WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.320 Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grub, 2 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:12.720 your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for 3 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.119 tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be talking about 4 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:17.960 Grand Theft Auto six, but hey, we could stop talking 5 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.199 about price and start talking about the future of physical games. Yay, 6 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:24.800 it's gonna be a good one because we have Steve 7 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:29.000 Sailor on the show. Steve, how are you doing, Grub? 8 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:30.000 I'm doing awesome. 9 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:32.159 Thank you for inviting me on to me today. This 10 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:35.759 seems to be a very interesting day for definitely GTA 11 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:37.119 six news, and I'm excited to. 12 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.000 Be able to talk about it today with with y'all. 13 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:41.520 Yeah, it does feel like a lot of the other 14 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:43.119 news got out of the way, but we got we 15 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:46.159 have some other stories here and then there's plenty to 16 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:49.920 talk about with Grand Theft Auto you know, still no trailer, 17 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:52.119 but they dropped a bunch of a bunch of screenshots. 18 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:53.520 I don't know, we'll get into it here in a 19 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.240 little bit, but Steve, Yeah, how you been doing. How 20 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:58.039 you hanging in there? I've been catching your streams here 21 00:00:58.039 --> 00:00:59.840 and there. I know you got you planning. You're gonna 22 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:01.960 play Final Fantasy seven for the first time. I think 23 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:03.520 you said that's coming out or did you just did 24 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:07.959 you start that? I just did yesterday. Yeah, I played 25 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.280 the demo with back at E three. 26 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:13.200 Twenty nineteen because I was the first and only time 27 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.159 I was ever at E three. So I don't want 28 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:16.920 to say it was a cause of it shutting down, but. 29 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:19.480 You know, I can't can't rule it out, can't. 30 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:22.640 Can't exactly, I can't roll it out. But yeah, so 31 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.400 I played it then, but it, like I felt at 32 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:27.000 the time, it didn't have enough accessibility for me to 33 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:28.680 be able to play. Not to say that it's gotten 34 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.239 any better now, but I figured, you know, I'm a 35 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:34.400 little bit more like tolerant. I feel like that my 36 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:37.239 skill levels kind of upgraded a tiny bit in the past, like. 37 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.120 You find the way trying to navigate these sort of 38 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:40.000 situations a little bit. 39 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:40.319 Yeah. 40 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:42.560 Yeah, So I decided I was going to be like 41 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.280 you know what I've I've been, you know, seeing everyone 42 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:46.920 loving Final Fantasy seven. You know, it's one of the 43 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.400 best Final fantasies, you know, arguably. You know, I know 44 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:51.439 some people say six, some people say ten, some people 45 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:53.920 say fourteen, but I don't know whatever, Uh, for me, 46 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:54.359 it's seven. 47 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:55.920 I figured, Okay, I'll give it a try. 48 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:58.120 And uh yeah, I'll be playing that and then I'll 49 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:00.439 try to be able to jump into Rebirth eating up 50 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:02.439 to when we get Revelation next year. 51 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:03.680 Yeah, excellent. 52 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:07.760 I have played, i'll say, a bunch of Final Fantasy 53 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:10.879 seven Remake and Final Fantasy seven Rebirth, and I kind 54 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.520 of want to see them through. But maybe I could 55 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:13.840 just watch some more of your stream and do it 56 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:15.639 that way. That might be might be the move, But 57 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:16.560 I mean, I. 58 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:18.080 Don't know want to be the best stream to watch, 59 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:21.080 but it's gonna be at least somewhat entertaining a. 60 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.319 Stream to watch. I bet it'll be very entertaining. Yeah, 61 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.759 I'm a I am looking forward to the third one, 62 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.159 so I'm kind of want to hop a board now 63 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.039 that it's all on switch To. Maybe you know, I 64 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:32.960 started playing actually Rebirth on switch To in the last 65 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.800 month when I knew I had that Hamagucci interview coming up, and. 66 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:36.639 I was getting into it. 67 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:38.759 It's like, there's just so many other games I could 68 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.599 be playing it, Like, it always feels bad to be 69 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:43.039 playing one that is even slightly old at this point, 70 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.280 but I don't know, I play I say that, and 71 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:47.680 it's like, well, then if I'm gonna play an old game, 72 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:48.919 I'm playing very old games. 73 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:51.360 So yeah, I really should just get over that and 74 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.439 get back to it. That's the thing with me is 75 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.479 that my backlog is so like large. Of that there's 76 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.280 probably games that like y'all probably would say like, really 77 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.759 you have not played yet, And one of them will 78 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:04.479 probably talking about a little bit today, and that's GTA five. 79 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.800 I've never played a GTA game before, So yeah, that's 80 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.520 one game I'm thinking about, you know, trying GTA five, 81 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:12.680 or maybe Vice City might need some advice for the 82 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:16.199 fifth pigree out, which one before six comes out. So 83 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:18.199 I don't know, Like with Jeff, what do you think 84 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:20.000 should I should I jump into old school Vice City 85 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:22.319 or should I just play five because that's kind of 86 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:24.080 the more modern style of Rockstar? 87 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:26.199 I would add, I, you know what, I might actually 88 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:28.280 go with Vice City because you think you might get 89 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:29.759 some of the references they're going to make in this 90 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:34.039 game and my hunches. GTA six is going to be 91 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:38.560 a much more pretty technologically impressive GTA five. Like, I 92 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.199 don't know if they're going to change up the way 93 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:42.680 that they make their games all that much, so it 94 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:45.439 might it might be too much of a good thing 95 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:47.479 or too much of a thing. If you play Grand 96 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:49.960 Theft Auto five and then immediately jump into Grand Theft 97 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:52.319 Auto six, you'll be able to appreciate the like how 98 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:54.000 far they've come if you go back to Vice City, 99 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:55.759 so that that might be the move. Don't and don't 100 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:57.240 feel like you got to play through the entirety of 101 00:03:57.319 --> 00:03:59.080 Vice City. I would go in there, mess around with 102 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:01.599 the sandbox, do some of the missions, see if the 103 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.919 characters strike your fancy, and then go from there. I 104 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:07.000 liked My City quite a bit. That was definitely the 105 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.439 one I played the most of the story mode for sure. 106 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.039 Okay, all right, well I definitely needed another game to 107 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:14.000 be able to distract me from the deluge of September 108 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:14.840 and October, so. 109 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:17.639 Exactly, yeah, I'll go into a fugue state and play 110 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:20.000 something else instead of any of active games for sure. 111 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:22.839 All right, let's explain ourselves. We're Giant Bomb. 112 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.279 Go to giant bomb dot com, slash join and become 113 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.079 a premium member. If you do, you're going to be 114 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.639 supporting independent games media. 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Rockstar and Take two 159 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:31.199 have confirmed today as pre orders will go live at 160 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.600 midnight tonight. I think how this is supposed to happen. 161 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:35.959 They go live tomorrow, but I think as we flip over, 162 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:39.160 it'll be midnight tonight. Rockstar and Take two have confirmed 163 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:42.680 the standard edition is eighty dollars and the Ultimate Edition 164 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.800 is one hundred dollars. There is no actually early access 165 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.360 version here, so I was kind of expecting that, and 166 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.360 I was like, maybe they'll do a seventy dollars and 167 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:53.279 like one hundred and twenty dollars to play it five 168 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.720 days early. They're kind of splitting it, splitting the difference. 169 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:59.680 There's no early version. The Ultimate Edition is only a 170 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:03.199 Hunt only and the standard edition is eighty. We'll get 171 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:05.920 into what is in the Ultimate Edition here in a second, 172 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:08.879 but yeah, pre orders start June June twenty fifth. The 173 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.800 game is still coming out November nineteenth. You can preload 174 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:14.879 it starting November twelfth, and if you go to the store, 175 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:16.800 you go to Walmart, if you go to game Stop 176 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:19.160 to get a physical version of this game. It is 177 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:22.399 a physical box with a download code inside the case, 178 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:28.519 node game disc at launch. Let's start there, Steve. That 179 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:30.759 seems like the kind of thing you do when you 180 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:32.439 can get away with it and you know you're going 181 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:34.120 to sell kind of all the copies you were going 182 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:36.920 to sell anyhow. And then there's some benefits if you're 183 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.279 the company right where the bulk of the people who 184 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.519 would be most likely I think, to show up to 185 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.800 buy this game and then sell it, sell it into 186 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.279 the used market are going to be buying this game 187 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.079 on day one. So you eliminate that. Just in one 188 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:54.480 fell swoop, there you go. The people that can't help 189 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:56.639 themselves but to buy this game on day one, but 190 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:58.240 might have been like, all right, I played it, I'm good, 191 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.519 I'm selling it. It's still a high price. You eliminate 192 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:04.160 that option from them. And then also this gets rid 193 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:07.040 of the possibility of the game leaking early and some 194 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.480 asshole on TikTok being the first person to scoop the 195 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:11.720 game and showing everybody what's going on inside of it. 196 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:17.759 That that stinks, Uh, that stinks like people like even 197 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:19.480 if like we get it right, Steve, this game is 198 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.360 going to be too big for a disc, sure, but 199 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:24.120 the disc being the key is nice when it does 200 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.040 come time to sell it and get your get some 201 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.120 of your money back and find someone else that doesn't 202 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:29.519 want to pay quite as much and they want to 203 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.639 save some money and Rockstar just decided and Take two 204 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:35.679 just decided we don't want that to be a possibility. 205 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:37.840 So that stinks. I'm not super happy about that. 206 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.360 Yeah, I will say, uh, I like they definitely they 207 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.600 decided to pull a Nintendo and just decided to do 208 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:47.120 a game key in box. And I understand, like even 209 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.480 sort of the international market, like if like they're making 210 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:52.600 physical discs, if it was too big for a disk, 211 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.320 like doing a dual disc sort of thing would cost 212 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:56.159 a lot of. 213 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.559 Money, and that was never going to be it was 214 00:08:57.600 --> 00:08:59.639 you were always going to be downloading the second half 215 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:00.000 of this game. 216 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.120 Yeah, one hundred percent. 217 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.799 Yeah, like I think it like it just even with 218 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.120 that long I think the tariff still was obviously like 219 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:09.120 that they had to make that decision early on so 220 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:11.200 that they so that they could be able to have 221 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.879 at least something in stores, because they know that there's 222 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:15.080 gonna be a lot of people that are just going 223 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:17.919 into stores being like I have heard GTA six and 224 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:19.200 I wanted GTA six. 225 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:20.759 I'll little Walmart and pick it up. 226 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.399 And still I don't think anyone but I had heard 227 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.039 that there was like even some friends of mine who 228 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:28.919 like are in rural areas that it's gonna suck having 229 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:30.799 to be able to download a large game. I mean, 230 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:32.759 they complained about that about Call of Duty, and I 231 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:34.440 agree with them on that on that, so it's gonna 232 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:34.639 be like. 233 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:36.080 Again, that was always gonna be the case. They were 234 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:38.519 never thing on four discs or something like that. 235 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:42.320 Ye yeah, yeah, So I think that it's just it sucks, 236 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.399 but it's just the way the industry. 237 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:45.679 Is right now. 238 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:48.600 I am glad though, that they decided not to go 239 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:52.759 with the rumored hundred dollars cost route, because hundred dollars 240 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.679 for basically a plastic case would have been a lot, 241 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.200 and I think it would have been too much. It 242 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.399 will be that in Canada though, because with the exchange rate, 243 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:04.039 the eighty dollars turns into probably a hundred I would say, 244 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:05.279 potentially one hundred and ten. 245 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:07.639 If that's if. 246 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.080 It usually is within that twenty thirty dollars markup for 247 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:12.799 that which sucks is then that means that the collector's 248 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:14.600 edition will be one hundred and thirty hundred and forty. 249 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.240 I hope that doesn't set a precedent. It's not the 250 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.759 worst like decision to have it as eighty dollars, but 251 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:23.679 it's not necessarily or sorry, have it the worst decision 252 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:24.960 to having it a one hundred dollars, but I think 253 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.600 it's like it's not a bad price at eighty. It 254 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:29.559 just sucks that essentially that you're not getting a disc 255 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:32.120 with that if you buy it physical. Because another thing 256 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:34.240 like so, of course I talk about accessibility all the time. 257 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.519 We call that we I generally buy and other no, 258 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.799 other disabled folks, we generally buy physical because the disability 259 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:44.120 tax is that we often don't get a chance to 260 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:45.679 be able to get a refund and digital stores. 261 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:47.240 PlayStation doesn't allow. 262 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:49.840 We don't know if it's really accessible until you try 263 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:53.440 it yourself, right, exact situation is different, Okay, very interesting, So. 264 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:54.879 Yeah, so then and then we try to go for 265 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.799 a refund. PlayStation doesn't allow refunds unless you start download 266 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.240 and get Nintendo even says literally in their FAQs, if 267 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.639 you had to ask for a refund for a digital download, 268 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:06.720 They're like, no, you should. You should have looked at 269 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.600 reviews and screenshots to see if this game was for you. 270 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:11.799 That's what I say to that. 271 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:15.720 Hell exactly, Xbox they have like I've been able to 272 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:19.480 get refunds and asking for accessibility reasons, and then Steam 273 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:21.080 is like the only one that actually has like a 274 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:24.000 like a more flexible refund policy with you can play 275 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:26.200 a couple hours. So that's why I've kind of transitioned 276 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.960 more to PC gaming as of late. But like removing 277 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:34.600 the physical disc out of it and like that to me, 278 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:36.960 like if I could buy it in store and then 279 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:38.840 return it in store if I can't play it, at 280 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:41.159 least I can get some of my money back. But 281 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.960 with this, I'm more likely I'm probably not gonna be 282 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:45.759 able to get a refund for it because it's not 283 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:47.320 gonna be on Steam, so I have to buy it 284 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:51.799 on PlayStation or Xbox, and like I may even though 285 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:53.200 I know we have a story that's talking about it 286 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:55.519 may play better on PlayStation, but I may have to 287 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:57.879 go Xbox because at least they're a little bit more flexible. 288 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:00.360 Yeah, yeah, we will get into that here in a 289 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.399 little bit. There's plenty more to talk about. You mentioned 290 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:04.840 something like, you know they didn't go to the one 291 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:07.159 hundred dollars and there is one hundred dollars version. We 292 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.960 talked about that, the Ultimate edition. You know what, let's 293 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:12.120 let's just say what's in there real quick. Rockstar is 294 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:15.279 also withholding significant single player content for the one hundred 295 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:20.279 dollars Ultimate Edition. That version includes exclusive weapons, vehicles, clothing, 296 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:23.279 safe house vehicles in five businesses that the Standard edition 297 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:28.519 players apparently cannot access. Ride out Customs vehicle shop, Sarah's 298 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:33.440 unisex Salon Stock three zero five clothing store, Electric fing 299 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.679 tattoo featuring more than fifty Failly failed design tattoos. I'm 300 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.200 supposing that is a real tattoo artist and one eyed 301 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.000 Willies off road modification shop. 302 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.360 So that's the stuff that's in the Ultimate Edition. Let 303 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:45.840 me let me. 304 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:49.159 Pose a possibility here that I think I'm feeling like 305 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:51.360 pretty good about this prediction in that it's going to 306 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.759 be right, not in the contents of the prediction. When 307 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.159 they do eventually put a disc version on store shelves, 308 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.320 which I think they will next year sometime, I think 309 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:04.600 it will only be the one hundred dollars Ultimate Edition. 310 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:06.960 I don't think they'll do the eighty dollars version. Does 311 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:08.080 that sound plausible to you? 312 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:09.519 I think so. 313 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:11.440 I think they definitely would want to be able to 314 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.200 maybe recoup some of the cost of the manufacturing if 315 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:16.840 the if the way that the industry is right now 316 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.440 kind of continues say into next year, which probably more likely, 317 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.879 So I think that that would be a safe bet. 318 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.200 And then maybe like one of those like kind of 319 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:27.879 cards or like you know, you go to the thing 320 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:30.200 and be like here's like here's just a digital code 321 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:34.000 instead of just like like thing in box. So I 322 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:37.360 would say, yeah, that's a probably good safe bet for that. 323 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:40.440 And yeah, I think for an Ultimate edition, I don't know, 324 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.120 like I think the one hundred dollars, I think it 325 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.399 depends on kind of like how you want to like 326 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:47.120 like what is the bonuses you want to be able 327 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:50.679 to get it? Basically for an additional twenty you get 328 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:52.720 like a few of the extra stuff in there that 329 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.360 you probably would have to buy in game with, like 330 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:58.399 whether it's shark cards or whatever that like the inking currency, 331 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:00.840 you probably would have to pay the equivalent to that 332 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:01.840 in there. 333 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:03.080 I find it interesting about the. 334 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:06.879 Like the the exclusivity of the specific shops that it's 335 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:09.919 only available like like what so it's like basically if 336 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:12.240 your standard player you're not allowed to enter those shops, 337 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:14.960 but maybe the the Ultimate players can, Like I don't. 338 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:15.320 Know how that works. 339 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.159 I guess so do they show up on your map 340 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.480 and it's like when you like int hey upgrade to 341 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.519 the twenty twenty dollars stupgrade. 342 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:22.759 To the ulimate edition. 343 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:25.240 If you want to actually go in here, that's that's stupid, 344 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:27.480 that's not We've come up with more elegant ways to 345 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:29.519 get people to pay more money for these things, including 346 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.960 releasing the game early for collectors' editions. This withholding stuff 347 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.960 feels very antiquated at this point. It just doesn't move 348 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:38.639 me all that much. I'll say it's there's gonna be 349 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.399 plenty of game there. Although it always feels bad to 350 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.399 play a version of a game that feels like it's 351 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.559 missing stuff. Steve, So, yeah, they're playing on that fomo 352 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.639 aspect of it, like always, and I think a lot 353 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:51.679 of people who are going to show up on day 354 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:53.240 one will just default to that because they will be 355 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:54.720 afraid of missing out exactly. 356 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:57.000 And we'll and pull the trigger on one hundred dollars version. 357 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:00.519 A question though, that I have once, like when GTA 358 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:03.080 Online obviously kind of hits, do you think it we're 359 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:04.679 gonna like, are we gonna be waiting. 360 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:05.720 A year for that? And is it going to be 361 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:07.159 a standalone and you know, you pay. 362 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.879 Thirty forty bucks to get access to it and then 363 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:11.759 the like or do you need the base game for it? 364 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:14.159 Because I was trying to actually find a way to 365 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:15.840 be able to get into gt online yesterday. 366 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.759 I was like, I wasn't sure how that works within 367 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:21.360 like you pain a subscription, is it a standalone I 368 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:22.000 couldn't find. 369 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:23.879 Like, I was like, I'm just trying to be able 370 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:25.240 to buy this on PS five and it says it's 371 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:27.559 included in a PlayStation Plus. But then if you have 372 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:29.600 a PlayStation Plus account you get access to it. I 373 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:32.519 have no clue how all that works, and like, so 374 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:35.000 do you think it's gonna be hey, hey, forty bucks, 375 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:35.360 you're it. 376 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:38.159 That's it. No subscription, You're in GTA. 377 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:40.240 Online and then you just buy like the the addition, 378 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:42.279 like you know, like a Fortnite v Bucks. 379 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.000 Kind of deal. Yeah, I think so. 380 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:46.919 I mean the way I worked with GTA five was 381 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:50.080 it didn't launch day one, Okay, it was included in 382 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.080 the price of buying GTA five. You got GTA GTA 383 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:55.519 Online as part of that. Now, let's since we're talking 384 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:59.080 about this, let's bring this up. Rockstar describes the November 385 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:01.720 release as featuring a single player experience. They don't say 386 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:05.960 singleplayer experience only. But that's all they say with neither 387 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:09.440 edition or anything. None of the ultimate bonus is making 388 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:13.720 any reference whatsoever to GTA Online. So I think it's 389 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:16.159 very safe to assume GTA Online is not coming day one. 390 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:18.799 I think everyone assumed that, and but here we are. 391 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:21.159 So when it does come, Like, do they have a 392 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:24.639 different business model, Steve, I don't know. I think they 393 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:26.919 will want to sort of just do what they did 394 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.519 last time because it worked. It kind of worked better 395 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:31.559 than it's ever worked for any game ever where this 396 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:35.159 online mode being included in GTA five and giving you 397 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.720 some bonuses for that online mode once you buy GTA 398 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.399 five caused people to buy that game, and apparently it 399 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:42.879 caused people to buy that game multiple times because they 400 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.080 would see it on sale and be like, Oh, if 401 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:46.919