WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.560 So I will ask the owner Mogul about owner mogil 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.679 questions and we'll bring him and Michael Parker's hanging out 3 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:07.160 with us. 4 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:09.359 It has been entirely too long, my friend. 5 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:13.000 Great to see it has been My apologies, John. It's 6 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:14.199 been busy summer, but. 7 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:16.280 I mean, but busy summer is a good thing. 8 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:19.760 Though it's been a great thing. It sure has. 9 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:20.280 Well. 10 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:24.320 We just got back from a week in California. 11 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:28.239 So it was oh, oh, oh oh a week a 12 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:31.000 week in California? Were there beaches? Was their golf? 13 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:36.679 There are no golf but beaches? Yeah, great family vacation. 14 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:39.840 We did San Diego and La and Joshua Tree. 15 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:44.560 It was amazing San Diego. Yes, we know of San Diego. 16 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:48.799 What I was discussing before you came in and kind 17 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:53.000 of the opening kickoff set up, it's I was discussing 18 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:55.719 the Tiago Al model situation, and this is where I 19 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.799 wanted to to kind of ask the owner Mogul about 20 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:03.200 things when it comes to economics and contracts and all 21 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:08.920 of the shenanigans that are there. And I wanted to 22 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:14.400 ask specifically when it comes to like dealing with contracts 23 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:18.879 and players and all these kinds of things. Have you 24 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:22.079 had to deal with so much legal stuff in your 25 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:26.599 life in having to deal with player contracts and legalities 26 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:29.200 and making sure that things get paid and everybody knows 27 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:33.120 the the the the numbers on the bank accounts and everything. 28 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:37.079 What is it like dealing with financials and players and 29 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:41.840 trying to honor agreements. What's that like for a mogul 30 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:44.400 and training and a club that is working its way 31 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:44.959 off the ground. 32 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:52.519 Well, I think you're asking me from my current. 33 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:57.519 Yes, yes, the current job in relation to you know 34 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:01.159 you with your current gig, just what it's like to 35 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:04.079 have to deal with all these different machinations and everything, 36 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:06.480 because I know that folks will sit there. We were 37 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.000 specifically discussing the Thiago thing and where they're at. Land 38 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.240 United's owned thirty million dollars and it's being slowed down 39 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:13.960 in the courts and the guy doesn't want to pay 40 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.800 and it's like I'll gladly pay you tuesday for jiagu 41 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:18.439 Almada today and all these kinds of things. 42 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:19.879 And I was just trying to kind of. 43 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:22.120 Pick your brain a little bit about what it's like 44 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:26.479 to be in the in those rooms and negotiating contracts 45 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:30.280 and honoring deals and being a solid businessman that kind 46 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:30.719 of thing. 47 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:36.159 Yeah, And I think that we take the stance that 48 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:40.159 soccer is a small world and so relationships are super important, 49 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:44.080 and so you know, we know that not every negotiation 50 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:47.800 is going to be perfect and there's always some feelings involved, 51 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:53.280 But can we just be truthful and open and honest 52 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.960 about situations and when an agreement is made, that's the 53 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:04.120 agreement and there's no backtracking. So yeah, we've got, for example, 54 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:08.120 we've got two players who we told we'd get green cards, 55 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.479 and that's a long process. They might not even still 56 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:15.000 be with us when we finalize these green cards, but 57 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:19.000 it's important for me that we follow through with said 58 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:22.360 commitment because that's what we said we would and so 59 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:25.639 that's important. And we haven't obviously dealt with a lot 60 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:30.879 of transfers yet, we're just maybe getting involved with things 61 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.439 like that, and so those conversations are always a little 62 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.879 bit more tricky, I would assume, you know, as far 63 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:39.159 as when the players already gone and trying to get 64 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:44.159 sell on fees and all that stuff. But again, I 65 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:49.039 just feel like you do the right thing and that's 66 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:52.240 it comes back to you one way or the other, 67 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:53.039 good or bad. 68 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.000 Yeah, and there's always you mentioned the whole thing about 69 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.240 it being a small world, and it's just one of 70 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.240 those where your word is your bond, and I mean 71 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.120 there's hand there's the handshake and your reputation and those 72 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:10.159 kinds of things. And I would imagine that that in 73 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:14.319 your time dealing with the the new avocation, that you 74 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:16.720 might come across some dudes that you might sit there 75 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:18.279 in the spider senses go up and you're like, no, 76 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.240 I don't know if we want to deal with that guy. 77 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:20.680 You know. 78 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:25.240 It's it's like rude awakenings at points from a business perspective, 79 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:26.959 where you sit there and go, Okay, that's a guy 80 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.680 that I really don't want us to mess with because 81 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.000 that could take us down a bad path. And especially 82 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:34.199 with finances being what they are these days, you don't 83 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:36.600 want to sit there and look at the dude and 84 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:39.199 go yeah, I'll do that and then get jeopardized for 85 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.600 going down that road for sure. 86 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.439 And where it becomes more complicated though, is so especially 87 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.240 for South American and African players, it's they could have 88 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:53.920 three agents, uh, you know, three people that think they 89 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:59.879 are players agent. And I just remember hearing things when 90 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:06.040 he signed Barco about the how things went down and 91 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:10.639 just the degree of difficulty and just the situation and 92 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.879 the people that expected to get paid and there's just 93 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:20.120 so much and so I doubt that's unique to Barco, right, 94 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.160 And that's where I think it becomes more complicated, is 95 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:25.920 who's getting what out of these deals? Because you know, 96 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:31.000 for some of these guys, they're, yeah, they're setting their 97 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.759 life on one player or two players, and so this 98 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:37.040 is life changing money for them and they don't want 99 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.279 to miss it and they will do anything and everything 100 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:41.279 to make sure they get what they think they deserve. 101 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:44.720 And that's yes. 102 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:50.240 And to to Alex's point, using the technical jargon of 103 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:54.560 the back rood, no take backs, Yeah, there's no takesie backsies, 104 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:57.199 there's there's no takebacks in these kinds of negotiations. 105 00:05:57.639 --> 00:05:57.839 Yeah. 106 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:02.480 And so right now with Rhode Island FC, Sir, I 107 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:04.759 look at the standings. Actually, I was told to ask 108 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.319 a question and you may not have an answer to it, 109 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.399 but I was supposed to ask you about the situation 110 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:13.399 with Conno on the roof. 111 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:20.759 Yeah, he got a red card at halftime of a 112 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:25.759 game a few weeks ago and he was trying to 113 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:27.720 figure out where he was going to watch the second 114 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.680 half of the game and decided that he wanted the 115 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.360 best view in the house, so he went on the 116 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.680 roof and then you know he was up there with 117 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.240 another assistant coach, and then the photograph came with him 118 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:43.319 and just yeah, it got a little bit of a notoriety. 119 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:47.959 Well, when you're on the roof in your new building, 120 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:49.439 is it an easy thing to access? 121 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:51.959 Can you get safely up and down? Can you watch? 122 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:54.319 Or is it like NASCAR and spotters where you're kind 123 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:55.879 of like nineteen floors up. 124 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:00.639 I would not be watching the game from up there personally. 125 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:03.920 I understand it's a good view, but my fear of 126 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:06.639 heights would not allow me to go stand on the roof. 127 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.600 But I know that, you know, he didn't have a 128 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:12.920 pre set location to go, and he wanted to be 129 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:17.399 by himself and not bothered with anyone. So he made 130 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.399 the most of it and it kind of blew up 131 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:20.920 a little bit, which was in a good way. 132 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:22.519 Yes, understandably. 133 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:25.439 So you're in the playoffs right now, You're in the 134 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:28.800 eighth spot in the Eastern Conference. Your takeaways right now 135 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.639 at being five nine and five and working the chaos 136 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:36.759 of the East where it is Louisville, Charleston, and then 137 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:37.879 a lot of you other folks. 138 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.879 Yeah, it sure is. Yeah, we haven't been thrilled, honestly, 139 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:45.680 it's been a disappointing season so far, if I'm being honest. 140 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.040 We had high expectations to really push to get into 141 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.920 the top four and we just haven't been good enough. 142 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:56.480 And we've had some injuries and that have hurt us. 143 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:00.319 And we're relatively healthy right now, which is good, so 144 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:03.120 hopefully we can make a run here. We did just 145 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:07.279 sign another player, a Jamaican player who was with them 146 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:09.879 for the Gold Cup, who I think he'll help us 147 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:11.800 out in the attack, which is where we're struggling. We're 148 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:14.480 struggling to score goals this year and so we need 149 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:17.480 to we need to move things in the right direction 150 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:21.800 there and it's been a struggle though. So we've got 151 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.519 a month left in the window. We will be active 152 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.439 and try and right this ship. Because yeah, it's to 153 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.759 your point, there's not a lot of space in between 154 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:36.919 three and twelve, so anything can happen, which is a 155 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:39.159 good thing when we're having a season that we're not 156 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:42.639 proud of yet, so we know we can turn it 157 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:44.000 around and make a run. 158 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:47.159 Yeah, and so we had to we had to get 159 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:50.759 those questions out because of the well rounded, three dimensionalness 160 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:52.960 of Michael park Kers. 161 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:54.480 We had to get those questions in this. 162 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:58.519 Morning with all of the stuff you mentioned going to 163 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:02.840 Joshua Tree in California and spending time with family. When 164 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:07.120 it comes to mentoring, how important is it, I guess 165 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:13.480 to a recharge and be reassess where you were during 166 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.840 the previous season and school year and everything so you're 167 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.480 ready for the twenty five twenty six beyond goals minering 168 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.200 rush that you and Greg and the still to be 169 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:27.639 publicly an outstand or named in an individual that you're 170 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:30.399 adding to the stacks are being added to the stacks. 171 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:34.559 Yes, it's it is important, and it's been a constant 172 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.200 battle for me this summer a little bit where it's 173 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:40.200 kind of hit me that, hey, I've got four summers 174 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.480 left with my kids before they're out of the house, 175 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.720 and I'm so balancing, Hey, getting some work done, but 176 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.600 also if they want to go do something, I want 177 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:50.759 to be available and hang out and they still want 178 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.720 to hang out with me, which is cool. So to 179 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:56.279 be able to do that, and so I haven't been 180 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:00.759 as productive this summer as I envisioned myself. But I've 181 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:03.600 also really enjoyed the summer, which is important. And it's 182 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.600 the same thing for athletes, right we know that, hey, 183 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.240 you need to get ready for next season, but you know, 184 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.080 being in a good space mentally is just as important, 185 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:14.279 and you know, taking advantage of some time off is 186 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:18.759 super important. So yeah, it's it's been nice. And that said, 187 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.639 I mean, even when I'm on vacation, I'm answering a 188 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:23.519 couple of texts and I you know, a kid got 189 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.120 two college i D camps this week, so I talked 190 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:30.159 to him on Monday. So it's it's little things. But 191 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:34.240 you know, I definitely have slowed things down a little 192 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:38.399 bit over the past few weeks and trying to step 193 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:40.159 back a little bit, which is important sometimes. 194 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.799 Yeah, I was going to ask, do your mentee still 195 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:47.000 circle back here when it's the summer and the calendar? 196 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.720 Do they have that kind of constant contact? 197 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:52.600 Are they checking in those kinds of things even if 198 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:54.600 even if they don't have anything going on. Are they 199 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:56.679 still just checking in randomly to sit there and say, hey, 200 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:58.039 I had a question about X, Y or Z. 201 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.240 Yeah. Yeah, And it depends on the age. It's some 202 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:05.600 of the older players who are doing college things in 203 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:07.879 the summer becomes a little bit more important. You know. 204 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:10.919 I think the younger kids are kind of checked out 205 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.879 a little bit, which is good. We tell them to 206 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:17.080 check out and make sure they do check out a 207 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:19.519 little bit, which is which is great. So, yeah, it's 208 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.679 more of the older crowd in the summer of preparing 209 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:25.480 for college and ID camps and you know, maybe some 210 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:29.360 showcases and big tournaments. When we were down at San Diego, 211 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:32.039 the Surf Cup was going on, so uh yeah, there's 212 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.679 there's I mean, throughout the summer there's always these big 213 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:38.360 tournaments and showcases and things. So just helping kids get 214 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:39.360 prepared for those things. 215 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:45.600 What did you learn about yourself as a mentor last season? 216 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:47.080 I guess we'll phrase it that way. What did you 217 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.720 learn about yourself as a mentor last year that you 218 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:52.159 might not have known or that got reinforced about what 219 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:53.519 you thought you knew about yourself. 220 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:00.960 You know, I think that even though I've got a 221 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:09.200 confidence about my knowledge and what we're doing, I still 222 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.919 think there's sometimes this doubt that creeps in of Hey, 223 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:16.559 you know, am I really making a difference, Is it 224 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:21.519 getting through? Is this what we envisioned it could be 225 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:23.919 or what we thought it could be. And so every 226 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.399 now and then we get really really good feedback that 227 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:29.519 says that it just validates kind of what we're doing 228 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:33.200 in division and how we're helping players, And I think 229 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:37.519 that's that's always nice and that's always important to get 230 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:42.600 because there's sometimes where we have sessions and we don't know, 231 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.559 you know, we think session went great with a team 232 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.600 or an individual, or even four sessions with an individual, 233 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:51.679 but maybe they're just on the quiet side, or there's 234 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.159 just not a ton of feedback, and that doesn't mean 235 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:56.200 it hasn't gone well and it hasn't been successful. So 236 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:00.759 it is nice sometimes to get that validation to know, oh, Okay, hey, 237 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.000 we're on the right mark here. And I think that's 238 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:07.360 some of the conversations we've had with partnerships and different 239 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:10.639 events and things in the future, I think has shown 240 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:12.480 us that hey, we're on the right path. We just 241 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.960 need to continue to grind in it and grow slowly. 242 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:17.720 But that. 243 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:21.200 What we set out to do we are doing. 244 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:27.240 How do you and Greg and Beyond goals as an 245 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:34.720 entity gauge success? How do you grade that considering all 246 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.360 of the individuals that you touch, all of the individuals 247 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.279 that you consult, all the individuals that you mentor all 248 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:44.240 of the organizations that you're in bits and pieces with. 249 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:48.000 How do you and Greg and everybody there at BGM 250 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.120 gauge success? And you can take that word and put 251 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:55.120 it wherever you want, but how do you gauge success 252 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:57.720 for what you've been doing over the last. 253 00:13:57.600 --> 00:13:58.600 Couple of years. 254 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:05.279 I think there's there's a there's two different aspects to success. 255 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:11.399 One is obviously financial, and then two is the motivational success. 256 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.879 So are we growing the company year over a year? 257 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:21.240 That's important, you know. I think the next big piece 258 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:25.120 of growth is our sales inbound instead of us finding 259 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:31.200 an outbound, which is slowly occurring, which would be nicer 260 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.879 when that fully transitions. B g TV is not the 261 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:38.840 success yet that we want it to be, but I 262 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:43.399 think it's going to grow. But then, to my point earlier, 263 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:47.240 is just the feedback from athletes from families of hey 264 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:49.519 this is making a difference, or hey you really helped 265 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:53.240 my child, or hey this really helped me prepare for 266 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:56.200 this upcoming season, for this tournament, for this tryout, for 267 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:59.759 this ID camp. The more we hear that that's that's 268 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:05.639 the SSS for sure. And then anytime a player or 269 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:10.559 a family lets other people know about us and we 270 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:13.960 get more sign ups from that that we know as success. Right, 271 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:15.840 if we're getting word of mouth sales, we know that 272 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:19.320 we're we're making a difference, we're doing good things. 273 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:25.120 So then how difficult is it for you and Greg 274 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:32.440 as you're growing to be patient considering we know where 275 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:36.240 ground zero was? Yeah, for sure, we know where you 276 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:40.639 are now. We know how competitive the two of you 277 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:44.200 were on the field, and obviously that carries over into 278 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:48.039 business life and wanting to carry on in the next stage. 279 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:51.080 Is how difficult is it to be patient? Because you 280 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:55.399 mentioned BGTV as an example, it's about investment up front, 281 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:58.559 you know, whether it's elbow grease or what have you, 282 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.679 knowing what you want it to be. So how difficult 283 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:05.000 is it to be patient knowing how you were on 284 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:06.360 the field as an athlete. 285 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:11.320 Yeah, it's challenging because it's not necessarily Hey, the more 286 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:12.879 work you put into it, the more success you have 287 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:16.679 right away. And I guess that's true on the field 288 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:20.080 as well. Sometimes for some players you just have to 289 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:24.320 wait for your moment. But yeah, I think that's where 290 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:27.600 the marketing group that we work with helps out because 291 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:32.360 they know that. For one example is the blogs that 292 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:34.159 we do for the website, and they always said, hey, 293 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:37.279 once you start this, you won't see results for about 294 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:42.240 eighteen months, right, but the SEO and all the algorithms 295 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:45.200 and stuff will eventually lead more people to the website, 296 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:49.000 which will lead more to inbound sales and things that 297 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:51.360 you know, we don't have to put the work in 298 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:55.279 to go find the players or to really spread the word. 299 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:59.000 The word will spread by itself. And so you know, 300 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.320 we've stayed committed to the blog, and same thing with 301 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:06.160 BGTV and staying committed to doing the videos every week 302 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:10.480 even though we probably have twenty thirty members right now, 303 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.960 but the goal is to get two thousand or three thousand, 304 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:18.240 and so yeah, but we've had some conversations recently with 305 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:22.319 a club and then an organization who are interested and 306 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:25.839 want to figure out some way to institute things. And 307 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.720 so then you get the spark and you're like, okay, hey, 308 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:32.119 this is this can be what we think it can be. 309 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:42.000 And I would imagine that the feedback is cool and 310 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:46.440 you're like, yeah, you know, it's but just the anxiousness 311 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:48.880 of wanting to succeed and wanting to continue to help, 312 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.400 and wanting to aid, wanting to continue to help, be 313 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:55.079 wanting to continue to grow. See you know what you 314 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:57.680 want to do, all these kinds of things. It's it's 315 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:01.920 got to be. It's just this difficult mix of you 316 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.079 want to sit there and it's like, ah, I know 317 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.440 what we're doing, I know what's going to work, and 318 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:09.480 it's just like, come on, let's get this thing going 319 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:11.640 the where to the level that you want it to. 320 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:13.279 I imagine that you're like that. 321 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:14.720 There are some days where you're just kind of like, 322 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:16.839 come on, man, we got to get this done. 323 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:24.680 Let's most people, some conversations are very frustrating, and yes, 324 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:31.200 test patients with huh, not only organizations but people, and 325 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:36.599 you're just like, gosh, let us help you or let 326 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:42.640 us help your kids, and you'll see it. But we know, hey, 327 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:46.519 not everything is for everyone, and not everyone's going to 328 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:51.359 see the bigger picture or honestly want to see the 329 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:52.000 bigger picture. 330 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:55.920 Yeah, it's like they just you know, don't tell me 331 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:58.039 about the birth, show me the baby. Basically one of 332 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:00.960 those kind of things. It's just like to there, what 333 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:02.519 was the last book you read. 334 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:06.960 I have a book that I brought on vacation that 335 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:09.200 I read zero pages of John. 336 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:12.839 So, what's that book that you want to read? 337 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:19.799 It's John Wooden's book. I can't remember the title, but 338 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.640 his book I wanted to read, and. 339 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:26.119 So I heard he was pretty good at what he. 340 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:29.039 Did, as have I. So that's why I thought I 341 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:31.839 needed to read it. But I haven't gotten there yet. 342 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:35.359 But kids start up school next week here in Columbus, 343 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:38.880 so i'll I'll have a little bit more time to 344 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:40.000 get back to reading. 345 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:40.680 Do. 346 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:44.480 One of the things that I know I need to 347 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.799 get in the picture frame is the pyramid of success 348 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:50.680 when it comes to and I know that they exist 349 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:53.319 because look if Ted Lasso has it in his office 350 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:55.880 at AFC Richmond. I know that I can get the 351 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:58.400 framework of the pyramid of success somewhere. 352 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:01.839 You know, when it comes to. 353 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:06.160 Keeping up to date with the latest things and reading, 354 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:07.799 I know that that's something else you need. You need 355 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:09.880 to kind of clone yourself at points I would imagine 356 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:11.720 to sit there and it's like I need to have 357 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:14.440 this version of me do this and get back to me. 358 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.039 I need to have this version of me do this 359 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:18.519 and get back to me. How difficult, is it to 360 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:23.359 juggle all of the different use to make sure that 361 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:26.960 you are devoting the amount of effort that you want 362 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.400 to devote to all of these different us these days. 363 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:33.000 Yeah, there's a challenge for sure, because you know where 364 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:35.960 they're in the Rhode Island hat and then the mentoring hat, 365 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:42.000 and then obviously the dad hat. And yeah, it's sometimes 366 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:48.960 you know, there's overlap and decisions and I could do 367 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.000 a lot more traveling to Rhode Island to Atlanta two 368 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:57.519 events and things, but that takes away from the dad 369 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.440 hat a lot. And the Dad hats the most important 370 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.359 hat right now. So you know, there's always decisions to make, 371 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.839 and I've learned to say no and that's important and 372 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.920 so you know, I do what I can and know that, hey, 373 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:12.440 that's the best I can do right now. 374 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.359 Tom Ayo, the Executive director, League's Cup joining us in 375 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.359 about ten minutes after we have our Friday free Kick conversation. 376 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:20.559 I guess catching up with Cap is probably the best 377 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:22.160 way to phrase what we're doing today. 378 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:24.119 Is this true, sir? 379 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:27.920 What Ropes has brought to the table, The Big Red 380 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:29.559 is going to be a part of BGM. 381 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:31.200 Is this true? 382 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.720 Big Red was originally part of the conversation when we 383 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:37.799 were starting BGM. 384 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:41.359 Okay, it was the three of us that we're. 385 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.359 Going to start BGM, and then he decided, you know what, 386 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.960 I'm going to focus on on the field coaching and 387 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:53.200 I'll leave them mentoring to you all. So he was 388 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:55.720 part of it at the startup, helped us build the 389 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:59.680 websites and do some things and had discussions, but then 390 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:02.759 he just decided, no, I'm going to focus elsewhere. So 391 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:07.759 he's not joining us. No, but we will have I 392 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.240 believe John, and I've said this for a few weeks 393 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:14.559 I think. But Monday or Tuesday we're supposed to announce 394 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.200 our newest mentor so we're excited for that. 395 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:24.480 I bet you know, I mean, you know. I mean, 396 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:28.160 it's just this is part of the growth that we 397 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:28.759 talk about. 398 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:37.400 It's h holding holding us, holding us hostage Informationally, it's like, hey, 399 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.319 wait a minute, wait, this is promised. 400 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:41.440 Who is this individual? 401 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.359