Speaker 1: All start Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn. Let's go, let's go from a championship
backfield to your morning drive.
Speaker 2: Hem'sday.
Speaker 3: Hester and Hester got it five out a five.
Speaker 1: You're locked in to off the Bench.
Speaker 4: Well control the.
Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge Studio. Here's
Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: Welcome in oh TV. Here on this Tuesday morning.
Speaker 2: Let's go. If you want it, you can get it.
Let me know.
Speaker 3: That was the great trick Daddy that said that. Jake, Flynn,
Alandra and Tata all here with you on this Tuesday morning.
Energy this morning. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 2: The juice than yesterday.
Speaker 3: Monday, after a long extended break, after a holiday, it's
a tough show. Yeah, it's a tough show. What feeling
the best? You know what though, yet got some medicine
in me, got a Tuesday, not a Monday in me.
Got media days on the horizon, We get a chance
to get boots on the ground, hang out with the brethren.
Feeling pretty good.
Speaker 5: Good, Yeah, I told you all yesterday like yesterday was
one of those days where I mean I usually have
a little trouble with this, but I just couldn't find
some words.
Speaker 2: Yesterday I was looking for him. I was like Indiana
Jones searching for his next prize.
Speaker 5: I was like, man, I'm smart enough, I know these words.
Just can't find them. They're locked back in there in
my brain somewhere.
Speaker 4: Can I count the number of breaks when we took
commercial break? You were walking out of the room. You're like,
God's wards are hard today.
Speaker 2: Words are tough. Words are tough. You know a good thing?
You know, I don't have a job on radiose. Words
are tough.
Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes you're searching. Sometimes you're trying to find it.
You know what you want to say, you want to use.
Maybe a word it's a little bit bigger, outside of
your your norm, outside of your comfort zone, and that
word just keeps escaping you. It's just like it just
continues to run away from you. Yeah, those big words,
sometimes they're elusive. Sometimes they don't have to be big.
Sometimes they can be everyday words. But we're here, we
made it.
Speaker 6: Any word would work.
Speaker 5: Day two, Tuesday, How are we feeling good? I'm great,
I feel really good. All right, Yep, woke up with
a little bounce on my step this morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Wait, I was asking you, like before the show, right
about Tour de France because it started this weekend, and
so then I look it up just to get more info.
Speaker 6: One of them crashed and is out the race. Yeah,
so he's like in the hospital.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so it's crazy is he telling us about?
Speaker 6: It's Jasper broke his collar bone.
Speaker 5: So these guys, So these bikers, these bikers have really
strong legs, but their upper bodies really frail.
Speaker 2: So like if they.
Speaker 5: Fall, if they fall like a minimum of like six
inches off the ground, their snap.
Speaker 6: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So yes, for Phillipson, one of the top sprinters,
I think.
Speaker 6: He won four kilometers away from the finish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 5: He won stage one act So if you win stage
one of the tour, like you, you automatically get the
yellow jersey for the next day and that's the sign
the mile de joan of the leader of the Tour
de France. So like a lot of times a sprinter,
which yes, for Phillipson is a sprinter, will get the
yellow jersey if the first stage is a sprint stage,
which he did, which is a cool it's a cool honor.
He will never hold on to it a sprint will
never hold on to it. But they get to wear
it for a day, maybe a couple of days.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm into it now.
Speaker 5: So now so right now, yellow Jerseys, Matthew Vanderpolt So
he's the GC leader after stage three.
Speaker 3: Any Americans, Yes there, that's a very American.
Speaker 2: Belgium, I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yes, Actually one of the top teams Youmbavisma.
Speaker 5: I don't know anymore, Visma uh is one of their
top uh uh domes sticks is what they call, like,
so every team has one leader and everybody else is
kind of a domestick that helps him and guides him
and leads him and like clears the path for him.
One so one of the top writers is a h
is an American. I believe it's Tate. Let's see, I
can't remember his name off the top of my head.
We'll think of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're doaled in.
Speaker 5: It's challenging to watch right now because usually in the
past it's been on NBC Sports, but NBC Sports is
not a thing anymore.
Speaker 2: So you have to watch it on Peacock. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But the problem is is, like when I get to
the office. I want to put it on as soon
as I get to the office so I can kind
of like watch it throughout the day and kind of
tune in and out of it. It's like one of
those like background fodder noises things that you can kind
of get like dip in and out of, kind of
like the NFL Draft. But it has to the actual
coverage has to end and be over for like an
hour for NBC Sports to let you go back and
watch it from the beginning. That's so yeah, it's dumb,
so like you can't even start it to like.
Speaker 3: Is there like a this man really does have it
up on his computer?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Is there like a women's version of this? Or is
it like too hard?
Speaker 2: No? But there is. There's actually a you're trying to bike? No,
I don't know if it's the same route or whatever.
Speaker 4: Absolutely do they say when they take off, They're like,
let's bike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're asking about it. It is.
Speaker 5: It's twenty one stages. Yeah, they get two or three
rest days those twenty one stages, and almost every stage
is over.
Speaker 2: One hundred mile long.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is like they're going uphills, they're doing
sprint every stage.
Speaker 6: I mean they're literally mountains in France.
Speaker 2: Like it is a it's a the Alps mountains.
Speaker 6: They go through the Alps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah they go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's a couple of mountains they do every year,
but then they do different mountains.
Speaker 6: That's real athletic.
Speaker 2: So, like the mountain.
Speaker 5: Stages are super exciting because that's when like the GCS,
the leaders, like that's when the top leaders attack each other.
Speaker 2: That's when like that's.
Speaker 6: Where do they try to like knock each other off
their bikes.
Speaker 5: No, but in sprints you will see them like head
button and like shoulder and each other to like get
lanes for that's crazy.
Speaker 6: No, they don't, like what if they like chuck someone
off a mountain on accident?
Speaker 2: Do you remember that.
Speaker 5: Old video game was called Watch Road Road Rage or
road Rash. Remember it was a motor motorcycles and you
had like chains and whips and you're hitting the people.
Speaker 6: That sounds fun.
Speaker 3: Now you can implement that into the tour I'm in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, have y'all did y'all start? I told you all
to watch the documentary they're starting it. Anybody.
Speaker 6: I was kind of busy.
Speaker 4: I actually don't remember this conversation. Where is the doctor?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Netflix?
Speaker 5: It's like it's like one of those good like sports
f ones and like full swing.
Speaker 2: It's just like that. What's it called. I don't even know.
Speaker 4: Wow, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a toward France documentary. There's one.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, but like if I'm trying to search it,
let's ride.
Speaker 5: That's okay, all right, it just takes one little quick google.
It's called Tour de France Unchained.
Speaker 6: No, it's not unchained.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah.
Speaker 7: Netflix has really good sports documentaries.
Speaker 3: A little clip of the the Joe Burrow quarterbacking to
pick out his clothes.
Speaker 6: Wait, is he going to have the docs?
Speaker 2: So they're they're bringing QB back on their back.
Speaker 4: It's him Golf Cousins again for some reason.
Speaker 3: Hey, whoa because it's Kirkans.
Speaker 4: Okay, Cousins is nice, he's very boring and he's not
a starter anymore.
Speaker 3: So I just kind of Joe.
Speaker 6: Golf, Jared kirk Cousins, and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4: There might be another one, but those are the three.
Speaker 3: I think I think you were sold at Burrow. Yeah,
let's don't. Let's don't play games.
Speaker 4: I think we all know the response was, Borrow has
a documentary, so I think I think she doesn't really
need to know.
Speaker 3: The other true I know l T Ladaian Thomlinson is
he's getting a Netflix doc as well. I don't know how.
Speaker 2: Many episodes it is for what maybe like six?
Speaker 3: I think just like his his career, his path and
how it all played out and everything. So do you know
that's coming out. That's just that's his closest we'll ever
get to having Fullback. That's his close because I'm sure
he's gonna talk about but.
Speaker 2: We got to make Fullback. We can make our little
parody I have.
Speaker 3: So I've talked about that is an idea I've talked about.
Don't call it a comeback, as an idea, like I
really think that that show could really work. It was
You've got a group of twelve players that are all
no names from the NFL now, not superstars, but no
names like guys that played were vested veterans in the
NFL and a casual fan wouldn't know, oh yeah, I
remember that guy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You get twelve of those guys, all right, and they
got to be retired for like two years at least
two years, and you give them three months to get ready,
and during that get ready period, you're filming all of
these older players that a lot of people know and
love and whatever. And then you have the finale, right,
so you're leading into them working getting back into it,
and the finale is whoever wins the competition gets a
one year guaranteed UFL contract guaranteed like half million dollars,
they get the UFA.
Speaker 2: They all have to be the same position.
Speaker 3: Then No, it's like it's like just different competitions will
come up with some crazy ideas. Really, no, lineman, no
offense to your linement.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 3: Probably skill players, probably a lot of running backs, linebackers, receivers.
Speaker 4: You may not have watched this. Michael Irvin did this
one time.
Speaker 3: It was average Joe's though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
talking about now. I'm talking about like Bobby Carpenters in
my remembers in maybe these two goofballs are in the show.
Speaker 4: Andrew Hawkins was on NFL Network now and did that
like he got he made it from that show. So
it was it was basically like he did like college
guys that had either gotten heard or passed over, they'd
never made it to the NFL before.
Speaker 3: Which was cool.
Speaker 2: Watched he took like ten.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys Facility Final four and then like Jerry picked
one at the end and like they but.
Speaker 3: This is like you maybe you know these names. Yeah,
I hate Jarvis Landry, Like jar had a great career,
would be one kind of you know, been out for
the game for a little bit. Give him a couple
of months ago, train a reality TV show. Hey he's
got it. Hey you got to add some entertainment. Yeah, right,
don't call it a comeback and you get.
Speaker 2: Your boy can still spend it. I hate to say,
I hate to say this, and.
Speaker 3: You get you get half a million dollars?
Speaker 2: Do you? You hate to hate to say to say that.
Y'all if it's a if it's a skills competition, y'all
got no shot.
Speaker 3: So that's my pilot. If you want to pick it up,
hit us up.
Speaker 4: The shows executive producers, Yeah, the shows they pick up,
this would be way better.
Speaker 7: Executive is like more money than just a regular right
stock in.
Speaker 2: What kind of drama are we creating? Though?
Speaker 3: Like what kind of us where a b comes in? Yeah,
ab uh, you know Bobby Carpenter in the weight room
trying to Max and doesn't hit his goal weight, Like
that's gonna be he's making appearance.
Speaker 5: You throw everybody on a UFL training camp or off season.
Speaker 6: We put them all in the same house because the
drop in.
Speaker 5: The same house, you got to go to different teams,
back up their lunch, and go to practice.
Speaker 6: How about petition.
Speaker 5: Definitely gonna be lots of injuries, a lot of injuries,
a lot of achilles.
Speaker 7: Maybe it's because I'm watching uh Love Island right now,
But what if we like vote them out or they
vote each other out, or if they fell, they got
to leave the house.
Speaker 6: That's how you create it for sure.
Speaker 5: That's kind of like that's kind of like survivor, like
you you gotta be good, which you can't be too good.
Speaker 4: This is way better than half the things on TV
right now. Mayen Max last night, and there is a
real show titled F Boy Island. Okay and at a
girl Island. They don't want a different one way or
the other.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they ever like come together on the same island.
Believe it you f boy and girl or not? What
about like, okay, so what if on the don't call
it a comeback show?
Speaker 6: So on Love Island they drop bombshells in there.
Speaker 7: What if we drop like an OnlyFans model that they've
all talked to and the like, all of a sudden,
she just shows up in the house, probly a couple
of them.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you talked to him to wait. Hold up,
I'm not that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: There might be football players, might just be a lot
of high five Yeah, bro, you too.
Speaker 3: All right, So throughout the show, let's just come up
with like a quarterback, a running back, a receiver, a linebacker,
a safety, a corner, the most diabolical person.
Speaker 4: Okay, show, but I guess he's I'll go linebacker already
got it?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's I got a quarterback. Let's do
to let's go head. I think we'll come up.
Speaker 3: We'll come up with those with those last chance ufl
All right, we will step away for the first time.
We will get this thing started. When we come back.
It is otb here on this Tuesday morning.
Speaker 1: Off the bench.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be some cold do sekis in that. Don't
call it a comeback house. I think the house would
be sponsored, There's.
Speaker 2: No doubt about it.
Speaker 3: There'll be a fridge full, and that fridge will get
eliminated pretty quick. But you should always go for dose
because it's never a bad time no matter what the
situation is. Right watching the ball game, check you're at
the pool, Check you're at the beach. Like double check
you're at the lake. It might even be a triple check.
It is always a great time to go into the
fridge and grab that ice cold dough sequis drink do seqis,
go for dose, drink responsibly.
Speaker 5: Whise coach once told Jacob and I and the rest
of the team at LSU don't try to drink every
beer and bat because they're just gonna make more, So
don't try to do it. But if you are going
to drink some beers and responsibly drinking, go for dose.
Pick up a dose. Second is a cold Mexican logger.
Oh it's delicious, ice cold and a frosty mug with
a fresh squeeze lime. Go for dose, drink responsibly, drink
do see.
Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown l s
U football like only champions can.
Speaker 8: Of This morning, you heard the TV about disaster in
the world, and it made me wonder where I'm going.
This Roman's darkness sin over, But I see beauty left
a new girl and watch your kid let me then
I'll be all.
Speaker 2: See today is going to be a good day, all JT.
Every day is a good day.
Speaker 3: It is because you hear yes, Monday it was Monday
was on an hour a sleepy it's a long break.
Speaker 2: Good Lord blessed us with opening our eyes in the morning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, true, you're right.
Speaker 2: Perspective, breath and our lungs.
Speaker 6: Incredible voices, voices, I mean we just hit that.
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 5: We all have pretty darn good voices, maybe the best
voices song.
Speaker 3: Birds of generation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like we could definitively say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean y'all heard our under Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do we have the technology in studio the auto tune?
Speaker 6: I mean I could probably figure it out like T
Pain turn it.
Speaker 3: Onto T Pain and T Pain didn't even need it no,
which is crazy.
Speaker 2: Do you ever hear it?
Speaker 4: It's like live concerts cool.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, ye bought it.
Speaker 6: I mean it was like.
Speaker 4: As a as a ten year old listener and I'm like,
how does he sound like that?
Speaker 2: How does he do it?
Speaker 4: I bought into it.
Speaker 2: Was T Pain, the one that rhymed it was cancer. Yeah, yeah,
we played it with him. Yeah, legend, legend, Look, that's
a JT song. We can play that again today. It
was also on I'm on a Boat. Yeah, it's a classic.
I think we forget how good that song really is.
Speaker 3: I think I think we also forget what we usould
get away with at six to eight we play songs
like that.
Speaker 2: We played one song by Andy Sandberg and justin Timberlake.
Speaker 5: We did no way did We didn't know if we
could so live on air. We cold called Gordie and
asked him if we could play it.
Speaker 3: It was like yeah, blank in the box.
Speaker 2: He goes, shoot, go for it.
Speaker 3: We're like all right, all right, and we did. We
played seven at night. Nobody really cared nor nobody, Yeah nobody.
Speaker 6: Nobody was going to call the SCC. Like guys that
worked there.
Speaker 5: Remember that South Park episode where it became legal on
Basic Cable to say the S word Yeah, And they
decided that like just become okay, And so they had
a counter at the top, kind of like a dead
body count, like a in an action movie. It was
how many times they could say the S word.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's where you got it from.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But it was you know, I was pushing the
envelope over there at South Park.
Speaker 3: So you have dropped one a Landra ahead just at
one because I got cold, I say, incredibly close to
saying the F word. No, I mean I said some
syllables of it and didn't finish it. It's whenever else
you would hire Brian Kelly. There's some people that kind
of down on it whatever, And so I was trying to,
you know, kind of go over the resume and go
over the record, and I think at the end I
was like, let's blanket go.
Speaker 2: And oh boy, it's hard to not.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's so hard. I did almost call.
Speaker 3: I caught myself at the very end.
Speaker 6: I did almost call Flinn a little bit the other
day during Dear de Landra.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then because remember he was being sensitive like
my boss, like the boss boss a little bit. But
I also.
Speaker 7: One time on a hot mic, asked Bill Francs if
he needed a an X.
Speaker 2: So remember that, which is like bops hot mike situation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, which if you know Bill, he does not need.
Speaker 2: No, he does not, You can say the B word.
Speaker 3: It just has to be like, yeah, I'm sure you've
never done.
Speaker 4: By multiple the one I was telling you all the
other day. He was like Jacob Bec's second day working here.
He had to do a f r R because Moscone
is out, Musso is hosting, and it wasn't Beck's fault,
Like white Orbit is froze. It'll do that from time
to time, so it freezes. And me and Moose were
chatting about something during the segment and Beck forgot to
turn my mic off and Musa is like, oh crap,
it's frozen. It came over here and I said, the
amount of yes in this room that doesn't work. It
is so ridiculous. And then it just it got all
picked up. Yeah, people had a little fun with that one,
and I felt like there was another time probably, but.
Speaker 3: I remember I remember daring T Bobs. I'm calling him,
I'm calling Rivers, I'm calling like everybody. Like at that time,
I was like, oh, By, it's hot because it was extended,
very hot, it was spicy.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure I dropped the enough bump on the
Late night show one time, like I was talking about
a backup quarterback or something.
Speaker 2: I was getting fired up. Yebhut it oh. I remember
late night Radio like there was and it just like
came out.
Speaker 5: I was just getting fired up about it, and it
was just like one of those left g situations.
Speaker 2: Those will get you, Those will get you.
Speaker 3: That's where you get in trouble. That's where you get
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Speaker 3: All right, So with media Day on the horizon, we
were trying to think. Flynn and I were trying to
think of a question that we wanted to ask whoever
sat down with us, Like we wanted to have one
core question. Okay, no matter who it is, no matter
who sits down, this is what we're going with. And
I think we landed on do you know who Jonathan
Moxon is? How do we feel about that? Because I
think what high school team did, well, there's no way
they're getting that, you don't think, So that will be
a bonus question. If they know who Max is, then
we ask him which high school he played quarterback for.
Speaker 6: I feel like, if you know who he is, you
know the high school?
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, Yeah, for sure, you would hope.
Speaker 4: So they do say it a lot in the movie.
Speaker 3: How many how many players do we think are going
to know the answer to that? How many y'all normally
gets three per team, three players per team, but for
the morning show we'll probably interview ten players.
Speaker 4: I think three.
Speaker 3: That's a question if they know who Jonathan Moxon is?
Speaker 6: Oh, how many of them are?
Speaker 3: Do you know who JONATHANX?
Speaker 6: Varsity Blues?
Speaker 3: Okay, thank god, you scared me for a little bit.
I know you scared me for just a little bit.
Speaker 2: I know you are.
Speaker 3: I know, like so I didn't even question it at first,
but then you're like, what's hold up?
Speaker 2: Wait a minute?
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I was how many actually know who
he is?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 7: I feel like if you actually I don't know because
I never played for anything, but like, if you played football,
you've seen Varsity Blues right.
Speaker 3: Right, have to, I would think. So let me tell
you something. I'm gonna be honest with you. If r
QB one doesn't get it, I'm gonna be highly dist.
Speaker 4: Q He's from Texas. The movie was based out of there.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say that, like, you know, in that kind
of situation where you're definitely not thinking about that question,
because it's gonna be like a snap question.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be just right there. Hey whos Johnny?
Speaker 3: Okay, if we get out here, Hey who Jonathan Boxin.
Speaker 2: Are they gonna be able to I know it? Is?
Speaker 5: It gonna be one of the situations where they can't
recall it and they're like.
Speaker 2: Ah, man, I can't remember who is that? Who is that?
And then it's over and they walk off there in
the elevator, and I was like.
Speaker 4: That's that's why I'm going three out of ten, Like,
I think more know it than that. I think three
will know it well enough to answer it.
Speaker 2: On the S three I think the over unders probably
said it two and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're a little disappointed.
Speaker 2: Crew.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna tell you if there is a team
where their players do know it, like all.
Speaker 2: Three across, I'm jumping on that back.
Speaker 3: So let me tell you if it's nus Meyer and
what weeks, which I assume it's going to be, I
don't know, they're both gonna know.
Speaker 2: That's right there. Now, Who the third player for l
s U is.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be very important because they go three for three,
Natty guaranteed, that's guaranteed. It was, Yes, it was it
was Perk Myern.
Speaker 2: Who was Josh Williams?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because who else would have known he's from the
Houston area.
Speaker 2: Josh would have known.
Speaker 3: I'm give him the benefit of the doubt that he
would have known. All right, it's important.
Speaker 6: Well mm hmm definitely with nuts.
Speaker 4: Who else has always I'll tell you who I would
like to see it be. I would really like it
to beat you. Cobe and Guillory. Oh yeah, he's been
six years. He's come off from multiple bad injuries. He's
stuck around like I would like for it to be
Guillory Willoughby.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but Jordan Gilbert maybe in that Gilbert
veteran player.
Speaker 2: He's a veteran guy Stamps.
Speaker 4: Maybe this is his third year hopefully playing significant time.
Speaker 2: Could be Aaron Anderson. Anderson is another watching and.
Speaker 3: A good thing is guys, we got candidates? Oh yeah,
I means you got some veteran players that are that's
good and you can, you know, debate who the third
player would be.
Speaker 2: So what should we ask the coaches? Do you know
who Jeff Less?
Speaker 4: It's like, because I don't do you know who?
Speaker 2: You keep hearing about? Guy?
Speaker 3: Could you tell me who he is?
Speaker 2: There's no way your school.
Speaker 6: Did Jeff Levy go to?
Speaker 2: YEP?
Speaker 6: I needn't know who.
Speaker 2: I think if you're actually thinking about it.
Speaker 7: I need the list so that I can like deep
dive on these people and give y'all some crazy ass
facts about them so you can nard wore them or
like Sean.
Speaker 4: They haven't they haven't announced it yet. I know I'm
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all right, So when we come back, I do you
mentioned Caden Durham, you know, being a name that hey,
maybe he goes to media day. I do want to
talk about the running game because you said it yesterday.
It wasn't where it needs to be, and it wasn't
because of Caden Durham. There was a lot of factors
that played into it. You had an offensive line that
was really good in past protection, but they did struggle
in the run game.
Speaker 2: What can you do as.
Speaker 3: A play caller to be diverse and be creative in
your play calling. We'll break down kind of what their
runs were a year ago, what we expect and Caden
Dorham also fully healthy now and uh, you know some
issues with his foot. Gosh, basically the entire season, but
certainly the entire back half of the season. Because Garrett
Nesmyer was great last year. Imagine if he had a
running game to go with the weapons that he has.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back again, O t B here on this to
Day morning. Talked about it yesterday, talked about a little
bit today, the LSU running game. What did it look
like a year ago? Well, you had some quality backs,
you had Kaden Durham, you had Josh Williams, but you
were wanting a little bit more and you felt like
there was more in there, and I thought the running
backs actually did a nice job for what was given
to them, what was in front of them. I thought
they did a nice job. There was times where they did,
like Caden Doram took the South Carolina game over, like
he kind of willed you to victory in that game.
I think the running back room, if Kayden Dorham can
stay healthy, is exactly where you want it to be.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: You've got some young players, some very talented players, some
very highly rated players behind there. And we've said it before.
If there's any position that can translate from high school
football to college football and be a quick transition, it
is the running back position. The Good Lord either made
you to run the football or he didn't. He either
made you to be able to read a blocking scheme
or he didn't. That's just the way I believe it,
So I have always believed it. L Shu's got a
couple of really nice ones. You got Caleb Jackson still
there on the squad as well as a veteran player.
We'll see what his development and his growth looks like
as well.
Speaker 5: I remember, so I went to a training camp practice
last year and I was watching a scrimmage yep, and
I didn't know who it was at that I didn't
know it was Cayleb Jackson running the ball.
Speaker 3: You texted me who's number twenty eight?
Speaker 5: Said, who is number twenty eight? And I was like,
oh my god, he nearly killed the guy. He ran
somebody over in the open field and it was a
linebacker two was it with? Yeah, Oh my god. Sorry
with the know that was you, wasn't going to call
you out, but man, he did. He ran him over
and was so impressive on that one drive that I
went on. And at the time you had mentioned that
really talented and all the skills in the world kind
of struggled with some ball security issues. I would expect
vision issues and some vision issues. Yeah, I would expect that.
Vision is one of those things that you either have
it naturally. It's hard to gain, but you can gain it,
like you can get better at it. But if you
don't have it naturally, it's always going to be kind
of an uphill battle challenge.
Speaker 2: And you would know it better than me.
Speaker 5: You had great vision and it was a natural thing
for you, but you certainly played with very talented running
backs that didn't have that right. But you can get it,
and you can hit some home runs too with it,
Like you if you read it right and you understand
and have to have a really good offensive line coach.
Speaker 3: Wow, what is blocked in front of you to be
the starter right, because you can't hit the home runs,
hit your head with go posts like we talk about
if you don't respect the blocking scheme, like that's what
gets the place started. Now, once you get to the
second level, then your athletic ability can take over your
you know, dynamic playmaking ability in the open feel, it
can take over. But if you try to do that
from the get go, which l Shu's had some running
backs in the past that have been incredibly talented, but
they've done that. That's the one thing that is difficult
to go from high school to college because in high school,
you were given the football and you just like you know,
halfway pressed it and then just bounced it outside and
went to the house.
Speaker 2: You can't do that in this league.
Speaker 5: In high school, you can bounce it outside and beat
everybody of the edge. But let's also step back and say,
let's also not hit our running backs too hard on
the vision aspect, because our running game in blocking last
year did not create clear reads and clear paths.
Speaker 2: So it was kind of a challenge. It was a
little bit of like a guess or like, man, nothing's.
Speaker 5: Clearing up for me, so I'm just gonna have to
put my head down and run through the big gap, yeah,
and see what I can get. So they we didn't
make clear blocking lanes, and so that is one thing
that as LSU fans we have to hope we're improving.
That is not only the way we block things, but schematically,
what plays are we calling and what downs?
Speaker 3: How are we ran inside zone? To your point, and.
Speaker 5: When you do that, when you're running too much of
one or two certain plays, especially in very specific down
in distances like we were very predictable when it came
to the must need situations.
Speaker 2: Now you can get a little creative.
Speaker 5: It's easier in first and second down when the offense
on regular down and distance, regular situations, then you can
get a little bit more creative because the defense doesn't
really know what's happening. But when push came to shove
last year on when we needed a half a yard
or we needed one yard or whatever it was third
or fourth down, there was not that many plays we
were calling and so the defense only has one thing
to respond to. They watch film, they get prepared, and
you base your game plan. You base how your instincts,
how you play, how you attack the blocker, which shoulder
I'm attacking on the blocker, how I'm ripping his arms?
Like what am I doing? Where am I eyes in
the backfield as I'm attacking the shoulder of an offensive lineman?
Speaker 2: What am I reading?
Speaker 5: And when you're predictable and when you and you can
be predictable if you got some badass dudes blocking right,
we did it when we played teams do it all
the time, like you know we're running it. I know
we're running it. Let's see who can win. But we
just didn't win those, so that was easier. So as
LSU fans, we got to hope that the creativity gets
a little bit better. But of course we got to
hope that. And I'm not trying to knock anybody, because
our offensive line last year was amazing at pass blocking and.
Speaker 3: That's what they were there for.
Speaker 5: Like you, if you're an offensive coordinator or head coach
and you say, these guys are incredible at pass blocking,
but maybe not the best run blocking unit.
Speaker 2: That we've ever had.
Speaker 5: That's the sacrifice you make for that pass blocking, especially
with a quarterback and receiving corps like we had last year.
Speaker 3: So one of the things that I just as a
running back, I can't imagine what it would be like. Okay,
so you're running all these things at a shotgun, right,
and that's what's in vogue. That's what everybody does. Nobody
gets under center anymore. I get that, I understand it.
But also, like when you're running inside zone as much
as you did a year ago with no threat of
your quarterback pulling that zone, you take away something that
makes that play a good play. Now, when you had Jayden,
they did a really nice job. You could run inside
zone even if he didn't pull it. You were terrified
the number five was going to pull it. Well that's
not who Garrett Neusmeyer is, and that is okay. But
when you run that play over and over again with
no threat, well you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 2: You got one thing you hone in on. Yep, it
is the running back.
Speaker 3: Because if I'm a backside guy and calling the games
last year, I started to pointing it out time and
time again, that backside end that you leave unblocked, who
has to be responsible for the quarterback. By about game six,
he said, oh the hell with this, I'm just gonna
go like a bat out of hell towards a running
back because nus Meyer is not gonna pull it. And
I think nus did maybe three times total last year,
and so like that's another portion that's going to go
against your running game. And then as a running back,
when you're running zone out of gun, you're turning your
shoulders to the sideline, which in football you're never supposed
to do to get the handoff, so your eyes are
off of the defensive line, reading your keys. And then
once you turn back one your momentum has been going
sideways when their momentum has been going north and south.
Then you got to turn your shoulders. You're kind of
stopped basically at this point. Then you got to refine
wherever your key was, like when we were playing and
we were in I formation or if we were in
ACE formation. For me, I'm a running back. I'm at
seven and a half yards, i am open step crossover,
and I'm trusting Matt to get me the football. That's
his responsibility. I'm not even looking at Matt, I'm looking
at the three technique or whatever my read might be
on that play, And so when Matt gives me the football,
I'm downhill full speed and I'm I'm ready to make
my cut inside, outside, straight, like whatever it might be.
So that's a portion of it too. I was if
you're going to be in gun, get into some pistol looks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would assume.
Speaker 5: I would hope that if we're gonna main stay in gun,
which nothing would ever tell me that it's not going
to like ninety nine percent of the snap is going
to be in gun because that's just college football right now.
Speaker 2: It drives me crazy, but that we would go to
more pistol looks.
Speaker 5: It allows you to get in more well, like you said,
it allows the running back that better vision, better momentum,
and run more basic running plays, old school like normal
football plays. But like to your point on the gear.
So I hear that all the time from people around town.
I hear it in the chat like Nuss has to
pull the ball at least once again, has to has
to because it'll I don't agree with that, and and
this is this is why I don't agree with it, because.
Speaker 2: Just don't run the play.
Speaker 5: Don't run his zone read where you're unblocking with Garrett's
not He's not a runner.
Speaker 2: That's not what he does. We're not going to threaten it.
I know.
Speaker 5: We want to pull it, like, just pull it to
create the threat. If you're a defensive coordinator and Garrett
that's my pulls it one time, it makes seven yards.
I'm still telling that defensive end go attack the running
back because Garrett Nstmayer is not going to beat our
team with his legs. Just don't run the play. Did
Tom Brady run zone read? Did Drew Brees run zon read?
Speaker 2: No? They didn't. Just get creative?
Speaker 5: Do normal running plays out of gun don't put that
play Like I know, I get it. I saw the
same thing everybody else did. Oh my god, that was
a pool read.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Why didn't he pull it?
Speaker 5: He's got to, Yeah, But when you think about it,
just there are plenty of more plays out there, running
plays to call than a zone read. It's not what
he does, it's not what this offense should be. There's
plenty of other ways to get to it. And I
wish that more colleges would kind of adopt US, So
the NFL is going back to a lot more under center.
The best offense is in the NFL. So in the world, Niners, Packers, Chiefs, Bills,
they are all implementing way more underneath the center. Chargers
as well, they're doing it too, So a lot of gun.
But when you think of like, oh it's Josh Allen
or whatever, Patrick Mahomes, they got to be a gunned
as much as college kids are. No, they're getting under
center a ton. Why because it creates the threat. It
creates a threat of run. When a quarterback can turn
his back to the line of scrimm or turn his
back to the line of scrimmage, it hides the ball
for a split second.
Speaker 2: What does that do to the defense? Freezes? It creates doubt, Yeah,
who's got the ball? Where is it? Who's he gonna
give it to? It creates a doubt.
Speaker 5: I love gun, don't get me wrong, and I think
it's I wanted to be a gun more and more
and more. But you have to be under centered somehow,
or I wish they do well. I'm not gonna say
a half because college football is a different game. But
I'm just gonna tell you the best offenses in the
world are implementing it more and more and more.
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Speaker 3: We did mention that LSU ran inside zone forty seven
percent of the time. We talked about this the other day,
but somebody was asking on X it was inside zone
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of the time, a man scheme four percent of the time.
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so probably a reverse.
Speaker 5: Yeah, stats like first half of the season, so like
first six games, what was inside zone?
Speaker 2: Give it to you, it was probably like eighty percent.
Feels like it. I mean we got they started to
counter change rate of.
Speaker 5: And it was then it worked right and an inside
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: Inside zone is a great play just out of ace
formation ace formation.
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