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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's the Ben and Skin Show ninety seven

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<v Speaker 1>point one The Eagle. You know, we're the home of

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Mavericks basketball. The game with the Hornets will be

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<v Speaker 1>on our airwaves tonight. You can hear pregame starting at

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<v Speaker 1>seven and then the tips at seven thirty. And we

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<v Speaker 1>got Mavericks tickets to give away. It is the Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>Pistons game. Man, the Pistons are good and they will

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<v Speaker 1>be in town March twenty first, and that's a Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>We got tickets to give away to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first person using the iHeart app, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>talkback feature on it. That iHeart app allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>and we like to use that to give away stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and reward people that listen to the show. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first person that uses the talkback feature leaves their name,

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<v Speaker 1>to the question. We talked about it the first segment,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the reason that someone left a bad Airbnb

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<v Speaker 1>review on my cabin up in Oklahoma and broken Bow?

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<v Speaker 2>We told you why.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're listening, you know, first person that leaves that

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<v Speaker 1>talkback message BAM, you are going to get those tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We got sports coming up in thirty minutes, the Today Game,

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<v Speaker 1>which is never podcasted, you have to listen live.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now it's time for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Juicyos hot gods.

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<v Speaker 4>Come stay on top in the woot shovel, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Actor Gene Hackman, ninety five years old, was found dead

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<v Speaker 3>in his New Mexico home with his wife, Betsy Arakawa.

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<v Speaker 3>She is in her sixties. She was a pianist. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 3>Jeane was found in something called a mudroom. This is

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<v Speaker 3>in Santa Fe.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, a mudroom. I didn't fully know what that was.

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<v Speaker 4>We used to have a mudroom. My mom always had

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<v Speaker 4>names for rooms and pieces of furniture and like whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, I think it means like for us, our

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<v Speaker 4>mudroom was in between like the garage and the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>He has to take your shoes off. Yeah, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a mudroom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically it's like you'd like been described the Usually

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<v Speaker 1>there's it's basically a transitionary where you hang coats and

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<v Speaker 1>you put.

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<v Speaker 2>Your dirty shoes A good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Usually they'll come off like a garage into a

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<v Speaker 1>laundry room or something and most of.

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<v Speaker 4>The time, it's for areas where there's a tremendous build

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<v Speaker 4>up of mud.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta say, man, the Gene Hackman death might be

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<v Speaker 3>the best thing that's happened to mudroom sales in years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're going to skyrocket. Betsy Arakawa his wife.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are you saying it like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh Betsy Aha? She was found dead on the floor

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<v Speaker 3>of a bathroom.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>A dead German shepherd was found between ten and fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>feet away from her in the closet of the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 4>Christina had no reaction to Betsy our Okawa being found dead,

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<v Speaker 4>but the German shepherd elicited a reaction.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, it's just like movies when people die. I'm like, okay, man,

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of sucks, But when it does, no, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned this before. It was the made for TV

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<v Speaker 1>movie about the Hindenburg. It was probably a seventh grader

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the movie they showed the

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<v Speaker 1>faces of.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone that died.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just sitting there watching it, and then they showed

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<v Speaker 1>the dog that died on the Hindenburg and.

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<v Speaker 2>I just lost It.

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<v Speaker 4>Is because we think that humans probably have done something

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<v Speaker 4>bad at some point, so it doesn't bother us as much.

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<v Speaker 4>But the dogs are always hundred percent innocent. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that probably has something to do. Yeah, is that why

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't have any sympathy for any of the other deaths.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's it's very sad, but yes, all dogs

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<v Speaker 5>do is love you. That's all they do.

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<v Speaker 3>You think about I'll say not true to the stray

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<v Speaker 3>dog that ran up to me yesterday when I went

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<v Speaker 3>on a walk.

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<v Speaker 4>He was also attacked by a dog. Christina, what do

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<v Speaker 4>you have to say to defend that dog? That dog

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<v Speaker 4>attack Kevin Turnerman shepherd too.

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<v Speaker 5>He might have smelt something on you or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you have a did you have a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>ham in your pocket?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was hearing some mutton. The thing two

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<v Speaker 3>years of dogs. You never go, oh, who's a bad boy.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a good boy, assume.

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<v Speaker 5>But the owners could ruin the dog. And that's why

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<v Speaker 5>people are horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is how we're gonna remember Gene hack Jan's in.

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<v Speaker 3>The mudroom dead, Betsy's in the bathroom dead, German shepherd

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<v Speaker 3>ten feet away in the closet of the bathroom dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>All right then, and then it gets reported by the

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<v Speaker 3>way that no foul play suspected. So what happened was

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<v Speaker 3>a maintenance worker was scheduled to come to the house

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>He walked in, I guess the mudroom.

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<v Speaker 3>First sees Jane goes in and he calls authority, So

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's who's found them. The Then then later in

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<v Speaker 3>the day, so it's reported early this morning, no foul

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<v Speaker 3>play suspected, and then by about noon I saw, well,

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<v Speaker 3>suspicious play suspenion.

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<v Speaker 2>This is they're ruling.

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<v Speaker 3>Suspicious and they're launching an investigation. They did find an

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<v Speaker 3>open prescription bottle and scattered pills near the body of

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<v Speaker 3>Betsy on the counter in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>But scattered pills?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that two pills? Is that nine pills? Is it fifteen?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it doesn't really say. The fire department did

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<v Speaker 3>not find signs of a carbon monoxide leak, and there

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<v Speaker 3>were no obvious signs of a gas leak in the home.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a prediction, shoot shoot score.

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<v Speaker 1>Gene Hackman, who is ninety four five ninety five passed

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<v Speaker 1>away in the mudroom from being ninety five. Betsy saw

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<v Speaker 1>this and was so distraught she couldn't move, She couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>live without Gene Hackman. She went to the bathroom and

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<v Speaker 1>took her pills to ode and hit the ground, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the dog ate some of the remaining pills, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Betsy and the dog died of proscription pilled death.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, there's two other dogs that did not eat any

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<v Speaker 4>of the pills.

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<v Speaker 1>They were smart enough, not because they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that dog over there didn't the pills didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>We should go in here and hump something.

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine they weren't living in a small adobe either,

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<v Speaker 3>because they did say two other dogs found on the property.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I go, okay, you know they were writing a tractor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I do worry about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Anytime I drop anything on the ground, I assume my

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<v Speaker 4>dogs are gonna eat it. So if she dropped pills

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<v Speaker 4>on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like, I can't remember what it is now. We

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<v Speaker 1>had to do it with Rocksy or Luca not too

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<v Speaker 1>long ago. So one time your dog, yeah, Lucas, my

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<v Speaker 1>dog Luca ate a bunch of asprin or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what it was, and we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, ah, G did it. No, we had to take

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<v Speaker 1>her to the vet and they do this thing and

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<v Speaker 1>it costs fourigner bucks or whatever. It's way too expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she did it again, like two weeks ago. She

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<v Speaker 1>was eating this like bone thing you know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to chew up and it's good for your teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was panning really hard, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that thing's lodged insiderr yeah, And so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go to the vet for you

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<v Speaker 2>It was late at night. I want to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the vet and pay him the money.

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<v Speaker 1>So we gave her some little oxide something or other

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<v Speaker 1>to make her throw up, and she threw up this

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<v Speaker 1>thing that had been lodged inside her.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it? It was that bone.

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<v Speaker 1>The bone got stuck in her in her passageway, and

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<v Speaker 1>that thing made her throw up and it cost us nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, if you can, if you that's a dog trick.

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<v Speaker 1>If your dog, if you think your dog took a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of asprin or ate a bunch of chocolate, just

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<v Speaker 1>give them the stuff and they'll throw up and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be good to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a few more details, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>first I do like detective waves.

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<v Speaker 2>Premise here, thank you, hypothesis both.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I would like to award him a fake

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<v Speaker 3>mustache in a magnifying glass.

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<v Speaker 2>Temporarily.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you'll take it back if he's wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's wrong, you'll be removed. But for now, enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>Use him on the broadcast tonight. Why would you want

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<v Speaker 3>to give me a badge a new watch hat?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So once the Sheriff's got there, they found Betsy. Betsy

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<v Speaker 3>lying on her side on the bathroom floor with a

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<v Speaker 3>space heater near her head, which might go to your theory.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe she was trying to keep her head warm while

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<v Speaker 3>she was dying out.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't make sense. The deputy, give me a coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>The deputy did say that he suspected that the heater

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<v Speaker 3>could have fallen with her, like she could have fell,

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<v Speaker 3>which the pills fall hurt her body, showed signs of decomposition.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh already could have in there for okay, in there

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<v Speaker 4>for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this case I'm changing my theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Gene Hackman went in there and found Betsy had taken

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<v Speaker 1>pills and the dog had taken pills, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>rushing to go get help.

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<v Speaker 2>And because he's ninety five, he died in the mudroom

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<v Speaker 2>as he was running to get help. Are you changing it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're changing it, I'm gonna have to take away

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<v Speaker 3>the fake mustache, the hack By that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like the original.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna stay with the detectives have a gut feeling

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<v Speaker 3>they don't really know what happened, but they do.

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<v Speaker 4>She she was so much younger, She had plenty of

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<v Speaker 4>life to go, not a ton, but.

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<v Speaker 2>She was nothing before she met Geene.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she was as she was about to have the

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<v Speaker 4>whole Gene Hackman empire, older herself, apparently.

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<v Speaker 5>Famous penist thought want to live without him?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think also, uh, he lost a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money in real time sports action.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he did.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's true and not a good thing

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<v Speaker 3>to spread about him on this day. Yeah, she was

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<v Speaker 3>a businesswoman, former pianist in decades long companion. Much more

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<v Speaker 3>on her than that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a tragedy man, Yeah, incredibly said.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a tough deal. No, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>You want someone that you've admired their work forever. You

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<v Speaker 1>want them to die peacefully. You don't want them to

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<v Speaker 1>have a death. And now there's a bunch of controversy

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<v Speaker 1>and weird stuff going on around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, although to.

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<v Speaker 4>Live to be ninety five. Hell of a run. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>made it, you know, and he aged really quickly, at

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<v Speaker 4>least in my brain, because he just stopped making movies

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<v Speaker 4>at some point like four. Okay, so he's quit making

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<v Speaker 4>movies in two thousand and four, even though he was

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<v Speaker 4>just stopped when he still had you know, I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>so how old would he have been this seventy five seven?

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<v Speaker 4>So she's aboubout at the retirement age unless he was

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<v Speaker 4>going to run for president sixty so, but he still

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<v Speaker 4>could have kept making movies. He was choosing not to

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<v Speaker 4>be in movies, right, Yeah, I don't know, And.

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<v Speaker 3>I it seemed like he was still around because he's

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<v Speaker 3>on TV all the time because of all these movies

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing, But the other thing about Gene

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<v Speaker 1>Hackman is go watch Bonnie and Clyde in nineteen sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked to be about thirty years older than he

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<v Speaker 1>was and then stayed that age forever.

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<v Speaker 4>All of a sudden, pictures showed up of him, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, about six months ago, and I was like, damn, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Like he suddenly looked like he had aged like forty

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, him and Hoosiers compared to him and the Replacements,

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<v Speaker 3>as the coach looks about the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, dude, look at him in the French Connection.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like fifteen years. Hoosiers is fifteen years later, and

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of looks the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but Hoosiers in the Replacements are they kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Hoosiers would have been eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Replacements was two thousand, Okay, I would have thought Hoosiers

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<v Speaker 3>was in the seventies, so Hoosiers.

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<v Speaker 2>Was late eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>And the coming up later, we'll talk about the films

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<v Speaker 1>of Barbara Hershey, who of course was in Hoosiers. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really care for that asking, Oh not a huge fan? Interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you like her in Last Temptation of Christ?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Yep. All right, coming up next and

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<v Speaker 4>around the sports, where are we gonna go kt media fight?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we've got a media fight. Oh we got some

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys news and more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, that's coming up next.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah,