WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:01.320 What the heck is going on here? 2 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:03.399 It's a little bit after five on a Sunday night, 3 00:00:03.839 --> 00:00:06.519 and Gary Jeff's on the radio, not Dan Horde or 4 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:13.960 anybody else. Well, apparently Dan couldn't make it, and you 5 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:17.800 know what, Mike Allen Junior can't make it either. So 6 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:20.719 I'm stuck or you're stuck with me for the next 7 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:22.640 three and a half hours. It's great to be with 8 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:25.440 you on a Sunday night. I would call it a nightcap, 9 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:28.000 and I guess I do kind of because that's what 10 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:32.000 I call my interview shows nightcaps. It's more like a 11 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:35.679 happy hour. So let's get happy, shall we. A guy 12 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:40.039 first up next who is not happy is with the 13 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:47.920 Epstein Justice Plan or whatever Epstein Justice dot com. And 14 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:51.840 he is hoppin mad that we still don't know everything 15 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:56.079 that he thinks they as in the DOJ and FBI 16 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.479 know about not only the death of Jeffrey Epstein, but 17 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:06.120 that that list that now doesn't exist of names. I 18 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:09.079 don't know how much that matters to you and I 19 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:12.760 in our daily life, but a lot of people have 20 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:15.239 a lot of questions that haven't been answered and they're 21 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.120 not happy. So we will talk to Pete Shin coming 22 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:21.680 up in just a moment as we get you going 23 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.120 on a Sunday nightcap, happy hour whatever. 24 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:27.079 Who is this guy in the radio? 25 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:31.879 Anyway, it is a special weekend nightcap here on seven 26 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:35.719 hundred and Joining us for this segment is Pete Shin. 27 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:40.079 He is an associate director of Epstein Justice. He is 28 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:45.879 an Air Force veteran of combat. And we are still 29 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:51.400 in the midst of this nagging controversy that will not 30 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:55.840 go away because people are demanding answers, and they were 31 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.640 told they were going to get answers when President Trump 32 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:02.519 took office. We're still waiting for all those answers as 33 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:07.040 relating to Jeffrey Epstein, what the files hold in store, 34 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:13.479 who possibly would have a motive for killing Jeffrey Epstein 35 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:19.080 in that jail cell in New York and Julane Maxwell 36 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.719 and all of the rest of the little pieces that 37 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:25.479 go into this story. Peach In, Welcome to the show. 38 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:25.960 How are you. 39 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:29.960 I'm well, Thank you, and thanks for having me to 40 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:34.240 talk about this important subject which is only growing more 41 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:35.199 important by the day. 42 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:39.400 Well, all of a sudden, when we were told that 43 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:41.800 there was no list of names, all of a sudden, 44 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:45.280 after Pam Bondi famously or infamously said she had the 45 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:46.639 files right there in her desk. 46 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:49.319 And this is. 47 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:55.039 Seemingly the only thing that Democrats can scrape and scrap 48 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:59.520 and carp about. Now, where were they for four years 49 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:02.280 under j o'biden wanting to get to the bottom of 50 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.800 what happened to Jeffrey Epstein and who was involved in 51 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:10.919 Epstein Island and the Lolita Express and all the rest 52 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:15.879 that we do know about that occurred, the trafficking of 53 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:20.479 underage girls to this island and the involvement of very, 54 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:25.800 very high profile people. Many have been mentioned along the 55 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.280 route over the last eight nine years, including Prince Andrew 56 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:35.199 of Great Britain, Bill Clinton, who went to Epstein Island 57 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:40.120 allegedly twenty eight times. President Trump, for his part, says 58 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:43.199 he never went to the island. He was friends at 59 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.879 one time with Jeffrey Epstein, they had close relations just 60 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:51.039 because they moved in the same circles, but famously kicked 61 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:54.240 Epstein out of mar A Lago at one point about 62 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:58.759 oh gosh, almost twenty years ago because he didn't like 63 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:03.479 the things that Epstein was doing. I mean, what do 64 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:06.759 we know and what do you know about any of 65 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:08.360 those moving parts. Pete. 66 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.360 Well, these are complicated questions, but what we know for 67 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:18.879 sure is that we were promised by the Trump administration, 68 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:23.600 both before election and then subsequently afterwards, that not only 69 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:27.319 did a list of Epstein clients exists, but in fact 70 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:31.399 one was sitting on the desk of Attorney General Pam BONDI. 71 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:34.079 Then we get a post. 72 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:39.360 Unsigned by the way, an unsigned joint communicate from the 73 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:43.560 Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation on 74 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:47.279 July seventh, saying nothing to see here. We've been through 75 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:50.360 all of the information that we have, which includes hundreds 76 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:53.879 of gigabytes of data on hard drives and I would 77 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:57.240 presume probably terabytes of information. We've looked through all of that. 78 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.839 We've looked through all of the DVDs that we seized 79 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.839 from his New York brownstone. We've looked at all of 80 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:06.800 the electronic surveillance that Jeffrey Epstein himself captured, of all 81 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:09.319 of the people that were with him, and we've determined 82 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.759 that no one did anything wrong except Jeffrey Epstein and 83 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:18.319 Gallaine Maxwell. Well, that strains, that just strains belief, and 84 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:21.600 it beggars belief, and the American people don't believe it. 85 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:24.720 I mean, and that's why there's a political crisis right now. 86 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:29.040 It's and by the way, you mentioned the Democrats leaping 87 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:34.360 onto this political crisis that is basically of the Trump 88 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:38.480 administration's own making, but they're gnashing at the bit to 89 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.360 get involved in this. And here's the thing. This is 90 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:45.240 a bipartisan and nonpartisan issue because I will tell you this, 91 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.160 if the Democrats get what they want and all of 92 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:51.079 the information is released, I don't think the Democrats will 93 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:54.720 look very good, nor will the Republicans. Frankly, this is 94 00:05:54.759 --> 00:06:00.000 why this issue is nonpartisan. Ultimately, what the evidence appears 95 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:05.360 to show is is that human beings of both political 96 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:10.600 persuasions were more than willing to engage in the activities 97 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:15.319 that Jeffrey Epstein was offering them. And so I think 98 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.759 that if the information is allowed to be released, there 99 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.319 are going to be some sacred cow sacrificed on both 100 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:22.079 sides of the aisle. 101 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:26.439 Well, yeah, Merrick Garland probably had the same information Pat 102 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.759 Bondi claimed to have, and there wasn't a peep about 103 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:34.240 this when Merrick Garland was the age was. 104 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:38.519 There certainly not, Nor was there a peep about this 105 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:44.600 in any of the Obama administrations, nor was there a 106 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.560 peep about this in the last Bush administration, which, by 107 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:52.279 the way, was the administration that approved the sweetheart deal 108 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.600 that allowed Jeffrey Epstein to plead guilty to two counts 109 00:06:55.600 --> 00:07:00.199 of soliciting prostitution and register as a sex offender, fight 110 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.519 the fact that he ran what was widely regarded as 111 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.800 the most prolific child sex trafficking network that had ever 112 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:12.000 been uncovered in North America. So yes, what I'm saying 113 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:16.959 is that there are administrations, both administrations from Democrat and 114 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:24.120 Republican administrations, appear to be complicit in covering up associates 115 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.920 of this notorious child sex trafficker. And the question becomes, 116 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.399 why are they covering this up? Who all is involved, 117 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:34.879 and why can't the American people know the facts? And 118 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:39.160 at this point, this is why Epstein Justice and our 119 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.519 website Epstein Justice dot com, We're calling for every American 120 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:44.920 to reach out to their member of Congress and say 121 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:49.040 to them, we want you to form a congressional commission 122 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.360 to investigate all of the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein and 123 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:57.319 those of his known associates and put that information out 124 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.240 there to the American people because the American people will 125 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.319 have a right to know if, for example, that their 126 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:08.839 government was compromised by a multi millionaire who had incriminating 127 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:13.120 photos and evidence of those of politicians and other people 128 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:18.920 in high places in American society. Was he running a 129 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:19.959 blackmail operation? 130 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:20.639 You know? 131 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:25.160 Was he indeed linked to intelligence, as alex Acosta allegedly claimed. 132 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:27.959 You know, alex Acosta's on the board of directors at NEWSMAC. 133 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:32.279 Apparently he could easily be subpoena, easily be questioned under 134 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:36.080 oath about his role in giving Jeffrey Epstein that sweetheart 135 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.120 deal back in two thousand and seven, in two thousand 136 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:42.279 and eight, Why hasn't he been You know, these are questions. 137 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.519 It's a cover up that's hiding and playing sight, and 138 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.279 the American people aren't going to be satisfied with there's 139 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:49.080 nothing to see here. 140 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:49.679 Move along. 141 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.080 We know there's something to see here. We've seen it 142 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:53.879 with our own eyes. We just want to know the 143 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:54.960 details and the facts. 144 00:08:55.720 --> 00:09:02.639 Well, if it is, as you say, a bipartisan, nonpartisan issue, 145 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.919 and people on both sides of the aisle may be 146 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:14.559 involved in Jeffrey Epstein's illicit doings and unforgivable acts of 147 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:21.360 running a child's sex trafficking ring. Then how realistic is it? 148 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.120 Do you think that one or the other is going 149 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:27.840 to fall on their sword and allow this information to 150 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:31.559 come forward? No, that's question one, pete. The second question 151 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.679 I have is is it possible? And this is something 152 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:39.159 that other people have proposed and that I thought about. 153 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:46.360 What if there are many international involvements of leaders around 154 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.480 the world that we're trying to do business with, who 155 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:56.320 deals with and secure intel information from, and these files 156 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:01.279 are being used as leverage in the United States FAI, Well, 157 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:07.240 what is the overriding kind of issue here with If 158 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.600 it's going to be ultimately good for America to withhold 159 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:15.440 some of this because of those international factors and security reasons, 160 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:19.200 then is it worth us being kept in the dark 161 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:20.360 on some of this? 162 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:25.799 Well, that's a legitimate question. The problem is that it's 163 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:29.120 hard to know the answer without seeing the materials, isn't it? 164 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:33.399 And so it's real easy for the federal government to 165 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:36.320 simply say, hey, sorry, this is a matter of national security. 166 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:40.759 Go pounds end, which is typical. Actually, I don't know 167 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:43.000 if you've read my biography, but one of the jobs 168 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:44.639 I had when I was in the Air Force was. 169 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:47.440 I was a liaison officer between the Office of the 170 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:51.200 Secretary of the Air Force and United States Senate appropriators. 171 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:55.720 So I know how it works when Congress wants information 172 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:59.840 from the executive branch and the executive branch is doesn't 173 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:02.799 really want to provide that information. And here's how it works. 174 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:06.480 The executive branch then tells their liaison to the congressional branch, 175 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:09.799 don't tell them about that, And then because you work 176 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.759 for the executive branch, you don't. And so as a 177 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:18.440 practical matter, the executive branch isn't designed to disclose information. 178 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:21.600 The executive branch will always say that disclosure of this 179 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:25.600 information is going to harm national security. The executive branch 180 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:30.159 is not going to release information because from their standpoint, 181 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:34.000 any information could be harmful to national security. That's why 182 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:37.360 we aren't disclosing it. But the reality is that the 183 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:40.639 American people deserve to know whether or not their own 184 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:45.399 government has been compromised by potentially an intelligence asset that 185 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:49.639 has not ever been documented or acknowledged by the United 186 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:53.360 States or or by Macade, if that indeed is who 187 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:57.360 he was associated with, if he was associated with any 188 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:03.159 intelligence organization, we only have the unverified word of Alex 189 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.440 Aposta at this point, who said he was protected by intelligence? 190 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:08.399 What does that mean? 191 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:12.559 Was it true? Did he even say that? There's so 192 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.679 many unanswered questions, And really what it boils down to 193 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:20.879 is are the rights of victims? Is justice for victims? 194 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:23.000 Is that the price that we pay for so called 195 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:26.480 protecting national secrets? If so, I think that's a price 196 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:29.320 that's too high. I think these victims have suffered enough, 197 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:32.399 and I think that it is incumbent upon us as 198 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.559 an American society. 199 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.879 Hello, Pete, Pete, are you the p. 200 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:39.919 That we're willing to pay for national security? 201 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:40.240 Yeah? 202 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.480 You went away for just second, but we got the 203 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:44.159 gist of it. 204 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:49.200 Glaine Maxwell, do you think that she is going to 205 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:51.919 be willing to talk and will we find out what 206 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:56.720 she says? If she is, does it behoove Jelaine Maxwell? 207 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:00.519 Or is she worried about winding up just like Jeffrey 208 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:02.840 Hepstein and that's why she hasn't spoken yet? 209 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:08.759 Another great question, And I guess my answer to the 210 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:12.639 Glayne Maxwell question is simply what we have to gain 211 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:17.759 at this point from telling the truth. You know, she's 212 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:21.480 looking she's right now in jail for twenty years and 213 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.080 she's looking for a way out of out of that 214 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.600 prison cell, and so she has a strong motivation to 215 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:33.559 tell Todd Blanche or whatever other Department of Justice attorney 216 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:36.679 shows up, exactly what it is that they. 217 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:37.120 Want to hear. 218 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.240 Now, the question is, does Todd Blanche or the rest 219 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.879 of the department Department of Justice, are they actually interested 220 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.399 in the facts, because they can very easily get from 221 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:52.279 Glainne Maxwell a statement that only Jeffrey Epstein and I 222 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.080 were involved in this trafficking network that the Department of Justice, 223 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:59.879 by its own admission says, I'm molested over a thousand victims, 224 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:03.080 just me and jeff Those are the only two people 225 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:06.000 they can get her to say that. They can get 226 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.559 her to say Prince Andrew was involved, Bill Clinton was involved, 227 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.039 President Trump was not involved. They could get her to 228 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:15.600 say that. They could get her to say everybody was involved. 229 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.360 They can get her to say anything they want because 230 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:22.159 they have the power of freedom. They have they have 231 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:25.879 the power of freedom and liberty over her. So unfortunately, 232 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.720 I don't necessarily think that we're going to be able 233 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.960 to trust anything that Dwayne Maxwell has to say, because 234 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:34.960 keep in mind, the only reason that she doesn't already 235 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:38.080 have a plea deal is because both she and the 236 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:39.399 government agreed. 237 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:42.919 First of all, she maintained that she was completely innocent 238 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:43.679 of any of these. 239 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.240 Crimes all throughout her trial, and by the way, the 240 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.000 government only brought four witnesses against her, so it was 241 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.240 really a sham. Trell she should be put away for 242 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:54.480 the rest of her life instead of twenty years. The 243 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:57.519 point is she is put away for twenty years, and 244 00:14:57.639 --> 00:14:59.960 right now, the only chance she has of a state 245 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:04.200 that prison cell any earlier is if President Trump officer 246 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.960 clemency or a pardon. And so, uh, if it were 247 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.279 if I were in her shoes, I would say anything 248 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:12.840 that any attorney who had the power to make that 249 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:16.759 recommendation came to me and asked me to say, so. 250 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:18.360 What are you recommending again? 251 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:23.799 You want a special legislative committee to subpoena who is 252 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:25.080 to subpoena who. 253 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:29.759 Well, let's start with alex Acosta, but then let's also 254 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.080 go ahead and subpoena subpoena the other attorneys that were 255 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:37.320 involved in Glene Maxwell's prosecution. Let's uh, let's subpoena William 256 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.279 Jefferson Clinton. Uh, Let's let's subpoena all of the names 257 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:42.480 that we know that. 258 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:45.360 Flew with him on his flight logs. Let's find out 259 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:46.240 what happened. 260 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:51.120 Uh, you know, let's disclose the information that was discovered 261 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:55.519 and seized on Jeffrey Epstein's hard drives. I know that 262 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:59.120 the that the current contention is that it's all child pornography. 263 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:02.759 It cannot be released, and frankly, I don't think the 264 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:03.840 American people buy that. 265 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:06.840 So I think there's a lot of. 266 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.399 Information that can be investigated, many people that can be 267 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:12.720 questioned that haven't been under oath, and I think that 268 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:14.559 the only way that you're going to get a fair 269 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.639 and impartial investigation is if there is a bipartisan, truly 270 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.120 bipartisan effort to get to the bottom of this. And 271 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:24.559 it's possible that members of Congress have been compromised, but 272 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:29.480 I have to hope and believe that there aren't fifty 273 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.600 one percent of the Members of Congress that have been 274 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:36.679 compromised by this sort of honeypop operation, if that's what 275 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:40.000 it was. And I believe that still in the United States, 276 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:44.759 that we're a representative republic that actually is responsive to 277 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:48.480 its citizens. Maybe I'm naive, but we at epsteinsice dot 278 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.879 com believe that if enough citizens apply pressure to enough lawmakers, 279 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:55.639 that at least fifty one percent of them will want 280 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:59.440 to see the facts, because we cannot have a society 281 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:00.000 that is. 282 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.200 Run by secret elites who. 283 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.079 Get to do whatever they want, including scooping your kids 284 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.960 off the street streets to molest them with impunity. 285 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:12.680 Amen on that. I'm totally in lockstep with you there. 286 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:17.200 So your call tonight is to the American people, to 287 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:23.400 anybody listening, to urge their elected representative, be a congressman 288 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:28.200 or a senator, to make this a matter of first priority. 289 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:30.720 There are a lot of other There are a lot 290 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:32.839 of other irons in the fire. There are a lot 291 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:36.160 of other pots on the stove. Why is this the 292 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:37.920 most important issue to you? 293 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:43.880 That's great question, and the answer is simply this. There 294 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:49.720 are indications that Jeffrey Epstein was running an intelligence operation 295 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:55.440 designed to collect incriminating information on US politicians and other 296 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:59.400 powerful people. We need the facts to prove that that 297 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:03.799 was the case, frankly, because right now that seems as 298 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.240 likely a situation. 299 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:06.880 As anything else. 300 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.039 And if that was the case, then we're not living 301 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:12.559 in a free country. Then we're living in a country 302 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:14.240 that is secretly run. 303 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:15.559 By intelligence services. 304 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:18.559 And I don't think any American believes that that's the 305 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:20.799 way that the United States ought to be run. And 306 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:23.319 if there's even a chance that that's the way that 307 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:27.200 we are being run, we need to unmask that, expose it, 308 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.319 and bring it to the light of day. And if 309 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:32.640 that's not the case, and if in fact, this was 310 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:37.440 just two sick people who somehow managed to abuse over 311 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.440 a thousand people without anybody else knowing, Hey, the American 312 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.279 people need to know that for sure as well. And 313 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:48.279 for all these reasons, we're urging every human being in 314 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:51.160 the United States, every citizen, to call your member of 315 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:55.839 Congress and urge them to investigate this matter thoroughly, fully 316 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:59.319 and in a nonpartisan, a nonpartisan fashion. 317 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:03.160 I'm becoming more and more aware, as many others are, 318 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.880 that we have no idea who was actually the executive 319 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:10.119 from twenty one to twenty five as president of the 320 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:16.559 United States, which I suspected all along, and that means 321 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:20.680 that we're not living in a free, constitutional republic either. 322 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:24.359 I mean, we're waking up to a lot. And this 323 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.359 is the latest clarion call. I appreciate your time tonight 324 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:34.160 and Epstein Justice dot Com that is correct. All right, 325 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:39.640 fantastic Peachin. Thank you so much great information, and I 326 00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:41.599 don't know you may have turned. 327 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:47.519 Me well, Hey, I am. I'm delighted to be with 328 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:49.759 you this evening. Thanks so much for having me, and 329 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.480 I'm happy to discuss any updates anytime. 330 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:54.359 All right, I will keep that in mind. 331 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:57.839 It's the night Cap and it continues on seven hundred WLW, 332 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.480 especially well Sunday night cat A seven hundred WLW. 333 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:04.960 Glad to welcome. 334 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:07.720 Back our friend Steve Gorm, Executive director of the Client 335 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:12.920 Science Coalition of America, author of the Mad Mad Mad 336 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:17.480 World of Climatism, Outside the Green Box, Green Breakdown, the 337 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:22.319 most recent becoming Renewable Energy Failure, and all kinds of 338 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.920 stuff this past week in the news that we need 339 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:27.640 to cover, Steve. So let's get right on to it 340 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:29.559 if you don't mind. Good evening, How are you. 341 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:33.000 Hi, Gary, Jeff doing great? Great to join you again. 342 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:40.279 First and foremost, the new director of the EPA, Lee Zelden, 343 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:43.839 said that he was ending last week said that he 344 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:46.799 was ending the What was it that lee Zelden is 345 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.279 putting a stop to that has been a hindrance to 346 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:51.960 us pursuing the energy that. 347 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:57.559 We need and endangerment finding. Okay, back on December seventh, 348 00:20:57.640 --> 00:20:59.720 two thousand and nine, a date that will live. 349 00:20:59.640 --> 00:20:59.880 An in. 350 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:06.880 Like Pearl Harbor, the EPA rule that greenhouse gases were 351 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.119 endangering the health and welfare of US citizens. And that 352 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:13.359 was after the EPA was sued by a number of 353 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:16.279 states and the Supreme courtinated ruling that they had to 354 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:21.319 make a ruling, and the endangerment finding and led to 355 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:23.920 everybody calling carbon dioxide a pollutant and has been the 356 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:29.799 basis for much of the climate regulation over the last 357 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.880 two decades or so decade and a half. But mister 358 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.039 Zelton says he's going to roll that back now, great, 359 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:38.960 really a big change. 360 00:21:39.319 --> 00:21:41.480 Well, yeah, you and I have talked about this so 361 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:47.200 many times. CO two is a necessary component of our biosphere, 362 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:52.200 in our atmosphere. It is not a pollutant per se. 363 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:58.759 It's not harmful to humans and wildlife in the form 364 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:02.720 that we have it now in our atmosphere. And we're 365 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:05.759 certainly at no dangerous tipping point when it comes to 366 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:09.480 the amount of CO two that is in that atmosphere. 367 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:12.960 And that's all correct, and it's backed up by solid 368 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:14.279 scientific data, right. 369 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:19.759 Steve, Yeah, it's very very small. It's if you picture 370 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:23.839 a big basketball arena with ten thousand fans, only four 371 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:27.680 and every ten thousand molecules in the atmosphere are carbon dioxide. 372 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.839 The amount that human industry could have added in all 373 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:32.960 of our history is a fraction of one of those 374 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:38.319 ten thousand molecules. Very very small. It's not Earth's biggest 375 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.720 greenhouse gas, which is water vapor. It is one of 376 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.599 the three substances in the world that are essential for life, 377 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:49.039 the other two being water and oxygen. Water oxygen carbon 378 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:52.160 dioxide are essential and we each breathe out about two 379 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:55.960 pounds of carbonoxide every single day and it makes the 380 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:59.680 plants grow. So it's you know, we're living in a 381 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:02.720 world here driven by the fear man made warming, driven 382 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:06.960 by climatism, And mister Zelton is introducing some common sense 383 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:11.240 back into regulation. And I think the EPA wants to 384 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.960 regulate real pollutants that can cause harm, but CO two 385 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:15.920 is not one of those. 386 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:19.839 I read once and tell me if you can corroborate 387 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:24.559 this that the Mount Pinatubo explosion volcanic explosion in the 388 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:30.240 Philippines in the early nineties released more particulate into the air, 389 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:34.319 including CO two than had ever been released in the 390 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:38.319 history of humankind on this planet. Is that along the 391 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:41.240 lines of being correct a correct statement. 392 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.319 Well, I'm not sure that is. I think it did. 393 00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:50.799 It was enough to cause some local changes. I think 394 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:54.279 it the other things that the volcano put out caused 395 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:57.559 some local cooling. And we have said had some volcano 396 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:00.160 volcanic eruptions in the past. There was something in the 397 00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.200 I'm trying to remember. I think it was a volcano 398 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:07.720 in Indonesia in the sixteen or seventeen hundreds that actually 399 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:10.799 caused the world to cool over the next summer. It 400 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:15.279 put out so much ash into the atmosphere and they 401 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:17.599