Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs roll along tonight, Midtown Manhattan is the scene.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be chaos, probably already is. It'll be six
Speaker 1: o'clock Mountain time. The New York Knicks will try to
Speaker 1: advance to the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time
Speaker 1: since the year two thousand, when they played the Indiana Pacers, who,
Speaker 1: ironically enough, are awaiting the winner of next of Knick Celtics.
Speaker 2: All right, big day for our next guest.
Speaker 1: I understand that Craig Bowler Jack is turning forty five
Speaker 1: years old today on this Friday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Bowler, Happy birthday, sir. How are we doing?
Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy. Hey, you know that's a nice that's
Speaker 3: a nice birthday present. There, pal, I got allergies. Is
Speaker 3: spring summertime. But other than that, I'm good. Yeah, forty
Speaker 3: you're off a year forty four.
Speaker 2: Oh my bad, my bad.
Speaker 1: Well you don't look a day over forty, my friend,
Speaker 1: you've taken good care of yourself.
Speaker 2: So happy birthday, Craig, from all of us.
Speaker 3: All to you. Okay, appreciate that, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We got any plans tonight? What do we got going on?
Speaker 1: What we got cooking for the birthday?
Speaker 3: I tell you, I'll be honest man, kind of laying
Speaker 3: low of families everywhere this way and that may do
Speaker 3: something Sunday, but I know I'm going to be watching
Speaker 3: some basketball. I'll tell you that I've loved the playoffs incredible.
Speaker 3: I like the physicality, the comebacks leads me nothing free
Speaker 3: throws last night and a lot for Denver and tonight.
Speaker 3: You just said it. I don't know. What do you think?
Speaker 3: Twenty five years since the Pacers and the Knicks met
Speaker 3: in the conference final? Interesting? Huh yeah?
Speaker 1: Very interesting, And as a unbiased basketball observer.
Speaker 2: I think the Knicks probably get it done.
Speaker 1: As a longtime Nick fan, as this team has led
Speaker 1: me down year after years since I was ten years old,
Speaker 1: I'm very nervous.
Speaker 2: Greg.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not alone. I'm sure you know it's crazy
Speaker 3: and that New York just had that something happened, and
Speaker 3: you know better than I do that the no fan
Speaker 3: ever felt like it was in the bag. You know,
Speaker 3: so many disappointments. They're involved in another interesting draft night,
Speaker 3: you know scenario that Patrick Ewing came to the Knicks
Speaker 3: on what was allegedly a frozen or a bit frozen
Speaker 3: draft card. If I'm not mistaken. It's been a while,
Speaker 3: run man, a lot of a lot of basketball, a
Speaker 3: lot of players, a lot of have come and gone,
Speaker 3: but to what a pretty good team. I think with
Speaker 3: Tatum out, this has got to go. W Man at
Speaker 3: the Garden, I would think. But we've been proven wrong before.
Speaker 2: I hope you're right.
Speaker 1: And since you brought up lottery and draft day malfeasans
Speaker 1: and things that are questioned by the general public, I
Speaker 1: just got to know, Craig, where were you and what
Speaker 1: was your reaction when you saw Mark Tatum pull out
Speaker 1: the envelope and the Jazz were set to draft at five?
Speaker 3: You know what, honest, I walked in my office and said,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to shut the door and watch this,
Speaker 3: so you know, if I want to say yeah, I can,
Speaker 3: or if I want to go damn, I can't. You know.
Speaker 3: I just sat there, put my hands and you know,
Speaker 3: underneath my chin, I said, all right, let's see what happens.
Speaker 3: And my gut was rolling and I thought I got
Speaker 3: a feeling after all the talk and all the numbers
Speaker 3: and you know, all the percentages that the five spot's
Speaker 3: going to be the Jazz, and it just rolled up
Speaker 3: and there it was and I just stared and thought, wow,
Speaker 3: how does that happen? And then I got up and
Speaker 3: told the wife and said, let's go have dinner because
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to sit around here and just you know,
Speaker 3: hit my head against the wall. You know, seventeen win season,
Speaker 3: worse than Jazz franchise history. Dallas trades away Luca in
Speaker 3: the dark of night, Kyrie blows up, ACL fans nearly
Speaker 3: riot in Dallas Spence, as you know, and they end
Speaker 3: up getting number one, and the Jazz dropped down, you know,
Speaker 3: to to number five. And it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: But in a way nothing does. You take a chance
Speaker 3: when you alleged or you go the tank position, you know,
Speaker 3: let's tank it. And what's interesting two Spence. All three
Speaker 3: of the teams that had the first the top three
Speaker 3: worst records in the league all fell back in this
Speaker 3: in this in this draft selection. And I find that intriguing.
Speaker 3: If there is a lesson learned, you just go play,
Speaker 3: you know. I'm I'm like you, I'm old school, and
Speaker 3: I just think you go play and just do what
Speaker 3: you can with what's given. But you know, you take
Speaker 3: a chance, you roll the dice, and you come up empty.
Speaker 3: Now you have to wait and see what the next
Speaker 3: the next step, the next direction is for the Jazz.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, the good news is that in
Speaker 1: a way, not the way that we were all hoping
Speaker 1: it would work out, but in a way it did
Speaker 1: work out because as the worst team in the league,
Speaker 1: you are guaranteed a top five pick. So it so the
Speaker 1: point of what they did this year certainly was probably
Speaker 1: twofold and one was to have the best chance possible at.
Speaker 2: Getting number one overall.
Speaker 1: But the other point of it was to not fall
Speaker 1: past five because the top five pick Craig is very
Speaker 1: valuable in every single draft, and it's going to be
Speaker 1: valuable in this draft. So the bottom line is they're
Speaker 1: still going to get a really good player at five
Speaker 1: if they stay at five. My question to you is
Speaker 1: are you hearing anything about where their heads are at,
Speaker 1: because we've heard a couple of reports over the past
Speaker 1: twenty four hours that they're still going to be bold
Speaker 1: to try to do something to up the bottom line
Speaker 1: of this team, and to me, that indicates maybe stand
Speaker 1: at five is not on the table because san Antonio
Speaker 1: has to look at moving too.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: The problem is there's a Giannis component out there. There's
Speaker 1: a durant component out there. What does Boston's new ownership
Speaker 1: group do with a luxury tax bill of five hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars next year?
Speaker 3: Amazing?
Speaker 2: Is Jalen Brown available?
Speaker 1: So if you're San Antonio, you probably have a lot
Speaker 1: of options. But any insider intel as to where the
Speaker 1: head of Danny Ainge is the head of Justin Zanik
Speaker 1: is what you think the approach will be?
Speaker 3: You know, Spence, I wish I had an answer for
Speaker 3: you of yes, this is what direction they are, but
Speaker 3: no quiet. From what I know, you can speculate and
Speaker 3: there's options, and that's a good thing. Look, the Jazz
Speaker 3: collected draft picks for a reason, and that was to bargain.
Speaker 3: And right now it's probably the most opportunistic time for
Speaker 3: them to have these picks in their pocket. And how
Speaker 3: do they use them? I mean, this is where Danny's
Speaker 3: expertise is going to have to come through on what
Speaker 3: he did in Boston in prior years. And you know,
Speaker 3: Jazz fans are going to have to sit back and
Speaker 3: go that worked or it didn't. But you're right, the
Speaker 3: five spot still gives you a player that you can
Speaker 3: slide in. But I don't think that's where the Jazz
Speaker 3: were ever thinking personally. I mean all indications where you know,
Speaker 3: it's Cooper, it's Cooper, it's Cooper. If Harper's there, and
Speaker 3: by chance it goes too, that's a possibility and will
Speaker 3: survive it. But I think this is an opportunity this
Speaker 3: summer where the Jazz can do a lot of things.
Speaker 3: They can move players, they can decide to stay young
Speaker 3: and and rense and repeat, which I think would be
Speaker 3: a bold decision. Knowing that downtown is being re energized
Speaker 3: with a billion dollars in change, the three year project
Speaker 3: to give the Delta Center a Facebook for hockey, and
Speaker 3: the Jazz is right in front of us. They're underway now,
Speaker 3: and you know, the Olympics around the corner, and you
Speaker 3: also have a new competitor in town and Ryan Smith
Speaker 3: owns that team. It's it's you know, what was the
Speaker 3: Utah Hockey Club but the Utah Mammoth. And you know,
Speaker 3: I think that's the most intriguing thing for me, Spence.
Speaker 3: You know, it's how do you handle, you know, to
Speaker 3: have both teams financially fiscal and making money and getting
Speaker 3: return on the investment. But also is there enough advertising
Speaker 3: dollar to go around. Does someone peel off to join
Speaker 3: hockey that was a Jazz fan. That's interesting to me
Speaker 3: because this has never really happened ever in Utah. You know,
Speaker 3: sports is to have that type of competition, and they
Speaker 3: own the fourth pick Lady Luck shine down on the Mammoth,
Speaker 3: unlike the Jazz. So I think had some of the
Speaker 3: most intriguing conversation over the next month and a half
Speaker 3: on how this plays out. And you know how aggressive
Speaker 3: Danny and Justin and Ryan truly are going to be.
Speaker 3: And you brought up some names that are gonna move.
Speaker 3: You know, injuries are going to force it. You know,
Speaker 3: in Boston that's kind of a quiet, unknown, big story
Speaker 3: because new ownership. I've got a college buddy of mine
Speaker 3: who had some interest in financial interest and investment in Boston,
Speaker 3: and you know we've talked a little bit about you know,
Speaker 3: he's very quiet on the up and up, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's but they're interested in Boston about what the
Speaker 3: changes will be. And now it's been accelerated with the
Speaker 3: Achilles here, did Jason Tatum right? They may have to
Speaker 3: make a move quicker than they may have thought and
Speaker 3: maybe not play this again, maybe won't play it forward. So, man,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff going down. What do the
Speaker 3: Lakers do? What about Lebron? What about Phoenix? What about
Speaker 3: Steph Golden State's era of greatness? Man, it's it's interesting
Speaker 3: in Milwaukee again with Dame Lillard's achilles, that puts him
Speaker 3: kind of in the driver's seat on what he wants
Speaker 3: to do and how this may play out for not
Speaker 3: only the Bucks, for multiple teams though around the league,
Speaker 3: East and West.
Speaker 2: All right, Craig, are you ready for my trade idea?
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this at you, and let's remind the
Speaker 1: listening audience that Craig Butler Jack is an employee of
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz, so he needs to be careful about
Speaker 1: what he says. And we all understand that Patrick Dumont,
Speaker 1: owner of the Dallas Mavericks, has said, we are keeping
Speaker 1: one and we are drafting Cooper Flag.
Speaker 2: So no, Nico, you can't trade it. Get out of
Speaker 2: the room. That's what we're doing. So one is off
Speaker 2: the board, Craig.
Speaker 1: So let's move over to two, where the San Antonio
Speaker 1: Spurs find themselves in an interesting spot because they made
Speaker 1: the trade for Daron Fox, and they have the reigning
Speaker 1: rookie of the Year in Stefan Castle. So if the
Speaker 1: second best player in this draft is Dylan Harper, the
Speaker 1: reality is there's a lot of redundancy on San Antonio's roster.
Speaker 1: So what if you call san Antonio and you say,
Speaker 1: send us two, Okay, send us two, and then send
Speaker 1: us fourteen. They've got two lottery picks, Send us two
Speaker 1: and fourteen. Send us Kelton Johnson and Harrison Barnes. We're
Speaker 1: going to send you five, and we're going to send
Speaker 1: you marketing. Lowry marketing the number five pick for the
Speaker 1: number two pick, the number fourteen pick in exchange for
Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes and Kelton Johnson is only twenty five and
Speaker 1: a really good player.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 3: You know, that's intriguing. And I think it depends too
Speaker 3: on where Lowry's head is in this because it's been
Speaker 3: well documented documented that he wanted to see in Utah,
Speaker 3: he did stay in Utah, and he still wants to
Speaker 3: be in Utah. Now that was before. I haven't heard
Speaker 3: anything out of Lowry since Draft night. But you know,
Speaker 3: I think the other part of the equation, Spence is
Speaker 3: at the timetable for Lowry in the sense of how
Speaker 3: many years in the league, his age, and how do
Speaker 3: the Jazz look at him in the future and is
Speaker 3: he now going to be past his prime when this
Speaker 3: all comes to, you know, fruition of being a major
Speaker 3: player in the Western Conference. I think, you know, it's
Speaker 3: an intriguing idea, I really do. I think there's a
Speaker 3: lot of them out there, and you know, you still
Speaker 3: have a John Collins, I believe who have the player option.
Speaker 3: You know, jac There's a lot of players that Jazz had.
Speaker 3: There's some talent even you know, the talent of the
Speaker 3: last two draft class could be moved if necessary, some
Speaker 3: of them. So I think Will Hardy said it back
Speaker 3: best in his pressure last summer was you know, this
Speaker 3: is not an easy league. It's not easy to make
Speaker 3: a roster, it's not easy to stay on a roster.
Speaker 3: And this past year I think they got a really
Speaker 3: good insight of who can actually I think, play under pressure,
Speaker 3: deliver under pressure, and who wants to be a part
Speaker 3: of this of this build. Obviously there's a few that
Speaker 3: probably may want to go some place else. They may
Speaker 3: not have a choice, but that's just the way the
Speaker 3: life is in the NBA. I think there's gonna be
Speaker 3: a lot of names out there, Spence, I really do.
Speaker 3: And I think it goes beyond Giannis. You know, what
Speaker 3: does Golden State want to put on the table? Are
Speaker 3: they players? This? What is Phoenix gonna do? They're gonna
Speaker 3: be players? And now Dallas, out of nowhere, is obviously
Speaker 3: sitting in the driver's seat trying to revitalize a franchise
Speaker 3: who most of us thought a week ago, five days
Speaker 3: ago was basically dead on the vine, right, and they're
Speaker 3: going to have to take a step back and really
Speaker 3: rethink this thing. But Lady Luck shown shown down on them. Man,
Speaker 3: I'd say, it's it's amazing to see how this thing
Speaker 3: worked out. It really is. This will go down again
Speaker 3: in jazz Loar is another year where you wanted to
Speaker 3: develop and you did. You had the worst record in basketball,
Speaker 3: the worst in franchise history. But it didn't work out,
Speaker 3: and you have to move on and find a way.
Speaker 3: One thing, Spence, you cannot take this. You cannot allow this,
Speaker 3: and through your idea of a trade, that idea is
Speaker 3: moving forward. The one thing you don't want to do
Speaker 3: under the circumstances to make you move backwards in this situation.
Speaker 3: So anything Justin and Danny probably do. They've got to
Speaker 3: be forward thinkers on what will get them past this disappointment,
Speaker 3: this bump that didn't occur for Cooper Flag, and can
Speaker 3: you survive it and move on without missing a beat
Speaker 3: in the rebuild. I think that's the biggest challenge of all.
Speaker 1: Lowry is turning twenty eight in six days, so he
Speaker 1: will be twenty eight this year. And you know, Craig,
Speaker 1: even if the Jazz grabbed number one and drafted Cooper Flag,
Speaker 1: the reality is that would not have put them in
Speaker 1: a place to really challenge for anything all that special
Speaker 1: this year. As it is, they didn't grab number one
Speaker 1: and they're left at five where they're going to get
Speaker 1: a good young piece. And look, man, I don't know
Speaker 1: Ryan Smith all that well personally. All my interactions with
Speaker 1: him have been very pleasant. One thing we can all
Speaker 1: agree upon is the dude is bold. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a bold guy. And you know, I would imagine that
Speaker 1: an owner like Ryan who at least front facing says
Speaker 1: he wants to win and wants to win soon. I
Speaker 1: think you put everything on the table at this point,
Speaker 1: because sure Larry wants to be here. But you know,
Speaker 1: Larry Marketing is making max money for the next four years.
Speaker 1: He he you know, he's fine no matter where he's at.
Speaker 1: And yes, when players want to be here, it's important.
Speaker 1: But if he doesn't fit the timeline, I actually think
Speaker 1: they might put him on the table, on the table
Speaker 1: to move up or grab a couple of young pieces
Speaker 1: that are a little bit more exciting because they have
Speaker 1: to have done their calculation by now to understand that
Speaker 1: there really is not many avenues to improve the team
Speaker 1: to make next year look different than this year unless
Speaker 1: they're going to be bold.
Speaker 2: And Ryan's a bold guy.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if we're going to see finally some
Speaker 1: bold movement from this ownership group and from this from
Speaker 1: this front office.
Speaker 3: What do you think? Yeah, great points, And you remember
Speaker 3: the comment about going big game hunting that didn't happen,
Speaker 3: and maybe this summer that that statement by Danny comes
Speaker 3: to fruition And how however they end up doing it, Spence,
Speaker 3: there's multiple ways, as you know, uh, draft, free agency, UH,
Speaker 3: using trades and moving players in and out. I think
Speaker 3: you're going to see a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: movement because of age and injury, A lot of teams
Speaker 3: have to re energize and rev their you know, their
Speaker 3: their roster back up. Uh. But there's a lot of
Speaker 3: great players are on the cusp of the end. And
Speaker 3: that's what the jazz I think, probably in the back
Speaker 3: of their planning, in the in their mind of planning
Speaker 3: all this is that they would be setting in a
Speaker 3: position where in the West especially it was aging rapidly
Speaker 3: with you know, Hall of Famers, first ballot Hall of Famers,
Speaker 3: and now injuries hit the East and you wonder, you know,
Speaker 3: who's going to accelerate the process even more. That to
Speaker 3: me is is so intriguing, but also it's of the
Speaker 3: future of downtown. It's a competition with the with the
Speaker 3: Mammoth and the Jazz. The Jazz have always been, you know,
Speaker 3: top dog, and it's interesting to see to me what
Speaker 3: Ryan wants to do on how competitive they can be
Speaker 3: against each other but yet still profit. And that to
Speaker 3: me intrigues me a ton, because again, Salt Lake's growing,
Speaker 3: but when it comes to multimillion dollar deals, you know
Speaker 3: in advertising packages, yeah they're out there, but just how
Speaker 3: many and is there enough to sustain and profit off
Speaker 3: of two young franchises that are looking to make their
Speaker 3: way through the NBA and the NHL. Spen to tell you,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, this is where you earn your money.
Speaker 3: Danny's experience has got to shine through. Justin's been an agent,
Speaker 3: he knows players and tendencies and all this all has
Speaker 3: to come together to get the right decision on the
Speaker 3: table and and to pull pulled string on it and
Speaker 3: make sure that it's a long term. You know. Going
Speaker 3: back to Lowry, you know he's intriguing, but not so
Speaker 3: if he doesn't have the right players around him. I
Speaker 3: think we saw that this year. Is he the second
Speaker 3: or third best on a great team? Most likely? Does
Speaker 3: he want to play? I know he wants to play,
Speaker 3: but he also understood what the situation was. And as
Speaker 3: each day and each game went by, you know, TikTok, TikTok.
Speaker 3: I mean, time goes on and you lose a season
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you jump in and you're
Speaker 3: ten years in. So you make a great point. There's
Speaker 3: young young players, and they're younger every year every you know,
Speaker 3: Scooper's not even eighteen yet. I mean I find that fascinating,
Speaker 3: and so that comes into the equation. I think too
Speaker 3: Spence is you know, how long do you hold a player?
Speaker 3: How long do you want to give the development, give
Speaker 3: him time to development, to develop, because look back in
Speaker 3: the day of Sloan and look that's going back, I
Speaker 3: know it, but guys were three and four years they
Speaker 3: were twenty three, some twenty four, Big t was a senior,
Speaker 3: won the national title. Seventh player taken. Was the NBA ready,
Speaker 3: he says he was, and I think you know, he
Speaker 3: proved that he was. And now you're waiting to see
Speaker 3: if the pick was right. And that makes this whole situation,
Speaker 3: I think even more intriguing and more difficult. You're rolling
Speaker 3: the dice on young, young talent because you're not sure
Speaker 3: how they're going to mature and what kind of work ethic,
Speaker 3: truly do they have if they're going to be a
Speaker 3: pro and make the top of money that's in the
Speaker 3: league right now, All.
Speaker 1: Right, Boler, last thing and I'll set you loose. We
Speaker 1: had your guy a Lemma in studio yesterday for an
Speaker 1: hour and it was fun man telling some story time,
Speaker 1: and we both decided that we've all just kind of
Speaker 1: followed you to, you know, find our way in this business.
Speaker 1: Is you know, Alema kind of followed in your footsteps
Speaker 1: over Ksel. Of course you have the original Big Show.
Speaker 1: I had the second iteration of that. Unfortunately we had
Speaker 1: to drag the same partner around for years. But he
Speaker 1: said something that kind of shout out, Gordon, we love you.
Speaker 1: He said something that kind of I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: smile because a Lemma is such a sweet guy. He
Speaker 1: just said, Look, we all as a collective jazz community,
Speaker 1: and whatever part of the ecosystem you're in, you're part
Speaker 1: of the jazz community. Whether it's fans, media, we all
Speaker 1: want to see the jazz win and do well. We
Speaker 1: all just have to find our own way to enjoy
Speaker 1: the ride. How do you do that when the team
Speaker 1: is not close to what we're accustomed to? How do
Speaker 1: you enjoy the ride as a media member, as a fan,
Speaker 1: as somebody who cares about the jazz?
Speaker 2: How do you do that?
Speaker 3: Well, you know what you're catching me on a quick answer,
Speaker 3: But what first came to mind was people working with
Speaker 3: a Lemma. I've known him for years and years and years.
Speaker 3: We've we've been through it at KSL and beyond. You
Speaker 3: known Monson, David James, I mean Scotti, Girard all the
Speaker 3: names that we hear around town are people we all
Speaker 3: know and interact with, and it makes that you know,
Speaker 3: West rough Over Channel four forever. But I think it's
Speaker 3: the people that I see on a nightly basis, but
Speaker 3: the fans who are wide eyed, and also the newer
Speaker 3: fans that come into that building and just embrace, embrace
Speaker 3: a franchise now fifty one years and year old, and
Speaker 3: you go, wow, look at the longevity of the franchise,
Speaker 3: but also look at the generations of fans that have
Speaker 3: come through the house that Larry built and before it
Speaker 3: at at the Salt Palace. And you know, for me,
Speaker 3: this year was challenging. Thryll and I had multiple talks
Speaker 3: and Lauren her first year was you know what, first
Speaker 3: run in the NBA. We're lucky. We love it and
Speaker 3: I love being around the game and the people. But
Speaker 3: it's a privilege to set there and call the Utah
Speaker 3: Jazz it's called you know, it's the NBA, and I
Speaker 3: see great players every night. You're disappointed, absolutely, do I
Speaker 3: want to win, absolutely, And it's hard to win seventeen
Speaker 3: and still try to keep your focus, but that's my job,
Speaker 3: and we try to prepare the best we could this
Speaker 3: year to find a positive an Isaiah Callier, Kyle Philipowski,
Speaker 3: you know, even Will Hardy's growth as a coach, Spence
Speaker 3: as you and I talked with, you know during the year,
Speaker 3: and Walker kester Man, he could have totally tainked after
Speaker 3: a sophomore slump, and the guy busted through in the
Speaker 3: minutes given and he matured and became a legitimate big
Speaker 3: In my opinion, He's got a long ways to go,
Speaker 3: but I think the Jazz see that there is definitely
Speaker 3: hope and growth with Walk and others. So that's what
Speaker 3: I try to hang on to. You man, But you
Speaker 3: go to the arena of the inner energy in that
Speaker 3: building is it just takes you. It just takes you.
Speaker 3: And that's what I enjoy every time I walk in
Speaker 3: the building and prepare for a game, is because win
Speaker 3: or lose, you're still out there trying to give your
Speaker 3: best to a group of people who most of them
Speaker 3: have a connection with the past and they're trying to
Speaker 3: build one with the future. Do they get frustrated? Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I hear it all the time. Go on the road,
Speaker 3: I do you know, talk shows on the road and
Speaker 3: fans ask or you know, hosts ask the same thing
Speaker 3: about what about the jazz E're going to become stocked
Speaker 3: and alone. Well, look, those days are over and that's
Speaker 3: hard to accept. But at the same time you have
Speaker 3: to also say thank you for those days with Jerry
Speaker 3: and Hats and John and Carl and Horniseck because it
Speaker 3: built the foundation of where we are today. I know
Speaker 3: this sounds probably like, you know, over the top, but
Speaker 3: you ask the question, and honestly, this is what pours
Speaker 3: out of me, is that the past does help explain
Speaker 3: or at least guide the future. And there's nothing more
Speaker 3: than what jazz fans want to taste and Ryan and
Speaker 3: Ashley want to taste. Is another opportunity to go back
Speaker 3: and win a championship, or have the opportunity to win
Speaker 3: a championship for Salt Lake, stay to Utah. In fact,
Speaker 3: now it's more regional than ever, so you know the
Speaker 3: people that are involved. Man, I'd say, I love walking
Speaker 3: through the hallways and the fans are there and they
Speaker 3: are ready to roll. They love the NBA, they love
Speaker 3: the jazz, but they also are intrigued with the rest
Speaker 3: of the league as well. They're there to see superstars,
Speaker 3: They're there to see to Lebron. They're there to see
Speaker 3: you know, Steph Curry, and so it's it's kind of
Speaker 3: a combination of everything, but man, it's hard not to
Speaker 3: love it. Even though you're losing. You're trying to find
Speaker 3: some positives spent the long the way, I'm hoping some
Speaker 3: positives hit because Jets fans deserve it. They've been i'd say, strong,
Speaker 3: durable for a long time and it'd be great to
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to see them enjoy postseason play at
Speaker 3: a high level again.
Speaker 1: All right, Bowler, well, behave yourself tonight. I don't want
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Bell, have a great weekend. We'll talk soon.
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