Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka colored.
Speaker 2: A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in
Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram.
Speaker 3: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks
for telling a friend, let me get him in the frame,
because I thought of him last night watching the next game,
and I see they're doing celebrity roundabouts and they don't
talk about this guy, but I see him there sunglasses
on court side, under the basket.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, everybody.
Speaker 2: Who's your quarterback of the New York Giants.
Speaker 4: Anybody who's anybody ever buddy at the Knicks game last
night like a fox, John McEnroe.
Speaker 1: Then they win.
Speaker 2: No, they suck. They don't suck. I mean they were.
Speaker 3: I watched it there.
Speaker 1: I watched GEAM one and they were leading like three
minutes the last I fell asleep.
Speaker 2: I woke up to the postgame and it was I
was so bummed out. But it's the Eastern Conference Finals.
The next is the championship.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 2: I feel like they've overachieved a little bit, but I
don't know I don't know. The soldier is here as well,
the newly single soldier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah you say who, No, I'm not. I
shouldn't say.
Speaker 4: I just said, just to say till until it sets him.
Speaker 1: That's yeah. I guess that's a good point. Yeah, I've
been too busy to even you know, to think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, last time they get a picture of Mark
like sitting on some porch, it's got a stogy in
his mouth, and I wrote back, you're living your best life.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My brother lives right on the water, and so
we were over there in his porch, drinking and smoking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, having just a good old time. Yeah, it's right
being the single guy.
Speaker 1: Uh is this like? Now?
Speaker 2: Sometimes these these single things, they're temporary, they're little breaks, misunderstandings.
People need to clear their head the type thing.
Speaker 1: Or is it? Is it? It's it's over, it's over.
There's too much, too much happened. Yeah, and you know,
I mean I'm taking I'm taking the ship on this,
which I don't which I will. Yeah, you know what
I mean? What does that? What does that mean with it?
Speaker 2: But generically taking the ship on this meaning that it's
your fault, it's my fault on the scumbag.
Speaker 1: You know, she's posting memes on Facebook and my friends
are like putting hearts on it, and my friends, I'm like,
what the fuck you know? But I don't why. There's
no sense that's right?
Speaker 2: What we know?
Speaker 4: Mark, you know what you're getting good to Marriam, of
course you know what. We support you anyway.
Speaker 2: What the memes like? Can you give us an example
of one? Or do you not want to? I want to.
I don't want to take Well, here's what Mark will do.
Mark will be in the moment with us.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: I'll say these things because it's just I'm curious. And
then Markle called, hey, man, can you edit that out?
Because I don't want to. I don't want to piss
you all.
Speaker 1: No, you're not pissing me off. It means about trust
and ship like okay, so but what are you messing
around with?
Speaker 4: No offense?
Speaker 1: Is there a bigger insult in comment? Or are you
messing around those fucking you dude?
Speaker 4: You're not like that though, No, you're not like that.
Speaker 1: I mean this, there's this is my fault. I mean
it was both. You know it was both. It was
you know, two rounds. Don't make it right. Let's just
put it that way, not make it right just because
you know, you can't say which was said is You
can't say that yours is worse than mine, what what
you did versus what they know? No one, you know
you can say that. But if you didn't do it,
you wouldn't. You wouldn't. I don't know how to say this, but.
Speaker 2: Without saying exactly what it is, it sounds like it's
a it's a trust.
Speaker 1: Thing, thing, you know, and we've been they got it
for two years. So it's like, you know, and maybe
and I've given reasons not to trust, you know. I mean,
that's just you know, but that's who I am and
always have been, you know what I mean. It's like
I'm not any different than I was two three years ago.
Speaker 4: This is what you get. This is what I've always been.
This has always been my baseline. So you should be surprised.
Is that the Mark? Is that what I'm hearing? I'm sorry?
Is that what it sounds like I'm hearing?
Speaker 2: Mark?
Speaker 1: She was? She was. She's an awesome woman, and I
love the time we spent together and I don't regret anything,
and I wish her the best. You know. I mean
three years, yeah, two, well two.
Speaker 4: Cumulative speaking to you.
Speaker 1: Know, two years, two years.
Speaker 2: But you know, with a little break.
Speaker 1: No one we we did we started dating, was there's
breaks in that, and then we went two years together,
you know. But I'm not going to say anything bad.
I mean, there's nothing to say bad. It's hard to
say bad. But you know, I'm also you know, I'm
also not talking. I mean, it's the first thing I've
actually talked about. I'm not posting shit on Facebook. I'm
not doing anything. I haven't even discussed it with anybody.
You know, I've been going. But you know, and I
feel that on the other side that's being discussed and
I'm coming out as a freaking scumbag asshole.
Speaker 2: I think that the one thing that in any kind
of breakup, my whole thing has been, it's it's over.
You need to clean by that. By a clean break,
I mean just one where there is no contact. Uh.
Some people tell you now right, because we have the
Internet and there's things we may be new inherently but
never acted upon. But like a thirty day break, some
people say, block that person in your phone. I've heard
people go, well, that's really childish. But the other part is, well, no,
it's not because it prevents the all of a sudden,
I'm a little buzzed and I'm mad at you, and
I'm gonna call you up.
Speaker 1: It's a quarter after one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a little drunken. I need you now, or
I'm gonna pitch at you now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean exactly. And I think
those things are good.
Speaker 4: I say it. I wouldn't call but I've had for
Jack Danielsanna, But.
Speaker 2: I think taken the high road and by the high
road of saying nothing, saying nothing. Look, man, I have
lived through it. I have lived through a social media
onslaught of things. I have had people call friends of
mine and say things you and Billy did well, other stuff,
and so.
Speaker 1: I didn't do.
Speaker 2: But the only thing I would do is never address it,
because all you do is inflame that. And I think
sometimes there's the other person. I think, by doing these
things want they want you to react. They're looking for
a reaction, and when they don't react, it's you know,
it's a child, it's a little bits, it's a it's
a learned behavior that we don't we just don't need.
And I always go I have done that, like I've
come to it. But even like in radio stuff, I
think the one time that I was really like got
really really like frustrated was there were these guys Kramer
and Twitch. They were put together and they were on
the West Coast, which and Uh they worked for a company.
I worked for a CBS company. They worked for what
is now well it was transitioned into iHeart. But they
were out on the West Coast and Eric Anderson was
e man was the boss over there.
Speaker 1: And then after the after the nerve, No.
Speaker 2: This is during the nerve. So they put these guys
on and they had moved me to do four to
nine and told me after six I could do whatever
I wanted. Now I had had my first kid, and
I guess I wore a sweater vest or something like that.
So Eric used to take pictures of me, like from
the Internet and things because it was early internet, and
send it to these guys and send me all this
and send them all these nasty things to say about me.
So they called me once uh in the studio and
I was on the studio phone. They got through like
the front desk, and I said, I'm not doing this.
You do not have my permission to air me unless
you call me at this number where I can tape
you as well. Right, So, only because I knew what
they were gonna do. They were going to manipulate anything
I said. So these guys call and they tried doing
their shit, and I, I don't know, they looked terrible
to me.
Speaker 1: I shot back and said things.
Speaker 2: But these guys were like coming at me, coming at me,
coming at me, saying all these nasty things. They would
have people call, they would do all this shit. Never
really worked, but they were trying to get under my
skin and eventually did. And I was going to the
West Coast for a vacation and I was like trying
to figure out where these guys were because I was
going to go confront them.
Speaker 1: Oh that was awesome, right, I was going to.
Speaker 2: Go confront them because they were saying shit about my kids,
my my new baby.
Speaker 1: It sounds a tower, It sounds like the old Towers Star.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was, but it was Creamer.
Speaker 1: Jackson already had tattoos, and I was like, it's so
funny if it has tattoos. I forgot that is covered.
Speaker 2: At tattoos, Uh, not covered. But he's got a lot
of the Uhdragon. And then and after that, I was like,
oh my god, I gave away all my power. I
gave away all my power by saying nothing and just
continuing to be me is the most powerful thing you
can do, right, you know, And the only thing I'll
tell you what sucks more than anything for other people.
Nothing sucks like success when you go and you are
successful and you continue on. Those guys got fired. They
told people to open doors in San Francisco, open your
car doors when you see bicyclists coming down the street,
so they would drive into their car doors, and they
got fired.
Speaker 4: There's a huge cycling lobby in California. Nobody knew about it.
Speaker 2: And I don't even think these two dudes were in
the same city. I think one was in Dallas, one
was in San Diego. And they were put together. You know,
radio was trying to save more. Yeah, exactly, and would
you do no problem?
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, we'll put two guys in. This is such
a radio idea. Two guys who've never met in two
different cities will put together. Hey, we'll syndicate you. Yeah,
these rock stations where you play most of the music,
because what could go wrong? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 4: That's that's iHeart.
Speaker 2: Look, I just tell you that the that's radio in general.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't like,
but I think that, uh, you're better off just just
doing it and even in your relationship say nothing. Eventually
people see clear you were mad at me over an
old relationship. No, no, no, no, I'm just saying like, but
but once you, I never said anything. I never reacted.
I never said ship to you.
Speaker 1: Actually, I think during it we ended up doing shots
and drinking and thirsty.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I just said to you, I never had
a problem.
Speaker 1: With you, and I never did.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even mad that you were upset and you
were sort of friends with this other person. But I
and then you said to me, well blah blah blah,
and would yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: I remember one time, Remember Jeremy Shockey, big mouth, tight
end for the giants of the miamiy Hurricanes. So he
getting interviewed and he keeps, like the report keeps batting
their eyes, so he keeps talking and talking, so they
get the Bill Parcells we never played for. He called
Bill park Cells a quote, Homo, that's what he called them.
It was the homu, right, that's what he said. And
so they got to Parcels and asked Parcels about it.
Parcels goes, yeah, I don't know what that was all about.
And they go, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was all about? That was
it just left it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like and all of a sudden, all the
bullets are out of the gun. There's nothing else.
Speaker 1: Anybody.
Speaker 4: Let's not escalat because I'm bored about coaching a football team.
Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest thing is like all that stuff
in life. And boy, I think I didn't expect to
talk about this, but I think that sometimes we never
grow up, and in social media we get to spill
our drama.
Speaker 4: Say all the stuff that we can't say way back
when we got hurt, way back when, right if that
ever happened again next time.
Speaker 2: But I can tell you how I'm feeling and all that,
And I think in some ways it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: It's nice. It's good.
Speaker 2: It could be really really hurting and you need someone
to call you and you're right on the brink of
maybe like just going I can't handle this life anymore.
Speaker 4: Good, Somebody talk to me. Keep it short, that's okay.
Speaker 3: But the I don't want.
Speaker 2: To talk about it that I ha I do too,
the drama and the mean thing which is passive aggressive. Right.
Speaker 1: I have a meme that I that I found and
I was going to put it on instead of it's
just sitting in my photos and I'll say one thing
and then we'll move on from this. She is, She's
a big part of why I'm at where I'm at now. Yes, yes, huge, poser, huge,
She's the one to encourage me, you happier. Yes, yes,
So I'm not going to go back to the way
it was before her. I'm going to go forward being this,
being like this, yes, because but she encouraged me and
everything she did, everything she did for me.
Speaker 4: I think she was good for you.
Speaker 1: She was good for me.
Speaker 4: But you know, she made you a better person, help
help you become a better person and make somebody about you.
Don't make somebody a better person.
Speaker 2: To say, yeah, that's what it should be.
Speaker 1: Yeah she made me. Yeah, I don't, you know. I
mean she you know, she helped me get you know,
she helped me get you know, get my car and
stuff like that. You know, she's a big part of
the success that's happening now, which sucks because she can't
you know, she's not gonna be part of it now.
But you know she is the mean, she is a huge,
huge reason that I'm I'm, you know, doing what I'm doing. Now.
Speaker 2: Let's say, let me give you, like just a scenario,
just a thing six months from now. Yeah, you wind
up in the same space, not on purpose, but by accident.
Maybe it's a it's a restaurant bar, you've had a
couple of drinks, you see her, You go over and
start talking. The conversation actually goes very smoothly. You end
up laughing and stuff. Do you think that there would be.
Speaker 1: I don't think she'll ever trust me, Okay, okay, So
so if you don't have trust, you don't have anything.
Speaker 2: I agree, you know, I agree, And so I mean,
but that's all fear stuff too. Yeah, I mean, you know,
I'm not afraid you're going to X y Z.
Speaker 1: I gave you know, I definitely gave reasons, you know,
to not to trust me.
Speaker 2: But I would love to know what that would be.
Speaker 1: I can't say. I'm not gonna say. I know, I
know I've probably said too much anyways, But but you know,
there's no there's no you know, Oh, I can't I
hate her stuff like that because I don't. I mean
when I stopped when I walked into you know, to
work yesterday, you know that's that's you know, that was
her encouragement and and telling me.
Speaker 2: To Were you afraid to go for the job that
you have?
Speaker 1: Yes, because I was in I was in another job
where I was in another job and I was working
that job, and then I was doing in the middle
of it. I was working, I was working in transportation.
Then I was working in the cafeteria. So a job,
my my job came up and I was like, all right,
I'm gonna apply for it, and she's like, apply for
it to see what happens. Well, I get hired. I
wasn't sure I was gonna take the job because I
was going to lose for you know that four hours
to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: She goes, well, she will take care of it. She goes,
we'll go with it. She was take the job, try
it and see what, you know, see where it goes.
Speaker 2: And it's been amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm going you know, I'll be going into my neck neck.
I've already set to start. You know to go into September.
You know, after two lines, I'm going, so you know,
I'm I mean that that's huge. I mean I probably wouldn't.
I probably would still be in a liquor store with
guns being in my face.
Speaker 2: Right. It would be interesting if you ever saw her,
let's say, six months from now, and just said to her, listen,
I I I'm not sure you even want to hear
from me, but I need to tell you my life
is better because you were she you were in it for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she knows, she knows it. I would tell her
that all the time.
Speaker 2: I tell her that the balls thing for because a
lot of guys won't. You don't want to admit that,
or you know, but I do think, like you know,
the old saying was behind every great man is a
it's a strong woman or a great woman or I
ever forget what the saying was, but it was something
similar to that, and it is something like that. Why
don't we take a break because this is leading me
to everybody thinks that only fans is about steamy pictures
and spicy clips. Yeah, but it but it turns out
it's more like a group therapy with a subscription fee
for some guys and they just did this study. Uh
it's an emotional thirst, not so much the thirst trap
of pictures, but an emotional thirst that guys are looking
for someone to just kind of ask, how's your day?
And it's there's one guy that has dropped nearly six
million dollars just to chat with a woman. And I'll,
I know, I know it sounds that way, but America,
I think this is true. I'm not saying that there
are other things that go on, but I also think,
like if you're paying for the one on one session,
I think men like the company of a woman, the femininity,
the support, the advice, the way they look at a
problem and solve it and make you sort of see
your neanderthalish ways. I don't know, we'll get to it
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the man never.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got you gotta worried. One is the triple
crown he's won. He won like three awards, three different categories.
So they have band, they have three different bands. Go
on and they're playing the song. All of a sudden,
he's sitting in the front. He teach his retiring who's
on steage and just freaking please this. You know, I'm
like cool. He amazes me every time I see him.
The guitar he is.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I've heard people who love country music and love rockety
to say he's the greatest performer they've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Really, I put him up with Springsteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I okay, so I've seen you know me,
I'm a nineties kid. I love nineties bands. Yeah, but
Springsteen's like the greatest performance I've ever seen. Yeah, and
I've heard this guy is right up there with Springs. Yeah,
I've never seen Keithurper.
Speaker 1: Because if you listen him play the BUCkies, that's like,
to me, what's that?
Speaker 2: BUCkies?
Speaker 3: Is this?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: It's like as no, it's like a seven to eleven
on steroids.
Speaker 1: Basically you go on the seven eleven.
Speaker 2: Yes, but it was a guy started it in Texas
and they were building one outside of where Jack Jamison
and lived in Alabama, in Athens, Alabama, so it's sort
of on the way to Huntsville, and it was tons
of gas pumps. Huge. You go in there and you
can get rotisserie, chickens, you can get food. They at
brisket every day. It's all these cute and they've become
like a destination for people. Well, when they open this
Keith Urban, because it's an hour outside of Nashville, came
and played BUCkies and they had like three thousand, I
don't know thousands of people the thirteenth I don't know
what the number was, but it was fucking huge, and
you know, so many people they couldn't even I don't
think you could even see him necessarily, but they set
up and he did it, and I think it was
a free show.
Speaker 4: He's kind of picked up the mantle from Garth Brooks.
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, on New Year's Eve, I went to Nashville.
Keith Urban plays a free concert right in like their
park or whatever it is, their version of Central Park.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got I pee for VIP because I know it's
gonna be cold, and I wanted to, you know, be
able to have an inside and we had our own
area to watch him. There had to be fifteen twenty
thousand people watching a free show, no shit, yep, twenty nineteen,
counting in twenty twenty. Yeah, well we didn't know that
night what twenty twenty was gonna be. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm like, give me the fuck out of twenty nineteen.
You know that was a bad, bad year, and all
of a sudden, I'm just saying, oh yeah, two thousand.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that New Year's Eve distinctly?
Speaker 2: You do? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen to the twenty two hours with Beth with
with a couple of friends, and I got my buddy
who's a guitar player in another band, Karma Sean. He
doesn't sing, but I got him to sing Country Roads
by John Denver karaoke at this place. Right, So we're
having a good time and bethlecks me, this is gonna
be the best year ever.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was I made a lot of money.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was I'll tell you what, man, we didn't
get sick of each other, that's O the game.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was.
Speaker 4: I mean I know that we maybe woods stuck lack glue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's that's sort of it. Well,
speaking of that stuck like glue, Mark just said that
his current relationship has ended, but it has made his
life better.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, he's already got he's already got his calendar
lined up.
Speaker 2: So, but a new report from super Creator, I don't
know what Supercreator exactly is, but it reveals that seventy
eight percent of conversations between top paying men and only
fans creators aren't sexual. They're not sexual p seventy eight.
You know what, you know what?
Speaker 1: I believe that, dude, I think you do.
Speaker 4: I think we only hear about the sexual stuff. But
I would be honest with you. Most people, I don't
even care who you are, are sharp enough to understand
that with that camera, and with that cloud, anything can
get out, anything could get out. Most people aren't taking
their clothes off. We just hear about it. No, I
think everybody else has a talent that they want to
share with somebody. Their sex stuff they're is but like
seventy eight No, the point is, like I think twenty
two percent, which is sexual, is kind of high. We
look at the whole thing is sexual.
Speaker 2: It's not, well, not all of it is. But what
I'm talking about is, let's go with the ones that
are only fans showing off tits and ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: But I guess most of these people are chatting about pets, work,
hobby stress is ya sooahem Sophie Sophie Rain is a
top creator with seven million Instagram followers, has a fan
named Charlie. He's a married man who spent six million
dollars over two years mainly just chatting, mainly not saying
that there isn't other things, but majority of it is chatting.
Another creator, Babby Pompolonis, Sabby, Yeah, you know, Babby No
charges thirty thousand dollars to be a digital wife, doing
things like watching football and listening uh to vent sessions. Basically,
these men are paying someone to ask how is your debaby?
That's what they're doing. And it's a weird thing. And
it was funny to hear Mark just go this person
made my life better. And I wonder at some point
you when you miss somebody in a relationship ends, sometimes.
Speaker 1: It's not the sex that you miss. Noah, I mean,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like I could really talk to that person about this,
whatever the encouragement, you know, the let's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: That's the idea. Yeah, sex is supposed to be just.
But here's the thing about the equation.
Speaker 2: But well, here's what I wonder, honestly, is this a
digital band aid for mass loneliness?
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm never going to be lonely. You're never gonna
be never A'm you sure about that? Never I went
before before we were together. I I like, I like
coming home from work, you know, watching you know, the tube,
going to bad and I like working you know, the
weekends at you know, the evering and stuff like that.
So I don't have to worry now about somebody's feelings
getting hurt.
Speaker 4: Not Yeah, yeah, but I mean I think sometimes you
get so accustomed to doing things your own way, you
don't realize how lowly you truly are. Like I remember
when I was going between marriages, okay, which was about
a seven year period actually, between between my ex wife
and Beth. Really, so I talked about five year period.
Really where five o'clock Friday, I'm like, okay, what do
I do?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 4: My brother is married, he has a family, he's got
his own thing. My sister's married, she's got a family.
My friends are all gone, they're all married off. Well,
Bill Morand doesn't talk to me anymore. I got to Bud, Well,
I'm just joking. I got no I'm like, I'm like,
what do I do with myself?
Speaker 1: I don't It's an interesting thing, But I'll go watch
I'll get KFC and what family go? I did it?
Only two texts yesterday from Bill and my brother. That's all. Yeah,
only two texts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was weird. Yeah, but last night I got out
on the job and I went down with my brother
and you know, Bourbon, and it was you know, I
find things to do.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: The thing is that what they're.
Speaker 2: Finding is the key to longevity is human connectiveness. Yes,
and as we get more and more digital, I think
you have to work harder and harder to take it
to reality. And I think that sometimes if you're feeling
lonely and you go on social media and you see
everybody putting up their best selves, their best moment.
Speaker 1: Anybody that does that most of the time, Yeah, anybody
that puts on a thing, Oh I love this person's great,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: No they're miserable, yes, I I well, I've always said
that it's over compensation, especially when a guy goes, it's
my beautiful, most amazing wife's birthday to day. If you
see this raging beauty in her asses the size of
a fucking picture window and probably nothing. I'm just saying, like,
but it's almost like over compensation. Sometimes it makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: Told me a story about her ex husband once she
goes it's like like every once in a while, like
people have the these like themes that go on these
trends on social media where repost if you have the.
Speaker 1: Greatest husband in the world to say something about them,
And she.
Speaker 4: Posted about her ex husband, who was, according to her
these aren't my words, was the biggest douchebag. I'm glad
I have one of the good ones. She goes. I
should have known, like why did I post that he
was a douchebag? It was over compensation. It was trying
to like let everybody know everything's okay, which it wasn't.
It was a red flag.
Speaker 1: It is I think it's a red flag.
Speaker 2: But the thing that I keep seeing with this stuff
is like it's almost like marriage is sort of outsourced,
but you hit on something. And I experienced that. I
would sometimes, like on a Friday night when I was
first separately, like that first year, sometimes I would hang
out with somebody early afternoon, but then by five o'clock
then what everything was quiet? So I would go down
to like Thirsty's and I would go there. And I
did that a few times, and I had something happened
there that I.
Speaker 4: Was like the Sharks and the Jets had a little showdown.
Speaker 2: Uh No, I've talked about it. I had, I had
somebody not this again. It might have been during during
COVID actually, because it was COVID, because I remember there
where they put partitions in the bar.
Speaker 4: Had to be the worst time to be single.
Speaker 2: No was It was actually pretty good for me because
I wasn't home alone. I still went to work every
day I left the I went every day when every
day I and then I had a friend who owned
an establishment when everything shut down, so we would go
in there under the guise of fixing the yeah and
fixing the floors and doing that, and I would get
shu faced.
Speaker 4: Hey, it's just is this fort tile is this floor
tile match?
Speaker 2: And then uh yeah, so it was I'd have to
get ride home and whatever. But but prior to that,
not even there, I think something happened where some guy
came up to me and goes, hey, something like I'm
talking to.
Speaker 1: His wife or whatever, and I'm like, I remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just remember being like, I go, you
know what I'm not and I don't want that reputation
and what am I doing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: It's funny. Human connection is so important that we always love.
Like with George Went just dying recently, you talk about
cheers and right norm and you saw that connection. And
but I go, God, I watch people and everybody in
the bar they were like sort of friends and stuff
and they hung out. But some of the ones that
they look grizzled, and I go, I don't want to
I don't want to be the bar guy. I don't
want to be the bar. I like going into a bar,
I like drinking, but I don't want that to be
my every Friday night. I'm with you on something that
was almost depressing about it to me, and yet at
the same time, I'm sitting home alone was depressing and
then I had to stop and go, yeah, but this
is okay.
Speaker 1: See See, sitting home alone to me is awesome. It
is nice, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, but that. But at the same time,
having someone to talk to, just sit on the couch with,
have a glass and wine and talk to And I
do wonder, like the digital girlfriend economy is it gonna go?
I mean, marriage isn't dead.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just.
Speaker 2: Outsourced for some of this stuff.
Speaker 4: You ever heard the thought of you ever heard the
idea of predictive programming, where like the movies and TV
shows are actually like telling you what's going to happen when. Okay,
So remember that movie with Joaquin Phoenix and Scarlet Johansson.
Speaker 1: She wasn't in the movie, but her voice. The movie
is called Her And.
Speaker 4: It's about a digital operating system that doubles as your
girlfriend and this guy became attached to it. That's where
we're headed and like Zuckerberg now says, you don't need
real friends anymore. I'm gonna give you AI friends, right,
and that's what you're gonna have.
Speaker 1: That's actually a movie on Netflix right now. Is a guy,
it's a girl. You find out that she's a I
and then she ends up getting human feelings. Oh, I mean, but.
Speaker 4: That's not a rep I mean, that's not a replacement.
I remember when my wife went on vacation in January
and she was gone for a week. Most guys were like, yeah, freedom,
I was miserable.
Speaker 2: I missed my wife. I missed my wife after a
couple of days. Miss you just missed the routine without Yeah,
yeah right.
Speaker 1: It's uh, but you go.
Speaker 2: Wi are married men spending millions of dollars.
Speaker 4: Just to talk to somebody because they're not getting that
conversation at home?
Speaker 1: Why is that? Because maybe they don't like each other.
Speaker 4: They married the wrong person too, they outgrew each other, which,
by the way, like once you marry somebody, hey, you're well,
let's put it this way. The idea is you're supposed
to understand that they're going to change, and you got
to be able to roll with those punches and it's
easier said than done. I get that, but it happens, uh,
you know, so that could be part that that's part
of it too, or like you know. Also, I think
the food we eat contributes to our mind going certain directions,
and sometimes it goes in directions that we can't fix,
and somebody else is there to fix that match that.
I don't know. I don't think those are any excuses,
but I think those are reasons why people do that.
Speaker 2: What were you gonna say? Because I saw you start
to say something, I totally forget, all right, don't know,
but because I'll ask this because I go, you know,
forget our mind's turn into a chemical mess. Well, forget porn.
But men are paying to be feel seen and heard,
which is kind of funny, right, I Men want respect,
women want love.
Speaker 1: When does this?
Speaker 2: What does it say about masculinity? Isolation? The lack of
emotional outlets for men in a hyperconnected yet emotionally sterile world.
And that's sort of what you see.
Speaker 4: Well, because we've been we'll go ahead, markets right, I
think it's.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I drove to Nashville by myself. Yeah,
because if I want to go right, I want to
go right. I don't want to go left, you know
what I mean? Yeah, I drove to Keith Urban Can
by myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like doing things by my self because I want
to be able to do what I want to do. Well.
Speaker 4: We had a friend Tommy Mulay used to do that.
Tommy will go to China by himself, Argentina by himself.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: Get he gets a telegram at the hotel. Could do
is from America? Kano is back hero. I like doing
stuff by myself. But then he got married. Man. Then
he realized, you know what, I am better off with somebody.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, but it didn't work for me.
Speaker 2: So but he yes, right, But you have to like
being alone and it's it's a weird thing. But you
should almost take yourself on dates. You know who talked
about that a lot. We got to get her back
on Stephanie I. Stephanie used to travel by herself, go
to Concert herself, to go out and eat at a
like a nice restaurant, but eat at the bar and
strike up a conversation with people around her.
Speaker 4: And there is something that turned to bed from Yellowstone.
Speaker 1: There's it's.
Speaker 2: Mac girl, that woman, it's fear based that we go, Oh,
I can't do that. I can't do Why can't you?
Speaker 4: Why can't you?
Speaker 1: Why can't you have to do things?
Speaker 4: My friend Bill Moran used to tell me, Danny, you
gotta do every once in a while, you gotta do
something that scares you.
Speaker 1: Yes, as you go upstairs and threaten to quit.
Speaker 2: Did I say that's you?
Speaker 1: I tell you, that's so many words.
Speaker 4: And I was about to go upstairs and I couldn't
do it, and I started balling, and Kano was right there.
Speaker 1: He was bro.
Speaker 4: Kano went upstairs. It goes bro the kids at his
wits end. Man, He told JT could help him out,
because I was just at my WIT's end at that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know I was dealing with, like the
psychological trauma that I was dealing with at the time.
Speaker 1: I had no idea the uh, but you're right, you
gotta do something.
Speaker 4: That scares you every once in a while. You'll grow
from those moments.
Speaker 2: I think that in the field alive. And when I
say scares you, I don't mean destructive, right, I don't
mean really scared.
Speaker 1: To do this a ball, but I'm gonna do it.
I'm really scared to shoot up Harold.
Speaker 2: But I hear that. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying, like,
take a chance. Yeah, take a chance, Like if it
scares you and it's not going to hurt you.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, if you got an opportunity to to speak
in front of a crowd that could bring you new
clients or whatever, do it. If you've got an opportunity
to do something different and it could benefit you if
it works out, do it. Don't be afraid. But at
the same time, wow, people may laugh at you. You
could fail, you could fall on your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what Yeah, I mean, I know said the dud.
Speaker 4: But man, once you do it, man, you feel great.
Speaker 1: Yes, you feel alive.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've had three different lives. I you know, I'm starting.
I started in radio, was my first real job. Then
I went to TV, and then all of a sudden,
when that ended, I went, you know what did I
do after that?
Speaker 4: I went into the bar business, right.
Speaker 1: The bar business. Yeah, I went and opened the bar.
That's kind of shooting Heroin though, to be honest. Then
after that I started, I went into what I'm doing now.
It's like three totally different things.
Speaker 4: Which is like going on a cocaine. But you know,
you get the point. I'm just joking. I was just
gonna say working with kids, I'm joking with my wife
deals with kids, you don't don't even joke.
Speaker 2: I will say that as much as I have picked
on that company we used to work for together, which one,
Oh that one, that one together? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh, that was the best show. That was the best
morning show. Really think show. Yeah, I really think so too.
Speaker 2: It was, but it really was. I will say that
they did it right. They're still standing. Yes, they're still there,
they're still holding on and uh it was and and
winning significantly because because of one person. Maybe, No, I
don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't say that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If he was to leave that show,
the show would would.
Speaker 4: I think that, But I think they would adapt. The
host is a very smart guy.
Speaker 1: He is, but he's annoying, all right. Well, I don't
want to get that. Didn't mean to get into that
talk about it. I think they have the best Morning America.
I always not him.
Speaker 2: I always pushed against the management a bit, but maybe
the man they knew something I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: I love to admit that I love the guy too.
Speaker 1: By the way, I just talked about he's a friend.
Speaker 4: But he is he a friend?
Speaker 1: He came more in my house for a party.
Speaker 4: One Oh wow, okay, all right, he's a friend. Uh
but I know I wasn't invited.
Speaker 1: We will take it.
Speaker 4: I really wasn't. No, seriously, you had a party at
your house. I had no idea.
Speaker 1: Was this is like twenty years ago?
Speaker 4: Okay no, but all seriousness to like, this is why
I love you, Mark, because you have this richness. You've
experienced life, You're not afraid like I wrote a column
in the Times Way County about Norm, not George went
about Norm. Yeah, and I said, Norm is the guy
that nobody wants to be like you talked about earlier,
but the guy that everybody wants to be remembered. Recognized
why because he left Cheers better than he found it. Right,
Everybody loved to see Norm. He wasn't always trying to
be the center of attention, but man, he had those
one liners that made everybody crack up. But he made
fun of Cliffy when he remind Sammy at the very
end of Cheers. He reminded, Sammy, you always come back
to your first love. You'll never You'll always be loyal
to hurt.
Speaker 1: He what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: Think about it, Sam, and he walks out. That's the
idea of connection, loyalty, love. And You've been that guy who,
no matter what happened, you always get back up and
do something else.
Speaker 2: You wipe off your face or some glaze on it. No,
I mean no, seriously, you always.
Speaker 3: You always what the fuck's on my face?
Speaker 4: No matter what happens, no matter how many times people
make fun of you, no matter what, you always get
up and try again. You don't care, true, you always
get up, Mark, And I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but you know, look at that.
Speaker 4: Better start an only fans account with billified. We're gonna
help people that talk him up. Whether I believe it
or not.
Speaker 1: I changed my appointment, So I'm going to brunch.
Speaker 2: We'll take it really all right, Well, take a moment.
I'd like to talk about the salary cap, which one Well,
I'd like to break down what it means and put
it in plain English, and we'll use a buffalo Bill's
scenario that is happening to uh to kind of get
to that. We'll get to that right after this bTB
wood Fire Pizza.
Speaker 1: And grill, speaking a brunch, speaking of brunt Man, I'm
mark that place is just I mean, that's the only
that that's the place in Greece. Yeah, I mean it
really is. Yes, there's no other place better than that
in Greece.
Speaker 2: The food is phenomenal. I saw I's like a museum
of food.
Speaker 1: I'm not joking, it really is.
Speaker 2: Here's what I gotta say this, And I felt a
little bad, but I gotta an email, and you can
always email the show. You can email it to me
Bill at Bill Moran Productions dot com. But I get
one from a guy who goes, Hey, I took family
out to bTB, it's the best, and they said bar food.
Well I didn't read bar food. I just saw best
and I knew I was going to see Matt and
I showed Matt, so I hadn't read the whole thing.
To me, I hope the bar food thing isn't insulting
because it's not bar food.
Speaker 1: Well it is not bar but that's the first that
might be the first thing somebody thinks of, you know
what they call it because it is it is a
big there, it is.
Speaker 2: A it's a restaurant. It is with a bar it's
a The food is second to none, and god, you
will leave there with a doggie bag because it's so
big and it's and.
Speaker 1: It's very affordable. When eats, the whole thing is Kevin. Yeah.
I I don't do bad, That's true. You do finish badly.
Speaker 2: Actually, they made a personal pizza for a pizza that
I think is going to be on the menu in
the fall, and it's like a macaroni pizza. And I
get a message from Connie. Matt said to you liked it.
I was afraid you weren't gonna like it. And I
didn't see it till today, and I shot back, the
food is always I've not had a bad thing. I
never had anything there that I've gone that could.
Speaker 1: Have been better. She's she is amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, she is that whole place, the whole
way they run it. And I think Matt does a
great job. But bt B, speaking of brunch, you know,
get out we have to do we do have to
do a brunch.
Speaker 1: We got to do a brunch. Yeah, I'm trying to think,
bring Joe and uh and Laura with us.
Speaker 4: Yes, cast a brunch cast.
Speaker 2: Brunch cast would be fun.
Speaker 4: That would do a monthly Brunch Cast from b TV.
I got to swing it after church. Yeah, I mean,
not a bad idea.
Speaker 1: I'll go to church with you.
Speaker 4: You should, you all should, everyone listening should.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: By the way, there's room for you.
Speaker 1: They're adding seats.
Speaker 2: I like this, the brunch cast. All right, all right, this.
Speaker 1: Brunch yeah, bun. Oh, Matt's gonna love Matt love this.
Speaker 2: Well if we did a brunch But see, here's the
problem that I worry about. I don't want to take
up his space.
Speaker 1: We put we go in that corner.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but people reserve that room.
Speaker 1: Pievle Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: But people, you know, the Brunch Cast would be maybe
once a while and.
Speaker 1: Once a month.
Speaker 4: And won't you look, we pay for it. As long
as you pay for it, you're not taking up space.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true.
Speaker 2: So I just meant, like, when we take a table
and we do a show, we're there for a significant
amount of time. That's a table that they probably could
have turned over once a month.
Speaker 1: We're still er. Yeah, you know, Kevin order twice so
B TB. What fire, Basic Girl?
Speaker 2: And by the way, early August you got the m
eighties and is it Zach Bryan.
Speaker 1: And Zach Brian Band, which actually is is the guy
from Za Zach brown.
Speaker 2: Man, right, But they do a great sho.
Speaker 4: Are they putting them outside in the that'll be huge.
Speaker 1: She did Uh, They've did him. They've done it. This
is the third one, I believe, believe it or not,
I've never been to one. Well, let's go, let's go.
We're gonna make it happen. Uh.
Speaker 2: We will take a moment talk a little salary cap
breaking down for people in planing. Let's get to that
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Speaker 4: Unplucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy, little John hye in here. Oh but you
gotta play that Hinder song. Uh yeah, I want, I want, yeah,
I want you to tell me what sounds like. Okay,
Froja Frozian just played Pitts at Pitts Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're thrown tour.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people, don't mind.
Speaker 4: They're they've got a little pricey. They've priced people out,
even out of the fence.
Speaker 1: I heard about that.
Speaker 4: Eventually everybody sells out.
Speaker 1: When they get older.
Speaker 4: Of course, I love pro Jam, but that he's kind
of schizophrenic.
Speaker 2: Sorry, but Tredamious White is coming back to the Buffalo
Bills a great hornerback when he was playing and not injured.
I think the achilles injury the after that just really
hurt that guy. But he signed a contract worth six
point eight million dollars for one season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if he hits all the vincentives, he's going to
make all the money.
Speaker 2: So then I go, Okay, I don't understand the salary
cap because it's a two point two million salary cap thing.
So I did some research on this because I go,
we hear salary cap and as fans, maybe we don't care,
maybe we do care, But if you're doing fantasy football
those things, it's nice to know, why did my team
not take this best available veteran receiver whatever? Right?
Speaker 1: You know? I watched the FARV documentary last night. Oh
you did? Yeah, he's a dick.
Speaker 4: Well I haven't seen it yeah on Netflix?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did. Two quarterbacks and the Packers be
some of the worst people in the world. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's interesting with the Aaron Rodgers thin because now you
get Danika Patrick sitting down on a What's your Name's
podcast and saying that he was emotionally abusive and it
was really hard when they're I.
Speaker 1: Can see that though, Oh, I can totally see that. Totally.
Speaker 4: He shut out his family. Aaron Rodgers were talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the salary cap.
Speaker 2: So, Danny, you're big football guy, you know this stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I have a solid idea how
the salary cap was.
Speaker 2: So, the salary cap is the maximum amount an NFL
team can spend on a player's salaries in a given year. Yes, right,
it's like a budget limit. Okay, However, teams can get
creative to make it all fit. Yes, so let's take
Tredavious White. Total potential value six point eight million dollars
for one year base salary guaranteed money he earns from
being on the team is one and a half million,
A little over that one point five six.
Speaker 4: Yes, so Susie signed the contract.
Speaker 1: That's what he gets.
Speaker 2: Signing bonus paid up front but spread out for cap
purposes is a million dollars. And I think you get
to go five years into the future potentially to put
that out there. I think then he gets a workout bonus,
meaning if he shows up for all the preseason stuff,
that's an extra one hundred thousand. Other incentives based on
playing time that's unknown, and the cap hit, which counts
against Buffalo's budget this year is just under three million,
two point eight eight million, So if a deal is
six point eight why is the cap hit only two
point eight eight million? And that's the part that's like
you go, you think being a GM, like how many
times people play armchair GM and go you can't get
this guy, can't draft, can't whatever? I go, How the
fuck do you do this?
Speaker 4: They have to So it's a one year contract, right.
Basically what happens is is that they kind of budget
those incentives into the contract. Right if if he hits
all of his numbers, which they never do, then they'll
have to pay him the full amount of money. Right,
that's that's the idea.
Speaker 2: So they have something in there just to your point, yeah,
not likely to be earned n ltbe they don't count
against the cap unless he actually earns them. Yes, so
they can put him the ind as not likely to
be earned incentives like play fifty snaps or make the
Pro Bowl. Those are called not likely to be earned, right,
and they get to control when he's in and out
of a game.
Speaker 1: So it's sort of.
Speaker 4: Like there's a story about Alignment from Jacksonville that missed
one play and he missed out on like a million
dollar bonus. It was sort of a shitty thing in
a way, but the players are at the mercy. It's
kind of like radio, the radio. The players are at
the mercy of the team. See a contract, let's say
a five year contract. Yeah, okay, it's not a five
year contract. If Bill Moran signs with the Buffalo Bills
after his first big contract for five years and one
hundred million dollars and fifty million dollars is guaranteed for
those five years, the only thing that he's going to
get is those fifty million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So that's twenty million dollars over five years. Each year
count against the cap. Right, So that's how they budget
it out. If Bill Moran plays all five years, he's
gonna get all one hundred million dollars. But by year two,
the team's gonna be like, yeah, we need to renegotiate,
whether you like it or not, and here's how we're
going to do it, and you have to play along
with it or they could just cut you. The only
money they're on the hook for is the guaranteed money.
So after your first year, it's just basically a work
agreement for the rest of the contract. They can let
you go, but you can't go anywhere else. And if
you fulfill the years of those deals, you'll make your money,
but they never let you get to it. The exceptions
are quarterbacks, offensive lineman, star receivers until they get hurt,
and cornerbacks like Trey White until they get hurt. The
only money you are guaranteed is the guaranteed money.
Speaker 2: So yeah, because NFL teams will pro rate signing bonuses.
Let's say it's a five year contract. Real, we've spread
it over the five years. But even though you've got
Tredavius White who's on a one year deal, sometimes they
insert what's called void years, so fake years they don't
actually happen, just to spread out the cap hit. Yes,
so if it's a million dollar bonus, they spread it
out over let's say three years, So it's a cap
hit of three hundred and thirty three thousand dollars per year, yes,
for the next three years, and incentives don't always count.
And then you've got the likely to be earned incentives
and those are paid up front.
Speaker 4: But it's like holy shit, So like the cap like
right now is like two hundred and fifty million or
something like that. The bills are probably like writing checks,
around three hundred to four hundred million dollars this year. Okay,
so in other words, but that money on paper gets
accounted into the future like a credit card. Yeah, that's
how That's how the Eagles have always done it. New
Orleans for years got away with that with Drew Brees,
just kicking money down the road. But eventually that bill's
got to be paid. The salary cap on, like what
certain people say is not a myth.
Speaker 2: So but here's the weird part. Let's say they cut
trudeavious weight. He's only guaranteed two point two million dollars. Yes,
they save six hundred and eighty thousand, Yes, against the
cap I think this year if they released them early,
because not all his incentives were.
Speaker 4: Paid out right exactly.
Speaker 2: It's freaking It's so strange, the manipulation. And I guess
you'd do it with your own budget, you know, you
rob Peter to pay Paul and that sort of thing.
But wow, I mean that is a headache. Yeah, like
somebody's got to know exactly where everything is at any moment, thankfully.
I mean, obviously there's computers and things, but I go, boy,
that is.
Speaker 4: Just yeah, that's why, like, if Heaven forbid something happened
to Josh Allen this year he couldn't play again or
something like that, the Bills will be on the hook
for all that if they the Bills have to keep
him under contract for five years to keep to like
narrow out because if they had to release him, all.
Speaker 1: That money is doing the cap right now.
Speaker 4: So that's why, like you can't just release the player,
So you know, that's why they work it out for
years exactly avoidable years of stuff. The NFL salary cap is.
It's hard, but it's not complicated.
Speaker 2: So yes, speaking of Josh Allen, yes, there's been some
I saw a headline that the Bills have a concern
about a thirteen million dollar player and his relationship with
Josh Allen. And and then a sub headline in the
article that I didn't read but only skimmed, was that
Josh is taking on himself that they have I guess
haven't worked together enough. I don't know. Dalton kinkaid thirteen
million dollars the ball I watched the play again against
Kansas City go to the Super Bowl, hits him in
the arm. The outside arm, the furthest away arm, but
it hit him. There certainly a catchuple ball. You've got
to catch those. I don't know how you can. He
was laid out perfectly. The ball seemed to go just
a little bit further than you thought. How Josh even
got it there, I don't know. It's amazing. But are
we worried about that relationship at all?
Speaker 1: Do we need it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: Always the concern in the article, do you remember.
Speaker 1: What the concern is?
Speaker 2: Just basically that Dalton Kincaid is dropping balls and not
making Dalton kinkaid.
Speaker 4: It's so funny how the Bills will unconsciously or subconsciously
lie to the media about things. No, here's what I
mean by that. That's here's what I mean by that.
At the end of the season, the general manager, Brandon Bean,
the guy who is supposedly responsible for buying the groceries
and picking the players, even though we know it's Sean
mcda but the guy who wants the title general manager,
criticized Dalton Kincaid and Keon Carr Carpenter constructively. It said,
they got to get stronger, they got to get better,
they got to get more reliable. They're both really in
essence first round picks. Ke On was the second pick overall,
second round pick Coleman. Yeah, but these guys have got
to get better Keon. Coleman's very sloppy on the round
tree and Kakaid had a He went from having the
greatest single season is a tight end in Bill's history
to having one of the worst seasons in NFL history
for a sophomore tight end. Okay, and Josh knows that, like,
he's got to somehow work with this kid, because now
you have two high picks in your offense that have
to produce. But they have alluded to the fact the
general manager is alluded to the fact that these guys
need to show up. But then later on he says, well,
you know, Dalton Kaka was working with some injuries. Man,
he had some issues. But then, okay, you just said
he needed to get stronger six months earlier. Now you're
out on the radio criticizing radio stations for saying they
need more weapons. So well, which is it, mister general manager?
And so yeah, is it up to the quarterback? Yeah,
but it's also up to the tight end to get
in shape, get better and catch the ball, because you know,
the Bill's traded up for you, and you're not the
first guy they've traded up for who has been a
let down?
Speaker 1: What did you say, Arkan Caine Allen like really close.
Speaker 2: Knocks and Alan knocks, knocks and all kat he just said, like,
I haven't worked out enough with him. That's my fault.
I need to communicate better.
Speaker 4: I need to that's the quarterback being the leader and
taking the bull.
Speaker 2: Maybe he should, maybe he'll maybe, maybe he'll do that.
Speaker 4: But it's kind of like like, but then you're young,
you're tight end. Here's that yeah, And he's like, Okay,
I got to do my part.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: My quarterback took the bullets for me. Now I got
to show up. And I don't know if you saw
any pictures from camp, but he's still wearing a brace
Ka Kate is still wearing a brace on his leg
on his knee. So I mean that injury was significant
last year.
Speaker 2: Do we How are we feeling about the season overall?
I mean, what do I'll start with you, Mark, because
I know Danny's got some deep thoughts, but you're a fan,
you love Josh Allen. Is there a little bit of
a worry there? It's like there's something in me. That
just sits somewhat uncomfortable with this season.
Speaker 1: And I don't even know why because he didn't get
it because they did so good last year and they
weren't supposed to maybe.
Speaker 2: Maybe and and now, I mean when Danny's like, as
soon as the schedule came out, Danny said, there's not there.
They're going to be favored in every game. There's no
reason they couldn't go seventeen, and on paper, the expectations
could be.
Speaker 4: In other words, I'm not saying they're going underface the
reason why they can't go undefeated. Yes, in other words,
the excuses are gone. You've had enough time to figure
this out during.
Speaker 1: Break to go undefeated. Didn't win the superw No.
Speaker 4: The Patriots, No. Seven, Kevin's Patriots, But go ahead.
Speaker 1: Mark, I wish the Patriots and then as much to
the Patriots, did that got the undefeated, got the undefeated season.
I hate, I am, I hate, I hate the team.
Bone can suck it. I don't know if he's dead
or now. Okay, like ten years ago, then you know
he's dead, just like the fing Dolphins. But you know
everybody and I and I've said this before, and I'll
say it that I'm gonna repeat myself. So I've said
this before. When somebody is going to break a record,
the person that has the record goes and supports them.
Miami Dolphins, those douche bags. When the undefeated team would lose,
they'd open up champagne and start drinking and celebrating.
Speaker 4: I have no problems with that.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 4: I have no problems with that.
Speaker 1: How do you have no problems with it?
Speaker 4: I've never had a problem with that. There's they did it.
Speaker 1: They're the only ones. Yeah, but they did it. But
Brett fire was Strahan was the only one to do that,
to be the sack leader.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like you're talking about the football's a
team game. They went undefeated and by the way, this
in fucking nineteen seventy two. Here's the thing. And by
the way, and by the way, Mark's defense, they had
one of the worst They had the worst competition of
maybe any Super Bowl champion at that point. But do
you like back in those days, if you you who
had the best record in football, that didn't guarantee you
home field advantage. They had to go to Pittsburgh in
the AFC Championship game a week after the immaculate reception
and beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh, a budding dynasty which
had yet to win the Super Bowl, and beat them,
and they did, and then they went to the super
Bowl and won that. I mean, you gotta give them
credit for that. Yeah, he got it, them credit for that.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck dev four fifty something years ago, for it
didn't matter fourteen and zero.
Speaker 2: Screw him.
Speaker 1: It was a different league.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true. Now we got three more games and everything.
It's harder.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It is harder.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it isn't harder. I'm saying, like, but
you got to be able to celebrate your accomplishment. I
hate I hate that team, but to bring it back
to the Bills, to bring it back to the Bills,
I think the reason that you have this weird feeling
in the pit of your stomach, yeah, is because you
were the twenty twenty one season.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was where it ended with the thirteen seconds game. Okay, yeah, fun.
Speaker 4: So the Bills in twenty twenty, we still didn't know
if Josh Allen was going to become Josh Allen. He
was not Josh Allen yet, and they started out four
and oh and he looked like an MVP of like,
this is the guy that they drafted, this is why, right,
And then you know, they went back and forth and
they get to the AFC champions Game and they lose
the Kansas City but where it was like, you know
what was we didn't expect them to go all the
way that year. It was like a bonus to get
to the ANC Championship. But you ain't until next year, bro,
you ain't until next year. So they get to the
first game twenty twenty one, the season opener. They're going
up against the Steelers, and neod alarmed Ben Roethlisberger at
that point, and everybody said, if there was a duel
in that studium, it would have come off because we're
coming out of the pandemic. So everybody got to go
to that game who wanted to? And what happened to
that first game? They laid an egg and everybody's looking
around like, wait, what happened? How did how did how
did they lose this game?
Speaker 1: You know what? You know what?
Speaker 2: Oh that was against the Steelers. He was there, Yeah,
the first game.
Speaker 1: Of the season, and it was like what happened?
Speaker 4: They end up losing five more times that you're including
the Urban Meyer in Jacksonville, and it was.
Speaker 2: Like, wow, Josh Allen, Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: They get to the they get to the AFC, they
get to the divisional playoff game, they have thirteen seconds left,
they have Kansas City dead to rights, and somehow they lost.
Speaker 1: They would have won the that's why.
Speaker 4: So in the following year they basically go thirteen to three.
There's no way this team's gonna and then they get
a blown out by Cincinnati at home. Then the following
year they lose six more games. You and I are
at the Monday night game. It's like, this team always
finds ways to lose, and Jordan Phillips goes on record
to the athletic and goes, we gotta stop playing down
to people. There's your answer. Then last year, unexpectedly they
get all the way to the AMC Championship game. Again,
I'm sorry, there was that year in between, and blah
blah blah. They lose to Kansas City at home. Then
they lose to Kansas City on the road. You are
waiting for a letdown because there's always been a letdown.
There's always been a screw loose, and it's always been
either Sean McDermott or something stupid happens where they're not prepared,
or Stefan Digg's flipping out of the sidelines or whatever.
You're always ready for another shoe to drop, because guess what,
another shoe always figures out a way to drop.
Speaker 6: That's why, that's why you have this is why you
have this unsettled feeling in your stomach, because we've seed
it all and it always shows it's enjoyable.
Speaker 3: I did not enjojoy.
Speaker 1: I did not enjoy last season at all. Okay, you know,
because probably they overachieved. I know that, but I was
waiting for the ending sucked. I was waiting for the
ball to drop because Dan's right, that's just the way
it is. But if they lose to Kansas City this year,
what's the status of McDermott.
Speaker 4: According to a friend of ours, Sean mcdermot's not going anywhere.
According to you, me and Bill and the listeners. If
they can't close the door this year, then they got
to find somebody else who could close the freaking door.
And I don't care if Bill Belichick ed Jordan Hudson
show up to do it. Somebody's got to freaking do
it all right? Well, because Josh Allen is losing light. Yes,
you're twenty nine this past week, and he's gonna be
around for a while. I know Peyton Manning didn't win
until he was in the ninth season, the thirty th
but come on, guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get there.
Speaker 4: The city is perpetually getting worse, but somehow their coaching
staff always rises to the occasion.
Speaker 2: But they need to it.
Speaker 1: Definitely can't beat them either.
Speaker 4: And the joke about the Chiefs is that this is
the new phrase now they play with their food. In
other words, all right, it's the last two minutes of
the game. All right, we'll win it now if they
screw around. Meanwhile, the Bills are trying their damn is
to try to win every game. Why can't you close
the door? Why can't you finish? That's why you have
that pit in your stomach. Bill, all right, we will
accustomed to not finishing.
Speaker 1: We will take over here.
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know about your whole adult life? What's one thing you've
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Pricado.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it does show Pricado. Yes, you got Dannis.
Speaker 7: As soon as I close my eyes. Mark's been asking
me to play this song and listen to it and
tell me what you think to it. Oh my god,
I never ever, just I mean exactly.
Speaker 2: Really similar slightly more on Cape kidding your nest.
Speaker 1: Some song sounds when he goes in his next verse.
Speaker 5: Never really known.
Speaker 4: Saying, oh my god, sounds so sweet.
Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great song. Darren Danny thinks
it's over the top. Dan Danny also likes toport also
respects to fourteen You know Dolphins seventeen though fourteen you know.
Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: For people who don't know, I gotta play this all right.
Speaker 2: So there there's hinder. Here is one of my song
I really like from Joey. It's not the one I
was like, this might be a bad example. This is
a song that I wrote.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, makes you move.
Speaker 2: Boat.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 3: It's not showing his rope. It's not as raspy as
he usually sings.
Speaker 1: That's overproduced.
Speaker 3: Sounds good though rhythm.
Speaker 2: Tony eleven on bass doesn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't play out.
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to go on.
Speaker 1: We should go see him. I'm taking change.
Speaker 2: I want to see you.
Speaker 1: Is terrible.
Speaker 3: This sounds like a song that you that you.
Speaker 1: The third graders put together for a freaking talent show.
Oh that's the baselines really good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the baseline, Yes you heard it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony love help me out. Who was Tony was in?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: He was Peter Gabriel's basis many years he was. Uh,
he's an Eastman school guy. He was with Oh God,
what was the power?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Trio? That he used to tell me what we did
an interview with him in the break room. Uh.
Speaker 1: He had a book okay, and I I love the interview,
and he talked.
Speaker 2: About King Crimson. He was in King Crimson as well.
He would jump in Uh, he would jump in a
van and just go up the West coast. Like it
just was about the music. He didn't care. He was
on private jets with Peter Gabriel and then he was Yeah,
he just didn't give a ship. He just loved playing.
Speaker 4: And good for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah the day and he and and really cerebral guy,
like really really deep.
Speaker 4: Was that the dude who showed up? No, that was
somebody else. Uh, you know, we interviewed a guy. We
interviewed Jimmy Richmond.
Speaker 1: Here's a here's a song. Here's a song.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love.
Speaker 1: Harkser's Family.
Speaker 3: I think I love you. Here we go, get ready,
hooro music.
Speaker 1: I like. It's a little fun, a little seventies for.
Speaker 4: It's next to see, next to be.
Speaker 3: It's over produced.
Speaker 1: He has a great voice, and I don't know why
they over I'm not fan to tell you what I
don't like. Laugh. It's just a guy named Joe, Just
a guy named there's a guardian.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I thought something.
Speaker 2: It's just just a guy named Joe that we hear
the hinder again, but just to hear the the similarity
to it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, am I wrong?
Speaker 1: Danny just like, wow, yeah, my brother, it's I gotta
get date my brother Dave Freda for this.
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's a it's a good one. It's
a very good. Look at that, Joe you missed out.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they need I think they need a
new singer, know correctly. Oh really, if they need a
new singer, he he needs good. But the problem, the
problem is you put these rock guys on and all
of a sudden, Pillsbury dough boy goes out and starts singing,
I love Joe Ricottle. I gotta say I love Joe
Ricattle though I'm not.
Speaker 2: What's what's the one thing You've been pretending to know how.
Speaker 1: To do your whole life, your whole adult life.
Speaker 2: But do you just laughed?
Speaker 4: I just don't. I'm thinking I've tried to be as
authentic as possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have, as I got I gotten older, But
I think I uh still even to this day. I'll
talk about cars. Guys will talk to me. I may
not know a lot about it. I've tried to do
tune ups and things and cars. I I I loved it,
but I just wasn't really great at it.
Speaker 1: I always say that would be the closest thing I
can think of. What about you music? Well, yeah, but
you did stuff. But I started to explain, like we
have music rooms in there and instruments. I'm convinced I
could play I can play those instruments. I don't and
I've never picked them up, and I don't think I
really can. Does it make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I mean I'm more
of a music I mean, I consider myself, you know,
I always call myself a musician, but I never really
want you know what.
Speaker 4: Actually, he brings up a point that with me, like
I've I've never been I've never called myself a musician ever.
Speaker 1: Why you were you? But I was?
Speaker 4: But I wasn't a musician though, Like musicians understand theory
and all that other stuff. I could just play rhythm guitar.
When Steve and I played in Diiggler's Bridge, we had
a rule. Steve didn't sing lead. I didn't play lead.
I've never played a lead lick in my life. I
couldn't do a solo to save my life. I don't
know scales. I don't know any of that stuff. I
just knew how to play power chords and regular chords,
and occasionally could pick up a bass once in a
while fake a harmonica. But I really was faking it
as a guitar player. I mean I could sing, but
it was all just intimidation, or not intimidation, inimation because
I don't I'm tone deaf. So I had to learn
how to impersonate the singers musication sing. I don't think so.
My wife is a musician.
Speaker 1: I visit your wife is a musician?
Speaker 4: Be sor are you?
Speaker 1: This is the third thing we're disagreeing with today.
Speaker 4: About each other. We're like, compliment, You're great.
Speaker 1: I love you, dude, you're the best.
Speaker 2: Seriously calling me call twenty five year old women making
up after a fight.
Speaker 1: Do you remember Brian Chase?
Speaker 2: Yes, I still see him once a while when he
comes back to town.
Speaker 1: When I was when I was managing Paul, when I
was managing Paul Cummings and Crossroads. Yeah, he would always
ask to go on stage and play guitar. I wouldn't
plug it in. What Yeah, no, shut up? Yep, are
you serious serious? I was there, so you go up
there he's playing a guitar and it's not plugged in.
Speaker 2: See that's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing. Right, look at the look on Danny's face.
Speaker 4: I know Bride, I know you did.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 4: I worked with Bride's a good dude. I know that
Brian Lake would do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I bring all this up because a twenty seven
year old guy named Kevin Whitman got arrested and is
facing twenty years in prison and a million dollar fine.
Pretend to be a lawyer, No, pretending to be a
doctor the worst. Yeah, right here in Irondequo.
Speaker 1: One thing I've given advice, but I don't know. Yeah,
if I'm going to fake something, that's the last thing.
Speaker 3: Could you spot a face?
Speaker 2: Doctor? And I don't know because it's it's strange, Like
I'm trying to wrap my head around it. I feel
like he got away with it for two years.
Speaker 1: So what was he doing?
Speaker 2: How many people are really involved in this? How many patients?
Was it? Family and friends? He's just reading scripts? But
he's a twenty seven year old guy. I'll just give
you my summation of the article. He's facing federal charges
after allegedly impersonating a physician and distributing prescription drugs, primarily
oxy oxy conone using a stolen DEA registration number tied
to Strong Memorial Hospital. Over a twenty month period, so
almost two years. Witman reportedly issued one hundred and seventy
seven prescriptions to nine individuals.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something, I kind of admire this guy.
Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy three of which, so it's only
nine people drug dealer, one hundred and seventy three of
which were for oxy so of course only four were not.
A raid on his home uncovered a faked, framed diploma
for the University of Rochester Medical School.
Speaker 1: And I go, what is it write into?
Speaker 2: How did you?
Speaker 1: I'm watching suits right now. That's the That's the whole
that's the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Suits.
Speaker 2: But he's brilliant.
Speaker 4: But he's brilliant, brilliant those of the guy's not really
a lawyer.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't pass. He didn't pass. Uh he did
for everyone everybody else. But what was the reason I
gotta keep watching. I think he got in trouble. He
got kicked out of school with something.
Speaker 2: Authorities confirmed he has no medical license or legitimate medical education.
If convicted, he could face up to twenty years and
I go, how is he is it to fake your
way into authority these days? And in a way, what
did I always say, Danny.
Speaker 4: Fake it till you make it, Act like you've been
there what you're doing. Malcolm Gladwell tells this great story
about Bernie Madoff and how madeoff got away with the
Ponzi schemes that he did. There were other investing investment firms.
I don't know the name, so I'm not going to
drop them, but just think of some big investment firms
in New York, right, big hitch funds, And they were
looking at Madolph's record and they're like, this doesn't make sense,
but you know what, let's give it a shot because
he looks like he knows what he's talking about. He's
got all these clients, and then the rug got pulled
out from under him, and they all end up losing
money because they followed this dude because he appeared to
have known what he was talking about.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and for a while he did.
Speaker 4: I mean, the New York Mets actually like made money
on one of his Ponzi schemes and then pulled out
at the right time. And then the Mets had to
go and pay back all the people who got screwed
by murdy Madoff. But the point is that Malcolm Bladwell
suggesting is that if you present yourself as an authority,
people will just go on. Why do you think cults start?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: You know? So, how could you spot a fake doctor necessarily?
And nowadays people doc shot people go on and do teledoctors, Yes,
because they want to get the lost bulner pills, weight loss. Yeah,
I should have went to him ship, But I mean,
who knew you could skip medical school right, steal a
dea number and still run a practice that's more efficient
than most cares.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like he didn't have to wait,
you just got it. It's probably happen more than you
think I would think it is. I mean, if they
said easy for him to do it, how many other
people are doing that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because I go I I'm trying to think if
I ever encountered somebody, Well, we did. We had a
boss that I really liked, but he told lies about
his past. Over compensated This guy JT.
Speaker 1: John Thomas. He's no longer on the planet. He died bot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really, I really, really enjoyed better. I thought
he was a great boss.
Speaker 4: But he told people he said that he played for
Michigan State, Michigan State, Michigan State.
Speaker 2: Somebody we know, I will not say the name, went
and did research I know and thug up who No, say,
say who you think it is?
Speaker 1: It was uh because there was a sales guy that
did the same thing that said he played baseball. Do
you remember that, I do. Yes. He was the one
that was dating. He was the one hanging out with
the I don't even remember, being sidekick on the show. Yeah,
he was saying he had these rings.
Speaker 4: So I'd come who had kids who played college ball?
And they said, yeah, my dad played football at Liberty University.
And I went up and looked at the all time
roster And to have played football, you've had to get
on the field for one down or Oh theoretically he
could have tried out. Okay, he just didn't make the
team or whatever. But you can't if you don't make
the team, you can't go around telling people you played
college football. Okay, because any one of us could go
try out for the Buffalo Bills when they have try
out days and they'll laugh you out of the room
and wanted to let you on the field. But the
point is, well I tried over the bulls, you know.
I mean that's not playing for football, so I mean
it's but still it's it's one of those like gray areas.
Speaker 1: Paging doctor fraud, paging doctor Frodd. I mean it, douchebag Rudy.
I mean he he got it down. I mean he
was off side. You know, he's off side. He gets credit.
They make a movie about him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe Montana threw a lot of cold water on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe Montana did. He said that it didn't happen.
Speaker 4: No, he said it happened. But it was like they
didn't go into Coach Divine's room and say, I want
Rudy address in my spot. That never happened. Rudy's brothers,
a lot of them were made up. They weren't real.
And like he did sack the quarterback and he did
get on the field on that kickoff. But those parts
are true, okay, and all the other stuff. But a
lot of the other.
Speaker 2: Stuff, but like like the Charles Dunton story, Charles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Charles Dutton character was made up. Yeah, I
mean it was just like he got it, so they
had to make a movie out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just.
Speaker 4: Trying to sell popcorn.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did, but it's an inspirational movie.
Speaker 4: Man. I get teared up watching Rudy and then Joe
Montana goes out to Stan Patrick and says, well, a
lot of that stuff didn't really happen.
Speaker 1: That's all right. So Rudy's been a fraud all his life. Yeah, yeah,
that's it.
Speaker 4: Because people who have made something out of very little.
I'm not going to say any names here, I'll tell
you off air, but there's one guy who has made
like a a life coaching career out of an incident
that happened, and it's really it was just kind of
a chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, dad, take advantage of what you can. I mean,
I don't know if you got the motor to go
and do it. It's uh, it's something. It's just it's
weird that you would. I'm going if I'm gonna fake
being something, I feel like it would be easier to
fake being a lawyer than it would be a doctor.
Speaker 4: But because you can talk, you could be.
Speaker 2: But either way disrespect to people who no, no, I know,
but either way, like I'm going Okay, this guy clearly
was doing it for friends and family or somebody. If
there's only nine people, so he but and.
Speaker 4: We won't bill your insurance.
Speaker 2: Well, the U of R. Somebody got fired because the
DEA number to get out is like terrible, right, and
I know what that is. That's all your access to it.
I don't know what it really stands for either, but
obviously it's important and you can't get write prescriptions without it.
So you steal that number. You get that so somebody
there some kind of cybersecurity thing whatever happened. But you're
smart enough.
Speaker 4: To do that.
Speaker 2: I just wish you could use your powers for something
more positive. But I go, wouldn't it? I don't know.
Let's say you were going to go you know what.
Speaker 1: Fuck it.
Speaker 2: I have waited an energent care for hours. I sat
in an emergency room for nearly two days. You know,
I'm going to open my own thing. I'm going to
give great practice.
Speaker 1: Fuck this.
Speaker 2: I'm as smart as these doctors. You know. I got
sixteen hundred of my SATs. These guys don't know whether
to do it, and then you go in there. I
would be so worried. I'd be looking at WebMD trying
to figure.
Speaker 4: Out now ais are you know yeah?
Speaker 2: Or ask ai yeah yeah, and then I bet you
could figure it out sort of yourself. Well you know,
and then you just going to confidently talk.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we mentioned earlier in the program today
like the only fans thing, right, I mean, YouTube is
loaded with self proclaimed experts on quote unquote everything, okay,
And the funniest part is when they get called out
for their bs, Like all right, here's an example. I
forgot the guy's name, but remember when Josh Allen threw
that ball the Dalton Concaid that he dropped. Yeah, okay,
So this guy, this this esteemed film guy who was
on all these shows and all the local guys just
love them. They think he's fantastic. Dumb film He goes
on and he says, all Josh had to do was
turn around and throw the ball over to Khalil security.
You could have gotten the first down at the bottom
of the screen and he would have had to turn
his body that couldtort to do it. Even Josh Allen
couldn't do this. I guess who called him out, Our
old buddy Ryan Fitzpatrick. He goes, hey, it's pretty easy.
To sit there in your swivel chair, but explain to
me how he's gonna do this. Yeah, and he got exposed, Okay,
and he kind of gone into a little bit of
a hiding since then, Why because he doesn't know what
he's talking about.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's this doctor got busted.
Speaker 4: But people do that people, right, But my point is
that these people are everywhere. Yes, now, doctor, I mean
that's like the worst thing. But like I think the people,
I don't think he was. He doesn't sound like he
was practicing like like see like part of the U
of our network. Okay, I don't think you've got a
my chart account. I think he was just like for
friends and family, you need oxy, I'm your guy. What
could you pull off if you need I pull off
to be an imposter like a minister?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, not credential right, didn't go to theology theological schools.
Speaker 4: Ultimately, at the end of the day, he basically just
like do the Billy Graham thing everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like you could. I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not discrediting billion I'm just saying the tough part
is also like we're not saying these jobs are easy,
but you could sort of imposter it if you were confident,
kind of got the here's the gest that beats down
to it. If you how to do things. And I wonder, like,
could you be a teacher. That's I was just thinking, yeah,
like could you be a teacher at a certain grade level?
Speaker 4: Yeah, kindergarten cop, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like I but you'd have to be an authority, talk
your talk, do all that. I think you could probably
pull it off.
Speaker 1: I think. But I think they're so desperate for teachers
they'd probably let me right like the other way.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you were doing a good job, if
you raise test scores, if you actually taught the material.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they're that's what they're doing with
teachers assistants. You know, Yeah, it's hard, it's it is.
Speaker 2: I'll say that it's a hard job in that I
can't imagine the pressures and they gotta read. I wish
test scores and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: I wish I went to school for being a teacher.
Speaker 2: Really, once you try to go back now one year,
a lot of times they'll pay for you just school
one year for I think if teacher assistant, I would think, no,
if you have a bachelor's. I don't have a bet
Oh okay, so you need to get a bachelor's. I
think it's like one year and they'll pay for the masters,
but you got to work for them.
Speaker 1: And they'll take me freaking years. I'll be freaking seventy
by the time and maybe not, maybe not.
Speaker 2: You know what, you go on only fans and find
some chick to encourage you to do that. You'll be
just fine. I lost my I lost my I know
you forgot.
Speaker 1: You lost your cheerleader, You lost your cheerleader. All right,
we will close it out.
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's salary cap training camp coming.
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks will be here.
Speaker 2: Danny's not happy.
Speaker 1: About the hard gume and just what We're gonna go
get tickets to the Killers first? Can you do that, dude?
Speaker 4: It's so expensive. It's it's ridiculous now. Concert prices are
so ridiculous, you know.
Speaker 1: Darren Waald, those guys are gonna get on the stage. Yeah, guys,
Buffalo players. Oh yeah, so you think because they always
play it, Josh I even made that connection. Is a
coincidence that training camp at the same time the Killers
are playing playing here? Is that a coincidence?
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Where are they playing back?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: I love that?
Speaker 1: And they're in fairports, you know? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, all right, Well for the soldier sing out there
living living best like Oh, we gotta call it three
three one five girl, I don't think I have a
numbered ship for Dan, who's always got the inside.
Speaker 1: I love the passion when it comes to sport. I
just I love it.
Speaker 4: I get so much hate for it. Why from an
I'll just say it. I can set it, I could
setch it.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: We're laughing our asses because it's, you know, passion. Where
was the last time I was wrong about plancked.
Speaker 3: Your flag in there?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I said No. One fourteen in all
freaking knocked dolphins.
Speaker 4: He's wrong about that.
Speaker 1: I'm Bill Burran. We'll see you tomorrow.