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<v Speaker 1>Tis the season. We are deep in Christmas season, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take us back a few months. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to take us back to Halloween, which is where

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<v Speaker 1>we are right now, which is where in reality you

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually are right now. My brother told me

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest story the other day, and he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just telling it like it was nothing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wait, I'm sorry what happened? And he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, that is crazy. Apparently my brother was in

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<v Speaker 1>junior high the year that the film Colors came out,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the nineteen eighty eighty is Oh, you know Colors.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't let me read you the synopsis of the

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<v Speaker 1>film Colors.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm already frightened they've given the name.

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<v Speaker 1>In this gritty police drama from director Dennis Hopper, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>street wise cop played by Robert Duval and hothead Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>played by Sean Penn grapple with their new partnership on

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<v Speaker 1>the gang written streets of Los Angeles beautifully. So that

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<v Speaker 1>movie came out, and apparently the kids at my brother's school,

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<v Speaker 1>which eventually became my middle school, thought it would be

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing idea to tress up as either a crip

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<v Speaker 1>or a blood or Halloween. So my brother painted the

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<v Speaker 1>scene of my dad dropping him off at school in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and my dad suddenly seeing a school filled

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<v Speaker 1>with crips and bloods, and my dad's like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck is going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you going? What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And my brother had to explain this is because of

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<v Speaker 1>that movie. Yeah, And suddenly they these children and their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>To be clear, parents had to get involved. These are young.

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<v Speaker 1>These people aren't buying their own costumes. They're fourteen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a person went to the store and bought their

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<v Speaker 1>kid quote unquote the crip or the blood Halloween costume

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<v Speaker 1>and then pushed them out.

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<v Speaker 2>The world and go and everything seems fine.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not problematic at all. This will age be beautifully.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm Paul America, and this is that aged well

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday's pop culture. Today we were in the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>holiday season, holiday movies. Very I was waiting for that to.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep going, and yeah, I realized it was like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have it in me. Right, I'm done, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're good here everyone. We're recording this on November three.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're wondering where we are, if we see

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<v Speaker 1>the little.

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<v Speaker 2>Edgy today you'll know more than we know now in

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<v Speaker 2>any case, Erica. Before we get to the Holiday movie,

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<v Speaker 2>we do have a couple of five star Apple podcast reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>Shall I read the first one?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Okay, So this is from Heart to Paul. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that means they love me or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe their name is Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's both, Maybe it's both, Maybe it's both both.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's still hug from through the interwebsit or is

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<v Speaker 2>this you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you writing five star reviews for us? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I just keep changing my username. Heart Paul writes love

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast heard about your podcast from movies that made

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<v Speaker 2>us gay, and started with episodes covering movies I love,

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<v Speaker 2>such as Troop, Beverly Hills, Monster Squad, Beetlejuice, and Back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Future. I always appreciate hearing people say I

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<v Speaker 2>started the movies I love and they still like us afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always like it it's really well. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we were nice to all of these movies, except for

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps Monster Squad.

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<v Speaker 2>But even that we appreciated. Yeah, we appreciated it for

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<v Speaker 2>what was gil Man will live forever on in this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast's canon, Heart Paul goes on, if you haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>the peanut butter Solution from nineteen eighty five, you might

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<v Speaker 2>want to check it out. I grew up with it

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<v Speaker 2>and it lives in my brain. Thank you from Paul

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<v Speaker 2>or polyester in Provincetown. A little rainbow emoji.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it. Yeah, I have not seen the peanut butter solution,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would love to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm intrigued because look, peanut butter throughout the years has

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<v Speaker 2>solved a great many in my problems. Yeah, like just

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<v Speaker 2>a spoonful of.

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<v Speaker 1>Peanut butter helps the medicine go down.

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<v Speaker 2>It sure does, it sure does. I'm like a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to bury the pill of the peanut butter.

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<v Speaker 2>I just't lick it off the spoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall I read our second review?

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<v Speaker 2>Please do?

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<v Speaker 1>Our second review comes from Jena seventy four. They spell

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<v Speaker 1>it j e n n a y. I. I have

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<v Speaker 2>Has to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be a forest comfort, It has to

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<v Speaker 1>be Jeni bye, JENNI bhye Jeni. My wife had been

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<v Speaker 1>telling me for months to listen to this podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kept saying I will, I will. Then I started,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I can't stop. This is a fantastic show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny, smart, it has me rethinking so many of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite movies. I love this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jenni.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeni, you are not stupid as stupid does Jenni.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you could have died of AIDS in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty one, Jenniya.

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<v Speaker 1>This review is like a box of chocolates, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Hart Paul Jenny seventy four. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for these Apple podcast reviews. If you would like a

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<v Speaker 2>tote bag, let me know this is you. I will

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<v Speaker 2>send it off for you. Erica, what is the movie

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<v Speaker 2>that we are talking about on this the third Monday

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<v Speaker 2>of December.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's film is the nineteen eighty eight fen to See

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<v Speaker 1>comedy Scrooged.

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<v Speaker 2>M M all right, So this was requested by Nicole Sidney, Jackie, Megan, Rebecca, Laurie,

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<v Speaker 2>Karen Sojo, Another Megan, Sonny, Melissa, Amber, Miggie, Julia, Ariel, Ariella, Jessica, Justine, Marissa, Gina, Libby,

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<v Speaker 2>Kenzie Morgan, another Nicole, and still more of those people

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<v Speaker 2>whose names could not be determined from their social media profiles.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, yeah, this was the top.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a big film.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the top film. For this month, right like

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<v Speaker 1>when you put out the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first film that lost in a Patreon

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<v Speaker 2>poll to come back on its own. Oh shit, because

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<v Speaker 2>we pulled this against up at Christmas Carol last December

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<v Speaker 2>and it lost.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, yep. So Scrooge made it the very next year.

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<v Speaker 2>No promises on the other losers, we don't know, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to them. But Scrooged was was a clear winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's looking at you, Mildred Pierce next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck fingers crossed luck Queen. So Scrooge was written

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<v Speaker 2>by Mitch Glazer and Michael o'dona hugh. It was directed

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<v Speaker 1>Scrooged was nominated for one Academy Award Best Makeup, which

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<v Speaker 1>it lost to Beetlejuice. That is actually a horse race,

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<v Speaker 1>because the makeup in this movie is excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The The Ghost of Christmas, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's makeup for special effects, but when the Grost of

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Future opens up, his robe. Yeah, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the Lost Souls in there. I was like, that's really

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<v Speaker 2>That's well done. Yeah yeah, yeah, And like the makeup

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<v Speaker 2>on the Jacob Marley characters name is not Jacob Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, his name is lou Blue Hayward.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, very well done. But I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would give it to be do you just.

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<v Speaker 1>Had more makeup in it, like just more stuff, more

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<v Speaker 1>ghouls more.

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<v Speaker 2>So like sometimes the acting races go whoever does the

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this went to the most makeup fair, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a fair win, to be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Erica Scrooged was a difficult production, with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>conflict between Bill Murray and director Richard Donner over their

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<v Speaker 2>different visions for the film. Since the film's release, writer

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<v Speaker 2>Michael o'donna hugh has said he didn't think that Donner

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<v Speaker 2>understood comedy, that maybe only forty percent of the original

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<v Speaker 2>script is in the finished product, and what did remain

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<v Speaker 2>was quote unquote twisted. He said, we wrote a fucking masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 2>The finished film is a piece of unadulterated, unmitigated shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, bold statement, We wrote a fucking master I know. Yeah, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you copy this off of Charles Dickens.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, this is an adaptation.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby. To be clear, I like this movie, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't call something this derivative a masterpiece. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>how masterpieces work. Let's be some more Christmas Carol is

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 2>Yours is a is an imitation.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a master Yeah, yours is a satire of said

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<v Speaker 1>master piece. Do you understand? You know what, sir, call me,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna we're gonna discuss the nuances.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so a satire of the word masterpiece. I think

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<v Speaker 2>calling it a piece of unmitigated, undultraated shit is a

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<v Speaker 2>touch harsh, A touch harsh. It's a little bit much.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this movie more than you did. We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking off Mike about it earlier. I totally understand where

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray is coming from. It is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like the easiest joke wins in this movie. But you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta remember, I saw this like young, and it like

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<v Speaker 1>imprinted on me, and so I will I will love

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<v Speaker 1>this movie forever as a result.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so, When did you first see Scrooged?

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<v Speaker 1>This was like a big, like heavy rotation around the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays in our house. It was this, It was home alone.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Christmas story like these are. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>like the top three I think Christmas movies we watched.

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<v Speaker 1>I had quite a bit of this memorize when I

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't know the last time I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>before I saw it yesterday. To be honest, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I've seen it as an adult, Like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it in my twenties at some point, but

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it in a while. Okay, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like other films have taken its place.

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<v Speaker 3>Elf.

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<v Speaker 1>Elf has worked its way in Yeah, yeah, how about you.

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<v Speaker 2>I did see this as a kid. If you had

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<v Speaker 2>asked me this a week ago, I would have had

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<v Speaker 2>exactly one memory of this movie, and that is Carol

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<v Speaker 2>Caine hitting Bill Murray in the face of the toastra.

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<v Speaker 2>That is literally the only thing I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Like where your comedy heartless?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it really is. And having watched it again, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me put it this way. You know how in

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<v Speaker 2>Sex and the City, when Burger breaks up with Carrie

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<v Speaker 2>on the post it note yeah and he writes, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't don't hate me. I want you and all

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<v Speaker 2>the listeners never requested this to picture that be with

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<v Speaker 2>that post it note on my forehead. I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>did not hate the movie. I really didn't. It peaked

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly early, the first three minutes of this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>So funny, the hit joke ratio is so strong that

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<v Speaker 2>and they simply were not met. And like, and I

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<v Speaker 1>Like, that's not true. He does. He told me off

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<v Speaker 1>my earlier. He's like, I want to break hearts today.

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<v Speaker 2>then sure I'm fine hating it. But like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>of those things. You know, we hit those eighties comedies

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<v Speaker 1>We also have had this conversation in Caddyshack and again

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<v Speaker 1>I am all in on Bill Murray being an asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>depending on your relationship to Bill Murray totally, which is

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<v Speaker 1>basically every Bill Murray performance from the eighties, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he became a much better actor as he aged.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because there's there's something with the Bill Murray performance

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's because I know now, I know he

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's very good in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that when he starts shouting, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I totally disagree because that ending gets me. The ending

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe just lost me by that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the first ninety percent of the movie he's

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<v Speaker 1>over again, which is believe I believe why he's so

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Yeah, But the last ten minutes of this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>or the last ten percent of this movie, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I am all in on Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Murray even outside of that, And you're right, maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>is the director, but like, because the first ninety percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the movie is the same note over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the only character with an arc. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Carol. There is one character with an arc in

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<v Speaker 2>the Christmas Carol, in a Christmas Carol, and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have one. I think the movie had Like I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of believe the writer to the extent of like this

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<v Speaker 2>might this was almost a good movie. Like maybe Richard

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<v Speaker 2>Donners he was the wrong director for this, Like like

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't get the humor that they enjoy. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>like I really don't want to come off too harsh.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hate it. I wasn't angry at it while

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching it or anything like that. I was

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was. I'm not angry. I'm disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so much worse, Dad, I want.

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<v Speaker 2>So much more for this movie. From this movie, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>The critics disagree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>They do.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrooged has a seventy one percent critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes,

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy one percent audience score, and an eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>on cherry Picks. Saw do you Like Them? Apples?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't give this movie critically much lower than that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably give it like a sixty percent. Like

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<v Speaker 2>there's great performers in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Performance there's so many cameos from people who I no

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<v Speaker 2>longer know who they are. But I'm like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that person's famous or was famous forty years ago. I

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<v Speaker 2>would probably give it a sixty percent. My enjoyment of

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<v Speaker 2>it was probably a little lower than that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think that just again, it's just like it's Greek. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>some of this eighties comedy. It's just Greek. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty feels high. I'll tell you that, Ladies, eighty feels

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<v Speaker 2>quite high.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul, thanks. Women are wrong. Women are bad at judging films.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul said, So, women don't understand Scrooge.

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<v Speaker 1>Women don't understand comedy. Well, we all know women aren't funny. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so how dare they try to understand comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>If we can't take women aren't funny as just a

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<v Speaker 2>starting place for an open conversation and an open dialogue. Erica,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what we're doing here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think seventy percent is right. I think seventy I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, it's like, I'm not angry at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny. Now I didn't know this this backstory

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<v Speaker 1>of like the writer and the star and the director

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<v Speaker 1>all being at loggerheads about this. So I can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>if that's putting things in a different like I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>things differently now than I was five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sure to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Honest, because five minutes ago, it's like it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good movie. Yeah, it's a little one note, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also like it's a holiday movie for family, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to be it's not supposed to be this

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<v Speaker 1>like great masterpiece, although apparently it is. It was at

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<v Speaker 1>one point, it was at some point. But now that

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, that is sort of coloring my like

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<v Speaker 1>version like what I see when I see this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I do see like Bill Murray is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of playing the same thing kind of over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. But also the script supports it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, like the script. The script supports it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he's could have more pathos and like it's

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<v Speaker 1>and is choosing not to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, because there's unlike in like a Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>Carol where it's just like ghost ghost ghost in this

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<v Speaker 2>movie that's ghost and then return to the real world,

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<v Speaker 2>interact with people. Ghost returned to the real world, interact

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<v Speaker 2>with people. So I'm like those two sections where he's

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<v Speaker 2>we want to see something different. Yeah, and I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's I mean, I think Bill Marie

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<v Speaker 2>might actually be trying. I think he's trying, but like

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<v Speaker 2>the script isn't telling him to do that, like he

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<v Speaker 2>winds up being a dick again, and like backsliding's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but it should be like two steps forward, one step back,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to two steps forward two steps back, because

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<v Speaker 2>then we don't have progression. Like I know, I'm being nitpicky.

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<v Speaker 2>People are annoyed at me. I'm sorry, uh, Erica. The

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<v Speaker 2>tagline for Scrooged was the spirits will move you in

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<v Speaker 2>odd and hysterical ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a line from a Christmas Carol? I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>read a Christmas Carol since I was thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I never read a Christmas Carol. But that does not

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<v Speaker 2>sound like Dickens.

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<v Speaker 1>I read, so that when I was when I encountered

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<v Speaker 1>other Dickens later, I was like, Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>Your experience of Dickens is my experience with Scrooge peaked

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<v Speaker 2>very early.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And I was like, go back to a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Carol, bro These other books are long, there's slugs.

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<v Speaker 1>If it is a line from the original, then I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. If it is not, then I don't like it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go on a limb and say that

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<v Speaker 2>Dickens didn't use the phrase odd and hysterical. That just

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<v Speaker 2>does not sound like Charles Dickens to me at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could be wrong. Prove me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the best of times, It was the worst

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<v Speaker 1>of times. Should I read the synopsis?

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<v Speaker 2>Please do.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Cross is a mean TV executive with perfect qualities

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<v Speaker 1>of a modern day Scrooge. Before the night is over,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be visited by three ghosts from the past, present,

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<v Speaker 1>and future. This person is like, guys, you know this story?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Just right? It's an adaptation of a Christmas Carols, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>with Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Murray with like it's a comedy version of a Christmas Carol.

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<v Speaker 1>H You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. If you want the actual comedy version, watch them

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<v Speaker 2>up at Christmas Carol burn burn Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Burt actual synopsis for this film. A film so overstuffed

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<v Speaker 1>with cameos that you will not even notice Miles fucking

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<v Speaker 1>Davis is in this movie until the forty fifth time

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<v Speaker 1>you've watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait. I actually didn't notice Miles fucking Davis in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had to be I have to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's after I read the like Wikipedia for this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wait, where's Miles Davis in this movie?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I watched it last night. Yeah, he is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the street musicians when Bill and John Murray

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<v Speaker 1>are walking down the street. Yeah, and Bill Murray's yelling

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<v Speaker 1>at the street musicians for playing to the tourists. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Miles Davis, isn't that he's one of the musicians.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Murray just knew everybody, or Richard Donner knew everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're like, when it can be in this movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, I bet it's Bill Murray.

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<v Speaker 2>Scrooged and we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We open with a jaunty chorus singing la la la la, la,

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<v Speaker 1>la la la, as the camera zooms overhead and focuses

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<v Speaker 1>on a wintry Christmas village. We go inside one of

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<v Speaker 1>the sweet candy looking houses. And see Santa's workshop. Santa

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<v Speaker 1>and missus Claus are encouraging the elves to finish making

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<v Speaker 1>toys for all the good girls and boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have to interrupt you for one second because

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<v Speaker 2>you will appreciate this. Remember, all I knew was Carol

431
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<v Speaker 2>Kane hits Bill Murray in the Face of the Toaster,

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<v Speaker 2>and canonically, a Christmas Carol is a is a story

433
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<v Speaker 2>in which like some form of magic or like exists

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<v Speaker 2>right like other worlds whatever. So I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>really did not remember that Santa was a character in Scrooged,

436
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<v Speaker 2>and I this was about to happen work so well

437
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<v Speaker 2>on me because I bought it. I just went with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really fucking good. Suddenly, Santa

439
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<v Speaker 1>looks out the window and sees what appears to be

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<v Speaker 1>a missile heading straight for them. He screams, didn't come in,

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<v Speaker 1>and the workshop is besieged by fire and bullets from

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<v Speaker 1>an arm to militia. Dressed in black, Missus Claus goes

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<v Speaker 1>to the gun cupboard and grabs her AK forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>and start shooting back as Lee Majors played by Lee

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<v Speaker 1>Majors skis in through the front door. And exclaims that

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<v Speaker 1>he's here to save the day.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Has has a more American phrase ever been uttered on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast than gun cupboard?

449
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<v Speaker 1>You know, the the gun cupboard.

450
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<v Speaker 2>The thing we all have in our house, the cupboard

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<v Speaker 2>that you where you have your china in the cupboard,

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<v Speaker 2>we have your gun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two different cupboards.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Santa tells Lee Majors that he's been a very good boy,

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<v Speaker 1>and we hear a voiceover proclaim that Lee Majors is

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<v Speaker 1>starring in the Night the Reindeer Died. We cut to

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<v Speaker 1>another commercial for another show. This one's called Robert Gulay's

459
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<v Speaker 1>Old Fashioned Cajun Christmas and it is actually Robert Gulay

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<v Speaker 1>on like a raft in the swamp, singing jingle bells

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<v Speaker 1>while alligators circle him.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be guess, I wrote down, Is it

463
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<v Speaker 2>Bob Gulay's old fashions the better?

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<v Speaker 1>And then another commercial for an updated classic, a remake

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<v Speaker 1>of Leave It to Beaver call, or like a Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>special reunion special of Leave It to Beaver called Father

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<v Speaker 1>Loves Beaver.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so these three things happened in like ninety seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>said I am soaring above the clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like this is the best movie I've ever This.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the greatest thing I've ever seen. More Please, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I am sat.

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<v Speaker 1>All these programs and more are available on IBC's holiday schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Youle love it if mule, of course is spelled y

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<v Speaker 1>U l E.

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<v Speaker 2>I do also want to point out that in the

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<v Speaker 2>commercial for Father Loves Beaver, June Cleaver, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>the kid comes in and asks for data is June

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<v Speaker 2>Cleaver says, always probably out chasing Beaver. I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. All right, So the promo package ends and

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<v Speaker 2>we're in the dark, foreboding office of Frank Cross, played

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<v Speaker 2>by Bill Murray, the president of IBC, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>television channel that we're watching. Frank demands to see the

484
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<v Speaker 2>Scrooge promo. Okay, this will bother me the whole time.

485
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<v Speaker 2>A Christmas Carol has got to be in the public

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<v Speaker 2>domain at this point. Why do they keep calling it Scrooge?

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of love that actually, because it's like, these

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<v Speaker 1>are not these are not like intellectuals. Yeah, these are

489
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<v Speaker 1>not artists. Yeah, they don't give a fuck. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>a Christmas carol. They're calling it.

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<v Speaker 2>Scrooge like it's Charles Dickens Scrooge I'm like, no, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's part of the joke.

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<v Speaker 2>So we see a promo for a live Christmas Eve

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<v Speaker 2>production of Scrooge with all the bells and whistles, including

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<v Speaker 2>Mary lou Reddin as Tiny.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim excellent no notes.

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<v Speaker 2>The solid gold dancer excellent no notes, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>phrase I cannot hear without hearing Darthy's bornac go, I

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<v Speaker 2>look like the mother of a solid gold dancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time they cut to the solid gold dancers in

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<v Speaker 1>their string bikinis, I was so happy. It's such a dumb,

503
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<v Speaker 1>funny joke and it works on me every time.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's hosted by Sir John Houseman's and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually got fucking John Houseman to be in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank's nervous employees expectantly turned to him, hoping for the best,

507
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<v Speaker 2>and they do not get it. Frank caustically declares that

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<v Speaker 2>it sucks, it's toothless, and worst of all, it's boring.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst thing you can be is boring.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is Frank a co host on this podcast?

511
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<v Speaker 1>Yes he is?

512
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe really, he says, now I have to kill all

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<v Speaker 2>of you.

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<v Speaker 1>See that works on me, okay, because the way he goes, well,

515
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<v Speaker 1>now I have to kill all of you. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>to me is Bill Murray being the best version of

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the executives Mousey and Sweet Elliott Loudermilk played

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<v Speaker 2>by Bobcat Goldthwaite, which I fully expected to be a cameo,

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<v Speaker 2>but this character will track throughout the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I took him out of the most of the recap.

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<v Speaker 1>He only appears basically out and then at the end

523
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<v Speaker 1>because it does not work. And I love Bob Kat Gulfwaite,

524
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<v Speaker 1>but this doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>So Elliott informs Frank that they've already been running the

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<v Speaker 2>ad for a month and it's getting a strong response.

527
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<v Speaker 2>People want to see the show, and Frank screams at

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<v Speaker 2>Elliott that wanting to see it isn't enough. They have

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<v Speaker 2>to be terrified of missing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Frank has his bleakered assistant Grace played by the

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<v Speaker 1>excellent Alfre Woodard Unimpeachable, Unimpeachable, queue up the new promo

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<v Speaker 1>that he has cut for this program for this holiday classic.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a note for everyone, Paul is still fully on

534
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<v Speaker 2>board with this movie at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this promo is fucking funny.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole sequence in the office.

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<v Speaker 1>So the promo starts with acid rain and ends with

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear holocaust. It is bleak as hell, and it claims

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't miss IBC Scrooge because quote, your life

540
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<v Speaker 1>might just depend on it. Everyone in the room is stunned,

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<v Speaker 1>and not in a good way. Yeah, grown men are

542
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<v Speaker 1>physically like ill as they're leaving the room, like, I

543
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<v Speaker 1>can't believe I just saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, I, for me is a personal experience.

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<v Speaker 2>This like, like, I enjoyed, I got the joke. I

546
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<v Speaker 2>did get the joke. I thought it was funny. I've

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<v Speaker 2>watched them baseball over the last couple of weeks because

548
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<v Speaker 2>the met's actually went so, I saw a lot of

549
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<v Speaker 2>political ads and as a result, this joke did not

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<v Speaker 2>age well for me because it was like, oh, it's

551
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's obviously not I haven't seen any political adds.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something. It's not this, But it's

553
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<v Speaker 2>not not this, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we getting political ads here? What a waste

555
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<v Speaker 1>of money?

556
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<v Speaker 2>Well, a lot of house races?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, fair enough. I was like, I think everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows where New York City is going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is not the movie's fault. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those situations where we did not age well and the

561
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<v Speaker 2>movie it's a perfectly good joke to make.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh because okay, so I because I have a blackout,

563
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<v Speaker 1>I have not watched any political ads as everyone show,

564
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<v Speaker 1>and this joke lands extremely well on me. Perfect So

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott walks up to Frank and meekly suggests, hey, this

566
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 1>ad will not only frighten children, but might actually turn

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<v Speaker 1>some viewers away because it's so graphically violent, and Frank

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<v Speaker 1>pretends to be grateful for Elliott's on his feedback, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I did not see that point of view

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<v Speaker 1>until you pointed it out to me, and Elliott's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome, sir. I'm so glad I could help. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the moment Elliot walks away, Frank turns to Grace

573
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<v Speaker 1>and says fire him. Grace protests it's Christmas, and Frank goes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, call accounting and have them cancel his bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>Once Elliott is dispatched, Frank and Grace going to his

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<v Speaker 2>office and they go through his holiday gift list, in

577
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.559
<v Speaker 2>which most people, including Grace, Frank's brother, and Colonel Tom

578
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Parker that made me laugh, are getting towels, while a

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<v Speaker 2>very select few are getting top of the line VC.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So for those of you under forty who are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this, i'd have to explain what this what

582
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<v Speaker 1>this meant. In nineteen eighty seven, when this film was made,

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<v Speaker 1>a VCR was like a DVD player. Let me go back.

584
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>A DVD player is like a DVR. God, do you

585
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<v Speaker 1>even remember DVRs?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we have to go to Netflix.

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00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

588
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Prior to Netflix, I actually had that literal conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>my youngest nephew because he was watching some sitcom that's

590
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<v Speaker 2>actually airing on like linear television, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>have you watched the latest season of Abbot Elementary or

592
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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is? And I was like yeah, and I

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00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, it's airing now. He's like, well, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>all of it. And I'm like you can't have it

595
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<v Speaker 2>hasn't aired. He's like, no, I saw of it on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, you saw last season. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>new season that's airing on TV. He didn't understand. He

598
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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, I'm up to date. I'm like, you.

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00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Aren't, because TV still exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Y TV does exist.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. Yeah, that's funny that kids genuinely are like

602
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<v Speaker 1>but what's TV. Yeah, so I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 1>to explain a VCR to people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd also like to point out the in Frank's office,

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<v Speaker 2>we will have a tab sighting. I like to I

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<v Speaker 2>like to spot tab so much tab vodka.

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<v Speaker 1>Tabs vodka as a drink.

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<v Speaker 2>That tastes like heartburn to me. Okay, So, company CEO

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00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Preston Rhinelander played by Robert Mitcham, enters and tells Frank

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<v Speaker 2>that they should start creating programming for cats and dogs

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<v Speaker 2>because he read somewhere that cats are starting to pay

612
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<v Speaker 2>attention to what they see on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I worked in television for a while. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not this is not an insane conversation to have. There

615
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<v Speaker 1>are TV executives who are having this thought. We're having

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<v Speaker 1>this thought ten years ago already.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you know what, there there are channels for

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00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 2>them now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, like like this this came true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Can I tell you I was once watching like

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<v Speaker 1>like Animal Planet in my house and my cat wandered

621
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<v Speaker 1>in just as a lion was walking across the screen,

622
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<v Speaker 1>and my cat wigged out that it's one of the

623
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<v Speaker 1>funniest things I've ever seen in my life. My cat

624
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<v Speaker 1>he jumped so high he hit the ceiling and then

625
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.799
<v Speaker 1>it was like he was a ghost. He was in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen before I even knew what it happened.

627
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 2>The fuck is that? Okay? So Frank Usher's Presston away

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<v Speaker 2>with a promise of including some mice and Scrooge to

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<v Speaker 2>entertain the cats. And then just as Preston leaves, Bryce

630
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<v Speaker 2>coming an la slimeball who calls the elevator operator Pops

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<v Speaker 2>played by John Glover. I love John Glover this Like.

632
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get this performance when I was a kid,

633
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't understand what he was parodying. This is

634
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe my favorite performance in the movie. And I didn't

635
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>know that until yesterday. Yeah, I was like, he is

636
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 1>so so funny.

637
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I saw John Glover and I was like, oh, John Glover,

638
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 2>I love him, and I clicked on his Wikipedia link.

639
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 2>I want to share a little tidbit of trivia from

640
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<v Speaker 2>his Wikipedia.

641
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>For Yah, I love John Glover.

642
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Please, no, no, this is good. This is a celebration

643
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:53.799
<v Speaker 2>of John Glover.

644
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh thank god.

645
00:30:54.440 --> 00:31:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Kay. He slept with Freddie Mercury. Oh yes, he is

646
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 2>the champion, my friends. He will rock you. He felt

647
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Bohemian Rhapsody.

648
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.839
<v Speaker 1>He slept with Freddie Mercury. Good for you, Jungle John

649
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Glover is still with us, right, yeah, okay, good, good

650
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 1>for you John Glover.

651
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right. So Bryce enters and casually mentions to

652
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Frank that he's here to meet with Preston and that

653
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>he went to college with Preston's son.

654
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Everything about Bryce screams entitled like yuppie scumbag asshole. It

655
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 1>is such a good performance.

656
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 2>It is. I'm confused at the dramaturgical decision to write

657
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>an adaptation of a Christmas Carol and then put a

658
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>character in the story that you're supposed to dislike more

659
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>than you dislike the Ebenezer Scrooge analogue.

660
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 1>I think that's in a Christmas Carol. Though there are

661
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>awful awful people in a Christmas Carol.

662
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, My Christmas Carol is the Muppet.

663
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 1>One, and Mike Christmas Carol is the immortal Charles Dickens classic.

664
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Scrooge, the masterpiece.

665
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I I don't care. I just don't care because his

666
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>performance is so goddamn funny. Yeah, and and I don't

667
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>mind him having another antagonist to work off of.

668
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough, So Frank panics and orders Grace to

669
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>work late with him that night so they can get

670
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.240
<v Speaker 2>ahead of Bryce trying to take Frank's job, and Grace

671
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>protests that she has to take her son to the doctor,

672
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 2>and Frank's screams, I care like a petulant child.

673
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel for Grace, Grace girl, and Bezel and Bezel money.

674
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Now what are you doing? Why are you doing this?

675
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Frank goes back into his office to find his younger brother, James,

676
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>played by actual younger brother John Murray. All four of

677
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 1>the Murray brothers are in this film, so James is

678
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 1>waiting for Frank in his office and James invites Frank

679
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>over for Christmas dinner with the rest of the family,

680
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and before he can even finish the offer, Frank's like no,

681
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 1>turns him down cold. He shakes his brother's hand and

682
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>he's sincerely says, I hope you and your family have

683
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>a nice New Year's There's genuine affection between the brothers,

684
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 1>to be clear. He says, I love you, James, I

685
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>really do, but I could not stomach Christmas at your house.

686
00:32:58.680 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

687
00:32:59.319 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

688
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>James looks disappointed, but not at all surprised. He's like, okay, well,

689
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the door is always open to you should you want to.

690
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think they chose to have this relationship suite,

691
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 2>because like in the in The Muppet One, like.

692
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>It is, it is only frame of reference.

693
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I haven't read it. I'll be honest, I've

694
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>not read.

695
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>A Nephew was really nice in the book.

696
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Nephew's really nice, but Scrooge is a dick. Yeah, I

697
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>think I wonder. I'm working this out in my head

698
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 2>as I say it, so this may not be accurate.

699
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.559
<v Speaker 2>But like, I wonder if part of the reason that

700
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 2>he's playing a similar note the whole time is because

701
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>they're starting him in this already somewhat mitigated place of

702
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>like he's gonna be nice to his brother and we're

703
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna have La Slimeball. Come on, it's actually even worse

704
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>than him. It's taking some of the teeth out of

705
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>how horrible he is in early on.

706
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because he's he's already screamed at like

707
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>four people and be like a rage monster at the office,

708
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know that he's not not terrible. We're

709
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna find out later that they come from a really shitty,

710
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 1>broken household. I think the implication is that these two

711
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.039
<v Speaker 1>sort of like Frank kind of raised James, like he

712
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 1>did his best to like protect James totally and so

713
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think that so. I think bringing that, like that,

714
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>that backstory into it makes this make a lot more sense.

715
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe that was included in the masterpiece version of it.

716
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like that he and

717
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:17.639
<v Speaker 1>his brother are like close.

718
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't dislike it, to be clear, I just dramaturgically

719
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>like questioning.

720
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that makes sense. I again haven't read the book

721
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:27.760
<v Speaker 1>in a minute, but I think this is closer to

722
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the relationship and he has with his nephew in the book.

723
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, So we cut to Frank stealing an old

724
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 2>woman's cab and flipping her off excellently.

725
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 1>She's like, sir, please don't take my cab, and he

726
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 1>just gives her the middle finger through the window and

727
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:42.039
<v Speaker 1>she goes, you set up a bit.

728
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 2>I hope you're rotten now. He takes the cab to

729
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.360
<v Speaker 2>a charity dinner where he's receiving the Humanitarian of the

730
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Year award, and then he goes back to the office

731
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and he leaves the award in the cab. Once he's

732
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>back to the office, he fixes himself another vodka tab.

733
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Is there something that would be grosser than a vodka tab?

734
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I've never had a tab? What does tab taste like?

735
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Worst diet coke?

736
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

737
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

738
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Or does it have like a Doctor peppery kind of

739
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is? Oh?

740
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 2>There's not, there's no there's no enigma to it.

741
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, because doctor I've had doctor Pepper once and it

742
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.679
<v Speaker 1>rewired my brain. I was like, I don't wait, what

743
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>what's happening? What is this taste?

744
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I actually like doctor Pepper tab from my memory. They

745
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 2>discontinued it. It just can't get in twenty.

746
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Twenty, bud if you can find it twenty twenty. Yeah,

747
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>it lasted that long.

748
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 2>It did, holy shit, because I looked it up because

749
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 2>I was like, can I get a tab to try to?

750
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I have not seen a tab in the wild since

751
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking Reagan was president.

752
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 2>You want to what if we go to like a

753
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>bodega in Deep Queens.

754
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>There's still a tab in the back.

755
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 2>There's a tab something? Yeah, yeah, there is all right.

756
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 2>So he's he's drinking his vodka tab and he hears

757
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 2>a knock at his office door and that quickly becomes

758
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>a pounding and then an explosion as the door flies

759
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 2>open and half the wall breaks down with it. He

760
00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 2>reaches into his desk to grab a gun that he

761
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>keeps in his desk at work and his gun drawer.

762
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 2>His gun draw doesn't have a gun covered.

763
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>At least he has a gun drawer.

764
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.840
<v Speaker 2>He's a gun drawer, and he hides behind his desk

765
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and the dust settles, and the decaying, walking talking corpse

766
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 2>of Lou Hayward played by John Forsyth cheerfully enters the

767
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 2>office and starts to fix himself a drink. Why in

768
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 2>these stories? Why does Ebenezer Scrooge or Frank Cross in

769
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 2>this case? Why did they qualify for like the Final Warning?

770
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Like?

771
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Did did Lou Some or Jacob Marley make some deal

772
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 2>with some underworld figure to be like, look, I I

773
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 2>know I will be burning forever, but can I have

774
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.800
<v Speaker 2>one night to try to send a couple of ghosts

775
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 2>to my friend Emmy's or to try to save him

776
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>from eternal torment?

777
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, actually, Like I think because deep

778
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:51.519
<v Speaker 1>down the character is just so deeply lonely, and that's

779
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 1>where the anger and the like the greed comes from,

780
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and that they're fundamentally good people, I guess, but you're right,

781
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 1>that is a weir like of why this asshole, all

782
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the assholes. There's so many assholes.

783
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Maybe just because he's rich, and like the powers that

784
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 2>be are like, all right, well, if we're gonna put

785
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.280
<v Speaker 2>out this effort, we need to know he's going to

786
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 2>be actually able to make change.

787
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, then send the ghost to Preston. Yeah, send

788
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 1>the ghost to the man who writes Frank's checks, not

789
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 1>to Frank.

790
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting that he's not the top of the totem

791
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 2>pole in this telling of it. Yeah, Like in the

792
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>original he owns his own business and he's, you know,

793
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 2>just a money lender, right, So like it's interesting that

794
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 2>he has that he's beholden to someone else.

795
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So while he's worried about his job, Yeah, he

796
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 1>genuinely has to worry that, like, while he's having these misadventures,

797
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 1>his job is being taken by Bryce.

798
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's obviously incredibly rich, but he's it's not fuck

799
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>you money like he's working.

800
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we never see his home. I just realize he

801
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>only ever goes to the office.

802
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's where he lives.

803
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>That is where he lives.

804
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 2>He does have a gun there.

805
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 1>I always keep my gun in my toothbrush wherever.

806
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 2>He's saying, it's the American way, all right. So the

807
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 2>mummified corpse of Lou, he's not really mumified, he's kind

808
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 2>of decaying.

809
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

810
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:04.360
<v Speaker 2>But by the way, when this guy entered, I was like,

811
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I bet this is why young Paul doesn't remember a

812
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 2>single thing about this because the makeup is quite good,

813
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:12.599
<v Speaker 2>and there's a scene so he appears to have died

814
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>in the golf course. He's dressed for golf, he's dragging

815
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.760
<v Speaker 2>a bag of clubs with him, and Frank shoots him

816
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 2>a couple of times. Obviously doesn't hurt him, but he

817
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 2>shoots a hole in the back of his head, out

818
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 2>of which a golf ball falls, and then a mouse

819
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:26.719
<v Speaker 2>crawls out of the hole in his head and then

820
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 2>back into it. Yeah, And I was like, this is

821
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 2>why I don't remember this movie. There's some legitimately not

822
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>scary but gross, like spooky. I think is fair to say, yeah,

823
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff that happens in this movie. And I'm sure Young

824
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Paul was like, shut it down, shut it down.

825
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

826
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>So Frank is like freaking out. He shot Lou. Lou

827
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>turns around, turns to Frank and says cheers before and

828
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.599
<v Speaker 1>downs his drink, which starts to seep out of the

829
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 1>now bullet hole ridden corpse because he's now got holes

830
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:03.519
<v Speaker 1>in himself. Frank starts to actually recognize him, and he

831
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>turns to him and he's like, oh my god, you're Lou,

832
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 1>and like this is when we find out that Lou

833
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.800
<v Speaker 1>is his former boss, his best friend, and currently been

834
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:15.199
<v Speaker 1>dead for seven years. Frank immediately assumes he's having a

835
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>hallucination brought on by vodka poisoned from Chernobyl.

836
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>More likely brought on by the tab.

837
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 1>To be fair, actually made me laugh this time. That's

838
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>another joke that when I was a kid, I would

839
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 1>not have understood. And now I was like, Okay, that's funny.

840
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Vodka will kill bacteria, but tab won't.

841
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not Chernobyl, but vodka. We don't know what those

842
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Russians are putting in our drinks. Lou warns Frank not

843
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>to waste his life like he did. My one kind

844
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 1>of thing about this is because we do see, like

845
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:41.559
<v Speaker 1>even in the original Christmas Carol, we do see like

846
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Jacob Marley and then Lou Hayward in like their heyday,

847
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and they seem like pretty okay guys. Yeah, like a

848
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 1>little scuzzy, definitely cheats on his wife, but like he's

849
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>fun and he seems really nice. So he tells Frank,

850
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not too late. You have to get involved, help

851
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 1>your fellow man before it too late. Do not waste

852
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>your life. He says, you will be visited by three ghosts.

853
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And at this point Frank starts to really believe this

854
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:11.599
<v Speaker 1>is all just a hallucination. So he reverts back to

855
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:15.320
<v Speaker 1>his sarcastic asshole self and he's like, twelve o'clock's not

856
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.519
<v Speaker 1>really good for me tomorrow. Can they come at three instead?

857
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Or how about after the holidays. I'm really swamped right now.

858
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And in order to drive the point home of what

859
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>this is fucking real, Lou picks Frank up by the

860
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 1>neck and dangles him out of an unopened window. So

861
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 1>like Frank's office is like Florida ceiling windows. It's like

862
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>big Manhattan skyscraper, and he just the special effects are

863
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 1>a little cheesy in eighties, but it's still pretty cool.

864
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.199
<v Speaker 1>He just like puts him outside the window, like through

865
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the window and holds him and starts laughing at him

866
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>as Frank dangles over the street and Frank starts to

867
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>grab it Lou's arm to be like no, no, no, please,

868
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>please please, I don't want to die. I don't want

869
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.639
<v Speaker 1>to die. And because Lou is decaying, the arm breaks off. Yeah,

870
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>while Frank is grabbing it, and Frank's starts to drop

871
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>fifty floors down to certain death. He is begging for

872
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>his life the entire way as he screams in terror.

873
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Of course, he doesn't die short movie if he did.

874
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.760
<v Speaker 2>He wakes up in his office, which shows no evidence

875
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>of the explosion or gunfire, and he sees the phone

876
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>on his desk dialing a number all by itself. It

877
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>calls Frank's old flame, Claire Phillips and gets her answering machine.

878
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 2>And as soon as Frank here's the answering machine, he

879
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.119
<v Speaker 2>picks up and he starts to leave an urgent message.

880
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>He asks her to call him back, even though they

881
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>haven't spoken in fifteen years.

882
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:34.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

883
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 2>So we cut to Grace aka bob Cratchit Alfre.

884
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Woodard totally bob Cratchit.

885
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep. She's in her humble apartment which she shares with

886
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:46.039
<v Speaker 2>her large but loving family. This includes her sweet little son, Calvin.

887
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 2>Calvin's the only kid that we have to be aware of.

888
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 1>He's the only one who's named the movie Jesus. Yeah,

889
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>we don't know any of the other kid's names.

890
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Calvin doesn't speak. Grace's mother and oldest daughter asked her

891
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 2>if she got her bonus for Christmas, and she shows

892
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 2>them the towel Frank Gaffer, which, by the way, isn't

893
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.760
<v Speaker 2>even like a full bath towel. This is like a

894
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>hand towel.

895
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.519
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, it was a big ugly logo company logo

896
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>on it.

897
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Lost opportunity here, Sorry, And I'm not trying to pick

898
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 2>on the movie. But again I don't understand, like it'll

899
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.840
<v Speaker 2>matter more later when he visits her with the ghost

900
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>of Christmas present, but no one bad mouths Frank. All

901
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.760
<v Speaker 2>the people he visit aren't like fuck Frank. He sucks, oh,

902
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 2>which is which is what affects him.

903
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, well, although doesn't this work a little better

904
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.639
<v Speaker 1>then actually that It's not like people are like I

905
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>hate that guy. It's more like, oh shit, I see

906
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>my what my actions have wrought without it being like

907
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want people not to like me, kin.

908
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it needs both. I'm okay with your right

909
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 2>effective I don't. Maybe I'm too maybe I'm too expecting

910
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:50.719
<v Speaker 2>it to follow the beats of Christmas Carol closely.

911
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.119
<v Speaker 1>You mean it's Christmas Carol version.

912
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Correct.

913
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 1>You don't know what you don't understand. Guys, there's so

914
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>few books that I have read that Paul hasn't that

915
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna lord this over him. You didn't read a

916
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Carol, but can you even read?

917
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Don't think. I don't think that this character would get that.

918
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't buy this character having the self awareness of

919
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 2>looking at someone and feeling for them. He doesn't feel

920
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 2>for other people. Why does he suddenly start feeling for people?

921
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.320
<v Speaker 2>For me to buy it, I need like a kickstarter,

922
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 2>and then this can be also part of it, because

923
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 2>like this is what I have wrought, It's always part

924
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>of it. But he kind of needs the other part too,

925
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 2>I think. So.

926
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 1>The next day at the office, Frank finds out that

927
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the dark Scrooge ad that he greenlit frightened an eighty

928
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:42.199
<v Speaker 1>year old woman to death. The head of marketing puts

929
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 1>like a newspaper in front of his face. It says

930
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>something like eighty year old woman scared to death. She

931
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:49.320
<v Speaker 1>is played by the way by Mary Ellen trainor Yeah,

932
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 1>the excellent actress from the eighties.

933
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:53.639
<v Speaker 2>I kept expecting her to be in more. I guess

934
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe she was almost a cameoll.

935
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a smaller role. I wonder if there was

936
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.880
<v Speaker 1>a version where they're having an affair, because there's clearly

937
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:03.320
<v Speaker 1>something there that, like, I think got cut out of

938
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the movie because in the Masterpiece, she's the only executive

939
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 1>that seems to like, really actually like him agreed. So

940
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 1>she shows his paper and Frank puts his face in

941
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.599
<v Speaker 1>his hands for a few seconds, and you think he's

942
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:20.119
<v Speaker 1>really upset, and then he goes, yeah, this is amazing.

943
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:24.360
<v Speaker 1>You can't buy this kind of publicity. He's so excited

944
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 1>that he has murdered an old woman. He then goes

945
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to the screwge set and starts to argue with the

946
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>censor over the risk nipple bearing costume of the solid

947
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 1>gold dancers. This is such a small thing in the movie,

948
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Like there's a censor it goes She's in through the

949
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:42.360
<v Speaker 1>rest of the film. I cut her out of the

950
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>recap from here on out, but like, and she keeps

951
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:46.519
<v Speaker 1>getting more and more injured as the film goes on.

952
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a silly like throw away choke this I have

953
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:52.679
<v Speaker 1>to bring up because this scene really made me laugh.

954
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>And they show the dancer and you really can't see

955
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>her nipples the area the top, and he's arguing with

956
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:05.679
<v Speaker 1>the censor. He's like, She's like, this is a family show,

957
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, what you can You know people want

958
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 1>to see her nipples. Charles Dickens would want to see

959
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 1>her nipples. To be fair, the dancer looks proud, So

960
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the movie does not make me feel in any way

961
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.519
<v Speaker 1>like she's being used or objectified or objectified in a

962
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>way that she does that she objects too. To be clear,

963
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>these two teamsters come in and they're just staring right

964
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.800
<v Speaker 1>at her boots. The sensor holds firm and then the

965
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:34.079
<v Speaker 1>teamsters turn away and one of them accidentally clocks her

966
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:36.639
<v Speaker 1>in the head with a prop lamp that they're carrying.

967
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.400
<v Speaker 1>She falls to the ground. Frank just looks at her

968
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:43.639
<v Speaker 1>dispassionately because he is associopathy, and calmly tells the teamsters

969
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.039
<v Speaker 1>to call a nurse, and then he hears someone call

970
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>out Lumpy from across the room and his face lights up.

971
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Frank turns around and he comes face to face with Claire,

972
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 2>played by the genuinely luminous Karen Allen, the Woman Gloves.

973
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.239
<v Speaker 1>She is so good in this movie. I don't think

974
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I noticed it until I was until this time, because

975
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, I didn't really pay attention.

976
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.800
<v Speaker 1>But like, she fucking sells the shit out of this character,

977
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:11.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's a hard character to sell.

978
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I agree, she's very good in it. I think the

979
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 2>script script really does her dirty, but she's very good

980
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:16.679
<v Speaker 2>in it.

981
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean that the source material, though, Bell is a

982
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.840
<v Speaker 1>fucking nothing character, so it's really it's hard. It's hard

983
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 1>to make this into something, but.

984
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I think they did, okay.

985
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:27.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean it does her dirty in that, Like does

986
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>she not have anyone else in her life?

987
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.000
<v Speaker 2>For the last year, you look like, Karen Allen, You've

988
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.119
<v Speaker 2>been pining after this guy for fifteen years. This guy

989
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 2>that That is my big objection to it. That, like

990
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you expect me to believe that this guy was ever

991
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:45.559
<v Speaker 2>charming enough to make Karen fucking Allen pine after him

992
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.880
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years. I had difficulty. Claire got Frank's frantic voicemail

993
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.599
<v Speaker 2>message answering machine message not a voicemail back then, it

994
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 2>was an answering right. She came to check up on him.

995
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Frank tries to play off the message is nothing, but

996
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Claire says she knows him, and she knows me really frightened,

997
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:02.679
<v Speaker 2>and you were frightened on that voicemail. What are you

998
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about? And despite their massive personality differences and the

999
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 2>situation that brought Claire here, these two can't stop smiling

1000
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 2>at each other like two love struck teenagers. She says,

1001
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen your hair this short, to which Paul

1002
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.320
<v Speaker 2>says short. Oh, and then you see it later and

1003
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, okay, never mind, got it, because got it.

1004
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>This is pushing mullet. But we will have a flashback

1005
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 2>which we get a full mullet.

1006
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:26.719
<v Speaker 1>This is a business mullet, this business.

1007
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:28.480
<v Speaker 2>We'll get a fullet. Claire keeps trying to have a

1008
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 2>real conversation with Frank, but he's interrupted every few seconds

1009
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:34.079
<v Speaker 2>by someone on set needing something from him. So there's

1010
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 2>an animal handler that comes by and tells Frank he

1011
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:38.679
<v Speaker 2>wasn't able to glue the tiny antlers on the head

1012
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 2>of the mouse, and Frank suggest he's staple the antlers

1013
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 2>to the mouse's head. This horrifies both the animal handler

1014
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and Claire, who threatens to call the Humane Society on, Frank,

1015
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Why does the.

1016
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Mouse need to have antlers in the first place?

1017
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:56.599
<v Speaker 2>That is an excellent question.

1018
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Why And it does not get resolved that you do

1019
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:03.039
<v Speaker 1>see antler laden mice later in the film, in the

1020
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 1>version of Scrooge that they are producing. Okay, does not

1021
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.159
<v Speaker 1>need they do not need to have antlers.

1022
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's answer this question. So if they have antlers

1023
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 2>on their head, that means the mice must be on

1024
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 2>some playing reindeer.

1025
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're reindeer mice.

1026
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>They're reindeer mice, some kind of mutant hybrid.

1027
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 1>But there's no Santa Claus in Scrooge. Screech does not

1028
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 1>have Santa Claus in it as as a character.

1029
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 2>But perhaps perhaps they are. They're part of a diorama. Perhaps, Yeah, you.

1030
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Know what, Paul, this is their art. I shouldn't should

1031
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>just let it wash over me. I shouldn't try to

1032
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>analyze everything to death. What am I?

1033
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Who are you me?

1034
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.519
<v Speaker 1>But like, honestly, I was staring at it. I was like,

1035
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 1>but wait, why does the why does the mouse meat?

1036
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:42.360
<v Speaker 2>That did not occur to me? You're so right?

1037
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Is there a tiny Santa Claus in this version of Scrooge?

1038
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:48.159
<v Speaker 2>A tiny Santa Claus is played by.

1039
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't know a pigeon, and then I google

1040
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>dormouse because they always refer to it as a dormouse,

1041
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, do dormice have antlers? And I

1042
00:48:54.639 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 1>could hear Google laughing at me. So Frank smiles oring

1043
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Leah Claire and asks, hey, are you still trying to

1044
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>save the world? And she smiles back at him and

1045
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>say it and says, are you still trying to run it?

1046
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.400
<v Speaker 1>It seems like there is now about to have a

1047
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 1>real conversation when Frank spies a small child hiding on

1048
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:17.519
<v Speaker 1>set and gets furious. He grabs the kid while screaming

1049
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 1>that he's gonna call the cops and have this kid

1050
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 1>ejected from set. Who are you? Are you some kind

1051
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.679
<v Speaker 1>of corporate spy? Turns out the child is Calvin Grace's

1052
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>mute son, and Grace scoops him up before Frank can

1053
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.519
<v Speaker 1>terrify him any further, and she's like, it's my son.

1054
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>He goes good, you beat him. Then Claire asks Frank

1055
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.800
<v Speaker 1>why are you so angry? What is happening? Why are

1056
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 1>you so angry? And he deflects the question again. She

1057
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.320
<v Speaker 1>hands him her business card and we find out. She

1058
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>manages a shelter in Midtown called Operation Rescue. She is

1059
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.039
<v Speaker 1>the do gooderiest of all the do gooders that ever

1060
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>do gooded, and she tells him to call her if

1061
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>he needs help.

1062
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Frank goes to lunch with Preston. He seems nervous around Preston.

1063
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Preston's his boss, remember Preston ryin lander, uh, and he

1064
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>mimics all of his mannerisms, including cleaning his silverware, which

1065
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 2>is it's like, it's like proto pretty woman, right. He

1066
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know, he doesn't know how to act in this restaurant,

1067
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:08.400
<v Speaker 2>which is an odd choice.

1068
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, No, I think he does know how to act

1069
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 1>in a restaurant. He's just in Preston makes him nervous.

1070
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh you think it's not okay? Okay, Yeah, this is not.

1071
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:18.679
<v Speaker 1>A usual situation where Preston is like, why don't we

1072
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and have lunch on Christmas Eve? And so

1073
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Frank's like, what the fuck is about to happen?

1074
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:26.599
<v Speaker 2>He updates Preston on the live Scrooge telecast. They're planning

1075
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:28.599
<v Speaker 2>to cut from the telecast in New York City to

1076
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.719
<v Speaker 2>someone painting the Berlin Wall and the Pope blessing the

1077
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 2>entire Zulu nation in history's largest mass baptism. What is

1078
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 2>this show? I don't care for that at.

1079
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>All, but is happening by the way earlier on, like

1080
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>when we first saw the first preview for for Scrooge,

1081
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it says it starts at ten pm, first of all,

1082
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Eastern Time, which what's what we're about to say makes

1083
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>no sense because that Berlin Wall thing is happening. It's

1084
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:56.039
<v Speaker 1>at five in the morning. There are time and we'll

1085
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll be simulcast from New York City, Bethlehem, hell Sinky.

1086
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.519
<v Speaker 1>What are they doing in Helsinki, West Berlin, which now

1087
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.679
<v Speaker 1>we find out is the Berlin Wall thing and the

1088
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Great Barrier.

1089
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Read Preston suggests that Frank is spreading himself a little

1090
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 2>thin and informs Frank that he's hired Bryce Cummings to

1091
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 2>work under him, and Frank is not thrilled. Doesn't help

1092
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that Bryce bounds into the restaurant and barks Pellegrino rocks

1093
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 2>twist to the waiter before sitting at their table and

1094
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 2>telling Frank he should definitely, absolutely totally completely not be

1095
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 2>threatened by him at all. I'm just here to learn,

1096
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to work under you here to how Preston

1097
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want you to work too hard.

1098
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:38.360
<v Speaker 1>We're here to work at the altar of worship with

1099
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:42.519
<v Speaker 1>the altar of Frank. Yeah, oh my god. Frank heres

1100
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:46.199
<v Speaker 1>a clock strike twelve pm and suddenly remembers lose warning

1101
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that the first ghost would appear to him at noon today. Bryce, unfortunately,

1102
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.000
<v Speaker 1>at this exact moment, pulls out an old timey pocket

1103
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 1>watch to check the time, and Frank sees the old

1104
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:02.519
<v Speaker 1>timey watch and assumes that Bryce is the ghost, and

1105
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:09.079
<v Speaker 1>he goes ah ha at a very bewildered Bryce and Preston,

1106
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>who are like, are you okay, and then immediately realizes

1107
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>his mistake when nothing happens. The waiter puts Frank's drink down,

1108
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.079
<v Speaker 1>and Frank sees an eyeball in the glass instead of

1109
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 1>ice cubes and starts to scream until the waiter takes

1110
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:27.599
<v Speaker 1>it away. The waiter asks Frank what he would like

1111
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:31.159
<v Speaker 1>to order, and Frank is like sweating now, by the way,

1112
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>he asked everyone what they would like to order, and

1113
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Bryce goes, I'll have the California Health plate. No dairy

1114
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in that, right, yeah, everything about Bryce, So Frank is

1115
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>fully sweating At this point, he looks across the room

1116
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and he sees another waiter lighting up a baked Alaska.

1117
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 1>What he sees is the waiter lighting himself on fire. Yeah,

1118
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:53.920
<v Speaker 1>no one else sees what Frank is seeing. Everyone thinks

1119
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.159
<v Speaker 1>he's having a meltdown at the table, which of course

1120
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.639
<v Speaker 1>he is. And Frank is like, it's like the pointing

1121
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>at the man and pointing at the man, and the

1122
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:02.920
<v Speaker 1>waiter's like, no, no, sir, that's a baked Alaska. It's

1123
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 1>a dessert. You wouldn't want that for. This waiter is

1124
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:07.679
<v Speaker 1>so goddamn good at his job.

1125
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 2>That guy, the waiter's also a character actor. I don't

1126
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>know his name.

1127
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him a million things, and he's doing his

1128
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:18.519
<v Speaker 1>level best to like keep Frank calm. Frank excuses himself

1129
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:21.280
<v Speaker 1>from the table. He runs across the restaurant, grabs an

1130
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:24.239
<v Speaker 1>ice bucket from someone else's table, and throws it on

1131
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the man that he thinks is on fire. At this point,

1132
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.199
<v Speaker 1>it is a full special effect. The man is like

1133
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:32.320
<v Speaker 1>an inferno head to toe flames. He throws the ice

1134
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>bucket on the man, which really would not have been

1135
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:36.639
<v Speaker 1>enough to put the put that fire out, And at

1136
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.519
<v Speaker 1>that moment he snaps out of his delusion and he

1137
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.960
<v Speaker 1>sees what everyone else sees, which is just a waiter

1138
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:46.079
<v Speaker 1>covered in water for no reason. The guy's like trying

1139
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to count his tips.

1140
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:48.320
<v Speaker 2>He's just looking up at Frank.

1141
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>This is a joke coming up that I absolutely did

1142
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:54.599
<v Speaker 1>not understand when I was a kid, and it always

1143
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 1>show and it bothered me that I didn't understand it.

1144
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Frank apologizes to the man and says, I'm sorry, I

1145
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:04.519
<v Speaker 1>thought you were Richard Pryor and exits out of there

1146
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 1>very quickly. In the early eighties, Richard Pryor accidentally lit

1147
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:08.880
<v Speaker 1>himself on fire.

1148
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all freebasing cocaine. Yeah.

1149
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:13.599
<v Speaker 1>I did not know that because I was seven when

1150
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I first saw this movie or eight, and so, like

1151
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>my parents would not have turned to me and been like, so,

1152
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:21.400
<v Speaker 1>just so you know what's happening here is this.

1153
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Is a reference. Richard Pryor's a comedian.

1154
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 1>Richard Pryce. No I knew who Richard Pryor was.

1155
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh what at seven?

1156
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? See you no evil? Hear no evil right from

1157
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:32.639
<v Speaker 1>his movies, not his stand up that is yet. No,

1158
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I loved his stand up when I was seven. All

1159
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:36.679
<v Speaker 1>in on Richard.

1160
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:40.519
<v Speaker 2>Pryor there's a great fall here. It's a pratt fall

1161
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.360
<v Speaker 2>as he's leaving the restaurant and I enod up and

1162
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:44.599
<v Speaker 2>they said it was real. Look, if it is a pratfall,

1163
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.239
<v Speaker 2>top notch fucking pratfall. And if it isn't, good job

1164
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:49.519
<v Speaker 2>staying in the moment so they can keep it in

1165
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the movie.

1166
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1167
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Frank jumps into the first cab he sees, even though

1168
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 2>it just hit another cab. He's like, just get me

1169
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:57.719
<v Speaker 2>the fuck out of here, and is confronted by the

1170
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:01.400
<v Speaker 2>somewhat worse for where ghost of Chris Smith's past, played

1171
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 2>by David Johansson.

1172
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I love this performance.

1173
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I one hundred percent agree with you. We are on

1174
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the same boat.

1175
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 1>He is the best of the ghosts, honestly. Yeah, honestly,

1176
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 1>in a film where Carol Kane is another one of

1177
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.039
<v Speaker 1>the ghosts. Yeah, David Johansson still gets the most laughs

1178
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:17.320
<v Speaker 1>out of me.

1179
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that. He's kind of odd looking dude anyway,

1180
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:22.719
<v Speaker 2>but like they're really like he has pointy eaters here,

1181
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:26.199
<v Speaker 2>and like he looks like a satyr or something like that.

1182
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Like he's otherworldly.

1183
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Good actor, right, he's for those of you who don't

1184
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>know he's a musician. He's in the New York Dolls.

1185
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:33.960
<v Speaker 1>He's a punk legend.

1186
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1187
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.360
<v Speaker 1>It always shocks me when when a musician is just

1188
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:38.119
<v Speaker 1>a good.

1189
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Actor, there's good they could just also act.

1190
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah they can also remember Tom Waits, Oh yeah in

1191
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Dracula being fucking great. Collect Tom Waits can act, so

1192
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:47.559
<v Speaker 1>can David Johansson.

1193
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:50.920
<v Speaker 2>So he's driving the cab and the Ghost of Christmas

1194
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Past doesn't care about traffic lights, or speed limits or

1195
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 2>general safety at all, and Frank is a terrifying ride

1196
00:55:56.719 --> 00:55:58.679
<v Speaker 2>through the streets of Manhattan until they go through a

1197
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:01.760
<v Speaker 2>cloud of smoke and up on a festive suburban street

1198
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:03.559
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty five.

1199
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.719
<v Speaker 1>So, okay, we are in nineteen fifty five. They pull

1200
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.280
<v Speaker 1>up to Frank's childhood home and we see that it's

1201
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:13.159
<v Speaker 1>the only one on the street that isn't decorated for Christmas. Yeah,

1202
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Frank insists he's not going to get all blubbery and

1203
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>sentimental just because he's about to see his parents. And

1204
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:21.440
<v Speaker 1>David Johanson again as the Ghost to Christmas Pass, is like,

1205
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you say that now, but when Attila the Hunt saw

1206
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:28.639
<v Speaker 1>his mother na yahgro Foles, he points to his eyes the.

1207
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Accent really is I presume it's just his accent, but

1208
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 2>it is perfect, so.

1209
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:37.679
<v Speaker 1>So fucking Brooklyn, deep Gravelly Brooklyn. They go inside and

1210
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:41.559
<v Speaker 1>Frank is confronted by his very sad and lonely childhood,

1211
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 1>with a silently suffering mother and a very cruel father.

1212
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Little Frank's only enjoyment comes from watching television, and when

1213
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Frank sees his mother wishing four year old him Merry Christmas,

1214
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Frankie Angel and then going to bed, Big Frank starts

1215
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>to weep. He can't, he can't control it. As they

1216
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>exit the house, he tells the ghost of Christmas Past

1217
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that he looked it wasn't all sadness. You're just showing

1218
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:09.400
<v Speaker 1>me one sad event. I had a great childhood. I

1219
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:11.840
<v Speaker 1>scored the winning home one in the Big Game once,

1220
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and there was another time where this beautiful girl was

1221
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:18.920
<v Speaker 1>running across a field of flowers to me and we

1222
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>were deeply in love. And the Ghost of Christmas Past

1223
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 1>is like, you are pathetic. Those are things that happened

1224
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:28.719
<v Speaker 1>on television. You are remembering scenes from TV shows.

1225
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one of them was the Little House in the Prairie.

1226
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.079
<v Speaker 1>He goes, give me the homecoming episode of Little home

1227
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Coming episode of Little House, and Frank realizes, oh shit,

1228
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.320
<v Speaker 1>my childhood really was dog shit.

1229
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Frank demands that the ghosts take him to his office,

1230
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:44.639
<v Speaker 2>and the ghost obliges. We cut to IBC headquarters in

1231
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:49.320
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty eight, so we have jumped ahead thirteen years.

1232
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Frank is now, I guess eighteen.

1233
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:55.679
<v Speaker 1>That will make me laugh every time.

1234
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I did not realize that.

1235
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Do the math. Frank is eighteen looks like Bill Murray

1236
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and also, weirdly, Bill Mury just looks old in this

1237
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>scene anyway.

1238
00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Because he has They should have given him a wig.

1239
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 2>A wig probably would have. It would have looked stupid anyway,

1240
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:11.159
<v Speaker 2>But like he has a widow's peak yeah, like and

1241
00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:18.079
<v Speaker 2>a full mullet like. Uh. It is a swinging office

1242
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.719
<v Speaker 2>holiday party, despite the fact that his coworkers are drinking

1243
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:24.679
<v Speaker 2>and dancing and getting up to all kinds of sixtyes shenanigans.

1244
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:27.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a lady xeroxing her button then handing it out

1245
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.159
<v Speaker 1>like Christmas cards to the rest of the queen. I

1246
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:31.119
<v Speaker 1>fucking love this woman.

1247
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Frank doesn't stop working long enough to join the party

1248
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and lou the Jacob Marley analog form earlier he's alive,

1249
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:42.159
<v Speaker 2>he's young. He pulls young Frank aside and he tells

1250
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:47.320
<v Speaker 2>him to enjoy himself. Very odd to make the Jacob

1251
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Marley analog and the fs A wig like those are

1252
00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:52.760
<v Speaker 2>different characters in the Christmas Carol and they've they have

1253
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 2>married them here, which speak to your point of like this.

1254
00:58:56.440 --> 00:58:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Guy seems like he was fine, yes, really sweet.

1255
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Actually why not just make that different person anyway, it

1256
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.079
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. Frank boils in the party, and he even

1257
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 2>turns down the advances of a very friendly coworker.

1258
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Was this the one, Tina? It's the same woman butt

1259
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>seroxing her button and like being like, here, Merry Christmas.

1260
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Xeroxing your butt was how you could tell someone you

1261
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:18.119
<v Speaker 2>were DTF in nineteen sixteen, it was.

1262
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 1>It's so excellent. Yeah, present day Frank follows young Frank

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00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:22.480
<v Speaker 1>eighteen year old.

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00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Frank eighteen year old. That actually is the funniest thing

1265
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:27.360
<v Speaker 2>in the now that I know he's supposed to be eighteen,

1266
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:32.400
<v Speaker 2>because in my head I was like, oh, he's twenty five,

1267
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:35.519
<v Speaker 2>which is already which is still ridiculous. But you're like, okay,

1268
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 2>he's an adults whatever, Like you're not going to date

1269
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:41.199
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't d agent back then, and fine, but eighteen.

1270
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:43.800
<v Speaker 1>He should have leaned into it and just had Frank

1271
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:45.880
<v Speaker 1>like like Bill Murray be like, but I'm.

1272
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Eighteen, I couldn't have any drink anything to drink. I'm

1273
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:49.639
<v Speaker 2>not a of age yet.

1274
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>So young Frank has his first encounter with Claire. She

1275
00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:57.400
<v Speaker 1>accidentally hits him with the door as she's exiting a

1276
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>shop and he falls to the sidewalk and she's like,

1277
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:03.000
<v Speaker 1>are you okay? And they have a meet cute and

1278
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:05.400
<v Speaker 1>she nicknames him Lumpy because he's gonna have a big

1279
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:07.159
<v Speaker 1>lump on his head the next day from where he

1280
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.880
<v Speaker 1>hit the sidewalk, and the two of them basically fall

1281
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:10.840
<v Speaker 1>in love at first sight.

1282
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:14.559
<v Speaker 2>This scene has a line that I love in this movie.

1283
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:17.679
<v Speaker 2>She's walking away and like, you know, they're doing the

1284
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:19.320
<v Speaker 2>doing the meat Joe Black thing where you're hoping one

1285
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:20.639
<v Speaker 2>of them get hit by a car, but they don't.

1286
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:22.920
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, would you like to go to a

1287
01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Christmas party that's going on right now? And she looks

1288
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:27.079
<v Speaker 2>back with the big caroen Alan smile and she goes

1289
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:31.000
<v Speaker 2>not really relatable, very relatable.

1290
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:34.199
<v Speaker 1>So the Ghost of Christmas Pass takes Frank to Christmas Eve,

1291
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:38.320
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty nine. One year later, nineteen year old Frank

1292
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:41.960
<v Speaker 1>now Clara and Frank are living together in a tiny

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01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 1>apartment in the village, and they are very happy and

1294
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>in love. These are the salad days, the halcyon days

1295
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.519
<v Speaker 1>of your They open presents and he gives her a

1296
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.119
<v Speaker 1>set of knives, which is I think that I didn't

1297
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 1>get this when I was a kid, but I'm getting

1298
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:56.480
<v Speaker 1>it now. In the scene with his parents, his dad

1299
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 1>never gave him presents. Yeah, he brought home like five

1300
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:01.559
<v Speaker 1>pounds of for the family and was like, there's your

1301
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Christmas present, kid, Yeah, you get to eat. And so like,

1302
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.199
<v Speaker 1>I think he thinks this is an incredibly romantic gift

1303
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>because his idea of what a gift should be is

1304
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:13.639
<v Speaker 1>so based and like it has to be functional. Yeah, yeah,

1305
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:15.840
<v Speaker 1>And so he's he's like, I hope you like it,

1306
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and she's so sweet because.

1307
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:18.320
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I love it.

1308
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:19.320
<v Speaker 1>It's nice.

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01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:21.760
<v Speaker 2>That does make it. I didn't get because I that

1310
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:23.079
<v Speaker 2>was a moment where I was like, I feel like

1311
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm missing something. But now that you say it makes sense.

1312
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not made explicit in the movie. I'm doing a

1313
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:29.599
<v Speaker 1>little bit of work and I've seen the movie a lot,

1314
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:31.599
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, actually, that makes a lot of sense.

1315
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:34.719
<v Speaker 1>He's bad at giving gifts, even in the future.

1316
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Fucking towels come on, right, VCR is a good gift

1317
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:40.360
<v Speaker 2>in ninet eighty eight.

1318
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:42.599
<v Speaker 1>That's a great gift. But like even for a cheap gift,

1319
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.239
<v Speaker 1>like just flowers, Just send flowers. Man, if you're not like,

1320
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:45.880
<v Speaker 1>what are you.

1321
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Doing, send me the twenty bucks.

1322
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a gift card. So he gives her

1323
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a set of knives, and she gives him a copy

1324
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.599
<v Speaker 1>of the Kama Sutra. It's very cute, and he starts

1325
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:57.440
<v Speaker 1>looking through it and he goes, done that, done that,

1326
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:00.679
<v Speaker 1>done that, did that twice, and she's laughing, and then

1327
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:02.800
<v Speaker 1>he goes, look, it says here that if you touch

1328
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a woman behind her neck a certain way, she'll start

1329
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to bark like a dog. And she plays along and

1330
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:11.920
<v Speaker 1>she's like, she starts to pant, and the camera pans

1331
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:14.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the apartments. You don't see anymore. But he's like,

1332
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.599
<v Speaker 1>good doggie. So they engage in some fun dog themed

1333
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 1>for play. Who has it this is important because of

1334
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:21.360
<v Speaker 1>what's coming up next, more.

1335
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Or less weird than the Donald Duck themed for play.

1336
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:26.079
<v Speaker 2>We're pretty sure Gilda Radner and Gen Wilder.

1337
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Ha way less weird. I was into this. He used

1338
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to look like they're having a good time. I get

1339
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I followed them on the journey of where they got

1340
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:37.199
<v Speaker 1>to where they're going, and donkey style is a thing. Sure,

1341
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:38.760
<v Speaker 1>So yes, this all.

1342
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Makes Puppy play is a whole thing going on right now.

1343
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Perfect fucking sense to me.

1344
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:46.400
<v Speaker 2>So the Ghost takes Frank to Christmas Eve nineteen seventy one,

1345
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:49.159
<v Speaker 2>where young Frank is playing a giant dog on a

1346
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.760
<v Speaker 2>kid's TV show. What was Frank's career path to go

1347
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:53.280
<v Speaker 2>from the.

1348
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Dog themed foreplay to this is just what a perfect cut? Yeah,

1349
01:02:58.000 --> 01:02:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Frank's career is insane.

1350
01:02:59.119 --> 01:02:59.840
<v Speaker 2>It's insane.

1351
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.719
<v Speaker 1>He goes from the mailroom co hosting a kid's.

1352
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Show to president president of the IBC. Lou invites Frank

1353
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.679
<v Speaker 2>and Claire out to dinner that night, and Frank accepts

1354
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:12.679
<v Speaker 2>the invite without hesitation, And when Claire tells him they

1355
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:14.559
<v Speaker 2>can't have dinner with Lou, they have a tradition of

1356
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.239
<v Speaker 2>spending Christmas Eve with their best friends. Frank calls her

1357
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:19.400
<v Speaker 2>selfish for not thinking about his career and putting her

1358
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:20.639
<v Speaker 2>needs before his Okay.

1359
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Frank is wrong. Frank is wrong, but Claire calls it

1360
01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:28.599
<v Speaker 1>a tradition. Yeah, two years ago they were not spending dinner,

1361
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:30.880
<v Speaker 1>they were not spending Christmas Eve with those friends. They

1362
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:33.800
<v Speaker 1>were having dog themed sets in their apartment. Good for them.

1363
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.719
<v Speaker 1>So they spent last year with their best friends and

1364
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.480
<v Speaker 1>now this year. Girl, that's not a tradition. It has

1365
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:42.360
<v Speaker 1>to happen at least three years in a row for

1366
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it to become a tradition.

1367
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

1368
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Frank's being a dick, but you can't call it a tradition.

1369
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm just gonna put that out there.

1370
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not completely not on his side for this, honestly. Yeah, Like,

1371
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't be a dick about it, but just

1372
01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:58.360
<v Speaker 2>be like, this is a really important thing for me

1373
01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 2>in my career. And it's funny because because the movie's

1374
01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:03.199
<v Speaker 2>jumping around, we obviously don't get to see if, like

1375
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.199
<v Speaker 2>how their relationship is doing. But like it breaks up

1376
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 2>very quickly, right, because what's gonna happen in the scene

1377
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:10.519
<v Speaker 2>is she's gonna be like, maybe she'd spend some time

1378
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:12.360
<v Speaker 2>apart and he's like fine, like and you're like you

1379
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:16.480
<v Speaker 2>were you were humping like Rottwilers, like literally ninety seconds ago,

1380
01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:20.559
<v Speaker 2>and now you're breaking up over this kind of not

1381
01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:22.239
<v Speaker 2>a low key art.

1382
01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, it is a low key argument's key argument. Yeah,

1383
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and you live together. Fine, she can go spend Christmas

1384
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Eve with her friends, you go to dinner like it's

1385
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:31.880
<v Speaker 1>not you're not going to see each other in three hours.

1386
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Or also you could just say, you go ahead,

1387
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:36.079
<v Speaker 2>I have to go to this meeting. This could be

1388
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:38.280
<v Speaker 2>really big. I'll come as soon as I can. Yeah,

1389
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:40.320
<v Speaker 2>And that should be fine.

1390
01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:42.880
<v Speaker 1>It should be fine. There are little clues in this

1391
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.840
<v Speaker 1>scene that Frank has changed, so like at one point

1392
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:48.239
<v Speaker 1>some guy comes up to him like on the set

1393
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:51.360
<v Speaker 1>like a pa and hands him a towel and Frank goes, thanks, babe.

1394
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.559
<v Speaker 1>But I think you're right. There needs to have been

1395
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.719
<v Speaker 1>one more step, yeah, in the middle between that last

1396
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:58.800
<v Speaker 1>scene and this scene, because I'm like, this broke up

1397
01:04:59.079 --> 01:04:59.840
<v Speaker 1>for no reason.

1398
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:04.559
<v Speaker 2>I think in the masterpiece that was there. Yeah, I think, well,

1399
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:07.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think the movie to me, I think

1400
01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:09.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot of my issues in the movie, and a

1401
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:11.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of the way you enjoy it, I think partially

1402
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:13.599
<v Speaker 2>is because you've seen it so much you can track

1403
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.519
<v Speaker 2>like those little bits and pieces where if you only

1404
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:20.559
<v Speaker 2>watch it once, there's so much moving and changing that

1405
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I just feel like I'm running to try

1406
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to keep up with the movie. And then the emotional

1407
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:27.440
<v Speaker 2>art doesn't work because I'm like, but wait, where am I?

1408
01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:31.199
<v Speaker 2>When am I? What's happening kind of thing? Annie crap.

1409
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Claire says we need to break up, and he basically

1410
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:35.800
<v Speaker 2>is like fine, and he goes back to set, and

1411
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:40.360
<v Speaker 2>as the door closes on Claire, she quietly says, Merry Christmas, lumpy,

1412
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:41.800
<v Speaker 2>but he doesn't hear her.

1413
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:43.840
<v Speaker 1>No, he's already doing the dog show.

1414
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so fifteen years she will pine for this man

1415
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:50.519
<v Speaker 2>who she last.

1416
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Saw wearing a giant dog costume.

1417
01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I look, from what we know of their sex, maybe

1418
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what, maybe maybe he pitched because the show

1419
01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:01.719
<v Speaker 2>is called Frisbee right, uh huh, maybe he pitched Frisbee

1420
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:03.920
<v Speaker 2>based on their sexcapades.

1421
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Frisbee Show is Frisbee Show, low key like like, yeah, uh.

1422
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:09.679
<v Speaker 2>They've had some fun in that costume.

1423
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, in the early in the late seventies,

1424
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:14.400
<v Speaker 1>it would have been very hard to find a man

1425
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.159
<v Speaker 1>who's willing to dress up as a dog for you. Yeah,

1426
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:19.519
<v Speaker 1>and she found him and now she's losing him.

1427
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:20.199
<v Speaker 2>She's losing him.

1428
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 1>So the ghost of Christmas past abandons Frank at the

1429
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:26.960
<v Speaker 1>TV station, and Frank suddenly finds himself in the present day.

1430
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.440
<v Speaker 1>He's at the rehearsal for Scrooge. It's the scene where

1431
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Belle breaks up with Ebenezer and tells him that she

1432
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:36.239
<v Speaker 1>hopes he'll be happy with the path that he has chosen,

1433
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:40.079
<v Speaker 1>and Frank goes, I am happy with the path I've chosen,

1434
01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:45.599
<v Speaker 1>you little bitch. I couldn't be happier. Rehearsal screeches to

1435
01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a halt, and Frank loudly proclaims that no one could

1436
01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:51.440
<v Speaker 1>be as good and caring and wonderful as Claire seemed

1437
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 1>to be. He decides to check out her little homeless

1438
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:58.800
<v Speaker 1>shelter and see for himself. He is cracking.

1439
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not a good bet to be. Like, I'm going

1440
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:03.039
<v Speaker 2>to go to that homeless shelter you say, you run,

1441
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:05.559
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna find all the selfish things that you're

1442
01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:08.800
<v Speaker 2>doing there. That's that's good. That's not gonna have a

1443
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:09.440
<v Speaker 2>high success.

1444
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Right then it's so like him and the actress turn

1445
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to him and they're like, are you crazy, what are

1446
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you doing?

1447
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Frank rants all the way to Operation Rescue,

1448
01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:20.119
<v Speaker 2>and he's ranting about how he's not lonely, and he's

1449
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:23.320
<v Speaker 2>never been lonely, well except maybe on his birthdays and

1450
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.079
<v Speaker 2>on the weekends, and maybe on sunsets. I'm lonely, but

1451
01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:29.960
<v Speaker 2>not usually. Usually I'm very not lonely. One of Claire's

1452
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:32.639
<v Speaker 2>coworkers assumes that Frank is there for help and rushes

1453
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:33.719
<v Speaker 2>over the foot of blanket.

1454
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Around him walked in, ranting like a lunatic. She goes, oh, no,

1455
01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:38.199
<v Speaker 1>we got another one.

1456
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:41.960
<v Speaker 2>We we got a live one. Frank is approached by

1457
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.960
<v Speaker 2>three very friendly residents of Operation Rescue. One of them

1458
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:46.079
<v Speaker 2>is from Goonies.

1459
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:50.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh I forgot that actresses Mama Anne Ramsey. Yes, yes,

1460
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:53.280
<v Speaker 1>well I believe the person playing her the other the

1461
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:55.800
<v Speaker 1>other man is her husband. Oh it's so it's a

1462
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:57.199
<v Speaker 1>real life husband wife Parry.

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01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:00.639
<v Speaker 2>That's cute. And they tell him that he's Richard Burton.

1464
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:02.400
<v Speaker 1>They think he looks like Richard Burton. And I had

1465
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:04.880
<v Speaker 1>to pause the movie. And I didn't get any of

1466
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:06.679
<v Speaker 1>this when I was a kid at all. I was

1467
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:08.679
<v Speaker 1>this all went super over my head. I'm like, why

1468
01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:11.679
<v Speaker 1>are they calling him Dick. Why is he suddenly doing this.

1469
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand who's Liz he keeps referring to. And now,

1470
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 1>as an adult watching this movie, I was like, oh.

1471
01:08:18.760 --> 01:08:20.439
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, he doesn't look anything like

1472
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Richard Burton. And then I really looked at him and

1473
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I was like, actually, Bill Murray does look a little bit.

1474
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:28.079
<v Speaker 2>There's not not a resemblance there.

1475
01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:30.199
<v Speaker 1>And then I realized, well, Richard Burton wasn't as good

1476
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:34.000
<v Speaker 1>looking as I thought he was fair. Claire approaches and

1477
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Frank hugs her and tells her that he's been thinking

1478
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.520
<v Speaker 1>about the past and about some of the decisions that

1479
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:40.720
<v Speaker 1>he has made and and some of his regrets. And

1480
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Claire's eyes light up at that at that last.

1481
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Word, and she's she's like gun, and she's.

1482
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I brought the caller whip it whippod.

1483
01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:54.720
<v Speaker 2>That's about the name of a dog read and a

1484
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:55.319
<v Speaker 2>sex act and.

1485
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:59.039
<v Speaker 1>A sex act. It's perfect. And she tells him, look,

1486
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:01.079
<v Speaker 1>it's the good thing about is it's never too late

1487
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:03.439
<v Speaker 1>to change and fix the situation. And he tells her,

1488
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to take you out to dinner tonight, and

1489
01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:08.399
<v Speaker 1>she says yes, and just as they're about to like

1490
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:11.159
<v Speaker 1>run off into the sunset together. Two of her volunteers

1491
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:13.840
<v Speaker 1>approach and there are some crisis at work. This is

1492
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Eve. First of all, one of the fuses has blown. Okay,

1493
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not a crisis. She'll show this woman where the

1494
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:22.640
<v Speaker 1>other fuses are. The other woman comes up to her

1495
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, none of the turkeys were delivered for

1496
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.760
<v Speaker 1>dinner tonight from the amp, and Claire's like, whoa, they

1497
01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:33.159
<v Speaker 1>should have been delivered hours ago. Frank turns on a dime.

1498
01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:37.319
<v Speaker 1>He goes from thrilled to so angry that these two

1499
01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:40.479
<v Speaker 1>women are interrupting his reunion with his long lost love.

1500
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:44.720
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, well, they can figure this out for themselves.

1501
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:47.439
<v Speaker 1>They're big girls. And then he makes a weird fat

1502
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:49.560
<v Speaker 1>joke about them about one of the body goes, they're

1503
01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:52.119
<v Speaker 1>really big girls, and one of them like does this

1504
01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:54.479
<v Speaker 1>thing where she like pounds his chest at It's like,

1505
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:56.960
<v Speaker 1>fuck you man. She's like, just give me a few

1506
01:09:57.039 --> 01:09:59.720
<v Speaker 1>minutes to finish up. And he's like, you know what,

1507
01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:01.399
<v Speaker 1>for get it. If you're not gonna leave with me

1508
01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:03.560
<v Speaker 1>right now, then just forget it. And she's like, why

1509
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.119
<v Speaker 1>does your attitude suck so much? What's going on with you,

1510
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and he gives her this cruel piece of advice. He goes,

1511
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:12.159
<v Speaker 1>scrape him off, Claire, if you want to save someone,

1512
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:15.439
<v Speaker 1>save yourself, And then she's like, well, that's a really

1513
01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:18.039
<v Speaker 1>great attitude to have, and he goes ba humbug and

1514
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:18.880
<v Speaker 1>storms out.

1515
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Frank goes back to work, where they're rehearsing a scene

1516
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:24.399
<v Speaker 2>in which Scrooge is cruel to a group of homeless children.

1517
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:31.520
<v Speaker 2>In Frank's absence, Bryce has taken over running the production

1518
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and uh, oh, he's good at.

1519
01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:36.960
<v Speaker 1>It, galling, how dare he? Hy dare he? He's actually

1520
01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:37.760
<v Speaker 1>very good at it.

1521
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Bryce calls a dinner break and everyone leaves set. Frank

1522
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:45.359
<v Speaker 2>is left alone, and then suddenly a spotlight appears and

1523
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.199
<v Speaker 2>illuminates the very ditsy and sweet ghost of Christmas Present,

1524
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:52.920
<v Speaker 2>played by Carol Caine, the Great Carol Cane. Yep, she's

1525
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:56.000
<v Speaker 2>dressed like a ballerina in a sugar plum fairy costume,

1526
01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:58.840
<v Speaker 2>and the que card next to her reads the ball

1527
01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:01.279
<v Speaker 2>breaker sweet, I didn't see that que card. That's funny.

1528
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Frank tries to get tough with her, but it turns

1529
01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:08.039
<v Speaker 2>out she's not easy to push around. She kicks him

1530
01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:10.279
<v Speaker 2>in the balls with a very metallic clank. So I

1531
01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:12.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know if the metal is in is in his

1532
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 2>jock or her foot.

1533
01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:16.439
<v Speaker 1>My guess is those those shoes.

1534
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Have some metal in them. And then she slaps him

1535
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:20.199
<v Speaker 2>in the face when he doesn't do as she says.

1536
01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I will say this every time Carol can hit Bill Murray.

1537
01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:24.319
<v Speaker 2>I left every single time.

1538
01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:28.279
<v Speaker 1>The joke that she is this like sweet little angel fairy,

1539
01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:30.239
<v Speaker 1>but then like when he fucks with her, she just

1540
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.439
<v Speaker 1>hits it really hard. Excellent, excellent.

1541
01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:37.960
<v Speaker 2>She asks him to close your eyes, and once they're closed,

1542
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:41.039
<v Speaker 2>she sprinkles fairy dust on him and then punches him

1543
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:43.039
<v Speaker 2>in the face to bring him to their first destination,

1544
01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:44.920
<v Speaker 2>which is Harlem.

1545
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:47.680
<v Speaker 1>The way she says it like always makes me smile.

1546
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:54.319
<v Speaker 1>She goes Harlo. So the two of them stand on

1547
01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Grace's fire escape and watch as Grace comes home to

1548
01:11:57.439 --> 01:12:00.479
<v Speaker 1>pick up her oldest daughter and take the oldest who

1549
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:05.680
<v Speaker 1>again just doesn't get named sorry Grace Junior and Calvin

1550
01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to the screwge set. That's how overworked Grace is. This

1551
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:11.399
<v Speaker 1>is Christmas Eve. She's rushing from the office to home

1552
01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:14.039
<v Speaker 1>to pick up these two kids that then bring them

1553
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:18.399
<v Speaker 1>back downtown Frank and the Ghost of Christmas Present watches

1554
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Calvin moves off to the side the rest of the family.

1555
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:25.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like a loud, boisterous, cheerful family, right, so loving.

1556
01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:28.920
<v Speaker 1>So Frank sees Calvin moving off to the side from

1557
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the family, so he's not part of

1558
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:33.840
<v Speaker 1>them in a way, and he solves this puzzle really

1559
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:36.159
<v Speaker 1>fast and easy. He's a small kid, but he's like,

1560
01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:39.239
<v Speaker 1>he's obviously whip smart. And Frank is like, what's wrong

1561
01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:41.760
<v Speaker 1>with this kid? Why is he different? And the Ghost

1562
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of Christmas Present informs him that Calvin hasn't spoken since

1563
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:47.159
<v Speaker 1>he saw his father killed five years ago. And Frank

1564
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:48.439
<v Speaker 1>is like, Grace is a widow.

1565
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:53.399
<v Speaker 2>You remember her wearing black for a year.

1566
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:55.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, but I just thought it was fashion.

1567
01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Everyone was wearing black.

1568
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, oh man. This guy is not great. So

1569
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 2>the Ghost of Christmas Present gives Frank a hard right

1570
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.039
<v Speaker 2>hook and he lands in his brother's house and right

1571
01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:13.880
<v Speaker 2>into james Christmas Eve party where he was invited. The

1572
01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:17.039
<v Speaker 2>group is playing trivial Pursuit and James and his wife

1573
01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Wendy played by Wendy Malick, and she is.

1574
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:23.000
<v Speaker 1>So good because she gets almost absolutely nothing to do

1575
01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:25.159
<v Speaker 1>in this film, and yet she elicited tears from me

1576
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:28.319
<v Speaker 1>at one point, like that's how fucking good Wendy Malick is.

1577
01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:31.239
<v Speaker 2>There was there was this viral tweet going around this

1578
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:33.840
<v Speaker 2>past month or something about like at least your top

1579
01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:36.880
<v Speaker 2>five MALEIX about the about Terrence Malick the filmmaker. I

1580
01:13:36.920 --> 01:13:38.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, the best Malick is Wendy.

1581
01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Wendy is a genius.

1582
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Let's just let's just establish one thing right now. Okay,

1583
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 2>So James and Wendy keep missing TV questions like what

1584
01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:50.960
<v Speaker 2>was the name of the boat that took them to

1585
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Gilligan's Island? Which I have to say, even I know that,

1586
01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:56.560
<v Speaker 2>and I have quite literally never seen an episode of

1587
01:13:56.640 --> 01:13:59.479
<v Speaker 2>Gilligan's Island, So people who are adults in xty eighty

1588
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:00.880
<v Speaker 2>eight should definitely know the answer to this.

1589
01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this again. I'm actually going a

1590
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:06.039
<v Speaker 1>little too deep, much deeper than this movie needs me too.

1591
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:08.359
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, the fact that James doesn't have

1592
01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the TV, like didn't watch Obsession that Frank does tells

1593
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:15.880
<v Speaker 1>me that James had a better childhood. I think that's

1594
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:18.520
<v Speaker 1>because of Frank. James is actually able to go outside

1595
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:19.039
<v Speaker 1>and be a kid.

1596
01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:20.520
<v Speaker 2>This was all in the masterpiece.

1597
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>In the mastery, I honestly like, there's something there.

1598
01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Nothing, nothing, None of the connections that you have made

1599
01:14:28.439 --> 01:14:30.159
<v Speaker 2>once you had made them, because you've seen the movie

1600
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:32.600
<v Speaker 2>fifteen times and tell me about them ring untrue to me.

1601
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just like I couldn't catch that on one viewing. No,

1602
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 2>of course not. Okay, So when details James to open

1603
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Frank's gift to see if it's as lame as the

1604
01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:45.000
<v Speaker 2>one he got the year before, which was an IBC shower.

1605
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Curtain, good gravy, Frank, move out.

1606
01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Of the bathroom. Forgive what's actually gold plated toilet plunger.

1607
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, not the twelve piece knife set he

1608
01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:59.880
<v Speaker 1>gave he gave the girlfriend earlier, years earlier. That would

1609
01:14:59.880 --> 01:15:02.479
<v Speaker 1>be fine. Gives bad that I would I'd be very

1610
01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:04.039
<v Speaker 1>happy with a twelve piece knife set.

1611
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Yep. It turns out that Grace went rogue and sent

1612
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:11.239
<v Speaker 2>James a VCR instead of a towel, and James is

1613
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:13.840
<v Speaker 2>clearly touched. Remember what we told you kids, VCR ninty

1614
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:15.039
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight. That's a good gift.

1615
01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of what the equivalent would be today,

1616
01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:21.920
<v Speaker 1>like a car an iPad. Yeah, an iPhone, an iPhone,

1617
01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the equivalent today, punting edge technology, the newest iPhone.

1618
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So James is clearly touched by this gift. He

1619
01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:30.880
<v Speaker 2>proposes a toast to his big brother, who he wishes

1620
01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:33.680
<v Speaker 2>was there that night, and Frank is so moved by

1621
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:35.840
<v Speaker 2>this that he decides not to fire Grace for her

1622
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:40.199
<v Speaker 2>in subordination. Ah. This is, by the way, right after

1623
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:42.000
<v Speaker 2>in the previous scene he was like, oh, she might

1624
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:44.079
<v Speaker 2>be due for a raise. Like he's still pingpong all

1625
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:45.000
<v Speaker 2>over the place. Yeah.

1626
01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:48.000
<v Speaker 1>The Ghost of Christmas Present clocks Frank on the head

1627
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:51.239
<v Speaker 1>with a toaster by one memory in Paul's favorite moment

1628
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:54.479
<v Speaker 1>in the film, and sends him to a frozen gutter

1629
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:57.960
<v Speaker 1>underneath the city streets like genuinely Frozener's icicles.

1630
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Everywhere it looks it looks like a scene set from

1631
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Batman Returns.

1632
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:04.840
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. So now she's disappeared. She's left him

1633
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the way the ghosts of Chris's past left him, and

1634
01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Frank is left alone with the frozen corpse of one

1635
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:13.520
<v Speaker 1>of the men that he met that day at Operation Rescue.

1636
01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:15.840
<v Speaker 1>How fast does it take for someone to freeze to

1637
01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:18.119
<v Speaker 1>say yep, well, because this I can't tell you enough.

1638
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:22.920
<v Speaker 1>This is like frozen corpse, blue ice.

1639
01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:23.880
<v Speaker 2>This is corpsic.

1640
01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:26.760
<v Speaker 1>This is a corpsicle. Also, how cold is it in

1641
01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:28.319
<v Speaker 1>New York City? Because Frank doesn't even.

1642
01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Have a coat on and you can't see his breath.

1643
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:31.640
<v Speaker 2>So what's going on?

1644
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:33.640
<v Speaker 1>What's going on? I don't mean to make fun. This

1645
01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:37.640
<v Speaker 1>is actually a real bummer of a scene. So the

1646
01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:40.800
<v Speaker 1>man is his name is Herman and he's played by

1647
01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Michael J. Pollard in like truly excellent casting because Michael J.

1648
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Pollard is one of those eighties character actors that when

1649
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:49.359
<v Speaker 1>you see his face you just want to give him

1650
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a hug. He has a kind, kind face, just the

1651
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:54.680
<v Speaker 1>kindest face. And earlier in the film, when Frank was

1652
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.560
<v Speaker 1>leaving Operation Rescue, this guy had asked him for two

1653
01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:00.840
<v Speaker 1>bucks to help help him stay warm, and Frank said no,

1654
01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:03.159
<v Speaker 1>but I know another sucker inside will help you. Like

1655
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:06.520
<v Speaker 1>he just blew him off. So Frank sees Herman and

1656
01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:08.920
<v Speaker 1>he does that thing where he doesn't it doesn't compute.

1657
01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:11.479
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, you're not dead, you're fucking with me, right,

1658
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:13.159
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, wake up, come on, man, wake up.

1659
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:15.760
<v Speaker 1>This is a great joke, and then he starts to panic,

1660
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:18.399
<v Speaker 1>realizing that he is dead, and Frank screams at him,

1661
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:21.520
<v Speaker 1>why didn't you stay with Claire. Desperate to get out

1662
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:23.720
<v Speaker 1>of there and get out of the gutter with his

1663
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:27.279
<v Speaker 1>frozen corpse, Frank slams his body against the door to

1664
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the street until he finally breaks through and crashes through

1665
01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:38.720
<v Speaker 1>to the set of Scrooge at IBS or ibs the

1666
01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Iron Beard channel.

1667
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:43.840
<v Speaker 2>IBZ, he's disoriented.

1668
01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Fair, Yeah, fair, He just saw a fucking corpse.

1669
01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:49.680
<v Speaker 2>And has been hit in the face or the balls

1670
01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:54.439
<v Speaker 2>seven to ten times by a mystical being. He's ushered

1671
01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:56.920
<v Speaker 2>off the set by Grace and Bryce, who suggests that

1672
01:17:57.560 --> 01:17:59.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe Frank should steer clear of the set for the

1673
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.039
<v Speaker 2>rest of the night, and Grace is about to take

1674
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Frank to his office when he encounters the actor dressed

1675
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:08.199
<v Speaker 2>as the Ghost of Christmas Future for Scrooge. Yeah right,

1676
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:12.439
<v Speaker 2>so this is not the Scrooged Ghost of Christmas Future.

1677
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.920
<v Speaker 2>This is the Scrooge Ghost of Christmas Future. He freaks out,

1678
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 2>He gets on his knees. He tells the ghost to

1679
01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:23.039
<v Speaker 2>do its worst, and he calls the ghost up Pussy,

1680
01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:26.880
<v Speaker 2>which I'm surprising he got away with him this.

1681
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:29.560
<v Speaker 1>We must be our right, it's peachy thirteen.

1682
01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Is there no other curse? No, he curses.

1683
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:34.239
<v Speaker 1>There is no other cursing.

1684
01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Really, this is it.

1685
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:37.479
<v Speaker 1>There might be like a shit at some point, but

1686
01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that's it.

1687
01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Wow, all right. Bryce ushers the actor playing the ghost

1688
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:43.239
<v Speaker 2>away from Frank and tells Grace to take this lunatic

1689
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:43.880
<v Speaker 2>to his office.

1690
01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:46.479
<v Speaker 1>Back on set, they are three minutes to air, and

1691
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:49.119
<v Speaker 1>we see Mary lou Retton in her Tiny Tim costume,

1692
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:53.479
<v Speaker 1>toss away her crutches, practice her tumbling pass and pronouncing

1693
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:58.720
<v Speaker 1>God bless us everyone. Calvin watches her. Earlier in the movie,

1694
01:18:58.760 --> 01:19:02.439
<v Speaker 1>we saw Calvin watch an original version of a Christmas Carol,

1695
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:04.439
<v Speaker 1>like the one from the fifties, and he saw the

1696
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:07.239
<v Speaker 1>moment where Tiny Tim says God bless us everyone. So

1697
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:10.199
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of in Calvin's head this line.

1698
01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Frank goes to his office. He fixes himself an extra

1699
01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:16.680
<v Speaker 2>large vodka tab. Yep, it's clear there's so little tab

1700
01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:19.119
<v Speaker 2>and it's just vodka on ice with a splash of tab. Yeap.

1701
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:21.640
<v Speaker 2>He opens his Christmas present from James and it's a

1702
01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:24.159
<v Speaker 2>handmade photo frame with a picture of them as kids

1703
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.560
<v Speaker 2>in it, and the inscription reads to Frank the best

1704
01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:31.199
<v Speaker 2>brother a guy ever had, and Frank can barely contain

1705
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:34.399
<v Speaker 2>tears as he downs his drink. He sits with it. Now,

1706
01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:36.760
<v Speaker 2>as I was watching this, this came back to me.

1707
01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:39.119
<v Speaker 1>This is the only other thing in the movie, I

1708
01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:40.880
<v Speaker 1>bet because this is scary that I was like.

1709
01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait, I remember that, which I think this is probably

1710
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the moment that I was really like, because I did

1711
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:47.479
<v Speaker 2>watch the whole movie, because I saw Carol Kane's at

1712
01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:50.119
<v Speaker 2>that point, you're not going to watch Kenny. Yeah, this

1713
01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I remembered as soon as it started. I was like, Oh,

1714
01:19:52.159 --> 01:19:53.439
<v Speaker 2>this scared the shit of me as a kid.

1715
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I actually have a memory of seeing this as

1716
01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:57.720
<v Speaker 1>a kid and being like, oh, that's spooky.

1717
01:19:58.199 --> 01:20:00.079
<v Speaker 2>Frank is sitting with his back to the tower of

1718
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.960
<v Speaker 2>TV screens in his office and he doesn't see the

1719
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:06.960
<v Speaker 2>real Ghost of Christmas Future take over every TV and

1720
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:09.239
<v Speaker 2>it starts to reach its bony hand out, and then

1721
01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:12.359
<v Speaker 2>we cut to the Ghost of Christmas Futures perspective and

1722
01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:16.199
<v Speaker 2>we see its hand reaching out to grab Frank. So

1723
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:18.960
<v Speaker 2>an actual, like physical prop is reaching out to someundly

1724
01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:21.520
<v Speaker 2>grab Frank. Yeah, just as it's about to grab him.

1725
01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:25.520
<v Speaker 2>A very drunk elliot, remember Elliott, Bobcat Golden Wait, Bob.

1726
01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I have cut him out. The movie has been returning

1727
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:32.279
<v Speaker 1>to Elliott periodically. He has been getting progressively more and

1728
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:32.960
<v Speaker 1>more drunk.

1729
01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Elliott bursts into his office. He's very drunk. He has

1730
01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:38.680
<v Speaker 2>a shotgun and he says, Honey, I'm home. I'm not

1731
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:40.560
<v Speaker 2>even gonna attempt to try to do the Bobcat Goldwate

1732
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:43.239
<v Speaker 2>for us. I can't do it hard voice, and he

1733
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:45.840
<v Speaker 2>tries to kill Frank. Frank underreacts.

1734
01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:49.199
<v Speaker 1>They do this like they genuinely do like a bugs

1735
01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Bunny moment here. Yeah, Like he's like the elliot is

1736
01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:54.199
<v Speaker 1>bugs Bunny, and he's he's doing like a voice, and

1737
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:57.239
<v Speaker 1>there's there's I feel like there's like a sound cue

1738
01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:00.399
<v Speaker 1>here that's like the patter of feet, like as Frank

1739
01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:02.479
<v Speaker 1>runs away. Really I'm making that up.

1740
01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't notice it.

1741
01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:05.720
<v Speaker 1>If I might be there, I know the gunshot sound

1742
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like pew. It's straight out of Looney Tunes. Yeah, I'm

1743
01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:10.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna tell you right now, this does not

1744
01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:13.479
<v Speaker 1>age well. It doesn't and it does not work. I

1745
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:14.520
<v Speaker 1>hate this part of the movie.

1746
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:18.119
<v Speaker 2>This was my biggest problem with the movie.

1747
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Why Paul this just like you said, I can't I

1748
01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:25.920
<v Speaker 1>can't understand why it's so funny. It's so funny to

1749
01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:28.199
<v Speaker 1>watch someone run around in office with a shotgun.

1750
01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Frank runs through the office. He tries to convince Elliott

1751
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:37.119
<v Speaker 2>that he's had a very bad day. Not the tactic

1752
01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:39.560
<v Speaker 2>you want to use. Not when when the drunk man

1753
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:41.439
<v Speaker 2>that you fired, who we find out in the rest

1754
01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:42.920
<v Speaker 2>of the movie, like got his wife threw out of

1755
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the house, he's been on the street the whole night,

1756
01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and like when he comes in, don't be like I've

1757
01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:48.760
<v Speaker 2>had a worse day than you. I don't have time

1758
01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:51.199
<v Speaker 2>try to try to empathize anyway.

1759
01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Money at the problem.

1760
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Elliott counters with his own bad day. He lost his job,

1761
01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:58.640
<v Speaker 2>his wife left him, he took their daughter with her,

1762
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:01.720
<v Speaker 2>and Frank manages to escape into the elevator where the

1763
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.520
<v Speaker 2>real ghost of Christmas Future is and finally has Frank

1764
01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:06.760
<v Speaker 2>all to himself.

1765
01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:10.279
<v Speaker 1>The ghost of Christmas Future in this film, the real

1766
01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:13.520
<v Speaker 1>one has a screen for a face. It is a

1767
01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:16.920
<v Speaker 1>television screen, and it's wearing this long black cloak. And

1768
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I said this earlier, but like the cloak

1769
01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:22.279
<v Speaker 1>opens up and a torso is made of tortured souls

1770
01:22:22.600 --> 01:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>screaming to get out. It is so creepy.

1771
01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:25.399
<v Speaker 2>It's creepy.

1772
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:30.199
<v Speaker 1>It's excellent. And Frank still isn't sure it's the real ghost.

1773
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:32.560
<v Speaker 1>He still thinks maybe is part of the production. And

1774
01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:34.600
<v Speaker 1>he goes he looks at the tortured souls and he

1775
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>goes like, yeah, we're gonna get letters about that.

1776
01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:38.520
<v Speaker 2>That was funny.

1777
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:40.479
<v Speaker 1>That's this is a lot, This is too much. Maybe,

1778
01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:43.880
<v Speaker 1>so the ghost takes Frank. All the other flashbacks had

1779
01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:46.119
<v Speaker 1>like a veneer of realism to them. Yeah, that's not

1780
01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:49.439
<v Speaker 1>what's happening with the future. The future is this expressionistic,

1781
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.880
<v Speaker 1>dystopian place. Suddenly Frank is in like a hallway that's tilted.

1782
01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:56.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a totally different visual language from the rest of

1783
01:22:56.600 --> 01:23:00.279
<v Speaker 1>this film, right, and this one almost looks sci fi. Yeah,

1784
01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:01.039
<v Speaker 1>it looks like sci fi.

1785
01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:01.399
<v Speaker 2>It does.

1786
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And he sees this dystopian future where Calvin is

1787
01:23:05.479 --> 01:23:08.279
<v Speaker 1>locked in a padded cell forever and Grace comes to

1788
01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:11.479
<v Speaker 1>visit him and Calvin doesn't even acknowledge her. And Claire

1789
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:14.359
<v Speaker 1>has decided to take Frank's advice and is now this

1790
01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>like awful cruel unfeeling person, and like she's sitting with

1791
01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:23.119
<v Speaker 1>her girlfriends in this high society cafe and there's like

1792
01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>a group of kids begging for money and food and

1793
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.239
<v Speaker 1>she goes, oh, look at those urchins. Send them away.

1794
01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>And her friends are like Claire, They're just children, and

1795
01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Claire's like, I decided to take some advice from a

1796
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>friend scrape them off.

1797
01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Karen Allen looks amazing in this.

1798
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>So creepy in this scene because like all her friends

1799
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>sitting around the table are it all. It's all done

1800
01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:48.439
<v Speaker 1>in like black and white, and all of her friends

1801
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:51.279
<v Speaker 1>are like in normal makeup for a black and white scene,

1802
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>and she is in like pancake white makeup and like

1803
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:58.479
<v Speaker 1>deep eyeliner. And then he sees James and Wendy putting

1804
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:02.000
<v Speaker 1>his own body in a crematate because there's no funeral

1805
01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:05.079
<v Speaker 1>for someone as unloved as Frank. It's just James and

1806
01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Wendy burning Frank's body.

1807
01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:09.239
<v Speaker 2>This is not a criticism, This is a genuine question.

1808
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:13.239
<v Speaker 2>The movie seems to propose that, like being cremated is

1809
01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:18.760
<v Speaker 2>in some way like worse than being buried. I didn't

1810
01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:21.119
<v Speaker 2>get that, Like, is it just because it's like no

1811
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:22.720
<v Speaker 2>one's spending the money on you to actually bury it.

1812
01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:23.760
<v Speaker 2>No one wants to even Oh.

1813
01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:26.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think anything of that. I genuinely thought it

1814
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:28.880
<v Speaker 1>was just a cool visual effect of like what's gonna happen,

1815
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Like cooler than being buried alive.

1816
01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Sure, okay, yes I was. I was trying to parse

1817
01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:35.079
<v Speaker 2>what was going on because it's.

1818
01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Also burning in hell, like you're now going to burn

1819
01:24:37.359 --> 01:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>in the fires of hell, right, Like that's the that's.

1820
01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:41.560
<v Speaker 2>What they're trying to do. But what made me laugh

1821
01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:43.680
<v Speaker 2>about it was the fact that he's still in a coffin,

1822
01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.159
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, famously expensive. You don't want to buy

1823
01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the cough if you're going to be cremated, Yeah, yeah,

1824
01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:52.159
<v Speaker 2>just going going nude.

1825
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they would put a coffin in a crematorium.

1826
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:57.119
<v Speaker 2>That's seems like wasted energy.

1827
01:24:57.600 --> 01:25:00.239
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna melt a lot of steel there. That's not good.

1828
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:04.399
<v Speaker 1>This is so silly, But like the my my other

1829
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:08.640
<v Speaker 1>favorite Christmas Carol is the Disney one. I love the

1830
01:25:08.760 --> 01:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Disney one with Scrooge McDuck and there is a burning

1831
01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>in Hell like sequence in that one where the ghost

1832
01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of Christmas Future grabs him and throws him in his

1833
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>grave and then he's like covered in flames. I think

1834
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:24.079
<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. It's the visual of him literally

1835
01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>burning in hell for eternity.

1836
01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Now, no, no, I totally agree, like I got that

1837
01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:31.600
<v Speaker 2>that that because his reaction is a little I mean,

1838
01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>he's like, I died. I died. I'm like spoiler alert,

1839
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:36.079
<v Speaker 2>everybody's gonna die.

1840
01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Because he walks in and he only sees Wendy first,

1841
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, oh, no, James's funeral. He's so sad.

1842
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>And then James walks up and he's like, oh okay,

1843
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:48.319
<v Speaker 1>so wait a minute, wait a minute. If James is here,

1844
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>who the fuck is in the box?

1845
01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:50.840
<v Speaker 2>What's the box?

1846
01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:55.039
<v Speaker 1>What's is the box? So Frank tries to stop the cremation,

1847
01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:58.279
<v Speaker 1>screaming at his brother that he's still alive. These two

1848
01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>actors are nailing it. John Murray and Wendy Mallick are

1849
01:26:02.199 --> 01:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>weeping at Frank's cremation, and this is when when Wendy

1850
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Malick gets me, I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna cry.

1851
01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cry. And suddenly Frank is inside the coffin

1852
01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and he's banging at the coffin door like let me out.

1853
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me out. I want to live. I want to live,

1854
01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:19.199
<v Speaker 1>and the flames start to hit his feet and he

1855
01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:21.399
<v Speaker 1>starts to beg and scream for his life. And the

1856
01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:25.159
<v Speaker 1>last thing he says is I want to live. And

1857
01:26:25.239 --> 01:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>then just as suddenly, Frank finds himself back in the office,

1858
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the elevator doors open and he goes, I'm alive, and

1859
01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the Hallelujah chorus starts playing. Frank starts to happily run

1860
01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:40.439
<v Speaker 1>through his office. He kisses the ib ips and now

1861
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I could That's all I hate think about is IBS.

1862
01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:46.359
<v Speaker 2>The IBS logo is just it. It's just it's just

1863
01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>a toilet, but it's like reaching out to hug you

1864
01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:50.880
<v Speaker 2>circular part like you're home.

1865
01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:55.359
<v Speaker 1>You're homegirl, You're safe here, just sit down, You're safe.

1866
01:26:57.560 --> 01:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>It's actually a logo of the sun. And he goes

1867
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:01.399
<v Speaker 1>up to the wall and kiss it and he goes,

1868
01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I never thought i'd see the sun again. Excellent.

1869
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm thinking about toilets in the eighties. Now

1870
01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>do you remember the toilets that had like the shag,

1871
01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the padded the padded toilets.

1872
01:27:10.359 --> 01:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Wait, it was there, like shag, wasn't there? I kind

1873
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>of as soon as you said that that felt so

1874
01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>correct to me.

1875
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I could be having a fugue state member.

1876
01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Both remembering it like shag carpeting.

1877
01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:27.279
<v Speaker 2>On the toilet, see the toilets, which must have been.

1878
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>The most disgusting thing thing. I do remember the padded

1879
01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>toilet seats, The padded.

1880
01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Toilet seats, I remember. But the padded toilet seats are clean.

1881
01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>You can wipe them down.

1882
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's not.

1883
01:27:40.079 --> 01:27:41.760
<v Speaker 2>It's not fabric just.

1884
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>It literally was like shag carpeting on a toilet. I

1885
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:50.439
<v Speaker 1>have a vivid memory. I think. I don't think this

1886
01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:52.439
<v Speaker 1>is a mass delusion that you and I are having.

1887
01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I think this is to look it up. Pause, pause

1888
01:27:54.840 --> 01:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>here for a moment. Hallelujah chorus. Okay, we're back. Not

1889
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>only was it a thing in the eighties, but Paul, yeah,

1890
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:20.399
<v Speaker 1>you could currently buy it right now at Walmart.

1891
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>No, we were stupid in the eighties. We didn't know.

1892
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like there are other stores where they only sell

1893
01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>the cover is shag like a bed bath and Beyond

1894
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>will have that shag cover, yeah, which is already I

1895
01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>don't like it. I don't like it at all.

1896
01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>But but my flesh is not going.

1897
01:28:34.600 --> 01:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>On there, but on it at Walmart and it's it's

1898
01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>on sale clearance.

1899
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>You guys, I can't imagine why.

1900
01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:49.479
<v Speaker 1>You can buy machine washable, thank god God, toilet covers

1901
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:51.239
<v Speaker 1>that are basically shag carpeting.

1902
01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:53.520
<v Speaker 2>So what do you buy like twenty of them? After

1903
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:55.760
<v Speaker 2>every bathroom use, you have to you have to put

1904
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>it in the in.

1905
01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>The in the washer. I should dishwasher iw.

1906
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Thing to get soap on it. Frankly, you have deep.

1907
01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Fucking burn it. Fuzzy toilet seat covers apparently a huge

1908
01:29:06.720 --> 01:29:09.359
<v Speaker 1>thing in the seventies and eighties. Pinterest has a whole

1909
01:29:09.399 --> 01:29:10.079
<v Speaker 1>story about it.

1910
01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, we were discussing. I had forgotten them until

1911
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I started thinking about a warm, comforting toilet seat.

1912
01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:22.079
<v Speaker 1>I had totally and Okay, the fact that we both

1913
01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>remember it means at some point in our lives.

1914
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:25.279
<v Speaker 2>We both used them.

1915
01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>We parked our asses on someone's fuzzy, shag carpeted toilet.

1916
01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Truly outdated bathroom decor. Shag carpeting toilet seat covers, and

1917
01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:38.079
<v Speaker 1>then a whole Reddit thing that's like what sort of

1918
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>monster put a shack crpet? Gross? Now I'm just going

1919
01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>down the rabbit hole of like fur toilet lid cover

1920
01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:56.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, excuse me. Fur Paul Paul, currently on sale

1921
01:29:56.720 --> 01:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Walmart once again, because this is a dystopian version of America.

1922
01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>For six dollars and fifty three cents, you could buy

1923
01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:08.479
<v Speaker 1>a toilet seat cover that warms the toilet seat and

1924
01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>looks like it's made of perhaps wool. Paul. Look at it,

1925
01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Look at it.

1926
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Look at it.

1927
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>The fact that it's seven dollars less than seven dollars,

1928
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's got like maybe a cat on it. There's

1929
01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:25.399
<v Speaker 1>a picture of a cat. Burn it down, burn it,

1930
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>just burn it down. Oh my god, Oh my god.

1931
01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:30.399
<v Speaker 1>There's a checkerboard, one with a dog's keboard, one with

1932
01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a dog.

1933
01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Frank is running through his office. He's sounding

1934
01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I never thought i'd see the sun again. I'm alive,

1935
01:30:37.960 --> 01:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm alive, and Elliott points his gun right at Frank.

1936
01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>He actually gets the barrel in Frank's mouth, and he

1937
01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>says not for long, but Frank is too jazzed up

1938
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>to care. He embraces Elliott, and Elliott is so freaked

1939
01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>out by Frank's turn around that he lets Frank take

1940
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the gun and drop it on the floor. Another shot

1941
01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>fires off.

1942
01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is the one that sounds like Looney Tunes.

1943
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Frank grabs Elliott and spins him around while telling him

1944
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:01.600
<v Speaker 2>that he's promoting him to VP of Programming at double

1945
01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:03.920
<v Speaker 2>his former salary. It's the same shot of Kate and

1946
01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Leo and when they're dancing in Titanic. Elliott asks what

1947
01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>happened to Frank, and Frank says that the Jews taught

1948
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>him a great word, schmuck. I was a schmuck, but

1949
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna be one any longer. And Frank swings

1950
01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Elliott into the elevator. He grabs the shotgun and he says,

1951
01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have some fun.

1952
01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, right, this is right. Buckle up, kids, because

1953
01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:28.039
<v Speaker 1>there's some stuff. If you haven't seen this movie in

1954
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a while, you probably have forgotten this plotline like I did.

1955
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Does not age well. Yes, trigger warning in all senses.

1956
01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Cut to the final act in Scrooge in Charles Dickens

1957
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Immortal Classic Scrooge. I really wish we'd cut to the

1958
01:31:42.960 --> 01:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Great Barrier.

1959
01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Reef for a moment, but oh well would I would

1960
01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:47.319
<v Speaker 2>just love to know why?

1961
01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:48.279
<v Speaker 3>What? What? Like?

1962
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Like is it a shark wearing a the Santa hat

1963
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:54.439
<v Speaker 1>was happening? So we cut to the final act of Scrooge.

1964
01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Ebenezer is tossing a coin to a lad on the street.

1965
01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>The camera follows the coin as it falls, but instead

1966
01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:04.159
<v Speaker 1>of the actor playing the lad catching it, Frank runs

1967
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>onto the set and grabs it before the actor can.

1968
01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>We cut to the control booth, where everyone is in

1969
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>shock that Frank has disrupted the show. What the fuck

1970
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:14.079
<v Speaker 1>is happening? This is live everyone, of course, except for Bryce,

1971
01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:18.399
<v Speaker 1>who is thrilled at Frank's impending downfall. He's like, this

1972
01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is great. Elliott enters the control booth with his shotgun

1973
01:32:24.399 --> 01:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and he takes the crew hostage. So they'll keep the

1974
01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:31.159
<v Speaker 1>camera on Frank and not cut to commercial. I'll just

1975
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:34.319
<v Speaker 1>stop here. None of this is necessary. Yeah, you already

1976
01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>have Bryce going this is great. So if you needed,

1977
01:32:37.640 --> 01:32:40.359
<v Speaker 1>like dramaturgically a reason for them to not just cut

1978
01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to commercial or not just stop the show, you can

1979
01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:47.039
<v Speaker 1>have Bryce being like, uh no, no, no, keep the

1980
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>camera on him while he's having his big, very public meltdown.

1981
01:32:51.079 --> 01:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>This is this is great for my career. Like, you

1982
01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:57.399
<v Speaker 1>absolutely do not need what is about to happen, which

1983
01:32:57.439 --> 01:32:59.479
<v Speaker 1>is bobcat Goldthwaye, who up until this was such a

1984
01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>sweet character in the movie, honestly, and I was even

1985
01:33:02.039 --> 01:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>okay with him, like menacing Frank around the office with

1986
01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:08.399
<v Speaker 1>his chocoy. He now points a gun at people and

1987
01:33:08.439 --> 01:33:10.399
<v Speaker 1>then they'll keep cutting back to him and he'll be like,

1988
01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:11.119
<v Speaker 1>He'll be.

1989
01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Like, party, I have fun.

1990
01:33:12.920 --> 01:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>We told you to have fun. And you'll see people

1991
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:18.199
<v Speaker 1>crying in the in the country Hill. Amy Hill is

1992
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:20.199
<v Speaker 1>an actor in the scene she's she's an extra in

1993
01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:22.039
<v Speaker 1>this movie, and there's a moment where they cut to

1994
01:33:22.119 --> 01:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Amy Hill and she's weeping and pretending to dance because

1995
01:33:25.960 --> 01:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>she's being told to dance by a man holding a shotgun.

1996
01:33:29.159 --> 01:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what part of this do you think

1997
01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>is funny? Yeah, it's not funny. It's not even just

1998
01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>like the world is aged poorly kind of way, which

1999
01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:39.199
<v Speaker 1>of course it has, but it's I don't even think

2000
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:40.359
<v Speaker 1>this was funny In nineteen.

2001
01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Eighty eight, Yeah, I don't. I'm like, because I was

2002
01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what the what the gag was

2003
01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:45.439
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be, and I was like, is it just

2004
01:33:45.479 --> 01:33:48.359
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be so ludicrous.

2005
01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Because it's Bob cackles that squird voice that he does,

2006
01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and he's like four feet eight tall tall.

2007
01:33:53.439 --> 01:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no one can think Bobcat Goldthwait is actually scary

2008
01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>or anything. But and look, I think it's obviously made

2009
01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:02.760
<v Speaker 2>worse by what has happened in the forty years since

2010
01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:03.119
<v Speaker 2>this movie.

2011
01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>But if they hadn't had her crying and like, yeah,

2012
01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>being genuinely frightened, that's that's the unforced error.

2013
01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:11.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. The reactions of the people around him in

2014
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:16.399
<v Speaker 2>the booth are taking it seriously as opposed to being like, ugh, fine.

2015
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>We keep the camera on him. Yeah, it does not

2016
01:34:18.399 --> 01:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>age well. It is so unappealing. It is so not funny.

2017
01:34:22.399 --> 01:34:24.079
<v Speaker 1>I wish they'd cut all of this out of the movie.

2018
01:34:24.319 --> 01:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>You can also cut all of Elliott's other stuff out.

2019
01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I hate to say it, but like it is like

2020
01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:32.199
<v Speaker 1>old timey, like hobo imagery with Elliott. Throughout the rest

2021
01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of the movie, they keep cutting to him and he's

2022
01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>like drinking a bottle of scotch out of a bag

2023
01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>on a street corner and he's got like fingerless gloves

2024
01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:41.039
<v Speaker 1>on all of a sudden, and you're like he got

2025
01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>fired six hours ago. Yeah, Like why is why is

2026
01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:48.079
<v Speaker 1>this happening? Like why is this escalating so quickly?

2027
01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:50.039
<v Speaker 2>And I would have loved it if they had taken

2028
01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the time given to him and given it to Grace

2029
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:56.720
<v Speaker 2>instead and built up that side of the story so

2030
01:34:57.399 --> 01:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>we can have a better like not necessarily a better

2031
01:34:59.720 --> 01:35:02.359
<v Speaker 2>like happier relationship, but like a stronger feel of the

2032
01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:05.439
<v Speaker 2>relationship between Grace and Frank, like yeah, you know, like

2033
01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:08.640
<v Speaker 2>or see him grow closer to Calvin. All of this

2034
01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>stuff could have been layered in. Maybe she's the one

2035
01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>who comes in when he gets back and is not

2036
01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:16.279
<v Speaker 2>not with a gun with the grip, but he's gonna

2037
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:19.039
<v Speaker 2>quit and and and she's yet like she's had it

2038
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:21.640
<v Speaker 2>with him, Like yeah, for whatever something happened, she's she's

2039
01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:26.359
<v Speaker 2>done and like and then he gets to sweep her

2040
01:35:26.439 --> 01:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>along with it. Yeah, that makes so much more sense

2041
01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>and likes so much more affecting, I think. So Frank

2042
01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:35.039
<v Speaker 2>looks at the camera and he starts out by saying

2043
01:35:35.079 --> 01:35:37.359
<v Speaker 2>that he's a rat bastard for making all these people

2044
01:35:37.439 --> 01:35:40.079
<v Speaker 2>work on Christmas Eve instead of letting them spend time

2045
01:35:40.159 --> 01:35:42.319
<v Speaker 2>with their loved ones. I just want to say, for

2046
01:35:42.399 --> 01:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>the reck, I get I get it, I get it,

2047
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:47.760
<v Speaker 2>but like, literally, like every job I've ever had has

2048
01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>has made me work on Christmas Eve.

2049
01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Those people.

2050
01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Every hotel I worked at, every restaurant I worked at,

2051
01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:59.479
<v Speaker 2>they were all open on Christmas Eve. Every every play

2052
01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:02.760
<v Speaker 2>on broad it has a Christmas Eve performance. Like it's

2053
01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>fine but anyway, he pulls the photo that James gave

2054
01:36:07.319 --> 01:36:09.640
<v Speaker 2>him and tells the audience at home that he has

2055
01:36:10.119 --> 01:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the best brother in the world. And we see James

2056
01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:15.119
<v Speaker 2>and his friend watching on TV and they're touched by

2057
01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Frank's speech, and Frank then confesses to James that he

2058
01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:21.079
<v Speaker 2>gave him a towel, not a VCR. Grace did that.

2059
01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:23.600
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't me, But I'm sorry for the way that

2060
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I've treated you. You were right about everything except that

2061
01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the boat that took them to Gilligan's Island was the

2062
01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:33.079
<v Speaker 2>s S Minnow And James and his friends are shocked.

2063
01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:35.159
<v Speaker 2>How did he know? How did he know that? Ye

2064
01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:38.640
<v Speaker 2>know that? Then this really weird moment happens where Frank

2065
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:42.680
<v Speaker 2>says Hello Wendy, and we get this mode of Wendy

2066
01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Mallet going oh, smiling, smiling, and then just cuts away

2067
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what, why does she care that he

2068
01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:51.279
<v Speaker 2>said Hello Wendy because the.

2069
01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Guy who wrote the movie is her husband. Again, like

2070
01:36:53.479 --> 01:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to give her a moment here.

2071
01:36:55.960 --> 01:36:59.520
<v Speaker 2>But dramaturgically, I have no idea like she should she'd

2072
01:36:59.560 --> 01:37:03.600
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh yeah, or like I mean, potentially she's

2073
01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:06.479
<v Speaker 2>she's the one in that scene earlier who's like harsher

2074
01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:09.319
<v Speaker 2>on him right, like it's not that bad. But she's like, oh,

2075
01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:10.960
<v Speaker 2>he gave you a shower curtain last year, which is

2076
01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:12.760
<v Speaker 2>fair fair criticism.

2077
01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And like, I hope my family likes their fuzzy toilet

2078
01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:18.039
<v Speaker 1>sea covers they're all getting for Christmas this year.

2079
01:37:18.279 --> 01:37:19.359
<v Speaker 2>What a great stocking stuff.

2080
01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>The IBS logo getting that for all of my nephews,

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<v Speaker 1>all of my colleagues enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, hello, Wendy, I'm also sorry that I'd never

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01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:34.039
<v Speaker 2>gotten a chance to spend time with you. You seem

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01:37:34.119 --> 01:37:35.760
<v Speaker 2>lovely or something something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how good Wendy Malick is, though oh yeah,

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01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:40.800
<v Speaker 1>because you feel it. I actually think Bill Murray is

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<v Speaker 1>great in this moment too. I think this, to me

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01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:45.439
<v Speaker 1>is the part of the movie where Bill Murray is

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01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a very very effective actor.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my thing. Actually, having gone through this movie with

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01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you as much as we have at this point, I

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<v Speaker 2>think if I watched it a couple more times, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would get to the point you're at with it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think the story is better and more arced

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<v Speaker 2>than I gave it credit for upon my viewing of it,

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01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>because you've pointed out things that I missed. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think if I watched it again, I would actually find

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01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:13.239
<v Speaker 2>this scene much more affecting than I did when I

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<v Speaker 2>watched it, because when I watched it, I was at

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<v Speaker 2>the point of like, all right, just come on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like getting teary eyed watching I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not. We cut back to the control room Boo.

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<v Speaker 1>Preston calls and demands to speak to the idiot who

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<v Speaker 1>allowed Frank to hijack the show. Elliott answers the call

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01:38:31.439 --> 01:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and says Bryce is responsible, but he can't come to

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<v Speaker 1>the phone right now because he's tied up, and the

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<v Speaker 1>camera pans over to Bryce, who was literally tied to

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<v Speaker 1>a chair with a holiday wreath around his neck. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the one good part of this whole scene, m h.

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott goes on to tell Preston that Bryce called him

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01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a butt head and also confess to having romantic feelings

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<v Speaker 1>towards Preston, which is so unnecessary. Yeah, like, what the

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01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:58.159
<v Speaker 1>fuck is this joke? And then Preston gets so angry

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01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that he kicks one of his cats in his apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Remove all this, all this, all this, I do like

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01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:07.279
<v Speaker 1>the joke of someone tied up and then they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>tied up. But you know what, we've seen it before.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to see it in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And I doubt that this was the case. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>weird that you've made the joke about the one actually

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01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>gay actor in the cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he the only gay actor?

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01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, the only I guess only actor I know of

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<v Speaker 2>in the cast. It's gad Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm like panning through the cast.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I bet Karen Allen's bisexual.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what what Michael J.

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<v Speaker 1>Pollard told you is. Back on set, Frank orders champagne

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01:39:34.760 --> 01:39:39.439
<v Speaker 1>for everyone. Buddy, it is eleven five on Christmas Eve?

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<v Speaker 1>What shop is open? He's like, everyone relaxed, it's a party,

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01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and they y'all just start to kind of vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>On the set.

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<v Speaker 1>He kisses one of the solid gold dancers because she's

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<v Speaker 1>standing under a missletoe. And that's just the rules, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the laws, the federal law. Federal law declares, I must

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<v Speaker 1>kiss this woman. And to be clear, the solid gold

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01:39:59.319 --> 01:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>dancer is into it. She grabs it, She grabs Frank's tie,

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01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>She pulls him to her and like gives him a

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<v Speaker 1>good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yep. Look, if you're a solid gold dancer and

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<v Speaker 2>a TV executive starts doing that, and he's not he's

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<v Speaker 2>not being gross, to be clear, he's being actually kind

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01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:16.640
<v Speaker 2>of sweet. Go for it, see what you can get

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01:40:16.720 --> 01:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>so we can get out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>This according to this movie, this guy is irresistible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Karen Allen waited for him for fifteen years for.

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01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>That irresistible Bill Murray Dick.

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<v Speaker 2>No one else would do the German shepherd with her.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when he gets into a shepherd's outfit and he

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01:40:33.319 --> 01:40:35.279
<v Speaker 2>talks like he talks in a German accent, and he

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01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:36.279
<v Speaker 2>crooks her with a crook.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the shepherd's crook. The shepherd st no what no

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<v Speaker 1>one else would do? The docks and bigger what's that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's when you go down to the docks.

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<v Speaker 2>And fuck, no one else would do the hot dog

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01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:49.840
<v Speaker 2>with her?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the hot dog? What's that?

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01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Poll? That's that's when that's when you take hot dog fingers.

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01:40:54.880 --> 01:40:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Remember from everywhere to all it was hot dog fingers

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<v Speaker 2>and you just do what comes naturally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't have to if we have to describe it.

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<v Speaker 1>You you're doing not understand, you're doing hot fingers wrong.

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01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:06.199
<v Speaker 1>No one else is going to do the toy poodle

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<v Speaker 1>with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh of course, but what is the toy poodle again?

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<v Speaker 1>The toy poodle is when you the toy poodles when

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01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:20.359
<v Speaker 1>you dress up like Sherry from Lamb Chop and prance

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<v Speaker 1>around the living room. Okay, So anyway, he kisses one

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01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of the solid Gold dancers and then he declares to

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<v Speaker 1>the world, but that kiss was good, but it wasn't

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01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>great Burns Gold Dancer. She's standing right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone isn't on the Terry gar and Goldie Hawn track.

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<v Speaker 2>Son of a Bitch, Jennifer Lopez.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't mean it as a burn, but it does

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01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>come across as a burn. He says, it really was

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<v Speaker 1>only one great kiss in my life, only one great

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<v Speaker 1>and that was Claire. And he tells Claire that he

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01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:53.159
<v Speaker 1>still loves her and he wants her back. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he's hoping that they could continue their work through the

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01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Kama Sutra that they started years ago. He starts to

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<v Speaker 1>describe a move where they twine around each other like snakes,

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01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and everyone's.

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01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, wooooooo, we see Claire and all the folks at

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01:42:07.840 --> 01:42:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Operation Rescue watching on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero chance that would happen, Yeah, zero chance. The people

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<v Speaker 1>at this shelter are like, can we watch Scrooge? Also,

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01:42:17.800 --> 01:42:20.119
<v Speaker 1>just imagine your ex boyfriend's whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Your ex boyfriend is on TV, and this is when

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01:42:23.800 --> 01:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>TV was big, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Like literally, like, you know, this is the super Bowl.

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01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Two hundred million people are watching your boyfriend describe sex

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01:42:31.319 --> 01:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>acts that you did with him fifteen years ago when

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01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:37.520
<v Speaker 2>you were young in limber. You can't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do the Doberman pincher anymore, which is well,

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01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:43.720
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of pinching, and you bruise like a peach.

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<v Speaker 2>You bruise like a peach now, So everyone else applauds.

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<v Speaker 2>When Frank declares his love for her and Claire rushes outside.

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01:42:53.279 --> 01:42:56.079
<v Speaker 2>She takes the first taxi she can find, and who's

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<v Speaker 2>driving it but the ghost of Christmas Past. And she

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01:42:59.239 --> 01:43:02.039
<v Speaker 2>asks if you can to the IBC building in three minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and he replies, which flaw excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank leads the casting crew of Scrooge in a singalong

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01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>of Deck the Halls and then tells the audience at home,

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01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:14.439
<v Speaker 1>now this is this is kind of a crazy moment

2205
01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:17.479
<v Speaker 1>in this movie. He starts to like give a speech

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01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:20.119
<v Speaker 1>to the audience at home. Bill Murray gets really worked

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01:43:20.199 --> 01:43:22.359
<v Speaker 1>up while while giving this speech. He gets he gets

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01:43:22.479 --> 01:43:26.479
<v Speaker 1>really choked up. His voice cracks, and I fully believe him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's really good. He tells the audience at

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01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:31.840
<v Speaker 1>home to embrace the spirit of Christmas and to be

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01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the people they always hoped they would be, because the

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01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Christmas spirit is a miracle, and it's a miracle that

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<v Speaker 1>you can have every single day. In fact, you gotta

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01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:43.439
<v Speaker 1>be greedy for it, you gotta want it. And he

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01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:46.439
<v Speaker 1>proclaims that not only does he truly believe in Christmas now,

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01:43:46.520 --> 01:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>but he's ready for it. He's finally ready for it.

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01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:52.720
<v Speaker 1>And he wishes everyone at home a merry Christmas. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Calvin, like who's holding on to Alfrey Woodard breaks

2219
01:43:56.439 --> 01:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>free and walks up to him and kind of like

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01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>tugs at his pants, and he goes, what's little man?

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01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:05.399
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, God, bless us everyone, if you're not

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01:44:05.640 --> 01:44:09.199
<v Speaker 1>a little teary eyed, that sweet, sweet little kid, they

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01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:13.079
<v Speaker 1>could not have cast a cuter child. Horrible this kit

2224
01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and like, I'm gonna cry just thinking about it, and

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01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>everyone is stunned. Grace is overcome with joy and she

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01:44:22.199 --> 01:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>scoops Calvin up in her arms and she's so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Claire makes it to the set and Frank picks her

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01:44:27.479 --> 01:44:29.560
<v Speaker 2>up and drags her in front of the camera and says,

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01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the whole world, Claire, Claire, the whole world, and he

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<v Speaker 2>kisses her and says and they lived happily ever after,

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01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and Claire smiles and kisses him back, and then Erica

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01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:42.720
<v Speaker 2>writes here and she's not wrong. The movie remembers that

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01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:44.560
<v Speaker 2>it has Alfre Woodard in it, and she starts to

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01:44:44.560 --> 01:44:46.159
<v Speaker 2>sing along and put a little Love in your Heart

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01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:48.359
<v Speaker 2>so good, which was a we heard it on a

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<v Speaker 2>radio in an earlier.

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01:44:49.359 --> 01:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Scene and in her apartment, yeah earlier.

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01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Frank looks up. He sees all three ghosts and

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01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:57.760
<v Speaker 2>lou plus the ghost of herman, singing and clapping along

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<v Speaker 2>with everyone else, and we see everyone in the trol

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01:45:00.399 --> 01:45:03.920
<v Speaker 2>booth and Grace's family and the folks Operation Rescue and

2242
01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Preston and his wife all sing along to the song.

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01:45:06.399 --> 01:45:08.560
<v Speaker 2>My favorite was the cut to John Houseman who's not

2244
01:45:08.640 --> 01:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>clapping on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's like, I've never heard this before.

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01:45:12.359 --> 01:45:12.880
<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:16.800
<v Speaker 1>What's happening? So everyone is singing along? And then I

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01:45:16.880 --> 01:45:19.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think I said this earlier. Actually, when you asked

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01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:21.479
<v Speaker 1>me when I first saw this film, I think I

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01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:24.039
<v Speaker 1>said I saw it young. Yeah, I saw this movie

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01:45:24.199 --> 01:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>in the theater. Oh, like, I have a very vivid

2252
01:45:28.399 --> 01:45:30.720
<v Speaker 1>memory of seeing this movie in the theater with my

2253
01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:33.039
<v Speaker 1>parents and my brother because of what is about to

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01:45:33.079 --> 01:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>happen next. Gotcha Bill Murray, not Frank Cross, Bill Murray.

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<v Speaker 2>It's totally Bill Murray. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Walks over to the camera and breaks the fourth wall

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01:45:43.479 --> 01:45:46.439
<v Speaker 1>and tells the audience in the movie theater sing along

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01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>as well. He's like, put a little love in your heart.

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01:45:50.039 --> 01:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Come on, everybody's saying. And then he's like, how about

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01:45:52.079 --> 01:45:54.199
<v Speaker 1>just this side of the theater And then he points

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01:45:54.239 --> 01:45:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to the left side and he goes, okay, no, no, no, no,

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01:45:56.039 --> 01:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that was terrible. Now this side of the theater and

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01:45:57.840 --> 01:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the right side, and he goes, okay, the men and

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01:46:01.079 --> 01:46:04.199
<v Speaker 1>then anticipating, which is exactly what happened in my theater,

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01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that none of the guys wanted to sing and the

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01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>men are like, he goes, no, no, no, the real men.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened I remember this in the theater is

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01:46:12.239 --> 01:46:15.119
<v Speaker 1>people in my audience started singing, like the men actually

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01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>started singing a lot and clapping and put a little

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01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:20.399
<v Speaker 1>love in your heart. And then he goes the women

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01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:22.439
<v Speaker 1>and he makes the same joke again, no, no, the

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01:46:22.560 --> 01:46:25.479
<v Speaker 1>real women. And honestly, he didn't have to because the

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01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:28.159
<v Speaker 1>women in my audience were in and my mom and

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01:46:28.239 --> 01:46:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I were.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, it's so funny that like, because to be clear,

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01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I knew this is not what was happening, but because

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01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:40.159
<v Speaker 2>of the world today, when he said no, the real men,

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01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I went, I like recoiled. No, that sucks, but it's

2279
01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:44.720
<v Speaker 2>not his fault.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a perfect gag because I'm telling you it

2281
01:46:48.520 --> 01:46:50.720
<v Speaker 1>happened in my theater where he goes, okay, just the

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01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:54.800
<v Speaker 1>men and no one sang, and then when he was

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01:46:54.840 --> 01:46:57.119
<v Speaker 1>like the real men, and then then yeah, some of

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01:46:57.199 --> 01:47:00.199
<v Speaker 1>the men were like, okay, we'll sing and I and and.

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01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I was like I literally had the thought of like, well,

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01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:05.720
<v Speaker 2>what's I don't get the joke because those words have

2287
01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:10.159
<v Speaker 2>been so weaponized, weaponized again against like the trans communter.

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01:47:10.359 --> 01:47:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows what I'm talking about but like, that's such

2289
01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:13.760
<v Speaker 2>a great story to hear.

2290
01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>It's so it was. I have this strong memory, and

2291
01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:19.159
<v Speaker 1>again I do remember all the women in my he

2292
01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:21.640
<v Speaker 1>was like no, no, the real women, and all the

2293
01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:26.439
<v Speaker 1>women were like yeah. So Bill Murray is doing this

2294
01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>sing along with the people watching this movie in real

2295
01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>time in the movie theaters. And then we cut to

2296
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>James and his friends right back to that, to that

2297
01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:37.119
<v Speaker 1>that Christmas Eve and John Murray, remember Bill Murray's real

2298
01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>life little brother, turns to the camera and says, my

2299
01:47:40.159 --> 01:47:43.039
<v Speaker 1>brother the King of Christmas. End of movie.

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01:47:43.479 --> 01:47:44.239
<v Speaker 2>End of movie.

2301
01:47:44.359 --> 01:47:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I love this ending. Yeah, it is so weird. If

2302
01:47:47.199 --> 01:47:49.399
<v Speaker 1>you are listening to this and you have that experience,

2303
01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:51.439
<v Speaker 1>I would love to know what happened in your theater.

2304
01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah when you watch this movie, like, do you remember

2305
01:47:53.960 --> 01:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>people singing along or people already like shuffling for their

2306
01:47:57.039 --> 01:47:57.720
<v Speaker 1>for their keys.

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01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:02.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, everyone, so that is Scrooge. Stick around after

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01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:04.600
<v Speaker 2>a couple of messages and we will give you our

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01:48:04.720 --> 01:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>random observations and final rankings, and we're back Erica. Do

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01:48:17.319 --> 01:48:22.680
<v Speaker 2>you have any other little little little little bits that

2311
01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>we're still on the same We're still in the same turkey. Well,

2312
01:48:30.039 --> 01:48:32.479
<v Speaker 2>it didn't last very long. Yeah, yeah, what do you

2313
01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>got for me?

2314
01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>At Frank's Jim at his office, the wallpaper just has

2315
01:48:37.439 --> 01:48:40.239
<v Speaker 1>like a big sign and it says cross.

2316
01:48:40.079 --> 01:48:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Like it's like it's like a like a dictionary definition, yes,

2317
01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and it.

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01:48:43.640 --> 01:48:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Says cross a thing. They nail people too.

2319
01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I saw that.

2320
01:48:48.439 --> 01:48:51.079
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the hell is that? That's his

2321
01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>inspirational thing that he looks at while he's working out.

2322
01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:57.439
<v Speaker 2>I guess there's there is a moment he skipped over

2323
01:48:57.520 --> 01:49:01.039
<v Speaker 2>that definitely does not age well in the in the past,

2324
01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:04.960
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about Chinese food at the party. Yeah, he says, Oh,

2325
01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:06.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't don't eat Chinese food. They cut up alley

2326
01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:08.760
<v Speaker 2>cats and put it in chop suey and then they

2327
01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:12.359
<v Speaker 2>double down because when he meets Karen, she's like, I

2328
01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:13.560
<v Speaker 2>don't want to go to the party. Then she's like,

2329
01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:15.000
<v Speaker 2>but do you want to go get some Chinese food?

2330
01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:16.279
<v Speaker 2>And he's like okay, And they get in the cab

2331
01:49:16.319 --> 01:49:17.640
<v Speaker 2>and they drive off and you hear rare.

2332
01:49:18.720 --> 01:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, damn it, gross, damn it.

2333
01:49:21.840 --> 01:49:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2334
01:49:22.119 --> 01:49:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Another line I Love Frank is with Ghost of Christmas

2335
01:49:25.239 --> 01:49:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Present with Carol Caine and he threatens to pull her

2336
01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:30.319
<v Speaker 1>wings off because she's so mad at her. He's like,

2337
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:31.680
<v Speaker 1>if you do that one more time, I'll pull your

2338
01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:34.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking wings off, and she just smiles and goes, oh, Frank,

2339
01:49:35.079 --> 01:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you know I like the rough stuff. Wow, you'll love it.

2340
01:49:39.399 --> 01:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Pretty good, Carol Cane. It's a hard, des hard voice

2341
01:49:42.319 --> 01:49:44.800
<v Speaker 2>to do. All that can be Schmidt watching.

2342
01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:47.199
<v Speaker 1>All that ghost of Christmas present having.

2343
01:49:47.159 --> 01:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I only have one more. It's just the fashion

2344
01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:53.920
<v Speaker 2>in this movie is overall pretty good. I think he's

2345
01:49:53.960 --> 01:49:56.319
<v Speaker 2>getting a lot of outerwear because every a lot of

2346
01:49:56.359 --> 01:49:59.119
<v Speaker 2>people are outside. Poor Alfred Woodard is having to deal

2347
01:49:59.199 --> 01:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>with a couple of outfits.

2348
01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:02.000
<v Speaker 1>She's not like power suits on yeah.

2349
01:50:02.319 --> 01:50:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very long coats. Yeah, but you know, good for her.

2350
01:50:05.760 --> 01:50:09.279
<v Speaker 2>She's she's making it work overall. Wendy Malik in the

2351
01:50:09.399 --> 01:50:12.520
<v Speaker 2>scene the first scene where she's celebrating Christmas Eve, Yeah,

2352
01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:14.600
<v Speaker 2>the red shirt red. It's like a red shirt with

2353
01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:16.600
<v Speaker 2>white polka dots. But it's eighties. It's fine, like it's

2354
01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:20.159
<v Speaker 2>it's not actually the little shoulder pad action she has

2355
01:50:20.239 --> 01:50:26.520
<v Speaker 2>on her ears these two large silver like bear silhouette

2356
01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:30.479
<v Speaker 2>earrings and then at the at the top button of

2357
01:50:30.600 --> 01:50:35.359
<v Speaker 2>her shirt it's clasped by a large silver horse brooch.

2358
01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you're thinking, Paul, I like it.

2359
01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I knew you were gonna like it.

2360
01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:40.119
<v Speaker 4>I do.

2361
01:50:40.239 --> 01:50:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I like it.

2362
01:50:41.039 --> 01:50:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Here's because here's the story that they're telling us with

2363
01:50:43.319 --> 01:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Wendy and James without telling us anything, because he gets

2364
01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>into their house and it's under renovation. These two are

2365
01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:51.039
<v Speaker 1>your artsy couples. I think she's supposed to be like

2366
01:50:51.079 --> 01:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>an artist.

2367
01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh totally.

2368
01:50:52.359 --> 01:50:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

2369
01:50:52.640 --> 01:50:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I would like my full credit for managing to say

2370
01:50:55.119 --> 01:50:59.319
<v Speaker 2>b R O c HS brooch and not brooches gratulation.

2371
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I know what you're thinking, and it is. It is weird,

2372
01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:07.079
<v Speaker 1>but I like it in this very nineteen eighties downtown

2373
01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:09.000
<v Speaker 1>artsy dealer kind of way.

2374
01:51:09.159 --> 01:51:11.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't hate it. I just couldn't let it go

2375
01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:12.520
<v Speaker 2>past unremarked.

2376
01:51:12.960 --> 01:51:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Fair no, no, no, fair. It's and again it's also

2377
01:51:15.920 --> 01:51:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Wendy Mallick, who used to be a model and really

2378
01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>can't carry anything off.

2379
01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2380
01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I only have one more two and it's a small

2381
01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:27.359
<v Speaker 1>thing that I only noticed this time, and I'd never

2382
01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:30.920
<v Speaker 1>seen it before. When they cut to Operation Rescue at

2383
01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the end of the movie, after he's like declares his

2384
01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:37.760
<v Speaker 1>love for Claire right and everyone's watching the TV, the

2385
01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>box that's holding up the TV is a top of

2386
01:51:41.720 --> 01:51:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the line pioneer VCR box, the same one that James

2387
01:51:45.479 --> 01:51:50.720
<v Speaker 1>gets earlier in the movie, which posits that Grace went

2388
01:51:51.159 --> 01:51:56.159
<v Speaker 1>fully rogue and sent every single person Frank knows the

2389
01:51:56.239 --> 01:51:56.960
<v Speaker 1>top of the line.

2390
01:51:56.880 --> 01:51:59.119
<v Speaker 2>VC to work list.

2391
01:51:59.239 --> 01:52:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I think, because honestly, I was like, this brings up

2392
01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:03.720
<v Speaker 1>more questions and answers. Is it a coincidence? Is it

2393
01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:06.199
<v Speaker 1>just the box and there's no VCR? Was this a

2394
01:52:06.279 --> 01:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>gift from Frank? Was this a gift from Grace?

2395
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

2396
01:52:09.920 --> 01:52:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Why is this there? It's such an odd Maybe.

2397
01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Colonel Tom Parker donated his to the shelter.

2398
01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like, Elvis is just gonna shoot at it anyway,

2399
01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:21.760
<v Speaker 1>may as well give it to the shelter.

2400
01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:22.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2401
01:52:22.119 --> 01:52:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Erica, how are we gonna rank? How are we

2402
01:52:24.920 --> 01:52:26.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna rank scrooged?

2403
01:52:26.920 --> 01:52:31.119
<v Speaker 1>One to ten masterpieces that are derivative as fuck?

2404
01:52:31.479 --> 01:52:33.800
<v Speaker 2>One to ten masterpieces that make you go, I think

2405
01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I know this story.

2406
01:52:34.720 --> 01:52:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is not a master master implies first of

2407
01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it.

2408
01:52:38.279 --> 01:52:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Did, yeah, number yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a peak. Yeah.

2409
01:52:42.680 --> 01:52:45.159
<v Speaker 1>You can't call yourself a masterpiece if you are a

2410
01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:46.960
<v Speaker 1>copy of another person's work.

2411
01:52:47.319 --> 01:52:49.199
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have made very good copies of

2412
01:52:49.279 --> 01:52:52.039
<v Speaker 2>the Mona Lisa, but theirs aren't masterpieces. Yeah, it's the

2413
01:52:52.119 --> 01:52:53.119
<v Speaker 2>original Mona Lisa.

2414
01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:55.680
<v Speaker 1>The original Dogs playing Poker is the only one that

2415
01:52:55.720 --> 01:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>could call itself a masterpiece. Of the rest of you

2416
01:52:57.720 --> 01:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>are garbage.

2417
01:52:58.399 --> 01:53:01.479
<v Speaker 2>That's right. The whole nine was a masterpiece, but the

2418
01:53:01.520 --> 01:53:02.920
<v Speaker 2>whole ten yards was derivative.

2419
01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:05.960
<v Speaker 1>It was derivative. That's not a masterpiece, to be clear.

2420
01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:10.199
<v Speaker 2>How about one to ten vodka.

2421
01:53:09.920 --> 01:53:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Tabs the most delicious drinks.

2422
01:53:12.159 --> 01:53:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Delicious drink a second only to a Tea Maria and

2423
01:53:15.199 --> 01:53:17.399
<v Speaker 2>orange slice, third only to.

2424
01:53:17.479 --> 01:53:21.520
<v Speaker 1>A vodka tab that actually does have chernobyl tainted that

2425
01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:23.039
<v Speaker 1>makes you hallucinate wildly.

2426
01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:26.239
<v Speaker 2>The chernobyl tainted stuff makes me reminds me of like

2427
01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the lithium from Back to the Future. Uh huh where

2428
01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:31.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like the eighties were a whole different world, man.

2429
01:53:31.680 --> 01:53:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Wild What was nuclear holocaust on everyone's mind? Like that

2430
01:53:37.159 --> 01:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>must have been terrible. One to ten furry toilet covers.

2431
01:53:42.319 --> 01:53:46.479
<v Speaker 1>One to ten absorbent toilet covers, furry fucking toilet covers,

2432
01:53:46.720 --> 01:53:51.600
<v Speaker 1>shag carpeting seventies nightmare toilet covers. I would love to

2433
01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:53.880
<v Speaker 1>step into a situation right now where I have to

2434
01:53:53.960 --> 01:53:56.600
<v Speaker 1>pee in in someone's house and they have one, and

2435
01:53:56.720 --> 01:53:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, im paying in your sink. I'm just paying

2436
01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in your there's That's that's the only thing I can think.

2437
01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:03.319
<v Speaker 2>To do, right. I do not think that's what you

2438
01:54:03.319 --> 01:54:07.279
<v Speaker 2>would do. You would leave the house. I can trust

2439
01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:08.720
<v Speaker 2>nothing in this house.

2440
01:54:08.760 --> 01:54:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I would call a swat team first, and then I

2441
01:54:10.960 --> 01:54:14.439
<v Speaker 1>would leave that house. Yeah, honestly, truly, I would disinfect

2442
01:54:14.520 --> 01:54:17.640
<v Speaker 1>my entire body. Was like, I touched things? What did

2443
01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I touch in that house? If this is their standard

2444
01:54:20.880 --> 01:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>of cleanliness.

2445
01:54:22.319 --> 01:54:26.880
<v Speaker 2>To ten sex acts named for dog breathes, this one

2446
01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:28.159
<v Speaker 2>should be one.

2447
01:54:28.239 --> 01:54:30.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, like a multi pooh?

2448
01:54:30.840 --> 01:54:31.720
<v Speaker 2>What is a multipoo?

2449
01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:33.720
<v Speaker 1>This is when you take multiple poos on someone?

2450
01:54:33.880 --> 01:54:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's it's it's an advanced one. Yeah yeah, yeah,

2451
01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:40.920
<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah yeah. She couldn't find anyone else to do

2452
01:54:41.039 --> 01:54:41.880
<v Speaker 2>the lassie with her.

2453
01:54:42.039 --> 01:54:42.760
<v Speaker 1>What's a lassie?

2454
01:54:42.920 --> 01:54:44.479
<v Speaker 2>A lassie's when one of you, one of you has

2455
01:54:44.560 --> 01:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to jump down a well, the other one gets to

2456
01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:47.640
<v Speaker 2>do whatever they want before they hoist you up.

2457
01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:53.199
<v Speaker 1>She couldn't find anyone else to do the bull mastiff

2458
01:54:53.239 --> 01:54:53.439
<v Speaker 1>with her?

2459
01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, what's a bull mastiff?

2460
01:54:54.920 --> 01:54:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Just giant Schlong just huge, just a human something enormous.

2461
01:54:59.800 --> 01:55:03.920
<v Speaker 2>P yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. You know what she loves.

2462
01:55:03.920 --> 01:55:04.800
<v Speaker 2>She loved the great Dane.

2463
01:55:05.039 --> 01:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, what's a great day.

2464
01:55:06.079 --> 01:55:08.239
<v Speaker 2>That's just when you ask Eric Dane to be your third.

2465
01:55:08.199 --> 01:55:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yep, yep. Or a Saint Bernard, what's that? That's

2466
01:55:12.119 --> 01:55:14.359
<v Speaker 1>when one of you dresses left like George Bernard.

2467
01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Show and you fucking a hallowed place. You fuck it

2468
01:55:19.560 --> 01:55:22.079
<v Speaker 2>in a religious religious institution?

2469
01:55:22.359 --> 01:55:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2470
01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this one, this one, this one, Okay, do

2471
01:55:27.640 --> 01:55:28.199
<v Speaker 2>you want to go first?

2472
01:55:28.239 --> 01:55:30.640
<v Speaker 1>You want me to go first, I'll go first. Since

2473
01:55:30.680 --> 01:55:35.039
<v Speaker 1>this was my doing, it does not age well, you guys.

2474
01:55:35.319 --> 01:55:37.439
<v Speaker 1>I love this movie and I will defend it. And

2475
01:55:37.479 --> 01:55:40.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even gonna give a palate cleanser, although that

2476
01:55:40.279 --> 01:55:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Disney Christmas Carol is fucking legit. Yeah here, I'm gonna

2477
01:55:43.359 --> 01:55:44.640
<v Speaker 1>do the bad first and then I'll do the good.

2478
01:55:45.159 --> 01:55:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Bad Bobcat goothways whole thing.

2479
01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2480
01:55:47.479 --> 01:55:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Bad.

2481
01:55:47.760 --> 01:55:50.399
<v Speaker 1>The movie has a mean spiritedness that's just part of

2482
01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:53.479
<v Speaker 1>like comedy from that era. I don't really know why.

2483
01:55:54.199 --> 01:55:56.159
<v Speaker 1>There's just a lot of anger. I think in the eighties,

2484
01:55:56.439 --> 01:55:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the stuff with the censor constantly getting hit I thought that,

2485
01:55:59.600 --> 01:56:03.159
<v Speaker 1>which was not that funny, like the return on investment

2486
01:56:03.319 --> 01:56:05.279
<v Speaker 1>isn't enough for it to be Like, well, then why

2487
01:56:05.359 --> 01:56:07.720
<v Speaker 1>is this even in there? Ycause she just keeps getting

2488
01:56:07.760 --> 01:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>like smacked in the head and like run over by something.

2489
01:56:10.279 --> 01:56:12.640
<v Speaker 1>And then at the end she she sits on Bryce's

2490
01:56:12.720 --> 01:56:14.680
<v Speaker 1>lap when he's tied up and can't like say no,

2491
01:56:14.920 --> 01:56:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and she starts making out with him during the end.

2492
01:56:17.319 --> 01:56:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all of that just is kind of You

2493
01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:22.359
<v Speaker 2>have someone that you wants to hate, why not have

2494
01:56:22.560 --> 01:56:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Bryce keep getting hit like, I mean not so badly

2495
01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:27.760
<v Speaker 2>that he can't keep directing, but every time you see him,

2496
01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:30.479
<v Speaker 2>he's he has like a new cast or a new bandagiant,

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01:56:30.520 --> 01:56:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, it's.

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01:56:31.199 --> 01:56:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Not this random person. There's like a acousticness to it

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01:56:34.479 --> 01:56:37.479
<v Speaker 1>that like maybe feels refreshing to you in a Christmas movie,

2500
01:56:37.479 --> 01:56:40.119
<v Speaker 1>because I think a lot of people maybe enjoy that

2501
01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:42.840
<v Speaker 1>part of it because Christmas movies are so triakily generally

2502
01:56:43.359 --> 01:56:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and like it's like this or bad Santa?

2503
01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Are your options?

2504
01:56:46.439 --> 01:56:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Are your options?

2505
01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:47.199
<v Speaker 3>For?

2506
01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Like, if you want a Christmas movie with like a

2507
01:56:48.880 --> 01:56:51.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking edge to it, It's fine, It's not like the

2508
01:56:51.720 --> 01:56:53.720
<v Speaker 1>worst I've ever seen, but there is like a meanness

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01:56:53.800 --> 01:56:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to it. Yeah, there's a lot of like eighty eighties

2510
01:56:57.079 --> 01:56:59.720
<v Speaker 1>jokes in here that don't that don't feel great, Like

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01:56:59.800 --> 01:57:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the the gay joke at the end, when he's like,

2512
01:57:02.119 --> 01:57:04.359
<v Speaker 1>he says he feels about you romantically, and then the

2513
01:57:04.439 --> 01:57:06.479
<v Speaker 1>other guy gets furious and it's like he's trying to

2514
01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:10.760
<v Speaker 1>humiliate Bryce by insinuating that an openly gay actor who's

2515
01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:14.399
<v Speaker 1>playing Grace would be attracted to Robert Mitcham. Hello, it's

2516
01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Robert fucking Mitcham. We're all attracted to him. Yeah, the

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01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Chinese food joke, yeah, doesn't age well, which, honestly, that

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01:57:22.760 --> 01:57:26.159
<v Speaker 1>would not even have remotely dinged my radar. I feel

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01:57:26.159 --> 01:57:29.079
<v Speaker 1>like it's only very in my thirties where I was like,

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01:57:29.239 --> 01:57:33.079
<v Speaker 1>huh so, Yeah, it's very very eighties in some bad ways.

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01:57:33.279 --> 01:57:37.479
<v Speaker 1>Here's where it's good, especially for eighties. It's very diverse.

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01:57:37.800 --> 01:57:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Is it's very diverse. I'm not just talking about Alfrey

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01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Woodard and her family, like Karen Allen's colleagues, people who

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01:57:46.159 --> 01:57:48.880
<v Speaker 1>work at the station. Lots of women in the movie.

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01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Not lots, because there's not really that many people in

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01:57:52.079 --> 01:57:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the movie, but like the Ghost of Christmas Present is

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01:57:53.960 --> 01:57:54.439
<v Speaker 1>a woman.

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01:57:54.319 --> 01:57:56.720
<v Speaker 2>But A swapped the gender of Bob Cratchitt, so that

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01:57:56.880 --> 01:57:59.800
<v Speaker 2>that is an active choice. Yeah, they swapped. They made

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01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:02.560
<v Speaker 2>that character person of color, and they made that character woman.

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01:58:02.720 --> 01:58:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And then they put Alfred Wooden in their movie,

2532
01:58:04.840 --> 01:58:07.079
<v Speaker 1>which is only which only can only improve it only

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01:58:07.119 --> 01:58:11.600
<v Speaker 1>improves everything. So I will say, like, for that era,

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01:58:11.960 --> 01:58:15.760
<v Speaker 1>that's all very progressive. That was not That's not anything

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01:58:15.800 --> 01:58:17.720
<v Speaker 1>anyone would have in the room been like, we really

2536
01:58:17.760 --> 01:58:20.840
<v Speaker 1>should think about diversifying. Like no one had that conversation.

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01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:24.880
<v Speaker 1>So kudos to them for that. Honestly, very diverse. I

2538
01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:27.800
<v Speaker 1>think pretty decent roles for women. Let's see, what should

2539
01:58:27.800 --> 01:58:30.079
<v Speaker 1>I give this movie that I like very much but

2540
01:58:30.279 --> 01:58:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't love because of these some of these some

2541
01:58:32.800 --> 01:58:35.199
<v Speaker 1>of these issues. I'm gonna get it a four. Okay,

2542
01:58:35.199 --> 01:58:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give it a four out of ten. Dog breeds,

2543
01:58:39.479 --> 01:58:42.600
<v Speaker 1>sex acts like the Siberian husky.

2544
01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh what is that?

2545
01:58:43.880 --> 01:58:46.279
<v Speaker 1>That's why you have sex with a with a chubby

2546
01:58:46.359 --> 01:58:54.600
<v Speaker 1>person in the snow? How about you, Paul?

2547
01:58:59.319 --> 01:59:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with you. I really this happens every

2548
01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:05.760
<v Speaker 2>once in a while this year podcast. But like talking

2549
01:59:05.840 --> 01:59:08.399
<v Speaker 2>this through with you, I like it more than I

2550
01:59:08.479 --> 01:59:11.119
<v Speaker 2>did in the beginning. A lot of the connections that

2551
01:59:11.159 --> 01:59:13.199
<v Speaker 2>you're getting as soon as you got as soon as

2552
01:59:13.239 --> 01:59:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you said them, I was like, oh, right, that did happen.

2553
01:59:15.000 --> 01:59:18.119
<v Speaker 2>But they go by so quickly, and the movie really

2554
01:59:18.159 --> 01:59:20.600
<v Speaker 2>doesn't underline them, which is not a bad thing. I

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01:59:20.880 --> 01:59:23.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's just because it's also like it's a Christmas Carol,

2556
01:59:23.439 --> 01:59:26.079
<v Speaker 2>so maybe my full brain wasn't trained on trying to

2557
01:59:26.119 --> 01:59:28.079
<v Speaker 2>like draw the connections, like I know where this is going,

2558
01:59:28.159 --> 01:59:30.279
<v Speaker 2>so I wasn't working hard enough to get all of them.

2559
01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, honestly, I think that's part of the

2560
01:59:32.399 --> 01:59:35.159
<v Speaker 1>complacency too of the filmmaker. Yeah, is like, well, everyone

2561
01:59:35.199 --> 01:59:37.359
<v Speaker 1>knows where this is going, so it can be sloppy.

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01:59:38.159 --> 01:59:40.920
<v Speaker 2>But like everything you said, I think it's a for

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01:59:41.039 --> 01:59:44.600
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty eight very diverse cast. Alfred Woodard's character

2564
01:59:44.720 --> 01:59:48.640
<v Speaker 2>is a fully fleshed out character. I would have loved

2565
01:59:48.720 --> 01:59:51.640
<v Speaker 2>more of her, but like grading slightly on a curve here, Yeah,

2566
01:59:51.880 --> 01:59:52.800
<v Speaker 2>a good job there.

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01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:55.199
<v Speaker 1>And Carol Kane gets to be so eccentric and.

2568
01:59:55.319 --> 01:59:57.439
<v Speaker 2>Weird and weird, just so weird.

2569
01:59:57.760 --> 01:59:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Let her go off.

2570
01:59:58.760 --> 02:00:01.399
<v Speaker 2>It so fun. That doesn't age. Well, it's it's the

2571
02:00:01.560 --> 02:00:03.399
<v Speaker 2>guy in the office of the shotgun like at one

2572
02:00:03.439 --> 02:00:05.239
<v Speaker 2>point he has the shotgun in Bill Murray, like before

2573
02:00:05.279 --> 02:00:06.880
<v Speaker 2>he brings the down, he's like, you're hired back, And

2574
02:00:06.920 --> 02:00:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, do you think any of your coworkers might

2575
02:00:08.960 --> 02:00:11.279
<v Speaker 2>have something to say about hiring this guy back right now?

2576
02:00:11.439 --> 02:00:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Like that's not great? But then the terrorizing, the booth

2577
02:00:15.199 --> 02:00:18.600
<v Speaker 2>of the shotgun, it just whatever. However it was meant

2578
02:00:18.640 --> 02:00:21.399
<v Speaker 2>to play in nineteen eighty eight, it no longer plays

2579
02:00:21.439 --> 02:00:24.119
<v Speaker 2>now because I'm I'm sure it's not playing to me

2580
02:00:24.159 --> 02:00:26.479
<v Speaker 2>the way they intended it to. The gay joke, like

2581
02:00:26.560 --> 02:00:28.840
<v Speaker 2>we got so far, I was I was prepared for

2582
02:00:28.920 --> 02:00:31.720
<v Speaker 2>gay jokes in this movie, just because it just seems

2583
02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:33.720
<v Speaker 2>ripe for it. Like he's gonna be mean, he's gonna

2584
02:00:33.720 --> 02:00:35.800
<v Speaker 2>call people names the whole movie. It seems like that

2585
02:00:35.840 --> 02:00:38.279
<v Speaker 2>would happen. And then I was like, wow, we actually nope,

2586
02:00:38.680 --> 02:00:40.119
<v Speaker 2>last fucking five.

2587
02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Minutes we did that fumbled on the one yard line.

2588
02:00:42.640 --> 02:00:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Chinese food joke is not great. It's it's

2589
02:00:45.760 --> 02:00:48.760
<v Speaker 2>it's got a lot of eightiesism's in it. I'll agree

2590
02:00:48.800 --> 02:00:51.800
<v Speaker 2>with you. I'll give it a four. I was considering

2591
02:00:51.880 --> 02:00:54.079
<v Speaker 2>a five, but I don't think. I don't think it

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02:00:54.159 --> 02:00:55.000
<v Speaker 2>quite rates for five.

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02:00:55.079 --> 02:00:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm honestly I think four is reaching. Yeah, because

2594
02:00:58.079 --> 02:00:59.960
<v Speaker 1>some of these some of these problems are bad.

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02:01:00.520 --> 02:01:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I was trying to offer like credit for

2596
02:01:03.359 --> 02:01:05.840
<v Speaker 2>the fact of putting consciously putting outfree Wood in that

2597
02:01:05.960 --> 02:01:08.840
<v Speaker 2>role and Cane and Carol Caine, but it just doesn't

2598
02:01:08.880 --> 02:01:11.039
<v Speaker 2>quite rise. I think I think it was a better

2599
02:01:11.239 --> 02:01:14.840
<v Speaker 2>movie with these drawbacks and that then I could do

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<v Speaker 2>a five. But it's also just really shaggy, even even

2601
02:01:18.199 --> 02:01:20.640
<v Speaker 2>like though I like it, more like it's it's very

2602
02:01:20.760 --> 02:01:23.520
<v Speaker 2>very shaggy. So I will give it a four, a

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02:01:23.600 --> 02:01:26.760
<v Speaker 2>four out of ten sex acts coated as dog breeds

2604
02:01:26.800 --> 02:01:27.840
<v Speaker 2>like the Golden Retriever.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dear, what's that that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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02:01:29.920 --> 02:01:31.680
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like a game of hide and seek,

2608
02:01:31.760 --> 02:01:35.560
<v Speaker 2>where like you say go and then you run, and

2609
02:01:35.720 --> 02:01:38.279
<v Speaker 2>the first person to return back to the bedroom, the

2610
02:01:38.319 --> 02:01:42.079
<v Speaker 2>boudoir or wherever you're staging your your sex act returns

2611
02:01:42.119 --> 02:01:44.319
<v Speaker 2>something that's actually gold gets to bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. I kudos to you for not going where I

2613
02:01:48.399 --> 02:01:51.319
<v Speaker 1>thought that joke was going. Well done, Sirtain.

2614
02:01:51.359 --> 02:01:57.039
<v Speaker 2>I didn't bring up urine one, not even once. So

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to offer a palate cleanser for scrooged?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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02:02:00.000 --> 02:02:03.199
<v Speaker 1>No, because, look, it is problematic. There are a million

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02:02:03.279 --> 02:02:06.119
<v Speaker 1>other versions of a Christmas Carol out there for whatever

2619
02:02:06.239 --> 02:02:08.279
<v Speaker 1>flavor you like, if you want one for kids, if

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02:02:08.319 --> 02:02:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you want like an old, tiny one. This at least

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, is like, it's interesting because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a comedy and it's kind of a caustic comedy version.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a different it's probably the furthest from the

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<v Speaker 2>original text that I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is they just do one of these with Will

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02:02:23.520 --> 02:02:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Ferrell and Ryan Reynolds. I feel like they just did.

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<v Speaker 2>They did a musical. I don't think it's a Christmas Carol.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I think it's an original story. Got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Think what could be wrong googling? Now, Paul, are you

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02:02:35.159 --> 02:02:36.800
<v Speaker 1>offering any palate clunchers? While I google the.

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<v Speaker 2>Muppet Christmas Carol? That is my favorite Christmas Carol. I

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02:02:39.880 --> 02:02:40.319
<v Speaker 2>think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect and better than the book. Apparently that he did

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02:02:45.720 --> 02:02:46.439
<v Speaker 1>not feel.

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02:02:46.199 --> 02:02:49.199
<v Speaker 2>The need to read better than the novelette.

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02:02:49.760 --> 02:02:50.000
<v Speaker 4>You know what?

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02:02:50.159 --> 02:02:52.520
<v Speaker 1>So I googled it and it is in fact. Spirited

2638
02:02:52.640 --> 02:02:54.319
<v Speaker 1>is the name of the movie with Ryan Reynolds and

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02:02:54.359 --> 02:02:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Will Ferrell, And it is based on a Christmas Oh

2640
02:02:56.199 --> 02:02:58.359
<v Speaker 1>it is. It's a remake of a Christmas Carol and

2641
02:02:58.359 --> 02:03:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a satire. Oh, it's a satire of the various adaptations. Since, okay,

2642
02:03:03.760 --> 02:03:04.319
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting.

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02:03:04.439 --> 02:03:06.239
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. That sounds like it could either be great

2644
02:03:06.399 --> 02:03:09.640
<v Speaker 2>or just become a mishmash of stuff of stuff.

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02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:12.079
<v Speaker 1>I did not see it. I couldn't I couldn't tell you.

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02:03:12.760 --> 02:03:15.439
<v Speaker 2>All right, So that is the end of our show.

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<v Speaker 2>it's Mary Fisher from She Devil.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, my name is Mary Fisher, but you can just

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<v Speaker 4>call me Mary. I'm so pleased to offer thanks for

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<v Speaker 4>my dearest darling friend Hannah from Scotland for listening to

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<v Speaker 4>That Aged Well. I've actually written several best sellers set

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<v Speaker 4>Under Killian's Kilt and the Highwayman's Heaving hagis So thank

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<v Speaker 4>you Hannah for listening to Fat aged Well.

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<v Speaker 1>With your hot, throbbing ears.

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<v Speaker 4>May your days be filled with champagne and your nights

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<v Speaker 4>with quivering erotic activities.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize she wrote for different countries.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a big thing in the romance genre. It

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<v Speaker 1>is Scotland set romance novels. For some reason, women are

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<v Speaker 1>horny for Scottish men. I don't know when that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we learned about that in Sex and the City.

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<v Speaker 2>If their tongues can do that to a little letter R, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>imagine what they could do to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I am sweating after all?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Erica, any final thoughts on screw Ruge.

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<v Speaker 4>Merry Christmas everyone, from the ghost of Christmas present and.

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<v Speaker 2>A happy New Year from the ghost that Christmas passed.

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<v Speaker 1>And then just the sound of death. That's the ghost

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<v Speaker 1>of Christmas future. Merry Christmas everyone, put a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Love in your heart, and the world and the world

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<v Speaker 3>would be a bed a place, and the world and

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<v Speaker 3>the world we'd be a bed a place for you,

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<v Speaker 3>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And me and me. Just wait and see, wait and see.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome, You're welcome. Everyone. Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's ar Records. They're calling a sinus