Speaker 1: I'll start to you to present Off the Bench with
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Speaker 2: Oh what's that?
Speaker 3: And y'all what's going on? Welcome in now number two
of o TV. Hope everybody's having a great marning. This marning.
I hope you had a great uh great weekend. Whatever
you got into something country was great. And know a
lot of schools so their fundraisers. Hope every school raised
the money to continue to provide for the next generation
of our kids. And uh, I hope everybody makes you
this uh Monday, all right, Scott's SMU finance bro. I's
gonna start buying everything cheap soon to get Richard. Probably true, Yeah,
probably true, probably true. But again we know I don't
know anything. I mean, my biggest point of focus this
week in was trying to continue grinding at Fred's at
one am when I was just dog tired, shin splints,
quads on fire.
Speaker 4: What were you doing at Fred's?
Speaker 3: I can only imagine. So it started going around shut
that bull.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen early this this plan went into action early,
really before any drink said really been consumed, like a
little starter drink. And then one of our boys is like, hey,
Fred's intellectual contagion.
Speaker 3: So this was a sober tea mop.
Speaker 2: Choice, no sober like like he had a drink and
the same when we find out, but like he went no.
But I messed up because I was like, oh, dude,
y'all should go because it's perfect. It's spring break, so
you're not gonna get judged by all the college kids.
And then it was like, oh, they're already there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was already. I mean there's always gonna be
strengthened numbers, Like we talked about if we're gonna be
old people showing up at Fred's, you got to have
a lot of us.
Speaker 4: That's a choice to be out of college and go
to friends.
Speaker 3: Yep. And then we learned though that's going and you.
Speaker 2: Going, I don't go to.
Speaker 4: I would if to drag me out there.
Speaker 3: No, but but yeah, but then we really I mean,
once you realize string break this game on. Then somebody
got in touch with them and they're like yeah. I
was like, if coming over the call, you get free
emissioned so I can only imagine what was going through
because there actually were no college kids there. It was
from me. There was nobody there. It's just us, which
also I think we were in reggies actually.
Speaker 2: The entire time, which is to overflow, kind of bought.
Speaker 3: Me and my wife were talking about this, it's it's
it's it's it's so nice now, and I know that's
a positive, but it's like these kids takes.
Speaker 4: Away from these still have that secret bathroom in the
kid was.
Speaker 3: Like, you could have a wedding in here. I don't
know because I was on the other side. We're on
the bad could have a wedding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's coming from a web.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's all the nicest wedding excellent. But yeah, so
I can only fathom, though, what was going through the
college kids who were like working the gate as you know,
fifty to sixty forty year old adult show up fully
suited and booted like, because that was essentially we were
fighting for our lives up there. Yeah, on stage, me
and my wife are trying to grind and we were
so dog tired. There's a video of us who we
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myself up with my arms on like a bitch, like
trying to keep my hips thrusting. She's like fully leaned
into me, slumped over, trying to keep her hips to working,
doing everything we can to keep grinding. Finally we had
to call it, get me out of here.
Speaker 4: It was Uh, I did see a video of you
dancing reds.
Speaker 3: Which one was that I don't know a fight song
one gold Girls impressions. Yeah, yeah, that's peak performance forty plus.
Speaker 4: Jeez, you're not forty.
Speaker 3: No, I mean thirty six. Dude, I'm not not forty.
I guess I'm technically not not right. Whatever the point is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm about a month away from forty.
Speaker 3: Damn. It's real.
Speaker 2: It's real, it's here, it's real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It was some geriatric grinding. Scott, you are correct. It
was uh it was auto bone. It was autopilot grinding,
grinding like literally on bones. Yes, yes, yes, exactly, yes, grind.
I mean I'm still half shins my right my right ship.
I know, I know, but uh, but it was a
great time. It was a great time.
Speaker 2: Did you find did you get jet packed to loosen
up a little bit? He wasn't dancing at the at
the gala.
Speaker 3: Uh No, I don't know. I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't remember seeing.
Speaker 2: Him at Fred's Wow.
Speaker 3: I know all uptight jet pack Wow. I don't know
if I've ever seen him dance. Really though, being.
Speaker 2: Honest, I mean me, you and Bull tried to get him.
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Let's talk a little LSU offensive line. As again we've
talked about in the past, but I believe right now
that when you look at this next year's team, this
team will be as good as the offensive line allows
it to be. If you want to combat that statement,
talk about the defense, I'm sure absolutely right, Like the
defense needs to take a step forward to justify all
the investment that you've made over the last couple of
years on that side of the ball. But offensively, you
have a chance to be and I do not say
this lightly, you have a chance to be in the
stratosphere of the nineteen offense, of the Jaden Heisman year offense.
Like that's the type of weapons that you have, that's
the type of returning quarterback that you have. The only
thing that it is to decide is what type of
offensive line do you have? And so I want to
explore the one thing that I'd forgotten about that got
me a bit excited again. Guys, Jake, I forgot you
got Alex Atkins, former Florida State offensive coordinator, guy who
was one of the hottest names Broils Award Candy, one
of the hottest names a couple of years ago Florida
State craters. He ends up shouldering a lot of the blame.
But when you talk about a great offensive mind to
bring in former longtime O line coach to be your
run game coordinator and start to explore how to get
that portion of your game better, Like, that's an elite
pickup that I had forgotten about. That got me a
bit excited when I was reading again, and remember that
he was the run game coordinator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you can get going running the football.
This was an offense that was seventh in the country
in yards passing per game a year ago, and that
was the first year for Garrett nes Smyer to be
the starter. It's only going to go up in your
number two. You could make the argument that he's got
better weapons this year than he had a year ago.
I know you lose a Mason Taylor as a security blanket,
but you go get a couple of tight ends out
of the portal trade as Green is going to be
a year older at that position. I think receiver wise,
I don't really even think it's an argument. I think
you're much deeper this year than you were a year ago.
With some guys. Your leading receiver, which again we don't
talk about it. Aaron Aerson was your leading receiver. He's
coming back into the fold. The running backs, you had
a true freshman last year. He's going to be better
in all phases. But I mean, he's somebody that caught
the ball well last year. You just got to run
the football, and you're right, like, you bring in somebody
that is kind of their specialty and it doesn't have
to be the number one rush offense in the country.
You just have to be able to compliment what the
passing game is going to give you. Again seventh in
the country a year ago, better weapons quarterback in his
second year. Now, you know, pass protection was great last year.
We really we do point that out. That certainly helped
a pocket passer. So that part of it is going
to be something to pay attention to. But as far
as like the run game goes, like, can this offensive
line be better in the run game than that one was?
I think it could be.
Speaker 3: But like, I mean, yeah, it's you talk about helping
a pocket passer, and yes, absolutely right. The pass section again,
do not gloss over that elite last year. But you
know what else helps a pocket passer. When I'm third
and one, he can hand the ball off and doesn't
have to try to throw a quick screen to Aaron
Anderson with a prestat motion to get the defense on
the run to try to gain it. Play action helps
a pocket passer where teams are actually getting sucked in
by the threat of the run because you're popping off
at five yards of carry right now and safeties are
coming in. Then all of a sudden, bam over the top.
So I mean to me, Jake, that's what I want.
I want third and one to not feel like an adventure.
It's felt like a couple of years now where every
time you've been in a short yardage situation you feel
like you're almost climbing uphill, like punching uphill, and that
should never be the case.
Speaker 2: It was so difficult against any opponent, you know what
I'm saying. Like it wasn't just like the elite opponents
that you played. It was any opponent that you played.
It was conference knock. You couldn't get it done on
third and one at the goal line, and they were
trying different things. You go back to the South Carolina game,
they tried a full house backfield with Gabe Relaford back then.
I mean they were trying to anything they could to
create some movement up front to be able to make
that where it was nine times out of ten and
not three times out of ten, like it was a
chore to be able to go out there, line up
and get that yard. And so you're right, like that
has to be something like I would even say like
third and three or shorter, like you should be able
to run the football with the passing offense that you have. Yeah,
right on third and three. Teams should be so terrified
that you're going to beat them through the air that
that opens things up and even that can become something
where you expect to get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was maybe the craziest part to me
last year was eventually you did feel like you capitulated
and you just almost gave up on running vall in
some of the short yarded situation and there was always
some sort of design quick hitters throw that was like
you know in theory and extension of the run game,
but still came with a bit of predictability and came
with the risk of the past not being perfect or
a ball being dropped. So with all that in mind.
That is to set up. Okay, who will the offensive
line be then? And it's a weird time for LSU
where they've been doing spring ball. They go on spring break.
Now they're back and you're gonna go try to finish
off your battle for pole position heading into camp.
Speaker 2: So a year ago, I was trying to find the
numbers because I wanted to make sure we got it right.
You were one hundred and fourth in rushing yards per
game a year ago yards per attempt, You were seventy
sixth in the country rushing play percentage. To your point,
would you just kind of lay it out where you
pretty much gave up on it because you weren't good
at it? Uh, you were forty point eighty six percent
of the time, which was one hundred and twenty seventh
in the nation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gave up. You gave it.
Speaker 2: I mean that you were almost dead last in running
the football because you had to say, we can't do it.
Let's stop beating our head against this brick wall. So
credit to them for like moving on and finding a way.
But you shouldn't have to find a way. No, And
so who will you be relying on this year? Potentially
as we exit spring, who will be again? Springball is
like qualifying in a NASCAR race does not guarantee you
that you will be a starter, that you will win
the race, but it does decide the position going into camp,
which is win. Will be excited, and it looks like
at left tackle, Tyree Adams is going to be very
hard to unseat. He had a really solid Texas Bowl
filling in for Will Campbell. He's been having a great spring.
He's at that age, Jake redshirt sophomore. If you are
a big time recruit, red shirt sophomore, especially on the line,
I feel like is when you really come online, you've
been there for two years. Your body's now mature, your
brain is now mature enough to handle a college playbook.
Like for me personally, that's when I finally came online.
So I think Tyree Adams makes all the sense in
the world at left tackle. Though the other name is
kind of the mixer Solomon Thomas and Carry's Kurb, But
I mean a couple of freshmen there, it's gotta be Adams.
It's probably a problem if it's not Adams. To be fair,
you got some options. You went into the portal and
you you know, grab some players that have a lot
of experience starting, but that's more going to be in
the interior. I think when you look at Adams, when
you look at how he played last year when he
went in there, absolutely he is going to get the
first opportunity. And then it's like, Okay, well is it
going to be Thompson at guard? Is going to be
Chester Mo moving over to guard? Is more going to
slide in to the center position at right tackle? I
do think that's going to be an open competition. Yeah,
we do. You know, oftentimes we forget like Weston Davis
was a true five star guy coming out and he's
got the talent, like first time player going to be
in there, and so can he go out there and
win a job? But what I saw in the ball game, man,
that that was a crew that said, you know what,
screw it, put your head down, go to work, and
they kind of mauled in that game they did against
a team in Baylor that had been getting after the
quarterback and what they want six in a row going
into that gameame they were. So that was very encouraging
and Tee, you know this as well as anybody, the
confidence that that can give you as you head into
you know, fourth quarter and off season training in spring football,
which they're currently in right now. So, uh, there's still
open positions. I don't think, you know, necessarily anything is
set into stone, but you do have capable guys with
capable starts, so you go get from the acc from
the tend to be able to come in here, give
you that veteran presence to pair with some young guys
that seem like they're ready to take over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Jake said, interior wise, there's a lot of
different options that could take place at left guard. It
looks like it's gonna be Dj Chester or Paul ma
Benga and Bing I thought got better and better and
finished strong last year. But DJ Chester probably more of
a natural guard than he is. A sinner at center
right now, guessing that Braylan Moore well maybe end up
winning that job. I mean again, that's why you brought
him in here, though he'll have to go prove that.
But either way, you have a very experienced center in
DJ Chester. So I actually love your depth at center.
That is that is really good like like, and that's
the other thing about the interior. You seem to have
injury insurance because of all the different options. You have
a right guard. Josh Thompson another one of the transfers
coming up from Northwestern, joining late. He's been repping a
tackle as well. Yeah, but but but you know, I
think in the most perfect line, maybe he slots right
in the right guard. But then again, look there too, Yeah,
Mybinga is still there. We got Cohen Ecles in the
back of Roles who's in the mix, Bo Bordelon as well,
Carrius Kern. So there are other names. Really, I think
one of the big keys is will Weston Davis. Like
you said, ja, can he win that right tackle job?
And is he ready for the right tackle job? Because
if he is, that really frees up a ton positionally
to mess around with that inside with Thompson, Moore, Mabinga, Chester, Eckles, Bordolan, like,
there's a lot of different options you could start to
play with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ Chester is somebody that I think could benefit
from moving to the guard position. Look, he stepped in
and played center last year. It wasn't all bad. I
don't want to act like it was. But also there
was a lot of pre snap penalties he led. I
think he led all of the of the power conferences
and pre snap penalties at the center position. If I
remember that stat right from the ball game, that was
something that was a problem for him. Now it could
get better in year number two. But bringing somebody in
from Virginia Tech that's got starts at understands the position,
and then you free up DJ Chester's mind a little bit.
Now I would lean on you in this conversation. You
played both. I'm sure you felt more free at guard
than you did, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, definitely. Everything in life is a is a
resource management game. How much of my resource am I
committing to the mental side is the physical side? And yeah,
it's not close. It's not close. At guard, DJ Chester
can just be firmly focused on taking advantage of his
massive size, yeah, and strength. So again the best starting
to Oligne, I say that you know, I don't know right,
Please let somebody prove me wrong. So I would love
that you Always loving guys outperform the labels that we
try to put on them, but probably feels like Tyrie
at left, either m bingay Chester at left guard, Braylan
Morrison or Josh Thompson right guard and West to Davis
right tackle. But again we'll see there's a lot of
football left to play. But that group has to find
the answers for this LSU football team to end where
they want to be. All right, Coming up next, you're
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Speaker 3: Mama, Ben Charley so dream wow me again? Oh well, well, well, hell,
hell hello, we have a new D one Baseball Top
twenty five see it all. Kindle and co. Decided to
do this week after triggering LSU fans last week. Well,
there's a new top team in the nation and it
is the Arkansas Razor bir.
Speaker 2: Ooh, I thought maybe it would be Texas.
Speaker 3: It is the Arkansas Razorbacks, thirty and three on the year,
like Elisehood, eleven and one overall in the SEC. They
are now first in the country Texas coming in and
number two. Jake, of course they are twenty six and
four on the year right now. And then how Bathmi
Tiger is LSU coming in at number three, backup where
they belong thirty and three on the year after they're
perfect four in a week. Clemson checking in f four.
Tennessee dropping from one all the way down to five
after getting beat by A and M in their series.
In Lindsey Nelson, you got ole Miss at six.
Speaker 2: U what, yeah, huh?
Speaker 3: I haven't thought about ole Miss being you know, like, yeah,
a really good little minute again. I was used to
them falling back. I thought Bianco was done. Looks like
he may have one more in him. Georgia seven, Oregon
State homeless yet still very good at baseball, checking in
at number eight. Florida State drops all the way down
to nine after a two and two week, and then
U see LA at ten, And then you get to
some more like Auburn, Alabama. You see Irvine, Louisville, Oregon,
North Carolina, Vanderbilt, panterabal down is seventeen now, even though
they had a perfect four and o week themselves. Oklahoma
drops all the way to nineteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Venue from twenty three to seventeen.
Speaker 3: Damn so Van New Domes dropped out. Oklahoma all the
way drops all way down to nineteen. What else is interessidient.
Oh Coastal Carolina's back in the top twenty five. Keeped
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Kansas twenty two, Southern Miss Arizona and Virgil and your
Tech rounding out the top twenty five, who all dropped
that Arizona bbu. Yeah, I am so LSU backup, never there,
very happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're a top three team.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean it's well deserved, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And they weren't gonna jump Arkansas or Texas.
Speaker 2: Tech like this makes it is what it is. Texas, Yeah,
Texas beat you. You got a very similar record. Now,
they did lose that midweek game, but still they got
they got a little half a point if you will
over you right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've lost a couple of midweek games. This LSU
baseball team is not because again I do not know
how a midweek pitcher is supposed to face down this
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appears to be intrinsically tied to New Orleans. We all
know cam Ward is going one overall correct. It appears
that Cleveland is terrified of their ability to draft quarterbacks,
and so they are saying that they will. They're putting
it out there. At least they will not be doing so,
and they will likely be taking Obdul Carter, and look,
Carter and Miles Garrett on the same team in theory
should be absolutely terrified. Now, Miles Garrett already is absolutely terrified.
It hasn't meant anything to Cleveland. I don't know if
it's going to mean anything, but I do appreciate Cleveland's
just absolutely they've just been They're broken, their spirit is
broken when it comes to quarterbacks, and they know, like,
we just don't trust Shooter Sanders enough to want to
take that risk when outdoo Card is right there. And
I actually fully understand that, because the thing about Shooter
is he's a he's a he's a he's a good
quarterback prospect. He's not a great quarterback prospect. Uh, you know,
probably to be fair, I probably would have said that
about like bo Nick's last year two and end up
being pretty You never quite know what that position. It's
a weird position. But I understand taking abdul Card there.
The Giants, you would think, okay, well they need a quarterback,
they'll go Shooter at sweet Well, they just signed Russell
Wilson and Jameis Winston. Seems like a lot of commitment
to then draft a quarterback at three overall and have
him sit behind not one, but two different guys, and
then you start to run down the list and nobody
else appears to have any interest in Shoulder until you
get to New Orleans Saints at pick number nine, a
team that in theory should be in the market for
a first round quarterback, especially if it's the second quarterback
on the board. Like second quarterback on the board any
given draft. I mean, that's you know, most of the times,
that's somebody that you would be getting excited for. And
it appears that Dion is kind of reading the chest
pieces the same way as he's been talking about the
New Orleans Saints. He he's been talking about how when
he points to Colorado's black and gold logo, how much
he likes the Colors, posts a picture on Instagram of
him talking to Saints quarterbacks Scott Tolzing and Keith Williams
wide receiver coach. He's been pushing the Saints hard.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: The question is is that because he legitimately wants Shoulder
to go there, or does he think that the Saints
want Shoulder and he's getting excited about it, or does
he think that if he gets past New Orleans, who
knows how far he will end up falling, and that
he's trying to incentivize some other team by trading up
with or ahead of New Orleans, saying look, if you
if if you want Shooter, you better get before the
Saints because they want him.
Speaker 2: I don't think he wants the fall if he doesn't
go to the New Orleans Saints So if the Giants,
like you said, if they pass on him, I don't
think the Raiders are gonna give Geno Smith that type
of money and select Shirr Sanders. I think Ashton Gentz
is probably gonna be the play there. So if he
doesn't go to New Orleans, he's not going to Chicago,
San Francisco, Dallas, Miami, Indy, Atlanta, Arizona, Cincy, Seattle. On mean,
I could continue to go on and on and on,
take first round, maybe the twenty one the Steelers, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if he doesn't go nine, he's gonna have to wait,
possibly unless the team trades up, which they certainly could
do if they really like him. But he's gonna have
to wait. And so as we start to see what
the fit might be, it looks like with the moves
that those teams have made at three and six, So
if it wasn't going to be the Browns, and the
Browns seem like they're going to take Carter or Hunter
at two, then I think he realizes it's got to
be the Saints or he could last until twenty one.
Speaker 3: So he definitely has a lot of personal incentive in
pushing this idea. Of she'd heerd to the Saints. The
thing is, though, I'm not hearing a lot about the
Saints being all that interested in Shadu, which maybe I
feel a bit conflicted about simply because we have many
We have made much of the fact that the New
Orleans Saints have not drafted a first round quarterback in
fifty years. And so you're like, Okay, well wait a
second here, you're telling me you have the chance to
get QB two in the first round, Like why without
giving up any resources? Well, like, do you do you
not need to at least roll the dice here and
see what you have? And so I understand that. But again,
and at the same time, the NFL hive mind does
not think Shoulder to maybe be worthy of a objective
top ten ranking, right removed of context of like who's
on the board and everything else, Like there are players
that you can say, Okay, this is a top ten
talent in any given year. That does not appeared to
be the case that Shoulder. But then again, to continue
to disargue with myself, like you never know what quarterback, Jake,
It's always a coin flip as to whether or not
a guy is gonna be good even with the top
top prospects. So if you're the Saint, you haven't drafted
a first rod quarterback in fifty years, shoulder is there?
Do you pull the trigger?
Speaker 2: I don't think you do. I don't know that he
helps you in the near future right now.
Speaker 3: None this season.
Speaker 2: Probably the way that you have structured this team, in
the contract that Derek Carr has, you have, I mean
just such holes in your offense with playmakers in my
opinion that it like if you drafted him one, I'm
not sure that he would play over Derek Carr right away. Okay, right, So,
and you're not going to cut Car, So you have
that asset that's just sitting behind Car and Car as
we talked about I think it was Thursday last week.
He needs weapons, he needs help. He's got to have
somebody to help him. He is not a player that
can do it and create on his own. So if
you take Sanders, that doesn't help you maybe for two years.
Speaker 3: And Cars still going to be awkward next year.
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So, although you know, to get a first
round quarterback, to get somebody that has a high ceiling
would be very exciting because it's been fifty years. But
this doesn't feel like the year like next year's quarterback class,
and with Carr's contract situation. Okay, maybe you feel better
about it. Yeah, but this isn't even against Sanders. This
is more the direction of your football team. You need
a receiver, you need playmakers. You could take one of
these tight ends in this draft as kind of a
jack of all trade. You could take a game changing
running back. If Ashton Genty is still there, if the
Raiders don't select him at six, you can, you know,
if if you want to continue to bolster up the
d line, which is you spend a lot of time
and effort there. If you want to go Mason Graham
if he's a if you want to Mickey Loomis trade
back and gain assets, Maybe you trade.
Speaker 3: Maybe DM smokescreen helps in that.
Speaker 2: Maybe you trade with Pittsburgh. Maybe they move up.
Speaker 3: I don't like.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know that they would
move all the way up to nine because they're looking
at the same thing we're looking at that nobody needs
a quarterback. But maybe you could drop back to twelve
and pick up a second or a third round pick,
because you need that kind of help. Sanders doesn't help
you now because of how you formatted the team. Again,
this is not against him as a player. I actually
think that he is going to be a starting quarterback
in the NFL. So I mean to bring it back
to where we started. You're not unlike the Browns in
this regard. You basically are saying, we have too many
problems elsewhere and our needs are such that almost regard
like unless without him being an overwhelming talent, that quarterbacks
just can't be high enough on the priority list this
year if you're talking about the best way to build
this team for this year.
Speaker 3: So again I get what Dion's doing. I think it's
more about trying to stop the fall. Unfortunately, for all
of his lobbying, I don't think the New Orleans Saints
are that interested in shuldhar Standers.
Speaker 2: And honestly they shouldn't be now. Again, the way they
formatted this is kind of taking them out. And if
there was a generation, if this was one of those
quarterback years where it's like I've got five guys in
the first round and you had somebody fall to you,
like a couple of years ago. If you love Josh
Allen and you were there at nine and he fell
to you, then you select him. This isn't that same situation.
And there's receivers at this spot. I think there's gonna
be some tight ends at this spot. There might be
a running back at this spot. And if none of
those players are there and you don't want to trade back,
would you rather have you know, Mason Graham, would you?
I mean there's a couple.
Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting, like you know or Sanders or.
Speaker 2: Like, uh, Jalen Walker's there?
Speaker 3: Well Johnson is he? Is he talking about me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in that kind of range. He's like ten
to fifteen. But again, personally, with what you have and
the needs that you have, if you think about like
trading back three four spots, I think if you move
back to fourteen, trading back would be perfect.
Speaker 3: But again, what's going to incentivize someone to want to
trade up.
Speaker 2: To depend It just depends on what's still available. We've
never seen, you know, the draft always plays out differently
than we think. But if you move back from nine
to fourteen and tedor Roll McMillan sitting there at fourteen,
if you get teda Rod McMillan at fourteen, and then
you get a second round pick. Yeah, be compared to
you know, a quarterback that's going to wait for a
couple No, I.
Speaker 3: Mean that'd be huge. Hell, you could trade back and
maybe still draft the quarterback, I guess, unless somebody trade.
Speaker 2: It up to Ye to pick him.
Speaker 3: So I again, I would not expect it despite the noise,
but it has created a very interesting dynamic with the
draft just three weeks away. All right, when we get back,
let's go ahead and close out our number two of OTB.
Speaker 1: Back from the break where the sports talk gets real
kind of off the bench and with Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's Master's week. I don't really care as much
as a lot to, but I do enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all, not even a little
bit for you, But I get I get the intrigue
for sure of golfers and why they would enjoy, no
question about it. I get the intrigue. But y'all know me,
I'm a meat head. Uh these hands uh don't fit
around a golf club.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It just looks awkward. It's like a caveman trying to
out there play golf. It's just bad. I like, uh,
I mean, grow up anywhere close to a golf course.
If you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I have some very positive memories of I think the
day going over to like Doctor Bankson's house, or like
Masters Sunday, big spread, oh of that, watching bubble watching
or something. So you know, you always have those moments.
And uh, it's kind of like when we were all
cosplaying as hockey fans.
Speaker 2: For the US Canada.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the US Canada. Like I just cosplay as
a golf guy for a weekend. It's fun to pretend
and to watch and and just dip your toe into
a fandom I normally don't.
Speaker 2: Without question, again, I completely get it. It's like for me,
people don't understand Champions League, but like Champions League to
me is like my Masters, Like I'm gonna sit there
and it doesn't matter if I if I root for
the teams, care about the teams. I'm gonna watch watch
the bus I'm gonna watch the best of the best
in the world. I get the Masters. I'm gonna bet
on the Masters. Every year. I'm gonna take like three
long shots and I'm going to bet them. I do
it every year.
Speaker 3: Have you ever won?
Speaker 2: I've gotten runner up? You get you don't get anything, No, no, no,
you get a pat on the back and at a boy.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to that. That's gonna be really fun.
I I again, I know this is cliche and tired
and boring, but I'm looking forward to running into a
master's nap at some point this weekend, and it's gonna
be fantastic. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See when somebody's like, yeah, I'm looking forward to this
event for the nap, hey, I mean, hey, don't hate bruh.
Speaker 3: I now I love a good footing nap, do you?
Footy nap also lead no commercials, are you kidding me?
Just a constant ebb and.
Speaker 2: Flow of the foer and everything else. I guess Champions
Leagues in the afternoon, but it's here in the week.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess they don't run into him as much
to be fair, But see should him that the bird
song with Jim Nance's voice.
Speaker 2: I think we should all, you know, select a golfer
with some crazy odds. All four of us place a bet. Yeah,
I'm down twenty five bucks. Nothing crazy like Sam Burns
right now is plus twelve thousand is daily playing this
year Patrick Reid's plus ten thousand. Shout out you high
can't do it. Why.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I'm just not a
I don't know. I don't know much.
Speaker 2: Tommy Fleetwood plus four thousand, keep going. Give me John
Ron plus thirteen hundred.
Speaker 4: John Ron's a great name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's extra metal, Like I got to say that.
It actually seems like a pretty their best. Well, yeah,
they'll say he's got to be up there.
Speaker 2: Matsuyama, he is plus three thousand. But Speith, uh thirty
five hundred.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna take him.
Speaker 2: You would take Speth.
Speaker 3: I've always liked Spithe about Shuffler. I'm gonna have a
real underdog here.
Speaker 2: Plus four hundred.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's good. Our three necks. We can
win off the bench.