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<v Speaker 1>Anyone Juice Everything Podcast. Hello and welcome the All Eighties

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<v Speaker 1>Movies Podcast, the podcast where we talk about the blockbusters,

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<v Speaker 1>the flops, and everything in between from one of the

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<v Speaker 1>precious decades from movies, the nineteen eighties. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 1>Phil bet Long Beyond this journey revisiting eighties movies is

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<v Speaker 1>my co host Jason Massek. Hello, Jason, Remember missus farmer.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever you buy a house, whatever's in the ground belongs

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<v Speaker 1>to you, whether it's gold or oil or Claude Muscleman.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, listeners, we are discussing with spoilers of plenty,

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighty eight Fish out of Water comedy Funny Farm.

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<v Speaker 1>It was produced by Film Futures and distributed by Entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>Film Distributors. Movie stars Chevy Chase and Madeline Smith. Directed

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<v Speaker 1>by George roy Hill, This movie's right at PG with

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<v Speaker 1>a running time of one hour and forty one minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie was adapted from the nineteen eighty five comedic

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<v Speaker 1>novel of the same name by Jay Cronley. So what

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<v Speaker 1>is this movie about? What's on the box if you

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<v Speaker 1>grow up in the nineteen eighties, and what's your local

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<v Speaker 1>video store to rend this movie. You would fine this

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<v Speaker 1>description on the back of the VHS box. It is

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<v Speaker 1>what's on the box. Take it away, Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>When chevy Chase plays a Manhattan sportswriter who abandons his

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<v Speaker 2>career for life in the country, you know that getting

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<v Speaker 2>away from it all will inevitably mean Chevy's getting in deeper,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the serenity of smalltown USA will hilariously turn

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<v Speaker 2>into a city slickers nightmare. Funning Farm delivers the gut

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<v Speaker 2>busting fund you expect from chevy Chase. National Lampoon's Vacation,

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<v Speaker 2>National Lampoon's European Fagation. Fletch Spies Like Us and The

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<v Speaker 2>Three Amigos tops It's performances in all those films with

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<v Speaker 2>his pratt falling portrayal of urban transplant Andy Farmer. Madeline

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<v Speaker 2>Smith co stars as Andy's supportive wife. Together, the Funny

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<v Speaker 2>Farmers learned that the eccentric people and events of their

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<v Speaker 2>new hometown outnumber even the mosquitoes. The postman guns along

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<v Speaker 2>the back roads like mad Max. The sheriff travels nowhere

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<v Speaker 2>without a chauffeur. Gruesome discoveries turn up in the garden

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<v Speaker 2>and pond, and Andy becomes the punchline of the movie's

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<v Speaker 2>rowdiest gag when he unsuspectingly brags call me mister lamb

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<v Speaker 2>Fryes call Funny Farm. Endlessly entertaining, filled with comic delights.

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<v Speaker 2>It also features the buoyant direction of George roy Hill,

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<v Speaker 2>a vibrant Elmer Bernstein score, and the lush cinematography of

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<v Speaker 2>Miroslav Underchek. Harvest the good times from Funny Farm.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny Farm, So that was what's on the box. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on to her eighty snapshot as we highlight some

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<v Speaker 1>of the creative forces from this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason. For my eighties snapshot, I chose Jeffrey Boom, the

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<v Speaker 2>screenwriter of Funny Farm. Jeffrey Bohm, writer and producer from Rochester,

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<v Speaker 2>New York. Here's a little trivia actually from IMDb about

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Boem. Before becoming a successful screenwriter, he actually worked

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<v Speaker 2>as a studio executive for many years. I never knew

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<v Speaker 2>that Boem's films that he wrote screenplays for have a

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<v Speaker 2>cumulative gross of over one billion dollars. That's right, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>one billion dollars. Here's his eighty snapshot as a writer.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the highlights the dead Zone in eighty three.

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<v Speaker 2>He's uncredited on Lethal Weapon in nineteen eighty seven. He

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<v Speaker 2>pens Innerspace in eighty seven, The Lost Boys in eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>Funny Farm Here in eighty eight, Indiana Jones, and The

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<v Speaker 2>Last Crusade in eighty nine, and then Lethal Weapon two

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<v Speaker 2>in eighty nine. Not a bad eighties run. He would

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<v Speaker 2>go on to write Leith Wepon three in ninety two,

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<v Speaker 2>and then The Witches of Eastwick in ninety two. He

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<v Speaker 2>does twenty seven episodes of the Adventures of Briscoe County Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought was really cool. He penned The Phantom

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety six, so those are some of the

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<v Speaker 2>highlights there. He did pass away on January twenty sixth

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<v Speaker 2>and two thousand due to a heart failure from a

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<v Speaker 2>rare lung disease. So here's a little quote from Jeffrey Boem.

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<v Speaker 2>I get the thing in my head and see it

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<v Speaker 2>from start to finish. Then I sit down and start

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<v Speaker 2>writing it. I don't have any kind of routine where

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<v Speaker 2>try and live with it in my head until it's

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<v Speaker 2>ready to be spat out. Jeffrey Boem great screenwriter. He

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<v Speaker 2>pops up every once in a while and these huge

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<v Speaker 2>eighties films and I'm like, man, this guy had quite

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<v Speaker 2>the career and we lost him too soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I mean, you just

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<v Speaker 1>listed off an impressive list of credits. As a writer,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every time I hear his name, I think of

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<v Speaker 2>the opening credits of Last Crusade. For some reason, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can see it with that backdrop of where do

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<v Speaker 2>they shoot that opening, like in Utah or wherever that was?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Font they use for the credits in Indiana Jones Alascrusda,

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<v Speaker 2>it just kind of pops. I'm like, oh, Jeffrey boem Right,

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote this too, good stuff. What do you have

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<v Speaker 2>for your idies? Snapshot Bill bant So.

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<v Speaker 1>I went with director George Roy Hill, and George wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>your typical Hollywood director. Born in nineteen twenty one to

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<v Speaker 1>a wealthy Irish Catholic family in Minneapolis, Hill grew up

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<v Speaker 1>loving music, airplanes, and stories, the three passions that would

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<v Speaker 1>later define his life. He studied music at Yale under

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<v Speaker 1>the great composer Paul Hindermith ran the university's drama society,

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<v Speaker 1>and then went off to war. Hill served as a

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<v Speaker 1>marine pilot in both World War Two and the Korean War,

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<v Speaker 1>an experience that fueled his lifelong obsession with flying. After

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<v Speaker 1>the war, he acted on stage in Ireland and on Broadway,

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<v Speaker 1>and then turned to directing, first in live television and theater,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually in film. His first movie, Period of Adjustment, came

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<v Speaker 1>out in nineteen sixty two, but it was Butch Cassidy

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<v Speaker 1>and The Sundance Kid that made him a household name.

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<v Speaker 1>Hill was the one who assisted on p arring Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Newman and then up and coming Robert Redford, a decision

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<v Speaker 1>that changed both their careers and movie history. He reunited

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<v Speaker 1>with the duo for The Sting, a clever con artist

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<v Speaker 1>caper that won seven Oscars, including Best Director for Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Hill goes on to direct the hockey comedy classic Slap Shot,

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<v Speaker 1>again with Newman in nineteen seventy seven. By the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>George Roy Hill's film career was winding down. His major

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<v Speaker 1>work from that decade was the World According to Garp

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty two, based on John Irving's novel, starring

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Williams and gun Clothes. The film was both a

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<v Speaker 1>John Lithgow. H'll followed it with The Little Drummer Girl

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty four, darring Diane Keaton. Though ambitious, it

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<v Speaker 1>received mixed reviews and struggled at the box office, and

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<v Speaker 1>then his final film was This Funny Farm in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight. After stepping away from Hollywood, He'll return to

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<v Speaker 1>Yale to teach drama, sharing his love of storytelling with

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<v Speaker 1>a new generation. He passed away in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>two at the age of eighty one, after a long

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<v Speaker 1>battle with Parkinson's I was director George roy Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Great stuff. That was excellent nineteen twenty one. Man, that

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<v Speaker 2>guy goes way back, Yeah he does. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>realize he also directed a slap shot that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. One of the actors that was driving up

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<v Speaker 1>the wall when I was watching this brat Sullivan was Brock,

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<v Speaker 1>the one who wants to kill Andy throughout the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, what do I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know him from? And then I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a slap shot and that's one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>lines of the movie. Here you go. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's appropriate to repeat on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this leads to earliest memories of the movie. Jason

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<v Speaker 1>start us off. What do you remember about Funny Farm

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, let's get funny with this film. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I remember always liking this movie. If I

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<v Speaker 2>caught it on cable. It was one of those Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if I caught it in the middle of it, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>watch it. I'd watch the rest of it, at least

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<v Speaker 2>a few scenes. It was always enjoyable to me as

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<v Speaker 2>a young person. I've always been a fan of Chevy

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<v Speaker 2>Chase and the livery and his physical comedy. There's the

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<v Speaker 2>pratt falling that was mentioned in the What's on the

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<v Speaker 2>Box segment, and that's was his talent. I recall being

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<v Speaker 2>a fan of miss Madeline Smith in this. I always

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<v Speaker 2>thought she was very attractive, She is quite adorable. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought she gave a decent comedic performance. I remember a

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<v Speaker 2>few of the highlights, of course, I mean before even

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<v Speaker 2>watching this. I recall the lamb fries, of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>crazed alcoholic Maleman, and I remember enjoying the holiday Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>cheer of the ending. It just always gave me a warm,

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<v Speaker 2>fuzzy feeling inside. I definitely remember the very scenic atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 2>that rural feel, and that's pretty much it in a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a fan of this movie when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, a teenager. I didn't think it was the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest thing ever, but it was just simple feel good

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<v Speaker 2>movie and I got a kick out of the goofy

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<v Speaker 2>characters and site gags. Nothing else really to break down here,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Band. I didn't think it was outrageously hilarious, but

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<v Speaker 2>always found it amusing. That's all I got for you

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<v Speaker 2>for early memories. What are yours?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was a rental for me. I do remember

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the ads in the paper of Chevy Chase with

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<v Speaker 1>the egg on his head, thinking it was a movie

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<v Speaker 1>about farming, and then renting it and it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>about farming whatsoever. But I do remember enjoying it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I watched that one a lot on cable. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>I watched Funny Farm more at one point than I

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<v Speaker 1>watched Fletch right, just because it was on more. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm saying it's a better movie. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a comfort food kind of film.

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<v Speaker 2>I just it was on. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just kind of flows. That's my earliest memory. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>right there with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things that just happened to be

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<v Speaker 2>on a lot, and you smile when chevy Chase does

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<v Speaker 2>his thing. He's great, He's very charming, and he's good

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<v Speaker 2>at falling down. Let's just put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, all right, So initial thoughts now of a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, an interesting rewatch as an adult, let's just talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that cast real quick. I think chevy Chase is

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<v Speaker 2>fine in this. Is he given a lot to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this is how I use the word serviceable.

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<v Speaker 2>And I felt like Madeline Smith as Elizabeth Farmer, the

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<v Speaker 2>wife of Andy Farmer played by Chevy Chase. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>Madeline Smith was fine. I'm watching it now just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the relationship between her and chevy Chase? Is a

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<v Speaker 2>good chemistry, etc. And they were good together. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>they matched well together. It was fine. I wasn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>laughing out loud at moments, but I found myself smiling often.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just several moments throughout this film where I found

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<v Speaker 2>it amusing once again as an adult. I must say

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<v Speaker 2>the movie looks good to me. Credit to veteran DP

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<v Speaker 2>director of photography Miroslav Underchek Elmer Bernstein. Love him he

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<v Speaker 2>does the score for this film. Love his past work,

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful Resume, The Magnificent Seven, The Great Escape, Animal House, Meatballs,

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<v Speaker 2>Airplane Stripes, Trading Places, Ghostbusters, that's Elmer Bernstein. Now we

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<v Speaker 2>have Funny Farm. It's fine. It's fine. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>my overall feeling about this film this far.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have any commentary on you You're saying fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my word for this is safe. This movie

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Bant is one of the last notes I wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was saving it for my conclusion. I wrote safe,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels safe. I wrote that exact same thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was trying to think about how I would

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. I would recommend it. But if I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>why the hell did you recommend this movie? It's just there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just there. I'm not sitting through it. Going, oh

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<v Speaker 1>I like the premise. I mean, there's a one scene

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<v Speaker 1>of that, there's nothing groundbreaking about it. It is funny

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<v Speaker 1>when I was researching, how many people like chasing.

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<v Speaker 2>This, Yeah, including himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wish a little more could have been on

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<v Speaker 1>the humor. The fish out of Water could have been

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<v Speaker 1>have all the quirky characters, but we never really get

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<v Speaker 1>to see the quirky characters. We just kind of see

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<v Speaker 1>how Andy and Elizabeth aren't adjusting well to life outside

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<v Speaker 1>the city. Right. Maybe if it got a little more

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<v Speaker 1>into that, had more of those standout characters, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a more fun film. So it just

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<v Speaker 2>Agree, wholeheartedly agree that's safe, and it's on the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>was hoping to get a little more I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if gritty's the right word, but more based on the

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<v Speaker 2>in the actual direction, of course, and it was on

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<v Speaker 2>the life. That's the way he went with it, and

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<v Speaker 2>experience this time because I was joined by a friend

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<v Speaker 2>for the very first time. So I was watching it

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<v Speaker 2>wondering in the back of my mind how she was

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it. And of course, as we all know, watching

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<v Speaker 2>than just watching it by yourself. So what it did,

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<v Speaker 2>interestingly enough, was make me look at it without my

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<v Speaker 2>nostalgic glasses on. It wasn't as if I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>this with like a contemporary like you in the room,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Bant, or a buddy of mine that grew up

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<v Speaker 2>during the eighties and we could predict that next scene

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<v Speaker 2>coming on or already start laughing about what was coming

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<v Speaker 2>up next, or smile in that nostalgic moment. It was different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just different. So I felt I was a little

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<v Speaker 2>more critical upon this viewing as an adult. So Funny

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<v Speaker 2>Farm It's one of those movies just feels like a

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<v Speaker 2>series of hijinks for the first hour or so. There's

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<v Speaker 2>just not much in the way of story or character development.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you were talking about these townsfolk that just fill

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<v Speaker 2>they all are just kind of the one note, one stick,

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<v Speaker 2>one trick ponies. It's mostly like National Lampoon's vacation. Especially

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<v Speaker 2>regarding Chevy Chase's character, Andy Farmer, He's like Clark Griswold

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<v Speaker 2>on a farm, I guess, but it's or in the

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<v Speaker 2>while everything is falling apart. However, the difference here's the wife,

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Farmer. She clearly isn't happy and he's oblivious to

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<v Speaker 2>it the whole time. And then there's this series of

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<v Speaker 2>light gags, silly gags, the one note characters, these one

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<v Speaker 2>note character we really don't learn anything about these characters,

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<v Speaker 2>like Sheriff Ledbetter, or that Brock character, or the crazed

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<v Speaker 2>mailman who we learn as crumb Peatrie, the antique dealer

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<v Speaker 2>that sells everything related to dead relatives. It's funny on

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<v Speaker 2>the surface, but we don't get to know them at

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<v Speaker 2>all or see a relationship developed between those characters. With

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<v Speaker 2>Andy and Elizabeth Farmer, there's just no bond between them, really,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's just more hyjinks of things going bad while

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<v Speaker 2>now Andy Farmer. The whole idea here, folks, if you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen the movie for any reason, is that Andy

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<v Speaker 2>is moving on from the big city as a sports

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<v Speaker 2>writer and he's been given correct me if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been given in advance by a publisher to write

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<v Speaker 2>his great, the great novel he has within him. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>has he given like a ten thousand dollars advance?

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<v Speaker 1>Ten thousand?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? So the idea is that he and his wife

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth have looked at this beautiful property out in the

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<v Speaker 2>to write this novel and live out their lives in

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<v Speaker 2>this serene location. So then throughout these hijinks, Andy has

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<v Speaker 2>writer's block. Then he manages to write a terrible first

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<v Speaker 2>draft of his novel. Meanwhile, Elizabeth has inspired to write

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<v Speaker 2>her own children's book, which becomes successful, and then Andy

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<v Speaker 2>country house. And then they recruit, slash bribe the townspeople

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<v Speaker 2>to help them sell the house. So the townspeople selfishly

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<v Speaker 2>go overboard with the Christmas holiday costumes, caroling and themes.

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<v Speaker 2>And after the farmer see what the fantasy of this town,

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<v Speaker 2>which is called Redbud out in the country could be,

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<v Speaker 2>they decide to make up and not get divorced, and

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<v Speaker 2>they decide to stay after all this, the problem is

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<v Speaker 2>that they're still hated by the townspeople and all of

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<v Speaker 2>it is a facade. And more importantly, Andy was a

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<v Speaker 2>complete asshole to Elizabeth and she somehow just forgave him overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting into my complaints clearly here, but that's like

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<v Speaker 2>the gist of this movie as I'm watching it as

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<v Speaker 2>an adult, Like this is how I'm seeing it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to sound overly critical, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>a little surprised of like, this movie is really flawed.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything else I said still holds true, where it's still

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<v Speaker 2>fun and light on its feet at times, but from

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<v Speaker 2>a story structure standpoint, I found it extremely flawed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I did not understand the character's motivations at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>and I found there was just real no connection to

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<v Speaker 2>the town or townsfolk at all, which was concerning to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. One thing I wanted to see a little

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<v Speaker 2>more of, too, was really Andy's process, Like, because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a writer goes through. And we just kind of see

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<v Speaker 2>him frustrated with having the writer's block, and we see

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<v Speaker 2>that Elizabeth goes behind his back to write her children's book.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not getting into the process of a writer, in

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<v Speaker 2>the head of a writer and what the a writer

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<v Speaker 2>goes through and trying to develop a novel. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>again just kind of safe and on the surface and

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<v Speaker 2>goofy stuff happens, and that's it, and then it's over

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to save more for favorite scenes and complaints.

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<v Speaker 2>But watching it as an adult, it's all right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all right. I don't know if I need to see

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<v Speaker 2>it again for a while. I feel like it was

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<v Speaker 2>a different experience this time watching it, and if it's

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<v Speaker 2>not terrible, it's just Okay, that's all I got, Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I took. My big complaint about is there's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a disconnect between the farmers and the residents I red bud. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because when they decide to sell the house and then

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<v Speaker 1>they present to the townsfolk, Hey, we need you to

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<v Speaker 1>stop acting like idiots so we can sell our house.

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<v Speaker 1>How did we get to this point from what I understand?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's only had trouble with two of the townsfolk, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like they're walking through the town they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>jeered and made fun of. Nothing really that bad has

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<v Speaker 1>happened to them up to this point. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>disconnect that I didn't see him, Like, what am I

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<v Speaker 1>missing that they've gotten to this point? All the characters

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<v Speaker 1>are just one off jokes. The sheriff the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he cannot drive, right, I find that funny definitely. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring something else. We meet the brothers Lahn and Dirk,

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<v Speaker 1>who are supposed to be your goofballs. I think of

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<v Speaker 1>a new Heart with Larry, Daryl and Darryl. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's beat into that a little bit more. Nope, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't really do anything. Yep, crumb, Yeah, you get a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit out of him, and then Brock, who he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing the fishing with, and Brock just always wants

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<v Speaker 1>to kill him. Well, the other two guys on the

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<v Speaker 1>boat weren't any better than what Andy was doing, so

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<v Speaker 1>why is the hate all towards him?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish they got into more of what the

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<v Speaker 1>Play that up for laughs and develop the characters a

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<v Speaker 1>little more. I do like Chase is in Smith's chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there's some other complaints about their relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get into the complaint department, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I just had to go back to it. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>safe movie if you watch it. I think there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>groundbreaking about it. Kind of weird that Chase is the

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<v Speaker 1>star of the movie but doesn't feel like he's the

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<v Speaker 1>star of the movie. I would almost feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>I like that take.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she's the one that's going through changes throughout the movie. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you learn more about her than you do

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I you know again, you said, you know, fish

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<v Speaker 2>out of water. It's clearly a Fish out of Water story,

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<v Speaker 2>and even within the movie, you have Madeline Smith writing

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<v Speaker 2>the form of a squirrel being a fish out of water.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going from the city to the country life. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a change of pace, scenery, and again the town, the

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<v Speaker 2>type of people. So you mentioned like northern exposure, but

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<v Speaker 2>these are the farmers become strangers in a strange land,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to see how that affects their relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is a hint in the beginning when they

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<v Speaker 2>first move there that Chevy is urging his wife to

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<v Speaker 2>give this a chance, because he says, not only are

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<v Speaker 2>we here to enjoy the scenery, but we're here to

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<v Speaker 2>be together to work on a relationship. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>with their relationship prior to this or something missing or Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So now move to the country supposedly is going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of that. It's just more he's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to write, she's frustrated, he's oblivious to it. Then she

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<v Speaker 2>writes the book, and then he becomes jealous and turns

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<v Speaker 2>to alcohol, and then she wants a divorce, And You're right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting looking at it now, thinking it's more of

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<v Speaker 2>hers journey that we're following. But then it just turns

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden in the last twenty minutes where

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<v Speaker 2>everything becomes honky dory, and I'm like, I missed something

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<v Speaker 2>in the just relationship development between the farmers and the

415
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<v Speaker 2>relationship between the farmers and the townsfolk. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think going into this move that they had

417
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<v Speaker 1>an issue with their relationship. I think just because it's

418
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<v Speaker 1>fast paced. He's a sports writer. I'm sure he's not

419
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<v Speaker 1>around a lot. They go somewhere else where it's slows down,

420
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<v Speaker 1>so they can actually have a family family right, thinking

421
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<v Speaker 1>about having kids move in that direction, So I thought

422
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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the reasons for the move. Also,

423
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<v Speaker 1>outside of in the events for the book, I didn't

424
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<v Speaker 1>think they really had issues until they moved and Elizabeth

425
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<v Speaker 1>realized this is not really the life that she wants initially,

426
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<v Speaker 1>but that does change by the.

427
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<v Speaker 2>End, right, Yeah, because simply nothing's working. There's no phone

428
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<v Speaker 2>in the house, there's a giant sea snake, and there's

429
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<v Speaker 2>water snake in the bond, there's a dead body, there's

430
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<v Speaker 2>bones buried in the garden. I mean, it's just one

431
00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.279
<v Speaker 2>thing after another seems to go wrong, and she's increasingly

432
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<v Speaker 2>becoming distraught about it, which is understandable. Yeah, I just

433
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<v Speaker 2>would have liked to seen more a little more sensitivity

434
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<v Speaker 2>from his character to her in recognizing that. It just

435
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<v Speaker 2>feels like he's very much kind of self centered or

436
00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.039
<v Speaker 2>self serving and working on his book, Like he's just like,

437
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<v Speaker 2>I'm here to do this and it's going to be

438
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<v Speaker 2>this is my dream and nothing's going to get in

439
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:55.279
<v Speaker 2>the way of it, while she's struggling the entire time.

440
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<v Speaker 1>So it's basically Chevy Chase playing himself off screen.

441
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, all right, So I just I think I

442
00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.200
<v Speaker 2>just laid out all my complaints already, so I jumped

443
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<v Speaker 2>away ahead anyway. Yeah, we can move on, all right,

444
00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:07.799
<v Speaker 2>let's move on.

445
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<v Speaker 1>Two favorite scenes or moments. Think I'm going first on

446
00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>this one, and it's just a laugh out moment for me.

447
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:16.440
<v Speaker 1>And then there was like a little follow up joke.

448
00:23:16.599 --> 00:23:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So Andy and Elizabeth get to the house. They're all excited.

449
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<v Speaker 1>They're running around and looking at it, and there's a pond,

450
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and there's ducks, and you might have a few mosquitoes.

451
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<v Speaker 1>But they're about to go into the front door, and

452
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<v Speaker 1>he decides that he's going to pick up Elizabeth and

453
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<v Speaker 1>carry her through the threshold, and he opens the door,

454
00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:38.079
<v Speaker 1>not knowing that the door is split top half bottom half,

455
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<v Speaker 1>so it only opens the top half, and drops Elizabeth.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Through the door, which hurts.

457
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<v Speaker 1>It's funny at the same time, but I'm like, oh God,

458
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<v Speaker 1>that must have hurt. So he opens the door, you know,

459
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<v Speaker 1>make sure that she's okay, and then she says she's

460
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, and then they're talking about the house, and

461
00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.640
<v Speaker 1>then she has this throw away line about I wonder

462
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<v Speaker 1>how long it takes an ambulance to get here, meaning

463
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<v Speaker 1>that she's still hurt from the fall. I don't think

464
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<v Speaker 1>I ever caught that before, because I think the action

465
00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:07.799
<v Speaker 1>of her him dropping her through just feels natural and

466
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like I could see that actually happening. How do they

467
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.279
<v Speaker 1>know the door is not locked to be connected, so

468
00:24:13.319 --> 00:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>it all opens a one piece. And then of course

469
00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:19.519
<v Speaker 1>saying that you're okay, okay, But really, when everyone walks

470
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:21.759
<v Speaker 1>away and you're still like, oh Jesus Christ, that really hurt,

471
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:25.599
<v Speaker 1>might crack my tailbone kind of thing. So it's really brief,

472
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>but I found it funny because it felt natural. It

473
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 1>felt real to me. It wasn't like a stage little

474
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<v Speaker 1>bit which happens throughout the movie.

475
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<v Speaker 2>I laugh out loud every time it happens, and it

476
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:40.960
<v Speaker 2>caught me off guard a little bit on the rewatch,

477
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:43.559
<v Speaker 2>even though just at the very last millisecond I knew

478
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:45.680
<v Speaker 2>it was coming because it just made laugh so much.

479
00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.279
<v Speaker 2>As a kid too, I definitely remember that moment, but

480
00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:50.839
<v Speaker 2>it just happened so quickly in the film. It's it's

481
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>smartly edited. I feel too. You just you forget that

482
00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, here got and then he just walks

483
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.559
<v Speaker 2>her and drops her, and it's pretty brutal. It's a

484
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:04.200
<v Speaker 2>great physical bit. And with the clever line from her afterward,

485
00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>and she has some actual good lines in this, it

486
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>made me think of a line it happens right after

487
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<v Speaker 2>that when they have to spend the evening in the

488
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<v Speaker 2>house without any of their belongings because the moving truck

489
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:19.319
<v Speaker 2>got lost and they're sleeping on the floor, and she

490
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<v Speaker 2>says something to the effect of, oh, I know why

491
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>they call them hardwood floors, because they're hard wood floors,

492
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>so there's some good stuff. She has some good stuff,

493
00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.119
<v Speaker 2>but that particular moment dropping her over the doors, it's priceless.

494
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, What do we have next? I think

495
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<v Speaker 1>we both are in agreement with this next scene.

496
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<v Speaker 2>A thousand percent probably the most memorable scene for a

497
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<v Speaker 2>lot of those of you that have seen this film.

498
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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of a go to probably remember this.

499
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:50.880
<v Speaker 2>It's the lamb fries, that's right. It just so happens

500
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:54.839
<v Speaker 2>that it is the Farmer's anniversary and they're going to

501
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:56.799
<v Speaker 2>go out on the town for a little bit. So

502
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<v Speaker 2>they decide to go to the local diner restaurant and

503
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.799
<v Speaker 2>just cuts to the waitress who's also the cook. As

504
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:06.359
<v Speaker 2>it turns out, she's just frying up some land fries

505
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that look like meatballs basically in a pan, and she's

506
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:13.279
<v Speaker 2>serving them up to Andy Farmer, and they're sitting right

507
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:17.480
<v Speaker 2>at the actual counter, and they're all dressed to the nines,

508
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:20.160
<v Speaker 2>looking good, but they're enjoying some of the good local

509
00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:23.359
<v Speaker 2>fair and the grub and these lamb fries that look

510
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>like meatballs. Well, Andy Farmer's just chowing down on these things.

511
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<v Speaker 2>And there's some locals also at the counter, and they're like, wow,

512
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:33.839
<v Speaker 2>he's going to town on these things, and just well,

513
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 2>in particular, Elizabeth like, that's your third plate. Pretty impressive,

514
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 2>and of course she says, yeah, that's your third plate,

515
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, well, calling mister lamb Fries. And then

516
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:46.519
<v Speaker 2>you have the local that's sitting to the right of Andy,

517
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I believe, who says, now, that's a man who knows

518
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>when he's got something good in his mouth. And then

519
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>we quickly discover that he's actually this is Andy about

520
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:02.359
<v Speaker 2>to break the record for eating the most lamb fries,

521
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>these little meatballs. And there's an actual chalkboard hanging up

522
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 2>behind the waitress and she's got a piece of chalk

523
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 2>and she's changing the tally. She's telling up how many

524
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:16.039
<v Speaker 2>he's eaten. The record I believe is twenty eight, and

525
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>he's at like twenty six, twenty seven. Then all of

526
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:21.880
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, he's, of course, chevy Chase is all proud

527
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.079
<v Speaker 2>of himself as he downs number twenty nine, breaking the record,

528
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>and she has to change the number on the chalkboard

529
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and he's like wait, wait, wait, like he's got more

530
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 2>in him. And then he eats number thirty and I

531
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 2>believe he goes to eat thirty one, and you just

532
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 2>hear the line most folks don't seem to have a

533
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:43.720
<v Speaker 2>taste for testicles no more. You hear Elizabeth goes testicles,

534
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 2>and then you hear the again. The locals say, yes,

535
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.920
<v Speaker 2>ma'am sheep balls. Tell them why yours are so tasty?

536
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>As he's talking to the waitress, and the waitress responds,

537
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the trick is you gotta clip them off way up high,

538
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 2>and she makes this gesture with like ess like doing

539
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 2>the fingers like sit and then of course Andy spits

540
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the lambfry slash sheep ball right out of his mouth

541
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and makes for the exit as Elizabeth follows him out

542
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.039
<v Speaker 2>of the diner. It's actually a quick scene. It's memorable.

543
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>You almost kind of see it coming. It's set up

544
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>in a certain way, but it's still funny because of

545
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 2>the performances by both the waitress and the local that's

546
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 2>sitting next to Chevy Chase. And I also like the

547
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 2>fact that it's subtle. But you see the waitress then

548
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 2>erase the thirty one and she puts it back to

549
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>thirty because he spit out the last lambfry, and I,

550
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, I don't know if this is like

551
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the Mandela effect, but I thought he was going to

552
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>actually throw up in that she erased the entire board

553
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 2>and it went back to twenty eight, the prior record.

554
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 2>But he don't actually see him throw up. So I

555
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>was going to save this for additional questions. But do

556
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>you think he actually throws up or should he retain

557
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the record at thirty?

558
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I think he should retain the record, Yeah, I say so.

559
00:28:58.680 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I think so.

560
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, if you missed the thirty

561
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 1>one to thirty, I was gonna point that out. But

562
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>here again, here they are at the diner, the waitresses

563
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>being nice, the towns focus being nice. When he breaks

564
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a record, everyone in the restaurant is clapping. So why

565
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 1>later down the road does there seem to be a

566
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>disconnect between them and the townsfolk. It's not showcased in

567
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>this scene. It would make more sense if the record

568
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>was sacred in the fact that Andy broke it, that

569
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>people are pissed, and then well you're eating land testicles.

570
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's a funny, memorable scene.

571
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I have nothing that you make a really good point

572
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>that they all are getting along, because I'm starting to

573
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.079
<v Speaker 2>think of the other scenes where there was real, like

574
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.240
<v Speaker 2>an antagonistic nature between them and the townsfolk. Elizabeth doesn't

575
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 2>really have any negative run ins with anyone that go awry.

576
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:50.759
<v Speaker 2>It's just Chevy Chase and that boat scene with Brock

577
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 2>and the other guy that goes and they're fishing and

578
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>it goes all to hell. And then we have the

579
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 2>crazed mailman, but we don't even know the man, like

580
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Andy doesn't have a relationship to the man man except

581
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>that he just keeps blowing by the mailbox, throwing the

582
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>mail out the window. We don't even see his face.

583
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:08.119
<v Speaker 2>We don't know why, if or why the mailman would

584
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 2>hate Andy. We know why Andy doesn't like him. But

585
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.440
<v Speaker 2>as for the other townsfolk, they seem to all be

586
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>getting along. It doesn't so why do they feel they

587
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>all hate them? At the end, I don't know anyway,

588
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 2>going off on a tangent.

589
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 1>That's okay. So for my next well, it's a big

590
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 1>scene because it's almost a third act of the movie,

591
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>but I do like the premise of it. Unfortunately, it's

592
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 1>gotten to the point where Andy and Elizabeth are talking

593
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>about getting a divorce so they have to sell the house,

594
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 1>and in their mind order to sell the house. The

595
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>townsfolk need to help because they think the townsfolk are

596
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>part of the problem of why they're getting divorced. So

597
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>they speak at the local town hall meeting and they

598
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 1>want the town to mimic basically Norman Rockwell paintings. So

599
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.799
<v Speaker 1>when prospective buyers come to look at the house, still

600
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.759
<v Speaker 1>think this is the most beautiful place in the world

601
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to be is in Rosebud.

602
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I like that, you said, Rosebud. That's great, little slip there,

603
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:09.599
<v Speaker 2>little citizen Kane slip Rosemud. So yeah, so Redbud.

604
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 1>And we do have a couple that's coming to look

605
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 1>at the house, and it just happens to be during

606
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 1>the holidays, and the townfolk go all out, Yeah, Christmas,

607
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Carol's in the backyard. They take this couple downtown. They

608
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.039
<v Speaker 1>have this huge tree. Everybody, of course, is coming up

609
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and being super nice. The police chief, who can't drive

610
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, pulls up in a car and

611
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>comes out and says, hell, he makes sure he sees

612
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the farmer house twice a day and checks the neighborhood

613
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>whilst car drives off and runs over a tree. What's

614
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>funny about this because when they have the town hall meeting.

615
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 1>The farmers do say, hey, if we sell the house,

616
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:52.799
<v Speaker 1>we're going to donate x amount of money to Redbud,

617
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and if anyone does a active kindness in front of us,

618
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll give them fifty bucks. So the townsfolk are all

619
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>going out, so just a factor walk across town. Everyone's

620
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 1>coming up, Hey, Andy, hey, lisbit that kind of stuff.

621
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>And then they give their names so they know they

622
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>owe fifty bucks. And it gets to the point where

623
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 1>they go back to the house, their house, and basically

624
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the whole town is outside. Kids are making snowballs, snowball fights.

625
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, we got the singers again. Andy invites them

626
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 1>into the house and they're sharing eggnog. So they're going

627
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>all out, and it's just funny because they're all doing

628
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 1>this just to get fifty bucks per act of kindness,

629
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and plus with the money that the town is getting

630
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>for them to sell the house. I just find it

631
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 1>very amusing. I kind of forgot that there is a

632
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.559
<v Speaker 1>whole Christmas setting to this, and the third act it

633
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 1>does kind of remind you like, oh, if I lived

634
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in a small town, this is exactly how I would

635
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like it to be during the Christmas time. I did

636
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 1>enjoy it, just I did like that third act, how

637
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it kind of plays out, and how even Andy and

638
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth have to keep up this front. They really love

639
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 1>it here. They love each other, but unfortunately, due to circumstances,

640
00:32:59.359 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>they have to move.

641
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, you know, I'm glad you just covered the

642
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>entire third act that now it's interesting. I'm going to

643
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.000
<v Speaker 2>jump to a complaint here again, mister complaints here. Sorry, folks,

644
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>that's okay. This entire sequence doesn't actually really kick off

645
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>until an hour and twenty one minutes into the film.

646
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 2>There's only twenty minutes remaining in the entire movie, and

647
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 2>this is my favorite part. It feels like this is

648
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.359
<v Speaker 2>when the movie really starts to kick into high gear.

649
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 2>All the high jinks that ensued prior to this were

650
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>fun and light and I get it, and it creates

651
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>tension and causes obstacles for our protagonists. But because of

652
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>the lack of kind of relationship development, either between the

653
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>farmers or with the townsfolk, it was just high jinks.

654
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 2>But now this is like an interesting problem where they

655
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 2>do have to directly deal with all of the townsfolk,

656
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 2>almost all at once. Where they're doing this performative bit

657
00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:00.640
<v Speaker 2>embracing this Norman Rockwell lifestyle, and it's wonderful. I love

658
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>the holiday spirit, the Christmas spirit, the feel of this

659
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. Because I grew up in a small town.

660
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I always wanted it to be that way. It did

661
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 2>feel that way in moments, for sure, and I fall

662
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 2>in love with it. And every time I think of

663
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.599
<v Speaker 2>this particular film, Funny Farm, I will think of the

664
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>lamb fry scene, and I will think of this entire ending,

665
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 2>and I always feel like it's a bigger part of

666
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 2>the movie, and it really isn't. It's the very end,

667
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's so great, and it's very funny because all

668
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:34.119
<v Speaker 2>these townsfolk, they just want the farmer's money. They're just

669
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 2>doing it for the extra fifty bucks. One scene in

670
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 2>particular I want to call out has to do with

671
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 2>our crazed alcoholic mailman. I assume he's an alcoholic. The

672
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 2>sheriff led better. He does mention that the reason why

673
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 2>the mailman is so angry by the time he reaches

674
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 2>the farmer's household in Red Bud is that he's been

675
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:57.280
<v Speaker 2>drinking during his whole the mail route, and that he's

676
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 2>good and saucy by the time he gets there and

677
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 2>just honre and so he doesn't even stop to deliver

678
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 2>the mail. He just throws the mail out of the

679
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.880
<v Speaker 2>truck window and keeps driving off, and you kind of

680
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>hear his cackle fading off in the distance. And thus

681
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 2>you have Andy standing there next to the mailbox, just

682
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>left to pick up the mail off the ground. So

683
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 2>that's a stick that runs throughout the movie. It's a

684
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.199
<v Speaker 2>runner throughout the movie and now here because they've made

685
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.639
<v Speaker 2>this proposal. They're going to pay everyone fifty bucks if

686
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 2>they make an extra effort to be a traditional small town,

687
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the perfect small town in this setting of the Christmas

688
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and feeling all the holidays here while the farmers are

689
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 2>entertaining these prospective buyers of their house and they're all

690
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 2>sitting inside. You see this is great because you see

691
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Andy hear the backfire from the truck approaching the mailman's truck,

692
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 2>and he recognizes it right away and he's like, oh no,

693
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>this is going to ruin the whole ruse. If the

694
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 2>mailman comes in or just drives by and is rude

695
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 2>and throwing the mail out the window, it's just going

696
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.639
<v Speaker 2>to show a crack in this whole idea, and he

697
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want these buyers to see this. But then knock

698
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 2>on the door, ring the door, and Anni Farmer goes

699
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:08.599
<v Speaker 2>to the door, and there's the mailman, crumb Petree, looking

700
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty good, cleaned up. He's wearing his coat, his scarf,

701
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 2>his hat. I think he's got even like a mailman

702
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>insigny on his coat. And he's personally brought the mail

703
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.840
<v Speaker 2>to the farmers and steps in and he says, oh,

704
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.039
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, missus Farmer, Missus Petrie, my wife

705
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 2>wanted to give you this. This is her traditional rumnut

706
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 2>plum raisin cake of the season. And then he's introduced

707
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 2>to I think it's the Culbertsons who are these prospective buyers.

708
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 2>By the way, there's recognizable character actors throughout this, and

709
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it's Gilpin is his name. I can't remember

710
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>that his first name is one of the culbert sins here,

711
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>but another recognizable actor in this, and the crumb Peatree

712
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>is introduced to them, and now he's all put together

713
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 2>and he seems to be the nicest guy ever and

714
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>sober on top of it, and mentions, oh, he's going

715
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 2>to be really sorry to see the farmers go, and

716
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 2>as immediately as he says that, oh, it'll be really

717
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 2>sorry to see the farmers go, he lets out the

718
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:07.159
<v Speaker 2>most amazing cackle and I won't even try to impersonate it,

719
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.239
<v Speaker 2>but I want to give a shout out to Kevin Conway,

720
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 2>who plays Crumb Petrieck, because I love that cackle. And

721
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.639
<v Speaker 2>then he even pours on a little bit extra here

722
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 2>and says, oh, you know what, later on, I'm just

723
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 2>going to go do some ice fishing, you know. By

724
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.519
<v Speaker 2>the way he's looking at the buyers, he says, you know,

725
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pull out some nice sized pike out there

726
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>ice fishing, pouring it on thick, just portraying this as

727
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the perfect small town, and then ends up leaving and

728
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>to make sure to look at Andy and say, hey,

729
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be paying me a little extra, you know.

730
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 2>And so I love that because one of the funny

731
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.679
<v Speaker 2>things throughout it is that runner with the mailman blazing

732
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 2>by the mailbox and throwing the mail out, and now

733
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.000
<v Speaker 2>we see him all put together, but he still does

734
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the cackle, and we see him do it in person.

735
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 2>It's great. So I found that very amusing. Also, yeah,

736
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to back you up on the fact

737
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>that when all the krollers go inside the house and

738
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.440
<v Speaker 2>they're all still singing, that they all make that point

739
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 2>to say their full names one by one as they're

740
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>exiting to Andy, to make sure he remembers that they

741
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 2>are all individually owed fifty dollars. It's great.

742
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say of all the characters, the mailman

743
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.760
<v Speaker 1>does pay off for me because you are interested. In

744
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, you never see him. You just see the

745
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 1>cars go all by, and you just see the mail

746
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:27.360
<v Speaker 1>fly and a cackle, and and he becomes obsessed with

747
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to get him to stop. At one point tries

748
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 1>to roll a boulder into his mail truck. So then

749
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:38.280
<v Speaker 1>when he finally comes, there's that comedic tension because you're like, oh,

750
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 1>is he going to screw this up just because he

751
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>hates the farmers or we don't even know if he

752
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>hates the farmers, he just hates the fact he's got

753
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to drive out there for the mail, so you don't

754
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 1>know what's going to happen. The fact that he's so kind,

755
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, okay, but he has to say something

756
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>at the end, like I'm only doing this for the

757
00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>fifty bucks. The son of a Bitch. I'm out, Yeah,

758
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 1>it does work for me. I think it's the one

759
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.760
<v Speaker 1>character outside of Andrew Elizabeth that you kind of get to.

760
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say no a little bit, but I think

761
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the character overall pays off.

762
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I agree you see at least there's a change in

763
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the character. He almost has a mini arc, if you will,

764
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 2>like a mini mini mini arc. But still it's something.

765
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad you highlighted the whole third act, if

766
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>you will, because it's a lot of fun and that's

767
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:29.159
<v Speaker 2>really the highlight of the movie for me. There is

768
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:30.719
<v Speaker 2>some fun in this. I don't want to be mister

769
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Debbie Dunner either. There is definitely a movie that maybe

770
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 2>you just look back on and it's funnier when you

771
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.599
<v Speaker 2>quote it, almost funnier than when you're watching it.

772
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that takes us to Swiss Cheese and Complaints Apartment,

773
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and what don't we call it.

774
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Swiss Cheese because although this movie is delicious, it does

775
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.320
<v Speaker 2>have burnt manuscript holes.

776
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and if it doesn't have those burnt manuscript holes,

777
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.159
<v Speaker 1>we just file the complaint with the Complaints Apartment. So, Jason,

778
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>do you have anything left for Swiss cheese or complaint.

779
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I know, right, Well, let's go back to you briefly

780
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>touched on this the title itself. How do we feel

781
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 2>about the title? Funny farm? Terrible, not great? No, it

782
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.639
<v Speaker 2>implies either they're actually living on a farm with crazy

783
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:18.199
<v Speaker 2>things happening, which is not true, or that it's a

784
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 2>mental asylum with crazy people running around. And yeah, we

785
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:26.400
<v Speaker 2>have some goofy townspeople, but it's not a mental asylum,

786
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 2>and we get that. Of course, their last names are

787
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 2>they're the farmers, are protagonists, are protagonist couple, But still

788
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>it just doesn't ring true the title.

789
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>No, And even if you look at either of the posters,

790
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>there's the one poster where Chivi Chase has an egg

791
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 1>on his head, nothing like that happens in the movie,

792
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and the other one he's in a tractor with the dog.

793
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:51.119
<v Speaker 1>At least we have a dog at some point, very briefly.

794
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>The first one he buys runs off, which is kind

795
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.519
<v Speaker 1>of funny, but it's very misleading. I don't know what

796
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I would call it, because I'm always terrible when it

797
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.119
<v Speaker 1>comes to titles, but I definitely would not have come

798
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:00.880
<v Speaker 1>up with plenty farm.

799
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what do you have.

800
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, my complaint is Andy's treatment of the movers. Okay,

801
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Andy gives them a map of how to get to

802
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 1>the house, so they get lost. So Andy and Elizabeth

803
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 1>have to sleep on the floor one night. Sound like

804
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>it's been a couple of days. It's literally one day.

805
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Like my wife and I moved out to California, we

806
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:26.639
<v Speaker 1>didn't have furniture for four days, but we knew that

807
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 1>going in. Yeah, so I'm like, sleep on the floor

808
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.320
<v Speaker 1>for one night is not going to kill you. And

809
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:36.679
<v Speaker 1>when they show up, Andy is laying into them hard.

810
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, refund blah blah blah blah, And I'm like, dude,

811
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 1>at least your stuff is there. I'm sure there's tons

812
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>of horror stories about movers, and I've read a lot

813
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 1>about it, Like when you're moving and you're researching, that

814
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>is a scary thing. There's so many times where you

815
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>hear stories about movers who will bring your stuff and say, well,

816
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 1>now you have to pay this charge in order to

817
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>get for us to start on loading your stuff. So

818
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they showed up and started unloading right away,

819
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>granted it was going into the lake out back.

820
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, another actual fun moment, let's

821
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 2>give credit to that is. I love that moment when

822
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>that character one of the movers, is like, immediately they're

823
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 2>unloading the truck after you have Andy like running alongside

824
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the truck as it's pulling in, berating them, and he

825
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>just goes straight for like the office chair walks right

826
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.719
<v Speaker 2>and Andy's like, okay, finally you're unloading. You're gonna move

827
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>this stuff into our house. And the guy just walks

828
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.239
<v Speaker 2>right by Andy with the chair in hand and throws

829
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>it directly into the lake. Really funny.

830
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You're just excited that they showed up and just be like,

831
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>oh right, I'd be more curious, like you know what happened?

832
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you?

833
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Yeah, what happened to you? Yeah?

834
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the way he came into them, like, no,

835
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 1>I felt the movers did the right thing. I think

836
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:55.639
<v Speaker 1>I would have threw his chair in the lake too.

837
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I would give a crap at that point.

838
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's funny. There's a funny line earlier than that,

839
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.480
<v Speaker 2>when you see the movers are stuck in the truck overnight.

840
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 2>They have to basically sleep outside. They're in the truck technically,

841
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:08.880
<v Speaker 2>but one of them says to the other is something

842
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 2>about you need to hold onto that map because I'm

843
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.199
<v Speaker 2>gonna need it as evidence as to a murder or

844
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.199
<v Speaker 2>something along the way. He's like, yeah, why, He's like,

845
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:18.519
<v Speaker 2>because I'm going to kill the son of a bitch

846
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:22.400
<v Speaker 2>true that map. It's pretty fun anyway, I have some

847
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 2>character issues, motivation issues. There's a couple scenes maybe that'll

848
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 2>explain this. The anniversary evening for the farmers. We know

849
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the lampfry scene right, very amusing, very funny, memorable. But

850
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 2>then they move on to a bungalow where they're going

851
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:41.039
<v Speaker 2>to spend the evening in just a romantic little bungalow,

852
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 2>and the fireplace is there. It's a beautiful setting here.

853
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 2>And then this is where Andy just turns extremely selfish.

854
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:53.000
<v Speaker 2>It's the evening of their anniversary, and his gift to

855
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth is the fact that he finally finished the first

856
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 2>draft this manuscript of his great novel, which I think

857
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 2>is it called The Big Heist. It sounds right, it

858
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.199
<v Speaker 2>was something like that he called it. It's basically The

859
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Ocean's Eleven Ideas, and he forces Elizabeth to read the

860
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:12.159
<v Speaker 2>entire draft there that night in front of him, and

861
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of like what are you doing? Man?

862
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 2>And I get there's supposed to be some comedy to this, right,

863
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>it's a funny thing. But he's just so oblivious to

864
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 2>taking care of It's their anniversary, he should be taking

865
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>care of her and thinking about her needs. But he

866
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 2>forces her to read the draft and then that goes

867
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 2>to hell because she hates it, and then he throws

868
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.679
<v Speaker 2>it into the fireplace and then has to try to

869
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:38.159
<v Speaker 2>save it anyway. After this, then, of course she is

870
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:42.119
<v Speaker 2>It's revealed that she's been working on her own book,

871
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.519
<v Speaker 2>a children's book, and has completed it, has turned it

872
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 2>into a publisher, and has received five thousand dollars in

873
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 2>a contract to have it published, all these things, and

874
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>this sets Andy off. He becomes a jealous jerk, and

875
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 2>he turns into a drunk and then ends up betraying

876
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 2>her and stealing her manuscript and handing it over to

877
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 2>his publisher as if it were his own. And it's

878
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.000
<v Speaker 2>like he really turns into a prick, and that makes

879
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:09.880
<v Speaker 2>him very unlikable. And what I don't understand Bill, then

880
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.639
<v Speaker 2>is at the end, when we have our beautiful scenic

881
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Christmas seasonal third act, she seems to make a quick

882
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:22.559
<v Speaker 2>turnaround and I don't understand why he treated her very poorly.

883
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.320
<v Speaker 2>She wants a divorce. They're going to the lawyer, they're

884
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to get a divorce, and they're selling the house.

885
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 2>But now because everything looks on the surface so perfect,

886
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 2>because they've paid off the townsfolk, it kind of gives

887
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 2>them this feeling of, oh, now we realize we're in

888
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the right place, we made the right move. This is

889
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:46.119
<v Speaker 2>so beautiful here and the people are so great. And

890
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 2>now she's back in love with Andy. She's forgiven him.

891
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>It seems real quick to me, And I had a big,

892
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 2>big complaint with that. It just made no sense to me.

893
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really didn't like Andy's jealousy towards Elizabeth with

894
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the children's book, and when he says to her, you

895
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:05.159
<v Speaker 1>know nothing about writing, but then says she's an English teacher.

896
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 1>She seems pretty qualified. Just with that alone, right, And

897
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 1>just because she doesn't like it doesn't mean it's finished, right, Yeah, absolutely,

898
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just the first draft. Yeah, so just ask what's

899
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:23.079
<v Speaker 1>wrong and see what he needs to fix. But he

900
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>just goes on this whole ti rate. And then with

901
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 1>the children's book, he gets super upset about that that

902
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't work for me. I think at least he comes

903
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:36.119
<v Speaker 1>to realize he made that mistake. I think with a

904
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth because that she didn't like living out there, but

905
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:45.760
<v Speaker 1>then it inspired her to write that book and maybe

906
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 1>many books in the future. She learns to forgive Andy

907
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.280
<v Speaker 1>for it. But yeah, we don't see it. It just

908
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:56.039
<v Speaker 1>seems very abrupt because it almost sounds like they don't

909
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 1>want to get divorced because I had to wait till

910
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>July and it costs a lot of money because they

911
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.880
<v Speaker 1>don't love each other. And Andy realizes what a dumbass

912
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 1>he was, which he kind of emits at one point,

913
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>at least when he has to sleep on the floor

914
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and he says, I basically fuck everything up, right.

915
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:13.639
<v Speaker 2>That's there's a moment.

916
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why people actually like Chase's performance

917
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>in this because it's the one time he almost humanizes

918
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>himself a little bit.

919
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I see that, Okay, I like that. I like that. Now.

920
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Just going back I think to the overall complaint is

921
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the fact that this entire holiday scene, this Christmas scene,

922
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't start until an hour and twenty minutes into the film,

923
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's only an hour and forty minutes forty one

924
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.239
<v Speaker 2>minutes long, so I do appreciate the run time. By

925
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 2>the way, However, structurally I would have liked to see

926
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:44.719
<v Speaker 2>and I don't mean to rewrite the movie, but I

927
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.440
<v Speaker 2>just would have appreciated less high jinks in the beginning,

928
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe only twenty minutes or so, let's get to really

929
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.239
<v Speaker 2>meet some of these townsfolk. But it's very interesting to

930
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 2>me the idea of going to a town where then

931
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:00.239
<v Speaker 2>all the people that live there are faking it, like

932
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.119
<v Speaker 2>they're really putting on a show, so everything so I

933
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.599
<v Speaker 2>like that idea. There's something about pretending and that everything

934
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:10.239
<v Speaker 2>being on the surface level everything looks great, but then

935
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 2>finding out that there's more underneath, and that could relate

936
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.960
<v Speaker 2>to also the farmer's relationship when they're moving out there,

937
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.960
<v Speaker 2>pretending as if now we've changed locations and we're in

938
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 2>this beautiful place, everything's going to be great. I will

939
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:26.639
<v Speaker 2>be inspired to write the perfect book, and she's going

940
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:28.320
<v Speaker 2>to be the perfect wife, and we're going to have

941
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 2>the most romantic build a family out here, when that's

942
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 2>just not the reality. The reality is life is hard

943
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 2>no matter where you are, and people are quirky and

944
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 2>weird and goofy, and shit happens and we all have

945
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 2>to find a way to get along and prosper together. Right,

946
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:48.360
<v Speaker 2>So I would have liked to kind of seen that

947
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:51.760
<v Speaker 2>theme play out, not just in the last twenty minutes,

948
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.800
<v Speaker 2>but throughout three quarters of the movie.

949
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be kind of funny if the town

950
00:48:56.519 --> 00:49:00.760
<v Speaker 1>really portrayed this ideal setting and the longer they live

951
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.159
<v Speaker 1>there they start seeing the cracks and just tell everybody

952
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:04.320
<v Speaker 1>is weird and quirky.

953
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, for sure. The scene that plays out on

954
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 2>the boat with the fish hook in the neck and

955
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 2>pulling it just was really over the top for me.

956
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 2>It gets like really gaggy, and it's just kind of

957
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't care for that scene that jumped.

958
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.079
<v Speaker 1>That was a little cringe for me. Yeah, that whole

959
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 1>scene doesn't work.

960
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 2>When he's fishing in his own lake behind their beautiful

961
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:27.559
<v Speaker 2>home and he pulls that giant water snake out, that's

962
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:29.920
<v Speaker 2>goofy and silly because you can tell it's like a

963
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 2>giant rubber thing that probably comes fright out, but it's

964
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:34.599
<v Speaker 2>still a little bit of a surprise, And it's kind

965
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 2>of funny because he's a great physical comedian in the

966
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 2>way he reacts to it. It works in that scenario.

967
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:42.360
<v Speaker 2>But the boat, You're right.

968
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. The snake scenario is plausible. You're fishing

969
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 1>in the lake. There's sometimes snakes and lakes. Yeah, But

970
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>here it is. You go downtown with your wife. These

971
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:55.679
<v Speaker 1>guys ask you to go on a fishing trip. It's

972
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>not a twenty minute trip. Your wife's going to come

973
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.639
<v Speaker 1>back from the store and go where the hell's my

974
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.360
<v Speaker 1>husband and he's gonna be fishing for the next three

975
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:04.679
<v Speaker 1>hours or two hours? Why would you agree to go

976
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 1>on the boat?

977
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

978
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just an unplausible scenario. So the rest of it

979
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.840
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't work for Maison Fountain to find it very funny.

980
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:12.199
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm gonna stop there.

981
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Time to move on to Hey, it's that actor? All right?

982
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>So this segment we spotlight a character actor you have

983
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.519
<v Speaker 1>seen in many other films, an actor making their big

984
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>screen debut, or an actor that makes an un ready

985
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to cameo. It's Hey, it's an actor. So who do

986
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:30.679
<v Speaker 1>we choose this week? Because there are a lot of

987
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.400
<v Speaker 1>choices in this one. I was surprised, Yeah, no kidding.

988
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Every other actor in this is a Hey it's that

989
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.280
<v Speaker 2>actor that's recognizable you're like, Wow, who is he or

990
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 2>she from?

991
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 1>What?

992
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:42.440
<v Speaker 2>What is that movie that they were in? It's great?

993
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:46.119
<v Speaker 2>So this week we've chosen for our Hey, it's that actor,

994
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Mike Star, Mike Starr. He plays one of the movers,

995
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and funny enough, the other mover actor actually is a

996
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Speaker 2>hey it's that actor too. As soon as I saw him, like, hey,

997
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:58.719
<v Speaker 2>isn't he the guy driving the black Jack war and speed?

998
00:50:59.159 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that that guy?

999
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:00.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It is?

1000
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Goodwe totally so. But Mike Starr is great, immediately

1001
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:09.639
<v Speaker 2>recognizable American character actor from New York City, standing tall

1002
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:13.519
<v Speaker 2>at six three and a half. Known for playing bullying characters,

1003
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:17.159
<v Speaker 2>he worked as a bouncer and bartender before landing a

1004
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 2>small part in the film Cruising in nineteen eighty. As

1005
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.519
<v Speaker 2>it goes back to nineteen eighty, he's got two hundred

1006
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 2>and forty five credits on IMDb. So yes, Mike Starr

1007
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 2>was in Cruising in nineteen eighty. Then he was in

1008
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.159
<v Speaker 2>the Natural in eighty four. He's in the Money Pit

1009
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 2>in eighty six, looking forward to doing that on this podcast.

1010
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>He was in a couple episodes of Crime Story in

1011
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven. The film Who's That Girl? With Madonna in

1012
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven, Funny Farm in eighty eight, and Punchline in

1013
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight, Lean On Me in eighty nine, Uncle Buck

1014
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:50.199
<v Speaker 2>as a character called Pooter the Clown in eighty nine,

1015
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:52.840
<v Speaker 2>and then he is briefly featured in Born on the

1016
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Fourth of July, also in eighty nine. So here's some

1017
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:58.800
<v Speaker 2>highlights of his After the eighties. He was in Blue Steel,

1018
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 2>good Fellas as character Frenchy Miller's crossing Billy Bathgate, free

1019
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Jack the Bodyguard, the Hotsucker Proxy, and he has a

1020
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:11.239
<v Speaker 2>great role in ed Wood. That's one film you definitely

1021
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:15.480
<v Speaker 2>would recognize him from. But the film I always associate

1022
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>him with is Dumb and Dumber. That's what I think of. First,

1023
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:22.960
<v Speaker 2>he plays the character Joe Medalino, and I believe the

1024
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:26.559
<v Speaker 2>big scene with him and Jim Carrey when he's choking

1025
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:30.159
<v Speaker 2>on the hot peppers initially when they're at the diner restaurant,

1026
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and then Carrie accidentally feeds him the poison pills as

1027
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.800
<v Speaker 2>that's what happens, and then he's like foaming at the mouth.

1028
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Mike Stars, Oh, I remember the together the most annoying

1029
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:43.519
<v Speaker 1>sound in the world.

1030
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course. Yeah, So Mike Starr great, done it.

1031
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:52.400
<v Speaker 2>He does a ton of TV episodes, makes appearances on

1032
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.599
<v Speaker 2>a variety of soap opera's Funny Enough and still working.

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<v Speaker 2>Has some upcoming projects. Love Mike stars, great character actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's funny. When you were listing off his credits,

1035
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, yep, I remember what seeing he said,

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00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh yep, I could see it as clear as today.

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00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.400
<v Speaker 1>If you asked me before to name I'm like, I

1038
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:11.519
<v Speaker 1>can't name anything outside Dumb and Dumber. But as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you're saying the credits, I'm like, oh, yeah, I

1040
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>remember what's seen yous in that movie. So yeah, definitely

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00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>an excellent choice for Hey, it's that actor.

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00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Just gonna give it a couple of shout outs to

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00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.159
<v Speaker 2>some other Hey it's that actors, because I was trying

1044
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 2>to remember this gentleman's name. He plays one of the Culbertson's,

1045
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:26.719
<v Speaker 2>the prospective buyers of the Farmer's house. That was Jack Gilpin,

1046
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 2>very recognizable. I believe it's Alice Drummond who plays Ethel

1047
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Dingis or Dingus who has the antique store. She's very recognizable. Yep,

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00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:41.320
<v Speaker 2>there you go. There's more that I'm missing here. Oh

1049
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:43.400
<v Speaker 2>who is it that plays the lawyer. He was very

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00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 2>recognizable to Michael.

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00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it's thinking of the publisher guy, Michael Sinclair.

1052
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah he too, Yeah sure, yeah, anyway, he watched

1053
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 2>the movie a lot of recognizable faces. So I apologize

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00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:57.960
<v Speaker 2>for not naming all the actors here, but we got

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00:53:58.000 --> 00:53:58.599
<v Speaker 2>to move along.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, many, many all right, Time to move on to

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00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 1>facts and trivia. What are some facts of trivia we

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<v Speaker 1>have about Funny Farm.

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<v Speaker 2>The film was mostly shot in southeastern Vermont, including the

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00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>towns of Windsor, Vermont and Townshend, Vermont, and they were

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00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:19.079
<v Speaker 2>using locals as extras. This is from IMDb. By the way,

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00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the Townshend Common, the Townshend Common area today has an

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00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:27.719
<v Speaker 2>unusual souvenir from the production of Funny Farm, because to

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00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 2>make the trees on the common look as if it

1065
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.639
<v Speaker 2>was mid autumn, the film crew dyed the leaves, which

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00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.960
<v Speaker 2>killed all the trees except for one in the middle

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00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:41.599
<v Speaker 2>of the common. Today, the ring of newly planted trees

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00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.639
<v Speaker 2>around the edge of the common are significantly shorter than

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00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the much larger one that survived the filming of Funny Farm.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoops, yeah right, oops, see so this was interesting. You know,

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00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:56.039
<v Speaker 1>who is supposed to be in this movie. Jason tell

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00:54:56.039 --> 00:55:00.639
<v Speaker 1>me Bill band Sarah Michelle Geller was he supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>play one of Elizabeth's students in an early scene in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie.

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00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Well that would make sense because I'm like

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00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:10.960
<v Speaker 2>she had been very young at that time. Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>So unfortunately that scene was to lead it and I

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00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.719
<v Speaker 1>couldn't find it anywhere. M Yeah, I think that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been one of her first credits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no kidding.

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00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Things turned out okay for her, she did.

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00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:28.159
<v Speaker 1>So Ivy's Cafe where Andy eats lamb fries was not

1084
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:31.159
<v Speaker 1>in fact an actual restaurant. It was a set built

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00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:34.920
<v Speaker 1>in Townsend, Vermont, specifically for the film, and was destroyed

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00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.239
<v Speaker 1>after filming goes over. The site of the set is

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00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.960
<v Speaker 1>now occupied by residential homes which are across the street

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00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:44.159
<v Speaker 1>from the gazebo in Townshend where Andy is seen running

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00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.519
<v Speaker 1>to the softball game while Elizabeth goes antique shopping.

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<v Speaker 2>This Funny Farm was the first of three consecutive movie

1091
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 2>adaptations of Jay Cronley novels in three consecutive years. The

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00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:00.320
<v Speaker 2>subsequent adaptations were Let It Ride in eighty nine, one

1093
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:04.360
<v Speaker 2>of my cult favorites, and another cult favorite quick Change

1094
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.400
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety. We'll have to save that one for

1095
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the All Nineties Movies podcast. Yes, love both those movies.

1096
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm a big fan of Let It Rite.

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00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we know that one for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a rough year at the box office for

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00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:21.599
<v Speaker 2>mister Chevy Chase. So yeah, this was one of two

1100
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty eight movies starring Chase. The other was Caddyshack two.

1101
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I guess they're saying, well, Funny Farm was a minor hit. Well,

1102
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Caddyshak two was a box office bomb, but Chase also

1103
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.880
<v Speaker 2>cameoed in the box office bomb The Couch Trip of

1104
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:37.519
<v Speaker 2>the same year in eighty eight.

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00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:41.599
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, yeah, tough year for him. So the kid who

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00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>steals the street sign at the beginning of the movie

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00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.320
<v Speaker 1>was an extra from Windsor High School, where a fair

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00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:49.880
<v Speaker 1>amount of the filming takes place. He had not becoming

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00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 1>a local cop.

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00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had that too, that's funny. Last one I

1111
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 2>got here real quick bill is the four thousand dollars

1112
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:04.599
<v Speaker 2>bill for Claude Musselman's funeral. That's the the casket with

1113
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 2>the bones that was dug up in the farmer's backyard.

1114
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.800
<v Speaker 2>That was claud Musselman in there. The four thousand dollars

1115
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 2>bill for Claude Musselman's funeral would equate to a little

1116
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:18.599
<v Speaker 2>over eleven thousand dollars in twenty twenty five. Ouch, yeah,

1117
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.159
<v Speaker 2>chuck a change, all right.

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00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Moving on to box office, so, Funny Farm was released

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00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 1>on June third, nineteen eighty eight, in one thousand, five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty seven theaters with an estimated budget of

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00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:33.559
<v Speaker 1>nineteen million. Bunny Farm pulled in twenty five point five

1122
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>million domestically. The film debuted number four at the box office,

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<v Speaker 1>behind Big, which also opened that week in less theaters,

1124
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and Funny Farm would only last another three weeks in

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00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the top ten and would be the thirty ninth highest

1126
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.320
<v Speaker 1>grossing movie of nineteen eighty eight, just ahead of Alien Nation,

1127
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>which we covered back in season four.

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00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah going against Big, that's tough.

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00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who knew, right? Moving on to reviews. When growing

1130
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:03.159
<v Speaker 1>up in the eighties, we would watch at the movies

1131
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>with Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert to hear the reviews

1132
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and watch clips of upcoming movies. Their review of Funny

1133
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:13.519
<v Speaker 1>Farm was unanimous two thumbs up. Ebert described the film

1134
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>as one of the year's Funniest Movies, while Ciskel called

1135
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:22.119
<v Speaker 1>it the best chase film his made. Together, Ciskel and

1136
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Ebert praised the film for its abundance of laugh out

1137
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:31.400
<v Speaker 1>loud moments, sharp direction, striking cinematography, and precise editing to

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00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:34.639
<v Speaker 1>consistently end scenes at the perfect moment.

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00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Wow, no kidding, You know it's funny Bilt because I

1140
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:42.440
<v Speaker 2>left out one piece of trivia here and I'll just

1141
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:46.480
<v Speaker 2>put it appropriately in this segment. Gene Siskel said he

1142
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.199
<v Speaker 2>received the most complaints from Ciskel and Ebert viewers for

1143
00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 2>recommending this film. So the viewers the audience did not

1144
00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:59.360
<v Speaker 2>agree with Ciskel and Ebert's very positive outlook on this film.

1145
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.320
<v Speaker 1>So Rotten Tomatoes gives it a Tomato Meter score of

1146
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:07.400
<v Speaker 1>sixty four percent, with the Popcorn Meter score of fifty

1147
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 1>one percent, and also has an IMDb rating of six

1148
00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:14.679
<v Speaker 1>point two. So that takes us to additional thoughts and questions.

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00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>What are some additional thoughts and questions you have about

1150
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Funny Farm?

1151
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Did you have a question right off the.

1152
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Top, Jason, what is the weirdest thing you've ever eaten?

1153
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:27.639
<v Speaker 1>That is great?

1154
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, I wish I could remember I was on

1155
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:33.719
<v Speaker 2>a cruise ship and we went to a restaurer was

1156
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 2>a great like themed restaurant. I want to say. It

1157
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:40.159
<v Speaker 2>had an Alison Wonderland theme. And there were some really

1158
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:43.880
<v Speaker 2>strange dishes they were serving and I can't think of them.

1159
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:46.719
<v Speaker 2>It was just interesting recipes and you wouldn't think to

1160
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.280
<v Speaker 2>put this with that, but it paired nicely and it

1161
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:51.119
<v Speaker 2>was very tasty. And now I can't think of any

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00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:54.079
<v Speaker 2>of those items. I just I can tell you this much.

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00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget the first time I tried octopus a

1164
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.360
<v Speaker 2>sushi restaurant. I know that's not weird for a lot

1165
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:01.960
<v Speaker 2>of people, but it was for me because I had

1166
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.159
<v Speaker 2>never had sushi and this was my first time ever.

1167
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:06.000
<v Speaker 2>And this was in Miami, and I remember Craig Rose

1168
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.199
<v Speaker 2>being there and he's like, oh, yeah, I try this

1169
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.880
<v Speaker 2>octopus and I'm chewing on a tentacle with the suckers

1170
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:12.199
<v Speaker 2>on it, and I'm like, this is not for me.

1171
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.000
<v Speaker 2>This is definitely not for me. I wasn't going to

1172
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:19.920
<v Speaker 2>break any record eating the most amount of octopus in

1173
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:23.960
<v Speaker 2>one sitting. However, Yeah, I'll have to think about that

1174
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and see if I can come up with something else.

1175
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 2>But the weirdest strangest thing I've ever eaten. What do

1176
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 2>you have for this?

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01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I think my number one would be jellyfish?

1178
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, wow, just because the.

1179
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Connotation of jellyfish is stinging and stuff like that. Where

1180
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:42.119
<v Speaker 1>did you have jellyfish in Hong Kong? Okay?

1181
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1182
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's very chewy and not much flavor to be honest,

1183
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:52.119
<v Speaker 1>so I don't think you have to try. But yeah,

1184
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:54.400
<v Speaker 1>when they put it at our table, I was the

1185
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:56.519
<v Speaker 1>only one that would try it. I'm like, what's the

1186
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:57.400
<v Speaker 1>worst it going to happen?

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01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:01.079
<v Speaker 2>That just makes me think of when you hear the

1188
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:03.880
<v Speaker 2>nightmare stories about is it puffer fish? Oh?

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01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the.

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01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Very poisonous if you get the wrong Yeah.

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01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Just looks like a giant piece of gelatine. Just but yeah,

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01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I was super chewy. Second, I would go with cow's tongue. Okay,

1193
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember where I had that at, but we

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01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:21.119
<v Speaker 1>were at there was a bunch of us and we

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01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:23.599
<v Speaker 1>were at a deli and they were serving it and

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01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:25.840
<v Speaker 1>everyone was daring each other to try it, and I'm like,

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01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:26.559
<v Speaker 1>I'll try it.

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01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Actually wasn't bad. There you go, tastes like chicken. Just kidding.

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01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:33.760
<v Speaker 1>No, Well, the third thing people say taste like chicken

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01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:38.920
<v Speaker 1>A lot alligator of course. H down in South Florida,

1201
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:42.559
<v Speaker 1>I would say that's very close to chicken. So maybe

1202
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:44.679
<v Speaker 1>people would be like, no, dude, you actually ate chicken.

1203
01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:46.760
<v Speaker 1>They just said it was alligator, But no, I think

1204
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it was alligator.

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01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:50.039
<v Speaker 2>This was my mom. That would be my big three

1206
01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Great stuff. Man, Bill Bant, you're a writer. Sometimes I'm

1207
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:58.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna ask maybe a few questions regarding this, and you're

1208
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you're writing relationship with your wife, Hillary the Lovely Hillary Band.

1209
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever had her read something of yours to

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01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.320
<v Speaker 2>give you feedback and how have you reacted to this feedback?

1211
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever had to react to perhaps negative feedback

1212
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:18.280
<v Speaker 2>as Andy Farmer has to deal with from Elizabeth in

1213
01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 2>this film.

1214
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a good question. There's definitely some things I've

1215
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:25.119
<v Speaker 1>given her to read. I don't think she's ever given

1216
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 1>like pure negative feedback like Elizabeth did. But yeah, sometimes

1217
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:35.800
<v Speaker 1>she'll have questions and I'll have to answer or constructive criticism,

1218
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:39.199
<v Speaker 1>which I think most of the times warned because maybe

1219
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.079
<v Speaker 1>something's not explained correctly, so I have to go back

1220
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:42.639
<v Speaker 1>and fix it.

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01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.360
<v Speaker 2>So you do share your writing with her when it

1222
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.280
<v Speaker 2>comes to your Yeah, on occasion like screenplays. Yeah, yeah,

1223
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.000
<v Speaker 2>not talking novels here, of course, we're taking more like

1224
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 2>writreen writing. Yeah, okay, okay, Because I was just going

1225
01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:59.599
<v Speaker 2>to ask, then, what how would you feel if Hillary

1226
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:03.599
<v Speaker 2>wrote a screenplay and managed selling it for a million dollars?

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01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't care.

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01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'd love it? Yeah, exactly, you are. Bill Bant

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01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't get jealous for.

1230
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:12.599
<v Speaker 1>A million dollars. I'm not gonna tell.

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01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:16.920
<v Speaker 2>You be like, way to be Hillary, keep writing?

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01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, god, one thousand dollars, I'd be excited.

1233
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to keep rolling with this writing theme

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01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.360
<v Speaker 2>that I just was in my head about, just because

1235
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I always I am curious with other writers, you know,

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01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:30.480
<v Speaker 2>as to their process. Right. So Andy and Elizabeth they

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<v Speaker 2>move out to this beautiful country and Vermont, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where he feels he will find his inspiration, find the

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<v Speaker 2>the space and the time to pursue his novel. What's

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<v Speaker 2>your great What's what's your preferred creative space? Bill Bant

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<v Speaker 2>is a writer, what's your ideal space to work in?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I have it right now? Pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the house I can find. Yeah, yeah, so if

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<v Speaker 1>I had the perfect setting, it would be like a

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<v Speaker 1>house over looking the beach. Yeah, that would be it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the countryside's cute with the bird out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always thought about it if I had the money,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was really successful, I'd want some beachfront property

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be sitting by a huge window overlooking the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. Yeah, it's similar. I mean it's similar

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<v Speaker 2>to this film. Similar to you, I would I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>up in the mountains. I'd have a cabin in the mountains.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like the rural setting. I'd like that type of scenery. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I really love my quiet. I need the quiet, which

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting. It's changed over the years where I used

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<v Speaker 2>to always be listening to music, and I still very

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<v Speaker 2>very much thousand percent need music as inspiration. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to have my music. But I used to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>music a lot while I was writing, versus now I

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<v Speaker 2>think I really just treasure the silence.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's funny you brought this up about the money

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<v Speaker 1>with the equivalent nowadays. But I wanted to know how

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<v Speaker 1>much it was going to cost Andy and Elizabeth today

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<v Speaker 1>if they tried that with the thifty dollars. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, that equiveland today would be one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six rounded up one hundred and thirty seven dollars

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<v Speaker 1>they would have to give each townfolk for kindness today's dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I also was wondering just guestimating how many townsfolk there were?

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<v Speaker 2>How many people? I mean, what was the population of Redbud? Like, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you think they probably had to pay like fifty people,

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five more?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I would say over one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a lot, a lot of people participating,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think I would have started around the ten

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<v Speaker 1>dollars mark, Yeah, start low. Last thing for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>found this very interesting and it certainly made a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Smith sense. So Madeline Smith was actually the first

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<v Speaker 1>choice to replace Shelley Longlan cheers no kidding. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly she has health issues which kind of prevented her

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<v Speaker 1>from taking the role. Huh when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, then they picked uh Cursty Allie. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure I said it right. Christi Ali,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, it makes sense. They look almost alike.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Bill, this is great. I could totally see Madeline

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<v Speaker 2>Smith in that part. Yes, thousand, absolutely, she would have

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<v Speaker 2>been great. Yeah, yeah, she would have been excellent on cheers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think she had some comedic chops in

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<v Speaker 2>this movie. She's pretty funny in her delivery. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I thought she was good. Yeah, I said serviceable earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>and that sounds as though it's a ding, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not really. I think she was good in this agreed. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really have anything else for thoughts or questions,

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<v Speaker 2>not as of now.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to rating then. All right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so here we go on a scale of one to

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<v Speaker 1>five lamb Fries. What do you give funny Farm?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to surprise our listeners here a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of in a because of the I do

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<v Speaker 2>love the ending, and I do have a nostalgic attachment

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<v Speaker 2>to this film, and I do still look upon it

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<v Speaker 2>overall fondly. I I'm going to give it three lamb Fries.

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<v Speaker 2>I may begrudgingly maybe have to downgrade it to two

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<v Speaker 2>point five that was my initial lamb Fry rating, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give it three because I'm feeling positive

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<v Speaker 2>and upbeat today. I have to say it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>wild to think that the director of Butch Casside and

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<v Speaker 2>The Sun Dance Kid made this movie and went safe

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<v Speaker 2>with it doing this version because the book was not

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<v Speaker 2>as safe, and that's what Jeffery Bowe wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, this is George broy Hill's vision of it,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was, yeah, I agree with you, Bill, fine safe.

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt like the development, especially at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the relationship between Andy and Elizabeth, wasn't fully fleshed out.

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<v Speaker 2>I wished the obstacles with it of their relationship, the

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<v Speaker 2>writing and the betrayal and stuff had happened sooner and

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<v Speaker 2>that we could have gotten to the good stuff this

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<v Speaker 2>Norman Rockwell Christmas painting of Red Bud. I wished all

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<v Speaker 2>that had happened sooner in the films because that was

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<v Speaker 2>the most fun. But chevy Chase, he's fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>He might you know why chevy Chase. He reminds me

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01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:03.719
<v Speaker 2>of my dad. And I'm not you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>at all talking about chevy Chase is off screen persona

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<v Speaker 2>or the things that say this is strictly the chevy

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<v Speaker 2>Chase characters that he portrays, particularly Clark Griswold and National Lampoons.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the always like kind of a gentle giant, tall,

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<v Speaker 2>handsome guy that's always positive, always has an idea of

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<v Speaker 2>things to do in itinerary, a plan and goals and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that, and just wants to enjoy the outdoors

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<v Speaker 2>and travel and all these things. That's my dad. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's goofy and he's silly too, and he has silly

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<v Speaker 2>jokes and things. So I do appreciate Chevy Chase characters

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<v Speaker 2>for that because those characters he portrays remind me of

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<v Speaker 2>my dad in the best possible way. So he's good

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<v Speaker 2>in this. I didn't think. This is not Fletch, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not National Lampoon, it's not Candy Shack. But he's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I found the chemistry between him and Madeline Smith fine

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<v Speaker 2>and good, and yeah, I would still. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>said this earlier too, Bill, so to reiterate, if you

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<v Speaker 2>come across this, give it a watch, give it a watch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's feel good at the end. So I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>it three lamp fries.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you. I originally wrote three, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're going through the podcast, I'm like, do I need

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<v Speaker 1>to knock this down to two right that half? But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna keep it at three because I

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<v Speaker 1>do laugh. It does make me smile. But when you, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>break it down, there's a lot of flaws. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a weird thing. It's like, if you never see the movie,

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01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you'll be okay. But I think if you watch it,

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01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you'll enjoy it. It's not a must watch if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna watch Chevy Chase movies. Yeah, this is probably the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth or sixth to one I'm gonna list. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not missing anything, but it won't hurt to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, I've watched a ton of times. I

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<v Speaker 1>was still enjoying it. It goes by quick. Yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. That ending scene, Yeah, I wish that did

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<v Speaker 1>play a little bit longer, well said. Okay, that about

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<v Speaker 1>wraps up for this episode. As always, we appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in. Don't forget to follow us on your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>dive into another classic from the greatest movie decade ever

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighties. Till then, stay cool. We have an

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<v Speaker 1>excellent to everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>As a novelist. I turned out to be a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good sports writer. Thanks for staying up with us. Goodnight World,