Speaker 1: My next guest has I mean to say. He's a
Speaker 1: prolific author. He's written more than twenty books, including the
Speaker 1: bestseller The Results Equation From Dream to Done in five
Speaker 1: Simple Steps.
Speaker 2: He now travels the.
Speaker 1: World and spends his time trying to help other people
Speaker 1: live their very best lives. And if you're feeling a
Speaker 1: little stuck, you're definitely going to want to hear this
Speaker 1: interview with Kelln Fluekicker joining me now from beautiful Canada,
Speaker 1: our friends to the North.
Speaker 2: Hi, Kellen, Welcome to the show. Mandy.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, appreciate being here with you today.
Speaker 1: So I want to start our conversation with a little
Speaker 1: about your backstory, because you weren't always the positive, upbeat
Speaker 1: guy trying to help other people lead.
Speaker 2: Their best lives. How did you get here?
Speaker 3: Well, I was a typical got to go pursue the
Speaker 3: corporate ladder, get all that stuff. I did that for decades,
Speaker 3: and the chief C suite stuff in the United States
Speaker 3: and in Canada and so forth. But behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: my life is a wreck. I was living in self sabotage,
Speaker 3: struggling with mental illness, depression, and ended up with addictions
Speaker 3: and failed relationships and a nightmare of a story of
Speaker 3: all kinds. And finally, in two thousand and seven, here
Speaker 3: I turned fifty two, I had a divine intervention that
Speaker 3: invited me to change direction. I radically stopped and turned
Speaker 3: in a new way and literally started life over again.
Speaker 3: And for the last eighteen years, I've become the person
Speaker 3: that does all the stuff you just described.
Speaker 1: That's a lot to pack into eighteen years, twenty books,
Speaker 1: right there, is pretty impressive. Let's talk about that divine intervention.
Speaker 1: Was that your near death experience?
Speaker 3: No, that happened eleven years later. The divine intervention could
Speaker 3: have been. It just wasn't life threatening, but it was
Speaker 3: like that. It was some an incredible out of body
Speaker 3: experience that made me take a new perspective on how
Speaker 3: I'd been living my life and invited me literally with
Speaker 3: the words, it is enough to change. And so I did,
Speaker 3: and without having any idea of how to do it
Speaker 3: or where to go or anything. And so I just
Speaker 3: kind of walked off in a new direction and a
Speaker 3: commitment that I'm going to a new way of life
Speaker 3: in a new place, and have not deviated in the
Speaker 3: last eighteen years.
Speaker 1: You know, doing this show for as long as I've
Speaker 1: had my own show for over twenty years now, and
Speaker 1: I've had the opportunity to talk to people, multiple people
Speaker 1: who have had a near death experience or an experience
Speaker 1: like yours where they call it a divine intervention. And
Speaker 1: I never get tired of hearing about the power of
Speaker 1: God to move us in the right direction if we
Speaker 1: just listen, right, I mean, isn't it We've got to listen,
Speaker 1: let's talk, if we could go ahead?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's exactly right. They are invitations. They don't
Speaker 3: do the work. It didn't heal my mental illness, it
Speaker 3: didn't heal my addictions, but the invitation was so powerful
Speaker 3: that the answer was I'm going I don't know what
Speaker 3: I have to do, I don't know where I have
Speaker 3: to go, et cetera. And the near death experience was
Speaker 3: eighteen or eleven years later, in twenty eighteen, that happened.
Speaker 3: That was the excellent illness. I got a fatal illness
Speaker 3: and an infection and died in the ic. You and
Speaker 3: Ben had conversations with God, three of them, and those
Speaker 3: conversations affirmed powerfully what I'd been doing for the eleven
Speaker 3: years and made me even more ridiculously committed if that
Speaker 3: could have been possible.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about your strategies for helping people, because
Speaker 1: I love your concept that we have created a culture
Speaker 1: of mediocrity. And this is the conversation I have a
Speaker 1: sixteen year old daughter, and that I have a conversation
Speaker 1: with my daughter about trying to balance.
Speaker 2: The urge or the.
Speaker 1: Push for perfectionism with also not accepting mediocrity. Right, So
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: About that, Well, mediocrity is the idea that, eh, that's
Speaker 3: as good as it gets, and it shows up in
Speaker 3: the form of I'm not good enough, I can't do this.
Speaker 3: There's people that have the breaks or better things than
Speaker 3: I do. And the truth is you, me, each of us,
Speaker 3: your daughter, my kids, they have the ability to create
Speaker 3: the life we want to have. We just have to
Speaker 3: adopt that viewpoint and then start taking incremental steps like
Speaker 3: there's no Harry Potter want. It doesn't just show up
Speaker 3: that way. It's and we literally, with our energy, with
Speaker 3: our effort and with our commitment, can build what we want.
Speaker 3: But we have to go do the building. And the
Speaker 3: addiction to mediocrity is giving up on that. We've been
Speaker 3: sort of socialized that everything needs to be solved in
Speaker 3: the length of a TV sitcom, and it doesn't happen
Speaker 3: that way. And when it doesn't, it's like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: too hard, it must not be the right thing. And
Speaker 3: the answer is, nobody falls up that mountain you got
Speaker 3: to climb.
Speaker 2: So how do we do that? How do you go
Speaker 2: from a dream to a goal? How do you do that?
Speaker 1: Do you do that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: One of the things that I took out of all
Speaker 3: my years of executiveness and all that jazz is consultant
Speaker 3: and in different countries is the steps to success. I
Speaker 3: don't care what the goal is, they're the same. And
Speaker 3: there are five steps to success, and that's what I
Speaker 3: wrote about in the Results Equation, and the process is
Speaker 3: to just The five terms are understand the present, meaning
Speaker 3: understand where you are. The second term is me mental earthquake,
Speaker 3: because you've got to create power to create change. The
Speaker 3: third step and there's specifics in the book about how
Speaker 3: to do all those. The third step is to create
Speaker 3: the future, and that means create a compelling vision in
Speaker 3: your mind that's so powerful that it perpetually fires the
Speaker 3: drive to make it real. The fourth step is courageous planning,
Speaker 3: which is a very specific process about lining out the
Speaker 3: steps as best you know in between where you are
Speaker 3: right now and where you're trying to get, and then
Speaker 3: figuring out the right processes to do each one. And
Speaker 3: the last one is relentless execution, which is not about grinding.
Speaker 3: It's more about mindset and understanding failure or setbacks as
Speaker 3: simply data points instead of personal indictments, which when we
Speaker 3: interpret them that way, drives us toward that mediocrity. So
Speaker 3: those five steps in great detail in the book will
Speaker 3: let you accomplish any goal you want. Whether it's write
Speaker 3: in twenty books or I have ninety seven songs in
Speaker 3: commercial release, It doesn't matter. Whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2: You can have.
Speaker 1: So, Kellen, what was your biggest takeaway from your conversation
Speaker 1: with God?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh, to hang on one second, Sorry about that, Sorry
Speaker 1: about that, Kellen, what was your biggest takeaway personally from
Speaker 1: the conversations with God?
Speaker 2: What did you change in your own life?
Speaker 3: There were four things that came from that, and it
Speaker 3: you know, it's indescribable what that feels like and looks like.
Speaker 3: But the number one thing is each of us are intentionally,
Speaker 3: lovingly created divine beings, not maybe not sort of.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 3: Number two is we have a mission and a purpose
Speaker 3: that we not only agreed to, but we were stoked
Speaker 3: about before we came. Number three, the gifts and talents
Speaker 3: that we need to do that and enjoy that were
Speaker 3: given to us. And number four, all the help we
Speaker 3: need is available from both sides of that door. And
Speaker 3: I call it a door because the conversation has literally
Speaker 3: took place at a doorway. And so those four things
Speaker 3: just keep me focus, fired up, and clear because I
Speaker 3: know those are true, like life and breath.
Speaker 1: Kellen, I'm gonna make sure Kellen Flukeger is my guest.
Speaker 1: You can find a link to his website to find
Speaker 1: out more about all this stuff.
Speaker 2: Kellen.
Speaker 1: Fascinating conversation. I really appreciate your time today.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, and I've enjoyed meeting you
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: Thank you