along. 373 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:37.720 Making everything exactly they Like when they got back, did 374 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:39.960 they like switch it up, like, oh, by the way, 375 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:42.920 just kidding, it's as techs, not in. 376 00:20:43.319 --> 00:20:45.440 Like you think right there, they'd be like, hold the 377 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:49.359 fuck up, Like, first off, who are you? Second off, 378 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:53.039 it went from inca to now it's as tech to 379 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:55.519 now it's this, and now it's that. And I'm wondering 380 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:58.680 if the brothers knew her because they were getting some 381 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:02.640 push on the other side of town and maybe they 382 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.839 got a reading or something, and maybe they got tight 383 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:08.960 with her brother and they were like, let's run game 384 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:13.400 on these people. Just seems like it'd be like, we're 385 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:15.519 gonna go to this town and we just so happened 386 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:20.640 to know a fortune telling prostitute with pool brother that 387 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:24.279 could come back and run this game with us. Like 388 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:27.200 that's so specific, you know, it's almost like they had. 389 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:28.559 Like that is a good point. 390 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:32.839 In fact, it's a great point, and none of that 391 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:36.240 can be proven or disproven. Another can be claimed or 392 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:40.039 disclaimed that is not in there. But there was assumptions. 393 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:43.240 The only assumptions was they might have known each other 394 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:45.079 prior to this. But I think you're bringing up a 395 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:48.920 great point, you know, it's kind of it's interesting. It 396 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:49.359 is very. 397 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:51.119 Interesting to Julia's point. 398 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:54.079 When I was listening to it at the beginning and 399 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:57.440 now listening to you, Julia, I wonder if they were 400 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.200 about to get caught rod and dirty, and so that 401 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:06.240 their whole game in that oh oops, we invoke the 402 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:09.319 ink in people and they know that it's not and 403 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:14.240 so get someone who could pose as an Aztec priestess 404 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:17.000 and change it up, do you know what I mean? 405 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:21.480 And that probably the charade was falling apart, and so 406 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:24.200 therefore they had to go get reconnaissance. And then hence, 407 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:27.079 you know, they already knew who that person was, they 408 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:29.079 knew that they could scam them, they knew that they 409 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:30.119 could be in on the take. 410 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.160 Yeah, because it's like this chick already likes to make 411 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.240 money dirty. Yeah, you're not going to take a lot 412 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:40.039 of convincing to be like, hey, you come back with us, 413 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:43.200 right right. It's like, hey, you don't even have to 414 00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:45.640 you don't even have to get as dirty. You know 415 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.039 what I'm saying, We'll pay you for doing less if 416 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:51.000 you come with us. So I think she found an 417 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:51.920 easy way out. 418 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:53.000 I would do it too. 419 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:55.839 I'd be evoking all kinds of shit, like get me 420 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:58.680 out of here. My brother is literally pimping me. But 421 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:03.400 nobody knows that. Yet, nobody knows anything about her. So 422 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:09.400 there's they're still able to pull off this this charade right. 423 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:13.960 Right, acquisition in the matter, right, Like, aren't the locals 424 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:15.640 they're Catholics, they're letting all this problem. 425 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:19.119 No, No, there's no church, know nothing there like that. 426 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:22.079 They were completely isolated. So there's no church in electricity, 427 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:27.039 no school as well. So you've got the perfect mark there. 428 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:28.680 They're just just right for picking. 429 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:30.920 Oh yeah, I just assumed the Catholics did a number 430 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:32.279 of Mexico hundreds of years ago. 431 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:35.400 They just got across the whole landscape. 432 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:38.319 Yah, they forgot this little po dunk town. They just 433 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:41.799 skipped right over it now. 434 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:45.079 So and also to boot to this, so the the 435 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:49.200 villagers also believed that. And I don't know who stated this, 436 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:52.160 but if we're talking about like Catholics, so the villagers 437 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:56.000 also believe that Lasar was the reincarnation of Saint Francis. 438 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:59.759 So they just ran with that. So there, so I know, 439 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:02.119 we're saying there's no church and there's no Catholic religion, 440 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:04.799 but they had an idea of who Saint Francis was. 441 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:06.759 So that's interesting. 442 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:08.839 Yeah, when it was one time, if you didn't know 443 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.480 who Sint Francis was, they they hung upside down by 444 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:13.039 the steak or something lit you on fire, you know 445 00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:13.400 what I mean? 446 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:14.880 Oh my god. 447 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.279 All of all of the missionary priests that came from 448 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.640 Spain in the fifteen hundreds were all of the Saint 449 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:22.960 Franciscan Order. 450 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.400 None of them came their order. 451 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:28.200 It was predominant because it was in southern Spain where 452 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:32.759 ernand Cortes predominated in that one specific area of Mexico, 453 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:37.279 and so it was all majority of that Franciscan order. 454 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.559 The other orders went elsewhere in North Mexico, South America 455 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:43.440 and all that other stuff, but predominantly the area was 456 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:44.480 a Franciscan order. 457 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:49.000 Would you think that las Laisar he knew that shit 458 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:51.680 before he got to the little town. Maybe he had 459 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:55.079 been exposed, he was he wanted to be in on 460 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.119 the the scam too, like, oh, my sister's not going 461 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.839 to get all the glory, Like I gotta be somebody. 462 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.119 All right, you're saying Francis, asshole, get up. 463 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:08.240 Maybe he had a slight resemblance to Saint Francis and 464 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:11.039 maybe and it could have went that way. 465 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:14.000 Yeah, Oh we talked to animals. That's his thing. 466 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:20.799 No, no, no, Saint Francis is that he could speak to him. Sorry, no, no. 467 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:28.839 Well, which is crazy that the he talked to animals, 468 00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:33.960 because what they end up doing right away is so 469 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:38.839 un Saint Francis Like yeah, because like the villagers then 470 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.400 just accepted them, like yes, this is what we've been 471 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.559 waiting for. And that's when it all really started. So 472 00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.960 Magdalena started taking control. At this point, she started introducing 473 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:55.480 like these crazy things such as animal sacrifices and then 474 00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:01.079 big sexual acts like orgies and whatnot. And with the sacrifices, 475 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:04.799 with the animal sacrifices, they started drinking the blood of 476 00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:08.720 these animals and mixing it with payote and marijuana as well. 477 00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:12.759 So this is where things started getting crazy, you know, 478 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:17.319 just drug up everybody. Because of course, since the the 479 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.240 cartel was in that area, they're not anymore. There's still 480 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.039 marijuana plants growing around, so that was a common thing 481 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.200 in Piote of course, is quite common in that area 482 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:29.759 as well. Now now, now the big problem that is 483 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:35.200 is this is that over time Magdalena started to really 484 00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:39.440 believe in her herself, like in her own divinity, and 485 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.799 and that's when she started like assuming leadership of the cult. Okay, 486 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:46.680 So she started to believe in the the ruse itself 487 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:50.559 right along with the villagers almost, he could say. So 488 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:55.799 that's where things started escalating even more. And in this 489 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.279 in this town also, there was this one beautiful girl 490 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.799 named Selene. Selena was also slightly in on it, okay, 491 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:08.400 so she was one of those appointed what is it 492 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.000 like kind of like a priestess of the group. So 493 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:16.000 she was appointed of that one as well. So what 494 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:22.079 happened there was Magdalena ended up developing feelings like a 495 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.559 bit of lust for Selena as well. So that will 496 00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:28.279 play part closer to the end. 497 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:35.880 Okay, Oh shits yeah, the possible triangle. 498 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:38.920 Yeah yeah, now. 499 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.559 I have I have just the quickst question ever, was 500 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:47.960 was she did she believe in it? Because like she 501 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.920 was like doing this which wichy stuff before they even 502 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.839 got her inducted into this cult, like she was summoning stuff, 503 00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:58.720 and like maybe she really did think. 504 00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:00.960 Like that's that. That's that's what I think. I think 505 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.759 it ties in with it because she was already kind 506 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.799 of getting into this mindset of like I am a 507 00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:11.240 fortune teller and I am channeling these bruhas, and maybe 508 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:13.559 there was part of her that actually believed that. 509 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.839 Okay, right, yeah, but especially I was like drinking the 510 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.440 blood and doing the like. You know, even if it 511 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.599 was me, if I was, I knew it was all 512 00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.079 kind of like a setup and it was I wouldn't 513 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.240 be drinking it. No, thanks, you know, it's like how 514 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:31.640 far do you get into it? 515 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:35.039 Well, and I will say this, like in the Hispanic culture, 516 00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:38.319 at least in the Mexican culture, we do predominantly cook 517 00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:42.519 our food and blood, so like like and stuff like that. 518 00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:44.920 I don't know if you ever had that in Manko 519 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.039 it's geeseol I have with Yeah, you cook it in 520 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.640 blood and stuff like that. It's it's it's one of 521 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.640 those things that the people they're called compass, they would 522 00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.839 live off the land and you ate everything everything from 523 00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.559 intestine to whatever. You never let anything go to waste. 524 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:05.640 And so it's predominantly that that was accepted everything from brain, tongue, cheek, everything, 525 00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:08.839 and so that's very common in Hispanic culture. 526 00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.000 That's not I think there's. 527 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:17.480 Throats and yeah, just like like doing like again, I 528 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:18.480 don't know, but. 529 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:21.240 Well in this one they would they actually had like 530 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:29.119 a ceremonial chalice that they were they were using. Yes, yes, sorry, 531 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.400 but yeah, it's a it's so it's getting there where 532 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:39.200 she she's taking more control of this. So and this 533 00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.720 is where again that that that that one was a 534 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:43.759 step up. Now this is coming to another step up. 535 00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:44.559 Sorry you had a question. 536 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:46.960 No, I was just gonna be before we move past 537 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.440 the animal sacrifice, not that I want to dwell on it, but. 538 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.599 What was just were there any dogs involved here? Maybe 539 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:53.480 German shepherds. 540 00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:58.559 No, from what I heard, it was chickens. It wasn't 541 00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.319 anything too crazy, so it was chickens. Could have been 542 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:05.759 out of their animals, of course, of course I've heard chickens. 543 00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.480 That is all that I've read that I've done research on, 544 00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:09.640 and that's all I've gotten out. 545 00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.400 I mean, shepherds do come up a lot, though I noticed. 546 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.200 There was a lot of German shepherds getting off to 547 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.200 Mexico around those times. Well, you know, again like at 548 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.480 least a point element south. 549 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:18.119 Of there in the Yucatan. 550 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.359 But nonetheless, well, I just even like with uh that 551 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.559 that's associated with Go Go Beach. You know, Joe Biden's 552 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.519 dog that kept biting people the whole time. He was 553 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.960 a German shepherd. You do hear about German shepherd dog. 554 00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:33.160 They would have had to have been brought in because 555 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:34.839 German shepherds are not indigenous to. 556 00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:39.319 Yeah, exactly, especially that specific area too. I would not 557 00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.480 assume that they'd have any German shepherds. Maybe some local uh, 558 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.319 maybe some local dogs that are just. 559 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.240 Yeah, I think dogs dogs. 560 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:51.359 Acervice in general is interesting because it does seem to 561 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.119 you know, circle around colts on numerous gunents. 562 00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:55.960 Mmm mm hmmmm hmm. 563 00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:58.240 I agree with you on that one. They I think 564 00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.359 there was some dogs in the a dog Focuns Sonzo stuff. 565 00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.279 I'm pretty sure there was some dogs with. 566 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:09.079 That madam the Madam Morris one. Yeah, some dogs up there. 567 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:13.759 Yeah. Anyways, ry no, no worries, no worries. I like 568 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:18.559 conversation that. I enjoy that. So at this point again, 569 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.319 they started hitting a point where some of the villagers 570 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.880 a couple of the villagers were starting to like a 571 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:26.920 little bit of dissent was happening, you know, except of 572 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.279 the villagers were just like, I'm not buying this. I'm 573 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.519 not into this, you know, big sex, orgies and this 574 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:37.240 blood drinking and everything. So so they're like they're questioning 575 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.839 everything that was being done. And the two brothers that 576 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.960 started it all in the beginning, you know, the Hernandez brothers, 577 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.440 they were talking about like yeah, time to go, okay, 578 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.519 So they were ready to cut it and leave. But 579 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.799 Magdalena took it upon herself to solve the problem. And 580 00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.920 this is where she takes complete control. So she had 581 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.319 another one of her rituals with biota and orgies and 582 00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:08.319 everything and animal sacrificing and blood drinking. But the during 583 00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:12.880 this ritual, though, she said that the gods had told 584 00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.200 her that there are doubters in the village, and so 585 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:19.119 she pointed out one of them and then they all 586 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.279 proceeded to murder him in front of everyone. Okay, so 587 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:23.880 in front of the villagers. So it was then they 588 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:26.240 just they bludgeoned him. It was usually with rocks, like 589 00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:30.400 bludgeoning him with rocks now, and it said that at 590 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.640 this point, that's when she used the cup to that 591 00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.319 they were using to drink the chicken blood to. She 592 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:43.559 started drinking blood from this dead guy. Okay, fuck way 593 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:44.039 a notch. 594 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.400 Yes she did. Yes, That's why I think she she 595 00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.359 started believing in this shit, because it's like you just 596 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:55.960 took it to a homicidal place. And that's why I think, 597 00:32:56.039 --> 00:33:00.359 like this is me being my spiritual self and not 598 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.519 my conspiracy self. When you do these things, I think 599 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.440 you can invite like dark spirits to come into you. 600 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.119 And I think that she probably was getting into some stuff. 601 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.480 She had no idea how powerful it actually was. Maybe 602 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:17.960 like this story is like, oh, you know, she she 603 00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:20.640 got so into it. She's believing in the liars and stuff. 604 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.319 Maybe she got so into it she actually started conjuring 605 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:26.200 some shit. I mean, how many dead chickens do you 606 00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.720 need to drink the blood and like do all this 607 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.799 before you actually start opening the doors to some some 608 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:33.039 like dark stuff. 609 00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:36.160 Well it's like blood, sex, magic, right right, yeah. 610 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:40.200 And the orgies and the weird. Like you gotta think 611 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:43.200 like this this started as a pretend thing, and now 612 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.559 it's like a real thing, Like they've brought it into 613 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:47.359 the physical plane. 614 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.279 Like exactly tough, and now like think of it, like, 615 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.960 what a way to control the village. Now, you know, 616 00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.720 you just murdered one of them for being a disbeliever, 617 00:33:57.839 --> 00:33:59.799 and in front of everyone. 618 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:02.279 I was going to ask, do you think he was 619 00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.119 really a disbeliever? Do you think they were like, you know, 620 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.319 we're just going to kill one person to prove a point, 621 00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:07.119 to scare everybody. 622 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.159 No, it was definitely disbelieved. There was two men that 623 00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:14.960 were being these that were disbelieved. Now it's uncertain that 624 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.679 they killed one or two. I'm leaning more to that 625 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.639 it was only one. But you know, all you have 626 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:24.079 to do is killed one and the other one is 627 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:26.079 going to fall right in line. You're not going to 628 00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:31.639 get any dissent at that point. Yeah, yeah, that is 629 00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.320 great control, right, and so, and at this point she 630 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:40.000 had taken over the cult completely and the brothers happily 631 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:44.079 actually just stepped aside because they were along for the ride. Now, 632 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.719 they weren't making any of those difficult decisions or doing 633 00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:49.320 any of that stuff. Now they're just kind of like, 634 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:53.639 all right, just let it happen. And but nonetheless, there's 635 00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:56.519 still part of it all and it was specifically at 636 00:34:56.519 --> 00:35:00.280 this point that that was stated that she actually believe 637 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.960 that she was the reincarnation of the god Qualita qu. 638 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.119 One thing I do. Go ahead, go ahead, really. 639 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.719 Well, this is this is a real goddess though, this 640 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:10.559 is a real. 641 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:12.039 Yeah, I believe. 642 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:18.119 Yeah, she she's I think the goddess which in Mashika 643 00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:22.119 or sex lor they believe snakes are life because you know, 644 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.440 when you open someone up, all you see is snakes 645 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:26.719 like intestines and blood vessels and whatever, and they believe 646 00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:28.159 that there is a bilgal cord. 647 00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:31.679 That connects all of the heavens. So I believe was 648 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:33.440 the goddess of the snakes. 649 00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:35.480 And if I'm not mistaken, I think she was like 650 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.320 their mantusa or something like that, because what have you. 651 00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:41.360 She likes of the thing that we did. 652 00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:46.920 Sorry, she's like the feminized version of like quetsoquadal, Yes, 653 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:49.960 because the name is so similar, and that's like a 654 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:55.320 masculine deity. But so okay, all right, So think about 655 00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.079 all this sacrifices and ship she's doing in the name 656 00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.199 of a very real deity. 657 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:03.559 Like of course, and she was so Yeah, she was 658 00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:08.719 considered the mother of the gods, the goddess of earth, nature, fertility, life, 659 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:13.360 and death. So she was a the main goddess if 660 00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:14.920 you want to go, if you want to go there, 661 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:17.519 So she was the goddess. So if you're gonna if 662 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.880 you're going to be a goddess and portray a goddess, 663 00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:20.960 that's the one to portray. 664 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:21.880 M h. 665 00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.159 Yeah, I wonder who taught her how to mix the 666 00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:27.719 you know, to mix the paodian with the blood, you know, 667 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.760 to give the appearance of some sort of mystical power. 668 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.800 I'm sure over her followers you know that maybe that's 669 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:36.400 an enterprising con man tactic. 670 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:37.760 I don't know. It just seems like someone may have 671 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:38.199 taught her that. 672 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:43.000 Have you guys read The Cosmic Serpent? Anybody know? 673 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.079 But it's in my queue, dude, I'm. 674 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.000 Reading it right now. And JJ just mentioned something that's 675 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:53.599 totally in the Cosmic Serpent about how how did ancients 676 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:59.480 understand how to create ayahuasca? Out of eighty thousand Amazonian plants, 677 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:03.760 they the two plants like the hallucinogenic and the one 678 00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.400 that shuts off the receptors in your stomach so you 679 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.079 didn't pew get back up like they chose. Out of 680 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.800 eighty thousand plants they chose. It's just like divinely inspired, 681 00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:13.400 they say. 682 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:13.639 So. 683 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:15.480 So I spoke to. 684 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.639 In Peru when I went down there, and they said, 685 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.920 God is very kind to the to the innocent mind 686 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:26.400 that seeks his knowledge. And he says that they that 687 00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.440 they walk with the spirits, at least the shamans do, 688 00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.519 and that the spirits reveal to them what it is, 689 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:35.280 but that they go into the forest and that they 690 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.400 fast or whatever, and that the that the plants come 691 00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:42.719 alive and tell them how to you. Again, I'm just 692 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.119 you know, repeating what I heard and. 693 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.360 So, but that's but that's such a good point because 694 00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:50.239 it's like, how far into this did she really get? 695 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.159 Because I think like there's a level of psychopathy, but 696 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.320 they at the same time like she was actually doing 697 00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:00.360 like real stuff to bring about like real results well 698 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.039 seen in the blood and doing all the in the 699 00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:04.760 like dude. 700 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.039 For real, she could have opened if she was doing taro, 701 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.400 then I would think that she was very much into 702 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.639 that whole side of the arts. 703 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.400 Yeah, she's already into the dabbling in what she's in 704 00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:18.840 the occult, right, she would be. 705 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:21.880 Very much into the whole what do you call. 706 00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:28.199 Them whatever and all about that, reading the iris, reading 707 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.880 the cards, reading your tea leaves a whole bit. 708 00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.079 Yeah, So is this like a normal Tarot system she 709 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.280 was subscribing to, or is this like a Mexican only 710 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:41.079 Tarot system where we talking her. 711 00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:43.880 That I don't know, I would assume would be just 712 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.559 the regular taro. I don't know if there was any 713 00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.360 other ones in around. 714 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:54.039 The one thing I do want to, I guess ask 715 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:57.800 or bring up again now this whole because I am 716 00:38:57.800 --> 00:38:59.760 trying to like, I'm just wondering, like, what's the even 717 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.199 the best benefit of this. So now the whole reason 718 00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:05.440 that this even started, and and now they still like 719 00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.000 kind of just going along with like a free ride 720 00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:11.119 and tons of sex, like like because that seems to 721 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.679 be the only reason why they're still continuing. This is 722 00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:15.639 from the beginning, the idea of like, oh, we could 723 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.039 just get laid and live here for free. 724 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.440 Yeah, get get laid, live here for free, have all 725 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.559 the food you want, and just be yeah, god right. 726 00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:27.039 I don't know, it's just like that's it. 727 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:29.159 That's how it all started. 728 00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.679 Give it. Honestly, Nick, It's like they wanted their own 729 00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.920 like kingdom. They wanted to be like kings of their kingdom. 730 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.840 And like the way you control people is fear religion. 731 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.079 You know that that the fear of death will get 732 00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.519 That would get me every time. It'd be like, oh dude, 733 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.199 they're literally killing people now. I you know, at what 734 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.360 point do you just kind of be like, this is 735 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.920 really real, we should really listen to these people. And 736 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.159 but it is. It is surprising to me that it 737 00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.599 got so out of hand that the guys who started 738 00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.079 the whole thing, we're just like, we're going to take 739 00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:03.880 a back seat to this. Uh, yes, we fucked up 740 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.199 and have fun. We're out of here. 741 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.199 I think ry you doing something on your show, and 742 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.400 I think it fits perfectly to this question. 743 00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:16.039 Is that here's this girl who was placed. 744 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.960 Into prostitution and she had absolutely no control in her life, 745 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:24.320 and now here she stepped into a stage where everyone 746 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.719 listened to everything she said and she now could have control. 747 00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:34.000 And so that I'm assuming is the ultimate high anyone 748 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.239 can can want or perceive. 749 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.199 Sure, I actually agree. Yeah. So anybody who's in a 750 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:43.239 position where you don't have any control and then you're 751 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:50.280 almost gifted these powers, people get like drunk on that. 752 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.639 They get drunk on power. And and I'm if you're 753 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.440 into conspiracies and I'm sure you know when the COVID 754 00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:59.800 was around that you've seen all these people who never 755 00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:03.280 had had power before who are now gifted with all 756 00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:06.320 this power. You know, maybe your door checkers at Walmart 757 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.360 and ship like that, or your Starbucks baristas, and they're 758 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:14.280 now drunk on power and telling you how to you know, 759 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.519 you can't come in here, you can't do this, you know, 760 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.760 And yeah, that's an easy example of it. 761 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.599 You had dudes stocking shelves in the supermarket wearing an 762 00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:25.639 essential Worker shirt that thought they were. 763 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:31.800 All the weird nerds that like nobody gave a ship about. 764 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:38.000 It became like your masters, yes, so weird shit, like 765 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.920 you fucking work at Ross. Dude, Like, don't tell me 766 00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.679 I can't approach the cash register unless I'm like, are 767 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:47.039 you's Ross? 768 00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:49.519 Like you work at a store that's got arrows on 769 00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:50.760 the floor and you're following it? 770 00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:52.400 What is that? 771 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.280 That's the first place I went into when they started 772 00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:57.920 that ship. I was like, this is fucking Ross, Like 773 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.440 you guys sell birdhouses and where why are you telling 774 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:03.480 me how to live my life? And it's just like 775 00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.559 they gave power to like the useless nerds of society. 776 00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:11.719 I'm telling you it just it's crazy. But that is 777 00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:13.679 a good example of what's going on. It's just like 778 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:18.159 a couple of weird nerds who got a prostitute with 779 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:23.159 some mental instability in her pimp brother, and they started 780 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:26.639 a cult and then they actually opened up the door 781 00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:28.320 to some really real shit in. 782 00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:33.480 My opinion, Oh completely, completely, Yeah. The example I gave 783 00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:35.960 you was just a just a tip of the iceberg 784 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:42.039 in comparison to this, you know, and it was and yeah, yeah, 785 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:46.599 it's crazy, it is crazy. So I can continue if 786 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.000 you guys want, Yeah, yeah, all right, all right. So 787 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.400 now so now under her command like this cult, now 788 00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:58.440 any of the members, which is the villagers, anybody who 789 00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.920 expressed like they want to leave or you know, they 790 00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:08.760 want out, were publicly executed, okay, so that yes, yeah, 791 00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.920 and and remember there's not that many people living here, 792 00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:16.000 right so you know you're but I guess you know, 793 00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:18.320 you kill a couple and you have that you have 794 00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.519 that uh, that control, and and that that's when also 795 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.559 Magdalena started to introduce like these blood rituals, which were 796 00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:28.800 inspired by the Aztecs, you know, where they when there 797 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.480 was any dissenting members, they would they were tortured, mutilated, 798 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.719 and then left to bleed to death. And when they 799 00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:38.199 did that, they would collect their their blood and mix 800 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:43.400 it with ma marijuana or piote, and that of course 801 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.320 was then consumed by Magdalena and other cult members. Now, 802 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:51.880 she actually believed that this, and and the cult members 803 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:56.960 actually believed that this granted them supernatural powers. And she, 804 00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:01.400 Magdalena herself believed that it's sustained her it even like 805 00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.880 and this this process even escalated more when they started 806 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.159 to rip the hearts out of their victims and eat 807 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:09.840 them as well. 808 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:16.159 So straight up tech. Yeah, that is like straight up 809 00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.880 as tech, like old school as tech. Ship. Where'd she 810 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.159 get that idea from? 811 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.760 You know exactly? And you wonder was she does she 812 00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:28.039 actually know this? Or was this being channeled through her 813 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:33.119 by some demon? But I'm with the ladder of those 814 00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:38.079 two things obviously, But I believe that there is some 815 00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.880 crossover in that in that area that you know, we 816 00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:44.199 start going a little bit supernatural. But and she believed, 817 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.800 like the people believe that this granted them supernatural powers, 818 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:54.199 which is just crazy now, but who's to say that 819 00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.840 it didn't. You know, Like I'm almost thinking I'm going 820 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.360 to make a bulletproof. That's sure. 821 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:02.840 You know what the problem is, you know, like you 822 00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.599 know how I mean this is just because I know 823 00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.400 of things that I've seen in movies and who knows, 824 00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:10.159 like if you already know the timing and stuff and 825 00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:12.719 you just want people to be like dumb. Now I'm 826 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.239 not saying that the lady did this, but like I 827 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.000 do wonder if there's like things that you could even 828 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:19.719 do to really make these people believe like this needs 829 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.039 to be dumb, because like from what I'm getting at 830 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.400 is in a movie I saw, Fuck, I think Bill 831 00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:27.559 Gibson did it to Apocalypto. 832 00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:32.599 Those people were killing people until the eclipse ended our team. Now, 833 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:34.639 if you know one's coming, you could play off that, 834 00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.239 Like did she use things that she could even even 835 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.480 have played off to even make these people think that 836 00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:40.880 she was legit. 837 00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.800 That much more? And I mean you really haven't met 838 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.079 or anything, but who knows, you know, for but yeah, 839 00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:53.480 who truly knows. Not many people know those specifics of it. 840 00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:56.519 But I guess if we go back, you know, if 841 00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.800 you go back to the time period and you look 842 00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.679 at it, there probably was some maybe there was some 843 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:06.519 solar solar activity going on or celestial activity that maybe 844 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.199 they could have played with as well. 845 00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:11.280 Does pioti get you fucked up? 846 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:12.599 Oh yeah? 847 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:18.280 Really so it's like tripping balls? Or is it like 848 00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:20.079 a mile more than acid? 849 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:21.079 More than ad? 850 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.679 But for me though, I I only did it, I 851 00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.719 mean once, maybe twice. I left my ass off though 852 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:32.239 more than I did on acid or I mean, I 853 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:32.639 told you. 854 00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:34.880 It's a good time. 855 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:40.920 Do you feel like, oh yeah, piote is completely spiritual. 856 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:46.480 That is, that is definitely a spiritual if you mixed 857 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:49.480 it with like a dead guy's blood and smoked it, 858 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.360 like maybe they've Maybe that's why I'm saying, like maybe 859 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.440 they did see stuff, and. 860 00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:58.519 Like you know, absolutely I was looking at it, and 861 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.280 I was looking at see if iron enhances the effects 862 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:08.400 of mescaline. You know, that's a sense of psychoactive and 863 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.280 I'm I'm pretty sure if I deep dive into it'll 864 00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.920 find something, But I don't know. I mean, because mescaline 865 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.800 kind of acts on your norropenephrine epinephrine mechanism sympathetic and 866 00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.840 you know the heart rate will change and so your 867 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:23.840 increasing temperatures. 868 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:25.760 Everything's like heightened, kind of like. 869 00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:28.599 With LSD, everything's heightened, right, you become a cat you 870 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:30.440 feel everything, you hear everything. 871 00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.199 So I'm well, how about this one, Lisa, how about 872 00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.000 this one? You know how they're always talking about like 873 00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.840 adrenalized blood, you know, can get you high on its own. 874 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.920 What if? What if they're they're murdering these people, they're 875 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:47.639 scaring the shit out of them. They get them nice 876 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:52.119 and adrenalized. They siphon off that adrenalized blood. Didn't they 877 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.400 mix it with the peyote? They probably got the spirits 878 00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:57.719 coming out their asshole. Dude. That's why I think that 879 00:47:57.880 --> 00:47:59.960 they were really dabbling into some stuff. 880 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.000 The chugging this this uh you know, this psychoedemic blood, 881 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.280 and you know they're gonna they can convince some of whatever. 882 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:11.119 It just sounds like a massive Mexican MK culture type experiment. 883 00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.280 That I'm right, That's what I was thinking. 884 00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:15.360 It was the proto, the proto. 885 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:16.800 Yeah, she was. 886 00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.039 She was like, Yo, Charles Manson ain't got ship on me. 887 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.480 You didn't have the good man. He was just dealing 888 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:22.639 with that. 889 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.440 Cias like, I'm slicing next for this ship. 890 00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.079 He has the generic ship. These guys are making. This 891 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:34.760 is some homemade fucking concoctions and stuff. I'm I'm so intrigued. 892 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.800 Right now, I cannot wait to hear how this ends. 893 00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:42.440 Okay, sorry, sorry, no, no worries, no worries. Unfortunately it 894 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:48.119 is coming to an end now. So this, this whole charade, 895 00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.400 I don't even call her charade anymore because it's it's 896 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:55.519 past that, right. This is like this, this nightmare. It 897 00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.400 went on for about six weeks and now the the 898 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.719 guestimate of how many people were killed were anywhere between 899 00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:07.320 six to fourteen. I know that's like a large you know, 900 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:08.960 it could be like six to eight or which would 901 00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:11.400 be small, but they say anywhere between six to fourteen. 902 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.760 And it's really unknown because you know, there wasn't and 903 00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:16.719 you'll find out later. Is that a lot of people 904 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:21.920 weren't talking about this. So now in May of nineteen 905 00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.880 sixty three, this is we're gonna go back to Selena. 906 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.840 Now if remember Selena, Selena was the love interest of Magdalena. Okay, 907 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:34.599 and so Selena ended up having a little fora with 908 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.960 Santos Sernandez that was one of the original brothers, and 909 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:41.679 Magdalena had kind of caught them and she was not 910 00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:47.280 happy about this. So now Magdalena kind of made this 911 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:51.119 ultimatum and she said that for the riches to be presented, 912 00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:53.960 like if we are getting these riches, if we're giving 913 00:49:54.000 --> 00:50:00.960 you these wrenches riches, a true believer needed to be sacrificed, okay, 914 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.559 and and this true believer, of course, would be rewarded 915 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:08.079 in the heavens. That was That was the claim by Magdalena. 916 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:12.559 So Magdalena got Selena onto the altar and bashed her 917 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:13.519 head in with a rock. 918 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:23.119 A woman scorned right, Hispanic woman. Oh, I'm sure, and. 919 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:25.440 Like I said, this is where it kind of all 920 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.679 humul like comes to the climax of it all. So 921 00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:31.840 what now while this is happening, there was a fourteen 922 00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.079 year old boy named Sebastian Guerrero and he was out 923 00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.440 exploring near the village of Bwene. Somebody was saying he's 924 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:42.079 exploring or he was just walking to another nearby village, 925 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.679 and that nearby village was called what was it called? Again, 926 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:50.719 I have this I should know this Uhila La Gran Okay. 927 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:52.880 So that's where he was, That's where he was going 928 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:56.360 to be headed to. Now he was near the feet 929 00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:59.920 of the eastern Sierra Madre mountains and this area has 930 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:01.920 tons of caves, and that's where they were doing a 931 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:06.239 lot of these things. They weren't doing these these sacrifices 932 00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:07.880 right in the middle of the village. They were taking 933 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:12.360 these to the caves. And now, yeah, so and these caves, 934 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:15.320 I think I might have or I might have glazed over. 935 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:18.079 This is that lot. There was lots of legends about 936 00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:22.519 these caves having hidden treasure. So this was something else 937 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.840 that maybe these guys knew about or played on as well. 938 00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:30.840 And so it was dark, and Guerrero said he saw 939 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.159 something that intrigued him. He saw these like these flickering 940 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.320 lights coming from a nearby cave. And so as he 941 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.159 got closer to this cave, he started hearing sounds. He 942 00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:44.199 started hearing humans, and not sounds of talking or singing, 943 00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.079 but he just heard some noises. He couldn't make it 944 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.000 out really, And he also caught a whiff of like incense, 945 00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:57.360 probably copal, which was used by the astat too. And now, 946 00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:02.119 with this curiosity growing, he he, you know, pushed past 947 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:05.000 pushed past his fear, and he approached the mouth of 948 00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.400 the cave and he he stayed really quiet and out 949 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.440 of sight, and he cautiously peered inside the cave, and 950 00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.679 what he saw shocked him. Then inside the cave, he 951 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:18.639 saw a ton of these villagers naked, all having sex 952 00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:23.119 while others were passing around like this ceremonial chalice, like 953 00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.760 this chalice, and they're drinking this dark fluid. And he says, 954 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:30.159 at the far end of the cave, upon an altar, 955 00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:33.159 that's where he saw where the dark fluid was coming from. 956 00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:35.559 It was a human that had been hacked to pieces, 957 00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:39.119 so most likely Selena. And there was the final drops 958 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.599 of the blood that were coming from her were being collected. 959 00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:47.159 Now standing above everyone on a rock inside this cave 960 00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:51.079 was Magdalena Solis and she was holding the heart of 961 00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:58.239 the victim of Selena. So that is there is this 962 00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:03.639 is it? Yeah? So Grero took off running, you know, 963 00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:05.360 he snuck out of there, made sure no one could 964 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.320 hear him. So he took off running, and he ran 965 00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:12.199 the fifteen miles to the town of Bi La Grande, Okay. 966 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.480 And that's where the closest police station was. And so 967 00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:21.480 when he got there, he tried explaining to the to 968 00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:28.320 the police what he saw, and he wasn't doing a 969 00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.519 very good job of it. He was saying, the villagers 970 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:35.000 were drinking blood like vampires. And you know, if you 971 00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:38.679 heard this from this kid, you know, like this fourteen 972 00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:41.960 year old boy, You're like, uh, whatever, you know, And 973 00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.079 that's what the police did. They actually laughed at him. 974 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.679 They thought, they kind of said that his imagination was 975 00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.119 getting the best of him. They're like no, no, So 976 00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:53.360 they didn't believe him, but he wouldn't stop. So he 977 00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:57.639 just kept on insisting that something horrific was going on 978 00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:02.400 in these caves. So finally the next day, finally the 979 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:08.079 one inspector, Luis Martinez, he said, okay, okay, I'll go 980 00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:14.039 with you to check it out, okay, And that was 981 00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.760 the last that anybody had seen or heard from them 982 00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.079 ever again of. 983 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:21.760 The police officer or the police. 984 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:25.239 Of the police officer and the boy, they disappeared because 985 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.519 the boy had to go back to show him this. 986 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.360 So the boy, you know, like, how brave was this 987 00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.119 kid to go back and this police officer went with them, 988 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.800 so neither would be seen alive again. 989 00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:36.599 That was it. 990 00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:38.679 That was the last they saw, damn. 991 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.880 So they got a blood ritual on them too, yes, yes, 992 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.280 And so the police went to go look for this 993 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.159 other guy, right, and they found okay, yeah. 994 00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:53.719 So following that then the police indvi La Grand they 995 00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:57.079 they realized that their inspector is not coming back, so 996 00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:01.159 they knew something was going on. They reached out and 997 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:05.920 contacted Alberto Gomez. He was a police inspector in Monterrey, 998 00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:13.760 and with his help, they organized a police and military operation. Okay, 999 00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.599 because like they brought in a helicopter and everything, and 1000 00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:20.679 they brought in like a couple of battalions of military men. 1001 00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:22.760 They knew something was going on. Then, you know, they 1002 00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:26.480 actually then believed that this boy was telling them some truth. 1003 00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:30.840 So what happened then, now this is like the ultimate 1004 00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:34.880 ultimate showdown. So the it led to a shootout, you know, 1005 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:39.199 where the one brother, Santo Ernandez was shot and killed. 1006 00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:41.119 He was they were doing the shootout and he was 1007 00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:44.599 trying to run away. They killed him, and so guy 1008 00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.599 at Dano, which is the other brother, and Jesus Roberto, 1009 00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:51.840 which was the one villager who knew everything was he 1010 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:55.119 knew what was going on. They they they ran off 1011 00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.760 and they hit and they got away. But and what 1012 00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.719 their plan was to wait till this all blew over. 1013 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:03.440 We're gonna go hide in this case and wait for 1014 00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:07.039 it ultimolo over and then they could you know, come 1015 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:10.519 back and regain control of this town again after the 1016 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:15.000 military and the police left. But that's where greed takes control. 1017 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:19.880 But Jesus took it upon himself to well, I can 1018 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.920 now be in controlled. So he actually killed Guya Dano, 1019 00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:27.719 So he used a rock and murdered him. So that 1020 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.400 was you know, like this has just gone absolute off 1021 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:37.320 the rails. Now. So the police and the military they 1022 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:41.719 find Magdalena and her brother and they are high as 1023 00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:45.000 a kite off their rockers in a house. Okay, so 1024 00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:49.199 they arrest them and they also discover Jesus as well, 1025 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.360 and so they arrest him as well. Now all the 1026 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:57.239 maining villagers were arrested. A few were killed in the 1027 00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:01.719 shootout though, so that is what happened. They arrested every 1028 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:06.280 single person of this town. Every single person was arrested, 1029 00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:11.679 which is crazy, you know, they took everybody away. Yeah, 1030 00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.199 so that's where we say that at this point that 1031 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:18.360 is kind of like, oh, they didn't get out. 1032 00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:21.440 On like good behavior or anything, did they No? 1033 00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:29.719 And unfortunately, so unfortunately the trail runs cold as to 1034 00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:33.079 what exactly happened to Magdalena, Like I can tell you 1035 00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:36.400 what happened in courts and that. So, so what happened 1036 00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:42.719 is the so they they took them to court and 1037 00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:49.840 Magdalena was sentenced to fit. Magdalena and alas are alis 1038 00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:53.960 Are were convicted of two murders and sentenced to fifty 1039 00:57:54.039 --> 00:58:01.000 years in prison. Now, the villagers wouldn't testify against Magdalena 1040 00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:03.360 because they were still terrified that we should do something 1041 00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:06.079 to them. They thought they still were convinced she was 1042 00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:10.480 a god, so they did nothing. Yeah, and allegedly the 1043 00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.960 authorities discovered the mutilated bodies of several victims, including Guerrero 1044 00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:19.960 and the investigator, near the cult ritual sites. Now that 1045 00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:26.119 is not really one hundred percent, So that is, it 1046 00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:29.559 wasn't sure if they actually found them or not. That's 1047 00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.079 you hear from multiple people that some people say no, 1048 00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:34.519 they never found them, or yes they did so, but 1049 00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.519 it is they did find mutilated bodies of some of 1050 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.760 the victims, and that's why we get such a random 1051 00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:42.239 number between six to fourteen. 1052 00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:44.599 She didn't get let out though. 1053 00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:49.119 Right, No, no, Now, the so her and her brother 1054 00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:55.280 got fifty years and the remaining cult members, including Haesus, 1055 00:58:55.559 --> 00:59:00.800 were given thirty year sentences. Okay, And and the reason 1056 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:03.440 why they got thirty instead of fifties because there's considerations 1057 00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:07.239 giving to their illiteracy and impoverished backgrounds. They felt sorry 1058 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.119 for them, but they they put everyone in jail like 1059 00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:12.800 that was almost a life sentence for most of them. Now, 1060 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.800 Magdalena ended up disappearing in the system. Like I was saying, 1061 00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:21.840 they don't really know what happened to her or where 1062 00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:25.719 she actually went, so that you know that ads. 1063 00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:29.679 Yeah, suspect to me, like they let her ass out 1064 00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:32.719 right or something about the studio? 1065 00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:36.440 You too, man, we had any of the details here, 1066 00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:37.639 sounds like this might have been. 1067 00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:39.519 A large scale affair, like where are these folks? 1068 00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:39.800 It was? 1069 00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:45.480 It ended really arsenal from It ended really really fast, 1070 00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:48.800 is from what I understand. It was over very quick. 1071 00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:51.840 It wasn't a you know, I'm sure some of them 1072 00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:54.679 had some rifles and that was it. So they said 1073 00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.400 a shootout, but I'm assuming this a couple of them 1074 00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:00.840 had rifles and the rest of them maybe had machetes 1075 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:05.559 and other tool implements to try to a good attack. 1076 01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.880 But they all because when you said shootout, I was thinking, well, 1077 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.480 they've already got peyoti and marijuana, they running drugs and 1078 01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:12.719 second guns up. 1079 01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:19.079 Yeah, it was because that, Yeah, it was because of 1080 01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.119 the cartel in the beginning. Who's who's to say that 1081 01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:24.719 they didn't have any weapons left over from the cartel 1082 01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:26.159 when the cartel was there. You know, they might have 1083 01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:27.079 left some things. 1084 01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:29.599 They might have been the new owners of the cartail, right, 1085 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:31.239 new franchise owners of that operation. 1086 01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:34.159 Exactly. 1087 01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:36.719 I'm trying to think. Was it was it golf cartel 1088 01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:39.679 that was still in power nineteen sixties in that area. 1089 01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:41.440 I don't know that. 1090 01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:42.039 I don't know. 1091 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:43.239 Now. 1092 01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:47.079 It's so similar to a Dolpho, isn't it. 1093 01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:51.719 It is, thank you, thank you, very so similar. 1094 01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:54.599 And they let that guy go. I mean they faked, 1095 01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:56.519 he faked his death and they let him go. And 1096 01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:59.119 it's like they lost this girl in the system. 1097 01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:00.320 Are you she is? 1098 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:03.360 Yeah, one, no one knows, No one knows where she No. 1099 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:05.719 One knows because they fucking let her out, dude, for 1100 01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.199 one hundred they let her out, or they didn't even 1101 01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:11.320 the trial didn't even happen, and they didn't even you 1102 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:11.840 know what I mean. 1103 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.360 It's like, I'm sure the trial happened, but they just 1104 01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.760 shipped her in the I don't know, maybe she conjured 1105 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:20.559 up some some Aztec goddess ship. 1106 01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:24.440 Then she conjured up a government. I'm telling you, we 1107 01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:28.440 got to look into it because he knows somebody, somebody knew. 1108 01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:32.360 Her, or maybe maybe there were some supernatural powers granted 1109 01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.280 by the drinking of this and they brought her in 1110 01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:36.400 to study her further. 1111 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:40.159 Well, they could be studying the ship out of her. 1112 01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.519 But she's somewhere and they let it. They let her 1113 01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:44.320 ask go. 1114 01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:48.360 Or she, in my opinion, the oracle of a drug lord. 1115 01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:51.119 Something. 1116 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:55.079 They love that ship. There's no way you're gonna let 1117 01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:57.719 a cult leader like this go because if they let 1118 01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.480 Adolpho go, why would they let her? Why would they 1119 01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:04.360 put her up like she's got a whole ass you know, 1120 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:06.519 cult behind her death cult. 1121 01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:10.239 Yeah, yeah, that drinks the blood. 1122 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:11.360 Now. 1123 01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:13.800 One thing to know about this is that there is 1124 01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:17.880 so many stories out there. Trying to find the truth 1125 01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:22.360 is extremely difficult because it you know, with legends and 1126 01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:26.480 even conspiracies. You know, everybody adds into the pot and 1127 01:02:26.519 --> 01:02:29.159 it gets so difficult to actually find the truth. And 1128 01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:32.760 being in conspiracies, I'm sure you guys know that. You 1129 01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:35.360 know the government will throw in three quarters of those 1130 01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:37.800 conspiracies to really throw us off the trail. You know, 1131 01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:41.239 they try to redirect us and who's who's to say that, 1132 01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:43.000 you know, when you're searching for this, that's not it. 1133 01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:46.199 And like to to add creatas to that. You know, 1134 01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:50.679 when when you google Magdalena Solas and the picture that 1135 01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:54.559 comes up, I would say, you know, seventy five percent 1136 01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:58.360 of the pictures that come up are not Magdalena Solis. Okay, 1137 01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:02.199 it's Dagmar ogle Be and who was a Danish serial 1138 01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:05.559 killer who died thirty years before all this happened. 1139 01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:06.880 Wow. 1140 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.760 So if you google it and you see this one picture, 1141 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:12.639 it's not that's not her. That's not her. 1142 01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:16.320 Right now, I'm already there. 1143 01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:21.039 Let me uh I had I had that open, but 1144 01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:21.880 I'm gonna. 1145 01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:24.000 Yeah. 1146 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:26.440 I remember hearing that on your show, and I went 1147 01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:29.719 to go check and I did notice two different pictures. 1148 01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:31.679 But there is one that it seemed to have a 1149 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:32.199 lot more. 1150 01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:34.280 Is there a big Is it a big fat lady 1151 01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.480 in a pink dress? 1152 01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:42.599 No? No, so no sogdala. You'll see one where she's 1153 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:46.519 got like a lace top and a bow on her front. 1154 01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:53.840 That's not that's a that is a Dagmar. That's Dagmar, okay. 1155 01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:56.840 So the other one, yes, who has the mole, the 1156 01:03:56.880 --> 01:03:59.960 one who has the mole is Magdalena Solas? 1157 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:02.599 Yes, that is weird though if you were to like 1158 01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:05.239 put in Magdalene and Sola's I have incident, and then 1159 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:07.960 in Google and I went over to images, you'll see, Yeah, 1160 01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:09.760 it's public. I would say on my end, it's about 1161 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.360 half and half that is wild that you will see 1162 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:16.360 might actually be more of the other. 1163 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:18.000 One. 1164 01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:22.360 That's exactly it. I agree. It's always about this confusion 1165 01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:25.000 and misdirection to take you into a different way to 1166 01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:27.320 when you're doing any type of research. You know, like 1167 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.199 I talk about that with like think about Walt Disney. 1168 01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:34.199 You know, is Walt Disney frozen? Is his body croyogenantically frozen? Well, 1169 01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:36.400 why don't you type in Walt Disney frozen and see 1170 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:39.239 what comes up? Oh, we got the cartoon frozen. You know, 1171 01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:42.320 it's all about these like we'll take you here. It 1172 01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:44.360 just makes it a little more difficult to actually find 1173 01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:44.800 the truth. 1174 01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:46.079 Yeah. 1175 01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:48.320 They even did a I don't know if you watch this, 1176 01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.639 but they did an American Dad episode on that about 1177 01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:55.559 like I did not Disney being frozen in the theme park. 1178 01:04:55.639 --> 01:05:00.519 And but anyways, let me just ask you your person opinion. 1179 01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:03.039 I don't know where you were ade on the conspiracy stream. 1180 01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:05.559 But are you more spiritual with this? 1181 01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:06.039 Oh? 1182 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:08.760 Us too? But like if you had to look at 1183 01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:11.840 it from like a spiritual perspective, if you had to 1184 01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.920 look at it from you know, they've added spices to this, 1185 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.519 and maybe some of it is you know, just made up. 1186 01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.920 Like what what do you think about all of it? 1187 01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:27.440 Well, bottom line is that there was some people who 1188 01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:30.800 went off the rails after drinking blood. I believe that 1189 01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:35.360 blood drinking happened for sure. Okay we human drug blood drinking. Yeah, 1190 01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:37.280 I think that happened as well. Whether it came down 1191 01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:39.840 to the actual heart coming up, there is stories about that, 1192 01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:43.920 and they did have the mutilated bodies. But I believe 1193 01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:49.079 that a lot of this legitimately happened. To what degree 1194 01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:52.559 was it fantasized and escalated and made a lot more 1195 01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:58.159 I don't know, Hollywood esque, I can't say. But there 1196 01:05:58.199 --> 01:05:59.719 was a group of people who took over a town 1197 01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:01.679 and they killed and murdered a lot of people. Now 1198 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:06.199 I'm on the I'm on the boat of that. There 1199 01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:09.400 definitely was some form of possession in there. I believe 1200 01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:11.599 there was some sort of demonic possession, especially when they 1201 01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:14.880 started drinking the blood of these animals or these for 1202 01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.599 sure the blood of the people, you know, like that 1203 01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:20.760 is one. And when you talked about like they had 1204 01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:24.440 drenalized a blood, you know that is something else that 1205 01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:29.440 well we know that it it gives people a high, right, 1206 01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:33.320 It's not only you're mixing with coyote, You're you're having 1207 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:37.440 this this this high as well. And I'm I'm I 1208 01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:40.079 believe that there was definitely some possession. And you know, 1209 01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:43.719 was she actually possessed by a demon or or was 1210 01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:48.719 she believing this was you know, herself. I think she 1211 01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:55.920 became you know, I don't know, drunk with power and 1212 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:58.159 and it just took it over. It took her over, 1213 01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:00.920 and she allowed herself to be She loved herself to 1214 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.480 be a receptacle for a entity. 1215 01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:06.639 I yeah, I would agree with you on that. It 1216 01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:08.800 kind of reminds me of did you ever watch the 1217 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:10.800 movie The Mist Stephen King? 1218 01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:13.880 I know the movie, but I have not watched it. 1219 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:16.920 It's basically like if you get a small group of 1220 01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:21.000 people together. There was one superligious lady who ended up 1221 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:23.079 like saying, you know, oh, we got we got to 1222 01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:26.239 make the grave sacrifices, right, you know what I'm talking 1223 01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.400 about Nick, and it always comes. It always ends up 1224 01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:34.039 in like blood sacrifices because there were these monster things 1225 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.400 outside of this grocery store that lived in the mist 1226 01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:39.880 or whatever. And she would say, you know, we have 1227 01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:43.199 to throw one person out and let them get eaten 1228 01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:46.119 and you know, fucked up by this creature so it 1229 01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:49.719 won't get us. And it's like anytime you get like 1230 01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:52.440 you take a small group of people, you put one 1231 01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:55.519 religious wacko in the middle, it always ends up in 1232 01:07:55.559 --> 01:07:59.639 like blood sacrificing, And you know, it's just it makes 1233 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:03.119 you think, how many times has this story story repeated 1234 01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:06.000 itself throughout history and we still don't get it. I 1235 01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:08.480 almost feel like COVID was one of those things. It's like, 1236 01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:12.159 put people in mass hysteria, give us one fucking weirdo 1237 01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:14.760 that's got all the answers, and watch everybody eat each 1238 01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:17.800 other alive. It's just I don't know, It's it's just 1239 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:19.960 like a tale is old as. 1240 01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:23.840 Time, like, and your blood sacrifices will lock all the 1241 01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:29.039 old people in the old Folks Home. Got this COVID here? 1242 01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:31.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 1243 01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:33.640 Crazy. 1244 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:39.640 I will say that the type of activity with the 1245 01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:46.880 killing and the mutilation and the ritualized dismemberment and something 1246 01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:50.439 it and not not that I'm trying to normalize it, 1247 01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:53.720 but it is common among cartels. I mean, I think 1248 01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:57.159 in some respects, I think people had even said that 1249 01:08:56.840 --> 01:09:00.600 the that the ritual killings of cartels was worse than isis. 1250 01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:04.359 And so I do know from living in South Texas 1251 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.640 that there were many times that people came upon sites 1252 01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:12.479 that were witnessed to what was left behind and it 1253 01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:16.840 was not, you know, obviously easy to look at, but 1254 01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:18.920 and this is something that's common. 1255 01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:20.680 And I think somebody. 1256 01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:23.479 I'll even go off and speculate that they had said, what, 1257 01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:24.840 you know, what do you think is happening? 1258 01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:26.079 And they said, well, I. 1259 01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:30.039 Think the the people, the asset people have come back 1260 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:35.439 right to reclaim and because of the type of stylized killing, 1261 01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:38.199 the type of stylized whatever. And so when you hear 1262 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.079 about things like this with Mantdalna, you hear about adultfo 1263 01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.800 you hear about these things, it's almost like like lockstep. 1264 01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:49.560 You know that it's just a continuation of what was 1265 01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:52.840 happening back then. But it is very unusual that she 1266 01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:56.840 kind of fell through the cracks or slipped through the system. Conveniently, 1267 01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:01.319 maybe out of her own know, kind of wits to 1268 01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:04.119 kind of slip out, or somebody picked her up, or 1269 01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:06.359 you know, maybe it was an opt to begin with 1270 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:07.560 and somebody picked her up. 1271 01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:13.000 Dude, I'm leaning that way. 1272 01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:15.720 To the east side, and you're going to try it 1273 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:18.600 on some higher level people. 1274 01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:18.800 I don't know. 1275 01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:22.199 Well, it's it's like I've been saying this recently, and 1276 01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:26.439 I just I feel like it fits this because we 1277 01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:29.479 can speculate, right, and they'll call it like you're speculating, 1278 01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:32.520 you know, you're adding stuff that we can't verify. But 1279 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:36.279 they there has been such a concerted effort to get 1280 01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:40.199 us to not believe our own eyes and not being 1281 01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:43.840 able to put clues together and like not be able 1282 01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:49.159 to take like storylines and infer detail, Like you're giving 1283 01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:50.960 me this story, right, and you want me not to 1284 01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.800 believe my own eyes. It bothers me because it's like, yeah, okay, 1285 01:10:55.840 --> 01:11:01.680 maybe I'm speculating, but it's like Adolpho, Okay, Okay, they 1286 01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:06.840 obviously faked that motherfucker's death, right he escaped with the 1287 01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:10.359 Only thing this story is missing about Magdalena is like 1288 01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:12.680 she turned out to be trans in the end. It 1289 01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:16.439 has all the freaking bookmarks of like don't believe your 1290 01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:20.119 own eyes, don't look over here. Nothing, just a bunch 1291 01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:23.039 of crazy people and you know, and she got lost 1292 01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.319 in the system. But believe us, she's in jail, okay, 1293 01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:29.439 because you said so. And it's just like, what really 1294 01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:31.840 was going on out there? You know, I'm starting to 1295 01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:35.119 lean towards this could have been another like program to 1296 01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:39.319 kill Colt, just like Adolfo and all those places. And 1297 01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:41.439 what was it, I said, Lisa, where they had the 1298 01:11:41.479 --> 01:11:43.960 sweat shops and they were like killing the workers and 1299 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:55.760 shit was it? Yeah, warez Yep and wares and they 1300 01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.119 were stealing all the factory workers and like selling them 1301 01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:04.560 for mut mutual ritual ritual killings and stuff. But it 1302 01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.520 just seems to me like they have a plan out 1303 01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:10.079 there and they're able to get away with more stuff 1304 01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:12.760 because they're not like keeping up with shit like this 1305 01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:16.119 is the first time I've ever heard about this. Why 1306 01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:16.560 you know. 1307 01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:19.840 What, because this one has been covered up greatly. Like 1308 01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:23.239 my my brother in law, he's a Mexican and he 1309 01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:26.359 is into all of this kind of dark conspiracy stuff, 1310 01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:29.920 you know, like these things specifically, he had no idea, 1311 01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:33.079 He had no idea. The only person who I talked 1312 01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:35.880 to from this area who knew anything was a thirteen 1313 01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:39.159 year old boy who loves history. He is he just 1314 01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:41.880 you know, takes in any and all history, and he's 1315 01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:44.079 the only one who knew about it. No one else 1316 01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:45.920 had any idea about this at all. 1317 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:50.560 And it's like, do these people not have families? Like 1318 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:55.760 does Magdalene? It was just her brother, like no family members, No, like, well, 1319 01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:57.039 brother if her. 1320 01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:58.880 Brother's pimping are out at twelve years old, you know, 1321 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:02.239 I'm I'm thinking the family really wasn't there or around 1322 01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:02.680 as much. 1323 01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:06.079 Yeah, yeah, I mean, you're probably right about that. 1324 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:08.920 And I'm not surprised she get lost in the system 1325 01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:10.880 there in prison, because this lady's clearly and I asked 1326 01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:12.800 that she's very effective at what she was doing. 1327 01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.960 Yes, or she convinced someone, or she was able to 1328 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.079 convince someone, you know, to to take her in, you know, 1329 01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:24.000 like some sort of public official. She was able to 1330 01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.960 convince a lot of Yeah. 1331 01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:28.720 Not just the prostitution ones. 1332 01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:34.560 The prison system in Mexico is is a very loose system, correct, 1333 01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:38.159 It's I think the rumor was that in the prison 1334 01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:40.319 systems in Mexico, you could you know, show up on 1335 01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:43.680 the weekends or show up every other day, or do 1336 01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:47.239 you know you had all kinds of luxuries in the 1337 01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:47.920 prison system. 1338 01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:49.479 Correct me if I'm wrong, But. 1339 01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:52.439 I believe the luxuries. I'm not sure about showing up though, 1340 01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:54.600 And like. 1341 01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:57.520 When I was, I was trying to be loose about it, 1342 01:13:57.560 --> 01:13:58.680 but yeah, real real quick. 1343 01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.199 When I was, I did hear from a lot of dudes, 1344 01:14:01.239 --> 01:14:03.920 when I believe it or not. When I was in 1345 01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:06.199 federal prison, there was actually a fuck ton of people 1346 01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:09.600 waiting to get deported. Believe it, there is a ton 1347 01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:12.520 of people wasting up space in prison actually that are 1348 01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:17.960 not here legally. And they oh, it was so many 1349 01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:21.399 it was ridiculous. I hate to say, but if they 1350 01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:24.399 had brown skin in federal prison, it was like odds 1351 01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:27.279 are it was cocaine or you're really illegal re entry. 1352 01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:30.039 There? 1353 01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:33.560 Yeah, they wait years to even get fucking sent home. 1354 01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:38.239 It's ridiculous. Yeah. 1355 01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:40.840 Fuck, I forgot where I was going, but I saw 1356 01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:42.319 I was able to talk to a lot of dudes 1357 01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:44.520 I actually did time in Mexican prison, and they'll be 1358 01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:47.000 The thing is is that a lot of them it 1359 01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.159 was already their second or third time too, which is 1360 01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:51.960 really interesting. And like sometimes when you go back you 1361 01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:53.720 will have to do time in your own, you know, 1362 01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:58.319 good country. And they were saying, for a fact is 1363 01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:00.399 that if you have money and you end up in 1364 01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:03.079 Mexican prison, you will live a completely different life than 1365 01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:06.079 everybody else in there does. They said, there's people that 1366 01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:09.199 they know that if like they're rich and they can 1367 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:11.520 hold their money, like they're rich enough to where they'll 1368 01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:13.720 be rich until they get out, they'll knock a wall 1369 01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:16.359 down and give them two selves if you want to 1370 01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:19.039 pay for it, still bring up prostitutes, still bringing food. 1371 01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:22.760 They said, if you have money, you will live completely 1372 01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:24.000 different in Mexican prison. 1373 01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:26.720 They'll bring in stuff as well that it definitely hurts. 1374 01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:28.800 Yeah, hey, guys told me that that They definitely I 1375 01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:30.760 mean again, that whole thing was not going to wall down. 1376 01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:33.319 I don't know about that, but like that does sound extreme, 1377 01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:37.000 But I've had multiple people tell me that, like sex 1378 01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:39.479 in food is still an option while you're in that prison. 1379 01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:44.600 Well, is it just for rich people or yeah? 1380 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:45.159 Right? 1381 01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:47.279 Is it just who you know though? 1382 01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:49.960 Too, because like they said, you just got to have money. 1383 01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:54.399 Stories Actually I haven't heard stories I read in program 1384 01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:58.199 to Kill some of these programmed like CIA serial killers, 1385 01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:02.960 they get the most luxurious treatment when they're even even 1386 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:07.159 on death row, like John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, they 1387 01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:11.000 all got like this super luxurious treatment while they were 1388 01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:13.920 locked up, and it's like, is it who you know 1389 01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:18.039 or is it who your connections are? Or is it 1390 01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:23.399 like John Wayne Gacy got some crazy like luxurious treatment 1391 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.880 and like Ted Bundy had a kid on death row, 1392 01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.439 like he had conjugals, he had all that stuff, and 1393 01:16:29.479 --> 01:16:32.600 it's like, I don't know. Sometimes I think even in 1394 01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:39.119 Mexican prisons, it's like Magdalena probably you know, who knows 1395 01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:40.960 what happened to her, But it's all in who who 1396 01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:41.960 your connections are. 1397 01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:45.039 Maybe they got that was definitely one like one of 1398 01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:48.039 my my questions is you know, did she keep up 1399 01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:51.920 this facade or his belief that she was this god? 1400 01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:55.279 I was like, is she still portraying this in jail? 1401 01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:58.399 Is she like kicking back, drinking blood, still like paying 1402 01:16:58.399 --> 01:16:59.239 off the guards. 1403 01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.760 Let's say you believed it so hard, I'm sure you 1404 01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.920 could convince people in jail that you were this person, 1405 01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:08.039 you know, and then you're going to start getting people 1406 01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:11.479 to to uh to follow suit, because I'm assuming if 1407 01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:14.640 you're going to a woman's federal penitentiary. You know, there's 1408 01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.279 not the education level is going to be quite low there, 1409 01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:20.159 and you're just going to keep applying your trade. 1410 01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:24.600 And she's already a lesibo, so it's like paradise for 1411 01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:27.399 her plenty of. 1412 01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:30.279 But even if even if she was wasn't able to 1413 01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:32.399 convince him of God, I would think that she would 1414 01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:36.239 have at least some sort of Bruhidia tactics or tools 1415 01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:41.199 and would somehow convince people, even in prison, of like, 1416 01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:43.840 oh you want this person to I don't lose their hair. 1417 01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:47.159 I mean, you want this person to like belly over whatever. 1418 01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:49.119 You know, let me, let me show you a few 1419 01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:51.600 things and then just right away you can get people 1420 01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:52.239 on your side. 1421 01:17:52.359 --> 01:17:53.760 I mean, I don't know. 1422 01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:58.279 I just can't believe this lady's said in prison. I mean, 1423 01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:00.960 I understand the systems of a different there, but she 1424 01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:03.039 just to me, she seems like she has too many 1425 01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:06.479 skill sets, you know, and compare comparatively speaking, like, I 1426 01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:08.199 don't think Charles Manson ever went to prison. 1427 01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:10.039 It's kind of a different story since you see videos 1428 01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:10.359 of men. 1429 01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:13.640 I don't think he in prison, but he's never following 1430 01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:16.119 the the penal coat standards of hair length and beard 1431 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:17.439 length and et cetera. 1432 01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:19.239 So I've noticed that too. 1433 01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:23.000 To the note of preferential treatment is his right hand man, 1434 01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:26.520 Bobby Bosley, was somehow able to record a soundtrack to 1435 01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:28.560 a Kenneth Anger film while in prison. 1436 01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:31.039 See this is the ship I'm talking about. It's all 1437 01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:33.880 who you know? And like did they even go to jail? 1438 01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:36.880 That's another question for me, is like did they even 1439 01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:38.079 go to jail? 1440 01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:38.600 Dude? 1441 01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:43.600 Like it's I have not gone down. 1442 01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:47.039 You gotta you gotta have us on your show. We will. 1443 01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:54.600 Open since opened some minds. Hell yeah, did you guys? 1444 01:18:54.680 --> 01:19:01.479 See they're putting Chaos on Netflix. Dude, I can't wait 1445 01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:01.800 for that. 1446 01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:02.760 Wow. 1447 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:05.079 Okay, I don't have a I don't have a lot 1448 01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:08.039 of not very optimistic about it, you know. 1449 01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:08.960 He uh went. 1450 01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:13.159 For example, when Tom Neil introduced the project, he did 1451 01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:16.159 it on Rick Rubin's podcast, and then they got into 1452 01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:18.560 this offhanded tangent of how they both didn't know anything 1453 01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:22.359 about the process despite Tom's twenty year researching to Manson 1454 01:19:22.399 --> 01:19:25.640 and Rick Rubbin literally producing an album called The Process 1455 01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:28.640 based upon the Process Church theology. But they both played 1456 01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:30.119 these games and we don't we don't know what the 1457 01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:32.720 process is. So i'm very I'm not very optimistic in 1458 01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:35.479 that project because you know, not solely based on their 1459 01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:38.520 their little conversation, but you know, it obviously seems exhibit 1460 01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:39.920 what I think's going on there. 1461 01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:42.039 Well, you know what I always say, as soon as 1462 01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:44.880 a documentary hits HBO or Netflix, you can count on 1463 01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:50.520 it being one dog shit, fucking propaganda bull that no 1464 01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:54.199 actual facts at all. Like watch him come out with 1465 01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:58.600 a documentary on Magdalene as Sole. You watch it and 1466 01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:00.800 you think it's all just a bunch into like hate 1467 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:03.960 grey degree doc bullshit that they put in all HBO 1468 01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:07.319 Netflix documentaries. I mean, all they have to have, like 1469 01:20:07.359 --> 01:20:10.560 I always say, is good background music, a couple of 1470 01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:14.680 scary images and they got you. It's it's brainwashing. Its 1471 01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:18.279 m K to the max with those things. 1472 01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:18.680 It's like. 1473 01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:22.640 That's what I was gonna Yeah, is there not that 1474 01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:22.880 I know? 1475 01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:25.960 No, it's not a wild now. You know, when you're 1476 01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:28.680 talking about those terrible documentaries, you know, like the MH 1477 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:31.479 three seventy, the Malaysian airlines that went missing, the documentary 1478 01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:33.560 they had on Netflix, you know, it's like we're just 1479 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:36.159 gonna go here and leave it at this we're not 1480 01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:40.359 gonna go actually fully into full like everything, and they 1481 01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:45.840 leave you believing that this was all is all possible, 1482 01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:47.000 like it just crashed. That's it. 1483 01:20:47.119 --> 01:20:50.039 Nothing more right, a fire event or something. 1484 01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:52.279 Like that, and it just cra you know. I do 1485 01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:54.439 believe there was a fire event. I do believe there 1486 01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:56.720 with that H three seventy that there was a fire event. 1487 01:20:57.159 --> 01:20:59.520 There was a fire event. But it's not. It wasn't 1488 01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:02.000 what they're making it out to be. Because well, let 1489 01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:03.920 me just tell you this. I almost got to chills 1490 01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:06.239 when you said that, because I've been researching it and 1491 01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:10.960 I'm actually thinking it's more like I heard a guy 1492 01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:13.640 talking about it. I think it was on the Confessionals podcast, 1493 01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:17.680 but he's Forbes. Yeah, oh my god. The guy's got 1494 01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:21.720 it nailed with like the physics and everything, like they 1495 01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:24.479 disappeared that motherfucker, like the Bermuda triangle. 1496 01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:29.000 So just recently he was on Candice Owens and he goes, yeah, 1497 01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:33.720 much more detail, and he's amazing. I talked to him 1498 01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:35.560 after he was on the Confessionals. I was trying to 1499 01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:39.279 get him on my show. I never I never followed 1500 01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:40.760 through well that actually, that was the point where I 1501 01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:43.720 was I had another show and I had a co host, 1502 01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:48.039 and I ended that relationship and I started my own show, 1503 01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:50.520 and I never followed up with Ash, and I should 1504 01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:52.800 have at that time, because now he's I think he's 1505 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:54.880 almost too big for me to get on at this 1506 01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:59.039 He's a hot commodity. He is he is, Yeah, I 1507 01:21:59.039 --> 01:21:59.840 mean he went. 1508 01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:03.960 All the way to like he found the CIA guy 1509 01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:07.279 and everything on that. I mean, but I'm glad that 1510 01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:11.119 you know about that because it makes me think you're 1511 01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:17.600 on the level with like the conspiracy stuff. Because even 1512 01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:20.000 with stuff like the True crime I always say, if 1513 01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:23.560 you look hard enough at true crime, you'll see remnants 1514 01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:30.279 of conspiracy in there. I mean, it's like military connections, 1515 01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:34.079 government connections. Which is why I asked you right in 1516 01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:36.800 the beginning of this episode, like these brothers, like what 1517 01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:39.239 do we know about him? Dude, Like it just seems 1518 01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:43.960 a little odd, like this scam they're trying to find 1519 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:48.239 these isolated places to conduct like almost like a mind experiment. 1520 01:22:48.279 --> 01:22:51.079 It just when you're talking, I really believe that mk 1521 01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:53.760 Ultra plays a much bigger role than we really believe, 1522 01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:56.079 you know, because mk Aultra was the mixing of drugs 1523 01:22:56.119 --> 01:23:01.239 with the mixing of drugs and psychedelics to to implant 1524 01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:04.880 messages into people. Right, So with all these medications that 1525 01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:08.000 people are taking now, like like candy now these days, 1526 01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:11.399 you know, and with everything that's on TV, I'm sure 1527 01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:14.039 that they're implanting a ton of messages into these people. 1528 01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:17.319 And I believe that MK ultra is much bigger than 1529 01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:21.600 we actually care to believe. I think it's huge. 1530 01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:23.039 I think it's still going on for sure. 1531 01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:25.119 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1532 01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:26.880 Well there's an example of it going on in and 1533 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:28.640 around Mexico. In recent years. 1534 01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:32.199 The Nexium cult was shipping kids to and from Albany, 1535 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:35.720 New York on their locations to child farms in Mexico. 1536 01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:38.359 They were employing a neurologist up there in Albany to 1537 01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:40.640 do a lot of the training for their membership. 1538 01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:42.800 He was running the Finders Club. 1539 01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:46.520 Finders Club was running kids in and out of Mexico. 1540 01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:49.239 Dude, you know, I was thinking about that, I swear 1541 01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:51.239 to god, I was thinking about that because I do 1542 01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:53.680 find it interesting how this is two dudes and I 1543 01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:56.279 remember the Finders I think, well, it seemed to base 1544 01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:59.039 on in court if I remember correctly, it was two 1545 01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:02.079 guys again and it's just like I'm like, yo, like, 1546 01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:04.439 is there like an operation behind this? And these are 1547 01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:06.399 just like the faces like kind of like the run, 1548 01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:07.359 you know, the running it. 1549 01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:11.520 We need to take a closer look at these Hernandez brothers. 1550 01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:14.039 I bet they both got their dick sweat in some 1551 01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:18.079 kind of a government CIA type you know, they you know, 1552 01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:19.000 they had to do it. 1553 01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:21.840 And the backstory, you know what, Like the more you 1554 01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:24.760 talk about this, like I didn't approach it like that, 1555 01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:27.039 but the more you talk about it, I'm like, yeah, 1556 01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:30.840 like why not you know, like knowing the right to 1557 01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:35.319 you know, uh, you're but buena to give people. You know, 1558 01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:37.279 it's kind of like, yeah, we're going to drug you 1559 01:24:37.359 --> 01:24:42.840 up and then put these suggestions into you. And it's 1560 01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:45.640 it's interesting, you know, like they just the backstory, they're 1561 01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:49.960 hands brothers, They're just these lifelong career scam artists. Could 1562 01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:52.880 they be something more? Yeah? 1563 01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:56.960 Want to recruit those exactly, JJ, You're fucking on fire. 1564 01:24:57.039 --> 01:24:59.039 That's exactly what I was gonna say. You'd want to 1565 01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:01.960 recruit people that are lifelong scam. 1566 01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:05.159 Artists, dam artists. 1567 01:25:05.479 --> 01:25:08.479 They're just gonna say it was a lifelong scam artist, dude. 1568 01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:11.600 That's those are the perfect people. Okay, let's let's talk 1569 01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:16.680 like logically, I'm gonna start a cult tomorrow. All of 1570 01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:19.880 you assholes are part of my cult. We're going to 1571 01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:21.199 start a cold tomorrow. 1572 01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:23.680 I am doing the drinking. 1573 01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:27.239 Where Okay, let's just think about it. Where can we 1574 01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:31.920 go right now? That you all know that's got no electricity, 1575 01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:37.279 no form of religion, no like they just need it. 1576 01:25:37.359 --> 01:25:39.439 Sounds like how did they know? 1577 01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:41.319 How did they do back then? 1578 01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:41.640 Right? 1579 01:25:43.119 --> 01:25:47.000 They know? It's like this, this ship is always guided, 1580 01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:50.680 it's always manipulated. It's like, oh, these two brothers stumbled 1581 01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:52.319 upon this place with no form. 1582 01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:54.840 Here's something to add to that. Here's something to add 1583 01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:59.279 to that. So prior was you know, the the the 1584 01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:02.159 cartel was in there, right, and they got ran out 1585 01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:07.119 by the federalies. The federalllies were there to remove them, right, 1586 01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:11.079 So the federllies already had scoped this place. Is kind 1587 01:26:11.079 --> 01:26:14.239 of what what we're if you're going with that. They 1588 01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:17.199 were there already, They seen this place, they see maybe 1589 01:26:17.239 --> 01:26:18.359 the potential for this. 1590 01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:21.880 Oh yeah they did, and they maybe they let him 1591 01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:24.039 let them know, like they gave them a leg up 1592 01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:26.920 on it, and they just you know, hey, there's this 1593 01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:29.640 place and they don't have a last I feel like 1594 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:31.199 you were going to say something earlier. 1595 01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:33.399 No, yeah, just a couple of things. 1596 01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:36.079 What I was going to add to the conspiracy lore 1597 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:40.680 that we're espousing now. I looked at Magdalena really quickly 1598 01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:42.520 on Wikipedia. I don't know if it's true, but it 1599 01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:44.319 says that she was born in nineteen forty seven. I 1600 01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:45.960 was like, what if she's the moon child? 1601 01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:52.800 Why pars? Oh god, I'm just kidding. Okay. 1602 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:54.359 So the other thing I was going to say is 1603 01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:58.640 really was born in forty seven? But that's yeah, now. 1604 01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:01.319 You're Nazis in Mexican for yes. 1605 01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:01.520 They were. 1606 01:27:02.079 --> 01:27:06.399 And so did any of the village people say anything, 1607 01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:08.640 like did they were? 1608 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:09.640 They questioned? 1609 01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:15.720 I mean so the village the village people, Uh, well yeah, 1610 01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:21.039 they they kept quiet. They would not testify. They just 1611 01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:25.600 took their lumps and went went to prison. They would not. 1612 01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:32.159 Was it like Manson? And they fucking washed those bitches 1613 01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:35.319 And they didn't have any fucking memory of this shit. 1614 01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:37.920 Like what if they didn't what if they couldn't tell 1615 01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:42.079 anything because they didn't remember it? Like I'm just I'm 1616 01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:45.199 going like above and beyond at this point because something 1617 01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:47.600 like this doesn't break loose and they're not be like 1618 01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:51.760 strings being pulled in some capacity. It's like they got 1619 01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:54.960 all these assholes in there and they like did like 1620 01:27:55.119 --> 01:28:01.319 men in black and you don't remember or anything, and 1621 01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:04.439 they're like, did this woman kill all these people? I 1622 01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:06.880 don't know, No she didn't. 1623 01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:08.079 Who. 1624 01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:12.520 Like, It's it's so easy for them to totally wipe 1625 01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:15.399 you of that stuff. I almost think that they do 1626 01:28:15.479 --> 01:28:18.359 it to us on a daily basis. How many people 1627 01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:19.359 do you know right now? 1628 01:28:20.520 --> 01:28:20.800 Who? 1629 01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:23.199 If you ask them, they're like, damn, doesn't it feel 1630 01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:26.760 like COVID was forever ago and we've gotten so used 1631 01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:28.920 to like getting back to normal life. It's like it 1632 01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:31.560 never happened. It's like, dude, no, let's always remember that 1633 01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:34.880 shit because it wasn't forever. It was like in our 1634 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:40.000 recent past, like within five years, and we we you 1635 01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:42.319 know remember, yeah right, you know. 1636 01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:46.159 So I will never forget that bullshit that they tried 1637 01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:49.159 to putting on me now, and I'll never forget the people, 1638 01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:53.359 including my family, who disowned me almost because of it. 1639 01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:54.920 All oh one hundred. 1640 01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:57.680 That's the I know. I probably all you guys all 1641 01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:00.199 have experienced that where it was you know, out. 1642 01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:05.239 Yeah, a little surprised. There's no kool aid. And in 1643 01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:07.600 the end of the story with these village people, no. 1644 01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:12.279 Right, the kool aid was a blund you know what I'm. 1645 01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:14.560 Saying, But get rid of all. The eye could even 1646 01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:15.920 be questioned, right, you know what I mean. 1647 01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:19.199 See see Jim Jones, what's your name is? 1648 01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:22.880 Sam Magdalena. She he ain't got shoot on Jim Jones. 1649 01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:25.279 She went for the real dude, Jim Jones passing around 1650 01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:28.680 kool aid. That's that's what it's about. She went for 1651 01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:29.520 the hard stuff. 1652 01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:32.560 It is a surprising that, I mean, it could speak 1653 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:35.000 to this stranglehole this lady had on the mentally speaking 1654 01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:36.000 under my control. 1655 01:29:36.039 --> 01:29:37.560 But like you know, surprising. 1656 01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:39.680 None of these village folks said a damn word, or 1657 01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:41.319 at least you know, probably seems like they said a 1658 01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:41.720 damn word. 1659 01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:43.399 It sounds like, That's what I'm saying. 1660 01:29:43.439 --> 01:29:45.720 It's weird that they didn't say anything, or the kids 1661 01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:48.399 or somebody you know, said something. 1662 01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:51.760 Unless they got fucking wiped, dude, unless they got wiped 1663 01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:54.039 for somehow the other. 1664 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.520 Way, Every every member of the village was put into 1665 01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:58.000 prison for thirty years. 1666 01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:01.520 That's plenty enough time to do you've. 1667 01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:04.239 Limited and which which brings a question like you've eliminated 1668 01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:07.319 everybody for thirty years? How did that? 1669 01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:09.279 How did you think about it? 1670 01:30:09.640 --> 01:30:09.840 Yeah? 1671 01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:12.479 And how did that? 1672 01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:15.359 That's a full on sanitation effort. 1673 01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:20.079 That's a good way just to clean out subjects all town. 1674 01:30:20.159 --> 01:30:22.199 What if there was something there that they actually wanted? 1675 01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:27.039 Yeah, but it's like risa, like how did the legend survive? 1676 01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:31.039 How did the how did the town survive? 1677 01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:33.760 As well? You know if you remove everyone, because you 1678 01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:35.359 go there and you can search it, you can find 1679 01:30:35.399 --> 01:30:39.439 your but Buena and San Luis Potosi, it is it. 1680 01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:42.520 It's bigger now, you know, it's growing. So that was 1681 01:30:42.600 --> 01:30:46.279 sixty three. What did they resettle it? Did they bring 1682 01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:48.760 in people from outside? Like, hey, look at free houses 1683 01:30:48.840 --> 01:30:50.640 here you go. You know, no one's living there for 1684 01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:53.880 thirty years because everybody was taken out, So I don't know. 1685 01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:57.119 They don't talk about children though, so that that that's 1686 01:30:57.159 --> 01:30:59.560 one thing is children are not mentioned. There has to 1687 01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:04.000 be child in the story. Sure, they're not mentioned at all. 1688 01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:08.680 Of people that were brought into harvest, you know, like 1689 01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:11.399 day workers, but they just kept them there because they 1690 01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:15.720 were going to be you know, harvesters or what do 1691 01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.359 you call the coal such I don't remember whatever, anyway, 1692 01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:20.079 you know what I'm talking about. And so therefore you 1693 01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:23.399 wouldn't need children or you couldn't sustain children, right, it 1694 01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:24.880 would only be the people that could work. 1695 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:28.399 And so therefore you I mean, I don't know, I'm spec. 1696 01:31:28.439 --> 01:31:29.680 That's scientology, is added Toude. 1697 01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:31.760 That's why they have children farms in Mexico because the 1698 01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:33.319 kids in orn ay Go, they's got to have the 1699 01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:36.239 adults work and stuff. So you know, maybe it's a 1700 01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:38.439 new cartel or cult and moved into town. The old 1701 01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:40.560 cartel moved out, this cult moved in. Maybe they got 1702 01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:42.159 another one coming through. 1703 01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:46.039 Well, what it's the time gap between this death cult 1704 01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:50.000 and Adolpho's death cult, because it's like, is this the 1705 01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:53.279 footprint that they followed for like so twenty years? 1706 01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:56.119 But I thought it was in the eighties adulphos. 1707 01:31:55.600 --> 01:32:00.640 So the in program to kill. And it actually ties 1708 01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:04.039 back to Jonestown too, because Henry Lee Lucas said he 1709 01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:08.880 knew Jim Jones that that cult was part of like 1710 01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:12.920 a CIA mind control type thing with Jonestown. He also 1711 01:32:13.079 --> 01:32:16.600 said there were many death cults in Mexico. He xed 1712 01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:18.560 them out on a map and was like, here's one, 1713 01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:21.800 here's one. Look, here there's another one. And they were like, 1714 01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:23.960 oh yeah, Henry Lee Lucas, you're full of shit. And 1715 01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:26.840 then they went and they found like Adolpho's ranch, they 1716 01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:30.880 found all these death ranches, bodies buried all over the place, 1717 01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:34.920 and so it's like weaponized a little bit. And you 1718 01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:37.359 almost have to wonder if this wasn't like some kind 1719 01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:41.520 of a like a training wheels type of thing for 1720 01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:45.279 what they were about to do later, because and I 1721 01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:49.039 don't think it stopped either, like we stopped investigating it. Sure, 1722 01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:52.039 but if you went there right now, I'm sure you 1723 01:32:52.039 --> 01:32:55.119 could find eight hundred and seventy two death colts with 1724 01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:58.640 bodies buried all over the property. And you know that 1725 01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:00.880 that's just my opinion, But I mean, why would it 1726 01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:03.079 have just stopped, you know, overnight. 1727 01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:04.840 True. 1728 01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:07.600 Yeah, I think the time frame between the Matamorris colt 1729 01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:09.399 and this cult and the you know, the you know, 1730 01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:12.720 you know, the timeframe and the geographic you know, relatively 1731 01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:15.680 close geographically speaking, there's probably you know, more questions need 1732 01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:18.560 to be asked there because they Matamores folks may have 1733 01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:20.920 been you know, outed in the early eighties and rest 1734 01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:21.479 and whatnot. 1735 01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:23.520 But that certainly existed there. 1736 01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:25.319 Prior to that, right, right? 1737 01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:27.880 Yeah, Like how many years was that going on before 1738 01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.239 they actually started like going to look for it? 1739 01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:31.359 Yeah? 1740 01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:34.159 I mean, well, it's enough in proximity for for certainly 1741 01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:34.960 to ask that question. 1742 01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:37.359 And do these do these things have connections? 1743 01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:41.800 Mm hmmm, I don't know, dude. Question seems all fucking 1744 01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:45.880 suss to me. Nobody joined a death cult anybody like 1745 01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:49.640 hopefully but anytime. See, yes, right, they listen to the 1746 01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:52.760 occult rejects and they know a thing or two. I'll 1747 01:33:52.760 --> 01:33:53.439 start a cult. 1748 01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:58.560 You can join my cult. Kool Aid? What kind of 1749 01:33:58.600 --> 01:33:59.439 kolid are you serving? 1750 01:34:00.399 --> 01:34:02.640 Great drink? Yeah, that's great. 1751 01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:04.960 Gotta have that red solo. 1752 01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:06.000 Yeah. 1753 01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:08.439 No, actually I'm gonna I'm gonna up it and I'm 1754 01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:11.600 gonna do kool Aid pickles. You guys will love it. 1755 01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:14.159 Have you ever had a kool Aid pickle? 1756 01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:15.279 No? 1757 01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:17.520 That could be the worst thing I've ever had, or 1758 01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:20.119 it could be the amazing thing. I don't know. 1759 01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:20.680 They're right. 1760 01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:22.359 I had it at a restaurant one time. They were like, 1761 01:34:22.399 --> 01:34:24.239 do you want to try kool aid pickle? I was like, 1762 01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:27.560 it could be sweet and salty, you know, like it's 1763 01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:30.439 a pickle, but it's been like fermented in kool Aid, 1764 01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:33.560 So let's give it a try. Absolutely not, don't fucking 1765 01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:36.399 ever do that, guys, that road. 1766 01:34:36.680 --> 01:34:39.279 But the question is what kool aid did they use? 1767 01:34:39.319 --> 01:34:42.760 Because kool Aid, of course there is. Is it cherry 1768 01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:44.560 or was it rape? 1769 01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:46.640 Maybe lemon? Lime? 1770 01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:50.479 I bet if I now I'm going to google it. 1771 01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:55.439 I bet it's a Hawaiian punch, punch to the kidney. 1772 01:34:56.159 --> 01:34:57.920 I think it was Soundic or one of those restaurants 1773 01:34:57.920 --> 01:34:59.560 that did a pickle ice creams. Maybe this is a 1774 01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:01.760 recent pickle fat that you you ran across with the 1775 01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:02.760 pickled kool Aid. 1776 01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:06.479 What if it was just a big campaign for kool Aid, 1777 01:35:08.439 --> 01:35:11.399 it could have been Oh dude, shut the fuck up. 1778 01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:14.479 It was great. It was literally great. 1779 01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:20.920 Grapest grape is solid, you know there's I'm a fan 1780 01:35:20.960 --> 01:35:21.640 of grape. 1781 01:35:23.159 --> 01:35:24.560 Yeah, but I don't know about grape of pickle? 1782 01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:26.640 Right, yeah, it doesn't mix well pickle? 1783 01:35:26.720 --> 01:35:31.520 Yeah, great, assholes, you guys, it says right here. I 1784 01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:35.479 googled it, so it must be true. They didn't even 1785 01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:40.000 use kool Aid brand kool Aid. They used flavor Aid. 1786 01:35:40.439 --> 01:35:40.960 I knew it. 1787 01:35:42.479 --> 01:35:46.479 That's why it was crape. 1788 01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:49.439 Let's just say they didn't even put poison in it 1789 01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:51.960 and it they just drink this fucking flavor aid and 1790 01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:55.640 it just killed them off immediately. We don't know that 1791 01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:58.399 that's some toxic ship right there. We don't even know 1792 01:35:58.439 --> 01:35:59.000 what's in that. 1793 01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:03.159 Like they could have they could have used tang, you know. 1794 01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:03.359 But. 1795 01:36:04.840 --> 01:36:07.279 They can't even get the right stuff. 1796 01:36:07.319 --> 01:36:10.680 Come on, no, this is from Save a lot. They 1797 01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:13.239 didn't even they didn't even ball out on a budget 1798 01:36:13.279 --> 01:36:14.800 and like get named brand they were. 1799 01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:19.880 They went to freaking Get one or something like that, 1800 01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:20.199 you know. 1801 01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:25.760 Ten cent packets. Oh my god, look at this, Look 1802 01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:28.880 at this. I'm offended by this. 1803 01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:33.359 I actually love that marketing. I love that. Uh that 1804 01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:34.479 looks actually pretty cool. 1805 01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:39.319 We got to click on the grape one though. There 1806 01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:42.119 you go. That's what killed all the people in Jonestown, 1807 01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:50.800 right there, flavor everyone. Henry Lee Lucas did say that 1808 01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:53.720 he knew Jim Jones and that Jim Jones was just 1809 01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:56.520 part of his c I a big mind control thing, 1810 01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:59.159 that it was just another project they were working on. 1811 01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:03.039 There was another death cult out of I think it 1812 01:37:03.119 --> 01:37:08.560 was Japan. It was called the Doomsday Cult, and they 1813 01:37:08.840 --> 01:37:11.880 took sar and nerve gas on trains, and they were 1814 01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:16.079 like trying to like poison people. And they rated this 1815 01:37:16.279 --> 01:37:22.000 compound for the doomsday cult. They had military helicopters, they 1816 01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:26.159 had mind control devices that they were developing, They had 1817 01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:30.880 weapons grade anthrax, andy Bola virus, and they had all 1818 01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:33.479 this stuff. And it's like, you have to wonder where 1819 01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:38.159 are these fucking cults getting this fucking shit? Because it's 1820 01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:40.560 like I said to you earlier. Let me, let's just 1821 01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:43.000 say I want to start a cult tomorrow. How easy 1822 01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:45.359 is it going to be for me to get weapons 1823 01:37:45.439 --> 01:37:51.560 grade anthrax, any bowl of virus, a military helicopter, mine 1824 01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:55.279 control devices, saw and nerve gas. Like okay, yeah, let's 1825 01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:58.199 just put it on this fucking Sam's Club list and 1826 01:37:58.279 --> 01:38:00.000 let me just go right into the store and get it. 1827 01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:02.359 Like where are they getting this stuff? You guys? 1828 01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:04.840 If you tell the FBI your trends, they'll just give 1829 01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:05.399 all that to you. 1830 01:38:06.359 --> 01:38:09.720 There you go, starting a trans group. 1831 01:38:11.399 --> 01:38:11.760 I said. 1832 01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:18.399 Magdalena was was probably secretly trained. That's why she had 1833 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:21.039 a thing for Selena. She was trying to stick her. 1834 01:38:21.560 --> 01:38:28.680 Oh not like her. Oh that's that's that's awesome. 1835 01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:31.279 I don't know, I don't know it up. 1836 01:38:31.840 --> 01:38:35.880 She's a fucking asshole. Though if this story isn't even conspiratorial, 1837 01:38:35.960 --> 01:38:39.039 I still think she's a fucking asshole. It's really interesting. 1838 01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:41.479 I had never heard it before. It blew my mind. Actually, 1839 01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:45.159 I'm so glad you researched this topic because it's crazy. 1840 01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:48.399 You know, I don't want to give a shout out 1841 01:38:48.439 --> 01:38:50.479 to Blaze. I'll definitely give a shout out to Blaze, 1842 01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:53.960 you know, with his with his comic book, and yeah, 1843 01:38:53.960 --> 01:38:58.039 he's doing a kickstarter for that and it's fantastic, awesome. 1844 01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:01.079 Yeah, I'll include a link for that. And I think 1845 01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:02.960 I can say this for all of us here, well 1846 01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:05.600 even Rye. Probably at this point, I do think there's 1847 01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:08.119 something questionable about this whole case. You know, this doesn't 1848 01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:11.399 seem to be much I guess to talk about, and 1849 01:39:11.520 --> 01:39:13.960 I don't know, just because of other situations in the past. 1850 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:16.720 They do wonder was there some sort of three letter 1851 01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:20.479 agency involvement or some structure to it a little bit 1852 01:39:20.479 --> 01:39:23.760 more than we knew about. But thank you, yeah, but 1853 01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:26.479 thank you all for coming on. I thought that was amazing. 1854 01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:29.600 Everybody had great stuff to add Rye. That was really good. 1855 01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:33.039 You presented that amazingly thank you so much. I appreciate 1856 01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:37.359 it before we have you plug it real quick, uh, JJ, 1857 01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:39.439 let everybody know where they can find you stuff again. 1858 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:44.359 JJ, Van says to Operations GCD, Nick, appreciate the invite, 1859 01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:48.159 Lisa Joy it great, great conversation, Ry, Great to meet you, 1860 01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:51.359 and this is a very intriguing tale. I definitely got 1861 01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:53.039 my wheels turning on a number of these topics. Here 1862 01:39:53.079 --> 01:39:54.960 to look again too, more for sure cool. 1863 01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:58.119 Thank you very much, JJ and Julia real quick, let 1864 01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:00.439 everybody know where they can find your amazing sh as well. 1865 01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:04.800 Thank you. I am the host of Cosmic Peach podcasts. 1866 01:40:04.840 --> 01:40:08.720 It's available wherever you listen to podcasts. And great to 1867 01:40:08.760 --> 01:40:11.479 meet you, Ry. I love someone who can present a 1868 01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:14.920 topic start to finish like you do. It's really entertaining 1869 01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:17.840 and I it's it's a skill not a lot of 1870 01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:21.960 people have actually, and I admire that. But thanks for 1871 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:24.399 having me on, Nick. This was a great conversation. I 1872 01:40:24.479 --> 01:40:28.680 learned a lot and I'm looking forward to coming on again. 1873 01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:32.399 As soon as I saw the actual number right. 1874 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:35.640 Yes, yes as an occult reject. 1875 01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:39.119 Yes, like I said, as soon as I really kind 1876 01:40:39.119 --> 01:40:41.439 of started listening to it, I was like I know 1877 01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:44.159 Julie would be into this. It sounds so much like Adulfo, 1878 01:40:44.399 --> 01:40:46.640 like I really thought. Yeah, I was thinking about that 1879 01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:50.239 a lot. And Lisa, thank you so much for coming on. 1880 01:40:50.439 --> 01:40:53.159 I really appreciate it. Yes, is there anything that you 1881 01:40:53.239 --> 01:40:54.560 want to plug? 1882 01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:55.520 Sure? 1883 01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:58.279 Yes, thank you everybody, Thank you, Ry. 1884 01:40:58.680 --> 01:41:01.640 I really really enjoyed this story and like everybody said, 1885 01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:06.319 contributed definitely something totally suspect. And I do agree with 1886 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:09.600 Nick that the Alphabet Boys are probably somehow. 1887 01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:11.239 Somewhere not too far away from any of this. 1888 01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:16.960 But I would like to plug our website. 1889 01:41:17.079 --> 01:41:19.399 It's Occult Research Institute. 1890 01:41:19.039 --> 01:41:21.640 Dot org and we have a lot of contributors that 1891 01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:23.319 contribute written pieces. 1892 01:41:23.600 --> 01:41:25.880 So if you are more of a reader. 1893 01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:29.600 And would like to consume reading some of this amazing 1894 01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:31.840 copics that come out of the Occult Rejects, please give 1895 01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:36.479 us a gander over there at Occult Research Institute dot org. 1896 01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:40.880 Awesome, Thank you so much. I appreciate that. And Roy, 1897 01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:44.520 let everybody know they can find your amazing work again. 1898 01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:46.840 First of all, I just want to say thanks for 1899 01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:48.920 having me on this was This is fantastic and you 1900 01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.159 guys are all welcoming and it's nice to be in 1901 01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:53.479 a similar crowd, you know, of everyone who has the 1902 01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:59.399 same like minded who understands what's going on in questions everything. 1903 01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:01.760 That's what I say is we have to question everything 1904 01:42:01.800 --> 01:42:06.199 that you know, It's been crazy that these last couple 1905 01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:09.079 of years or five six years, you know, we are 1906 01:42:09.439 --> 01:42:12.039 frowned upon and made fun of for researching and looking 1907 01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:14.840 into things ourselves. We're told to leave it to the experts, 1908 01:42:14.920 --> 01:42:17.319 leave it to these people. Don't think for yourself, you know, 1909 01:42:17.399 --> 01:42:19.800 sit down on your ass on the TV and watch 1910 01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:22.880 it and don't do anything. So it's fantastic to meet 1911 01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:25.039 some people who who think the way I do. And 1912 01:42:25.079 --> 01:42:27.560 it's like, let's look into the stuff further, Let's go deeper. 1913 01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:30.199 As soon as I'm told one thing on TV, you know, 1914 01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:32.479 it's like, okay, well let's start looking the other way 1915 01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:35.960 and figure out what it really is going on. So again, 1916 01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:40.760 I'm the host of Codega's Codex of Curiosities. I drop 1917 01:42:40.840 --> 01:42:43.600 an episode once a week, sometimes twice a week, kind 1918 01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:45.560 of like you guys, I'll drop a bonus episode, but 1919 01:42:45.560 --> 01:42:50.840 it's usually on Sundays, and I can be fine YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, 1920 01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:55.520 Apple everywhere else, Facebook, Instagram, that can hit me up 1921 01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:58.960 just like you did, Nick and contact me reach out. Yes, 1922 01:42:59.079 --> 01:42:59.720 that's about it. 1923 01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:03.119 You definitely go check out here show like again, like 1924 01:43:03.199 --> 01:43:06.760 I said before, tons and tons of different types of topics, 1925 01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:12.560 you know, and yeah, true crime, cult, paranormal, bigfoot, Jack 1926 01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:17.239 the Ripper, you know, great stuff. Uh yeah, and again, 1927 01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:19.680 thank you all for coming on. I really appreciate it. 1928 01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:22.119 That was an awesome chat. And again, this is a 1929 01:43:22.159 --> 01:43:24.960 really really weird one and you don't hear too many 1930 01:43:24.960 --> 01:43:27.600 people talking about it, so I wanted to cover it. 1931 01:43:28.359 --> 01:43:30.560 And that's the end of another Recult Rejects and until 1932 01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:33.239 the next one, everybody be well later.