WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.080 I'm trying to think when you would really want to 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:06.080 listen to music like this, like a road trip driving 3 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:10.119 long distances. Dave Fox is live in studio. All right, 4 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:12.800 which hipster ed M band did you bring us today? 5 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:14.599 First of all, there is a connection here. This is 6 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:16.760 this is Cascade. Have you ever heard that name? I 7 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.760 have heard of Cascade. I actually have a Cascade song 8 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:20.719 on a playlist to mind. 9 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:22.039 What do you know about Cascade? 10 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:24.120 The only that the song I have is called Fine 11 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:25.320 Love and it's actually quite good. 12 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:27.879 Okay, that one? That was Fine Love. But he's a 13 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:30.719 universe of Utah graduate. And in honor of the ute 14 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:33.640 schedule and BAU schedules coming out today, I thought I. 15 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:37.520 Would play you of you grad Cascade. What's his real name? Honestly, 16 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:40.240 I don't know. Okay, it's definitely not cast. I would 17 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:41.920 be his last name? I don't. I don't know. 18 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.039 I know him as Cascade as you do. Do you 19 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:47.600 have any insight info on the Cascade? 20 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:49.399 Is he like a DJ? Is that what it is? 21 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:53.200 And it's it's k Cascade, kas kad. I did that, 22 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:55.640 so it's called on your mind, by the way, Okay, sweet, Well, 23 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:58.439 so there you go, because I was on your mind today, 24 00:00:58.560 --> 00:00:59.560 You were not, but you're. 25 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.119 Live and student. Yeah, thank you for having me last night. 26 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:05.000 On You're Always. It's a lot of funat Yeah, you 27 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.359 ripped through that nicely. Shout out to Timmy our guy. 28 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:10.480 He wrote four of the five questions yesterday. Dave, he 29 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:12.120 writes all the questions every time. 30 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:13.280 That's not true, but he did. 31 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:17.200 He's been doing it a lot lately because he's he's 32 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:19.519 just creative. And I like to expand because if you 33 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:21.760 if the same guy does it every week, it might 34 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:25.439 get stale or every other week, and so I'll bring 35 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.200 him in for a month or two and then I'll. 36 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:29.640 Then you'll let Lenard do it and then kiuse, why 37 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.079 don't you try doing it one time? 38 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:34.599 Well, I've done it a lot, David. David, you are 39 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:39.120 a hero, Okay. In our business you have people, no kids. 40 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:39.640 Listen up. 41 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:42.239 Okay, If if if you want to look up to 42 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:45.319 somebody in this market that is in sports media, you 43 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:47.920 should look up to Dave Fox. He somehow has found 44 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:50.719 a way to create like a forty year career while 45 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:53.400 never putting it in one ounce of work at all. 46 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:55.480 And I'm not bringing that up to knock on you 47 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.480 are bringing that up to say, you, sir, are a hero. Well, 48 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.799 thanks for that. So that's amazing. That's gone that long. 49 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.560 You got your guys writing questions. You just show up 50 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.599 and you're the face and you let Mikolicic do all 51 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:08.159 the hard work. 52 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.319 You never leave the studio. You have dinner delivered to 53 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:13.400 the studio. Dave, you are a pioneer, my friend. You know, 54 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:15.879 I haven't gotten into that part yet, now that you 55 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:18.120 mention it, what's up the whole door Dash thing. I 56 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.479 don't doorda never. I've never done that well because it's 57 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:22.800 like thirty seven dollars for a brew. Yeah, I mean 58 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.919 I go get I drive down the street. But there's 59 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:27.280 some people that live with that. 60 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.840 Yeah, leave your house because hey, the restaurants don't like it. 61 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.560 And be true, I'm dead serious. Restaurants don't like DoorDash. 62 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:36.120 I no, no, they don't like DoorDash at all because 63 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:39.199 DoorDash charges them fees and then customers complain that the 64 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:42.199 food is so expensive. Dave, order a burrito from door 65 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.199 Dash tonight. It will be twenty seven dollars. 66 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.039 I'm not gonna kid it. I don't even not account. 67 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:47.120 I'm not gonna do it. 68 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:50.360 All right, you reference the Big twelve College football schedule release. 69 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:54.039 Let me just ask you right off the top, October eighteenth, Utah, Dave. 70 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:56.879 The last time BYU and Utah played football in October 71 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.520 it was nineteen sixty seven. You were forty one years old. 72 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.960 It is are why are we doing it? 73 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:04.680 I thought last year, after them not putting them at 74 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:06.479 the end of the season, there was some talk of all, 75 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:09.000 we should have done that, we'll get it right. And 76 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:10.439 then what do they do the next year? They move 77 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:12.560 it up even further. Remember last year, I believe it 78 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:16.759 wasn't the first Saturday in November November ninth. Yeah maybe so, Yeah, 79 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:18.840 you're right, it was so second Saturday November. 80 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:20.840 But and then now they've made it even worse. 81 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:23.719 I don't understand how, in this day and age of 82 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:28.520 college rivalries and how great rivalries are, they think that 83 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:32.759 Utah playing Kansas and BHYU playing Central Florida, which by 84 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:34.759 the way, is how Utah ended last season. Although at 85 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:38.199 least be why you gets to be home is makes sense, 86 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.280 at the end of the season, it makes no sense 87 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:43.520 at all. I don't understand why. Maybe even I don't 88 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:45.719 know if the athletic directors have some input. Maybe they 89 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:46.960 don't want to play it at the end of the year. 90 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:50.680 I don't know, but it's it's sad and none of 91 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:52.919 us can be that thrilled about October eighteenth. 92 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:54.439 It's really while. 93 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:58.479 It's the one thing because look, trying to analyze what 94 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:00.759 the Big twelve will look like this year in football 95 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.840 on February fourth is an exercise in futility. Tell me 96 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:06.280 who you pick sixteenth so I can pick them to win. 97 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:08.919 So I don't know if it's a hard schedule. I 98 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:12.400 don't know if it's an easy schedule. Comparing Utah to BYU. 99 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:14.439 I'm not really even sure exactly how to do that 100 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:16.800 right now. I mean, there's some metrics well that you 101 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:18.759 can utilize, like the S and P plus. But we'll 102 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:22.240 have spring football, then we'll have another transfer window, and 103 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:25.199 come fall the team could look completely different. It's impossible 104 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:27.160 to know whether or not this is an easier hard schedule. 105 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:28.800 But the one thing that jumped out at me, Dave 106 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:30.519 was BYU Utah. 107 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.120 And it doesn't matter if it's an easier or hard schedule, 108 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.879 doesn't matter who how good or bad these teams are 109 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.920 going to be. We know what that game is. No 110 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:42.519 matter what, no matter if they're over or undefeated. We 111 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:44.600 know what that game is. We saw this year. It 112 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.800 was a great game, and BYU was had a better 113 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.040 team on paper coming into it. So I don't know 114 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:52.000 why they don't just do that now. If you use 115 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:56.759 this year's schedule or teams as any sort of a barometer, 116 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.720 Utah has a really tough finishing schedule with both Kansas 117 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:03.160 school But other than that, you're right, there's no way 118 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:06.319 to tell other than you know. Kansas should be playing 119 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.720 Kansas State at the end of the season. Utah should 120 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:10.759 be playing BYU at the end of the season. That's 121 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:12.480 just the way those things should be. And I don't 122 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:14.439 know how long it's going to take the Big Twelve 123 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.439 to figure that out, but I hope sooner than later. 124 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:19.000 Yeah, I mean, they have Arizona Arizona State Final game 125 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:21.319 of the year. And your point about last season is 126 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:23.199 a good one because I can remember we even had 127 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.120 some Big Twelve guests on the show and some college 128 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:29.000 football like Josh Pate who now has a really massive 129 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.920 college football podcast. He was in town prior to the 130 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.720 Florida game, and I asked him, have you ever been 131 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:37.879 to a Utah BYU game, and he said, no, you know, 132 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:40.160 but I know, you know obviously if you know college football, 133 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.560 you know it's a big time rival. Then first year 134 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:44.199 in the Big Twelve, a lot of Big Twelve people 135 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:45.720 were kind of like, all right, let's see what this 136 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.279 is about. And they could not have had a better 137 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.000 introductions what this thing is. And by the way, what 138 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.920 it is nine times out of ten the only time 139 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:56.160 it's not like it was last year. If there's a 140 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:59.000 massive talent gap like Utah in two thousand and four, 141 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.600 more of the not this is down to the wire, 142 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:03.360 last possession thing. 143 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:04.519 It's always sold out. 144 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:07.439 It was highly watched, highly viewed because it was a 145 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.959 good television window. It checked every single box. And not 146 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.480 to be not to make a hyperbolic statement or be 147 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:19.079 a sensationalist, but my concern about the future of college football, 148 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.160 and I'm not a you know, sound the alarm. This 149 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.279 sport is in trouble guy. I think Saturday's in the 150 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.199 fall are always going to feel like Saturdays in the fall. 151 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.439 But my concern things like this indicate the people that 152 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:32.959 are making decisions are losing track of what makes college 153 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.199 football special. And at the top of the list are 154 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:38.639 rivalries because they are different than your pro football rivalries. 155 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:41.199 And this one's so unique because by us forty miles 156 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:43.920 that way, you have to take care of the things 157 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.000 that make your sports special, and rivalries to me, are at 158 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:46.600 the top of the list. 159 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.240 Well, and what's even more frustrating about it, and your 160 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:53.000 point is well taken. They witnessed it, they saw it. 161 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.120 You referenced night two thousand and four. Yes, that was 162 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:58.399 the Urban Meyer blowout year when they ran the table, 163 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.800 but twelve months prior to that, it was a three 164 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:01.560 to nothing. 165 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.879 Game, right, I mean, and you know the same coaches. 166 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:06.639 I don't know. 167 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:08.519 I mean, you could hit these guys over the head 168 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:10.000 with a two by four, and it seems like they're 169 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.759 not paying attention. If I'm not mistaken, I think there 170 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.639 were a number of people on the national level that's 171 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.959 after this year's Utah BYU game came out and said, wow, 172 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:21.639 that should have been the end of the season, because 173 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.800 it frankly should have, and they've just brushed it aside 174 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:25.680 and here we go again. 175 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.279 Yeah, yep, And so you know, obviously, that to me 176 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:30.759 is the main takeaway. 177 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:31.319 Awful. 178 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:33.560 Well, the other the other thing, I'm sorry to interrupt, 179 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:38.319 you the Utah's awful pre season schedule or non league schedule, 180 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.000 I should say, I shouldn't say awful. But okay, they 181 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.199 go to UCLA Fine cal Poly here, and then how in. 182 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:45.519 The world are they going to Laramie. 183 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.920 So Bill joined us earlier, and he provided some clarity 184 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:52.920 because Porter is very excited to spend a number of 185 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:54.279 days and hours in laram Me. 186 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:55.240 Yes, we're gonna. 187 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:56.839 Send him, not just for the game, but I'm gonna 188 00:07:56.839 --> 00:07:58.439 give him the week off and he's just gonna. 189 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:00.519 Go live there because that's the kind of guy. 190 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:01.079 Our guy is. 191 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:03.319 He kind of looks like a Laramie guy though. That's 192 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.720 I mean, what is the beard, you know, the mountain man. 193 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:09.680 Thanks the hair. I'm gonna take it as compliment, just 194 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:10.639 so that say. 195 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:12.800 Switch that R on your hat to an L and 196 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:15.079 you'll be right at home. Okay, So we're gonna send Porter. 197 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:17.480 He's gonna be a man on the ground. But Bill said, 198 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:20.240 this game has been scheduled for nearly a decade. 199 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.240 So this is long. So it's like so so Tom 200 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.480 Holmi talked about this earlier. Tom. 201 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.079 You know, so BYU is out East Carolina this year, 202 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:29.680 and at first glance, It's like, why are we doing this? 203 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:32.320 And Tom said, no, it's we're We're making good our 204 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:35.279 agreement with East Carolina. And my understanding is Utah is 205 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:37.480 doing the same thing with Wyoming. Have you covered a 206 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:38.200 game in Laramie? 207 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:39.360 Oh? Yeah, several times. 208 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.679 I was at the game in Laramie urban Meyer, I 209 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:43.720 believe it was his first year when the power went out, 210 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.399 you were at that stadium. I was actually at that 211 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:49.279 game and it was irritating because we were driving and 212 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:51.120 we were gonna drive home that night after the game, 213 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.200 and as you know, the game got delayed wuite a while. 214 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.759 Wyoming wanted to little side story on this and I 215 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:58.240 was down there on the field while they were talking. 216 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:00.840 They wanted to reap or finish game the next day, 217 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.440 and urban Meyer was having none of that. Yeah, he 218 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.559 was like, no, we're finishing this game to night. Figure 219 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:10.480 it out, and they did and then they got out 220 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:12.320 of town. How would that have even worked? 221 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:16.080 Fans for the next fine like a motel and especially 222 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:16.720 in Laramie. 223 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:19.759 How long is that drive? Oh gosh, Porter, is it 224 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:22.759 four and a half hours? Like it's longer than maybe five. 225 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.600 It's not as far as Denver, It's not as far 226 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:26.039 as Denver. 227 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:27.519 Oh, you know, you're right, it is more than that. 228 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:29.600 I think it's like five or six and it's and 229 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.679 it's lovely scenery. 230 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:32.879 Like eighteen hours. 231 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.320 An eighteen hours drive porter, I need you to look 232 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:38.559 up how far away Denver is and how far Laramie is. 233 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:40.840 Laramie's like five and a half six hours. That's what 234 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:43.279 I thought, okay, but but Denver's not eighteen hours. How 235 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.320 far away is Denver? It's only five more hours from Laramie. 236 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.440 It's way to look it up our ESPN and you 237 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:53.639 also you can also drive through the mountains if it's summertime. 238 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:56.559 Yes, you can, and it's very pretty our ESPN stats 239 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:59.039 and info apart closer to eight on Denver. I used 240 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:00.519 to live in Aspen. I know know where, I know 241 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:00.919 where it is. 242 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.000 Well, that's that's a new thing. When did you live 243 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:03.480 in Aspen? 244 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.879 When I first started, I lived in Glenwood Springs, which 245 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.559 is about twenty miles from But that's not Aspen. You 246 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.440 want to sound cool, I said spring. Aspen is a 247 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:15.720 point of reference. You wanted to sound cool that you 248 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:16.120 lived in. 249 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.200 I was very close to Aspen. It's like there, there's 250 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:20.159 only eight hours. 251 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:23.879 Yeah, oh interesting, not that far anyway. All right, so 252 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.559 that's terrible, will you? Oh wait, so of course you're 253 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:28.159 you're gonna send michel Itch to laram but. 254 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:30.399 You're not going. Oh, I don't think we're e send anybody. 255 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:32.080 You don't send anything. You won't send anybody. 256 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.279 What we'll cover it off TV. We're not your cover 257 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:36.840 that game. What's the point of covering that game? 258 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:38.919 Because it's you tough football, Dave, and people care about 259 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.240 We don't travel that much until postseason. Yeah, but Mikolitch, 260 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:44.159 you would want to go to Laramie. I don't think so, 261 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:46.080 you little fly fish. We may want to do the 262 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.559 opener at u c l A well. And you know what, 263 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.759 you're not wrong about the non con And I am 264 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.919 one this is an unpopular opinion. When these games go away, 265 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:00.000 I'm going to be fine with it now that it's 266 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.679 it's not awesome for a program like cal Poly. He's 267 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:04.919 gonna come up here and collect a five hundred thousand 268 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:06.960 dollars check or whatever it is go fund their ad, 269 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:10.240 you know, athletic department. And I feel bad for the 270 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.200 schools that actually need these games to fund their athletic department. 271 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.080 But they just don't do anything for me, and I 272 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.919 don't think it's good for the bigger programs to potentially 273 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:20.200 lose players to injury and. 274 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:20.799 All that stuff. 275 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.600 But the UCLA opener, it's not bad, no, because at 276 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:26.639 least it's a Big ten team. They were down last year. 277 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:28.759 They lose their quarterback, it was a first year coach, 278 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.360 and look, UCLA should be good every year. I say 279 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:34.000 the same thing about Cal football. You should be good 280 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.159 every year you're in that recruiting footprint. I don't know 281 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:37.919 what they're going to be, but you could do worse 282 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.080 as an opener than the Rose Bowl against UCRE. 283 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:42.879 Anytime you're a power four versus power four, that's a 284 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:44.840 good thing. I have absolutely no problem with that. By 285 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.279 the way, it'll be toasty down there in August for sure, 286 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:50.679 especially up there in that air. The neighborhood by U's 287 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.519 kind of got the same situation, although they open with 288 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:55.799 Portland State, as you know, but then I believe it's 289 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:58.399 Stanford right after that, so that's not quite so bad. 290 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:00.480 They mean, it's the same kind of thing. That's just 291 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:01.679 the opposite of Utah. 292 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:04.960 Utah goes, you know, power four versus Power four, and 293 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.279 then a you know, less than mid major, and B 294 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:10.240 what he does just the opposite. So but B, why 295 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:12.519 you had Stanford at home too, So that's a little 296 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.639 bit better. They can soften the blow of their fans 297 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.200 sitting through Portland State knowing that the next week they 298 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.600 get the Stanford at their place, and then. 299 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:23.639 After Stanford they have a buy b yu as an 300 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:26.759 early early by then at East Carolina and then at Colorado. 301 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:29.240 You know what, Porter, I'm a team player. Since you're 302 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:33.759 going to Laramie, I agree that I will go to Pasadena. 303 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:37.399 Okay you may not, But because you're going to laram Me, 304 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.000 I'll go to Pasadena, I'll golf for a week. 305 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:42.039 We'll hang out. Come on down, let's play golf. Let's 306 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:42.279 do it. 307 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:45.919 I like it, so Utah and BYU schedule release, let 308 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:47.399 me kick the tires with you on a couple of 309 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:47.960 other things. 310 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.879 A few minutes left. 311 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:55.960 From the perspective of interest in pro basketball, because the 312 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:58.879 data is in and it doesn't matter that you could 313 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.360 work for the NBA and spin it all you want. 314 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:04.679 Numbers are down, ratings are down. Do you think this 315 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.799 historic week changes that at all? Do you think people 316 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:09.960 will be more tuned in too pro basketball as a 317 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.039 result of what we've seen over the past seventy two hours. 318 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.919 I don't know if the move itself does, but I 319 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.879 think the byproduct of that. As soon as Lucas suits 320 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.080 up for the Lakers, and by the way, against the Jazz. 321 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:25.279 Is a rumor that Lucas first came against the Lakers 322 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:26.799 before the Lakers will be against the Jazz. 323 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:28.960 It's right, So I can't even mat Well, now, if 324 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.679 you're the network, you're probably thinking, oh, great, why does 325 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:33.320 this have to be Why couldn't it have been okay 326 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:35.360 see or even better Dallas? 327 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:37.799 But because the Jazz have already had. 328 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:40.679 A game taken off national TV because of the situation 329 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:42.399 they're in second worst team in the league. 330 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:44.360 So I can I will. 331 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:47.039 I would definitely see a little bit of a boost 332 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.480 once Luca gets in that Laker uniform. 333 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:51.639 And yes, that's a byproduct of the trade. 334 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:53.679 I don't know if the trade itself means, oh, everybody's 335 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:56.279 gonna start watching the NBA, but I think it might 336 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:57.799 give the Lakers a little bit of a kick. But 337 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.120 aren't the Lakers one of those teams, like you know, 338 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:02.440 the Dallas Cowboys. No matter how good or bad they are, 339 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:04.159 they still have massive viewership. 340 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:07.159 So but I agree, I think there'll be a kick. 341 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:10.639 And I'm guessing that the network executives guys at TNT 342 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:12.399 and ESPN are look at the schedule right now and 343 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:14.320 trying to figure out, Okay, when can we get Luca 344 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:18.200 and Lebron together on TV? Can you imagine though, if 345 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:21.639 it is the first game against the Lakers is down there, 346 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.759 so and then they play them again up here right 347 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:25.759 the very next game. 348 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:26.360 Yeah, that's right. 349 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:29.440 So I don't know what the network thinking would be 350 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.240 when that's your opponent. 351 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:34.399 They're probably not thrilled. It's the Jazz. I'm sure they're not. 352 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.480 And we flex this game, please, and who knows what's 353 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.960 gonna happen. Think about the last Kobe game. Who was 354 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:44.440 it against? It was against the Jazz, and he's destroyed them. 355 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:47.360 Yeah you know what if everyone watched it, but it's 356 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:50.000 revisionist history. He didn't really destroy them. 357 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:53.080 They just decide like and Heyward has talked about this 358 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:55.200 because I was probably just should light him have his Yes, 359 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:57.279 I was covering the game. In fact, well, we'll ask 360 00:14:57.320 --> 00:14:59.480 our ESPN Stats and Info department to look up one 361 00:14:59.480 --> 00:14:59.840 more thing. 362 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.600 Look up Kobe's last game against the Jazz and he 363 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.440 have like seventy something or some absurd but I think 364 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.320 he took sixty one shots. 365 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.320 And I was watching it that I was watching it 366 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:12.919 with Britton Johnson because for people to remember, the Jazz 367 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:15.159 actually that year had a chance to make the playoffs, 368 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.720 and then I think they needed Houston to lose. Houston won, 369 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:20.960 then the Jazz were out of it. So then it 370 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:24.200 became it was not germane to anything exciting for the Jazz. 371 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.600 They did not need to win, and it just became 372 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.240 this thing. And early on Britain actually pointed this out. 373 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:31.639 He's like, it looks like they're just feeding Kobe and 374 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:33.679 letting him shoot every time to see what they can do, 375 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.440 because this is his final game. And so the narrative 376 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:39.519 became Kobe had this miraculous last game against the Jazz, 377 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.279 and it was like, no, it was a glorified it 378 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:43.960 was a glorified twenty four hour fitness scrimmage where they 379 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:45.759 let him shoot every time. I want to say he 380 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.639 took sixty shots to score like sixty two points. 381 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:54.039 He took fifty shots, but twenty one of them or 382 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:56.919 from downtown now he shot twenty two total. He was 383 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.120 twenty two to fifty. He almost shot forty fifty per cent. 384 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:01.960 He scored sixty Yeah, sixty points, Okay, sixty points on 385 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:02.600 fifty shots. 386 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:05.039 Okay, I understand what you're saying, but I mean history 387 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:06.840 won't always look at it that way. Well, all I'm 388 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:08.879 telling you is you're going to take two of the 389 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:11.799 iconic acre games of the last decade and their bol. 390 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:14.720 Against the jazz. Yeah, I'm sure the NBA is yeah, 391 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:17.399 they can't be. But tell me what everyone's going to. 392 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:20.200 Watch because you're always asking me this on five questions 393 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:21.159 or talking jazz? 394 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:24.440 What do you cause? You're Dave fox Man of the people. 395 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:26.840 You're out and about in the community, and I'm sure 396 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.279 when people see you at the ward or just around 397 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.159 they want to ask you about the jazz. What do 398 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.279 they what do they say about this current? 399 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:37.399 Well, the first the first thing you tend to get 400 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:40.039 a lot of is you'd be surprised how people don't 401 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:43.919