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Speaker 1: Anyone Juice Everything Podcast. Hello and welcome the All Eighties

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Movies Podcast, the podcast where we talk about the blockbusters,

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the flops, and everything in between from one of the

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precious decades from movies, the nineteen eighties. I'm your host

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Phil bet Long Beyond this journey revisiting eighties movies is

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my co host Jason Massek. Hello, Jason, Remember missus farmer.

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Whenever you buy a house, whatever's in the ground belongs

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to you, whether it's gold or oil or Claude Muscleman.

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That's right, listeners, we are discussing with spoilers of plenty,

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the nineteen eighty eight Fish out of Water comedy Funny Farm.

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It was produced by Film Futures and distributed by Entertainment

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Film Distributors. Movie stars Chevy Chase and Madeline Smith. Directed

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by George roy Hill, This movie's right at PG with

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a running time of one hour and forty one minutes.

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This movie was adapted from the nineteen eighty five comedic

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novel of the same name by Jay Cronley. So what

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is this movie about? What's on the box if you

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grow up in the nineteen eighties, and what's your local

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video store to rend this movie. You would fine this

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description on the back of the VHS box. It is

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what's on the box. Take it away, Jason.

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Speaker 2: When chevy Chase plays a Manhattan sportswriter who abandons his

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career for life in the country, you know that getting

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away from it all will inevitably mean Chevy's getting in deeper,

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and that the serenity of smalltown USA will hilariously turn

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into a city slickers nightmare. Funning Farm delivers the gut

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busting fund you expect from chevy Chase. National Lampoon's Vacation,

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National Lampoon's European Fagation. Fletch Spies Like Us and The

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Three Amigos tops It's performances in all those films with

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his pratt falling portrayal of urban transplant Andy Farmer. Madeline

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Smith co stars as Andy's supportive wife. Together, the Funny

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Farmers learned that the eccentric people and events of their

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new hometown outnumber even the mosquitoes. The postman guns along

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the back roads like mad Max. The sheriff travels nowhere

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without a chauffeur. Gruesome discoveries turn up in the garden

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and pond, and Andy becomes the punchline of the movie's

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rowdiest gag when he unsuspectingly brags call me mister lamb

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Fryes call Funny Farm. Endlessly entertaining, filled with comic delights.

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It also features the buoyant direction of George roy Hill,

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a vibrant Elmer Bernstein score, and the lush cinematography of

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Miroslav Underchek. Harvest the good times from Funny Farm.

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Speaker 1: Funny Farm, So that was what's on the box. Let's

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move on to her eighty snapshot as we highlight some

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of the creative forces from this movie.

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Speaker 2: Jason. For my eighties snapshot, I chose Jeffrey Boom, the

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screenwriter of Funny Farm. Jeffrey Bohm, writer and producer from Rochester,

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New York. Here's a little trivia actually from IMDb about

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Jeffrey Boem. Before becoming a successful screenwriter, he actually worked

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as a studio executive for many years. I never knew

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that Boem's films that he wrote screenplays for have a

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cumulative gross of over one billion dollars. That's right, folks,

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one billion dollars. Here's his eighty snapshot as a writer.

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These are the highlights the dead Zone in eighty three.

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He's uncredited on Lethal Weapon in nineteen eighty seven. He

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pens Innerspace in eighty seven, The Lost Boys in eighty seven,

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Funny Farm Here in eighty eight, Indiana Jones, and The

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Last Crusade in eighty nine, and then Lethal Weapon two

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in eighty nine. Not a bad eighties run. He would

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go on to write Leith Wepon three in ninety two,

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and then The Witches of Eastwick in ninety two. He

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does twenty seven episodes of the Adventures of Briscoe County Junior,

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which I thought was really cool. He penned The Phantom

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in nineteen ninety six, so those are some of the

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highlights there. He did pass away on January twenty sixth

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and two thousand due to a heart failure from a

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rare lung disease. So here's a little quote from Jeffrey Boem.

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I get the thing in my head and see it

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from start to finish. Then I sit down and start

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writing it. I don't have any kind of routine where

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I do notes or outlines or character sketches. I just

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try and live with it in my head until it's

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ready to be spat out. Jeffrey Boem great screenwriter. He

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pops up every once in a while and these huge

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eighties films and I'm like, man, this guy had quite

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the career and we lost him too soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I mean, you just

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listed off an impressive list of credits. As a writer,

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you would hope to maybe two two of those titles

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he has all then Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every time I hear his name, I think of

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the opening credits of Last Crusade. For some reason, Oh yeah,

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I can see it with that backdrop of where do

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they shoot that opening, like in Utah or wherever that was?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with that.

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Speaker 2: Font they use for the credits in Indiana Jones Alascrusda,

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it just kind of pops. I'm like, oh, Jeffrey boem Right,

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he wrote this too, good stuff. What do you have

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for your idies? Snapshot Bill bant So.

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Speaker 1: I went with director George Roy Hill, and George wasn't

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your typical Hollywood director. Born in nineteen twenty one to

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a wealthy Irish Catholic family in Minneapolis, Hill grew up

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loving music, airplanes, and stories, the three passions that would

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later define his life. He studied music at Yale under

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the great composer Paul Hindermith ran the university's drama society,

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and then went off to war. Hill served as a

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marine pilot in both World War Two and the Korean War,

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an experience that fueled his lifelong obsession with flying. After

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the war, he acted on stage in Ireland and on Broadway,

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and then turned to directing, first in live television and theater,

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and eventually in film. His first movie, Period of Adjustment, came

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out in nineteen sixty two, but it was Butch Cassidy

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and The Sundance Kid that made him a household name.

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Hill was the one who assisted on p arring Paul

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that changed both their careers and movie history. He reunited

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with the duo for The Sting, a clever con artist

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caper that won seven Oscars, including Best Director for Hill.

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Hill goes on to direct the hockey comedy classic Slap Shot,

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again with Newman in nineteen seventy seven. By the nineteen eighties,

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George Roy Hill's film career was winding down. His major

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work from that decade was the World According to Garp

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in nineteen eighty two, based on John Irving's novel, starring

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critical a commercial success, earning Oscar nominations for Close and

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in nineteen eighty four, darring Diane Keaton. Though ambitious, it

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received mixed reviews and struggled at the box office, and

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then his final film was This Funny Farm in nineteen

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eighty eight. After stepping away from Hollywood, He'll return to

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Yale to teach drama, sharing his love of storytelling with

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a new generation. He passed away in two thousand and

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two at the age of eighty one, after a long

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battle with Parkinson's I was director George roy Hill.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff. That was excellent nineteen twenty one. Man, that

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guy goes way back, Yeah he does. I did not

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realize he also directed a slap shot that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. One of the actors that was driving up

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the wall when I was watching this brat Sullivan was Brock,

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the one who wants to kill Andy throughout the movie.

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Speaker 2: Sure, what do I.

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Speaker 1: Know him from? And then I was like, oh, yeah,

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he's a slap shot and that's one of my favorite

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lines of the movie. Here you go. I don't think

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it's appropriate to repeat on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Love it all right.

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Speaker 1: So this leads to earliest memories of the movie. Jason

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start us off. What do you remember about Funny Farm

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way back when?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, let's get funny with this film. Yeah, you

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know what, I remember always liking this movie. If I

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caught it on cable. It was one of those Yeah,

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watch it. I'd watch the rest of it, at least

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a few scenes. It was always enjoyable to me as

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a young person. I've always been a fan of Chevy

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Chase and the livery and his physical comedy. There's the

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pratt falling that was mentioned in the What's on the

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a fan of miss Madeline Smith in this. I always

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thought she was very attractive, She is quite adorable. I

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thought she gave a decent comedic performance. I remember a

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few of the highlights, of course, I mean before even

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watching this. I recall the lamb fries, of course, the

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crazed alcoholic Maleman, and I remember enjoying the holiday Christmas

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cheer of the ending. It just always gave me a warm,

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fuzzy feeling inside. I definitely remember the very scenic atmosphere,

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that rural feel, and that's pretty much it in a nutshell.

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a kid, a teenager. I didn't think it was the

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greatest thing ever, but it was just simple feel good

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movie and I got a kick out of the goofy

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characters and site gags. Nothing else really to break down here,

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Bill Band. I didn't think it was outrageously hilarious, but

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always found it amusing. That's all I got for you

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for early memories. What are yours?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a rental for me. I do remember

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seeing the ads in the paper of Chevy Chase with

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the egg on his head, thinking it was a movie

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about farming, and then renting it and it's not even

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about farming whatsoever. But I do remember enjoying it, and

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I watched Funny Farm more at one point than I

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watched Fletch right, just because it was on more. Not

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that I'm saying it's a better movie. It's almost like

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a comfort food kind of film.

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Speaker 2: I just it was on. I like it.

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Speaker 1: It just kind of flows. That's my earliest memory. I'm

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things that just happened to be

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on a lot, and you smile when chevy Chase does

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his thing. He's great, He's very charming, and he's good

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at falling down. Let's just put it that way.

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Speaker 1: I agree, all right, So initial thoughts now of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, an interesting rewatch as an adult, let's just talk

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about that cast real quick. I think chevy Chase is

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wife of Andy Farmer played by Chevy Chase. I thought

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Madeline Smith was fine. I'm watching it now just saying,

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what's the relationship between her and chevy Chase? Is a

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good chemistry, etc. And they were good together. I thought

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they matched well together. It was fine. I wasn't necessarily

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laughing out loud at moments, but I found myself smiling often.

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it amusing once again as an adult. I must say

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the movie looks good to me. Credit to veteran DP

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director of photography Miroslav Underchek Elmer Bernstein. Love him he

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does the score for this film. Love his past work,

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wonderful Resume, The Magnificent Seven, The Great Escape, Animal House, Meatballs,

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Airplane Stripes, Trading Places, Ghostbusters, that's Elmer Bernstein. Now we

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have Funny Farm. It's fine. It's fine. That's kind of

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my overall feeling about this film this far.

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Speaker 1: Did you have any commentary on you You're saying fine.

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I think my word for this is safe. This movie

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feels safe.

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Speaker 2: Bill Bant is one of the last notes I wrote,

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and I was saving it for my conclusion. I wrote safe,

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it feels safe. I wrote that exact same thing. I'm

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glad you said it. Please continue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was trying to think about how I would

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describe this movie. Because I do like it, I do

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enjoy it. I would recommend it. But if I recommend

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to someone and they never watched it, they're not really

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missing anything. But if they watched it, they wouldn't be like,

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why the hell did you recommend this movie? It's just there.

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It's just there. I'm not sitting through it. Going, oh

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my god, what is this going to end? I put

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it on and I chuckle a couple of times, and

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I like the premise. I mean, there's a one scene

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that does stand out that we'll talk about, but outside

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of that, there's nothing groundbreaking about it. It is funny

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when I was researching, how many people like chasing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish a little more could have been on

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the humor. The fish out of Water could have been

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hammered a little bit better. I think the issue is

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they make it seem like this town is full of

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crazed lunatics. It almost has that northern exposure shows with

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to see the quirky characters. We just kind of see

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how Andy and Elizabeth aren't adjusting well to life outside

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the city. Right. Maybe if it got a little more

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into that, had more of those standout characters, I think

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it would be a more fun film. So it just

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plays it safe, wholeheartedly.

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was hoping to get a little more I don't know

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if gritty's the right word, but more based on the

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actual novel itself versus George roy Hill decided to go

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in a different direction with it and ultimately had control

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in the actual direction, of course, and it was on

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the life. That's the way he went with it, and

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it's pretty clear. But yeah, I'm going to get into

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it here. I mean, I actually want to take a

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step back and say that I had an interesting viewing

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experience this time because I was joined by a friend

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of mine, and she's a female friend of mine. She's

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significantly younger, she's a millennial, and she was watching it

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for the very first time. So I was watching it

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wondering in the back of my mind how she was

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seeing it. And of course, as we all know, watching

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a movie with someone else is an entirely different experience

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than just watching it by yourself. So what it did,

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interestingly enough, was make me look at it without my

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nostalgic glasses on. It wasn't as if I was watching

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this with like a contemporary like you in the room,

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Bill Bant, or a buddy of mine that grew up

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during the eighties and we could predict that next scene

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coming on or already start laughing about what was coming

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up next, or smile in that nostalgic moment. It was different.

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It's just different. So I felt I was a little

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more critical upon this viewing as an adult. So Funny

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Farm It's one of those movies just feels like a

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series of hijinks for the first hour or so. There's

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just not much in the way of story or character development.

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Like you were talking about these townsfolk that just fill

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out the scenery and you want to know more, but

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they all are just kind of the one note, one stick,

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one trick ponies. It's mostly like National Lampoon's vacation. Especially

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regarding Chevy Chase's character, Andy Farmer, He's like Clark Griswold

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on a farm, I guess, but it's or in the

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country and he's trying to stay positive all the time

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while everything is falling apart. However, the difference here's the wife,

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Elizabeth Farmer. She clearly isn't happy and he's oblivious to

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it the whole time. And then there's this series of

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light gags, silly gags, the one note characters, these one

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note character we really don't learn anything about these characters,

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like Sheriff Ledbetter, or that Brock character, or the crazed

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mailman who we learn as crumb Peatrie, the antique dealer

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that sells everything related to dead relatives. It's funny on

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the surface, but we don't get to know them at

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all or see a relationship developed between those characters. With

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Andy and Elizabeth Farmer, there's just no bond between them, really,

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so it's just more hyjinks of things going bad while

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now Andy Farmer. The whole idea here, folks, if you

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haven't seen the movie for any reason, is that Andy

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is moving on from the big city as a sports

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writer and he's been given correct me if I'm wrong,

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he's been given in advance by a publisher to write

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his great, the great novel he has within him. Right,

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has he given like a ten thousand dollars advance?

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Speaker 1: Ten thousand?

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Speaker 2: Right? So the idea is that he and his wife

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Elizabeth have looked at this beautiful property out in the

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country and they're going to move there, and he's going

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to write this novel and live out their lives in

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this serene location. So then throughout these hijinks, Andy has

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writer's block. Then he manages to write a terrible first

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draft of his novel. Meanwhile, Elizabeth has inspired to write

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her own children's book, which becomes successful, and then Andy

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betrays her. Then they decide to divorce and sell the

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country house. And then they recruit, slash bribe the townspeople

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to help them sell the house. So the townspeople selfishly

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go overboard with the Christmas holiday costumes, caroling and themes.

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And after the farmer see what the fantasy of this town,

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which is called Redbud out in the country could be,

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they decide to make up and not get divorced, and

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they decide to stay after all this, the problem is

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that they're still hated by the townspeople and all of

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it is a facade. And more importantly, Andy was a

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complete asshole to Elizabeth and she somehow just forgave him overnight.

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I'm getting into my complaints clearly here, but that's like

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the gist of this movie as I'm watching it as

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an adult, Like this is how I'm seeing it. So

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I don't mean to sound overly critical, but I was

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a little surprised of like, this movie is really flawed.

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Everything else I said still holds true, where it's still

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fun and light on its feet at times, but from

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a story structure standpoint, I found it extremely flawed, and

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I did not understand the character's motivations at the end,

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and I found there was just real no connection to

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the town or townsfolk at all, which was concerning to me.

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You know. One thing I wanted to see a little

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more of, too, was really Andy's process, Like, because I'm

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a writer, you're a writer, you want to see what

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a writer goes through. And we just kind of see

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him frustrated with having the writer's block, and we see

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that Elizabeth goes behind his back to write her children's book.

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We're not getting into the process of a writer, in

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the head of a writer and what the a writer

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goes through and trying to develop a novel. It's all

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again just kind of safe and on the surface and

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goofy stuff happens, and that's it, and then it's over

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and I'm going to save more for favorite scenes and complaints.

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But watching it as an adult, it's all right, it's

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all right. I don't know if I need to see

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it again for a while. I feel like it was

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a different experience this time watching it, and if it's

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not terrible, it's just Okay, that's all I got, Bill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I took. My big complaint about is there's definitely

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a disconnect between the farmers and the residents I red bud. Yeah,

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because when they decide to sell the house and then

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they present to the townsfolk, Hey, we need you to

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stop acting like idiots so we can sell our house.

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How did we get to this point from what I understand?

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And he's only had trouble with two of the townsfolk, right,

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It's not like they're walking through the town they're getting

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jeered and made fun of. Nothing really that bad has

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happened to them up to this point. So there's a

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disconnect that I didn't see him, Like, what am I

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missing that they've gotten to this point? All the characters

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are just one off jokes. The sheriff the fact that

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he cannot drive, right, I find that funny definitely. But

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let's bring something else. We meet the brothers Lahn and Dirk,

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who are supposed to be your goofballs. I think of

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a new Heart with Larry, Daryl and Darryl. I'm like, okay,

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let's beat into that a little bit more. Nope, they

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don't really do anything. Yep, crumb, Yeah, you get a

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little bit out of him, and then Brock, who he

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was doing the fishing with, and Brock just always wants

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to kill him. Well, the other two guys on the

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boat weren't any better than what Andy was doing, so

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why is the hate all towards him?

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Speaker 2: Mm hm.

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Speaker 1: I just wish they got into more of what the

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animosity is between the farmers and the residents of Rosebud.

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Play that up for laughs and develop the characters a

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little more. I do like Chase is in Smith's chemistry.

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's some other complaints about their relationship.

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I'll get into the complaint department, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: I just had to go back to it. It's a

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safe movie if you watch it. I think there's nothing

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groundbreaking about it. Kind of weird that Chase is the

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star of the movie but doesn't feel like he's the

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star of the movie. I would almost feel like it's

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more Madeleine Smith's movie.

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Speaker 2: I like that take.

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Speaker 1: Because she's the one that's going through changes throughout the movie. Right, Yeah,

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I think you learn more about her than you do

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Andy in this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I you know again, you said, you know, fish

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out of water. It's clearly a Fish out of Water story,

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and even within the movie, you have Madeline Smith writing

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this children's book which is based on Andy, but in

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the form of a squirrel being a fish out of water.

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It's going from the city to the country life. It's

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a change of pace, scenery, and again the town, the

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type of people. So you mentioned like northern exposure, but

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these are the farmers become strangers in a strange land,

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and I want to see how that affects their relationship.

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And there is a hint in the beginning when they

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first move there that Chevy is urging his wife to

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give this a chance, because he says, not only are

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we here to enjoy the scenery, but we're here to

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be together to work on a relationship. And I was like, oh,

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you've just planted a seed here. Was there something wrong

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with their relationship prior to this or something missing or Okay,

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So now move to the country supposedly is going to

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help them find some peace and serenity and they can

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work on themselves and being together. And we just don't

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get a lot of that. It's just more he's trying

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to write, she's frustrated, he's oblivious to it. Then she

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writes the book, and then he becomes jealous and turns

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to alcohol, and then she wants a divorce, And You're right,

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it's interesting looking at it now, thinking it's more of

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hers journey that we're following. But then it just turns

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all of a sudden in the last twenty minutes where

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everything becomes honky dory, and I'm like, I missed something

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in the just relationship development between the farmers and the

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relationship between the farmers and the townsfolk. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think going into this move that they had

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an issue with their relationship. I think just because it's

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fast paced. He's a sports writer. I'm sure he's not

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around a lot. They go somewhere else where it's slows down,

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so they can actually have a family family right, thinking

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about having kids move in that direction, So I thought

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that was one of the reasons for the move. Also,

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outside of in the events for the book, I didn't

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think they really had issues until they moved and Elizabeth

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realized this is not really the life that she wants initially,

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but that does change by the.

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Speaker 2: End, right, Yeah, because simply nothing's working. There's no phone

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in the house, there's a giant sea snake, and there's

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water snake in the bond, there's a dead body, there's

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bones buried in the garden. I mean, it's just one

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thing after another seems to go wrong, and she's increasingly

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becoming distraught about it, which is understandable. Yeah, I just

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would have liked to seen more a little more sensitivity

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from his character to her in recognizing that. It just

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feels like he's very much kind of self centered or

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self serving and working on his book, Like he's just like,

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I'm here to do this and it's going to be

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this is my dream and nothing's going to get in

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the way of it, while she's struggling the entire time.

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Speaker 1: So it's basically Chevy Chase playing himself off screen.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, So I just I think I

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just laid out all my complaints already, so I jumped

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away ahead anyway. Yeah, we can move on, all right,

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let's move on.

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Speaker 1: Two favorite scenes or moments. Think I'm going first on

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this one, and it's just a laugh out moment for me.

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And then there was like a little follow up joke.

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So Andy and Elizabeth get to the house. They're all excited.

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They're running around and looking at it, and there's a pond,

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and there's ducks, and you might have a few mosquitoes.

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But they're about to go into the front door, and

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he decides that he's going to pick up Elizabeth and

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carry her through the threshold, and he opens the door,

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not knowing that the door is split top half bottom half,

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so it only opens the top half, and drops Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Through the door, which hurts.

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Speaker 1: It's funny at the same time, but I'm like, oh God,

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that must have hurt. So he opens the door, you know,

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make sure that she's okay, and then she says she's

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all right, and then they're talking about the house, and

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then she has this throw away line about I wonder

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how long it takes an ambulance to get here, meaning

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that she's still hurt from the fall. I don't think

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I ever caught that before, because I think the action

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of her him dropping her through just feels natural and

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like I could see that actually happening. How do they

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know the door is not locked to be connected, so

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it all opens a one piece. And then of course

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00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,519
saying that you're okay, okay, But really, when everyone walks

470
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:21,759
away and you're still like, oh Jesus Christ, that really hurt,

471
00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:25,599
might crack my tailbone kind of thing. So it's really brief,

472
00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:29,359
but I found it funny because it felt natural. It

473
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,319
felt real to me. It wasn't like a stage little

474
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,480
bit which happens throughout the movie.

475
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,799
Speaker 2: I laugh out loud every time it happens, and it

476
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,960
caught me off guard a little bit on the rewatch,

477
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,559
even though just at the very last millisecond I knew

478
00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:45,680
it was coming because it just made laugh so much.

479
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,279
As a kid too, I definitely remember that moment, but

480
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,839
it just happened so quickly in the film. It's it's

481
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:54,000
smartly edited. I feel too. You just you forget that

482
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,519
They're like, oh, here got and then he just walks

483
00:24:56,519 --> 00:24:59,559
her and drops her, and it's pretty brutal. It's a

484
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:04,200
great physical bit. And with the clever line from her afterward,

485
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:07,119
and she has some actual good lines in this, it

486
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,119
made me think of a line it happens right after

487
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,160
that when they have to spend the evening in the

488
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,839
house without any of their belongings because the moving truck

489
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,319
got lost and they're sleeping on the floor, and she

490
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,680
says something to the effect of, oh, I know why

491
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,000
they call them hardwood floors, because they're hard wood floors,

492
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,960
so there's some good stuff. She has some good stuff,

493
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,119
but that particular moment dropping her over the doors, it's priceless.

494
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, What do we have next? I think

495
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,680
we both are in agreement with this next scene.

496
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,079
Speaker 2: A thousand percent probably the most memorable scene for a

497
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:44,000
lot of those of you that have seen this film.

498
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,279
This is kind of a go to probably remember this.

499
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,880
It's the lamb fries, that's right. It just so happens

500
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:54,839
that it is the Farmer's anniversary and they're going to

501
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,799
go out on the town for a little bit. So

502
00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:59,799
they decide to go to the local diner restaurant and

503
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,799
just cuts to the waitress who's also the cook. As

504
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,359
it turns out, she's just frying up some land fries

505
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,680
that look like meatballs basically in a pan, and she's

506
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,279
serving them up to Andy Farmer, and they're sitting right

507
00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:17,480
at the actual counter, and they're all dressed to the nines,

508
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:20,160
looking good, but they're enjoying some of the good local

509
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,359
fair and the grub and these lamb fries that look

510
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,640
like meatballs. Well, Andy Farmer's just chowing down on these things.

511
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,359
And there's some locals also at the counter, and they're like, wow,

512
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,839
he's going to town on these things, and just well,

513
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,079
in particular, Elizabeth like, that's your third plate. Pretty impressive,

514
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:40,519
and of course she says, yeah, that's your third plate,

515
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,079
and he's like, well, calling mister lamb Fries. And then

516
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,519
you have the local that's sitting to the right of Andy,

517
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:49,119
I believe, who says, now, that's a man who knows

518
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,359
when he's got something good in his mouth. And then

519
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,240
we quickly discover that he's actually this is Andy about

520
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:02,359
to break the record for eating the most lamb fries,

521
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,720
these little meatballs. And there's an actual chalkboard hanging up

522
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:09,319
behind the waitress and she's got a piece of chalk

523
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,799
and she's changing the tally. She's telling up how many

524
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:16,039
he's eaten. The record I believe is twenty eight, and

525
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,119
he's at like twenty six, twenty seven. Then all of

526
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,880
a sudden, he's, of course, chevy Chase is all proud

527
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,079
of himself as he downs number twenty nine, breaking the record,

528
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,240
and she has to change the number on the chalkboard

529
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:29,440
and he's like wait, wait, wait, like he's got more

530
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,799
in him. And then he eats number thirty and I

531
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:35,279
believe he goes to eat thirty one, and you just

532
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,759
hear the line most folks don't seem to have a

533
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:43,720
taste for testicles no more. You hear Elizabeth goes testicles,

534
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,799
and then you hear the again. The locals say, yes,

535
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,920
ma'am sheep balls. Tell them why yours are so tasty?

536
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:53,440
As he's talking to the waitress, and the waitress responds,

537
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:56,680
the trick is you gotta clip them off way up high,

538
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,240
and she makes this gesture with like ess like doing

539
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,839
the fingers like sit and then of course Andy spits

540
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:06,440
the lambfry slash sheep ball right out of his mouth

541
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,960
and makes for the exit as Elizabeth follows him out

542
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,039
of the diner. It's actually a quick scene. It's memorable.

543
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:15,880
You almost kind of see it coming. It's set up

544
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,000
in a certain way, but it's still funny because of

545
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,839
the performances by both the waitress and the local that's

546
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,680
sitting next to Chevy Chase. And I also like the

547
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,200
fact that it's subtle. But you see the waitress then

548
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,400
erase the thirty one and she puts it back to

549
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,359
thirty because he spit out the last lambfry, and I,

550
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,160
for whatever reason, I don't know if this is like

551
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,640
the Mandela effect, but I thought he was going to

552
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,680
actually throw up in that she erased the entire board

553
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,759
and it went back to twenty eight, the prior record.

554
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,799
But he don't actually see him throw up. So I

555
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,960
was going to save this for additional questions. But do

556
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:52,240
you think he actually throws up or should he retain

557
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:54,440
the record at thirty?

558
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:58,319
Speaker 1: I think he should retain the record, Yeah, I say so.

559
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: I think so.

560
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,119
Speaker 1: I was going to say, if you missed the thirty

561
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,119
one to thirty, I was gonna point that out. But

562
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,960
here again, here they are at the diner, the waitresses

563
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:10,000
being nice, the towns focus being nice. When he breaks

564
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,880
a record, everyone in the restaurant is clapping. So why

565
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,359
later down the road does there seem to be a

566
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:21,200
disconnect between them and the townsfolk. It's not showcased in

567
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:24,480
this scene. It would make more sense if the record

568
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:26,720
was sacred in the fact that Andy broke it, that

569
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:30,240
people are pissed, and then well you're eating land testicles.

570
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,480
But it's a funny, memorable scene.

571
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: I have nothing that you make a really good point

572
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,880
that they all are getting along, because I'm starting to

573
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,079
think of the other scenes where there was real, like

574
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,240
an antagonistic nature between them and the townsfolk. Elizabeth doesn't

575
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:48,519
really have any negative run ins with anyone that go awry.

576
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,759
It's just Chevy Chase and that boat scene with Brock

577
00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:53,279
and the other guy that goes and they're fishing and

578
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:55,200
it goes all to hell. And then we have the

579
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,079
crazed mailman, but we don't even know the man, like

580
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,599
Andy doesn't have a relationship to the man man except

581
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:02,920
that he just keeps blowing by the mailbox, throwing the

582
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,720
mail out the window. We don't even see his face.

583
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:08,119
We don't know why, if or why the mailman would

584
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,839
hate Andy. We know why Andy doesn't like him. But

585
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,440
as for the other townsfolk, they seem to all be

586
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,240
getting along. It doesn't so why do they feel they

587
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,880
all hate them? At the end, I don't know anyway,

588
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,759
going off on a tangent.

589
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,799
Speaker 1: That's okay. So for my next well, it's a big

590
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:26,559
scene because it's almost a third act of the movie,

591
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:30,000
but I do like the premise of it. Unfortunately, it's

592
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,319
gotten to the point where Andy and Elizabeth are talking

593
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:36,240
about getting a divorce so they have to sell the house,

594
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,559
and in their mind order to sell the house. The

595
00:30:39,599 --> 00:30:43,240
townsfolk need to help because they think the townsfolk are

596
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,640
part of the problem of why they're getting divorced. So

597
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,960
they speak at the local town hall meeting and they

598
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,839
want the town to mimic basically Norman Rockwell paintings. So

599
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,799
when prospective buyers come to look at the house, still

600
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,759
think this is the most beautiful place in the world

601
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:01,480
to be is in Rosebud.

602
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: I like that, you said, Rosebud. That's great, little slip there,

603
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,599
little citizen Kane slip Rosemud. So yeah, so Redbud.

604
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,839
Speaker 1: And we do have a couple that's coming to look

605
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,079
at the house, and it just happens to be during

606
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:20,079
the holidays, and the townfolk go all out, Yeah, Christmas,

607
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:24,000
Carol's in the backyard. They take this couple downtown. They

608
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:27,039
have this huge tree. Everybody, of course, is coming up

609
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:31,000
and being super nice. The police chief, who can't drive

610
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,720
all of a sudden, pulls up in a car and

611
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,160
comes out and says, hell, he makes sure he sees

612
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,200
the farmer house twice a day and checks the neighborhood

613
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:43,640
whilst car drives off and runs over a tree. What's

614
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200
funny about this because when they have the town hall meeting.

615
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,279
The farmers do say, hey, if we sell the house,

616
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:52,799
we're going to donate x amount of money to Redbud,

617
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,960
and if anyone does a active kindness in front of us,

618
00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:00,440
we'll give them fifty bucks. So the townsfolk are all

619
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,160
going out, so just a factor walk across town. Everyone's

620
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,759
coming up, Hey, Andy, hey, lisbit that kind of stuff.

621
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,680
And then they give their names so they know they

622
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,880
owe fifty bucks. And it gets to the point where

623
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,279
they go back to the house, their house, and basically

624
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:17,920
the whole town is outside. Kids are making snowballs, snowball fights.

625
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:20,599
You know, we got the singers again. Andy invites them

626
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:24,759
into the house and they're sharing eggnog. So they're going

627
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:27,240
all out, and it's just funny because they're all doing

628
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,319
this just to get fifty bucks per act of kindness,

629
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:33,119
and plus with the money that the town is getting

630
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,640
for them to sell the house. I just find it

631
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,079
very amusing. I kind of forgot that there is a

632
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:40,559
whole Christmas setting to this, and the third act it

633
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:42,799
does kind of remind you like, oh, if I lived

634
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,960
in a small town, this is exactly how I would

635
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000
like it to be during the Christmas time. I did

636
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:49,039
enjoy it, just I did like that third act, how

637
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:51,880
it kind of plays out, and how even Andy and

638
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,480
Elizabeth have to keep up this front. They really love

639
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,319
it here. They love each other, but unfortunately, due to circumstances,

640
00:32:59,359 --> 00:32:59,960
they have to move.

641
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, you know, I'm glad you just covered the

642
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,920
entire third act that now it's interesting. I'm going to

643
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000
jump to a complaint here again, mister complaints here. Sorry, folks,

644
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:13,880
that's okay. This entire sequence doesn't actually really kick off

645
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,920
until an hour and twenty one minutes into the film.

646
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,359
There's only twenty minutes remaining in the entire movie, and

647
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:25,519
this is my favorite part. It feels like this is

648
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,359
when the movie really starts to kick into high gear.

649
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,039
All the high jinks that ensued prior to this were

650
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,440
fun and light and I get it, and it creates

651
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,400
tension and causes obstacles for our protagonists. But because of

652
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,240
the lack of kind of relationship development, either between the

653
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,160
farmers or with the townsfolk, it was just high jinks.

654
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,759
But now this is like an interesting problem where they

655
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:51,559
do have to directly deal with all of the townsfolk,

656
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,880
almost all at once. Where they're doing this performative bit

657
00:33:55,319 --> 00:34:00,640
embracing this Norman Rockwell lifestyle, and it's wonderful. I love

658
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:05,200
the holiday spirit, the Christmas spirit, the feel of this

659
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:07,440
whole thing. Because I grew up in a small town.

660
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:09,320
I always wanted it to be that way. It did

661
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,800
feel that way in moments, for sure, and I fall

662
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,760
in love with it. And every time I think of

663
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,599
this particular film, Funny Farm, I will think of the

664
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,559
lamb fry scene, and I will think of this entire ending,

665
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,119
and I always feel like it's a bigger part of

666
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:27,039
the movie, and it really isn't. It's the very end,

667
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,960
but it's so great, and it's very funny because all

668
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,119
these townsfolk, they just want the farmer's money. They're just

669
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,519
doing it for the extra fifty bucks. One scene in

670
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:39,679
particular I want to call out has to do with

671
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,599
our crazed alcoholic mailman. I assume he's an alcoholic. The

672
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,280
sheriff led better. He does mention that the reason why

673
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,519
the mailman is so angry by the time he reaches

674
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,679
the farmer's household in Red Bud is that he's been

675
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,280
drinking during his whole the mail route, and that he's

676
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,280
good and saucy by the time he gets there and

677
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,119
just honre and so he doesn't even stop to deliver

678
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:03,880
the mail. He just throws the mail out of the

679
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,880
truck window and keeps driving off, and you kind of

680
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,480
hear his cackle fading off in the distance. And thus

681
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:13,039
you have Andy standing there next to the mailbox, just

682
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:14,920
left to pick up the mail off the ground. So

683
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,360
that's a stick that runs throughout the movie. It's a

684
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,199
runner throughout the movie and now here because they've made

685
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,639
this proposal. They're going to pay everyone fifty bucks if

686
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,199
they make an extra effort to be a traditional small town,

687
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:30,760
the perfect small town in this setting of the Christmas

688
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,360
and feeling all the holidays here while the farmers are

689
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,760
entertaining these prospective buyers of their house and they're all

690
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,800
sitting inside. You see this is great because you see

691
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,159
Andy hear the backfire from the truck approaching the mailman's truck,

692
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,599
and he recognizes it right away and he's like, oh no,

693
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:50,360
this is going to ruin the whole ruse. If the

694
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,559
mailman comes in or just drives by and is rude

695
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,760
and throwing the mail out the window, it's just going

696
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,639
to show a crack in this whole idea, and he

697
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:01,480
doesn't want these buyers to see this. But then knock

698
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:04,119
on the door, ring the door, and Anni Farmer goes

699
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:08,599
to the door, and there's the mailman, crumb Petree, looking

700
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,719
pretty good, cleaned up. He's wearing his coat, his scarf,

701
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,039
his hat. I think he's got even like a mailman

702
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:18,000
insigny on his coat. And he's personally brought the mail

703
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,840
to the farmers and steps in and he says, oh,

704
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,039
and by the way, missus Farmer, Missus Petrie, my wife

705
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,280
wanted to give you this. This is her traditional rumnut

706
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,760
plum raisin cake of the season. And then he's introduced

707
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,039
to I think it's the Culbertsons who are these prospective buyers.

708
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:38,199
By the way, there's recognizable character actors throughout this, and

709
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,360
I think it's Gilpin is his name. I can't remember

710
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,480
that his first name is one of the culbert sins here,

711
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:46,480
but another recognizable actor in this, and the crumb Peatree

712
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,239
is introduced to them, and now he's all put together

713
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,199
and he seems to be the nicest guy ever and

714
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,360
sober on top of it, and mentions, oh, he's going

715
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,679
to be really sorry to see the farmers go, and

716
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,280
as immediately as he says that, oh, it'll be really

717
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,159
sorry to see the farmers go, he lets out the

718
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:07,159
most amazing cackle and I won't even try to impersonate it,

719
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,239
but I want to give a shout out to Kevin Conway,

720
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,559
who plays Crumb Petrieck, because I love that cackle. And

721
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:15,639
then he even pours on a little bit extra here

722
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:17,400
and says, oh, you know what, later on, I'm just

723
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,440
going to go do some ice fishing, you know. By

724
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,519
the way he's looking at the buyers, he says, you know,

725
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:24,719
I'm gonna pull out some nice sized pike out there

726
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,920
ice fishing, pouring it on thick, just portraying this as

727
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,360
the perfect small town, and then ends up leaving and

728
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,760
to make sure to look at Andy and say, hey,

729
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,639
you're going to be paying me a little extra, you know.

730
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:38,880
And so I love that because one of the funny

731
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,679
things throughout it is that runner with the mailman blazing

732
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,079
by the mailbox and throwing the mail out, and now

733
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:47,000
we see him all put together, but he still does

734
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:48,920
the cackle, and we see him do it in person.

735
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,039
It's great. So I found that very amusing. Also, yeah,

736
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:53,840
I just wanted to back you up on the fact

737
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,280
that when all the krollers go inside the house and

738
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,440
they're all still singing, that they all make that point

739
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:03,599
to say their full names one by one as they're

740
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,480
exiting to Andy, to make sure he remembers that they

741
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,079
are all individually owed fifty dollars. It's great.

742
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say of all the characters, the mailman

743
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,760
does pay off for me because you are interested. In

744
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,800
the beginning, you never see him. You just see the

745
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,039
cars go all by, and you just see the mail

746
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:27,360
fly and a cackle, and and he becomes obsessed with

747
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:29,880
trying to get him to stop. At one point tries

748
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,199
to roll a boulder into his mail truck. So then

749
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,280
when he finally comes, there's that comedic tension because you're like, oh,

750
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:41,039
is he going to screw this up just because he

751
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:42,960
hates the farmers or we don't even know if he

752
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,920
hates the farmers, he just hates the fact he's got

753
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,840
to drive out there for the mail, so you don't

754
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,320
know what's going to happen. The fact that he's so kind,

755
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,320
you're like, oh, okay, but he has to say something

756
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,360
at the end, like I'm only doing this for the

757
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,000
fifty bucks. The son of a Bitch. I'm out, Yeah,

758
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,199
it does work for me. I think it's the one

759
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:06,760
character outside of Andrew Elizabeth that you kind of get to.

760
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,920
I wouldn't say no a little bit, but I think

761
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,480
the character overall pays off.

762
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: I agree you see at least there's a change in

763
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,880
the character. He almost has a mini arc, if you will,

764
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,880
like a mini mini mini arc. But still it's something.

765
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,519
So I'm glad you highlighted the whole third act, if

766
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:26,480
you will, because it's a lot of fun and that's

767
00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:29,159
really the highlight of the movie for me. There is

768
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:30,719
some fun in this. I don't want to be mister

769
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,519
Debbie Dunner either. There is definitely a movie that maybe

770
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:35,800
you just look back on and it's funnier when you

771
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,599
quote it, almost funnier than when you're watching it.

772
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: Okay, So that takes us to Swiss Cheese and Complaints Apartment,

773
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,760
and what don't we call it.

774
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: Swiss Cheese because although this movie is delicious, it does

775
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,320
have burnt manuscript holes.

776
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Yes, and if it doesn't have those burnt manuscript holes,

777
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,159
we just file the complaint with the Complaints Apartment. So, Jason,

778
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:00,000
do you have anything left for Swiss cheese or complaint.

779
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,039
Speaker 2: I know, right, Well, let's go back to you briefly

780
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,840
touched on this the title itself. How do we feel

781
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,400
about the title? Funny farm? Terrible, not great? No, it

782
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,639
implies either they're actually living on a farm with crazy

783
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:18,199
things happening, which is not true, or that it's a

784
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,679
mental asylum with crazy people running around. And yeah, we

785
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,400
have some goofy townspeople, but it's not a mental asylum,

786
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,559
and we get that. Of course, their last names are

787
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:34,440
they're the farmers, are protagonists, are protagonist couple, But still

788
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:36,920
it just doesn't ring true the title.

789
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: No, And even if you look at either of the posters,

790
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,320
there's the one poster where Chivi Chase has an egg

791
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,679
on his head, nothing like that happens in the movie,

792
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,239
and the other one he's in a tractor with the dog.

793
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:51,119
At least we have a dog at some point, very briefly.

794
00:40:51,159 --> 00:40:52,920
The first one he buys runs off, which is kind

795
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,519
of funny, but it's very misleading. I don't know what

796
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:57,440
I would call it, because I'm always terrible when it

797
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,119
comes to titles, but I definitely would not have come

798
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:00,880
up with plenty farm.

799
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what do you have.

800
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my complaint is Andy's treatment of the movers. Okay,

801
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,239
Andy gives them a map of how to get to

802
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:16,639
the house, so they get lost. So Andy and Elizabeth

803
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,199
have to sleep on the floor one night. Sound like

804
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,880
it's been a couple of days. It's literally one day.

805
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,440
Like my wife and I moved out to California, we

806
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,639
didn't have furniture for four days, but we knew that

807
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,679
going in. Yeah, so I'm like, sleep on the floor

808
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,320
for one night is not going to kill you. And

809
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,679
when they show up, Andy is laying into them hard.

810
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:40,440
Oh yeah, refund blah blah blah blah, And I'm like, dude,

811
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:44,199
at least your stuff is there. I'm sure there's tons

812
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:47,840
of horror stories about movers, and I've read a lot

813
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,760
about it, Like when you're moving and you're researching, that

814
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,400
is a scary thing. There's so many times where you

815
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,920
hear stories about movers who will bring your stuff and say, well,

816
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,679
now you have to pay this charge in order to

817
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,719
get for us to start on loading your stuff. So

818
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,719
the fact that they showed up and started unloading right away,

819
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,400
granted it was going into the lake out back.

820
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: I was going to say, another actual fun moment, let's

821
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,679
give credit to that is. I love that moment when

822
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,440
that character one of the movers, is like, immediately they're

823
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:22,239
unloading the truck after you have Andy like running alongside

824
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,000
the truck as it's pulling in, berating them, and he

825
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:30,239
just goes straight for like the office chair walks right

826
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,719
and Andy's like, okay, finally you're unloading. You're gonna move

827
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,960
this stuff into our house. And the guy just walks

828
00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:38,239
right by Andy with the chair in hand and throws

829
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,360
it directly into the lake. Really funny.

830
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: You're just excited that they showed up and just be like,

831
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:45,719
oh right, I'd be more curious, like you know what happened?

832
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,000
Are you?

833
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, what happened to you? Yeah?

834
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the way he came into them, like, no,

835
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:54,079
I felt the movers did the right thing. I think

836
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:55,639
I would have threw his chair in the lake too.

837
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,440
I would give a crap at that point.

838
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's funny. There's a funny line earlier than that,

839
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,480
when you see the movers are stuck in the truck overnight.

840
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,679
They have to basically sleep outside. They're in the truck technically,

841
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,880
but one of them says to the other is something

842
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,159
about you need to hold onto that map because I'm

843
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:15,199
gonna need it as evidence as to a murder or

844
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,199
something along the way. He's like, yeah, why, He's like,

845
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:18,519
because I'm going to kill the son of a bitch

846
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:22,400
true that map. It's pretty fun anyway, I have some

847
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:26,880
character issues, motivation issues. There's a couple scenes maybe that'll

848
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,159
explain this. The anniversary evening for the farmers. We know

849
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:34,440
the lampfry scene right, very amusing, very funny, memorable. But

850
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,119
then they move on to a bungalow where they're going

851
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:41,039
to spend the evening in just a romantic little bungalow,

852
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,079
and the fireplace is there. It's a beautiful setting here.

853
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:49,920
And then this is where Andy just turns extremely selfish.

854
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,000
It's the evening of their anniversary, and his gift to

855
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:55,840
Elizabeth is the fact that he finally finished the first

856
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,679
draft this manuscript of his great novel, which I think

857
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,800
is it called The Big Heist. It sounds right, it

858
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,199
was something like that he called it. It's basically The

859
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:08,199
Ocean's Eleven Ideas, and he forces Elizabeth to read the

860
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,159
entire draft there that night in front of him, and

861
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:14,280
it's just kind of like what are you doing? Man?

862
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,400
And I get there's supposed to be some comedy to this, right,

863
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,360
it's a funny thing. But he's just so oblivious to

864
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,760
taking care of It's their anniversary, he should be taking

865
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,280
care of her and thinking about her needs. But he

866
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,639
forces her to read the draft and then that goes

867
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:31,280
to hell because she hates it, and then he throws

868
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,679
it into the fireplace and then has to try to

869
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,159
save it anyway. After this, then, of course she is

870
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,119
It's revealed that she's been working on her own book,

871
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:45,519
a children's book, and has completed it, has turned it

872
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:48,199
into a publisher, and has received five thousand dollars in

873
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,360
a contract to have it published, all these things, and

874
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,800
this sets Andy off. He becomes a jealous jerk, and

875
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,119
he turns into a drunk and then ends up betraying

876
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,480
her and stealing her manuscript and handing it over to

877
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:04,199
his publisher as if it were his own. And it's

878
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,000
like he really turns into a prick, and that makes

879
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:09,880
him very unlikable. And what I don't understand Bill, then

880
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,639
is at the end, when we have our beautiful scenic

881
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,960
Christmas seasonal third act, she seems to make a quick

882
00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:22,559
turnaround and I don't understand why he treated her very poorly.

883
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:25,320
She wants a divorce. They're going to the lawyer, they're

884
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,920
trying to get a divorce, and they're selling the house.

885
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:32,400
But now because everything looks on the surface so perfect,

886
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:36,280
because they've paid off the townsfolk, it kind of gives

887
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,559
them this feeling of, oh, now we realize we're in

888
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:43,280
the right place, we made the right move. This is

889
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,119
so beautiful here and the people are so great. And

890
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:49,719
now she's back in love with Andy. She's forgiven him.

891
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,239
It seems real quick to me, And I had a big,

892
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,400
big complaint with that. It just made no sense to me.

893
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really didn't like Andy's jealousy towards Elizabeth with

894
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,360
the children's book, and when he says to her, you

895
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,159
know nothing about writing, but then says she's an English teacher.

896
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:09,599
She seems pretty qualified. Just with that alone, right, And

897
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:16,159
just because she doesn't like it doesn't mean it's finished, right, Yeah, absolutely,

898
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,320
it's just the first draft. Yeah, so just ask what's

899
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,079
wrong and see what he needs to fix. But he

900
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:25,360
just goes on this whole ti rate. And then with

901
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,079
the children's book, he gets super upset about that that

902
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,519
didn't work for me. I think at least he comes

903
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:36,119
to realize he made that mistake. I think with a

904
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:41,719
Elizabeth because that she didn't like living out there, but

905
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,760
then it inspired her to write that book and maybe

906
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:51,199
many books in the future. She learns to forgive Andy

907
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,280
for it. But yeah, we don't see it. It just

908
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,039
seems very abrupt because it almost sounds like they don't

909
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:57,679
want to get divorced because I had to wait till

910
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,920
July and it costs a lot of money because they

911
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,880
don't love each other. And Andy realizes what a dumbass

912
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,559
he was, which he kind of emits at one point,

913
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:09,719
at least when he has to sleep on the floor

914
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,320
and he says, I basically fuck everything up, right.

915
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,639
Speaker 2: That's there's a moment.

916
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,159
Speaker 1: And I think that's why people actually like Chase's performance

917
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:19,880
in this because it's the one time he almost humanizes

918
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,840
himself a little bit.

919
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 2: I see that, Okay, I like that. I like that. Now.

920
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,800
Just going back I think to the overall complaint is

921
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,440
the fact that this entire holiday scene, this Christmas scene,

922
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:32,920
doesn't start until an hour and twenty minutes into the film,

923
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,280
and it's only an hour and forty minutes forty one

924
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,239
minutes long, so I do appreciate the run time. By

925
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,559
the way, However, structurally I would have liked to see

926
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,719
and I don't mean to rewrite the movie, but I

927
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,440
just would have appreciated less high jinks in the beginning,

928
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,079
maybe only twenty minutes or so, let's get to really

929
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:54,239
meet some of these townsfolk. But it's very interesting to

930
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,840
me the idea of going to a town where then

931
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,239
all the people that live there are faking it, like

932
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,119
they're really putting on a show, so everything so I

933
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,599
like that idea. There's something about pretending and that everything

934
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:10,239
being on the surface level everything looks great, but then

935
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,400
finding out that there's more underneath, and that could relate

936
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,960
to also the farmer's relationship when they're moving out there,

937
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,960
pretending as if now we've changed locations and we're in

938
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,639
this beautiful place, everything's going to be great. I will

939
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:26,639
be inspired to write the perfect book, and she's going

940
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:28,320
to be the perfect wife, and we're going to have

941
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,639
the most romantic build a family out here, when that's

942
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,760
just not the reality. The reality is life is hard

943
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,320
no matter where you are, and people are quirky and

944
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,360
weird and goofy, and shit happens and we all have

945
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,639
to find a way to get along and prosper together. Right,

946
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,360
So I would have liked to kind of seen that

947
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,760
theme play out, not just in the last twenty minutes,

948
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,800
but throughout three quarters of the movie.

949
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be kind of funny if the town

950
00:48:56,519 --> 00:49:00,760
really portrayed this ideal setting and the longer they live

951
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,159
there they start seeing the cracks and just tell everybody

952
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,320
is weird and quirky.

953
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:07,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, for sure. The scene that plays out on

954
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:10,480
the boat with the fish hook in the neck and

955
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:13,079
pulling it just was really over the top for me.

956
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,360
It gets like really gaggy, and it's just kind of

957
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,719
I didn't care for that scene that jumped.

958
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,079
Speaker 1: That was a little cringe for me. Yeah, that whole

959
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:21,880
scene doesn't work.

960
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: When he's fishing in his own lake behind their beautiful

961
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,559
home and he pulls that giant water snake out, that's

962
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,920
goofy and silly because you can tell it's like a

963
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,599
giant rubber thing that probably comes fright out, but it's

964
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:34,599
still a little bit of a surprise, And it's kind

965
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:36,679
of funny because he's a great physical comedian in the

966
00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:40,079
way he reacts to it. It works in that scenario.

967
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,360
But the boat, You're right.

968
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: That's the thing. The snake scenario is plausible. You're fishing

969
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,039
in the lake. There's sometimes snakes and lakes. Yeah, But

970
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:53,719
here it is. You go downtown with your wife. These

971
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,679
guys ask you to go on a fishing trip. It's

972
00:49:55,679 --> 00:49:57,920
not a twenty minute trip. Your wife's going to come

973
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,639
back from the store and go where the hell's my

974
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,360
husband and he's gonna be fishing for the next three

975
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,679
hours or two hours? Why would you agree to go

976
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:05,119
on the boat?

977
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

978
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: It's just an unplausible scenario. So the rest of it

979
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:10,840
just doesn't work for Maison Fountain to find it very funny.

980
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:12,199
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna stop there.

981
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: Time to move on to Hey, it's that actor? All right?

982
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:19,400
So this segment we spotlight a character actor you have

983
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,519
seen in many other films, an actor making their big

984
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,440
screen debut, or an actor that makes an un ready

985
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:28,400
to cameo. It's Hey, it's an actor. So who do

986
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,679
we choose this week? Because there are a lot of

987
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,400
choices in this one. I was surprised, Yeah, no kidding.

988
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: Every other actor in this is a Hey it's that

989
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,280
actor that's recognizable you're like, Wow, who is he or

990
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:39,880
she from?

991
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,079
Speaker 1: What?

992
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: What is that movie that they were in? It's great?

993
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:46,119
So this week we've chosen for our Hey, it's that actor,

994
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,559
Mike Star, Mike Starr. He plays one of the movers,

995
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,880
and funny enough, the other mover actor actually is a

996
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,280
hey it's that actor too. As soon as I saw him, like, hey,

997
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,719
isn't he the guy driving the black Jack war and speed?

998
00:50:59,159 --> 00:50:59,800
Isn't that that guy?

999
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:00,599
Speaker 1: Yeah? It is?

1000
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:05,159
Speaker 2: Yes, Goodwe totally so. But Mike Starr is great, immediately

1001
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:09,639
recognizable American character actor from New York City, standing tall

1002
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:13,519
at six three and a half. Known for playing bullying characters,

1003
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,159
he worked as a bouncer and bartender before landing a

1004
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:21,679
small part in the film Cruising in nineteen eighty. As

1005
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,519
it goes back to nineteen eighty, he's got two hundred

1006
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:27,559
and forty five credits on IMDb. So yes, Mike Starr

1007
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,719
was in Cruising in nineteen eighty. Then he was in

1008
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,159
the Natural in eighty four. He's in the Money Pit

1009
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,719
in eighty six, looking forward to doing that on this podcast.

1010
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:36,760
He was in a couple episodes of Crime Story in

1011
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,480
eighty seven. The film Who's That Girl? With Madonna in

1012
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:42,559
eighty seven, Funny Farm in eighty eight, and Punchline in

1013
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:45,840
eighty eight, Lean On Me in eighty nine, Uncle Buck

1014
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:50,199
as a character called Pooter the Clown in eighty nine,

1015
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:52,840
and then he is briefly featured in Born on the

1016
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,360
Fourth of July, also in eighty nine. So here's some

1017
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,800
highlights of his After the eighties. He was in Blue Steel,

1018
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:03,800
good Fellas as character Frenchy Miller's crossing Billy Bathgate, free

1019
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,800
Jack the Bodyguard, the Hotsucker Proxy, and he has a

1020
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,239
great role in ed Wood. That's one film you definitely

1021
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,480
would recognize him from. But the film I always associate

1022
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:19,360
him with is Dumb and Dumber. That's what I think of. First,

1023
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,960
he plays the character Joe Medalino, and I believe the

1024
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,559
big scene with him and Jim Carrey when he's choking

1025
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:30,159
on the hot peppers initially when they're at the diner restaurant,

1026
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,360
and then Carrie accidentally feeds him the poison pills as

1027
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,800
that's what happens, and then he's like foaming at the mouth.

1028
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: Mike Stars, Oh, I remember the together the most annoying

1029
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,519
sound in the world.

1030
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. Yeah, So Mike Starr great, done it.

1031
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:52,400
He does a ton of TV episodes, makes appearances on

1032
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,599
a variety of soap opera's Funny Enough and still working.

1033
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,880
Has some upcoming projects. Love Mike stars, great character actor.

1034
00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. When you were listing off his credits,

1035
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,800
I was like, oh, yep, I remember what seeing he said,

1036
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,679
Oh yep, I could see it as clear as today.

1037
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,400
If you asked me before to name I'm like, I

1038
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,519
can't name anything outside Dumb and Dumber. But as soon

1039
00:53:11,519 --> 00:53:12,960
as you're saying the credits, I'm like, oh, yeah, I

1040
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,239
remember what's seen yous in that movie. So yeah, definitely

1041
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,400
an excellent choice for Hey, it's that actor.

1042
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:19,199
Speaker 2: Just gonna give it a couple of shout outs to

1043
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,159
some other Hey it's that actors, because I was trying

1044
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:23,719
to remember this gentleman's name. He plays one of the Culbertson's,

1045
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,719
the prospective buyers of the Farmer's house. That was Jack Gilpin,

1046
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:31,880
very recognizable. I believe it's Alice Drummond who plays Ethel

1047
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:38,039
Dingis or Dingus who has the antique store. She's very recognizable. Yep,

1048
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:41,320
there you go. There's more that I'm missing here. Oh

1049
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,400
who is it that plays the lawyer. He was very

1050
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,800
recognizable to Michael.

1051
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's thinking of the publisher guy, Michael Sinclair.

1052
00:53:49,039 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah he too, Yeah sure, yeah, anyway, he watched

1053
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,519
the movie a lot of recognizable faces. So I apologize

1054
00:53:55,559 --> 00:53:57,960
for not naming all the actors here, but we got

1055
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,599
to move along.

1056
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: Yep, many, many all right, Time to move on to

1057
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,920
facts and trivia. What are some facts of trivia we

1058
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,599
have about Funny Farm.

1059
00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: The film was mostly shot in southeastern Vermont, including the

1060
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:15,360
towns of Windsor, Vermont and Townshend, Vermont, and they were

1061
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,079
using locals as extras. This is from IMDb. By the way,

1062
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,880
the Townshend Common, the Townshend Common area today has an

1063
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,719
unusual souvenir from the production of Funny Farm, because to

1064
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,519
make the trees on the common look as if it

1065
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:34,639
was mid autumn, the film crew dyed the leaves, which

1066
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,960
killed all the trees except for one in the middle

1067
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,599
of the common. Today, the ring of newly planted trees

1068
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:44,639
around the edge of the common are significantly shorter than

1069
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:47,960
the much larger one that survived the filming of Funny Farm.

1070
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:53,559
Speaker 1: Whoops, yeah right, oops, see so this was interesting. You know,

1071
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:56,039
who is supposed to be in this movie. Jason tell

1072
00:54:56,039 --> 00:55:00,639
me Bill band Sarah Michelle Geller was he supposed to

1073
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:04,639
play one of Elizabeth's students in an early scene in

1074
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:05,119
the movie.

1075
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:08,159
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well that would make sense because I'm like

1076
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,960
she had been very young at that time. Yea.

1077
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: So unfortunately that scene was to lead it and I

1078
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,719
couldn't find it anywhere. M Yeah, I think that would

1079
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,000
have been one of her first credits.

1080
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding.

1081
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:21,639
Speaker 1: Things turned out okay for her, she did.

1082
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1083
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:28,159
Speaker 1: So Ivy's Cafe where Andy eats lamb fries was not

1084
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,159
in fact an actual restaurant. It was a set built

1085
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:34,920
in Townsend, Vermont, specifically for the film, and was destroyed

1086
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,239
after filming goes over. The site of the set is

1087
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,960
now occupied by residential homes which are across the street

1088
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,159
from the gazebo in Townshend where Andy is seen running

1089
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:47,519
to the softball game while Elizabeth goes antique shopping.

1090
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 2: This Funny Farm was the first of three consecutive movie

1091
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,239
adaptations of Jay Cronley novels in three consecutive years. The

1092
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,320
subsequent adaptations were Let It Ride in eighty nine, one

1093
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,360
of my cult favorites, and another cult favorite quick Change

1094
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:07,400
in nineteen ninety. We'll have to save that one for

1095
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,320
the All Nineties Movies podcast. Yes, love both those movies.

1096
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,840
I'm a big fan of Let It Rite.

1097
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:14,639
Speaker 1: Yes, we know that one for sure.

1098
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,559
Speaker 2: It was a rough year at the box office for

1099
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:21,599
mister Chevy Chase. So yeah, this was one of two

1100
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:25,360
nineteen eighty eight movies starring Chase. The other was Caddyshack two.

1101
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,239
I guess they're saying, well, Funny Farm was a minor hit. Well,

1102
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,039
Caddyshak two was a box office bomb, but Chase also

1103
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:35,880
cameoed in the box office bomb The Couch Trip of

1104
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,519
the same year in eighty eight.

1105
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:41,599
Speaker 1: Ooh, yeah, tough year for him. So the kid who

1106
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:44,000
steals the street sign at the beginning of the movie

1107
00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:47,320
was an extra from Windsor High School, where a fair

1108
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,880
amount of the filming takes place. He had not becoming

1109
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:50,599
a local cop.

1110
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had that too, that's funny. Last one I

1111
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:59,360
got here real quick bill is the four thousand dollars

1112
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:04,599
bill for Claude Musselman's funeral. That's the the casket with

1113
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:07,400
the bones that was dug up in the farmer's backyard.

1114
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,800
That was claud Musselman in there. The four thousand dollars

1115
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,440
bill for Claude Musselman's funeral would equate to a little

1116
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,599
over eleven thousand dollars in twenty twenty five. Ouch, yeah,

1117
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,159
chuck a change, all right.

1118
00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: Moving on to box office, so, Funny Farm was released

1119
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,320
on June third, nineteen eighty eight, in one thousand, five

1120
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,440
hundred and fifty seven theaters with an estimated budget of

1121
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:33,559
nineteen million. Bunny Farm pulled in twenty five point five

1122
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:37,840
million domestically. The film debuted number four at the box office,

1123
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,440
behind Big, which also opened that week in less theaters,

1124
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,719
and Funny Farm would only last another three weeks in

1125
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,760
the top ten and would be the thirty ninth highest

1126
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,320
grossing movie of nineteen eighty eight, just ahead of Alien Nation,

1127
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:54,000
which we covered back in season four.

1128
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:56,559
Speaker 2: Yeah going against Big, that's tough.

1129
00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knew, right? Moving on to reviews. When growing

1130
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,159
up in the eighties, we would watch at the movies

1131
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:05,840
with Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert to hear the reviews

1132
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,960
and watch clips of upcoming movies. Their review of Funny

1133
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,519
Farm was unanimous two thumbs up. Ebert described the film

1134
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:17,480
as one of the year's Funniest Movies, while Ciskel called

1135
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,119
it the best chase film his made. Together, Ciskel and

1136
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:24,960
Ebert praised the film for its abundance of laugh out

1137
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:31,400
loud moments, sharp direction, striking cinematography, and precise editing to

1138
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,639
consistently end scenes at the perfect moment.

1139
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:39,559
Speaker 2: Wow, no kidding, You know it's funny Bilt because I

1140
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:42,440
left out one piece of trivia here and I'll just

1141
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:46,480
put it appropriately in this segment. Gene Siskel said he

1142
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:50,199
received the most complaints from Ciskel and Ebert viewers for

1143
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:55,960
recommending this film. So the viewers the audience did not

1144
00:58:56,039 --> 00:58:59,360
agree with Ciskel and Ebert's very positive outlook on this film.

1145
00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: So Rotten Tomatoes gives it a Tomato Meter score of

1146
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,400
sixty four percent, with the Popcorn Meter score of fifty

1147
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,519
one percent, and also has an IMDb rating of six

1148
00:59:10,599 --> 00:59:14,679
point two. So that takes us to additional thoughts and questions.

1149
00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:16,920
What are some additional thoughts and questions you have about

1150
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:17,559
Funny Farm?

1151
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:20,079
Speaker 2: Did you have a question right off the.

1152
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:23,039
Speaker 1: Top, Jason, what is the weirdest thing you've ever eaten?

1153
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,639
That is great?

1154
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I wish I could remember I was on

1155
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,719
a cruise ship and we went to a restaurer was

1156
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,000
a great like themed restaurant. I want to say. It

1157
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:40,159
had an Alison Wonderland theme. And there were some really

1158
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:43,880
strange dishes they were serving and I can't think of them.

1159
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,719
It was just interesting recipes and you wouldn't think to

1160
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,280
put this with that, but it paired nicely and it

1161
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,119
was very tasty. And now I can't think of any

1162
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:54,079
of those items. I just I can tell you this much.

1163
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:57,199
I'll never forget the first time I tried octopus a

1164
00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:00,360
sushi restaurant. I know that's not weird for a lot

1165
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,960
of people, but it was for me because I had

1166
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,159
never had sushi and this was my first time ever.

1167
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:06,000
And this was in Miami, and I remember Craig Rose

1168
01:00:06,039 --> 01:00:08,199
being there and he's like, oh, yeah, I try this

1169
01:00:08,239 --> 01:00:10,880
octopus and I'm chewing on a tentacle with the suckers

1170
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,199
on it, and I'm like, this is not for me.

1171
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,000
This is definitely not for me. I wasn't going to

1172
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:19,920
break any record eating the most amount of octopus in

1173
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,960
one sitting. However, Yeah, I'll have to think about that

1174
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,400
and see if I can come up with something else.

1175
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,800
But the weirdest strangest thing I've ever eaten. What do

1176
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:30,360
you have for this?

1177
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:33,079
Speaker 1: I think my number one would be jellyfish?

1178
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, just because the.

1179
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,039
Speaker 1: Connotation of jellyfish is stinging and stuff like that. Where

1180
01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:42,119
did you have jellyfish in Hong Kong? Okay?

1181
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:43,199
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1182
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: And it's very chewy and not much flavor to be honest,

1183
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:52,119
so I don't think you have to try. But yeah,

1184
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:54,400
when they put it at our table, I was the

1185
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,519
only one that would try it. I'm like, what's the

1186
01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:57,400
worst it going to happen?

1187
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:01,079
Speaker 2: That just makes me think of when you hear the

1188
01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:03,880
nightmare stories about is it puffer fish? Oh?

1189
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the.

1190
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:09,079
Speaker 2: Very poisonous if you get the wrong Yeah.

1191
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: Just looks like a giant piece of gelatine. Just but yeah,

1192
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,920
I was super chewy. Second, I would go with cow's tongue. Okay,

1193
01:01:17,199 --> 01:01:19,719
I can't remember where I had that at, but we

1194
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:21,119
were at there was a bunch of us and we

1195
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:23,599
were at a deli and they were serving it and

1196
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,840
everyone was daring each other to try it, and I'm like,

1197
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:26,559
I'll try it.

1198
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:30,599
Speaker 2: Actually wasn't bad. There you go, tastes like chicken. Just kidding.

1199
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: No, Well, the third thing people say taste like chicken

1200
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,920
A lot alligator of course. H down in South Florida,

1201
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,559
I would say that's very close to chicken. So maybe

1202
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:44,679
people would be like, no, dude, you actually ate chicken.

1203
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:46,760
They just said it was alligator, But no, I think

1204
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,480
it was alligator.

1205
01:01:47,519 --> 01:01:50,039
Speaker 2: This was my mom. That would be my big three

1206
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:54,840
Great stuff. Man, Bill Bant, you're a writer. Sometimes I'm

1207
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,719
gonna ask maybe a few questions regarding this, and you're

1208
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,400
you're writing relationship with your wife, Hillary the Lovely Hillary Band.

1209
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,840
Have you ever had her read something of yours to

1210
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,320
give you feedback and how have you reacted to this feedback?

1211
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,039
Have you ever had to react to perhaps negative feedback

1212
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:18,280
as Andy Farmer has to deal with from Elizabeth in

1213
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:18,840
this film.

1214
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,719
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question. There's definitely some things I've

1215
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,119
given her to read. I don't think she's ever given

1216
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:29,519
like pure negative feedback like Elizabeth did. But yeah, sometimes

1217
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:35,800
she'll have questions and I'll have to answer or constructive criticism,

1218
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,199
which I think most of the times warned because maybe

1219
01:02:39,239 --> 01:02:42,079
something's not explained correctly, so I have to go back

1220
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:42,639
and fix it.

1221
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: So you do share your writing with her when it

1222
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,280
comes to your Yeah, on occasion like screenplays. Yeah, yeah,

1223
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,000
not talking novels here, of course, we're taking more like

1224
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:56,480
writreen writing. Yeah, okay, okay, Because I was just going

1225
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:59,599
to ask, then, what how would you feel if Hillary

1226
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:03,599
wrote a screenplay and managed selling it for a million dollars?

1227
01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:04,639
Speaker 1: I wouldn't care.

1228
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd love it? Yeah, exactly, you are. Bill Bant

1229
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,239
doesn't get jealous for.

1230
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:12,599
Speaker 1: A million dollars. I'm not gonna tell.

1231
01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: You be like, way to be Hillary, keep writing?

1232
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, god, one thousand dollars, I'd be excited.

1233
01:03:20,239 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep rolling with this writing theme

1234
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,360
that I just was in my head about, just because

1235
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,840
I always I am curious with other writers, you know,

1236
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,480
as to their process. Right. So Andy and Elizabeth they

1237
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:34,239
move out to this beautiful country and Vermont, and that's

1238
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,519
where he feels he will find his inspiration, find the

1239
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:41,159
the space and the time to pursue his novel. What's

1240
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,039
your great What's what's your preferred creative space? Bill Bant

1241
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:47,599
is a writer, what's your ideal space to work in?

1242
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,119
Speaker 1: I don't think I have it right now? Pretty much

1243
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:55,039
whatever the house I can find. Yeah, yeah, so if

1244
01:03:55,079 --> 01:03:57,000
I had the perfect setting, it would be like a

1245
01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:00,199
house over looking the beach. Yeah, that would be it.

1246
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,320
I mean the countryside's cute with the bird out there.

1247
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,480
But I always thought about it if I had the money,

1248
01:04:07,519 --> 01:04:11,559
if I was really successful, I'd want some beachfront property

1249
01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:15,480
and I'd be sitting by a huge window overlooking the beach.

1250
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, it's similar. I mean it's similar

1251
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,960
to this film. Similar to you, I would I'd be

1252
01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:22,920
up in the mountains. I'd have a cabin in the mountains.

1253
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:26,840
I'd like the rural setting. I'd like that type of scenery. Also,

1254
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:32,639
I really love my quiet. I need the quiet, which

1255
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:35,039
is interesting. It's changed over the years where I used

1256
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:38,480
to always be listening to music, and I still very

1257
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:42,159
very much thousand percent need music as inspiration. I have

1258
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:44,239
to have my music. But I used to listen to

1259
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,800
music a lot while I was writing, versus now I

1260
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,480
think I really just treasure the silence.

1261
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: So it's funny you brought this up about the money

1262
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,840
with the equivalent nowadays. But I wanted to know how

1263
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,719
much it was going to cost Andy and Elizabeth today

1264
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,559
if they tried that with the thifty dollars. Oh yeah,

1265
01:05:01,559 --> 01:05:03,880
so yeah, that equiveland today would be one hundred and

1266
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,519
thirty six rounded up one hundred and thirty seven dollars

1267
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:10,400
they would have to give each townfolk for kindness today's dollars.

1268
01:05:10,719 --> 01:05:14,599
Speaker 2: I also was wondering just guestimating how many townsfolk there were?

1269
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:18,599
How many people? I mean, what was the population of Redbud? Like, right,

1270
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,199
you think they probably had to pay like fifty people,

1271
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,719
seventy five more?

1272
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,039
Speaker 1: Oh, I would say over one hundred.

1273
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot, a lot of people participating,

1274
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:27,920
that's for sure.

1275
01:05:28,199 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I would have started around the ten

1276
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:34,639
dollars mark, Yeah, start low. Last thing for me, I

1277
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:37,840
found this very interesting and it certainly made a lot

1278
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,320
of Smith sense. So Madeline Smith was actually the first

1279
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,840
choice to replace Shelley Longlan cheers no kidding. Yeah, but

1280
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,119
supposedly she has health issues which kind of prevented her

1281
01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:53,599
from taking the role. Huh when you think about it,

1282
01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:57,039
you know, then they picked uh Cursty Allie. Yeah. I

1283
01:05:57,039 --> 01:05:58,679
wanted to make sure I said it right. Christi Ali,

1284
01:05:58,719 --> 01:06:01,320
I'm like, oh, it makes sense. They look almost alike.

1285
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: Oh, Bill, this is great. I could totally see Madeline

1286
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:10,000
Smith in that part. Yes, thousand, absolutely, she would have

1287
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,280
been great. Yeah, yeah, she would have been excellent on cheers.

1288
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:17,480
I think I think she had some comedic chops in

1289
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:21,039
this movie. She's pretty funny in her delivery. I thought

1290
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,719
I thought she was good. Yeah, I said serviceable earlier,

1291
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,880
and that sounds as though it's a ding, but it's

1292
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,119
not really. I think she was good in this agreed. Well,

1293
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:33,519
I didn't really have anything else for thoughts or questions,

1294
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:34,239
not as of now.

1295
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,039
Speaker 1: Let's move on to rating then. All right, all right,

1296
01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:38,880
so here we go on a scale of one to

1297
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:42,440
five lamb Fries. What do you give funny Farm?

1298
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,599
Speaker 2: So I'm going to surprise our listeners here a little bit.

1299
01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:49,880
I'm kind of in a because of the I do

1300
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,960
love the ending, and I do have a nostalgic attachment

1301
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,480
to this film, and I do still look upon it

1302
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:01,719
overall fondly. I I'm going to give it three lamb Fries.

1303
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,119
I may begrudgingly maybe have to downgrade it to two

1304
01:07:06,159 --> 01:07:09,159
point five that was my initial lamb Fry rating, but

1305
01:07:09,159 --> 01:07:11,400
I'm going to give it three because I'm feeling positive

1306
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,960
and upbeat today. I have to say it's a little

1307
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,360
wild to think that the director of Butch Casside and

1308
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,000
The Sun Dance Kid made this movie and went safe

1309
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,679
with it doing this version because the book was not

1310
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,719
as safe, and that's what Jeffery Bowe wanted to do.

1311
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,360
But anyway, this is George broy Hill's vision of it,

1312
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,800
so it was, yeah, I agree with you, Bill, fine safe.

1313
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:36,840
I just felt like the development, especially at the end

1314
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,639
of the relationship between Andy and Elizabeth, wasn't fully fleshed out.

1315
01:07:40,039 --> 01:07:43,920
I wished the obstacles with it of their relationship, the

1316
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,159
writing and the betrayal and stuff had happened sooner and

1317
01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:49,679
that we could have gotten to the good stuff this

1318
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,199
Norman Rockwell Christmas painting of Red Bud. I wished all

1319
01:07:53,239 --> 01:07:55,480
that had happened sooner in the films because that was

1320
01:07:55,559 --> 01:07:59,119
the most fun. But chevy Chase, he's fun to watch.

1321
01:07:59,159 --> 01:08:01,280
He might you know why chevy Chase. He reminds me

1322
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,719
of my dad. And I'm not you know, I'm not

1323
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,440
at all talking about chevy Chase is off screen persona

1324
01:08:07,679 --> 01:08:12,199
or the things that say this is strictly the chevy

1325
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:17,479
Chase characters that he portrays, particularly Clark Griswold and National Lampoons.

1326
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,039
Just the always like kind of a gentle giant, tall,

1327
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:23,680
handsome guy that's always positive, always has an idea of

1328
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,039
things to do in itinerary, a plan and goals and

1329
01:08:27,079 --> 01:08:30,720
things like that, and just wants to enjoy the outdoors

1330
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,039
and travel and all these things. That's my dad. And

1331
01:08:33,079 --> 01:08:35,159
he's goofy and he's silly too, and he has silly

1332
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:38,960
jokes and things. So I do appreciate Chevy Chase characters

1333
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,439
for that because those characters he portrays remind me of

1334
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,039
my dad in the best possible way. So he's good

1335
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:47,880
in this. I didn't think. This is not Fletch, it's

1336
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,239
not National Lampoon, it's not Candy Shack. But he's good.

1337
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,960
I found the chemistry between him and Madeline Smith fine

1338
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,800
and good, and yeah, I would still. I think you

1339
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,359
said this earlier too, Bill, so to reiterate, if you

1340
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,800
come across this, give it a watch, give it a watch.

1341
01:09:05,079 --> 01:09:07,239
It's feel good at the end. So I'm gonna give

1342
01:09:07,239 --> 01:09:08,239
it three lamp fries.

1343
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I originally wrote three, and then

1344
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,600
we're going through the podcast, I'm like, do I need

1345
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,000
to knock this down to two right that half? But no,

1346
01:09:17,039 --> 01:09:20,439
I think I'm gonna keep it at three because I

1347
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,560
do laugh. It does make me smile. But when you, yeah,

1348
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,720
break it down, there's a lot of flaws. It's just

1349
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,159
a weird thing. It's like, if you never see the movie,

1350
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:32,640
you'll be okay. But I think if you watch it,

1351
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,680
you'll enjoy it. It's not a must watch if you're

1352
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,560
gonna watch Chevy Chase movies. Yeah, this is probably the

1353
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,319
fifth or sixth to one I'm gonna list. Oh yeah,

1354
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,439
you're not missing anything, but it won't hurt to watch it.

1355
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,039
And uh yeah, I've watched a ton of times. I

1356
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:52,399
was still enjoying it. It goes by quick. Yeah, but yeah,

1357
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:54,680
you're right. That ending scene, Yeah, I wish that did

1358
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,840
play a little bit longer, well said. Okay, that about

1359
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,520
wraps up for this episode. As always, we appreciate you

1360
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,760
tuning in. Don't forget to follow us on your favorite

1361
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,119
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1362
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:09,880
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1363
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:13,840
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1364
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,880
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1365
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,359
dive into another classic from the greatest movie decade ever

1366
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,680
in nineteen eighties. Till then, stay cool. We have an

1367
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:24,680
excellent to everyone.

1368
01:10:25,039 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 2: As a novelist. I turned out to be a pretty

1369
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,840
good sports writer. Thanks for staying up with us. Goodnight World,

