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some Kelly popingas sound some Cougar bytes that were played.
He was on The Coordinator's Corner Show with Gregor Belt
earlier this week. Going to play some sound bites and
break it all down for you before we go to
break and then welcome Darnield Dixon in on the flip.
Let's start with number one, Kelly. Multiple comeback wins this season.
This team is never out of it. It seems like.
Speaker 4: Guys have, you know, been really resilient this year. We're
really proud of just the way that they've continued to
fight and to be able to do some stuff on
the road this year, you know, like we did at
Arizona and this last week. It's been fun to just
see our guys continue to play even though when you
know it seems like things are going well, especially in
that first quarter, we weren't playing the way that we
wanted to play on defense, especially and just to see
our guys fight and the energy on the sideline. I
don't know if you could tell from where you were at,
but man, the energy on this.
Speaker 3: In this game.
Speaker 4: They knew this was a big game for us. That
come out of that place with a win, and you know,
love love to see how we finish.
Speaker 3: That was fun.
Speaker 2: Definitely was a big time win, no doubt the energy
on the sideline. You saw the guys get hype. I
saw everybody around Logally two when he had the Interception's
not just that you got to go back and watch
the cut. I invite every fan to go back and watch
the cut, every media member. The cut is something special
that they do at BYU and they do a really
good job. And it only happens after wins, obviously, but
it's something that they really do a good job putting
all together and you can actually see the emotion and
here what the players say on the sideline because they
always find the camera. So I just want to make
sure that I show love to those that are putting
together the cut. Tyson Hutchins and his crew do a
phenomenal job. I can't remember everybody by name, but they
do a great job. Shout out to Anna Bauer. I
know Trey always mentions her name, so their crew they
take care of it as well. Preston and stew and
all those people up there in the athletic department. Great
job of putting together the cut, all the cameras. Nate
Edwards does a good job. Jared Wolkee, I don't want
to forget anybody that probably am I apologize, but they
do a great job up there. But to Kelly's point,
energy was great on the sideline. He did a phenomenal
job balling out, especially against good Iowa State team. That's
a good win. It's the alia's best win of the season. Utah,
I would say next. I think people were just gonna
say Utah maybe because of rankings and they still think
they can get to the title game. But I think
what Iowa State has done collectively in the Big twelve
and over the years. Have a lot of respect for
Matt Campbell number two. Kelly, what special team's advantages did
you think you're going to have coming into this game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we felt like on our kick return game we
were going to be able to get some stuff done there.
They had some injuries with some kickers. They were having
a hard time getting the ball deep. As you saw
throughout the game. I mean, they were getting into about
the ten yard line most of the time, so we
knew we were going to bring the ball out and
be able to get some field position. The frustrating thing
for us is getting two holding penalties. That very un
characteristic of us of having that happen, and so that
was frustrating, especially we had one return later in the
game where we got out to the forty yard life
they called the holding and I still I was watching
the film this morning, I'm still like the phantom holding call.
I don't know where it was at, but they called it.
But yeah, I thought we could take advantage of them there.
And I really thought in the punt return game too
as well, we could be able to hold up their gunners.
But unfortunately, defensively, it didn't play well enough to be
able to get them in those situations enough to get
those return games going, especially a punt return game. But yeah,
I was very pleased with what happened on the punt team,
and I thought our kickoff team did a good job.
Speaker 2: Toos fun team did a phenomenal job. You got that turnover,
you changed the momentum. Along with a turnover from Logan Litui.
I know the offense gets the points, but I'm gonnave
him seven points to the special teams. They did a
heck of a job right there. It's a block. A
guy into the ball says, hey, this is why you
finish plays. Beniness put out out multiple times on his
Twitter and I agree and I second it. You finish plays,
good things happen. Never give up on a play. This
is why you always get back on defense in basketball.
You don't quit because you never know what could happen.
I do the James Harden play if you've ever seen
the NBA clip where he just turns around and just
casually swipes down. I know that's a casual moment, but
it begs true. The ball deflected off of the person
and the ball went the other way, so you never
know what could happen. This is why you always finish
your assignment and you don't give up on any play.
And the phantom Molden call, yeah, I went back and
I looked. I don't know what they're talking about, but hey,
they called it. You can't do it. Sometimes refs get
it wrong. This is why I believe you should be
allowed to challenge flags and calls. Can't do that, but
they need to make it possible, because again, they're human.
I'm human. I don't do everything right. Sometimes I stutter
over a read. Sometimes I would take that's bad. Sometimes
I thought a coverage was a certain coverage and it wasn't.
They could have checked out of it or checked into
something different. We all make mistakes, but we definitely need
to be held accountable and challenge because of that. So
that probably won't happen, probably ever, but that's something I
will always wish for.
Speaker 3: Number three Kelly.
Speaker 2: The first two possessions of this game had big twelve
shot out ridden all over it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not how you wanted to go for a
defensive guy. But first play the game, we knew they
were gonna throw the ball and coach He'll called the
corner blitz and Evan blitzed and maybe showed a little
too soon.
Speaker 1: And then Folly Towel just.
Speaker 4: Had some bad eyes right there of just not getting
his eyes on a man and his man right there
is one of the better receivers. He did a double
move and got behind us, and yeah, you live and
learn from that, and then you know, proud of Folly
till he came back and played a really good game
after that.
Speaker 2: Se Yeah, I just talked about I said, shout out,
it's shootout. That was the question, Big twelve shootout ritten
all over it. And what Kelly said is true. Evan
might have shown a little bit too early. That could
be something you work on. He definitely was ready to
jump and get in there. He was probably juiced, really excited.
Volatow has his eyes in the backfield, doesn't see the guy,
doesn't get all the way lined up on him, loves
to jump routes, and you know, I think more is
about not getting lined up and having your eyes in
the backfield in a double move, because he really only
like stops for like, he barely even stops. He doesn't
even like sell it all the way. So I just
think it was more about eyes not in the backfield.
Speaker 3: But it happens.
Speaker 2: But like k Pop said, Balatow made up for it
for the forty yard pick six and that's why he
likes to jump routes. Stole the ball away from that
Iowa State tight end and they got some good tight
ends over there. Number four Kelly, Iowa State was driving
and Loa Latui made a massive interception play.
Speaker 4: Paying a lot of like three hundred three deep coverage
with some pressure, and I think he felt like a
similar type of pressure where we had sent earlier, and
I felt like we felt like he thought the flat
was going to be open. This a little different coverage
that we have where our dan buzzes to the flat,
and yeah, he just threw it right to Logan because
I think he thought there's gonna be nobody there and
you know, just Logan doing his thing. I mean, that's
a very simple play to make right there.
Speaker 1: But he's just doing his job.
Speaker 4: And that's what we try to reiterate to our players
all the time. If you just do your job, the
defense is going to help you make plays. And Logan,
you know, once again, he's playing really solid right now
and just comes up with big play after big play
in each and every game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Logan does make big play.
Speaker 2: I mean he was leading the team in tackles up
until about maybe a week or two ago. He's number
four now on the team. But Logan a baller and
because of that, I int by Logan wil friand was
then able to get points coming off that turnover.
Speaker 4: Kelly, Yeah, will Is, you know, he's back in his grew.
I think I thought there for a little bit he
was out of that group for a little bit, you know,
going into the Arizona game, he kind of got out
of that funk. But yeah, that's a really good kick
on the road, a fifty.
Speaker 5: Yarder and would have been good from what he's saying.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think that was gonna be good from sixty.
He was hitting a pre game either way into the
win or with the win, he.
Speaker 1: Was hitting at sixty.
Speaker 4: So I told ay Rob before the game, I said,
if we can get the ball to the forty, we're
going to be in a good spot. And that was
around the thirty three, and so yeah, Will's you know,
hitting the ball solid again, and you know, between the
protection and the operation of everything, it was another good
day for our field goal unit.
Speaker 2: I was ring us up one, would you like to
go through a slump at the beginning of the season,
the middle of the season, or the end of the season.
Probably you're gonna pick the middle. The beginning of the middle,
You're probably not gonna pick towards the end. Will had
maybe a little bit of a slump at the start,
you could say, of conference play, So maybe the middle
of the season, a couple of kicks didn't go asway.
Guess what happens, bounces back phenomenally, does exactly what he's
supposed to do.
Speaker 3: Kelly just said it.
Speaker 2: He was warming up hitting him from sixty, So Will Farren,
that special teams unit, Sam flipping the field. Will's leg
the special teams union that they have that is a weapon,
and that is what's going to allow bou an opportunity
to be able to compete against Texas Tech come next week.
Number six, Kelly getting that scoring, knowing you got the
ball after half, what were you thinking then?
Speaker 1: Exactly when we wanted the halftime.
Speaker 4: It was really just calming the defense down and just
getting them to play the way that we could play.
And we knew if we could start getting stops on
first and second down, get him into third and longs,
which we hadn't done the whole entime.
Speaker 5: Really the biggest change in the game, Kelly, might have
been their third down distance in the first half compared
to the third down distances in the second half.
Speaker 4: Exactly, And as we watched film this morning as a staff,
that was the number one thing we just we were
not executing on first and second down, and really our
run fits were off, and our guys were just you know,
just off the step here there, and sometimes that happens,
but we know what we need to fix.
Speaker 1: We'll get it fixed.
Speaker 4: Coach Hills on it, the rest of our ke staffs
on it, and we'll get it good turned around, just
like we did in the second half. You know, three
points after, you know, the second half going forward. I
think that against that team in the offense was a
big deal.
Speaker 2: Definitely was a big deal. They got it dialed, for sure.
A lot of people had noticed that. I always state
it was getting a lot of yards on first and
second down.
Speaker 3: They weren't winning.
Speaker 2: Look at all the games the ba's played in where
the defense has gotten them off in the field. They
put teams into third and long, third and eight and
nine or longer situations. I always state was third and short,
maybe even fourth in inches, and that's just too easy
when you convert too many first downs. And I would
have to go back and look at the numbers, but
that makes it difficult for your defense to get tired quicker.
And again maybe you have to slow them down. They
might be too juice. But yeah, I think what he
said they got the defense more settled. Maybe they were
a little bit rattled maybe because you hit that quickly.
But once everybody calmed down, they made the adjustments and
they said, all right, time to switch up the entire
game plan. Jay Kelly, Gary Anderson, everybody. They took care
of business, and you saw what happened in the second half.
I would state scored three points number seven, Kelly. This
team got scores on both half opening drives, a touchdown
in the first quarter and a field go to open
the third. What does that say about you guys as
a whole, as a team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was on the opening drive. Yeah, and
that's now ten you know, ten zero in the middle eight,
and that's that's a big deal. And so you know,
if we can if we can finish the half and
start the half in that manner and get ten points
on the board when they're not getting any, that's that's
one of our goals.
Speaker 1: We talk about that.
Speaker 4: Statistic all the time, and so it's a it was
great to see our guys execute. You know, obviously, I
know our offense wants touchdowns right here, but to get
three points on the board to start to have and
keep that momentum going that we had to finish the
second or the first half was a big deal for
our team.
Speaker 5: And that was the fiftieth field goal of Will Farren's
b YU career. Only Matt Payne fifty four when Potchpins
sixty six have made more three pointers in BA football history.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a that's a good deal. It's fun to
be a part of that. Will's been Will has been
fun to have around. Just great teammate, great leader. He's
done a great job with that special teams unit and
so excited to see how we finished is this season.
Speaker 2: Will has been kicking phenomenal. Shout out to Tamil hitting
his fiftieth field goal. And yeah, when you win that
middle that middle eight, ten zero, that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 3: Why you can win the football game. That's the numbers.
Speaker 2: Parker Kinkston City and the media availability might have to
ask him that again and get caught up. But you
win that middle eight and I can't remember the other portion,
but you do both of those things more often than not,
you get the football game victory. And BAU was able
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I think the favorite guest of the station. He's my elder.
I've been saying, respect your elders. I've been saying that
today he knows a lot more about Halloween than me.
I gotta get his favorite Halloween candy and where he's
going for high school football tonight. We got Darnell Dixon
double D on the line. How we living today? Double D?
Hoppy Halloween to you.
Speaker 8: Happy Halloween to you as well.
Speaker 9: Your daughter probably hasn't old enough, but her first Halloween
where she recognizes the trick of knocking on a door,
saying trick or treat and getting handy, the realization in
their eyes just they go.
Speaker 8: This is cool, this is great.
Speaker 9: I remember my son, my oldest son, when he first
recognized how that whole thing works, and how he raced
from door to door from then on, They'll never be
the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, you're right. She has no idea what's
going on. She can't even eat candy, even though she's
got the four teeth coming into next year.
Speaker 3: Next year though, she will so I'm looking forward to that.
But you're not wrong, D.
Speaker 2: Before we get into football talk and basketball talk, what's
your favorite candy? What did you like as a kid
and now as an adult? What's down the Darnell Dixon
the Dixon Family bucket.
Speaker 9: List for Candy, Well, peanut butter is always my favorite.
So you can say peanut butter or M and MS,
but I do have to mention that Target has this
peanut butter monster snack ooh, which is just fan prety fantastic.
Speaker 8: I love that, by the way.
Speaker 9: I would do want to mention before we get into
football and basketball. I just watched the Big twelve women's
across country final and we talk about, you know, Bear
Bachmeier's an amazing freshman and aj debonsa Jane Hedigren, and
I'm not exaggerating, might be the Tiger Woods of distance
running for the women in this United States over the next.
Speaker 8: Decade or so.
Speaker 9: She just won the Big Twelve championship by forty five seconds.
She just ran a sub nineteen minute six thousand meters.
She ran eighteen twenty ninety six, which beat their old
record by more than thirty seconds. It's stunning, how amazing
this freshman is.
Speaker 8: Jane Hedergren.
Speaker 9: Just BYU fans, you love trumpeting about all the great
things going on with football and men's basketball and the
soccer team and the women's volleyball team.
Speaker 8: But now you have something else you can.
Speaker 9: Lord over your Utah fans and others by saying you've
got the best women's cross country freshmen maybe in the
history of the sport right now.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, this freshman is phenomenal. Data Rade high school Gatoray
Play of the Year. She was at the SP's I'm
pretty sure receiving her award. By the way, I'm jealous
because that award, that Gatorade the war looks fire when
you look at how it is, that nice glass award.
That's just one of many that she already has received
and will receive. She is dominant. Yeah, and when you
look at BYU as a whole, you're right. You got Jane,
you got aj I mean, there's so many talented freshman
Baron Bachmeer, you're right.
Speaker 3: And I love this.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you saw this, but on
x Cam who works at BAM, Bams likes to give
back to the BYU athletes and he likes to actually
do programs that might not be as big.
Speaker 3: So I saw him giving back to the gymnastics team.
Speaker 2: So just want to plug and show some love to
the other sports at BYU, because I know that football
drives the ship. Basketball is there too, but BYU is
in the Big twelve because of how much they're able
to compete in these other sports like cross country has
already brought a Big twelve title and has multiple national championships,
and it is not against fuller basketball. They will have
their time. They will get there. I know that they will.
But you have to give credit where credits due. These
Olympic sports have come in and they've made an impact.
So love that you give a plug there.
Speaker 8: Appreciate that, no problem.
Speaker 9: Just want to make sure everybody knows what's going on
in other sports.
Speaker 3: Let's get to it now. Let's get to the football talk.
Speaker 2: Bear Bachmeyer the way he's want to buy as to
remind everybody, eight to no double D is this how
you imagined it to go eight to no star for Byu.
I mean Bear if you compare him to Jake, right
around the same numbers.
Speaker 3: But Jake lost last night.
Speaker 2: Actually the two lane game did not play well, and
Bear Bachmeyer has been playing phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Some people think it's an upgrade.
Speaker 9: Well, it's easy to say it is now because Bayu's undefeated.
I think Jake had a tendency to be a little
more risky with throws on occasion and made some pretty
big turnovers in his career, but also had some pretty
amazing finishes where he led BWA you to victory in
the last few seconds.
Speaker 8: And Bear's done that as well.
Speaker 9: You think about the Colorado game, the Arizona game, Utah
game last week against Iowa State, He's he.
Speaker 8: Can make plays at the end of the game.
Speaker 9: And what I find most amazing is that the coaching
staff and enter Aaron Roderick, the offensive coordinator, they have
the confidence to say Bear's gonna make the decision. He's
going to make the right decision down the stretch. And
so he's been spectacular as a freshman. You know, I
think people can talk a lot about where by you
might be if Jake Retzlop had stayed, because they would
have been ranked a lot higher to start the season.
So we're looking at a number ten ranking right now
with Jake, and if they were you know, eight, No,
they might be in the top five or six. Who knows,
But that's you know, that's just speculation. And when you're
talking about rankings, it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 8: What the AP ranking is.
Speaker 9: It matters what you finish in you know, the college
football playoff rankings, because that's where they're gonna seed you in.
Right now, BYU's in a really good position to earn
one of those spots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, b YU is in a really good position.
They're picked, I think projected go to the title game,
lose against Texas Tech. I'll ask you, and maybe you
might not answer it directly, but I'm gonna ask anyway.
Speaker 3: Do you have.
Speaker 2: BYU projected right now to go to the Big twelve
title game? Can this team be eleven to one or
undefeated going into Arlington December sixth.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how this all
plays out because if they were too and you know,
we can speculate through all of this because we don't
have to take one game at a time. If BYU
is eleven and one going into the Big twelve Championship
game and loses and is eleven and two, I think,
I don't know. I don't know what the committee will
say with eleven and two team out of the.
Speaker 8: Out out of the Big twelve, I don't know what
that will do.
Speaker 9: So BYU has its own destiny controlled if it can
just get to you to keep winning, and if they're
a one loss team after the Big twelve championship game,
definitely they're in. If they're a two loss team, I
think it's kind of tricky because then you've got the
SEC crowing about some of their two and three loss
teams that they should be in. And you know it's
important also if you make the tournament what you're seeded
to see if maybe you can host again. You imagine
hosting a game in December at Lavelle Edwards Stadium for
a playoff game. That would be fantastic, But you know,
one week at a time for the Cougars and coming
up is Texas Tech on the road, which will.
Speaker 8: Definitely not be a very easy game to come out
with a win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have to agree with you.
Speaker 2: I'm with you if BYU goes into the title game
with one loss or even is undefeated, if they get there,
you have to think back to SMU last year only
loss was the BYU that was a non conference very early.
Their second loss came in the title game to Clemson.
They still end up making the College Football Playoff because
the committee is not going to punish you, per their saying,
if you lose in the conference championship. But if BYU
were to lose a game, it would only it can
only be the Texas Tech. In my opinion, I think
Cincinnati TCU, UCF. You were to win the other games,
I don't think that's gonna cut it. I think you
have to lose to the team that they project and
the only reason. And this is why it's so interesting.
SMU got in Darnell, but the loss to BYU actually
helped them because of how good BYU was. I felt
like that played a factor because oh, BYU was the
better team in their record. So it really depends. But
let's talk about the Big twelve as a whole. Who
are the threats now? Because announced earlier this morning. I
don't know if you saw Kenny Dilleham said on the podcast,
I think it was Arizona Sports.
Speaker 3: Sam Levin's out for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: I would have to think now that you know the
Sun Devils are not going to be picked to go
to the Big two of title because Sam Levin's not
gonna play for the rest of the Reindeer of the season.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that will impact some things.
Speaker 9: And you know you're talking also with Cincinnati playing really
well right now and Houston, you know, they they could
go on runs at the end of the season and
put themselves in a position to be in the Big
Twelve Championship Game and make the College football playoffs as well.
You know, you certainly can't count out in Texas Tech,
even though they're having their quarterback issues with injuries as well.
You know, Cincinnati's got a pretty big game this weekend
at Utah that could put derail some of their hopes
in getting to the Big Twelve championship game. It's it's
a conference that and I've been saying this for a while,
is you know, B, why you playing and the pending schedule, B,
why you playing? In the Mountain West Conference, there were
certain games they were expected to win and win by
double digits or by three or four touchdowns, and if
they didn't, it was it was almost disappointing to consider
it almost almost a loss when it came to national
prominence and what what the the voters were thinking and
what the the committees were thinking about it. When you
win a game in the Big Twelve, I don't care
if it's by two or by twenty, it's a good win.
And I think that you know, you give yourself an
ulcer trying to think about, well, you know, Colinie should
have run the score up a little more, or B
why you should have won by more in this game,
you get a victory and you just keep going on.
I think that's proven over the course of this year
that BYU has the ability to find ways to win.
And that's really important because when you're in close games,
that's got to happen. It's nice when you blow out everybody,
and if you're Utah fan, you're thinking, why can we
blow out all these.
Speaker 8: Other teams, but we've lost two close games.
Speaker 9: I think B WHYU benefits from winning these close games
as they continue their schedule because they're gonna play more
close games and they have familiarity with coming up with
the big plays to win. And certainly, like I said,
it would be nice if they could win by three
or four touchdowns in games, but that's not happening right now.
But they are benefiting from winning close ones and that'll
that'll be something that keep an eye on as they
go through the last four games of this this schedule.
Speaker 3: That one in Iowa State.
Speaker 2: If you take away that score that the pick six
about follows Sat Touala, you know it's maybe a close
to the ball game, then people might think so, But
that's BYU.
Speaker 3: They big.
Speaker 2: They play complimentary football on all levels, offense, defense, and
special teams. By the way, just to hit on your
point about Cincinnati, U Tah now favorite ten and a half,
I think that's because I think I don't know if
Cincinnati is running back's not gonna play.
Speaker 3: So the Bearcats have a tough task.
Speaker 2: Darnelle, I guess I'll ask you this, and you're the journalist.
But for the BYU fan, are you are you a
bear Cat fan this weekend to officially knock Utah out
of the title game, because I don't think three losses
is gonna get you in in my personal opinion, Or
are you rooting for the use to derail Cincinnati so
you can have a better chance of staying undefeated at
the top.
Speaker 9: Well, in a general sense, you always want a team
that you've beaten to continue to win games so that
win looks good, right, Yeah, But if you're a BYU fan,
you always love to see misery up up north. So
I think it's difficult for BYU fans to cheer and
to push for. For some BYU fans to push for
Utah to be successful the rest of the season, but
that that definitely does improve BYU's look and their rankings
and and their how the committee sees them when teams
that b YU has beat continued to play well. So
I guess, uh, if you want BYU to to continue
to move up the rankings, then you want Utah to win.
If if you if you want more misery up north,
then you want since Nannie to go into Salt Wake
and get a victory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're not wrong. It comes down to that. Let's
talk about Aaron Roderick. I feel like he and we
had Guy Holliday on the show earlier this week and
he said that, of course the offensive coordinate position is
going to be the most unthankful.
Speaker 3: He said, look at the history at b YU.
Speaker 2: Look at all the play callers, look at all the
signal callers, everybody that's call plays at BA.
Speaker 3: You look at the history of it. You have some legends,
and you do.
Speaker 2: When I thought about that, and when I looked and
I went looked up who it was.
Speaker 3: But a Ra to me is up there as well.
Speaker 2: And I feel like he doesn't get the credit to
have beer Bachmar not just a and no but playing
like he's going to be the freshman, the National Freshman
of the Year, the quarterback player of the Year, and
the freshman of the year in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: I feel like he.
Speaker 2: Still gets discredited at times, and I feel like that's
just not right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And a couple of things to recognize as we're
talking about offensive coordinators, and one of those is it's
a chess match between the offensive coordinator and the other
team's defensive coordinator. And there's some good ones, and sometimes
the other guy wins. You know, they call a play
that they blitz right into the hole of a play
that would work, or you know, you have some matchup
issues where they've got one guy you can't quite control
and it messes you up. So I think you got
to give credit at times to the other guys because
they work hard, they practice hard, they spend late nights
trying to figure out what to do, and sometimes they
win on those one on one situations.
Speaker 8: But and that's one thing.
Speaker 9: The second thing is I think that what we're seeing
from this BYU coaching staff on both sides of the
ball is really good adjustments. They continue to tell us
that teams are playing are showing things they didn't have
ever seen before. And whatever adjustments b why you made
against Iowa State basically led to a twenty four to
three second half. That's pretty impressive to be able to
do that and to take control of the football game.
So I think you've got to give Aaron Roderick, as
they say, his flowers for developing Bear Bachmeyer but also
finding ways to make adjustments to find the right place
when AJ or when LJ. Martin went out and at
the end of the first quarter, you would think that
would have spelled pretty much doomed for the offense because
now they don't really have the run threat and that's
going to allow Iowa State to tee off on Bear
and to force him to throw. And b what you
still came up with great plays and threw for more
than three hundred yards without the threat of l J. Martin,
And their whole game plan is built on l J.
Martin establishing things and then playing off of that. So
the adjustments that Aaron Rodrick and his offensive coaches made
in the second half against iowas s they were tremendous
and so.
Speaker 8: That you have to give credit that way.
Speaker 9: So yeah, it's a thankless job sometimes, and you know
you're counting on as an offensive corner, you're counting on
eleven guys, eleven teenagers, eleven, you know, barely twenties, to
make good decisions and to fulfill whatever tasks you've given them,
And sometimes that works better than others others. But I
think Aaron Roderick's proven over the course of his career
very good developing quarterbacks and very good at finding plays
to make things work. And that's an example what we've
seen this year.
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, it took Jake Gretz Laugh who
arguably could say I had no offers and look what
deal with him Eaton's lovis Jaron Hall, Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at that.
Speaker 2: Honestly, would honestly love to see what he would have
done with you know, Taysom Hill fully to a degree,
but that's maybe the next life. You know, when we're
all there, we can discuss at a later point. In Tom,
you mentioned LJ. Can BYU get to the title game,
get a college football playoff birth without LJ? Because there
was some slander on one on Brett always bringing a
hammer one of the videos he had put out that
BYU played better without LJ in Iowa State game.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're fine. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think if LJ is not able to go against
Texas Tech, that's a problem because Texas Tech has only
allowed sixty four points in conference this season. They're a
really good defense.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Aaron Roderick on The Coordinating Corner Show this week was
talking about how teams they play against. Generally, what they
think is, if we can slow down the running game,
will force the freshman quarterback to throw the ball war
and he's gonna make mistakes. I would think that that
narrative would be losing a lot of steam over the
first eight games of the season because Bear's proven that
he can get the job done. And so I'm wondering
in the next four games how defenses might adjust. Certainly
BYU's offenses is better when LJ is healthy and ready
to go. I think he will be ready to play
against Texas Tech, and so BYU will have their full
arsenal available that way. But I think defenses and defensive
coordinators are playing the percentages and saying, Okay, well there's
a freshman quarterback, let's make him make plays. And if
they start watching game film, they start seeing he is
making plays every single game. He's making plays and forcing
the throw may not be the best idea. So I'm
interested to see how Texas Tech and Cincinnati and TCU
and you see up defend by whether Lja Martin's there
or not.
Speaker 3: The good take love that point.
Speaker 2: What would win over the Red Raiders mean Joe Klatt
still has Texas Tech is to beat BYU to be
the representing the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: Others do too. What would a win next week in
Lubbick do for this BYU program?
Speaker 9: I think it would put them in a really great
position because if you figure BYU needs to go three
and one in their final four games to get to
the Big Twelve championship game. Definitely, the Texas Tech game
I think is the toughest one. Cincinnati's played really well,
TCU has a great passing game, and UCF has great athletes,
and BYU is going to be stressed to beat all
four of those teams. But a win in Lubbock would
I think put them over the top and really give
them the confidence they need to finish off that schedule.
But again, three and one, as I said, puts them
in the position they want to be in. So a
loss in Lubbock isn't as devastating as one might think.
Speaker 8: If by you can take care of business with the
other three.
Speaker 2: Games, Let's talk some hoop now, you know, we have
to talk hoop on this show. Starting Monday, November three,
two days away, Double D b YU Basketball officially tips
off of against Villanova. Your thoughts on the overall matchup,
A little preview, How do you see this game plan
out for BYU?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm still doing some digging on Villanova to kind
of see.
Speaker 9: They've got a new coach this year, they got a
couple of guys that are out injured, they were counting
on that are transfers, got a good freshman, So there's
talent certainly for Villanova in this game.
Speaker 8: BYU. So far this.
Speaker 9: Season has been interesting in terms of the two exhibition games.
Kevin Young said he didn't feel like the game at
Nebraska was real because there have been some injuries and
some things with this team. We're gonna see Dawson Baker
on Monday for the first time this season. He's been
nursing an injury that they want to just make sure
he's fully healthy. And so when Rob Wright goes out
of the game, the point guard. I think Dawson comes
in and gives be with you a completely different way look,
which is really important. I think I've been really impressed
with Kadeem Boop the way he's played coming off the bench,
giving BYU energy. And then my other question right now
is where Richie Saunders is at. He's not shot the
ball well in the first two preseason games. I don't
know how concerned I am about that. I'm just more
concerned about watching how he becomes part of the offense.
When AJ is getting so many ISOs, it's very much
an NBA looks so far that we've seen where they
give AJ to ball and let him go to work,
and that's fine, but then everyone else is kind of
standing around watching him go and Richie, as we know,
as a man in motion, he needs to be moving
coming off screens. And that's not to say that Kevin
Young won't run plays for Richie. Just those first two games,
he's gotten up some open looks from three and not
hit him. He's not really been going to the basket
that much, and so I'm just wondering where Richie fits
in with this. When AJ is the center of this offense,
We'll see more of that as the season progresses.
Speaker 8: And I think k Bakata has been terrific so far.
I liked what I.
Speaker 9: Saw from Canard Davis the last game. He made some
big plays down the stretch. So this is still working progress.
Speaker 8: And you know, there are a lot of new guys
and a lot of guys feeling new positions.
Speaker 9: But and when we were talking about this before we
started up, and maybe that's your next question, but what
happens when B WHYU loses a couple of games in
the preseason and then they set this schedule up to
really text themselves as well as keeping their net ranking high.
They're following the pattern that Arizona showed last year. The
B why you can huigre in the Big twelve standings
in Arizona had a better record, but Arizona played a
more difficult schedule and got a higher seed in the
NCAA tournament.
Speaker 8: That's what b what you're shooting for.
Speaker 9: So a loss two or three losses in the preseason,
that's not catastrophic. They want to win those games, but
they're more concerned with how that affects their ranking at
the end of the season. They won a two or
three seed, not a five or six seed, And so
as BYAU fans go through this preseason, they might see
by you drop out of the top ten if they
lose a couple of games to you know, if they
lose to Yukon or Wisconsin or Clemson or whoever. But
it's just part of the plan to put them in
a great position at the end of the season. We
know that the Couvers closed really well last year in
the first year under Kevin Young.
Speaker 8: They were on a real run when they got into
the NCAA tournament and continued that.
Speaker 9: So what they're hoping to do is repeat that, but
put themselves in a little higher seed and give themselves
a little bit of shot at moving on to the tournament.
That's that's kind of a long answer to your question,
but that's what's flowing through my mind is this season
gets ready to start.
Speaker 2: No, you said a lot of good things, and just
to tell the fans when we were preparing and prepping
you for this interview, that was one of the questions
I said, Hey, I'm going to ask about that if
b why you loses to Villanova or early in the season,
is it going to be a knee jerk reaction from
fans because remember last year when they lost to you know,
to a Providence on the road, people, Yep, he's not
Ayr's not a lottery pick.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 2: People just jumped immediately to conclusions. And I'm like, you
guys are wrong. I'm sitting next to scouts at games.
They're telling me that he's a lottery pick, Like, what
are you talking about? Like, And I'm not trying to
be rude. I don't care what the national these other
people guys and analyzing and fans are saying. If I'm
sitting next to an NBA scout who's telling me he's
a lottery pick, I'm probably gonna trust that guy more
often who's evaluaiting than other people, unless he's just telling
me false information, which I don't feel like they would
have done because they've been got the same information when
you sit next to him, and you gotta appreciate when
you sitting next to scouts, then that's the information.
Speaker 3: But that's why I bring that.
Speaker 2: Up because if they they could lose the Villanova, like
it's the first game of the year, figure things out.
It's not football, right where you can catch a team
early if you don't with the way they're not shooting
the three ball, well, if it doesn't fall, they could
lose this game. And I don't want fens like, look,
Kevin Young got this extension and just BYU fans gets
so knee jerk reaction to one bad you know piece
of evidence.
Speaker 3: And I said, look what did they do? Like you
alluded to last year?
Speaker 2: Would you rather then lose to Villanova early and then
lose the Iowa State at home February twenty six next year?
Or would you rather lose the first game and then
they'll roll off nine or ten in row beating Houston,
beating a Baylor, beating a Arizona beating a Texas Tech
of the crib beat in Iowa State. I think you'll
take the latter rather than the forward double D before
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as well. That game's interesting because in six of the
past seven seasons, those teams have played twice, once in
the regular season and once in the playoffs. They always
seem to be taking each other on arms. A little
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