Speaker 1: Unless it crashes again here momentarily, I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: this thing to work. Then it tried to schedule it.
Speaker 1: I didn't set anything up for a schedule. Why is
Speaker 1: technology failing me right now? Are we actually live or not?
Speaker 1: That is what I'm here to do, is Harritt's manned
Speaker 1: got paid, So I'm trying to make sure we have
Speaker 1: coverage on that here on the first talk restream. Work
Speaker 1: with me, please, I still don't see the live up yet.
Speaker 1: If anybody is out there seeing this, they can get
Speaker 1: it to the chat. They let me know if we
Speaker 1: are in fact live or not, or if the stream
Speaker 1: is dot. It's feeling like that right now. Some people
Speaker 1: might feel like that typically anyways, Okay, I think we
Speaker 1: are good to hear, to go, good to go here,
Speaker 1: I should say, let me see if I can get
Speaker 1: my ducks in a row. My words are the right places,
Speaker 1: and get out of tweet because we are alive now
Speaker 1: it's happening. I'm gonna put out the tweet as there
Speaker 1: was breaking news with Terrence Man. I will tell you
Speaker 1: the contract details on this Clippers Talk Live as I
Speaker 1: shout out and put out the tweet here Clippers Talk
Speaker 1: Live Man gets paid, and I need a link for
Speaker 1: it now and then I'll be good. Somebody's in here,
Speaker 1: they're saying, what's up, Adam Okay, excited about this. We
Speaker 1: are fully operational once again. As I was getting a
Speaker 1: little bit flustered and frustrated with this live stream as
Speaker 1: why has it tried to crash on me for me
Speaker 1: going live? Now here it is? This is the live
Speaker 1: link at follow Adam Ay, So I'm glad we got
Speaker 1: some people in here. Happy days. Yes, Terrence Man has
Speaker 1: been paid. That Mexican says that's the screen name. I'm
Speaker 1: just reading it and what it says here. But we
Speaker 1: do have a live link out there now and now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot this bad boy over to our friend
Speaker 1: Law Mrie of d N you who may drop by,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure yet to discuss the Terrence Man contract
Speaker 1: details Man live stream emailing. Law would be nice to
Speaker 1: have his expertise here. People already asking is he getting
Speaker 1: traded or kept with Terrence Man. Let's start things right now.
Speaker 1: You're listening to a Clippers talk live. I'm at a
Speaker 1: Moslins frustrated with some of the live streams that for
Speaker 1: whatever reason failed me earlier. But We're up and runner now,
Speaker 1: and so is Terrence Man with your Los Angeles Clippers.
Speaker 1: As I do a little bit of a reset. Has
Speaker 1: he disagreed to a three year, four twenty seven million
Speaker 1: dollar contract extension with the franchise that came from Sham
Speaker 1: Sharania about one hour ago. This ain't exactly a news
Speaker 1: dump Friday now. Clipper Nation is very happy about this.
Speaker 1: In fact, Old Man Yen says, happy Friday, Clipper Nation. Uh,
Speaker 1: here's David Gibson saying substance overflash. Unlike the Lakers, the
Speaker 1: Clippers have always done that. Terrence Man is certainly a
Speaker 1: player of substance and one of my favorite Clippers of
Speaker 1: all time. He is your longest tenured Clipper, and now
Speaker 1: he is signed through the twenty seven to twenty eight season.
Speaker 1: People are already speculating about whether or not he could
Speaker 1: be traded summer reporting he is eligible to be traded
Speaker 1: this season. We know it beats a. Zubats is not
Speaker 1: he got his extension money. But this is good news
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping he's gonna be around for some time
Speaker 1: because he has been a great ambassador for Clippers basketball
Speaker 1: and has done whatever he has been asked to do,
Speaker 1: does this put him in the running now to be
Speaker 1: the starting two guard next to James Harden in the backcourt,
Speaker 1: since that was much of the conversation we had this
Speaker 1: week talking with La Murray, I think it was on Wednesday. Yes,
Speaker 1: after the pressure on Tuesday with Lawrence Frank and coach
Speaker 1: lou saying that, yeah, there's two starting spots up for grabs.
Speaker 1: Guys are going to be competing. You have to earn it.
Speaker 1: Earn it, Ryan, earn this. Sorry save a private Ryan reference.
Speaker 1: Not sure if everybody's into that, but I am very
Speaker 1: much excited for the Clippers and for team Man, especially here.
Speaker 1: This is a well earned contract gets him about sixteen
Speaker 1: million dollars per year, so a bump of about six
Speaker 1: million dollars up from what he was being paid on
Speaker 1: his last extension. But this is one of my favorite players,
Speaker 1: and yes, I thought he and Avitza Zubats, we're going
Speaker 1: to get paid this summer. Some people disagreed with that,
Speaker 1: and they are taking an l and a receipt for me,
Speaker 1: as I already posted something I said from a few
Speaker 1: months ago regarding both of these players being very very
Speaker 1: likely resigned on extensions because I couldn't see the Clippers
Speaker 1: letting Big Zoo or Terrence Man go. It just didn't
Speaker 1: make sense. You have two guys entering their prime, one
Speaker 1: who just turned twenty seven in a visa zubots and
Speaker 1: Terrence Man, I think is about to turn twenty eight
Speaker 1: next week. Let me check on this, Terrence Man. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so a couple more weeks, just before the season starts.
Speaker 1: His birthday's October eighteenth, he'll be turning twenty eight. You're
Speaker 1: getting two young guys that you've invested so much in
Speaker 1: in their prime. That's the way to do things. That's
Speaker 1: the way to run a business. And the Clippers front
Speaker 1: office hats off to them for getting this done. I
Speaker 1: invited Will Updyke and check my on, but they're not
Speaker 1: going to be able to make it. Unfortunately. Chuck does
Speaker 1: say he loves the extension. We had a pretty darn
Speaker 1: good clips and dips show for you. I think it
Speaker 1: happened last night. It's been a whirlwind for me.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you, Lick, did it happen
Speaker 1: last night? Did it happen Wednesday? I've been doing so
Speaker 1: many of these Clippers talk live shows recently that it's
Speaker 1: been hard to keep track of what the last show was.
Speaker 1: Who I talked about. I think we had Carlo Jimenez
Speaker 1: on your radio Voice of the Clippers just yesterday. As
Speaker 1: I'm trying to organize my thoughts here, old man Yen
Speaker 1: says they had tea man and all the initial into
Speaker 1: a Dome opening advertising. Yes, so they the organization must
Speaker 1: think highly of him. They do. Borne Frank was asked
Speaker 1: about contract negotiations on Tuesday, so they're trying to get
Speaker 1: a deal done. We have a listener from hopone Japan.
Speaker 1: This contract means he's getting starter, firm promise or not.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anything's promised. We'll find out. The
Speaker 1: good news is we'll have a little bit more clarity
Speaker 1: on Monday because it's media Day at into Dome for
Speaker 1: the first time. Its gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Starts at about ten am. I'll be there. I'll have
Speaker 1: all your media day coverage you could ever want. I'll
Speaker 1: be live streaming things. I'll do probably a couple of
Speaker 1: shows afterwards right afterwards. I just I am excited for
Speaker 1: Clippers basketball to get underway, and now I'm excited for
Speaker 1: team man Jay says, I've been saying this since they
Speaker 1: all signed the last beam at into it. I don't
Speaker 1: believe in curses, but Teman was the first to dunk
Speaker 1: it into it. If we trade him, this is how
Speaker 1: it starts. Let's go Clippers. Well hopefully that is not
Speaker 1: the plan. This doesn't look like anything close to he
Speaker 1: signed in trade situation, Roy says, how soon can he
Speaker 1: be traded after this extension in theory. My goodness, guys,
Speaker 1: how quickly we turned on our own in Terrence Man.
Speaker 1: Tim Bontemp says Man's deal is immediately eligible to be traded.
Speaker 1: Sources told ESPN that's interesting. I just don't see it
Speaker 1: happening right now. I'm not saying it wouldn't happen at
Speaker 1: some point. You know there are going to be moves
Speaker 1: and the rosters going to be fluid for the next
Speaker 1: couple of years. I think in very significant ways. It's
Speaker 1: a very tradable contract. You can certainly make that argument
Speaker 1: with Terrence Man, but you can never, as my guy
Speaker 1: Dime Dropper likes to say, you can never have too
Speaker 1: many wings three and d guys. In today's NBA Evilbot said,
Speaker 1: so you have time for clips and dips, but they
Speaker 1: don't have time for Clipper stock. Come on, now, this
Speaker 1: is just sprung on us. We planned out that clips
Speaker 1: and dip. We didn't know Terrence Man was going to
Speaker 1: be signed today to that extension. But we are all
Speaker 1: happy about it. Roy says, just saying, Man plus PJ
Speaker 1: plus Norm per a star if we are a top
Speaker 1: three seed. Interesting thought. I don't think those three guys
Speaker 1: are necessarily getting you a star. If you meet someone
Speaker 1: like Zach Levine, yeah, you'd probably be in the ballpark
Speaker 1: trading those three. And we know how the money could
Speaker 1: work out. We've been talking about this all summer long.
Speaker 1: But the problem with Zach Levine is he has an
Speaker 1: option in the summer of twenty twenty six on his
Speaker 1: deal that's about fifty million dollars, which if he takes it,
Speaker 1: then that takes up a lot of the salary cap
Speaker 1: during an off season where some pretty significant guys could
Speaker 1: be available. And we've been talking about this maybe shadow
Speaker 1: plan that the Clippers have of reloading in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: We have no idea if that's going to be the
Speaker 1: case or who's going to be available. Then people keep
Speaker 1: bringing up that Luka Doncis and sta can both be
Speaker 1: free agent In theory, yes they can be, but we
Speaker 1: don't know they could sign extensions. Before that, they were
Speaker 1: good winning organizations. Luka Doncis was just in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: They Oksey Thunder. They have most of the Clippers' picks.
Speaker 1: They're set up for the future. They just brought in
Speaker 1: Alex Caruso and their old friend Isaiah Hartenstein. So I
Speaker 1: suppose it couldn't be all positive right positives right now,
Speaker 1: roy I wouldn't do that for Brandon Ingram. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the Clippers would either. You have to pay
Speaker 1: him immediately after this season. That's why nothing has happened
Speaker 1: between him and the Pelicans in moving him yet, because
Speaker 1: every team that brings him in knows he could be
Speaker 1: a rental. You want to lose possibly tears Man and
Speaker 1: Norn Powell for nothing because you bring in Brandon Ingram
Speaker 1: and you're not able to resign him, or he just
Speaker 1: doesn't have a great year and you don't want to
Speaker 1: give him one hundred and fifty million dollars plus, which
Speaker 1: is what it's going to take. Jeremy Grant not a star,
Speaker 1: but he is on a contract deal that is pretty hefty.
Speaker 1: He just signed a five year contract extension for one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million dollars with the Portland Trailblazers. But
Speaker 1: we just review this for you. So this year he's
Speaker 1: making thirty million, Next year thirty two, the year after
Speaker 1: that thirty four, the year after that's a player option
Speaker 1: for thirty six. So that also would not fit in
Speaker 1: the timeline of having plenty of money available in the
Speaker 1: summer of twenty twenty six. If you bring in Jeremy
Speaker 1: Grant doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, I did
Speaker 1: have to clown my guy on X even though I
Speaker 1: love him. He was arguing with me, what was this
Speaker 1: back in July, talking about how much cap space the
Speaker 1: Clippers could have, and I said, well, you know, they're
Speaker 1: very likely extending if Heast, the Zubats and Terrence Man,
Speaker 1: so I don't know if they're going to have one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars worth of cap space, which is what
Speaker 1: he was saying late in August, and he was kind
Speaker 1: of against. He said, there's a real possibility, especially with
Speaker 1: the way t Man said we were talking about in
Speaker 1: a contract extension last offseason, that things and feelings could change.
Speaker 1: And I said, bro, it's not that real of the possibility. Now,
Speaker 1: to his credit, JD thirteen said, you could be right.
Speaker 1: I said I am. Dear God, I said, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm ridiculous with the receipts. I will try to
Speaker 1: do better. This is the conversation. Yes, I said I
Speaker 1: am when he said he very well could be right, Adam,
Speaker 1: stay humble. Stop being so cocky about it. I guess
Speaker 1: it's too late, since I already retreated this thread to
Speaker 1: prove that I was right about them giving contract extensions
Speaker 1: to it beats the Zubats and to Terrence Man, I'm
Speaker 1: just happy for them. Who cares about me being right
Speaker 1: about this? That's not what's important here, guys. Whoo, I
Speaker 1: need to relax. Twitter does not bring out the best
Speaker 1: at us and that was revealing. Ah, yes, Roy, you
Speaker 1: forgot about that extension. Why did Portland do that? Because
Speaker 1: Portland has a very tough time enticing free agents. So
Speaker 1: when they can get somebody like Jeremy Grant on their
Speaker 1: team and they can keep them, they're going to It's
Speaker 1: still a tradable contract. Someone might do it at some point,
Speaker 1: so it's a good asset for them. Camis Mio says
Speaker 1: eight points per game, not a lot as a starter
Speaker 1: after five years, scared of his own shadow and won't
Speaker 1: shoot three years guaranteed with no option is wild, And
Speaker 1: that's wild, is your statement. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: realize this, but Terrence Man has been playing next to Kawhi,
Speaker 1: next to Paul George, next to James Harden, and they
Speaker 1: don't necessarily need a lot of scoring when you had
Speaker 1: all three of those guys. That's not what he was
Speaker 1: there to do. Let me try to explain the impact
Speaker 1: of Terrence Man very simple. Since the end of the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three season when he got into that starting
Speaker 1: lineup and they went ten and four right before they
Speaker 1: brought in Russell Westbrook and that upended things. Terrence Man
Speaker 1: was no longer starting. We know it's been Herkie's Jerkie
Speaker 1: with him in and out of the lineup, playing different positions.
Speaker 1: He has been an unbelievable person and player by the
Speaker 1: way he's handled so many different shuffling lineups and rotations
Speaker 1: and positions he's been asked to play over the years,
Speaker 1: and he has done so like a good soldier. And
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's been rewarded today because of things like that.
Speaker 1: But with the Clippers since that time end of the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three season, when they start off ten and
Speaker 1: four with Team Man in the starting lineup, they have
Speaker 1: been over thirty games over five hundred with him in
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. When you take it from that point
Speaker 1: through all of this season, Terrence Man is a winning player.
Speaker 1: He does the little things that help you win. Like
Speaker 1: I don't know, he gave him a chance to take
Speaker 1: out the Dallas Mavericks that went to the NBA Finals
Speaker 1: this past season without Kawhi Leonard for the most part,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't right when he played in that series.
Speaker 1: He helped give them a chance even with Paul George's
Speaker 1: only averaging nineteen points per game because he was getting
Speaker 1: locked up by Derek Joniors Jones Junior in that first
Speaker 1: round series. Terrence Man gave them a chance because why
Speaker 1: he held Luka Doncic to forty percent shooting in that
Speaker 1: first round series. His defense was stifling. It was clamp city.
Speaker 1: He was fantastic. If you don't understand that type of
Speaker 1: value when you're worried about him, well, only was getting
Speaker 1: eight points per game in his career. It's like, that's
Speaker 1: not what Terrence Man is necessarily about does he need
Speaker 1: to take ketch and shoot threes? Can he not shy
Speaker 1: away from those? Yeah, he does. He needs to make
Speaker 1: sure to put him up from the outside, and that
Speaker 1: was emphasis of the press conference on Tuesday. Of course,
Speaker 1: so is Derek Joes Junior. So do a few other
Speaker 1: guys on this team win in this offense, especially right now.
Speaker 1: James Harden finds you you need to put them up
Speaker 1: from the outside because it helps with spacing. If you
Speaker 1: are a threat from three, that's gonna help with spacing
Speaker 1: everywhere and stretching the floor and creating space. For the
Speaker 1: two best ISO scores in the league last season Kawhi
Speaker 1: by a wide margin, and then second was James Harden.
Speaker 1: The role players, the contributors, they have to take and
Speaker 1: make those shots and make the opposition have to close
Speaker 1: out on them. Conmissed Mio says he doesn't warrant a
Speaker 1: bag on the open market. That's why he stayed. No
Speaker 1: idea what his thinking was with his agent. Just stop man,
Speaker 1: take the L. Terrence Man haters take the L today,
Speaker 1: stay in shambles. If you can't understand the value of
Speaker 1: Terrence Man, you probably have a hard time with modern
Speaker 1: basketball in general and understanding what wins you games. Terrence
Speaker 1: Man is a winning player and has a ton of intangibles.
Speaker 1: Thirty games over five hundred the last year and a
Speaker 1: half with Terrence Man in the starting lineup, says it all.
Speaker 1: That's how good he has been. I think it's actually
Speaker 1: closer to forty. Haven't checked the number in a while,
Speaker 1: but yeah, Oscar, he says, I don't get what the
Speaker 1: Clippers are doing paying a guy sixteen million per year
Speaker 1: over three years that just entering his prime that plays
Speaker 1: multiple positions, is a three and D guy great in transition.
Speaker 1: Let me let me point out something else. Terrence Man haters.
Speaker 1: They just can't stop themselves and they can't help themselves.
Speaker 1: Let me point out something else with Terrence Man. You
Speaker 1: may not be aware of that. I'm sure was used
Speaker 1: in contract negotiations, as it should be, because he is
Speaker 1: elite in an area that people don't realize. Of guards
Speaker 1: in this league this past season who took at least
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty shot attempts in the restricted area,
Speaker 1: only Luka Doncic was better than Terrence Man. There, Lucas
Speaker 1: shot seventy five point nine percent in the restricted area.
Speaker 1: Terrence Man was second at seventy five point seven percent.
Speaker 1: Right behind him was only second to Luka Doncic in
Speaker 1: guards when it came to fueld goal percentage in the
Speaker 1: restricted area. Not a fluke. How do I know this
Speaker 1: because the year before, Terrence Man was third in the league,
Speaker 1: only behind the Aaron Fox and Steph Curry, ahead of
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic when it came the fueld goal percentage in
Speaker 1: the restricted area. He finishes. He's great in transition, he's
Speaker 1: great at getting downhill, and some people are not great
Speaker 1: at understanding how good he is for this team. Comess Meal,
Speaker 1: this is the last time I'm putting you up. Probably
Speaker 1: gonna ignore you after this. Hit the ignore button. I've
Speaker 1: explained through stats like I just did advance once. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going over your head. I hope not.
Speaker 1: I've explained with the winning record that is absurd with
Speaker 1: Terrence Man in the starting lineup. Here's another one for you.
Speaker 1: He shot forty four percent the last fifty games from
Speaker 1: three last season after getting off to a woeful start
Speaker 1: from three. Terrence Man the first half of the year
Speaker 1: where he couldn't figure it out from beyond the Arc
Speaker 1: twenty five games in he was shooting twenty one point
Speaker 1: four percent from three. The last fifty games in the
Speaker 1: regular season, he shot forty four percent from three. He
Speaker 1: shot forty five percent in the playoffs against Dallas from three,
Speaker 1: while holding Luka Doncic to twenty percent from three and
Speaker 1: forty percent from the floor. Are you just you just
Speaker 1: can't help some people like they just are too stubborn
Speaker 1: to listen and it's sad, Melvin Powell says the Clippers.
Speaker 1: The Clippers are going to renegotiate Chris dun contract in
Speaker 1: for a similar deal to Terrence Man. Melvin Powell is
Speaker 1: a Chris Dunn disciple. I'm a big Chris dunfan too.
Speaker 1: He's obsessed. He is someone that loves to talk about
Speaker 1: him and is very optimistic. And I understand that part
Speaker 1: of it, uh because I am too. And we'll see.
Speaker 1: He may be in a battle with Terrence Man, or
Speaker 1: that's starting two spot with Norman Powell. Hey, maybe KPJ
Speaker 1: is in the mix. I don't know. The glowing things
Speaker 1: that coach lu said about Kevin Porter Junior on Tuesday
Speaker 1: made me feel different about the situation. I mean, Assan
Speaker 1: says Terrence plays hard and is amazing on d Well.
Speaker 1: He wasn't that series. I thought overall he was solid
Speaker 1: during the regular season, but he could be better. He's
Speaker 1: capable of more. Again, it's not easy when you're playing
Speaker 1: all these different positions all the time. You're filling in
Speaker 1: at the two, the three, the four. He's guarded centers before.
Speaker 1: It is a guy who is so versatile and is
Speaker 1: so important to this team, and I'm hoping he stays
Speaker 1: for a long time. And just because it's a very
Speaker 1: tradable contract, and just because apparently he's eligible to be
Speaker 1: traded immediately that doesn't happen. I'm guessing that is not
Speaker 1: why they made this deal, because that's such good value
Speaker 1: for a player like Terrence Man. Huge. This is big.
Speaker 1: This is big for the Clippers. It's big for Terrence Man.
Speaker 1: It's big for him having the inside track. As I
Speaker 1: said yesterday, for that starting two guard position. I'm trying
Speaker 1: my best, j am I thirteen twenty four. I've tried
Speaker 1: my best. Some people just they can't be helped like
Speaker 1: this guy. I hope you're willfully wrong for the sake
Speaker 1: of the team. I'm guessing you're wrong a lot because
Speaker 1: you probably never even thought they'd signed Terrence Man because
Speaker 1: you're probably been a hater for this long. You can't
Speaker 1: help some people, I'm telling you. Jay says no postgame
Speaker 1: talks after preseason games, right, have you seen your seat
Speaker 1: yet into it? Or do I need to call Steve Lol?
Speaker 1: Whoever can't see the importance of Man is not a
Speaker 1: Clipper fan. It's funny to me my guy Zach Low,
Speaker 1: who got let go by ESPN yesterday, and I had
Speaker 1: a big rant about that with Carlo Jimenez on the
Speaker 1: live we did yesterday. He has been a huge Terrence
Speaker 1: Man guy for a long time. Those in the note
Speaker 1: those who know ball and aren't just hoopers talking about
Speaker 1: inefficient players that have a big bag but they don't
Speaker 1: exactly score at a high rate. See the worth with
Speaker 1: Terrence Man and how important he is being a glue
Speaker 1: guy with this Clippers team, and how important it is
Speaker 1: to have wings and three and D players in today's
Speaker 1: league with all the three point shooting. Because as much
Speaker 1: as you say, well, Adam, you just point out that
Speaker 1: for twenty five games she only shot twenty one percent
Speaker 1: to start off last season from three. Yes, he turned
Speaker 1: it around and shot forty four percent after the calendar
Speaker 1: turned over in twenty twenty four. Here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: can look back in his entire career, and he has
Speaker 1: been with the Clippers and was drafted forty eighth in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, so he's been with them through the entire
Speaker 1: two to three era and he is the longest tenured Clipper. Guys,
Speaker 1: make that a beat to Zubas. But Terrence Man, he
Speaker 1: didn't start off Los Angeles laker. That is no fault
Speaker 1: of Zuboses. I'm just saying he is technically homegrown. It
Speaker 1: feels like that with the beats of Zubos though sometimes
Speaker 1: because he's at least been in La his entire career,
Speaker 1: and God blessed Magic Johnson for handing him over for
Speaker 1: Mike Muscala. Oh it was a beautiful day. I still
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. I'm Washington. The was it called the
Speaker 1: chaion at the bottom of the screen ESPN, the little
Speaker 1: stat ticker scrolling by, and I saw the trade go
Speaker 1: through at the very end of the trade deadline, and
Speaker 1: I said, there's no way that's that's accurate. There's no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way there's got a beat to Zubas for
Speaker 1: Mike Muscala. That couldn't have happened. There's no way. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god, oh my god, it did happen.
Speaker 1: It did. My point about Terrence Man three point shooting,
Speaker 1: though he's taken seven hundred and twenty one threes in
Speaker 1: his career, he is shot for his career thirty seven percent.
Speaker 1: So for those who are saying, well, you can't trust
Speaker 1: the volume, I'm trusting almost a thousand shots. He's an
Speaker 1: above average three point shooter that has had a season
Speaker 1: where he shot forty two percent from three. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm looking at. It's just it's difficult with these team
Speaker 1: Man haters like this guy. I was initially a team
Speaker 1: Man fan. Now I'm just using him as someone to
Speaker 1: play off of. Here, I guess I'm having fun with it.
Speaker 1: Back to the therapist talk here, I'm gonna need one
Speaker 1: after this. Melvin Powell admits to being a Doctor Schap
Speaker 1: like disciple for Chris Dunn. Here's why. Facts I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan. Bro reminds me of old school defensive point
Speaker 1: guards of the eighties and nineties. I could see that
Speaker 1: I could see him as a Greg Anthony type, a
Speaker 1: bulldog type, a great point of attack defender. That's who
Speaker 1: Chris Dunn is. He's better in that respect than even
Speaker 1: Terrence Man is. And Terrence Man is very good. But
Speaker 1: the way Chris Dunn navigates screens elite. Derek Jones Junior
Speaker 1: also elite in that category. So now you have when
Speaker 1: you look at guys that can guard and shoot the
Speaker 1: three ball that are role players and contributors. Terrence Man
Speaker 1: is locked Terrence Man is locked up, Derek Jones Junior
Speaker 1: is locked up. Chris Dun's on the team now, Nicholas
Speaker 1: Patoom is back on the team. There's four guys. I'll
Speaker 1: make it five a mere coffee. There's five guys that
Speaker 1: and I know Derek Jones Jr. He needs to get
Speaker 1: his three ball shooting up and hopefully what happened in
Speaker 1: the playoffs translates to the regular season now, because he
Speaker 1: only shot thirty four percent in the regular season for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks before shooting thirty seven percent during the
Speaker 1: playoffs for them from three. I need to be I
Speaker 1: need Derek Jones Junior to be closer to forty percent
Speaker 1: from three than thirty percent from three this season. But
Speaker 1: that's five guys that can guard multiple positions, that will
Speaker 1: hound you defensively hound you and also provides some offense.
Speaker 1: And Derek Jones Jr. Is more than just obviously if
Speaker 1: he can hit threes because of his bounce and athleticism
Speaker 1: and the way he can get up. And the Clippers
Speaker 1: haven't had a guy like this since man. I don't
Speaker 1: know that can get up like this, obviously Blake, but
Speaker 1: just a dunker like this since Tres. It's not like
Speaker 1: Kawhi and Paul George didn't have crazy dunks, didn't have posters.
Speaker 1: And Kawhi is a leagued left legged leaper in the league.
Speaker 1: Kawhi jumps off his left leg. His surgeries have happened
Speaker 1: on his right leg, so he could still get up.
Speaker 1: That's not an issue. But someone who is a rim
Speaker 1: runner and a lobcatcher to this degree, Man, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun to watch with Derek Joe Junior. Oh, look
Speaker 1: at the hater. I wish I knew how to pronounce
Speaker 1: his name. I was saying, Mayo, meo.
Speaker 2: A mean.
Speaker 1: Kawhi playing fifty to fifty five games max today, I
Speaker 1: would probably sign up for fifty five games. I would
Speaker 1: I probably would stephen A was right, Kawhi needs to retire.
Speaker 1: He's stealing money, Louise, Louise. The season hasn't even hasn't
Speaker 1: even started yet, and I am hopeful that what the
Speaker 1: Clippers are doing right now, with what came out on
Speaker 1: Tuesday regarding his knee and the swelling being almost gone,
Speaker 1: I am hopeful that them saying he's not going to
Speaker 1: participate in drills, he's gonna be strengthening the knee during
Speaker 1: training camp is just them being overly cautious, airing on
Speaker 1: the side of caution, proceeding with an abundance of caution
Speaker 1: because of what has happened and occurred the last four years.
Speaker 1: And it's not that he couldn't do it, it's why
Speaker 1: risk it in training camp? My god? Do you think
Speaker 1: a player at thirty three of Kawhi's skill level really
Speaker 1: needs to participate in training camp like he's going to
Speaker 1: learn something? I just oh, we got a Dumer. Look
Speaker 1: at the Dumer Luis Sneeze Sneeze. Kawhi out for the season.
Speaker 1: Just how about stay out of my chat the rest
Speaker 1: of the season, My guy. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: hating right now, and I don't like it. Amen says,
Speaker 1: speaking of dunks, I remember that dunk Terrence had on
Speaker 1: ad Oh, he got Anthony Davis this past season. Terrence
Speaker 1: Man good in the dunker spot. What I'm hoping is
Speaker 1: this flew under the radar a little bit this last season,
Speaker 1: and it's only on twenty two attempts, so I don't
Speaker 1: know what to make of it. I'm just hoping he's
Speaker 1: turning twenty eight, he's entering his prime. Terrence Man gets
Speaker 1: paid today on fadeaway's. Last year, it was just twenty
Speaker 1: two of them on fataways. He shot fifty five percent
Speaker 1: that little turnaround fade away. He has shown in the
Speaker 1: mid range. There's been an improvement there. It's not a
Speaker 1: big enough sample side to put a ton into, but
Speaker 1: it looked really good last season. So twenty two attempts
Speaker 1: last season on those fadaways fifty five percent. If he
Speaker 1: could shoot anywhere close to forty seven percent on fadaways
Speaker 1: like that there, that's another way he can attack and
Speaker 1: help offensively, because yes, he does need to score more
Speaker 1: because there isn't a Paul George on this team, but
Speaker 1: you just want Terrence Man to grow and not necessarily
Speaker 1: even have to expand his game so much. Just what
Speaker 1: you do, do it a little bit better. That's progress,
Speaker 1: that's development. That's what you want to see from your players.
Speaker 1: Just continue to strengthen strengths. And he's really good at
Speaker 1: a lot that helps you win ball games. Now some
Speaker 1: people can't see that because they're haters and trolls and
Speaker 1: they just you know, they don't have a high basketball IQ.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to tell you, no, Kawhi slander
Speaker 1: is acceptable. I don't give an f says jm I
Speaker 1: thirteen twenty four. Here's that Mexican. He says this about Kawhi.
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, Kawhi is out for the first few games.
Speaker 1: What's your starting lineup? Ooh, I like this question. I
Speaker 1: like this. I'm interested in this my starting lineup. We'll first,
Speaker 1: I'll give you my starting lineup with Kawhi. I want
Speaker 1: it to be this. I'm hoping for this and after today,
Speaker 1: it only strengthens my resolve or my confidence in this happening.
Speaker 1: James Harden, Terrence Man, Derek Jones, Junior Kawhi, Leonard to
Speaker 1: beatz Zubats. That's the deal starting lineup to me. Now,
Speaker 1: could I see Norman Powell because he offers much more
Speaker 1: scoring as the two guard. Yeah, but then what happens
Speaker 1: to your defense? Probably getting shredded at the point of attack.
Speaker 1: Unless Norman Powell reverts back to how he played defense
Speaker 1: with Toronto when they won a championship, he was a
Speaker 1: much better defender than I don't know what bad habits
Speaker 1: he picked up at his stop in Portland, playing next
Speaker 1: to Dame and CJ. McCollum, but it feels like that
Speaker 1: has turned him into an average to minus defender, a
Speaker 1: blow average to minus defender. That's who he's kind of been.
Speaker 1: So this question I will answer. I'm going to get
Speaker 1: to it. Who's your starting five? If no Kawhi, it's
Speaker 1: probably Niko Batoum playing the four, unless you slide guys
Speaker 1: up like this, Derek Jones Junior plays the four, Terrence
Speaker 1: Man plays the three. Norman Powell then plays the two
Speaker 1: for more scoring. If Kawhi is not there in the
Speaker 1: starting lineup next to James Harden, smaller team rebounding it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a priority as it is already.
Speaker 1: But if you don't have Kawhi at the four and
Speaker 1: you're sliding up Derek Jones Junior there, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to get by collectively with their defense and rebounding, but
Speaker 1: it's an option to get a little bit more scoring
Speaker 1: juice in there. I think that's my guess. Now, let's
Speaker 1: say Kevin Porter Junior goes nuts in the preseason in
Speaker 1: training camp, he looks great, and that really changes the
Speaker 1: equation then in a way that I didn't see coming
Speaker 1: based upon what coach Lou said just the other day saying,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna have basically on paraphrasing success this season,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be a big part of it.
Speaker 1: Kpj hmm. If he's not suspended by the NBA and
Speaker 1: we don't know what's gonna happen because of his off
Speaker 1: the court transgressions, and he plays well in preseason and
Speaker 1: he looks good in training camp, and by the way,
Speaker 1: if he was suspended early enough, he wouldn't be available
Speaker 1: in the preseason, even Lot Murray pointed that out the
Speaker 1: other day here on Clippers Talk Live. Then maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know, Kevin Porter Junior could start or get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to if Kawhi's out, if other guys are out,
Speaker 1: I could see it happening. Evil Bot says this no
Speaker 1: matter what happens, the Clippers will get the succeed this season.
Speaker 1: Lets effing go, clips from your lips to the back
Speaker 1: God's ears. If they could get the sixth seed and
Speaker 1: stay out of the plan, all right, we're in business.
Speaker 1: If they can do that while keeping Kawhi healthy for
Speaker 1: that first round series, they're in business. Nobody would want
Speaker 1: to see that team. Whoever finishes third in the West
Speaker 1: would not want to see a healthy Clipper team in
Speaker 1: the first round. Jay says, Terrence Man is going to
Speaker 1: be my next jersey. That's that? What color you going with?
Speaker 1: You're gonna wait for the red? You get a blue,
Speaker 1: a white, a lighter shit of blue with their city
Speaker 1: edition jerseys with the clips on the front. What are
Speaker 1: you going with? Oh? Has Saul turned into a Paul chemist?
Speaker 1: Mio says, does Bone see minutes with the second unit?
Speaker 1: Or does Doune take those minutes? He says, he's done
Speaker 1: with the negativity. He's gonna ask some real ess now,
Speaker 1: h Does Bones see minutes with the second unit? Or
Speaker 1: does Done take those minutes? Done takes those minutes, dude,
Speaker 1: Done takes those minutes, My guy, he's taking them. They
Speaker 1: didn't bring in Done and didn't bench Bones so many
Speaker 1: times last season for Bones to all of a sudden
Speaker 1: get the starting role. See this is why I kind
Speaker 1: of think unfortunately because of this question. It leads me
Speaker 1: to believe that Chemist Meal just doesn't know ball Chemist.
Speaker 1: How on earth would Bones get an opportunity before Chris done?
Speaker 1: When you look at the difference in defense between them
Speaker 1: and the other guys that are gonna be playing next
Speaker 1: to in the second unit. You can't play Bones next
Speaker 1: to KPJ and Norman Powell. Where's the defense? Chris Dunn?
Speaker 1: Is that guy? Do you watch ball Man? And all
Speaker 1: that hate and earlier makes a lot more sense now
Speaker 1: now you are kind of out out to lunch, William
Speaker 1: Blast says Adam, I need your hats, the exact one.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give it away like that. I
Speaker 1: want Come on, man, I like this hat. Check out
Speaker 1: the Flagship store. You can get it there. Oh thank goodness,
Speaker 1: he's leaving the chat, William Blast, I had a blast
Speaker 1: out of here. He's not leaving with my hat. He
Speaker 1: ain't taking this what happens to Bones? Good question, good
Speaker 1: follow up? Not a casual here like miost Gicon wants
Speaker 1: to know what's going to happen. And let me say this,
Speaker 1: I've had questions this offseason regarding PG Tucker and Bones
Speaker 1: the entire time and whether or not they would be
Speaker 1: at training camp if they are speak the Clippers could
Speaker 1: not find a partner to trade with because obviously they
Speaker 1: were on the outs. Now I know PJ. Tucker started
Speaker 1: the last game in the playoffs. That still perplexes me,
Speaker 1: and kind of, I don't know, bullied his way to
Speaker 1: getting minutes somehow. Last season he got three different opportunities
Speaker 1: after coach Lou was like, yeah, he's seventy five, you
Speaker 1: know he's he's gotten paid. Uh, he was joking about
Speaker 1: his age, but it sure seemed like they gave him
Speaker 1: a real shot. He didn't look good the minutes. Next
Speaker 1: two of eats, the Zobots was a different type of
Speaker 1: death lineup, a self inflicted death. He uh, really bad,
Speaker 1: disorganized lineup that got killed minutes wise and made no sense,
Speaker 1: but they tried it just to give PJ Tucker minutes.
Speaker 1: Then he complained. Then he got sent home along with
Speaker 1: Bones before the All Star break because they weren't traded
Speaker 1: and they were just gruntled and upset, and the Clipper
Speaker 1: sent him home rightfully, So they're not gonna be team players. Sorry,
Speaker 1: we couldn't try and find trade partners for you. Sorry. PJ. Tucker,
Speaker 1: who complained to various media outlets about saying that he
Speaker 1: never wanted to come to be a Clipper. He didn't
Speaker 1: sign up for this, I'm paraphrasing. So the guy they
Speaker 1: had to take on your contract, you think they wanted to.
Speaker 1: I like PJ. Tucker. I have defended him at times.
Speaker 1: I have said he can work in certain situations. A
Speaker 1: couple of minutes here against Nikola jokicch a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes here against Zion Williamson, and we saw it a
Speaker 1: little bit. But my god, he's thirty nine now. He
Speaker 1: opted in to his player option for eleven million dollars,
Speaker 1: so he could have been a free agent if he
Speaker 1: wanted to, He could have gone anywhere. I just don't
Speaker 1: want to hear the complaining this season about minutes or
Speaker 1: anything like that. If he's still on the roster because
Speaker 1: he's getting his money, good for him. If he can
Speaker 1: find a role, if he can beat out somebody in
Speaker 1: training camp, good for him. That'd be great. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to see any bad vibes at training camp.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see guys who are already frustrated
Speaker 1: with their position. So if they're both there, that likely
Speaker 1: means the Clippers weren't able to get a deal done.
Speaker 1: There will be a competition. There will be an open competition. Hey,
Speaker 1: if they shine, I think coach lou Is gonna find
Speaker 1: a spot for him. I just think it's very unlikely
Speaker 1: for PJ because of his age, because of how he
Speaker 1: looked last season, for Bones, because of his attitude at times,
Speaker 1: and because now they brought in Chris Dunn. Now they
Speaker 1: have KPJ. Russ may be gone, but there's two other
Speaker 1: guys he has to fight for playing time with, and
Speaker 1: he is an offensive liability. He can work with certain lineups.
Speaker 1: And you know, I love Bones Highland. I am the
Speaker 1: holder of the skeleton key. But I just don't see
Speaker 1: a path to him playing on this team.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be difficult. I hope I'm wrong, man, I
Speaker 1: really hope I'm wrong, because I would love for Bones Highland,
Speaker 1: who I think can thrive as a backup point guard
Speaker 1: in this league. I really do. I think he is
Speaker 1: good enough because of his three point threat, because of
Speaker 1: the pass where he is and last season he was
Speaker 1: able to get to the basket much better. He improved
Speaker 1: himself in that area and in training camp last season.
Speaker 1: And whai who was the guy that everybody praised is
Speaker 1: making the biggest leap? It was Bones Highland. He impressed
Speaker 1: everyone and he had that job for a second, but
Speaker 1: then they brought in James Harden that moving back Russell
Speaker 1: Westbrook coming off the bench. You know my feelings about Russ.
Speaker 1: I love him, but I think the Clippers probably are
Speaker 1: better served last season if they had Bones as the
Speaker 1: backup point guard and he had that time to show
Speaker 1: what he could do. I think that would have been
Speaker 1: huge for them. But I understand it. Russell z Vett
Speaker 1: now he's with the Denver Nuggets. Lonzo Lopez says, can
Speaker 1: Lawrence Frank turn Bones and PJ Tucker into something good
Speaker 1: for the Clips? Like someone from the Blazers maybe, like
Speaker 1: who who are you talking about? Who's that guy? Are
Speaker 1: you talking about? A certain backup center on the Portland
Speaker 1: Trail Blazers. I could see that if that's where you're leaning,
Speaker 1: I could see them swapping guys. And granted Robert Williams
Speaker 1: has been injury prone, but if they could get him
Speaker 1: for PJ Tucker. I do it in a heartbeat. I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly why Portland would. You're saying they throw
Speaker 1: in bones too, and that's what entices them. Maybe, But
Speaker 1: was scoot there, I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that would be of interest to the Portland trail Blazers.
Speaker 1: William Blast says he should have been cut when he
Speaker 1: caused that distraction in February. Well, he still gotta eat
Speaker 1: the contract and he did start. He must win game six.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. Evil Bod says, I like PJ,
Speaker 1: but not at his price. Evobod is using a picture
Speaker 1: of me. He's looking to get banned. I've definitely not
Speaker 1: gotta go to him anymore. William Blast said, just eat
Speaker 1: the contracts what I just said. He already mentioned that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: cut him. You could just send him home. You could,
Speaker 1: but it'd be nice to get something. I don't know,
Speaker 1: And it would be nice if at thirty nine years
Speaker 1: of age, PJ. Tucker realized where he was in his
Speaker 1: career and was just a good vet and a good
Speaker 1: soldier and was helping young guys. Because I think he
Speaker 1: did some of that last season. But also he might
Speaker 1: have been a bad influence on Bones Highland because they
Speaker 1: were both sent home for insubordination around the All Star break. PJ.
Speaker 1: Tucker in his prime I would love on this team.
Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite players. I love guys
Speaker 1: like that. He played like I used to and inter murals,
Speaker 1: hard nosed defense, could guard multiple positions. Yeah, in a
Speaker 1: few minutes here and there there, against the right matchup,
Speaker 1: he can still do some of it. But really, is
Speaker 1: he gonna be playing over I'd rather see Kay Jones
Speaker 1: getting opportunity because he's young and we don't know his
Speaker 1: ceiling Mobamba's the backup center. I just yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It is a tough one. We'll see what happens during
Speaker 1: training camp. Bro, what does PJ even bring anymore toughness?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. He was turning down three pointers.
Speaker 1: He couldn't hit any more from the corner. That was
Speaker 1: his bread and butter. But I did see some toughness
Speaker 1: against Jokic a little bit. We're talking, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes literally just to change of pace guy
Speaker 1: to guard some of the bigger bodies in the NBA.
Speaker 1: He's got shoes. JJ the boy points that out lots
Speaker 1: of them. This has come from Jay and Southgate, so
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a fan. Took my son and we
Speaker 1: couldn't get in because the facial identification wasn't working. My
Speaker 1: son was so mad at me. Week before the Usher
Speaker 1: concert drama got into it. You couldn't get into the
Speaker 1: flagship store because of that. Because I worked for me,
Speaker 1: it worked perfectly. Remember my name. I was able to
Speaker 1: walk out with some gear charge me right then. It
Speaker 1: was easy, uh, Aman says regarding to PJ Tucker, He's
Speaker 1: not respected out there offensively. No, so you're playing four
Speaker 1: and five on OFFENSI with PJ Tucker, and he was
Speaker 1: one of the main reasons they blew a twenty one
Speaker 1: point lead to the Lakers. That was true. Y'all better
Speaker 1: off with Marcus Morris over PJ, says Russ the builder
Speaker 1: who has a picture of Russell Westbrook in a Thunder
Speaker 1: uniform putting up a brick. No, not a basketball, he
Speaker 1: is shooting a brick. Uh who else do we got here? Adam?
Speaker 1: Should the Clippers consider trading Norman Powell? I say no
Speaker 1: until they know about KPg and what he's capable of.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Norman Palell fan. He's a bucket. He
Speaker 1: has had a forty point game in a playoff game
Speaker 1: for the Clips in Game three against Phoenix and gave
Speaker 1: them a chance to win without Paul George and Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 1: Problem is he doesn't offer a lot more outside of
Speaker 1: his scoring. Now. I don't want to make the mistake
Speaker 1: of giving him the Chris Carter treatment. He only scores touchdowns.
Speaker 1: That's all you can do. All you can do is
Speaker 1: score and act like that's a bad thing or act
Speaker 1: like that's not Probably the most important skill set you
Speaker 1: can have, it is. But he's not a great passer.
Speaker 1: His defense hasn't been great, even though I think his
Speaker 1: potential is much higher. And there's just not a lot
Speaker 1: else there. If he's not being a bucket out there,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have a shooting stroke now he shot
Speaker 1: forty four percent from three last season, guys he helped
Speaker 1: form the Powell Rangers the Clippers' best lineup. He forged it.
Speaker 1: But if he's the sixth man again, and it looks
Speaker 1: like Kevin Porter's junior is available and not suspended and
Speaker 1: is also showing off scoring potential, like when he was
Speaker 1: getting nineteen per game for the Houston Rockets, and also
Speaker 1: as being a playmaker out there, and he has really
Speaker 1: high potential because he has a six to nine wingspan
Speaker 1: to guard guys on the perimeter. In fact, I posted
Speaker 1: a video the other day I follow out of May
Speaker 1: if you want to check it out on x on
Speaker 1: Twitter of some of his defensive plays from the twenty
Speaker 1: one to twenty two season with the Houston Rockets where
Speaker 1: he's picking pockets left and right. And I'm not saying,
Speaker 1: you know, those are highlights, they're not showing the low lines.
Speaker 1: But he does have a high defensive potential. I guess
Speaker 1: on the perimeter he does. I want to see it
Speaker 1: as a clipper like when he's focused there. I was
Speaker 1: listening to Dime Dropper earlier today. He had a guy
Speaker 1: on from Lockdown Houston Rockets talking about his potential on
Speaker 1: the defensive end and if you can get him motivated
Speaker 1: on defense, he can lock guys up. He pointed out
Speaker 1: a game where he was very good against Lebron James
Speaker 1: defensively Kevin Porter Junior. So his ceiling is higher than norms,
Speaker 1: I believe, But there's so much to be determined in
Speaker 1: training camp, and I don't think at this point you
Speaker 1: can really consider getting rid of Norman Powell when you're
Speaker 1: talking about needing to fill twenty four points that you're
Speaker 1: missing per game with Paul George gone, Norm Powle's a
Speaker 1: big part of that. Guys, I'm moving on from the
Speaker 1: PJ Tucker Norm Powell conversation, and I'm sorry to lose
Speaker 1: my voice because I've been screaming too much. Evil Bot says,
Speaker 1: why am I showing this guy used a picture of me?
Speaker 1: That's something I would have done back in the day.
Speaker 1: Trolling wise, I think for the front office wants to
Speaker 1: see if KPg and Kai Jones experiment works to trade
Speaker 1: Bones and PJ. If not, there is safe blanket. I
Speaker 1: don't think it has anything to do with that, be honest.
Speaker 1: I think if they could get rid of Bones and PJ,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Frank has talked about it. They've looked for deals.
Speaker 1: There's one that makes sense, they'd be gone by now,
Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. He brings an awesome shoe collection, Yes
Speaker 1: he does. PJ. Tucker definitely has that going for him.
Speaker 1: If you're a sneakerhead like Brian Seaman, you appreciate the
Speaker 1: shoe collection. William Blast will point out he's been done
Speaker 1: for two seasons. He's just physical. Well, okay, he has
Speaker 1: shown now for the Clippers, who probably doesn't make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense because if he's the Zubats might be
Speaker 1: the best defender against this particular player. But PJ. Tucker
Speaker 1: against Nikola Jokich for the seventy six Ers his last season,
Speaker 1: he has some really good possessions against Jokich, like there
Speaker 1: is something there. But he's so bad on the offensive end.
Speaker 1: If he's not gonna take threes anymore, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: confidence in his shot. He hurts you so much there.
Speaker 1: It's just it doesn't make sense. Yeah, it was game three.
Speaker 1: Norman Powell had forty two against Phoenix in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: William Blast says, you need as many scores as you
Speaker 1: can get keep Norm coming off the bench for the
Speaker 1: remainder of his prime. Norm's under contract for two more years.
Speaker 1: There's no team option, no player option. But I'm just
Speaker 1: paying attention to see if Kevin Porter Junior ascends and
Speaker 1: rises up here and doesn't get suspended. There is a
Speaker 1: lot of IF's going on, but I think he could
Speaker 1: at some point be a six man type for the Clippers.
Speaker 1: He has a two year contract. They believe in him.
Speaker 1: Coach lou spoke very highly of his talent, mentioned how
Speaker 1: you don't make twenty million dollars per year if you
Speaker 1: aren't talented. That's what he was getting before he blew
Speaker 1: it with his off the court mistakes and incidences that
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure there's gonna be questions the media
Speaker 1: day about Kevin Porter Junior. It's a controversials, gonna be
Speaker 1: scrutinized type of decision because of the domestic violence stand it. So,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to shy away from discussing that stuff.
Speaker 1: Can't take it that much further than that. But I
Speaker 1: understand where people are coming from. Some fans, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't like it. You want everybody, You want to
Speaker 1: be able to root for everybody on your team, and
Speaker 1: that makes it difficult. You can be conflicted. Other people
Speaker 1: just see the basketball player and they just want to
Speaker 1: know if a guy has a high ability there. I don't,
Speaker 1: you know, look down upon either side of this type
Speaker 1: of argument. I think it's just personal decision and how
Speaker 1: you want to fan. Jaj the Boy says, how many
Speaker 1: minutes do you think Jordan Miller is going to play
Speaker 1: in these preseason games. Heavy minutes. Heavy minutes for Jordan Miller,
Speaker 1: I'll give them. Can I say heavy, I guess I
Speaker 1: mean relative to what he could get in the regular season.
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance he plays around twenty
Speaker 1: minutes in a few of these preseason games. I believe
Speaker 1: they have five. I should know that since we're doing
Speaker 1: all of them on the radio starting October fifth and Honolulu,
Speaker 1: Hawaii Clippers and Golden State Warriors. I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1: Myself and Carlo Amenez will be on the radio side
Speaker 1: for you. I think pre game starts at three Clippers countdown.
Speaker 1: Jordan Miller, Guys, I want to see when he's gonna
Speaker 1: bump his head on the ceiling. You keep putting hurdles
Speaker 1: in front of this guy, Jordan Miller, and he keeps
Speaker 1: leaping over him. Now, the biggest hurdle is just playing
Speaker 1: and carving out a role in the NBA. But so
Speaker 1: far in the G League, where last season he was
Speaker 1: getting twenty two per game, was the eighth leading scorer
Speaker 1: in the G League, was dominating. That's too easy for him.
Speaker 1: Summer League, too easy for him. Should have been the
Speaker 1: Summer League MVP Let's see what he can do in
Speaker 1: the NBA. Let's see what he can do at this level,
Speaker 1: because there are levels to this. I just want him
Speaker 1: to be challenged because they're gonna bring out the best
Speaker 1: in him, and it's the only way he's gonna learn.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what he's capable at the NBA level.
Speaker 1: Was his hot shooting during Summer League from three an aberration?
Speaker 1: Was it an outlier? Or can he turn into a
Speaker 1: Nicholas Batomb type, a versatile defender that has a quick
Speaker 1: release on catching shoot threes. That's what I'm wondering. Who
Speaker 1: do you think is getting the last two? Way I'm
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who has the first two? Is
Speaker 1: it Jordan Miller and Trenton Flowers? If somebody wants to
Speaker 1: hit me up there. As I read this text I
Speaker 1: got from Charles Mockler regarding Terrence Man, as we've kind
Speaker 1: of veered out into all these different areas, and I'll
Speaker 1: answer this question. We'll get to all your questions here.
Speaker 1: This Friday we got has to do just hanging out.
Speaker 1: It's good to be with you guys. But this all
Speaker 1: centered around Terrence Man getting paid. It was broke by
Speaker 1: the athletic and Shamsharania. He got a three year, forty
Speaker 1: seven million dollar contract extension with the Clippers. That's about
Speaker 1: sixteen million, or just under per year. Here's Justin Rousseau
Speaker 1: on this. He said, Man is slated Russo to occupy
Speaker 1: ten percent of the Clippers projected salary cap in the
Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty sixth season, while Zubos clocks in
Speaker 1: at eleven point seven percent of their salary cap. Adding
Speaker 1: Derrek Jones Junior's flat ten million dollars salary for that season,
Speaker 1: which comes in in a meager six point five percent
Speaker 1: of the cap, and you have three projected starters for
Speaker 1: the Clippers taking up a grand total of only twenty
Speaker 1: eight point two percent of the available salary cap. Three
Speaker 1: projected starters factoring Chris Dunn's five point four million for
Speaker 1: that season as well, and key rotation players see their
Speaker 1: cap percentage jumped to thirty one point seven percent, a
Speaker 1: figure most teams would be willing to live with. Guys,
Speaker 1: this is a team friendly deal for the casuals out there.
Speaker 1: Who was that one guy that was talking a little
Speaker 1: bit earlier, got too much windows jaws? Uh my guy
Speaker 1: right here for the casuals out there. I think this
Speaker 1: is somehow an overpay man learn the cap situation. It's
Speaker 1: not at all. Don't look at so much the number
Speaker 1: what someone's getting paid. Look at the percentage of the
Speaker 1: salary cap they are taking up. That's what's important. And
Speaker 1: Terrence Man is only going to be accounting for ten
Speaker 1: percent of the Clippers projected salary cap. Not this season,
Speaker 1: but next season. That's big. I've eats a zoobots at
Speaker 1: about twelve percent. Ooh, we got to pay in customer?
Speaker 1: Here is this somebody? Yeah, I got into the super
Speaker 1: chat gave me ten bucks. I don't deserve that. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Jolie Rowe Hope I pronounced that right. Please correct me
Speaker 1: if I was wrong, Adam. I want them to bring
Speaker 1: back our sixth man who gave great points production that
Speaker 1: play well with hardener bones, with a pick and roll play,
Speaker 1: Montres Harrel. You're talking about bringing back Montrez. Montrez is
Speaker 1: playing for the thirty six ers right now. I believe
Speaker 1: that is an Australian basketball team, the eight to l
Speaker 1: eight thirty six ers. I am a big Montrez Harral fan,
Speaker 1: big Montrez Harral fan, and yes he was one of
Speaker 1: the many players to wear a Clippers uniform and become
Speaker 1: a six Many of the Year winner. He won it
Speaker 1: in the twenty nineteen twenty twenty season, the COVID Year
Speaker 1: Bubbles Championship, and Montrez wasn't right for that run. He
Speaker 1: had to leave. He had a death in the family,
Speaker 1: and he never really got his basketball legs back in
Speaker 1: the Bubble. It was unfortunate. I don't blame him. You know,
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers was playing him when he didn't look right
Speaker 1: and they had a Beatza Zubas, so they probably should
Speaker 1: have been playing more against a Vista Zubas. There's no
Speaker 1: problem about it. He should have been Zubas should have
Speaker 1: been playing against the oak Excuse me. That was the
Speaker 1: guy who should have gotten more minutes in that series
Speaker 1: against Denver and then I think the Clippers win it.
Speaker 1: But Tres was lethal in the pick and roll, and
Speaker 1: that's what Julie rolled Row is referring to lethal. Those
Speaker 1: guys mastered it in the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season
Speaker 1: before the two to three connection came, and they kept
Speaker 1: it going off the bench for the Clippers. I just
Speaker 1: don't know. Because of all the knee injuries, Montrez Harral
Speaker 1: has had where he's at physically right now. It was
Speaker 1: actually watching highlights from him from just a few days ago.
Speaker 1: And we can watch this together with the Adelaide thirty
Speaker 1: six ers. Montrez Harral, this is where he's at right now.
Speaker 1: I will share the screen because this is almost nostalgic
Speaker 1: for me. It's kind of weird. It's not like he
Speaker 1: has been a Clipper, not been a clipper that recently.
Speaker 1: We're talking about four or five years ago now. But
Speaker 1: here is Montrez Harrel with the Adelaide seventy six ers,
Speaker 1: just from three days ago. I've been keeping an eye
Speaker 1: on him. And when you pay in the super chat,
Speaker 1: this is the type of treatment and premium treatment you
Speaker 1: will get here on Clippers Talk Live highlights from Montrez Harrel.
Speaker 1: I love Tres. I used to love saying Monsta Trez,
Speaker 1: his energy, his emotion that he would play with. Look
Speaker 1: at this guy letting out primal screams as Brian Seman
Speaker 1: would say, ooh, he got up there much of the floor. Afterwards,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing somebody's gonna pick him up at some point.
Speaker 1: And this is his opportunity to prove that he can
Speaker 1: still play by playing international ball right now. He's a grinder.
Speaker 1: He was someone who used to play year round during
Speaker 1: the summer all the time. He and Lou Willett runs
Speaker 1: like that was a constant for this Clippers. Harrow was
Speaker 1: a dog on offense. I say that affectionately. I used
Speaker 1: to call him the Dennis Rodman of offense because of
Speaker 1: his motor and his energy out there, so infectious, so contagious.
Speaker 1: Montrez came into the game, gave him a jolt immediately.
Speaker 1: So depending on where he's at health wise, of course,
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Montrez Harrol return. The problem is
Speaker 1: he's just about a year away from tearing his acl
Speaker 1: and meniscus. Usually that's a two year thing to get
Speaker 1: back to where you were. He's still relatively young enough.
Speaker 1: I want to say he's about thirty thirty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just turned thirty in January, so you know he's
Speaker 1: getting closer for being thirty one. But I like the thought.
Speaker 1: Joey Row. Appreciate the super I appreciate the love here,
Speaker 1: appreciate everybody that's in here. Right now, here's somebody asking
Speaker 1: a question about this. Is one of our listeners from
Speaker 1: Japan honored. Do you think KPJ. Defense over role is overrated.
Speaker 1: Not sure what you mean, but I'll say this about
Speaker 1: Kevin Porter Junior and his defense. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I didn't bring it up earlier. I should have. I
Speaker 1: tweeted this out the other night because we were talking
Speaker 1: about him and his defensive potential and how he can
Speaker 1: project on that end yep in one of our most
Speaker 1: recent episodes, and I think Will said jokingly, does he
Speaker 1: have a defensive highlight tape or something like that? And
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if he did either, so I went
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and yes there was one. Here is that
Speaker 1: tape with Kevin Porter Junior playing some pretty darn good defense.
Speaker 1: Quans were a good defensive team. That doesn't mean an
Speaker 1: individual defender couldn't have been good though. As he gets
Speaker 1: the block there, last line of defense defense from k
Speaker 1: p J. He's a very good athlete. Harry gets the steel.
Speaker 1: That's good. And this is the pick pick pocket with
Speaker 1: the little two headed rim rocker there at the end
Speaker 1: that was on steph Curry just picked his pocket lint
Speaker 1: and all. Now this is him getting back in transition
Speaker 1: and taking it away after he had I think he
Speaker 1: grew up an air ball some three there here's Steven Adams.
Speaker 1: So he comes in on the double team and creates
Speaker 1: a little bit of havoc and creates a turnover there.
Speaker 1: Here he is on the perimeter once again, just taking
Speaker 1: candy from a baby. So I don't think look and
Speaker 1: we end the highlights here with the block against the Lakers.
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, you can say there's definitely
Speaker 1: not something to what he can do defensively because he's
Speaker 1: only listened to six to four. But guys, he has
Speaker 1: a six to nine wingspan, and that's what intrigues me.
Speaker 1: That's what leads to him having the length to be
Speaker 1: a wing and play great defense on the perimeter if
Speaker 1: he wants to a lot of it. I think Pat
Speaker 1: Bevis said this before, defense is ninety effort and want
Speaker 1: to and drive. Does he have it? Does he have
Speaker 1: something to prove? Coach Lou said he's gonna coach KPJ
Speaker 1: hard JJ the Boys says, I'm very interested on the
Speaker 1: defensive upside lineup of Harden, Dunn, Jones, Leonard and Zuba. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you could swap in Man for Done. They're still fine. Guys.
Speaker 1: I've been saying all off season. They have to be
Speaker 1: a top eight defense at worst last season. They finished
Speaker 1: seventeenth defensively this season with the personnel they have, with
Speaker 1: the guys they brought in top eight at worst. If
Speaker 1: you want a chance of staying out of the play
Speaker 1: and that is and I think they want that chance.
Speaker 1: Mark Jack says DJJ will be the starting four. He
Speaker 1: used to play the five in some lineups when he
Speaker 1: played with the Bulls. I think when Kawhi is available,
Speaker 1: he'll be at the four. He'll be guarding fours. Fours
Speaker 1: will be guarding him more than Derreck Jones Junior, just
Speaker 1: because he's so slight a frame. Yeah, those Bulls teams
Speaker 1: were very good. But he can play some four, There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Look, I think he could slide
Speaker 1: up to four on nights where Kawhi not available. If
Speaker 1: they're not putting the toom in the starting lineup, maybe
Speaker 1: you just slide up Derrick Jones Junior, slide up Terrence
Speaker 1: man To to the three spot behind him, with DJJ at
Speaker 1: the four, and then have Norman Powell at the two
Speaker 1: next to James Harden for more scoring because you're lacking
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard. That could be an option. Jay says I
Speaker 1: called Dibbs on any giveaways, Adam, I know you there's
Speaker 1: early enough to ask for one and stay late enough
Speaker 1: to get any left behind. Lol. I'm ready for the
Speaker 1: Clippers basketball. Same underdog, new dog house. Any dogs with
Speaker 1: the house. Yeah, I don't know if I'm giving anything away. Oh,
Speaker 1: the hater raid apparently is running thin. Someone's saying there
Speaker 1: Jordan Miller fan hopefully he develops. Todd Tait says, watch
Speaker 1: the role players play in the Ricohines B ball at UCLA.
Speaker 1: They look decent. Tell me more about this, Todd, Who
Speaker 1: did you see? Who were the guys there? I think
Speaker 1: kpj was there. I know James Harden has been there.
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Jones has been there. JJ to the
Speaker 1: Boys says, to be honest, I'm mostly interested in these
Speaker 1: upcoming preseason games in Jordan Miller's performance. Me too. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you they won't be able to stop him from
Speaker 1: getting minutes. If he plays well in training, camping in
Speaker 1: the preseason, they will have to give him an opportunity.
Speaker 1: He's knocking on the door. That ain't my door, Dash,
Speaker 1: that's Jordan Miller. He wants an opportunity. He's starving for one,
Speaker 1: and it looks like by all accounts, he could be
Speaker 1: earning one soon. Big r R sixty four says Miller
Speaker 1: did a good job in Summer League. He should have
Speaker 1: been the damn MVP of Summer League easily. He beat
Speaker 1: who was it? It was Wilson from the Brooklyn Nets
Speaker 1: who was granted a higher draft pick, Jalen Wilson, but
Speaker 1: the Clippers beat them head to head Jordan Miller outperformed
Speaker 1: him in that game. The Clippers went to the final
Speaker 1: four last four playoff system they have in Summer League.
Speaker 1: His team went farther, so we had more individual success
Speaker 1: with stats, with head to head record against Jalen Wilson,
Speaker 1: and with team success going further. And somehow he didn't
Speaker 1: get Summer League MVP. They gave it to Jalen Wilson.
Speaker 1: What because he was a Jayhawk? Was this Kansas bias?
Speaker 1: Brian Seman, No, you're not the Harvard of the Midwest.
Speaker 1: Clipcher Diace is probably Kai. Not sure what that's referring to,
Speaker 1: my guy Jay. We traded Miller to the Spurs. No,
Speaker 1: Brandon Boston is with the Spurs. Slow your damn role.
Speaker 1: You're about to get Clipper Nation in a panic here
Speaker 1: they didn't trade Brandon Miller. Chill Lord, spare me from
Speaker 1: the casuals. Clipser Di said his Flowers and Miller are
Speaker 1: the two ways. That's what I said. That's what I said,
Speaker 1: trendon Flowers and Jordan Miller. I don't know. Is it
Speaker 1: going to be Kai Jones? Is that who uh clips
Speaker 1: or Die was referring to. Yeah, Kai Jones has basically
Speaker 1: a camp invite, non guaranteed contract. He has everything to prove.
Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of Kai Jones lovers
Speaker 1: out there, and I am intrigued by him and I'm
Speaker 1: rooting for the young man. He went through some mental
Speaker 1: health issues and I'm hoping that part of his life.
Speaker 1: You know, he's more well grounded now and he's doing
Speaker 1: well because there is a ton of potential there. But
Speaker 1: I just want to say this, He's only averaged at
Speaker 1: two and two so far in the NBA. I mean,
Speaker 1: when the Clippers picked him up at the end of
Speaker 1: last season, there were seriously people out there saying kai
Speaker 1: Jones was going to get playoff minutes, this was the
Speaker 1: missing piece, Like y'all are crazy. I'm sorry, but he's
Speaker 1: average at two and two. He hasn't proven anything outside
Speaker 1: of a dunk against Victor Wemba Yama in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Potential is there. I want to see him fulfill it.
Speaker 1: I would love to see him compete for the backup
Speaker 1: five with Mobama. I think that'd be great. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. William Blast points this out. I thought he
Speaker 1: was leaving. Does Tyler let young guys play if they
Speaker 1: earn it. I don't think he's afraid to play young
Speaker 1: guys if they're not gonna look like young guys out there,
Speaker 1: if they're not gonna be liabilities out there. They gave
Speaker 1: Kobe Brown a ten game sample size last season. He
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. Now he got better and progressed, and
Speaker 1: I felt like was better his last game during that
Speaker 1: stint than his first game, where the game sped up
Speaker 1: for him. You could see. I remember he had a
Speaker 1: close out on Klay Thompson on a three pointer. He
Speaker 1: was fouling a lot. That's been an issue for Kobe Brown.
Speaker 1: That's something to monitor. But they gave him a shot
Speaker 1: on a team that had four Hall of Famers, So
Speaker 1: there's gonna be more of an opportunity this season to
Speaker 1: play some of the young guys. Big R sixty four.
Speaker 1: I never disagreed with you, but check out my receipts
Speaker 1: at follow Adam A evil Bot. Speaking of Adam A,
Speaker 1: I really think that besides Miller, Christy will be a
Speaker 1: menace in due time evil Bot Adam in due time,
Speaker 1: Cam Christy guys kill a Cam Cam, I am Christy.
Speaker 1: I'm so hyped for him. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is going to be the season though he breaks into
Speaker 1: the NBA or plays anything close to significant minutes just
Speaker 1: because there's a surplus of guys in front of him.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to do. And he's nineteen, he only
Speaker 1: had one year of college. But he has a real
Speaker 1: NBA skill already. I've identified it. I believe in it.
Speaker 1: His three points shooting is real and spectacular, and I
Speaker 1: think it's already there. It is impressive as hell. I've
Speaker 1: compared it to somewhere in between. His shooting stroke is
Speaker 1: somewhere in between these two players, Michael Porters Junior and
Speaker 1: Devin Booker. Doesn't mean he's going to be as good
Speaker 1: as either of these two guys, high likelihood he won't be,
Speaker 1: but his shooting stroke, his form on his shot, his
Speaker 1: elevation is insane. He can get that up over anybody today.
Speaker 1: But I don't know about all the other little things
Speaker 1: you gotta do as a young player. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: Jay Bo's asks when would Terrence be trayed eligible? Some
Speaker 1: are reporting he already is. But you guys need a
Speaker 1: chill on that stuff. You're upsetting me. This is about
Speaker 1: praising and celebrating Terrence Man. He got paid. The age
Speaker 1: of Man is upon us. I've said it once, I'll
Speaker 1: say it again. Clips or Die says the capit will
Speaker 1: only continue to go up. Thank you, Johnny. No, I
Speaker 1: mean that. It's a good point. It's an obvious one,
Speaker 1: but it is a good point. Mark Jack says, Adam
Speaker 1: so humble. He must be mocking me or he doesn't
Speaker 1: know me. Todd Tait jbos eighty four. He is eligible
Speaker 1: for trade now, that's why I just said. That's according
Speaker 1: to people from ESPN. I mean, Ashan says Adam. Stats
Speaker 1: predictions for each Clipper starter and the percentage from the field,
Speaker 1: effective field goal percentage, free throw percentage, and three point percentage.
Speaker 1: I ain't got enough time for that. I want quicker
Speaker 1: questions here. We'll do that individually with more player profile
Speaker 1: like shows Andy eighty one two ninety three says saw
Speaker 1: a tweet that said Terrence contract can immediately be traded,
Speaker 1: but why can he be but Zoo can't be for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. For that, I will try
Speaker 1: to find something from maybe my guy Lucas Hand don't
Speaker 1: call him Han. He's been really good with salary cap
Speaker 1: stuff like this and why one guy could be eligible
Speaker 1: another guy couldn't be. But unfortunately he's not helping me
Speaker 1: at this time. I don't know. I don't know the
Speaker 1: intricacies and the idiosyncrasies all the time when it comes
Speaker 1: to an evolving salary cap structure and CBA. I don't
Speaker 1: know why man on an extension would be trade eligible.
Speaker 1: But if he's the Zubats is not for this season.
Speaker 1: He's got the Lori marketing thing where he's just he's
Speaker 1: out of the equation. Can't trade for him. This is interesting.
Speaker 1: Here's a quote from Terrence Man, according to Mark Spears,
Speaker 1: about getting the three year, forty seven million dollar extension.
Speaker 1: Forty seven million dollar extension to Terrence Man happens today.
Speaker 1: Terrence Man says, quote, super excited to re sign with
Speaker 1: the t who has been with me from the beginning.
Speaker 1: It's been a great five seasons with this organization, and
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see where it goes from here. Awesome. God,
Speaker 1: I love Team Man. How can you not love Team Man?
Speaker 1: You probably do. There's only one guy in here. There's
Speaker 1: a couple of haters. There's one guy who I may
Speaker 1: have kept a receipt on said take the l today,
Speaker 1: who's always talking about a mere coffee who I love
Speaker 1: to But it's a Terrence Man who's gonna get that
Speaker 1: starting spot before a mere Coffee would, who really struggled
Speaker 1: unfortunately in that series against Dallas. Amr is almost the
Speaker 1: forgotten man right now with this Clippers team, by the way,
Speaker 1: really really is. We haven't talked about him nearly enough.
Speaker 1: Maybe a mirror could be the odd man out and
Speaker 1: be moved. I don't know. I hope not. Uh. I
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with that. Rafa meant to a
Speaker 1: Tres Collin, Luca Punkass white boy was out of line.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe you felt like that. He apologized, they squashed it.
Speaker 1: I get it. That happened in the bubble in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: It was like five years ago, four years ago. Man
Speaker 1: big R sixty four says, I miss watching Lou Williams
Speaker 1: and Mantrez Harold pick and pool, pick and roll, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all do. I want them to retire sweet Lou
Speaker 1: Williams's number at some point. And I don't know why
Speaker 1: he spelled Harold Harold. Maybe because he could dunk like
Speaker 1: Harold Minor. He's getting those guys confused. Our friend from
Speaker 1: Japan says Treads hates too many, but Doc is responsible
Speaker 1: for that. I don't know what that means. Uh. I
Speaker 1: moved by a lot of comments here from a mean
Speaker 1: into thoughts on Trent and Flowers. I don't know much
Speaker 1: about him. He was playing in Australia, I think with
Speaker 1: thirty six ers, and he has a broken wrist which
Speaker 1: is going to keep him out of training camp. We
Speaker 1: just heard that from coach Lou or his recovery from
Speaker 1: the injury. And there are other guys with minor injuries
Speaker 1: we'll find out about probably on Monday or Tuesday or
Speaker 1: sometime next week. Someone's just giving me five dollars. Oh
Speaker 1: that's jam I thirteen twenty four in the super chat.
Speaker 1: My guy, thank you, blessings. Appreciate everybody in here, regardless
Speaker 1: if you donate to the costs or not, And I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is the Human Fund or the
Speaker 1: people Fund, whatever. George Costanza said, Evil Bob Adams says,
Speaker 1: who you rather have Kawhi at the three or the four?
Speaker 1: This is something I asked Don McLain, Clipper's analyst on
Speaker 1: ballet sports, when he came on, if there's a difference
Speaker 1: in physicality or workload or taxation on the body and
Speaker 1: that right knee, and how taxing it is if you're
Speaker 1: playing the three verses of the four in today's NBA,
Speaker 1: which is pretty much positionless, and it really just means
Speaker 1: more positionless than it's ever been. I don't want Lot
Speaker 1: Murray to come after me unless he wants to come
Speaker 1: into the chat, because I didn't invite him here. That's
Speaker 1: what it means. But my thinking is if he's playing
Speaker 1: the four, he's guarding more fours, and he's closer to
Speaker 1: the basket, and there's probably less movement and running around
Speaker 1: in less explosive movements with him having to chase guys
Speaker 1: around the perimeter. Now you could say, well, he still
Speaker 1: ended up with a knee injury by the end of
Speaker 1: last season. He did swelling after sixty eight games, but
Speaker 1: those sixty eight games, most he had played since twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen with San Antonio. So maybe there is something to
Speaker 1: him playing the four and not having to cover as
Speaker 1: much ground because they have these sport Bu cameras in
Speaker 1: every arena now and they track and they also have
Speaker 1: you know, digital technology and new jerseys that track everything,
Speaker 1: so the Clippers know exactly how many more miles or
Speaker 1: how many more feet you have to cover ground you
Speaker 1: have to cover per game playing the three versus playing
Speaker 1: the four for Kawhi Leonard, so I think they're you know,
Speaker 1: exhausting every avenue to make the best decision possible. So
Speaker 1: there's less wear and tear on the right knee. Guys,
Speaker 1: it's not lost on them, trust me. Mark Jaggs says,
Speaker 1: I didn't know Tres was that young. Yeah, he's still
Speaker 1: just thirty. He can recover from that injury. I want
Speaker 1: to see it. William Blast, I don't know who he's
Speaker 1: saying this about, says he has great hands, he's a
Speaker 1: quality defender, very fast and quick. I think he's talking
Speaker 1: about Mantrez Harral. Tres isn't a great defender, he said quality.
Speaker 1: I'd say he's slightly below average. There's the hater KPg
Speaker 1: needs a solid vet to keep him locked in. Yes
Speaker 1: he does. There's plenty of those guys on this Clippers team.
Speaker 1: Mark Jagg says KPGA has so much potential. I'm going
Speaker 1: rapid fire through these comments. Now we got to catch
Speaker 1: up a little bit, so I'll try to be quicker
Speaker 1: of some of the answers. JJ the boys said, if
Speaker 1: PJ Washington can become a menace on the defensive end
Speaker 1: for meaningful basketball games, why not KPJ. Why not? He
Speaker 1: expanded on that or Mark Jag expanded on that point,
Speaker 1: saying KPJ is explosive to we know big R sixty four, Adam,
Speaker 1: they're going to be top three in defense. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about it, doubtful. I'm sorry to burst your bubble. They
Speaker 1: could be. It's not out of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 1: Here's the reason I say they won't be top three.
Speaker 1: We don't know if Kawhi is playing Game one yet.
Speaker 1: What I would venture to guess is that he's playing
Speaker 1: none of the sixteen back to back, so therefore he's
Speaker 1: missing your Game one. On that a first half or
Speaker 1: second half of back to back. There's sixteen of them
Speaker 1: that means he's missing sixteen games at that puts him
Speaker 1: at sixty six games. I don't think Kawhai is going
Speaker 1: to be necessarily available enough for their defense to be
Speaker 1: that good consistently to be a top three defense in
Speaker 1: the league. That's my logic. Top eight will take. Amen
Speaker 1: said we lost a twenty two point per game score.
Speaker 1: That doesn't grow on trees and it's not easy to
Speaker 1: acquire accurate that. Mexican said, what's the preseason lineup? It's
Speaker 1: gonna fluctuate. That's not exactly something that's in the game
Speaker 1: notes already. Jam thirteen twenty four, who was in the
Speaker 1: super chat give me five bucks? Oh, he's guessing of
Speaker 1: guys who could play interesting a chat within the chat.
Speaker 1: There's a question for me, I mean, says Adam. Last season,
Speaker 1: which wins were you most proud of and which losses
Speaker 1: haunted you the most? For me, it's not lost with
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves won eighteen to one hundred. That lost of
Speaker 1: the Bucks won thirteen to one oh six, and that
Speaker 1: lost the lay The twenty one point fourth quarter blown
Speaker 1: lead to the Lakers, by far is one of the
Speaker 1: worst losses in the two to three era, maybe the
Speaker 1: worst regular season loss. They're the team that would always
Speaker 1: come back on you. Then that happened to them. That
Speaker 1: was disheartening. That was hard to see. To have a
Speaker 1: team come back on you in nine minutes when you're
Speaker 1: up twenty one points is insane. I hated that. That
Speaker 1: was really frustrating. It felt like a turning point in
Speaker 1: the series between the Clippers and Lakers, and the regular
Speaker 1: season series they've had that has been dominated by the
Speaker 1: Clippers the last ten years. In fact, they ended up
Speaker 1: winning the all time Hallway Series in the regular season
Speaker 1: by a couple of games. They beat the Lakers more
Speaker 1: times at Staples Center and Crypto than the Lakers beat them.
Speaker 1: Leave it or not, I'm gonna grab a gator right here.
Speaker 1: I'll be back in two seconds. My voice is failing me.
Speaker 1: Hey you guys still here? All right? Cool? Who's this?
Speaker 1: I'm they talking?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I give you, s Adam. But I really do appreciate
Speaker 1: you doing these pods. As a Clippers fan, We've never
Speaker 1: had this type of coverage attention. Thanks for taking the time.
Speaker 1: Real talk my guy, ghost fist Bump Virtual fist Bump.
Speaker 1: I have committed and I said this yesterday on the
Speaker 1: podcast on a Clipperstop Live with Carlo Jimenez, your radio
Speaker 1: voice of the Clippers. I've committed to this. When the
Speaker 1: regular season starts, there will not be a day where
Speaker 1: I don't have some new content here on this channel,
Speaker 1: on YouTube at Clippers Talk. There will not be a day.
Speaker 1: If there's a day I don't have something new up
Speaker 1: for you, it's because of two things. I'm dead or
Speaker 1: I got fired. It's only one of those two things.
Speaker 1: Even if I do lose my voice like I do
Speaker 1: routinely during the season, and this might be good for
Speaker 1: me to get some preseason reps in with my voice,
Speaker 1: because it is starting to fail me. Only an hour
Speaker 1: and a half in here, as I've been talking a lot,
Speaker 1: but I got your content right here. As bTB would say,
Speaker 1: I want to have so much for you guys this season.
Speaker 1: I promise you. I'm committed. I love Clipper Nation, even
Speaker 1: the haters, even the guys giving me s, even the
Speaker 1: guys using me as their avatar in this live Currently
Speaker 1: that Mexican says that's his name. I assuming KPJ goes off,
Speaker 1: which you trade norn Bones and Tucker the deadline for
Speaker 1: who I mean the name they've traded him for and
Speaker 1: then I'll tell you a lot of stuff's gonna be
Speaker 1: it on the table. What's the record that near the deadline?
Speaker 1: You got to add a few more things in there.
Speaker 1: Give me a little bit more context of this hypothetical.
Speaker 1: Christy can also play defense, Joey Rowe, who is a
Speaker 1: super chatter Joe Lee. I picked up on that too
Speaker 1: in Summer League. That was one of the most heartening
Speaker 1: things because the knock on Cam Christie was that he's
Speaker 1: too slight a frame. He doesn't have an NBA body yet,
Speaker 1: he's not physical enough. Guys are gonna punk him. And
Speaker 1: I saw him give great effort defensively. I put up
Speaker 1: multiple highlights at follow out of May on Twitter during
Speaker 1: Summer League of him locking guys up, getting steals. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe the defense Cam Christie played, but it's still
Speaker 1: just summer defense. Those aren't NBA players. He was guarding
Speaker 1: for the most part, still encouraging though the effort was there.
Speaker 1: Adam thanks this long stream. Although he looks tired, I
Speaker 1: get that a lot. Not tired, trying to stay awake.
Speaker 1: I got my diet mountain dew like I'm skip Bayless.
Speaker 1: You guys give me energy. Yeah, that's just how Adam
Speaker 1: looks due to Zee, Like fifty calories a day JJ
Speaker 1: the boys out lying I met about. I don't know
Speaker 1: five hundred calories in so far today? Will I have dinner?
Speaker 1: Who knows? I Just what UH sustains me is Clippers basketball.
Speaker 1: That's what I run off of that Mexican nars As.
Speaker 1: Does Kawhi guard the second or third best player in
Speaker 1: the starting lineup? He's gonna be guarding the third best
Speaker 1: player if any combination of team man Derek Jones Jr.
Speaker 1: And Chris Dunner out there, any two of those three
Speaker 1: are in the starting lineup with him, who'll guard the
Speaker 1: third best guy until there's big moments like we saw
Speaker 1: last season where he guards Steph late in the ball game,
Speaker 1: or Jamal Murray in wreck that pick and roll like
Speaker 1: he and Zubats did with Murray and Jokic and clamp
Speaker 1: Steph Curry like he did late in the ball game.
Speaker 1: Save him and his spectacular all world defense that he
Speaker 1: still has in him for big moments. That's something Lawrence
Speaker 1: Frank made a point of at the Press are on Tuesday, saying,
Speaker 1: you know, this is something where you're trying to build
Speaker 1: a team that can insulate Kawhi a little bit more,
Speaker 1: save him from himself, save his legs a little bit
Speaker 1: more because he doesn't have to run around and guard
Speaker 1: the other team's best player, second best player. He can
Speaker 1: guard their third best player now because they have so
Speaker 1: many good defenders with the way this Clippers team is constructed,
Speaker 1: Sky says Adam. Who you think is Garden book and
Speaker 1: Durant on opening Night? I think Derek Jones Jr. On KD.
Speaker 1: I think Terrence Man will be on Devin Booker's start
Speaker 1: because I think that both those guys will be in
Speaker 1: the starting lineup for the Clippers. That's a perfect example.
Speaker 1: So Kawhi doesn't have to start guarding either of them now.
Speaker 1: Of the moments, yeah he will, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: let those guys sick. Those guys on the other team's
Speaker 1: best players because less is asked of them on the
Speaker 1: offensive end, so they have fresher legs. They're also younger,
Speaker 1: Derek Jones Junior and Terrence Man. They're not having to
Speaker 1: do so much on offense like Kawhi is, so let
Speaker 1: them expend more energy on defense. JM. Thirteen twenty four
Speaker 1: says those were the guys who are at the Rico
Speaker 1: Hines run. Oh he was pointing that out earlier. Let
Speaker 1: me see if I can find that PG was there
Speaker 1: this past season. A dem Bona out of UCLA, gotcha,
Speaker 1: Kobe Brown was there? Got you? Yeah? That Lakers loss,
Speaker 1: You know, it haunts me a little bit, not too much,
Speaker 1: but other people don't want to remember that either too much.
Speaker 1: PTSD cannot let Lakers fans win. Frank you boy nine man. Adam,
Speaker 1: you know some Clippers channels talk bad about Kawhi or
Speaker 1: our front office. You're the only channel that is always
Speaker 1: positive with our team. Thanks Adam. I wouldn't say always positive,
Speaker 1: Like I have things I've criticized plenty. I've had frustrations
Speaker 1: here in this episode. I've criticized PJ. Tucker starting a
Speaker 1: must win game plenty of times. I don't know if
Speaker 1: anyone should be criticizing like Kawhi he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be injured. I always say this, but what is he
Speaker 1: supposed to do? Scream at his knee? Don't be injured knee?
Speaker 1: What do you want the guy to do? He's injury prone.
Speaker 1: It sucks if you're mad about the contract. Was he
Speaker 1: not supposed to take it when they offer it. How
Speaker 1: can you blame Kawhi for this? He gave his ACL
Speaker 1: trying to win the Clippers a championship in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: They likely do if he doesn't tear his ACL in
Speaker 1: a Clipper's uniform. I feel terrible for the guy. It sucks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you say, well, he's still getting paid. How
Speaker 1: bad can you feel? Guys, he loves playing. That's what
Speaker 1: he loves to do. He obviously doesn't have many other
Speaker 1: hobbies outside of recording skateboarders and stuff like. He is
Speaker 1: a basketball junkie. Kawhi, he loves it. It's his passion.
Speaker 1: He wants to play. He wants to win a championship
Speaker 1: for the Clippers. He doesn't want to be remembered as
Speaker 1: an injury prone player, which is unfortunately, that's what he's
Speaker 1: being defined by right now. His injuries through no fault
Speaker 1: of his own from playing hard on both ends. Evil
Speaker 1: Bought Adam says, like and subscribe if you're a real
Speaker 1: Clippers fan. Facts, I'm starting to like this guy. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a troll at first, but I'm kind
Speaker 1: of getting into it. Jay keeps asking me, have I
Speaker 1: seen my seat? Yet. No, I have not seen my seat.
Speaker 1: I have been to into it dome. I have seen
Speaker 1: the glory, I have seen the Promised Land, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't getting a tour of the broadcasting section at that time,
Speaker 1: so it'll be new to me once we're there for
Speaker 1: a couple of games during preseason. We're also going to
Speaker 1: be at a game in Oceanside where the Jilligue Clippers
Speaker 1: are now. They have a preseason game there. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's a nice seat, because there isn't a bad seat
Speaker 1: in the house. It into a dome. You don't have
Speaker 1: to call Steve Chill. Don't worry, guys, zero calories. JJ
Speaker 1: the Boy says, I hate Joe Ingles. I don't even
Speaker 1: I've watched that play many times. I don't think there
Speaker 1: was anything that dirty Joe Ingles hot take. I don't
Speaker 1: think there was anything that dirty that Joe Ingles did. Honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the game was out of hand, you can. I don't
Speaker 1: want to revisit this. I don't want to go down
Speaker 1: this road anymore. My god mk x l n T
Speaker 1: says what up at him and Clippers fans Nice Friday
Speaker 1: surprise surprise. Terrence Man forty seven million dollar three year extension.
Speaker 1: Congrats to team Man you love to see it. Haters
Speaker 1: and shambles, clips or die says people that act like
Speaker 1: Kawhi doesn't want to play and is scamming the team
Speaker 1: as a ridiculous take, as if he has control of
Speaker 1: him getting hurt. Just bad luck, Thank you, facts, preach,
Speaker 1: go on more. Who's this becance? I mean? Says bro
Speaker 1: Macant's called Kawhi overrated? L m a O. What you
Speaker 1: know who's not overrated? Kawhi or this man? Lave Murray
Speaker 1: on the Athletic oh swinging in like Superman out of
Speaker 1: no or is it a bird, it's a plane? No,
Speaker 1: it's it's La Murray here to save my voice because
Speaker 1: I've been talking for a damn hour and a half
Speaker 1: on this Terronceman contract. Everybody in the chat show La
Speaker 1: Murray some love, my friend.
Speaker 3: I figure, I figure, you know what, you must be
Speaker 3: crazy if you're still talking about.
Speaker 2: This John.
Speaker 1: Well, you know I am so like.
Speaker 2: I picked the wrong day to get a cut, I.
Speaker 1: Picked the wrong day to stop sniff and glue the
Speaker 1: wrong week. Well, air Flane shout out for you. Lat
Speaker 1: Murray is with us at La Murray the U is
Speaker 1: where you finds him low. Did you just drop an
Speaker 1: article or are you still working on that with a
Speaker 1: Terrence Man extension.
Speaker 3: I've done my work first, man, I wasn't trying to
Speaker 3: mess around with that.
Speaker 2: Uh so shout out, shout out to.
Speaker 3: Sean's shout out to the athletic as as always and
Speaker 3: as usual. But you know, someone got a right the
Speaker 3: damn thing. So so yeah, I was. I was on
Speaker 3: that piece. But you know what those like, I've written
Speaker 3: a Terrence Man extension story before, so you know, Uh.
Speaker 2: It's not like I ain't know what I was doing.
Speaker 1: I've been here before, to me as a copy paste job.
Speaker 1: It just means law wasn't surprised by this happening.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I probably should have been a copy paste shop
Speaker 3: like it was damn near the same month three years ago.
Speaker 3: I remember I was dealing with the worst toothache ever
Speaker 3: and I was coming from Ontario, California. Horrible trip, horrible game.
Speaker 3: I was in so much pain I didn't even bother driving.
Speaker 3: The night after the game, I booked a hotel just
Speaker 3: so I could sleep, and on my way back to
Speaker 3: LA from Ontario, that's when Terrence signed his new deal.
Speaker 2: So that was three years ago.
Speaker 3: And you know, a lot of a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of people, look, criticism is criticism, you can say,
Speaker 3: which I won't. A lot of people think that Terrence
Speaker 3: hasn't grown at all since that deal that he signed
Speaker 3: three years ago, And that was pretty much what I
Speaker 3: wrote about. It's like, I ain't the case.
Speaker 2: I ain't even you know, he tears.
Speaker 3: Has had to deal with a lot of role changes
Speaker 3: and he's I think he's he's handled them well and
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to handle another one this up coming
Speaker 3: season because the talent is different, expectations are different. But
Speaker 3: it's it's great for him that he doesn't have to
Speaker 3: worry about this contract decision hanging over his head anymore.
Speaker 1: Do you believe? And I want you to expand a
Speaker 1: little bit on that thought when it comes to people
Speaker 1: saying his game has not evolved, he hasn't developed further.
Speaker 1: What I just saw in that series against Luka Nancic
Speaker 1: where he held him forty percent from the floor about
Speaker 1: twenty percent from the outside, to me, that is the
Speaker 1: pinnacle of his defense so far, and in a high
Speaker 1: pressure moment, that's the best defense he's ever played. To me,
Speaker 1: like that was huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know what I'm won't say though,
Speaker 3: like Terrence has to do more on that end of
Speaker 3: the floor.
Speaker 1: I agree, He's got to be more consistent, not just.
Speaker 3: More consistent, just more more impactful, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 3: I think that the team has addressed something and we
Speaker 3: saw that earlier this week. Uh, they addressed on them
Speaker 3: that they felt like was an issue last year, the
Speaker 3: year before that, the year before that. You know, I
Speaker 3: don't think they felt good about their point of attach
Speaker 3: defense since Patrick Beverley was last on the roster. So
Speaker 3: now you've got three guys who are not named Terrence
Speaker 3: Man that can hopefully handle more of those responsibilities Derrick
Speaker 3: Jones Junior, Chris Dunn, Nikola Batoom. That means that Terrence
Speaker 3: is already He's Terrence is into Paul George Row in
Speaker 3: terms of you're off the ball more, you're guarding up,
Speaker 3: you need to you know, he needs to do two things.
Speaker 3: He needs to rebound more, and I think he is
Speaker 3: capable of doing that, especially if he's starting at the
Speaker 3: guard spot. But he's just got to make more splash plays.
Speaker 3: I don't question terrence effort defensively. It's about effectiveness. It's
Speaker 3: about impact. He can he's got the length, he's got
Speaker 3: good hands, he can do he can do those things.
Speaker 3: But now you know he's in a competition for his
Speaker 3: starting job like that is a that that's a real thing,
Speaker 3: and so we got to see how it goes.
Speaker 1: Does this deal I don't know tip the hand of
Speaker 1: the Clippers at all when it comes to that starting
Speaker 1: two guard spot. To me, Terrence Man does have the
Speaker 1: inside track. So so you know, he started seventy one
Speaker 1: games last season for the Clippers. Does this tell you
Speaker 1: anything with what happened today regarding if he has I
Speaker 1: don't know, a little bit more of a margin of
Speaker 1: error for holding on to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that t Lou gave him a very
Speaker 2: nice compliment. He outlined.
Speaker 3: What he wants from that starting job next to James Harden.
Speaker 3: You know, he's very detailed about it in a way
Speaker 3: that he usually.
Speaker 2: Waits to be detailed about things.
Speaker 3: You know, he said, he wants someone to make shots,
Speaker 3: someone to attack the basket, someone who's going to consistently guard,
Speaker 3: and someone who's going to make plays. And so that's
Speaker 3: that's that's a lot of things. And and one of
Speaker 3: those things that he didn't say that Lawrence. Frank said
Speaker 3: was they need rebounding from Terrence specifically, but in general,
Speaker 3: Tilu's looking for a slasher, a playmaker, a shooter, a defender.
Speaker 3: And then he said Terrence has been great at all
Speaker 3: those things. So the incumbent is Terrence Man, the favorite
Speaker 3: is Terrence, and Terrence just got is deal. So in
Speaker 3: other words, it's Terrence's job to lose, not any other
Speaker 3: way around.
Speaker 1: How much of a team friendly deal do you view
Speaker 1: this as? Because to me, when I see our guy
Speaker 1: Justin Russo point out that next season, with cap projections,
Speaker 1: Terrence Man's contract will only take up, you know, ten
Speaker 1: percent of the salary cap, I thought maybe he'd get
Speaker 1: eighteen million. Outside chance he got twenty million per season
Speaker 1: or closer a Zoo got around nineteen million, and it's
Speaker 1: just below on average sixteen million. Yeah per year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, talking to people close to Terrence,
Speaker 3: they know that they probably could have got more money
Speaker 3: if he would have went into the open market next year,
Speaker 3: but they also feel like Terrence isn't really you know,
Speaker 3: concerned with.
Speaker 2: That that that the.
Speaker 3: Difference between what he's going to make and what he
Speaker 3: probably that have maxed out on his VALUEES is relatively
Speaker 3: you know, negligible. You know, Terrence's was entering free agency,
Speaker 3: and we just saw a very strange free agency period
Speaker 3: this past.
Speaker 2: Year with the new CBA. We saw guys.
Speaker 3: Who are going to start for teams next year who
Speaker 3: didn't get paid, who are really good players. You know,
Speaker 3: I think of a Gary Trent junior. Gary Trent junior
Speaker 3: was traded for Norman Powell. What team just Norman Powell
Speaker 3: played for?
Speaker 1: That would be, uh, well, currently the Los Angeles Clippers.
Speaker 3: Exactly right, So two guys who played the same position,
Speaker 3: the same position at Terrence plays.
Speaker 2: Norman is older than Gary.
Speaker 3: Now, obviously the Blazers gave up more than the Raptors
Speaker 3: did in the trade to get Norm, and then the Raptors,
Speaker 3: I mean, and the Blazers wind up paying Norm, the
Speaker 3: Raptors wind up paying Gary. Right, those contracts, you know,
Speaker 3: not exactly the same. Norm got a little more, but
Speaker 3: the Blazers got out of that deal quick. He wound
Speaker 3: up getting traded to the Clippers once they kind of
Speaker 3: saw that they weren't looking like a playoff team. The Raptors,
Speaker 3: you know, deal that Gary just signed, just expired, and
Speaker 3: Gary could have extended while before that contract inspired but
Speaker 3: they didn't reach a deal, reach free agency. That dude
Speaker 3: was stuck without a chair when the music stopped, and
Speaker 3: he winds up in Milwaukee, and shit, that's a great
Speaker 3: situation as far as the team, the players that he
Speaker 3: gets to play with. The role that he'll probably be
Speaker 3: in is very close to the role that he was
Speaker 3: up there in Toronto. But he's on a minimum on
Speaker 3: a one year deal. He's got to try again next summer, right,
Speaker 3: And so like when you look at those kinds of situations,
Speaker 3: you go, Okay, I got.
Speaker 2: Something on the table here. Do I want to mess
Speaker 2: it up next year?
Speaker 3: And again? Next year's Clippers roster is bulletile. I can
Speaker 3: see a number of Terrence is the best example. He
Speaker 3: could tell you. You never know what the hell is gonna happen,
Speaker 3: especially in his role. A guy like him, he could start,
Speaker 3: he could come up the bench, he could have the
Speaker 3: ball in his hands a lot. He could have his
Speaker 3: ball in the hands. Very little injuries could happen. He
Speaker 3: got hurt last year, right. He won the starting job
Speaker 3: last year coming out of camp, but right before the
Speaker 3: season open against the Blazers, he brings his ankle. It's
Speaker 3: not a garden variety spring. He misses two weeks by
Speaker 3: the time he comes back healthy. That wasn't the same
Speaker 3: team that he won the starting job from. Okay, he
Speaker 3: won the starting job against guys like Nikolotoom and Robert Covington.
Speaker 3: By tell him he came back, James Harden's on the
Speaker 3: team and then trying to start Russell Westbrook next to
Speaker 3: James Harden, which meant Terrence had to play his first
Speaker 3: score games last season coming off the bench. Anything can happen, right,
Speaker 3: and so Terrence, I feel like you understand these situations.
Speaker 3: And I felt like it was more valuable to Terrence
Speaker 3: to take the money and take the deal now than
Speaker 3: to mess around for a few extra dollars to leave somewhere,
Speaker 3: you know, elsewhere.
Speaker 1: We got Lt. Murray from the Athletic joining us here
Speaker 1: on another Clippers Talk Live for the third time in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and I am happy to have him.
Speaker 3: Law.
Speaker 1: The door has always been open for him. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's the Law. He can just kick it in himself
Speaker 1: if he needed to. But I want you guys right
Speaker 1: now to open a tab, go to the athletic sign up.
Speaker 1: It's well worth it. You'll probably get some introductory trial
Speaker 1: run for seven days if you don't like it, but
Speaker 1: you will, you can, you know, cancel your membership, but
Speaker 1: you want this type of coverage all season long?
Speaker 3: From really got me.
Speaker 2: Here telling people cancel shit, Come on at them.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just saying, like, there is no risk.
Speaker 1: You've got time to give it a try, see if
Speaker 1: it suits you, and it will. I'm so damn confident
Speaker 1: that you will stay all season long because things start Monday.
Speaker 1: Media Day starts. That's like the first day of school.
Speaker 1: We all get to see our friends long. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: you'll be in Hawaii with the squad.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll be.
Speaker 3: I'll be in Hawaii, I'll be in Seattle.
Speaker 2: If I if I, if I.
Speaker 3: Hook up a ride, I'll be everywhere I need to
Speaker 3: be before week one.
Speaker 2: So that's that's the plan.
Speaker 1: So Law's gonna be there, boots on the ground covering
Speaker 1: this team in Hawaii, Seattle, ocean side throughout the preseason
Speaker 1: and throughout the entire regular season and hopefully into the
Speaker 1: playoffs with this squad. And there's no better read and
Speaker 1: no better rider in the game. He is well sourced.
Speaker 1: He and Shams have been breaking news left and right
Speaker 1: as of late for the Athletic so Law. We've talked
Speaker 1: about Terrence Man not only having the inside track. I
Speaker 1: like the way you put it, it's his job to lose.
Speaker 1: Do you think Derek Jones Junior is the guy playing
Speaker 1: next to him with the two three in the starting lineup,
Speaker 1: because most people are just assuming that, but Coach Blue
Speaker 1: made it very apparent that there is competition for spots
Speaker 1: and Paul George is no longer here, so there is
Speaker 1: one other slide open.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean that's that's why I've been sliding.
Speaker 2: For now. You know.
Speaker 3: I think Kawhi's status makes things challenging on that front,
Speaker 3: just because I think a lineup with Derek and Terrence James,
Speaker 3: Kawhi and Zoo, I think that makes sense. I think
Speaker 3: that if Kawhi is not available, that's where things get
Speaker 3: a little tricky, because then I feel like you need
Speaker 3: more juice offensively, and whether that means you slide nor
Speaker 3: them in that school, but that makes you that that
Speaker 3: legitimately makes you kind of kind of small because then
Speaker 3: you're talking. I'm not worried too much about Norm, Terrence
Speaker 3: and and James playing together. It's it's the fact that, like,
Speaker 3: especially if Derek's your point of attack, guy, like your
Speaker 3: your your wings are little, You're a little small there.
Speaker 3: But I won't be surprised if that's what t WU does.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 1: Earlier I said, they'll just slide up Derek Jones Uter
Speaker 1: to the four, tars Man to the three, put In
Speaker 1: Nor next to James Harden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I feel like that's one way they could
Speaker 3: do it. You know, I think offensively it could work. Defensively,
Speaker 3: I'd have concerns. The flip side to that is a
Speaker 3: guy like Nicholas Patum him coming in if Kawhi is
Speaker 3: not there, and then it's like but if you start Terrence, Derek,
Speaker 3: and and and Nicott, I feel like that's Defensively, I
Speaker 3: think that's a that's a pretty decent lineup. I'd have
Speaker 3: very little concerns about guys being able to guard in
Speaker 3: that kind of setup. I think offensively it would be
Speaker 3: it would be a mess. That's just too many guys.
Speaker 3: That's just too much pressure on James. You know, let's
Speaker 3: Terrence is really about that life handling the basketball, which
Speaker 3: I think he could be.
Speaker 2: But that's where everyone needs to see it. The most
Speaker 2: growth from Terrence.
Speaker 3: It's not about his ability to play on the ball.
Speaker 3: It's being in a higher volume role and he's scaled.
Speaker 2: He has shown he can scale up Like.
Speaker 3: That January February run in twenty twenty three, people were
Speaker 3: very excited about what Terrence was able to do in
Speaker 3: that spot. I was only telling people two things. One,
Speaker 3: Paul's doing most of the playmaking, you know, even though
Speaker 3: Terrence was the nominal point guard, and two the Clippers defense,
Speaker 3: and actually the third the Clippers defense was not very
Speaker 3: good during that stretch, even though they won games and three.
Speaker 3: The other thing that wasn't very good was their ability
Speaker 3: to operate in fourth quarters offensively. Like Paul was dragging.
Speaker 3: Reggie was the more effective player in a lot of
Speaker 3: those fourth quarters compared to Terrence, just because you know,
Speaker 3: all game long ball handling the basketball, if you're not
Speaker 3: if you're still in a close game, you could see it.
Speaker 2: Impact those guys.
Speaker 3: But the point is, if Terrence is an all where
Speaker 3: he doesn't have to be the point guard, but he
Speaker 3: gets to handle the ball more, touch the ball more,
Speaker 3: that dude is shown that he can produce and that's
Speaker 3: the team that is going to resemble itself next year.
Speaker 3: It was the same thing in the twenty one to
Speaker 3: twenty two season, Like he came off the bench, but
Speaker 3: the main bench pieces for that team, especially in the
Speaker 3: second half of the year after the trade deadline, was Terrence,
Speaker 3: Luke Nard, Robert Covington, Isaiah Hartenstein. Isaiah was the guy
Speaker 3: that they were playing through as far as a offensive hub,
Speaker 3: but the guy who was hitting on the ball a
Speaker 3: lot more was Terrence. So that's the team that you
Speaker 3: should expect to see, or at least the role from
Speaker 3: a touch perspective, that you should expect to see from
Speaker 3: Terrence next year.
Speaker 1: If he is starting as we believe he will be, again,
Speaker 1: how many minutes per game is he going to be
Speaker 1: up from where he was this past season, because there
Speaker 1: are a lot of guys that could be getting opportunities.
Speaker 1: We talked about KPJ and when coach lew said about
Speaker 1: him effusive with his praise Tuesday at the press conference.
Speaker 1: But last season, Terrence, man was it twenty five minutes
Speaker 1: per ball game? Do you see that going up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, not much, but I do see it. I do
Speaker 3: see it going up some. It kind of has to. Like,
Speaker 3: there's just there's a lot of minutes like Russell Westbrooke,
Speaker 3: Paul George is not on the team. It's just a
Speaker 3: lot of minutes that I need to be accounted for.
Speaker 3: And you know there's a lot of guys who have
Speaker 3: to play those minutes who were on the team last year. Right,
Speaker 3: you didn't bring in that many high minute guys. You
Speaker 3: brought in Derek Jones Jr. Derek is not going to
Speaker 3: play as much as Paul did last year. You brought
Speaker 3: in Chris Dunn. I don't see Chris Dunn playing a
Speaker 3: whole lot more than Russell Westbrook played last year. Sot Nikolabatune.
Speaker 3: I think Nico winds up taken pretty much the bulk
Speaker 3: of the minutes that guys like Amir Coffee and Daniel
Speaker 3: Tice played. Mobama is going to play, not very much,
Speaker 3: but like he's going to play the minutes where you
Speaker 3: got to stay with a center on the floor and
Speaker 3: Zoo's not on the floor.
Speaker 2: That opens everything up. And I don't think you can
Speaker 2: increase James Harden and Kawhi Leonard's minutes. If anything, you
Speaker 2: should be looking to decrease those guys minutes that means
Speaker 2: that the three guys who have to get ready to
Speaker 2: play more are Zoo, who we talked about before. I
Speaker 2: don't see him getting that anymore, but he's got to
Speaker 2: play a little more. But also Norman Terrence and Norman
Speaker 2: Terrence nominally they played the same position, but it's not
Speaker 2: like those guys can't play together. But Terrence is more
Speaker 2: versatile than Norman's. So I think Terrence has to be
Speaker 2: in a position where, yeah, like he's gonna have to play.
Speaker 3: More minister than he did last year easily.
Speaker 1: Is there something too, because it has happened two years
Speaker 1: in a row, maybe for different reasons. Last year you
Speaker 1: mentioned the ankle injury he was dealing with, But is
Speaker 1: there something to these slow starts from three from Terrence
Speaker 1: Man or is it just fluky shooting variants and there's
Speaker 1: no reason he can't start the season off hot this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just gotta I mean, he's been working.
Speaker 3: I do think that the ankle definitely messed that dude up,
Speaker 3: so hopefully for his sake, he's over it. But I
Speaker 3: think when it comes to when it comes to Terrence
Speaker 3: Man like, he just gotta be confident his shot, Like
Speaker 3: the the three point percentage is one thing, but I
Speaker 3: mean everyone has seen Terrence shoot good percentages from everywhere
Speaker 3: the field, from three, the frea throw line. It's the volume.
Speaker 3: Like Terrence can't shoot for percentage anymore. Like they need
Speaker 3: shots up like they were dead last. We talked about
Speaker 3: this dead last and catch and shoot threes attempted last year.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's one of the biggest criticisms you can
Speaker 3: have from Terrence to season. Last year, I don't I
Speaker 3: can't tell you how many times we saw that dude
Speaker 3: pump fake drive kick just because he thought, you know,
Speaker 3: he could create a better shot for someone else, and
Speaker 3: you know what, sometimes he did. It's a nice mindset
Speaker 3: to have as a pro basketball player to you know,
Speaker 3: pass up a good shot for a great shot. But
Speaker 3: this year, the best shot that that team might take
Speaker 3: will be Taran shooting at the first stand time. So
Speaker 3: that that's what it is. It's about volume, need more
Speaker 3: attempts from everywhere. You're a good percentage shooter. You've been
Speaker 3: a good percentage shooter year over year over year. No
Speaker 3: one's worried about that anymore. People want to see Terrance
Speaker 3: shoot the dan ball with confidence.
Speaker 1: Completely agree with you. He's a thirty seven percent career
Speaker 1: three point shooter on just over seven hundred attempts so
Speaker 1: far in his career. It's kind of proven, so he
Speaker 1: needs to take more. He started the first twenty five
Speaker 1: games last season shooting just twenty one percent from three,
Speaker 1: but the last fifty games he was at forty four
Speaker 1: percent and then shot forty five percent in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: An element to his game that I think is a
Speaker 1: little bit underrated. I know you're very much aware of it, Law,
Speaker 1: but speak to this guy in the restricted area. Because
Speaker 1: last season he was only second to Luka Doncic in
Speaker 1: in guards when it came to guys who at least
Speaker 1: took one hundred and fifty tempts in the restricted area,
Speaker 1: Terrence was at seventy five point seven percent, and the
Speaker 1: year before he was third in that area, only behind
Speaker 1: the Aaron Fox and Steph Curry. He is a finisher
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean back to back years and I just
Speaker 3: wrote about this, back to back years where uh, he's
Speaker 3: made better than seventy percent in that restricted area. So
Speaker 3: I mean, and if you watch Terrence play, like you
Speaker 3: see why that dude comes to the basket with force.
Speaker 2: He dunks the basketball.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 2: He is capable of getting downhill and punishing. Uh.
Speaker 3: He just needs to do more of it, damnit. Like
Speaker 3: that's really what it comes down to, what you really
Speaker 3: want him to. If there is an area that he
Speaker 3: needs to improve when it comes to finishing, it's on
Speaker 3: the break. Like the Clippers can be a real adventure
Speaker 3: on the fast break in Terrence's that, I'm part of that,
Speaker 3: a part of that adventure. So again though, like just
Speaker 3: I think Terrence is at his best when he's mad,
Speaker 3: when he's playing furious basketball, and he needs to play
Speaker 3: with that chick on his shoulder offensively more often. He
Speaker 3: needs to play like the team is down when they're
Speaker 3: up more a little more often. I remember when we
Speaker 3: came home from Dallas after game for Serious Tide of
Speaker 3: two and people reminded him it's like, I mean, you're
Speaker 3: two wins away from advancing, and Terrence was like, I
Speaker 3: like to look at it as two wins away from
Speaker 3: our season.
Speaker 2: Being over, which you know, we know how the story
Speaker 2: ended there.
Speaker 3: But like he's just got to have that mindset of,
Speaker 3: you know, just tear the damn rim down, and I
Speaker 3: think he can get there.
Speaker 1: As the great Geeter McGee once said, let's rage Terrence Man.
Speaker 1: I think he was. He was talking about Andre Drummond
Speaker 1: coming to the Lakers. But this is lot murray on
Speaker 1: with me here on a Clippers talk live as we're
Speaker 1: approaching the two hour mark after the breaking news with
Speaker 1: Terrence Man getting a three year extension at forty seven
Speaker 1: million dollars just under sixteen sixteen million dollars per season annually,
Speaker 1: so we had a question here for you Law and
Speaker 1: this kind of ties in, but Amen was asking how
Speaker 1: do you think the Clippers can do in the absence
Speaker 1: of Kawhi Leonard? And he clarified and was asking how
Speaker 1: do they try and remain over five hundred if they
Speaker 1: are missing him him for a chunk of time and
Speaker 1: we know throughout the season on back to backs they
Speaker 1: will be How does this team get by.
Speaker 2: Defense? You just they have to defend.
Speaker 3: It's it's not it's not negotiable like that's it like that?
Speaker 3: How did they get to forty two and forty three
Speaker 3: years ago? They defended the ass off with with with
Speaker 3: a team that didn't have, you know, splash defenders. I
Speaker 3: don't think anybody on that team was close to an
Speaker 3: All Defense Award nom or anything like that. So that
Speaker 3: team defended smart and they defended with urgency because it
Speaker 3: was the only way they're gonna win win games.
Speaker 2: So that's the only way it gets done this year.
Speaker 3: They no matter how much harder than Kawhi played, like like,
Speaker 3: I can see a soon area where James Harden and
Speaker 3: Kawhi play, and if they play lazy ass defense with
Speaker 3: those guys.
Speaker 2: Playing games, they're not going to win.
Speaker 3: So no matter who's playing, they have to defend. And
Speaker 3: how do you defend. I'm a Dean Oliver guy. I'm
Speaker 3: a four factors guy, so I'm always looking at five things.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at. Are you fortune turnovers, your on ball
Speaker 3: miss forcing misshots, your off ball forcing misshots, your rent protection,
Speaker 3: and your rebounding? In other words, can you stop guys
Speaker 3: from getting to the free throw line? Can you limit
Speaker 3: the amount of threes teams take? You know, there's so many.
Speaker 3: You can't take everything away, but you have to understand
Speaker 3: what you're taking away and be consistent about it. And
Speaker 3: I've already heard the Clippers they want to be consistent
Speaker 3: about getting back on defense, getting into their half court sets,
Speaker 3: making teams take tough shots, and ending possessions with rebounds.
Speaker 3: And that's my biggest concern with this Clippers teams going
Speaker 3: in the next year. They have a lot of subpar
Speaker 3: rebounders there. Jones junior subpar rebounder Terrence Man. We've already
Speaker 3: heard the call to action with him.
Speaker 2: Norman Powell.
Speaker 3: One of the bigger concerns about Norm. I actually thought
Speaker 3: Norm was good defensively last year. If you don't believe me,
Speaker 3: look at all the Power Rangers lineups that you kept
Speaker 3: talking about, Like one reason that was effective is because
Speaker 3: Norm was effective defensively with with those guys out there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like no, I don't think Norm's issue is sitting down
Speaker 3: and guarding.
Speaker 2: It's the splash plays. Are you forcing turnovers? Are you
Speaker 2: are you ending possessions with rebounds? Look at Norm's rebounding
Speaker 2: numbers like that's they have to all be better there.
Speaker 2: And so that's the question. I have a concern there.
Speaker 3: But Jeff van Gundy, his priorities have always been to
Speaker 3: take away the paint. Look at who jeffvan Gundy's disciples
Speaker 3: have been. His disciples. You know Tom Thibodeau is on
Speaker 3: Jeff van Gundy's bench. Well does Tom Thibodeau defenses look
Speaker 3: like every season you're they're you're You're more likely to
Speaker 3: get an open shot than you are to penetrate the paint.
Speaker 3: So that's that's just what it comes down to. I
Speaker 3: think that team has to sit down, guard with urgency,
Speaker 3: get back on defense so that you're not giving up
Speaker 3: easy shots. But when you force missus and I think
Speaker 3: this team can force misshuts, they have to end the
Speaker 3: possessions with rebounds. And because I don't think they'll rebound
Speaker 3: that well, I do think they have to be more
Speaker 3: active in passing lanes and force some more turnovers, even
Speaker 3: if it means they are allowing some more free throws.
Speaker 3: They have to just defend with urgency next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. They just don't have the
Speaker 1: personnel to be very good to great rebounding team. Could
Speaker 1: they be above average, that'd be nice, but they got
Speaker 1: to do it collectively and guys have to be more
Speaker 1: mindful of it. But you mentioned that team from the
Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty two season, they were eighth defensively
Speaker 1: top ten. Yeah, they were less talented than this team.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this team has to be at least top eight.
Speaker 1: What do you think their full potential could be defensive
Speaker 1: rating wise this season, somebody was saying they're going to
Speaker 1: be top three Adam and I kind of pushed against
Speaker 1: that because I don't know if Kawha is going to
Speaker 1: play enough games for them to be top three. He
Speaker 1: is still one of their better defenders. If we're already
Speaker 1: assuming he's missing sixteen games with the back to backs,
Speaker 1: that puts him in sixty six. I don't know about
Speaker 1: top three, but could they be fifth defensively? Because last
Speaker 1: season you look at Minnesota. Carlo Jimenez was on with
Speaker 1: me yesterday and brought this up. It was a great
Speaker 1: point I forgot about this Minnesota was they were below
Speaker 1: average on offense all season long. They were a bottom
Speaker 1: ten offense throughout much of the season. The difference was
Speaker 1: they were number one defensively by a pretty wide margin,
Speaker 1: and that got him to fifty six wins. So where
Speaker 1: do you think this Clippers team could end up ranking defensively?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't see a top ten defense in this team.
Speaker 3: I think they can approach it, though. I think they
Speaker 3: can be better than they were last year, Like I
Speaker 3: think they can be.
Speaker 2: You know, on the better.
Speaker 3: I think they can be in the low teams. You know,
Speaker 3: I think they can approach eleven, twelve, thirteen. What numbers
Speaker 3: are you looking at for Minnesota's offense. By the way,
Speaker 3: I don't recall them being bottom ten like they.
Speaker 1: Finished seventeenth. I think they were bottom ten through a
Speaker 1: lot of the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, seventeen sounds about right. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's below average, but you know it ain't in
Speaker 3: the twenties, you know, That's what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: There were points where they were, but you're yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't twenty fifth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And I mean the thing with Minnesota is too, they
Speaker 3: tricked a lot of games off. They were one of
Speaker 3: the worst fourth quarter teams in basketball. I mean we
Speaker 3: saw that play out in the Western Conference finals, Like
Speaker 3: they had multiple games where better fourth quarter execution offensively,
Speaker 3: and that's a different series against the Mavericks. You know,
Speaker 3: it put their defense in a spot where I don't
Speaker 3: care how good you are defensively, that team didn't execute
Speaker 3: and good defensive performances through three quarters put them in
Speaker 3: a spot where game's turning in the point coin flips
Speaker 3: and I don't really want to coin flip with Luka
Speaker 3: Dante's Okay, that that three that he made over Rudy
Speaker 3: Robert that might replace the Reggie Jackson montage that.
Speaker 2: John was so that Jones was so bad.
Speaker 3: It had people thinking that the Mavericks won that series.
Speaker 2: Uh for for a time. But nah, I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think the Clippers are going to be a
Speaker 3: top seven defense, but I think they can be better.
Speaker 3: Just like I don't think the Clippers offense, you know,
Speaker 3: is going to be top five like it was last year.
Speaker 2: It's going to fall off.
Speaker 3: But I do think that there's a chance that the
Speaker 3: Clippers offense could be where the Clippers defense is. I think,
Speaker 3: you know, I think top ten is a stretch giving
Speaker 3: the talent, but I think given the execution, they can
Speaker 3: be in the in the top half of the league.
Speaker 2: You know, I do think that the Clippers net rating.
Speaker 3: Will be around zero to one, but you know, I
Speaker 3: think that there's a there's a pathway for them to
Speaker 3: be on the positive side of that and to be
Speaker 3: a decent team.
Speaker 1: That scares me a little bit, only because my theory
Speaker 1: is for them to have a chance to get out
Speaker 1: of the plan, they got to be top eight. Defensively,
Speaker 1: I just don't see another way because I don't think
Speaker 1: their offense. Their defense to me might be ahead of
Speaker 1: their offense this year, which isn't great. I but you know,
Speaker 1: I've kind of come around and thinking that if James
Speaker 1: Harden is healthy, he is a system.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's James Harden that we're talking about. You have to
Speaker 3: look at it like this. The defense is going to
Speaker 3: come down to the coaching. Are you putting the right
Speaker 3: guys in position? Do they know what they're doing? Are
Speaker 3: they going to consistently buy in? Are they going to
Speaker 3: get off the plane in winter when you know your
Speaker 3: bones in a little different and you're still going to
Speaker 3: want to, you know, get those stops on the second
Speaker 3: night of the back back on the road. That's what
Speaker 3: defense is to me. You know, they had the personnel
Speaker 3: to defend pretty will. I don't think they have the
Speaker 3: personnel to rebound, but I think they have the personnel
Speaker 3: to defend and get those things done offensively. There's a talent,
Speaker 3: you know, they're not working at the talent margin that
Speaker 3: they were in the years past. However, they have outstanding
Speaker 3: coaching and they have James Harden. James Harden is not
Speaker 3: only good for himself, but James Harden is good for
Speaker 3: the team, the teammates that he has on that on
Speaker 3: that end of the floor he's going to I just
Speaker 3: feel like there's there's a floor that comes with James
Speaker 3: on that side of the ball, So like they're going
Speaker 3: to understand Here's Like, for example, one of the things
Speaker 3: that always makes me mad is when people hate on isoball,
Speaker 3: like because it's not the quote unquote beautiful game shit
Speaker 3: that they got used to seeing from the twenty.
Speaker 2: Fourteen Spurs or whatever.
Speaker 3: And I would say I would be right there with y'all,
Speaker 3: except that the Clippers had elite isolation players.
Speaker 1: So like too, the top two guys.
Speaker 3: So I mean, now your issue is, you know, I
Speaker 3: think your issue is there are a lot of shot.
Speaker 2: Clock violations for the Clippers.
Speaker 3: Like if I go back and look, I think that
Speaker 3: the Clippers were among the top teams in the league
Speaker 3: and shot clock violations, like they can't be that stagnant.
Speaker 3: They can't, you know, rely on it. But god damn,
Speaker 3: like they were a top five offense last year even
Speaker 3: with the laziness of their offense for the most part.
Speaker 3: I know, you flashed some bullshit about me hating on KPJ, Like.
Speaker 2: I didn't even Rea. I just saw. I just saw
Speaker 2: a few verbs, and I'm like, now.
Speaker 3: There's a difference. There's a difference between hate and.
Speaker 2: And being realistic about a situation.
Speaker 3: We can get to that, but let me just finish
Speaker 3: this point about ISO, Like if the the thing that
Speaker 3: the Clippers do is they get matchups and they're like,
Speaker 3: we're just gonna beat you with the same matchup over
Speaker 3: and over again. You know, it's like eating beans and rice.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna have a commercial about it, but it's
Speaker 3: probably gonna be good for you to win games depending
Speaker 3: on your personnel. The personnel's different, so you're not gonna
Speaker 3: see as much isoball, You're gonna see a lot more
Speaker 3: picking rolls this year. But I think that's what TLU
Speaker 3: does Telu offensively. His philosophy is where are the mismatches
Speaker 3: on the floor, and how can we exploit them to
Speaker 3: the point where you can't have those players on the
Speaker 3: floor anymore. Like if you got a big on the floor,
Speaker 3: we're gonna go small and punish your big. If you
Speaker 3: got a tiny guard on the floor, we're gonna go small, small,
Speaker 3: pick and roll until that guy is stuck guarding a
Speaker 3: guy he can't defend.
Speaker 1: I have also found the ISO hating to be a
Speaker 1: pet peeve of mine because it's like.
Speaker 2: Look at who's in the finals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in every.
Speaker 2: Those are ISO teams.
Speaker 1: Bro Every playoff game often resorts to a lot of
Speaker 1: ISO ball at the end. And the Clippers had the
Speaker 1: two top ISO guys in the league last season Kawhi,
Speaker 1: then down the list, it's Paul George. There was a gap.
Speaker 1: Kawhi was so spectacular in ISO. When it came to
Speaker 1: pois per possession. Oh yeah, he was second, only second
Speaker 1: to Kawhi. So if you have the top two guys,
Speaker 1: you better do some ISO. And they finished fourth offensively,
Speaker 1: How can you complain with the results if you don't
Speaker 1: like the style of play. I understand dime dropper Darian
Speaker 1: Visieri doesn't. He doesn't like the ball pounding, but you
Speaker 1: can't say it's not effective. I don't think he does.
Speaker 3: All right, Uh, lot of we can talk about Kevin
Speaker 3: real quick. I want to see I want I want
Speaker 3: to see this and I want to address it because
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm repeating the same shit and people
Speaker 3: aren't listening.
Speaker 1: Let me read this because people could listen to this
Speaker 1: later on the podcast side, they won't see it. Jordan says,
Speaker 1: lost a haten, hating on the defense, hating on our
Speaker 1: role players, hating on KPJ. Even went straight out of
Speaker 1: the head of the coach, straight out of the head
Speaker 1: coach's mouth to lie, says kJ O. KPJ is going
Speaker 1: to have a huge part in this team hating non
Speaker 1: Kawhi Law correct this.
Speaker 2: Man, I mean, I'm not hating.
Speaker 3: I'm a realist about situations when it comes to how
Speaker 3: a season plays out, how a rotation gets put together,
Speaker 3: how a team is going to try and start a
Speaker 3: year like you come out Week one and we hear
Speaker 3: it every year from t Lou Like this, dude, t
Speaker 3: Luke started Eric Bledsoe and Reggie Jackson together over and
Speaker 3: over and didn't change it until like ten games or
Speaker 3: whatever it was, you know, I mean, just because he
Speaker 3: felt like that's what he was sticking to, that was
Speaker 3: his fit.
Speaker 2: I thought Terrence was starting that year.
Speaker 3: It's like, now we're gonna start Eric, Reggie, Paul Marcus,
Speaker 3: except Marcus's knee never got right. Sounds familiar with another
Speaker 3: power forward they're dealing with this year and zoom. So
Speaker 3: you know, with Kevin's situation, people keep thinking I'm talking
Speaker 3: about the talent, and that's why I'm like downplaying expectations
Speaker 3: early in the season. I don't know, Like if he's
Speaker 3: going to be available to play in Week.
Speaker 2: One, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It seems important, it seems for especially for a guy
Speaker 3: who wasn't on the team, especially for a guy who
Speaker 3: didn't play NBA games last year, Especially for a guy
Speaker 3: who is on a team with a bunch of dudes
Speaker 3: who sound like you're going back to the Piston or
Speaker 3: the Hornets or the twenty twenty three Houston Rockets, one
Speaker 3: of the worst teams in the basketball you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. We're talking about a team that made the playoffs,
Speaker 3: you know, the last couple of years, and a team
Speaker 3: that has real dudes competing for spots now. So I
Speaker 3: mean Kevin's going to compete. He's going to probably show
Speaker 3: out at some point. I just don't think it's happening
Speaker 3: early because there's some extenuating circumstances that still need to
Speaker 3: be determined.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all I'm saying about that.
Speaker 1: I think it's completely fair. I've agreed with you the
Speaker 1: entire time. I was a little bit surprised how much
Speaker 1: Coach Lou made it a point to say, hey, he's
Speaker 1: really talented. He wouldn't make twenty million dollars if he
Speaker 1: wasn't having a coach on ball on.
Speaker 2: The team, if he wasn't if Kevin.
Speaker 3: Not to be Again, this is kind of disrespectful, but
Speaker 3: it is what it is. We just got to say
Speaker 3: it for what it is. If Kevin Porter Junior wasn't
Speaker 3: talented with what you know we're talking about off the court,
Speaker 3: we're not talking about them period.
Speaker 1: You're not getting other opportunities.
Speaker 3: If you're not this talented, dull Coursey talented, that's not
Speaker 3: that's not the issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm totally with you. Oh, I think
Speaker 1: we just got a Sham's bomb. You're a coworker. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go to this and you can read it,
Speaker 1: and this is a this is interesting here Shamshrania up
Speaker 1: the athletic where Law Murray works, law breaking news the fire.
Speaker 2: That's all I will say about that.
Speaker 1: Well, Shap's is saying the Minnesota Timberwolves are nearing a
Speaker 1: trade to send All star Karl Anthony Towns to the
Speaker 1: New York Knicks. Sources tell me I was wondering what
Speaker 1: would happen with him. I don't see how this affects
Speaker 1: the Clippers anyways, but we knew the Knicks need some
Speaker 1: help in the front court.
Speaker 2: Where there's smoke, there's fire. I gotta I gotta mix
Speaker 2: some I gotta do some things. So you have a
Speaker 2: good night at them.
Speaker 1: All right, lall, you got work to do. The bat
Speaker 1: signal went up, Go get it. I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 1: There goes a lot Murray, Carl Anthony Towns going to
Speaker 1: the New York Knickerbockers. That is interesting. Yes, the Knicks
Speaker 1: are a problem. The Knicks were good before this. They
Speaker 1: had a little bit a hole of a hole in
Speaker 1: the front court. This helps them in that area greatly. Wow.
Speaker 1: Now the question is what are they giving up? Is
Speaker 1: it going to be a net positive if they have
Speaker 1: to give up a lot? And we just found out
Speaker 1: the trade package is centered around Julius Randall Dante de
Speaker 1: Vincenzo for Carl Anthony Towns, Randall and Dante DiVincenzo. So ooh,
Speaker 1: they're losing one of the Villa Nova guys to get
Speaker 1: Carl Anthony Towns, but I would say that is a
Speaker 1: nice fit for the Knicks. I like that fit. I've
Speaker 1: said for a while, I don't know about Julius Randall
Speaker 1: with this team, but now the Minnesota Timberwolves have him.
Speaker 1: All I know is I think nas Reed I like
Speaker 1: him more in the starting lineup in some ways than
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns for the Minnesota Timberwolves, I do. I
Speaker 1: think it makes it makes sense, and it could make
Speaker 1: both teams better a little bit of addition by subtraction,
Speaker 1: because while Towns did step up in the playoffs and
Speaker 1: proved his worth, there were a lot of questions all
Speaker 1: season long if they could be better without him because
Speaker 1: of how good nas Reed has gotten. Nas Reed he's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite player. He is really good. I
Speaker 1: don't know if the Clippers won that trade mkx l
Speaker 1: n T. If you're assuming that Minnesota got worse because
Speaker 1: of this, I don't know if that is a fact.
Speaker 1: Minnesota was the three seed last season in the Western Conference.
Speaker 1: There's still gonna be a top three seed. And I
Speaker 1: think it was an odd fit with Carl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 1: I think it could be better if they have Julius
Speaker 1: Randall coming off the bench maybe, or even him instead
Speaker 1: of Karl Anthony Towns next to Rudy Gobert. But Nas
Speaker 1: read to me, this opens up more playing time for
Speaker 1: him and that is a positive for them. Karl Anthony
Speaker 1: Towns in New York. I think it makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. They get back to having more of a
Speaker 1: stretch big like they have with Kris STAPs Porzingis, you know,
Speaker 1: six years ago or whatever it was. But him next
Speaker 1: to Mitchell Robinson. Whether or not Karl Anthony Towns is
Speaker 1: playing the five or they're going Robinson at the five
Speaker 1: and him at the four, it's interesting. They're big, they're tough.
Speaker 1: I like the fit for both teams, honestly, I do.
Speaker 1: Jordan says Kat is so good they should have to
Speaker 1: give up that bum Gobert. There's a reason France benched
Speaker 1: his ass all of the Olympics. Nasty ass player. Ruddy
Speaker 1: Gobert pretty much makes you a top ten defense just
Speaker 1: having him on your team. Does he have limitations along
Speaker 1: the perimeter? Are there certain teams that can play him
Speaker 1: off the floor. Yes, But to call him a bum
Speaker 1: it likely means you're a casual. I'm sorry, Jordan, you
Speaker 1: said that earlier that mess you were talking with Law
Speaker 1: Murray didn't like that. Rudy Gobert, yes, he has his limitations.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make him a bum. He automatically makes you
Speaker 1: a top ten regular season defense and he's still is
Speaker 1: very good at times in the playoffs. There's just certain
Speaker 1: times against teams where the matchups don't work. Evil Bot
Speaker 1: says that they playing Kat at the four the five.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll get opportunities at both because he can
Speaker 1: stretch the floor. He can play the four next to
Speaker 1: a big like Mitchell Robinson and not clog up the
Speaker 1: paint too much on offense. I think he'll probably start there. JM.
Speaker 1: Thirteen twenty four says, I got to deal with the
Speaker 1: Knicks and seventy six or eight times this year. He's
Speaker 1: a Celtics fan. Can we be serious? What is life
Speaker 1: f This stuff is not Clippers related outside of Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I think just got slightly better. Honestly, I think so
Speaker 1: Nasried is like that him getting more playing time is
Speaker 1: meaningful for them, and that's what this does. So I
Speaker 1: think it's addition by subtraction for them. It's a edition
Speaker 1: by addition for the Knicks Dante DiVincenzo. That's a loss.
Speaker 1: That's I don't worry at all about losing Julius Randall
Speaker 1: like that fit and he didn't show up in multiple
Speaker 1: playoff series for them. I don't trust him. People said
Speaker 1: it didn't trust Cap, but he actually played pretty well,
Speaker 1: and they don't. They do not win that series against
Speaker 1: Denver without Karl Anthony Towns. But overall, I think they
Speaker 1: might have a slightly higher ceiling. Now we'll see. They
Speaker 1: still got to the conference finals. They got beat up there.
Speaker 1: But it's it's interesting. I I I first blush. I
Speaker 1: think both teams got a little bit better. Jordan says
Speaker 1: respect either way, even though he's calling guys bums and
Speaker 1: saying laws of hater. We love this talk on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Is great keeping all of us basketball fans in our team. Blessing,
Speaker 1: blessings up, y'all. I'm way up. I feel blessed. All right, Jordan,
Speaker 1: we'll squash it. We'll leave it at that. Respect, respect
Speaker 1: all the way around. I've appreciate you guys. This is
Speaker 1: the longest Clippers Talk Live I have done, especially because
Speaker 1: the majority of it I was going solo. It was
Speaker 1: great to have Law Murray in here to clean up
Speaker 1: any inaccuracies when it came to the Terrence Man conversation,
Speaker 1: and once again, I just want to say, because he
Speaker 1: is such a great ambassador and reliable player for the
Speaker 1: Clippers and a great young man who's now turned twenty eight,
Speaker 1: I guess not so young, but a true pro. Congrats
Speaker 1: to Terrence Man. Really happy for him. Three year extension,
Speaker 1: forty seven million dollars. It's still team friendly, it's still
Speaker 1: a great deal for the Clippers, and it's burning the
Speaker 1: hand over two in the bush for Terrence Man. You
Speaker 1: waited out you could not have a chair when the
Speaker 1: time the music stops. By the time the music stops,
Speaker 1: that's what happens with Gary Trent juniors. Law Murray so
Speaker 1: eloquently pointed out, Terrence Man was not going to let
Speaker 1: that happen to him. Take the money, get it done,
Speaker 1: a little more certainty, clarity, knowing that you're the guy
Speaker 1: that has the inside track and is the favorite to
Speaker 1: win that starting two spot. I think Terrence Man is
Speaker 1: going to prove haters wrong this season. However many and
Speaker 1: they are the vocal minority. I think he is going
Speaker 1: to shoot a higher percentage from three than he did
Speaker 1: last year. Overall, he's going to average, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: at least ten points per game, and there are going
Speaker 1: to be Knights where he shows off a lot more
Speaker 1: in his bag because it's necessary because they need him to.
Speaker 1: And he's coming off a playoff series against the Dallas
Speaker 1: Mavericks where if you forgot, he held Luca to forty
Speaker 1: percent from the floor. Oh you want to point out
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic was a little bit banged up. Well, he
Speaker 1: got more banged up as the playoffs went along and
Speaker 1: still shot a higher percentage against guys like Lou Dort.
Speaker 1: Terras Man did the best job against him that anyone
Speaker 1: did while getting nine points per game, shooting forty five
Speaker 1: percent from three, getting five boards, so the rebounding was
Speaker 1: nice in the playoffs. He needs to do a little
Speaker 1: bit more than what he did in his thirty one
Speaker 1: and a half minutes per game against Dallas in that
Speaker 1: six game series in the first round last season. In
Speaker 1: this regular season, That's what I'm saying. Someone did bring
Speaker 1: up evil bod Adams said if it could be related
Speaker 1: Julius Randall coming to the Clippers and the clip sitting
Speaker 1: players to the Wolves, there's no indication of that. Guys
Speaker 1: that would be I've talked about that. A little bit
Speaker 1: has been brought up. I think Julius Randall will be
Speaker 1: an interesting fit. Obviously you'd have your four, then you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to worry abou Kawhi playing the four. But
Speaker 1: as I kind of point out earlier, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's really more taxing or not than playing the three.
Speaker 1: It's kind of arbitrary. It might be less movement, less
Speaker 1: miles traveled per game, less feet traveled on the floor
Speaker 1: per possession. On the defensive end, if he's playing the ford,
Speaker 1: it might be better for Kawhi that way. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't figure it out either way. But there's no
Speaker 1: indication that he's being re routed or something, or any
Speaker 1: of these players are being re routed to the Clippers.
Speaker 1: He didn't hold Luca, Oh he didn't. He didn't hold Luca.
Speaker 1: Luca didn't shoot forty percent in that series, and terrace
Speaker 1: Man wasn't his primary defender. Do you need me to
Speaker 1: bring up these receipts? Is this how we're gonna end?
Speaker 1: Thanks tonight? You want to see the proof in the pudding?
Speaker 1: I got it. For you. Here's Lukadocch. Since some people
Speaker 1: are non believers and still hating on Terrence Man. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you all try this. I don't know
Speaker 1: why you try this, Luka Doocich. Yes, he got his
Speaker 1: thirty points per game. That's here. It took him twenty
Speaker 1: five and a half shots to get there. Why because
Speaker 1: he shot forty percent from the floor and twenty four
Speaker 1: percent from three and Terrence Man was his primary defender.
Speaker 1: Don't come at me with this stuff. You know I
Speaker 1: got the facts here. Don't even try it. Luca was hobbled.
Speaker 1: I just brought this up. He was more hobbled Chico
Speaker 1: Johnson as the playoffs went along, Yet he was shooting
Speaker 1: a higher percentage against other defenders than he was Terrence Man.
Speaker 1: He was moving worse and playing better against Luke Dort
Speaker 1: and abusing him at times, something he wasn't able to
Speaker 1: do against Terrence Man. That's not a good point. My goodness.
Speaker 1: Too many casuals in here today. Oh A means got
Speaker 1: my back? Yeah, I'll show it to you. I'll do
Speaker 1: it in real time. I don't care. I will embarrass
Speaker 1: myself like this. Terrence Man was healthier, healthier, in the
Speaker 1: first round against Excuse me, Luca dontons was healthier in
Speaker 1: the first round against Terrence Man than he was as
Speaker 1: the playoffs went along, as he continued to get more
Speaker 1: and more banged up, Yet he shot his worst percentage
Speaker 1: against the Clippers and Team Man. Against OKC he was
Speaker 1: shooting forty five percent from the floor and thirty nine
Speaker 1: percent from three, and was going right at loudor against Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Against all there are good defenders, lucat doncon shot forty
Speaker 1: seven percent and forty three percent from the outside while
Speaker 1: being more banged up, and then shot forty seven percent
Speaker 1: against the Boston Celtics. You can't use injuries as an
Speaker 1: excuse for why you only shot forty percent against Terrence
Speaker 1: Man when he ended up getting more and more injured
Speaker 1: while his shooting percentage was going up against other teams
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, win along, sorry facts, get out of here,
Speaker 1: Get out of here, Chico Yeah, thirty points on twenty
Speaker 1: five shots. The reason the Clippers were in that series
Speaker 1: is because of how inefficient Uka Doncic was. Terrence Man
Speaker 1: gave them a chance. He gave them a chance because
Speaker 1: of how good he was defensively. Do you not understand this.
Speaker 1: You can't deal with some people too emotional, not me,
Speaker 1: though level headed. You can tell fact hammer and it
Speaker 1: wasn't a velvet hammer boom. Mkxcel nt said it. I
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. My voice is shredded. I
Speaker 1: appreciate all you guys for coming in tonight, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate the Clippers rewarding Terrence Man and for him being
Speaker 1: signed on a three year extension. I am happy for him.
Speaker 1: It is good to see Terrence Man in the Clippers
Speaker 1: uniform and that continuing. This has been a long ass
Speaker 1: almost two and a half hour. We're almost entering Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings extended edition of a Clippers Talk Live
Speaker 1: here because of the breaking Terrence Man news. But it
Speaker 1: was important to do because I want to remind you
Speaker 1: when this stuff happens, I will be going live. You
Speaker 1: can count on me for that. I'll be reliable and
Speaker 1: I will have during the season when the regular season starts,
Speaker 1: new content for you every single day on this channel
Speaker 1: at Clippers Talk on YouTube every day. I'll have new
Speaker 1: content once the Clipper season starts October twenty third, add
Speaker 1: into it Dome against the Phoenix Suns. So I would
Speaker 1: subscribe I'm gonna be consistent. I don't care how shulder
Speaker 1: my voice gets during the season, I will be here,
Speaker 1: believe that. Thanks a lot Murray for jumping in and
Speaker 1: coming on. We need a trilogy, Sol says, No, the
Speaker 1: Hobbit trilogy. That didn't need to be a trilogy. They
Speaker 1: didn't need to extend that out.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Oh now Chico Johnson, Oh, he's spiraling. Oh, the Clippers
Speaker 1: will get eliminated for the plan because he didn't like
Speaker 1: the fact that well, the facts hit him square in
Speaker 1: the face and he looks bad now, so now he
Speaker 1: has to move those goalposts. Evil Bot Adams says, fact slap.
Speaker 1: I like this guy good looking too. I will see
Speaker 1: you guys and talk to you guys next time Monday,
Speaker 1: I will have at least one show for you. It's
Speaker 1: media Day. I will be there. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: reconnect with a lot of people from the Clippers organization.
Speaker 1: I'm going to see all our friends and talk to
Speaker 1: the Clippers. I'll have some live streams for you. You
Speaker 1: also want to make sure that you get to me
Speaker 1: on Instagram and follow me there because during the season.
Speaker 1: During the season, I will be doing a lot of
Speaker 1: live streams. Also on the Instagram side, the Instagram handle
Speaker 1: is clippers Talk Follow Adam A. That's my Instagram handle.
Speaker 1: My handle on x would be at follow out of May.
Speaker 1: My handle here on YouTube is that Clippers Talk. My
Speaker 1: handle on TikTok is that Clippers Talk. But on the
Speaker 1: gram it's Clippers Talk Follow Adam A and I will
Speaker 1: be doing a lot of live streams, pregame and postgame.
Speaker 1: Oh more questions. Clips er Die says, are you going
Speaker 1: to live stream when you do Clippers Talk before and
Speaker 1: after games of this season? Yes? Just answered it, Just
Speaker 1: answered it. Yes, this channel is super underrating, Terrence Man,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Our friends from Japan faker fans
Speaker 1: are something coming here and getting slapped by at them
Speaker 1: with facts cook the frauds. Yeah, maybe that's all I'll
Speaker 1: eat for dinner tonight. Uh, you all are well done cooked,
Speaker 1: Chico Johnson. All right until next time, likely on Monday,
Speaker 1: unless there's more breaking news. This this has been another
Speaker 1: edition of Clippers Talk. I love you all.