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Speaker 7: we doing a bonus episode? This isn't a breaking news episode.
Speaker 7: This is not one of those situations where I'm something
Speaker 7: happened that I had to But as I alluded to
Speaker 7: on the main episode, there was an incident here in Mississippi,
Speaker 7: right down the road from US in Jasper County, in
Speaker 7: which a truck that may or may not have come
Speaker 7: from Two Lane University wrecked and had what may or
Speaker 7: may not have been diseased Reese monkeys on board. It
Speaker 7: was Originally one monkey escaped, now it's three monkeys escaped.
Speaker 7: I believe it was five killed. But the reason why
Speaker 7: we want to have this is my coworker, reporter Kevin
Speaker 7: Lindsay there with me at the Laurel Leader call. He
Speaker 7: was on this scene when this happened.
Speaker 6: He was there.
Speaker 7: Covering the event. He can tell us a little bit
Speaker 7: more details. But despite being one of the one the
Speaker 7: reporter on the scene, I think he was the only
Speaker 7: true reporter on the scene, he still doesn't know all
Speaker 7: the details. Because it seems to be nobody wants to
Speaker 7: take accountability and it continues to change. So I wanted
Speaker 7: to have Kevin on so we could talk to him
Speaker 7: about what he knows what's going on with the monkeys. Hey, Kevin,
Speaker 7: welcome to the Right Side radio show. How are you
Speaker 7: doing this evening?
Speaker 4: Pretty good man, Pretty good? Just winding down for the day.
Speaker 4: How's it going to you?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's the day before our deadline day,
Speaker 7: so as you know, those that can be hectic to
Speaker 7: make sure we have everything done ready for tomorrow morning,
Speaker 7: of course, and sometimes we get thrown curveballs, even right
Speaker 7: there at the edge of deadline, like what happened Tuesday
Speaker 7: with this crazy monkey story, you know, and Kevin, we
Speaker 7: were all sitting around the newsroom when we first got
Speaker 7: word that there was a truck that e wrecked with
Speaker 7: monkeys on it, and we and diseased monkeys, as we
Speaker 7: were told at the time. None of you, myself, Guru,
Speaker 7: none of us thought that this was real, did we?
Speaker 6: No, we didn't.
Speaker 4: I think you saw the text first, and it was
Speaker 4: something about wild monkeys had escaped or been in a
Speaker 4: wreck and they were near the Heidelberg exit. And then
Speaker 4: I saw the texts and I was like, there's no
Speaker 4: way this is true, and it certainly was true.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's one we saw the Jasper County
Speaker 7: Sheriffs post. I think that's when you decided I might
Speaker 7: want to jump in my car and go up there
Speaker 7: and see if I can get a picture or two,
Speaker 7: because when else are you going to have an opportunity
Speaker 7: to take a picture of wild diseased monkeys?
Speaker 6: Right right?
Speaker 7: And do you recall what they said they were diseased with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they said they were diseased with COVID hepatitis, a
Speaker 4: couple more things, yeah, just just crazy aggressive disease monkeys
Speaker 4: and herpes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Herpes was definitely one of them. It just it
Speaker 7: blew my mind to sit here. It sounds like something
Speaker 7: that if you read in a Hollywood script you would say, no,
Speaker 7: I'm not watching that movie. That sounds too ridiculous. So
Speaker 7: walk me through. Once you first get there, you know,
Speaker 7: what's what is the scene like and what what do
Speaker 7: you immediately see when you get to the scene of
Speaker 7: the wreck?
Speaker 4: Right, So it was just past the Heiddleburg exit, which
Speaker 4: is one seventeen exit, and probably about a mile and
Speaker 4: a half or two miles up from that exit, So
Speaker 4: between the Heidelberg and Glossburg exits, obviously there's a heavy
Speaker 4: presence of MHP Misit Coyway patrol just began of Shar's
Speaker 4: departments there. I think the Mississippi Department a Wildlife I
Speaker 4: think they were already there on the scene.
Speaker 6: I think m DOT was there.
Speaker 4: Actually they were, come to think of it now, they
Speaker 4: were actually mowing the roads and they were having to
Speaker 4: get the tractor stopped. But whenever I got there, I
Speaker 4: pulled off on the shoulder and yeah, there was a
Speaker 4: whole trailer.
Speaker 6: That was busted up. Obviously in the Median.
Speaker 4: In the middle of the Median, the truck had come
Speaker 4: off and the trailer was just sitting there, not flipped
Speaker 4: over anything like that. But there were crates everywhere, broken,
Speaker 4: some not broken, and him whenever I whenever I walked
Speaker 4: across towards the median, I'm probably thirty thirty five yards
Speaker 4: away from the trailer. I look up and I see
Speaker 4: one of the monkeys on top of the trailer. And
Speaker 4: as soon as I pull on my camera to take
Speaker 4: picture of him, he jumps inside the trailer because the
Speaker 4: trailer doors were open, and then he comes out, kind
Speaker 4: of eases out, and I took some pictures of him.
Speaker 4: He was sitting on the crate, and then I guess
Speaker 4: he heard the shutter firing on my camera and just
Speaker 4: start staring at me and my self in the deputy
Speaker 4: or there, just kind of taking it all in.
Speaker 7: But so so he gave you a death stare, I think,
Speaker 7: is how you described it when you got back to
Speaker 7: the office. You know this, Did the monkeys what they
Speaker 7: didn't seem aggressive to you? Why you were observing them?
Speaker 6: Did they No, No, they weren't. I don't know if
Speaker 6: they were.
Speaker 4: You know, obviously there's still a lot of questions, and
Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll talk about that, but they didn't seem aggressive.
Speaker 4: Actually talked with a couple of deputies and said.
Speaker 6: They were more curious.
Speaker 4: As obviously as Missi Cowai patrol and law enforcement got there,
Speaker 4: some of them kind of walked towards their cars, but not.
Speaker 6: In an aggressive manner or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Uh, they were mainly I think shook up, and obviously
Speaker 4: we don't know if they were drugged or you know,
Speaker 4: anything like that. But yeah, they were just kind of
Speaker 4: hanging out, and I think as they were kind of
Speaker 4: getting their wits back about them and things like that,
Speaker 4: they started wandering off a little bit from the accident site.
Speaker 7: Did they did the monkey seem injured after the wreck
Speaker 7: or was there there anything that made you think they
Speaker 7: might have been hurt?
Speaker 4: I one looked hurt. I really can't tell. I know
Speaker 4: in some of my photos he did look injured. One
Speaker 4: of them did h Mostly I think they had just
Speaker 4: been shook up, obviously going through and bouncing around in
Speaker 4: the media and things like that.
Speaker 7: Was the driver of the truck, was he willing to
Speaker 7: talk to you or were you able to get any
Speaker 7: anything out.
Speaker 6: Of the driver?
Speaker 4: Now, neither the driver or the co driver really talked
Speaker 4: throughout the whole thing. While I was there, they were
Speaker 4: talking to highway patrol and things like that, I guess,
Speaker 4: telling them what had happened. But obviously you know this
Speaker 4: that highway trol said the crash was still under investigate you.
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, they'll probably say that for three months now.
Speaker 7: So right right, very very helpful organization, I'll be so.
Speaker 7: Uh But Kevin, tell us some of the first reports
Speaker 7: you were getting, you know, as you got out there,
Speaker 7: as you were driving there, tell us some of the
Speaker 7: things that you were getting, you know, maybe from the
Speaker 7: Sheriff's department or anything you were getting on the scene
Speaker 7: once you once you arrived from someone.
Speaker 4: Yes, so whenever I got there and took pictures is
Speaker 4: in also Hierberg Police department.
Speaker 6: That was one of the one of the people that
Speaker 6: I talked to.
Speaker 4: Uh, they were talking about they were trying to get
Speaker 4: a count on the monkeys and things like that. And
Speaker 4: as we're standing there and obviously a few of the
Speaker 4: monkeys had to be put down because they were leaving
Speaker 4: the crash site. And what I understood just kind of
Speaker 4: hearing the wildlife people talking to who I think was
Speaker 4: Tulane University.
Speaker 6: They were saying if the monkeys get loose away.
Speaker 4: From the crash site, to eliminate them and put them
Speaker 4: down basically, and that's what they had to do. They
Speaker 4: put several of them down. I think they ended up
Speaker 4: putting five down. Obviously we had to back.
Speaker 6: Away from there.
Speaker 4: They shut traffic down both ways things like that and
Speaker 4: made it safe for everyone, and I backed off of it,
Speaker 4: of course, but they put I think five down. And
Speaker 4: at that point we heard that one monkey had crossed
Speaker 4: the road the interstate and was actually close to where
Speaker 4: my car was parked. As we're sitting there, one of
Speaker 4: the deppies is like, I think I just saw a
Speaker 4: monkey go like down close.
Speaker 6: To where your car was at. Uh. So that was
Speaker 6: kind of interesting.
Speaker 4: But at the time, we were just hearing that they
Speaker 4: were aggressive and that they were going to Florida, which
Speaker 4: we I don't know where that rumor started, and then
Speaker 4: of course that they were diseased with all.
Speaker 6: Kinds of stuff, So a lot of conflicting reports.
Speaker 1: I know y'all were.
Speaker 4: Getting stuff in as I was on the scene too,
Speaker 4: but there was just a lot of confusion, I felt like.
Speaker 7: And they's still confusion.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: And before we get to that confusion, you told us
Speaker 7: a story about when once they started shooting the monkeys
Speaker 7: to try to prevent them from going away. You you
Speaker 7: told us that one had a very peculiar response to
Speaker 7: being shot.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Do you mind walking us through that?
Speaker 6: Yeah. So I'm standing behind the deputy, well behind a deputy, and.
Speaker 4: He fires off. He's obviously using an ar and from
Speaker 4: what I understand was the hallow point.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: He shoots the monkey, which they were pretty large, like
Speaker 4: there were some that were smaller, but there was pretty
Speaker 4: large monkeys there too, And he shoots one and it
Speaker 4: just turns around and stares at us. And I get
Speaker 4: behind a vehicle because we don't know how they're going
Speaker 4: to react. And I was blown away, and I think
Speaker 4: the deputy was too, that he shoots a monkey with
Speaker 4: an ar uh and the monkey just turns around.
Speaker 6: He had to shoot the.
Speaker 4: Monkey multiple times, and they did with all with pretty
Speaker 4: much all of them, I believe, had to had to
Speaker 4: shoot them multiple times because they were just I don't know,
Speaker 4: I really don't know the structure of a monkey, but
Speaker 4: apparently they were tough.
Speaker 6: They're tough animals.
Speaker 7: It is obvious that they were from from what she
Speaker 7: because I remember our reaction when you told us story
Speaker 7: in the office, where like, yeah, that that would have
Speaker 7: been about the time I got ready to leave. I
Speaker 7: see somebody get shot with a hollow point ak round
Speaker 7: and it doesn't phase them. Yeah, now I'm tapping out
Speaker 7: on that one. So and again, it's anytime there's a
Speaker 7: loss of life of an animal or anything like that.
Speaker 7: We're not making fun of that, we're not relishing that
Speaker 7: in any way, but we're just trying to recount what
Speaker 7: actually happened. One of the things to Kevin that I
Speaker 7: know you saw and I saw there were a lot
Speaker 7: of Facebook keyboard warriors who were quick to be critical
Speaker 7: of law enforcement officers, you know, saying things like why
Speaker 7: didn't you just shoot them with a tranquilizer gun and
Speaker 7: you and I know the simple answer to that, they're
Speaker 7: not equipped with that stuff. And yeah, you know when
Speaker 7: you're faced with the option of because again at this
Speaker 7: point there does zazed hyperly aggressive to human monkeys, is
Speaker 7: the story. So you're left with an option of put
Speaker 7: them down or let them get in the community and
Speaker 7: possibly in fact or worse harm or kill someone. You
Speaker 7: really pretty much the only option that they had was
Speaker 7: the lethal option that they chose Kevin, did I lose you.
Speaker 6: By Yeah, that's that's the that's the truth, and that's
Speaker 6: what I will.
Speaker 7: Hell, yeah, you're still here.
Speaker 6: I think we think there you go.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I think that, Yeah. I think that's
Speaker 4: the biggest thing that I've I've told people is the
Speaker 4: fact that.
Speaker 6: You know, there's there.
Speaker 4: You don't have twenty tranquilizer darts or how or many
Speaker 4: a dozen tranquilizer darts on hand, and honestly, Jasper County
Speaker 4: and Jonalds County neither one or quilled for that. I mean,
Speaker 4: you don't know what to prescribe to a monkey.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Obviously, we deal with cattle and horses around here, so
Speaker 4: you know, if you give an animal too much, you
Speaker 4: could you could kill them too. And uh, you know,
Speaker 4: obviously with them being aggressive and diseased, what we thought
Speaker 4: initially they were just trying to trying to make sure
Speaker 4: that nothing tragic happened to people or anyone else.
Speaker 7: Now, of course, the next day we see a statement
Speaker 7: from Tulane. We also get reports that it was not
Speaker 7: one monkey that escaped, but three monkeys that escaped. You know,
Speaker 7: first Kevin tell us about the first statement from TWU Lane,
Speaker 7: and then you can kind of tell us about how
Speaker 7: did they mistakenly think it was just one monkey that escaped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I think where the confusion really has start.
Speaker 4: And two Lane releases a statement saying that it's not
Speaker 4: their monkeys, it's you know, they're not infected, they're not diseased,
Speaker 4: anything like that, and it just kind of goes on
Speaker 4: and then they deflect to the Mississippi Highway Patrol and
Speaker 4: Jasperganny Sheriff's apartment, and then they were supposed to come
Speaker 4: get the monkeys the next day, so it would have
Speaker 4: been Wednesday. And then you've got wildlife fishing Game and
Speaker 4: Mission Highway Patrol and Jaffa Granna Shaff's apartment saying, you know,
Speaker 4: we don't have anywhere to house these monkeys. Their trailers broke,
Speaker 4: crates are broken. We need someone that knows what they're
Speaker 4: doing and how to handle these things up here now.
Speaker 6: So they make their way. Two Lane does.
Speaker 4: Around i'must assuming seven o'clock, six o'clock, seven o'clock somewhere
Speaker 4: along than there, and we find out that not one
Speaker 4: monkey's escaped, but three monkeys have escaped.
Speaker 6: And then it goes on to.
Speaker 4: Basically Jasper Counties referring back to Highway Patrol, Highway Patrols
Speaker 4: referring back.
Speaker 6: To tu Lane.
Speaker 4: Tu Lane's referring to Mississippi Wildlife. I mean, it's just
Speaker 4: back and forth, and honestly, I think it starts with
Speaker 4: TU Lane. I don't I don't want to throw the
Speaker 4: Sheriff's department under the bus or anyone else, because ultimately
Speaker 4: I think it starts with Tu Lane because now they're
Speaker 4: not wanting to be not referring to the Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 4: They're referring to wildlife fishing game in MHP as of today.
Speaker 4: So it's just kind of strange. They haven't said we're
Speaker 4: the they were taking the monkeys. They just I've heard
Speaker 4: Maryland from the Jasper County Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 6: I heard that some of the monkeys who were.
Speaker 4: Alive and were actually in cages at the rec scene
Speaker 4: that they were going back to Louisiana. So just a
Speaker 4: lot of confusion, and it's it's me amplified, I feel
Speaker 4: like by the university.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: And that's the other thing too, because you alluded to it.
Speaker 7: TWU Lane released a third statement today, again deflect deflect, deflect,
Speaker 7: I think is the way how I described it when
Speaker 7: I read it. There's the biggest question I have is, Okay,
Speaker 7: they're not tu Lane University's monkeys. That's what they tell us.
Speaker 7: But then they go on to tell us that the
Speaker 7: monkeys are not diseased, they're not your monkeys.
Speaker 6: How do you know that?
Speaker 7: And then another question I have, Kevin, and I know
Speaker 7: you don't have the answers, but I want to talk
Speaker 7: about it with you. The other question I have is
Speaker 7: the officials from Tulane arrived to this scene and has
Speaker 7: mad suits.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if they're not diseased, why are you aware of those? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I don't understand that we're saying they're not diseased. Yet
Speaker 4: there's pictures of them in face shields and everything else
Speaker 4: coming down here setting out live traps for the monkeys.
Speaker 4: And that's something that you know, everybody's got these questions
Speaker 4: and they're wanting answers, and no one is wanting to
Speaker 4: give straightforward answers in my opinion.
Speaker 7: And that's what I'm seeing. And as a reporter, you
Speaker 7: know you have an obligation to the community to get
Speaker 7: them the best, most accurate information possible. How frustrating has
Speaker 7: this entire ordeal been since the initial call to go
Speaker 7: out to the interstate to the crash scene. How frustrating
Speaker 7: has it been just trying to get a kernel of truth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very frustrating.
Speaker 4: It's frustrating for one because, and I'll say this, the
Speaker 4: Mississippi Highway Patrol they tout their chest on that they.
Speaker 6: Handle all recks. And you know this just as well
Speaker 6: as I do.
Speaker 4: They handle all res on the interstate and highway. They
Speaker 4: overrule our sheriff's departments or city police, and they do
Speaker 4: not say anything about it.
Speaker 6: We're handling it.
Speaker 4: Yet we both got the press release that they're not
Speaker 4: having any comment regarding the crash. Well, there was only
Speaker 4: one truck with a driver and co driver. What happened
Speaker 4: to cause the truck to crash, we don't know, and
Speaker 4: they won't comment on it. We heard a rumor today
Speaker 4: that the driver fell asleep, but it's one o'clock in
Speaker 4: the afternoon, and every co driver of the truck. But
Speaker 4: that's again, that's not from the MHP. That's just a
Speaker 4: rumor that we heard.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's no telling where that initially came from. So,
Speaker 7: I mean, you can't go to print with a rumors.
Speaker 7: It's beyond because I mean, again, this story has made
Speaker 7: national news. This is not a story that's just confined
Speaker 7: to our area now, and yet nobody's getting any real facts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very frustrating, and you know, I understand with
Speaker 4: miss Wildlife and Game. The day of it happened, the
Speaker 4: guy who was kind of heading up things, he was
Speaker 4: getting pulled everywhere.
Speaker 6: He was trying to contact Tulane.
Speaker 4: He's trying to talk, you know, with Missy Piway patrolled
Speaker 4: about the accident, so he really couldn't give much information.
Speaker 4: But at some point someone has to give information. We
Speaker 4: don't even know where the monkeys were going to, you know,
Speaker 4: we were told by the Jaspergann Sheriff's Department Department, Maryland,
Speaker 4: but the hag on the trailer had made and then
Speaker 4: we don't know where the monkeys were actually going to.
Speaker 4: And there's been no one say that these monkeys were
Speaker 4: going to a university or a zoo or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Tulane has just said that they weren't theirs and they
Speaker 4: were someone else's.
Speaker 7: Yeah, essentially, nobody's even claimed these monkeys. So we don't
Speaker 7: even know one hundred percent, assuming Tulane's telling the truth.
Speaker 7: We don't know who owned these monkeys to begin with.
Speaker 7: We don't know how Tulane's name came associated with the
Speaker 7: monkey or do you know how Tulane's name came associated
Speaker 7: with the monkeys?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: The only thing that I know is that the Sheriff's
Speaker 4: department said that the monkeys came from Tulane University.
Speaker 6: That's the only thing that we know.
Speaker 7: Yes, so we don't even know if they got that
Speaker 7: from the driver or where that came from. It seems
Speaker 7: very suspect to me. And again the fact that Tulane
Speaker 7: says they're not theirs, but they know that they're not diseased.
Speaker 7: I mean, again, how do you know that if you
Speaker 7: weren't involved with them in some way, shape or form,
Speaker 7: and if they're not diseased. Back to the point we
Speaker 7: made before, why are you showing up on the scene
Speaker 7: in a full hasmad seat suit. I mean, what's what's what's?
Speaker 6: What are you like?
Speaker 7: I mean, it sounds like we're being fed a lot
Speaker 7: of lies, is what you're uh. And I hate to
Speaker 7: be that way to a university like Tulane, but it
Speaker 7: just it seems like somebody needs to fall on the
Speaker 7: sword here. I mean it, Ultimately, it's nobody outside of
Speaker 7: the driver in that vehicle's fault that the crash happened. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, it's not the fault of whoever owns these
Speaker 7: monkeys that the crash happened and three have gotten loose.
Speaker 6: It just isn't.
Speaker 7: But somebody has to take ownership and take responsibility here
Speaker 7: because these questions, we're not going to stop asking.
Speaker 6: Them, right, And that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I think that you've had so many news outlets cover
Speaker 4: it that have no affiliation here. And I'm not saying
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that really is degrading here. Thing I
Speaker 4: was because Fox and Use, the CBS, everyone else's has
Speaker 4: lashed onto this. But the problem is is there's no
Speaker 4: one to take a lead, like you said, no one
Speaker 4: to take ownership. You would think at some point there
Speaker 4: would be some kind of press conference or something to
Speaker 4: explain what happened and to give details of what's going on.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, we've been jokingly referring to it in the office
Speaker 7: as monkey gate, because you know, anytime there's a controversy
Speaker 7: you put gate behind it, it becomes more serious. It's
Speaker 7: just at some point, I mean because again, not just
Speaker 7: tu Lane, but somebody has to take the leadership role
Speaker 7: on the investigation side, because, like I said, you're getting
Speaker 7: nothing from Mississippi a Highway Patrol, the Mississippi Wildlife. I
Speaker 7: hadn't seen them say much. I mean, the Jasper County
Speaker 7: Sheriff's Department. I think they were the ones who would
Speaker 7: talk to us the most. But I think they've all
Speaker 7: but washed their hands of it now when are handed
Speaker 7: it off to the other folks, So I don't think
Speaker 7: they even have any information to add to it. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, you know how long, Kevin, have you been
Speaker 7: in journalism?
Speaker 4: I started in twenty twelve freelancing for newspapers, so you're
Speaker 4: looking at thirteen going on fourteen years now.
Speaker 7: In your fourteen years of experience, have you ever come
Speaker 7: across the story of this bizarre.
Speaker 6: No, I've never. I mean, you know you know this
Speaker 6: as well as I have.
Speaker 4: I've covered police shootings and everything else in between, and
Speaker 4: college football games and whatnot, and torn eights, and I've
Speaker 4: never seen anything like this, Never, especially for especially for
Speaker 4: a one car incident or one vehicle incident. I know
Speaker 4: there was monkeys on board and things like that, but
Speaker 4: we've I've covered accidents involving animals and things like that,
Speaker 4: but this is, this is unreal.
Speaker 7: It's it's just I mean, at this point, you know,
Speaker 7: all I can do is ask you to speculate. I mean,
Speaker 7: do you think that they're because I don't think they
Speaker 7: can cover this up. I think they're enough news agency
Speaker 7: sniffing around now that at some point we're gonna have
Speaker 7: to get something, like you said, a press conference. Something's
Speaker 7: gonna have to come out because I just don't see
Speaker 7: how you duck away from it. Do you believe that
Speaker 7: I'm right in that sense that maybe here soon well
Speaker 7: we'll have it. Or do you think they're waiting until
Speaker 7: they captured the three missing monkeys?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I just don't see this going away. And I'll say
Speaker 4: this with with Tulane, with the Missip Howway Patrol, with
Speaker 4: every law enforcement agency that was out there, and mississipp
Speaker 4: Department of Wildlife, Fishing Game, I don't think.
Speaker 6: That this just goes and sweeps under the rug.
Speaker 4: In two weeks from now, no one is talking about
Speaker 4: it because there's three monkeys that are on the loose.
Speaker 6: I've grown up around this area.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of swamp land around there, a lot
Speaker 4: of honey leases and things like that. They're not going
Speaker 4: to probably find those monkeys here fast, I'll say that.
Speaker 4: So this isn't just gonna go away. It's going to
Speaker 4: keep going. And I know we're going to keep covering it,
Speaker 4: and every day that I go into work and I'm
Speaker 4: always checking to try to see if there's any kind
Speaker 4: of update. I mean, personally, I'm not gonna let it go.
Speaker 4: I want to I want to know who is going
Speaker 4: to step up and who's going to take the lead
Speaker 4: and say, Okay, here's the story, here's the details that
Speaker 4: we can give you and have a complete story. Because
Speaker 4: the rules of journalism is what, when, where, why? And
Speaker 4: we're missing a lot of whys, and we're missing the wares,
Speaker 4: we're his. There's a lot of things we're missing.
Speaker 7: We're missing the who.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're missing the who I mean, and that's.
Speaker 7: One of the most important Uh. And and again this
Speaker 7: is a pure speculation question, Kevin.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: Why let's be again and this is an assumption we
Speaker 7: again really admit we don't know. But let's let's assume
Speaker 7: the monkeys did originate from Tulane as we were originally told.
Speaker 7: Why would they then turn and lie about them being
Speaker 7: their monkeys. I mean, that's that's the other thing, you
Speaker 7: see what I'm saying. That's part of why we're asking
Speaker 7: so many questions because it just doesn't make sense why
Speaker 7: you would lie about it unless maybe there's a greater
Speaker 7: risk than even what they told us initially.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: I think that's the thing is I sit and ponder
Speaker 4: on it and have been for a couple of days.
Speaker 4: These monkeys didn't come from a zoo. They didn't come
Speaker 4: from the New Orleans Zoo going to the nash Zoo,
Speaker 4: right because we would know if they were going from
Speaker 4: the New Orleans Zoo to the Nashville Zoo or the
Speaker 4: Georgia Zoo or.
Speaker 8: You know whatever, that they would probably be healthy. They
Speaker 8: wouldn't have anything of the disease or anything like that.
Speaker 8: It would just be in no other terms, it would
Speaker 8: just be a tragedy. Right of they these monkeys were
Speaker 8: involved in accent, but the fact that they were at
Speaker 8: a university that often does research and does things like that,
Speaker 8: does testing, that kind of makes you raise your eyebrow. Yeah,
Speaker 8: And the fact that we're sitting here not knowing where
Speaker 8: they were going. You know, if they were saying Okay,
Speaker 8: we researched these monkeys and you know they've aged out
Speaker 8: and we're taken them to the Baltimore Zoo, Right, that
Speaker 8: would be believable. I could, I could really honestly believe that. Well,
Speaker 8: you know, they they tested on them and they don't
Speaker 8: have any diseases. They were going to Baltimore's zoo. Could
Speaker 8: believe that.
Speaker 4: But the fact that they're saying or not saying where
Speaker 4: they're going, that's where I raise the eyebrow at absolutely.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's there's a lot of questions. I mean,
Speaker 7: part of the reason I had you tell the story
Speaker 7: about the monkey that got shot and then turned and
Speaker 7: scared at y'all, is even even if that's natural, because
Speaker 7: as you said, we we don't know enough about monkey biology.
Speaker 7: But that definitely raised the red flaggers, like what what
Speaker 7: have they done to this monkey to where he can
Speaker 7: get shot with a hollow point from an a k
Speaker 7: and just turn around like nothing happened to him. That
Speaker 7: just that still blows my mind when I when I
Speaker 7: read that, because uh, it's just crazy that that this
Speaker 7: is exactly what is happening.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: And that's that's just one of those things that we
Speaker 7: continue to monitor and observe as we continue to talk
Speaker 7: about this this story, Kevin, and and you know, it's
Speaker 7: one of those stories that when you drove out to
Speaker 7: you didn't know it was going to be a national
Speaker 7: news story.
Speaker 6: At that time, right, you had definitely didn't expect that. No, it's.
Speaker 7: Like I said, have you let me ask you this
Speaker 7: before we start to wrap up. Did the Jasper County
Speaker 7: Sheriff Department have they told you where they got the
Speaker 7: initial reports that the monkeys were.
Speaker 6: Diseased and.
Speaker 7: Overly aggressive to humans? Did they tell us where we
Speaker 7: where we got where they got that information?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: There was an update on their press release blog, I believe,
Speaker 4: and they which they post the press release blogs also
Speaker 4: on their Facebook page, and and one of the updates
Speaker 4: they said the driver told them, I mean, that the
Speaker 4: monkeys were doomed, aggressive and could have diseases. And apparently
Speaker 4: that's when they reached out to tu Lane to try
Speaker 4: to figure out what was going on. And I'm from
Speaker 4: what I understand, it was the driver and the co
Speaker 4: driver the vehicle saying that the monkeys were diseased. And
Speaker 4: one of the things too that was said while I
Speaker 4: was standing there was that they were advising them not
Speaker 4: to touch them without PPE, without wearing something. So you know,
Speaker 4: that's another thing that kind of raises an eyebrow. Why
Speaker 4: couldn't they handle the monkey's crates, not the monkeys the
Speaker 4: crates without PPE?
Speaker 7: Yeah, did have you tried to reach out to two
Speaker 7: Lane yourself yet? And if you haven't, is that going
Speaker 7: to be your next step in this investigation?
Speaker 6: No? I haven't.
Speaker 4: I haven't reached out to tu Lane yet, and if
Speaker 4: I need to, I probably end will end up doing it.
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like they're responding to anyone other than
Speaker 4: releasing updates on their on the cord though probably the
Speaker 4: same way as a Missy Highway patrol.
Speaker 7: Too frustrating for sure. You know, we just want to answers.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's all we're asking for. That's not
Speaker 7: too much to ask for. We're not trying to place blame.
Speaker 7: We're not trying to We want the public to be safe,
Speaker 7: and right now, I think there's a very realistic concern
Speaker 7: that these monkeys are as they were described initially, just
Speaker 7: based on the way tu Lane has handled things. It
Speaker 7: just seems like they're trying to skirt away from liability
Speaker 7: blame they sure do know an awful lot about these
Speaker 7: monkeys for a group that hadn't for a university that
Speaker 7: had nothing to do with them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: For sure, it's just a lot of like I said,
Speaker 4: the who, what, when, where, or why and all that,
Speaker 4: we're just missing a lot of those.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And here's the thing. If they're not two Lane's monkeys,
Speaker 7: and we again we're speculating when we say we're not
Speaker 7: sure we're buying that, but if they're not theirs, then
Speaker 7: maybe they should be helping us find out who was
Speaker 7: the owner of the monkeys, so that way we can
Speaker 7: try to make sure that the we're talking to the
Speaker 7: appropriate people, you know, because if they're not two Lane's monkeys,
Speaker 7: again speculating again, it definitely makes me think that Tulane
Speaker 7: knows who the owners are if there are in fact
Speaker 7: not truly theirs, because there's a connection somewhere to these monkeys,
Speaker 7: and it just their knowledge just and it's not just
Speaker 7: because they have a strong knowledge of Reese monkeys in general.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's a little bit more that Tulane knows
Speaker 7: than they're willing to let us know. At least that's
Speaker 7: my opinion.
Speaker 6: I think you agree with me on that, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 7: Well, Kevin, I know that you'll stay on top of this.
Speaker 7: You know that myself and Guru will be right there
Speaker 7: besides you helping whatever you need from us.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: Is there anything else you want to leave the listeners
Speaker 7: with before we wrap this thing up?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Just keep an eye on if you live in the
Speaker 4: Hoddleburg area, keep an eye on your trail.
Speaker 6: Counts, and uh, stay safe. Obviously.
Speaker 4: I know we kind of joke about it, but seriously,
Speaker 4: after watching several deputies in law enforcement try to shoot
Speaker 4: these monkeys, if you see one, I do not approach
Speaker 4: it thinking that it's you know, a possom or a
Speaker 4: raccoon or you know some wildlife that we normally have
Speaker 4: around here, because they they definitely are stronger than what
Speaker 4: you think.
Speaker 7: Stronger than we are, for sure. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 7: funniest thing, Kevin. Guess who's on TV the Thursday night
Speaker 7: college football game? Right we're recording this.
Speaker 6: I don't know who is it?
Speaker 7: Two Lane. You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 6: I'm sure that it might end up being reference.
Speaker 7: Then I would hope, I would hope. So I know
Speaker 7: Glenn Banks already had it. I'm surprised we hadn't seen
Speaker 7: a clip of Pat McAfee talking about it. Maybe he's
Speaker 7: saving that for college game day. Well look, Kevin, I
Speaker 7: appreciate you coming on. This won't be the last time
Speaker 7: I have you on. Maybe next time we'll talk about
Speaker 7: something beside monkeys.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, for sure. Thanks Kevin, all right, thank you.
Speaker 7: Well everyone that was Kevin Lindsay with the Laurel Leader
Speaker 7: called my coworker telling us about the great monkey escape,
Speaker 7: the great monkey outbreak, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 7: But there are a lot of questions that we have,
Speaker 7: and I mean again, we can speculate.
Speaker 6: All we want.
Speaker 7: We don't know for sure if the monkey's originated from
Speaker 7: too Lane. We don't know for sure what caused the accident.
Speaker 7: We don't know for sure if the monkeys are disease
Speaker 7: riddled and dangerous. There are so many questions that we
Speaker 7: just don't have answers to yet. We just need somebody
Speaker 7: to step up and take the lead and answer these questions. Kevin,
Speaker 7: I think is definitely the right reporter to stay on
Speaker 7: the job and stay after it. He knows he's got
Speaker 7: the full support of our boss and owner, Jim Sigelski.
Speaker 7: He knows he's got great supporting casts behind him to
Speaker 7: make phone calls where needed. And myself and Josh Guby Nichols.
Speaker 7: So again, a crazy story that just it sounds like
Speaker 7: something you'd find in a movie. Yet this is real life,
Speaker 7: that it's really happening. I hope that you guys will
Speaker 7: be careful out there. If you see something you think
Speaker 7: as a monkey, maybe maybe stay away from it. Maybe
Speaker 7: maybe don't try to be the hero yourself. This has
Speaker 7: been the right Side Radio program and this has been
Speaker 7: our special report special episode on the monkey madness, Monkey
Speaker 7: Madness in Mississippi. Thank you Kevin Lindsey, and we will
Speaker 7: be back again real soon.
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