Speaker 1: Six forty is later with mo Kelli alive everywhere on
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. We're continuing to monitor the events on
Speaker 1: the five Freeway, so if anything changes other than the obvious,
Speaker 1: like the traffic getting any better, will definitely let you know.
Speaker 1: Mark Ronner is following yet in the KFI twenty four
Speaker 1: hour newsroom will have periodic updates. But there's so much
Speaker 1: going on, not only in southern California, but the world.
Speaker 1: Now that Hurricane Milton has left the area, we can
Speaker 1: focus on some of the issues surrounding the hurricane. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that we are at the point here in
Speaker 1: America that meteor weather folks, I can't even say the
Speaker 1: word weather. Folks are getting death threats because these conspiracy
Speaker 1: theories regarding the hurricane, regarding FEMA, regarding what the government
Speaker 1: is telling us, it has now pushed people to the
Speaker 1: point of insanity. I don't know who to blame. I
Speaker 1: just know that America is in a very dangerous place
Speaker 1: right now. We can point to the two assassination attempts
Speaker 1: against former President Trump. You may not know this, but
Speaker 1: the offices of Kamala Harris have been shot up three
Speaker 1: times in one month. That's where we are in America
Speaker 1: because for whatever reasons, we see the other side as
Speaker 1: the enemy. And now we're trying to threaten the live
Speaker 1: of weather people because they're somehow part of the deep state.
Speaker 1: They are now lying to us. They are pushing some
Speaker 1: agenda of climate change.
Speaker 2: No, they're trying.
Speaker 3: To save you, so you don't die in your house
Speaker 3: because there is a hurricane not generated by the government,
Speaker 3: a hurricane over your head.
Speaker 2: How did we get here.
Speaker 3: We didn't get here overnight, but we walked ourselves right
Speaker 3: up to this moment.
Speaker 2: We have forgotten the value of truth.
Speaker 1: We have forgotten the value of facts, and now we
Speaker 1: want to curate our world to fit our worldview. You
Speaker 1: didn't catch that we want to curate our world to
Speaker 1: fit our worldview, and this is what happens. We get angry. Then,
Speaker 1: when presented with facts, we get angry. When presented with weather,
Speaker 1: we get angry. And presented with the idea that the
Speaker 1: government does have a role to play in the management
Speaker 1: and protection of this nation, we're arguing back and forth
Speaker 1: about whether a vice president has any business calling calling
Speaker 1: the governor of a state, because somehow that's political. And
Speaker 1: if I had more time, I would detail all the
Speaker 1: ways that vice presidents usually do involve themselves when they're
Speaker 1: national issues, emergencies, disasters, because that is a person of
Speaker 1: the administration. The president may do one thing, the vice
Speaker 1: president may do another thing. But now everything's looked through
Speaker 1: the lens of politics. Everything is looked through some sort
Speaker 1: of conspiracy lens. I never thought in my life, and
Speaker 1: I hope that people don't take this as some sort
Speaker 1: of partisan comment, But I've never thought that I would
Speaker 1: ever experience a time in my life where a sitting
Speaker 1: member of Congress would allege that her own government, that
Speaker 1: she's a part of, mind you, her own government is
Speaker 1: somehow controlling the weather to the detriment of particular individuals
Speaker 1: of a certain party. I never, in my fifty four
Speaker 1: years of life would ever think that that would be
Speaker 1: a reality. But that's where we are today, and some
Speaker 1: people listening right now are aokay with it. If it's you,
Speaker 1: then it's you. But how did we get here? How
Speaker 1: do we get to the point where facts no longer matter?
Speaker 1: How do we get here to the point that we
Speaker 1: feel the need that if we don't like the political opposition,
Speaker 1: we need to take that person out. How do we
Speaker 1: get here. No, the actual the better question, the more
Speaker 1: important question is how do we get back from here?
Speaker 2: How do we go back to some sense of normality.
Speaker 1: How do we get to a point where we have
Speaker 1: a level or a modicum of respect for one another
Speaker 1: as Americans? Because maybe you didn't know there's an election
Speaker 1: around the corner and someone has to win and someone
Speaker 1: has to lose. God help us all when we find
Speaker 1: out who is who and what is what?
Speaker 2: Because I don't know if we'll be able to make
Speaker 2: it through this election.
Speaker 1: We can't even make it through two hurricanes in two weeks.
Speaker 2: But we're supposed to make it through an election.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to cast our vote and then trust that
Speaker 1: we can be adult enough and mature enough to accept
Speaker 1: the results. Or are we going to just assume if
Speaker 1: our person loses, oh well, it must be cheating. You know,
Speaker 1: it must be fixed, It must be rigged. You know,
Speaker 1: what's the point of voting? And then you take matters
Speaker 1: into your own hands and you shoot up someone's campaign
Speaker 1: offices or you take a shot at the at the
Speaker 1: candidate him or herself. And now we're taking making threats
Speaker 1: at whether people because that's where we are in America,
Speaker 1: and I would hope that you're not okay with it.
Speaker 2: You know how they say it's okay to not be okay.
Speaker 1: Well, America needs to come to the realization that we
Speaker 1: are not okay.
Speaker 2: We are simply not okay.
Speaker 1: We're not in our right mind, we are not healthy,
Speaker 1: we're not in a good place. We're not able to
Speaker 1: deal with the simple stuff, and a really sophisticated, difficult,
Speaker 1: complicated stuff is coming on November fifth and then November sixth, seventh, eighth,
Speaker 1: Because contrary to what you've been told, almost never is
Speaker 1: the president decided election night. Now it is a projected
Speaker 1: winner the night of the election, but voting and tabulation
Speaker 1: in counting that.
Speaker 2: Has always gone on for days.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into all the statistical math,
Speaker 1: but projections are not actually determining the winner. But if
Speaker 1: you know statistics, you can tell oh, okay, you know
Speaker 1: they are only four hundred and thirty five thousand registered voters.
Speaker 2: We know what returns have.
Speaker 1: Not come in from this county in that county, and
Speaker 1: historically they're Republican or they're historically they're democratic, and so
Speaker 1: therefore we project that so and so is the winner
Speaker 1: of this state.
Speaker 2: Maybe didn't know that's how it's done.
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't know that certain states are allowed to
Speaker 1: count in mail in ballots prior to election day and
Speaker 1: some have to wait until election day, and that's part
Speaker 1: of the reason why it takes the extra day or
Speaker 1: two or even three or four days. Do we really
Speaker 1: love America or do we really just hate the other side?
Speaker 2: It's not the same thing.
Speaker 1: You can't say I love America, but I hate the Republicans.
Speaker 2: No, that just means you love Democrats.
Speaker 1: I love America, but I can't stand the Democrats.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, that doesn't mean you love America.
Speaker 3: It just means that you just love Republicans and you're
Speaker 3: trying to use that as proxy. Wow, you really believe
Speaker 3: and really feel we are at a dangerous point in
Speaker 3: this country. And I cannot underscore that enough.
Speaker 1: Because the moment you think that the weather people are
Speaker 1: out to get you, the weather people, noah, people trying
Speaker 1: to protect you from hurricanes, They're in on the conspiracy.
Speaker 2: They're the ones trying.
Speaker 1: To kill you, along with the federal government with their
Speaker 1: weather machine.
Speaker 2: You know what. That's straight out of a movie. You
Speaker 2: talked about, the movie The Core.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, In the movie The Core, the government had
Speaker 1: this earthquake machine, and because they were using an earthquake machine,
Speaker 1: it made the core of the earth stop spinning.
Speaker 3: That's where we are now. We're just making it all up.
Speaker 3: Anything we don't want, just blame the other side. The
Speaker 3: sun didn't come out today, it's the Democrat's fault. It
Speaker 3: rained too much today. Well, it's the Republican's fault. I
Speaker 3: trust the results of election. Why because my guy's in office.
Speaker 3: I don't trust the results of this election. Why because
Speaker 3: they're guys in office. I say this with great sincerity.
Speaker 1: I love America with all my heart, but this is
Speaker 1: the dumbest place on the face of the earth.
Speaker 2: Two things can be true.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 1: And cities all around the state. They're getting tougher when
Speaker 1: it comes to homelessness. They're getting tougher when it comes
Speaker 1: to homeless people. Two different things. There's homelessness, how they're
Speaker 1: dealing with the trash, the garbage, the tents all I
Speaker 1: will say, the makeshift cities. And there's getting tough on
Speaker 1: homeless the people. Anaheim is now banning homeless people from
Speaker 1: occupying sidewalks and bus benches. That's one of three laws
Speaker 1: which were approved by the Anaheim City Council at their
Speaker 1: meeting earlier this week. This is as it's being described
Speaker 1: as preventing the city's homeless population from blocking public spaces.
Speaker 2: There are two things to this.
Speaker 1: Whereas I think most people would agree with the idea
Speaker 1: that you just can't sleep any and everywhere, you just
Speaker 1: can't lay down and block public spaces. The question that
Speaker 1: I've always asked and I haven't really gotten a clear
Speaker 1: and concise answer. Maybe next time Orange County DA Todd
Speaker 1: Spitzer comes on the show, he can tell me this.
Speaker 1: If he's listening right now, what do you do with
Speaker 1: the homeless person? It's one thing to say you cannot
Speaker 1: sleep here, you cannot leave your belongings here in these
Speaker 1: public spaces. It is now illegal. Okay, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: You cite the person? Is it like a violation of
Speaker 1: an ordinance and civic ordinance? Are you going to arrest
Speaker 1: the person? If you arrest the person, let's see this
Speaker 1: through to its logical conclusion. If you arrest the person,
Speaker 1: how does that person get out of jail? Can that
Speaker 1: person post bail? Probably not. Why say it with me? Homeless?
Speaker 1: How do we actually get to the heart of the issue.
Speaker 1: As I said, the new law will make lying down
Speaker 1: or sleeping on bus or park benches, or blocking driveways
Speaker 1: or entrances to businesses where the public is invited illegal. Emotionally,
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent something like this needs to
Speaker 1: be done. I always question the administration how it's going
Speaker 1: to be done. Nobody wants to have to step over
Speaker 1: homeless people just trying to go to the store. Or
Speaker 1: if you have your own business and you happen to
Speaker 1: be on let's say a kattella in Anaheim, you should
Speaker 1: be able to do something about the homeless person who's
Speaker 1: sleeping in front of your business, in front of the
Speaker 1: very door that people need to come in.
Speaker 2: And come out. I agree.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking like, all right, this sounds good, but
Speaker 1: how exactly does it work out? And this is I
Speaker 1: would say, an expansion of what was already in place
Speaker 1: Anaheim's current laws. They already prohibit camping. Put that in
Speaker 1: air quotes camping on public property. But these laws did
Speaker 1: not specifically bar people from blocking public right of ways
Speaker 1: and businesses. There was a gray area between camping and living.
Speaker 1: There was a gray area between camping and sittying, resting loitering,
Speaker 1: and this made it somewhat clearer, and I did not
Speaker 1: know this. The second law, which was passed by the
Speaker 1: city council, it will now not allow people to either
Speaker 1: disassemble or sell bicycles in public areas within the city.
Speaker 1: I did not know that there was a bike theft
Speaker 1: issue within the city of Anaheim. About two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty bikes, as I read here, are reported stolen each
Speaker 1: year in Anaheim, so there is I would say, a
Speaker 1: thriving market for bicycles and bicycle parts, and this is
Speaker 1: to help address that or curb that. Obviously, if they're
Speaker 1: not going to do it in public, then they'll just
Speaker 1: go inside and do it. It doesn't change that, but
Speaker 1: it's interesting that they're resorting to this to help address that.
Speaker 1: And the third law will expand the city smoking and
Speaker 1: vaping ban to public parks and to within twenty five
Speaker 1: feet of bus benches or one hundred feet from a
Speaker 1: school or daycare. Don't feel much of either way about that,
Speaker 1: because I've always been anti smoking, anti vaping, but the
Speaker 1: ban on people sleeping on sidewalks or leaving their belongings
Speaker 1: in public spaces. That's significant and I am really curious
Speaker 1: to see how it all works. Is it something that
Speaker 1: if someone's in front of your business, do you pick
Speaker 1: up the phone and call the police?
Speaker 2: And also do the police actually respond?
Speaker 1: Because I know where I am, I could call them
Speaker 1: for just about anything, and it takes a lot to
Speaker 1: get law enforcement to respond where I am in the city.
Speaker 1: Usually I have to call someone I know who works
Speaker 1: in law enforcement, because if you live where I live.
Speaker 2: They're not coming out for the most part.
Speaker 1: They're just not, especially for property crime related issues, definitely
Speaker 1: not for homeless related issues. So I would love to
Speaker 1: see how this is going to actually work.
Speaker 2: Take us through it.
Speaker 1: Does a person who owns a business, do they call
Speaker 1: the police and the police roll up and they see
Speaker 1: someone on the sidewalk? Do they arrest them? Do they
Speaker 1: just move that person along? And if they do arrest them,
Speaker 1: then what do you do? I mean, how can you
Speaker 1: verify identity? They may not be in the system. How
Speaker 1: long can you hold them? Habeas corpus? Okay, so what
Speaker 1: happens if they stay for more than three days in jail?
Speaker 2: You got to kick them loose.
Speaker 1: Then where do they go again, if they go right
Speaker 1: back to where they were living air quotes prior to
Speaker 1: being arrested. If it goes down that same path, then
Speaker 1: what do you arrest them again and start the clock
Speaker 1: all the way over. I think these are the things
Speaker 1: where the laws make sense on paper. I absolutely agree
Speaker 1: it makes sense. You can't have people sleeping on the sidewalk.
Speaker 3: You can't have people creating a house in front of
Speaker 3: other people's businesses.
Speaker 2: You can't have that.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, we agree, But how does this work
Speaker 1: long term?
Speaker 2: What is the real application of it?
Speaker 1: How do you make sure that the rights of the
Speaker 1: homeless person aren't also violated?
Speaker 2: Or do you simply not care?
Speaker 3: And I suspect this the latter, because you just don't
Speaker 3: want to see homelessness. If you can get it out
Speaker 3: in front of get it away from your business, if
Speaker 3: you can get it away from your street corner, if
Speaker 3: you can get it out of sight, then it's out
Speaker 3: of mind, then you're okay with it. But I try
Speaker 3: to think about this big picture. I try to think
Speaker 3: about your rights as a business owner. I think about
Speaker 3: your rights as a private citizen, and I think about
Speaker 3: the rights of the homeless person.
Speaker 1: Because if anything. They are the most vulnerable in this equation.
Speaker 1: They have literally nothing. They literally have nobody defending them
Speaker 1: or protecting them, not out of this, not out on
Speaker 1: the street, and not within the system. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's a good answer to any of this.
Speaker 1: I do know that they're there are some problems that
Speaker 1: haven't been worked out, and I would be interested to
Speaker 1: see if they will be able to be addressed in
Speaker 1: a constitutional manner, because once you start criminalizing homelessness and
Speaker 1: you start locking up homeless people, you may have traded
Speaker 1: one issue for another. It's later with mo Keli k If.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Mark got another good story for you. There's a
Speaker 3: California based lighting and furniture store, Lamps Plus. They're gonna
Speaker 3: have to pay four point one million for deceptive pricing.
Speaker 3: Imagine that another another company misleading the public. Sounds like
Speaker 3: science fiction. You're making this up. It sounds like science capitalism.
Speaker 1: That's right, We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I think we're misplacing our distrust if they are folks
Speaker 1: that we should not trust, if they're folks that really
Speaker 1: don't have our best interests at heart, and also have
Speaker 1: some degree of influence over our lives. I would say
Speaker 1: it's capitalism, it's businesses. And I'm not demonizing businesses. I'm
Speaker 1: saying they have more influence on your day to day
Speaker 1: lives than your government, if only because you're interacting with
Speaker 1: them businesses on a daily basis. You're going to the
Speaker 1: grocery store, you may go to the hardware store, or
Speaker 1: you may go buy a car, or you.
Speaker 2: May buy some gifts at the mall.
Speaker 1: You are interacting in a capitalistic sense just about every
Speaker 1: single day, probably not doing too much with your local
Speaker 1: or federal government. So, if anything, if you have businesses,
Speaker 1: and there are some, and I'm not broad brushing, but
Speaker 1: if you have businesses or who are going to take
Speaker 1: advantage of that relationship. And we talked about Kroger, and
Speaker 1: we talked about Albertson's taking advantage of that relationship because
Speaker 1: you need to buy groceries. What happens? Then let me
Speaker 1: talk now about Lamps Plus. Lamps Plus is going to
Speaker 1: have to pay more than four million dollars to settle
Speaker 1: a civil lawsuit.
Speaker 2: And it's just the first one.
Speaker 1: It may be more if other people come forward in filesuit.
Speaker 1: But in this civil lawsuit, they were accused of deceptive
Speaker 1: price and false advertising. Allegedly, lamps Plus advertised fault sales,
Speaker 1: false discounts, misleading price match guarantees, and deceptive comparisons of
Speaker 1: its prices to competitors.
Speaker 2: Sound familiar, it should.
Speaker 1: The settlement, which was agreed to back on September twentieth,
Speaker 1: requires the company to pay almost four million in civil
Speaker 1: penalties and another three hundred thousand four investigative investigative costs.
Speaker 2: Labs Plus is also prohibited from engaging in future misleading
Speaker 2: or false advertising, including advertising a misleading price match guarantee
Speaker 2: or offering a one hundred and twenty percent price protection policy.
Speaker 2: And as I hate to admit once again Mark Ronner
Speaker 2: being right, I think it's only fair that I acknowledge
Speaker 2: that the preponderance of evidence once again lands on your
Speaker 2: side of the argument when it comes to greed of
Speaker 2: corporate America.
Speaker 3: Are you sure you don't want to just take the
Speaker 3: devil's advocate side and argue in favor of cheating people
Speaker 3: just for fun, just for fun.
Speaker 1: Look, I could play the other side of the argument.
Speaker 1: I just can't find the other side of the argument
Speaker 1: to play. I see, I can't say Devil's advocate, Well,
Speaker 1: what about this or what about that? No, this is
Speaker 1: another example of a corporation taking advantage of consumers, and
Speaker 1: it's being done, I will say, under the cover of inflation,
Speaker 1: when you're offering false discounts because you know people are
Speaker 1: more desperate for lower prices.
Speaker 3: On I gotta do this for you, caveat emptor you
Speaker 3: got the free the invisible hand of the free market
Speaker 3: that just winds up spank and everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do it either. You're right, it's not supply,
Speaker 1: it's not demand. It's knowing that because people are more
Speaker 1: sensitive to the idea of discounts to the ideas of sales.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not new. I would just call
Speaker 1: this old bait and switch. You know they're promising one thing,
Speaker 1: they'll offer you another thing. Or what they're promising you
Speaker 1: was never there in the first place.
Speaker 2: Now do fast food? Well, now do McDonald's. Which way?
Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about how they've raised their
Speaker 1: prices having little or nothing to do with the actual
Speaker 1: raise of minimum wage.
Speaker 3: That's it, grasshopper, It's all related. It's all the same thing.
Speaker 3: So what if we learn class. Woah wah wah, greed
Speaker 3: is good.
Speaker 2: Where's Gordon Geko when you need him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that didn't hold up so well. Except
Speaker 3: for a small hand full of nasty people. The rest
Speaker 3: of us, when it comes to the greed is good aphorism,
Speaker 3: we get screwed.
Speaker 1: The thing is, we would we would like to think
Speaker 1: of ourselves as the ultra successful. We want to buy
Speaker 1: into the idea that if we buy into greed, we
Speaker 1: will also have a disproportionate amount of success.
Speaker 2: This is what I think it is.
Speaker 1: We want to identify with super wealthy people, but more
Speaker 1: times than not, we're not going to be that person.
Speaker 1: And so we're left complaining about the rent, We're left
Speaker 1: complaining about eggs, left complaining about milk gas and all
Speaker 1: at the same time, forget that, Oh, we were siding
Speaker 1: with the folks who are giving it to us.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, landlords have been found colluding to jack up prices. Yep,
Speaker 3: we know that egg distributors manufacturers. Brother the chickens are
Speaker 3: actually the manufacturers eggs, but the egg distributors they've been
Speaker 3: found guilty of jacking up prices. Everybody on the list
Speaker 3: you just ran through has been found guilty of price
Speaker 3: gouging everybody.
Speaker 2: That's why I mentioned them specifically. What a coincidence?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, look, I just try to point I just
Speaker 1: try to say, look, some of these things are not
Speaker 1: what they seem to be. And I know it's easy
Speaker 1: to blame everything on inflation. I know it's easy to
Speaker 1: say that it's just not true because there is still
Speaker 1: a decision making process that businesses are making here. They
Speaker 1: are not raising prices relative to the cost of living
Speaker 1: increase or the rate of inflation. No, there record profits
Speaker 1: in this time of inflation.
Speaker 2: Well, we have to.
Speaker 3: One of my main goals in life is to get
Speaker 3: people to shake off the cookie cutter that we've been
Speaker 3: saddled with through disinformation and assorted media, which is not
Speaker 3: everything has to be filtered through your politics. I mean,
Speaker 3: if the groceries cost more than you think they should be,
Speaker 3: it's not the Republicans or Democrats fault necessarily, look at
Speaker 3: the people who profit qui bono, it's what lawyerspono who
Speaker 3: profits from this.
Speaker 1: I think your first point was the most salient point.
Speaker 1: Stop trying to filter everything through your politics. When you do,
Speaker 1: you always come up with the same answer. If you
Speaker 1: filter it through your politics, and everything must be the
Speaker 1: fault of the person or the group or the party
Speaker 1: which is anti your politics, And then you'll find yourself
Speaker 1: misleading yourself. You're not even being misled, you're misleading yourself
Speaker 1: because you're making the conscious choice to filter everything through
Speaker 1: your politics and see the world through this prism of.
Speaker 3: Right or left. It's a childish game. Everything you don't
Speaker 3: like is the fault of the other team. And sometimes
Speaker 3: it is sometimes, but it certainly isn't always. And you've
Speaker 3: got to drill down and get out of your information silo.
Speaker 3: Read a variety of things, be a smart and skeptical
Speaker 3: consumer of news as well as you're a consumer of
Speaker 3: anything else.
Speaker 1: Well, you can't start with what you already believe and
Speaker 1: look for affirmation or confirmation of what you already believe.
Speaker 1: You can't use that as a starting point where Okay,
Speaker 1: gas prices are high, let me work my way back
Speaker 1: from the Democrats are responsible. That's not a way to
Speaker 1: actually process information and figure out who might the culprit be.
Speaker 3: No, you're exactly right, and once again I despise when
Speaker 3: we agree. Okay, let's see if we can disagree about
Speaker 3: the next one. Okay, okay, it's about the Dodgers and Padres.
Speaker 3: You're not a sports fan, so there we go. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's all yours.
Speaker 1: It's Later with Mo Kelly ca if I AM six forty,
Speaker 1: we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: When we come back.
Speaker 1: You know that the Dodgers and Padres are playing in
Speaker 1: Game five here at Dodger Stadium tomorrow. Well, if you're
Speaker 1: trying to go to the game and you haven't already
Speaker 1: purchased your tickets, or even if you have purchasing tickets,
Speaker 1: beware because the scammers are out and they're looking for you.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna let you know sometimes I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: very transparent here and Steph and I know you don't
Speaker 1: know this, and I know Mark doesn't know this. If
Speaker 1: I open my mouth too fast, I think they call
Speaker 1: a subluxation of the jaw. My jaw dislocates. There's certain
Speaker 1: words almost impossible for me to pronounce for that reason.
Speaker 1: So there are times where I can't say certain words
Speaker 1: because my jaw will almost dislocate if I talk too fast.
Speaker 1: True story, true story. So there's certain words I just
Speaker 1: tried to avoid. And if you were to, if you
Speaker 1: were like to come into the studio Steph and I
Speaker 1: show you and you see my jaw pop out, and
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to see that, but and
Speaker 1: you can hear it click. So that's why I struggle
Speaker 1: with certain words, because my jaw really hurts when I
Speaker 1: try to say it. And I know admitting that in
Speaker 1: front of Mark Roner is going to come back on me, but.
Speaker 2: I do want to see it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll show you next break. Serious, Yeah, it's not cool.
Speaker 1: Did you see that? Did you see that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're kind of like a boa constrictor. Yes, I
Speaker 2: always suspected it's my hidden superpower talent. I don't know.
Speaker 1: No, my dentist tells me be careful opening your mouth
Speaker 1: too wide or yawning too fast, because it can dislocate
Speaker 1: your job.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no, don't listen to him. That
Speaker 3: will serve you well in prison. Ooh ooh, ooh oh wow.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Dodgers instead. That wasn't no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: wasn't funny, oh no, completely warranted. Thank you, Dodgers, Padres
Speaker 3: playing tomorrow Dodger Stadium, and you're probably thinking.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, there was no way that Dodgers are supposed.
Speaker 1: To win Game four, but you're surprised and now you're
Speaker 1: scrambling for tickets. That puts you in a very dangerous situation.
Speaker 1: Why because you might be desperate and willing to resort
Speaker 1: to methods to procure tickets which could get you separated
Speaker 1: from your money and you not get any tickets in return.
Speaker 1: There are scammers everywhere. If there's money out there, there's
Speaker 1: money changing hands, scammers, thieves, criminals, they'll want to get
Speaker 1: your money. If you're going to get tickets, make sure
Speaker 1: you just follow some just good common sense. Just buy
Speaker 1: from trusted vendors. Use websites like verified ticketsource dot com,
Speaker 1: and there you can verify that wherever you're buying the.
Speaker 2: Tickets is a licensed ticket reseller.
Speaker 1: Stub Hub and Ticketmaster just for example, not promoting them,
Speaker 1: but they offer guarantees against fraudulent listings.
Speaker 2: Also use protected payment methods.
Speaker 1: If you pay in cash, zell or by a wire transfer,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to get that money. Once it's gone,
Speaker 1: it's gone because when you pay in cash, obviously it's
Speaker 1: gone zell and wire transfer, though those are actual changes
Speaker 1: or exchanges of money, so once it leaves your bank,
Speaker 1: it's just gone. That's why a lot of people recommend
Speaker 1: using a credit card. Yes, I know you don't want
Speaker 1: to pay the interest on it, but if you use
Speaker 1: a credit card, you have greater consumer protection as opposed
Speaker 1: to using a debit card. And I'm guilty of this
Speaker 1: because I use my debit card everywhere and they always
Speaker 1: tell me, don't use your debit card. Well, okay, but
Speaker 1: you know I don't like using a credit card because
Speaker 1: I don't like paying fees or interests. I like what
Speaker 1: I pay is what I pay, and I don't have
Speaker 1: to think about it. I just finally recently got the
Speaker 1: first credit card I've had in I want to say,
Speaker 1: maybe twenty twenty five years, because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: have credit card debt and it was just for emergencies
Speaker 1: and things that I didn't want to use cash for.
Speaker 1: But it's good to have around just for emergencies. But anyhow,
Speaker 1: back to ticket scam. Also look for a refund policy
Speaker 1: if you're making a transaction and the details are not
Speaker 1: clear or you're unsure about what recourse you have in
Speaker 1: the event of a questionable transaction, then that means no,
Speaker 1: it's probably shady. Walk the other way. Do not buy
Speaker 1: off Facebook. Okay, now I know that they have the
Speaker 1: Facebook marketplace. It is one step above Craigslist. It's Craigslist
Speaker 1: with pictures. That's all it is. People have died, people
Speaker 1: have been murdered buying things off Craigslist. There's a reason
Speaker 1: why no one ever recommends buying off Craigslist. It's the
Speaker 1: same reason that I'm telling you not to buy off Facebook.
Speaker 1: Fake profiles, fake product that they're selling. No, it's not
Speaker 1: like Amazon. There's not like the seller verified. You know,
Speaker 1: it is really really seedy. So leave Facebook alone, and
Speaker 1: you know, follow just the old rule. If it's too
Speaker 1: good to be true, it probably is too good to
Speaker 1: be true any more jaw jokes, Mark.
Speaker 3: No, I want to see it again though, and preferably
Speaker 3: I'd like to film it.
Speaker 2: For later use.
Speaker 1: You have to put a microphone you can hear it pop.
Speaker 1: Oh even better. Yeah, you're almost like it's like breaking.
Speaker 1: Have you never bought anything from Craigslist?
Speaker 2: Never in my life. Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 3: You meet whoever you buy the stuff from, in a
Speaker 3: well lit public place. You examine the thing at hand
Speaker 3: before you hand over the money.
Speaker 2: It's like a drug deal. Yeah, it totally is.
Speaker 1: You have to meet somewhere where they you know, there's
Speaker 1: less likelihood of being shot.
Speaker 3: Meet on the steps of your local police precinct.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I've never purchased anything off Craigslist in my life.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I've bumped around Craigslist to see what it's like, but
Speaker 1: I've never ever purchased off Craigslist.
Speaker 3: I've done it quite a number of times, and you
Speaker 3: really have to keep your wits about you. Don't be
Speaker 3: stupid about it. Have they updated the.
Speaker 1: Website at all or does it look the same as
Speaker 1: it did in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2: It looks exactly the same.
Speaker 3: It's pretty low tech, and you know, half the stuff
Speaker 3: that I bookmark on there, I'll return to it a
Speaker 3: few hours later and the thing's been flagged and removed.
Speaker 3: You always have to be careful.
Speaker 1: Look, if they flag and remove something from Craigslist, it
Speaker 1: has to be pretty bad. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: have any standards whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, whether it's a PlayStation or you know, an
Speaker 3: apartment rental, do your due diligence. Don't just make a
Speaker 3: deal and hand over your cash.
Speaker 1: Ever, it took me a long time to get comfortable
Speaker 1: with eBay, and this was in the early days of eBay,
Speaker 1: before they really tighten it up had the product guarantee
Speaker 1: money back guaranteed. Now eBay is a very good place
Speaker 1: to shop for things.
Speaker 3: It is, and I know Marsha Collier, but I've got
Speaker 3: a massive eBay hiss. And during the early days of it,
Speaker 3: I got took yeah a couple of times because you know,
Speaker 3: PayPal wasn't as widely in use. You send somebody a check,
Speaker 3: maybe you'll get your thing, maybe you won't. You'll learn
Speaker 3: the hard way.
Speaker 1: I I think I've been using eBay for the better
Speaker 1: part of almost twenty years now, somewhere around there, and
Speaker 1: I actually preferred eBay to Amazon because the more obscure
Speaker 1: things that I was looking for I could find on eBay.
Speaker 2: Like you can't, like, what are we talking about here.
Speaker 1: I'll say there was a song that I wanted which
Speaker 1: was out of print and it was not available to
Speaker 1: stream on Spotify. I actually bought a CD version of
Speaker 1: the music off of eBay.
Speaker 3: For example. Of really obscure things, Well, some things you
Speaker 3: can only get on eBay, but you still want to check.
Speaker 3: If you see something on eBay, look on Amazon get Yeah,
Speaker 3: if it exists on there, you'll see you'll get a
Speaker 3: base idea of what the price should be. Sometimes it's cheaper,
Speaker 3: sometimes it's not. Always do your homework, never just make
Speaker 3: an impulse buy. Amazon has turned into a mall, a
Speaker 3: big box retailer. For the most part, you feel safe
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 1: You can you walk in the store, you walk out
Speaker 1: with the item pretty much because you get it the
Speaker 1: next day.
Speaker 3: There are checks every step of the way. It's easy
Speaker 3: to follow. Yeah, and it's kind of like getting shoes
Speaker 3: at a Nordstrom. If if anything at all you don't like,
Speaker 3: you can return it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's much safer now. And I used to
Speaker 3: work at Nordstrom. Thatte no, that return policy is legit.
Speaker 3: We had people, and I worked at the North Strum
Speaker 3: and Redondo Beach is no longer there, they moved it
Speaker 3: to Dilamo, but the one uh redonald Beach on Hawthorne
Speaker 3: Boulevard at the South Bay Galleria. I worked in third
Speaker 3: floor girls department like two T, three T, four T Toddler.
Speaker 3: I knew all that stuff, but we had people and
Speaker 3: the return policy was we'll take no questions asked. Don't
Speaker 3: even ask a question, because that was against the policy.
Speaker 3: You're basically offending the person returning that tire. We had
Speaker 3: someone return a car tire, let me say, we'll take it.
Speaker 3: Don't ask why these shoes are covered with human blood, yes,
Speaker 3: or if it's human.
Speaker 1: They The thinking was, and this was mid to late eighties,
Speaker 1: early nineties, that they would get more business out of
Speaker 1: that person in the long run if they just accepted
Speaker 1: the return. And now I don't know if they still
Speaker 1: have that same return policy, but it was. It was
Speaker 1: so liberal, small l You could return absolutely anything in
Speaker 1: the world, and people were They were just taking stuff
Speaker 1: out their closet and returning it. Now it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different when you have all the Skew numbers and
Speaker 1: the digital references for all these products. It's a little
Speaker 1: bit easier to track. And I don't think there is
Speaker 1: eager just to take everything. I think Costco takes more
Speaker 1: stuff the Nordstrom.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, but Costco has a line and you've gotta
Speaker 3: do the cost benefit analysis.
Speaker 2: You've gotta work for it. That line is pretty far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta really want to take something back to
Speaker 3: endure that line at Costco.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because basically, you're paying through your time. You're paying
Speaker 1: for that good. Now you may return it, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna pay for it.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and a lot of people don't figure
Speaker 3: that when they're when they're doing the math in their head,
Speaker 3: they don't figure in the time equation.
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