WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:12.919 Tape Deck Media. 2 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:17.440 Hello, and welcome to see you at the Potty Richter. 3 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:21.000 My name is Chris Chapman. And with me, as always 4 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:25.239 is my co host Aaron Frescus. Hello, and with me 5 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:30.760 as occasionally is a guest co host Eric A. Shasky. Hello, 6 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:35.200 and today we are going to continue talking about the 7 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:42.759 production of Arnold's nineteen seventy six Southern vehicle Stay Hungry. 8 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:44.200 What's a Southern vehicle? 9 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:46.640 Is that like a like the General Lee, I think 10 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:49.679 essentially nineteen seventy six generally. 11 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:51.560 I was trying to think of another Southern vehicle. It 12 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:55.479 just like a Beverly Hillbilly's like a fucking jalopie. 13 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.479 No, like I mean you say southern. The first thing 14 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:01.520 that comes to mind is like gone with the wind. 15 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:05.439 So a horse. He's talking about a Southern. 16 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:10.280 Vehicle covered wagon covered Yeah, okay. 17 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:13.239 That's orgon trail work trails. 18 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:14.959 North, isn't it? Or did they starting? 19 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:17.719 I don't remember where they started, actually, I don't know. 20 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:20.040 That's like it was like a little house on the prairie. 21 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:23.319 The little house on the prairie take place the prairie, dumbass. 22 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:27.879 I think they move around. 23 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:33.079 Yeah. Also, Joe's still said the. 24 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:34.760 Last episode, and we're just continuing. 25 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:38.000 He's still where he is. He'll be back, he'll be 26 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:38.799 back for the summary. 27 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.000 He's definitely alive. 28 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.879 Yeah, definitely closed. 29 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:49.280 The picture with today's. 30 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:54.000 Exactly doesn't sound like sketchy. He is totally alive. 31 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:04.480 So today we're gonna sure anyway, Today we're going to 32 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.840 finish up the production info with some of the shooting details, 33 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:11.639 how this movie and its reception affected the various careers 34 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:14.680 of everyone who worked on it, and uh, and then 35 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.879 we'll get to like the marketing and some of the 36 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:20.199 promotional videos. And for that we go to Aaron. 37 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.360 Okay, so first off, before we get into stuff, I 38 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:26.120 just wanted to quickly mention that I know this episode 39 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:28.240 was supposed to be released a few days after our 40 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:33.400 last one. Uh. Sorry, Hey, you want to give me 41 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:36.039 money to release these weekly, I will be more than 42 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:39.560 happy to do that. But otherwise, the four people that 43 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:42.319 listen to this, I'm very sorry that we didn't release this. 44 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.280 But if you send us upwards of eight dollars, we'll 45 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:46.319 get the shit out on time. 46 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:50.159 That's all it would take is eight dollars. That's that's 47 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.879 what four people, That's exactly it's too come. Yeah, yeah, 48 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.319 that's I'd probably even do it for five bucks. I'll 49 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:58.240 give you five bucks if you release this tomorrow last night, 50 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:03.800 if you can pull together five Also, I kind of 51 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:05.719 just thought of a pretty not good joke of how 52 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.639 we should have introduced Derek. She's here to make sure 53 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:12.479 there aren't any fowls on the field. I don't know. 54 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:16.120 She's here to make sure I'm fucking anything up because 55 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:20.599 I didn't completely read the Sally Field book, right, Yeah, 56 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:21.840 no fowls on the field. 57 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:23.319 Jesus crazy. 58 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.919 Wow, it was good. That's why you know, you got 59 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:28.840 to workshop stuff that. 60 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:31.800 Took way too long for me to even understand. 61 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:35.759 I mean that was the first attempt. Okay, So moving 62 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:37.879 on to the actual production, and just a heads up 63 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:39.400 that there wasn't a whole lot I could find about 64 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:40.879 the actual filming of the movie. 65 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:43.159 Yeah I could imagine. Yeah, this is not this is 66 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:44.400 not a well remembered movie. 67 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:45.319 Yes, exactly. 68 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:45.879 So. 69 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.400 Filming began April twenty eighth, nineteen seventy five in Birmingham, Alabama, 70 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:53.039 with Arnold stating in his book that production lasted three months, 71 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.479 but then Sally Field saying in hers that she was 72 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.520 there for seven weeks, so filming lasted anywhere between seven 73 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.560 and twelve weeks, Like maybe she left after she was done, 74 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.800 I guess, or just you know. I don't know. 75 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.080 I would say that seems really quick for a movie. 76 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:06.000 But. 77 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.159 That's almost two months, not quite two months. 78 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:14.240 I have no idea sure. 79 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:17.040 Enough for a movie like this. I feel like seven 80 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:19.920 weeks like that doesn't have a ton of specials or 81 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:20.639 anything like that. 82 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:21.279 Yeah. 83 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.160 Yeah, The only other notes I have about production were 84 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:28.240 something I have later, and then Arnold talking about how 85 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:31.160 he loved his time in Alabama and because Charles Gaines 86 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:33.560 was from there, that they were invited to a bunch 87 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:37.319 of parties. He also praised Sally Field, saying that she 88 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.920 was a kick ass like it doesn't meet paraphrase, but 89 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:42.480 she was a kick ass actress and fun to be 90 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.120 around and quote all bubbly and full of energy, and 91 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.759 that Jeff Bridges was quote very low key, a little 92 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:50.240 bit of a hippie into playing his guitar, and a 93 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:52.800 comfortable person hanging out with and very very patient. 94 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:55.319 That's that's good. 95 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.600 He also said that he was super grateful to them 96 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.439 for help him learn learn the ropes of acting and 97 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.160 that Bob Rafelson was so happy with his performance that 98 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:06.639 he eventually stopped checking his weight. 99 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:08.360 Jesus. 100 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:11.319 The one thing I want to mention real quick that 101 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:13.480 we'll cover whenever we decided to redo the Pumping Iron 102 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.240 episode is that he was like during filming, he was 103 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:20.240 visited by George Butler, who finally had the funding for 104 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:24.240 Pumping Iron. Yeah. Unfortunately this ends up being a problem 105 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.759 due to Arnold having both retired and cut weight for 106 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.240 the Stay Hungry role. But we'll get into that in 107 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:32.279 a different episode. Just wanted to mention here as well. 108 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:35.319 Oh, at this point, but he's retired. 109 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:38.600 This was seventy six, Like that's going to help me, 110 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.279 I don't. I don't know if he's he was forty, 111 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:45.000 he was forty interminator. 112 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:46.439 Forty interminator and that was eighty eighty four. 113 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:51.319 Eighty four already, yeah, eighty four, so he. 114 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:53.040 Was basically early thirties. 115 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:56.040 Okay, So before we wrap up filming, apparently one of 116 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:57.959 the last things, the last things I have was that 117 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:01.399 during a break from filming, Bob Rayfilson took Sally Field, 118 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.839 Jeff Bridges, and Arnold Schwarzenegger to see Jaws and then 119 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:07.920 afterwards told them that quote, this is the death of 120 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.319 the movie you're in right now, which has a plot. 121 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.360 I have so much fucking problem, like so many problems 122 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:22.800 with this, Like this is mentioned, yes, yes, but this 123 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:27.639 is mentioned in multiple Like Robert England, who's in the movie, 124 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.480 he's uh, just a supporting character in the movie. He 125 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.360 works at the gym, right, yeah, yep. I read a 126 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:34.839 couple of interviews with them. One of them is they're 127 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:37.720 both really good because he's been in the industry so long, 128 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:40.839 and he's like as like on you know, yeah, yeah, 129 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.439 but like he's got he's got a ton of stories. Yeah. 130 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.759 But he's talking about the seventies and being in the 131 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:51.519 movie and then like the whole seventies culture and the 132 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:53.279 like that, the way that just what we were talking 133 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.759 about earlier, like the movies which he called. Uh, He's like, 134 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.480 I consider myself very privileged to have participated, in my 135 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:01.720 own little way in that magical moment of American cinema, 136 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:03.600 the Great Golden Renaissance. And I get, like I said before, 137 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:05.480 I get why people like they refer to that because 138 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.199 they're coming out of the sixties and all that shit. 139 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:11.399 But sure, sure, I also am very plot driven. Apparently like, 140 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:16.720 I like this story. But the interviewer asks, in your mind, 141 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.560 what brought about the end of this magical moment? He says, 142 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:21.720 and it's been said by more than him, but a 143 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:24.360 combination of things. The success of Jaws created the summer 144 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:27.959 blockbuster phenomenon. Everybody wants a blockbuster, and then Dennis Hopper 145 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:30.920 made a movie that fucking bomb universe will put a 146 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.000 ton of movie into it, or not sorry, a ton 147 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:36.319 of money into But he said it hurt the credibility 148 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.920 of odd tours and there was a bunch of factors. 149 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:43.000 But it's so fucking weird. And I was talking Eric 150 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:45.519 about this the other night. In a lot of like 151 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:49.519 the Bob Rayflelson interview interviews, is them pointing out that 152 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.720 the blockbuster, mainly Jaws, that it created the summer blockbuster, 153 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:57.160 and they credit it with ruining the like the end 154 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.399 of this era. Got it, like the studio stopping these 155 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.199 movies after that summer blockbuster. Everyone wanted those. The problem 156 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:07.399 with it that I have is they're complaining about it, 157 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:10.319 but like, that movie's actually fucking good. 158 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:14.040 What jazz yesh? Yeah, Like I would. 159 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:15.360 Be okay with them complaining about it if it was 160 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.519 star Wars because Star Wars sucks, like it's fine, but 161 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:19.720 it's a fucking kids movie. 162 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:20.319 Yeah it is. 163 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:22.480 I get that complain with Star Wars, Natal Derek, I 164 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.240 get that complain with like, uh, Marvel movies. Yeah, but 165 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:28.279 that was fucking Jazz. Like, I don't know, it just 166 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:29.319 got very defensive to that. 167 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:33.039 I take issue with the idea that it somehow ended 168 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:34.000 the odd tour movement. 169 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:34.519 Yeah. 170 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:39.240 And on top of that, to blame Jaws for the 171 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:45.000 industry changing is fucking stupid because who's making the decisions 172 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:49.240 about what movies get made the studio executives. Yeah, the 173 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:51.879 reason they're chasing the blockbuster is because they want to 174 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:54.919 make more money. It was never about the art for them. 175 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.799 It's just the studio executives were always money grubbing pieces 176 00:08:58.799 --> 00:08:59.120 of shit. 177 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:01.080 Yeah, exactly. 178 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:04.000 Like to come out of Jaws and be like, well, 179 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:07.039 this movie is gonna ruin cinema. Fuck you. I hate 180 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:10.159 any time anybody says shit like that. No, fuck you. 181 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:15.879 The thing that's bringing down the system and the art 182 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:20.080 form is fucking the studio executives. It always has been, 183 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:20.919 it always will be. 184 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:25.000 Yes, And that was only mentioned that wasn't mentioned in 185 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:27.399 Arns thing and Tellyfield didnt mention that either. 186 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.559 So yeah, I mean, obviously that's what Schwarzenegger would go 187 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:32.879 on to do, is just make blockbusters, and like not 188 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.720 even blockbusters of the caliber of Jaws. 189 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:37.399 Yeah, so he said, oh you think. 190 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.080 He came out of that like, oh damn, you're right. 191 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.600 I should fucking I should ride this gravy train. 192 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.639 Okay, So anyways, kipping forward, I have one quick post 193 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.320 production note with Bob Rafelson saying in twenty nineteen in 194 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.799 an interview with Aspen Times dot Com that he did 195 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:57.200 a locals only screening in Aspen after he finished the 196 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:00.039 first edit of the film, which he also edited. I 197 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.000 didn't ask me. I think I'm pretty sure that he 198 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:05.159 lived there, but yeah, so he was. He wasn't really 199 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:09.159 able to get proper feedback after the screening due to 200 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:14.279 someone passing out Ella's d to the audience, which was 201 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:19.360 a great, you know, a little story. So yeah, so 202 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:22.279 stay Hungry received James Cameron. Yeah, that's what I was 203 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.799 thinking about. James Cameron, the same guy, the same guy. 204 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.559 He's like, I got raffleson, Like, he's like it's like 205 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:30.039 waiting for his next opportunity. It wasn't until the Titanic. 206 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:32.200 I was like, wait, what about this time if I 207 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:36.000 get the crew exactly? So yeah, So Stay Hungry received 208 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:39.240 a limited release on April twenty third, nineteen seventy six. 209 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:42.399 It was also listed as being released on April twenty 210 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:44.919 fifth in New York City and then May twelfth in 211 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:48.240 LA And I have no idea how much it made 212 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:51.440 its opening weekend because even the paper where I found 213 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.600 the box office stuff for the villain hadn't started tracking 214 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:57.840 box office numbers yet or like stats or whatever. 215 00:10:58.399 --> 00:10:58.559 Yeah. 216 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.600 Yeah, I mean I searched way too long. That's waste 217 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.600 way too much time with the research. Like part of 218 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:05.039 the reason I'll get this done is like I had 219 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.399 to stop myself from because I kept finding more articles. 220 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.759 I'm like, okay, well I gotta read this article now anyway, 221 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:12.519 So I like search way too long through newspaper archives, 222 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:15.080 which was interesting because they were like, it's cool, it's 223 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.000 like going back in time. But I didn't find anything. 224 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:19.679 It was probably like the old. Like I said before, 225 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:23.840 the only place I it's definitely is the variety archives. 226 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:25.639 But that's like six hundred bucks a year to access. 227 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:27.600 So Jesus christy, but this. 228 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:29.600 Podcast will be thriving If I got that. 229 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.720 Yeah, I'm sure that's what's holding this. Yeah, yeah, baby. 230 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.519 Anyway, so Stay Hungry, Stay Hungry grossed between fourteen point 231 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.000 six million and twenty four point eight million, which was 232 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:43.799 the twenty four was listed on Wikipedia, but it didn't 233 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:47.240 have a source. But I also found that twenty four 234 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:52.200 million number on moviefone dot com. So we're gonna go 235 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.919 with that, because if you can't trust mister moviefone, like, 236 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:55.960 who are you gonna trust? 237 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:56.919 Like, yeah, that's true. 238 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:59.600 Yeah, I probably trusted mister moviefione more than my own 239 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.039 parents when I was a kid. At least he picked 240 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:03.080 up the phone when I would call. 241 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:05.720 You know, he never lied to you about when the 242 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:06.320 movies were. 243 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:08.759 Nope, that's not the movie. That's not a theater anymore. 244 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:11.279 Oh yeah, that's not what mister movie phone taught me. 245 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:20.960 Head And then he's like hello, look on hello Champ, 246 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.039 and like recording different parts of the movies. When he's like, ye, 247 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.200 he says Champing, like is the title? I'm like, hello, 248 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:35.120 hello Champ. You are special to day. Thanks mister moone. 249 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:37.799 Anyway, sorry, I will see what. 250 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:42.919 Mister moviphone dot com. 251 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:45.519 Also list the but I bet the coonies would be 252 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:46.240 your friends. 253 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:54.320 I sho would have done that anyway. Okay, So moviefone 254 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:57.799 dot com list the budget at five million, which, if true, 255 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:00.559 means that the movie was definitely profitable, Beau because. 256 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:05.080 Like even twelve fourteen million, Yeah yeah, yeah, So. 257 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.240 Which is weird because even like it seems like a 258 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:08.799 lot of people that were involved with it kind of 259 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:12.159 implied that it wasn't. Yeah, with Arnold saying in his 260 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:15.399 book that you know, the United Artist, the production company, 261 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:17.759 the marketing team didn't know how to promote the film, 262 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:19.879 which led to poor box office sales. 263 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:21.399 Yeah. 264 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:23.399 He says that he and Sally Field went on the 265 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:25.799 Mike Douglas Show. When they were on there, they promoted 266 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.200 the bodybuilding fitness side of the movie when they should 267 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.039 have been pushing it as a Bob Rafelson film. He 268 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:32.679 also says that even at the time, he knew that 269 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:35.799 the marketing was embarrassing, but he didn't speak up because 270 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.360 he just assumed that the studios know what they're doing. So, 271 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.559 you know, yeah, which makes sense. I'm like, okay, cool, Yeah, 272 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:43.240 they know what they're doing when they see what yeah, 273 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.360 what the fuck? But yeah, He also talks about after 274 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.000 shooting the film that he couldn't get an agent that 275 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:49.679 would take him on. 276 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:49.960 Wow. 277 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:51.879 Yeah, they'd all tell him like the same stuff that 278 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:54.320 he's mentioned before in the few interviews that we've seen, 279 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.639 which is like his accent scary, his name's too long. Yeah, 280 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:00.440 body is strange. But then on top of that, I 281 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.360 guess he was, which is something here he always leaves out. 282 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:07.840 He was insistent on only taking leading roles. Oh yeah. 283 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:10.720 So the one agent that was willing to take him 284 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:14.960 on was was O. J. Simpson's agent. His name was 285 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.919 Jack Jilardi, who would get oj smaller roles in films 286 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:21.240 when he wasn't busy with football, and basically offered to 287 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.360 do the same thing for Schwarzenegger. But Arnold was like no, 288 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:27.480 fuck no, yeah, but yeah, he was finally able to 289 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:29.879 find find an agency to take him on after the 290 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:31.799 film was finally released, which was the agent. I don't 291 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:33.240 remember the name of it, but it was the same 292 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:38.360 one that represented at the time Sylvester Stallone and Angelina 293 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:41.159 Julie's dad, Oh John Void Yeah. 294 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:41.960 Yeah. 295 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.480 By the way. Timeline wise, pretty soon after this, that's 296 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.639 when he has his first meeting with Dino de laurentis 297 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.159 the one I mentioned in that we talked about in 298 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:53.320 Conan the episode where he immediately insults him and he's 299 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:56.480 like in imitating him or whatever. So that is right 300 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:59.360 around the same time. But he then eventually books that 301 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:02.279 job on the street to Saan Francisco right after this man. 302 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:05.279 That was after this, yeah, after which he ends up 303 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:07.559 deciding to stay away from any like after that role. 304 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:09.440 He ends up deciding to stay away from any villain 305 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.639 roles by the time being, saying in the book that 306 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:13.639 it would be easy to be typecast like as a 307 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.120 villain due to his He gave a few reasons. It 308 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:18.759 was his size, his looks, and the accent. 309 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:20.120 Yeah for sure. 310 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:21.960 I mean like the accent. 311 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:24.240 Well, it would just be so easy for him to 312 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.960 end up heavy in any other movie, you know, like 313 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:29.799 like a lot of the guys let like do his 314 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:32.639 stunts and stuff. Yeah, all those dudes get type cast 315 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:35.320 constantly and just do the same thing over and over again. 316 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.159 Trying to think of someone that's famous. I mean, I 317 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:40.559 know names, but it's like, is there anyway I just. 318 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:44.559 Like I grew up watching a lot of old movies, 319 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:48.399 but the bad guy was always German. 320 00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:51.200 Yeah, that's true, Like. 321 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.039 Like Heidi growing up, Heidi, the bad person is Fraulin 322 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:57.320 and Rottenmeier. Like how more obvious can you be with 323 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:57.720 that name? 324 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:06.039 Like that's pretty Sweeten, Well, she's right German people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 325 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:06.759 that's like. 326 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:10.519 An inherently uh well two Americans, that's like an inherently 327 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:11.759 villainous sounding accent. 328 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:12.679 Yeah exactly. 329 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:14.559 But yeah, so that's why he didn't want to do that. 330 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:17.279 So he was actually turning down roles. What was it 331 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:20.080 it was? Uh, he said he got offers like for 332 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:24.200 a football player. He mentioned a Nazi soldier or officer, 333 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.159 and then a few other things. I can't remember those. 334 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.120 Those the two that I remember. I think a wrestler. 335 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:31.840 So yeah, he was able to turn stuff down because 336 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:34.799 he was making bringing him four grand a year from 337 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:38.600 his mail order business that he had male order business. Yeah, 338 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:41.000 which is the first time that I mentioned mentioning. 339 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:42.799 This what like supplements or something. 340 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:44.320 You know, that's a good question. 341 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:45.759 What do you mean? 342 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:49.120 I'm pretty sure it was uh yeah, I was just 343 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:54.039 sending out I think sate lifting stuff. I know it 344 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.279 was something fitness related, but I don't remember exactly what 345 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:57.519 it was. I will find out. 346 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:02.639 Yeah, I mean maybe like pamphlets or training videos or 347 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:04.160 like bodybuilding equipment. 348 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.000 Sorry, like mail order workout? 349 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:14.799 Yeah yeah, like yeah, dumbbells. The stretchy wrote the Stretchy 350 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:19.880 Things resistant Yeah, now. 351 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:21.400 Is it resistance once? 352 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:21.759 Where you go? 353 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:26.079 How work out? 354 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:33.559 Geez judgy? Okay. Arnold was also nominated for a Golden 355 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:34.759 Globe for Stay Hungry. 356 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:37.440 Really, I mean that's not bad. Yeah, I don't know, 357 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:38.640 considering how like. 358 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:40.359 That seems shocking. 359 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:43.839 He's in the movie less than I expect for somebody 360 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:46.119 won an award I guess, is what I'm saying. 361 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.920 Well, okay, so it was. It was for the Best 362 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:51.519 Debut by a Male Actor category, which I guess is 363 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:55.519 no longer. Uh, it's no longer a category. Yeah, it 364 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:57.839 got I think it was like nineteen eighty two is 365 00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:58.279 last year. 366 00:17:58.319 --> 00:17:59.440 Okay, well that makes more sense. 367 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:01.839 And that was in Kingsley, so that that you know, 368 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:05.920 he's he's in good company. Ben Kingsley won it for Gandhi. 369 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:08.960 I'm pretty sure I think that was Gandhi. And then 370 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:18.839 Arld Swartz nigger, you know, he's yea Indian or something. 371 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:22.319 I'm pretty sure I think he like changed his name too. 372 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:25.240 Well, now I don't have to be mad at him 373 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:26.920 for the love he was. 374 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.039 He was born in Krishna Bonie. 375 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:35.359 I don't know his father Yorkshire, England. 376 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:38.680 Yeah, Scarborough. But he was born, Oh, he was born 377 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:46.920 sorry that's his name. Was born, not was born. He 378 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:52.319 was born Chris Krishna Bond Banjie. But he is he 379 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.119 is he is it? Okay? 380 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.000 Yeah, his son is a Kenyan born medical doctor. 381 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.000 Anyway, Golden Globe, which I guess, yeah, like that it's 382 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.519 not a category anymore in nineteen eight two. But yeah, 383 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:09.119 he was up against some interesting competition. Two of them 384 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:13.720 I have never heard of and I have sorry, okay, 385 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:15.079 so yeah, two have never heard of it, and the 386 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:16.880 two that I haven't heard of it I even I 387 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:18.720 haven't even heard of the films that are in So 388 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:20.640 the first two, which the ones that I haven't heard of, 389 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:24.880 were Lenny Baker for Next Stop Greenwich Village and then 390 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:28.559 Jonathan Kahn, who was nominated for The Sailor Who Fell 391 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:31.000 from Grace with the Sea, which is a long ass 392 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:31.920 title for a movie. 393 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:34.920 Oh I thought Jonathan Kahn fell from Grace with the Sea. 394 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:39.359 No, yeah, Jonathan conn was the actor I see, yeah, 395 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:44.440 starring in The Sailor Who fell Grace with the Sea 396 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:47.640 and then the other two. I have heard of Truman Capoti. 397 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:49.079 I didn't even know he acted. 398 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:50.000 I don't. 399 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:51.480 I don't know anything about him. 400 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:52.440 I thought he was a writer. 401 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.039