Speaker 1: I made a decision. Sunny sound, I had a vision.
It's nice. What's up everybody, it's our Friday show. Uh,
Stephanie still in the pilot's seat. You're doing great stuff.
Thank you so much. Really are you doing good? Thank you? Yeah,
you're a little better than what's his face? What's his
name again? What was his nose?
Speaker 2: I forgot his name at this point. No, Kaylan, we
love we loved Kaylin. But you know what I'm gonna
say this about Kaylin, it was like pulling teeth to
get him to tell any stories about like his kids.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a dad.
Speaker 2: I know I probably have more stories about his kids
than he.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, but he's always been that way. He's not
very big talker. No, he's just kind of the behind
the scenes tech guy. But yeah, it was like pulling teeth. Yeah,
how was your weekend? Good? How's the kids good?
Speaker 2: I know, in case anybody is wondering, like or thinks
we didn't let him talk. Every time we would come
in here every Monday, we'd be like, Kaylin, do you
have any stories? And he'd go, nope, how do you
not have stories?
Speaker 1: You're in the mailroom? I know, Well, maybe he's not
in the mail room. Maybe that's the problem. That's the problem,
he said, the dad. He's not the default parent. No,
but he still is going to games and stuff. He's
very very supportive. Yeah, but he's just doesn't he has
just by proxy, he should have some stories, you'd think. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, he just doesn't want a bad mouth like other parents,
like he would. But I think he was worried he'd
get in trouble because he's still at that point where
like if he says the right thing, it could get
amy in trouble.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean. Also, maybe he just
doesn't really maybe he learned his lesson from us. Like
I called into the principal's office. We've been listening to
your podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it over the years, we have gotten ourselves.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of trouble. We were very like, yes,
I mean telling missus Thompson that she maybe she needs
a hormone hormonal planets because she's hot all the time
and she's blowing the kids out with freezing them to
death with their air. My mood swing the jet was
the program. Yes, I mean I have like a visceral
reaction to even thinking about it like that. That moment
of when the guy was like, we heard your podcast. Now,
didn't he say something first, please take it down? Well no,
but didn't he say like, I want to talk to
you And You're like, oh, what does he want to
talk to me?
Speaker 2: Is to tell me that because Elbie had just auditioned
for West Side Story, he had said, Hey, I want
to talk to you.
Speaker 1: So it was pretty much after the fact.
Speaker 2: So he had said I want to talk to you
the next the next time I see you, or whatever
I want to talk to and it was kind of
the main guy who was my friend. Yeah, so I
hadn't so I was like, oh, okay, I wonder what
he wants to talk to me about. So then Elbie
found out her part and she had gotten Anita, which
she had auditioned. Like listen, in their defense, they never
punished Elbe right, yeah, okay, they gave her a good part.
And I was so So she comes into the car,
She's like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I got Anita.
Speaker 2: By the way, they want to talk to you. So
that's why I was so like, couldn't be anything bad.
I was like, oh my god, I think they probably
know someone that maybe is an agent. They want Elbe
to like talk to like, I have my head got
so well.
Speaker 1: I think any mom at that point I would have thought,
to our potential, I just really want to talk to
you about Elbie's future, or you're just such a great mom,
like how do you do it?
Speaker 2: Like can you help other parents? A great supportive mom?
Like all these things. So I was very like what.
Speaker 1: Said.
Speaker 2: I was shocked. Also, you have to remember it was
what wasn't that many years ago? But Elbe would have
been in the sixth grade.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, I mean we've been doing the podcast for years,
but I don't think we've gotten caught a lot at
that point.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think we were thinking that the podcast
is out there.
Speaker 2: To so many people talk about it. Yeah, I don't
think I ever in a millionaire's thought say what to me?
You're going to tell them?
Speaker 1: Yes? And when the principal told me, she goes, well
we all, we we all, She said to me, like,
we all we do listen to the podcast. I was like, stop, don't.
Why why do you listen? No? Don't? I was like,
is there a way to it?
Speaker 2: Like back on, I feel violated, Like right, I know,
feel business, that's none of your free speech?
Speaker 1: What Yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna make me feel like I can't share about you.
Speaker 1: Right, That's what everybody loves to you kidding. You guys
are like the star of the show. I come in
talking about your teachers. People love it because they can relate.
So keep it up, like, don't listen right, right, And
I went off on that theater company because if you recall,
there were a lot there were I had some issues.
Speaker 2: Well, they had really made all my kids cry. Now
are my kids over sensitive?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Should they maybe have like should I have toned it down?
Speaker 1: Also? Yes?
Speaker 2: But I mean it was a good story, and also
I was it was they did really treat it like
it was Broadway, And that was my main gripe. Right,
I don't think I said. I really didn't call anyone out, No,
you didn't who specifically. I just said, like, it's ridiculous
they take themselves so seriously and like they made it
l be like really upset. And then Xander and Sadie
had to audition. I was like, they don't let the
parents in the room, like, which, looking back, I'm like,
I can actually kind of understand that, right, they don't
want the mom in there. But in the background, like
I know, gesturing and doing dance moves like they wanted to.
But but they're the kids were in second grade. They
allow second to fifth grade, so their second grade they're
they're kind of babies, and they act all serious, like
they act like you're in like.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: What was you know, like an audition for Juilliard. Yes,
where there's a panel of watches and they can't smile
at you and it's super serious and they act like that,
and then they go okay, and then you have to
like do a song and you have to read from
the script. They were very intimity second grade, and they
left like upset, yea scared. So I was like, that's
just so unnecessary, was all I was basically saying.
Speaker 1: And then he's some fucking mom.
Speaker 2: Probably still listens because we got our we got our
freaking hate listeners.
Speaker 1: That love to like I think you should know I
think you should know him. They were talking to.
Speaker 2: Freaking mom who listened to the show. And by the way,
Julie Caseum also had the same bone to pick with them,
like we would get together and bitch about it. So
I felt like I was surprised in the end that
somebody was like sticking up for them, right, you know
what I mean that somebody would love them that much
that they had to go report me, right, Wow, probably
like some kind of like Texas cheerleader mom, like wanted
to get rid of the competition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted LB out.
Speaker 2: Of the mid Yes, yes, heard about elbie knew she
was going to be booking all the story. I don't know,
but they Yeah. So when I had all built up
in my head, this is going to be a great conversation.
And then and it was a little panel of them.
It wasn't just my guy. It was my guy who
I like. But then it was like the two other
heads of that company and they're all standing there kind
of like looking down and he's like, yeah, we heard
your podcast. First of all, you need to take it
down right away. People are very upset. And then he
told me a mom, another mom from a from school
called us to tell us, and we all listened to
it together, pretty harsh, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, for anybody that doesn't have a podcast, that
feeling is like when you send like you're talking shit
about somebody and you send an email or a text
and you send it to the person you're talking shit about. Yeah,
and you're like, oh fuck, that's what that feeling feels like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so busted. You feel like you've been caught shoplifting. Yeah, like,
what's gonna happen your life? For your eye?
Speaker 1: I remember I got a text even recently, like all
I saw was the mom's name and I just became
kind of friendly with her in the Latin the senior
year of school, and we were texting, very friendly. And
I see her text and I see her name and
it said all I see is I just found your podcast.
And I was like wow. But then I opened it
and she goes, oh my god, you guys are hilarious.
I was like, okay, because I'm like, but because they
did talk about hurst the situation was a while ago.
I was getting those letters, those weird letters. Oh yeah, yeah,
this was she was. She was getting the same She
was getting the weird letters too.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you thought she might be like, I can't
believe you were talking about that.
Speaker 1: Situation, right, That's what I thought, because yeah, because her
because her son got you know, accused of really bad
stuff which never was true and got debunked and I
shut it down, which I talked about. I think on
our I think I talked about it on Patreon. I
think so yeah, I mean I could apparently tell it
on the show, but but yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Know it got debunked.
Speaker 1: Well, I caught the woman that was doing it right,
right right, So okay in a nutshell, Basically, we were
getting these letters and it was like in the senior year,
and and it was like it was coming from another
mom that's like you're having all these parties at your house.
And then two other parents got the same time a
letter because they had parties and like you know, there's
like sex and drugs and going on in your house
and blah blah blah. And then like a cute like
just accusing like certain boys of doing stuff with girls
and stuff like that. And it was like what you know?
And I had to ask Sonny because like I was like,
did this you know this at a party? I don't
know if I was at the party, when was this party?
It was kind of vague, and then it like and
then it was like sent to another letter came like
to oga, like you're buying the kid's alcohol and stuff
like that, and it's like who is saying like why
are they saying this? Anyway, it took like a year
because it came trickled in here and there, like three
letters total. I had to get Mark Garagos on it.
Like we kind of were like whittling it down. Italia
was like she was had an idea who it was.
Turns out this boy, this girl that went to another school. Uh,
this guy broke up with her and then he started
hanging out with Natalia and they were doing TikTok together
and stuff like that, but he broke up with her
this other girl and then was friends with Natalia. Turns
out it was this girl's mother sending these letters. That
is so yes, over the top crazy. It took like
a year to figure out. We narrowed it down. And
then this mom that I became friends with, who her
son got attacked and that was that was the That
was the boyfriend that broke up with her, that was
the kid. It was her son that broke up with
the girl. And then the girl's mom. So then she
tried to call with the girl's mom and she was
ignoring her calls. She wasn't answering and she didn't accuse
her of anything, but she started and she's like she
just goes to me all of a sudden out of nowhere.
Then I called her because I don't know this mom.
I called her out of the blue and my name,
my name comes up, and she didn't answer anyway. I
got her on the phone finally, and I could tell.
I said, I have a strong feeling that these letters
are coming from you, you and your daughter, and you
better fucking knock get the fuck off. You're fucking with
kids' lives. These are lies. You did it because your
daughter got broken up with and you were jealous and
that was the only reason, which makes you sick in
the fucking head. That's what I said. And she's and
I go and and when I get the full I
know what you And when I get the full proof,
because I have lawyers looking into it, you're gonna get prosecuted.
I'm coming after you. Because this was just after it
was somebody in the in the in the media. Another
mom in like Minnesota did the same thing and she
got like ten years prison time or something, and I
was like, I'm coming after you, so you better fucking
knock it off. Turns out they took her daughter out
of the school, they moved to Orange County, sold the house.
Lest what you never told me this, Yeah, that was
what did she say back to on the phone. At
first she was like, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah,
I heard about the letters, but I don't know what
you're talking about. And then when I started getting aggressive,
and I was like, well, I think you do know
what I'm talking about. I have evidence that you know
you know what I'm talking about. And I said you better,
you better fucking knock it off. And I said, if
you want to confess, tell me now, and I'll stop
everything and nothing will happen. I won't press charges, but
if you don't confess now, I'm coming after you. And
then she got quiet and she put me on speaker
and I go, oh, you have to put me on
speaker so your husband has to listen. I go, you
better fucking not get the fuck off. You're sick in
the head. These are all lies. You did it because
your daughter, blah blah blah. And she was like, uh, okay,
well that's how you feel. I go, if that's how
I fucking feel, anything else you want to say anything else?
And she's like no, if that's your opinion, I go, okay,
well you'll be hearing from my attorneys. I'm going to
be pressing charges. Goodbye. And then a month later she
was out of the school and they moved Orange County.
They left, Wow, sold their house. Yeah, because this bitch
is sick in the head. I still have these letters
and they're all lies, all because her daughter got her heartbroken.
People are crazy, Yes, yeah, crazy, I know. And I
talked about this on Patreon. But now it's been so long.
Speaker 2: You talked about the letters part, but you might talk
about confronting.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't. No, yes, yeah, found out who what
it was for you? Yeah? Thank you?
Speaker 2: Was your heart beating before you did it?
Speaker 1: It was I just got home from Jimmy's Christmas party,
actually because I called her on the way there. Because
I called her a couple of times, she was not answering,
and I left her messages, and then I tried her
again and the other moms. I try her again, and
then she I got home at like ten o'clock and
then she called me and she goes, hello, is this Lynette?
You just you left me a message? So it just
got home from the Christmas party, and you know it,
a couple of wines in me. So I was like,
let's go. I wasn't drunk or anything, but I was
just like fuck that. Yeah, and that was that. That
was the end of that story.
Speaker 2: Wow wow that since Yeah, And.
Speaker 1: Did anybody ever hear from the girl again?
Speaker 2: Like how did you guys even know she moved to
Orange Cang.
Speaker 1: Because she's in a little click with these girls at
the other school that Natalia knows that the Italian became
friends with, and they knew that. And then and then
the mom, the mom of the boy that broke up
with her, that's the mom that I became friends with.
And we put it two and two together. We figured
it out and we narrowed it down, and it was like, yeah,
she's not answering. She wasn't answering. She was like, we
were best friends where our kids were boyfriend and girlfriend
for a year. We were hanging out and this daughter,
her parents were like pushing her as a model online
and having her sell things online and trying to push
her into showbiz and stuff like that, and she kept
wanting to do tiktoks with this boy, and the boy
never wanted to do it. And when then she saw
him doing a TikTok with Natalia et set her off.
I guess you know, so between me and this other mom,
we figured it out because she's like, we used to
be good friends. But then when her son broke up
with her daughter, she started ghosting her, like didn't talk
to her. It kind of is reminding me of the
and now I can't but I'm not going to be
able to remember the girl's name. But did you see
the thing?
Speaker 2: There was a documentary recently about the girl who Oh
my god, I want to call her Parker.
Speaker 1: What's her name?
Speaker 2: Big TikTok star, YouTube star? Oh my god, I'm going
to kill myself for not being good. Sorry, that was
a little hard for myself.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to kill myself.
Speaker 2: I'm upset that I can't remember the name of this
girl that my kids would make fun of. But there
was this big scandal of her and she had a
bunch of kids that they brought in to do videos
together and they were like over sexualizing her. Oh yeah,
it is a big documentary that was out two parter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was on Netflix.
Speaker 2: That was a similar thing where the parents were getting
upset because some of the kids were they were like
invited in, yes.
Speaker 1: But then they were kicked out the group, right right this.
I mean it was like a whole year of this drama. Yeah,
And it was like, oh, we got another letter and
it was addressed to Lynette Paradise, Corolla, which the only
place that says that is my Instagram and they're all
over Instagram. This family was all over Instagram, her daughters. Yeah,
that's the only place that says it. So the letters
came to and then one to Olga like you're buying
them alcohol and stuff. It's like, bitch, Olga fucking needs
them in the fucking ribs. She's not buying them alcohol, right,
she's skimming a little smack, you know, like that you
have no idea what you're talking about. And then threatening
that we're going to go to the school. They kept saying,
We're going to go to the school and tell the schools,
tell the school that this is what's going on at
your house and stuff. And it's like, because this guy
did a TikTok with Natalia in my backyard when their
friends were over like that, you know. And then these
other parties that they went to they sent letters to
them to like it was this woman like was nuts.
It really does sound like that Texas cheerleader murder. Yes,
you know if that was all the mom? Yes, And
how do I know it's not the daughter and the
mom is because there was something in the letters. I
can't remember. I have to think about it, but I
know for a fact because I was like, well, maybe,
because it could have been the daughter the whole time,
but no, it was the mom because only a mom
would know. They did something with my post office or something.
Oh they Natalia had a street sign that the kids
like took down, and so she had it in her
bedroom in the background, and so a sheriff came to
the door and said, we got a complaint that there's
a that you there's a street sign in your house
and like your kids stole it or something. But he
was so nice. He was like, yeah, I'm sure the
wind blew it down or something. He's like, we just
want it back. But I got the complaint. So I
was like, oh, who complained? She's like, he said, I
think it was a He just said, I can't tell you,
but it was a woman that called. And I was like, okay,
what you know? Wow? Yeah, so that it was bizarre.
It was going that is nasty. It was nasty. Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we do deal with some crazy parents.
Speaker 1: We do.
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with like you know, like the mom that I did
the dramatic reading about right, she was crazy, like everybody
else knew she was crazy too, Like there are crazy people.
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Speaker 2: It was reminding me and it was something we talked
about on our zoom. Huh was some of the ads
that for stuff we didn't like, which it's been It's
it's rare that there's something that we genuinely don't like.
Speaker 1: And we were.
Speaker 2: Actually talking on our zoom about some of the products
we've had that we do like. But I did think
of one that we didn't mention on on our zoom.
I hate that we're so close to it to an
ad break. We like these products. We like the products
we're talking about now, But we had this one that
remember when we were doing ads for Jenny Kine.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and I was like, I and we.
Speaker 2: Had them again recently. I think I had him over
on Rose Pricks and I was just like, oh my god.
And sometimes Tom listens to our show, but you know what,
it's okay, he'll be okay, But Jenny Kine is so
freaking overpriced.
Speaker 1: It's overpriced. And it's not a track at tim. It's
like it's if you walk into like a beach boutique
like in Malibu and they all everything's the same color
and kind of boring. Yeah, yes, and it's just like
boring and and then it's like you look at it,
go okay, this is a nice shop. Three hundred and
eighty bucks. Yeah you know what I mean. Like, and
their shoes were kind of dorky. Well there's sweaters too
that are just like look very basic to me. Their
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Four is the only thing, like I guess like some
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actually use. Yes, you know, great that I use that,
especially that I try and I go, oh my god,
I love the you know I actually like this, right,
But sometimes you're just like all right, I'll pretend to
like it, but like I mean I did. We they
sent us stuff and it was like okay, but I'm
not I would never re buy this.
Speaker 1: No, it was just really overpriced for such basic.
Speaker 2: Like a couch pillow. It was literally four hundred dollars
for just a pillow, like a pillow.
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to home goods. Yeah, you know.
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Speaker 1: Boom? Okay. So I was watching a couple of things
this weekend. It's been quiet because an Italian has been
gone and Sonny's been home and but tons of laundry
with these kids. But so I was waiting up for
him one night and I was gonna watch use some
laundry sauce. I gotta give me laundry sauce. I do
gotta get I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 2: You should just order it, just spend the money.
Speaker 1: Come. They're not on our show.
Speaker 2: Wait, they were test they tested our show and then
I don't know, I don't know if maybe they'll be
on our show.
Speaker 1: But like all, I'm just still selling.
Speaker 2: I'm selling laundry sauce.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, I should go.
Speaker 2: I should join it like an affiliate program.
Speaker 1: You should they have it, I should just call them
high laundry sauce.
Speaker 2: I like your shit, Like, how can I get paid
for if people anyway?
Speaker 1: Go on? Go on?
Speaker 2: So uh laundry.
Speaker 1: So okay. So I'm sitting there folding clothes and I'm
watching The Titan, the Story of the Titan, the Submerciful though.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I want to watch that. Is it really depressing?
Speaker 1: Though? Okay, there's two of them. So I watched the
first one I watched. I thought it was just one
on Netflix, and I watched it, and it was really interesting.
But it was very they It was very The Netflix
one was more about how it was built. You know,
he had to use these carbon carbon fibers to write. Yeah,
so that was like the most of it, and and
then and then but and then, But it was also
a lot of like all the failures that happened leading
up to when the thing, you know, drastically or tragically exploded.
It was like, no, it was coming. They knew. He knew.
The guy that was the CEO that was in there,
he knew eventually it was going to do that. He
was just one of these guys who was a billionaire,
didn't care couldn't take wouldn't take no for an answer
when people question, like, hey, this thing's like not going
to hold very long under the water under the pressure
because it was made by this this this carbon shit
that is not made for water. It's not supposed to
be and that's what the whole thing was made out of.
Speaker 2: And they tested it before, right, but never that deep.
Speaker 1: They tested it. They went down, they went down a
few times to the Titanic and and people were in
you know, they were talking about it and they were like, yeah,
I enjoyed it. They took you know, video and it
was great and blah blah blah. But after I think
it was the eighty first time it went down is
when it exploded. But so the Netflix one was like
more heavy on that. Then then I fell down the
rabbit hole. I was like, I want to see another thing.
So then I was like, I think there's another. So
there was one on Hulu. Hulu is better, Hulu is better.
They talk They talked to these people that worked at
the company and how they went to him and tried
to get him to like, hey, this is not right,
you know. Uh. And by the way, like there was
a oh, there was a Discovery reporter who was doing
a documentary on him and his submerciful summersemmers. And wasn't
his son in it too? No, it was him, and
then another millionaire that bought that wanted to go on,
and another uh biochemical or bio mechanical engineer that worked
with him. He even knew that something was going to happen,
and he said to one of his friends, you know what,
if I go out, I go out like but that,
and his friend said on camera, that's fine if that's
how you feel, but don't let these other passengers. Then
there was a guy and his son out of Vegas. Okay,
oh you know they they were bought tickets to go
on and they were they were The son looked into
it and found out that this material that he's using
is not great material for what he's doing and told
his dad, this doesn't sound great. We should pull out.
So they pulled out. At the last minute. When they
pulled out, the CEO kept texting him going are you sure, Well,
we'll lessen the price, We'll give you half off. Are
you sure? Are you sure? And they were like no, bro,
we're good, We're you know. So, then this other from Pakistan.
A millionaire father and son took that and the wife.
There was a father son, the mom and the daughter
and they were on the ship together and the mom
was supposed to go on with the husband and that
the last minute, the twenty year old son wanted to
do it, so she let him go. So they were
on the ship when the ship went missing. But the
incredible thing is is that the Discovery Channel reporter did
a story and was with this guy and they showed
these clips of him taught and going into the you know,
submarine and like trying, and then they were going down.
They were going to go down deep and then they
had to abort. There was always no It was very
he said, it was very unprofessional. It was always these
loud crackling noises whenever. And he said, you're gonna hear
these crackling noises, but that's normal. Well, it's the fucking
it's the carbon fiber that's breaking. You're gonna hear noises,
but that's fine. It's falling apart. Just just ignore about it.
As I used my PlayStation to guide it like that
was crazy. So the Discovery Channel guy did this whole
thing and they show clips of him in the thing
and interviewing him the thing, and he was like, immediately
like this is not My instincts are telling me this
is not safe. And he went to the Discovery president
of the Discovery Network and said, I don't feel like
we should air this. We would be a disservice to people.
We should not air it. So they scrapped it.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yes, yes, So this is all on the
Hulu version.
Speaker 1: This is on the Hulu version. And on the Hulu version,
I don't want to spoil it. But at the very
end they show video of the people on the deck
on the main boat while they were under and they
heard something and it sounded like a door slamming, but
it was loud, and you see her look up and
she goes, what was that? And then she gets a
text from inside and the last text they sent was
something about you know something, and so she got the
text that was the explosion. So she got the but
they didn't know it because the text came after the explosion,
but because of they were they were texting from inside.
Sometimes it takes a while, right and that you hear
that that's what happened. Yeah, the Hulu one is much better.
It's so interesting. It was like watch it. I kept
wanting more. I was like, I want to know more
about this guy was so reckless. He was fucking reckless.
He's just one of these guys. He was trying to
be like an Elon Musk, you know, taking risks and
thinking outside the box. And there's like a point when
you think outside the box, but then you don't want
to get reckless, and then you're selling tickets for people
to come on board to this thing. Yeah, fucking nuts.
Like if you want to be on a suicide mission,
you do it with your pal. The other guy that
went on said he's the one that said, you know,
if it happens, it happens, it's a good way to go.
That was the other guy, wasn't the CEO guy that
said that. That's then YouTube though, But what you bringing
these people on board? Like there are all these other people.
There was a girl that like put all her life
savings into going to see the Titanic and then she's
in there in their videotape and she's like cried when
she saw it, and it's it's just incredible, like the
footage and stuff. It's really good. I highly recommend it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna watch it. I've seen it, I've gone
past it. It always comes up on my Netflix homepage
and I'm always.
Speaker 1: Like, ah, yeah, i'd be depressing. Yeah, we watched something
else first, right, No, it was, it was it is depressing,
but but you watch how there was so many it
was unnecessary for that to happen. There was so many
warning signs. So many people went to him, People went
to you know, the lenders. I read people that were
giving him money. Nobody would he would fire you if
you went against him, like, he would not listen. And
that was that, like he just he it was it
was going to happen, and it's a shame. But he
was on it too, right, he was on it too.
Yeah yeah, five people, what else have you watched? Well?
Then I started watching the Gilco Beach serial Killer. Just
some uplifting right, Like it'st both it's funny when you're
folding laundry, like it's it's just like you could listen
to it, you know, it's like listening to a podcast
while you're fucking doing ten thousand socks.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I don't well, I do
know why, but I've never been you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: What it is. It's I like, as we've talked about
a million times, but I like stuff where people the
psychological part of people going crazy. But I just feel
like serial killers to me are what like slasher films are,
to like the whole genre. It's like, well, they're just
killing about of people because there's something fucked up in
the right right.
Speaker 1: So but this one, this one on Peacock, is different
because this guy was a businessman. He was married, he
was he was living in Long Island, in the community
in Long Island. He was commuting into the Manhattan, you know,
working and he had a he had two kids and
a wife in a shitty, ugly house though, and he
was an architect but lived in a nice, middle class neighborhood.
Was nice, just a normal guy. And he was doing
it before his kids were born and after they were born.
And then the it's a three parter and it's produced
by fifty cent by the way, Oh really yeah, yeah,
So it's three parts, and like the first one, I
have to say, if anybody saw it, like when you
hear the nine one one call in the very beginning,
I got chills, like I literally like stopped when I
heard because she's like running away from him, and she's like,
what are you doing? No? Stop stop. She's like somebody's
after me. He's going to kill me. And she's like,
what are you doing? No, what are you gonna do
to me? She says, what are you gonna do to me? Stop? Stop?
And then it goes and going on hello, hello, hello,
and she went missing. Anyway, that that was one of
his victims. But he was doing it for so long,
and his kids and wife would go out of town,
so they came when they rested him. They the cops
came twice and just turned their fucking house upside down
looking because they think that he brought them into his
basement because he sealed it off to the family and
said like this is my gun room and my memorabilia,
and they've they've been in that room before. But they
think that he killed these these people while the wife
and the kids were out of town, like she would
go to Iceland to visit her family for like eight weeks,
and one time when they went, this is one girl
went missing and he killed her. And he called his
wife and said, I made a bit of a mess
in the bathroom. So I redid the whole bathroom. I
have a gift for you. When you come out home,
you have a new bathroom, Like he just redid the
whole bathroom. And so anyway, they feel like that would
be such a dead giveaway. Yeah, I think that for you,
maybe because I could see Adam doing that. But right,
most people like could you imagine John going like, yeah,
I made a mess, so I just redid the whole bathroom.
Speaker 2: Be so happy. But that would never happen, right, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yes, I have to.
Speaker 2: Be the one that's like, our bathroom is like ridiculous,
like we really should redo it. And then we go, well,
let's compare prices, let's look, let's get a couple of quotes.
I mean, right, I would never ever happen. And I
just don't see that. I feel like the wife should
have been like you're a serial killer.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's the thing. So they interview her and
they you know, they showed on the news when they
were raiding the house, and she came back with her daughter.
Their kids are adults, they're like in their twenties, and
she's like like she's got red hair, and she's like
yelling at the cops like leave it the fuck alone,
Leave it the fuck alone, because they were all, i
mean all the press in front of that house, you know,
and they just got back to their house. Their house
was torn upside down.
Speaker 2: So at this point they don't know. So at this
say that he's a serial killer.
Speaker 1: They know, they know he was arrested for it, but
they're like what, like could you imagine John getting arrested
for a serial killer? And then your kids are like
what you know what I mean? Like that's they were
just like what the fuck? They never ever there's pictures
of him at parties with the kids, like, you know,
just like, oh John Wayne Gacy guy you know, had wife,
kids and you know, and lived his second life, and
they were just like so this this is them talking
to the cameras about what happened, how they've that day,
you know what happened. I'm going to watch this. Yeah,
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we're on jury watch. I know you're going to bring
up You're going to get me in trouble, trying to
get you, trying to avoid all of the salads on
our on our page that are so mad at me.
Oh stop, everybody, relax, I mean, listen.
Speaker 2: I understand why a lot of people feel that Karen
read is innocent.
Speaker 1: I do. I understand, but like people yet they're kind
of yelling at me. Oh my god, Stepanie, It's not
just you. I'm followed a couple Facebook pages on the
Karen Reid trial and they go insane. They go nuts,
They're like they get they start going at it with
each other. It's crazy. People feel so passionately about this.
I just find it fascinating. I just feel like the
reasonable doubt is there's so much reasonable doubt. There is
reasonable doubt. I'm not going to take that away from anybody.
Some weird shit happened with the Proctor. I understand that
there were some things that could seem like maybe something
else happened, But to me, there's also clear evidence that
she hits somebody with her car. She had a collision
in her car. She backed up going really fast and
she had a collision, and she told a bunch of
people I clipped.
Speaker 2: I think I clipped him. I think I hit him.
Speaker 1: See I don't find that I know what you're saying.
When she's saying, I, you know, I hit him or
I clipped him or whatever. I don't now, Like I
listened to it again, I don't find it weird because
she's kind of a like a loud mouth, and she's
just the way she's like Jen Jen is he dead?
Is he? You know? She's just like she's very fanatic
and impulsive person, and I feel like that could be
something that she would have said, like I clipped him,
I clipped you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so I don't know if I find that angry
with him.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, right, well she was she was angry when
she when he wasn't coming home. I don't know if
they were fighting in the car. She said they were.
They were fighting, and they literally said we were in
a fight.
Speaker 2: We had a big fight.
Speaker 1: But but he was she was supposed she was waiting
to see if she should come in. That's what make
doesn't make sense. I don't think she was.
Speaker 2: I think he was like fuck off, were broken up,
like you're crazy, and got out of the car with
a glass in his hand.
Speaker 1: Okay, But then I think ARCA, the ARCA experts, the
actually accident reconstruction guys. There was two of them. They
were in the last trial on this jobt They were
hired by the FBI, which the jury doesn't know. They're
not supposed to talk about that. But they were hired
not by the defense, but the FBI. And they say
there was no collision. There was no collision, and they
had all the science and this and that and blah
blah blah.
Speaker 2: But the prosecution also had science saying that there was
a collision. So I guess it just comes down to
your are you going to believe right? I feel like
the defense is like, well, here's a lot of other
ways it could have happened, which I understand that the
defense doesn't have to prove how it happened. They just
have to say that it didn't happen the way that
the prosecution is saying it. But it's like, okay, so
the dog, So he died from a couple of dog bites.
Speaker 1: No, But the thing now, I think somebody hit him.
I think that he got in a fight and he
fell and hit his head, could have fell down the stairs.
But the dog bite thing, how come there was no
There was no lights stuck in his in those skin,
that in those wounds, There was no tail lights stuck
in those wounds, and it was it was pig DNA,
which is weird and just the there's a video too
that the defense showed. You look at it. The defense
showed the and they played it a couple of times,
and somebody else played it online. When she's you see
when you zoom in and she's leaving John O'Keefe's house
going to go look for him, her light is lit up.
They're saying that it got damaged and the diffusers were out,
and that's not what you see in there. In that video,
you can see her light lit up. Her light is
like looks intact and it's lit up, and it looks
like that when they're towing it away to take it
to the Sally Port. I just think that there's so
much reasonable doubt, you know, I think the cops fucked
it up. They tried to pin it on her within
eighteen hours.
Speaker 2: Well I don't think they.
Speaker 1: Don't without looking into And also, like Jen McCabe, she
gets to the house and her the guy in the
house is a detective, Like he's not just a cop,
he's like a seasoned, veteran detective and whatever, like helped
with the bombing the Chicago, I mean the Boston bombers
and stuff. He doesn't come out of the house, and
she's the sister line. She doesn't think he's laying on
the ground. She calls name one. But like, there's there's
people in that house that know what to do. Why
didn't she go and get them?
Speaker 2: There's a lot of so I completely agree with you.
There's a lot of weird stuff. These are not good cops. Yeah,
these are bad cops. Nobody's trying to say like, hey,
these are all just good people that were And.
Speaker 1: There's a there was a cop that was on Billy
Bush's show that used to work for the Boston Canton
Police Department, and he said that they've there. It's not
the first time that they've done something like this. There
was another case that he brought up where they were
shady and tried to pin it on somebody else. So yeah,
and then that cunt that was up there going like,
my name's Devers. You know it's answered. Did you see her? Yeah? Yeah? Uh.
She she got a pay raise, She got like one
hundred and seventy percent pay raise after they took her
from the Canton. Now she's at the actual Boston Police Department.
She got promoted and got a huge raise. And then
she's getting called up to talk to the commissioner that
time when it happened, because she said that it looked
like they were in the sally Port too long. Did
you hear her testimony? That thing is weird too.
Speaker 2: And then she recanted that and said that she couldn't
have been there, So I sort of feel like that's
the opposite that she was told to say that.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: I mean she was like, I couldn't have been there,
I couldn't have seen what I said I saw. So
something's fucking weird about that too. Yeah, I mean there's
a lot of weirdness.
Speaker 1: We're not going to solve it. I mean, I am
freak air and read.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they can put her in jail
with all of the reasonable doubt. But I think that's
on the cops. I think she did that. I don't
think I think it would have been too hard for
them to come up everybody. He's drunk, like, for them
to suddenly figure out this mastermind this plan and get
everybody to have the same story to cover up for it.
I think she hit him, left him for dead, and
then maybe they were like, oh shit, we can't have
like this could look bad for us. Maybe they did
something afterwards. But I think she's borderline. I think she
was absolutely would go into rages against him, and I
think he was like even a little bit scared of her.
And I think she backed up and hit him because
I don't know how you get around the car data
that showed that she hit him and then his phone
going out.
Speaker 1: The phone never showed that he walked into the house.
So I don't think that, Yeah, I know, I don't know. Yeah,
I just I'm just curious what it's going to be.
I don't know, Like I think they got her though
on drunk driving though, right, I think that's one of
her charges.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that would be the least of it. It's
also amazing how she's like, yeah, you know, I had
some drinks or whatever, but like I was, I wasn't drunk.
It's like the next day her blood alcohol was still
three times the legal limit. That's how drunk she was.
She's like, I could still drive like I you know,
she's one of those that's like I drive better when
I drink, and like we're.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Yeah, she was her own just.
Speaker 2: To feel the alcohol. You're one of those people. You're
the rare person who can have so much to drink.
And then when she was complaining about how they water
down her drink like that you're on trial for murder
and you're like, yeah, I mean this bar freaking you
know my drink. I was like this tastes like water,
Like this tastes like funky water. And then and then
John was like, why don't you just pour in your
own vodka into.
Speaker 1: The you know what I mean? It's like, what are
you talking about? She's but that's what I mean, I
think that she's just a blabber like she just doesn't
she doesn't hear her own what she's saying sometimes, and
she does, she doesn't come off as very likable. Obviously,
she has some kind of weird personality disorder. I gave
orderline yeah, because the way she was reacting and like
jan Jen, you know, like he's dead and hangs up
like just craziness.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how did she know exactly where
he was exactly because why because it was exactly where
she left him. She probably didn't think that he died
when she hit him. She probably did think I just
clipped him. He's She probably was like he's not going
to be dead, like, but then when he never came home,
I didn't see her.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't think she was like I'm gonna kill you back,
you know, right, even though that has happened. But I
think she was like fuck you and backed up and
knew that she clipped him and thought I just clipped him.
I think he fell and hit his head and died.
And then when he never came back and never texted her,
she was probably like, oh shit. Then she went into
a rage about it, like, oh, he's probably with another woman.
That's when she started calling him and screaming at him.
But then when he really didn't come home and nobody
knew where he was, then she was like, oh shit,
something happened when I hit him?
Speaker 1: Did I hit him? Did I hit him hard.
Speaker 2: Enough to like kill him?
Speaker 1: Like that's what I think.
Speaker 2: She started to go, oh no, and then raced back
to where she hit him, and then there he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, except the arc experts don't say there was a collision.
Speaker 2: Well I think they're wrong, all right, I feel like
there was something. Oh I was just going to tell
you before we wrapped. Then I went to the No Kings.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, where is there was one in Woodland Hills, right.
Speaker 2: The one I went to. Yeah, there's also Studio City.
But what was kind of funny about it is that
so I'm like I had to go to the poker
thing that night, you know, and I was like, I
really kind of want to go get my brows wax.
And then I woke up in the morning, so John
was going to go without me, and then I woke
up and I was like, Okay, that's freaking lame.
Speaker 1: Like all I do is talk about out like how
you know crazy politics is.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, and now I'm going to be like,
well but my eyebrows. So I was like, that's not
an excuse. So then I said to John, I'm going.
I'm going with you. But what's funny is we went
and you know the how the there's the tapinga mall
and a few blocks before it is the promenade, so
not the village, but a few blocks before that is
called it used to be called it was kind of called.
Speaker 1: The Tapanga mall. Then they built a bigger right, right,
so this was like it had a few stores and
it had the Promenador and.
Speaker 2: It was called the Promenade and yeah, closed down. I
grew up racing, right, so that's all closed. It's all
like boarded up. But there's this massive parking lot there.
So I was like, okay, we got there like right
on time, and so we went to park and I
thought the funniest part was like the liberal democrat like
people that are there being so like, oh we got to.
Speaker 1: Pay for parking to get a ticket, you know, like
that's how freaking calm, Like yes, roll Fall. Really there
was no like where did you guys have Molotov cocktails.
We're like, well, hold on, the molotov cocktails are in
the trunk, and I get those. But first we got
to register for this parking app. I mean, I'm telling you.
It was me and some other freaking.
Speaker 2: Old guys that were like, oh god, we gotta okay,
do we download the app on our phones? Like, and
none of us would leave until we'd fully paid for
some you know how there's a million parking apps. Yes,
every parking lot has the same thing, and it's like
park now excludation point. You got to go on here,
and we're like, okay, did you get to the park
where you put in your credit card?
Speaker 1: Yet? We're all comparing, and then afterwards we all get
legally parked for nine dollars and then the guy's like, okay,
let me get my sign. We're all waiting for each other,
and we almost like walk over there. That's cute. Did
you guys have signs? People have their dogs? No? Because
I was too last minute.
Speaker 2: I wanted to do a sign that said, uh, less kings,
more queens, but then I didn't.
Speaker 1: I saw that kind of sign.
Speaker 2: I think they stole my idea. Yeah, I originated that,
but it was just kind of funny that I was
just like, all right, I'm going but then we just
we were like we added our body to the count. Yes,
but it was really good turnout. It was like was
there a bunch a bunch a bunch. But then there
was also the kind of thing that's funny is where
somebody would start a chant and then you know, it'd
be like no kings, kings, no king, and then there
was another one about Donald Trump. But when you'd start
the chant, yeah, then like somebody gives up on it,
you know what I mean, And then you're the last
one still chanting, and you're still stupid for a minute,
like no kings, no kings, no kings, and then where
is everybody?
Speaker 1: What you guys just left me hanging. It's like when
you like when you got to go like high five
to somebody and they don't high or like you wave
at somebody and they're not waving at you exactly exactly
molded right.
Speaker 2: And then then somebody would start it up again, but
then they quit right away. So then I'd pick I
was you know me, I'm all like, yeah, I'm all
in for the chant.
Speaker 1: And then it was one time it's just me and
then I try to keep up, but I'm just like, no,
it's okay. I'm going to keep it going. And then
John would be how's that going for it?
Speaker 2: Like off, John, now hilarious alone in my chant? Then
like total like the libtards that we are, We're like, okay,
it's twelve fifteen, and John's like, do you mind if
we stop by Costco?
Speaker 1: Because it was right there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm like all right, so we go into Costco.
I get some like cavice, like democracy's at stake. But
you know what, there's a lot of people up again.
Speaker 1: They're continuing the chant. Yeah they got they got it.
You know about my Cevich. We went back out there.
We're holding like some turkey meatballs Sevich and we're like, yeah,
you get sevich Costco.
Speaker 2: This is a new discovery, really, yes, real quick. So
you know I was going to Gelson's and going into
that seafood bar and getting cevich from there. Yeah, but
it's it's like you have to mortgage your house, yea
to buy savich from Gelson. Well, eleven dollars. You get
a big thing of.
Speaker 1: Savice at at Costco and it's delicious. Really, yes, I
highly recommend. Okay, yeah, got to check it out or
then you did your part. Stephanie Good. Did we do
our name shout outs?
Speaker 2: Nah, like we didn't, So let's do it right now.
We got Ashley Chic, she was on our zoom. Stephanie
Stinker Wrinker on zoom. Athena Ginshirt not on the zoom.
Sandra Green not on the zoom. No was she No
unless she came late. I feel like I saw her name.
Jennifer Falls well she fell Yeah, Aaron Dirty Sanchez, No,
not on Leslie Wykoff.
Speaker 1: We don't know why. Alicia's Golante not on the zoom.
Kelly Brandt now, but she is your aunt. Yeah, Rebecca
on the zoo. No, not on the zoom. Gabby and
Missy no shows as you acknowledged it. Though they were
in Vegas or something. They oh, they said something that
makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Vigos Katerina she was having some oral surgery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she could make it. Valerie Bubba Fenway gets out
of the park, Polly Polly, Missus Butterworth, Rita's rock in
that basinette with all of Elizabeth Williamson's kids. Nikki, call
your girl or get on the zoom Kelly and Dick
is prolicking. Yeah, and uh, one more time for Adam Lerner.
Adam Lerner got me a car this week Saturday came,
took the other car, got in no more Tesla bye bye.
Got in fully electric Mercedes and so much cheaper. It's
like amazing, it is great. It's a good car. And
Adam Lerner does everything for you. Yes, he does does everythings.
You any money? And Linette said, do I need to
tip him? And I said, no, bitch, I know. I'm like,
it's amazing. He does anything from the dealership, right, he
gets his fee covered outside of that's what I paid
for it. Yeah, but he.
Speaker 2: Saves like he finds you the very best deal.
Speaker 1: Yes he did want yes, yeah, he went and looked
for it and got what I needed and I love it.
Yeah all right, well thank you everybody, your parent now,
don't if it up. It's good that a