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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka colored.

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Speaker 2: A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in

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Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram.

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Speaker 3: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks

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for telling a friend, let me get him in the frame,

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because I thought of him last night watching the next game,

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and I see they're doing celebrity roundabouts and they don't

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talk about this guy, but I see him there sunglasses

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on court side, under the basket.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Who's your quarterback of the New York Giants.

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Speaker 4: Anybody who's anybody ever buddy at the Knicks game last

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night like a fox, John McEnroe.

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Speaker 1: Then they win.

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Speaker 2: No, they suck. They don't suck. I mean they were.

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Speaker 3: I watched it there.

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Speaker 1: I watched GEAM one and they were leading like three

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minutes the last I fell asleep.

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Speaker 2: I woke up to the postgame and it was I

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was so bummed out. But it's the Eastern Conference Finals.

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The next is the championship.

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Speaker 1: They did.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they've overachieved a little bit, but I

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don't know I don't know. The soldier is here as well,

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the newly single soldier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah you say who, No, I'm not. I

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shouldn't say.

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Speaker 4: I just said, just to say till until it sets him.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. I guess that's a good point. Yeah, I've

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been too busy to even you know, to think about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, last time they get a picture of Mark

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like sitting on some porch, it's got a stogy in

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his mouth, and I wrote back, you're living your best life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My brother lives right on the water, and so

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we were over there in his porch, drinking and smoking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, having just a good old time. Yeah, it's right

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being the single guy.

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Speaker 1: Uh is this like? Now?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes these these single things, they're temporary, they're little breaks, misunderstandings.

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People need to clear their head the type thing.

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Speaker 1: Or is it? Is it? It's it's over, it's over.

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There's too much, too much happened. Yeah, and you know,

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I mean I'm taking I'm taking the ship on this,

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which I don't which I will. Yeah, you know what

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I mean? What does that? What does that mean with it?

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Speaker 2: But generically taking the ship on this meaning that it's

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your fault, it's my fault on the scumbag.

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Speaker 1: You know, she's posting memes on Facebook and my friends

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are like putting hearts on it, and my friends, I'm like,

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what the fuck you know? But I don't why. There's

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no sense that's right?

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Speaker 2: What we know?

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Speaker 4: Mark, you know what you're getting good to Marriam, of

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course you know what. We support you anyway.

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Speaker 2: What the memes like? Can you give us an example

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of one? Or do you not want to? I want to.

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I don't want to take Well, here's what Mark will do.

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Mark will be in the moment with us.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: I'll say these things because it's just I'm curious. And

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then Markle called, hey, man, can you edit that out?

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Because I don't want to. I don't want to piss

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you all.

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Speaker 1: No, you're not pissing me off. It means about trust

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and ship like okay, so but what are you messing

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around with?

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Speaker 4: No offense?

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Speaker 1: Is there a bigger insult in comment? Or are you

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messing around those fucking you dude?

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Speaker 4: You're not like that though, No, you're not like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean this, there's this is my fault. I mean

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it was both. You know it was both. It was

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you know, two rounds. Don't make it right. Let's just

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put it that way, not make it right just because

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you know, you can't say which was said is You

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can't say that yours is worse than mine, what what

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you did versus what they know? No one, you know

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you can say that. But if you didn't do it,

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you wouldn't. You wouldn't. I don't know how to say this, but.

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Speaker 2: Without saying exactly what it is, it sounds like it's

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a it's a trust.

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Speaker 1: Thing, thing, you know, and we've been they got it

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for two years. So it's like, you know, and maybe

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and I've given reasons not to trust, you know. I mean,

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that's just you know, but that's who I am and

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always have been, you know what I mean. It's like

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I'm not any different than I was two three years ago.

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Speaker 4: This is what you get. This is what I've always been.

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This has always been my baseline. So you should be surprised.

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Is that the Mark? Is that what I'm hearing? I'm sorry?

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Is that what it sounds like I'm hearing?

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Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 1: She was? She was. She's an awesome woman, and I

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love the time we spent together and I don't regret anything,

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and I wish her the best. You know. I mean

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three years, yeah, two, well two.

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Speaker 4: Cumulative speaking to you.

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Speaker 1: Know, two years, two years.

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Speaker 2: But you know, with a little break.

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Speaker 1: No one we we did we started dating, was there's

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breaks in that, and then we went two years together,

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you know. But I'm not going to say anything bad.

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I mean, there's nothing to say bad. It's hard to

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say bad. But you know, I'm also you know, I'm

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also not talking. I mean, it's the first thing I've

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actually talked about. I'm not posting shit on Facebook. I'm

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not doing anything. I haven't even discussed it with anybody.

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You know, I've been going. But you know, and I

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feel that on the other side that's being discussed and

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I'm coming out as a freaking scumbag asshole.

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Speaker 2: I think that the one thing that in any kind

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of breakup, my whole thing has been, it's it's over.

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You need to clean by that. By a clean break,

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I mean just one where there is no contact. Uh.

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Some people tell you now right, because we have the

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Internet and there's things we may be new inherently but

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never acted upon. But like a thirty day break, some

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people say, block that person in your phone. I've heard

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people go, well, that's really childish. But the other part is, well, no,

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it's not because it prevents the all of a sudden,

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I'm a little buzzed and I'm mad at you, and

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I'm gonna call you up.

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Speaker 1: It's a quarter after one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a little drunken. I need you now, or

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I'm gonna pitch at you now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean exactly. And I think

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those things are good.

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Speaker 4: I say it. I wouldn't call but I've had for

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Jack Danielsanna, But.

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Speaker 2: I think taken the high road and by the high

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road of saying nothing, saying nothing. Look, man, I have

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lived through it. I have lived through a social media

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onslaught of things. I have had people call friends of

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mine and say things you and Billy did well, other stuff,

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and so.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do.

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Speaker 2: But the only thing I would do is never address it,

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because all you do is inflame that. And I think

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sometimes there's the other person. I think, by doing these

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things want they want you to react. They're looking for

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a reaction, and when they don't react, it's you know,

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it's a child, it's a little bits, it's a it's

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a learned behavior that we don't we just don't need.

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And I always go I have done that, like I've

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come to it. But even like in radio stuff, I

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think the one time that I was really like got

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really really like frustrated was there were these guys Kramer

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and Twitch. They were put together and they were on

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the West Coast, which and Uh they worked for a company.

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I worked for a CBS company. They worked for what

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is now well it was transitioned into iHeart. But they

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were out on the West Coast and Eric Anderson was

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e man was the boss over there.

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Speaker 1: And then after the after the nerve, No.

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Speaker 2: This is during the nerve. So they put these guys

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on and they had moved me to do four to

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nine and told me after six I could do whatever

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I wanted. Now I had had my first kid, and

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I guess I wore a sweater vest or something like that.

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So Eric used to take pictures of me, like from

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the Internet and things because it was early internet, and

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send it to these guys and send me all this

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and send them all these nasty things to say about me.

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So they called me once uh in the studio and

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I was on the studio phone. They got through like

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the front desk, and I said, I'm not doing this.

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You do not have my permission to air me unless

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you call me at this number where I can tape

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you as well. Right, So, only because I knew what

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they were gonna do. They were going to manipulate anything

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I said. So these guys call and they tried doing

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their shit, and I, I don't know, they looked terrible

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to me.

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Speaker 1: I shot back and said things.

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Speaker 2: But these guys were like coming at me, coming at me,

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coming at me, saying all these nasty things. They would

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have people call, they would do all this shit. Never

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really worked, but they were trying to get under my

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skin and eventually did. And I was going to the

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West Coast for a vacation and I was like trying

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to figure out where these guys were because I was

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going to go confront them.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was awesome, right, I was going to.

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Speaker 2: Go confront them because they were saying shit about my kids,

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my my new baby.

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Speaker 1: It sounds a tower, It sounds like the old Towers Star.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was, but it was Creamer.

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Speaker 1: Jackson already had tattoos, and I was like, it's so

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funny if it has tattoos. I forgot that is covered.

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Speaker 2: At tattoos, Uh, not covered. But he's got a lot

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of the Uhdragon. And then and after that, I was like,

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oh my god, I gave away all my power. I

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gave away all my power by saying nothing and just

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continuing to be me is the most powerful thing you

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can do, right, you know, And the only thing I'll

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tell you what sucks more than anything for other people.

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Nothing sucks like success when you go and you are

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successful and you continue on. Those guys got fired. They

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told people to open doors in San Francisco, open your

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car doors when you see bicyclists coming down the street,

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so they would drive into their car doors, and they

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got fired.

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Speaker 4: There's a huge cycling lobby in California. Nobody knew about it.

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Speaker 2: And I don't even think these two dudes were in

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the same city. I think one was in Dallas, one

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was in San Diego. And they were put together. You know,

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radio was trying to save more. Yeah, exactly, and would

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you do no problem?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, we'll put two guys in. This is such

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a radio idea. Two guys who've never met in two

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different cities will put together. Hey, we'll syndicate you. Yeah,

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these rock stations where you play most of the music,

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because what could go wrong? Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either.

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Speaker 4: That's that's iHeart.

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Speaker 2: Look, I just tell you that the that's radio in general.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't like,

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but I think that, uh, you're better off just just

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doing it and even in your relationship say nothing. Eventually

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people see clear you were mad at me over an

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old relationship. No, no, no, no, I'm just saying like, but

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but once you, I never said anything. I never reacted.

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I never said ship to you.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I think during it we ended up doing shots

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and drinking and thirsty.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I just said to you, I never had

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a problem.

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Speaker 1: With you, and I never did.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't even mad that you were upset and you

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were sort of friends with this other person. But I

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and then you said to me, well blah blah blah,

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and would yeah, I know.

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Speaker 4: I remember one time, Remember Jeremy Shockey, big mouth, tight

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end for the giants of the miamiy Hurricanes. So he

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getting interviewed and he keeps, like the report keeps batting

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their eyes, so he keeps talking and talking, so they

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get the Bill Parcells we never played for. He called

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Bill park Cells a quote, Homo, that's what he called them.

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so they got to Parcels and asked Parcels about it.

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Parcels goes, yeah, I don't know what that was all about.

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And they go, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that was all about? That was

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it just left it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like like and all of a sudden, all the

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bullets are out of the gun. There's nothing else.

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Speaker 1: Anybody.

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Speaker 4: Let's not escalat because I'm bored about coaching a football team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest thing is like all that stuff

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in life. And boy, I think I didn't expect to

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talk about this, but I think that sometimes we never

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grow up, and in social media we get to spill

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our drama.

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Speaker 4: Say all the stuff that we can't say way back

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when we got hurt, way back when, right if that

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ever happened again next time.

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Speaker 2: But I can tell you how I'm feeling and all that,

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And I think in some ways it's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: It's nice. It's good.

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Speaker 2: It could be really really hurting and you need someone

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to call you and you're right on the brink of

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maybe like just going I can't handle this life anymore.

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Speaker 4: Good, Somebody talk to me. Keep it short, that's okay.

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Speaker 3: But the I don't want.

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Speaker 2: To talk about it that I ha I do too,

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the drama and the mean thing which is passive aggressive. Right.

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Speaker 1: I have a meme that I that I found and

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I was going to put it on instead of it's

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just sitting in my photos and I'll say one thing

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and then we'll move on from this. She is, She's

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a big part of why I'm at where I'm at now. Yes, yes, huge, poser, huge,

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She's the one to encourage me, you happier. Yes, yes,

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So I'm not going to go back to the way

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it was before her. I'm going to go forward being this,

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being like this, yes, because but she encouraged me and

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everything she did, everything she did for me.

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Speaker 4: I think she was good for you.

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Speaker 1: She was good for me.

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Speaker 4: But you know, she made you a better person, help

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help you become a better person and make somebody about you.

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Don't make somebody a better person.

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Speaker 2: To say, yeah, that's what it should be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah she made me. Yeah, I don't, you know. I

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mean she you know, she helped me get you know,

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she helped me get you know, get my car and

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stuff like that. You know, she's a big part of

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the success that's happening now, which sucks because she can't

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you know, she's not gonna be part of it now.

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But you know she is the mean, she is a huge,

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huge reason that I'm I'm, you know, doing what I'm doing. Now.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, let me give you, like just a scenario,

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just a thing six months from now. Yeah, you wind

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up in the same space, not on purpose, but by accident.

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Maybe it's a it's a restaurant bar, you've had a

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couple of drinks, you see her, You go over and

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start talking. The conversation actually goes very smoothly. You end

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up laughing and stuff. Do you think that there would be.

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Speaker 1: I don't think she'll ever trust me, Okay, okay, So

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so if you don't have trust, you don't have anything.

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Speaker 2: I agree, you know, I agree, And so I mean,

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but that's all fear stuff too. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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I'm not afraid you're going to X y Z.

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Speaker 1: I gave you know, I definitely gave reasons, you know,

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to not to trust me.

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Speaker 2: But I would love to know what that would be.

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Speaker 1: I can't say. I'm not gonna say. I know, I

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know I've probably said too much anyways, But but you know,

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there's no there's no you know, Oh, I can't I

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hate her stuff like that because I don't. I mean

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when I stopped when I walked into you know, to

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work yesterday, you know that's that's you know, that was

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her encouragement and and telling me.

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Speaker 2: To Were you afraid to go for the job that

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you have?

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Speaker 1: Yes, because I was in I was in another job

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where I was in another job and I was working

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that job, and then I was doing in the middle

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of it. I was working, I was working in transportation.

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Then I was working in the cafeteria. So a job,

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my my job came up and I was like, all right,

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I'm gonna apply for it, and she's like, apply for

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it to see what happens. Well, I get hired. I

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wasn't sure I was gonna take the job because I

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was going to lose for you know that four hours

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to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: She goes, well, she will take care of it. She goes,

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we'll go with it. She was take the job, try

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it and see what, you know, see where it goes.

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Speaker 2: And it's been amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'm going you know, I'll be going into my neck neck.

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I've already set to start. You know to go into September.

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You know, after two lines, I'm going, so you know,

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I'm I mean that that's huge. I mean I probably wouldn't.

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I probably would still be in a liquor store with

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guns being in my face.

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Speaker 2: Right. It would be interesting if you ever saw her,

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let's say, six months from now, and just said to her, listen,

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I I I'm not sure you even want to hear

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from me, but I need to tell you my life

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is better because you were she you were in it for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she knows, she knows it. I would tell her

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that all the time.

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Speaker 2: I tell her that the balls thing for because a

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lot of guys won't. You don't want to admit that,

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or you know, but I do think, like you know,

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the old saying was behind every great man is a

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it's a strong woman or a great woman or I

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ever forget what the saying was, but it was something

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similar to that, and it is something like that. Why

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don't we take a break because this is leading me

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to everybody thinks that only fans is about steamy pictures

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and spicy clips. Yeah, but it but it turns out

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it's more like a group therapy with a subscription fee

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for some guys and they just did this study. Uh

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it's an emotional thirst, not so much the thirst trap

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of pictures, but an emotional thirst that guys are looking

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for someone to just kind of ask, how's your day?

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And it's there's one guy that has dropped nearly six

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million dollars just to chat with a woman. And I'll,

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I know, I know it sounds that way, but America,

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I think this is true. I'm not saying that there

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the man never.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got you gotta worried. One is the triple

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crown he's won. He won like three awards, three different categories.

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So they have band, they have three different bands. Go

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on and they're playing the song. All of a sudden,

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he's sitting in the front. He teach his retiring who's

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on steage and just freaking please this. You know, I'm

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like cool. He amazes me every time I see him.

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The guitar he is.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I've heard people who love country music and love rockety

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to say he's the greatest performer they've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Really, I put him up with Springsteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like I okay, so I've seen you know me,

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I'm a nineties kid. I love nineties bands. Yeah, but

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Springsteen's like the greatest performance I've ever seen. Yeah, and

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I've heard this guy is right up there with Springs. Yeah,

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I've never seen Keithurper.

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Speaker 1: Because if you listen him play the BUCkies, that's like,

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to me, what's that?

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Speaker 2: BUCkies?

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Speaker 3: Is this?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: It's like as no, it's like a seven to eleven

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on steroids.

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Speaker 1: Basically you go on the seven eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but it was a guy started it in Texas

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and they were building one outside of where Jack Jamison

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and lived in Alabama, in Athens, Alabama, so it's sort

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of on the way to Huntsville, and it was tons

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of gas pumps. Huge. You go in there and you

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can get rotisserie, chickens, you can get food. They at

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brisket every day. It's all these cute and they've become

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like a destination for people. Well, when they open this

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Keith Urban, because it's an hour outside of Nashville, came

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and played BUCkies and they had like three thousand, I

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don't know thousands of people the thirteenth I don't know

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what the number was, but it was fucking huge, and

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you know, so many people they couldn't even I don't

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think you could even see him necessarily, but they set

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up and he did it, and I think it was

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a free show.

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Speaker 4: He's kind of picked up the mantle from Garth Brooks.

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Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, on New Year's Eve, I went to Nashville.

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Keith Urban plays a free concert right in like their

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park or whatever it is, their version of Central Park.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I got I pee for VIP because I know it's

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gonna be cold, and I wanted to, you know, be

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able to have an inside and we had our own

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area to watch him. There had to be fifteen twenty

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thousand people watching a free show, no shit, yep, twenty nineteen,

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counting in twenty twenty. Yeah, well we didn't know that

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night what twenty twenty was gonna be. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I'm like, give me the fuck out of twenty nineteen.

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You know that was a bad, bad year, and all

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of a sudden, I'm just saying, oh yeah, two thousand.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember that New Year's Eve distinctly?

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Speaker 2: You do? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen to the twenty two hours with Beth with

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with a couple of friends, and I got my buddy

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who's a guitar player in another band, Karma Sean. He

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doesn't sing, but I got him to sing Country Roads

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by John Denver karaoke at this place. Right, So we're

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having a good time and bethlecks me, this is gonna

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00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,839
be the best year ever.

472
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: Maybe it was I made a lot of money.

473
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,279
Speaker 4: Maybe it was I'll tell you what, man, we didn't

474
00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:57,359
get sick of each other, that's O the game.

475
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,039
Speaker 1: Maybe it was.

476
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 4: I mean I know that we maybe woods stuck lack glue.

477
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's that's sort of it. Well,

478
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,480
speaking of that stuck like glue, Mark just said that

479
00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:13,039
his current relationship has ended, but it has made his

480
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:13,599
life better.

481
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

482
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:16,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, he's already got he's already got his calendar

483
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,440
lined up.

484
00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:22,559
Speaker 2: So, but a new report from super Creator, I don't

485
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:25,079
know what Supercreator exactly is, but it reveals that seventy

486
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,920
eight percent of conversations between top paying men and only

487
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,119
fans creators aren't sexual. They're not sexual p seventy eight.

488
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:35,759
You know what, you know what?

489
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: I believe that, dude, I think you do.

490
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 4: I think we only hear about the sexual stuff. But

491
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,200
I would be honest with you. Most people, I don't

492
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,039
even care who you are, are sharp enough to understand

493
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,640
that with that camera, and with that cloud, anything can

494
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:52,599
get out, anything could get out. Most people aren't taking

495
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:54,599
their clothes off. We just hear about it. No, I

496
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,240
think everybody else has a talent that they want to

497
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:00,519
share with somebody. Their sex stuff they're is but like

498
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,920
seventy eight No, the point is, like I think twenty

499
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,119
two percent, which is sexual, is kind of high. We

500
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:08,839
look at the whole thing is sexual.

501
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,039
Speaker 2: It's not, well, not all of it is. But what

502
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,200
I'm talking about is, let's go with the ones that

503
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:16,720
are only fans showing off tits and ass.

504
00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

505
00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: But I guess most of these people are chatting about pets, work,

506
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:28,680
hobby stress is ya sooahem Sophie Sophie Rain is a

507
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:32,839
top creator with seven million Instagram followers, has a fan

508
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,359
named Charlie. He's a married man who spent six million

509
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,720
dollars over two years mainly just chatting, mainly not saying

510
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,759
that there isn't other things, but majority of it is chatting.

511
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:49,079
Another creator, Babby Pompolonis, Sabby, Yeah, you know, Babby No

512
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,119
charges thirty thousand dollars to be a digital wife, doing

513
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,839
things like watching football and listening uh to vent sessions. Basically,

514
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,599
these men are paying someone to ask how is your debaby?

515
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,160
That's what they're doing. And it's a weird thing. And

516
00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:08,680
it was funny to hear Mark just go this person

517
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:10,880
made my life better. And I wonder at some point

518
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,440
you when you miss somebody in a relationship ends, sometimes.

519
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: It's not the sex that you miss. Noah, I mean,

520
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,559
you know what I'm saying.

521
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:22,759
Speaker 2: It's like I could really talk to that person about this,

522
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,599
whatever the encouragement, you know, the let's yeah, yeah.

523
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 4: That's the idea. Yeah, sex is supposed to be just.

524
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:32,000
But here's the thing about the equation.

525
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: But well, here's what I wonder, honestly, is this a

526
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,319
digital band aid for mass loneliness?

527
00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:42,519
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm never going to be lonely. You're never gonna

528
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:46,240
be never A'm you sure about that? Never I went

529
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,279
before before we were together. I I like, I like

530
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,319
coming home from work, you know, watching you know, the tube,

531
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:56,640
going to bad and I like working you know, the

532
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,960
weekends at you know, the evering and stuff like that.

533
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,119
So I don't have to worry now about somebody's feelings

534
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,960
getting hurt.

535
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: Not Yeah, yeah, but I mean I think sometimes you

536
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:10,200
get so accustomed to doing things your own way, you

537
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,720
don't realize how lowly you truly are. Like I remember

538
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:17,279
when I was going between marriages, okay, which was about

539
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,319
a seven year period actually, between between my ex wife

540
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,640
and Beth. Really, so I talked about five year period.

541
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,440
Really where five o'clock Friday, I'm like, okay, what do

542
00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:27,720
I do?

543
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,039
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay.

544
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:32,799
Speaker 4: My brother is married, he has a family, he's got

545
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:34,680
his own thing. My sister's married, she's got a family.

546
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,119
My friends are all gone, they're all married off. Well,

547
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,200
Bill Morand doesn't talk to me anymore. I got to Bud, Well,

548
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,680
I'm just joking. I got no I'm like, I'm like,

549
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:44,720
what do I do with myself?

550
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:47,799
Speaker 1: I don't It's an interesting thing, But I'll go watch

551
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,359
I'll get KFC and what family go? I did it?

552
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,559
Only two texts yesterday from Bill and my brother. That's all. Yeah,

553
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,359
only two texts.

554
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

555
00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:58,279
Speaker 1: It was weird. Yeah, but last night I got out

556
00:27:58,279 --> 00:27:59,880
on the job and I went down with my brother

557
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,240
and you know, Bourbon, and it was you know, I

558
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:04,279
find things to do.

559
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: Well.

560
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: The thing is that what they're.

561
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: Finding is the key to longevity is human connectiveness. Yes,

562
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,880
and as we get more and more digital, I think

563
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,119
you have to work harder and harder to take it

564
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:17,720
to reality. And I think that sometimes if you're feeling

565
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,200
lonely and you go on social media and you see

566
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,440
everybody putting up their best selves, their best moment.

567
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,799
Speaker 1: Anybody that does that most of the time, Yeah, anybody

568
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,160
that puts on a thing, Oh I love this person's great,

569
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,839
blah blah blah.

570
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,039
Speaker 2: No they're miserable, yes, I I well, I've always said

571
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,839
that it's over compensation, especially when a guy goes, it's

572
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,279
my beautiful, most amazing wife's birthday to day. If you

573
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,400
see this raging beauty in her asses the size of

574
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,480
a fucking picture window and probably nothing. I'm just saying, like,

575
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,839
but it's almost like over compensation. Sometimes it makes me uncomfortable.

576
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:56,119
Speaker 4: Told me a story about her ex husband once she

577
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,200
goes it's like like every once in a while, like

578
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:01,799
people have the these like themes that go on these

579
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,960
trends on social media where repost if you have the.

580
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,599
Speaker 1: Greatest husband in the world to say something about them,

581
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,480
And she.

582
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: Posted about her ex husband, who was, according to her

583
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:14,279
these aren't my words, was the biggest douchebag. I'm glad

584
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:15,759
I have one of the good ones. She goes. I

585
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,079
should have known, like why did I post that he

586
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:21,039
was a douchebag? It was over compensation. It was trying

587
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,440
to like let everybody know everything's okay, which it wasn't.

588
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:24,680
It was a red flag.

589
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: It is I think it's a red flag.

590
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,079
Speaker 2: But the thing that I keep seeing with this stuff

591
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,119
is like it's almost like marriage is sort of outsourced,

592
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,839
but you hit on something. And I experienced that. I

593
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:39,599
would sometimes, like on a Friday night when I was

594
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,920
first separately, like that first year, sometimes I would hang

595
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,759
out with somebody early afternoon, but then by five o'clock

596
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:52,000
then what everything was quiet? So I would go down

597
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,880
to like Thirsty's and I would go there. And I

598
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,720
did that a few times, and I had something happened

599
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:02,200
there that I.

600
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:05,359
Speaker 4: Was like the Sharks and the Jets had a little showdown.

601
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: Uh No, I've talked about it. I had, I had

602
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:14,000
somebody not this again. It might have been during during

603
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,000
COVID actually, because it was COVID, because I remember there

604
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:18,960
where they put partitions in the bar.

605
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:20,599
Speaker 4: Had to be the worst time to be single.

606
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,839
Speaker 2: No was It was actually pretty good for me because

607
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,440
I wasn't home alone. I still went to work every

608
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:33,359
day I left the I went every day when every

609
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,559
day I and then I had a friend who owned

610
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,519
an establishment when everything shut down, so we would go

611
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,200
in there under the guise of fixing the yeah and

612
00:30:42,359 --> 00:30:44,480
fixing the floors and doing that, and I would get

613
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:46,559
shu faced.

614
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: Hey, it's just is this fort tile is this floor

615
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:50,079
tile match?

616
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: And then uh yeah, so it was I'd have to

617
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,759
get ride home and whatever. But but prior to that,

618
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,400
not even there, I think something happened where some guy

619
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,720
came up to me and goes, hey, something like I'm

620
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:05,200
talking to.

621
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,519
Speaker 1: His wife or whatever, and I'm like, I remember that.

622
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just remember being like, I go, you

623
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:15,319
know what I'm not and I don't want that reputation

624
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,400
and what am I doing?

625
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:16,759
Speaker 1: Right?

626
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: It's funny. Human connection is so important that we always love.

627
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,279
Like with George Went just dying recently, you talk about

628
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:29,960
cheers and right norm and you saw that connection. And

629
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,759
but I go, God, I watch people and everybody in

630
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,920
the bar they were like sort of friends and stuff

631
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,920
and they hung out. But some of the ones that

632
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:43,000
they look grizzled, and I go, I don't want to

633
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,160
I don't want to be the bar guy. I don't

634
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,920
want to be the bar. I like going into a bar,

635
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,160
I like drinking, but I don't want that to be

636
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:56,079
my every Friday night. I'm with you on something that

637
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,559
was almost depressing about it to me, and yet at

638
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:02,039
the same time, I'm sitting home alone was depressing and

639
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:05,119
then I had to stop and go, yeah, but this

640
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:05,640
is okay.

641
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: See See, sitting home alone to me is awesome. It

642
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,759
is nice, and I'm like.

643
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, but that. But at the same time,

644
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:16,559
having someone to talk to, just sit on the couch with,

645
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,559
have a glass and wine and talk to And I

646
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:22,519
do wonder, like the digital girlfriend economy is it gonna go?

647
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,119
I mean, marriage isn't dead.

648
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:24,759
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just.

649
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:26,359
Speaker 2: Outsourced for some of this stuff.

650
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: You ever heard the thought of you ever heard the

651
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,519
idea of predictive programming, where like the movies and TV

652
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:35,519
shows are actually like telling you what's going to happen when. Okay,

653
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:39,319
So remember that movie with Joaquin Phoenix and Scarlet Johansson.

654
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: She wasn't in the movie, but her voice. The movie

655
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,880
is called Her And.

656
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,359
Speaker 4: It's about a digital operating system that doubles as your

657
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,359
girlfriend and this guy became attached to it. That's where

658
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,400
we're headed and like Zuckerberg now says, you don't need

659
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,920
real friends anymore. I'm gonna give you AI friends, right,

660
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:56,160
and that's what you're gonna have.

661
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: That's actually a movie on Netflix right now. Is a guy,

662
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,880
it's a girl. You find out that she's a I

663
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,200
and then she ends up getting human feelings. Oh, I mean, but.

664
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,119
Speaker 4: That's not a rep I mean, that's not a replacement.

665
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,000
I remember when my wife went on vacation in January

666
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,000
and she was gone for a week. Most guys were like, yeah, freedom,

667
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:16,759
I was miserable.

668
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,759
Speaker 2: I missed my wife. I missed my wife after a

669
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:25,480
couple of days. Miss you just missed the routine without Yeah,

670
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:26,960
yeah right.

671
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: It's uh, but you go.

672
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,279
Speaker 2: Wi are married men spending millions of dollars.

673
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: Just to talk to somebody because they're not getting that

674
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:34,079
conversation at home?

675
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,119
Speaker 1: Why is that? Because maybe they don't like each other.

676
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: They married the wrong person too, they outgrew each other, which,

677
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,279
by the way, like once you marry somebody, hey, you're well,

678
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,240
let's put it this way. The idea is you're supposed

679
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,319
to understand that they're going to change, and you got

680
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,000
to be able to roll with those punches and it's

681
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,680
easier said than done. I get that, but it happens, uh,

682
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,839
you know, so that could be part that that's part

683
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,359
of it too, or like you know. Also, I think

684
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,759
the food we eat contributes to our mind going certain directions,

685
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,799
and sometimes it goes in directions that we can't fix,

686
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,160
and somebody else is there to fix that match that.

687
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,039
I don't know. I don't think those are any excuses,

688
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,039
but I think those are reasons why people do that.

689
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: What were you gonna say? Because I saw you start

690
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,440
to say something, I totally forget, all right, don't know,

691
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,320
but because I'll ask this because I go, you know,

692
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:23,039
forget our mind's turn into a chemical mess. Well, forget porn.

693
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,880
But men are paying to be feel seen and heard,

694
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,000
which is kind of funny, right, I Men want respect,

695
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:31,800
women want love.

696
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: When does this?

697
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: What does it say about masculinity? Isolation? The lack of

698
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:42,239
emotional outlets for men in a hyperconnected yet emotionally sterile world.

699
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,079
And that's sort of what you see.

700
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 4: Well, because we've been we'll go ahead, markets right, I

701
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:46,880
think it's.

702
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I drove to Nashville by myself. Yeah,

703
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,880
because if I want to go right, I want to

704
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,639
go right. I don't want to go left, you know

705
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,800
what I mean? Yeah, I drove to Keith Urban Can

706
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:57,920
by myself.

707
00:34:58,119 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

708
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: I like doing things by my self because I want

709
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,519
to be able to do what I want to do. Well.

710
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: We had a friend Tommy Mulay used to do that.

711
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,400
Tommy will go to China by himself, Argentina by himself.

712
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: That's right.

713
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,159
Speaker 4: Get he gets a telegram at the hotel. Could do

714
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,599
is from America? Kano is back hero. I like doing

715
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:20,880
stuff by myself. But then he got married. Man. Then

716
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,519
he realized, you know what, I am better off with somebody.

717
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,039
Speaker 1: Yes, right, but it didn't work for me.

718
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: So but he yes, right, But you have to like

719
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,159
being alone and it's it's a weird thing. But you

720
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,440
should almost take yourself on dates. You know who talked

721
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,840
about that a lot. We got to get her back

722
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,079
on Stephanie I. Stephanie used to travel by herself, go

723
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:47,920
to Concert herself, to go out and eat at a

724
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,840
like a nice restaurant, but eat at the bar and

725
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,039
strike up a conversation with people around her.

726
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 4: And there is something that turned to bed from Yellowstone.

727
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: There's it's.

728
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 2: Mac girl, that woman, it's fear based that we go, Oh,

729
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,480
I can't do that. I can't do Why can't you?

730
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:06,039
Speaker 4: Why can't you?

731
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: Why can't you have to do things?

732
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: My friend Bill Moran used to tell me, Danny, you

733
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,159
gotta do every once in a while, you gotta do

734
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:12,920
something that scares you.

735
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: Yes, as you go upstairs and threaten to quit.

736
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:18,519
Speaker 2: Did I say that's you?

737
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: I tell you, that's so many words.

738
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 4: And I was about to go upstairs and I couldn't

739
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,519
do it, and I started balling, and Kano was right there.

740
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: He was bro.

741
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: Kano went upstairs. It goes bro the kids at his

742
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000
wits end. Man, He told JT could help him out,

743
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,199
because I was just at my WIT's end at that point.

744
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

745
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,679
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know I was dealing with, like the

746
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,840
psychological trauma that I was dealing with at the time.

747
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: I had no idea the uh, but you're right, you

748
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,719
gotta do something.

749
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:45,559
Speaker 4: That scares you every once in a while. You'll grow

750
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:46,440
from those moments.

751
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,519
Speaker 2: I think that in the field alive. And when I

752
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:52,360
say scares you, I don't mean destructive, right, I don't

753
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,519
mean really scared.

754
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: To do this a ball, but I'm gonna do it.

755
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,000
I'm really scared to shoot up Harold.

756
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: But I hear that. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying, like,

757
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,000
take a chance. Yeah, take a chance, Like if it

758
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:08,960
scares you and it's not going to hurt you.

759
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

760
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: You know, if you got an opportunity to to speak

761
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,960
in front of a crowd that could bring you new

762
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,239
clients or whatever, do it. If you've got an opportunity

763
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,360
to do something different and it could benefit you if

764
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,320
it works out, do it. Don't be afraid. But at

765
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,320
the same time, wow, people may laugh at you. You

766
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,079
could fail, you could fall on your face.

767
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what Yeah, I mean, I know said the dud.

768
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:36,679
Speaker 4: But man, once you do it, man, you feel great.

769
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,039
Speaker 1: Yes, you feel alive.

770
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:38,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

771
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,119
Speaker 1: I've had three different lives. I you know, I'm starting.

772
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,800
I started in radio, was my first real job. Then

773
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,320
I went to TV, and then all of a sudden,

774
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,280
when that ended, I went, you know what did I

775
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:50,920
do after that?

776
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,199
Speaker 4: I went into the bar business, right.

777
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: The bar business. Yeah, I went and opened the bar.

778
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,480
That's kind of shooting Heroin though, to be honest. Then

779
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,119
after that I started, I went into what I'm doing now.

780
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:04,119
It's like three totally different things.

781
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,639
Speaker 4: Which is like going on a cocaine. But you know,

782
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,559
you get the point. I'm just joking. I was just

783
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:10,159
gonna say working with kids, I'm joking with my wife

784
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,679
deals with kids, you don't don't even joke.

785
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: I will say that as much as I have picked

786
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:21,079
on that company we used to work for together, which one,

787
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,000
Oh that one, that one together? Yeah?

788
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,519
Speaker 1: Uh, that was the best show. That was the best

789
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:29,519
morning show. Really think show. Yeah, I really think so too.

790
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: It was, but it really was. I will say that

791
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,400
they did it right. They're still standing. Yes, they're still there,

792
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,400
they're still holding on and uh it was and and

793
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:45,599
winning significantly because because of one person. Maybe, No, I

794
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:45,920
don't know.

795
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: I can't say that.

796
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:49,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. If he was to leave that show,

797
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,800
the show would would.

798
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: I think that, But I think they would adapt. The

799
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:56,199
host is a very smart guy.

800
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: He is, but he's annoying, all right. Well, I don't

801
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:01,800
want to get that. Didn't mean to get into that

802
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:04,760
talk about it. I think they have the best Morning America.

803
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,079
I always not him.

804
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: I always pushed against the management a bit, but maybe

805
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,000
the man they knew something I didn't know.

806
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:12,519
Speaker 1: I love.

807
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: I love to admit that I love the guy too.

808
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: By the way, I just talked about he's a friend.

809
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 4: But he is he a friend?

810
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,039
Speaker 1: He came more in my house for a party.

811
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: One Oh wow, okay, all right, he's a friend. Uh

812
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:25,719
but I know I wasn't invited.

813
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: We will take it.

814
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: I really wasn't. No, seriously, you had a party at

815
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,840
your house. I had no idea.

816
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,079
Speaker 1: Was this is like twenty years ago?

817
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,519
Speaker 4: Okay no, but all seriousness to like, this is why

818
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,440
I love you, Mark, because you have this richness. You've

819
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:40,880
experienced life, You're not afraid like I wrote a column

820
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,159
in the Times Way County about Norm, not George went

821
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,559
about Norm. Yeah, and I said, Norm is the guy

822
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,079
that nobody wants to be like you talked about earlier,

823
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,840
but the guy that everybody wants to be remembered. Recognized

824
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,039
why because he left Cheers better than he found it. Right,

825
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,000
Everybody loved to see Norm. He wasn't always trying to

826
00:39:58,039 --> 00:39:59,639
be the center of attention, but man, he had those

827
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:01,840
one liners that made everybody crack up. But he made

828
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,880
fun of Cliffy when he remind Sammy at the very

829
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,639
end of Cheers. He reminded, Sammy, you always come back

830
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,039
to your first love. You'll never You'll always be loyal

831
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:10,320
to hurt.

832
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: He what do you mean by that?

833
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,039
Speaker 4: Think about it, Sam, and he walks out. That's the

834
00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:18,320
idea of connection, loyalty, love. And You've been that guy who,

835
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,480
no matter what happened, you always get back up and

836
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:21,480
do something else.

837
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: You wipe off your face or some glaze on it. No,

838
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,360
I mean no, seriously, you always.

839
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:32,039
Speaker 3: You always what the fuck's on my face?

840
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: No matter what happens, no matter how many times people

841
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,800
make fun of you, no matter what, you always get

842
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,440
up and try again. You don't care, true, you always

843
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,760
get up, Mark, And I'm happy for you.

844
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but you know, look at that.

845
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 4: Better start an only fans account with billified. We're gonna

846
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,159
help people that talk him up. Whether I believe it

847
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:54,360
or not.

848
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: I changed my appointment, So I'm going to brunch.

849
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 2: We'll take it really all right, Well, take a moment.

850
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,880
I'd like to talk about the salary cap, which one Well,

851
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,320
I'd like to break down what it means and put

852
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,960
it in plain English, and we'll use a buffalo Bill's

853
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,639
scenario that is happening to uh to kind of get

854
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:18,719
to that. We'll get to that right after this bTB

855
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,800
wood Fire Pizza.

856
00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: And grill, speaking a brunch, speaking of brunt Man, I'm

857
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:27,559
mark that place is just I mean, that's the only

858
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,280
that that's the place in Greece. Yeah, I mean it

859
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,559
really is. Yes, there's no other place better than that

860
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,119
in Greece.

861
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: The food is phenomenal. I saw I's like a museum

862
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,199
of food.

863
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,599
Speaker 1: I'm not joking, it really is.

864
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: Here's what I gotta say this, And I felt a

865
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,000
little bad, but I gotta an email, and you can

866
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,039
always email the show. You can email it to me

867
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:51,760
Bill at Bill Moran Productions dot com. But I get

868
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,599
one from a guy who goes, Hey, I took family

869
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:57,599
out to bTB, it's the best, and they said bar food.

870
00:41:57,639 --> 00:41:59,679
Well I didn't read bar food. I just saw best

871
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:01,559
and I knew I was going to see Matt and

872
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:03,599
I showed Matt, so I hadn't read the whole thing.

873
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,400
To me, I hope the bar food thing isn't insulting

874
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,519
because it's not bar food.

875
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: Well it is not bar but that's the first that

876
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:12,559
might be the first thing somebody thinks of, you know

877
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,760
what they call it because it is it is a

878
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,599
big there, it is.

879
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,559
Speaker 2: A it's a restaurant. It is with a bar it's

880
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:24,280
a The food is second to none, and god, you

881
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,119
will leave there with a doggie bag because it's so

882
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,119
big and it's and.

883
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:33,039
Speaker 1: It's very affordable. When eats, the whole thing is Kevin. Yeah.

884
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:36,760
I I don't do bad, That's true. You do finish badly.

885
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Actually, they made a personal pizza for a pizza that

886
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:41,800
I think is going to be on the menu in

887
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,639
the fall, and it's like a macaroni pizza. And I

888
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:48,679
get a message from Connie. Matt said to you liked it.

889
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,559
I was afraid you weren't gonna like it. And I

890
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,800
didn't see it till today, and I shot back, the

891
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,760
food is always I've not had a bad thing. I

892
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:59,360
never had anything there that I've gone that could.

893
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: Have been better. She's she is amazing.

894
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:03,199
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, she is that whole place, the whole

895
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,079
way they run it. And I think Matt does a

896
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:08,320
great job. But bt B, speaking of brunch, you know,

897
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,480
get out we have to do we do have to

898
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:10,960
do a brunch.

899
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,119
Speaker 1: We got to do a brunch. Yeah, I'm trying to think,

900
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:15,079
bring Joe and uh and Laura with us.

901
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 4: Yes, cast a brunch cast.

902
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: Brunch cast would be fun.

903
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: That would do a monthly Brunch Cast from b TV.

904
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,639
I got to swing it after church. Yeah, I mean,

905
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:25,920
not a bad idea.

906
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: I'll go to church with you.

907
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 4: You should, you all should, everyone listening should.

908
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

909
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:31,519
Speaker 4: By the way, there's room for you.

910
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,599
Speaker 1: They're adding seats.

911
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:36,599
Speaker 2: I like this, the brunch cast. All right, all right, this.

912
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:39,679
Speaker 1: Brunch yeah, bun. Oh, Matt's gonna love Matt love this.

913
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,599
Speaker 2: Well if we did a brunch But see, here's the

914
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:44,400
problem that I worry about. I don't want to take

915
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,559
up his space.

916
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: We put we go in that corner.

917
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but people reserve that room.

918
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,599
Speaker 1: Pievle Yeah, I know.

919
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: But people, you know, the Brunch Cast would be maybe

920
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,599
once a while and.

921
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:56,159
Speaker 1: Once a month.

922
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:59,599
Speaker 4: And won't you look, we pay for it. As long

923
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:01,800
as you pay for it, you're not taking up space.

924
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's true.

925
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:06,559
Speaker 2: So I just meant, like, when we take a table

926
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:09,440
and we do a show, we're there for a significant

927
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,519
amount of time. That's a table that they probably could

928
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:12,679
have turned over once a month.

929
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,559
Speaker 1: We're still er. Yeah, you know, Kevin order twice so

930
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,760
B TB. What fire, Basic Girl?

931
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: And by the way, early August you got the m

932
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,760
eighties and is it Zach Bryan.

933
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: And Zach Brian Band, which actually is is the guy

934
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:35,320
from Za Zach brown.

935
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:36,679
Speaker 2: Man, right, But they do a great sho.

936
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: Are they putting them outside in the that'll be huge.

937
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: She did Uh, They've did him. They've done it. This

938
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,599
is the third one, I believe, believe it or not,

939
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,079
I've never been to one. Well, let's go, let's go.

940
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:48,760
We're gonna make it happen. Uh.

941
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,880
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962
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gotta play that Hinder song. Uh yeah, I want, I want, yeah,

963
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I want you to tell me what sounds like. Okay,

964
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Froja Frozian just played Pitts at Pitts Pittsburgh.

965
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're thrown tour.

966
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people, don't mind.

967
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Speaker 4: They're they've got a little pricey. They've priced people out,

968
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even out of the fence.

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Speaker 1: I heard about that.

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Speaker 4: Eventually everybody sells out.

971
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Speaker 1: When they get older.

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Speaker 4: Of course, I love pro Jam, but that he's kind

973
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,039
of schizophrenic.

974
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: Sorry, but Tredamious White is coming back to the Buffalo

975
00:46:54,440 --> 00:47:00,480
Bills a great hornerback when he was playing and not injured.

976
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:03,440
I think the achilles injury the after that just really

977
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:08,159
hurt that guy. But he signed a contract worth six

978
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,519
point eight million dollars for one season.

979
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if he hits all the vincentives, he's going to

980
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,000
make all the money.

981
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Speaker 2: So then I go, Okay, I don't understand the salary

982
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,039
cap because it's a two point two million salary cap thing.

983
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:23,880
So I did some research on this because I go,

984
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:29,000
we hear salary cap and as fans, maybe we don't care,

985
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:32,440
maybe we do care, But if you're doing fantasy football

986
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:35,559
those things, it's nice to know, why did my team

987
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:41,159
not take this best available veteran receiver whatever? Right?

988
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:45,039
Speaker 1: You know? I watched the FARV documentary last night. Oh

989
00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:47,000
you did? Yeah, he's a dick.

990
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 4: Well I haven't seen it yeah on Netflix?

991
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did. Two quarterbacks and the Packers be

992
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:56,519
some of the worst people in the world. Yeah.

993
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,079
Speaker 2: That's interesting with the Aaron Rodgers thin because now you

994
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:03,760
get Danika Patrick sitting down on a What's your Name's

995
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,400
podcast and saying that he was emotionally abusive and it

996
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:08,840
was really hard when they're I.

997
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Speaker 1: Can see that though, Oh, I can totally see that. Totally.

998
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 4: He shut out his family. Aaron Rodgers were talking about.

999
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:18,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the salary cap.

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Speaker 2: So, Danny, you're big football guy, you know this stuff.

1001
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,559
Speaker 4: I don't know if I have a solid idea how

1002
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:26,280
the salary cap was.

1003
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: So, the salary cap is the maximum amount an NFL

1004
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:33,639
team can spend on a player's salaries in a given year. Yes, right,

1005
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,480
it's like a budget limit. Okay, However, teams can get

1006
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:42,719
creative to make it all fit. Yes, so let's take

1007
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:48,000
Tredavious White. Total potential value six point eight million dollars

1008
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:52,840
for one year base salary guaranteed money he earns from

1009
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,960
being on the team is one and a half million,

1010
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:56,679
A little over that one point five six.

1011
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,559
Speaker 4: Yes, so Susie signed the contract.

1012
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,599
Speaker 1: That's what he gets.

1013
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:03,639
Speaker 2: Signing bonus paid up front but spread out for cap

1014
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,840
purposes is a million dollars. And I think you get

1015
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,079
to go five years into the future potentially to put

1016
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:16,760
that out there. I think then he gets a workout bonus,

1017
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,039
meaning if he shows up for all the preseason stuff,

1018
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:22,239
that's an extra one hundred thousand. Other incentives based on

1019
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,400
playing time that's unknown, and the cap hit, which counts

1020
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,239
against Buffalo's budget this year is just under three million,

1021
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,119
two point eight eight million, So if a deal is

1022
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:35,599
six point eight why is the cap hit only two

1023
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:37,719
point eight eight million? And that's the part that's like

1024
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:41,519
you go, you think being a GM, like how many

1025
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:46,719
times people play armchair GM and go you can't get

1026
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,360
this guy, can't draft, can't whatever? I go, How the

1027
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,079
fuck do you do this?

1028
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,599
Speaker 4: They have to So it's a one year contract, right.

1029
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:57,440
Basically what happens is is that they kind of budget

1030
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,039
those incentives into the contract. Right if if he hits

1031
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:04,679
all of his numbers, which they never do, then they'll

1032
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,840
have to pay him the full amount of money. Right,

1033
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,280
that's that's the idea.

1034
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:11,679
Speaker 2: So they have something in there just to your point, yeah,

1035
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,000
not likely to be earned n ltbe they don't count

1036
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,800
against the cap unless he actually earns them. Yes, so

1037
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,639
they can put him the ind as not likely to

1038
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,199
be earned incentives like play fifty snaps or make the

1039
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,760
Pro Bowl. Those are called not likely to be earned, right,

1040
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,239
and they get to control when he's in and out

1041
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:32,679
of a game.

1042
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:34,159
Speaker 1: So it's sort of.

1043
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 4: Like there's a story about Alignment from Jacksonville that missed

1044
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,760
one play and he missed out on like a million

1045
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,199
dollar bonus. It was sort of a shitty thing in

1046
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,440
a way, but the players are at the mercy. It's

1047
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,239
kind of like radio, the radio. The players are at

1048
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,159
the mercy of the team. See a contract, let's say

1049
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:52,280
a five year contract. Yeah, okay, it's not a five

1050
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,920
year contract. If Bill Moran signs with the Buffalo Bills

1051
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,000
after his first big contract for five years and one

1052
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:01,679
hundred million dollars and fifty million dollars is guaranteed for

1053
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,119
those five years, the only thing that he's going to

1054
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:06,239
get is those fifty million dollars guaranteed.

1055
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: Right.

1056
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 4: So that's twenty million dollars over five years. Each year

1057
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,360
count against the cap. Right, So that's how they budget

1058
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,280
it out. If Bill Moran plays all five years, he's

1059
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,599
gonna get all one hundred million dollars. But by year two,

1060
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,079
the team's gonna be like, yeah, we need to renegotiate,

1061
00:51:21,639 --> 00:51:23,679
whether you like it or not, and here's how we're

1062
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,760
going to do it, and you have to play along

1063
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,599
with it or they could just cut you. The only

1064
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:29,960
money they're on the hook for is the guaranteed money.

1065
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,400
So after your first year, it's just basically a work

1066
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,519
agreement for the rest of the contract. They can let

1067
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:38,360
you go, but you can't go anywhere else. And if

1068
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,800
you fulfill the years of those deals, you'll make your money,

1069
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,000
but they never let you get to it. The exceptions

1070
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:49,239
are quarterbacks, offensive lineman, star receivers until they get hurt,

1071
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,079
and cornerbacks like Trey White until they get hurt. The

1072
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:55,199
only money you are guaranteed is the guaranteed money.

1073
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, because NFL teams will pro rate signing bonuses.

1074
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,840
Let's say it's a five year contract. Real, we've spread

1075
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,480
it over the five years. But even though you've got

1076
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:10,199
Tredavius White who's on a one year deal, sometimes they

1077
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:15,519
insert what's called void years, so fake years they don't

1078
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:18,480
actually happen, just to spread out the cap hit. Yes,

1079
00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:20,840
so if it's a million dollar bonus, they spread it

1080
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,519
out over let's say three years, So it's a cap

1081
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:27,159
hit of three hundred and thirty three thousand dollars per year, yes,

1082
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,760
for the next three years, and incentives don't always count.

1083
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,079
And then you've got the likely to be earned incentives

1084
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:34,159
and those are paid up front.

1085
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 4: But it's like holy shit, So like the cap like

1086
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,679
right now is like two hundred and fifty million or

1087
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,960
something like that. The bills are probably like writing checks,

1088
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,960
around three hundred to four hundred million dollars this year. Okay,

1089
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:47,840
so in other words, but that money on paper gets

1090
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,800
accounted into the future like a credit card. Yeah, that's

1091
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,719
how That's how the Eagles have always done it. New

1092
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,400
Orleans for years got away with that with Drew Brees,

1093
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:58,159
just kicking money down the road. But eventually that bill's

1094
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:00,079
got to be paid. The salary cap on, like what

1095
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:01,760
certain people say is not a myth.

1096
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:05,079
Speaker 2: So but here's the weird part. Let's say they cut

1097
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:08,719
trudeavious weight. He's only guaranteed two point two million dollars. Yes,

1098
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,639
they save six hundred and eighty thousand, Yes, against the

1099
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,280
cap I think this year if they released them early,

1100
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,639
because not all his incentives were.

1101
00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: Paid out right exactly.

1102
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: It's freaking It's so strange, the manipulation. And I guess

1103
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,480
you'd do it with your own budget, you know, you

1104
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:26,400
rob Peter to pay Paul and that sort of thing.

1105
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,199
But wow, I mean that is a headache. Yeah, like

1106
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:35,800
somebody's got to know exactly where everything is at any moment, thankfully.

1107
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,039
I mean, obviously there's computers and things, but I go, boy,

1108
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:38,519
that is.

1109
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,039
Speaker 4: Just yeah, that's why, like, if Heaven forbid something happened

1110
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:45,000
to Josh Allen this year he couldn't play again or

1111
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:46,880
something like that, the Bills will be on the hook

1112
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,880
for all that if they the Bills have to keep

1113
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,119
him under contract for five years to keep to like

1114
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,760
narrow out because if they had to release him, all.

1115
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: That money is doing the cap right now.

1116
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 4: So that's why, like you can't just release the player,

1117
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:01,159
So you know, that's why they work it out for

1118
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,079
years exactly avoidable years of stuff. The NFL salary cap is.

1119
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:06,639
It's hard, but it's not complicated.

1120
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: So yes, speaking of Josh Allen, yes, there's been some

1121
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:18,320
I saw a headline that the Bills have a concern

1122
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:22,639
about a thirteen million dollar player and his relationship with

1123
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,199
Josh Allen. And and then a sub headline in the

1124
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,480
article that I didn't read but only skimmed, was that

1125
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,320
Josh is taking on himself that they have I guess

1126
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,239
haven't worked together enough. I don't know. Dalton kinkaid thirteen

1127
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,440
million dollars the ball I watched the play again against

1128
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:48,599
Kansas City go to the Super Bowl, hits him in

1129
00:54:48,679 --> 00:54:51,559
the arm. The outside arm, the furthest away arm, but

1130
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:54,719
it hit him. There certainly a catchuple ball. You've got

1131
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,159
to catch those. I don't know how you can. He

1132
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,519
was laid out perfectly. The ball seemed to go just

1133
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:02,559
a little bit further than you thought. How Josh even

1134
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:06,480
got it there, I don't know. It's amazing. But are

1135
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:08,360
we worried about that relationship at all?

1136
00:55:08,519 --> 00:55:09,079
Speaker 1: Do we need it?

1137
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:09,599
Speaker 2: Well?

1138
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 4: Always the concern in the article, do you remember.

1139
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:12,679
Speaker 1: What the concern is?

1140
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 2: Just basically that Dalton Kincaid is dropping balls and not

1141
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,599
making Dalton kinkaid.

1142
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 4: It's so funny how the Bills will unconsciously or subconsciously

1143
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:27,320
lie to the media about things. No, here's what I

1144
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,400
mean by that. That's here's what I mean by that.

1145
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:33,440
At the end of the season, the general manager, Brandon Bean,

1146
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:36,440
the guy who is supposedly responsible for buying the groceries

1147
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,960
and picking the players, even though we know it's Sean

1148
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:42,400
mcda but the guy who wants the title general manager,

1149
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:47,960
criticized Dalton Kincaid and Keon Carr Carpenter constructively. It said,

1150
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,639
they got to get stronger, they got to get better,

1151
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:52,119
they got to get more reliable. They're both really in

1152
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,639
essence first round picks. Ke On was the second pick overall,

1153
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,840
second round pick Coleman. Yeah, but these guys have got

1154
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,960
to get better Keon. Coleman's very sloppy on the round

1155
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:03,360
tree and Kakaid had a He went from having the

1156
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,679
greatest single season is a tight end in Bill's history

1157
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,039
to having one of the worst seasons in NFL history

1158
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:15,599
for a sophomore tight end. Okay, and Josh knows that, like,

1159
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,880
he's got to somehow work with this kid, because now

1160
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,599
you have two high picks in your offense that have

1161
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,119
to produce. But they have alluded to the fact the

1162
00:56:26,199 --> 00:56:28,119
general manager is alluded to the fact that these guys

1163
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,039
need to show up. But then later on he says, well,

1164
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:34,239
you know, Dalton Kaka was working with some injuries. Man,

1165
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,599
he had some issues. But then, okay, you just said

1166
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:40,000
he needed to get stronger six months earlier. Now you're

1167
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:42,480
out on the radio criticizing radio stations for saying they

1168
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,719
need more weapons. So well, which is it, mister general manager?

1169
00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:48,800
And so yeah, is it up to the quarterback? Yeah,

1170
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,719
but it's also up to the tight end to get

1171
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,760
in shape, get better and catch the ball, because you know,

1172
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,880
the Bill's traded up for you, and you're not the

1173
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,440
first guy they've traded up for who has been a

1174
00:56:59,519 --> 00:56:59,920
let down?

1175
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: What did you say, Arkan Caine Allen like really close.

1176
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: Knocks and Alan knocks, knocks and all kat he just said, like,

1177
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,119
I haven't worked out enough with him. That's my fault.

1178
00:57:11,199 --> 00:57:12,360
I need to communicate better.

1179
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,039
Speaker 4: I need to that's the quarterback being the leader and

1180
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:15,760
taking the bull.

1181
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,519
Speaker 2: Maybe he should, maybe he'll maybe, maybe he'll do that.

1182
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 4: But it's kind of like like, but then you're young,

1183
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,320
you're tight end. Here's that yeah, And he's like, Okay,

1184
00:57:24,679 --> 00:57:26,039
I got to do my part.

1185
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:26,199
Speaker 1: Now.

1186
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,719
Speaker 4: My quarterback took the bullets for me. Now I got

1187
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,239
to show up. And I don't know if you saw

1188
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:32,800
any pictures from camp, but he's still wearing a brace

1189
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,519
Ka Kate is still wearing a brace on his leg

1190
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,400
on his knee. So I mean that injury was significant

1191
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:38,000
last year.

1192
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,119
Speaker 2: Do we How are we feeling about the season overall?

1193
00:57:41,159 --> 00:57:43,320
I mean, what do I'll start with you, Mark, because

1194
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,000
I know Danny's got some deep thoughts, but you're a fan,

1195
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:49,000
you love Josh Allen. Is there a little bit of

1196
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:54,079
a worry there? It's like there's something in me. That

1197
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,039
just sits somewhat uncomfortable with this season.

1198
00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: And I don't even know why because he didn't get

1199
00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:01,360
it because they did so good last year and they

1200
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,719
weren't supposed to maybe.

1201
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 2: Maybe and and now, I mean when Danny's like, as

1202
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,159
soon as the schedule came out, Danny said, there's not there.

1203
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,760
They're going to be favored in every game. There's no

1204
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,599
reason they couldn't go seventeen, and on paper, the expectations

1205
00:58:19,679 --> 00:58:19,920
could be.

1206
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,639
Speaker 4: In other words, I'm not saying they're going underface the

1207
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,320
reason why they can't go undefeated. Yes, in other words,

1208
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:32,280
the excuses are gone. You've had enough time to figure

1209
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,559
this out during.

1210
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: Break to go undefeated. Didn't win the superw No.

1211
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:41,159
Speaker 4: The Patriots, No. Seven, Kevin's Patriots, But go ahead.

1212
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,679
Speaker 1: Mark, I wish the Patriots and then as much to

1213
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:47,280
the Patriots, did that got the undefeated, got the undefeated season.

1214
00:58:48,239 --> 00:58:52,679
I hate, I am, I hate, I hate the team.

1215
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,840
Bone can suck it. I don't know if he's dead

1216
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,199
or now. Okay, like ten years ago, then you know

1217
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,360
he's dead, just like the fing Dolphins. But you know

1218
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,719
everybody and I and I've said this before, and I'll

1219
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:09,360
say it that I'm gonna repeat myself. So I've said

1220
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:14,000
this before. When somebody is going to break a record,

1221
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,760
the person that has the record goes and supports them.

1222
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,400
Miami Dolphins, those douche bags. When the undefeated team would lose,

1223
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,039
they'd open up champagne and start drinking and celebrating.

1224
00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: I have no problems with that.

1225
00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: I do.

1226
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 4: I have no problems with that.

1227
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: How do you have no problems with it?

1228
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 4: I've never had a problem with that. There's they did it.

1229
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: They're the only ones. Yeah, but they did it. But

1230
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,440
Brett fire was Strahan was the only one to do that,

1231
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,239
to be the sack leader.

1232
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like you're talking about the football's a

1233
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,960
team game. They went undefeated and by the way, this

1234
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:48,079
in fucking nineteen seventy two. Here's the thing. And by

1235
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:50,559
the way, and by the way, Mark's defense, they had

1236
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:53,559
one of the worst They had the worst competition of

1237
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:56,440
maybe any Super Bowl champion at that point. But do

1238
00:59:56,519 --> 01:00:00,159
you like back in those days, if you you who

1239
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,519
had the best record in football, that didn't guarantee you

1240
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:05,320
home field advantage. They had to go to Pittsburgh in

1241
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,559
the AFC Championship game a week after the immaculate reception

1242
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:13,639
and beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh, a budding dynasty which

1243
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:16,159
had yet to win the Super Bowl, and beat them,

1244
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:18,320
and they did, and then they went to the super

1245
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,880
Bowl and won that. I mean, you gotta give them

1246
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,199
credit for that. Yeah, he got it, them credit for that.

1247
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,079
Speaker 1: Oh fuck dev four fifty something years ago, for it

1248
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:27,719
didn't matter fourteen and zero.

1249
01:00:28,119 --> 01:00:28,679
Speaker 2: Screw him.

1250
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: It was a different league.

1251
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's true. Now we got three more games and everything.

1252
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:32,920
It's harder.

1253
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: It's hard. It is harder.

1254
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:34,039
Speaker 2: Now.

1255
01:00:34,039 --> 01:00:36,079
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it isn't harder. I'm saying, like, but

1256
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:37,880
you got to be able to celebrate your accomplishment. I

1257
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,000
hate I hate that team, but to bring it back

1258
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,159
to the Bills, to bring it back to the Bills,

1259
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,320
I think the reason that you have this weird feeling

1260
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,920
in the pit of your stomach, yeah, is because you

1261
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,280
were the twenty twenty one season.

1262
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:53,719
Speaker 1: Yes, that was where it ended with the thirteen seconds game. Okay, yeah, fun.

1263
01:00:54,199 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 4: So the Bills in twenty twenty, we still didn't know

1264
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,920
if Josh Allen was going to become Josh Allen. He

1265
01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:01,400
was not Josh Allen yet, and they started out four

1266
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,239
and oh and he looked like an MVP of like,

1267
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,840
this is the guy that they drafted, this is why, right,

1268
01:01:06,159 --> 01:01:07,599
And then you know, they went back and forth and

1269
01:01:07,639 --> 01:01:09,360
they get to the AFC champions Game and they lose

1270
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,719
the Kansas City but where it was like, you know

1271
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,440
what was we didn't expect them to go all the

1272
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,440
way that year. It was like a bonus to get

1273
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,719
to the ANC Championship. But you ain't until next year, bro,

1274
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,519
you ain't until next year. So they get to the

1275
01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:23,599
first game twenty twenty one, the season opener. They're going

1276
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:26,960
up against the Steelers, and neod alarmed Ben Roethlisberger at

1277
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,199
that point, and everybody said, if there was a duel

1278
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,880
in that studium, it would have come off because we're

1279
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,079
coming out of the pandemic. So everybody got to go

1280
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:36,199
to that game who wanted to? And what happened to

1281
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,519
that first game? They laid an egg and everybody's looking

1282
01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:42,960
around like, wait, what happened? How did how did how

1283
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:43,960
did they lose this game?

1284
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:45,159
Speaker 1: You know what? You know what?

1285
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: Oh that was against the Steelers. He was there, Yeah,

1286
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:47,960
the first game.

1287
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: Of the season, and it was like what happened?

1288
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 4: They end up losing five more times that you're including

1289
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,719
the Urban Meyer in Jacksonville, and it was.

1290
01:01:55,719 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: Like, wow, Josh Allen, Josh Allen.

1291
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 4: They get to the they get to the AFC, they

1292
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:04,639
get to the divisional playoff game, they have thirteen seconds left,

1293
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,239
they have Kansas City dead to rights, and somehow they lost.

1294
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: They would have won the that's why.

1295
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 4: So in the following year they basically go thirteen to three.

1296
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,440
There's no way this team's gonna and then they get

1297
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,960
a blown out by Cincinnati at home. Then the following

1298
01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:19,800
year they lose six more games. You and I are

1299
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,119
at the Monday night game. It's like, this team always

1300
01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:24,840
finds ways to lose, and Jordan Phillips goes on record

1301
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,760
to the athletic and goes, we gotta stop playing down

1302
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,559
to people. There's your answer. Then last year, unexpectedly they

1303
01:02:30,599 --> 01:02:32,480
get all the way to the AMC Championship game. Again,

1304
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,039
I'm sorry, there was that year in between, and blah

1305
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:37,320
blah blah. They lose to Kansas City at home. Then

1306
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,840
they lose to Kansas City on the road. You are

1307
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,320
waiting for a letdown because there's always been a letdown.

1308
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,960
There's always been a screw loose, and it's always been

1309
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,800
either Sean McDermott or something stupid happens where they're not prepared,

1310
01:02:47,039 --> 01:02:49,400
or Stefan Digg's flipping out of the sidelines or whatever.

1311
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:52,280
You're always ready for another shoe to drop, because guess what,

1312
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,079
another shoe always figures out a way to drop.

1313
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 6: That's why, that's why you have this is why you

1314
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,719
have this unsettled feeling in your stomach, because we've seed

1315
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,199
it all and it always shows it's enjoyable.

1316
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: I did not enjojoy.

1317
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: I did not enjoy last season at all. Okay, you know,

1318
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,679
because probably they overachieved. I know that, but I was

1319
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:20,800
waiting for the ending sucked. I was waiting for the

1320
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,639
ball to drop because Dan's right, that's just the way

1321
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:27,039
it is. But if they lose to Kansas City this year,

1322
01:03:28,119 --> 01:03:29,639
what's the status of McDermott.

1323
01:03:31,079 --> 01:03:34,639
Speaker 4: According to a friend of ours, Sean mcdermot's not going anywhere.

1324
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,760
According to you, me and Bill and the listeners. If

1325
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,679
they can't close the door this year, then they got

1326
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,599
to find somebody else who could close the freaking door.

1327
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,000
And I don't care if Bill Belichick ed Jordan Hudson

1328
01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:45,960
show up to do it. Somebody's got to freaking do

1329
01:03:46,039 --> 01:03:50,239
it all right? Well, because Josh Allen is losing light. Yes,

1330
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,079
you're twenty nine this past week, and he's gonna be

1331
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:56,960
around for a while. I know Peyton Manning didn't win

1332
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,880
until he was in the ninth season, the thirty th

1333
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,320
but come on, guys.

1334
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get there.

1335
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,119
Speaker 4: The city is perpetually getting worse, but somehow their coaching

1336
01:04:08,159 --> 01:04:09,840
staff always rises to the occasion.

1337
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: But they need to it.

1338
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: Definitely can't beat them either.

1339
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,599
Speaker 4: And the joke about the Chiefs is that this is

1340
01:04:14,639 --> 01:04:17,400
the new phrase now they play with their food. In

1341
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,519
other words, all right, it's the last two minutes of

1342
01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:22,159
the game. All right, we'll win it now if they

1343
01:04:22,199 --> 01:04:24,519
screw around. Meanwhile, the Bills are trying their damn is

1344
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:26,639
to try to win every game. Why can't you close

1345
01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:29,719
the door? Why can't you finish? That's why you have

1346
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,519
that pit in your stomach. Bill, all right, we will

1347
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:32,960
accustomed to not finishing.

1348
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:34,559
Speaker 1: We will take over here.

1349
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:38,559
Speaker 2: I'll ask this, what's one thing you've been pretending to

1350
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:42,599
know about your whole adult life? What's one thing you've

1351
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:45,480
been pretending to know about? And it maybe you know

1352
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:48,719
a little bit, but you're pretending to know more because

1353
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,280
something happened locally that that ties into getting exposed. No,

1354
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,960
not getting exposed, but something you pretend to know a

1355
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,599
little bit more about than maybe actually, well, Sammy, we'll

1356
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:02,440
get to all that right after. Have you been to

1357
01:05:02,519 --> 01:05:04,519
Leo's Bakery and Deli in East Rochester recently?

1358
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

1359
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: You gotta get there. Throw open every day so it's

1360
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,920
very convenient. It'll satisfy your sweet tooth, your sandwich cravings.

1361
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,719
Get the Cubano. Tell them Bilified said to have the

1362
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:19,079
Cubano sandwich, fresh baked bread, hand crafted pastries, deli favorites,

1363
01:05:19,159 --> 01:05:22,519
and desserts like Canoli's that'll make you rethink your self control.

1364
01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: It's all waiting for you.

1365
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,119
Speaker 2: So what's the best thing.

1366
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: About Leo's Everything?

1367
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: Check them out a deskbats drive in East Rochester because

1368
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,119
every day is a good day for Leo's. Because the

1369
01:05:34,199 --> 01:05:37,719
best thing about Leo's is everything. Connors and Ferris handles

1370
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,199
workers' comp, social security, disability and personal injury cases. Listen,

1371
01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:45,480
I get it. Workers' comp claims can be a real pain,

1372
01:05:46,039 --> 01:05:49,039
but Connors and Ferris are here to fight for you

1373
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,519
and get you the compensation you deserve. Whether you threw

1374
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:55,559
out your back on the job, slipped when you should

1375
01:05:55,559 --> 01:05:58,559
have gripped, or your boss thinks overtime means free labor.

1376
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,559
Spoiler it. They've got your back. At Connors and Ferris,

1377
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,239
with offices in New York City, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo,

1378
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:11,159
they're the go to team for getting the compensation you deserve.

1379
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,639
No gimmicks, no nonsense, just real results. Call Connors and

1380
01:06:15,719 --> 01:06:19,280
Ferris two six two comp. That's two six to two

1381
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:29,000
comp for Connors and Ferris. I'm gonna close my eyes

1382
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:29,360
so I can.

1383
01:06:31,679 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Pricado.

1384
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: It does.

1385
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it does show Pricado. Yes, you got Dannis.

1386
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 7: As soon as I close my eyes. Mark's been asking

1387
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,039
me to play this song and listen to it and

1388
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,400
tell me what you think to it. Oh my god,

1389
01:06:49,639 --> 01:06:52,760
I never ever, just I mean exactly.

1390
01:06:54,440 --> 01:07:01,599
Speaker 2: Really similar slightly more on Cape kidding your nest.

1391
01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:06,199
Speaker 1: Some song sounds when he goes in his next verse.

1392
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 5: Never really known.

1393
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 4: Saying, oh my god, sounds so sweet.

1394
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great song. Darren Danny thinks

1395
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,480
it's over the top. Dan Danny also likes toport also

1396
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:35,440
respects to fourteen You know Dolphins seventeen though fourteen you know.

1397
01:07:43,159 --> 01:07:46,000
Oh my god, Oh my god.

1398
01:07:46,159 --> 01:07:49,039
Speaker 3: For people who don't know, I gotta play this all right.

1399
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:53,519
Speaker 2: So there there's hinder. Here is one of my song

1400
01:07:53,559 --> 01:07:58,079
I really like from Joey. It's not the one I

1401
01:07:58,239 --> 01:08:01,119
was like, this might be a bad example. This is

1402
01:08:01,159 --> 01:08:02,519
a song that I wrote.

1403
01:08:03,199 --> 01:08:05,119
Speaker 1: Oh my God, makes you move.

1404
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:09,679
Speaker 2: Boat.

1405
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:10,639
Speaker 1: You see.

1406
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: It's not showing his rope. It's not as raspy as

1407
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,119
he usually sings.

1408
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:16,359
Speaker 1: That's overproduced.

1409
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,079
Speaker 3: Sounds good though rhythm.

1410
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: Tony eleven on bass doesn't.

1411
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't play out.

1412
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to go on.

1413
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: We should go see him. I'm taking change.

1414
01:08:33,079 --> 01:08:34,039
Speaker 2: I want to see you.

1415
01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: Is terrible.

1416
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:47,199
Speaker 3: This sounds like a song that you that you.

1417
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: The third graders put together for a freaking talent show.

1418
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,399
Oh that's the baselines really good?

1419
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the baseline, Yes you heard it?

1420
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony love help me out. Who was Tony was in?

1421
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: Uh?

1422
01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 2: He was Peter Gabriel's basis many years he was. Uh,

1423
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:12,239
he's an Eastman school guy. He was with Oh God,

1424
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:13,239
what was the power?

1425
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 4: No?

1426
01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:18,199
Speaker 2: Trio? That he used to tell me what we did

1427
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:21,640
an interview with him in the break room. Uh.

1428
01:09:22,079 --> 01:09:25,079
Speaker 1: He had a book okay, and I I love the interview,

1429
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:25,720
and he talked.

1430
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: About King Crimson. He was in King Crimson as well.

1431
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:34,279
He would jump in Uh, he would jump in a

1432
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:35,960
van and just go up the West coast. Like it

1433
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,239
just was about the music. He didn't care. He was

1434
01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:41,479
on private jets with Peter Gabriel and then he was Yeah,

1435
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,119
he just didn't give a ship. He just loved playing.

1436
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 4: And good for him.

1437
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah the day and he and and really cerebral guy,

1438
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:51,960
like really really deep.

1439
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 4: Was that the dude who showed up? No, that was

1440
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,720
somebody else. Uh, you know, we interviewed a guy. We

1441
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,000
interviewed Jimmy Richmond.

1442
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: Here's a here's a song. Here's a song.

1443
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna love.

1444
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,560
Speaker 1: Harkser's Family.

1445
01:10:09,159 --> 01:10:19,039
Speaker 3: I think I love you. Here we go, get ready,

1446
01:10:22,199 --> 01:10:22,960
hooro music.

1447
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,039
Speaker 1: I like. It's a little fun, a little seventies for.

1448
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 4: It's next to see, next to be.

1449
01:10:33,119 --> 01:10:34,159
Speaker 3: It's over produced.

1450
01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: He has a great voice, and I don't know why

1451
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:40,439
they over I'm not fan to tell you what I

1452
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:54,319
don't like. Laugh. It's just a guy named Joe, Just

1453
01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:56,000
a guy named there's a guardian.

1454
01:10:56,319 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 3: I know.

1455
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,119
Speaker 1: I thought something.

1456
01:10:57,359 --> 01:11:00,159
Speaker 2: It's just just a guy named Joe that we hear

1457
01:11:00,199 --> 01:11:03,239
the hinder again, but just to hear the the similarity

1458
01:11:03,319 --> 01:11:03,520
to it.

1459
01:11:07,279 --> 01:11:09,359
Speaker 3: Oh my god, am I wrong?

1460
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:15,520
Speaker 1: Danny just like, wow, yeah, my brother, it's I gotta

1461
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,159
get date my brother Dave Freda for this.

1462
01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's a it's a good one. It's

1463
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,119
a very good. Look at that, Joe you missed out.

1464
01:11:25,039 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: Well, I think they need I think they need a

1465
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,159
new singer, know correctly. Oh really, if they need a

1466
01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:32,520
new singer, he he needs good. But the problem, the

1467
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,760
problem is you put these rock guys on and all

1468
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,920
of a sudden, Pillsbury dough boy goes out and starts singing,

1469
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,399
I love Joe Ricottle. I gotta say I love Joe

1470
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:43,279
Ricattle though I'm not.

1471
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,039
Speaker 2: What's what's the one thing You've been pretending to know how.

1472
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: To do your whole life, your whole adult life.

1473
01:11:51,279 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: But do you just laughed?

1474
01:11:53,079 --> 01:11:55,520
Speaker 4: I just don't. I'm thinking I've tried to be as

1475
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:56,520
authentic as possible.

1476
01:11:57,239 --> 01:11:59,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have, as I got I gotten older, But

1477
01:11:59,319 --> 01:12:03,199
I think I uh still even to this day. I'll

1478
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:06,039
talk about cars. Guys will talk to me. I may

1479
01:12:06,119 --> 01:12:08,720
not know a lot about it. I've tried to do

1480
01:12:09,039 --> 01:12:12,560
tune ups and things and cars. I I I loved it,

1481
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,479
but I just wasn't really great at it.

1482
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:17,239
Speaker 1: I always say that would be the closest thing I

1483
01:12:17,319 --> 01:12:21,039
can think of. What about you music? Well, yeah, but

1484
01:12:21,159 --> 01:12:26,920
you did stuff. But I started to explain, like we

1485
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,079
have music rooms in there and instruments. I'm convinced I

1486
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:33,359
could play I can play those instruments. I don't and

1487
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,960
I've never picked them up, and I don't think I

1488
01:12:35,079 --> 01:12:37,680
really can. Does it make sense?

1489
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1490
01:12:38,079 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I mean I'm more

1491
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,399
of a music I mean, I consider myself, you know,

1492
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,000
I always call myself a musician, but I never really

1493
01:12:47,079 --> 01:12:47,560
want you know what.

1494
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 4: Actually, he brings up a point that with me, like

1495
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,039
I've I've never been I've never called myself a musician ever.

1496
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:54,359
Speaker 1: Why you were you? But I was?

1497
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,159
Speaker 4: But I wasn't a musician though, Like musicians understand theory

1498
01:12:57,319 --> 01:12:59,800
and all that other stuff. I could just play rhythm guitar.

1499
01:13:00,079 --> 01:13:02,199
When Steve and I played in Diiggler's Bridge, we had

1500
01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:04,159
a rule. Steve didn't sing lead. I didn't play lead.

1501
01:13:04,199 --> 01:13:06,439
I've never played a lead lick in my life. I

1502
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,319
couldn't do a solo to save my life. I don't

1503
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:10,079
know scales. I don't know any of that stuff. I

1504
01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:12,399
just knew how to play power chords and regular chords,

1505
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,800
and occasionally could pick up a bass once in a

1506
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,640
while fake a harmonica. But I really was faking it

1507
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,920
as a guitar player. I mean I could sing, but

1508
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,720
it was all just intimidation, or not intimidation, inimation because

1509
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,439
I don't I'm tone deaf. So I had to learn

1510
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:32,199
how to impersonate the singers musication sing. I don't think so.

1511
01:13:32,399 --> 01:13:33,439
My wife is a musician.

1512
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,399
Speaker 1: I visit your wife is a musician?

1513
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 4: Be sor are you?

1514
01:13:36,399 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: This is the third thing we're disagreeing with today.

1515
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 4: About each other. We're like, compliment, You're great.

1516
01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:45,239
Speaker 1: I love you, dude, you're the best.

1517
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: Seriously calling me call twenty five year old women making

1518
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:52,680
up after a fight.

1519
01:13:53,119 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember Brian Chase?

1520
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,399
Speaker 2: Yes, I still see him once a while when he

1521
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:58,159
comes back to town.

1522
01:13:58,239 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 1: When I was when I was managing Paul, when I

1523
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,079
was managing Paul Cummings and Crossroads. Yeah, he would always

1524
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:10,000
ask to go on stage and play guitar. I wouldn't

1525
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:15,520
plug it in. What Yeah, no, shut up? Yep, are

1526
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,479
you serious serious? I was there, so you go up

1527
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,920
there he's playing a guitar and it's not plugged in.

1528
01:14:22,039 --> 01:14:23,119
Speaker 2: See that's embarrassing.

1529
01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:28,079
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing. Right, look at the look on Danny's face.

1530
01:14:29,039 --> 01:14:30,399
Speaker 4: I know Bride, I know you did.

1531
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: I did.

1532
01:14:31,039 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 4: I worked with Bride's a good dude. I know that

1533
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,079
Brian Lake would do that.

1534
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1535
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 2: Well, I bring all this up because a twenty seven

1536
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:43,720
year old guy named Kevin Whitman got arrested and is

1537
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,880
facing twenty years in prison and a million dollar fine.

1538
01:14:47,319 --> 01:14:50,039
Pretend to be a lawyer, No, pretending to be a

1539
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:52,880
doctor the worst. Yeah, right here in Irondequo.

1540
01:14:53,079 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: One thing I've given advice, but I don't know. Yeah,

1541
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,840
if I'm going to fake something, that's the last thing.

1542
01:14:58,960 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 3: Could you spot a face?

1543
01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: Doctor? And I don't know because it's it's strange, Like

1544
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,520
I'm trying to wrap my head around it. I feel

1545
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,520
like he got away with it for two years.

1546
01:15:10,079 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: So what was he doing?

1547
01:15:12,039 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: How many people are really involved in this? How many patients?

1548
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,359
Was it? Family and friends? He's just reading scripts? But

1549
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,800
he's a twenty seven year old guy. I'll just give

1550
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:25,960
you my summation of the article. He's facing federal charges

1551
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:31,119
after allegedly impersonating a physician and distributing prescription drugs, primarily

1552
01:15:31,239 --> 01:15:37,319
oxy oxy conone using a stolen DEA registration number tied

1553
01:15:37,399 --> 01:15:41,199
to Strong Memorial Hospital. Over a twenty month period, so

1554
01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:46,079
almost two years. Witman reportedly issued one hundred and seventy

1555
01:15:46,119 --> 01:15:49,079
seven prescriptions to nine individuals.

1556
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something, I kind of admire this guy.

1557
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,359
Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy three of which, so it's only

1558
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,880
nine people drug dealer, one hundred and seventy three of

1559
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,239
which were for oxy so of course only four were not.

1560
01:16:03,079 --> 01:16:06,960
A raid on his home uncovered a faked, framed diploma

1561
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:10,239
for the University of Rochester Medical School.

1562
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: And I go, what is it write into?

1563
01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 2: How did you?

1564
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm watching suits right now. That's the That's the whole

1565
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:19,199
that's the whole thing.

1566
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:20,239
Speaker 3: Suits.

1567
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:21,199
Speaker 2: But he's brilliant.

1568
01:16:21,239 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 4: But he's brilliant, brilliant those of the guy's not really

1569
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:24,319
a lawyer.

1570
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 1: No, he didn't pass. He didn't pass. Uh he did

1571
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,439
for everyone everybody else. But what was the reason I

1572
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,960
gotta keep watching. I think he got in trouble. He

1573
01:16:34,039 --> 01:16:35,199
got kicked out of school with something.

1574
01:16:35,359 --> 01:16:39,359
Speaker 2: Authorities confirmed he has no medical license or legitimate medical education.

1575
01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:42,520
If convicted, he could face up to twenty years and

1576
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,399
I go, how is he is it to fake your

1577
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,680
way into authority these days? And in a way, what

1578
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,039
did I always say, Danny.

1579
01:16:49,159 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 4: Fake it till you make it, Act like you've been

1580
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,800
there what you're doing. Malcolm Gladwell tells this great story

1581
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,600
about Bernie Madoff and how madeoff got away with the

1582
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,359
Ponzi schemes that he did. There were other investing investment firms.

1583
01:17:02,359 --> 01:17:03,680
I don't know the name, so I'm not going to

1584
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,520
drop them, but just think of some big investment firms

1585
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,720
in New York, right, big hitch funds, And they were

1586
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:12,840
looking at Madolph's record and they're like, this doesn't make sense,

1587
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,880
but you know what, let's give it a shot because

1588
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,520
he looks like he knows what he's talking about. He's

1589
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,680
got all these clients, and then the rug got pulled

1590
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,560
out from under him, and they all end up losing

1591
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,920
money because they followed this dude because he appeared to

1592
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:27,279
have known what he was talking about.

1593
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and for a while he did.

1594
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 4: I mean, the New York Mets actually like made money

1595
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,319
on one of his Ponzi schemes and then pulled out

1596
01:17:34,319 --> 01:17:35,960
at the right time. And then the Mets had to

1597
01:17:36,039 --> 01:17:38,399
go and pay back all the people who got screwed

1598
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,600
by murdy Madoff. But the point is that Malcolm Bladwell

1599
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,600
suggesting is that if you present yourself as an authority,

1600
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,279
people will just go on. Why do you think cults start?

1601
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: Exactly?

1602
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,239
Speaker 2: You know? So, how could you spot a fake doctor necessarily?

1603
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,520
And nowadays people doc shot people go on and do teledoctors, Yes,

1604
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:03,439
because they want to get the lost bulner pills, weight loss. Yeah,

1605
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,560
I should have went to him ship, But I mean,

1606
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,760
who knew you could skip medical school right, steal a

1607
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:14,199
dea number and still run a practice that's more efficient

1608
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:15,600
than most cares.

1609
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like he didn't have to wait,

1610
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,680
you just got it. It's probably happen more than you

1611
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,479
think I would think it is. I mean, if they

1612
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,239
said easy for him to do it, how many other

1613
01:18:24,279 --> 01:18:24,960
people are doing that?

1614
01:18:25,079 --> 01:18:27,199
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because I go I I'm trying to think if

1615
01:18:27,319 --> 01:18:30,039
I ever encountered somebody, Well, we did. We had a

1616
01:18:30,119 --> 01:18:33,680
boss that I really liked, but he told lies about

1617
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:39,600
his past. Over compensated This guy JT.

1618
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,560
Speaker 1: John Thomas. He's no longer on the planet. He died bot.

1619
01:18:44,039 --> 01:18:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really, I really, really enjoyed better. I thought

1620
01:18:48,399 --> 01:18:49,239
he was a great boss.

1621
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,279
Speaker 4: But he told people he said that he played for

1622
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,760
Michigan State, Michigan State, Michigan State.

1623
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,079
Speaker 2: Somebody we know, I will not say the name, went

1624
01:18:58,199 --> 01:19:02,479
and did research I know and thug up who No, say,

1625
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:03,479
say who you think it is?

1626
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 1: It was uh because there was a sales guy that

1627
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,079
did the same thing that said he played baseball. Do

1628
01:19:11,159 --> 01:19:13,399
you remember that, I do. Yes. He was the one

1629
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,279
that was dating. He was the one hanging out with

1630
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:18,439
the I don't even remember, being sidekick on the show. Yeah,

1631
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,520
he was saying he had these rings.

1632
01:19:21,039 --> 01:19:30,399
Speaker 4: So I'd come who had kids who played college ball?

1633
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,159
And they said, yeah, my dad played football at Liberty University.

1634
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:35,800
And I went up and looked at the all time

1635
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,279
roster And to have played football, you've had to get

1636
01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:42,079
on the field for one down or Oh theoretically he

1637
01:19:42,199 --> 01:19:45,359
could have tried out. Okay, he just didn't make the

1638
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,279
team or whatever. But you can't if you don't make

1639
01:19:47,319 --> 01:19:48,960
the team, you can't go around telling people you played

1640
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,720
college football. Okay, because any one of us could go

1641
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,560
try out for the Buffalo Bills when they have try

1642
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,079
out days and they'll laugh you out of the room

1643
01:19:55,079 --> 01:19:56,680
and wanted to let you on the field. But the

1644
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,800
point is, well I tried over the bulls, you know.

1645
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,880
I mean that's not playing for football, so I mean

1646
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,600
it's but still it's it's one of those like gray areas.

1647
01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:09,079
Speaker 1: Paging doctor fraud, paging doctor Frodd. I mean it, douchebag Rudy.

1648
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:11,000
I mean he he got it down. I mean he

1649
01:20:11,119 --> 01:20:14,239
was off side. You know, he's off side. He gets credit.

1650
01:20:14,319 --> 01:20:15,560
They make a movie about him.

1651
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe Montana threw a lot of cold water on that.

1652
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe Montana did. He said that it didn't happen.

1653
01:20:22,199 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 4: No, he said it happened. But it was like they

1654
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,359
didn't go into Coach Divine's room and say, I want

1655
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,399
Rudy address in my spot. That never happened. Rudy's brothers,

1656
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,079
a lot of them were made up. They weren't real.

1657
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,119
And like he did sack the quarterback and he did

1658
01:20:36,199 --> 01:20:39,000
get on the field on that kickoff. But those parts

1659
01:20:39,039 --> 01:20:41,239
are true, okay, and all the other stuff. But a

1660
01:20:41,319 --> 01:20:41,920
lot of the other.

1661
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,119
Speaker 2: Stuff, but like like the Charles Dunton story, Charles.

1662
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Charles Dutton character was made up. Yeah, I

1663
01:20:47,279 --> 01:20:48,640
mean it was just like he got it, so they

1664
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:49,680
had to make a movie out of it.

1665
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just.

1666
01:20:50,319 --> 01:20:51,399
Speaker 4: Trying to sell popcorn.

1667
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,119
Speaker 1: Yeah they did, but it's an inspirational movie.

1668
01:20:53,239 --> 01:20:56,119
Speaker 4: Man. I get teared up watching Rudy and then Joe

1669
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:58,000
Montana goes out to Stan Patrick and says, well, a

1670
01:20:58,039 --> 01:20:59,479
lot of that stuff didn't really happen.

1671
01:21:01,319 --> 01:21:05,159
Speaker 1: That's all right. So Rudy's been a fraud all his life. Yeah, yeah,

1672
01:21:05,239 --> 01:21:05,560
that's it.

1673
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 4: Because people who have made something out of very little.

1674
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,720
I'm not going to say any names here, I'll tell

1675
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,960
you off air, but there's one guy who has made

1676
01:21:17,119 --> 01:21:22,520
like a a life coaching career out of an incident

1677
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,359
that happened, and it's really it was just kind of

1678
01:21:24,399 --> 01:21:24,840
a chance.

1679
01:21:25,039 --> 01:21:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1680
01:21:25,399 --> 01:21:28,199
Speaker 2: Well, hey, dad, take advantage of what you can. I mean,

1681
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,960
I don't know if you got the motor to go

1682
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,199
and do it. It's uh, it's something. It's just it's

1683
01:21:34,319 --> 01:21:38,079
weird that you would. I'm going if I'm gonna fake

1684
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:43,159
being something, I feel like it would be easier to

1685
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,760
fake being a lawyer than it would be a doctor.

1686
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 4: But because you can talk, you could be.

1687
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,359
Speaker 2: But either way disrespect to people who no, no, I know,

1688
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,840
but either way, like I'm going Okay, this guy clearly

1689
01:21:57,079 --> 01:21:59,680
was doing it for friends and family or somebody. If

1690
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,640
there's only nine people, so he but and.

1691
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 4: We won't bill your insurance.

1692
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: Well, the U of R. Somebody got fired because the

1693
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,680
DEA number to get out is like terrible, right, and

1694
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,880
I know what that is. That's all your access to it.

1695
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,720
I don't know what it really stands for either, but

1696
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,920
obviously it's important and you can't get write prescriptions without it.

1697
01:22:20,079 --> 01:22:22,800
So you steal that number. You get that so somebody

1698
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,640
there some kind of cybersecurity thing whatever happened. But you're

1699
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:27,399
smart enough.

1700
01:22:27,319 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 4: To do that.

1701
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,359
Speaker 2: I just wish you could use your powers for something

1702
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,439
more positive. But I go, wouldn't it? I don't know.

1703
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:36,960
Let's say you were going to go you know what.

1704
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:38,119
Speaker 1: Fuck it.

1705
01:22:38,279 --> 01:22:41,039
Speaker 2: I have waited an energent care for hours. I sat

1706
01:22:41,039 --> 01:22:44,199
in an emergency room for nearly two days. You know,

1707
01:22:44,399 --> 01:22:45,960
I'm going to open my own thing. I'm going to

1708
01:22:46,039 --> 01:22:46,800
give great practice.

1709
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:47,159
Speaker 1: Fuck this.

1710
01:22:47,279 --> 01:22:49,279
Speaker 2: I'm as smart as these doctors. You know. I got

1711
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,640
sixteen hundred of my SATs. These guys don't know whether

1712
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,359
to do it, and then you go in there. I

1713
01:22:53,399 --> 01:22:57,039
would be so worried. I'd be looking at WebMD trying

1714
01:22:57,079 --> 01:22:57,720
to figure.

1715
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,279
Speaker 4: Out now ais are you know yeah?

1716
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 2: Or ask ai yeah yeah, and then I bet you

1717
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,920
could figure it out sort of yourself. Well you know,

1718
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,840
and then you just going to confidently talk.

1719
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we mentioned earlier in the program today

1720
01:23:11,119 --> 01:23:14,039
like the only fans thing, right, I mean, YouTube is

1721
01:23:14,119 --> 01:23:18,439
loaded with self proclaimed experts on quote unquote everything, okay,

1722
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,439
And the funniest part is when they get called out

1723
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,079
for their bs, Like all right, here's an example. I

1724
01:23:23,119 --> 01:23:25,319
forgot the guy's name, but remember when Josh Allen threw

1725
01:23:25,359 --> 01:23:27,960
that ball the Dalton Concaid that he dropped. Yeah, okay,

1726
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:30,640
So this guy, this this esteemed film guy who was

1727
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,520
on all these shows and all the local guys just

1728
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,560
love them. They think he's fantastic. Dumb film He goes

1729
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,439
on and he says, all Josh had to do was

1730
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,920
turn around and throw the ball over to Khalil security.

1731
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,920
You could have gotten the first down at the bottom

1732
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,359
of the screen and he would have had to turn

1733
01:23:46,399 --> 01:23:48,600
his body that couldtort to do it. Even Josh Allen

1734
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,199
couldn't do this. I guess who called him out, Our

1735
01:23:51,239 --> 01:23:53,920
old buddy Ryan Fitzpatrick. He goes, hey, it's pretty easy.

1736
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,800
To sit there in your swivel chair, but explain to

1737
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,279
me how he's gonna do this. Yeah, and he got exposed, Okay,

1738
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,079
and he kind of gone into a little bit of

1739
01:24:01,119 --> 01:24:03,159
a hiding since then, Why because he doesn't know what

1740
01:24:03,239 --> 01:24:04,039
he's talking about.

1741
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:06,560
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's this doctor got busted.

1742
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 4: But people do that people, right, But my point is

1743
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,840
that these people are everywhere. Yes, now, doctor, I mean

1744
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,800
that's like the worst thing. But like I think the people,

1745
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,800
I don't think he was. He doesn't sound like he

1746
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,039
was practicing like like see like part of the U

1747
01:24:20,079 --> 01:24:22,159
of our network. Okay, I don't think you've got a

1748
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:24,359
my chart account. I think he was just like for

1749
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,880
friends and family, you need oxy, I'm your guy. What

1750
01:24:27,039 --> 01:24:29,920
could you pull off if you need I pull off

1751
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,560
to be an imposter like a minister?

1752
01:24:33,319 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, not credential right, didn't go to theology theological schools.

1753
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 4: Ultimately, at the end of the day, he basically just

1754
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,119
like do the Billy Graham thing everything.

1755
01:24:43,239 --> 01:24:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like you could. I'm not I'm not.

1756
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm not discrediting billion I'm just saying the tough part

1757
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,119
is also like we're not saying these jobs are easy,

1758
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,479
but you could sort of imposter it if you were confident,

1759
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,279
kind of got the here's the gest that beats down

1760
01:24:59,319 --> 01:25:02,640
to it. If you how to do things. And I wonder, like,

1761
01:25:03,039 --> 01:25:05,439
could you be a teacher. That's I was just thinking, yeah,

1762
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,479
like could you be a teacher at a certain grade level?

1763
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, kindergarten cop, you know what I mean?

1764
01:25:11,039 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: Like I but you'd have to be an authority, talk

1765
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,960
your talk, do all that. I think you could probably

1766
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:18,560
pull it off.

1767
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: I think. But I think they're so desperate for teachers

1768
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,640
they'd probably let me right like the other way.

1769
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 2: I mean, if you were doing a good job, if

1770
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,560
you raise test scores, if you actually taught the material.

1771
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they're that's what they're doing with

1772
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,960
teachers assistants. You know, Yeah, it's hard, it's it is.

1773
01:25:35,159 --> 01:25:37,399
Speaker 2: I'll say that it's a hard job in that I

1774
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,760
can't imagine the pressures and they gotta read. I wish

1775
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:40,840
test scores and all this stuff.

1776
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 1: I wish I went to school for being a teacher.

1777
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,159
Speaker 2: Really, once you try to go back now one year,

1778
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,880
a lot of times they'll pay for you just school

1779
01:25:49,359 --> 01:25:53,079
one year for I think if teacher assistant, I would think, no,

1780
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,720
if you have a bachelor's. I don't have a bet

1781
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,479
Oh okay, so you need to get a bachelor's. I

1782
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,399
think it's like one year and they'll pay for the masters,

1783
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,159
but you got to work for them.

1784
01:26:03,119 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: And they'll take me freaking years. I'll be freaking seventy

1785
01:26:06,039 --> 01:26:09,439
by the time and maybe not, maybe not.

1786
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,399
Speaker 2: You know what, you go on only fans and find

1787
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,000
some chick to encourage you to do that. You'll be

1788
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:17,760
just fine. I lost my I lost my I know

1789
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:18,319
you forgot.

1790
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: You lost your cheerleader, You lost your cheerleader. All right,

1791
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,640
we will close it out.

1792
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's salary cap training camp coming.

1793
01:26:28,119 --> 01:26:29,119
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks will be here.

1794
01:26:29,239 --> 01:26:30,199
Speaker 2: Danny's not happy.

1795
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: About the hard gume and just what We're gonna go

1796
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,720
get tickets to the Killers first? Can you do that, dude?

1797
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,039
Speaker 4: It's so expensive. It's it's ridiculous now. Concert prices are

1798
01:26:42,079 --> 01:26:43,000
so ridiculous, you know.

1799
01:26:43,079 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: Darren Waald, those guys are gonna get on the stage. Yeah, guys,

1800
01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:52,640
Buffalo players. Oh yeah, so you think because they always

1801
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:58,800
play it, Josh I even made that connection. Is a

1802
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:03,119
coincidence that training camp at the same time the Killers

1803
01:27:03,119 --> 01:27:06,600
are playing playing here? Is that a coincidence?

1804
01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Where are they playing back?

1805
01:27:10,199 --> 01:27:10,359
Speaker 1: Oh?

1806
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:11,079
Speaker 4: I love that?

1807
01:27:11,399 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: And they're in fairports, you know? Yeah?

1808
01:27:14,119 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 2: Right, all right, Well for the soldier sing out there

1809
01:27:19,039 --> 01:27:21,399
living living best like Oh, we gotta call it three

1810
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,880
three one five girl, I don't think I have a

1811
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:29,079
numbered ship for Dan, who's always got the inside.

1812
01:27:29,119 --> 01:27:31,279
Speaker 1: I love the passion when it comes to sport. I

1813
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:32,640
just I love it.

1814
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,079
Speaker 4: I get so much hate for it. Why from an

1815
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,000
I'll just say it. I can set it, I could

1816
01:27:37,039 --> 01:27:37,359
setch it.

1817
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

1818
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: We're laughing our asses because it's, you know, passion. Where

1819
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,039
was the last time I was wrong about plancked.

1820
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 3: Your flag in there?

1821
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I said No. One fourteen in all

1822
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:50,560
freaking knocked dolphins.

1823
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 4: He's wrong about that.

1824
01:27:53,159 --> 01:27:55,279
Speaker 1: I'm Bill Burran. We'll see you tomorrow.