1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: We go behind the counter with John Murray, the vice 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,799 president of the super Book, brought to you by our 3 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,000 great friends at wager talk dot com for all of 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,320 your betting needs. No better place to be or go 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,400 than wager talk dot com for the latest odds, the 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,640 latest handicapping advice, including our very own Mark o'd'angelo. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: Go to wager talk dot com. John, what's happening, brother? 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:22,679 Not much? 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 3: Man? 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:23,399 Speaker 2: I liked. 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 4: I like this time of year. 12 00:00:25,719 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: It's a chill time. 13 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,399 Speaker 5: I'm ready for Saratoga and Delmar to start, you know, 14 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,839 I like to I like to be losing money early 15 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,240 in the day and just having to just lose all 16 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:34,799 through the day. 17 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 4: That's why I love horse racing. 18 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: You could probably get away too with this time of 19 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,240 year of wearing shorts. 20 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:42,119 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying to the office, Yeah, you 21 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,640 break good. 22 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,719 Speaker 4: You know I'd fire one of my guys if you 23 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:45,799 showed up in shorts. 24 00:00:46,359 --> 00:00:48,799 Speaker 5: That's a professional mark when I say, though, you guys 25 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,799 are good. No casual Friday, well you never know who 26 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,320 might want to show up. And the talk I get 27 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,759 pulled into a meeting casual Friday, well, you know there's 28 00:00:57,759 --> 00:00:59,880 no tho. Those things a Friday in the casino business. Mark, 29 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,640 I'm here tomorrow. I'm here tomorrow, big UFC event. 30 00:01:04,719 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: I hit a lot of times on Sunday too. 31 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: All NFL season. 32 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:11,439 Speaker 5: I'm here someday, absolutely, But yeah, during the summer months, 33 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,719 I don't come in on Sundays. 34 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,599 Speaker 1: You're entitled. Man, you're gonna get that del Mar trip. 35 00:01:16,599 --> 00:01:19,280 You're gonna get your watching DC trip in before you know, 36 00:01:19,599 --> 00:01:20,599 preseason football. 37 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: Get right away, and I'm ready for I'm ready to 38 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:23,319 get to del Mar. 39 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,359 Speaker 3: We should do some live remotes from del Mar. 40 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't you hook it up for us, mister 41 00:01:29,239 --> 00:01:31,159 horse Man. That's a good idea. You do that, a 42 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:31,599 good show. 43 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: He doesn't want to be in. 44 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,079 Speaker 1: Actually, probably could do it. We could probably do it 45 00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:37,879 from Double B's box right there at the finish line. 46 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: Could probably. 47 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,439 Speaker 3: I can get a little loud about every forty minutes though. 48 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:43,079 Speaker 2: Which is well when we do the show here, like 49 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,280 it would be a lot loud. Not in my box. 50 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 5: You know, it's just people yelling at each other about 51 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:51,920 the picks, right, you know, there's no fun. 52 00:01:52,359 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: See the problem pick. 53 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: The problem is that John with Marco, especially if you 54 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,799 go opening day, they're opening weekend Delmar. 55 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,959 Speaker 2: He gets a little distract with the eye candy. 56 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,239 Speaker 5: Well that every Friday nights like that. I mean, I 57 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,959 know what you mean, but I don't do opening day. 58 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: It's too crazy. 59 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, but I mean I think every Friday 60 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:12,120 night of the track, there's a lot of scene around there. 61 00:02:12,439 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: The best sight I ever saw at an opening day 62 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:19,360 at del Mar there was, you know, this hot looking blonde. 63 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: I'll be honest. 64 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: She had black, tall, black dress, short, you know, and 65 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,879 I'm doing the scan down legs forever, and then I 66 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,800 got to her ankle. She had an ankle bracelid on. 67 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:38,639 Sounds like a nice girl, but I don't know, it's 68 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,159 probably you know, hey, it's opening day. I guess you're allowed, you. 69 00:02:42,039 --> 00:02:45,879 Speaker 2: Know, to leave the premises opening day. You know what 70 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:47,759 she was telling you, Marco, there's a chance. 71 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,599 Speaker 4: Sounds like somebody were fixing to me. Don't always trying? 72 00:02:54,479 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: Oh sounds nice, all right. 73 00:02:57,319 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: The NBA season comes to inn last Sunday night. We 74 00:02:59,719 --> 00:03:02,120 haven't chance to talk to you, John since last Friday 75 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,080 with that game number seven. Unfortunate for some people that, 76 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:09,039 especially with the way Tyrese Halliburton went down with that, 77 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,199 and no one wants to see that. So how'd the 78 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,080 finals play out for you? Specifically the Game seven? 79 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: We did great. 80 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 5: I mean it was It was very unfortunate what happened 81 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,680 with Halliburton, obviously, but we took a lot of money 82 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:23,240 in Indiana plus seven and a half, took some big 83 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,639 bets Indiana money line the day of the game, and 84 00:03:26,719 --> 00:03:28,840 we already had that big future position that we talked about. 85 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,840 We needed the thunder and our best case scenario was 86 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,439 the thunder covering the game going under obviously thunder of 87 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,360 futures cashing. 88 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:39,639 Speaker 4: We got them all. We got everything we needed. 89 00:03:40,199 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: Who knows what would have happened if Halliburton had stayed 90 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:42,960 in there healthy. 91 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:44,879 Speaker 4: But I do think there was a pretty. 92 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: Big gap between the two teams, and it finally showed 93 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:51,039 up in Game seven. But kudos to Rick Carlisle and 94 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,680 the Pacers. I don't know how much more they could 95 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,520 have done than what they did. 96 00:03:56,439 --> 00:04:00,439 Speaker 1: It was impressive showing by Indiana, And I don't know 97 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:03,319 how much of a gap there really was, because we 98 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,120 saw blowouts by both teams, you know, during the course 99 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:11,719 of that series. But obviously the continuity and I think, 100 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,159 you know, the depth was there for Oklahoma City no 101 00:04:15,319 --> 00:04:18,079 question about that. Yeah, Haliburt got up to the start, 102 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,959 you know, hits three threes, nine points, you know, within 103 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,519 the first five minutes of that game, and then you 104 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,360 know that happened, So you don't know, I'm a little 105 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:30,720 surprised that you did get that much money line action 106 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,879 on Indiana and when everybody, you know, even though I 107 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,920 bet Indiana for the series, when it came time to 108 00:04:36,959 --> 00:04:40,399 game seven, I said, well, you know when Indiana lost 109 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,759 what was that Game four, That's when I said, well, 110 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,279 I think my future bed is done. I liked him 111 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,360 in Game six, and I think I even said it 112 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,920 on the show. I feel they can win without Halliburton, 113 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,959 with or without him, one. 114 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: Of those you know, game six, I don't think they 115 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,439 can win game six and seven. And I'm surprised. 116 00:04:57,439 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: You have a lot of people that go to the 117 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,759 window thinking Indian and the money line just because of 118 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,720 what they saw happened in Game six. 119 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,399 Speaker 5: Indiana had their chance to win was game four. Yeah, 120 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,920 if they win Game four, they're probably the NBA champions 121 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,240 right now. But they couldn't get it done in game four. 122 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,319 Like you said, then they had to win because they 123 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:16,480 lost Game five. They had win Game six, and seven. 124 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: I wasn't that surprised by it. 125 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 5: That's usually how people bet those really high profile events. 126 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:24,879 They can't help themselves with those big pluses. And that's 127 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,639 why usually in these it's like a big fight almost 128 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,560 or the super Bowl, there's usually value on the favorite 129 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,680 money line. It's usually cheaper than it should be. And 130 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,519 I thought that I definitely felt that way about Thunder money. 131 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: Line on Sunday. 132 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: It definitely was. Yeah. 133 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,199 Speaker 3: I even when we did the show on Monday, and 134 00:05:42,199 --> 00:05:45,439 we know that you had Indiana for the series, so 135 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,000 you had a big ticket, big plus money. I said 136 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,040 that money line was so low on on Sunday that 137 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,279 you know, I know you don't like to hedge out, 138 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:59,319 but oh I did. That was the perfect number well. 139 00:05:59,319 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: To do So I don't know about perfect because you 140 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:03,480 still had delay. Was it with two thirty or two fifty? 141 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:06,000 You know that's not ideal, but the reason why. 142 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: You were getting back five hundred. 143 00:06:07,399 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying, do you want to? 144 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,519 Speaker 3: I mean, that's if you didn't feel if you didn't 145 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:14,319 feel comfortable about the way Joe, you had a way let. 146 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,759 Speaker 1: Me let me explain my my my theory on that 147 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,959 was because I had bet Indiana in game six I 148 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,800 bet Indiana and game one in Indiana in game. 149 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,959 Speaker 2: Uh full uh three. 150 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: So I felt like, Okay, I got my money hedged 151 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:32,120 off that way because I hit three straight bets and 152 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,560 I didn't lose any straight bets during the course of 153 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,600 that series. So matter of fact, I even hit another 154 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,800 one like on a teaser variety. So I felt like 155 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,279 that was my hedge because normally, you know, I would 156 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:44,560 have done that if. 157 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:47,319 Speaker 2: It was like maybe you know, laying one fifty one sixty. 158 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: But when I see like a two thirty two fittey, 159 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,839 I don't think that's a smart play. 160 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:53,199 Speaker 3: There was value on Oklahoma City at that. 161 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,519 Speaker 1: In comparison to where it was because it opened minus 162 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:57,959 seven hundred and then we saw like minus three fifty 163 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,480 three thirty and then it started coming down. 164 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:01,399 Speaker 2: What if close that John on that seven, I think 165 00:07:01,399 --> 00:07:04,199 it was like two sixty to Yeah. 166 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 5: See, I mean, but I think that I think that's 167 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,879 really good value concerning where the game the other home 168 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,560 game money lines were. And like I know, now we 169 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,120 obviously saw what happened with Halliburton in game seven, but 170 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:17,279 we thought he was hurt going into the game, not 171 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,879 that hurt, like that, but we didn't think he was 172 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:22,639 one hundred percent going into Game seven, and then of 173 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,720 course the unfortunate Achilles turn. 174 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,959 Speaker 3: And yet game seven was the lowest game. 175 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 5: Because because that's how those events get bet, and that's 176 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:35,480 why we saw I wasn't that surprised to see all 177 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,399 that Pacer money line. 178 00:07:36,399 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: I really wasn't. That's how people bet those events. 179 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:42,759 Speaker 1: What about overall season NBA season when you analyze it now. 180 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 5: From active, I would say a very very successful postseason. 181 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Boston losing when they did was not what we were 182 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,480 planning on, but a very successful postseason. 183 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: We did well. 184 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: There were a lot of upsets in the postseason. Money 185 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,920 line upsets led us, broke up a lot of parlays 186 00:08:00,959 --> 00:08:04,040 for US. And then the regular season is the regular 187 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,639 season is the eternal battle. 188 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:05,879 Speaker 4: In the NBA. 189 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,759 Speaker 5: It's the worst sport to book it in the regular 190 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,959 season because the players, you know, they don't feel like 191 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,040 playing half the time, so you're just fighting off these 192 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,560 wise guys that get the information. 193 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:16,839 Speaker 4: I thought our team did a very good job. 194 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Of that, John question. 195 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,399 Speaker 3: A few everybody said that the finals, the ratings were 196 00:08:22,439 --> 00:08:27,519 horrible and everything compared to previous finals. How was it 197 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,240 from a betting standpoint, It's hard. 198 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: To say, because of course it doesn't compare to when 199 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Lebron was playing in Cleveland or those Laker teams with 200 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Kobe a few years before that. It was much those 201 00:08:42,639 --> 00:08:45,159 series were much bigger for us. But I didn't see 202 00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:49,399 a noticeable drop off this year versus say, Milwaukee Phoenix 203 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:54,120 or Denver Miami. I think this one was right in 204 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:56,279 line with those, and I don't know where the TV 205 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,120 ratings ended up falling. But you know what's really good 206 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,840 for us about this NBA Finals? It went seven games, Yeah, 207 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:05,039 and we hadn't had that in nine years. So even 208 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,120 if maybe the day to day matchup wasn't as good 209 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,000 as some other ones, we got a couple of extra 210 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,399 games out of it. That's very good for HANDLE. So 211 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,200 really the Finals couldn't have worked out any better for us. 212 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,879 We got exactly the result we needed, and we got 213 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:20,919 the full seven games of volume, which you know, of course, 214 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:21,720 is our biggest thing. 215 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:25,159 Speaker 1: In June, John Murray joins us VP here at the 216 00:09:25,159 --> 00:09:28,840 super Book talking to NBA season and put a rap 217 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:31,600 on that. Then we have the NBA Draft that just 218 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:34,720 happened in the last couple of nights here how active 219 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:38,679 did you see betters jump in with some of these 220 00:09:38,799 --> 00:09:40,679 bet props for the draft we did. 221 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,759 Speaker 4: We don't do the NBA draft. We don't do the 222 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,799 NBA draft props where we do NFL draft. 223 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 5: But you do have to monitor futures more so for 224 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:51,919 trades like we obviously know Cooper Flag is going to 225 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,600 go to Dallas. 226 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: That doesn't change I mean, you didn't put it minus 227 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:57,360 one hundred thousand like some of these offshore books. 228 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 229 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 4: I mean they try to. Why would you even better 230 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,759 to help people launder money or something. I have no 231 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,799 idea why you would do that. 232 00:10:04,879 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 5: But no, we didn't do that, and we haven't done 233 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,480 NBA draft props in a couple of years. It's not 234 00:10:10,799 --> 00:10:14,080 quite the betting event the NFL draft is, but we are. 235 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,279 We do monitor futures in case of a trade. And 236 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,080 there wasn't Kevin Durant trade. 237 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:20,759 Speaker 4: I don't know if that. 238 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: I think that was before that was Sunday, right, so 239 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:25,440 that wasn't Draft night. But yeah, we're keeping an eye 240 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,480 on stuff like that, not so much anybody that's going 241 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:29,679 to actually get drafted. 242 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: I don't think that fixed changes the market. 243 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: How much did you move the market on Durant. 244 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,799 Speaker 5: Well, you you don't want to ask me that, because 245 00:10:36,799 --> 00:10:40,840 I my opinion on that was was I don't understand. 246 00:10:40,879 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't. 247 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: Follow the NBA the way I follow the other major sports. 248 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,200 Isn't Kevin Durant. 249 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 2: Like forty years old approaching? I think. 250 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 5: I think Houston is now the second favorite blind obviously 251 00:10:51,159 --> 00:10:54,000 Oklahoma City. I understand that they have a very good 252 00:10:54,039 --> 00:10:57,159 young team, and I think that guy is a terrific coach. 253 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: I think he's one of the best coaches in the league. 254 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:00,519 But I don't know. 255 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 5: Maybe I'll be wrong next spring, probably, but I don't 256 00:11:04,759 --> 00:11:07,320 see how getting Durant makes a team that much better. 257 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: I will agree with you on that. I just don't. 258 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,879 I don't get And again, it's just the narrative. 259 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, a future Hall of Famer is joining 260 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,519 this team and people are thinking, hey, this team was 261 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,799 knocking on the door. But if you examine what they did, 262 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,519 they got rid of one of their best players, you know, 263 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:27,879 to get Durant. So Jalen Green has gone now, Amn 264 00:11:27,879 --> 00:11:32,879 Thompson is a budding superstar, you know, Willie b. Shay Gilds, Alexander, 265 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,120 Anthony Edwards, We still don't know about that. But when 266 00:11:36,159 --> 00:11:39,360 you look at the rest of that roster, it's not 267 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,559 as deep as an OKC or even in Indiana. And 268 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,759 again it's it's it's an intriguing team, but what are 269 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:47,960 you going to get with Durant? Will Durant helped this 270 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,360 team because now Durant is going to command the ball. 271 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,639 Obviously he's going to command a lot of these possessions, 272 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:57,519 command a lot of minutes. So you just don't know 273 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,600 what kind of effect is he going to have on 274 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,720 guy that they are getting better and you're grooming as 275 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,080 well too. I still think Houston needs another veteran presence. 276 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,000 You got Fred van Vliet. Thank goodness. If you're a 277 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:11,480 Houston Rockets fan you want to bet the Rockets, it's 278 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:13,720 a good thing you got Van Vliet because he's a veteran. 279 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:17,039 Guys won a championship with Toronto. He signs a nice deal. 280 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,840 If those guys can stay healthy, then yes, but I 281 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,559 don't could consider them a championship contender. They're a nice team. 282 00:12:25,879 --> 00:12:29,320 Probably maybe be a better team, but we don't know. 283 00:12:29,639 --> 00:12:35,279 Because Durant's presence hasn't you know, translated into victories in 284 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,879 the last two teams he's been with. 285 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Actually they've gone backwards. 286 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,519 Speaker 5: Oklahoma City did it a different way. They drafted the 287 00:12:42,519 --> 00:12:44,799 guys that became well, they traded first, Shay, But you know. 288 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: What I mean. 289 00:12:45,399 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 5: They had the young guys with their stars, and then 290 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,000 they got veteran people to players to compliment them, like 291 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,120 Alex Caruso, like Hartenstein. Correct, they didn't get one of 292 00:12:55,159 --> 00:12:57,799 these guys to be the focal point, which is what 293 00:12:57,879 --> 00:12:59,639 Kevin Durant is going to expect to be. 294 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: And I don't. I don't. I don't really get it. 295 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,039 I don't. 296 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:06,039 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm just like I see these guys' ages and 297 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,159 I think to myself, well, then why is that so good? 298 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,879 Like I to me, Lebron's the best player of all time? 299 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,159 But if he went to some team, would I be like, 300 00:13:14,159 --> 00:13:15,960 oh god, I got to bet them to win the 301 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:16,840 NBA Championship. 302 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: No, because it's not twenty. 303 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,799 Speaker 3: Ten, right, there you go, they shouldn't be the second favorite. 304 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 4: I don't think, okay, and not at all. 305 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: I'm not a futures guy. Better in the reason And 306 00:13:27,759 --> 00:13:29,399 this is not a shot at you, This is a 307 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:33,320 shot at at every sports book. The problem with the 308 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:39,200 futures market is Okay, you adjusted on Houston, but there's 309 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,039 no readjustment on everybody behind them. 310 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,879 Speaker 5: We try to we try to move to the same 311 00:13:44,919 --> 00:13:47,840 whole percentage. Okay, within within reason, but go ahead, but 312 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,000 most most don't. 313 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 4: I don't know about that. I don't know. You're probably right. 314 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: It's you know, I mean like if I go better 315 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,279 horse race and I put a plunk, you know, a 316 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,639 chunk of money down on a horse, it's gonna change 317 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,759 his off. But the other horses in the field, you're 318 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:06,360 gonna see that uptick. They're gonna have higher on so 319 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:09,879 there's value there. You don't see that kind of movement 320 00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:13,279 with the what you moved Houston to from where they 321 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:15,759 were to see it go, you know the other way. 322 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,080 Maybe by the time we get to the start of 323 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,320 the season, the market will shifted itself a little bit. 324 00:14:21,759 --> 00:14:25,159 But you know, other teams should have went up if 325 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,879 Houston went down that far. 326 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 5: In my opinion, Marco's playing pretty big at the track 327 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,639 if he's moving the odds. 328 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,639 Speaker 3: When you forget that I'm in a small track by 329 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:34,840 track in Pennsylvania. 330 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you could to del bar he's not affected 331 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:38,759 to tote. 332 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 5: Okay, well, no, I do I definitely agree with what 333 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:44,000 you're saying. And I think part of it is when 334 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,840 we when we lower one of the favorites, we try 335 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:48,919 to encourage the guys to, in order to get back 336 00:14:48,919 --> 00:14:51,120 to the same whole percentage, move up some of the 337 00:14:51,159 --> 00:14:53,559 longer shots, because the second you move up one of 338 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:56,200 the other favorites, there's a bet right there. And it 339 00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:58,279 might not be a bet you necessarily want to take, 340 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:00,639 because there's a reason you start to that team at 341 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:02,600 ten to one and now they're fourteen to one, and 342 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:04,000 how you get a bet You're like, I don't really 343 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,759 want that bet, so that that can be tricky, but yeah, 344 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:08,559 I don't. 345 00:15:08,799 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. Houston might prove me wrong, but I 346 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,679 don't see how. 347 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,879 Speaker 5: I thought they would have been better off keeping together 348 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:17,080 that nucleus of young kids that got the second seed 349 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,480 this year that maybe needed to go through some growing 350 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:22,320 pains the way Oklahoma City did last year. 351 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,799 Speaker 4: And you know, they come back, they win the title. 352 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: The next especially, and you made the point in the 353 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,320 beginning here with their coach. Okay, they got a good 354 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,120 young coach, all right, and let him, you know, work 355 00:15:33,159 --> 00:15:36,240 with these work with these guys. So we'll see how 356 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,360 it all play. And I love Kevin Durant, always have been. 357 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,600 But again, I didn't care when he left Golden State. 358 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,519 He wanted to go be the man in Brooklyn. Then 359 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:47,039 he won, you know again, traded to Brooklyn, traded to Phoenix, 360 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,919 now trade to Houston. Four teams in the last six years, 361 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,799 and and to me, yeah, he's I think he's has 362 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,200 a little more left in the tank than Lebron James does. 363 00:15:56,279 --> 00:15:58,559 But I'm not back in either one of those guys where. 364 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: It's not a knock on either one of those guys. 365 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 5: Those guys are the two best players in the last 366 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,600 twenty years, but they are what they are at this 367 00:16:05,639 --> 00:16:08,240 stage of their career, and they're going up against guys 368 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,360 that are in their mid twenties and that doesn't work 369 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:12,799 real quick. 370 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,559 Speaker 1: College Baseball World Series also ended over the weekend. LSU 371 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:24,159 sweeps Coastal Carolina. Was it lackluster betting because Coastal Carolina 372 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:24,639 was in there? 373 00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: It was the exact opposite. 374 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 5: And you know, I know that everyone listening is gonna 375 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:31,600 love hearing me say this, but we did great on 376 00:16:31,639 --> 00:16:35,159 that too. We took a lot of money on Coastal Carolina. 377 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,559 We had a lot of money on Coastal Carolina to win. 378 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,799 Speaker 2: This was one of those guys. 379 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,519 Speaker 5: We had a lot of money on Coastal Carolina Game 380 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,080 two and yeah, Sunday, it was just Sunday was great 381 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,399 for us because that ended on Sunday as well. That 382 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:52,679 ended early Sunday. LSU swept them and we did great 383 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,799 on the College World Series. We did lose in the 384 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,480 Future Book because LSU was so popular in the Futures Book. 385 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:01,039 We did take a hit there, but overall it was great. 386 00:17:01,039 --> 00:17:02,279 Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying. When you get a 387 00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:04,079 team that the average. 388 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: Guest customer is not familiar with, like Coastal Carolina's in 389 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,359 the World Series is not like LSU, you know, UCLA 390 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:15,000 or Alabama or something like that, you would think that, like, 391 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,920 maybe you're not gonna get as much action. People are 392 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,200 gonna look at that and they're gonna go, that's a mismatch. 393 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:20,839 Speaker 4: O Coastal wanted a few years ago, right. 394 00:17:20,759 --> 00:17:21,559 Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen. 395 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 5: I think that he dated myself to me, that seems 396 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:26,960 like it was like last season. 397 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,559 Speaker 4: No, you're hi, Hearriet. 398 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,319 Speaker 5: Coastal's not a big name like Texas third or something 399 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,079 like that. I get what you're saying, but now we 400 00:17:35,759 --> 00:17:38,200 had really good volume on that. It was a very good, 401 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,799 really happy with the College World. 402 00:17:39,599 --> 00:17:43,319 Speaker 1: Series International Fight Week here in Las Vegas, UFC three 403 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,880 seventeen and T Mobile Arena Tomorrow night got ourselves a 404 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,119 pretty good main event lightweight titled Bout. 405 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,039 Speaker 2: I would imagine you're seeing some good action. Yeah, there's really. 406 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 5: Good action on really the whole pay per view card 407 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,240 and the money. The money's gonna come in on Charles 408 00:17:58,279 --> 00:18:00,359 Olavera because of what we talked to about with the 409 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,039 Pacers money loan. They want to take that big. Plus 410 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:04,759 he's more than I think three to one right now 411 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,440 against it to Puria is moving up in wait for 412 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,960 this fight, but he's undefeated, he's smoked everybody he's fought. 413 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 4: It's hard to go against him. 414 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 5: But I do think we'll have very good volume on 415 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,519 that fight tomorrow, and really the whole pay per view event. 416 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,240 We're seeing sharp action. We're seeing big bets. These UFC 417 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,599 pay per views. They're huge for us all year, but 418 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,039 they're even bigger now. They're the biggest game in town 419 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,960 by far now. So this one tomorrow and then there's 420 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,319 one in New Orleans next month, and I think there's 421 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:38,839 one in Chicago in August, and they will be like 422 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,279 the ten pole events for US until we get back 423 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:42,119 into college football. 424 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,839 Speaker 1: Where is UFC versus boxing from a betting perspective? Is 425 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,680 it really card by card meaning event by me an 426 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,160 event or just in the hole? What do you see 427 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,960 in betting action wise if you're evaluating a year. 428 00:18:55,279 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 5: Well, it's very very simple to answer that question if 429 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,640 you just looked at it as the heavy I'm sorry, 430 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,039 the main event in boxing versus the main event in UFC. 431 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:07,000 More often than not, boxing would be bigger. But the 432 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:09,880 UFC does such a good job of having these ten 433 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,519 to twelve fight cards. People have heard of fighters up 434 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:15,039 and down these cards. We've got betting on all of them. 435 00:19:15,559 --> 00:19:18,680 Boxing does a bad job of promoting their undercards. So 436 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,960 the UFC overall betting is way bigger than boxing because 437 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,160 you're looking at ten or twelve fights versus one or two. 438 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: The UFC much bigger. 439 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 5: Sport for the sports book because just because of that, 440 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,559 the pure volume of the fights. 441 00:19:31,839 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: Don't you see more upsets in the UFC variety than boxing? 442 00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: I always think we'll. 443 00:19:36,279 --> 00:19:39,799 Speaker 4: Just have more fights. They're bettable, right, But yes, I. 444 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:44,799 Speaker 1: Think personally again, you know, I'm I'm a big believer 445 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:52,000 in betting boxing favorites. They cover astronomical percentage. 446 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:54,519 Speaker 2: But UFC it just seems like Wow. 447 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,559 Speaker 1: I mean, the upsets happen much more often and there's 448 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,960 a lot more value you know there. But again, you 449 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,640 have the big spreads either in UFC as you do boxing. 450 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: I think a big reason You're definitely right about that, 451 00:20:05,759 --> 00:20:08,000 But I think a big reason for that is look 452 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:10,200 at a three round fight versus a ten or twelve 453 00:20:10,279 --> 00:20:13,559 round fight. Three round fight, one judge botches one round 454 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:14,839 that can swing the whole fight. 455 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a ten. 456 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 5: Round fight, it's very unlikely you're gonna get some horrible scorecard. 457 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:22,680 It happens, but it happens a lot more frequently in 458 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,240 a three round fight where if they just misjudge one round, 459 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,240 now this guy wins, and I think we get. 460 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: Some really wonky scorecards. 461 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 5: But I'll tell you we see that a lot more 462 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,319 often when the fights are not in Nevada. They go 463 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,640 to some of these states that very rarely hold fights. 464 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,400 The judges have probably never done this, maybe done this 465 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,920 once or twice. They've got no idea what they're watching. 466 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:47,039 And some of the scorecards that get turned in. You're 467 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,400 just like, what are you talking about? I'd be careful 468 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,039 laying a big price on fights like that. 469 00:20:51,519 --> 00:20:55,279 Speaker 1: Great stuff, John UFC three seventeen T Mobile Arena. Of course, 470 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:57,039 get over here to the Westgate, Las Vegas and the 471 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:59,839 super book bet that we've got baseball happening. 472 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:03,279 Speaker 2: Now, and we're just right around the corner from football. 473 00:21:03,319 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: And of course, hey, these windows are open right for 474 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,240 taking your future bets for the NFL as well too. 475 00:21:08,279 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 5: If anybody wants to bet the Rockies, we are also 476 00:21:10,839 --> 00:21:12,720 over there because we I. 477 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,519 Speaker 4: Mean, we loug you. 478 00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 5: I know, we bragged about how great of a day 479 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,480 we had on Sunday. We had a great day Sunday. 480 00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:22,440 We have had a terrible week of baseball Dodgers, Rockies. 481 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,920 That was not good for the sportsbooks around this beautiful state. 482 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 4: I can promise you that it was ugly stuff. 483 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: Don't forget. 484 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: Starting next week July the first you can start setting 485 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,039 up and signing up here for the super Contest. So 486 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,680 many different super contests this year at the West Kate, 487 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,279 Las Vegas. Gotta love it. We got call, we got 488 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:45,480 the College Contest this year. We got the College Survivor 489 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,240 as well too. 490 00:21:46,319 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we got survivor man. 491 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll be talking a lot about that. But starting 492 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,880 July first, come over here and get signed up with 493 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,960 the West Kate, Las Vegas. 494 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,599 Speaker 2: Have a good week, my friend. Appreciate you, all right, 495 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,400 We'll see, we'll see. 496 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: We'll see in a few weeks, because we'll be off 497 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:00,720 the next couple of weeks. 498 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 5: Marco's gonna be at the racetracks, lower on the prize pot. 499 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: That's it, all right, mister Topeboard. 500 00:22:06,039 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: There he is and looking looking into for girls and 501 00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:14,559 ankle bracelets, all right. 502 00:22:13,839 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: Hanging out with them, Chuck. When we come back, the 503 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,200 quarterback Jay Schrader will be with us. 504 00:22:19,759 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: Don't forget all this brought to you by our good 505 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,119 friends at wager talk dot com. 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