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Bear Bachmeyer, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls address the
media yesterday.
Speaker 1: Let's see what he had to say.
Speaker 3: Bear, how do you how did you come out health
wise versus Texas Tech?
Speaker 4: Yeah, came out came out healthy and yeah, feeling good.
Speaker 1: Short and sweet, baby, short and sweet to the point,
what do you look at? Bear? Have you have you
sized him up yet? I?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not like, who is the first coast they played?
Looks like a darned centaur?
Speaker 1: Yeah, gosh, dang centai. Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, he's a good good Uh you know, like I said,
he's pretty steady. Uh, and not doesn't seem to get rattled,
you know very much. It just stays pretty consistent and
just call its plays and and doesn't go it get up,
and it doesn't really get down on on bad performances externally.
Obviously you don't know what what he's battling in between
his ears and and uh, you know, a kid that
comes from that kind of background of a very competitive
upbringing of a family of athletes, and you know, probably
some criticism from from his folks on how to do
things right and how to how they're not done right.
And uh, you know, I've I've been impressed with him
up to this point. You know, I will see if
he does have the you know, break off the rear
view mirrors and just moves forward and continues to perform
the way he did the first eight games and to
the rest of the season.
Speaker 6: Win this thing out.
Speaker 3: Love that Bear Blochmart What did you learn from the
game that you didn't learn from the previous eight games?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just you know, when we played great teams,
you know, for example, yeah, Texas Tech and and you know,
we get ourselves in a hole and and you know,
so times you can can't dig yourself out of that
that hole against great teams and so, uh, he's gonna
start faster.
Speaker 3: Gotta start faster, gotta be better, you know. You know what,
what lessons do you think can be learned from it?
Like to me, like when you go back and look
at if you're bare, you trying to put yourself into
bear shoes, what lessons are learned from Lubbock?
Speaker 5: That I mean that that I mean I think that
he was not going through his progressions like he was
in the first eight games.
Speaker 3: He was I don't know if there was opportunity to
even go through progressions quite honestly, because like they had
to have seven man pros just to get enough time
for him to get through a two man route.
Speaker 5: Come then they saw the replays and a couple of
them there was guys wide open on the out, you know,
on that on he threw short and he had he
had he had kingston al wide over on the flat,
and I was like, oh, that was You're gonna want
that one back. So those I think of just being
able to that's reset. Let's go through our progressions how
we did the first three games. Be confident and are
be confident in your offense? And heck, offensive line. You
gotta step up. You gotta give us more time. You
got to you gotta establish the run and give us
some run game first, So those safeties aren't just coming
downhill all day.
Speaker 1: Were they getting beat more off speed or power?
Speaker 3: And there's a difference, right, I know four s equals
mass times acceleration, But were they Was they offense only
getting beat more to off of speed or power?
Speaker 5: I mean it looks like both to me, because they
were getting the tackles, were getting beat off the edge,
and they were getting pushed.
Speaker 6: Up front, so that that's both.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just that they were just you know,
like I said, I I don't I think that they
were not I don't want to say overconfident. I think, you know,
Clonie keeps some humble and making sure they understand who
they are as players and as a team as a hole.
Speaker 6: And that everybody needs to contribute.
Speaker 5: But I think they just got outmatched, not only on
the field, but I think coaching as well. They just
got the They got out play called, they got out strategized,
and on special teams just flopped.
Speaker 1: I think there was a number of opportunities.
Speaker 3: Sake, if he goes back and he looks like getting
it out to the checkdown, like dumping it off earlier
probably would have benefited because there were seven man drops
and so the second level defenders were dropping into eight, nine, ten, eleven,
twelve yard territory. You dump it off to LJ, you
could probably pick up four or five if it's early Carson.
Speaker 1: Right, but you're running that.
Speaker 5: But you're running that on third down, right, they were
trying to establish a run. They were trying to run
run plays person second down, then they had third and
twelve because they didn't couldn't stablish couldn't establish a run.
They're playing from behind the ten yard might and third
down they're don't run a checkdown on third down?
Speaker 6: Yeah, now you got you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 5: It was that happened I think probably four four times
where they were, you know, playing from behind, playing from
third and long and then through the checkdown.
Speaker 6: Like what what is that going to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, well that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, I do think there was opportunities within like first down,
second down, when they did decide to throw on first
and second down, where you maybe get to your progression
and you're dump off a little bit quicker because it
is so muddled. It is so mucky that second and
third level. You're like, all right, dude, I'm just gonna hate.
There's space there.
Speaker 6: You saw it.
Speaker 1: There's space LJ chips and then he floats out to
the flat.
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, you can give it to him anyway.
I think there's opportunity. I also think getting linear in
the run game, you know, Bear just needs to get linear.
Speaker 1: When you're playing on turf is different when you then
when you're.
Speaker 3: Playing on grass, get linear and just you know, you
may lower your shoulder there and and see if you
can pick up three, four, five yards rather than zero yards.
Speaker 6: You gotta get pushed up front, gotta get a little
bit boo boys got it. Big boy's gotta get moving.
That's that's I mean.
Speaker 5: That was the kind of the glaring takeaway from me
is the offense line just did not establish their dominance.
And granted, you know, Texas Tech played seven million dollars
for that front line for their defensive line, six spence,
still shouldn't matter.
Speaker 6: Sound We're still put our socks on the.
Speaker 5: Same way, and and still you know, we still got
to match up and be able to get get some
push and you know, even if you're running a zone,
run being know a turn.
Speaker 6: Guys to create some pathways for LJ and Bear.
Speaker 1: To run.
Speaker 3: Number three, Aaron said, Aaron Rodericks said, Bear that you
were hard on yourself.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you always want to compete and
and you know you just hate losing, and so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're always gonna gonna look.
Speaker 4: Look back, and you shouldn't you shouldn't harp on it forever.
But you know you kind of you look at the
negatives early on, and you know, kind of get emotional
and but yeah, I then, uh, you just you turn
turn that into gratitude and just being grateful for the moment.
But we just you know, we gotta bounce back.
Speaker 3: Gotta bounce back, no doubt about it. You're gonna be
hard ENUF because you're a competitor and Bear is definitely
a competitor.
Speaker 1: Let's get to number four.
Speaker 3: Year older brother Hank had a similar experience in his
college experience.
Speaker 1: Did he give you any advice after the loss?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's the true test of a man
and a football team is you know how he bounced
back from adversity and and so he's kind of just
been telling me that and and yeah, I mean he's uh,
he's got some some great experience with that and and
uh yeah, I mean we just we just got to
bounce back and you know, obviously learn from it and grow.
Speaker 1: Got to learn and grow.
Speaker 3: How do you, uh, how do you persevere through that adversity?
How do you bounce back? How do you keep moving forward?
That's what Bear's talking about. And it's great to have
mentors and older brothers and and uh and individuals.
Speaker 1: In your life that remind you of that.
Speaker 3: Uh number five does it doesn't sound like the loss
affected your confidence?
Speaker 4: No, no, you yeah, you're learn and grow and and
I mean we're we've we've earned the right to play
with confidence and swagger and so uh you know when
we when we seven between lines, we just we carry
that confidence.
Speaker 6: Got to keep the key right there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just keep all moving well, just and not letting
that identify You're not letting that take a chip away
at your confidence or your swagger and all those things
that you established and you work so hard all summer long,
all season long to establish that. And just because one
you know, one performance where things didn't come together the
way you expected or where you planned or the whether
you prepared that just kind of fell apart there between
the hashes. That that that doesn't define you. It just
means you know, you learn.
Speaker 6: From it, you pick up, move on.
Speaker 3: The next game is always the most important game there is.
That mantra going to be tested this weekend against TCU.
Speaker 4: Of course, yeah, you never, you know, you always you
always just want to bounce back and and uh again,
play with confidence and swagger, and so it's what that's
what we got to do on Saturday number seven.
Speaker 1: How urgent?
Speaker 3: How urgent is it to start faster this week than
you have in the past.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's there's always a big emphasis and
you always want to start the game, game off fast,
big game off strong. So it's been hard done.
Speaker 3: Aaron has stated that noise was a factor there in Lobbick.
Why was that or how was that maybe comparatively speaking
to Arizona, East Carolina, et cetera, some of these road opportunities.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just a lot of environment and and
you know a lot of noise and hindered hindered some
you know, some some actions.
Speaker 3: I think Aaron in is Coordinator's corner also mentioned it
was tough to get maybe play calls in because of
that communication. So it's something to work on. Like I said,
like I'm looking at that, you gotta beat TCU. If
you lose the TCU, then you're a two loss team
and you're you're probably you may not be in the
Big twelve championship game. Your probability plummets. But uh, the
SINCI game on the road is is very intriguing to
me because that is going to be rackets as well,
that's gonna be loud, that's gonna be a volatile and
variable environment. And can we be a little bit more
uh efficient in our communication and our play call getting
the play call in so that we can get lined
up and execute.
Speaker 5: Well, that's I mean that that's such a big, you know,
part of getting in rhythm. Like when you're when you
get in rhythm, get the play call in, call it
called call it, can't call it count run to the line,
get the play you know, and when you're kind of
in rhythm and you're getting that play calling in a key,
she went rhythm.
Speaker 6: But when your quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: Sitting over there holding his holding his hands over his ears,
trying to understand, trying to ask you to repeat it
because either the crowd's loud or because there's a communication
issue with the technology whatever it is that messes with
your rhythm and when you're trying to you know, kind
of get in that and like you said, start fast.
That's that's tough to do when you got when you're
trying to fight that rhythm, because because the speed of
play and that consistent rhythm and how you get into it.
Speaker 6: It definitely affects how you get going.
Speaker 1: Ronald the three man Weaver, what do you got for me?
Speaker 7: Look, I think you both would agree with me on this,
and I need Kilanie and the staff not to do this.
Stop taking unnecessary timeouts like that can't happen in this game.
Speaker 1: If you want to make a statement bounce back.
Speaker 7: There are moments with the play call where they're at
like eleven seconds and maybe the timeouts should be called,
and they let it get down to three and they
don't know and they call it like they have to
do a better job of having the play call like
this has happened too much this season and Franklin in
the Klonie Air in the last couple of seasons, well,
timeouts are burned and it shouldn't be burned. So I
don't know what they have to do to fix that.
But either Bear doesn't know the check or a Rod
wants check. But Ben, I've seen too many at home
and watching the games on a row where timeouts are
used and you don't necessarily need to use it there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, as you guys are kind of
discussing this and we're talking about lubbek and lessons learned
and and you know, the noise factor, all these things.
Like my natural tendency, as you know, with all the
football knowledge that I can, I can have in this small, tiny,
you know, brain of mine, when it's loud, it's rockeus.
It's variable, it's volatile. Like my natural tendency is to
go very simplistic with options. And by that means I
tend to want to go like RPO, right, I tend
to want to give simplistic calls that are replicable that
you everyone's associated with go tempo, simplicity with options.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah?
Speaker 5: But then that RPO where he had it in his hand,
gave it when he should have pulled it, and that
would have been I mean, he could have broke that
so far that when I saw that, like the tempo.
Speaker 3: Component of it as well, because once you kind of
get into a cardiovascular state, it's harder to like, look,
there's pros and constable settling in getting into a huddle, communicating,
walking up, you know, owning the time, owning the tempo.
Speaker 1: In that way, there's that's what b what you's done.
Speaker 3: I also think there's like in the wild, rackous environment
where you're struggling, like simplifying with options and going tempo,
you get into this cardiovascular state.
Speaker 1: Where you don't have to think about anything.
Speaker 3: You react, and when you react, like when you're an athlete,
it's kind of like when you're when you're golfing right,
sometimes you're just like be an athlete and swing the
freaking club. Shorten up your swing and just swing and
focus on the contact. And I feel like BYU, when
they did go tempo and they weren't having to necessarily
think through things and there is options within that play
that they've repped out, they tended to find more success
in moving the football. I'm not saying you go full
board on that because you have a game plan, you
have a script, you're gonna try to abide by it
because that's what you've executed. But when things get a
little bit rough and tumble, it may be wise to simplify.
It's kind of like the ASU game versus h Jake
Retslov versus Issue in the second half, they simplified and
they went tempo, and Jake was just like not thinking right.
Speaker 5: Because you're running plays that you run one hundred times
all through camp and everything.
Speaker 3: You back to the basics and you're tempoing, so you,
like the opponent can't switch up and match your personnel
as much if they want to switch things up, you
may have caught them in a personnel grouping that is advantageous.
Speaker 1: For you because of your temple.
Speaker 6: Well, and that's what I think they did a great
job on that.
Speaker 5: On that rune when they came down, they come up
call it and then look to the sideline and get
to play from the.
Speaker 1: Check with you have the matchup, you can go with
a check with me offense.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with a check with me offense, like if
you if you go out on the road with versus Cincinnati.
And it also kind of like for the opponent's crowd,
like when you get into sequencing of play calls, like
it gets louder as they come out of the huddle,
right if you're temp of the other student section, if
you're tempoing like it, it becomes a little.
Speaker 1: Bit like they're not.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, the the Army of the Battle
of Joshua in the Battle of Jericho, right where, you know,
they can't do that.
Speaker 1: They don't know how to. They don't have the VO
two max. They're all drunk.
Speaker 3: They're all drunkards in the stands. You know, they can
only go so long they're intermittent in their vo two.
Speaker 1: Got to stop and take a drink. They canna buy
it us up anyway. Uh, number ten, you mentioned bouncing back.
What does that look like execution wise? Bear, Yeah, I
mean it.
Speaker 4: Was kind of, you know again, it was kind of
an anomaly of what we are. I mean, you know,
I've I've felt like we've done a great job of
executing and and you know, just being who we are,
and and uh, you know whatever reason.
Speaker 6: Kind of just.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, I don't I don't want to
say we we shied away. You know, we just we
just weren't playing our game, and so you know, be
back back home LS and and uh just just got
to play by a football.
Speaker 6: He identified it.
Speaker 5: There was some shine away, there was that moment where
this is this is this is too big?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little.
Speaker 5: I mean, as long as, like you said, you identify it,
take ownership and learn from what move on.
Speaker 3: As far as the TCU defense is concerned, are they
similar to any teams you faced already?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, uh, you know a little b Iowa
stayed in there, and and but I mean it's it's
a it's a very intricate defense, and and uh coach
Avis is a great job of scheming up and so
uh we just we got to come ready to play.
Speaker 3: Gotta bring it, gotta bring the fuego. Some similarities with
Iowa State, he says. Number twelve, how much are you
looking forward to being at home after being on the
road for so long?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be great to be in front of
less and then the Rock and Kugarnation.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Thirteen.
Speaker 3: Because of your ties to Boise State, do you know
uh Andy Avolos at all?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a cool story.
Speaker 4: Uh uh he was he was amrad of Valley one
time and uh he was, uh he was the DC
at Boise and and uh yeah, I was in I
was in the Hamburger and uh he was. He said
that that hamburger looks good and so just that. Yeah,
but yeah, and he coached coach Hank as well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, coach Hank and coach Ovolos. Who's coach Hank?
Speaker 1: He was saying he coached Tank.
Speaker 3: Oh he coached Tank. Oh okay, okay, yeah that Oh
that's right, Hank Bachmeyer's older brother. Oh yeah, he coached
Tank as well. So Andy, uh is their defensive coordinator.
Former head coach of Boise State Kelly Papink actually coached
on that same staff a couple of years ago in
two thousand, in twenty two.
Speaker 1: I believe. So anyway, some history, some mystery there, some
history there, all right.
Speaker 3: That that's our segment, little player profile, getting no Bear Bachmeyer,
his thoughts, his commentary on this Cougar football team, any
other thoughts commentary Before we wrap up that segment, Dustin Richer,
former b YU great left tackle.
Speaker 6: Like I said, off at the lines, guys show up
for him.
Speaker 5: They gotta protect him and allow him to do his
thing and allow him to feel comfortable go through his
progressions and if he needs to get off the ball
and go go run the ball for the first second
down and pick up those three four yards. Then they've
got to give him that confidence that he's gonna get.
Speaker 6: It every time. I think maybe in the touch push.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm down with a touch push, honestly.
Speaker 3: And you know what we used to be able to
do in high school and college football with like premier
pass rushers.
Speaker 1: You used to be able to chop lock.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't do that no more. And we used to,
Oh that was that we.
Speaker 5: Spent Roger Frien, Jamike Campi spent a lot of time
teaching us how to time it, how to shoot for
that that thigh pad, how to you know, you're not
trying to take a dude's knee out, but if he
comes and you're at that level and he doesn't move,
get his hands down.
Speaker 6: That was a hole.
Speaker 5: If you're running a slam pattern across the middle, you
gotta get his hands down. And he's got a lot
of knockdown passes. So that chop block was was pretty important.
But I can't do that no more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great way to stemy and slow
the pass rush or get hands down in your three
step quick step.
Speaker 1: Sometimes your screen game. Yeah, and now you can't do
it anymore.
Speaker 5: It's, you know, one of those things they just what's
it called the what'sification of this generation?
Speaker 6: I've heard that a couple of times.
Speaker 1: On here my phone.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, like getting shot blocked by like wide receivers.
They always try to do it too, Like TCU tried
to do it, Air Force tried to do it. You
Evade did it, and they just they throw themselves right
at your freaking legs.
Speaker 1: So you're like kind of juking and giving because you
know it's coming.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean, it's slowing you're it's
an is taking you off the path while you're you're
you know where you're trying to meet the ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember one time. I think it was you of
A seven. I can't remember, or was it TCU. I
have to go back and check tape. It was he
kind of got me, but he didn't shot me, but
I kind of like stopped, you know how you're like
taught to like throw hands and like and then shoot
your legs back, and he kind of so he had
me stopped for a second. I was ticked that he
got me because typically it was pretty good about avoiding it,
and he had kind of rolled up and he was
kind of looking at me, so I like grabbed his face.
Speaker 1: Mess I hit it a few times, shoved it. Remember
that I shoved.
Speaker 3: It him to the round like two or three times
before I before I took off because I knew the
sideline judge couldn't see me. I mean he saw me
kind of cranking on it maybe, but didn't get eyes on.
You have to have you have to have a line
of sight. I wish I should have poked him in
the eyes, like.
Speaker 5: Like you know, Cicanic man Cicanic was. There was a
devious one at that he would get fingers on eyes
all day.
Speaker 6: He loves it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't. I never got into it.
Speaker 3: Like I just didn't have enough opportunity to poke anyone's eye.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was something he took pride in.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 6: It was just the craziest thing. Is like I will
poke your eyes.
Speaker 1: I will, I will, I will jab my claws.
Speaker 5: And you're like he was so funny about because they
would would he would have to go out of the game.
If you have a sloppy, fat finger in your eyeball
and it's ripping through your corneat. You got to get
out of the game for a couple of plays. It's
just I mean it was. It was a tactic that
not many people were willing to do. But Jason's can
God bless you. You would you would get after those eyeball.
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into the number five is the stat of the day.
Ryan McGee of ESPN recently wrote in an article titled
college Football Button or Bottom ten College football bottom ten
after week eleven BYU, come on down, so look hop
on the now, I head said, real quick, Brett, always
bringing the hare because I think you read through this entirety.
Speaker 1: We have an excerpt of it.
Speaker 3: It's entitled number five b y who BYU is eight
and one? And I need probably either like I may
need a urim and dumbam to interpret this, like I
don't understand this. I may need someone that's much smarter
than me reading through this to help me understand what
he's actually saying. He says, this legend has it that
after the Angel Morone, I showed Joseph Smith the golden
plates upon which the Mormon Church was founded. He also
warned Smith to make sure to heed the oft forgotten
inscription located on the scratched up backside of the plates,
and I quote, beware the coveted fifth spot lest it
bites you in the behind in Lubbock. What's the thesis
of this article? And and what is he talking about here?
Do you know, Brett? Have you been able to dissect this?
Speaker 1: So can you? Guys? Got me? Ron, I don't know
if this headset's working all right?
Speaker 9: Perfect, So as you could probably imagine there has been
a little bit of a social uproar from BYU fans
who are not sure whether to be offended confused what
the emotion to attach to this is, Sir, Ryan McGee
has actually tweeted out and responded to BYU fans. Now,
I'm gonna preface this with this explanation, and this justification
doesn't actually we make anything make more sense, but just
so you know that Ryan McGee has seen the outrage.
Speaker 1: And he has now.
Speaker 3: Ryan McGee is a senior writer with ESPN, the magazine.
This is from Once upon a Time, and he's been
writing for ESPN since like nineteen ninety four, working on
the production staff of the show RPM two Night.
Speaker 9: He has a TV show on Saturday mornings on SEC Network.
Like he is an intelligent human being. He does packages
for game but he's a smart guy.
Speaker 3: Which yeah, so he's been doing this for a minute.
Was born in Rockingham, North Carolina, the son of Dave
Dave Anyway, he's the author of the ESPN Ultimate Nascar
so he's into that too. Anyway, that's a little that's
a brief bio of Ryan McGee.
Speaker 9: So this is Ryan McGee's response to YU fans quote
story I've told on Marty and McGee twenty times, which
again is his SEC Network show that goes on Saturday mornings.
Something my father said to me at Sunday school pointed
to a poster of holding the Ten Commandments and said
there was an eleventh commandment on the back of the tablets.
Speaker 1: People forget about thy shall not be a jerk.
Speaker 9: Now, I'm no scriptorian writer or anything like that, but
I'm pretty sure it would be thou shalt not be
a jerk. But again, this is us trying to make
What confuses me is like, Ryan McGee is a smart guy.
Speaker 1: He's a very good writer. I thought this article was
written by some bozo at Barstool Sports.
Speaker 9: The way that this article is written and you elaborated
you read it earlier, doesn't really make any sense. And
Ryan mcgeese now seems to have doubled down with an
explanation that I don't know really explains or makes sense
about anything. I don't there's a lot of people who
are offended. There's a lot of people who are saying
this is bigotry. I don't think it's bigotry. I just
think it's idiotic. I don't think it makes a whole
lot of sense, and it's a lot about the fifth
spot is what the art the point of BYU was
really about. But he doesn't really talk about the fifth
spot and what that actually means in this.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I am a little bit confused.
Speaker 5: I got a little history here. So the Deseret News
background was playing in two thousand and two, we were
not very good, and that was the caption, and the
Deseret knows by who.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so the title of b y who right
that that's fine.
Speaker 5: I don't understand, right, but I'm saying, but that's but
I think the writer of that and this clown are
both their own little like behind the curtain, trying to
take their jab at BYU, the culture, the religion, the
I mean, obviously this guy was was not playing his
best card and his writing style and how he put
this forward and explaining but you know this, this phrase,
the b y Q has been used quite a bit
when when we have not been playing to our potential.
Speaker 6: But this guy's a clown.
Speaker 3: Well this is the thing, like it doesn't make any sense,
like college football bottom ten after week eleven, so he's
like on the list you have UMass at oh to nine,
Nevada at one and eight, Georgia State not southern one
and eight.
Speaker 1: I have context Charlotte.
Speaker 3: One in eight, Boston College one and nine, Oklahoma State
one and eight, Middle Tennessee State one and eight, Oregon
State two and eight. I'm not smart, like, I'm just
trying to figure out what the context of Sam Houston
one in eight so like, and then by US SETA
BYUS eight and one by who.
Speaker 9: So this is a quote explaining what the ESPN Bottom
ten article is about. One of the running gags of
the bottom ten is the quote highly coveted number five spot.
This spot is the typically reserved for the top FBS
blunder of the week, a normally strong football team that
found itself on the wrong end of an upset the
prior week.
Speaker 1: An example would bottom ten be. So it's it's basically saying, like,
the best.
Speaker 9: Team in the FBS who had a really bad moment
that weekend, gotcha?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm fine with that. Context matters, and that's what
I was trying to get out. I need someone that
is familiar with his writing, yeah, and what he does
with you know, with this.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then it's b y who So he was.
Speaker 6: Your your theorem, you're you're, you're.
Speaker 3: You're my Europe, and yeah, legend has it that after
the Angel Moron. So he's he's it's his own secret
internal joke that nobody.
Speaker 6: Else behind the curtain, laughing to himself.
Speaker 3: So and everyone's like, wait is it beware the covetith
coveted fifth spot, Leston bites you in the behind, and Levey, look,
I have a d D a d h D. Sometimes
I go off on weird odd tangents. Sometimes I think
things are funny when they're not. This is one of
those situations where Ryan McGee did something that nobody else
is laughing at, Like I think there's some out there
that would just laugh at Like it's like if you ever.
Speaker 1: Seen those those Q and a's of.
Speaker 3: People where they tell it like a fake joke and
the people laugh, but like the person telling it.
Speaker 5: Like like Shane, Like Shane at the at them, he says,
here's your here's your your four time uh W NBA
All Star and he's just panned to some random it claps.
Speaker 6: He said, yeah, that wasn't her. I know, you guys
didn't know what people were gonna laugh.
Speaker 3: At it, just because you're poking fun at Mormons because
it's still very kosher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to do with that? Yeah, anyways, that's I say,
his own bendetta. Yeah, I don't think. I don't even
know if he has anything against Latter Day since.
Speaker 3: I just think he was trying to make a funny
joke and and but it doesn't make sense of content.
Speaker 9: It's the fact that it's like a sacred moment for
people of that religion and then you're kind of throwing
a joke in there. I think that's why people are upset,
especially they don't understand it.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't even make sense because no one understands
the inside joke.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting it.
Speaker 3: No one understands the inside joke, Like it's not been
like a build up of everybody knows that that twenty
years ago or growing up for what have you? The
story he told Marty and McGee twenty times. Something my
father said to me at Sunday school pointed to a
poster of Moses holding the ten commands and said there
was an eleventh commandment on the back of the tablets.
People forget about that guy shall not be a jerk.
No one's heard of that joke. No, it's hurd of
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a it istime for a little insider report. BAU Basketball
making moves for their roster next year. That's right, they
picked up a big man, not from the traditional form
in fashion in which they do, not to the traditional funnels.
Speaker 1: They didn't take.
Speaker 3: A high school player, they didn't take a prep school player,
they didn't take a euro League player.
Speaker 1: No, they took a G League player.
Speaker 3: And some people are appalled by some people are taken
back by it, but maybe we'll play a couple.
Speaker 1: I'll play a sound by four you as well.
Speaker 3: Maybe from the Big twelve media days where Kevin Young
was discussing picking up, recruiting acquiring G League players that
have not played on a two way contract, but they
have been paid a pretty penny to do such, to
play basketball professionally. And look, college basketball is professional basketball now,
so don't get it twisted. The guys of amateurism and
the veil of amateurism is taken back.
Speaker 1: It's no longer existing. We all know that it's.
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can compete professionally, and not just the blue blood It's
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Speaker 1: G League center.
Speaker 3: Abdullah Ahman commits to BYU.
Speaker 1: It came down to a little cougar on.
Speaker 3: Cougar fight, Houston Cougars versus the BYU Cougars.
Speaker 1: And b YU won the battle.
Speaker 3: How does that feel Your initial reaction to beating Houston
Cougars in a head to head recruiting battle, Ronald the
three man Weaver.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's amazing. Been that.
Speaker 7: Look, everybody wants to play probably for three programs right now,
maybe actually four. That's Kelvin Sampson and the Houston Cougars,
that's Duke basketball, obviously the Purdue in probably Florida because
they just won. So those are those are some of
the top four programs. So to beat out Houston, who
runs the Big twelve. Yes, don't. I know. I got
into debate with fans a couple of weeks ago about
that Texas Tech b Houston. No, Houston runs this conference.
You have to go through Houston and Calvin Sampson, their culture.
So to beat them out as tremendous. That turn is
starting to turn the page and turn the tides because
they're very good basketball team. Look, they got Isaiah Hartwell,
who was in your backyard, Ben, Sometimes that gets overlooked.
That's a big time prospect. You know who was at Wassatch.
You know, Academy miss out on that. So's to get
this guy who played in the G League.
Speaker 6: It helps.
Speaker 1: And look, I mean I'm not surprised.
Speaker 7: Also, though Kevin Young has the NBA experience, nothing against
Kelvin Sampson and his staff, but they have NBA everything
been nutrition is strength and conditioning, analytics and the staff development.
Speaker 1: So are we surprised? Am I surprised by it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: But initial reaction that's amazing.
Speaker 7: That should be Houston out because you normally lose out
to them.
Speaker 3: So who is Abdullah Achmed? Six foot ten native of Egypt. Okay,
he's a twenty two year old now professional basketball players paid.
Played the last two seasons for the west Chester Knicks,
the G League affiliate of the New York Knicks. He's
averaging four points per game, five point five rebounds, and
eighteen point three minutes per game. This last season, he
averaged five point eight points and six point nine rebounds.
Speaker 1: Of the year before.
Speaker 3: Achmed has been cleared by the NCAA and is expected
to have two years of eligibility, possibly three, We'll see
how it plays out. He's gonna roll at BAU for
the second semester and officially join the of this next
year right the second semester and officially joined the roster
for the twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season. He
chose byus I mentioned over Houston, with other interest from
Missippi State, Auburn in Lesville, and UCLA. So recent NCAA
changes have blurred the line maybe between what has been
so called amateur sports or college athletics and professional athletics.
You have new nil revshare standards. The universities can distribute
TV money too. Players as independent contractors to rep their
brand as athletes.
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
Speaker 3: G League players don't make a ton of money typically
anywhere from like I've seen anywhere from like forty two
hundred and twenty thousand. Now you're saying, hey, that's a
lot of money, Ben, but on average they're not making
the amount of money that you may think. They typically
want to be in the GLEE and have proximity to
the NBA so they can get the call up.
Speaker 1: Like mac McClung. Absolutely like four years.
Speaker 3: Remember Kyle Collinsworts was with the Mavericks and then he
was kind of bouncing back and forth between the G League.
I think he was with maybe the Raptors for a
season or two in their G league Philly, trying to
get the call up, trying to find a spot in
the NBA, and then he eventually took his talents overseas.
It's a path that many are choosing to stay in
the G League.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Some are like, well, I can make a whole heck
of a lot more money in the NCUBA in college
basketball for my two three four years, and so you're
gonna see more of these players play college basketball. We've
seen over the last ten years plus euro League players
who have been paid professionally from fifteen sixteen, seventeen, eighteen
years old nineteen twenty years come over to college basketball
and play college basketball and get their scholarships. You know,
now they can make a little bit extra money too.
I think, you know, depending on visas and depending on
you know, how that works with I know there's some
limitations within NIL. I'm not sure if there's limitations with
foreign players with rev share distribution.
Speaker 1: I'll have to look into that. But look, this is happening.
Speaker 3: London Johnson committed to Louisville, also a G League player,
Bill self, Tom Izzo don't like it.
Speaker 1: They've built ardently against this.
Speaker 3: They don't like it at all, taking up spots of
prep players, high school basketball players. Like, let's not get
a twist of the AU basketball is not great basketball
sometimes and it's all a little bit of a cash
grap for everybody involved.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 3: There's like a lot of things going on within AAU
basketball that needs to be maybe reevaluated at any And
I'm not trying to hit on anyone that coaches locally
with AU. I love all the guys here and they
hop onto our show and things that here, but we
can all agree that there's probably some things that need
to be changed within the AU side of things that
even high school basketball.
Speaker 7: So we've asked Jonathan Tavnari that question, and even Kevin Nixon,
you know, frankly and upright like, we've asked them that
many of times, and they've been openly about what it is.
I mean, JT has been declared that his son has
been asked to go overseas and play, and they've even
entertained it to a degree. I believe he said they
they're not going to do it, but because of the development,
And can I be honestly been if I had a kid,
if and you know, if I had a son, does
I have a daughter your son Malachai? If we wanted
Kai Kai to develop Wolson Kai Kai overseas, like I'm serious,
Like look at Yegor Demon, look at Luka Donkis, look
at Victor Wibby, like look at the development of international
players like reb Popovitch was the master at this. He
got guys that understood the fundamentals of basketball and that
because au it is not just a cash grap They
don't play defense, Ben it's an offensive guru. It's literally, okay,
what offensive guy can go perform the best? And okay,
that recruit is gonna be good. It's not that way.
So I think you bring up a good point with that.
My comment on it, and I stand by this, is
I haven't I have an issue with it if you're
in the G League because it's the G League to
the NBA and more. I have an issue of it,
and you said it if you have a two way contract.
But there need to be rules in NCAA needs to
do something around that. But look, at the end of
the day, the guy's averaging three point five points per game.
He's obviously not doing well enough. Two years of eligibility,
I think is the limit. I'm not gonna rip BYU
because they're not breaking any rules or any other program
that's doing it.
Speaker 1: If you don't like it, get on board.
Speaker 7: That's what I always say is so yeah, I know
Bill self and Tom Mizzil don't like it, and we're
starting to see this has been with Nick Saban.
Speaker 1: The reason why he retired.
Speaker 7: He couldn't get those players, so or built itself and
Tom Izzo upset that maybe the Kevin Youngs and the
Louisville's can do that, and you can. You can't get
those players because if you could get him and put
them on your roster.
Speaker 1: I don't think you would say that.
Speaker 7: I think you would go on the mindset of well
we got them, Like, yes, I know it is taking
spots at is valid, like Aaron Peterson. But look either
I'm just gonna be frank with it. If you're telling
me taking spots like Darren Peterson, he's upset because it's
taking spots away from players like Darren Peterson, other guys
that have the opportunity.
Speaker 3: But my argument to that is this, well, no, but
I mean Darren Peterson, yes, have a spot.
Speaker 7: Sorry, no, but he's he's upset prep prep players like
Darren Peterson. He thinks players like Darren AJ and other
prep players are not gonna get their spots.
Speaker 1: But we're out of that era.
Speaker 7: Ben, if you're not a top fifty recruit, you're not
getting a spot. Like I'm just be honest, Like, if
you're not Darren or Aj and and let me, you know,
explain this better.
Speaker 1: If you're not Darren.
Speaker 7: Aj, Rob Wright, the Richie Saunders are very hard to
come by now, like those guys that get developed to that,
if you aren't a talented player.
Speaker 3: Now, so you're saying the guys that are like developed,
you're not talking about the Darren Peterson's the Aga No.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just I just use that guys
like Prep.
Speaker 7: He's mad that Prep players like Darren who can play,
aren't gonna get a spot.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, if you're not a top fifty recruitment. Like,
let's play a SoundBite from Ky. This was that Big
twelve Meetia days. They just sent it over to you.
His thoughts on, you know, what's the difference between a
G League player and a EuroLeague player? Because the standard
has already been set that you can take euro League
players and everyone's been doing it, b Yu had to
compete versus Gonzaga, who every single year was taking europe
players that had been paid, they were professionals overseas, and
then they come to Gonzagon. They ball out for Gonzagon,
they win West Coast Conference titles, and then they they
they go deep into the NCAA tournament and now we're like, okay, well,
Akamed is originally from the Egypt, but he could have
been playing professionally overseas he came to the G League instead,
and what's the difference.
Speaker 1: Is there any difference?
Speaker 3: Let's play the sound This is Ky at Big twelve
media days discussing the acquisition and the recruitment of G
League players.
Speaker 11: That makes tons of sense to me because it's the
exact same thing as the European players. I don't think that, like,
it's literally the exact same thing. Like now, look, if
you're an NBA guy that's on an NBA contract, I mean,
the G League is no.
Speaker 1: Different than the euro League. It's not the NBA.
Speaker 6: It's right, it's just not.
Speaker 11: Now, if you're on a two way contract and you're
an NBA contract.
Speaker 6: You're an NBA player.
Speaker 11: If you're not, what's the difference of a guy coming
from all these European clubs. So it's the same thing.
So I'm I'm a lot of things that make sense
don't actually happen for me.
Speaker 6: This actually does make sense.
Speaker 1: Now if you want to strip away.
Speaker 11: Both sets of it, okay, great, but that's kind of
how I see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. The G League is no
different than the euro League. There you have it. So
it's hot. Abdulachmed, welcome to Provo. We need a big
man probably next year, No, you do, cape as a senior.
Keb is a senior, so he's got to move on
to uh, you know, I don't know if Cape's going
to go G League, NBA, euro League whatever. He decided
to play professional volleyball. I mean, no, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Many Xavians of projects still I think developing. So you
don't know. So this is a guy that has experience,
so it's a good move.
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Speaker 3: Big man Abdullah Achman has committed to the bau Cougars
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