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Speaker 3: You're great. Live from the Mouse He's at Disneyland. Ladies

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and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome to Reno, mahe to the show Reno. How's

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the Mouse Street again?

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Speaker 4: Actually it's been awesome. The mouse was today. It was

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a good day. Right when we walked in, she got

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a picture with Mickey and Minnie right off the back.

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So that was a that was a big win.

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Speaker 3: That is a big win to get the pictures out

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of the way.

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Speaker 1: Now, are you the type family that like brings in

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food with you and like drinks with you? Or I

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guess you could just fill up your water bottles right

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there at the at Disney then, But like, do you

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bring in the food or do you buy the food there?

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Speaker 4: There's only one food I get here, or I guess too,

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I do the pretzels, the garlic pretzels, and the churros.

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So that's all the two things I miss when I

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leave here. Wait.

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Speaker 1: Wait, how many pretzels and churros do you eat in

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a day at Disney? Like a typical typical day at Disney,

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how many churos and how many pretzels are you eating.

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Speaker 4: Each day? I'm probably two of the pretzel, the garlic

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cheese pretzels, and then about four churros.

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Speaker 3: Throughout the day.

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Speaker 4: So sometimes the double fisting two churros and it's just

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it's all bad. But it's the reason why I'm about

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three hundred pounds right now and looking forward to being

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all time center at the Alumni game on Friday.

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Speaker 1: So hey, man, I'm excited to see in your I think,

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are you team Royal or team Navy this year? Because

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I feel like you've swapped teams a lot.

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Speaker 4: I'm with Bobko, I'm with Bosco this year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Tambosco this year. Okay, well, yeah, be all time centator.

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Speaker 1: You still got to go run a route, right, You

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got to run that corner pylon route, you know, just

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for good old time sake.

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Speaker 4: Bro run man, there's no running in this body.

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Speaker 3: Hey man.

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Speaker 1: Though, Like the Alumni day, right, the Alumni game and

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all of this, I mean, you're an alumnus, you come

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in like, the fans love it, right, You've got some

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great feedback from the fans from as a former player.

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You know, how enjoyable has it been for you to

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kind of get out there, interact with the fans, come

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back to the school that you love.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just the energy of the fans bringing

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to the stadium. It's getting back in Lovell Edwards Stadium.

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the fans just kind of gives you that taste that

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you had decades ago when you used to play in

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front of all of them. It's it's really special for

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the players. That part. I really enjoy also to have

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my kids come and just get to feel a little

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bit of what we got to feel when we played.

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And so it really is a special time for the

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family and We're all's grateful for Colonne and bringing us

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back and even Jack the Mooney all the work he

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does to make us former players feel special and and

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they you know, it's a whole day event, so it's

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it's a fun deal for us former players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had discussions with uh with a lot of

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different players about the things that he does a great

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job right about taking care of the former players.

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Speaker 3: But you know, there's been.

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Speaker 1: Times in the past where it seems like there was

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maybe a little bit of a gap the outreach Varsity Club,

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you know, just benefits and and things of that nature

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for like the former b y U football players. And

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I think Bronson Kafusi is actually putting together an alumni

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group now.

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Speaker 3: Has he reached out to you all about that?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Bronson is He's been a catalyst with that, done

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such a good job of keeping keeping all of us informed.

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to keep all the former former players just feeling the love.

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And so you know, Lanni just does such a great

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job with that.

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Speaker 1: No, and Kilanie's really embodied that. I think that that's

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what really changed when Kalani came to the Helm as

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the head coach. I was chatting with some of those.

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There's always a chatting with a few former players. There's

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always a tough transition from being a football player to

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getting into real life and real jobs and real work

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and all that stuff and making that transition. I know,

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you went to the NFL, but eventually you had to

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go into like the the corporate space, entrepreneurial space. You've

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done a lot of things after your NFL career. What

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can be done to help ease and maybe make that

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transition a little bit smoother for the former Cougars.

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Speaker 3: That you know have to make.

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Speaker 1: You know, our identity sometimes are intertwined with being a

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football player.

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Speaker 3: Now we got to go find that new identity.

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Speaker 4: You know. I think I think it's it's on both sides.

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I think it's one of those things that it needs

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to be not only just you know, the school doing

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their part, which with Kilane Jack, the Mooney guys like Bronson,

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they're doing such a good job from BYU side, but

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also for former players to always try to find ways to,

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you know, for whatever reason, just just to be able

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to come through and put yourself out there to support

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the program wherever. You know, it's like that's they list

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where you stand. And I think if there's anything a

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former player can do is just continue to promote BYU football.

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One of my favorite things to do is wear my

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BYU gear here at Disneyland and just count how many

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BYU and people are out here. And it's always fun

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when you hear people say go Kobs when you walk

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by them, and so that it's just little things like that,

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you know what I mean. Like it goes a long

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ways in supporting the program, supporting what we do. And

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I don't know, I think there's a lot of different

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ways to but it's gotta be both sides. You know,

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school does their thing and former players just finding ways

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to get involved. And there is there's plenty of ways

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again involved. And I bet you Kalani is the most

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accessible head d one college football coach there is.

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Speaker 3: I agree to with that, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Reno mahe former b YU great talking some ball, talking

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alumni game here on your Utah ESPN Radio network. Kialani

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just signed a ten year extension. Right, He's going to

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be the He's gonna be truly the Polynesian level. He

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promised us that back in twenty sixties, said I just

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want to be the Polynesian level edwards. Do you think

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he coaches as long as Leavell did at BYU. He's

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in you know, he's got a decade. He's extended to

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another decade. How many years do you think Klooney can last?

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I mean the Paul Ney's and level he's got to

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get up to, like twenty eight years.

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Speaker 4: I think he could totally do it. I think he's

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willing to totally do it. And you know, recently he's

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been an example to lose some weight to me, and

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you know he can stay healthy. He will. I think

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he will be able to. But it's just he he

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he's doing it for the right reason. And that's the

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best part about k is that he just embodies everything

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that lovel stood for.

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Speaker 3: They have no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: I excited for that with that with the future being

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so like stable, right, and we talked about the glory days, right,

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you were part of the an awesome you know, I

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would say an awesome time in BA football history. Two

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thousand and one was one of the best seasons in

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BWA football history.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You had the eighties and nineties, though those were great.

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lot of football games. Now we're into the twenty twenty

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Kilani era and we've won a lot of double digit

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present day, and you compared to the other successful eras, like,

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how does it stack up?

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Speaker 3: Do you think.

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Speaker 4: It's again, I think it's right up there with the

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best of them. And I think some of the biggest

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tell sign was that transition when coach Wick went to

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Michigan and how many players stayed they ended up jumping

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ship and the fact that all these players that everyone

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assumed would jump ship they all ran it back and

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then and then to pick up some of the big

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pieces we picked up in the portal. I think that's

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that's the tell side of where a program is by

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the caliber players you're keeping in your program and the

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caliber players you're going out and get. And so I'm

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super excited for what Klanie is doing.

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Speaker 1: Uh the nil transfer portal era, I think is also.

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Speaker 3: Aid and supported b YU. Right. Once upon a time,

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it was improper, it was illegal to to to.

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Speaker 1: Pay players and and I think I think b YU

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fans and Latter day Saints. They've always had resources. But

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they are also law abiding people. They are letter of

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the law. They read their.

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Speaker 3: White hand Book on their missions.

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Speaker 1: They they got to abide and so the NCAA rules

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did not allow them to do it, while other like

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SEC Big tenscles they may have been cheating and circumfending

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the rules.

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Speaker 3: Now we got an equal playing field. Does that make.

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Speaker 1: BYU uh, you know and and Kilane operating under those rules?

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Does that make BYU a premier top twenty five, top

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ten type of college football program?

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Speaker 3: With all things being considered.

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Speaker 4: Without a doubt. The nice thing is you can always

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measure that, right. I mean, they have those recruiting places

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where you rank after the recruiting season, so it's you

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can totally measure it. Now. I think there's something fishy

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going on in that world. Whenever a kid is deciding

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between BYU and you know, some of these other schools,

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and then they end up deciding all BYU and then

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the somehow their stars and rankings changed. I'd definitely like

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to see what's up with all that. But outside of that,

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I think BYU is doing an amazing job. Coach Anderson

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the recruiting department with Vince Sayula and those guys just

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you know, they're they're killing it. And you continue to

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get in those great players. Man, you you're like coach.

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stunt players, right right.

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Speaker 1: I mean goodness, Hey, Rena, I'm gonna bring up a

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conversation that we had probably a decade ago. We were

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at Thanksgiving point golf course. We were talking about recruiting. We

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were talking about like investing in like all these trainers, right,

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you know, specializing you see a lot of You saw

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a lot of dads.

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Speaker 3: You've seen a lot of dads.

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Speaker 1: Parents over the years invest a ton of money in

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their kids so they can get a scholarship. At that time,

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it like we were kind of discussing, like is it

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worth the the bang for your buck?

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Speaker 3: Is the bang worth your buck? Right?

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Speaker 1: And like at the time we were kind of conversing

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and concluded like a lot of these guys aren't getting scholarships.

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They're gonna end up wasting money. And even then when

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you get scholarship, how much money are you actually getting

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back for that scholarship And it could be a waste

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of funds now in the NIL era, I mean the

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money that's being dolled out. I mean you invest, If

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you invest one hundred thousand dollars into the development of

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your kid and he becomes a quarterback, he gets that money.

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Speaker 3: Back year one. Yeah with right, do you remember that combo?

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Do you remember that combo we had?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Absolutely, Now, yes, you're right. Then the issue is

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it's it's almost like a lottery now where it is

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so much harder to be one of those nil kids

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versus a kid that would have typically got a walk

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on or you know, a preferred or even a fifty

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three mans scholarship because of the portal. You're not just

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dealing with you tall kids and getting a D one

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scholarship and then getting an NIL deal. You're dealing with

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sec kids that are jumping in the portal with big,

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big ten kids, big twelve like you're dealing with the

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whole country and that portal versus before you know, you

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take the top thirty forty kids in Utah that are

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going to go play D one somewhere. That ain't the

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case no more so. It's a tough it's a tough challenge. Yeah,

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there's money there, but there's also a lot more kids

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and all across the country that's going after those pops.

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed they are. It makes it, It does make

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it a whole lot more competitive. I hope the JUCO

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ranks end up expanding, Like, I really think there's a

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model for the JUCO to really see an emergence of

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prosperity because you get like you're schooling paid for or

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you get like some subsidy. Right, you played juco ball

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for a year. I played Juco ball for a couple

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of years, and uh, I think that that's a really

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good option because those those those uh those jucos that

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could become really good football.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's not even just I mean, I don't know

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if this still holds up. You can tell me if

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it does or not, but it doesn't count anymore.

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Speaker 1: Well to be determined on whether it will or not.

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I think that's like by state, but you're right, like

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it could very well be because it's not NC double

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A sanction. It's NJC double A, right, this is not

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n C double A. It's it's JUCO.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, if you can go play the

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some of those semi pro league can still come play

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college sports. I mean, who knows what. You can still

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play and continue to come play.

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Speaker 1: You can play seven years, Bro, you're making a that's

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a profession, man, that's a You get your schooling a

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little bit paid for. You get your associates, transfer up

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to NCAA, and you get five for five is what

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they're working on. Now, you get your red shirt, you

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get and you get four more years. That's you can

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make a lot of money in five years playing college football.

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Speaker 3: That's professional.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you might as well.

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Speaker 1: Would you have stayed another year at BYU if you

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if you're getting paid what some of these guys are

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like punt return wide receiver that you know that you were.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're pulling in at least a mill. You're

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pulling in at least a mill. If you come back.

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Speaker 4: All day long, you're coming back like someone like me

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that didn't get drafted. I'm yelling and absolutely enjoying that nil.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Well, Renal, can't wait to watch

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you at the alumni game. Enjoy the rest of the mouse.

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Be safe and uh, always appreciate our conversations. Always learn something.

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You always provide some great perspective. Man, Thanks so much.

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