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Speaker 1: And we're back because they didn't put this in notes

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kind of did everyone watch the Venom three trailer. I'm

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sure they've seen it. Okay, good, So we're not gonna

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bring it up because we've gone long. You know the

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fucking fal Cones Deli that.

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Speaker 2: Kirk you get to shake your head. You got here

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like twenty minutes ago. You can't go, oh, yeah, we've

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been long.

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Speaker 3: You know it's been long.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so this happen, This was gonna be remain

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sorry about kicked it at the end so Kirkham could

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talk about this little bit.

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Speaker 2: Got the trailer last week.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the tickets are and sell yet I

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got the trailer last week. I imagine who knows what everyone

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wants to say about it, but for me, you know,

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say what'll say?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's Venom movie.

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Speaker 1: And then but the big thing was that they preview

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or in the preview, was they alluded to a bigger

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thread out there, and it's nol. If people don't know

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who knowl is they introduced him a couple of years ago.

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There's like a symbioe plan and he's like the creator

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of the symbiotes. And yet did it all that stuff

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very much like a okay, big huge villain for the symbiotes,

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okay Venom right, and then that happened, and then there'd

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be there was a chorus respondents of And I think

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this is because the double of three things one Venom

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is currently doing reshoots in New York right now, and

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Tom Holland had met with the rumor with any Pascal,

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so people are drawing some lines.

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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 1: I think it's because Destin Daniel Crayon or whatever you

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say his name, he got the Spierman gig and then

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he got this trailer. There was a copious amounts of

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stuff coming out now from from i'll say.

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Speaker 2: Higher seat your scoopers. No one in the C plus

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or B level.

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Speaker 1: But enough of like smoke, there's fire situation that apparently

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it is sounding like that Spiman four might have something

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to do with Venom four and all, even to the

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extent of maybe having Venom in said.

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Speaker 2: Movie and all being the big villain. I don't know

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where that it would go.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like the original plans of being a pure

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street level movie are dead. We had talked about this

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for the rumors of Kingpin and Daredevil that come again.

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this or just just I don't know if it was

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in all versions or some versions, but was Scorpion, which

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was a note up but also mister negative. So it

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sounds like there might be finally connecting these things.

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Speaker 2: But again we don't know. These are just scuttle butts

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Speaker 1: But Nol is a big character and there's a lot

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of smoke going on with some of these rumors right now. So, Kirklin,

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we have talked about many times about Noll, and I

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think you had stressed that even if you might sometimes

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enjoy these movies, that maybe you weren't wanting all to

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be introduced here.

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Speaker 2: But where are you now?

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Speaker 1: As far as uh, Venom three trailer null possibly and

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Venom being maybe connected as Firemen four and that being

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some sort of multiverse symbio, because they already said like,

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that movie is like the symbio you know, stuck in

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that universe, So you can't say it's like not completely

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about all this stuff?

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've just been like a disbelief all

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week because I didn't watch the trailer till today. I

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don't even know how many days ago it was, but

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Speaker 3: You you got your fingers.

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Speaker 1: The last point, too, is the rumor, as Norman Retis

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is playing, all that is still just seat here, but

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that is the current rumor you'd mentioned that.

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the talks of it expanding into into the multiverse of

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cymbi symbiotes, and I don't know, like it's weird that

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ten years ago, not even ten years ago, wasn't that

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a lot of symbiote live action content and you're not

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gonna want it. Little yeah, you lies impossible, But like

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don't want this, Like I don't know, like.

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Speaker 4: I think I had that thought going into Venom two,

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let there be carnage, and I was very surprised about

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how just awful that was and I had low expectations

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna really try and stay open, but as

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not really looking forward to it, and I don't see

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how they'll be able to do a fantastic job about this.

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Speaker 2: And do you like Nola as the sperm and four

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villain if that happens, Like if this is.

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Speaker 1: Like the setup and then the payoff is them teaming

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movie and just kind of what's showing with him, Like

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if the movie's awful, but I really love everything around

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Nol and like if it is Norm the big Norm

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: And Noah is just such an interesting character that I

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somber and dour like I don't know, it's it's a

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little bit different than kind of how I pictured nol

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they gotta change that up if they if he is him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't know, I'm gonna I think I'm

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this news and like actual confirmation that that Noll is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's strange. It's very strange.

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Speaker 2: Film the strange. You don't have anything as far as

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knowledge of Null, So I know that, But what about this.

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Speaker 3: He's got the card and Marvel snaff I know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

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like a very silly thing to say, but I just

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Speaker 2: Way he talks.

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Speaker 5: I don't like the vibe of it. You know, I

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Speaker 2: Think so, I think twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 5: Well, I might need to third one.

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Speaker 3: I don't know Dylan's solo Venom Retro.

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Speaker 5: What it's probably one that I'll be on the coach

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Speaker 3: It'll be one of those.

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Speaker 2: But no, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't really want this stuff to cross over with MCU.

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really want this vibe over there. I mean maybe the

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Null stuff is cool and interesting, but from what we

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like I don't really want this. Tom Holland, who's like

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gooey monster, Like I wanted it to be a more

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personal thing to the character of Peter Parker as well,

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even if I guess that's kind of tricky because no

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one knows who Peter Parker is. So either way, I

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that is not the particular vibe I'm looking for. But

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it sounds like the more and more rumors to get,

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the more and more it sounds like this movie is

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not gonna be a small scale thing, which I never

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Was there another element to this that I'm forgetting about

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: No, I think I think that was it there.

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Speaker 1: So I'll go because maybe will be more positive because

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Speaker 2: Now, if you would have told me the Multiverse stuff

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Speaker 1: Right. It's the three speimen again, because why wouldn't you

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that's what people want. I don't know, like, here's the

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thing to take my bias out of it, because I

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Speaker 2: I can't say there's not like a money aspect to it.

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Speaker 1: Based off the first two venoms, I would be very

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and if them three just fucking eats it, if they

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like a sure thing yet because that movie is still

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we've seen that before. Aucamant to captain Marvel just because

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they're big hits a couple of years ago. The audiences

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movie with Tom holl And, Vincentinofio and Charlie Cox, or

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we have a movie with him and Tom Hardy. What's

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gonna be better? Well, it's a Tom Hardy one, you know.

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people would want to see them interact. I think people

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that don't know Venom do like Venom and think he

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for a cup of coffee or a cup of beer

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or whatever. No, I just really don't know other than like,

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is that just the way, Like that's how we because

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he can be multiversal, Like that's how we get Venom

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one adventure and then get him into the Avengers, I

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feel like it's gonna be weird of like, Okay, he's

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in Doomsday and he's fighting Doom, and then okay, then

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he goes and fights Nol And I guess maybe though

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if maybe that's what happens, like doom doctor Duomake throws

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him to like a null planet and just like maybe

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symbial planet or something, right, I don't know, so maybe

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there is wasys. Again, it just does not excite for

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me at all. But I just think Disney and Sony,

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money and who knows, maybe there's a situation where they

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wanted to do that three Spider Men one and to

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it again, or they want to save it for Secret

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Speaker 2: They're like, well, they want to make.

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Speaker 1: Something meaningful, meaningful, a connection, not just like a cameo scene.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, for me, I'm not a fan of this all,

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especially because like mister negative, I was really I pitched

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that last week. I think there's some money to be

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had there, especially with the director. I think we could

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have had some great times there. And again they even

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this report from the Scooper said, like it's not that

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this street level movie is dead. It just might be

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down the line, but I just feel like now it's

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like far from home.

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Speaker 2: No way home.

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Speaker 1: And then if this is like him fighting a symbio planet,

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it's like, I don't know if you can go back anymore.

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the time, like it's a refresh, you know, like it

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doesn't say the mind wipe. It's a new Spiderman in

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a sense. But if it's just like, oh, he's right

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back to on a different planet, it's like, I don't

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think we can ever go back, and I don't think

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we're gonna get that movie. I think they'll have Daredevil

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team it with like maybe Elena or Hawkey, but the

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Spiderman boat might be missed and I guess they just

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don't view that way and which sucks. But uh yeah,

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and the trailer is whatever it is. It's a Vanom movie.

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four to five out of ten, and that'll be about it.

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Speaker 2: I think Noel will be in this movie, like at

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least more than the Madam websuits, but I feel like

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he's gonna have like it's all gonna be sequel bait. Stuff.

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Speaker 1: They might say it's the last dance, but I think

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it's gonna be setting up other stuff. And I don't

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like love the nol character or like have the appreciation

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like Kirkland does.

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Speaker 2: But I was with him.

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Speaker 1: I like, man, I really don't want him them to

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do this right now because I just don't trust Sony.

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But it's kind of like, what can you do now, Venom, right,

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you've done carnage, you like, unless he's new Spider Man.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not I'm really hoping this isn't true.

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Speaker 1: But that was the other part of this rhumatory I

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didn't mention, but it just goes with it there that

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this is suppose they're looking at it as like an

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Avengers type of film, and that's where it's like that

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also makes sense too of why that if Diston was

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gonna do Avengers four and that was a massive movie, Well,

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we're gonna make Spiermen for massive, so let's get Destin

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because he's a Spiderman fan, he would do that, and

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it does that would be massive movie is Venom and

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Spiderman fighting the Cymbia God and the planet.

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Speaker 2: But that just does not sound peeling to me at all.

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So he wants to do a Venom.

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Speaker 1: Fine, let that be Venom four, Make Venom four, make

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them go to the Simul planet. Cool, but I don't

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really want one of Tom hart Holand's like Spider Man

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appearances be wasted this way. But again, it's for money,

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so it's like what we talk about Lord of Rings

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last week. Right then it all works out, So Taylor,

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the floor is yours for the last topic of the night.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not I'm not big on the crossover idea

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of having this Venom mingle with Tom Hardy Spider Man.

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That's not Tom Hardy Spider Man, Tom Hollands Spider Man.

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Speaker 3: Tom Holland's Venom. Give you that, now, that would be cool,

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that'd be cool.

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Speaker 4: I pictured like more Spider Man three though, with fucking

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Eric Foreman.

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Speaker 5: Dancing.

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Speaker 6: I just I wish that they would keep them separate.

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I think that, you know, Sony is really trying to

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push push, push, and it's just like, no, no, no,

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we don't need that.

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Speaker 2: So I think what if it's not. What if he's like, yeah,

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that sounds great. We can make a lot of money.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't think you should have Sony right

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it then I think you should have.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't not ask not Sperman four. It would probably

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be like a combo. I think they would be because

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the writers for spider Man four is the writers from

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the original trilogy here.

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Speaker 2: So okay, then yeah, I like that a lot.

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Nall is going to be the rumor being Nall is

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the villain in this new Venom movie. Obviously he's not

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going to be defeated. They're just sitting the stage and

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sound right. Yeah, okay, yeah, so that would be I mean,

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it'd be interesting. I don't know anything about Nall. He

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 6: I don't like the CGI from the Venom movies, though,

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of mesh those two together. I feel like Sony just

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kind of Now Marvel obviously does do a lot of CGI,

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Venom their Marvel Verse movies. It feels like it has

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its own aesthetic to it, and I don't like it.

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it cgi at least with Marvel, there's that's a nice

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kind of better visualization, Like it feels better on my eyes,

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and I'm looking at it like it's it tricks my

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brain a little bit more, and I can respect that

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and take it. When I look at the purple the

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red colors of Morbius and uh and fucking Damon Targarian there,

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I'm excited for this, this new movie though, believe it

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or not, and this will probably be the first Venom movie.

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I joined you guys for with for reviews because I

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wasn't there for the other two. So I'll be there

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for the non spoilers review.

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Speaker 5: Was Karna is just a Kirkland Travis review?

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Speaker 2: Little Two Men was Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do we see it together?

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think no.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I saw it with Gwen. That was like her first

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live action Marvel movie. Unfortunately, but tayloran that's cruel.

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Speaker 2: She wanted to go, she wanted to go, she chose it.

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Toy said, you'll be there for the non spoilers review.

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So when we switch away Spoilser's gonna bounce out.

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Speaker 3: Made plans that even he's like, I got fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 1: My thoughts, and then that of here. Yeah, no, that'll

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be in October. It's kind of weird, like I don't

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think about that way. But we got Joker in Venom

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in October. Like that's two big movies, but I just

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Speaker 5: About it because the bigger box office.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll just say Joker, but you never know.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jo, that is it. I don't think we'll be

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back next week. You never know what could break. But

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in speaking of that, we will be back in two weeks.

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We'll do a Joker of Prediction. We'll hopefully finally do

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the BS meter. I do have draft updates as well,

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So we have some stuff that's been lingering, but just

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stuff keeps happening and we just keep going on tangents too.

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So thank everybody that was in the chat that let

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saending the Patreon questions. We very much appreciate that and

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thank you for listening. We hope you have a good

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Speaker 2: Next,