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Speaker 2: Talk seven ninety and obviously the NFL Draft has been
Speaker 2: a big part of the conversation today. That'll continue to
Speaker 2: be the case. But I do want to get back
Speaker 2: into some basketball stuff coming up here shortly, just because
Speaker 2: as James Scott has decided to move on. I guess
Speaker 2: we'll know. I don't know. Maybe there's no deadline from here,
Speaker 2: there's no way to know, Like, all right, let's wait
Speaker 2: till this date and then we'll find out. Is he's
Speaker 2: still considering Louisville, his Louisville still pursuing him, And just
Speaker 2: given what I know about James, I mean, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be shocked if there's anything public. I think maybe if
Speaker 2: he has an agent, he probably does, maybe the agent
Speaker 2: will be able to, you know, put out there to
Speaker 2: one of the college basketball reporters. As far as what's
Speaker 2: going on in his recruitment, I think that's already happened
Speaker 2: to an extent. We know NC State and even Texas
Speaker 2: Tech I think is getting involved. So I still at
Speaker 2: this point in bringing him up as if like there's
Speaker 2: maybe a chance that he decides to come back. But
Speaker 2: maybe I'm completely wrong in that. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: think we know for certain what led to him deciding
Speaker 2: to want to hit the portal. I mean, I talked
Speaker 2: a lot about it yesterday. We don't necessarily need to
Speaker 2: reset it. But you know, James is one of those
Speaker 2: guys with his relationship with Pat Kelsey and just seemingly
Speaker 2: him being a guy that is content in whatever you
Speaker 2: need him to do on your team. I just I
Speaker 2: never would have expected him to transfer, but you know,
Speaker 2: he's a reminder that anybody can transfer it any time.
Speaker 2: So therefore, or if players do it, we shouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 2: So we've had a couple of people ask kind of
Speaker 2: the same question of the last couple of days. Do
Speaker 2: I believe it's more so based off of money or role?
Speaker 2: And again, I don't know. You know, nothing would really
Speaker 2: shock me with James other than him being a guy
Speaker 2: that's like, you know, letting his ego get in the way,
Speaker 2: and he's bothered that Casin's coming back and might take
Speaker 2: a big chunk of minutes from him, or maybe he's
Speaker 2: hurt Sonny for who's gonna be a big factor. Like
Speaker 2: to me, he's just never really seemed to be someone
Speaker 2: that is worried about those kind of things. And look,
Speaker 2: it's human nature to want to be wanted and want
Speaker 2: to have a big role. And you know, nobody, I
Speaker 2: don't care if you're the most selfless teammate in the world.
Speaker 2: You don't want to sit the bench, You want to
Speaker 2: play right like, but you know, in props to those
Speaker 2: that can embrace whatever role comes their way, and James
Speaker 2: has always been somebody that I thought, you know, was
Speaker 2: one of those guys, and it's rare to find. And
Speaker 2: I think, after talking about it at length yesterday, maybe
Speaker 2: I was just wrong. Maybe he is somebody that that
Speaker 2: that you know, does want to be more of a
Speaker 2: focal point. But I also think he you know, what
Speaker 2: makes me still hesitate to think that that's the case
Speaker 2: with James is that one of the strengths about him
Speaker 2: is that he's, like everybody keeps telling me, and I'm
Speaker 2: not disagreeing that he's one dimensional. He's just a dunker
Speaker 2: and all that is, you know, all that is true. However,
Speaker 2: you know, there's something to be said about a guy
Speaker 2: that is content with just knowing that this is what
Speaker 2: I do and this is what I'm gonna stick with.
Speaker 2: You want to work on your game, you want to develop.
Speaker 2: But at times where James Scott looked like a walking
Speaker 2: turnover or you know, a real concern when he had
Speaker 2: the ball on offense, you got to keep in mind
Speaker 2: he was never really supposed to be in those situations.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't even because like he was trying to
Speaker 2: take over and go one on one. It's because when
Speaker 2: you're out there playing thirty plus minutes a game and
Speaker 2: you're that you know, you're that that much of a
Speaker 2: non threat offensively unless you're dunking the ball. You know
Speaker 2: you're gonna find yourself at spots where, okay, shot clock's
Speaker 2: running low, like you've got to do something, And that's
Speaker 2: where he looked like he didn't belong at times. So again,
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is that led to him leaving.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's money, maybe it's role, maybe it's both. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's wanting to be close to home. But you know,
Speaker 2: Louisville's going to have to figure out something to look
Speaker 2: if they didn't add any anybody else, I mean I'd
Speaker 2: be surprised, but I also wouldn't act like, Okay, we
Speaker 2: need to really readjust what expectations are. I mean, Jamescott'll
Speaker 2: be missed. But again, the production is not something that
Speaker 2: you're going to have a tough time making up for
Speaker 2: because just simply by bringing in Sonny, a healthy Ali Khalifa,
Speaker 2: a healthy case in prior, that alone is going to
Speaker 2: give you way more production than what you're losing with
Speaker 2: James Scott leaving and if others can kind of collectively
Speaker 2: work together to give you, you know, what he gave you
Speaker 2: as far as being a really good screen or a
Speaker 2: guy that can convert above the rim. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's Sonny. I think Cason is a
Speaker 2: guy who's clearly athletic, but he's not. He's not James
Speaker 2: Scott as far as just the length and athleticism overall.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what they end up doing as far
Speaker 2: as filling out the roster. But yeah, there's still some
Speaker 2: good players out there, and I want to make sure
Speaker 2: I didn't get to it yesterday, so I promise you
Speaker 2: will do it before we're not out of time. Today
Speaker 2: there are better players of it in the portal than
Speaker 2: what I thought.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Getting a late start now to try to obtain those
Speaker 2: players would probably be an uphill battle for you. But
Speaker 2: you never know, right, I mean, things change, and look,
Speaker 2: here here's what I think we're going to see. Maybe
Speaker 2: not this year, but certainly over time. There are certain
Speaker 2: players who have who've held out and you know, been
Speaker 2: viewed as some of the best players in the portal,
Speaker 2: and they just assume, Okay, look, somebody's going to give
Speaker 2: me what I want, because I mean, I'm that good
Speaker 2: and they have such a desperate need for what I do.
Speaker 2: But you know, like PJ. Haggert is at his name
Speaker 2: of the kid from Memphis, like he wants four million dollars.
Speaker 2: Here we are a week into him being in the portal,
Speaker 2: I don't I've not heard of any team that's willing
Speaker 2: to come close to that. I mean, not that I
Speaker 2: would know, but like you would. All the reporting on
Speaker 2: him is that a lot of schools are just backing
Speaker 2: off because they don't they can't justify the spend, and
Speaker 2: they also don't like the idea of letting a guy know, hey,
Speaker 2: if you come here, yes you will be our point
Speaker 2: guard regardless of what happens. Like that's just not that's
Speaker 2: just who would do that? Right? Also? Are j Luise?
Speaker 2: I mean, he was an All American caliber player for
Speaker 2: Rick Potino at Saint John's. He was one of the
Speaker 2: first players I saw that hit the portal. And of
Speaker 2: course he's a big name that everybody would want. But
Speaker 2: I haven't, you know, And just because I haven't heard
Speaker 2: much about his recruitment doesn't mean that he's you know,
Speaker 2: that he's he's having a tough time finding suitors. But like,
Speaker 2: I think some of these guys that are holding out
Speaker 2: this late in the game, I think it's because they
Speaker 2: have yet to get the money they want and they're
Speaker 2: holding out hope that somebody offers. But you know, if
Speaker 2: you don't get the money that you want, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to lower your ask or you won't play. Like
Speaker 2: that's just that's just what it comes down to. And
Speaker 2: there was a guy last year that did it, but
Speaker 2: he wasn't as big of a name, but Aj Store
Speaker 2: was actually the Chucky he burned back court made at Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: and he he was I mean, he was better than
Speaker 2: Chucky as far as statistics, as far as production. In fact,
Speaker 2: Chucky had a pretty good sophomore season, kind of a
Speaker 2: breakout year. And then next year Aj Store transferred in
Speaker 2: from I believe Saint John's and he kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: he became the lead guard for them. He transferred to
Speaker 2: he transferred and wanted to go to Kansas and he
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if it was his representation
Speaker 2: or who it was, but he was pretty clear he
Speaker 2: wanted north of a million dollars and you know, kind
Speaker 2: of played out bad for him because he didn't get
Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't get what he wanted or close
Speaker 2: to it, and he ended up going to Kansas for
Speaker 2: way less than what he intended. And then you know
Speaker 2: he also had like a very underwhelming year where he
Speaker 2: was like their eighth ninth man. So you know, there
Speaker 2: could be what I'm trying to get to is there
Speaker 2: could be a scenario where you've got guys that are
Speaker 2: holding out for more money and you know you haven't
Speaker 2: even pursued him because you knew one you couldn't afford
Speaker 2: him to even if you could, you wouldn't spend what
Speaker 2: they want to be paid. Well, then they change, you know,
Speaker 2: their agency's going to tell them, look, we got to reset,
Speaker 2: we got to reset the market. It's not what we
Speaker 2: thought it was. And that could put you in position
Speaker 2: to maybe, you know, get involved with the player that
Speaker 2: you felt like wasn't realistic. So you really never know
Speaker 2: how it's all going to play out, which makes it exciting.
Speaker 2: But also you know, for Louisville, I think two days
Speaker 2: ago when we got the news about Casein, I was
Speaker 2: of the opinion, all right, anybody else you get as
Speaker 2: an added bonus, I like the roster as it is,
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about it, and I still do
Speaker 2: feel good about it. But James Scott is somebody that,
Speaker 2: you know, let's be honest, as much as you don't
Speaker 2: as much as some people don't think that he's going
Speaker 2: to be a real loss and that you think that
Speaker 2: Wolves will be able to make up without him, and
Speaker 2: you may be right, I don't. I don't believe anybody
Speaker 2: who was of the opinion of, yeah, who cares if
Speaker 2: he leaves? I mean maybe now you think that, but
Speaker 2: I don't think there was anybody on the team as
Speaker 2: far as returning players that played last year that like
Speaker 2: we were thinking, yeah, they're not good enough to play here.
Speaker 2: I would imagine they're going to transfer, and that's best
Speaker 2: for everybody. I mean, look both, here's the reality the
Speaker 2: Portal has shown us already. No matter who you are,
Speaker 2: you're replaceable. Like clearly you're gonna look like if you're
Speaker 2: in the mid may Oh, let me back up, if
Speaker 2: you're in the mid majors, it's a different story because, like
Speaker 2: you know, you have guys that realize after a couple
Speaker 2: of years at the MAC or in the Sun Belt
Speaker 2: that they're better than their league, and you know, the
Speaker 2: likelihood of you being able to get a guy in
Speaker 2: the portal that can replace what you lose. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's as that coach we played the sound a couple
Speaker 2: weeks ago, who's at Norfolk State. I mean, they're not
Speaker 2: even really mid major, but as coach said it best,
Speaker 2: they are absolutely the new Jucos because they have recruit
Speaker 2: players to come in and you know, they have to
Speaker 2: sell them. Come here for a year and we'll let
Speaker 2: you have the keys to the to the car and
Speaker 2: you can show what you can do and move on
Speaker 2: to the higher level. I mean, that's got to be
Speaker 2: your new pitch to get these players, because that's just
Speaker 2: kind of how things are. That's how things operate now.
Speaker 2: But overall, I mean, there have been examples of teams
Speaker 2: that lost some like for example, Chucky Heburn and AJ
Speaker 2: Store left Wisconsin last year and it looked like Greg
Speaker 2: Guard was done, like how can he recover? And Wisconsin
Speaker 2: they weren't elite, but they had I mean, they had
Speaker 2: a really good regular season and it wasn't as if
Speaker 2: they were, you know, one of the top teams in
Speaker 2: the country. But I'm pretty sure with all the players
Speaker 2: they lost and you know who they added, nobody thought
Speaker 2: highly of them. I think they were picked to be
Speaker 2: one of the worst teams in the Big Ten, and
Speaker 2: they were one of the better teams in the Big
Speaker 2: Ten for a good stretch of the season. Now, they
Speaker 2: ended up getting that kid from Tanji from Colorado State,
Speaker 2: and that's another example. I don't think they had or
Speaker 2: anybody had a clue that that guy was going to
Speaker 2: be as good as he was. He was an All
Speaker 2: American caliber player for them. So, you know, I get
Speaker 2: the overreaction one way or the other about landing players
Speaker 2: who you think they're going to put you in a
Speaker 2: position to win a national championship. And I get the
Speaker 2: reaction of losing a player that you never thought would
Speaker 2: leave and you didn't want to lose. But man, I
Speaker 2: think there's been enough evidence that'll tell you this stuff
Speaker 2: will all work itself out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like it's you know, there's really not many in college
Speaker 2: basketball at the high level. If you're a good program
Speaker 2: with resources, yeah you may take a net loss, but
Speaker 2: like it ain't the end of the world, Like you'll
Speaker 2: if you are the program that you know has the resources,
Speaker 2: meaning money, you've got a coach who's had some level
Speaker 2: of success. You should be able to, you know, to
Speaker 2: get by, and you know you don't want to just
Speaker 2: get by, you want to win at a high level.
Speaker 2: But you can. I mean, look at Carolina. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know they're coming off a bad season. Like Carolina's
Speaker 2: losing five star McDonald's Americans players that are good. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think that means anybody can lose players. So anyways,
Speaker 2: it's Coffee and Company. Where feel about? Thornton's here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven and let's get back into the NFL
Speaker 2: draft here, because as I'm looking here on the television,
Speaker 2: they're showing Jackson Dart highlights. It'll miss. And I mean,
Speaker 2: I won't claim to be a quarterback guru, right, I
Speaker 2: won't claim to be able to know who's going to
Speaker 2: be who's gonna be great, who's you know, who's going
Speaker 2: to be a bust? But he right now. And it's
Speaker 2: not like I have a loyalty to Daniel Jeremiah, But
Speaker 2: the first NFL mock draft that popped up for me
Speaker 2: here was from NFL dot com and that's where Daniel
Speaker 2: Jeremira works for the NFL Network, and his mock draft
Speaker 2: as of earlier today, he has let's just go quarterbacks
Speaker 2: real quick. He has cam Ward number one. I think
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear that cam Ward is going to be
Speaker 2: the first player taken in this draft. And then after that,
Speaker 2: I'll just give you the top five Travis Hunter to
Speaker 2: the Browns, number two, Abdual Carter the edge from Penn
Speaker 2: State going number three to the Giants, and then the
Speaker 2: Patriots taken the offensive tackle Will Campbell from LSU, And
Speaker 2: the fifth pick is now Ashton gen Z, which I mean,
Speaker 2: I talked about it yesterday, him being somebody that I
Speaker 2: was just surprised to see being projected to go so
Speaker 2: early because I think he's terrible. But I just think
Speaker 2: like using a top five, top first round pick on
Speaker 2: a running back to me just kind of seems like
Speaker 2: you're you're behind the times. But then again, I mean,
Speaker 2: they're on a rookie deal. If you if you mean,
Speaker 2: it may be the best time to take them if
Speaker 2: they're that good, right, because and this is just this
Speaker 2: is sad to say, but it's the reality. Given the
Speaker 2: way running backs have have kind of played out in
Speaker 2: the NFL in the last decade or maybe in a
Speaker 2: little bit a little bit longer than that. The likelihood
Speaker 2: of a running back being worthy of a of a
Speaker 2: of a max deal off the rookie contract. It's just
Speaker 2: not it's just not realistic, you know what I mean. Like, so, yeah,
Speaker 2: you'll pay him on his rookie deal, but that even
Speaker 2: if he's great for you for a couple of years,
Speaker 2: maybe three years. You know, there's history that says that
Speaker 2: the majority of the guys who didn't get the big
Speaker 2: contract that are drafted early, it's not a good investment.
Speaker 2: So you know, you could maximize the running back in
Speaker 2: his prime years and just know that we probably won't
Speaker 2: be needing to give him a max contract to where
Speaker 2: we've invested an insane amount of mine. I mean again,
Speaker 2: maybe you do it and it works out, because there
Speaker 2: are some examples. I mean Sakwon Barkley, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't even know did he get a second deal with
Speaker 2: the Giants. I kind of feel like he did, but
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Like I felt like he came
Speaker 2: out of college a long time ago. Either way, they
Speaker 2: chose not to pay him though, and that's why he
Speaker 2: ended up in New York, right or in Philly? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there is a rookie option on him
Speaker 3: since he got drafted in the top ten, I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, for another example, who was the
Speaker 2: I mean, Zeke got a new contract that was a
Speaker 2: long time ago. But like, and there's not even many
Speaker 2: examples to give you because more because let's be honest,
Speaker 2: a lot of quarterbacks don't or I'm sorry, a lot
Speaker 2: of running backs don't get drafted that early anymore. So
Speaker 2: I mean, Gitti's good, trust me. I'm not acting like
Speaker 2: he's not worthy. But I just think the running back position,
Speaker 2: while I think that it's somebody that you know, put
Speaker 2: it this way, if you were drafting somebody in the
Speaker 2: top five, which according to this that's what would happen.
Speaker 2: If that's who the Jags take more often than not,
Speaker 2: the best case scenario is that it's somebody that is
Speaker 2: going to be your franchise player for as long as possible.
Speaker 2: I think maybe the strategy here would be he might be,
Speaker 2: but that's look, even if he's great, running backs just
Speaker 2: don't last as long in the NFL anymore. So you know,
Speaker 2: maybe the Raiders who might take him, or maybe the
Speaker 2: Jags they're taking him, thinking hey, this guy's special. For
Speaker 2: the next few years, he won't be a long term piece,
Speaker 2: because that's just you know, running backs aren't that anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, Derrick Henry, somebody's already mentioning him on
Speaker 2: the text line. But you know, Derrick Henry's one of one, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, who would you compare Derrick Henry to as
Speaker 2: a running back? I mean, guy's built like a mack truck.
Speaker 2: So you know, the elite of the elite. You still
Speaker 2: see those guys play longer than most, but the vast
Speaker 2: majority of the running backs that enter the NFL out
Speaker 2: of college, I mean, they just don't have the same
Speaker 2: It's almost like it's a totally different type of job
Speaker 2: than every other position in the NFL. And you know,
Speaker 2: I hate that for these guys. But I also I
Speaker 2: also understand, like, if you are in charge of an
Speaker 2: NFL franchise, you got to make you know, you got
Speaker 2: to make funinancial decisions that puts your franchise in the
Speaker 2: best situation for the future, and giving guaranteed money over
Speaker 2: many years to running backs has been proven to be
Speaker 2: more often than not a waste of money. So anyways,
Speaker 2: back to the mock draft year, the next quarterback to
Speaker 2: be taken, according to Daniel Jeremiah here at the NFL
Speaker 2: network is in fact the guy we just mentioned who
Speaker 2: is Jackson Dart. So the the let's see they have
Speaker 2: him going, well, okay, here we go. So the Giants
Speaker 2: have the eighteenth pick. But this is what I don't
Speaker 2: know in this mock draft, and you would know more
Speaker 2: than me, Austin here in like he said, projected trade
Speaker 2: with the Seahawks. He's predicting that that trade happens right, like,
Speaker 2: there's not already a trade in place, right okay, because
Speaker 2: that's what gets what gets confusing for me because I'll
Speaker 2: never forget it. This is the one that just comes
Speaker 2: to mind. But it wasn't new. But when Donovan Mitchell
Speaker 2: got drafted, everybody knew that he was going to the
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz, but he had to wear the hat that
Speaker 2: was the Minnesota Timberwolves because it was their pick and
Speaker 2: it was being traded. I'm like, if you already know
Speaker 2: the trade is in place, like for years you've known
Speaker 2: that pick now belongs to this team, Like, why would
Speaker 2: you do that? Anyways, long story short, he's projecting that
Speaker 2: the Seahawks trade up at the eighteenth pick to get
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart, which maybe that happens but I'll bring that
Speaker 2: up because this is this would be an all time
Speaker 2: NFL story. I mean, again, there's not a whole lot
Speaker 2: of drama to it. But if you are a Giants
Speaker 2: fan and you have just been wondering, you know you've
Speaker 2: been you've been sleepless in recent days, wondering you know
Speaker 2: who your franchise is gonna draft because you wanted to
Speaker 2: get turned around and your franchise has been a joke.
Speaker 2: And then you know you might have gotten tipped off
Speaker 2: by what's going to happen because the gm his teenage
Speaker 2: son accidentally posted well I don't know about accident, but
Speaker 2: he leaked it the night before the draft. But the
Speaker 2: Giants were drafting this young man, Jackson Dart. So if,
Speaker 2: in fact, if the Giants draft him, regardless of if
Speaker 2: they're trading him or they just want him, I mean,
Speaker 2: in the end, it there's really no net loss, right,
Speaker 2: it's just a bad look that it got leaked that way.
Speaker 2: But also I mean it just it's another sign again
Speaker 2: overall Jackson Dark may be great, like maybe he's the
Speaker 2: guy who saves the Giants, but it's also so New
Speaker 2: York Giants, meaning that they don't make good decisions. They're
Speaker 2: not well run despite being, you know, the team in
Speaker 2: the biggest market in America. Like that, everybody found out
Speaker 2: who they're picking the night before, when usually this stuff
Speaker 2: is like top secret super stuff. The Giants don't have
Speaker 2: the number one pick, They've got the seventeenth pick, and
Speaker 2: if everybody finds out about it from the teenage kid
Speaker 2: posting on Instagram like that would be hilarious. Again, there's
Speaker 2: not really much more to it than that, and again
Speaker 2: it may still all work out, but like that was
Speaker 2: a very New York Giants type of story in my opinion.
Speaker 2: So all right, the rest of the way here, looking
Speaker 2: at the projections, you've got shid or Sanders. Have you
Speaker 2: seen where he's projected to go, because this is the
Speaker 2: second mock draft I've seen in the last ten minutes
Speaker 2: that has him going in this spot. Do you have
Speaker 2: any clue which spot I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: Austin, it seemed like he's very hot to go nine
Speaker 3: to the Saint So.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing him going twenty one to the to the Steelers.
Speaker 2: I've heard the Steelers too. Yeah, yeah, I mean that
Speaker 2: would shock me because I just I mean, to me,
Speaker 2: he does not fit the culture of Pittsburgh in any way.
Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't you agree like that that franchise. They
Speaker 2: do not care who you are, what you've done. They
Speaker 2: are going to do things their way, the way they've
Speaker 2: done it for generations, and more often than not, if
Speaker 2: they choose to not spend or not, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: like they've usually made it work. Now again, they're getting
Speaker 2: a little stale with Mike Tomlin, But like, can you
Speaker 2: see Mike Tomlin dealing with the diva that is shit
Speaker 2: or Sanders?
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of can. I can totally see
Speaker 3: Dion being in favor of this. I could if there's
Speaker 3: anybody that's gonna kind of.
Speaker 2: Well, I think as a phenomenal coach. Yes, love, I
Speaker 2: know he hadn't had the results, but like, I could
Speaker 2: see Dion wanting it. But I could also see Mike
Speaker 2: Tomlin being like, I'm not I'm not babysitting this guy.
Speaker 2: We ain't playing for you know, views We're playing for
Speaker 2: wins and you got to compete. Now. With that said,
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin could also on the other end, Austin be
Speaker 2: the perfect guy to kind of make him grow up, maybe,
Speaker 2: since that's what I'm thinking, Yeah, yeah, I think we
Speaker 2: were kind of thinking the same thing at the same time,
Speaker 2: like maybe this is the guy that is not his father,
Speaker 2: but he respects him as a hard nose coach that
Speaker 2: he would buy in for, because I feel like there's
Speaker 2: certain coaches that unfortunately his daddy's dion and his dad's
Speaker 2: a phenomenal player himself. His dad's coached him a lot
Speaker 2: of his life. Like I'm just trying to think of
Speaker 2: a lame duck, like wimp coach, Like I could just
Speaker 2: see shit or walking all over a lot of those guys, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: not Mike Tomlin. So yeah, looking at the rest of
Speaker 2: the the rest of the first round here, I mean
Speaker 2: there's obviously some names that are In fact, Kentucky's got
Speaker 2: a player that's expected to be the first round, which
Speaker 2: is I mean, I remember this name, but I didn't
Speaker 2: realize he generated so much love from the NFL during
Speaker 2: the draft process. Maxwell Harriston, the cornerback of Kentucky. He's
Speaker 2: going to be there, oh is he?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to be at the draft.
Speaker 2: And then let's see, I just wanted to make sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's no more quarterbacks in the first round. So if
Speaker 2: Shuck ends up going fourth I mean I would say
Speaker 2: that there's a good chance that would it be the
Speaker 2: earliest the second round, maybe even third, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't nothing would really shocked me. Like if he goes
Speaker 2: mid third round, I still think that's a great thing
Speaker 2: for him. And it's really not something it's not something
Speaker 2: that like, you know, it's not something that we can say, wow,
Speaker 2: everybody was wrong, because still I mean, at the end
Speaker 2: of the season, I don't think anybody thought he was
Speaker 2: for sure to get drafted. Now I think he is
Speaker 2: for sure to get drafted. And despite all this love
Speaker 2: and this buzz, I don't think you heard a whole
Speaker 2: lot about well, hey he's going to be taken super early,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It was more so just like, hey,
Speaker 2: this guy's in the mix too, And I think overall
Speaker 2: most have said he's probably third or fourth, and as
Speaker 2: we get to draft day, which we're here, I mean,
Speaker 2: it seems as if those three are going to be
Speaker 2: the first taken and then he'll probably be the next
Speaker 2: in line. But when that could be, who knows, right, Like,
Speaker 2: could be a team in the second round that once
Speaker 2: a quarterback, could be a team in the third round,
Speaker 2: could be a team late first, that just says, look,
Speaker 2: this is the twenty ninth or thirtieth pick, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: and you know, we don't need a quarterback right now.
Speaker 2: But we think this guy's really good. We know if
Speaker 2: he goes to the second and third round we won't
Speaker 2: get him. We'll take him, We'll let him sit back
Speaker 2: and you know, kind of go from there. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at and I can't There's not many yet.
Speaker 2: I looked at this the other day. There's not many
Speaker 2: teams in the later rounds that would be in that position,
Speaker 2: right because maybe although maybe the Lions, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: how much longer do you think, you know, Jared Goff's
Speaker 2: got it him? I mean, obviously he's resurrected his career
Speaker 2: in a way that a lot of people didn't expect.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I can't see him He's been the
Speaker 2: league ten years, hadn't he I can't see him being
Speaker 2: around that much longer despite having you know, a real
Speaker 2: kind of you know, I mean, I thought he would
Speaker 2: just be a placeholder for them for a little while
Speaker 2: and did not see him being kind of the guy
Speaker 2: that helped them get get you know, relevant for the
Speaker 2: first time. Seemingly in my life.
Speaker 3: So do you want your vikings to take Uh, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm loving Calvin Banks. He's a tackle from Texas, but
Speaker 3: he can also play guard too. So anything to beef
Speaker 3: up that interior offensive line need to beef uh also
Speaker 3: always I need that beef. It is uh Alabama's safety
Speaker 3: and Malachi Malachi Starks are really like him. There's anything
Speaker 3: to beef up. Your secondary is good. But also just
Speaker 3: you saw how the Eagles won it this year, just
Speaker 3: straight trenches play, just beefy guys in the middle. Interior
Speaker 3: offensive line is like your biggest one. You want to
Speaker 3: you want to do everything you can to protect JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2: A lot of you know, the interior players. It's not
Speaker 2: a sexy pick, but I don't think anybody would would
Speaker 2: try to tell you that it's not important. You know,
Speaker 2: I mean that, and you know, sometimes you end up,
Speaker 2: you know, like there's guys that have probably played in
Speaker 2: the NFL and been really good at at that work,
Speaker 2: you know, meaning either protecting the quarterback or being a
Speaker 2: beefy defensive lineman that stops the run and clogs the hole,
Speaker 2: and you know they don't they're not the ones on
Speaker 2: billboards in those markets. They're not the ones that, like
Speaker 2: you see everywhere, it's usually you know, the quarterback, the
Speaker 2: running back, or the scope position players, or maybe like
Speaker 2: a cocky defensive back who's got a lot of personality. Right.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's been many picks that were taking
Speaker 2: really early of those guys up front that a lot
Speaker 2: of people just kind of don't think about. But I
Speaker 2: bet you could ask gms. Wouldn't shock me if you
Speaker 2: asked gms that did it a long time, that had
Speaker 2: some good picks and some bad picks. I bet they
Speaker 2: would tell you that some of the some of the
Speaker 2: best investments they made were getting those guys because again,
Speaker 2: they don't get as much pub But as you said,
Speaker 2: the Eagles, I mean that's quite literally what what did
Speaker 2: it for them this year? Yeah? Like they they clearly
Speaker 2: are pretty good in other areas too, But you know
Speaker 2: they're upfront. They're just physical to push you around, and
Speaker 2: you know that's still that's I think that'll always matter
Speaker 2: in football if we're being honest. So all right, quick break,
Speaker 2: We'll come back for a couple of quick segments before
Speaker 2: we wrap this thing up. Let's uh, let's let's finish
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Speaker 2: So obviously a lot of talk about Tyler Shuck, but
Speaker 2: he won't be the only Louisville player taken in this
Speaker 2: this NFL draft, not tonight or maybe not even tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But Quincy Riley, it sounds like there's six teams that
Speaker 2: have at least expressed the most interest meeting that they
Speaker 2: had multiple meetings workouts with him. And that's the Commanders,
Speaker 2: the Titans, the Panthers, the Niners, the Dolphins, and the Saints.
Speaker 2: So I mean, do with that information what you will.
Speaker 2: There have been instances where guys get drafted and then
Speaker 2: they realize that like they never had any conversation with
Speaker 2: any team, and I'm always curious how that ends up
Speaker 2: happening to where somebody will take you. And yet you
Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, I don't have to worry about them
Speaker 2: taking me because they never they never showed in me,
Speaker 2: they didn't have any I mean, clearly they're aware of you.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's their job to know who's out there.
Speaker 2: But you know, if you're going to do a one
Speaker 2: on one interview or I guess really your agent is
Speaker 2: the one who will tell you which teams are showing
Speaker 2: the most interests as far as wanting to further I guess,
Speaker 2: you know, interview you other than just watching your film
Speaker 2: and seeing you at the combines. So my guess is
Speaker 2: that when that does happen, it's more so because if
Speaker 2: they did have a big boy, or maybe they had
Speaker 2: a position that they really really wanted that they just
Speaker 2: they literally did not get any of the guys that
Speaker 2: they thought would be there. So and then also Ashton Jilotti,
Speaker 2: I mean I keep seeing you know that he's generating
Speaker 2: you know, good reviews as far as just you know,
Speaker 2: people acknowledging that he's a freak athlete, good size, was
Speaker 2: very very productive in college. But also you know, he
Speaker 2: was double teamed a lot. I mean, his production, it
Speaker 2: really his whole career was good, I mean really good.
Speaker 2: But you know, as a senior there'd be games where
Speaker 2: he just wasn't super active, and some of that might
Speaker 2: have been on him. But if you go back and
Speaker 2: look at the film, which I'm sure the NFL does,
Speaker 2: I mean, they realized that he had developed. I mean
Speaker 2: put it this way, getting him back was a huge
Speaker 2: thing for Louisville and you didn't really get a lot of,
Speaker 2: you know, games where he just dominated as a senior
Speaker 2: to where it felt like it, but teams had to
Speaker 2: double team like he had done enough in his career
Speaker 2: where he probably wasn't even supposed to be a senior.
Speaker 2: He was probably supposed to be in the NFL, but
Speaker 2: obviously nil as a factor, and he wanted to come
Speaker 2: back and you know, improve a little bit more. And
Speaker 2: you know, by the time he was a senior, even
Speaker 2: if his numbers weren't super stellar in the first few
Speaker 2: games or whatever it was, every team knows we got
Speaker 2: to account for this guy because he's you know, he's
Speaker 2: pretty special. So you know, I don't I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't know exactly where he's he's expected to go, but
Speaker 2: certainly he'll be taken in this draft. I think right
Speaker 2: now Louisville has three guys that you know for sure
Speaker 2: are going to be taken. As far as where it's
Speaker 2: it's up in the air now. One guy that I
Speaker 2: don't know is Jacorey Brooks. I mean I haven't, I
Speaker 2: mean I kind of forgot about him. And I don't
Speaker 2: mean because you know he's forgetable player. He was special.
Speaker 2: I mean you could tell when he was making plays
Speaker 2: this year connecting with Tyler Shuck that oh yeah, there's
Speaker 2: a there's a it makes sense that that guy was
Speaker 2: catching touchdown passes for Bryce Young at Alabama when Nick
Speaker 2: Saban was coaching them. But you know he uh, he
Speaker 2: only played it for a year, So it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's still something that's just you know, even Shuck, like
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly I feel like Shuck's our guy and
Speaker 2: him being getting drafted will certainly bode well for Louisville's
Speaker 2: representation in the NFL and all that. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: no guarantee of what it does for you, but it
Speaker 2: can't do anything but help you when you're putting guys
Speaker 2: in the NFL. So but you know, when they're only
Speaker 2: here for a year, it's just it's a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just different. You know, it's not something
Speaker 2: we're used to. I mean, I feel like Bob six
Speaker 2: years ago, because there was no portal and just because
Speaker 2: you know, things were so different. More often than not,
Speaker 2: if you're getting drafted, I mean, one you couldn't. You
Speaker 2: couldn't go after just one year, right, Like you had
Speaker 2: to play at least two years before you'd be eligible
Speaker 2: to get drafted, which is still the case. But guys
Speaker 2: going pro and they are they only had been at
Speaker 2: their school one year, like even that's was that used
Speaker 2: to be a real rarity, and now you know, it's
Speaker 2: kind of become it's kind of become the norm. But
Speaker 2: you know, Jacory Brooks one of those guys that I mean,
Speaker 2: right situation, right offense, I mean, I could see him
Speaker 2: having a pretty lengthy NFL career, all right. So I
Speaker 2: don't even know if this is worth really getting into,
Speaker 2: but it was a big talking point yesterday. And I
Speaker 2: think it was right around twenty four hours ago, almost
Speaker 2: to the to the to the minute, that we had
Speaker 2: somebody bring this up on the show, and that was
Speaker 2: that Travis Perry. Yeah, with somebody who listens who's from Eddieville,
Speaker 2: Lion County that happens to be a Louisville fan, which
Speaker 2: I would imagine, sir, you were probably outnumbered. I would
Speaker 2: imagine that you're You're probably not alone, but I would
Speaker 2: say you are very much an enemy territory in Eddieville. Kentucky,
Speaker 2: where I would imagine the majority of their natives or
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans. But he mentioned being a Louisville fan and
Speaker 2: asked if I thought maybe Pat Kelsey and his staff
Speaker 2: would would get involved, And you know, I guessed that
Speaker 2: they wouldn't because you know, they already have guards in
Speaker 2: the portal, and I don't really know what they could sell.
Speaker 2: I mean, Travis Perry, he would have a better time
Speaker 2: competing in the ACC than he would the SEC in basketball.
Speaker 2: But if he was to decide to come to Louisville
Speaker 2: and they pursued him, I mean, he would be walking
Speaker 2: into a situation that is rather similar to the one
Speaker 2: that he left, meaning you know, he's behind some guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, I still think he's a good player that
Speaker 2: will have a good career. In fact, here's what I
Speaker 2: could see happening. I could see Perry going to a
Speaker 2: place like WKU and then jumping back up. That's what
Speaker 2: I could see happening, just because that's now becoming a trend.
Speaker 2: But anyways, Louisville is one of the schools that reached
Speaker 2: out of court to Joe Tipton of on three Sports
Speaker 2: so Ole, miss Arkansas, Maryland, Vanderbilt, Louisville, Iowa, Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri,
Speaker 2: LSU WKU in South Carolina. So clip that's a huge
Speaker 2: list of schools and too early to know which way
Speaker 2: he's leaning. But the reports that Ole miss is really
Speaker 2: coming strong after him, as well as Maryland, which of
Speaker 2: course they just hired Bus Williams. So you know, again,
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll ever end up playing for Louisville,
Speaker 2: But I was thinking earlier today when I saw that
Speaker 2: report that he if you consider you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know people were listening at the time yesterday when I
Speaker 2: mentioned this, But to me, his biggest issue this past
Speaker 2: year was that he was put in a position to
Speaker 2: where he had to kind of be their backup point guard.
Speaker 2: And he's really not a point guard. Like I just
Speaker 2: don't think he could probably manage being the point guard
Speaker 2: for you. But if you're gonna get the most out
Speaker 2: of what he can do, you need to put him
Speaker 2: off the ball and when to shoot. And he played
Speaker 2: point this year because of injuries that they had, and
Speaker 2: he struggled at times, not only you know, initiating offense
Speaker 2: and creating for himself and others, but he struggled defensively,
Speaker 2: but he did get some open looks and he just
Speaker 2: didn't knock him down. And I know, Oh, I'm not
Speaker 2: the only one that has said this. He's one of
Speaker 2: the best shooters I've ever seen in high school. Like
Speaker 2: he is. I mean, he's a flat out shooter. He's
Speaker 2: one of those guys. At any shot he misses, you
Speaker 2: feel like his go way in because he's that He's
Speaker 2: just got a beautiful shot and you know he can
Speaker 2: he can, he can shoot it. But I guess if
Speaker 2: you only watch him Kentucky this year, you wouldn't know that.
Speaker 2: So hear me out like I don't I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not saying this is going to happen. But like he
Speaker 2: if he does get his shot to fall, he could
Speaker 2: be Rain Smith because Ran Smith. Think about it, like
Speaker 2: Rain Smith is somebody that is not super athletic, big
Speaker 2: enough but not big, quick enough but not quick. And
Speaker 2: Rain was elite because of really two things. One elite shooter,
Speaker 2: but also like he knew where he's where he had vulnerabilities,
Speaker 2: he stayed away from that. Like Rain was a good player,
Speaker 2: Like I'm defensive at times because instead of just saying
Speaker 2: Rain was a good player, people just say Rain was
Speaker 2: a shooter. Well, it's both. Like, if you're a really
Speaker 2: really good shooter and you know you average fourteen and
Speaker 2: a half fifteen points a game, you're a good player.
Speaker 2: Like you know, like it doesn't have to be well,
Speaker 2: you know, he's not that good. He can just shoot it. Well,
Speaker 2: let's not check. That's a big part of being good
Speaker 2: and scoring points. So you know, again, probably not even
Speaker 2: worth bringing up. But like Rain was not a point
Speaker 2: because that's just not what he does. But you would think, Okay,
Speaker 2: if you're going to play at a high level in
Speaker 2: college basketball, you know, they can't put you at two
Speaker 2: because you know you're not You're not quick enough to
Speaker 2: take somebody off the bounce. But if you you know,
Speaker 2: like Rain, one of the things he was so gifted
Speaker 2: at that you know, obviously making shots, but he could
Speaker 2: move without the ball. He could float to the perfect
Speaker 2: spot at the perfect time. You know, he could probably
Speaker 2: take off, you know, in the half court somewhere and
Speaker 2: three passes will be made, but he knows where to
Speaker 2: be when that fourth pass is coming to him for
Speaker 2: a shot. Like it's a beautiful thing to see. Obviously
Speaker 2: him just making shots is awesome, but like there's things
Speaker 2: he could that he was doing with as far as moving,
Speaker 2: understanding spacing that like that's really what because there's a
Speaker 2: lot of guys that can fly out shoot it. But
Speaker 2: being able to find a way to get open regardless
Speaker 2: of what's going on, knowing how to manipulate screens, knowing
Speaker 2: that you've got screen action coming, and you know that
Speaker 2: the defense is prepared for it because they scouted you.
Speaker 2: So now what are you gonna do. You're gonna slip it,
Speaker 2: You're gonna fade. I'm talking ball now, I'm about to
Speaker 2: pass out here. But like he was, he was. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm joking obviously, but he was. He was good in
Speaker 2: a lot of ways that a lot of people probably
Speaker 2: didn't realize. So maybe that could be Maybe that could
Speaker 2: be Travis Perry somewhere. All right, let's see, let's gohea
Speaker 2: and get to our final break because if not, we'll
Speaker 2: run out of time. Let's do that, We'll come back
Speaker 2: on the other side, wrap this thing up. Talk a
Speaker 2: little more. NFL Draft is we're now just two hours
Speaker 2: and fourteen minutes away from this thing getting started. And
Speaker 2: only say that because I'm watching ESPN and they've got
Speaker 2: this clock countdown going on. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: like until they officially start their coverage of the event
Speaker 2: or that's when the first pick is, but either way,
Speaker 2: it's getting close. So exciting stuff, no doubt stick around.
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Speaker 2: So it makes total sense for these, you know, for
Speaker 2: the social media accounts of these college football programs to
Speaker 2: really put out as much content as possible, you know,
Speaker 2: just taking advantage of the fact that, you know, you
Speaker 2: are a program that's putting guys in the NFL and
Speaker 2: all that can do is help you when it comes
Speaker 2: to getting other players that might think, Okay, this school
Speaker 2: can be my path to the NFL. So during the
Speaker 2: break there, I saw that Miami their for their Twitter account,
Speaker 2: they posted a video of cam Ward probably today looks
Speaker 2: like he's at the draft, you know, just to thank
Speaker 2: you to the Hurricane Nation, Hurricane family, like, you know,
Speaker 2: Miami fans, and you know, that's that's that's a pretty
Speaker 2: typical thing that you would expect. But it kind of
Speaker 2: hit me that Miami having a quarterback taken number one
Speaker 2: in the draft is kind of wild, and he was
Speaker 2: only there one year. But when you talk about the you,
Speaker 2: when is the you going to be back? Are they
Speaker 2: finally back? I mean they've had some bad years, some
Speaker 2: bad teams, but they've also had some really really good
Speaker 2: talent at times. But quarterback play has always kind of stunk.
Speaker 2: Like I can't think of the last quarterback that they
Speaker 2: had that we felt like was pretty good. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was the guy who was there. Gosh, I remember
Speaker 2: he came here when Louisville was playing during the COVID season.
Speaker 2: He had a pretty good game and he was a
Speaker 2: fine quarterback by garn King. Yes, yeah, and he was good,
Speaker 2: but I mean it wasn't to the situation that like
Speaker 2: he was you know, he was good, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: like he was elite, and he certainly didn't translate to
Speaker 2: the NFL. So anyways, I just went through and looked,
Speaker 2: and you know, Miami, in my lifetime, I'm thirty six
Speaker 2: years old, be thirty seven in July, They've only had
Speaker 2: one quarterback taken in the first round in my lifetime,
Speaker 2: and that was back in nineteen eighty nine, a year
Speaker 2: before I was born. I think it was. And I
Speaker 2: don't even know who this guy was. Doesn't mean he
Speaker 2: wasn't good. Maybe he was. And I'm just an idiot
Speaker 2: and don't remember the NFL in the early nineties, but
Speaker 2: this was the guy's name was Steve Walsh. He was
Speaker 2: taken as the number. He was taken in the first
Speaker 2: round as a quarterback, and then from then on. I mean,
Speaker 2: they've had some other quarterbacks taken, but this will be
Speaker 2: the first quarterback in the first round since nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: nine and they have nothing to show for it. I mean,
Speaker 2: they weren't bad this past year, but like Miami has
Speaker 2: been in decent spot, in a decent spot as a
Speaker 2: program at times with talent resources. I mean, they've been
Speaker 2: the team that everybody has been kind of not desperate
Speaker 2: to be good, but like they've got just some kind
Speaker 2: of flare about them that like, you know, they're the
Speaker 2: you like they their brand was so strong when they
Speaker 2: were good that even today it's still something even if
Speaker 2: you didn't experience that, you know it, right, And yet
Speaker 2: their quarterback play has just been subparts held them back.
Speaker 2: It's not the only thing, but many program I mean,
Speaker 2: when you think about it. There are programs that haven't
Speaker 2: accomplished anything close to what Miami's done in the last
Speaker 2: twenty five years, but they've had some good quarterbacks. Miami hasn't. Well,
Speaker 2: now they have cam Ward who's going to go number
Speaker 2: one overall, who would have won the Heisman probably had
Speaker 2: it not been for Travis Hunter being the best two
Speaker 2: way player we've had in college football, like ever, And
Speaker 2: what do they have to show for it? Nothing? I mean,
Speaker 2: are they cursed? Like if they just beat Syracuse and
Speaker 2: fran Brown at the end of the year, they're safely
Speaker 2: in the tournament or in the play and they probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't have gone deep. But last I checked, the playoff
Speaker 2: is kind of going to be viewed as like the
Speaker 2: it's like the final full equivalent of college football, Like
Speaker 2: it's still something you can say, we made the freaking playoff.
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's got to be a punch in
Speaker 2: the gut to Canes fans because the likelihood of you
Speaker 2: having a quarterback this good, even if you get good
Speaker 2: ones consistently, which you don't like, it's rare. He's that good.
Speaker 2: And you know you weren't bad, you were successful, but
Speaker 2: it was right there for you to get to the playoff,
Speaker 2: and you just couldn't get past Syracuse, and you know,
Speaker 2: the rest is history. We all know. Like I mean,
Speaker 2: so I don't know, I'm not picking on them, but like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just seemed like, I mean, I've
Speaker 2: always anytime Wolves played Miami, we've talked about how like
Speaker 2: it is wild because for as much as Miami has
Speaker 2: flair and you know, they have some real good history tradition,
Speaker 2: the quarterback play has kind of always been, you know,
Speaker 2: not good, but the lot will be desired, absolutely. And
Speaker 2: the last quarterback that they had, you know, that was
Speaker 2: even drafted was was it Brad Kaya? Maybe?
Speaker 3: I remember Brad Kaya.
Speaker 2: He was in the sixth round in twenty seventeen. And
Speaker 2: then from there, I mean, you gotta go way back
Speaker 2: to I'm still scrolling and we're running out of time.
Speaker 2: I gotta find one more. I mean, they had Jim
Speaker 2: Kelly went there. Did he has a long, long ago?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott's Covington was drafted in the seventh round of
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven. So there you go. All right, we're
Speaker 2: out of time. You guys enjoyed the draft tonight. We'll
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow to react to it and have some fun.
Speaker 2: Take care everybody