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Speaker 1: You're locked in to Off the Bench Control live from
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and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Welcome man, oh t B Monday Morning.
Speaker 4: We got football this weekend. It is college football game week.
Speaker 5: Do you believe it?
Speaker 4: Kansas State, Iowa State in Dublin, can not wait.
Speaker 6: If there's one matchup that the good ironish people want
to see, it's.
Speaker 4: Again farmagain, gosh dang right, and it's gonna be potatoes.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be this weekend.
Speaker 4: Jake Flynn, Alandra Taytay all here with you. Watch some
preseason football. We'll break it all down. But we got
games is actually count coming up this week and now
don't look at the rest of the week zero slate,
like like, just don't don't do that.
Speaker 5: It's not great. There's other ones.
Speaker 2: There's other ones. Yeah, just yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 4: Don't do that, No worry. The one that we do
have is a good one, so I'm excited.
Speaker 5: I can't wait.
Speaker 6: The game from Ireland last year was fantastic, so I'm
hoping for another one. But I don't really care, Like
it's just going to be college football, so it's gonna be.
Speaker 5: College football with actually good teams.
Speaker 6: I don't, like you said, I don't care about the
other games, just excited for that does big college. Let's see,
the game day didn't start week zero, that starts week one.
The game day they'll do something. The last year, Yeah,
they did a full blown Yeah they had that.
Speaker 7: Ive had that Irish wrestler onless or whatever they everybody knows.
Speaker 5: Yeah they did, they did a full blown one. But
it was last year, the first Irish game.
Speaker 6: No, that wasn't No, okay, I didn't know if it
was like that, like they went there because it was
like first situation.
Speaker 4: Northwestern Nebraska have played there before. I know for sure
I got it, but I don't know. I feel like
I didn't hear about it.
Speaker 6: I feel like the game that I've been hearing about
is the one in Ohio State because it's gonna be
Lead Corso's send off, So I don't know. I hadn't
heard them about them going to Ireland.
Speaker 5: I don't know that.
Speaker 4: But you know what, as much as I as much
as I enjoy college game Day, I don't really care
because I'm gonna be watching either way.
Speaker 5: I do. I love I love the sounds of it. Yeah,
for sure, the tradition of it.
Speaker 4: Wait all right before we you know, dive headfirst into
the show and recap the Saints and Jags and Lshu's camp.
Speaker 2: Over the weekend, How we doing? How was the weekend?
Speaker 5: We're doing fantastic? The weekend was great.
Speaker 6: It was one of those just weekends if we didn't
have any plans. We had a nice little dinner on
Friday night with a big group of people, a little celebrate,
a little birthday party. But the rest of the week
it was just like make your own plans, do whatever
you want at the house. So it was one of
those weekends. I like, I'm a big lazy weekend guy.
No plans, So god jacket already coming off. It was
about it was about fifty eight degrees two minutes ago.
Speaker 5: Now it's ninety.
Speaker 4: Nothing keeps you on your toes like like this room.
Speaker 5: But no, it was a we had a great weekend.
Man excited here.
Speaker 6: It was it's fun to kind of like get back
to the routine of having at least football on in
the background, like on a Sunday.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I wasn't like real tuned into a lot of that
earlier games because we were getting ready for big flag
football practice yesterday, so that was priority one, right, But
that did before the Saints game. Went back and watched
the Saints game excited. I know, we'll get to that,
but I was just telling you what I did.
Speaker 5: How about you? Good weekend?
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of the same situation, not you know,
not not too much going on, not too too much.
I went to a wedding of a good friend that
was a lot of fun, right, yeah, invent Rue. Yeah,
I kind of we kind of aged out, you know,
of having weddings all the time, you know, so they're
good for you and you know younger yeah, younger, yeah,
you know, in his early thirties and so uh he
got mary shout out to my guy B.
Speaker 2: Went to that.
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, I'm forty at this wedding, all right,
still having fun though.
Speaker 5: I did you did you a little bit?
Speaker 2: I didn't hear that. I didn't hear it.
Speaker 4: You didn't a shout, No, we didn't say the whole time,
but it was a lot of what y'all at the end.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of what y'all.
Speaker 4: Played I think on Friday, A lot of what y'all
played on Friday.
Speaker 2: I heard Friday, I heard all the funky Friday.
Speaker 8: I'm not going to say that it's because of Funky Friday.
Speaker 9: But it was the day before very fair.
Speaker 5: So you were like the old gay you left early.
Speaker 2: Not early, I mean like you know, shouts and shouts
a closer.
Speaker 5: So yeah, they played.
Speaker 4: It, yeah earlier, earlier in the day. Uh so for
you high like on the Saturday, I think before they
kind of really like have their scrimmage There's a thing
called jamboree too.
Speaker 2: Flynn will explain what that is.
Speaker 4: All the parents and the players go and clean up
the stadium, like pull weeds and pick up any trash
and clean the bleachers and do that whole deal.
Speaker 2: So we had that Saturday morning.
Speaker 5: That sounds fun.
Speaker 2: Went bad, you know last Saturday off before in the
Super Bowl ends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just kidding, that doesn't sound fun at all. Yeah,
it was real cold out there. A Landra Tata. How
was the weekend?
Speaker 2: How'd we do? I see Alandra's already worked out this morning.
Speaker 8: Not a great weekend, then doorphins are flowing. I didn't
really do much Saturday, which is great. Actually had two
days off this weekend, which is not normal, but didn't
do anything Saturday. Absolutely dominated the pickleball court Sunday. And
I'm pretty sure I'm all in on pickleball now. Like
I was looking at outfits, I bought a sport just
for pickleball yesterday. I want to start a league. Yeah,
I'm super into. Court to table was super fun. Gordan
mccernin's do you play?
Speaker 2: Since every time we drive by there, it's awesome. It's passed.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and like pickleball is not the only thing they have,
Like they have an outdoor area where you could do
a bunch of different fun games, and then they just
have like the bar with your friends. Yeah, like cornhole, Jenga.
I love stuff like that. So but I'd never I
played pickleball. Maybe once in San Antonio. There's a place
called Chicken and Pickle and I went there like a
long time ago, and I don't know, like I was
super I had so much fun doing it. Saints didn't lose, they.
Speaker 9: Didn't win, but they didn't lose.
Speaker 4: And it was looking really rough there for a long time,
and so we got a lot to get to their actually.
Speaker 5: Got the picklebug.
Speaker 9: I have the pickleball.
Speaker 6: I think everybody who plays it catches it. Yeah, you
gotta be careful.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 5: You don't want to catch it?
Speaker 8: No, I think I already caught it. Yeah, like Mexican,
I bought a sport. I bought a sport for I
don't have a paddle yet, but I was looking up
paddles last.
Speaker 5: Night, a deep dive, yes, the internet. When it came
to pickleball.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was looking up shoes.
Speaker 8: They've got some they got on clouds, like the Roger
Federer shoes.
Speaker 9: You can use those for pickleball. Like I really.
Speaker 6: Am all right. I played it once and I had
a great time. But it was right at the same
time as I was trying to like take up playing tennis. Yeah,
like I wanted to play tennis because I wanted to
like scratch that competitive urge, but also like work in
my card. I hate running, but I'll run if it's
like in a competitive environment. Right, So I was like,
I'm not ever going to play pickleball again because like
I'll like it too much. I don't want to catch
the bug, and then I'll do that instead of playing tennis.
And tennis is like actually the workout where I run.
If I pickleball, you can get a workout in right,
and it's like.
Speaker 9: If you start to volley or rally like back and forth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, at least like I wanted to do the tennis
for the running aspect. It turns out I just stopped
playing both of them. So maybe you're yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2: I'm just.
Speaker 4: I've known him for let's see, over twenty years now.
Not a big running guy.
Speaker 5: I hate it. It's like the worst thing possible.
Speaker 8: I hate running, but I forced myself to do it
anyway because I hate it so much.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think anybody likes running, There's no way. Okay,
maybe you like the post run feeling.
Speaker 5: Get that.
Speaker 4: Everybody there is there is There is a such thing
as runners high though, yeah.
Speaker 9: Not during during you you can get it.
Speaker 2: I think you can.
Speaker 9: You can get it during while you're running.
Speaker 5: That's so real, it is. I think I said something
you tell yourself.
Speaker 4: Maybe no, man, because I've never looked you know both,
you know me, you and I.
Speaker 2: You and I have been in a lot of afternoon run.
Speaker 4: Groups together, a lot of a lot of them we
have but the system and a lot of one ten
tests before. Okay, so you know me, about two years ago,
I was running every single all day and I looked
forward to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even in the moment.
Speaker 4: Like I still I like, there was a runners high
and I got this first time I've ever tell me that.
It feels like it was like anticipation to go out
there and run, Like you looked forward to running, which
is wild.
Speaker 6: While you were running, your body was moving, yeah, faster
than a walk, faster than a yo, yep. What was
the feeling.
Speaker 2: Like, Damn, I'm running. Yeah, yeah, I'm running.
Speaker 5: Wow, this is and.
Speaker 2: You had your headphones free though, yeah, you had.
Speaker 4: Your headphones in, you had the playlist going. It was
like you didn't even know you were running.
Speaker 6: So like you didn't like, weren't like wheezing and miserableness
and everything hurting on your body and you just hated
life at that point. So like when you run, you're
run around the neighborhood, I'm assuming, yeah are you are
you setting goals? Like you're like, all right, just make
it to the next mailbox. So make it to that
next mailbox. Those songs last forever when you're running.
Speaker 9: He's just like vibe.
Speaker 4: Oh. I treated mine like a little bit because it
is harder for me, like if I'm doing that, like
to just running not really know where you're going and
just kind of So we have this like park in
our neighborhood and it's probably you know, seventy yards long
and then you know, thirty yards across, and so I
used to run curves.
Speaker 2: Like that's how I do it.
Speaker 4: Like I would run seventy thirty seventy and then I'd
walk the other thirty and then seventy thirty seventy and
they walk the other thirty. So that was my plan.
And I knew if I got to sixteen of those
it was two miles. Yeah, and if I got to
you know, like however many. That's how I kept up
with it, because I can't go from like mailbox to mailbox.
Speaker 2: I got to know exactly how far I'm running.
Speaker 5: I tried to jog a little bit one time.
Speaker 6: I was doing my distance by my Apple Watch yep,
and I ran like a mile.
Speaker 5: So I just like ran.
Speaker 6: What I did was I just took off from a
house and I ran as soon as it said point
five miles, I just stopped and turned around. Then the
next day I did the same run and I got
to that same point and it said point four miles.
Speaker 5: I was so mad I wanted to curse my watch out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Then yeah, the wheezes started. Yeah, so I might just
go back to tennis.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, pickle ball. There you go.
Speaker 5: We're calling you on ping pong.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you'd work pickle Quarterbacks are good
at random stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So, actually I'm super sick, like Saturday morning. Maybe I
went too hard on Friday night. Yeah, this lasted until
like four o'clock yesterday afternoon. It was It was awful,
but you actually had to do a lot too. Like
I had to go to this play that my sister
in law directed. Then we had to do Uh guys,
I had to go jeans jumping yesterday. What I had
to hang out the old ones old Navy was by
one off.
Speaker 5: So that's what we did. We got.
Speaker 7: Look, we got new jeans and new shoes on today.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 7: Okay, we're feeling shoes are nothing special. There's there's a
Magellan like casual style there there. There's nothing special, but
uh yeah, two new jeans. I was uh gradually going
through the closet. I was like, oh, these look like
they're about to have a hole at them.
Speaker 5: It's like, no, all go to the other ones.
Speaker 7: Oh these are these are these are kind of worn too,
so are those?
Speaker 5: It could happen.
Speaker 2: Are those now you're mowing jeans?
Speaker 5: No, I don't know. And jeans. If you mowing jeans,
you're a psychopathes.
Speaker 4: A lot of people do just because ye know, the
grass hitting them, rocks hitting them when they're weedy.
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that.
Speaker 7: Like anytime I see like a company going to most
somebody's house, they always have the long pants and long
sleeves on them. Like, I don't get that at all.
I'm shorts sleeveley shirt. Like it's as little as possible.
Speaker 6: It's a it's a safe oh show sleepless shure sleeveless shirt.
Speaker 5: Yeah you do. I mean, guys, it's not true.
Speaker 6: Sir.
Speaker 4: Hey, if you're an LP and you're driving by, just
focus on the road and those guns are gonna distract you.
Speaker 5: A little bit out sometimes.
Speaker 6: All right, seriously, just take the shirt off. You're already there,
you're already halfway there.
Speaker 7: I don't want so many people too much mad. I
mean the short sleeves enough, I mean the sleepless enough.
Speaker 2: People got to stay on the road.
Speaker 6: So I've never owned a pair of Magellan's, but are
those the same type of shoes? There was like the
commercial like ten fifteen years ago. Like, I'm jelling, I
have no idea. There was a commercial. He was like,
it was like you were trying to make it a
famous like that. What's up? It was like trying to
make that. Yeah, I'm jelling it's Magellan shoes.
Speaker 2: He went that old back then. Don't remember that.
Speaker 9: Spencer Ratler QB one.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it.
Speaker 5: We'll talk about it.
Speaker 2: Will you go talk about He's he's making a push.
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Speaker 9: From what do we call it the rat I'm in
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Speaker 4: The New Orleans Saints make a comeback to tie Jacksonville
seventeen All seventeen seventeen was the final score. I thought
maybe the Saints would get a chance of the last
second field goal. Looked like maybe after the interception a
foot went out of bounds with one second. But it's
a preseason, it ends in a tie, and it's more
about how did you perform, And so we're gonna be
looking at the quarterback position right from the top. Only
two played, so no J Caner, no J Caner. In
this game, it was Spencer Rattler, it was Tyler Shuck.
Tyler Shuck gets the start. He is nine of twelve,
sixty six yards, five point five yards per attempt, no touchdowns,
no interceptions, takes two sacks.
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler eighteen of.
Speaker 4: Twenty four one hundred and ninety nine yards, eight point
three yards per attempt, one touchdown, one interception, no sacks,
quarterback rating him ninety five point seven. Now, I certainly
want to break down the interception and I can't wait
to get Flint's thoughts on it, because just from my experience,
that is a play that Spencer Ratler will take some
of the heat, but it certainly is not all on
Spencer Rattler. And we'll kind of break down the play
design and what the receiver didn't do in that play.
Speaker 2: A little bit later on, but.
Speaker 4: I wrote in the group chat yesterday, I am ready
to call Spencer Ratler QB one for me from my
own vantage point. It is a team that is going
to be off schedule all year long. Spencer Rattler is
a better quarterback off schedule than Tyler Shuck. I'm not
saying Tyler Shuck can't end up being eventually a starter
in the NFL. It might be with the New Orleans Saints.
Hell it might be games this year. I don't know that.
But in a team that is going to be off
schedule between issues in the interior of your offensive line,
at the guard position, you know, who knows what the
receiver position is going to look like after a couple
of games, what's the the health going to look like?
And Spencer Rattler has lived in chaotic energy before he
did it South Carolina, there was sometimes in the first
preseason game he had to do it, and I just
think that he is better suited for where the Saints
are right now. I thought, you know, I thought there
was times yesterday that he showed he's a starting quarterback
in the NFL. So Tyler Shuck might end up eventually
taking that over. It's the situation is a little bit different.
But for a team that I think is going to
be off schedule all season long, I think Spencer Rattler
is the best case scenario for that.
Speaker 5: We'll tell me, Jake, why are we going to be
off schedule?
Speaker 4: Because you don't have great protection up front, because your
health of your receivers hasn't been great, and you've had
to throw to guys that nobody knows who they are
unless you cover the New Orleans Saints or you're a
fan of the New Orleans Saints. I think it's going
to be kind of chaotic. I don't think it's going
to be, Hey, we're gonna line up, We're gonna be
an eleven personnel. We're gonna always have those two receivers
over there, this receiver over here, this tight end here,
this running back next to me, these five offensive linemen
in front of me. I don't think that's ever going
to be the scenario for the Saints. And they have
immediate pressure multiple times from the interior of their offensive line.
And so when I see that, Okay, which one of
these quarterbacks, and it's not fair to either one of them.
But it is the case which one of them can
find that small little windows, step up, step out, roll
out whatever and make a play and think Spencer Rattler
does that much better than Tyler Shock.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The offensive line play obviously has not been great through
the first two games. Spencer Rattler has not once looked
not in control of his decision, not in control of
his body. His movement is whether he's scrambling all the
chaos around him, like you said, I mean he's like
he's through college, like he dealt with the fire all
around him, so like he's never looked out of control. Now,
let me say this, I think both quarterbacks have played
really well, Like, yeah, both games. If you take there
to me, I'll look at both games, and they both
played about the game ebbed and flowed equally in both games. Right, So,
Tyler Shuck in the second game, got the start, did
it really do anything wrong, Like, completed the passes he
was supposed to, made some really good throws, made some
decisions look comfortable a lot like Spencer Ratler did in
the first game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And we talked about like how it's a little
bit hard rock.
Speaker 6: Mining in the in the at the beginning of a
preseason game and then in the first game, Tyler Shuck
comes in, has better stats, looks a little bit better,
has like these ooh in awe moments are a little bit different.
Spencer had the same thing because they get more opportunities.
They get more opportunities to kind of open it up,
aerit out down the field. You get opportunities in a
two minute drive situation, which is, you know, if you
can get a lot of completions and get some yardage,
it helps the stats and it helps you look better,
feel better. So what so to me, like if I
compare just the overall like stats and the flow of
the game pretty similar, which is which is very positive.
Like that I said it after the first game. Quarterback
is not going to be the issue for this football
team right in twenty twenty five. They both I think
from a Saints fan perspective, I think overall it's been
really positive at the quarterback position. I'm not going to
say they're all pro guys or a top ten fifteen
quarterback in the league, but it's been really positive for
that being like the biggest question mark that we have
on a team where I think Spencer Rattler has looked
to me like he's separated himself. Is that comfortability in
the pocket in that uh, the movement, being able to
move within the pocket, scram and make positive plays out
of a negative looking situation. So it's gonna have to
be that you do. Like you said, we are going
to have to play off schedule this year. We you
have to expect past pass protection breakdowns each and which which.
Speaker 4: Is so unfair to like Tyler Shuck in this competition
right now. But it's wild to say that because I
agree with you. It's been a lot of good like.
Isn't it wild to say that I'm probably gonna go
with Spencer just because I don't like I don't think
that the protection in front of him, Again, the tackles
have been good.
Speaker 6: It's the interior that's the to me, that's a separating factor.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 6: I think Rattler with the at least a little bit
more experience. I think both of them have proven to
be good in the pocket. They both throw a beautiful ball. Yeah,
they both have really good arm talent, hand talent like it,
just they spin it real well. I can't say that
I think Tyler Shuck's like better than Rattler in the pocket.
I think they're both been playing really good. They've completed
the passes they've needed to, they've both gone through their progressions.
They've got one, two, three. They fit checkdowns, they fit
passes down the field. They've done what you ask a
quarterback to do within a system. Now, the big plays,
the big sexy plays, like the things the completing a
pass on a third and fourth down, a game time
touchdown or whatever it is, Like those are the things
that separate doing the right things and being good to
being like, okay, this is this could be a dude,
And you won't really know that until you get into
the live bullets week one, week two, week three and
you see who can make those plays. But you have
to make a decision at some point, and that decision
is coming really quick. You got one game left. I
think obviously the Jkyner experiment is over.
Speaker 2: Those wasted days. Get over those wasted days.
Speaker 6: And you know what, they're not wasted if one of
these guys struggled, but they haven't happened, which is good.
Speaker 5: And again, like from.
Speaker 6: A Saints fan perspective, both of the quarterbacks have played
the position well, like they've been coached to do. They've
played within a system, they haven't done anything crazy. They
both they both in there. Both the guys when they
came in second hit a deep pass. Yeah, they made
all their they had a high completion rate. They hit
a deep pass, and they both did an interception. Now
I would say that I give both of them a
lot of leeway on each of those interceptions.
Speaker 5: Interceptions are going to happen.
Speaker 6: You don't want to see it, and especially like when
it's quarterback tight competition for the starting everything is overanalyzed like,
oh boy, is that the nail on the coffin there,
or he completes a pass with you he.
Speaker 4: Just I mean like you like you talked about because
so many people see that and they're like, in their mind,
it's just like interception, that's all you think. But you
were breaking it down last week, like the one that
Tyler shut through based off that coverage, that corner should
never be able to make that play. The corner had
a great individual effort and took a chance and he
went and made a play. Dove caught the ball ran
it back for a touchdown in this one for Spencer Rattler.
Right as a concept, they kind of ran a couple
of times before and it got him in the last time.
Speaker 2: I think they went back to the well won too
many times.
Speaker 4: And then also like if you're the quarterback, you want
the receiver to be way flatter than he actually was
and come across the DB's face. A dB where he
was would never make that interception if the receiver within
the concept came straight down the line across the DB's
face and it at least broke it up like and so.
And you could tell Spencer handled that actually really well
because I watched it and I was like, ooh, that's
on the receiver.
Speaker 2: That's not on the QB. His body language stay good.
Speaker 4: You could tell like he was having a conversation with
the receiver, but it never got to a point where
he was showing up because I'm sitting there thinking like.
Speaker 2: Oh, man, Flynn would have been mf and me.
Speaker 6: No doubt. But in a quarterback competition you do kind
of have to. Like body language is a big thing. Yeah,
it is, especially when you're trying to like be a
leader of a group, like you can't show Like we
always talked about body language. Everything shows up on tape
like bad. We call a BBO bad body language. J.
Speaker 4: Cutler level is always like the highest standard of the BBO.
So when I say cut level, I say it to
my I used to say it last year to my
fifth grade flag football team. I'd be like, hey, dude,
your your body language right now, your cut levels.
Speaker 2: You got to get it up.
Speaker 6: His body language was like looked like he's like the
equivalent of a used baby diaper. It was awful, disgusting,
disgusting body language. But yeah, everything, everything matters in that competition.
But like, yeah, the interception that shut through, it's a
timing throw, like you throw it before the guy makes
his break. And that's like from high school on, like
everybody has timing throws. So I give him a lot
of leeway on that interception. Yeah, sure, you'd like for
him to be able with his peripherals, like sense that
the guy is sitting, But it's like a one two three, Yeah,
you hit your back foot, you make the throat.
Speaker 5: The guy made a great play. I mean it's one
of those places.
Speaker 6: It's one of those plays like you go and you
look on the sideline like all right, next time we're
gonna hit him with the double move, like and and
we got them, Yeah, and then yeah, Rattler's yesterday.
Speaker 5: It's on the receiver. I mean it's yeah. Again.
Speaker 6: You'd like for the like a sixth sense to kick
in and maybe you throw it at the feed or something.
But it's one of those banks. Like, especially in the
red zone. Everything in the red zone happens faster. The
windows are tighter, so like you have to be a
little bit quicker with your decision making.
Speaker 5: You have to let it rip. You have to trust
a lot.
Speaker 6: You have to trust your receivers in the red zone
a lot that they are going to ultimately protect the
football no matter what, even if they don't catch it,
even if you don't score. They're going to protect the quarterback,
to protect the throat, knowing that the quarterback does have
to get it out of his hand like a split
second faster in the red zone because everything is in it.
Speaker 5: It's a lot.
Speaker 6: Everything's tighter, Like the windows tighter, the field is tighter.
You have to throw it, you have to throw it
quickly with more anticipation, and he's got to get flat.
I think Spencer handled the interview afterwards after the game
well too. They said, look, we had a little bit
of miscommunication, which tells me that he wasn't one hundred
percent sure what the play was potentially when he ran it,
and it just things are going fast game time. A
lot to learn from that. Yeah, but yeah, I mean
those are two interceptions. I'm like, all right, that goes
on the quarterback. Fine, I give it past the past
the shucks, there was a time you throw a preseason like.
Speaker 5: Okay, learn from that.
Speaker 6: You'll learn how to read a player's momentum, how at
flat foot if he's sitting.
Speaker 5: On it with your peripherals a little bit more.
Speaker 6: And then but the coaching points for the rattler throw
it is going to be in the wide receiver room.
That's going to be the main the main coaching there.
Speaker 4: And no, gosh, I think it was I think it
was our guy who had a hell of a game,
Mason Tipton.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he need to make the roster.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, he is for sure all the roster.
Speaker 4: I mean, shout out to Mason Tipton from yale O
case you hadn't heard on the broadcast. All right, we
will step away, uh you know, we're going to continue
breaking down the Saints and Jags also get into some
LSU training camp as they are obviously getting ready to
kind of shut training camp down, get to a regular
practice situation for the Clemson Tigers. We have all that
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oh TV one O four by ESPN bat Rouge. LSU
did have a scrimmage on Saturday night. It was it
was closed to the media and to.
Speaker 2: The public, so nothing to report. You know, maybe could
have made our way over there, but I had a wedding.
Speaker 4: And you know it's it's also closed again to all
all media outlets, and you and I had something prior engagement,
so we didn't head over there either. The one thing
about LSU right now, and look, things might end up like, oh,
this guy had a good day of the scrimmage and
that guy had a good day. And look, if we
get those notes, obviously we'll relate them to you.
Speaker 2: But the thing for LSU is, let's see, we are.
Speaker 4: Yep, not that long away from there, right, not this Saturday,
but next we all know that. Okay, so this week
and Matt correct me if if I missed speak on anything,
but I would say, if not today, then tomorrow or Wednesday.
Like it's no longer camp mindset. It is strictly getting
ready for Clemson mindset. You start to install the plays
that are going to be run against them, You install
the defense that is going to be used against k klubnick.
Speaker 2: You no longer.
Speaker 4: Maybe a period or two a day, like you'll go
good on good, like true turned up to eleven type stuff.
There's going to be scout team today, Tomorrow, Wednesday. Right,
there's going to be like your young guys who used
to be on the other field getting reps during camp,
Well they're now going to have on orange jerseys at
practice because like the intensity of a training camp practice
now that is that was left at Tiger Stadium probably
on Saturday night, and now it's all about getting ready
for your marquee top ten matchup on the road.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: All the the young QB.
Speaker 6: Cup guys right now, they're probably getting taught what Clemson
snap count is. Yeah, because I'd always have to learn
the other team's snap count and try to emulate it
as best I could.
Speaker 4: Did you ever play against Green Bay? It could play
against them? Yeah, did you have to do, Aaron? Yeah,
you weren't good enough.
Speaker 5: No, noah, No.
Speaker 4: When I was in Seattle, Aaron's got the best maybe
of all time.
Speaker 6: I was in Seattle and it was it was week
three we played. It was the game. It was a
Monday night football game where we had that year. We
had the backup refs. Oh it was that Mary.
Speaker 4: You were on Seattle for that, yep, sure was. Man,
were you apologizing to your old teammates?
Speaker 6: Well at that point, like I was, I was kind
of hoping somebody ahead of me would get pulled so
I could like yeah.
Speaker 5: I could go in. Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 6: I remember before that game, like I was mad at him,
right because I wouldn't I wouldn't start.
Speaker 5: This is early in the season, right. It got over it.
Eventually they're like, yeah, well tell us, like tell us
all the calls.
Speaker 6: Green Bay has, Like, nah.
Speaker 2: If you had caught me a week sixteen, you might
have got I was.
Speaker 5: I was a starter, yeah, man, for sure. No, I
like that.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying because Aaron's like snap count is elite.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is no, I would say if I was
probably the second elite.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're the backup.
Speaker 5: I was back up Lait for sure, he's back up
for a long time.
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. I hate this year.
Speaker 5: Nothing it does, you know what?
Speaker 2: You know what? You know what Clemson's snap count is?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, probably mind You're right. They don't learn. All
they do is clap like a bunch of idiots. There's
a clap everybody does, though I know everybody's an idiot,
so dumb. I can't wait to see what if North
Carolina Belichick that's a clap coump Yeah, probably not, probably not.
I just don't get it, Like everybody in the NFL
thinks it's dumb. Why does college think it's cool?
Speaker 5: Anyway?
Speaker 4: I wonder so if if I'm LSU and that I
always thought about this, like how I would format my
scout team. And I used to love the way that
coach Saban did it, where like I was I with
the ones, the one offense, I'd get my full back reps,
and then when the two offense would go, I would
run across to the other field to give the defense
a look at running back. And I used to like
one like he got me carries, like it kept my
vision sharp and all those type things. So like individually
for me, it was great, and I hope I was
given the defense a good look. But like, so you're
playing against the team's got a really good d line.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I've always been in the in the thought process kind
of do it like coach Saban used to do it.
And like if you're a guy that you're look, you're
gonna play for us against the Tigers in in Clemson,
but you're not gonna start. I need you this week
to give me some scout team because I need it.
Like if that's what they're going to be really good at.
I need to get our guys all week the best
possible look. I'm not saying go be Charlie, hustle out
there and get anybody hurt, but hey, you're going to
play about eight plays for us on defense, eight to
twelve plays on defense.
Speaker 2: But I need you.
Speaker 4: I need you this week, this week and a half
to give us the best possible look.
Speaker 6: For sure, you're at a like when you're at a
place like LSU, you have great young guys too, you
have a lot of talent, so you do get the
look but that is really what training camp is for,
because it's best on best it's been. You've been two
spotted all of training camp or for the most part
of training camp. I think we know the reports have
come out that a little bit more focused throughout off
season and training camp has been towards week one. So
I wouldn't be shocked if they've already done a few
scout team periods here and there at least and walk through,
maybe not wasting a time on the field, but from
a physical exertion standpoint, like, wait, we went out to practice.
It wasn't like the old school training camp days. It
looked like an end season practice a little bit. Yeah,
I know it was a shortened day, but I don't
I don't think a lot changes from when they flip
that mode from training camp over, except the only thing
that changes is the scout team periods. Is that two
spot drew. Everybody's going to kind of be on that
same field, working towards the same goal. Seeing those scout
team you know, whether it's a might be you might
be a defensive back and you might be playing a
little receiver on scout team that week, who knows. But
I think the focus has been a little bit more
pointed towards Clemson. So I just don't think that the
prices are going to change too too much. I think
they already kind of know what that game plan is,
and I think they've known what this game plan is
for for sure quite a while. And there's gonna be
some tweaks and things that they've learned in training camp
on what they may be able to do a little
bit better than they thought.
Speaker 5: And there's gonna be some things that they've learned.
Speaker 6: To practice that they might not be able to do
that they thought they could in the whether it's the
run game, passing game, on defense, whatever it is. So
you've learned a lot about your team and your personnel
at this point in camp. But I don't know how
much that's actually gonna change. But certainly that game mode
I believe would be flipped right now, Like, yeah, give me,
give me two weeks. I'm with you.
Speaker 2: So you're the team that's traveling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you don't technically lose something because you'll have
a walkthrough on Friday before you leave. But anytime you're traveling,
at least coaches and players like we always felt like
we were maybe there was a walk through. Maybe it
was thirty minutes. Maybe it's an hour that we missed
out that that other team got, which is it's kind
of dumb, but look, we're all meatheads. It's kind of
how we think. And so maybe you do get started.
Maybe it is as soon as today, Like it's full
game planning mode with maybe two periods of good on
good one versus one.
Speaker 6: I mean, what do you do and you have the
big scrimmage on Saturday. I would think that this week
gets treated a lot like a bye week. Would you
work your bye week schedule right now? Which is a
lot of what you said, It's it is good on good,
but it's also you're starting to implement that game plan
a little bit more. Man, what did we do for
years when we have the bye week and play Alabama
the next week? I'm sure we're talking a lot about
Alabama during that bye week. But then you're also going
to spend the end of that week kind of get
your legs under you, get a little bit of rest,
get a lot of treatment, get the body right, get
the mentals right, because the following week is going to
start back on that normal, normal game day, game week schedule.
Speaker 4: All right, we'll step away, continue breaking it all down.
We are in game week, you know, not for LSU,
not for the New Orleans Saints. But look, we've got
a set of games in college football, and so it
is game week in college football. How are the Tigers
getting ready for that game coming up in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 2: We'll continue to talk about that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the top three. You're gonna hear over the preseason.
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