Speaker 1: Tape Deck Media.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to see you at the Potty Richter.
Speaker 2: My name is Chris Chapman. And with me, as always
Speaker 2: is my co host Aaron Frescus. Hello, and with me
Speaker 2: as occasionally is a guest co host Eric A. Shasky. Hello,
Speaker 2: and today we are going to continue talking about the
Speaker 2: production of Arnold's nineteen seventy six Southern vehicle Stay Hungry.
Speaker 3: What's a Southern vehicle?
Speaker 2: Is that like a like the General Lee, I think
Speaker 2: essentially nineteen seventy six generally.
Speaker 3: I was trying to think of another Southern vehicle. It
Speaker 3: just like a Beverly Hillbilly's like a fucking jalopie.
Speaker 4: No, like I mean you say southern. The first thing
Speaker 4: that comes to mind is like gone with the wind.
Speaker 3: So a horse. He's talking about a Southern.
Speaker 4: Vehicle covered wagon covered Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: That's orgon trail work trails.
Speaker 3: North, isn't it? Or did they starting?
Speaker 2: I don't remember where they started, actually, I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's like it was like a little house on the prairie.
Speaker 2: The little house on the prairie take place the prairie, dumbass.
Speaker 4: I think they move around.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, Joe's still said the.
Speaker 2: Last episode, and we're just continuing.
Speaker 3: He's still where he is. He'll be back, he'll be
Speaker 3: back for the summary.
Speaker 2: He's definitely alive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely closed.
Speaker 4: The picture with today's.
Speaker 3: Exactly doesn't sound like sketchy. He is totally alive.
Speaker 2: So today we're gonna sure anyway, Today we're going to
Speaker 2: finish up the production info with some of the shooting details,
Speaker 2: how this movie and its reception affected the various careers
Speaker 2: of everyone who worked on it, and uh, and then
Speaker 2: we'll get to like the marketing and some of the
Speaker 2: promotional videos. And for that we go to Aaron.
Speaker 3: Okay, so first off, before we get into stuff, I
Speaker 3: just wanted to quickly mention that I know this episode
Speaker 3: was supposed to be released a few days after our
Speaker 3: last one. Uh. Sorry, Hey, you want to give me
Speaker 3: money to release these weekly, I will be more than
Speaker 3: happy to do that. But otherwise, the four people that
Speaker 3: listen to this, I'm very sorry that we didn't release this.
Speaker 2: But if you send us upwards of eight dollars, we'll
Speaker 2: get the shit out on time.
Speaker 3: That's all it would take is eight dollars. That's that's
Speaker 3: what four people, That's exactly it's too come. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's I'd probably even do it for five bucks. I'll
Speaker 3: give you five bucks if you release this tomorrow last night,
Speaker 3: if you can pull together five Also, I kind of
Speaker 3: just thought of a pretty not good joke of how
Speaker 3: we should have introduced Derek. She's here to make sure
Speaker 3: there aren't any fowls on the field. I don't know.
Speaker 3: She's here to make sure I'm fucking anything up because
Speaker 3: I didn't completely read the Sally Field book, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: no fowls on the field.
Speaker 2: Jesus crazy.
Speaker 3: Wow, it was good. That's why you know, you got
Speaker 3: to workshop stuff that.
Speaker 4: Took way too long for me to even understand.
Speaker 3: I mean that was the first attempt. Okay, So moving
Speaker 3: on to the actual production, and just a heads up
Speaker 3: that there wasn't a whole lot I could find about
Speaker 3: the actual filming of the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah I could imagine. Yeah, this is not this is
Speaker 2: not a well remembered movie.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: Filming began April twenty eighth, nineteen seventy five in Birmingham, Alabama,
Speaker 3: with Arnold stating in his book that production lasted three months,
Speaker 3: but then Sally Field saying in hers that she was
Speaker 3: there for seven weeks, so filming lasted anywhere between seven
Speaker 3: and twelve weeks, Like maybe she left after she was done,
Speaker 3: I guess, or just you know. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I would say that seems really quick for a movie.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 2: That's almost two months, not quite two months.
Speaker 3: I have no idea sure.
Speaker 2: Enough for a movie like this. I feel like seven
Speaker 2: weeks like that doesn't have a ton of specials or
Speaker 2: anything like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, The only other notes I have about production were
Speaker 3: something I have later, and then Arnold talking about how
Speaker 3: he loved his time in Alabama and because Charles Gaines
Speaker 3: was from there, that they were invited to a bunch
Speaker 3: of parties. He also praised Sally Field, saying that she
Speaker 3: was a kick ass like it doesn't meet paraphrase, but
Speaker 3: she was a kick ass actress and fun to be
Speaker 3: around and quote all bubbly and full of energy, and
Speaker 3: that Jeff Bridges was quote very low key, a little
Speaker 3: bit of a hippie into playing his guitar, and a
Speaker 3: comfortable person hanging out with and very very patient.
Speaker 2: That's that's good.
Speaker 3: He also said that he was super grateful to them
Speaker 3: for help him learn learn the ropes of acting and
Speaker 3: that Bob Rafelson was so happy with his performance that
Speaker 3: he eventually stopped checking his weight.
Speaker 2: Jesus.
Speaker 3: The one thing I want to mention real quick that
Speaker 3: we'll cover whenever we decided to redo the Pumping Iron
Speaker 3: episode is that he was like during filming, he was
Speaker 3: visited by George Butler, who finally had the funding for
Speaker 3: Pumping Iron. Yeah. Unfortunately this ends up being a problem
Speaker 3: due to Arnold having both retired and cut weight for
Speaker 3: the Stay Hungry role. But we'll get into that in
Speaker 3: a different episode. Just wanted to mention here as well.
Speaker 4: Oh, at this point, but he's retired.
Speaker 3: This was seventy six, Like that's going to help me,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know if he's he was forty,
Speaker 3: he was forty interminator.
Speaker 2: Forty interminator and that was eighty eighty four.
Speaker 3: Eighty four already, yeah, eighty four, so he.
Speaker 2: Was basically early thirties.
Speaker 3: Okay, So before we wrap up filming, apparently one of
Speaker 3: the last things, the last things I have was that
Speaker 3: during a break from filming, Bob Rayfilson took Sally Field,
Speaker 3: Jeff Bridges, and Arnold Schwarzenegger to see Jaws and then
Speaker 3: afterwards told them that quote, this is the death of
Speaker 3: the movie you're in right now, which has a plot.
Speaker 3: I have so much fucking problem, like so many problems
Speaker 3: with this, Like this is mentioned, yes, yes, but this
Speaker 3: is mentioned in multiple Like Robert England, who's in the movie,
Speaker 3: he's uh, just a supporting character in the movie. He
Speaker 3: works at the gym, right, yeah, yep. I read a
Speaker 3: couple of interviews with them. One of them is they're
Speaker 3: both really good because he's been in the industry so long,
Speaker 3: and he's like as like on you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but like he's got he's got a ton of stories. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But he's talking about the seventies and being in the
Speaker 3: movie and then like the whole seventies culture and the
Speaker 3: like that, the way that just what we were talking
Speaker 3: about earlier, like the movies which he called. Uh, He's like,
Speaker 3: I consider myself very privileged to have participated, in my
Speaker 3: own little way in that magical moment of American cinema,
Speaker 3: the Great Golden Renaissance. And I get, like I said before,
Speaker 3: I get why people like they refer to that because
Speaker 3: they're coming out of the sixties and all that shit.
Speaker 3: But sure, sure, I also am very plot driven. Apparently like,
Speaker 3: I like this story. But the interviewer asks, in your mind,
Speaker 3: what brought about the end of this magical moment? He says,
Speaker 3: and it's been said by more than him, but a
Speaker 3: combination of things. The success of Jaws created the summer
Speaker 3: blockbuster phenomenon. Everybody wants a blockbuster, and then Dennis Hopper
Speaker 3: made a movie that fucking bomb universe will put a
Speaker 3: ton of movie into it, or not sorry, a ton
Speaker 3: of money into But he said it hurt the credibility
Speaker 3: of odd tours and there was a bunch of factors.
Speaker 3: But it's so fucking weird. And I was talking Eric
Speaker 3: about this the other night. In a lot of like
Speaker 3: the Bob Rayflelson interview interviews, is them pointing out that
Speaker 3: the blockbuster, mainly Jaws, that it created the summer blockbuster,
Speaker 3: and they credit it with ruining the like the end
Speaker 3: of this era. Got it, like the studio stopping these
Speaker 3: movies after that summer blockbuster. Everyone wanted those. The problem
Speaker 3: with it that I have is they're complaining about it,
Speaker 3: but like, that movie's actually fucking good.
Speaker 2: What jazz yesh? Yeah, Like I would.
Speaker 3: Be okay with them complaining about it if it was
Speaker 3: star Wars because Star Wars sucks, like it's fine, but
Speaker 3: it's a fucking kids movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: I get that complain with Star Wars, Natal Derek, I
Speaker 3: get that complain with like, uh, Marvel movies. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: that was fucking Jazz. Like, I don't know, it just
Speaker 3: got very defensive to that.
Speaker 2: I take issue with the idea that it somehow ended
Speaker 2: the odd tour movement.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And on top of that, to blame Jaws for the
Speaker 2: industry changing is fucking stupid because who's making the decisions
Speaker 2: about what movies get made the studio executives. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: reason they're chasing the blockbuster is because they want to
Speaker 2: make more money. It was never about the art for them.
Speaker 2: It's just the studio executives were always money grubbing pieces
Speaker 2: of shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Like to come out of Jaws and be like, well,
Speaker 2: this movie is gonna ruin cinema. Fuck you. I hate
Speaker 2: any time anybody says shit like that. No, fuck you.
Speaker 2: The thing that's bringing down the system and the art
Speaker 2: form is fucking the studio executives. It always has been,
Speaker 2: it always will be.
Speaker 3: Yes, And that was only mentioned that wasn't mentioned in
Speaker 3: Arns thing and Tellyfield didnt mention that either.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, obviously that's what Schwarzenegger would go
Speaker 2: on to do, is just make blockbusters, and like not
Speaker 2: even blockbusters of the caliber of Jaws.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he said, oh you think.
Speaker 2: He came out of that like, oh damn, you're right.
Speaker 2: I should fucking I should ride this gravy train.
Speaker 3: Okay, So anyways, kipping forward, I have one quick post
Speaker 3: production note with Bob Rafelson saying in twenty nineteen in
Speaker 3: an interview with Aspen Times dot Com that he did
Speaker 3: a locals only screening in Aspen after he finished the
Speaker 3: first edit of the film, which he also edited. I
Speaker 3: didn't ask me. I think I'm pretty sure that he
Speaker 3: lived there, but yeah, so he was. He wasn't really
Speaker 3: able to get proper feedback after the screening due to
Speaker 3: someone passing out Ella's d to the audience, which was
Speaker 3: a great, you know, a little story. So yeah, so
Speaker 3: stay Hungry received James Cameron. Yeah, that's what I was
Speaker 3: thinking about. James Cameron, the same guy, the same guy.
Speaker 3: He's like, I got raffleson, Like, he's like it's like
Speaker 3: waiting for his next opportunity. It wasn't until the Titanic.
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, what about this time if I
Speaker 3: get the crew exactly? So yeah, So Stay Hungry received
Speaker 3: a limited release on April twenty third, nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 3: It was also listed as being released on April twenty
Speaker 3: fifth in New York City and then May twelfth in
Speaker 3: LA And I have no idea how much it made
Speaker 3: its opening weekend because even the paper where I found
Speaker 3: the box office stuff for the villain hadn't started tracking
Speaker 3: box office numbers yet or like stats or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I searched way too long. That's waste
Speaker 3: way too much time with the research. Like part of
Speaker 3: the reason I'll get this done is like I had
Speaker 3: to stop myself from because I kept finding more articles.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well I gotta read this article now anyway,
Speaker 3: So I like search way too long through newspaper archives,
Speaker 3: which was interesting because they were like, it's cool, it's
Speaker 3: like going back in time. But I didn't find anything.
Speaker 3: It was probably like the old. Like I said before,
Speaker 3: the only place I it's definitely is the variety archives.
Speaker 3: But that's like six hundred bucks a year to access.
Speaker 2: So Jesus christy, but this.
Speaker 3: Podcast will be thriving If I got that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's what's holding this. Yeah, yeah, baby.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so Stay Hungry, Stay Hungry grossed between fourteen point
Speaker 3: six million and twenty four point eight million, which was
Speaker 3: the twenty four was listed on Wikipedia, but it didn't
Speaker 3: have a source. But I also found that twenty four
Speaker 3: million number on moviefone dot com. So we're gonna go
Speaker 3: with that, because if you can't trust mister moviefone, like,
Speaker 3: who are you gonna trust?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably trusted mister moviefione more than my own
Speaker 3: parents when I was a kid. At least he picked
Speaker 3: up the phone when I would call.
Speaker 2: You know, he never lied to you about when the
Speaker 2: movies were.
Speaker 3: Nope, that's not the movie. That's not a theater anymore.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's not what mister movie phone taught me.
Speaker 3: Head And then he's like hello, look on hello Champ,
Speaker 3: and like recording different parts of the movies. When he's like, ye,
Speaker 3: he says Champing, like is the title? I'm like, hello,
Speaker 3: hello Champ. You are special to day. Thanks mister moone.
Speaker 4: Anyway, sorry, I will see what.
Speaker 3: Mister moviphone dot com.
Speaker 2: Also list the but I bet the coonies would be
Speaker 2: your friends.
Speaker 3: I sho would have done that anyway. Okay, So moviefone
Speaker 3: dot com list the budget at five million, which, if true,
Speaker 3: means that the movie was definitely profitable, Beau because.
Speaker 2: Like even twelve fourteen million, Yeah yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 3: Which is weird because even like it seems like a
Speaker 3: lot of people that were involved with it kind of
Speaker 3: implied that it wasn't. Yeah, with Arnold saying in his
Speaker 3: book that you know, the United Artist, the production company,
Speaker 3: the marketing team didn't know how to promote the film,
Speaker 3: which led to poor box office sales.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He says that he and Sally Field went on the
Speaker 3: Mike Douglas Show. When they were on there, they promoted
Speaker 3: the bodybuilding fitness side of the movie when they should
Speaker 3: have been pushing it as a Bob Rafelson film. He
Speaker 3: also says that even at the time, he knew that
Speaker 3: the marketing was embarrassing, but he didn't speak up because
Speaker 3: he just assumed that the studios know what they're doing. So,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, which makes sense. I'm like, okay, cool, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they know what they're doing when they see what yeah,
Speaker 3: what the fuck? But yeah, He also talks about after
Speaker 3: shooting the film that he couldn't get an agent that
Speaker 3: would take him on.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd all tell him like the same stuff that
Speaker 3: he's mentioned before in the few interviews that we've seen,
Speaker 3: which is like his accent scary, his name's too long. Yeah,
Speaker 3: body is strange. But then on top of that, I
Speaker 3: guess he was, which is something here he always leaves out.
Speaker 3: He was insistent on only taking leading roles. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: So the one agent that was willing to take him
Speaker 3: on was was O. J. Simpson's agent. His name was
Speaker 3: Jack Jilardi, who would get oj smaller roles in films
Speaker 3: when he wasn't busy with football, and basically offered to
Speaker 3: do the same thing for Schwarzenegger. But Arnold was like no,
Speaker 3: fuck no, yeah, but yeah, he was finally able to
Speaker 3: find find an agency to take him on after the
Speaker 3: film was finally released, which was the agent. I don't
Speaker 3: remember the name of it, but it was the same
Speaker 3: one that represented at the time Sylvester Stallone and Angelina
Speaker 3: Julie's dad, Oh John Void Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way. Timeline wise, pretty soon after this, that's
Speaker 3: when he has his first meeting with Dino de laurentis
Speaker 3: the one I mentioned in that we talked about in
Speaker 3: Conan the episode where he immediately insults him and he's
Speaker 3: like in imitating him or whatever. So that is right
Speaker 3: around the same time. But he then eventually books that
Speaker 3: job on the street to Saan Francisco right after this man.
Speaker 3: That was after this, yeah, after which he ends up
Speaker 3: deciding to stay away from any like after that role.
Speaker 3: He ends up deciding to stay away from any villain
Speaker 3: roles by the time being, saying in the book that
Speaker 3: it would be easy to be typecast like as a
Speaker 3: villain due to his He gave a few reasons. It
Speaker 3: was his size, his looks, and the accent.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: I mean like the accent.
Speaker 2: Well, it would just be so easy for him to
Speaker 2: end up heavy in any other movie, you know, like
Speaker 2: like a lot of the guys let like do his
Speaker 2: stunts and stuff. Yeah, all those dudes get type cast
Speaker 2: constantly and just do the same thing over and over again.
Speaker 3: Trying to think of someone that's famous. I mean, I
Speaker 3: know names, but it's like, is there anyway I just.
Speaker 4: Like I grew up watching a lot of old movies,
Speaker 4: but the bad guy was always German.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, Like.
Speaker 4: Like Heidi growing up, Heidi, the bad person is Fraulin
Speaker 4: and Rottenmeier. Like how more obvious can you be with
Speaker 4: that name?
Speaker 3: Like that's pretty Sweeten, Well, she's right German people. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's like.
Speaker 2: An inherently uh well two Americans, that's like an inherently
Speaker 2: villainous sounding accent.
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so that's why he didn't want to do that.
Speaker 3: So he was actually turning down roles. What was it
Speaker 3: it was? Uh, he said he got offers like for
Speaker 3: a football player. He mentioned a Nazi soldier or officer,
Speaker 3: and then a few other things. I can't remember those.
Speaker 3: Those the two that I remember. I think a wrestler.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he was able to turn stuff down because
Speaker 3: he was making bringing him four grand a year from
Speaker 3: his mail order business that he had male order business. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which is the first time that I mentioned mentioning.
Speaker 2: This what like supplements or something.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a good question.
Speaker 5: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was uh yeah, I was just
Speaker 3: sending out I think sate lifting stuff. I know it
Speaker 3: was something fitness related, but I don't remember exactly what
Speaker 3: it was. I will find out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe like pamphlets or training videos or
Speaker 2: like bodybuilding equipment.
Speaker 4: Sorry, like mail order workout?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like yeah, dumbbells. The stretchy wrote the Stretchy
Speaker 3: Things resistant Yeah, now.
Speaker 2: Is it resistance once?
Speaker 3: Where you go?
Speaker 2: How work out?
Speaker 3: Geez judgy? Okay. Arnold was also nominated for a Golden
Speaker 3: Globe for Stay Hungry.
Speaker 2: Really, I mean that's not bad. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: considering how like.
Speaker 4: That seems shocking.
Speaker 2: He's in the movie less than I expect for somebody
Speaker 2: won an award I guess, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so it was. It was for the Best
Speaker 3: Debut by a Male Actor category, which I guess is
Speaker 3: no longer. Uh, it's no longer a category. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: got I think it was like nineteen eighty two is
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that makes more sense.
Speaker 3: And that was in Kingsley, so that that you know,
Speaker 3: he's he's in good company. Ben Kingsley won it for Gandhi.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I think that was Gandhi. And then
Speaker 3: Arld Swartz nigger, you know, he's yea Indian or something.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I think he like changed his name too.
Speaker 2: Well, now I don't have to be mad at him
Speaker 2: for the love he was.
Speaker 3: He was born in Krishna Bonie.
Speaker 4: I don't know his father Yorkshire, England.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Scarborough. But he was born, Oh, he was born
Speaker 3: sorry that's his name. Was born, not was born. He
Speaker 3: was born Chris Krishna Bond Banjie. But he is he
Speaker 3: is he is it? Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, his son is a Kenyan born medical doctor.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Golden Globe, which I guess, yeah, like that it's
Speaker 3: not a category anymore in nineteen eight two. But yeah,
Speaker 3: he was up against some interesting competition. Two of them
Speaker 3: I have never heard of and I have sorry, okay,
Speaker 3: so yeah, two have never heard of it, and the
Speaker 3: two that I haven't heard of it I even I
Speaker 3: haven't even heard of the films that are in So
Speaker 3: the first two, which the ones that I haven't heard of,
Speaker 3: were Lenny Baker for Next Stop Greenwich Village and then
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kahn, who was nominated for The Sailor Who Fell
Speaker 3: from Grace with the Sea, which is a long ass
Speaker 3: title for a movie.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought Jonathan Kahn fell from Grace with the Sea.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, Jonathan conn was the actor I see, yeah,
Speaker 3: starring in The Sailor Who fell Grace with the Sea
Speaker 3: and then the other two. I have heard of Truman Capoti.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know he acted.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about him.
Speaker 2: I thought he was a writer.
Speaker 3: He is a writer. I know that. Yeah, he wrote
Speaker 3: Breakfast at Tiffany's.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's racist, got it?
Speaker 3: But I know there's a real bad yellow face thing
Speaker 3: and it's Mickey Rooney.
Speaker 2: Mickey Rooney is an Asian guy and some real like
Speaker 2: looney Tune style racist caricature.
Speaker 3: Ship Yeah, okay. And then the last person was Harvey
Speaker 3: Spencer Stevens, which is the little fucking kid from You
Speaker 3: the Omen.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, gotcha.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that little asshole which we watched that. We watched
Speaker 3: that during Halloween, and it's I wouldn't call it it's
Speaker 3: not scary, but none of those it's not scary.
Speaker 4: There's some questionable slash disturbing aspects, some pretty good effects
Speaker 4: for the seventies.
Speaker 3: When the guys head gets chopped off. Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it was cool, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was super cool what it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it still made me do one of these.
Speaker 3: But like, but like I'm pretty sure, like behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: like story like that kid was a brat. So it's like,
Speaker 3: oh really, I think so, Like I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 3: was like a like he ended up getting the role
Speaker 3: because Richard Donner told him to something about going crazy
Speaker 3: or something, and like he tried to, like he started
Speaker 3: like running up in like attacking Richard Donner or something
Speaker 3: like that, just punched him right in the balls something
Speaker 3: like that. It was like good. So I don't know
Speaker 3: how much acting was involved there, but hey whatever, that's
Speaker 3: it's a natural role. That's how Donald won sometimes anyway.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so Arnold approach being nominated, like he does
Speaker 3: pretty much everything else. He promoted the hell out of
Speaker 3: it and basically tried to sell himself to the Hollywood
Speaker 3: Forum Press. He did this by taking out ads in
Speaker 3: the industry magazines like Variety in the Hollywood Reporter, thanking
Speaker 3: the Hollywood Forum Press for nominating him. But that is
Speaker 3: definitely not all. He also invited the members to a
Speaker 3: dinner in an advanced screening of Pumping Iron, which apparently
Speaker 3: seemed to have an impact because he mentions in the
Speaker 3: book that a lot of the writers enjoyed the movie
Speaker 3: and were pretty complimentary afterwards. And I know this is
Speaker 3: like a common thing, but it still seems it's still
Speaker 3: it's weird to me every time I like read or
Speaker 3: hear anything about people like schmoot like schmoozing, like the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course they do a bunch of like
Speaker 2: four year consideration parties and ship where.
Speaker 3: They yeah, yeah, we'll send you home with prostitutes and
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, just like in the movie.
Speaker 3: Exactly an award.
Speaker 2: Anyway, perfect blow job sound, it's gotta it's gotta hook.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ended up taking his mom with them to the actual ceremony.
Speaker 4: It's got a sensitive society.
Speaker 3: Brought his mom, that's true. He also says that he
Speaker 3: florided with Raquel Welch, which was cool, and he even
Speaker 3: received a compliment about the movie from Henry Winkler.
Speaker 2: Nice stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, himself exactly, who was so at the peak of
Speaker 3: his fondziness at the time that his date for that
Speaker 3: night was actually the jukebox that he's constantly kicking on it.
Speaker 2: I was hoping you were gonna say, Rackuel Welch, but
Speaker 2: uh no, it's just.
Speaker 3: I think I don't know, Like when he mentioned the
Speaker 3: book that Henry Winkler complimented about the movie, I immediately
Speaker 3: popped to like, now Henry Winkler, so it's like an
Speaker 3: old doing it. I was like, wait, no, no, because I
Speaker 3: was thinking about it when I was writing this, So
Speaker 3: that was like, that is definitely fond. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: ye yea yeah, because that's I looked it up. Happy
Speaker 3: Days came out in seventy four, so this is two
Speaker 3: seasons a. Yeah, so this is like super super pizza.
Speaker 4: He's like so he came up and he was like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, hey, before he lives in the attic exactly.
Speaker 3: This is when Richie still had a brother. Don't didn't
Speaker 3: even love Chachi yet. Okay, this is really getting dated.
Speaker 3: Not yet, No one loves Chachi now. Pieces yeah, okay. Anyway.
Speaker 3: He also mentions pelling around with Sylvester Stallone, who started
Speaker 3: Rocky That, which he also wrote, and Arnold says that
Speaker 3: Stallone quote told me enthusiastically that he was writing a
Speaker 3: new movie about wrestlers and that there might be a
Speaker 3: part for me, which I believe ended up becoming the
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy eight film Paradise Alley, which Stillone also directed.
Speaker 2: What oh I said, never heard of it?
Speaker 3: Arify? Yeah, because I was like, wait, did that actually
Speaker 3: get made that sounds like a soap opera name Paradise Alley? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: and he so he had two movies after Rocky and
Speaker 3: Fist and Paradise Alley that he wrote. And I don't
Speaker 3: think he directed Fist, but I know he also directed
Speaker 3: Paradise Alley.
Speaker 4: You know what I think about when you say Paradise Alley,
Speaker 4: I think like, like like a New York alleyway, like
Speaker 4: a really rough and rumbled type of one that's like terrible,
Speaker 4: but palm trees, like maybe a hammock between the dumpsters.
Speaker 3: Anyway, So both Stallone and Schwarzenegger ended up winning a
Speaker 3: Golden Globe that night, which good for them, but especially Rocky.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was good for them, especially Arnold because
Speaker 3: he didn't have a whole lot to work with their Yeah,
Speaker 3: So either way, I think it's pretty safe to say
Speaker 3: that everything kind of worked out pretty darn well for
Speaker 3: the career wise, for not just Arnold, but for like
Speaker 3: a lot of the people involved in the Stay Hungry
Speaker 3: in the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seems like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he had Robert England, who went on to
Speaker 3: spend the nineteen eighties murdering a bunch of teenagers.
Speaker 2: Which is the dream for most actors.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and well that and he also started Nightmare and
Speaker 3: elm Street movies too, so that was good. Actually, no,
Speaker 3: he didn't kill any teenagers, that's the joke. No, but
Speaker 3: he looks like, okay, no, as far as uh, then
Speaker 3: you guy like bread Breath Jidges. Then you got Jeff
Speaker 3: Bridges and Sally Field, who both went on to do
Speaker 3: much bigger projects that same year. That Stay Hunger was
Speaker 3: really with Jeff Bridges starring alongside Jessica Lang and Charles Grodon,
Speaker 3: which all right, good for him. In the nineteen seventy
Speaker 3: five King cong remake was it's the which is but
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was fu Sorry sorry, nineteen seventy six okay, sorry, yes,
Speaker 3: with Jeff Bridges starting alongside Jessica Lang and Charles Groden
Speaker 3: in the nineteen seventy six King congremake, which is the
Speaker 3: one that like he's like in the poster, he's like
Speaker 3: King Kong. Not Jeff Bridges is standing. He's got one
Speaker 3: foot on each of the He's standing on top of
Speaker 3: the twin towers, like he's got one foot on each tower.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen that, Yeah, I know, I
Speaker 2: haven't seen the movie An Fall Down. Of course he
Speaker 2: didn't swat those planes away. There you go, an American
Speaker 2: piece of shit.
Speaker 3: That was actually produced by Arnold's tiny nemesis at the time,
Speaker 3: Dino de Laarentez. So that's cool.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, god, he was everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. And then you got Sally Field starring
Speaker 3: in the nineteen seventy six TV mini series Sybil, which
Speaker 3: had which was a huge role for her and that
Speaker 3: I believe she was actually able to audition for because
Speaker 3: it was being cast by the same gal who brought
Speaker 3: her in for Stay Hungry, Diane Crittendon. Yeah, so the
Speaker 3: same with casting director nice. Yeah. And then a year
Speaker 3: later she did Smoking the Bandit, And I don't think
Speaker 3: we really need to do a career recap because she's
Speaker 3: fucking Sally Field, like except yeah Field, Sorry, she's fucking
Speaker 3: Sally Fields. The same thing I say would probably applies
Speaker 3: to Jeff Bridges. Everyone knows his career and how he
Speaker 3: pretty much turned in. He's like the dude in Real
Speaker 3: Left Now, so yeah.
Speaker 4: Exactly, he's you know, from Tron, So yeah, had.
Speaker 2: A pretty lucrative eighties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Starman Tron other stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't know Disney stuff.
Speaker 3: No, I think that was that was earlier.
Speaker 4: No, that's what I'm saying, earlier, like Disney stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, because I think that's Kurt Kurt Russell.
Speaker 4: I get those two confused all the time.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm pretty sure that's Kurt Russell.
Speaker 2: K Russell was a Disney kid.
Speaker 4: Are those two so interchangeable?
Speaker 2: Because they look similar really, a very young I wouldn't
Speaker 2: say they look two similar as like adult men, but
Speaker 2: a young Kurt Russell very much looks like Jeff Bridges
Speaker 2: did in this movie.
Speaker 4: Okay, wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, which that's Jeff Bridges. Okay,
Speaker 4: there you go.
Speaker 3: He didn't work with Sally Field again a few years later,
Speaker 3: in the nineteen eighty two romantic comedy kiss Me Goodbye.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, good for them.
Speaker 2: I hope it was funny this time.
Speaker 4: It sounds like a comedy.
Speaker 3: Actually, yes, says comedy fantasy romance. The ghost of a
Speaker 3: dead husband Hans's wife as she moved back to the
Speaker 3: house in New York. She's I'm gonna watch that.
Speaker 4: She actually does say comedy fantasy romance.
Speaker 2: I was like ghost with a different cat.
Speaker 3: She's about to marry an Egyptologist there in Egypt. Who's
Speaker 3: the ghost? Uh, James com looks like he's the ghost,
Speaker 3: So I'm assuming that Jeff Bridges is the Egyptologist.
Speaker 4: Okay, it just seems like the most un serious gyptologist out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what you got pyramids man? And uh, there's
Speaker 3: the coy exactly there and uh what else?
Speaker 2: God, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Anyway. So Yeah, like I was saying, a lot of
Speaker 3: State Hungry's principal cast ended up doing pretty darn well
Speaker 3: for themselves career wise. However, the same cannot be said
Speaker 3: about director Bob Rafelson, who would eventually experience some major
Speaker 3: setbacks career wise, which were mostly due to his own
Speaker 3: dumb fuck actions on account of end being both a
Speaker 3: shitty person and kind of a hothead. Yeah, by the way,
Speaker 3: just throwing this out there, because I know I've been
Speaker 3: shitting on them the whole time. I know I haven't
Speaker 3: been too kind to Bob Rayfilson up to this point,
Speaker 3: but it's mostly because one of the first things I
Speaker 3: found out when I began research in this movie pretty
Speaker 3: much made me like dislike him.
Speaker 2: From the start, which is understandable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it only got worse when I started reading
Speaker 3: more about him and finding all these other stuff like
Speaker 3: like all this like the stuff that just mean kind
Speaker 3: of a crap egg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird that they're just kept being more shitty
Speaker 2: things to find.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would it wasn't the one time entity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just saying he was. He was more.
Speaker 2: He's a multifaceted ass He's not an asshole in just
Speaker 2: one way.
Speaker 3: But yeah. So the thing that I found to start
Speaker 3: the Wikipedia page for Stay Hungry is very small, but
Speaker 3: one of the things they definitely have on there is
Speaker 3: an interaction that happened with Sallyfield. So apparently he allegedly
Speaker 3: had an affair with Sally Field during production, which like
Speaker 3: you know, it happens he was married, but again whatever
Speaker 3: Hollywood do whatever. Yeah, but the way the whole thing
Speaker 3: came about and just like happened and everything is just
Speaker 3: super gross and just pretty much cemented me like, oh,
Speaker 3: fuck this guy. And then reading the other book, the
Speaker 3: book about the all the crazy shit in the seventies anyway,
Speaker 3: and just a heads up that the next few minutes
Speaker 3: contained details about their affair as well as include discussions
Speaker 3: of sexual misconduct. So if you prefer to skip that,
Speaker 3: just fast forward to the next six minutes in about
Speaker 3: twenty seconds and it'll get you to the next section.
Speaker 3: But yeah, So, as far as how Bob Rafelson became
Speaker 3: involved with Sally Field, it actually kind of goes back
Speaker 3: to when she was auditioning for the movie, which we
Speaker 3: mostly covered in the last episode, but if you guys
Speaker 3: can actually remember that far back, we talked about how
Speaker 3: Bob Rafelson was supposedly a complete dick bag from pretty
Speaker 3: much the moment Sally Field derived for that first audition,
Speaker 3: with him first throwing a tantrum because he didn't want
Speaker 3: an audition her, and then about a week later calling
Speaker 3: her up to invite her back for a second audition,
Speaker 3: but doing it in like the most condescendingly dickheadish way possible. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so she does her second audition, goes well, but she
Speaker 3: says a couple of days later that Bob Rafelson called
Speaker 3: her again, this time telling her that he was having
Speaker 3: hesitations about hiring her because he didn't like the fact
Speaker 3: that he'd be hiring the Flying.
Speaker 2: Nune so such a fucking ass. He was probably trying
Speaker 2: to get her to fucking quit, like to not audition,
Speaker 2: because I just after telling her, like you were easily
Speaker 2: the best actress of the five. But it's surprising what
Speaker 2: I want to Yeah, surprisingly, but you don't look like
Speaker 2: who I want to cast. But anyway, I'll see you
Speaker 2: for a second audition anyway, And then that audition presumably
Speaker 2: goes well, and then he still is like, I still
Speaker 2: don't want to cast you. I don't know such a.
Speaker 3: You don't That makes sense with what happens next, because
Speaker 3: he then allegedly asked if she'd come to his house
Speaker 3: for one more meeting before he left for Birmingham the
Speaker 3: following morning. Jesus Christ, Yeah, which she does, but so
Speaker 3: she says he ended up in his room and eventually
Speaker 3: he supposedly tells her to take her shirt off because
Speaker 3: you know, like there's a nude scene in the film,
Speaker 3: and how else is he going to know how to
Speaker 3: shoot that scene unless he sees her moves, you know,
Speaker 3: which is correct. He says that he actually like his
Speaker 3: actual reason, that he gave.
Speaker 2: The dumbest fucking reason I've ever heard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he then asks her to quote, go to
Speaker 3: the closet and use whatever scarves and shirts I could
Speaker 3: find to play dress up, and she does that, and
Speaker 3: the meeting ends with Bob Rafilson, supposedly telling her that
Speaker 3: she's got the part, but only if she kisses him,
Speaker 3: because you know, you can't hire anyone who's not a
Speaker 3: good kisser. By the way, everything that allegedly took place
Speaker 3: at Bob Rafelson's house was only revealed like six years
Speaker 3: ago with the release of Sally Field's autobiography in twenty eighteen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Bob Rafelson denied it because, of course, sure, saying that
Speaker 3: he never had anyone kiss him for a part and
Speaker 3: calling it totally untrue, which, okay, sure, dude. Like, first
Speaker 3: of all, I won't go into some of the shitty,
Speaker 3: unwanted advances that are mentioned in the Easy Writer Raging
Speaker 3: Bulls book, mostly because of how often, like I read
Speaker 3: that some of the events in the book were either
Speaker 3: exaggerated or outright lies. But whatever, Like, okay, so we'll
Speaker 3: not go by that, because there's like some stuff from
Speaker 3: like fuck this dude. Yeah, but even without that, reason
Speaker 3: to lie about.
Speaker 2: It exactly, that's my first thought. She has had such
Speaker 2: a successful career more so than him, so like insanely
Speaker 2: more so than him, Why the fuck would she? Yeah,
Speaker 2: what what possible benefit could there be too lying about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know to.
Speaker 2: Bringing up a director that nobody even fucking remembers anymore,
Speaker 2: Why the fuck would she do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What possible?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's not like Bob Rayfilson, who like comes
Speaker 3: up as some super chill dude that you know, has
Speaker 3: a ton of respect for women. So it's not like
Speaker 3: he'd be like, you know, like it might not be true.
Speaker 3: He's he's usually pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 5: I can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because even Arnold said in his book that when
Speaker 3: Raychelson hired Sally Field, he tried to use it as
Speaker 3: a teaching moment, saying, quote, you see, I've been auditioning
Speaker 3: all these girls, and the one who is actually the
Speaker 3: best is the flying nun. I mean, Arnold didn't know
Speaker 3: what the hell he was talking about because he's never
Speaker 3: heard the Flynn before. But like once Rayfelson explained, it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: I got it. But then he like spews out some
Speaker 3: more garbage by telling Arnold that everybody thinks that they
Speaker 3: know what a girl has to do to get the part,
Speaker 3: that you get the part by being in the director,
Speaker 3: and then says, quote, there are girls with big tits
Speaker 3: and great hair and great bodies who came in and
Speaker 3: offered that to me. But in the end, the flying
Speaker 3: nun got the job. She doesn't have big tits, she
Speaker 3: doesn't have a carbaceous body, and she didn't offer to
Speaker 3: fuck me, but she has what I needed most of
Speaker 3: the part, which is talent unquote, and like, no, that
Speaker 3: just made me feel like he the fact that she
Speaker 3: didn't do that was like, Okay, Like.
Speaker 2: A fucking normal person who doesn't have these thoughts doesn't
Speaker 2: bring that shit up and talk about them in the
Speaker 2: first place, Like that's not that's not a thing you
Speaker 2: feel the need to bring up in conversation if you
Speaker 2: if it's not a thing you think about regularly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And which again this is allegedly because it's in
Speaker 3: two people that aren't hymns autobiographies. But I don't know
Speaker 3: that gross audition wasn't even the end of it, because
Speaker 3: she also said that she ended up having an affair
Speaker 3: with Raffleson during production, which she said she had a
Speaker 3: hard time with dude to Raffleson behaving differently behind closed
Speaker 3: doors versus when they were on set, where he would
Speaker 3: demean her in like shitty little ways, like constantly telling
Speaker 3: her just to be sexier, be sexier, and then one
Speaker 3: time even stopping filming and having everyone on set vote
Speaker 3: as to whether or not they thought she was sexy.
Speaker 2: Jesus, yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 3: His wife actually ended up leaving him during production with
Speaker 3: that book, saying that it was because she found out
Speaker 3: about he been cheating on her for a while apparently
Speaker 3: co according the book and whoever. But I think she
Speaker 3: found out about salad like the stuff with Seally Field
Speaker 3: because she worked on the movie. She was a production designer.
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, yeah, his wife's name was Toby, by
Speaker 3: the way, and.
Speaker 4: Like I guess it was not Tobey.
Speaker 3: Sorry, no, no, no sorry. When I read that she left him,
Speaker 3: my first thought was, like when she found out about
Speaker 3: the affair, she was just like the whole time, the
Speaker 3: whole time, we need to leave. I need to leave.
Speaker 3: We have to go, we have to go now we're serious.
Speaker 3: That was seriously the first thing, like I thought of that,
Speaker 3: and thew was like I got to write that down
Speaker 3: and then forgot it.
Speaker 4: Anyway, you know what, nobody's going to get that.
Speaker 3: I'm sure someone will get it, so in all serious
Speaker 3: like joking aside, because yeah, yeah, in addition to learning
Speaker 3: about this and all the other gross like and or
Speaker 3: asshole shit that Bob Riefelson allegedly did. I also came
Speaker 3: across one of the reasons why not too many people
Speaker 3: outside of the film community really know about him career wise,
Speaker 3: if they've even heard of him at all. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure it won't really come as a surprise to
Speaker 3: either of you that it's a result of him once
Speaker 3: again acting like a completely irrational asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So apparently he was supposed to direct a nineteen eighty
Speaker 3: film called Brubaker, which starred Robert Effort and was produced
Speaker 3: by Fox Studios, who I guess had promised him complete
Speaker 3: control and no studio in interference.
Speaker 4: Sounds like a sweet deal, yeah.
Speaker 3: Except for the fact that, like about nine days into
Speaker 3: the production or not even that, an executive named Richard
Speaker 3: Berger or Dick Burger if you will.
Speaker 2: I say, Joe would have a field day with.
Speaker 3: That, showed up to a set and demanded to meet
Speaker 3: like a meeting with Bob Rafelson. Rafelson asked why, Dick
Speaker 3: Burger said anyway, he said, quote, it's about your career,
Speaker 3: and Rafelson allegedly responded by hitting him over the head
Speaker 3: with an astray Yeah, an astray Christ Yeah, so it
Speaker 3: just comes from the Esquit. It's like a twenty nineteen
Speaker 3: Esquire article and it's it's a profile of him, so
Speaker 3: like he's being interviewed for it. But yes, because what
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, like if if you were in film school,
Speaker 3: your dick is so hard for this guy. I don't
Speaker 3: get it, but I'm pretty stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hey.
Speaker 3: There's just no yeah rude, Well, don't be so stupid.
Speaker 3: I don't know what's tell you, but uh yeah. So
Speaker 3: according to that that profile they were doing, they're basically
Speaker 3: talking about his career and that's part of it because
Speaker 3: he's supposed to direct this movie. Yeah, and so basically
Speaker 3: what happens is the guy came to set, he started
Speaker 3: like questioning the cast, asking a bunch of questions, and
Speaker 3: then started watching the dailies. And then after that, I
Speaker 3: told Bob Rayfilson that he wants to have a meeting
Speaker 3: with him, and Bob Ravelson asked why. He said the
Speaker 3: it's about your career, and Bob Rafleson said that he
Speaker 3: responded with, uh, what about my career and kind of
Speaker 3: like stepped forward and like kind of like shoved him
Speaker 3: a little bit. That's what That's what he said, And
Speaker 3: then it's basically like according to Rafelson, according to uh
Speaker 3: Dick Burger, he hit him with the fucking astray in
Speaker 3: the head.
Speaker 2: Jesus Chris, Yes.
Speaker 3: Which again, that's a big lie if it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's that's a hell of a thing
Speaker 2: to lie about if you're.
Speaker 3: Going to potato potato, Yeah, potato potato. But like also
Speaker 3: that's a very easy thing to prove too. You're like,
Speaker 3: look at my fucking head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's my first thought is like, like, I know,
Speaker 2: Hollywood is kind of fucked up in that, Like, if
Speaker 2: you're famous enough, you can get away with shit, But
Speaker 2: how do you physically assault somebody.
Speaker 3: Like you attack an executive exactly?
Speaker 2: How do you physically assault somebody of that like standing
Speaker 2: and get away with it?
Speaker 3: Come on, man, you need to understand.
Speaker 2: That's what PA's are for, I know exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so uh yeah, so he hit him in the
Speaker 3: fucking head, supposedly, allegedly.
Speaker 2: And ash trees back then were glass.
Speaker 4: It was right, Yeah, yeah, Like I'm thinking you're quintessential,
Speaker 4: like like one you would see it, well, not my
Speaker 4: grandma's house, but my aunt's house.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know maybe he is trying to
Speaker 3: give him a cigarette back and.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, and his hand slipped exactly.
Speaker 3: He's like, I was just trying to get him a
Speaker 3: cigarette back. I was trying to show him my art
Speaker 3: that I made. Look at his ass tray shoving in
Speaker 3: his face. You can't fire me. Look at his ass
Speaker 3: tray anyway, For some reason they did fire him, which
Speaker 3: come on, really fucking trauma cleans.
Speaker 2: Goddamn PC studio.
Speaker 3: Exactly nine days in he got fired, with Rafelson claiming
Speaker 3: he was then basically blackballed in the film industry. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, weird, So, yeah, he was black in the
Speaker 3: film industry, Like even though he did direct the nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty one Jack Nicholson film The Postman Always Rings Twice
Speaker 3: and he has a few more films past that, but
Speaker 3: it kind of looks like his career never really seem
Speaker 3: to recover after that whole astray incident. You can't hit
Speaker 3: Dick Berger, yeah, with an astray, which is basically trying
Speaker 3: to say you gotta hit him. Hit him with some
Speaker 3: pickles or something. That's the class. Yeah, that's the classic
Speaker 3: pickles and bacon. I don't know anything not an astray
Speaker 3: though it's Mustard. Yeah, to hit me with a mustard bottle,
Speaker 3: anything but an astray. Bobby Elson did direct the music
Speaker 3: video for All Night Long by Lionel Richie though, so
Speaker 3: so yeah, there's that Lionel Richard. Lionel Richard, Lionel Richard.
Speaker 4: Never mind, why do I talk?
Speaker 3: Okay, So that's it for the production stuff. You're ready
Speaker 3: to check out some of that non existent promo material?
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, all right? Uh yeah, I couldn't really find
Speaker 3: anything for this movie, so I have a few random
Speaker 3: clips for you guys in Yeah, actually that's sort of
Speaker 3: not true because his first one does have to do
Speaker 3: with the movie. It's from a twenty ten Oscar roundup
Speaker 3: hosted by Newsweek, and they've got a pretty prominent group
Speaker 3: of actors involved. You've got Sandra Bullock, whatdy Harrelson, Gaberie Sidibay,
Speaker 3: the actress that plays Pressures, like from the movie Pressure.
Speaker 3: I think that's a GABERI gab GABORI I don't know
Speaker 3: how to see.
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: She's also in Tower Heighs too, you know I'm talking about? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: Carrie Mulligan, who I know is an actress.
Speaker 4: I know who that is?
Speaker 2: God, I I know the name, but I just can't.
Speaker 4: She's in Pride and Prejudice, and she in two thousand Pence.
Speaker 4: She was in like a European paper film. I don't
Speaker 4: remember what it was.
Speaker 2: I know she's been in like one thing that she.
Speaker 3: Was in Greg Gatsby, because she plays like the the
Speaker 3: main uh yeah, Daisy. Yeah, but I looked through her
Speaker 3: credits and I didn't notice that I did nothing.
Speaker 4: I know who?
Speaker 3: Okay? Anyway, Oh yeah, so Carrie Mulligan and then the
Speaker 3: last uh fucking Morgan Freeman's in there too, so yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a good uh little panel or whatever. Jeff Bridges
Speaker 3: is also part of it, got it? And yeah. So
Speaker 3: host David Ansen asks him about working with Arnold in
Speaker 3: Stay Hungry, and Jeff Bridges tells him about a very
Speaker 3: interesting sequence that they filmed that ended up getting cut
Speaker 3: from the movie.
Speaker 6: Made a movie a long time ago called Stay Hungry,
Speaker 6: and I think it was the first time that Arnold
Speaker 6: Schwarzenegger was in a movie. Oh yeah, very good playing
Speaker 6: her body Belty. Oh he was so good in that.
Speaker 6: It was great to watch The Predator again the day
Speaker 6: Oh oh right, yeah, the shot of Arnold walking through
Speaker 6: the jungle holding with one hand his fifty candle machine gun,
Speaker 6: and the whole focus.
Speaker 3: Of the shot was on his bicep. I realized this
Speaker 3: whole thing was about his bicep.
Speaker 6: Walking through the jungle, hold of the thing. I mean,
Speaker 6: I don't know, a story popped into my mind, and
Speaker 6: you might want to delete this, but like, I feel
Speaker 6: like I want to tell it to you. Guys. You know,
Speaker 6: probably the funniest thing that's ever happened to me in
Speaker 6: a movie happened to me.
Speaker 4: In that movie.
Speaker 6: We're doing this scene and the premise of the movie
Speaker 6: just real quick, and Sally feels first movie I thought,
Speaker 6: and Sally was Arnold's girlfriend, and now now I'm a
Speaker 6: rich guy and I'm kind of taking Sally away. But
Speaker 6: Arnold is playing this bodybuilder who's also a fiddle player
Speaker 6: and also very spiritual with a great and he's kicking
Speaker 6: honey in this part man now, and it's also training.
Speaker 6: He's also helping my character train, and it's the scene.
Speaker 6: Basically the scene is me saying, hey, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 6: taking your girl, and he said, no, no, no problem,
Speaker 6: right now? Can I can I get up just to
Speaker 6: show this for a second, Yeah, Ca and so the
Speaker 6: cameras about where this camera is and the exercise that
Speaker 6: we're doing. I'm like this and over a thing like this,
Speaker 6: and the camera's leg is aren't sitting on my back
Speaker 6: with his legs hanging that is, and we shoot the scene.
Speaker 6: Now we go see daily and I had no idea
Speaker 6: that this was what the camera was seeing. What it
Speaker 6: looks like. I can imagine. This looks like my legs
Speaker 6: are his legs. His legs are my leg for doing
Speaker 6: toe raised. It looks like it looks like he's standing
Speaker 6: in my legs. He's got me lifted up and he's just.
Speaker 1: Giving it to me, saying.
Speaker 3: I saw that.
Speaker 6: I could not believe it. And he gets off and see.
Speaker 3: And they cut it out. It's not in the movie.
Speaker 3: You're not going to get one shot.
Speaker 6: It's just like, oh, incredible.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's like clip. Uh yeah. Just like first
Speaker 3: of all, the look on uh get that gab Gabby
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, the look in her face when he's when
Speaker 3: he's doing starts doing like because he starts doing like
Speaker 3: he gets up and like hip thrusting. Yeah, he starts
Speaker 3: public trust like doing public drust. But the look on
Speaker 3: her face when she starts when he's doing this, just shocked, like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. Like the girls kind of looked in control,
Speaker 3: even though Sandra Bullock was kind of laughing and carry
Speaker 3: Out was laughing too, But the guys thought it was funny,
Speaker 3: especially Yeahlson at the end funny.
Speaker 4: It looked like everybody look kind of like sleepy or bored,
Speaker 4: and then a sudden everybody's.
Speaker 3: Like he this is Jeff Bridges these things. Also, it's
Speaker 3: I just think it's what it's an oscar round table.
Speaker 3: He's talking about that exactly.
Speaker 4: That's also why is that the movie, like out of
Speaker 4: all the movies brought up to him, like, that's the one.
Speaker 4: That's the one that you were like, I gotta know
Speaker 4: about this one.
Speaker 3: Maybe he knows that story. I don't know. I saw
Speaker 3: a story in something else too that it was written. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 3: the thought of Morgan Freeman watching Predator is just great,
Speaker 3: just like hanging out at watching TV, flipping through channels, flipping.
Speaker 4: Through I hope he narrates him just.
Speaker 3: Being like oh fuck yes, as he's like the Hunters
Speaker 3: on curious if you watched the whole thing or just
Speaker 3: like this movie, they were in fact not sick anyway, okay,
Speaker 3: so moving on the next one also kind of sort
Speaker 3: of has to do with the movie. So I guess
Speaker 3: I kind of lied when I said I didn't find
Speaker 3: anything movie. But yeah, So it's a twenty twelve interview
Speaker 3: Arnold did for Google Play Presents to promote the release.
Speaker 2: Of his book.
Speaker 3: Okay, he makes a quick mention of doing Stay Hungry
Speaker 3: as kind of like a segue on his way to
Speaker 3: talking about Conan the Barbarian every time. And there's a
Speaker 3: story he tells that we've heard before, but we haven't
Speaker 3: heard it directly from Arnold, so got it.
Speaker 5: In nineteen seventy five, I remember that Bob Rayferson who
Speaker 5: did Five Easy Pieces and Easy Right and those movies.
Speaker 5: He came to me and said, I want to do
Speaker 5: the movie Stay Hungry, and I want you and Sally
Speaker 5: Fields from Jeff Bridgets Start. I said him myself, man
Speaker 5: with this director I haven't made. And right after that
Speaker 5: we did pumping on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much all you had to say about
Speaker 3: Stay Hungry. So let's give forward a little bit to
Speaker 3: hear his Conan story.
Speaker 5: And then Ed Pressman came to me and said, I
Speaker 5: just bought the Conan rights and I signed the deal
Speaker 5: with him, So I mean I had it made. I mean,
Speaker 5: there I was in nineteen eighty doing Conan the Barbarian.
Speaker 5: Dina the Lorenta is producing ed Pressman producing.
Speaker 6: There's another great story in the book where you had
Speaker 6: an early meeting with Dino de Lorentis and it didn't
Speaker 6: go so well.
Speaker 5: Well, that was different because dinner de Lorente said an
Speaker 5: office and he wanted me to be in dog Savage
Speaker 5: And I walked in and I always kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: have a a mouth that sometimes it was a little
Speaker 5: bit too fast and I step on myself. It's I
Speaker 5: walked into the office and I saw Dino standing behind.
Speaker 3: His desk and it was this huge desk.
Speaker 5: One night golden, kind of like French looking or Italian looking,
Speaker 5: I don't know what, but it was gigantic and Dino
Speaker 5: the only thing that stood out was kind of his
Speaker 5: chest and his head because he's a little guy. He
Speaker 5: is a really short guy. So I looked in. I
Speaker 5: walked in this office, and I looked in and says, hi, Tina,
Speaker 5: why does a little guy like you need such a
Speaker 5: big desk? And Totino the horrendas you never say you little, right,
Speaker 5: because he saw himself as a giant. So he looked
Speaker 5: at me and he says, ah, that's not an agger.
Speaker 5: You have an accent.
Speaker 3: I cannot use it you ah.
Speaker 5: And I said again, stupidly, who is talking about having
Speaker 5: an accent? I mean, look, listen to you, you were Nazi.
Speaker 5: He walked away because I had a German accent. So
Speaker 5: that was the end of that. So I left the
Speaker 5: office and my agent came up to me, grabbed me
Speaker 5: really forceful over my arm, and he said to me,
Speaker 5: he says, I've been an agent for fifteen years. This
Speaker 5: meeting was exactly one minute and fourteen seconds. It was
Speaker 5: the shortest meeting we've ever had. You just fucked everything up.
Speaker 5: God damn it. It took me months to get in here.
Speaker 5: So that's how the relationship started with Dino. But then
Speaker 5: when he bought Conan, he came to Spain where'll we shooting?
Speaker 5: And the third day of filming, after he saw the
Speaker 5: day list the footage should be filmed, he came up
Speaker 5: to me and he said that swazeneg you were cone.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 5: And Millius came to me, the director, and he says,
Speaker 5: this is the greatest compliment that he can ever get
Speaker 5: he said, you're coner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I need to look up an interview with
Speaker 3: Dino de Laurentes because like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if you just had a tick.
Speaker 2: And Arnold just makes fun of him for.
Speaker 4: Me, yeah, to see his opinion.
Speaker 3: Well, no, just like how he talks, because now I'm
Speaker 3: like curious, like why is he doing that? Is he
Speaker 3: actually doing that's so weird.
Speaker 2: I was like, I've heard a lot of Italian impressions,
Speaker 2: not one of them as a vocal tick like that,
Speaker 2: not one.
Speaker 3: Of It's just like that's like it's like a Mario
Speaker 3: Brothers thing right there or something like.
Speaker 4: That's like like his neck or back keep going like that.
Speaker 2: It doesn't that's exactly what it sounds like, like he
Speaker 2: just had really bad problems.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, like we've heard that before.
Speaker 2: But it's well, sure, but it's really really funny to
Speaker 2: hear the uh the impression. It wasn't now Arnold could
Speaker 2: be in trouble instead of us exactly.
Speaker 3: Okay, And then before we watched the last one, I
Speaker 3: had something for you guys that I forgot to add
Speaker 3: when we did Kindergarten cop and I think I may
Speaker 3: have mentioned it. It's a twenty twelve crack dot com
Speaker 3: article that includes a bunch of random stories from Arnold's
Speaker 3: longtime stunt double Peter Kent, who he actually doubled for
Speaker 3: him in fifteen different movies. And I think I already
Speaker 3: told one of those, one of his stories, the one
Speaker 3: about him getting hurd on a stunt during a racer
Speaker 3: that it ended up like that ended his career, basically,
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So anyway, I almost asked the one that got hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the one that got hurt. So he
Speaker 3: and he was also arnold stunt double on Kindergarten Cop.
Speaker 3: And he starts off the story by talking about how
Speaker 3: he and Arnold would prank each other and how he'd
Speaker 3: make food for them, how Peter Kent would make food
Speaker 3: for Arnold like spaghetti basically, And I have a quote
Speaker 3: from the article here, but there's a funny little part
Speaker 3: right before he starts talking about Kindergarten Cop that I
Speaker 3: wanted to start off with because it made me laugh.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so yeah, he says, quote, I often made
Speaker 3: the guy spaghetti when I visited his house where we'd
Speaker 3: look at scripts together. We'd hang out on the grass
Speaker 3: that choppers would arrive, paparazzi leaning out, and Arnold will
Speaker 3: be like, get down, we have to go inside. They
Speaker 3: want to try to nap photos of me in my
Speaker 3: bathing suit. I don't know why that was funny to me.
Speaker 2: In his bathing suit eating spaghetti.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he continues by saying, when we were working
Speaker 3: on Kindergarten Cop, he was playing opposite Penelope and Miller,
Speaker 3: who was a bit of a pena deal anyway. It
Speaker 3: was her first Row movie, but she was ordering people around,
Speaker 3: especially the stunt guys. So, knowing that you had a
Speaker 3: scene together in a small, confined space for a long time,
Speaker 3: I made some spaghetti sauce for Arnold. I juiced up
Speaker 3: broccoli and Brussels sprouse and cauliflowered anything that gives you gas,
Speaker 3: and I poured it into the sauce and gave it
Speaker 3: to him for lunch. When they did lines, he began
Speaker 3: farting uncontrollably. Penelope complained of the director is saying, and
Speaker 3: that is him quoting her, I can't work with this.
Speaker 3: It's horrific and it stakes he just won't stop. The
Speaker 3: experishes by saying Arnold came up to me and grabbed
Speaker 3: me by the shoulders and said, Peter, oh no, what
Speaker 3: have you done to me? Yeah, he's like, somehow that
Speaker 3: was at the end of my career.
Speaker 2: But with fart since the spursed altar that sentence.
Speaker 4: That's that's not the first actress that's complained about. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so if a caes that happened in the days, right, So.
Speaker 3: If he's already having trouble like normally, then like if
Speaker 3: he gets something like that, like someone gassing him something. Yeah, Cassie,
Speaker 3: it's got to be bad. Arnold take Bino Bino good stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I've heard of it. You should be
Speaker 4: the spokesperson, though. Yeah. I think he would be good
Speaker 4: at it, with the accent and everything. He takes the.
Speaker 3: Gas out is that there is that their slogan.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just thought that that would sound
Speaker 4: like a Arnold thing to say.
Speaker 2: It does does sound like a pino.
Speaker 3: It won't be back, I got anyway. I like that one, okay.
Speaker 3: And then this last one is a random one, but
Speaker 3: it's a twenty twelve clip of Danny DeVito on The
Speaker 3: Graham Norton Show talking about Twins two. So he talked
Speaker 3: about Eddie Murphy being the third Twin before Graham Norton
Speaker 3: asks about the long gas between the two movies, and
Speaker 3: his response is funny anyway.
Speaker 2: The first one was I think nineteen eighty eight. So
Speaker 2: what it's taken so long?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, he became governor of the state of California.
Speaker 7: That was the stupidest thing in the world. I'm always
Speaker 7: pitching ideas, trying to get some movies made or whatever
Speaker 7: I'm doing, and I'm and I had them over my
Speaker 7: house for lunch and I said, you know, I had
Speaker 7: this idea for you know, a twins too. This was
Speaker 7: way back then, and we were talking and he said
Speaker 7: to me, you know that people have been asking him
Speaker 7: to become He's going to be made her up for
Speaker 7: governor of the state of California. And I just got
Speaker 7: it's so depressed. I said, this is ridiculous. Why are
Speaker 7: you going to do that?
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 7: First of all, I was thinking, I wasn't really thinking
Speaker 7: about the state, you know, and how how could this
Speaker 7: guy run the state of California.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about, like, how much money.
Speaker 7: It's going to cost me if he doesn't do this movie.
Speaker 2: So I said to him, I said, Arnold, you're going
Speaker 2: to do this.
Speaker 7: You're gonna get up in the morning and you're gonna
Speaker 7: have a breakfast meeting if you're the if you're the governor,
Speaker 7: you're gonna have a brunch meeting. You have lunch with somebody.
Speaker 7: Then you got a meeting the afternoon. Then you got
Speaker 7: to figure out this and the fiscal that and the loser,
Speaker 7: all of this stuff.
Speaker 2: By the time you go to you come home, it's.
Speaker 7: Gonna, you know, be a dead man. I said, look
Speaker 7: at this Twins too, Governor.
Speaker 2: It turns out I was right.
Speaker 4: I thought they were doing Tracy Morgan there.
Speaker 3: This is twenty twelve, and they're not doing it at
Speaker 3: all anymore. Yeah, Like since Ivan Ryman died and Jason
Speaker 3: Raymond hates comedy, does he I have no idea, but
Speaker 3: that seems weird. Uh Swartz the hare said he stopped it,
Speaker 3: so he's.
Speaker 2: Got I just don't know how he would do that.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know either. That's weird that he would have.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I guess like he must have,
Speaker 3: Like maybe he does.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense, like he would have to it
Speaker 3: would have to be passed down him or maybe he's
Speaker 3: a producer going to be a producer on it or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like.
Speaker 4: I just assumed he was in control of his stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, right men like Ivan Rightman would have
Speaker 2: had to have owned some sort of some part of
Speaker 2: the original movie. Like yeah, if it were to get
Speaker 2: passed down to him, Ivan Rightman would have had to
Speaker 2: own like the creative rights to something, whether it's the
Speaker 2: characters or whatever. Yeah, that seems very unlikely to be
Speaker 2: for a nineteen eighty eight movie.
Speaker 3: Well they did, I like remember they did, uh that
Speaker 3: split because they made the deal with the studio that
Speaker 3: was like where they would get a percentage of the
Speaker 3: sales they'd forego their their salaries. Sure that doesn't that's yeah,
Speaker 3: that's different.
Speaker 2: That doesn't usually include creative rights. Yeah, like that doesn't
Speaker 2: usually include I don't know.
Speaker 3: But he hem saying or blamed it on Jason Rightman,
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Yeah, maybe he just was pissed
Speaker 3: because you like caught him kissing when you're supposed to
Speaker 3: be like like, there was a fire, it was a
Speaker 3: there's a fire alarm.
Speaker 2: There was a fire. Yeah, should have been that was
Speaker 2: a real fire.
Speaker 3: You should have been outside you shouldn't have been making
Speaker 3: out in the in that room with the girl. You
Speaker 3: should not have been doing that. That was wrong, and
Speaker 3: all yelled at him, but this is like, you know,
Speaker 3: he's never really let it go since then.
Speaker 2: He's like, what are you doing, you little idiot?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I thought you meant Jason rightman? Never let it go
Speaker 2: like man, I was late.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, yeah, bitch, I'll never make a movie with that.
Speaker 3: Abut to make a bucking motherfucker anyway. Okay, so that's
Speaker 3: it for the promo stuff and for the production stuff.
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, So well that's gonna do it for this episode.
Speaker 2: So join us next time when we.
Speaker 3: Do the summary, I think, yeah, the summary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna do the summary. Sure, Yeah, anyway, join
Speaker 2: us next time. And I guess there's really just one
Speaker 2: thing left to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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