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<v Speaker 1>My next guest has I mean to say. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>prolific author. He's written more than twenty books, including the

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<v Speaker 1>bestseller The Results Equation From Dream to Done in five

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<v Speaker 1>Simple Steps.

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<v Speaker 2>He now travels the.

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<v Speaker 1>World and spends his time trying to help other people

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<v Speaker 1>live their very best lives. And if you're feeling a

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<v Speaker 1>little stuck, you're definitely going to want to hear this

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Kelln Fluekicker joining me now from beautiful Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>our friends to the North.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Kellen, Welcome to the show. Mandy.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me, appreciate being here with you today.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to start our conversation with a little

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<v Speaker 1>about your backstory, because you weren't always the positive, upbeat

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<v Speaker 1>guy trying to help other people lead.

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<v Speaker 2>Their best lives. How did you get here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was a typical got to go pursue the

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<v Speaker 3>corporate ladder, get all that stuff. I did that for decades,

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<v Speaker 3>and the chief C suite stuff in the United States

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<v Speaker 3>and in Canada and so forth. But behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>my life is a wreck. I was living in self sabotage,

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<v Speaker 3>struggling with mental illness, depression, and ended up with addictions

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<v Speaker 3>and failed relationships and a nightmare of a story of

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<v Speaker 3>all kinds. And finally, in two thousand and seven, here

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<v Speaker 3>I turned fifty two, I had a divine intervention that

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<v Speaker 3>invited me to change direction. I radically stopped and turned

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<v Speaker 3>in a new way and literally started life over again.

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<v Speaker 3>And for the last eighteen years, I've become the person

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<v Speaker 3>that does all the stuff you just described.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot to pack into eighteen years, twenty books,

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<v Speaker 1>right there, is pretty impressive. Let's talk about that divine intervention.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that your near death experience?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that happened eleven years later. The divine intervention could

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<v Speaker 3>have been. It just wasn't life threatening, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>like that. It was some an incredible out of body

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<v Speaker 3>experience that made me take a new perspective on how

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<v Speaker 3>I'd been living my life and invited me literally with

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<v Speaker 3>the words, it is enough to change. And so I did,

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<v Speaker 3>and without having any idea of how to do it

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<v Speaker 3>or where to go or anything. And so I just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of walked off in a new direction and a

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<v Speaker 3>commitment that I'm going to a new way of life

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<v Speaker 3>in a new place, and have not deviated in the

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<v Speaker 3>last eighteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, doing this show for as long as I've

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<v Speaker 1>had my own show for over twenty years now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've had the opportunity to talk to people, multiple people

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<v Speaker 1>who have had a near death experience or an experience

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<v Speaker 1>like yours where they call it a divine intervention. And

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<v Speaker 1>I never get tired of hearing about the power of

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<v Speaker 1>God to move us in the right direction if we

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<v Speaker 1>just listen, right, I mean, isn't it We've got to listen,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk, if we could go ahead?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, that's exactly right. They are invitations. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>do the work. It didn't heal my mental illness, it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't heal my addictions, but the invitation was so powerful

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<v Speaker 3>that the answer was I'm going I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>I have to do, I don't know where I have

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<v Speaker 3>to go, et cetera. And the near death experience was

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen or eleven years later, in twenty eighteen, that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the excellent illness. I got a fatal illness

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<v Speaker 3>and an infection and died in the ic. You and

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<v Speaker 3>Ben had conversations with God, three of them, and those

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<v Speaker 3>conversations affirmed powerfully what I'd been doing for the eleven

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<v Speaker 3>years and made me even more ridiculously committed if that

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<v Speaker 3>could have been possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about your strategies for helping people, because

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<v Speaker 1>I love your concept that we have created a culture

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<v Speaker 1>of mediocrity. And this is the conversation I have a

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old daughter, and that I have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with my daughter about trying to balance.

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<v Speaker 2>The urge or the.

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<v Speaker 1>Push for perfectionism with also not accepting mediocrity. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>tell me a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 3>About that, Well, mediocrity is the idea that, eh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>as good as it gets, and it shows up in

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<v Speaker 3>the form of I'm not good enough, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>There's people that have the breaks or better things than

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<v Speaker 3>I do. And the truth is you, me, each of us,

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<v Speaker 3>your daughter, my kids, they have the ability to create

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<v Speaker 3>the life we want to have. We just have to

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<v Speaker 3>adopt that viewpoint and then start taking incremental steps like

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<v Speaker 3>there's no Harry Potter want. It doesn't just show up

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<v Speaker 3>that way. It's and we literally, with our energy, with

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<v Speaker 3>our effort and with our commitment, can build what we want.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have to go do the building. And the

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<v Speaker 3>addiction to mediocrity is giving up on that. We've been

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<v Speaker 3>sort of socialized that everything needs to be solved in

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<v Speaker 3>the length of a TV sitcom, and it doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 3>that way. And when it doesn't, it's like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>too hard, it must not be the right thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>the answer is, nobody falls up that mountain you got

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<v Speaker 3>to climb.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do we do that? How do you go

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<v Speaker 2>from a dream to a goal? How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that I took out of all

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<v Speaker 3>my years of executiveness and all that jazz is consultant

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<v Speaker 3>and in different countries is the steps to success. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care what the goal is, they're the same. And

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<v Speaker 3>there are five steps to success, and that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote about in the Results Equation, and the process is

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<v Speaker 3>to just The five terms are understand the present, meaning

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<v Speaker 3>understand where you are. The second term is me mental earthquake,

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<v Speaker 3>because you've got to create power to create change. The

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<v Speaker 3>third step and there's specifics in the book about how

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<v Speaker 3>to do all those. The third step is to create

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<v Speaker 3>the future, and that means create a compelling vision in

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<v Speaker 3>your mind that's so powerful that it perpetually fires the

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<v Speaker 3>drive to make it real. The fourth step is courageous planning,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a very specific process about lining out the

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<v Speaker 3>steps as best you know in between where you are

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<v Speaker 3>right now and where you're trying to get, and then

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<v Speaker 3>figuring out the right processes to do each one. And

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<v Speaker 3>the last one is relentless execution, which is not about grinding.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more about mindset and understanding failure or setbacks as

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<v Speaker 3>simply data points instead of personal indictments, which when we

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<v Speaker 3>interpret them that way, drives us toward that mediocrity. So

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<v Speaker 3>those five steps in great detail in the book will

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<v Speaker 3>let you accomplish any goal you want. Whether it's write

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty books or I have ninety seven songs in

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<v Speaker 3>commercial release, It doesn't matter. Whatever you want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Kellen, what was your biggest takeaway from your conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with God?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, to hang on one second, Sorry about that, Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>about that, Kellen, what was your biggest takeaway personally from

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations with God?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you change in your own life?

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<v Speaker 3>There were four things that came from that, and it

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's indescribable what that feels like and looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>But the number one thing is each of us are intentionally,

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<v Speaker 3>lovingly created divine beings, not maybe not sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 3>Number two is we have a mission and a purpose

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<v Speaker 3>that we not only agreed to, but we were stoked

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<v Speaker 3>about before we came. Number three, the gifts and talents

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<v Speaker 3>that we need to do that and enjoy that were

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<v Speaker 3>given to us. And number four, all the help we

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<v Speaker 3>need is available from both sides of that door. And

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<v Speaker 3>I call it a door because the conversation has literally

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<v Speaker 3>took place at a doorway. And so those four things

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<v Speaker 3>just keep me focus, fired up, and clear because I

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<v Speaker 3>know those are true, like life and breath.

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen, I'm gonna make sure Kellen Flukeger is my guest.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find a link to his website to find

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<v Speaker 1>out more about all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Kellen.

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<v Speaker 1>Fascinating conversation. I really appreciate your time today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me, and I've enjoyed meeting you

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you
