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Speaker 1: It is uh Cinco de mayo, paison amigos. Great show
Speaker 1: for you today. In the first hour, somebody.
Speaker 2: I've I've done a bunch interviews with who's at the
Speaker 2: center right If you watched anything I know, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do this to you, a little entertainment news, but we'll.
Speaker 1: Go from there.
Speaker 2: We'll unravel the whole thing because I know, like me,
Speaker 2: you're a little bit hooked on the Johnny depp amber
Speaker 2: turd trial.
Speaker 1: Did I just let my bias leak?
Speaker 2: I can't stop myself, I can't look away. It is
Speaker 2: the worst car accident reality show, well, maybe the best
Speaker 2: reality show.
Speaker 1: In the worst car accident you just.
Speaker 2: Can't stop paying attention to. And it's consumed all the media.
Speaker 2: So I have psychiatrists and media expert doctor Carol Lieberman
Speaker 2: joining us in about twenty some minutes here at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the hour. In the first hour, and we'll
Speaker 2: get into some of that. I know you guys are like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear any entertainment.
Speaker 1: Yes you do. No, you can't look away either.
Speaker 2: In fact, if you're gonna listen to this later, it's
Speaker 2: probably because you're watching the trial live as we speak.
Speaker 1: Also on the show.
Speaker 2: Today, my old buddy Greg Pallace joins us. He's an
Speaker 2: investigative reporter and, like doctor Lieberman, a best selling author
Speaker 2: multiple times over. He will join us live from his
Speaker 2: bunker in Los Angeles in the second hour of the broadcast. Today,
Speaker 2: Man and speaking of victim parades, speaking of theater of Matts,
Speaker 2: I guess we'll just do the news for the first hour.
Speaker 1: I always have this huge.
Speaker 2: Amount of news. I remember back in the old days,
Speaker 2: we would print it out.
Speaker 1: It's like the.
Speaker 2: Commercial for the insurance company. You know, how not to
Speaker 2: be your dad. You don't have to print the internet. Well,
Speaker 2: that's what we used. We used to do that. It
Speaker 2: was an absurd waste of paper. I think somewhere the
Speaker 2: fat man in Texas is still doing that because you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta have the paper and a shuffler around.
Speaker 2: It makes it look, makes it more dramatic. Here here's
Speaker 2: my paper. Here's all of documents I have. Can you
Speaker 2: hear them?
Speaker 3: All?
Speaker 1: Right? Probably not that I subscribe to Quiet Paper. That's
Speaker 1: something I'm into.
Speaker 2: So I guess we got to start right off with
Speaker 2: the whole abortion politics.
Speaker 1: I hate doing this. I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to take aside this is the new
Speaker 2: thing that you're only allowed to talk about a certain
Speaker 2: way of course as a avowed heterodox.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get docks for this. I have to
Speaker 1: weigh in on.
Speaker 2: It because the hysteria is massive. I used to call
Speaker 2: this vomit politics. And that's not to make light of
Speaker 2: a women's right to choose how she deals with her
Speaker 2: own body. This is gonna make some of you mad.
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent for it. I think we should
Speaker 2: all have a right to choose what we do with
Speaker 2: the key piece of property. Remember that our constitution is
Speaker 2: life liberty and property and by the way, the pursuit
Speaker 2: of happiness. What a joke that kind of is. But
Speaker 2: if you're born rich, I'm sure you believe that. And
Speaker 2: let's face it, the guys that wrote the Constitution were
Speaker 2: a little bit rich and privileged.
Speaker 1: I'm not going there.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of where I need to start with
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court Rowe versus Wade, and how the states
Speaker 2: are dealing with abortion. But let's remember that this is
Speaker 2: vomit politics. Gun rights and that's an actual second Amendment
Speaker 2: that's actually in the Bill of Rights, but that can
Speaker 2: be used for vomit politics as well. This is a
Speaker 2: vomit politic. Is the thing that distracts you from and
Speaker 2: you fight, and you divide, and they conquer versus you know,
Speaker 2: all the stuff that's.
Speaker 1: Very very very very very very very very.
Speaker 2: Very mucho important in your everyday lives. That's why we're here,
Speaker 2: that's why I came back, that's why we're doing this
Speaker 2: radio show today and any day. Man, we got to
Speaker 2: cut through this. We cannot let them derail us and
Speaker 2: distract us from the things that are very important to
Speaker 2: our families. I assume because I think I appealed to
Speaker 2: the working class more than the elite class. And if
Speaker 2: you were one of the elites, please stay with us
Speaker 2: and you can help us. I know some of these people,
Speaker 2: and Johnny Depp is one of those people. We'll get
Speaker 2: to that in about twenty minutes on the broadcast.
Speaker 1: So what is going on?
Speaker 2: So, first of all, a bunch of states with Republican
Speaker 2: governors and Republican legislatures started monkeying around with your right
Speaker 2: to have a late abortion, okay, and that was completely
Speaker 2: misrepresented and politiced to the extreme, But it wasn't enough
Speaker 2: because I don't think people were biting on that. So
Speaker 2: recently some document was allegedly and I've never seen a
Speaker 2: document leak like this from the Supreme Court, so I
Speaker 2: have to be very wary, and I got to think
Speaker 2: it's a little bit fishy that that even happened to
Speaker 2: begin with. We're gonna wait and see what happens there.
Speaker 2: But that's a whole other issue. So at first, what
Speaker 2: was happening was as a matter of red politic and
Speaker 2: it's all politics. The Republicans and Republican states were doing
Speaker 2: two things. One, they were getting rid of COVID mandates. Yay,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you disagree with me on that, but that's
Speaker 2: hurt people immeasurably, put people in a lot of debt
Speaker 2: and killed people, and it's still killing people today. They
Speaker 2: say that COVID is back. I mean, who knows where
Speaker 2: we're gonna go with this? So, I mean already mask
Speaker 2: mandates are starting to come back just after we got
Speaker 2: rid of them. It reminds you of how they pull
Speaker 2: the rug out of us, underneath us the first time.
Speaker 2: Oh it's over, COVID is over. Go back and watch
Speaker 2: a band and go out and enjoy your life again,
Speaker 2: and get a job again. You can have your job
Speaker 2: back now, maybe to on who you worked for. It
Speaker 2: didn't work out for me, didn't work out for my girl.
Speaker 2: We lost our jobs through COVID. That's a whole nother story.
Speaker 2: But but what were those state mandates saying? What were
Speaker 2: the laws that were being passed saying as opposed to
Speaker 2: what you heard and what you're allowed to talk about.
Speaker 2: So this is kind of a sticking point for me.
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent pro choice again, pro choice for
Speaker 2: the needles, pro choice for you.
Speaker 1: Know what you want to do with your body.
Speaker 2: If you're a woman, I'd like to see men have
Speaker 2: a little more you know, decision and be able to
Speaker 2: choose in that, but they can take precautions if they
Speaker 2: don't want to go into that realm. This has probably
Speaker 2: happened to a lot of you, and know what's happened.
Speaker 1: To me, and it's heartbreaking. I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 2: At the same time, we've got a lot of other
Speaker 2: things going on. One of them is massive overpopulation of
Speaker 2: the earth. And when I say that, I know it's
Speaker 2: going to trigger some of you. Well, he's now, Jack's
Speaker 2: a depopulation guy. No, it's not sustainable, and it just isn't.
Speaker 2: And the more people, as Elvis Huckley said in Brave
Speaker 2: New World Too, the more revisited. Thank you, you better
Speaker 2: read it. It's only about sixty seventy pages. Very important
Speaker 2: to read because the more people there are, the more
Speaker 2: draconian police and laws you have to have to control
Speaker 2: these masses amounts of people who are mounting against the
Speaker 2: committee of thirteen or three hundred, depending on how you count.
Speaker 1: Yeah, both of those things are real. Believe me on that.
Speaker 2: So what were these state bills saying? Well, without exception
Speaker 2: or with exception, there are exceptions. The health of the mother.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of exceptions into this. You being rich,
Speaker 2: because that's what it's about. If you're a rich girl
Speaker 2: or a rich dude, whatever, your parents are rich and connected,
Speaker 2: you're getting any abortion you want at any time. And
Speaker 2: that's how it's always been long before Roe versus Wait, and.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a minute, because that's not
Speaker 1: the important part.
Speaker 2: The important part is how the states are parsing this
Speaker 2: out and what the law actually says, and it says
Speaker 2: that unless you have an exception, you can't get an a.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm doing what are we anno? Ten
Speaker 1: minutes in?
Speaker 2: I you know, but I have to do it. Let's
Speaker 2: help you, guys if we can, and help me if
Speaker 2: you can. Let's help each other. It says you can't
Speaker 2: get an abortion after four months. That's the week's work
Speaker 2: out to that. So literally, you're in your second trimester,
Speaker 2: the baby sucking its thumb, it's a full it's it's
Speaker 2: a human at that point. We're not arguing about religion
Speaker 2: right now, are we. No.
Speaker 1: What we're doing is we're.
Speaker 2: Talking about a human being inside of you that you
Speaker 2: waited way too long to make that decision. So I
Speaker 2: just want to put it to you like this, all
Speaker 2: the people listening to this show right now, whoever you are,
Speaker 2: if you are pro choice as I am, do you
Speaker 2: want to see abortions at five months, at six months,
Speaker 2: seven months, eight nine months? Like, where's the cutoff point?
Speaker 2: I think you need to figure that out. I think
Speaker 2: you need to. I'm not gonna tell you to go
Speaker 2: out in protest or take a stand on it, but
Speaker 2: I think, within your own self, right with your own philosophy,
Speaker 2: and I guess you know your own take on life.
Speaker 1: Period, that's too late. There are times that that can happen.
Speaker 1: And I think, and I know a lot.
Speaker 2: Of people are very pro choice as well, and it's like,
Speaker 2: that's too late. Does a rational person believe that that's
Speaker 2: the time to abort the baby?
Speaker 1: It's too late? Now.
Speaker 2: The argument, and I've heard this argument, is well, sometimes
Speaker 2: you don't know you're pregnant until four or five months.
Speaker 1: And then it's too late. Well, that's kind of your problem.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you'll get an exception, you'll go
Speaker 2: to another state.
Speaker 1: That's why we have a tenth Amendment.
Speaker 2: That's why we've been have a lot less revolutions than
Speaker 2: say Rome or whatever, because you can own always go
Speaker 2: to another state, and if you're rich, obviously you'll fly
Speaker 2: in your jet there or they'll fly the doctor into
Speaker 2: you and that will be that. But the outrage and
Speaker 2: the stf unus.
Speaker 1: That's a shut the fuck upness.
Speaker 2: Of the people that have bought into and only live
Speaker 2: in a bubble on this establishment. Left wing media are
Speaker 2: going absolutely nuts on it, and I just want to
Speaker 2: ask each and every one of them. And I know
Speaker 2: they'll punch me in the face and call me a fascist.
Speaker 1: You shut up fascist. You're not allowed to say that.
Speaker 2: But I just want to ask them, like, look at
Speaker 2: the picture of the baby at four months, like you can't, Like,
Speaker 2: you gotta make that decision earlier on. You've got to
Speaker 2: practice either abstinence, I guess if you want, or birth
Speaker 2: control or whatever it is you do.
Speaker 1: That's too late to make that decision. Now.
Speaker 2: There's an interesting thing that permeates this discussion, and that
Speaker 2: is and I know I'm gonna get in trouble for
Speaker 2: this too. This is more stf unics. The vaccine has
Speaker 2: caused a fourth thout. We talked about this two weeks
Speaker 2: ago on the show. A four thousand percent increase according
Speaker 2: to you know, I think major sources like the CDC
Speaker 2: and others they've released these, but no, no one's talking
Speaker 2: about it on the news in miscarriages.
Speaker 1: What's that about.
Speaker 2: So now there was this leak document from the Supreme Court,
Speaker 2: which again I don't believe I've ever seen in my
Speaker 2: lifetime that they're going to overturn Roe versus Way. One
Speaker 2: thing to know about that before Debbie Row I think
Speaker 2: she died here not too long ago, but before that
Speaker 2: she was against it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the very person that.
Speaker 2: This is named for in her honor is against it.
Speaker 2: It is a federal protection which I wouldn't mind seeing
Speaker 2: stay aboard, and I'm gonna I'm very skeptical that that
Speaker 2: will be overturned. But yay, it's something to completely consume
Speaker 2: all the oxygen in the left wing media and that's
Speaker 2: all you can hear about, which is why I'm starting
Speaker 2: to show off with it today.
Speaker 1: But this is what you have to understand.
Speaker 2: And if it does go down and it does become
Speaker 2: a major social remember this is an issue that would
Speaker 2: affect a woman personally, and I get that. Believe me,
Speaker 2: I'm completely sympathetic with all of that. But it's a
Speaker 2: social issue that is behind I don't know healthcare for
Speaker 2: poor people. What's going on here in my city and
Speaker 2: in my state with regressive politics, regressive laws which make
Speaker 2: it almost impossible to live. That means go rent a place,
Speaker 2: go buy food, just go it work, just do the
Speaker 2: very basics in life.
Speaker 1: Pollution, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Talking about the green the phony green agenda, the real
Speaker 2: green agenda, which, of course you know, if you're corporate enough,
Speaker 2: you don't need to bother with. I'll talk to Greg
Speaker 2: about that in the second hour of the show today
Speaker 2: because he knows where.
Speaker 1: The bodies are buried.
Speaker 2: There are some how we are proceeding into new generations
Speaker 2: that will have to be responsible for going forward. These
Speaker 2: are the important issues, not I'm sorry, I know this
Speaker 2: is going to offend people. You can get you'll get
Speaker 2: an abortion if you want one, Please don't. Please try
Speaker 2: not to get to that point. Please be responsible, and
Speaker 2: please educate. Let's educate people on how not to get
Speaker 2: to that point, and if they do, then that's how
Speaker 2: it goes. Because there are people that there are some
Speaker 2: people I can't stand, and some of those people are
Speaker 2: the and I know you guys have a religious conviction
Speaker 2: and you're crazy as molasses.
Speaker 1: But hey man, please don't go.
Speaker 2: Attack women at a planned parenthood facility and make them
Speaker 2: feel guilty about what they're doing.
Speaker 1: That's just sick and wrong. Don't do that.
Speaker 2: There's other ways you can do it, but you are
Speaker 2: now participating in vomit politics.
Speaker 1: Let's not do that.
Speaker 2: But the point I want to make before I leave
Speaker 2: this topic because it's just too much and I gotta
Speaker 2: move on. I don't even like talking about it. Quite frankly,
Speaker 2: I've asked the questions. I think that the money question
Speaker 2: is at what point is it not okay to get
Speaker 2: an abortion? But you know, and and rationally, speaking with
Speaker 2: common sense, I mean, let's we don't even have to
Speaker 2: make it illegal.
Speaker 1: And that's maybe wrong right there, but.
Speaker 2: Let's, you know, let's make it to something educational and social.
Speaker 2: But what I find interesting is that whenever the Democrats
Speaker 2: are in control, they're supposed to be anti war, we
Speaker 2: have wars. Whenever the Democrats are in control, we lose
Speaker 2: personal and social rights. These whatever the Democrats say they
Speaker 2: for therefore, are the things we lose. That works. With
Speaker 2: the Republicans, they say they're pro gun, all the pro
Speaker 2: gun laws that I've ever seen come from Republicans. You
Speaker 2: see how they work it, because if a Republican administration
Speaker 2: sat above all of this that we've been talking about
Speaker 2: now unfortunately for the last fifteen twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: The attacks.
Speaker 2: Would be absolutely absurd. As I'm saying this, let me
Speaker 2: just Shift I was watching. Speaking of Shift, we'll get
Speaker 2: to Shifty in a minute here, just watching Ran Paul.
Speaker 2: That's Ron Paul's son, who have done many events with
Speaker 2: and no personally testifying about. This is the new thing
Speaker 2: thanks to Elon Musk, and that's something we'll get to
Speaker 2: here pretty soon with our second, our first guest, because
Speaker 2: that plays into the the whole Johnny Depp trial thing.
Speaker 2: Ran Paul speaking out against the new policy. This is
Speaker 2: a new arm of the government. Welcome, thank you for
Speaker 2: doing this. They are the the Information Ministry of Information,
Speaker 2: I guess as that how George Orwell put it like,
Speaker 2: they've been doing this and using tech and you know
Speaker 2: they scratch each other's back or butts or whatever. They
Speaker 2: scratch it on each other. There is a new disinformation
Speaker 2: board at your government, at Homeland Security, which I want
Speaker 2: you to remember we were wholly and completely against. And
Speaker 2: this goes back to what I was just saying a
Speaker 2: second ago. The the Republicans, Republicrats, they don't want a
Speaker 2: big government, yet they invented homeland security, which is a massive,
Speaker 2: bloaded nineteen eighty four style, brave New World kleptocracy. I
Speaker 2: love when Biden was trying to say that the other day.
Speaker 2: And of course here I go again with the non sequiturs.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess we don't.
Speaker 2: The kids today haven't read nineteen eighty four. They don't
Speaker 2: know what news speak is so much so it was
Speaker 2: watching one of the shows cover this and they were
Speaker 2: mentioning nineteen eighty four and they didn't even know that
Speaker 2: it was news speak. They didn't know that word. They
Speaker 2: I can't remember something else speak, they said, But I mean,
Speaker 2: we need to know that it's this isn't everything we're
Speaker 2: talking about on this show, and everything we will talk
Speaker 2: about on the show is.
Speaker 1: Really what it is.
Speaker 2: It's new speak, and it is state intervention on what
Speaker 2: you're allowed to say or think or participate in today.
Speaker 2: Was it Chucky Schumer, No, it was Joe Biden. Poor
Speaker 2: elderly abused Joe Biden pushed out to talk about how
Speaker 2: MAGA are basically all terrorists, and I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: some of them are.
Speaker 1: Well, that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: They have a Ministry of Disinformation. I mean, could they
Speaker 2: be more plain if they have called it the Ministry
Speaker 2: of Information? I guess it would have been a little
Speaker 2: bit too Orwellian. But they call it the Ministry of
Speaker 2: Disinformation because how they're going to correct you and what
Speaker 2: they're going to be, uh, I guess clamping down on
Speaker 2: how you say things and what you say is they're
Speaker 2: going to be pushing disinformation. They want disinformation to rule
Speaker 2: the day, and that's that. And I think most of you,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're listening to the show, I assume
Speaker 2: I'm somewhat preaching to the choir. Are they telling you
Speaker 2: exactly what they're doing. It's the Ministry of Disinformation.
Speaker 1: Allegedly out to solve the world problem of too much
Speaker 1: information going out, too much disinformation. That's the problem we have.
Speaker 1: That's why we're in just isn't that true? Now? You
Speaker 1: better agree with this or we'll have to come to
Speaker 1: your house and question you and look at your papers.
Speaker 2: Is that the biggest problem in the world. Now, we've
Speaker 2: just tackled two of them. One is a vomit, politics, abortion,
Speaker 2: and the other is information disinformation and sorry, the information
Speaker 2: war Hey listen, I fight for information peace. That's really
Speaker 2: what we try to do here. I don't want any
Speaker 2: part of information warfare. I want to be part of
Speaker 2: information piece. As a good friend of mine one said,
Speaker 2: you can't fight for piece, you have to piece for peace.
Speaker 2: Are the people going to stand up to that? Look
Speaker 2: what it's come to. Dave Chappelle was it last night?
Speaker 2: He was at the Hollywood Bowl, place I've been too
Speaker 2: many times and just really lived just on top of
Speaker 2: the mountain over there, could look out my back door
Speaker 2: and see it decades ago, hanging out with all of
Speaker 2: his buddies and doing a massive, sold out and very
Speaker 2: expensive show, at which point he mentions something about how
Speaker 2: he's been censored in etc.
Speaker 1: Etc.
Speaker 2: How the Ministry of disinformation could be sicked on him,
Speaker 2: how he's trying to be compromised and killed. I say
Speaker 2: that metaphorically, though, Hey, maybe they better.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what was up with this. Who knows.
Speaker 2: Maybe this was an assassination attempt. Maybe this was mk Ultra.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was, because I have absolutely no
Speaker 2: information of that. What I do know is that the
Speaker 2: deranged man that ran onto the stage a giant to
Speaker 2: tackle and potentially kill Dave Chappelle did so with zero
Speaker 2: security watching the two aisles that could lead to the
Speaker 2: stage where this man can just get his wood ran
Speaker 2: right up there, no problem. So it was a little
Speaker 2: bit of a standdown. That's always, you know, one of
Speaker 2: the things that ticked my brain when I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: what could possibly be a false flag, and I know
Speaker 2: I don't want to be conspiratorial. Let's just like keep
Speaker 2: it the way the news is allowing us to say it.
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle was tackled by a deranged man. He was
Speaker 2: some kind of a rapper and publicity seeker. So either
Speaker 2: you know that guy was put in a room and
Speaker 2: given all kinds of drugs and then being told and
Speaker 2: given suggestions to do something like that to take out
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle, which would have been a great story to
Speaker 2: cover up all the other stories, and then we'd be
Speaker 2: talking about that now for weeks. It was an assassination
Speaker 2: attempt potentially on one of the most popular public speakers.
Speaker 1: Not just now but of our time.
Speaker 2: Or he was brainwashed through the TV, through the media,
Speaker 2: and through social media that if I want to be
Speaker 2: popular and people will love me, I'll just go get
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle. He had a gun, which wasn't a real gun,
Speaker 2: but it was a knife.
Speaker 1: Gotta get one of those.
Speaker 2: And he ran backstage and Dave's friends, including the other Fox,
Speaker 2: not Red Fox, but Jamie Fox in.
Speaker 1: A cowboy hat. As they say, I got a good
Speaker 1: story about Jamie Fox. I gotta tell someday.
Speaker 2: But and a bunch of other celebrities boot stumped this guy.
Speaker 2: Boot broke his arm, collapsed his face. There was a
Speaker 2: second head out of one of his heads. He looked
Speaker 2: like this happened to me. So that's how I know
Speaker 2: his orbital bone was broken. I mean, his nose is broken.
Speaker 2: That's what's gonna happen. I guess, you know. And I
Speaker 2: in some ways I kind of like that almost vigilante. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't need secure. I mean I'm playing the Hollywood
Speaker 2: Bowl at a huge event, a star set of event.
Speaker 2: I should have some security. I hope this is a
Speaker 2: message to Dave Chappelle that like JFK or RFK or
Speaker 2: MLK Malcolm X, you know you're especially if you're a
Speaker 2: HEATERO dox and you know that means you don't believe
Speaker 2: in Orthodox or the opposite of Orthodox, and you're out
Speaker 2: there saying some things that are very thought provoking. Joe Rogan,
Speaker 2: I don't like to name people because there's so many
Speaker 2: and they fall on both sides of the political spectrum,
Speaker 2: or all sides or none at all. But this might
Speaker 2: be kind of a lesson for Dave Chappelle to have
Speaker 2: a lot more security. But they have handled it, They
Speaker 2: completely handled it, and it was kind of funny and entertaining.
Speaker 2: I guess it because fake are real is the whole
Speaker 2: issue mental illness and how is mental illness created? I mean,
Speaker 2: do we find out that this guy who tried to
Speaker 2: attack Dave Chappelle the other night last night, I guess
Speaker 2: is on SSRIs as serotonin reuptake inhibitors. Is that what
Speaker 2: we're gonna find out because that's usually the case. And
Speaker 2: having work security myself for years and years and years
Speaker 2: and decades right in some of the worst neighborhoods ever,
Speaker 2: I could tell.
Speaker 1: You that is an issue.
Speaker 2: That's the new I guess policy is instead of helping people,
Speaker 2: you come in and it's very cheap to give them
Speaker 2: some drugs. Some SSRI's hope that they keep taking them
Speaker 2: and don't go completely nuts and just turn them back
Speaker 2: out on the street for people like me to deal with.
Speaker 2: Is this part of celebrity culture? You just you're gonna
Speaker 2: be famous, This will make you famous. Will that guy's
Speaker 2: famous and he's he's fed up, completely effed up? But
Speaker 2: who are the fascists?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: If this is all real and the guy's cognizant and
Speaker 2: he's just part of the antifa.
Speaker 1: Pete crowd or whatever.
Speaker 2: If he's really serious about his politics and transgenderism and
Speaker 2: all the rest of it. And keeping in mind that,
Speaker 2: you know, the allegations against Dave Chappelle, who's doing jokes right,
Speaker 2: he's not a politician, are completely false.
Speaker 1: But let's you know, for whatever reason, who are the
Speaker 1: real fascist?
Speaker 2: I guess I'll know because after this half hour, I'm
Speaker 2: probably going to get a whole bunch of mail, all
Speaker 2: the news I didn't get to. We'll try to handle it.
Speaker 2: There's a new press secretary today from MSNBC, Karine Jean Pierre.
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Speaker 2: So I've been completely hooked, and I'll admit a little
Speaker 2: bit is slightly addicted, not because it's a celebrity trial,
Speaker 2: but because the cultural implications of it and some of
Speaker 2: it just really hits home. Can we be ourselves and
Speaker 2: can we be ourselves without being in core? And of
Speaker 2: course I'm talking about the Johnny Depp amber Heard versus
Speaker 2: Amber Heard defamation, defecation.
Speaker 1: Trial and defamation trial. That's it. Doctor Carol Lieberman is
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: She served as a forensic psychiatrist and expert witness in
Speaker 2: hundreds of civil and criminal cases nationwide, including domestic violence cases.
Speaker 2: We've seen some of those witnesses in this trial today.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about that. She's a media
Speaker 2: commentator on Crimes and Trials. She writes a column entitled
Speaker 2: Inside the Criminal Mind that is front Page Detectives dot com.
Speaker 2: Expert witness forensic Psychiatrist dot com doctor Carol Lieberman joins us,
Speaker 2: and you're also, I know, a best selling author as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 7: Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 2: It's great to have you because I've just been watching
Speaker 2: you dude commentary all over the place and they asked
Speaker 2: me if you could come on the show, and I'm
Speaker 2: absolutely one hundred percent for it because I know you
Speaker 2: are the real expert.
Speaker 1: Where do we start with this?
Speaker 2: Can we can we start with the not celebrity, but
Speaker 2: the kind of social implications.
Speaker 1: Why is this so popular?
Speaker 2: Is it because it's reality TV and it's we're watching
Speaker 2: it happen live in front of us? Or is it
Speaker 2: because that a lot of people kind of identify with
Speaker 2: this one way or the other.
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I'll say that I am addicted
Speaker 7: also like you at the beginning. It has taken over
Speaker 7: me my life because yes I am commenting on it,
Speaker 7: writing columns on it and all kinds of things. But
Speaker 7: you know, try to even if I didn't have to
Speaker 7: do this, which I enjoyed, but even If I wasn't
Speaker 7: doing that, I would probably be addicted because it is
Speaker 7: so fascinating to watch these people. It doesn't really matter
Speaker 7: that they're celebrities. I mean, sure, that's why, you know,
Speaker 7: that's why more people are paying attention to it. But
Speaker 7: I mean just a whole domes.
Speaker 1: Did we just lose her or did we lose me?
Speaker 2: No, you're still here. Okay, Well I don't think that's
Speaker 2: a government conspiracy. That might just be la to Seattle
Speaker 2: to the east coast try to get her back.
Speaker 1: Do you have to hang up on me to get
Speaker 1: her back?
Speaker 8: Or you know what, that's what we'll do.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, play something of the new time you got.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're back cell phone technology in the twenty first century.
Speaker 1: You think it might be a little bit better.
Speaker 2: But please, doctor Carroll, you know, stand in place if
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 1: I don't know you live in a PSI.
Speaker 7: I wasn't touching it. I have it on a box
Speaker 7: on my desk at a good height, so I never
Speaker 7: touch it.
Speaker 1: Okay, it might be me at what I said the
Speaker 1: first half hour before you came behind. That gets me
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 2: Uh, but you know, and I know this fits very
Speaker 2: well with today's culture, the me too culture, and there
Speaker 2: are a lot of people that are invested in this
Speaker 2: trial because of the implications of me too. But you've
Speaker 2: kind of coined a term called he too. And maybe
Speaker 2: this is why people are so fascinated by the Johnny
Speaker 2: depp amber Heard defamation trial.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not.
Speaker 2: Something we hear about that is publicized very much, but
Speaker 2: it is something that exists, that happens, and I like
Speaker 2: to look at it as you know, nailing a powerful
Speaker 2: man and then controlling him any way you can. In
Speaker 2: this case, I think that's exactly what's going on. But
Speaker 2: you tell me, I mean, you are the forensic psychiatrist
Speaker 2: and the expert.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, yes, I think that she I don't
Speaker 7: think that she was, even though this is what she's
Speaker 7: been talking about all day, how madly in love.
Speaker 1: With him she was.
Speaker 7: But I don't think that it was love primarily that
Speaker 7: got her to go out with him and marry him.
Speaker 7: I mean, she went through this whole thing today about
Speaker 7: all these alleged horrible physical uh you know, abuse that
Speaker 7: he he perpetrated on her, and then and then she
Speaker 7: still married him. Now that isn't to say. I mean,
Speaker 7: it is true that people who are in domestic violence situations.
Speaker 7: Sometimes they do they keep hoping that the person is
Speaker 7: going to change, and sometimes they do stay with them.
Speaker 7: There are lots of reasons, especially for women, for why
Speaker 7: they stay. They're you know, they're shamed, and they're they're
Speaker 7: made to feel as though nobody else and all of that.
Speaker 7: But I think that she wanted to be uh connected
Speaker 7: with him that raised her status in Hollywood, you know,
Speaker 7: to be on his arm, to be his girlfriend, and
Speaker 7: of course then to be his wife. And then she jumped,
Speaker 7: you know, as soon as that was over, she jumped
Speaker 7: to Elon Musk. And there was some in between, but
Speaker 7: Elon Musk, you know, Johnny Johnny Japp had mostly millions,
Speaker 7: but Elon Musk has billions. So she was, you know,
Speaker 7: making her social climbing. I really think that there were
Speaker 7: a lot of, you know, a lot of other reasons
Speaker 7: than love for her to be with him, and yes,
Speaker 7: he too. I mean, I hope that one of the
Speaker 7: long lasting effects of this is that people will see man,
Speaker 7: especially will see that after he gave testified and told
Speaker 7: the most intimate, you know, embarrassing stories about his life
Speaker 7: from the time he was a child and his mother
Speaker 7: was physically and emotionally abusive to him, to all of
Speaker 7: the things that happened with Amber, and yet he had
Speaker 7: the courage to talk about all this, which is why.
Speaker 7: And that's the problem with men. There are lots and
Speaker 7: lots of men who are in abusive relationships by women,
Speaker 7: but they are ashamed to come forward because it makes
Speaker 7: them look weak. They don't want to admit to people
Speaker 7: that they are being abused, especially physically abused by a woman.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That reminds me of why. And there's been some work
Speaker 2: on this why Catholic priests, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: single them out, because there's a lot of good priests
Speaker 2: and there are some very very bad ones. And one
Speaker 2: of the reasons they pick on boys isn't because they're
Speaker 2: so much homosexual and repressed, let's add that part, but
Speaker 2: because they know that the boys will be too embarrassed to.
Speaker 1: Talk about it.
Speaker 2: And I think that that applies guy in this case
Speaker 2: where women abuse men, and they can abuse men, and
Speaker 2: men who I guess like Johnny Depp, like myself and
Speaker 2: others who would never hit a woman, can take a
Speaker 2: lot of abuse before something happens.
Speaker 7: Yes, I mean what this is really all about is
Speaker 7: that he married his mother. His mother was abusive and
Speaker 7: when she was he would run away and hide and
Speaker 7: to get away from the abuse. He never, of course,
Speaker 7: hit back at his mother. His father also was abused
Speaker 7: by his wife, you know, Johnny Depp's mother, and he
Speaker 7: never hit back either. And in fact, the father stayed
Speaker 7: in the marriage until Johnny Depp was fifteen, and then
Speaker 7: when he left, when the father left his mother, Johnny
Speaker 7: Depp's mother tried to commit suicide, which is another reason
Speaker 7: why Johnny Depp stayed in this relationship because he was
Speaker 7: afraid that was going to commit suicide because she would
Speaker 7: sometimes threaten that, but so that he would run away,
Speaker 7: like you know, he was kind of programmed to do
Speaker 7: from his childhood, and that triggered her because she has
Speaker 7: a borderline personality disorder. I don't care what the other
Speaker 7: psychologist said. She has a borderline personality of disorder, a
Speaker 7: mixed borderline histrionic and narcissistic personality disorder in my opinion,
Speaker 7: and so borderlines. Their number one symptom or trait is
Speaker 7: that they are terrified of being abandoned. When they are abandoned,
Speaker 7: it feels as though they cease, they feel as though
Speaker 7: they cease to exist. And so when he would run
Speaker 7: away from her abuse, that would be the trigger for
Speaker 7: her to become more abusive because she was terrified, oh,
Speaker 7: he's abandoning me, and she would do whatever she could.
Speaker 7: She'd run after him in all kinds of circumstances to
Speaker 7: get him to come back and not to leave her.
Speaker 2: You know, and the gas lighting involved in this, and
Speaker 2: I want to get to that in a second, because
Speaker 2: she seems to be kind of an expert in that,
Speaker 2: and that is a big issue today. Let me just
Speaker 2: say this, and I have to get this off my chest,
Speaker 2: Doctor Carroll, doctor Carrol Lieberman with us. So she is
Speaker 2: actually psychiatrist expert to forensic psychologist, host of Doctor Carroll's
Speaker 2: Couch of Voice America dot com, The Terrorist Therapist, that podcast.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a minute.
Speaker 2: I used to This is just a weird disclosure, but
Speaker 2: I used to live with Courtney Love, who was married
Speaker 2: to Kirk Cobain. I'm sure you know who those people are, okay,
Speaker 2: And her first.
Speaker 1: Husband was.
Speaker 2: So she's she reminds me of amberheard so much and
Speaker 2: I was involved in this relationship and she used to
Speaker 2: beat the crap out of her first husband, which was
Speaker 2: also a musician called Following James. In fact, once I
Speaker 2: had to save her from throwing them out of third
Speaker 2: story window in Hollywood, and this constantly happened.
Speaker 1: And what did she do when she was notorious for this?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Courtney Love.
Speaker 2: She traded up until she got the number one rock
Speaker 2: star ever. And because I knew him too, they had
Speaker 2: a very similar relationship to what I seekling on with
Speaker 2: Johnny Depp and Amber heard. In fact, she and maybe
Speaker 2: he liked it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm giving away too many secrets, but she would
Speaker 2: beat him and that would be part of kind of
Speaker 2: their sex routine which filtered out into their everyday life.
Speaker 2: And he wants to keep control. She wants to change
Speaker 2: him and turn him into her project and own him
Speaker 2: when it gets turned around in this trial. That's what
Speaker 2: we heard today from Amber Heard, who was dressed like
Speaker 2: a librarian today, poor her talking about how you know
Speaker 2: Johnny was the controller.
Speaker 7: When I think she was, yes, yes, And of course
Speaker 7: Kurt Cobain committed suicide right allegedly. Okay, Well, in any case,
Speaker 7: you know, one could see where being in in that
Speaker 7: kind of relationship one might consider doing that. Yes, it's
Speaker 7: it's really uh, there's you know.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 7: Also, what's interesting is that they met on the set
Speaker 7: of Rum Diary, which was a very particularly important project
Speaker 7: for Johnny Depp, and I think part of the way
Speaker 7: this whole thing started was where he saw her as
Speaker 7: perfectly fitting the role. And I think that from the
Speaker 7: beginning he kind of saw her in that role and
Speaker 7: as someone who she wasn't. In other words, and which
Speaker 7: happens a lot to Hollywood stars when they meet on set,
Speaker 7: that they see each other not as who they really are,
Speaker 7: but as whatever role they're playing, and they kind of
Speaker 7: continue on in those roles rather than who they the
Speaker 7: people actually are. You know, they think of them, they
Speaker 7: want them to be who the role is.
Speaker 2: You know, that is a really a student analysis. I'm
Speaker 2: so glad you brought that up. I don't think i've
Speaker 2: heard that take on it. That he was so intimately
Speaker 2: involved with the history and the legacy of Hunter S. Thompson,
Speaker 2: the Gonza, great writer who I also appreciate very much,
Speaker 2: and who also only allegedly committed suicide.
Speaker 1: We won't go there.
Speaker 2: You know that he he created this romantic vision of
Speaker 2: her that wasn't true. She was a social climber, She
Speaker 2: was very ambitious. She would have done anything in order
Speaker 2: to get what she wants. And to hear her testify,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm just gonna go. I'm wanna wait for
Speaker 2: the whole thing to come out. Okay, I want to
Speaker 2: make my decision at the end. But so far she
Speaker 2: hasn't apologized and taken any accountability for any of the
Speaker 2: things she's done, most of which were played on tape
Speaker 2: earlier in this trial.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, that's right. It is so hard to watch
Speaker 7: because it is so evident that she is lying. I mean,
Speaker 7: we know we've caught the the the case, and she
Speaker 7: caught her in a lot of lives to begin with,
Speaker 7: you know, from saying that she used a certain kind
Speaker 7: of makeup, and the makeup company Malaney came out and said, no,
Speaker 7: that makeup wasn't around in the years that she said
Speaker 7: she was using it to cover the bruises. There were
Speaker 7: so many other kinds of lives that she made. So
Speaker 7: now so we have this history of knowing about these
Speaker 7: lives and then she now acts like this on the stand,
Speaker 7: and and you can see the change when she first
Speaker 7: came out and she was telling about her childhood and
Speaker 7: about raking horses and going to school and you know,
Speaker 7: her road to becoming an actress. I mean that was
Speaker 7: in a very conversational, nice, you know, pleasant kind of tone.
Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden, when she started talking
Speaker 7: about Johnny Depp, that's when this quivering, this quivering ship
Speaker 7: and no tears to she've barely had tears. I think
Speaker 7: she was reading social media obviously talking about how there
Speaker 7: were no tears.
Speaker 1: So Doctor Carol, she yesterday or the day before, she
Speaker 1: fired her PR person and got a new PR person
Speaker 1: because she has just been taking it on the chin,
Speaker 1: no pun intended during this entire trial. It's not working
Speaker 1: out for it.
Speaker 2: At first, I thought this might be career suicide for
Speaker 2: Johnny Depp, who I just have a little bit of
Speaker 2: an affection for her. So I don't mind, you know,
Speaker 2: announcing my bias because we travel in some of the
Speaker 2: same circles.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just.
Speaker 2: I just don't think anyone's buying this. I don't think
Speaker 2: there's any PR agency that can cover up for what's happening.
Speaker 2: And the cross examining hasn't even happened to Amberhard which
Speaker 2: is you know, the money part of this trial.
Speaker 1: If people aren't watching it, they're gonna listen to this
Speaker 1: and go, what am I missing? What's happening? I think
Speaker 1: the most important thing to do that is let's solve
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: Let's provide an answer. How do we not get into this?
Speaker 2: And I understand we're talking about a.
Speaker 1: Guy who had you know, who had have.
Speaker 2: A billion dollars and one of the most famous people
Speaker 2: on the planet, But that could apply to me and you,
Speaker 2: that could apply to every one of my listeners. How
Speaker 2: do we not get into these kind of deranged, codependent relationships?
Speaker 2: Is there an answer for.
Speaker 1: Something like that? Well?
Speaker 7: Yes, I actually wrote a book. My first book was
Speaker 7: called Bad Boys, Why We Love Them, How to Live
Speaker 7: to Leave Them? And when I talked about twelve different
Speaker 7: types of bad boys, and one of them was the
Speaker 7: Prince of Darkness, and that was an abusive bad boy. Well,
Speaker 7: actually I should be talking about h I wrote a
Speaker 7: book after that called Bad Girls, Why Men Love Them
Speaker 7: and how good girls can learn their secrets and for
Speaker 7: both you know, whether it's a bad boy or bad girl.
Speaker 7: And by bad I met heartbreakers. It all has to
Speaker 7: do with your childhood. It has to do with what
Speaker 7: kind of a relationship you had with your mother, with
Speaker 7: your father. And for example, for women, whether they're attracted
Speaker 7: to a bad boy. And I am not saying that
Speaker 7: Johnny Depp is at He's not an abusive bad boy.
Speaker 7: He may well have been a heartbreaker. But what makes
Speaker 7: a woman be attracted to a bad boy is her
Speaker 7: relationship with her father, A dysfunctional relationship with her.
Speaker 2: Father, which has come out in the trial, that's come
Speaker 2: out in the trial. She's thrown her own father under
Speaker 2: the bus several times. I mean, this is very pitle,
Speaker 2: this is very Freudian. If you can continue for just
Speaker 2: another minute, because we're going to run out of time.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, so after women have been with bad boys
Speaker 7: enough times, or one bad boy that really broke her heart,
Speaker 7: then they decide that they are not lovable. They're not
Speaker 7: going to find a prince who loves them, and so
Speaker 7: they decide to go for somebody who can give them
Speaker 7: something else, whether it's a gold digger or you know,
Speaker 7: other something else that they need in their life. And
Speaker 7: so because so they've given up on love and they're
Speaker 7: they're getting something else, and that's you know, I think
Speaker 7: that that's what she has done, and she is the one.
Speaker 7: She is the bad girl, she is the heartbreaker and
Speaker 7: also the abuser.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would love to talk about because you've
Speaker 2: done two books on terrorism, we have to have you
Speaker 2: back just to talk about that. Doctor Carol Lieberman with
Speaker 2: us on the broadcast today on Voice America dot com,
Speaker 2: The Terrorist Therapist, the podcast Forensic Psychiatrists. You should be
Speaker 2: making five hundred dollars an hour doing this case, as
Speaker 2: some of the witnesses they are. But the gas lighting,
Speaker 2: this is something that is going on in it permeates
Speaker 2: all of our culture, whether we talk about how we
Speaker 2: talk about the pandemic, how we talk about to Russia
Speaker 2: versus Ukraine, how we talk about the abortion conversation going
Speaker 2: on right now. The gas lighting is this form of
Speaker 2: completely obliterating someone's credibility and then you know, obviously dosing
Speaker 2: them in the case of what we've seen happen to
Speaker 2: Johnny Depp, and then on top of it, just shutting
Speaker 2: you up, making you self censor yourself. I mean, it
Speaker 2: is a massive psychological mind game, the gas lighting that
Speaker 2: goes on. And she seems like, I guess the pinnacle
Speaker 2: of it. I mean, she gaslighted the crap out of
Speaker 2: Johnny Depp. Yes, yes, but talk about it in talk
Speaker 2: about it in a wide sense, if you could, Doctor Carroll,
Speaker 2: what's going on with our culture right now with this
Speaker 2: gas lighting?
Speaker 7: Well, yes, you know we are, we are being well,
Speaker 7: you know, I guess the biggest example is the Ministry
Speaker 7: of Information that is.
Speaker 1: Putting up disinformation. They're being honest, they uh you know, I.
Speaker 7: Mean yes, I mean the irony of that and the
Speaker 7: and the gas lighting of that, trying to make us
Speaker 7: feel that they're the ones who are going to be
Speaker 7: telling us the truth when they're the ones who are
Speaker 7: gaslighting us. I mean, it is just really you know,
Speaker 7: what they're trying to do is get everybody's head spinning,
Speaker 7: and they're doing a good job of it, so that
Speaker 7: then they can come in with the kind of society
Speaker 7: that they want to have that you know, they can
Speaker 7: destroy America basically, and with the cancel culture and every
Speaker 7: the CRT and the transgender and and just everything is
Speaker 7: really just destroying the American values and and our minds
Speaker 7: are you know, we were vulnerable after COVID first of all, uh,
Speaker 7: and isolation, lockdown and all of that, and then all
Speaker 7: of these crazy things, the protests that we're told, I mean,
Speaker 7: the riots that were told were peaceful protests. All these things.
Speaker 2: We're not allowed to think or say what we want.
Speaker 2: So final question with doctor Carol Lieberman, and I love
Speaker 2: having you on because you're very interesting and you're an expert,
Speaker 2: and we need experts to talk about things and break
Speaker 2: them down. Is doctor Jill gaslighting and beating Joe. I
Speaker 2: think this is elder abuse on so many levels. It's
Speaker 2: what's happening.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I don't know if she's physically.
Speaker 1: Beating Jesus handler is handled, I think she.
Speaker 7: I think she should be arrested for elder abuse because
Speaker 7: even if she isn't really physically doing anything to him,
Speaker 7: but she is letting him stay as president, making a
Speaker 7: fool of himself, getting America into World War three, and
Speaker 7: not getting him to a doctor, to a neurologist, to
Speaker 7: get a psychiatrist first to get tested, and then a
Speaker 7: neurologist to do, you know, Mr pet scans and figure
Speaker 7: out what kind of dementia he has.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even vote for him, doctor Carroll, but
Speaker 2: I felt complicit in this every time I watch him
Speaker 2: wandering around shaking invisible people's hands, and tripping over his
Speaker 2: own feed and and being embarrassed by uh Barack Obama
Speaker 2: and all the things that are happening, some of them
Speaker 2: have massive national security implications, and you know, but hey,
Speaker 2: everybody knows I'm.
Speaker 1: Hard on all the presidents.
Speaker 2: I was hard on Trump, and I was very hard
Speaker 2: on Bush and a little bit hard on Obama and
Speaker 2: all the rest of them. Like I'm an equal opportunity
Speaker 2: muck raker, and I think that makes me psychologically good. Right,
Speaker 2: you can diagnose me after this this conversation that I'm
Speaker 2: I'm I have decent mental health. Right, I'm I'm critically aware.
Speaker 7: Let's put it that way. I want to be. I
Speaker 7: was trying to warn people about Biden's encroaching dementia beginning
Speaker 7: when he was in the basement and running for president.
Speaker 7: I tried to warn people that this what's happening now
Speaker 7: was going to happen. I mean, I didn't foresee Afghanistan,
Speaker 7: that disaster, but I do foresee what happened after it,
Speaker 7: you know, with various leaders, our enemies coming after us
Speaker 7: because they see that he's not all there.
Speaker 1: You know, we went over and that's what I'm going
Speaker 1: to do with doctor Carrol Lieberman.
Speaker 2: Can't wait to have you back promote anything. What is
Speaker 2: the foremost thing you want to promote? And then I
Speaker 2: got to let you go.
Speaker 7: Sure, I guess the best thing is to go to
Speaker 7: my website. I have a few websites, but touristtherapist dot com.
Speaker 1: Cool. Cool.
Speaker 2: And then if you have an issue where you have
Speaker 2: to sue your ex wife for defamation, get Carol on
Speaker 2: for five an hour.
Speaker 7: Well, yes, I should have mentioned really my own my
Speaker 7: other website, which is expert Witness for six Psychiatrists dot com.
Speaker 1: Right, it's so good to have you. We've got to
Speaker 1: go to the top of the hour.
Speaker 2: UH international bestseller and underground UH investigative reporter Greg Palace
Speaker 2: joining us in the second hour.
Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Carrol. Take care. God're listening to the
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Speaker 1: My song, yeah, that song is Vultures Picnic by the
Speaker 1: band Fear Porn. I happen to be in that band,
Speaker 1: and uh he. Greg Palace is with us.
Speaker 2: Today from Rolling Stone, Guardian, BBC. Greg Pallace dot com
Speaker 2: best selling author of too many books to mention, but
Speaker 2: we will mention them on the broadcast today. But I
Speaker 2: wrote that song for you man, that that applies to
Speaker 2: your great book, Vulture's Picnic, which talks about how cartel
Speaker 2: capitalism has run them up in the Third World and
Speaker 2: nothing has change since then, Greg Pallace, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: Welcome, And where do I get my royalties for Vulture
Speaker 8: for the song? No, you're gonna give those to me
Speaker 8: when you when they make a movie of Vultures Picnic,
Speaker 8: which Johnny Depp should be in that.
Speaker 1: He absolutely should be in as opposed to out And
Speaker 1: I could I could? You know what, once in a while,
Speaker 1: I really need a good beating. Well, we won't go
Speaker 1: into that. Here we will go. I won't.
Speaker 2: I won't tell you my personal stuff. You don't share yours.
Speaker 2: But if you want to go ahead because it's good radio.
Speaker 9: No, No, I miss bad Pennie and I once in
Speaker 9: a while we do dress up like pirates once in
Speaker 9: a while.
Speaker 2: Arg Uh, yeah, that's when we go undercover. The eye
Speaker 2: patch it shifts on different eyes as people off.
Speaker 9: You actually was gonna use you know, John McEnroe is
Speaker 9: gonna work with me working under cover. He said, well,
Speaker 9: everyone recognized me and said that's the point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is true.
Speaker 9: And so we're gonna send him to this billionaire vulture's house.
Speaker 1: This guy was in Vultures.
Speaker 9: Picnic if you remember Doctor Herman, and he had this
Speaker 9: monster state.
Speaker 1: It was like bigger than the Vatican.
Speaker 9: And how are we gonna We noticed from satellite photos
Speaker 9: he had a tennis court.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna bring in macenroe and so we could.
Speaker 9: Film the guy and get on his estate and film
Speaker 9: him by saying, can we film you with John McEnroe.
Speaker 9: We're doing a reality show called so you think you are?
Speaker 9: You can play tennis? You know with the champ, you
Speaker 9: can beat the champ or something like that. But then
Speaker 9: that day was a freak snowstorm, so the the tennis
Speaker 9: kind of tennis whites were not appropriate.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's how you get to the elites
Speaker 2: golfer tennis, right.
Speaker 1: Were tennis? In fact? Actually, when.
Speaker 9: Air Force officer was saying, you know, when they're at
Speaker 9: the Air Force Academy, their officers kept telling him that
Speaker 9: he has to learn how.
Speaker 1: To play golf.
Speaker 9: He said, why, said, well, if you want a promotion,
Speaker 9: forget ability, just play.
Speaker 1: Golf with you're superiors. That's how you get a promotion.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: Forget about for the pads, you know, I mean that's
Speaker 9: the other way, you know, knee pads also were exactly.
Speaker 1: No, forget about Bohemian Grove and scull and bones.
Speaker 2: It's the golf courses that we should be very concerned about.
Speaker 2: Uh So, I don't even know where to start. Let's
Speaker 2: start with censorship, because you've got to know more about
Speaker 2: this than anyone else. You literally broke the story of
Speaker 2: the two thousand election. You were sent packing over to
Speaker 2: the London Guardian and no one would publish you, and
Speaker 2: you couldn't get on MSNBC, CNN, Fox like anywhere. And
Speaker 2: you went and did your work over there and wrote
Speaker 2: all your astounding books. But what is what is your view,
Speaker 2: Greg Pallace of the climate today with you know, say
Speaker 2: what we want or die?
Speaker 9: Well, I'd love to tell you, but then I wouldn't
Speaker 9: be allowed any social media sites or but no, okay, no,
Speaker 9: it's actually yeah, it is no joke because I ended
Speaker 9: up like you say so for those who don't know,
Speaker 9: I broke the story back in two thousand when Jeb
Speaker 9: Bush removed with a woman named Katherine Harris her real
Speaker 9: name is Cruela Deville, remove fifty eight thousand black men
Speaker 9: from the voter rolls of Florida just before the Gore
Speaker 9: Bush election. Fifty eight thousand black men because they had
Speaker 9: committed crimes there felons. And how do we know of
Speaker 9: their felons, Well, it says on the voter registration rolls
Speaker 9: b LA next to their name, which means fel I
Speaker 9: Actually it turns out it's supposed to mean black, but
Speaker 9: they consider that the same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 9: Of all the fifty eight thousand black men, and we
Speaker 9: know they're black, they really do say BLA next to
Speaker 9: their name because in Florida used to have to put
Speaker 9: your race on your registration form. And of the fifty
Speaker 9: eight thousand men that they accused of being ex cons
Speaker 9: who at the time couldn't vote in Florida, exactly zero
Speaker 9: zero we're illegal voters, zero out of fifty eight thousand.
Speaker 9: But Bush supposedly won Florida by just five hundred and
Speaker 9: thirty seven votes with those black men removed, and that
Speaker 9: gave him the presidency. So the presidency the United States
Speaker 9: has been stolen. So when you have schmucks like ads.
Speaker 1: Russia did that, Greg Russia did that.
Speaker 9: Oh Russia, Well, Putin has I think is more effective.
Speaker 9: You know, he was facing a kind of primary contest
Speaker 9: with Boris Nempsov who went.
Speaker 1: He went to the Kremlin and as he was crossing.
Speaker 9: The street, fore men came up and put bullets in
Speaker 9: the back of his head and in the back and
Speaker 9: also killed his great Ukrainian girlfriend right in front of
Speaker 9: the Kremlin, which happened to have all its security cameras
Speaker 9: turned off at that moment. They were repairing them. You
Speaker 9: know how they turn off the security cameras in front
Speaker 9: of the White House anyway.
Speaker 1: So that so, uh, Jeff Bush has not does not
Speaker 1: need to go to four bullets in the back of
Speaker 1: the head.
Speaker 9: He just takes fifty eight thousand black ballots and deep
Speaker 9: six is they're right to vote.
Speaker 1: But you're talking about censorship. But now censorship is the
Speaker 1: issue because I wrote that story on the front page
Speaker 1: of the freaking Guardian newspaper, the number one English language
Speaker 1: newspaper on the planet. No, not the New York Times.
Speaker 1: That's that's American parochialism.
Speaker 9: That that's the newsletter of of the Upper West Side elite.
Speaker 9: I'm talking about a newspaper, not a newsletter.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: And they put on the front page BBC News, which is,
Speaker 9: you know, the premier news channel on the planet. Put
Speaker 9: at the top of the BBC Nightly News. That's how
Speaker 9: Bush became president. And you couldn't get that in US
Speaker 9: newspapers if I took hostages. There was one mention in
Speaker 9: a column not in the news section, that this report
Speaker 9: had come out in England. But that was by a
Speaker 9: by a a columnist who was black. I say, who
Speaker 9: was black. He was a columnist. He's no longer a
Speaker 9: columnist for the New York Times. And when you talk
Speaker 9: about you couldn't get on MSNBC, I got real close,
Speaker 9: you know that. I got on once on MSNBC with
Speaker 9: Phil Donahue and I did mention the theft of the election.
Speaker 1: I did bring it up, and then they kicked him
Speaker 1: to the curb right then they said, you know what.
Speaker 9: And this is also while their protests that he was
Speaker 9: bringing bringing on people to question the war, the plan,
Speaker 9: the drum beat for the war in Iraq, and they said,
Speaker 9: you know your program is in jeopardy, and he had
Speaker 9: to add, well, I'm thinking of bringing on.
Speaker 1: Greg Pallas as a regular reporter for the show. They
Speaker 1: literally almost canceled him on the spot.
Speaker 9: They waited a good day. I'm not kidding you. I
Speaker 9: can't make this up. I got this from his producer,
Speaker 9: and I spoke to Phil and I apologize for, you know,
Speaker 9: getting a show camned.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so censorship so I couldn't get in the Times.
Speaker 9: And in fact, it's interesting The Times two years later
Speaker 9: brought up had an editorial in which they mentioned the
Speaker 9: infamous fellon purge of Florida in two thousand. Well how
Speaker 9: could it be infamous when they didn't even report it?
Speaker 1: And I got it.
Speaker 9: So, but here's the thing I keep getting censored. When
Speaker 9: I did a report at in January twenty twenty one
Speaker 9: during the Senate runoff in Georgia, you know, and I
Speaker 9: did a report for a program called Democracy Now, in
Speaker 9: which I showed that they were that they had illegally
Speaker 9: that their GOP had illegally removed one hundred and ninety
Speaker 9: eight thousand voters from the voter rules, including Martin Luther
Speaker 9: King's ninety two year old cousin. They said that she
Speaker 9: didn't live in Georgia anymore. I went to her house.
Speaker 9: I was in front of the polling station when she
Speaker 9: was thrown out on her keyster and her granddaughter's hysterical
Speaker 9: and in tears.
Speaker 1: This is King's cousin.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be the fiftieth anniversary of her voting the
Speaker 9: first time, which is the fiftieth anniversary of her cousin's death.
Speaker 9: And what happened was, so I ran it on Democracy Now,
Speaker 9: but they had shortened it. They took out the front
Speaker 9: end where I had Trump people saying the election was
Speaker 9: stolen and I'm proving them wrong. But then Consortium News
Speaker 9: ran the story and then they did the whole program
Speaker 9: so that it included the Trump people saying the election
Speaker 9: stolem anyway we got. Not only was that program pulled
Speaker 9: off of YouTube by who owns.
Speaker 1: YouTube, that's Google.
Speaker 9: Not only did Google remove that piece, they told Consortium
Speaker 9: News that one more time violating their community standards, and
Speaker 9: they will shut down Consortium News, which is life or
Speaker 9: death for them. They won't be able to outlet and
Speaker 9: that's their that's their outlet. Consortium News, by the way,
Speaker 9: he was started by the extraordinary columnists, uh, investigative reporter
Speaker 9: Bob Perry and is now yeah, it was run by
Speaker 9: you know, a former Wall Street Journal reporter. But you
Speaker 9: know that wasn't for you know, as far as Google
Speaker 9: is concerned. And you know, here's the problem. So it
Speaker 9: keeps going on, the censorship and the strangulation of the
Speaker 9: truth continues.
Speaker 1: I mean, I.
Speaker 9: Got, uh, you know, and but you know, on the
Speaker 9: other hand, we also have unfortunately on the left, we've
Speaker 9: now and I say we because I consider myself on.
Speaker 1: The left, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 9: And I was just on a program on the crisis
Speaker 9: in journalism, and a non journalist said, the crisis in
Speaker 9: journalism is that Zuckerberg doesn't remove postings quick enough that
Speaker 9: deny climate change.
Speaker 1: And you're really going on and on that that there's
Speaker 1: just not enough censorship on the on the net. And
Speaker 1: I said, so you're in favor of censorship. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: against censorship.
Speaker 9: But I said, no, that that's you can't be for
Speaker 9: censorship but against censorship.
Speaker 1: But because as soon as you say but you're for censorship.
Speaker 1: So you want these people, you want people you don't
Speaker 1: agree with pulled out.
Speaker 9: So how would you feel if your site was pulled down? She's, oh,
Speaker 9: it has been pulled down. So in other words, she
Speaker 9: was more concerned, not concerned, that she and her site,
Speaker 9: which was a climate change site for young people, were
Speaker 9: being pulled off. There what disturbed her. That didn't bother
Speaker 9: at all. What bothered her was that other sites that
Speaker 9: she didn't agreement with we're not.
Speaker 2: I know, because that is the essential duty of collectivism
Speaker 2: and cognitive dissonance. And you know what that means, right, Greg,
Speaker 2: I mean you hold two opposing ideas in your brain
Speaker 2: at the same time, and there's.
Speaker 1: To call it bullshit, hypocrisy, I know, call cognitive dissonance
Speaker 1: because you had that, I know, right, I learnt that
Speaker 1: before you dropped out, right. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: so cynical because Greg Pallas is on the air. He's
Speaker 1: a real journalist and not a jerk.
Speaker 2: And that's how he signs off on his emails to
Speaker 2: me every day. No, because it's it's gotten worse. And
Speaker 2: I remember, I think I interviewed you in just after
Speaker 2: two thousand the first time and we've since become friends.
Speaker 1: But it's like, what is going on? And so both
Speaker 1: sides steal elections.
Speaker 2: So let's just finish off with this, because I don't
Speaker 2: know who were you supporting in the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 2: Because I had a Bernie Sanders interest, I had a
Speaker 2: Tolci Gabbert interest, I had a little Rampall interest, but
Speaker 2: none of them really looked good enough for me.
Speaker 1: But I saw what happened and they.
Speaker 2: So I know you're doing all this work on how
Speaker 2: Republicans steal elections, but how did the Democrats two elections
Speaker 2: in a row steal the election from Bernie Sanders?
Speaker 1: They did that? That's true?
Speaker 9: Actually, if that was I wrote that article for The
Speaker 9: Guardian and which was picked up exactly nowhere in the
Speaker 9: American press.
Speaker 1: I'm here in La La Land, in Hollywood, in California.
Speaker 9: And we have and I explained how Bernie Sanders was
Speaker 9: cheated out of hundreds of thousands of votes.
Speaker 1: In fact, the.
Speaker 9: Number one polling center in California, which is very democratically oriented,
Speaker 9: they gave me all the data.
Speaker 1: See, in California, you have.
Speaker 9: This weird system where if you are a Democrat, if
Speaker 9: you're an independent, and most voters in California are independent,
Speaker 9: don't register for a party, but they believe and they've
Speaker 9: been told that they can vote in the Democratic primary
Speaker 9: because everyone hears Democrat, but they young people just don't
Speaker 9: put down their party affiliation.
Speaker 1: Now, as it turns out, Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 9: Among independent registered but Democratic leading voters was winning two
Speaker 9: to one.
Speaker 1: So that's most of the voters.
Speaker 9: So if all those voters could vote as they thought
Speaker 9: they could vote, then he would have won the California
Speaker 9: primary in the last two in sixteen, and he would
Speaker 9: have wont even bigger in twenty.
Speaker 1: But what happened people didn't know that they had.
Speaker 9: If they went in and cast a Democratic Party ballot
Speaker 9: but they weren't registered as Democrat, it would be thrown out.
Speaker 9: They had to ask for a special printed ballot called
Speaker 9: the No Party Preference alternative ballot, the no party And
Speaker 9: if you didn't have the ask and you weren't allowed
Speaker 9: and no pollwork. If you said that I'm an independent,
Speaker 9: but I want the Democratic Party ballot, which most that's
Speaker 9: for most California voters, they wouldn't. They'd say, sorry, you
Speaker 9: can't vote a Democratic Party ballot. They're not allowed to say,
Speaker 9: all I have to do is ask for the no
Speaker 9: party preference Democratic ban. Now that might sound complicated, but
Speaker 9: it cost the Polling Center agreed with me, cost Bernie
Speaker 9: Sanders hundreds of thousands of votes, hundreds of thousands. And
Speaker 9: they called it the purge by postcard because they send
Speaker 9: you postcards saying do you want.
Speaker 1: A Democratic Party ballot?
Speaker 9: And then a lot of people every California gets a
Speaker 9: ballot mail to them. I know there's a lot of detail,
Speaker 9: but this is how you steal elections.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it sounds like election They locked us
Speaker 1: all down for COVID and then you got to fill
Speaker 1: out the thing. And I mean, I'm not trying to Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say Trump is right.
Speaker 2: But most of no, no, no, no, but hold on, Greg,
Speaker 2: most of the stuff that came out, the conspiracy theories
Speaker 2: on MSNBC and CNN and whatnot, they they fucked it up, Greg,
Speaker 2: because they ended up being wrong and they made Trump right.
Speaker 2: And so how is Trump not looking at as he
Speaker 2: called you? Is Trump get on the phone with Greg
Speaker 2: Pallace because he could need you.
Speaker 1: You got to tell him to get rid of.
Speaker 2: His prime executioners. But man, I mean, it sounds familiar.
Speaker 2: And Trump himself, let me just say this, came out
Speaker 2: and said they stole the election from Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1: I mean, he said that, and he's right, yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was, and he brought out the point.
Speaker 9: He says, well, he missed the bullet because he said,
Speaker 9: if you know, at least six million people voted for
Speaker 9: Bernie Sanders then voted for him.
Speaker 1: He says, imagine if.
Speaker 9: If Hillary had picked Bernie as her running mate, I'd
Speaker 9: be out.
Speaker 1: He would have lost absolutely, So you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't.
Speaker 9: That's that's one of the problems. We see this problem
Speaker 9: all the time. But at the moment, most of my
Speaker 9: investigation is no question. Are Republicans playing games to the
Speaker 9: vote or coming up with really false ideas of theft.
Speaker 9: But I have to say, like the Democrat, I read
Speaker 9: the the Mueller report. The reason Trump wasn't indicted for
Speaker 9: conspiracy with Russia is that. And I know, as you heard,
Speaker 9: I'm no friend of the Russians by any means.
Speaker 1: But I read the Muller report.
Speaker 9: He didn't bring it, and he says, there's just no
Speaker 9: information here that leads to an indictment.
Speaker 1: That's why and so.
Speaker 9: The Democrats are going on with this Russia, Russia, Russia stuff,
Speaker 9: while in fact there were some serious problems for you know,
Speaker 9: black voters, Asian voters, young voters in.
Speaker 1: Places like Georgia and Arizona. They buried, they buried the lead.
Speaker 9: Oh, by the way, the Democratic Attorney General and Secretary
Speaker 9: of State of Michigan had my site shut down when
Speaker 9: you talk about censorship, because I said.
Speaker 1: Here's the people that So I put up two lists three.
Speaker 9: Well, you mean, who's that's Illinois, this is Michigan. So
Speaker 9: I had I uncovered that three states Wisconsin, of four states, Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Georgia,
Speaker 9: and well, let's uh, Michigan. Yeah, all had illegally removed
Speaker 9: voters from the voter rules, saying that they left the state.
Speaker 1: When they didn't, they were still there.
Speaker 9: I got and I actually got the world's top address
Speaker 9: location experts, that is the people that work with Amazon.
Speaker 9: You notice that you that Jack, You don't get someone
Speaker 9: else's tidy Whiteyes, you always. They always know where you are.
Speaker 9: And if you don't pay your and if you.
Speaker 1: Don't pay American Express to your bill, they'll find you
Speaker 1: in North Korea. I guarantee it. So I talked to
Speaker 1: these experts.
Speaker 9: They said, no, these people live here, and we called them,
Speaker 9: We called twelve hundred voters and they said, uh, no,
Speaker 9: what do you mean, I live here? But they lost
Speaker 9: their votes, just like Martin Luther King's cousin. But that
Speaker 9: didn't just happen that they the Republicans didn't in Georgia,
Speaker 9: but the Democrats did it in Michigan. And while the
Speaker 9: Republican Secretary of State, the scumbad name named Brad Raffin's
Speaker 9: perguer Purgurs is really his name, raffis Perguer.
Speaker 1: He had viciously attacked me.
Speaker 9: Brian Kemp, the governor, viciously attacked me in Georgia, but
Speaker 9: they didn't take down my site, whereas the Democratic Secretary
Speaker 9: of State and Attorney General in Michigan they had my
Speaker 9: site taken down until they got a note from a
Speaker 9: kind of ACLU affiliate in Michigan saying.
Speaker 1: Pallace generally helps Democrats, and then they then they had
Speaker 1: my site. They let my site go back up.
Speaker 2: Man, Greg, I mean, I'm so far left, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of right, you know, I mean, that's I mean, now
Speaker 2: it's getting it the.
Speaker 1: Lines are really blurred.
Speaker 2: All I want people to do is have common sense,
Speaker 2: intelligent arguments based on information and not debunked by the
Speaker 2: Government of Disinformation. I can't believe they're naming that it's
Speaker 2: it is the Department of Disinformation. Are they telling us
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do to us?
Speaker 10: And I don't think you're Do you remember great the
Speaker 10: liar According to the London Mirror, the liar with your picture.
Speaker 2: You're not going to turn out okay in this this
Speaker 2: thing with the new Department of Disinformation.
Speaker 1: It's not going to work out good for you man.
Speaker 9: Sorry, no, it has That's why I say they took
Speaker 9: They took down my stuff from CONSORTI News, they shut
Speaker 9: down my website. This is the problem with once we
Speaker 9: start in censorship wars, and then they'll say, oh, we
Speaker 9: didn't mean you, Just like in Michigan, once the Democrats
Speaker 9: were told, hey, Palace, most of his work is supporting
Speaker 9: supports Democrats.
Speaker 1: Then oh, oh we didn't. Oh that was a mistake. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 9: I don't want anyone censored, whether I'm supporting Democrats, Republicans,
Speaker 9: or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I don't support any freaking candidate because they all
Speaker 1: end up going rotten, and I don't care who they are.
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, I mean I was, I was,
Speaker 9: actually I you know, Hugo chav Is considered me a
Speaker 9: good friend. But even he went rotten in the end,
Speaker 9: of course he so that's real rotten.
Speaker 2: But you know, fast acting cancer. I'm sure it was
Speaker 2: perfectly explainable. But yeah, no, no, but you're right. He
Speaker 2: guys coffee day, so there's a reason why he has
Speaker 2: I don't know, I drink eighty cups of coffee a day,
Speaker 2: drink whiskey and smoked cigarettes.
Speaker 1: And I'm still act with Satan. So you've got to
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: You know what he did at the end, he would
Speaker 2: have those meetings. I mean he he did become a dictator,
Speaker 2: but he this is so complicated because they have they
Speaker 2: have multiple coups running against them. I mean, it's the.
Speaker 9: People of Venezuela loved that man all the way to
Speaker 9: the end. His big problem was picking someone who's not
Speaker 9: competent to take his.
Speaker 1: Place in Venezuela. Because see, the.
Speaker 9: One thing that that the left doesn't understand what chav is,
Speaker 9: because I knew him well is and he translated some
Speaker 9: of my books, The best Democracy money can buy into.
Speaker 1: Spanish, by the way.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and he read he'd read from my books every
Speaker 9: week on his TV show I'llow Presidente, which didn't didn't
Speaker 9: That didn't help me either, well, mainly because of these
Speaker 9: crazy Cubans with guns.
Speaker 1: That's why it didn't help me.
Speaker 9: And and as you know from from the book, that's
Speaker 9: one of the things that led.
Speaker 1: To the problem with with miss Badpenny, my chief investigator.
Speaker 9: And now my my official, my spouse. But we have
Speaker 9: the most unusual meeting, you know, people say, well, how
Speaker 9: did you two meet, you know, and after we got married,
Speaker 9: and I said, well, I thought she was sent to
Speaker 9: assassinate me and I was going to have to take
Speaker 9: her out first, and which is true, it's absolutely hundred
Speaker 9: percent true.
Speaker 1: And involved with.
Speaker 9: Picnic, I was getting these death threats from these right wingers.
Speaker 1: And no one was supposed to know where I live.
Speaker 1: But she's an investigator, so of course she hunted me down.
Speaker 1: It's good if you're asking for a job as an investigator,
Speaker 1: that's one way to do it. And she is a
Speaker 1: foreign agent.
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, Jesus, very Swiss, and so she uh so
Speaker 9: it's after midnight and there's this like young woman like
Speaker 9: all cover it up. I thought she was young, I mean,
Speaker 9: as she looked like she was in her twenties.
Speaker 1: Whatever. I walk outs after one in the morning and.
Speaker 9: She goes, no one's supposed to know where I live,
Speaker 9: No one's supposed to know where I work.
Speaker 1: No one is a secret because it.
Speaker 9: Is dangerous, and she goes, mister Pallaced, and I go, damn,
Speaker 9: this is it. She's gonna this is like Squeaky Frome.
Speaker 9: She's gonna this, this freak is from some cult. She's
Speaker 9: gonna take me out. And so then I decided i'd
Speaker 9: have to because you can't outrun a bullets.
Speaker 1: You don't run away.
Speaker 9: You have to go into someone and knock them over.
Speaker 9: That's the training, and you go roll into them. And
Speaker 9: I was about to take her out and smash her
Speaker 9: face when she said but I hesitated for half a
Speaker 9: second because I was actually walking my dog and I
Speaker 9: didn't want him to run, And so that half second
Speaker 9: hesitation allowed her to say, mister Pallace the second time.
Speaker 9: Now someone's gonna bump you off. They're not gonna ask twice.
Speaker 1: So I was so relieved. She just said, well, I
Speaker 1: found your interests that I want to ask you for
Speaker 1: a job, and I go, oh, I was so relieved.
Speaker 9: I would have given her my my house, which eventually
Speaker 9: I did.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, we'll see how it turns out. We'll see
Speaker 1: how it turns out. But you know, I gotta go
Speaker 1: to break. Man's all take a break because this has
Speaker 1: been eminently fascinating.
Speaker 2: We got another half hour to go with a good friend,
Speaker 2: Greg Palace, be right back after this.
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Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, Well, we were talking about Venezuela, and I
Speaker 9: want to make an important point. You know, we keep saying, oh,
Speaker 9: Germany has to keep paying half of They pay nearly
Speaker 9: a billion dollars a day to putin for his oil
Speaker 9: and gas. They are funding the Germans are funding the
Speaker 9: invasion now.
Speaker 1: But they say always nothing we can do about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is venice. We have embargoed people forget yet we've
Speaker 1: laid siege to Venezuela.
Speaker 9: We have an embargo. We don't let anything in we
Speaker 9: don't let anything out. Venezuela could export two million barrels
Speaker 9: of oil a day, and that creepy corporation Chevron, we
Speaker 9: can get into Chevron.
Speaker 2: Well broke no, but hold on, I want my listeners
Speaker 2: to know you're the guy that broke the Exxon Valdez story.
Speaker 1: So all right, go yeah.
Speaker 9: So what happened was I was the chief investigator on
Speaker 9: the Exon Vald's breakup for the natives.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget that. It's it's American natives who own
Speaker 1: that property up in Alaska.
Speaker 9: And I uncovered that it wasn't some drunken skipper who
Speaker 9: smacked a reef like you know, some drunken a wheel.
Speaker 1: That's an idiot concept. He wasn't even at the wheel.
Speaker 1: There was no the radar.
Speaker 9: It was the Excellon Veld's had the first GPS system
Speaker 9: that was created by Raytheon. It costs not twenty dollars
Speaker 9: that you get at Walmart. It was two million dollars
Speaker 9: and difficult to operate. So because it was too cost
Speaker 9: so much money and costs a lot to operate and
Speaker 9: train folks, Exxon just told them to shut off the radar.
Speaker 1: So you have a giant frickin' tanker.
Speaker 9: Going through Alaskan waters with the radar off, and that's
Speaker 9: how they hit the reef. And then we wouldn't have
Speaker 9: even heard about that except that they you know where
Speaker 9: they hit, a place called Bly Island.
Speaker 1: This is important people to understand how.
Speaker 9: Corporate America works, Corporate Planet Corporation works. Okay, So on
Speaker 9: Bly Island, which is where that Exon Valde smacked up,
Speaker 9: the oil drilling consortium led by a company called British
Speaker 9: Petroleum or BP, said that they would have in case
Speaker 9: there was ever an oil spill or tanker spill in
Speaker 9: the the Prince William Sound in Alaska, that on Bly
Speaker 9: Island there would be all this equipment to surround a boat,
Speaker 9: suck out the oil and prevent the spread of a
Speaker 9: of oil. So what happened, And it's almost as if
Speaker 9: understand this is like starting a fire in a trash
Speaker 9: can in front of a fire department. But the thing
Speaker 9: was so that we should have never even heard the
Speaker 9: Exxon Valdiez because they literally smacked into the place where
Speaker 9: they kept all the equipment, except that they didn't have
Speaker 9: the equipment. It wasn't there. It was a total lie
Speaker 9: British petroleum.
Speaker 1: And this is not Exxon but Exon. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: Exon was in on it, on petroleum, beyond petroleum.
Speaker 9: The you know they paint their gas station's green. But
Speaker 9: then they complete they literally fabricated that they had the
Speaker 9: emergency equipment that they figured, well, who's ever gonna look
Speaker 9: in the middle of the Arctic, you know, Well, so
Speaker 9: it wasn't there, and the coastline was destroyed.
Speaker 1: Then we and by the way, so when I saw the.
Speaker 9: Deep water horizon go up and there was no equipment there,
Speaker 9: Haliburton horizon once again, once again.
Speaker 1: That was British petroleum.
Speaker 9: And now in Venezuela, by the way, the reason why
Speaker 9: Venezuela is under barber you know what it is because
Speaker 9: when French total pulled out of Venezuela, the British government
Speaker 9: asked Maduro, the Travis's successor, if they could drill in
Speaker 9: Venezuela take over the French concession.
Speaker 1: The British would take it for BP and Maduro said no,
Speaker 1: which is foolish because he didn't realize what they would
Speaker 1: do to him.
Speaker 9: He said, no, We're going to keep it for the
Speaker 9: for Venezuela's own oil company. That was a big mistake.
Speaker 1: You don't screw it, British Petroleum. I was in a
Speaker 1: Zerobaijean as you know from.
Speaker 9: My book, from Volter's Picnic, and you know when when
Speaker 9: uh the it was baby baba uh, the dictator was
Speaker 9: put in there because they had they had an elected
Speaker 9: president in a Zerbaijan. That's one of these nations pooped
Speaker 9: out by the Soviet Union. When it fell over in
Speaker 9: the nation of a Zerbaijan, they'd given they didn't give
Speaker 9: British Petroleum the concession to drill oil in the Caspian Sea.
Speaker 9: So m I six simply over gave guns to the
Speaker 9: old kg BE chief. I hat a leave and they
Speaker 9: overthrew the elected government. And you know when I did
Speaker 9: a show on that for Channel four Britain where they
Speaker 9: don't have the same level of censorship. When I did
Speaker 9: that show, we put on a member of parliament who's
Speaker 9: on the board of directors of British Petroleum. By the way,
Speaker 9: if you can imagine in Britain you can actually be
Speaker 9: a member of parliament and be on a corporate board.
Speaker 9: But everyone knows he was all that here. Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 9: we don't we don't buy them.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 2: You have to be out of Congress before you you
Speaker 2: get the bullard.
Speaker 9: I just have to tell you that the money's on
Speaker 9: its way, the checks and the mail what you're but
Speaker 9: the but on top of it.
Speaker 1: So they overthrew.
Speaker 9: So this guy from from the member of Parliament on
Speaker 9: the Board directors of BP is also an m I
Speaker 9: six officer, you know, Uh James Bob Yeah, and uh
Speaker 9: when we said so we have evidence that m I
Speaker 9: six overthrew the elected president of a Zerbi Sho and
Speaker 9: you know what his response was, Well, isn't that what
Speaker 9: you pay us to do.
Speaker 1: Isn't that what the British taxpayers expect. We're supposed to
Speaker 1: preserve the oil of these nations for our nation. We
Speaker 1: do gas an economy.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is cartel capitalism at its highest.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: So okay, now, I don't know where you just like
Speaker 2: to you just took this into places don't have to.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Hey, check this out. I just
Speaker 1: watched this movie called Big Man. Have you seen that?
Speaker 1: It is, uh, the.
Speaker 2: Corporate takeover of a massive oil field called the Jubilee
Speaker 2: oil field.
Speaker 1: Off the shore of Ghana in Africa.
Speaker 2: All Right, we're raping Africa a little bit and just
Speaker 2: started happening yesterday. And you know, but and it's a
Speaker 2: juxtaposition between them and Niger who you know, this is
Speaker 2: what happens when oil hits your country and it supersedes government.
Speaker 1: There's no state department involved.
Speaker 2: It's exon mobile, it's corporations, and they don't care like
Speaker 2: who gets hurt. And the money doesn't ever go to
Speaker 2: the people. I think someday, you know, it's like Christmas.
Speaker 2: Someday Christmas will come and we'll get our presence under
Speaker 2: the tree, says the poor little.
Speaker 1: Kid in Harlem. It's not happening, man. I mean, now
Speaker 1: we'll don't forget why why. What pushed.
Speaker 9: What created Putin was the was the ash and grab
Speaker 9: of the oil industry in Russia. Russia, forty three percent
Speaker 9: the budget is from oil sales and royalties.
Speaker 1: And now it's more, it's like eighty percent. This nation.
Speaker 9: We you know, Larry Summers and the gangsters from Harvard,
Speaker 9: with Bill Clinton's help, went in and took advantage of
Speaker 9: that drunk Yeltsin and privatized everything. What privatized means that
Speaker 9: they took public resources, the entire oil industry of Russia,
Speaker 9: which is the world's number one oil producer today number one,
Speaker 9: took all that oil and literally handed it to the
Speaker 9: connected oligarchs, the billionaires. These are raging thieves that destroyed
Speaker 9: the nation. The average life expectancy of a man dropped
Speaker 9: by more than ten years.
Speaker 1: You know what that's like. That was worse.
Speaker 9: That had a bigger effect than World War Two on
Speaker 9: the demographics of Russia.
Speaker 1: That's how severe it was.
Speaker 9: You had one fourth of the population literally starving because
Speaker 9: of this type of oil privatization. So Putin came in
Speaker 9: and seized back a big hunk of the oil industry
Speaker 9: from a gangster named Kodorovsky. He banished another oligarch named
Speaker 9: Berezovsky interested who then ended up dead, face down in
Speaker 9: his bathroom. I don't know how mister Putin, but he's
Speaker 9: the guy who actually put Putin in. And what's interesting,
Speaker 9: what's interesting, Jack, if you go to greg Palace dot
Speaker 9: comulo read the story this guy Berezovsky who put Putin in.
Speaker 9: And remember Putin became president No One, only less than
Speaker 9: one percent of the public knew who he was when
Speaker 9: he took over.
Speaker 1: Less than one percent. He was put in by two oligarchs.
Speaker 9: One Berezovsky, another Kazinski, who was then sent into exile too.
Speaker 9: Why they picked Putin They wanted a Russian pinachet. They
Speaker 9: wanted like the dick, you know, the guy the murder.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, that's good. He's the bag man because
Speaker 1: he worked for the mayor of Saint Petersburg and he
Speaker 1: got him out and then he worked his way up
Speaker 1: in East Germany to be Yeltsin's buddy, and they picked him.
Speaker 2: He's our Frankenstein and now we want him out. Is
Speaker 2: that what's going on? He we want him out and
Speaker 2: we don't care who has to.
Speaker 9: Die now after that guy in, It's very important for
Speaker 9: people to understand when we say we put him in.
Speaker 1: Here's how it went.
Speaker 9: You got I want to fill in a little of
Speaker 9: that story you just told about Yeltsin.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this guy was a nothing.
Speaker 9: He was an assistant to Soapchak, the the mayor of Petersburg.
Speaker 1: He was a nothing guy, but he was a loyal guy.
Speaker 9: And Yeltsin was impressed by that, and so were these
Speaker 9: these other the oligarchs there. What they wanted that Yeltsin
Speaker 9: was a drunk The nation was falling apart. Yelson had
Speaker 9: five heart attacks, it was, but he decided he wanted
Speaker 9: to run again. So when he and Berezovsky and Guzinski
Speaker 9: went to Davos and they saw that Yeltsin was being ignored,
Speaker 9: and they were literally and the oil company chiefs were
Speaker 9: fawning all over the head of the Communist Party what's
Speaker 9: his name is Zuganoff, who they assumed would beat yelts
Speaker 9: In the next election. So the oligarchs, Berezovsky told Yeltson, look,
Speaker 9: we will We'll do whatever it takes. We'll basically steal
Speaker 9: the election for you. We'll get help from the Americans
Speaker 9: because they don't want the zuganyoffer whatever his name is,
Speaker 9: head of the Communist Party still is there to win.
Speaker 9: So we'll get Bill Clinton, we'll get our billions in there,
Speaker 9: and we'll use what they call administrative measures. That's the
Speaker 9: that's their fancy word for the bullshit word vote.
Speaker 1: Suppression, stealing the vote.
Speaker 9: So Yeltsin stole that election, but he had one condition
Speaker 9: put on him that he would resign shortly after that.
Speaker 9: He resigned a year or so after he gets elected,
Speaker 9: in favor of a man that they would Pick whould
Speaker 9: be like Pinichet. He would be militaristic, a teetotaler, and
Speaker 9: a super capitalist. They wanted someone who preserved the free market,
Speaker 9: cowboy capitalism that they'd put in place and protect their billions.
Speaker 1: And they came up. They literally went to meet with Pinachet.
Speaker 1: I kid you not.
Speaker 9: They actually had Pinochet go on Russian television to tell
Speaker 9: them what kind of president they wanted, and it described Putin.
Speaker 9: And then they got Yeltsin to name Putin a deputy
Speaker 9: prime minister. Then Prime Minister Yeltsin resigns, Putin becomes president.
Speaker 9: This is all engineered by the West, by the oil oligarchs,
Speaker 9: by the billionaires. When Putin got in, the first thing
Speaker 9: you realize, if Berezovski and Kotorovsky and Gazinski can put
Speaker 9: me in office, they can take me out. So then
Speaker 9: he went after the guys who put him in, which
Speaker 9: is sh you know.
Speaker 2: Look, and then they had let's go here now, because
Speaker 2: we're only like five minutes away from the end.
Speaker 1: Of the show, Greg Palace with us Greg Palace. They
Speaker 1: had an auction, So after they put Putin in, they
Speaker 1: had an auction to who would get all the resources and.
Speaker 2: Talking about fixed elections and and what's fixed and what isn't.
Speaker 1: They fixed it.
Speaker 2: Only Russians were allowed to participate in that, and they
Speaker 2: doled it out and ever since then it's just kind
Speaker 2: of been disorder.
Speaker 1: Well it's been Yeah. So what Putin did.
Speaker 9: Was he stole back, stole back enough of the oil
Speaker 9: to restore pensions and restore the government and economy and services.
Speaker 1: So that's what made him a hero.
Speaker 9: And then he decided, well, if you really want to
Speaker 9: be here, what you do is kill a bunch of Muslims.
Speaker 9: So he went in and leveled the capital of Chechnya, Garazni.
Speaker 9: He killed fifty thousand civilians, fifteen thousand.
Speaker 2: Russians after the school shooting, and oh yeah, shooting and
Speaker 2: that was a false that was a false flaggreg.
Speaker 1: You know that, and I know so they had right.
Speaker 1: So there was a school.
Speaker 9: This is a long story which we don't have time
Speaker 9: to get into, but Putin kind of got in trouble
Speaker 9: with that, so he needed to do something big. So
Speaker 9: he crushed the Chechens and that made him a big hero,
Speaker 9: and he took some of the oil money back, but
Speaker 9: he kept most of the billionaires got to keep most
Speaker 9: of their billions.
Speaker 1: As you see there are yachts that are finally being seized.
Speaker 9: But you know what, that doesn't mean much to these guys.
Speaker 1: That's kind of a joke, you know.
Speaker 9: The These sanctions are about as tough as taking away
Speaker 9: Putin's a Starbucks card.
Speaker 1: If you're buying his oil.
Speaker 9: And all we have to do is take it from
Speaker 9: Venezuela and stop punishing Venezuela. With Venezuela invaded, no one,
Speaker 9: Venezuela has elections. Venezuela has been an ally of the
Speaker 9: United States.
Speaker 1: Yes, they have a form.
Speaker 9: Of socialism there, how dare they? But so does It's
Speaker 9: probably it's not more of a socialistic country than Norway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, stop calling them Venezuela.
Speaker 2: They're sick. That's the name of their country. They're sick
Speaker 2: of a couple of minutes left. Greg Palace with us
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Speaker 2: You can sign up for his newsletter. It's really interesting
Speaker 2: and as you guys know, he's an old school investigative reporter.
Speaker 2: You know, we've done these shows for a long time.
Speaker 2: Let me hit you for one or two more questions.
Speaker 2: Warren Buffett, right, you know him. Yes, I've heard he
Speaker 2: just came Berkshire, Hathaway. They have a subsidiaries in Russia, China,
Speaker 2: like everywhere, and here in Seattle where I live in
Speaker 2: your town.
Speaker 1: Said, the stock market is a casino. Today was a.
Speaker 2: Very hard day for ethereum, for a bitcoin, for the
Speaker 2: stock market.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the gold prices today.
Speaker 2: But I mean, what is he saying, because he's a
Speaker 2: vulture cap it's just invest your money in him and
Speaker 2: it'll be okay, and you don't play the casino. The
Speaker 2: stock market is a casino, according to Warren Buffett two
Speaker 2: days ago.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's what he's kind of saying. He's saying,
Speaker 1: Let I'm the pro let me pick the stocks for you. Yeah.
Speaker 9: And and since he has so much swing mine as well,
Speaker 9: you know why pretend?
Speaker 1: Easy question, easy answer.
Speaker 2: I think that's as opposed to what Blackstone has been
Speaker 2: doing all over the country. He does he feeling the heat?
Speaker 2: Are the vulture capitalists turning on each other? And how
Speaker 2: does that work out for us?
Speaker 1: Greg?
Speaker 9: Well, I think you know, everyone likes Warren Buffet because
Speaker 9: he's kind of this benign investor, but he's not the
Speaker 9: that's not.
Speaker 1: Where the big money.
Speaker 9: It's it's guys like the big funds that are rising,
Speaker 9: like Paul the vulture singer, where it's smash and grab.
Speaker 1: You know what they do is the you know, like
Speaker 1: singer like took the.
Speaker 9: You know I investigated when he took money from the
Speaker 9: Congo that was supposed to be used for colera medicine.
Speaker 9: He squeezed the nation of Argentina by the nads until
Speaker 9: it went bankrupt.
Speaker 1: Uh. This these are the guys.
Speaker 9: These are the guys who are running the direction of
Speaker 9: this economy.
Speaker 1: Okay, So is it insider trading? Insider trading which we
Speaker 1: know are congress people participate in the Stock Act didn't
Speaker 1: work out, Thank you Obama for trying, but that didn't
Speaker 1: help us out at all. Is it insider trading?
Speaker 2: Or is it such a corptocracy that our elected officials
Speaker 2: in the fixed elections that we vote in and that's
Speaker 2: our that's our strength.
Speaker 1: Uh, they just rule everything. I mean, it's just well,
Speaker 1: here's the good. The good, there's still a back and forth.
Speaker 9: They can't steal all the elections all the time, and
Speaker 9: they have to make some concer sessions to avoid eruption,
Speaker 9: to avoid revolution because it doesn't take much, and so
Speaker 9: they got to concede something.
Speaker 1: But mostly right now, it's bread and circus. You know.
Speaker 1: They just they stick.
Speaker 9: The internet needle into your arm once you're addicted, and
Speaker 9: then they decide what you can see and what you
Speaker 9: can't see. H So you know, yeah, so I'm not
Speaker 9: so much as you know with the way American corruption works,
Speaker 9: is that how many congressmen go broke and become poor
Speaker 9: after they leave office.
Speaker 1: Think about that, right, we just saw that Jan Saki
Speaker 1: she's going to MSNBC and seuse.
Speaker 9: She's been offered more than a ten million dollar contract.
Speaker 9: So someone sitting next to the president is knows that
Speaker 9: she's going to receive when she walks out the door,
Speaker 9: ten million dollars from a media empire.
Speaker 1: Now, her golden words on MSNBC aren't worth ten million dollars.
Speaker 9: They don't have that many listeners come on, I mean,
Speaker 9: but it is worth But what's happened is that they
Speaker 9: just got their way.
Speaker 1: Into the Oval office and that's how it works. Okay,
Speaker 1: But Corrine Jean Pierre is taking her place, so she's
Speaker 1: from MSNBC and Jen Psaki is going to MSNBC. Okay,
Speaker 1: that says it all, doesn't it. Yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 1: victim's parade.
Speaker 2: Send in the clowns, theater of the mass and whitelist
Speaker 2: for everybody.
Speaker 1: I'll remember that. Can I steal those lines? All of them?
Speaker 1: Is that in the song? Oh? Is that in the
Speaker 1: song Vulture's Picnic? Add that?
Speaker 2: No, we just wrote those today and Chuck was contributing
Speaker 2: to that is our producer. We gotta go Greg, anything
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Speaker 1: Okay, just go to Greg Palace dot com. That's g
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