Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. As
Speaker 1: we continue to navigate through the murders in Moscow, we
Speaker 1: have heard from several different experts, several different people who
Speaker 1: are familiar with the area, familiar with these kinds of investigations,
Speaker 1: and familiar with how these things usually go. Well, today
Speaker 1: we're hearing from another person who has intimate knowledge of
Speaker 1: the area, somebody who has visited the house before, and
Speaker 1: somebody who has a few things of interest that they're saying. Now, obviously,
Speaker 1: this is this person's speculation, and I just want to
Speaker 1: be clear about that. This isn't somebody who is involved
Speaker 1: in this investigation, but it's an ex law enforcement official
Speaker 1: in Idaho and somebody who has been in this house physically.
Speaker 1: So I thought that their opinion would be a quality
Speaker 1: addition to the catalog. With that said, let's get into
Speaker 1: this article from Fox News and let's get to it
Speaker 1: headlined former Idaho prosecutor who visited the house where students
Speaker 1: were murdered reveals the killer's possible path. Now, this is
Speaker 1: a conversation plenty of people have been having. How did
Speaker 1: the killer get in, how did they access the house,
Speaker 1: and how were they able to maneuver the way they
Speaker 1: were able to maneuver in basic secrecy, considering nobody saw anything,
Speaker 1: no neighbors. So far, we haven't seen any sort of
Speaker 1: video evidence. So how did the person get in? Well,
Speaker 1: this prosecutor, he has a few ideas. Idaho police say
Speaker 1: that two victims were found on the second floor of
Speaker 1: the house, with the other two being found on the
Speaker 1: third floor. This article was authored by Adam Sabes, a
Speaker 1: former Idaho Attorney General and lieutenant governor who has been
Speaker 1: inside the house where four University of Idaho's students were
Speaker 1: killed on November thirteenth, says the suspect likely entered the
Speaker 1: house through a back door. Now we've heard through the
Speaker 1: side door, we've heard the front door. Maybe you know
Speaker 1: everything in between. And of course we just have speculation
Speaker 1: at this point because the police they're not going to
Speaker 1: come out and confirm or deny one way or the other,
Speaker 1: especially a crucial bit of information like that. Police believe
Speaker 1: that the University of Idaho's students Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle,
Speaker 1: Madison Mogan, and Kaylee Gonsalvez were all stabbed multiple times
Speaker 1: in their sleep during the early morning hours of November thirteenth,
Speaker 1: between three am and four am in a home on
Speaker 1: King Road in Moscow, Idaho. Official say the attacker used
Speaker 1: a fixed blade knife in the incident that left the
Speaker 1: four students dead. And when you're talking about a knife
Speaker 1: attack and something so up close and personal, it's just
Speaker 1: almost too grizzly to imagine somebody being able to do this,
Speaker 1: and then not only being able to do it, but
Speaker 1: to put their head down on a pillow every night
Speaker 1: and go to sleep. I don't understand how that's even possible.
Speaker 1: You have to be a legitimate monster for that to
Speaker 1: be the case. Dave Leroy, who previously served as Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Governor of Idaho, Attorney General and Ada County Prosecuting Attorney,
Speaker 1: told Fox News Digital that he was inside that house
Speaker 1: four years ago. Leroy said he was at the university
Speaker 1: during homecoming and was invited to the house where his
Speaker 1: client's son was living at the time. Describing the layout
Speaker 1: of the house, Leroy said that updates have been done
Speaker 1: since he was there, and we know that the floor
Speaker 1: plan has been changed. Obviously, the owner who owns this
Speaker 1: house wants to maximize his revenue or her revenue when
Speaker 1: they're renting it out. So if you go through and
Speaker 1: you gut it, you know, redo it, put down new floors, whatever,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have more of a selling point if you're
Speaker 1: trying to rent it out. So it makes sense that
Speaker 1: you know, the floor plan would change. There are two
Speaker 1: separate entries, and this house lays against a hill. Leroy said,
Speaker 1: if a perpetrator went into the lower level of the
Speaker 1: parking lot, they would enter into a general living area
Speaker 1: and a kitchen area with a couple of bedrooms and
Speaker 1: the back of a first floor. If the perpetrator entered
Speaker 1: into the second floor, they would have done so higher
Speaker 1: up on the hill, to an almost separate section of
Speaker 1: the house, which contains bedrooms and bathrooms on the second
Speaker 1: and third floor, where apparently, according to reports, most of
Speaker 1: the killings took place, well, all of the killings took
Speaker 1: place second and third floor. Nobody got killed on the
Speaker 1: first floor, and it seems likely to me that it
Speaker 1: was this sliding glass door that was utilized. Obviously I
Speaker 1: can't prove that, but when you look at the layout
Speaker 1: of the house and you realize that the girls on
Speaker 1: the bottom floor weren't harmed, then it's pretty obvious to me.
Speaker 1: Anyway that sliding glass door was utilized to gain access
Speaker 1: into this home. Leroy also believes that, based on information
Speaker 1: officials have previously given regarding the locations of the victims,
Speaker 1: the killer likely entered through the back of the house.
Speaker 1: That would be my speculation, but I certainly would defer
Speaker 1: to the police investigation on that.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: It is, however, a logical conclusion derived from the fact
Speaker 1: that the homicides were committed on the upper floors and
Speaker 1: people were apparently left undisturbed on the lower floors. And
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in Okham's raiser, right, so the
Speaker 1: most likely outcome is usually the right one, and for me,
Speaker 1: the likely outcome here is that they went through this
Speaker 1: sliding glass door. He said that it wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: necessary for the attacker to go downstairs if the crimes
Speaker 1: were committed on the upper levels.
Speaker 2: That's a fact.
Speaker 1: And whether the girls downstairs weren't targeted, or the killer
Speaker 1: ran out of time or whatever it might be, those
Speaker 1: girls obviously weren't harmed. If two people were in the
Speaker 1: lower level, it would not be necessary for the killer
Speaker 1: to go downstairs or to pass by their bedrooms. When
Speaker 1: the crime was committed if they would access into and
Speaker 1: out of the upper floor against the hire up on
Speaker 1: the hill section of the house, Leroy said, and again,
Speaker 1: it just makes sense that that would be the access point.
Speaker 1: I highly doubt the killer is going to come strolling
Speaker 1: in the front door. I mean, who knows this person
Speaker 1: or person's They were brazen, so maybe that's possible, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem likely. When officers arrived at the King
Speaker 1: Road residence around noon on November thirteenth, two of the
Speaker 1: victims were found on the second floor and two other
Speaker 1: victims were found on the third floor. Please say Steve Gonsalveez,
Speaker 1: the father of Kaylee, said during a vigil remembering the
Speaker 1: four victims, that his daughter died together in the same room,
Speaker 1: in the same bed as Mogan. It's a shame and
Speaker 1: it hurts, but the beauty of the two always being
Speaker 1: together is something that will always comfort us. It lets
Speaker 1: us know that they were with their best friends in
Speaker 1: the whole world. It's like a book. Gonsalves said, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt it's like a book, a bad book
Speaker 1: at this point, and the fact that there's still really
Speaker 1: no information to go on is pretty scary. You would
Speaker 1: think that in a town like this, a small, little
Speaker 1: college town, that if it's somebody in the circle of
Speaker 1: these girls of Ethan, that there would have been a
Speaker 1: little movement already. And again, in a small town like this,
Speaker 1: you always have rumors, you have scuttle butt, and nobody's
Speaker 1: able to keep a secret. So if they were zeroing
Speaker 1: in on somebody, I think we would know about that
Speaker 1: by now, But we haven't heard anything like that. We
Speaker 1: haven't heard anything really accept some backtracking and basically them saying,
Speaker 1: see what had happened was after their mistakes and it's
Speaker 1: just not a good look. Now. As far as giving
Speaker 1: information to the parents, I would probably steer away from
Speaker 1: that if I was the investigators as well, considering all
Speaker 1: of the interviews that they're giving. You don't want to
Speaker 1: give out any important information and then have that information,
Speaker 1: you know, get out to the press, right. You want
Speaker 1: to make sure that you're keeping everything with a tight
Speaker 1: lid on it. That way, you have this conviction later
Speaker 1: on down the road, hopefully that's going to stand up
Speaker 1: in court. And really that's what the whole goal is.
Speaker 1: So I understand why they're taking their time, why they're
Speaker 1: trying to be thorough or at least give the appearance
Speaker 1: of being thorough, and why they're not saying more in public.
Speaker 1: But when you have the messaging that we've had thus far,
Speaker 1: and you have walk backs, you have correction to the record,
Speaker 1: it's just really bad and it opens the investigation itself
Speaker 1: up to a lot more criticism. You know, they talk about, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we don't want to deal in rumor, we don't want
Speaker 1: to deal in misinformation, but they themselves have caused a
Speaker 1: lot of that rumor and they've caused a lot of
Speaker 1: that misinformation. My hope is that they're learning as they
Speaker 1: go here, and they're adjusting on the fly, because I
Speaker 1: totally understand that this is a monumental task. This is
Speaker 1: a huge, huge task, a gigantic, sprawling investigation with many
Speaker 1: moving parts, and when you're not the man in the arena,
Speaker 1: it's very easy to criticize things from the sidelines. So
Speaker 1: I try to refrain from that as much as possible
Speaker 1: as far as the investigation itself. But there has been
Speaker 1: so many missteps throughout this whole thing, and a lot
Speaker 1: of misinformation that has come from the investigators themselves, And
Speaker 1: then you add on top of that some of the
Speaker 1: interviews that we have seen with families, and last night
Speaker 1: on Banfield, for example, there was an interview and you know,
Speaker 1: they were talking about how they believe Kaylee's family that
Speaker 1: they believe that some of the suspects or some of
Speaker 1: the perceived suspects were cleared too quickly.
Speaker 2: And I said that right away too.
Speaker 1: How could you clear people that quickly without DNA coming
Speaker 1: back or anything like that. So, look, there are way
Speaker 1: more questions than there are answers in this case, and
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to navigate through it and try
Speaker 1: and find the truth because I think one thing everybody
Speaker 1: can agree on, investigators and those of us following the case,
Speaker 1: is that justice is a must. All right, folks. That's
Speaker 1: going to do it for me. If you'd like to
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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. I
Speaker 1: think in the wake of the murders that happened at
Speaker 1: King Road. A lot of people were asking themselves, how
Speaker 1: is it that nobody downstairs heard what was going on?
Speaker 1: And now we're hearing from an ex tenant who lived
Speaker 1: at King Road and they say that you could hear
Speaker 1: everything downstairs that was going on upstairs. However, we have
Speaker 1: to remember that this was a party house, and the
Speaker 1: downstairs roommates probably thought that there were just people over
Speaker 1: hanging out, having some drinks and having a good time.
Speaker 1: So if you don't want to be involved in that
Speaker 1: as a roommate, why would you leave your room to
Speaker 1: go investigate? It could be a million different things, right,
Speaker 1: The other girls could have friends over, a boy could
Speaker 1: be over, There could be a party going on upstairs.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is.
Speaker 1: You would think that that's pretty commonplace for a house
Speaker 1: like this. The more we learn about it, the more
Speaker 1: that we know there were pregaming there. People were always
Speaker 1: hanging out, so it would make sense that there would
Speaker 1: be people over at all hours of the night if
Speaker 1: you're the roommates downstairs. So I doubt that they didn't
Speaker 1: hear anything as far as you know, people walking around
Speaker 1: or anything like that.
Speaker 2: But they probably thought that it was.
Speaker 1: Just the regular going ons of the night, a regular
Speaker 1: old weekend. People over and we're having a good time.
Speaker 1: But according to a former tenant who lived in this building,
Speaker 1: this house, he says that when he lived there, you
Speaker 1: could hear everything going on upstairs downstairs. So let's get
Speaker 1: into this article from the Daily Mail and let's see
Speaker 1: what's going on here. Headline X tenant of Idaho murder
Speaker 1: house says you could hear footsteps on every floor at
Speaker 1: night and cannot believe no one woke during the killings,
Speaker 1: as brutal knife things of four students continues to baffle
Speaker 1: cops in a small town, and not just in the
Speaker 1: small town. It's baffling everybody, the FBI included. So I
Speaker 1: know we want to be critical of the Moscow Police Department,
Speaker 1: but we have to remember it's not just them doing
Speaker 1: this themselves. They have the help of the FEDS, they
Speaker 1: have the ISP on board, and I'm sure that they
Speaker 1: have help from other departments if they request it. But
Speaker 1: with that said, the fact remains there's still no arrest.
Speaker 1: There's still nobody who's in handcuffs for this murder. Today's
Speaker 1: article was authored by Alex Hammer, an ex tenant of
Speaker 1: the house where four University of Idaho's students were stabbed
Speaker 1: to death, has offered an interesting revelation in the case,
Speaker 1: revealing that every footstep can be heard in the creaky
Speaker 1: old home. Now. I don't know how many of you
Speaker 1: have experience with basements and stuff like that, but I
Speaker 1: know that some of my families homes in New York,
Speaker 1: they have basements and downstairs you can hear everything going
Speaker 1: on in the house. Now, a lot of these homes
Speaker 1: are very old colonial homes, so there's that to take
Speaker 1: into account. But you can hear everything downstairs. But we
Speaker 1: have to remember all of the context around what happened
Speaker 1: at King Road, the fact that there's always people there.
Speaker 1: These girls are hanging out downstairs. Maybe they were a
Speaker 1: little drunk too, So there's a lot of factors that
Speaker 1: go into it as to why they might not have
Speaker 1: heard what was going on upstairs. The detail was offered
Speaker 1: up Friday by Cole Altender, adding to the confusion as
Speaker 1: to how the other roommates slept so soundly on the
Speaker 1: first floor while the students were murdered on the second
Speaker 1: and third floors. More than a month has passed since
Speaker 1: students Kaylee gone, Solvice Madison Mogan, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan
Speaker 1: Chapin were all stabbed to death inside the three story
Speaker 1: home late November thirteenth. There's no doubt that all of
Speaker 1: this is confusing, and there's a lot of questions that
Speaker 1: remain and need to be answered. When it comes to
Speaker 1: the surviving roommates, they have been cleared by the investigators,
Speaker 1: just like Jack. So my guess is whatever the investigators
Speaker 1: found at the crime scene during their investigation leads them
Speaker 1: to believe that the two surviving roommates had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with this here and that they slept through this
Speaker 1: whole entire altercation. That is what the investigation by the
Speaker 1: police has uncovered, and that's what they have told the public.
Speaker 1: But even with that official account, there's still a lot
Speaker 1: of things that people don't understand, and it's hard for
Speaker 1: people to wrap their mind around the fact that someone
Speaker 1: can sleep through these kinds of murders. Cops have so
Speaker 1: far discerned that the slangs occurred between three am and
Speaker 1: as and not much else. Moscow Police Chief James Fry,
Speaker 1: who oversees the small city of twenty five thousand, has
Speaker 1: said he has no clue who or where the killer
Speaker 1: is and has faced criticism. Anytime you're the lead investigator
Speaker 1: in a case like this, you're going to face all
Speaker 1: kinds of criticism. You're going to face all kinds of
Speaker 1: people who are looking at what's going on and having
Speaker 1: their own opinions. It's just the nature of the business.
Speaker 1: Each floor has two bedrooms and a bathroom. All Tender,
Speaker 1: who graduated in twenty twenty two, lived in a bedroom
Speaker 1: on the second floor of the house, directly above one
Speaker 1: of the first floor bedrooms. He described Friday how tenants
Speaker 1: could hear footsteps resonate throughout virtually every part of the home.
Speaker 1: It's a very creaky old house. All Tender, who lived
Speaker 1: at the home during his junior year, told Fox News
Speaker 1: and several other outlets in a series of interviews. You
Speaker 1: can hear the footsteps on every floor, and I don't
Speaker 1: doubt that. But if these girls were sleeping and they
Speaker 1: wake up and hear a bang or something like that,
Speaker 1: it's pretty safe to assume that they thought that it
Speaker 1: was just a party going on up there and somebody's
Speaker 1: stumbling around drunk. He added to ABC News. You can't
Speaker 1: walk up any of the stairs or any of the
Speaker 1: floors without everybody in the house knowing it all. Tenander,
Speaker 1: a former track stand out at the school who lived
Speaker 1: on the floor where college lovers Chapin and Kernodle were found,
Speaker 1: went on to a call how when he lived there,
Speaker 1: his roommates below him could hear virtually everything he did
Speaker 1: in his room. The person who lived below me always
Speaker 1: said he could hear me walking around all. Tenander told
Speaker 1: Fox News I had a desk in a rolling chair,
Speaker 1: and he could hear that rolling around. And again, I
Speaker 1: don't dispute that. I've been in these older houses where
Speaker 1: you can hear everything downstairs, So I don't dispute that
Speaker 1: for a minute.
Speaker 2: For me, though, I don't know how much that.
Speaker 1: Matters, considering these two girls were probably I'm guessing asleep
Speaker 1: and being a Saturday night. Did they have one tied on?
Speaker 1: Were they out having some drinks? I know that when
Speaker 1: I used to drink, when I would fall asleep. Forget it.
Speaker 1: That's a wrap. I'ming lights out. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: hear anyone walking around upstairs.
Speaker 2: He added.
Speaker 1: The home, set in a cul de sac called Fratlantis
Speaker 1: by students due to its proximity to fraternity Row, also
Speaker 1: boasted poor insulation, a ventilation system that allowed tenants to
Speaker 1: hear everybody talking throughout the house. He said he and
Speaker 1: his roommates were used to the noises and eventually learned
Speaker 1: to tune them out. The neighborhood all Tenander added, boasted
Speaker 1: a very active party life, which carried over into their house.
Speaker 1: So if you got used to them when you live there,
Speaker 1: wouldn't that lead us to believe that the girls also
Speaker 1: got used to all of those noises and thought it
Speaker 1: was just because that's the logical.
Speaker 2: Place to go here.
Speaker 1: If you're used to hearing all that creaking around, and
Speaker 1: then you're hanging out in your bedroom one Saturday night
Speaker 1: like any other Saturday night, and you hear people walking
Speaker 1: around or creaking or activity upstairs, why would you think
Speaker 1: it's something out of the usual if it's something that's
Speaker 1: always going on. So, you see, it makes more sense
Speaker 1: when we get more context, Right, how someone could sleep
Speaker 1: through it? How somebody cannot know something's going on upstairs
Speaker 1: when it's always going on upstairs, meaning something's always cracking off. Well,
Speaker 1: why would you think tonight is all of a sudden
Speaker 1: out of the norm. Now it's easy to Monday morning
Speaker 1: quarterback and use hindsight and say I should have done this,
Speaker 1: that or the other thing. But in real time, to
Speaker 1: these girls downstairs, my guess is this was just a
Speaker 1: regular old night. A lot of students are very familiar
Speaker 1: with the inside of the home, he described. At parties,
Speaker 1: people would hop the fence and just like walk away
Speaker 1: if the cops came. Now, I know how that goes.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, forget it. The second the jakes
Speaker 1: would roll up, your boy would be gone. Zero chance
Speaker 1: I was sticking around to get some kind of ticket
Speaker 1: for drinking or anything like that. So I feel that
Speaker 1: you hop over the wall, whatever. And when you have
Speaker 1: one of these well known party houses, there's always those
Speaker 1: kinds of escape routes right over the wall, through the bushes,
Speaker 1: through the neighbor's yard, always a way to get away
Speaker 1: from the police. He further told Fox that hundreds of
Speaker 1: students had likely been in the home at some point
Speaker 1: or another and thus knew the layout. He said of
Speaker 1: the local police force's failure to so far glean a suspect,
Speaker 1: I think everybody expected an arrest. I know I did.
Speaker 1: I most certainly did. When you have something like this occur,
Speaker 1: it doesn't usually drag. As long as we're seeing here,
Speaker 1: there's usually signs, you know, some smoke where there's some fire,
Speaker 1: something like that, but not here. We haven't heard anything
Speaker 1: about any potential suspects.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 1: Moscow Police, who have faced rampant criticism from the general
Speaker 1: public and the families of the slain, recently announced that
Speaker 1: their investigation will continue over the university's winter break. Well,
Speaker 1: of course there's a police work. You're not working at
Speaker 1: the local convenience store or something where you get some
Speaker 1: days off. You gotta keep grinding, right, The tips are
Speaker 1: gonna keep coming in and the case is gonna keep growing.
Speaker 1: And with so many students having access to this house,
Speaker 1: being there, coming there, going there, going to parties, could
Speaker 1: it be that somebody who was on the outside and
Speaker 1: watching these girls slipped in during one of those parties
Speaker 1: like an attendee.
Speaker 2: Very possible.
Speaker 1: Look, we just don't know, And I think that's the
Speaker 1: thing that has so many people so invested in what's
Speaker 1: going on here, because usually when we have a situation
Speaker 1: like this, there is some kind of break in the
Speaker 1: case by now and you start to see which way
Speaker 1: things are going. But we still have not seen that.
Speaker 1: So I thought it would be a good ad to
Speaker 1: hear from this ex tenant and try and get some
Speaker 1: context around the sound as far as as people walking
Speaker 1: around in the house while the roommates are downstairs. Now,
Speaker 1: there's a couple more paragraphs to this article, but it's
Speaker 1: just rehashing stuff we've talked about, you know, the basics
Speaker 1: of the case. So we're not gonna dive into that,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna wrap it up right here. But I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting to hear from this X roommate
Speaker 1: or this X tenant about their experience while living in
Speaker 1: this house because that's definitely context to what's going on
Speaker 1: as far as the noises you hear being downstairs, and
Speaker 1: with all of the confusion around how these roommates could
Speaker 1: have slept through this, it's certainly interesting to hear from
Speaker 1: this ex tenant about his own experiences. All Right, folks,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this one. If you'd like
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Speaker 1: description box. Airline Up, everyone, and welcome back to the program.
Speaker 1: During the morning update, we were talking about the bodycam
Speaker 1: footage that has recently been released, so I figured we
Speaker 1: take some time and try and add a little more
Speaker 1: context to what they're talking about as far as this
Speaker 1: bodycam footage from September first is concerned. So let's just
Speaker 1: jump right in and get to it. This article is
Speaker 1: from the Independent headline bodycam shows Moscow police responding to
Speaker 1: unrelated NOIS complaint at victims home months before murders. Footage
Speaker 1: has now emerged of Moscow police officers responding to a
Speaker 1: NOIS complaint on September first at the victim's home. This
Speaker 1: article was authored by Andrea Blanco. Police investigating the murders
Speaker 1: of four University of Idaho students are not immediately ruling
Speaker 1: out a connection between the crime and a preceding police
Speaker 1: visit at the crime scene regarding a noise complaint. Now,
Speaker 1: this is the kind of call that I'm sure the
Speaker 1: Moscow Police Department are used to getting, not one for
Speaker 1: a quadruple homicide. So the officers showed up, they responded
Speaker 1: to the complaint, and they found that there was a
Speaker 1: party going on, but none of the residents who lived
Speaker 1: there were on the premises. Kaylee Gonsalvez, Madison Mogan, Ethan Chapin,
Speaker 1: and Xanakernodle were stabbed to death in the early morning
Speaker 1: hours of November thirteenth inside the young women's off campus
Speaker 1: rental home at eleven twenty two King Road. More than
Speaker 1: six weeks after the murders, the killer remains at large.
Speaker 1: Bodycam footage has now emerged of Moscow police officers responding
Speaker 1: to a noise complaint on September first at their residence. Now,
Speaker 1: this doesn't strike me as all that odd. As I've
Speaker 1: said several times before. When you're in college, you're living
Speaker 1: close to campus, people come over, you're partying, having kickbacks,
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, it's going to get noisy, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of the other neighbors, who might not
Speaker 1: be in college aren't big fans of it, so they
Speaker 1: call the police. In the body cam obtained by News Nation,
Speaker 1: officers repeatedly asked the people to speak to who lived
Speaker 1: in the house, while several young adults are seen leaving
Speaker 1: the home. So for me, what I take from this
Speaker 1: is that there were a lot of people who had
Speaker 1: access to this house even when the roommates weren't home,
Speaker 1: So logically that would mean that some of these people
Speaker 1: at the very least had the key code to get
Speaker 1: into that front door. So when you're talking about who
Speaker 1: might have done it, who might have been involved here,
Speaker 1: there are so many factors that go into this, so
Speaker 1: much DNA at this house from random people that the
Speaker 1: police certainly have their job cut out for them, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. And having those extra resources down
Speaker 1: from the FBI, having the ISP involved, it's going to
Speaker 1: help them out tremendously because there's no way without those
Speaker 1: resources that they'd be able to handle any of this.
Speaker 1: Loud music and partying can be heard as officers then
Speaker 1: proceed to dump cans of beer left behind in the
Speaker 1: parking lot. Two men who answered the door told officers
Speaker 1: that they believed the residents were females, but did not
Speaker 1: know them personally. Eventually, authorities got Mogan on the phone
Speaker 1: and warned her to tell people partying inside the home
Speaker 1: to turn down the volume. So she wasn't even there,
Speaker 1: The roommates weren't even there, and these kids were having
Speaker 1: a rip roar. Like I said in the morning update.
Speaker 1: I remember those same kinds of parties when I was
Speaker 1: in college, going to people's houses while they weren't there,
Speaker 1: people waiting for me at my house while I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: But usually there was a roommate or something hanging out.
Speaker 1: At least here, it was just everybody was there, hanging
Speaker 1: out and partying. I don't know how that occurred. Maybe
Speaker 1: there was a party earlier and all of the roommates
Speaker 1: who lived there decided, Hey, we're going to bounce, and
Speaker 1: all of the stragglers remained behind to finish the kickback
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: My guess is.
Speaker 1: And folks, this is just a guess, just speculation that
Speaker 1: the people that were there weren't complete strangers, but there
Speaker 1: were people who were part of the sorority that were
Speaker 1: there as well, and those people were probably left with
Speaker 1: the task of managing what was going on at this
Speaker 1: house as far as the kickback goes. And we all
Speaker 1: know how nineteen and twenty year old college kids can get. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to manage this party, but first, let me
Speaker 1: do a keg stand. So it doesn't strike me as
Speaker 1: all that shocking that there were people in this home
Speaker 1: while these kids weren't there, but certainly it is a
Speaker 1: security risk, no doubt about it. You don't want strangers
Speaker 1: trapesing through your pad. You don't want people knowing you know,
Speaker 1: your security systems or anything like that.
Speaker 2: And when too many.
Speaker 1: People have access to a property and then something like
Speaker 1: this goes wrong, it makes things a lot more difficult
Speaker 1: to track down who might have been involved. In a
Speaker 1: statement to the Independent, Idaho State Police said on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: investigators are aware of prior contacts at the residents and
Speaker 1: throughout the neighborhood. At this time, we are not counting
Speaker 1: anything out and continue to investigate anything that might have
Speaker 1: relevance to the case. So they're going to look at it.
Speaker 1: Of course, is it going to be relevant when all
Speaker 1: is said and done. I have no idea, but it's
Speaker 1: good to see that no stone is going unturned. Every
Speaker 1: last bit of evidence needs to be processed, every last
Speaker 1: tip needs to be looked at. And while that's a meticulous,
Speaker 1: slow process, that's their best bet to finding whoever did this.
Speaker 1: Along with the tips from the public. That is exactly
Speaker 1: how this person or persons are going to eventually get caught. Gonsalves,
Speaker 1: Smogan and Kernodle lived in the six bedroom home with
Speaker 1: two other University of Idaho students who are inside the
Speaker 1: property at the time of the attack, but are believed
Speaker 1: to have slept through it. It is unclear whether any
Speaker 1: of them were inside the home at the time. Neighbors
Speaker 1: of the victims had previously called the residents a party house,
Speaker 1: saying they would often see groups of young adults gathering
Speaker 1: at the home several times a week. There were parties
Speaker 1: that were.
Speaker 2: Kind of loud.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Reagan, a third year law student who lives near
Speaker 1: the scene of the murders, told Fox News about a
Speaker 1: week before a week after the attacks, as I would
Speaker 1: take my dog in and out to go to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: and I would see people in the windows almost every night,
Speaker 1: probably four or five nights a week. It was kind
Speaker 1: of a party house. But then again, this whole neighborhood
Speaker 1: is a party neighborhood. Bro, you live on a street
Speaker 1: with a bunch of frat houses and sorority houses, what
Speaker 1: do you think is going to go down? Do you
Speaker 1: think they're just gonna go about their business and nobody's
Speaker 1: going to be doing keg stands and chugging whatever the
Speaker 1: hell they're chugging these days because that's what college kids do.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to live by a frat house,
Speaker 1: I have bad news for you. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be a pleasure an experience if you're somebody who wants
Speaker 1: peace and quiet, because these kids are wilding out, especially
Speaker 1: when there's an event, a football game or something like that.
Speaker 2: Forget it.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna be pregaming, having some beers, having some drinks, partying, yelling,
Speaker 1: being loud. So if you're looking for peace and quiet,
Speaker 1: my suggestion a college town is probably not the right
Speaker 1: place for you. Moscow police have reiterated that there were
Speaker 1: no signs of forest entry, so that's where this could
Speaker 1: come in and be kind of interesting. Right, all of
Speaker 1: the people that had access to this house, it's going
Speaker 1: to be hard to track down everybody who might have
Speaker 1: known key combinations and stuff like that, or code combinations.
Speaker 1: I mean, but maybe this will provide a lead at
Speaker 1: some point. Again, every bit of information has to be processed.
Speaker 1: It is the only way. Unfortunately, this is like climbing
Speaker 1: K two without any os. That's how difficult it is.
Speaker 1: You have to piece it all together. I mean, for
Speaker 1: the investigators, they have to piece everything altogether and recreate
Speaker 1: basically what happened that night, And unless you have the
Speaker 1: evidence and the information to go on, you're not going
Speaker 1: to have a full robust picture of the events. So obviously,
Speaker 1: as an investigator, if you don't have all of the information,
Speaker 1: how are you going to find the suspect. Meanwhile, investigators
Speaker 1: are still on the hunt for the occupant or occupants
Speaker 1: of a mystery white car, which was spotted near the
Speaker 1: student home around the time of the murders. Police have
Speaker 1: identified around twenty two thousand vehicles that fit the description
Speaker 1: of the car and are combing through the information for clues.
Speaker 1: Moscow Police said that a white twenty and eleven through
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen Hondai a Lantra with an unknown license plate
Speaker 1: was seen in the immediate area in the early hours
Speaker 1: of November thirteenth. The license plate is interesting for me too.
Speaker 1: Is there actually a license plate on this vehicle or
Speaker 1: are there no plates? It says an unknown plate, so
Speaker 1: that's kind of vague. I'd like a little more clarity there,
Speaker 1: but I doubt we'll get it. Investigators believe the occupant
Speaker 1: or occupants of this vehicle may have critical information to
Speaker 1: share regarding this case, police said in a statement nearly
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, the four victims were stabbed to death
Speaker 1: in their beds with a fixed blade knife at around
Speaker 1: three am or four am on November thirteenth. There were
Speaker 1: no signs of sexual assault. Two surviving roommates were also
Speaker 1: out that night and arrives home at around one am.
Speaker 1: Police said. The two women, who lived in rooms on
Speaker 1: the first floor of the home, are believed to have
Speaker 1: slept through the brutal killings and were unharmed later on
Speaker 1: down the road. When this killer is caught or these
Speaker 1: killers are caught eventually, I would really love to hear
Speaker 1: the story that the roommates have to tell.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Are they ever going to tell their story? I have
Speaker 1: no idea, but if they ever wanted to, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that they would find an audience who would be willing
Speaker 1: to listen. The horrific crime scene when unnoticed for several
Speaker 1: more hours, with police receiving a nine to one to
Speaker 1: one call at eleven fifty eight am on Sunday reporting
Speaker 1: an unconscious individual at the home. The two other roommates
Speaker 1: had first called friends to the home because they believed
Speaker 1: one of the second floor victims was unconscious and would
Speaker 1: not wake up when the friends arrived. A nine to
Speaker 1: one one call was made from one of the roommate's phones.
Speaker 1: Police arrived on the scene to find four victims dead
Speaker 1: from multiple stab wounds. So I just wanted to add
Speaker 1: a little more context to that body cam footage that
Speaker 1: we were talking about during the morning update. Now, is
Speaker 1: this footage going to end up being important to the
Speaker 1: investigation overall? We still don't know. But the more information
Speaker 1: we have, the more equipped and prepared the police department
Speaker 1: will be to get justice in this case. And I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, folks, but I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see the person or persons who did this doing the
Speaker 1: perp walk, all right, everybody that's going to do it
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