WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.480 In company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. 2 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:06.519 Now here's Nick coffee. 3 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:10.759 Hey, better late than never, five oh eight. I'm sorry 4 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.080 five oh nine as we get the five o'clock hours started, 5 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:14.800 but I'm just happy that we're here and we're on 6 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:17.239 the air. We had a rough start today with connection 7 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:19.760 issues and we've been able to make it work, and 8 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:23.120 we were rolling along and it's not ideal, but hey, 9 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:25.839 we make it work. And you know, there was a 10 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:27.960 moment right when the show started two hours ago that 11 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:28.960 I was thinking, you know what, I don't know what 12 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:30.879 we're gonna be able to do, but look, we believe 13 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:33.719 in the power positivity. And here we are, and we've 14 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:35.840 got about fifty minutes left with you before we get 15 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:37.799 out of here, so let's make the most of the 16 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:40.159 time that we have. It's coffee and company. As you 17 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.159 likely know, we are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports 18 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:45.280 Talk seven ninety and obviously the NFL Draft has been 19 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:47.240 a big part of the conversation today. That'll continue to 20 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:48.719 be the case. But I do want to get back 21 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:50.799 into some basketball stuff coming up here shortly, just because 22 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:55.359 as James Scott has decided to move on. I guess 23 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:59.799 we'll know. I don't know. Maybe there's no deadline from here, 24 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.159 there's no way to know, Like, all right, let's wait 25 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:04.000 till this date and then we'll find out. Is he's 26 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:07.400 still considering Louisville, his Louisville still pursuing him, And just 27 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:10.400 given what I know about James, I mean, I wouldn't 28 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:12.799 be shocked if there's anything public. I think maybe if 29 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.359 he has an agent, he probably does, maybe the agent 30 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.159 will be able to, you know, put out there to 31 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.480 one of the college basketball reporters. As far as what's 32 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:22.439 going on in his recruitment, I think that's already happened 33 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:24.439 to an extent. We know NC State and even Texas 34 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:28.359 Tech I think is getting involved. So I still at 35 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:30.120 this point in bringing him up as if like there's 36 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.120 maybe a chance that he decides to come back. But 37 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:37.680 maybe I'm completely wrong in that. I mean, I don't 38 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.480 think we know for certain what led to him deciding 39 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.400 to want to hit the portal. I mean, I talked 40 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:44.280 a lot about it yesterday. We don't necessarily need to 41 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:46.120 reset it. But you know, James is one of those 42 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.400 guys with his relationship with Pat Kelsey and just seemingly 43 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:52.519 him being a guy that is content in whatever you 44 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:54.959 need him to do on your team. I just I 45 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:56.920 never would have expected him to transfer, but you know, 46 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:59.519 he's a reminder that anybody can transfer it any time. 47 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:03.079 So therefore, or if players do it, we shouldn't be surprised. 48 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:05.079 So we've had a couple of people ask kind of 49 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:07.120 the same question of the last couple of days. Do 50 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:09.800 I believe it's more so based off of money or role? 51 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:13.479 And again, I don't know. You know, nothing would really 52 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:15.639 shock me with James other than him being a guy 53 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.879 that's like, you know, letting his ego get in the way, 54 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:22.120 and he's bothered that Casin's coming back and might take 55 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:24.759 a big chunk of minutes from him, or maybe he's 56 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:26.879 hurt Sonny for who's gonna be a big factor. Like 57 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:29.400 to me, he's just never really seemed to be someone 58 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.000 that is worried about those kind of things. And look, 59 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:34.080 it's human nature to want to be wanted and want 60 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:36.080 to have a big role. And you know, nobody, I 61 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:38.599 don't care if you're the most selfless teammate in the world. 62 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:40.560 You don't want to sit the bench, You want to 63 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:43.159 play right like, but you know, in props to those 64 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:45.639 that can embrace whatever role comes their way, and James 65 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.639 has always been somebody that I thought, you know, was 66 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:50.240 one of those guys, and it's rare to find. And 67 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.599 I think, after talking about it at length yesterday, maybe 68 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:55.960 I was just wrong. Maybe he is somebody that that 69 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:57.719 that you know, does want to be more of a 70 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.400 focal point. But I also think he you know, what 71 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:02.360 makes me still hesitate to think that that's the case 72 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:05.439 with James is that one of the strengths about him 73 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:07.520 is that he's, like everybody keeps telling me, and I'm 74 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:09.520 not disagreeing that he's one dimensional. He's just a dunker 75 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.560 and all that is, you know, all that is true. However, 76 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:18.560 you know, there's something to be said about a guy 77 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:20.879 that is content with just knowing that this is what 78 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:22.919 I do and this is what I'm gonna stick with. 79 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:25.199 You want to work on your game, you want to develop. 80 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:28.120 But at times where James Scott looked like a walking 81 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:32.120 turnover or you know, a real concern when he had 82 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:33.879 the ball on offense, you got to keep in mind 83 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:35.960 he was never really supposed to be in those situations. 84 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.039 And it wasn't even because like he was trying to 85 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:40.360 take over and go one on one. It's because when 86 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.080 you're out there playing thirty plus minutes a game and 87 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.960 you're that you know, you're that that much of a 88 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.240 non threat offensively unless you're dunking the ball. You know 89 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.560 you're gonna find yourself at spots where, okay, shot clock's 90 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:53.400 running low, like you've got to do something, And that's 91 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.879 where he looked like he didn't belong at times. So again, 92 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:57.919 I don't know what it is that led to him leaving. 93 00:03:57.919 --> 00:03:59.960 Maybe it's money, maybe it's role, maybe it's both. Maybe 94 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.280 it's wanting to be close to home. But you know, 95 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:04.560 Louisville's going to have to figure out something to look 96 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.479 if they didn't add any anybody else, I mean I'd 97 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:10.039 be surprised, but I also wouldn't act like, Okay, we 98 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:13.199 need to really readjust what expectations are. I mean, Jamescott'll 99 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.800 be missed. But again, the production is not something that 100 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:17.759 you're going to have a tough time making up for 101 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:23.199 because just simply by bringing in Sonny, a healthy Ali Khalifa, 102 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:25.759 a healthy case in prior, that alone is going to 103 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.399 give you way more production than what you're losing with 104 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:34.360 James Scott leaving and if others can kind of collectively 105 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:37.639 work together to give you, you know, what he gave you 106 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:39.319 as far as being a really good screen or a 107 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.199 guy that can convert above the rim. You know, I 108 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:43.360 don't know if that's Sonny. I think Cason is a 109 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:45.680 guy who's clearly athletic, but he's not. He's not James 110 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:48.319 Scott as far as just the length and athleticism overall. 111 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:51.360 So we'll see what they end up doing as far 112 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:54.160 as filling out the roster. But yeah, there's still some 113 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:55.480 good players out there, and I want to make sure 114 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.160 I didn't get to it yesterday, so I promise you 115 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:58.560 will do it before we're not out of time. Today 116 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.360 there are better players of it in the portal than 117 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:02.839 what I thought. 118 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:03.120 Now. 119 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:07.319 Getting a late start now to try to obtain those 120 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:09.839 players would probably be an uphill battle for you. But 121 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:11.560 you never know, right, I mean, things change, and look, 122 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:13.759 here here's what I think we're going to see. Maybe 123 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.399 not this year, but certainly over time. There are certain 124 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:20.240 players who have who've held out and you know, been 125 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.519 viewed as some of the best players in the portal, 126 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.800 and they just assume, Okay, look, somebody's going to give 127 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.519 me what I want, because I mean, I'm that good 128 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.240 and they have such a desperate need for what I do. 129 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.279 But you know, like PJ. Haggert is at his name 130 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:37.279 of the kid from Memphis, like he wants four million dollars. 131 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:40.000 Here we are a week into him being in the portal, 132 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:42.040 I don't I've not heard of any team that's willing 133 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:43.800 to come close to that. I mean, not that I 134 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:46.759 would know, but like you would. All the reporting on 135 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:48.720 him is that a lot of schools are just backing 136 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:51.160 off because they don't they can't justify the spend, and 137 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.680 they also don't like the idea of letting a guy know, hey, 138 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:55.079 if you come here, yes you will be our point 139 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.240 guard regardless of what happens. Like that's just not that's 140 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:00.000 just who would do that? Right? Also? Are j Luise? 141 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:02.720 I mean, he was an All American caliber player for 142 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:04.439 Rick Potino at Saint John's. He was one of the 143 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:06.639 first players I saw that hit the portal. And of 144 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:08.959 course he's a big name that everybody would want. But 145 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:11.160 I haven't, you know, And just because I haven't heard 146 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:13.519 much about his recruitment doesn't mean that he's you know, 147 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.839 that he's he's having a tough time finding suitors. But like, 148 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:18.439 I think some of these guys that are holding out 149 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.279 this late in the game, I think it's because they 150 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.199 have yet to get the money they want and they're 151 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:25.879 holding out hope that somebody offers. But you know, if 152 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:27.800 you don't get the money that you want, you're gonna 153 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:30.480 have to lower your ask or you won't play. Like 154 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:32.160 that's just that's just what it comes down to. And 155 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:33.959 there was a guy last year that did it, but 156 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:36.439 he wasn't as big of a name, but Aj Store 157 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:39.360 was actually the Chucky he burned back court made at Wisconsin, 158 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:41.519 and he he was I mean, he was better than 159 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.199 Chucky as far as statistics, as far as production. In fact, 160 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.279 Chucky had a pretty good sophomore season, kind of a 161 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.480 breakout year. And then next year Aj Store transferred in 162 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:51.920 from I believe Saint John's and he kind of, you know, 163 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:54.360 he became the lead guard for them. He transferred to 164 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.000 he transferred and wanted to go to Kansas and he 165 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:58.879 you know, I don't know if it was his representation 166 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:00.800 or who it was, but he was pretty clear he 167 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.639 wanted north of a million dollars and you know, kind 168 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:07.360 of played out bad for him because he didn't get 169 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:09.759 I mean, he didn't get what he wanted or close 170 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:11.360 to it, and he ended up going to Kansas for 171 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.439 way less than what he intended. And then you know 172 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:17.279 he also had like a very underwhelming year where he 173 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:19.959 was like their eighth ninth man. So you know, there 174 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:21.480 could be what I'm trying to get to is there 175 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:25.279 could be a scenario where you've got guys that are 176 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:29.639 holding out for more money and you know you haven't 177 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.120 even pursued him because you knew one you couldn't afford 178 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.680 him to even if you could, you wouldn't spend what 179 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:36.959 they want to be paid. Well, then they change, you know, 180 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:38.839 their agency's going to tell them, look, we got to reset, 181 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:40.279 we got to reset the market. It's not what we 182 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.199 thought it was. And that could put you in position 183 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:44.439 to maybe, you know, get involved with the player that 184 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:46.600 you felt like wasn't realistic. So you really never know 185 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.759 how it's all going to play out, which makes it exciting. 186 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.519 But also you know, for Louisville, I think two days 187 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:53.560 ago when we got the news about Casein, I was 188 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:55.720 of the opinion, all right, anybody else you get as 189 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:57.600 an added bonus, I like the roster as it is, 190 00:07:57.639 --> 00:07:59.079 I feel pretty good about it, and I still do 191 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.120 feel good about it. But James Scott is somebody that, 192 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.160 you know, let's be honest, as much as you don't 193 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:04.959 as much as some people don't think that he's going 194 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.000 to be a real loss and that you think that 195 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.199 Wolves will be able to make up without him, and 196 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.480 you may be right, I don't. I don't believe anybody 197 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:15.240 who was of the opinion of, yeah, who cares if 198 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:17.680 he leaves? I mean maybe now you think that, but 199 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:19.600 I don't think there was anybody on the team as 200 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:22.319 far as returning players that played last year that like 201 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:24.839 we were thinking, yeah, they're not good enough to play here. 202 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:26.920 I would imagine they're going to transfer, and that's best 203 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:29.519 for everybody. I mean, look both, here's the reality the 204 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.039 Portal has shown us already. No matter who you are, 205 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.399 you're replaceable. Like clearly you're gonna look like if you're 206 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:36.480 in the mid may Oh, let me back up, if 207 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.200 you're in the mid majors, it's a different story because, like 208 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.600 you know, you have guys that realize after a couple 209 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:43.399 of years at the MAC or in the Sun Belt 210 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.320 that they're better than their league, and you know, the 211 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:47.879 likelihood of you being able to get a guy in 212 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:49.919 the portal that can replace what you lose. I mean, 213 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:53.120 that's as that coach we played the sound a couple 214 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.279 weeks ago, who's at Norfolk State. I mean, they're not 215 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:57.120 even really mid major, but as coach said it best, 216 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:00.480 they are absolutely the new Jucos because they have recruit 217 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:04.039 players to come in and you know, they have to 218 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.159 sell them. Come here for a year and we'll let 219 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.600 you have the keys to the to the car and 220 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:10.480 you can show what you can do and move on 221 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:12.000 to the higher level. I mean, that's got to be 222 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:14.879 your new pitch to get these players, because that's just 223 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:17.080 kind of how things are. That's how things operate now. 224 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:21.519 But overall, I mean, there have been examples of teams 225 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.600 that lost some like for example, Chucky Heburn and AJ 226 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:27.360 Store left Wisconsin last year and it looked like Greg 227 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.879 Guard was done, like how can he recover? And Wisconsin 228 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.279 they weren't elite, but they had I mean, they had 229 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:35.639 a really good regular season and it wasn't as if 230 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:36.879 they were, you know, one of the top teams in 231 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:39.480 the country. But I'm pretty sure with all the players 232 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:42.919 they lost and you know who they added, nobody thought 233 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:44.240 highly of them. I think they were picked to be 234 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:45.919 one of the worst teams in the Big Ten, and 235 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:47.279 they were one of the better teams in the Big 236 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:48.600 Ten for a good stretch of the season. Now, they 237 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.559 ended up getting that kid from Tanji from Colorado State, 238 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.320 and that's another example. I don't think they had or 239 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:55.919 anybody had a clue that that guy was going to 240 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:57.000 be as good as he was. He was an All 241 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:00.440 American caliber player for them. So, you know, I get 242 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.720 the overreaction one way or the other about landing players 243 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:05.480 who you think they're going to put you in a 244 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:07.759 position to win a national championship. And I get the 245 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:09.799 reaction of losing a player that you never thought would 246 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:11.919 leave and you didn't want to lose. But man, I 247 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:14.240 think there's been enough evidence that'll tell you this stuff 248 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:15.879 will all work itself out, you know what I mean. 249 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:19.799 Like it's you know, there's really not many in college 250 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:22.679 basketball at the high level. If you're a good program 251 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.919 with resources, yeah you may take a net loss, but 252 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:27.440 like it ain't the end of the world, Like you'll 253 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:31.360 if you are the program that you know has the resources, 254 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:34.480 meaning money, you've got a coach who's had some level 255 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.080 of success. You should be able to, you know, to 256 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:39.159 get by, and you know you don't want to just 257 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:40.600 get by, you want to win at a high level. 258 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.200 But you can. I mean, look at Carolina. I mean, 259 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.039 I know they're coming off a bad season. Like Carolina's 260 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.039 losing five star McDonald's Americans players that are good. I mean, 261 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:53.519 I think that means anybody can lose players. So anyways, 262 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:55.320 it's Coffee and Company. Where feel about? Thornton's here on 263 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:57.080 Sports Talk seven and let's get back into the NFL 264 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:59.720 draft here, because as I'm looking here on the television, 265 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:04.919 they're showing Jackson Dart highlights. It'll miss. And I mean, 266 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:07.240 I won't claim to be a quarterback guru, right, I 267 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:08.840 won't claim to be able to know who's going to 268 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:10.960 be who's gonna be great, who's you know, who's going 269 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:14.679 to be a bust? But he right now. And it's 270 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:17.080 not like I have a loyalty to Daniel Jeremiah, But 271 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:19.720 the first NFL mock draft that popped up for me 272 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:23.240 here was from NFL dot com and that's where Daniel 273 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.120 Jeremira works for the NFL Network, and his mock draft 274 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:30.159 as of earlier today, he has let's just go quarterbacks 275 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:33.559 real quick. He has cam Ward number one. I think 276 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:35.639 it's pretty clear that cam Ward is going to be 277 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:38.399 the first player taken in this draft. And then after that, 278 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:40.639 I'll just give you the top five Travis Hunter to 279 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:44.320 the Browns, number two, Abdual Carter the edge from Penn 280 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:47.200 State going number three to the Giants, and then the 281 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.320 Patriots taken the offensive tackle Will Campbell from LSU, And 282 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.960 the fifth pick is now Ashton gen Z, which I mean, 283 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.000 I talked about it yesterday, him being somebody that I 284 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:59.399 was just surprised to see being projected to go so 285 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.639 early because I think he's terrible. But I just think 286 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:06.200 like using a top five, top first round pick on 287 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.559 a running back to me just kind of seems like 288 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.440 you're you're behind the times. But then again, I mean, 289 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:14.559 they're on a rookie deal. If you if you mean, 290 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:16.399 it may be the best time to take them if 291 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:20.120 they're that good, right, because and this is just this 292 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.799 is sad to say, but it's the reality. Given the 293 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:25.120 way running backs have have kind of played out in 294 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:26.759 the NFL in the last decade or maybe in a 295 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:29.039 little bit a little bit longer than that. The likelihood 296 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:31.440 of a running back being worthy of a of a 297 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.159 of a max deal off the rookie contract. It's just 298 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:38.799 not it's just not realistic, you know what I mean. Like, so, yeah, 299 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:41.000 you'll pay him on his rookie deal, but that even 300 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:42.720 if he's great for you for a couple of years, 301 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:45.759 maybe three years. You know, there's history that says that 302 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:47.360 the majority of the guys who didn't get the big 303 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.679 contract that are drafted early, it's not a good investment. 304 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.960 So you know, you could maximize the running back in 305 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.480 his prime years and just know that we probably won't 306 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:58.639 be needing to give him a max contract to where 307 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:00.639 we've invested an insane amount of mine. I mean again, 308 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:02.600 maybe you do it and it works out, because there 309 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:05.639 are some examples. I mean Sakwon Barkley, I mean, I 310 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:07.519 don't even know did he get a second deal with 311 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:09.519 the Giants. I kind of feel like he did, but 312 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:10.799 I could be wrong. Like I felt like he came 313 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:13.600 out of college a long time ago. Either way, they 314 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.159 chose not to pay him though, and that's why he 315 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:17.720 ended up in New York, right or in Philly? Right? 316 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:20.039 Yeah, I think there is a rookie option on him 317 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.519 since he got drafted in the top ten, I think. 318 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:27.279 Okay, so you know, for another example, who was the 319 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:30.080 I mean, Zeke got a new contract that was a 320 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.480 long time ago. But like, and there's not even many 321 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:34.600 examples to give you because more because let's be honest, 322 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:36.399 a lot of quarterbacks don't or I'm sorry, a lot 323 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:39.159 of running backs don't get drafted that early anymore. So 324 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.480 I mean, Gitti's good, trust me. I'm not acting like 325 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:45.080 he's not worthy. But I just think the running back position, 326 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.639 while I think that it's somebody that you know, put 327 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:51.240 it this way, if you were drafting somebody in the 328 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.919 top five, which according to this that's what would happen. 329 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.279 If that's who the Jags take more often than not, 330 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:00.759 the best case scenario is that it's somebody that is 331 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:04.480 going to be your franchise player for as long as possible. 332 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:07.960 I think maybe the strategy here would be he might be, 333 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.000 but that's look, even if he's great, running backs just 334 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:14.039 don't last as long in the NFL anymore. So you know, 335 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:16.679 maybe the Raiders who might take him, or maybe the 336 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.240 Jags they're taking him, thinking hey, this guy's special. For 337 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.240 the next few years, he won't be a long term piece, 338 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:25.200 because that's just you know, running backs aren't that anymore. 339 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.399 I mean, again, Derrick Henry, somebody's already mentioning him on 340 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.279 the text line. But you know, Derrick Henry's one of one, right, 341 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:33.759 I mean, who would you compare Derrick Henry to as 342 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.720 a running back? I mean, guy's built like a mack truck. 343 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:39.559 So you know, the elite of the elite. You still 344 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:41.600 see those guys play longer than most, but the vast 345 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.759 majority of the running backs that enter the NFL out 346 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.840 of college, I mean, they just don't have the same 347 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.759 It's almost like it's a totally different type of job 348 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.559 than every other position in the NFL. And you know, 349 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:55.360 I hate that for these guys. But I also I 350 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:57.320 also understand, like, if you are in charge of an 351 00:14:57.399 --> 00:14:59.639 NFL franchise, you got to make you know, you got 352 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.320 to make funinancial decisions that puts your franchise in the 353 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:06.919 best situation for the future, and giving guaranteed money over 354 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.919 many years to running backs has been proven to be 355 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:13.519 more often than not a waste of money. So anyways, 356 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:15.679 back to the mock draft year, the next quarterback to 357 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.440 be taken, according to Daniel Jeremiah here at the NFL 358 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:21.559 network is in fact the guy we just mentioned who 359 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:25.840 is Jackson Dart. So the the let's see they have 360 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:28.679 him going, well, okay, here we go. So the Giants 361 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.679 have the eighteenth pick. But this is what I don't 362 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:35.399 know in this mock draft, and you would know more 363 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.559 than me, Austin here in like he said, projected trade 364 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.679 with the Seahawks. He's predicting that that trade happens right, like, 365 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.519 there's not already a trade in place, right okay, because 366 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:48.919 that's what gets what gets confusing for me because I'll 367 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:51.360 never forget it. This is the one that just comes 368 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:53.080 to mind. But it wasn't new. But when Donovan Mitchell 369 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.960 got drafted, everybody knew that he was going to the 370 00:15:57.039 --> 00:15:59.879 Utah Jazz, but he had to wear the hat that 371 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.799 was the Minnesota Timberwolves because it was their pick and 372 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:04.200 it was being traded. I'm like, if you already know 373 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:06.679 the trade is in place, like for years you've known 374 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.080 that pick now belongs to this team, Like, why would 375 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:11.799 you do that? Anyways, long story short, he's projecting that 376 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.240 the Seahawks trade up at the eighteenth pick to get 377 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.240 Jackson Dart, which maybe that happens but I'll bring that 378 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:20.279 up because this is this would be an all time 379 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:21.960 NFL story. I mean, again, there's not a whole lot 380 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.120 of drama to it. But if you are a Giants 381 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:26.240 fan and you have just been wondering, you know you've 382 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:29.720 been you've been sleepless in recent days, wondering you know 383 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:32.200 who your franchise is gonna draft because you wanted to 384 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:34.799 get turned around and your franchise has been a joke. 385 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.159 And then you know you might have gotten tipped off 386 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.240 by what's going to happen because the gm his teenage 387 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.960 son accidentally posted well I don't know about accident, but 388 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:46.879 he leaked it the night before the draft. But the 389 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:51.480 Giants were drafting this young man, Jackson Dart. So if, 390 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:54.840 in fact, if the Giants draft him, regardless of if 391 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:58.120 they're trading him or they just want him, I mean, 392 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:01.559 in the end, it there's really no net loss, right, 393 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:03.679 it's just a bad look that it got leaked that way. 394 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.279 But also I mean it just it's another sign again 395 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:10.640 overall Jackson Dark may be great, like maybe he's the 396 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.759 guy who saves the Giants, but it's also so New 397 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.720 York Giants, meaning that they don't make good decisions. They're 398 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:19.039 not well run despite being, you know, the team in 399 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.759 the biggest market in America. Like that, everybody found out 400 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.440 who they're picking the night before, when usually this stuff 401 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.640