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for a one on one with two times Golden Glove

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champion and Olympic hopeful boxer Algeria Johnson, and I asked

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her about the controversy in women's boxing at the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: The girl, she's actually in my week class. Actually that's

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somebody I would I went to Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So how does that make you feel?

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Speaker 1: Then the Buffalo Bills dropped another one, this time to

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Stefan Diggs and the Texans. Dan and Greg break it down,

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Speaker 4: To eyeagree with you. You've got to give yourself an

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opportunity to win. They didn't give themselves a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on.

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Thank you for telling a friend. That's how we spread

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the word about the Pirate ship. One punch It one step,

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one punch, one round, one step, one punch one round Today,

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two time Golden Glove champion and can I say Olympic

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hopeful as an Olympic hopeful Algeria.

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Speaker 3: Johnson is back in the studio.

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Speaker 1: We talked to her a couple of months ago before

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you were heading out to I believe it was Colorado,

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Right you were.

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Speaker 3: Going out to.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say Aspen? Was it an Aspen? It

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was talk rating that we go it.

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Speaker 2: What was Colorado springs? For the Campford Olympians?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why they were going to Paris?

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Speaker 1: So how did that go for you? When he went

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out there?

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Speaker 2: It was a really good experience I had. I was

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able to get experienced in sparn with the girl who's

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number one of my weight class. Yeah, they actually fought

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in the Olympics at one okay, so I was able

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to share the ring with her and also a few

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other Olympians at different weight classes, and we did training

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with them. We did a morning training, afternoon training. So

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we learned, like certain things that they're looking for in Olympics, like.

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Speaker 1: What are they looking for, like what would be different

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or things that they that you left there are going

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I need to work on this more so.

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Speaker 2: Of the things of how they score internationally. Okay, here

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in the US, certain things they look for an international

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tournaments like side steps and they look for check hooks.

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They look for a lot of different things that they're not.

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Speaker 1: Really so side steps meaning like a slip, So it's

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like a move like.

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Speaker 3: To avoid a punch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a move that they look for, like

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that's a real big thing and they.

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Speaker 3: Give you and they give you points for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They it's like the international scoring. They score different

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from it from like fighting.

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Speaker 1: Nattie just the USA explain everybody at a USA tournament,

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because I always thought it was just really from head

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to kind of waste. You you touch the body anywhere

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in there and that was a point.

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Speaker 2: Well, a scoring system, THEREY score from your face to

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your bottom stomach. That's the scoring system first.

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Speaker 1: So you don't get any points for avoiding a punch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they score for defense. They look for certain things defense.

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They want to see if you could hit and not

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get hit. They want to see you're throwing a lot

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of punches, you're real active, So they look for different things.

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It's just a different type of scoring. I just know

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a couple of things they look for internationally. I never

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fought internationally yet, so, but being in camp, they had

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showed us a few of the moves that you know

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they look for in the international tournament.

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Speaker 1: Harder, I would say to think about in there, yeah.

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Speaker 2: More yeah, a little more technical versus like the pros,

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like the scoring, because everything fast and amateur so I think,

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like everything is more like in the pros, everything slows

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down a little bit more so. Immateur is three minutes,

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three rounds, so it's like a fast paced. But you

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know they look for certain things.

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Speaker 1: They look for certain things. So are you uh so

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it's only three rounds three minute three rounds?

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Speaker 3: Is that what you said? Yeah? So what is your

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plan then to go moving forward?

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Speaker 2: Like in the ring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When I'm in the ring, I just feel my opponent

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out the first ten seconds. So I can't before a fight,

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I can't like say what I'm gonna do, right, I

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gotta fiel my opponent out if I know who I'm fighting,

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or I've been got the experience and okay, you know,

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I'll probably try to break them down the way I

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know to break them down. But I usually go in

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the fight and fill them out the first ten seconds.

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I don't go in there like thinking all I gotta

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do this and this and that. I just let it

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come naturally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But to get to you want to be an

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Olympic boxer, right, So what is the plan to get

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back to get to that level.

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Speaker 2: Well, they have a big tournament in December which I'm

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going to fight in, and that basically is the starting

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for the Olympics for Los Angeles in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Six, twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah eight. Yeah, so that's like the like how they

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select this tournament. So if whoever wins in this tournament,

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that's like the settings step for the Olympics in twenty

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twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you'll be like the number one And you.

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Speaker 1: Got to be so disciplined yourself right now, like in

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what you're eating and when you're going to bed and

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when you're getting up. And I know you have a

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full time job, yes, yeah, so how are you balancing

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all that.

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Speaker 2: I'll work in the morning and then as soon as

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i leave from work, I'll go straight to the gym.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So a closer to camp, I'm gonna be like training

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in another in another state.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be training in another state, yea, or.

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Speaker 2: Getting work from there in Ohio, Ohio. Okay, I'm be

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going there to get work and stuff, just to be

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in another environment where I can you know, learn more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So when are you gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm leaving two weeks.

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Speaker 3: In two weeks, and how long will you be there?

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Speaker 2: I'm just going for the weekend. For the weekend going

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up there a lot to get sparring and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Sparring and stuff. Yeah, the worst injury that you've had lately?

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Speaker 3: Is there anything?

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Speaker 2: No, no injury, I mean no.

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Speaker 1: No crack rib no, nothing like that. Nobody's touching you.

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Come on, come on, that's some stuff talk to me about.

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The Olympics had some controversy this year in in the

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women's boxing with uh, somebody from another country and I

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think it was Algeria. Algeria, That's what I thought, which

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I thought was kind of funny. But I was like, right,

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because that's your name.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So here comes a boxer who they're saying is not

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trans but is born with.

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Speaker 2: The males.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's got like the X chromosome. But even

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though and it doesn't present until puberty more or less

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and maybe there's not to be too graphic, but more

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clinical no penis, but there's testosterone and that sort of thing,

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and and who knows really where the I guess the

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truth is in that. And there is some privacy. Did

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do you feel like that was? How did you feel

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about that? I'll leave it there.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Uh, Actually, the the girl, she's actually in my

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weight class. Actually that's somebody I would.

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Speaker 3: Have, Okay, So how does that make you feel? Then?

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Speaker 2: Knowing that she has the X chromosome. I honestly feel

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like that. It's kind of like I'm hearing, Okay, she

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was really born a female, but she has the Honestly,

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I feel like she shouldn't compete with Okay, okay, because

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at the end of the day, you really got the

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strength of a man. So it's like, honestly, you should

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be competing with a man with I honestly think that

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she should compete with men, yes, or she should they

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should have a lead for those females like you.

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Speaker 1: Know, because well I will tell you that I have.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sort of more of a moderate person right in my

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political views and things, and this has become political to

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a certain extent. And I always think that it feels

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unfair to have people like yourself who have dedicated their life,

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trained very hard, reaching goals, which is a wonderful I think.

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And we'll get into this a little bit I'll ask

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more questions and to maybe repeat some of it of

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what we talked about the last time you were in

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but how boxing has changed your overall life and given

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you a focus and a discipline and all this stuff.

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And then to be rising up, rising up, feeling great

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about yourself, feeling great about yourself, going to the Olympics,

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and then you run into this and it feels unfair.

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And I know Dave Chappelle, the comedian, did a joke

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is if lebron became Lebrona and went to the WNBA

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and scored one hundred points, yeah a night. It doesn't

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feel fair. And I know that there are probably many

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men that you would give quite a time in a

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ring and beat. I believe that. I absolutely believe that.

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But there's going to be somebody who's trained at that

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level that it just it's a little bit stronger.

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Speaker 3: You know, a woman.

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Speaker 1: Backed out of the of the Olympics when they took

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one hit from that person because they hit so much

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harder than what she was used to. So it just

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seems unfair to me. And yet at the same time, Algeria,

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you got in there and kicked that guy's ass.

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Speaker 2: That's another thing.

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Speaker 3: I know, because I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta think the competitor in us gotta be like, come on, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So another side of me is like, yeah, it's unfair.

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backed out of nothing. I would have gave it all

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I honestly.

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Speaker 1: I believe that I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I believe that I would have gave it all I

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got and that would have made me turn up even

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more that yeah, that would have. Honestly, the girl backing out,

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I was like, I'm not saying that that's an excuse,

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but she.

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Speaker 3: Took one one good hit and I think, like.

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Speaker 2: At the Olympics, doughs like you never got hit that

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hard before.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of like, you know, oh, I don't know.

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I don't know if she's saying no, but look, who knows.

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Maybe there was some theater involved in all this. I'm

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not exactly sure, but I do think it's it's unfair

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because you just, you know, especially at that level with

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the same training. Even I think that men just have

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are bigger, right, and that's why we we have difference,

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and there's the brawn and right, and so you're gonna

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have that. I love the idea, though, that you say,

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I wouldn't have backed down. I don't think it's right,

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but I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Have backed down.

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Speaker 2: I would have given it all.

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Speaker 3: What kind of fire is in that belly for you?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 3: What is the what? What?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: What is it? You want? What's that it's burning in there?

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Speaker 1: Because I can see it, Like you light up when

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you just said you said I wouldn't have backed down.

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Speaker 3: I saw you light up. I go, what is that?

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Speaker 2: I just think it's just something inside of me. Like

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I wouldn't say it's pride, but it's just something inside

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of me, Like I'm just not I don't know, I

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just got something to side of me. Like how do

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I say, like you got.

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Speaker 3: A little rage in there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have raige to control it, but I got

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something inside of me that's just like I ain't going

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out like that that type of attitude. So it's like

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now I just have the mindset that this is gonna

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stop me. So when I'm in a ring or you know,

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I want it.

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Speaker 1: So how much of that has translated to life for you?

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The discipline that you have, that focus that I'm not

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gonna like meeting challenges like life. I have this belief

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life is never going to stop coming at you, right,

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So it's all in how you handle it and how

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you react to it, and when you feel good about yourself,

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a lot of times you'll react better than when you're

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not feeling good about yourself. So with you, I think

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you got to be feeling pretty good. Two time Golden

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Glove champion, working hard to get to the to become

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an Olympic boxer, probably have a pretty good chance of

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that happening. I would think, yes, and yeah, I can

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see it, and I can see in there this like

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you know you got it? So how is that translated

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into life for you? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I just supply everything y'all learned the boxing because I

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feel like I get put in situations where God testing

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me to see, okay, have you changed or are you

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ready for the next level? So honestly, it doesn't get

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easier to get harder. So I actually just get comfortable

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with being uncomfortable because I know when I'm uncomfortable something

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is coming. And I just try not to stay comfortable

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because I know it's always somebody else out there that

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want to be great or that want to be number

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one too, So I just keep it. I just stay

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on my toes and just stay humble and never be

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satisfied with whether I'm winning or losing.

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Speaker 3: Right, But talk to me, like, here's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So, at your job, do you think you perform better

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at your job because you box?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying like you're more focused? Yeah, yeah,

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you're more focused. Do you understand what needs to be done?

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This is work? This is you know, even maybe in

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your relationships your younger sisters in the studio right now,

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like all these relationships. Are you better in all those

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areas because you have this discipline and focus?

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Speaker 3: Do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like I balance it out like at work,

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the mental aspect, I don't let like I try not

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to let stuff bother me or get to me, or

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if something do piss me off or annoy me, I

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just use that as fuel. When I'll go to the

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boxing gym, I'll let it out there. So I kind

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of just take everything that I face or go through,

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and I just use it to go harder in the gym.

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So honestly, when stuff come at me, that just makes

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me get even more better.

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Speaker 3: When it makes you get better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, make me more hungrier.

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Speaker 3: What what is a daily schedule for you.

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Speaker 2: So I really Monday through Friday, I'll work.

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Speaker 1: And then what time do you have to get to work?

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Speaker 2: At nine o'clock? So when I'm in training camp, that's

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when I'm gonna do my morning runs. And as soon

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as I leave work, I'll go straight.

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Speaker 1: To Okay, So what time do you finish work?

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Speaker 2: Around five o'clock. Then I'll go to the gym about

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six thirty and then I stayed there till like nine

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o'clock and then what and then I'll go home get

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ready for the next day.

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Speaker 1: Your home, and then what time do you hit the pillow.

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Speaker 2: Like at twelve eleven o'clock?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And then you sleep to win eight or not eight

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seven eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Like seven seven fifty am. I send my alarm.

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Speaker 1: Too, okay, and then you get up and you go

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to work yeaheah, and then you do that again the

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next day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you're getting so you're getting seven and almost eight

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hours of sleep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but now closer to like because my fight

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is in December. Yeah, closer to my fight in December,

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that's gonna change because now I got to sacrifice some

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of my sleep to get more cardio and you know more.

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Speaker 1: Training and how far are you running?

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Speaker 3: When you run?

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Speaker 2: I run three miles and I do like a high pace.

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I bring you down like as if I'm in a fight.

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So I'll turn it all the way up, get me

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real tired, and then I'll bring it down and I'll

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turn it up. So when I'm running on a treadmill,

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that's what I do. But when I run outside, I

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run at a good pace.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's the uh, who's your coach?

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Speaker 2: Coach?

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Speaker 3: And you do the workouts?

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Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of this is self motivated you, right,

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so you're doing a lot of this on your own.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, but they got to be proud as heck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, of all the things that are going who's the

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one person that you want to get in the ring?

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Speaker 3: Is there a fighter at your love that Yeah, I

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can say that.

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Speaker 2: I want to fight. Yeah, Alicia Bombgarner. Okay, that's somebody

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who I want to fight in the future. Katie Taylor.

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I will love a sugaring with her. I sparred her

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before and she's a real good fighter. Yeah, so that's

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somebody who I want to fight. And also Amanda Surroundo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well the whole boxing thing came about because you were

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getting into trouble. You're getting into the fights and things

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when I was young.

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Speaker 2: When I was younger, anger issues.

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Speaker 3: Anger issues.

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Speaker 1: The boxing helps with the anger issues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly it makes me. You'll think when somebody got

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anger issues and that they will join something, it will

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make them even more. It actually makes me not want

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to fight people and stuff now that I know that

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I'll compete at a high level. And I got kids

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looking at looking up to me, and people that look

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at me as a role model. So I know, I

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got to carry myself a certain way. You know. I

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wouldn't want a child looking up to me and think, oh,

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you know, I'm going down the wrong path they're doing. No,

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I got you crazy things. I'll try to set an

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example for the kids. And you know, everybody not perfect.

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But I just make sure I carry myself like, you know,

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as a young lady, regardless outside of inside and outside

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of the ring, because I'm still a woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I hear you. I kind of that. It's

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a little old school. I like that, right, carry yourself

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like a lady. Yeah, that's interesting. Who says that to you?

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Anybody give you that your mom say that. Anybody say that.

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Speaker 2: No, I just think God just in your hat is Yeah,

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I think everything was kind of a little self taught,

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or I just I do. I watch it like a

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lot of YouTube videos, like people who are where I

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want to be, and I learn and take notes of

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things that you know, they they did to become successful.

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So I like learn from different people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so these are almost mentors, but you're learning from

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others how they got there? Yeah, what was their method?

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What was their path? When you look around, may I ask.

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Speaker 2: How old you are?

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Speaker 3: Just turned you just turned twenty three?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I have a son who's I have boys

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about your age. Guy just turned twenty four, and a

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guy who's twenty two, gonna be twenty three. And it's

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interesting to me. But there's got to be a lot

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of people that you were with that you've seen go

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down a different path right and get themselves into Does

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anybody ever reach out to you going how did you

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do it? Can you help me and my get out

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of whatever I'm in?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? A lot of like younger kids, Like when I

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went to school and spoke to some kids, A lot

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of like the younger girls. One younger girl reached out

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to me because I gave him my Instagram and she

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reached out to me. It was like she was like

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kind of scared and shy to like come up to

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talk to me, but she was saying that she h

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she looked up to me, and she like wanted to

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start boxing and like basically want to help her anger

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because she says she got angry issues too. Yeah, and

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she want to learn how to be a better person.

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Speaker 1: So you you've gone into schools and talk to kids, Yes,

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what do you say when you're in there?

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Speaker 2: Basically? I I speak my truth. And you know how

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some people go to speak to kids and they just

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give them the regular like uh, the regular talk about

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Like some people will speak to people and they'd be like, oh,

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you got to do this and this and that, but

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they never been through nothing or didn't come from nothing,

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so they can't really relate to them. So I think

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because I could relate to them.

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Speaker 3: Did you go to the city schools I went to?

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Speaker 2: I forgot that it's a school that got behavioral issues.

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I forgot the name of the school I went to.

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Last year, I went to high school and it was.

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Speaker 1: A behavior it was for behavioral issues.

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Speaker 2: Yep. The students I spoke to. They they wasn't like

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a I think no.

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Speaker 3: But when you went to school, did you go to

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the city schools?

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Speaker 2: I went to thirty five school when I.

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Speaker 3: Was what was it like in there?

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Speaker 2: I was, I was bad. I was wondering. Well, I

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wasn't bad. I was just I would say I had

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behavioral issues. I feel like a lot of times the teachers,

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some of the teachers didn't like me, and I feel

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like I was like in situations, I like, kids will

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pick on me, and I would pick on the right back.

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So I was always that type of person who stood

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up for myself. So I would get in trouble for

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stuff like that or for fighting. But a lot of

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times I feel like some of the teachers didn't like

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me like I always had. I used to get suspended.

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It was times I got suspended from school and my

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mom wouldn't even know, and I would come home and

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I was And the one time I got on the

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bus and I was suspended. This was an elementary and

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I still got on the bus and they called my

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mom the car and told her that I was suspended

478
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,920
and I can't.

479
00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:35,319
Speaker 1: So you got on the bus to just go to

480
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,279
school because you didn't want to tell your mommy were suspected.

481
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to tell her I was suspended.

482
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,119
And this is when I went to Urban Choice Charter School.

483
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,039
This was in elementary, This was here in Rochester, and

484
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,000
I used to get in trouble all the time. And

485
00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:49,680
then I went to thirty five school.

486
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: How do you wish they handled that?

487
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: I think more so probably had like classes like for

488
00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:01,640
anger and inmate for kids and stuff and talk to me.

489
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,759
I think a lot of times teachers didn't really hear

490
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,160
like some of them would just I think they will

491
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,519
purposely like do stuff towards me or be mean. It

492
00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:13,680
was kind of weird, like as a young girl so

493
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,519
or because I was like, you know, probably looked at

494
00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:19,920
as the bad little child in a class. I was

495
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,440
always goofy and stuff. So I think sometimes pulling the

496
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:27,680
kid aside and seeing what's going on and stuff stuff

497
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,079
like that.

498
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really really insightful because I think you're right.

499
00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:33,720
I think sometimes it's hard when you've got like thirty

500
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,440
five kids in a class. I'm sure it can be

501
00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:38,839
kind of tough, but you know, I almost feel like

502
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,319
suspending somebody from out of school. You want them to

503
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,480
go to school, you want them to like school, You

504
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:50,039
want to build them up at school. I know that

505
00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:52,599
it's not always easy, but that should be the purpose.

506
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,440
And so I often wonder, are you better off putting

507
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,799
them in in school suspension and trying to structure that

508
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,880
so there's learning and things going on, instead of letting

509
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,200
them stay home, which is probably what the kid wants.

510
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:08,720
Anybody except you, because you even want to be home

511
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,599
with your mom. You sound like you got a good.

512
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: Mom who would Yeah, mo, mom, she raised us. I'm

513
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,079
actually grateful the way my mom raised us, you know.

514
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:22,400
Sometimes compared to just new generation, I just feel like, what.

515
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:24,279
Speaker 1: Do you see in the new generation? That's an interesting

516
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,960
thing because you're young yourself, you're a young lady.

517
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I think this a new generation is terrible.

518
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480
They don't have like no respect and.

519
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 3: No respect.

520
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: Explain what that means to me because I have something

521
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,720
going on in my life that his I would would

522
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,160
have never saw things going this way, And I will

523
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,119
sort of allude to it and ask what you would

524
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,400
what you would want said to you in that thing

525
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:50,240
a situation?

526
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,279
Speaker 2: I think no respect as in, like when I was

527
00:25:54,359 --> 00:26:01,640
growing up and raised like even it's like these kids today.

528
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,319
I think a lot of times some kids feel like

529
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,960
they're not heard or whatever, or if somebody disrespect them,

530
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,000
direspect them back. So I could see why kids.

531
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:13,079
Speaker 1: Think that way, but peer to peer. But when I

532
00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:15,160
say no respect, there almost seems to be are you

533
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,200
saying no respect to elders?

534
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:17,559
Speaker 6: Yeah?

535
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: I think it's to adults, like they feel like nobody

536
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:26,839
could tell them nothing, or like even it's just or

537
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,640
sometimes they don't have the right people or parents that's

538
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,039
telling them or correcting them or disciplining them. I think

539
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:38,559
they're not being disciplined. And growing up, I was disciplined,

540
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,359
like I knew not to disrespect my mom. I knew

541
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,319
not to curse in front of my mom. It's like

542
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,200
now it's like kids are too like comfortable doing things

543
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,599
Like I'm twenty three and I still don't curse when

544
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,279
I'm around my mom or you know, or even talking

545
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,720
to my mom. It's just I don't even feel comfortable

546
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,279
cursing around older lady or anybody. Yeah, you know, I

547
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:01,200
just feel like it's.

548
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,039
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with that, I do agree with that.

549
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,480
And I used to say things like, well, it's just words.

550
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: Right. The words aren't anything.

551
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: But I do think that people sort of look at

552
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,960
you differently, and that if you carry yourself different, you'll

553
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,319
be treated different. I believe that so much so that

554
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,160
I always when I had three boys, it was like

555
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,759
living in a frat house. Somebody was always thrown up,

556
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,640
walking around shorts, someone was acting, you know, no shirt on.

557
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:31,480
It was always a but they I was in the

558
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:36,160
emergency room a lot broken bones, people jumping off roofs.

559
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: This is you know, they're boys.

560
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: And I used to always keep a button down shirt

561
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,039
on standby because I felt like when you dressed better,

562
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,000
they treated you better. I think I really believe that

563
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,960
people always make fun of me. Now that my fourteen

564
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:57,119
year old son he got sick. We wound up urgent

565
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,960
care and then emergency, and I put on a button

566
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:02,400
down shirt to go to emergency only because I do

567
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:06,200
think they treat you differently. I'm sorry, and I know

568
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,160
that we're not supposed to judge, but we're animals at

569
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,039
our core, and we judge. And I just think that.

570
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,960
So it's interesting to hear you say I don't want

571
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,839
to do that, and when you say new generation, you know,

572
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,079
I'm old enough to be your dad. So to me,

573
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,680
you're the next generation, and you're different I think among those,

574
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:29,240
although maybe not. And because your sister is thirteen, right, yeah,

575
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:33,039
and you seem like you're very respectful, are you? Yeah,

576
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,960
they're very quiet?

577
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: There you go.

578
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: I didn't you know why she was quiet because I

579
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:43,079
didn't have a microphone up. But I mean, my older guys, look,

580
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,079
if you had a disagreement with your mom or an

581
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,799
adult and things kind of got heated, what would you

582
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,960
want them to say to you to try to make

583
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,559
you feel like everything's going to be okay and we

584
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:04,039
can move forward. That's a tough one. And I'm being

585
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:06,640
a little vague, but I sort of have a situation

586
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,400
going on. I have a fourteen year old son and

587
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,599
things got heated. And when you talk about anger issues,

588
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:16,799
I probably not. Probably I do. And I haven't been

589
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,920
in a gym boxing, not even like when you came

590
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,640
in here last time.

591
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,759
Speaker 3: I held the mits and stuff.

592
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,799
Speaker 1: I haven't even been doing that lately because that place

593
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,519
I was at closed and so there's other things, and

594
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,160
I go, boy, I need to get back in the gym,

595
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,440
because I was like, ah, and I do have like

596
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:38,839
I think that I think any good fighter inside them.

597
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,599
There's a rage. There's a rage, and I know that

598
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:45,240
I have a quiet rage in me that I've had

599
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:47,519
since I was a young young guy. I had a

600
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:50,000
lot of things happened to me that along the way

601
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,359
that just sort of changed me. And I've got this,

602
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,319
you know, underdog angry mentality that sometimes and then when

603
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,599
you push certain buttons, and there are peopeople who can

604
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,160
right and and I say things. I mean, I say

605
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,960
things like I might be better sparring with my tongue

606
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,000
than my fist because I can say thingss quick and mean, and.

607
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm the same way. I'm the same exactly.

608
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I look to say the thing that will

609
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,720
hurt you the most.

610
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I try to. I don't. That's why

611
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,240
I learned not to argue with people because cut deep.

612
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cut deep, okay, truth be the.

613
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,599
Speaker 2: Truth though it's not me, just you know it be

614
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,920
the truth, right, I say it, just how it is.

615
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: And then when I get that, when you get cut deep, okay,

616
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,680
if someone cuts deep at you, then what happens.

617
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,559
Speaker 2: I get quiet? And I got it. Like I'm the

618
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,960
type I hold I hold stuff in and let it

619
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,359
build up. And I think that's not a good way

620
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,440
to handle it, because sometimes you might you might ignore

621
00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:01,200
stuff or I don't know, I'm kind of like I

622
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,759
wouldn't say numbed, were it's just like now I'm like unbothered.

623
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:08,960
Or if it bothered me, I just use that fuel

624
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,200
in the gym. So I just I get quiet if

625
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,599
something hurt me, I get real, real quiet because I

626
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,400
need to process my emotions and how I'm react and

627
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,079
all that. And I don't want to see and.

628
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't always get quiet because I'll come back with

629
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:29,680
that quick verbally, not physically, but verbally. And so what

630
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,319
would you want to hear from an adult in your

631
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:35,400
life who you had something where they said things, you

632
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,000
said things.

633
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: What would you like them to say to you? Because

634
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,079
you know, I.

635
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,279
Speaker 1: Am, as it's been said, the grown ass man right,

636
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:46,920
and I should be able to not do that sort

637
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,400
of thing, but I did, So what would you want

638
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:49,680
to hear?

639
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,359
Speaker 2: I think account ability And a lot of times people

640
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,119
have a lot of pride and apologizing. So I think

641
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,519
just even because I'm a forgiven person, like sometimes I

642
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:06,279
think I could be too forgiving. I'm too forgiving to

643
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,359
where somebody else would be like, oh no, I will

644
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,359
never forgive. But honestly, because I'm a Christian, I believe

645
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,839
in forgiving people. So regardless of how people treating me

646
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,200
or didn me bad, I'm learning that the true definition

647
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:23,799
of humility and being humble is when somebody give you bad,

648
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,839
you still be good to them. And that's how you

649
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,160
stay blessed and you know, get everything you want in

650
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,720
life by giving somebody the opposite of what they give you.

651
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:38,720
So somebody, for instance, an example, somebody treated you real

652
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:42,119
bad or disrespect to you, you still being good to them.

653
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,119
It's real. I ain't saying it's easy to do. It's

654
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:50,359
very very hard. But I'm just working on, like you know,

655
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:55,480
just staying humble even in times when people test me,

656
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:59,240
because I honestly I feel like no matter what position in,

657
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,359
people always going to test you, or somebody always trying

658
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:04,000
to I want to try to bring you down. So

659
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:09,119
I think apology, but sometimes you'll never get an apology from people.

660
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,680
So learning to forgive people. That's not even sorry.

661
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,119
Speaker 1: If an adult said to you, look I sunk to

662
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,640
your level and I shouldn't have done that, and I'm

663
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,480
sorry and we'll work through this, and I am need

664
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,400
to be better and uh, you know, and I love

665
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,599
you and that's it. Will that go far away?

666
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:32,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would forgive them. I'll forgive them, and I

667
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:34,720
think keep doing the same thing, I'll just cut off.

668
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:36,359
Yes at this point.

669
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:40,839
Speaker 1: You just yes, Yes, your younger sister is here. What

670
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,799
is your name, Camara? What did you want to say

671
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:45,640
about Algeria?

672
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 8: I would say that Algier is a really great big

673
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:50,799
sister because she's telling me a lot of things I

674
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:54,400
did not know. Yeah, and I do have anger issues

675
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,640
as well, and I'm trying to go to the gym

676
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,039
so i can let that anger.

677
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,519
Speaker 2: I would let that anger often.

678
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, shut it, shut it out. Yeah. Does that

679
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:07,160
a lot of pressure for you? Knowing that you have

680
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,960
people and somebody who loves you, like your sister looking

681
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:12,679
up to you. And is it pressure or is it not?

682
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,840
Is it just like, hey, I mean I'm doing this,

683
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,159
it's not pressure.

684
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: And I'm just trying to balance, like focusing on my

685
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,400
training and my fights and then trying to put poor

686
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,519
time into her. Yeah, so like spending time with her.

687
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,480
That's why I brought her here with me, and then

688
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,000
I've been bringing her sometimes. I'll bring it to the

689
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,280
gym when I'm sparring and stuff. Yeah, it's just sometimes

690
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,719
I have my full focus on training, so I block

691
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,559
everybody out.

692
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,079
Speaker 1: Do you get tired just watching her? Like those workouts

693
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,320
gotta make you tired just watching, don't they?

694
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

695
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

696
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot, right did you go? Where the heck? Who?

697
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:49,119
Speaker 7: What?

698
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:50,519
Speaker 6: Yeah?

699
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 3: I know?

700
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: And I get tired just cleaning my room? Right? So

701
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,320
the next is your next big fight December.

702
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to get on the car in November

703
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,519
and Maryland. I'm trying to find a fight. Like it's

704
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,079
been some fights going on that I have been on

705
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,400
the list to get matched up, but it's no opponent

706
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,639
for me. So okay, that's why I haven't for recently.

707
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,199
It's hard for me to get fights.

708
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 3: So why is hard for you because you're too good?

709
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes? Is that some people you know back out or

710
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,480
it's no females in the area, so I have to

711
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:28,119
travel do a lot of traveling.

712
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,119
Speaker 3: So how are you raising money for that stuff?

713
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: So? Actually, I was thinking about doing a goalfundme for

714
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,280
this Nationals because a lot of times I come I

715
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,800
come out of pocket for all the tournaments except for

716
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,559
Golden Gloves. The LBC will cover that but for nationals

717
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:48,800
and traveling, I have to come out of pocket. So

718
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,639
I'm trying to raise do go fund here and raise

719
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,280
to help the traveling expenses for when I go to December.

720
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: Because you should put on like they should have you

721
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,119
at the gym to put on like a clinic, and

722
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:04,800
people can come watch you train, watch you spa, watch

723
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,400
you work Mitch, watch you do stuff. I think that'd

724
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,199
be great and it'd be a good way to raise

725
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:11,760
some funds. If you figure out if you have a

726
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,079
GoFundMe or something, please let me know and we'll try

727
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,320
to push it out too on our social media's and things,

728
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,400
just to help, because I think this is an amazing

729
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,920
thing for you, and I think it's an amazing thing

730
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,880
what you're doing and for everybody watching you.

731
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: I really do.

732
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: I find you as impressive as hell. I think that's

733
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,920
I think that did that focus, that determination, that self awareness,

734
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,719
you know, saying I have anger issues, but I'm working

735
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,199
through finding ways to deal with it.

736
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,519
Speaker 3: You know, all that stuff.

737
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: When when boxing ends at some point, right and you

738
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,400
probably feel invincible, you're twenty three years old, you should,

739
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:49,480
but at some point, let's say you hit into your

740
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,840
forties and you go, what do you what do you

741
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,800
see yourself.

742
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,559
Speaker 2: Doing at forty? Honestly, I feel like I see myself

743
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:02,199
accomplishing being a world champion, giving back to my community.

744
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,159
I want my own boxing gym, you.

745
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:05,519
Speaker 3: Do, That's That's what I'm asking.

746
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I want like my own boxing gym. Also

747
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,559
where I can invest in like kids who trying to

748
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:17,519
get to like national tournaments and like pour into them. Yes,

749
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,039
I don't want to be a coach, but I just

750
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,280
want my own gym and have coaches in there.

751
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,679
Speaker 1: So it's sort of your philosophy, right, your philosophy on boxing,

752
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,119
your philosophy on the nash, But you're the the You

753
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:32,719
go around and you maybe do a little instruction, but

754
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,119
you got coaches and you're running the business.

755
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: And I'm running the business, and also like invest in

756
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,440
them so they don't have to pay for nationals or

757
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:43,039
you know, because a lot of the like the kids

758
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,440
who trying to be like great and stuff, a lot

759
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,239
of people, I feel like they give up on their

760
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,119
dreams because they don't come from a family that got

761
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:55,000
money that means right, So it's like harder for them.

762
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:59,239
So that's why I want to be the person like

763
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,800
because I know from experience to help somebody else when

764
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,320
you know, when it's their time. So I want to

765
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,320
pour in and be a mentorship to like younger girls

766
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,239
coming up that's trying to find their way through boxing

767
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:14,320
and you know need that person to look up to.

768
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,760
So I want to be like a mentor. And also

769
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,960
I want to do modeling.

770
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: And were you already doing that?

771
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,079
Speaker 3: Were doing some modeling the last time we talked.

772
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: No, I haven't did like actual modeling. I just post

773
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:30,840
a lot on my social media. I take a lot

774
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,559
of pictures and stuff, like outside of the boxing gym

775
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:36,159
when I go out or somewhere. I like dressing up

776
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:39,320
and getting real girly. So I want to do like modeling.

777
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,000
And I love dancing too, so I want to incorporate

778
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:44,760
dancing with boxing is a thing, yeah, so I want

779
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,920
to incorporate that in with boxing. I actually want to

780
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,039
go like to New York City and like take some

781
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,880
of the classes, maybe having like classes like Africans would do,

782
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,079
and they'll have like a whole bunch of people around.

783
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:58,480
They will be dancing and stuff, and they'll post it

784
00:38:58,519 --> 00:38:59,199
on social media.

785
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: I see, I see what you're saying. I think that's great.

786
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:05,320
I love that whole plan for you. I think it's

787
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,800
it's good. Do you do anything, And I'll ask this,

788
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,480
like have you ever heard of a vision board?

789
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,039
Speaker 2: Yes, I've been was supposed to make one. But what

790
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:16,760
I do I gotta. I just bought me a new journal, okay,

791
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,320
and I just write like my monthly goals that I

792
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,280
want to get done, like for this month, next month,

793
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:28,159
deceimper and like I wrote like a I wrote a

794
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,440
list on my phone as well too, of things I

795
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,760
want to accomplish in life period or my dreams and goals.

796
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

797
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,159
Speaker 2: So I do a lot of writing.

798
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: Yes, writing's great, and that's great, especially the long hand, right,

799
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:42,960
it's something about going from your mind to the pen

800
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:43,760
so to speak.

801
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,039
Speaker 3: Do you read it every day?

802
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,639
Speaker 2: Well, recently I've been going back and reading it or

803
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,920
going back and writing, and I just put my visions

804
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,360
in my in my journal. And I realized I always

805
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,800
used to write like cause I'm on hands person. So

806
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,239
when I got like thoughts or I got a idea

807
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,079
or something, I write it and it comes.

808
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,199
Speaker 1: So I realized that what do you mean it comes

809
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,679
like that actually happens?

810
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it happens like the stuff I used to

811
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,599
pray for when I was younger, I realize I'm growing

812
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:16,800
into it now. So it's all about timing.

813
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,519
Speaker 1: It's about timing, it's about being ready, being ready for it,

814
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,920
and honestly.

815
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, just being just staying ready. Honestly, like staying ready.

816
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:30,639
You don't know when you're actually gonna be. Like sometimes

817
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:32,320
you might not even feel ready and that might be

818
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,840
your time. So it can be tricky. Sometimes you might

819
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,320
think you ready and that's not your time. I learned

820
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,880
that too, So honestly, that's why I'm just staying prepared

821
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:48,039
for anything. I'm just expecting, like anything that happens.

822
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,679
Speaker 1: I'm just how many of the things that you've written down?

823
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,400
When did you start writing things down?

824
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: Since twenty nineteen, Okay, since twenty nineteen.

825
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:01,159
Speaker 1: Since twenty nineteen, the things you've written down, how many

826
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:02,400
of those have actually happened?

827
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: I'll say a lot of things as far as like

828
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:10,840
competing a lot and going to like more national tournaments,

829
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:16,239
getting more experience, being in rooms that I wish I

830
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,599
always wish to be in, like going to the Olympic

831
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:21,960
training Center. That's something I always wanted to do.

832
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,559
Speaker 3: So it's all happening.

833
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So stuff it's slowly happening in time. And I

834
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,760
always because I had moved from North Carolina. I was

835
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,960
born in Rochester and I moved to North Carolina and

836
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,800
I came back here. I always wanted to come. It's

837
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,960
crazy because I was just reading on Facebook. I made

838
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,719
a post and it was like, I'm going to be

839
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,280
the first female from a female boxer from Rochester to

840
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,840
put on for my city. And I always wanted to

841
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,360
come back to Rochester and and just so when I

842
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,079
make it, people know I'm actually from Rochester. So now

843
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:01,880
that I so, now that I'm glad that I came

844
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,000
back here and I trained here, and I want the

845
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:07,159
Golden Gloves here so I wouldn't be in another place,

846
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,639
not the city, and it won't feel like it's not home.

847
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,679
So I think it was meant for me to come

848
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,360
back and give the kids here hope because you don't

849
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,039
see too many people from Rochester that you know, make it,

850
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:23,480
especially being from the city. Yes, so you don't hear

851
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,480
too many people. So I think kids need that, like, oh,

852
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:29,800
somebody you know they could relate to. I think that's

853
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,360
sometimes big too, because somebody can go to school and

854
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,159
probably you know, be successful and be like, oh, never

855
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:39,360
give up, do this and all that sound good, but

856
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,840
it's like it would go over their heads. But when

857
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,519
you could touch and relate to them, I think it's like, Okay,

858
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,320
if she doing it, I could do it.

859
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me because I I'm a little weird,

860
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,719
and I believe you didn't have to agree so quickly

861
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,920
on that. Now I'm teaching, But what I'm saying is like,

862
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:04,400
I believe that our minds are very, very powerful, and

863
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:08,880
when we put it out to the universe, God, source, whatever,

864
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:14,880
and you stay focused and that something in our mind,

865
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,039
we can bring it to us. I'm not saying there

866
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:20,320
isn't work involved. You can't get, you know, from where

867
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,320
you are to being a millionaire, but you can get

868
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,280
from here to maybe fifty and then maybe one hundred

869
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,840
and then maybe you know what I'm saying, and get there.

870
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:31,159
And it is the journey. That's the journey of this,

871
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,280
and it's all part of it. And I think what

872
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,480
you're doing is great. And I love that a lot

873
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:39,920
of what you have written down has come to be

874
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,239
because you're focused and you know, and I think that's

875
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:46,719
amazing for you. Fantastic stuff, really really good. Nice to

876
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,960
see you again too. I really appreciate you coming in.

877
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,800
I know you have a lot going on. Yeah yeah,

878
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,400
and let me know on the GoFundMe for December? Is

879
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:56,960
it December?

880
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: December twenty seconds?

881
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so just before Christmas?

882
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

883
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna give yourself an early Christmas present. Yep,

884
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,920
going to knocking somebody out, a win, a win. Yeah,

885
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,199
let's get some ws a national belt. So this would

886
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:15,239
be for a national belt.

887
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: Yep. You get a belt and you become the number.

888
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: One, number one fighter.

889
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:23,559
Speaker 2: So the girl who's who fall an Olympic, so I

890
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:25,639
have a chance to be able to fight her in

891
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:26,239
that tournament.

892
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

893
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,079
Speaker 1: So yeah, and this is it, that's what you're coming for. Yeah,

894
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:34,719
all right, okay, all right? What's the music that plays?

895
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,920
Is you're in your headphones and things as you're walking

896
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:37,440
into the ring.

897
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: I have reggae music.

898
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,039
Speaker 3: Reggae music. Who's your favorite reggae artist?

899
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: I listened to a lot of dance hall, but.

900
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't so much of a dance hall fan. But

901
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,559
I'd love to booge you Bontan, Oh my god, I was.

902
00:44:49,519 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: Just listening before I came here.

903
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: I love Benny man, yep, Benny Man, BENNI man, it's

904
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,519
been many years for me, but I used to be

905
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:57,440
a little bit ves mister Vegas.

906
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm big on.

907
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

908
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,519
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, gets you up. Whatever's gonna get you

909
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:04,519
in that right space.

910
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:05,119
Speaker 3: That's great.

911
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:07,519
Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate it. It's very nice to meet you.

912
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:09,199
It's very nice to meet you as well. Thank you

913
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,519
for coming in saying nice things about your sister. We

914
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:14,760
will take a moment when we come back. We're gonna

915
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,400
talk to a guy named Chris Oliver. You hear a

916
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,800
lot of things about the southern border. Chris lives up

917
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,840
on the Canadian border and he's talking about people coming

918
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,840
across on his property. Well just listen, but it is

919
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,079
something that's happening. We'll get to all that right after this.

920
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,039
Got a business lunch coming up, and you're scratching your head.

921
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:36,719
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926
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927
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to start their annual home inspection. Got drywall damage? Mac

952
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can handle it leaky fast. In the kitchen, MAC can

953
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,960
handle that too. Don't want to hear about how dingy

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00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:27,280
the kids playroom looks? Guess what MAC can paint it.

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And if you're really trying to impress this holiday season,

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how about a full kitchen remodel. That's right, Mac of

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All Trades can handle it all, from the big projects

958
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:38,760
to the little ones that'll keep your in laws comments

959
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to a minimum. MAX got your back and what a

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gift that is. Call them at five eight five two

961
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at Macofalltrades dot net. I like to think of them

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as your very own Christmas elves, only instead of toys,

964
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:55,800
they're fixing up your house and saving your sanity, so

965
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,480
don't stress this holiday season. Call Mac of All Trades

966
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and get ready to pull it all together five eight

967
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five to zero two ninety two eighteen and online at

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00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:09,559
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969
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:14,320
on your hand something, throw your hand.

970
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,679
Speaker 9: Come on now, the Bills.

971
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm making it. Wow, it was a nail bier.

972
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,519
Speaker 9: Come.

973
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin, so I will

974
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,840
go to the guys that know more. Dan Burrillo, Hello, Danny,

975
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:30,960
come on, God, un Billy. I don't know how you

976
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:34,000
feeling after that. I mean, they were getting manhandled in

977
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,559
the first half and seemed to hang in and come back.

978
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:38,119
Speaker 3: What's that?

979
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,039
Speaker 5: Yeah?

980
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,599
Speaker 10: I was on the roof you were, and then you

981
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:47,000
touched me. I'm like, maybe I'll come down from is

982
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,440
while you're up to clean the gutter.

983
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

984
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 10: So, yeah, that was your rough first half of the

985
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:53,000
rough game.

986
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: When you're watching this game, uh, does it come down

987
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,360
to coaching more or less in terms of clock management?

988
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,039
Why are we pay instead of running the ball to

989
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:03,960
keep them out of field goal range at the end

990
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:06,199
there to try to eat the clock a little bit?

991
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:06,559
Speaker 3: I don't know.

992
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: It seemed like there might have been some questionable coaching

993
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:10,840
calls in clock management calls.

994
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 10: Well, yes, I think they're worse questionable coaching calls. But

995
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,480
at the end of the day, you got to blame

996
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:19,760
the players on this one. I mean, you want McDermott

997
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,119
to be aggressive, you want him to be assertive, right,

998
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:25,599
but then keep in their zone all of a sudden.

999
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:27,920
If you want to criticize him for not running the

1000
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,880
ball more than you can't. I mean, you got to

1001
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,719
be consistent, and he was trying for the win. I

1002
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,719
would have split the difference after that first played to

1003
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,960
Coleman once that happened, once he did have the completion.

1004
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,840
You know that Houston's got three timeouts, right, so you

1005
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,880
want to make a burn them. And so at that point, okay,

1006
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,800
you've just lost the time. He didn't make the catch,

1007
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,800
you're deep in your zone. Run Cook twice, make Houston

1008
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,559
use their timeouts, get out of the shadow of the

1009
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:54,639
end zone and be able to punt the football.

1010
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: But they were.

1011
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,639
Speaker 10: Aggressive, So I can't kill them for that. What I

1012
00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:01,079
can kill McDermott for is not challenge. You got concaid

1013
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,320
catch earlier in the game and then calling a timeout

1014
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,639
after a Coleman play where he was supposed to You know,

1015
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:09,480
it was dispute whether or not he caught the ball.

1016
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:11,280
And that drive after the fumble where they got the

1017
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,800
ball back, Yeah, I gets Houston and deepen their zone.

1018
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,320
And instead he's called a timeout just to look at

1019
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Watn't just challenge the call. You're gonna lose the timeout anyway.

1020
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't do that.

1021
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,079
Speaker 10: If you're gonna criticize McDermott for anything, it's those two plays.

1022
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,639
Not necessarily like the stuff at the end, because the

1023
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,039
end could have gone either way. They could have run

1024
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,519
the ball to go overtime and lose them were killing him.

1025
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,679
Nothing more aggressive late in the end zone when the

1026
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,760
receiver was just stuck.

1027
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,159
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1028
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: See, I thought there was some clock management stuff.

1029
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 10: I know you do.

1030
00:50:41,559 --> 00:50:45,079
Speaker 4: I know I can disagree with you. You've got to

1031
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:48,079
give yourself an opportunity to win. They didn't give themselves

1032
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:51,599
a chance to win the strategy. If you talked to

1033
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,840
most coaches, when you're down again, they're inside their five

1034
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,679
yard line. There's too much risk involved on that first play.

1035
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,400
If you get, if you get, how does it give

1036
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,719
yards up the field so you're out of the end zone.

1037
00:51:03,159 --> 00:51:05,960
So then you're not risking a holding penalty in a safety.

1038
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:08,559
You then advanced, try to advance the ball and you

1039
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:11,480
be aggressive. But when you're there and you have that

1040
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:15,039
first play and you don't get any positive yards, you

1041
00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:16,480
then try you want them to.

1042
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 10: Burn their time outs.

1043
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I only Greg. I thought there was some questionable

1044
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,119
clock management stuff. But Danny did bring up too the

1045
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,480
not challenging the catch by Kincaid along the sideline that

1046
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:34,480
certainly seemed like he did have control of the ball.

1047
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:38,199
Why do you not challenge that in that position? Was

1048
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,360
that a good call? Was that something that you figured like, hey,

1049
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,119
it's a fifty to fifty call at this point in.

1050
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 4: The first Yeah, I think I think because it because

1051
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,800
they called that an incomplete pass on the field. You

1052
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,039
have to have indisputable evidence, and it didn't look like

1053
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:53,679
he had it.

1054
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: It looked like.

1055
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,039
Speaker 4: The ball rolled in his hands from the time he

1056
00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:59,679
caught it until a time he hit the ground, and

1057
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,239
because the ball moved in his hands before it hit

1058
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,880
the ground, then it would there. I don't think they're

1059
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,280
going to change it because he's got to have complete

1060
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,559
control all the way through the ground and he didn't

1061
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:14,400
have it. He had it, and then as it went

1062
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,920
down it looked like it rolled then he hit the ground.

1063
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 10: And then it moved again. Had he caught it.

1064
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,079
Speaker 4: Clean and then it hit the then it would have

1065
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:24,000
hit after it would have rolled after hit the ground.

1066
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,159
Speaker 10: Then I think you can can challenge that and you

1067
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,719
might have an indisputable evidence.

1068
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:31,639
Speaker 4: I don't disagree that you try to use that as

1069
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,440
leverage in terms of trying to show the guys that you're.

1070
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 10: Willing to put all this stuff out and maybe you

1071
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,039
can get lucky.

1072
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1073
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 7: But for me, man, you gave them the chance to

1074
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,000
win the game in my opinion, and regulation as opposed

1075
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:51,639
to then preserving the game and letting it roll out,

1076
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,039
because they wouldn't have had the chance to do that had.

1077
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: They run the ball in my opinion, Yes, and then

1078
00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:58,280
and then it's a fifty to fifty. You know, it's

1079
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,719
a toss in the coin. You know, they if they

1080
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,519
go down and score a touchdown, then you lose. You

1081
00:53:03,519 --> 00:53:06,079
don't get a chance. But if they kick the field goal,

1082
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,360
then you get the ball back. So I prefer that's

1083
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,239
disappointing to me.

1084
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,639
Speaker 10: It's frustrating. We had it, what a great comeback right.

1085
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:18,079
Speaker 3: This isle.

1086
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,119
Speaker 4: To then have something like that, where for me, that's

1087
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:24,079
a coaching strategy, which I disagree with.

1088
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 10: I'd love to hear what of the.

1089
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: Other analysis, what the other coaches are saying about how

1090
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,519
they managed that last minute. But I don't agree with that.

1091
00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: Anybody else soiled themselves when they saw Josco down. Yes, oh,

1092
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,519
I mean, and he didn't get up right away. I

1093
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:44,840
got to tell you, my heart stopped for a second.

1094
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Dan, I don't know about you, but

1095
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,440
when I saw that, it was reminiscent to his first knockout,

1096
00:53:55,639 --> 00:53:58,840
when Milano hit him in Miami like two years ago,

1097
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:03,000
and it was like his his his left hand was

1098
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:06,480
like rolled up under and it was like, look completely limp.

1099
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:09,280
You could tell when they zoomed in on him.

1100
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 10: He was out.

1101
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 4: He did not look like he was conscious of any

1102
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,440
like aware of anything that was going on. Uh that

1103
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,440
that was very eerie to me because you when you

1104
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,760
saw the replay, you knew it was because he hit.

1105
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 10: His head on the turn.

1106
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And why do you do that?

1107
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: He had no way to stop himself because the defender

1108
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:33,079
grabbed both his ankles and pulled his feet and he

1109
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:35,400
just was like a he was he was like an

1110
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,800
umbrella falling to the ground.

1111
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: Greg, what are you sipping there. I just saw the

1112
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,840
edge of a cup. Greg said, is it fuck the water.

1113
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 5: Brother?

1114
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1115
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: The Pink concert, Now, I had friends of mine went

1116
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:49,360
to the Pink Concert and met life and said it

1117
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,599
was incredible.

1118
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:54,079
Speaker 10: I'll want the.

1119
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:56,039
Speaker 4: Call back in with this week, and I'll give him myself.

1120
00:54:56,199 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.

1121
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 10: They got Sheryl Crow's gonna be from the port today too.

1122
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,559
Speaker 5: So here we go. Here's the.

1123
00:55:04,159 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: Nice look at this, I see it everybody walking in there.

1124
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,400
Well that that's fantastic. Uh yeah, I love Sheryl Crow.

1125
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,239
I've always been a fan, and she looks good. She

1126
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,719
looks better in person than she does on any of

1127
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,360
her videos.

1128
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 10: I don't know, man, she's our para.

1129
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,199
Speaker 4: She she she hits a sweet stop.

1130
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 3: For me me too.

1131
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,599
Speaker 1: All right, well, Greg, go enjoy the show. I don't

1132
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:28,719
want to hold you up anymore, but we'll get you

1133
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:30,519
love to touch base this week.

1134
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 4: Sounds good, Thanks guys, all right, see you love you?

1135
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:40,519
Speaker 10: Bro thinks for me?

1136
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:42,039
Speaker 5: Where with McDermott.

1137
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 10: I just kind of I love him, but he's killing.

1138
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: Me today, Yeah, killing me?

1139
00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:48,599
Speaker 3: All right? There he goes, there goes Greg Connors.

1140
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,599
Speaker 1: Uh, Danny, I don't I I it's an interesting perspective

1141
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,280
that Greg has because I sort of agree with that.

1142
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,079
I go, what's happening with Clock? It feels like we

1143
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:04,199
have Clock managed problems at the coaching side in season

1144
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:04,840
after season.

1145
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 10: Yes, and gave a strong suit.

1146
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: What's that? It's not a strong suit, not.

1147
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,559
Speaker 10: Sean mcer as strong suit. Yeah, I mean, but I

1148
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:14,360
like I said, like I said, I think Greg and

1149
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,559
I kind of agreed because I was talking over the

1150
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,079
scenarios with my wife when they're in their end zones

1151
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:25,400
watch I go, I'm like, wait a minute. So but

1152
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,280
I said, I go, what do you do here? And

1153
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,440
I'm talking to her and she's like, I'm thinking she's

1154
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,840
listening to me. She's trying to shush me. But I'm like,

1155
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,599
what do you do here? Do you throw? Or do

1156
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:36,119
you run and force them to use their timeouts? You

1157
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:39,599
can't risk what do you call it? Intentional crownding penalty?

1158
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:41,239
If there's a holding call in the end zone, that's

1159
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,280
an automatic intentional crownding. That's a safety. So what do

1160
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,039
you do? And like I said with Greg, I go,

1161
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:50,480
I would you could split the difference and say, all right,

1162
00:56:50,519 --> 00:56:52,519
if you get the if you get the first down, Coleman,

1163
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:55,519
there great, now you're bowling the momentum. If you can't,

1164
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,159
you got to run, make Houston use their timeouts, get

1165
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:00,199
out of the shadow of your end zone, and and

1166
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:01,960
move on. You know that part, You know, I agree

1167
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,039
with him. I usedn't want to kill mcdero for not

1168
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:06,199
being aggressive there when we asked him to be aggressive

1169
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,800
last week and he wasn't against Baltimore a couple of times.

1170
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,239
You know, clock management has always been this dude's issue,

1171
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,880
and I think it's because it's a control thing. I

1172
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:17,840
think he gets nervous. I think we all do at

1173
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,960
certain points. We think there's so much on the line.

1174
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:20,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.

1175
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 10: Yes, we play it safe. It's funny in nature. I'm

1176
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,079
not killing him as a head coach.

1177
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:29,039
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that on the way over. I thought, Wow,

1178
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:32,599
I don't know, in that pressure moment, you ever just

1179
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:35,039
feel like you've got there's so much coming at you

1180
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,840
at one time. I'm sure everybody's in his head set

1181
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,880
and all that, and I would think that you know

1182
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,639
a lot of the look. Each person has a job.

1183
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:45,320
He is the head coach. He oversees everything, so when

1184
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,760
the when the ship falls, it falls on him either way, right,

1185
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,000
win or lose. He's either gets the well the flowers

1186
00:57:52,039 --> 00:57:56,320
as the kids say, or the or the ship going horns. Right.

1187
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: But the the.

1188
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: Tough part is it's Brady who's the offensive coordinator. And

1189
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,079
Brady's got huh good.

1190
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 5: No.

1191
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, so, don't you think he

1192
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,800
should get most of the blame on this as well

1193
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,239
for making those calls or I'm sure Sean can override them.

1194
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:17,159
But at the same time, there's so much going on

1195
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:21,280
in the game that that's why you have coordinators to

1196
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,639
take that job off, you know what I mean, handle that.

1197
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:26,519
Speaker 3: Their job is to handle that. So I don't know.

1198
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 10: Ultimately, it's like when you always said the program director

1199
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,119
of the radio station is responsible for what comes out

1200
00:58:32,119 --> 00:58:34,239
of the speaker. So he's the buck stops with him. Yeah,

1201
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,039
so if mcdermah wants to run the ball, he's got

1202
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:37,840
to tell Brady, no, just run it. We'll take it

1203
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,159
to overtime or be aggressive and throw. So Brady's now

1204
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:43,760
gonna do what mcdhermat tells him. He's his boss. So, okay,

1205
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,599
we're gonna call three pass plays here, I got you.

1206
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:48,840
They only tike sixteen seconds off the clock and Houston

1207
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,360
still had all of its timeouts. Yeah, the funniest part

1208
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,920
was that field goal. By the way, I don't know

1209
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,320
if you saw this. As soon as I think Akers

1210
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,840
went down on that last play before the field goal

1211
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:00,559
clock stopped, there should have been another second ticked off.

1212
00:59:00,599 --> 00:59:02,000
Now it wouldn't have mattered, but they got a bit

1213
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:02,599
of a home clock.

1214
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: What did they have two seconds? They had two seconds,

1215
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:07,599
it would have been one.

1216
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,639
Speaker 10: He had like wait a second, yeo sposed like to one.

1217
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,119
Speaker 1: I felt like there was a little bit of a

1218
00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:16,159
Homer Homer thing going on, but look it wasn't. Yuh

1219
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,880
and and Stefan Diggs showed up in this game for them.

1220
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,239
He had eighty two yards I believe, Yeah, I did.

1221
00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:24,960
He had eighty two yards Danny.

1222
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 10: So here's the thing you have to Yeah, you gotta

1223
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,440
give credit to that. And he had a hell of

1224
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,800
a catch on that second to last drive over the

1225
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,480
middle right where he had I'm sorry the fumble drive

1226
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,199
when they drove all over, but like Miko Collins went down,

1227
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,519
So to me, that was a perfect opportunity for Stephan

1228
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:43,239
Diggs say all right, I'll be number one receiver, get

1229
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,719
me the ball. I'll be the man, and he wasn't

1230
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:48,239
It was Dalton Schultz was the go to guy on

1231
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,480
third down, third down, third down. He was they who

1232
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:54,000
kept escaping and the running back thirty three who's a Galilee.

1233
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,239
Speaker 3: Whose name I can't pronounce me either.

1234
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 10: But like those were the digs had a few catches. Absolutely,

1235
00:59:59,559 --> 01:00:02,239
he was all for the guy where Bernard had that interception,

1236
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,920
where like he didn't get in there and get the ball.

1237
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:06,719
Speaker 1: The thing that was funny to me is, I I

1238
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:08,519
know that we like to look at this and we

1239
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:11,280
like to bring it down to you know, a revenge

1240
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,320
game kind of thing. That sort of it's fun. It

1241
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,599
makes it, it makes it fun. He wasn't a superstar

1242
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:19,880
in the game, but he was impactful. I think Stefan

1243
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,920
dicksons boss all the times. All Right, well, Danny, I

1244
01:00:23,079 --> 01:00:25,159
I appreciate you taking a little bit of time out

1245
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:27,159
of your Sunday to give it to us. The next

1246
01:00:27,199 --> 01:00:29,400
up for the Buffalo Bills will be the Jets on

1247
01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:30,119
Sunday night.

1248
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: Sunday night.

1249
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, and the Jets lost today. I don't know if

1250
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,400
you saw the Jets loose today. I did in the Minnesota.

1251
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:37,519
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the game.

1252
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:40,079
Speaker 10: I saw high reaction. He had three picks today. I

1253
01:00:40,119 --> 01:00:42,320
was in church for most of that game. I saw

1254
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,920
the last pick and he had like he had a

1255
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,880
lot of eye rolls. The honeymoon is wearing off in

1256
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,480
the meadow Lands with him and Sala and with Yeah,

1257
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:52,719
I'm celebrating too.

1258
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,119
Speaker 9: I love it.

1259
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:54,559
Speaker 10: I can't stay Rodgers.

1260
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 3: But I can stand Rogers. But I just like seeing it,

1261
01:00:58,159 --> 01:00:58,360
you know.

1262
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,239
Speaker 10: But it is but like now, all of a sudden,

1263
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,079
like the who handles the bills better than Robert Salad

1264
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:07,480
does in the meadow Lands. Other than one game, his

1265
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:10,840
defenses have handled well, we said, Josh Allen, pretty well.

1266
01:01:11,239 --> 01:01:13,599
Speaker 1: We said this was gonna be a rough three game series.

1267
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:16,039
I was hoping that they were gonna maybe drop one,

1268
01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:18,559
beat Texans, beat Jets, maybe drop Baltimore.

1269
01:01:18,679 --> 01:01:19,599
Speaker 3: Was kind of how I saw it.

1270
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: Others had said they lose, they would lose to the Texans,

1271
01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:25,599
beat Baltimore, and beat the Jets. Uh, clearly we know

1272
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:28,559
the outcome. They're down two of the three. Not not

1273
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:30,880
where we want them to be, but there it is,

1274
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:33,639
all right, Danny more analy I.

1275
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 10: Guess think about this game, though, you get there's two things,

1276
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,360
there's two groups of people. You gotta blame your receivers

1277
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:38,880
are terrible.

1278
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:40,079
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean they.

1279
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 10: Say that out loud. They missed Khalil Shakiri's not exactly

1280
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:45,960
a superstar.

1281
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:49,079
Speaker 1: No, but they did. They missed him. He's and defensively,

1282
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,960
were they missed they can't it to the pastor were

1283
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,119
they missing were they missing Von Miller?

1284
01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 5: Uh?

1285
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I guess you could say that. But he

1286
01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:02,760
only like he only looks like maybe ten fifteen plays

1287
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,320
a game. They missed a pass rush they got to

1288
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,559
They got the scout maybe two or three times.

1289
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:07,719
Speaker 1: Now.

1290
01:02:07,719 --> 01:02:11,119
Speaker 10: He sacked him once, I mean, or they forced the

1291
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:12,840
fumble an other time, or maybe he just coughed it

1292
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,199
up himself. But you know, now, I'm not killing the defense.

1293
01:02:16,239 --> 01:02:18,480
I'm killing the pass rush because the defense made a

1294
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,039
couple of big plays today kept him in the game.

1295
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:23,159
I mean they it should have been twenty eight to

1296
01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:26,039
three at the half, that one where they drove down

1297
01:02:26,039 --> 01:02:28,480
the field and then they went forward out at the

1298
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:30,719
very end. The bill stopped him on that fourth and one.

1299
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:33,239
Defense did show up. They still need a pass rush,

1300
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,719
but man like mac Collins sucks Curtis Samuel like they

1301
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,639
can't get him into the offense. He had four targets

1302
01:02:38,679 --> 01:02:42,039
from minus one yards. Think about that. I know cage's

1303
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:44,519
not getting open like what he had two or three catches.

1304
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: Maybe YEH had a great catch on the sideline. They

1305
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,039
should have they should.

1306
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 3: Have challenged that.

1307
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,159
Speaker 1: But either way, all right, well, Danny, I appreciate you

1308
01:02:52,199 --> 01:02:55,000
taking some time on your Sunday. Stand by, if you

1309
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,760
stand by, if you will, my friend, I will you.

1310
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:00,679
Speaker 9: All right?

1311
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: Well, I promised you that we would do a one

1312
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,639
on one with a guy named Chris Oliver. I said

1313
01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:09,320
I was coming next while I had this bill's interlude,

1314
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,159
and we will talk to Chris Oliver, who lives on

1315
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:15,920
the northern border about what he's seeing happen on his property.

1316
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,760
It's all that right after the y.

1317
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: Let's get real for a second.

1318
01:03:23,519 --> 01:03:25,639
Speaker 1: If you find yourself heard of the job, dealing with

1319
01:03:25,719 --> 01:03:28,719
workers comp or need help with Social Security disability, what's

1320
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,239
your move? No, seriously, what are you going to do?

1321
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:35,079
You've got insurance companies, employers and paperwork coming at you

1322
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:36,440
like a never ending.

1323
01:03:36,239 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: To do list.

1324
01:03:37,159 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: It's stressful, right well, time to put that stress on

1325
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:43,079
hold and call Connors and Ferris at two six '

1326
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:46,039
to two comp. Connors and Ferris aren't just lawyers. They're

1327
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:50,280
your personal advocates. They understand the complexities of workers' compensation claims,

1328
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,679
so you don't have to become a legal expert overnight.

1329
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,719
They know the system, they'll deal with your employer and yep,

1330
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,480
even handle those lovely insurance companies so you can actually

1331
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,440
sleep a night. Sounds pretty good, right, Connors and Ferris

1332
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,480
are committed to getting you the benefits and compensation you deserve,

1333
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:08,159
and most importantly, they're giving you peace of mind. Because

1334
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:11,119
what's better than knowing you've got an entire team fighting

1335
01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:14,159
for your rights with offices in New York City, Syracuse, Rochester,

1336
01:04:14,199 --> 01:04:17,079
and Buffalo. Wherever you are, they've got you covered. So

1337
01:04:17,199 --> 01:04:19,599
why wait, Pick up the phone and call two six

1338
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:23,039
' two comp Connors and Ferris, your workers comp attorneys,

1339
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:25,920
because you deserve to sleep soundly at night. Have you

1340
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:26,880
been to Leo's lately?

1341
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,159
Speaker 2: Oh?

1342
01:04:27,199 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: Come on, Leo's his homemade stuff breads. You're gonna love them.

1343
01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:34,119
Like pepperoni bread and cheese bread. Here's what Leo's does.

1344
01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:36,840
They take their baked Italian bread and stuff it with

1345
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:41,079
delicious pepperoni and muzzarella cheese. Uh, it's even better than

1346
01:04:41,079 --> 01:04:43,960
you're imagining right now. It's perfect as a snack or

1347
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,559
a meal. Plus they have cold salads too, like Leo's

1348
01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:50,679
owne Tuscan for Folly pasta salad made with fresh spinach, pasta,

1349
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,599
a sweet basil vinaigrette and fresh mozzarella. It's only at Leo's.

1350
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,320
Plus plenty of other cold salads, fresh baked breads, boreshead

1351
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,000
meats and cheeses, and so much much more. What's the

1352
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,280
best thing about Leo's? Say it with me. Everything on

1353
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,960
deskbats drive in East Rochester open every day. Tell them

1354
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,719
you heard about them. I'm billified Victor Chrysler Dodge Jeep

1355
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ram On Root ninety six and Victor is having a

1356
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,519
hell of a sale. That's right. This summer's wild weather.

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1360
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1361
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1362
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thousands of miles on it. I'm cruising around in a

1363
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Jeep Wrangler. I swear barely noticeable damage. The cars are new,

1364
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1372
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Speaker 9: Don't drink coffee. I take tea, My dear, I knock

1373
01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:33,400
my toe stone on one side. You can hear it

1374
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,000
my send when I talk. I'm letting English mon.

1375
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 7: In y.

1376
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 9: See me walking Downfi, walking, cane ride, mass.

1377
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,599
Speaker 1: Taking everywhere.

1378
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 5: I'm letting English.

1379
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,119
Speaker 9: Mount in York.

1380
01:07:06,519 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: Sting I'm a legal alien. We hear about a lot

1381
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,679
of border crossing and illegal aliens, and it's a hot

1382
01:07:14,719 --> 01:07:18,440
button topic in the presidential election that is less than

1383
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:23,320
five weeks away. And I think a lot of times

1384
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,039
when we think of border crossings. And if you go

1385
01:07:26,159 --> 01:07:29,800
to an episode of the podcast that we produce here

1386
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,280
at Bill Moran Productions Comcast, they talked to a border

1387
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,840
agent who is a Southern Border agent who now lives

1388
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:44,440
here in Rochester. But the southern border is where we

1389
01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:47,519
focus a lot of that on. However, there's a northern

1390
01:07:47,559 --> 01:07:51,039
border and there's been a lot of crossings that have

1391
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:54,320
been happening there. And Chris Oliver is a gentleman that

1392
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,199
has been brought to my attention and he was on

1393
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,559
his local news up there.

1394
01:07:57,599 --> 01:07:58,519
Speaker 3: We say hello to Chris.

1395
01:07:58,599 --> 01:08:04,639
Speaker 1: Chris, how are you today? I am? I'm doing well.

1396
01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:07,000
I wanted to, uh, why don't we first talk about

1397
01:08:07,159 --> 01:08:08,639
exactly where you live?

1398
01:08:09,519 --> 01:08:13,119
Speaker 3: For people who made that people, I live in.

1399
01:08:13,079 --> 01:08:16,319
Speaker 5: Port Common to New York. My house sits five hundred

1400
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:19,760
feet from the Canadian border. All that separates us is

1401
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:23,000
a ditch and a barbere fence and spots. Mostly it's

1402
01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:23,600
wide open.

1403
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 3: Okay, I hear that Canadian accent Born and raised.

1404
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 5: There, yep, yep, been here all my life.

1405
01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:37,399
Speaker 1: Family are you you're a farmer there or your family

1406
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:38,279
has a farm there?

1407
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 5: Yeah? My grandfather, Well, I'm I'm the sixth generation on

1408
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:48,359
the farm. Now. My great great grandfather came over from

1409
01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:52,960
Ireland originally and bought the land and we've been here

1410
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,319
ever since. We've had family across the border My great

1411
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:57,960
grandmother was from across the border.

1412
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,359
Speaker 1: So your great grandmother was Canadian and your great grandfather

1413
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,039
came from Ireland and he wooed a Canadian woman to

1414
01:09:05,079 --> 01:09:10,479
come over. And there you go. That's very interesting. And

1415
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,239
what do you what kind of farming do you do

1416
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:12,680
up there?

1417
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 5: We have the twenty one beef cows and we put

1418
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:20,119
up fifteen to twenty thousand small squares for horse hay

1419
01:09:20,199 --> 01:09:23,640
that we sell. Usually keeps us pretty busy between that

1420
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,079
and a full time job that I have on besides this.

1421
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 3: What's your full time gig?

1422
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 5: I work at Alcoa Alca.

1423
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,279
Speaker 3: What is Alcola?

1424
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 5: My first production?

1425
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:42,159
Speaker 1: It's food production. No aluminum, aluminum production okay, Alcola Okay, gotcha,

1426
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,880
illuminum production. So you're working forty hours a week at Alcoa.

1427
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:54,079
Speaker 5: Generally it's usually thirty six to forty eight okay.

1428
01:09:54,159 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you're doing the farming stuff. Yep,

1429
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,920
really when do you have time for fun?

1430
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:03,039
Speaker 6: Uh?

1431
01:10:03,039 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 5: Winter, but we're not doing the haying and stuff.

1432
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, because like we all think, like, hey man,

1433
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,119
I love the warm weather months. But if you're a farmer,

1434
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:14,560
that's it. I mean, let's make hay, while the sun

1435
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,880
shines is a saying because of farmers. Really, right, hey

1436
01:10:19,119 --> 01:10:21,800
the sunshine? You're working all the time? Are you? Are

1437
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,359
you married?

1438
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 5: Yes? I got a wife and three kids.

1439
01:10:26,079 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: Okay, And what has made you want to stay there?

1440
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,600
Because it is it very rural?

1441
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 5: It is it's I mean, I live on a dead

1442
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,640
end road. Yes, we've lived here all my life. My

1443
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,279
family lives all around us. I mean it's I couldn't

1444
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:42,000
dream of a better place for aise kids.

1445
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well, honestly I think all this, you know.

1446
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:46,159
Speaker 3: Sure?

1447
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: How about your wife? She from there originally too?

1448
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,359
Speaker 5: Yep, she's here.

1449
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So you grew up knowing her.

1450
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 5: Yep, you went to middle school with her?

1451
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? Minute, when did you start kind of dating her

1452
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:03,199
so to speak?

1453
01:11:03,239 --> 01:11:04,520
Speaker 3: Or showing in?

1454
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,119
Speaker 1: Showing in.

1455
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 5: Ten years after school, ten years after She likes telling

1456
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,000
everybody that I didn't want nothing to do with her

1457
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:17,840
back in middle school, and now yeah turned.

1458
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: Out Okay, Well she had a glow up. Maybe I

1459
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,000
don't know, something like that. Whatever, whatever the phrase is,

1460
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,000
I'm gonna I want to have a.

1461
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 5: Mission in school that was keep my head down and

1462
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,479
get out of there just as quick as I could

1463
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,560
do serve my time?

1464
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,239
Speaker 1: Is where I look serve your time? Well that's interesting. Hey,

1465
01:11:34,319 --> 01:11:36,239
lucky you knew what you were going to do, didn't you?

1466
01:11:37,399 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1467
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: Were you do?

1468
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: They have the FFA there the Future Farmers of America?

1469
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,199
Speaker 5: Yep, they do.

1470
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:44,399
Speaker 1: Were you part of that?

1471
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 5: I was not really more just something to say after

1472
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,159
school and I my grandfather. I wanted to get back

1473
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:54,119
home and help him out.

1474
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: And did you play Do you play any sports or anything?

1475
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:04,119
Speaker 5: Not? Really, No, you just wanted to get, like I said,

1476
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:05,960
to go there, serve my time and get home.

1477
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:09,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. So how many hours a week do you think

1478
01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:10,319
you work between the two?

1479
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:18,279
Speaker 5: Oh? Man? I sun up, sundown, sun up Sunday.

1480
01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:22,119
Speaker 1: All right, So, like here we are, and just to

1481
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:25,319
pull back the curtain, it's a little afternoon on Friday

1482
01:12:25,359 --> 01:12:27,760
when we're taping this. What are you going to do

1483
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,800
when when we're done here?

1484
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 5: Well, I just got off the tractor just mowing. Hey,

1485
01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:34,840
before I got on here, And as soon as I

1486
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,640
get done, I'm going right back out to the field

1487
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,920
to go, hey, hey, day off, my real.

1488
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,159
Speaker 1: Job, right on your day off. And then you got

1489
01:12:42,279 --> 01:12:42,960
three kids?

1490
01:12:44,199 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 5: Yep?

1491
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,239
Speaker 3: How old are the kids?

1492
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 5: Twelve? Nine and five?

1493
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: Twelve? Nine and five. So that's that's yeah, that's pretty active.

1494
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,399
And what gender all one gender?

1495
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 5: Two girl? The girls are the oldest and the boy

1496
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:02,920
one boy.

1497
01:13:03,119 --> 01:13:06,159
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, break it up. I didn't have any girl.

1498
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:08,479
I had three boys, So I don't know anything about girls.

1499
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 3: But I tell you.

1500
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,159
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Look you know what, I bet they I

1501
01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:15,359
bet truly they are.

1502
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 3: I bet truly they are.

1503
01:13:17,239 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: Like my mother told me that because it was it

1504
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,720
was me, my sister and my brother, and she would say,

1505
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,960
you and your brother would gave me no problems. You

1506
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,760
would tell me kind of what I wanted to hear,

1507
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,479
and then you would go do whatever you wanted anyway,

1508
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,840
like all kinds of stuff. And then my sister would

1509
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,359
be very honest and direct and fight with my mother.

1510
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,079
But my mother knew exactly what was happening.

1511
01:13:38,399 --> 01:13:40,359
Speaker 3: We were just pulling the wool over her eyes anyway.

1512
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,239
Speaker 1: Uh. But we're here to talk about what's happening at

1513
01:13:44,279 --> 01:13:46,039
the border. And I want to play a little piece

1514
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:50,439
that you were interviewed on New seven. Uh where's that

1515
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:51,359
at of Watertown?

1516
01:13:52,399 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 5: Watertown?

1517
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,079
Speaker 1: Yea, all right, so here is the news piece and

1518
01:13:56,119 --> 01:13:58,399
we'll take a look. Good, believable.

1519
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 11: That's how one Northern New York man describes the influx

1520
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,079
of people using his land to illegally enter the US.

1521
01:14:05,159 --> 01:14:08,239
Seventies anchor Diane Rutherford joins US Live Tonight with this

1522
01:14:08,319 --> 01:14:10,119
story after traveling to Franklin County.

1523
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:15,239
Speaker 12: Diane jeff illegal immigration isn't just a hot bush button

1524
01:14:15,319 --> 01:14:19,239
topic in this year's presidential election for Franklin County man,

1525
01:14:19,359 --> 01:14:24,920
It's an issue that hits close to home. This is

1526
01:14:25,039 --> 01:14:27,439
just some of the footage Chris Oliver has captured on

1527
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,520
a trial camera he set up on his property in

1528
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,600
Fort Covington. He says, all of these men, women and

1529
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,359
children are illegally entering the US from Canada.

1530
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,399
Speaker 1: What time of years? I mean, what month is this?

1531
01:14:39,319 --> 01:14:40,520
Speaker 3: What that was?

1532
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 5: A look at it? September fifth?

1533
01:14:43,279 --> 01:14:44,159
Speaker 3: So this is just.

1534
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 9: Wow.

1535
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: Okay, And the clip prior where people were because nobody

1536
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:51,680
looks malnourished.

1537
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 3: Do they look like no? Yeah, all right, all of

1538
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:55,199
them are.

1539
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:57,279
Speaker 5: They're all very well. I mean a lot of these

1540
01:14:57,319 --> 01:14:59,479
people have come over with very good means. I mean,

1541
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,199
they got a good junk of money on them. Okay,

1542
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:07,880
you know they're not poor people. These are very well

1543
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,479
off people that could be doing this. I believe correctly.

1544
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 3: Okay, here we.

1545
01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:14,359
Speaker 12: Go, he says. Border patrol has its own trail camera

1546
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:15,600
picking up the same thing.

1547
01:15:16,039 --> 01:15:19,119
Speaker 5: Generally, the Border patrol is here pretty quick. They're within

1548
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,479
three four minutes. Sometimes they're right at the end of

1549
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:22,039
the driveway.

1550
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:25,359
Speaker 12: The driveway is an unpaved road where Oliver's home sits.

1551
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:29,520
That courtfield across the way is Canada. His trail camera

1552
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,840
is a little farther down the road and just fewed

1553
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,199
away from the border. This wire fence is all that

1554
01:15:34,279 --> 01:15:35,560
separates the two countries.

1555
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:36,239
Speaker 9: He says.

1556
01:15:36,279 --> 01:15:39,119
Speaker 12: No one used to come around here, but that's all changed.

1557
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 5: This is unbelievable how many people have been coming across

1558
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,119
and its class year.

1559
01:15:44,199 --> 01:15:47,079
Speaker 12: Year and a half, numbers from US Customs and Border

1560
01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:51,560
Protections show illegal border crossing apprehensions have skyrocketed along what's

1561
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,359
known as the it's the border, stretching from Alexandria Bay

1562
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,840
east through Vermont and New Hampshire. So far this year,

1563
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,119
nearly eighteen thousand people have been caught entering the US

1564
01:16:01,159 --> 01:16:02,680
from cana So.

1565
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: Why do we think that eighteen thousand? And I think

1566
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,840
they go on in the in the news piece to

1567
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:11,039
say that they I think there were like three hundred

1568
01:16:11,039 --> 01:16:16,159
and sixty five. Yeah, in twenty twenty one, three hundred

1569
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:20,920
and sixty five, and now we've got eighteen thousand huge increases.

1570
01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:22,479
Why do you think that is.

1571
01:16:24,319 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 5: With the policies in New York State that they've eliminated.

1572
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,399
I know, there's like the green light project or green

1573
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:35,600
light deal also where there's no repercussion for it. I mean,

1574
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,479
you can just walk across that imaginary line and we'll

1575
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,600
take care of you. The Canadian government they allow a

1576
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,439
lot of these people to come over on a vacation visa,

1577
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:47,680
so they have five days that they can spend in

1578
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:52,039
this country in Canada legally, no problem. They get their

1579
01:16:52,079 --> 01:16:55,319
five day visa and walking on what would they get it?

1580
01:16:55,359 --> 01:16:57,760
They walk right, come right down. I mean, we live

1581
01:16:58,079 --> 01:17:00,800
an hour and a half from the Montreal airport, so

1582
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,920
they fly into Montreal, get her eye down.

1583
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:09,399
Speaker 1: And but I got to think that it's somewhat undeveloped

1584
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,319
land that they're coming in Canada, right, is it?

1585
01:17:12,359 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 3: Wood? It are?

1586
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,359
Speaker 1: It looks like it's probably very similar to your farmland.

1587
01:17:15,399 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 5: No, very similar to mine. Yeah, I mean there's a

1588
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,359
house like the barn across the border here was my

1589
01:17:22,399 --> 01:17:28,199
great grandfather. Everybody great grandmother's uh where she grew up.

1590
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 3: Okay, so that was your great grandmother where she grew

1591
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,239
up and she was Canadian yep, yeah.

1592
01:17:33,119 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's a thousand feet from my house.

1593
01:17:35,159 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 3: Yeah you ever did.

1594
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,279
Speaker 5: You look in the old sugar bush. You can see

1595
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:41,520
my grandfather's grandfather's old sugar shot and you can see

1596
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,880
it from this side looking over.

1597
01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:46,520
Speaker 1: Really, that's kind of I mean, I like that kind

1598
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,279
of history. I think that's very interesting. But uh, do

1599
01:17:49,319 --> 01:17:52,159
you ever just so you could go instead have a

1600
01:17:52,159 --> 01:17:53,039
foot in each country?

1601
01:17:54,319 --> 01:17:54,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1602
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have dual citizenship yourself?

1603
01:17:58,840 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 5: No?

1604
01:17:59,159 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 3: You do not?

1605
01:18:00,319 --> 01:18:04,159
Speaker 1: Uh do you ever travel? I mean I would assume

1606
01:18:04,239 --> 01:18:06,199
like Montreal is an hour and a half away. That's

1607
01:18:06,199 --> 01:18:10,359
a that's a fantastic city. They used to have the

1608
01:18:10,359 --> 01:18:13,000
Montreal Comedy Fest. I'm not sure if they still do anymore.

1609
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,399
And I love that. I used to go up there

1610
01:18:14,399 --> 01:18:17,359
for them. Yeah, I think. I think after COVID they

1611
01:18:17,359 --> 01:18:19,920
may have gone bankrupt. I don't know, but it was

1612
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:20,439
a great thing.

1613
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 5: There's a few little restaurants we like to go up

1614
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,520
to up in Huntington and go back, which is only

1615
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,560
ten to fifteen minutes from here. I mean the kids

1616
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,119
go out and get a dinner and we go across

1617
01:18:31,119 --> 01:18:32,079
probably once a month.

1618
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 1: Okay, it depends how hard is it for you? Not hard?

1619
01:18:37,399 --> 01:18:39,399
Do you have an enhanced license or do you have

1620
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,479
a passport?

1621
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,039
Speaker 5: I had in enhands and then we've gotten passports just

1622
01:18:45,119 --> 01:18:47,359
recently just to make it a little easier.

1623
01:18:47,359 --> 01:18:48,119
Speaker 3: A little easier.

1624
01:18:48,239 --> 01:18:52,520
Speaker 1: Right, So all these people coming in when you see this,

1625
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,399
like because I'm watching the one piece where the lady's

1626
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,039
yelling at her kids like run, run, run or whatever

1627
01:18:59,079 --> 01:19:02,439
it is. Are what is border patrol doing about this?

1628
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:06,239
Speaker 5: Uh? Well that the video that you see there. What

1629
01:19:06,399 --> 01:19:09,760
those people did. They drove through the Canadian guys driveway,

1630
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,600
drove down through their hayfield, got to my fence where

1631
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,439
one section had Barbara fence to keep my beef cows in.

1632
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 3: Yea.

1633
01:19:17,079 --> 01:19:19,279
Speaker 5: They walked up to the fence and broke it, knocked

1634
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,199
or broke the fence post over, walked up to here,

1635
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,439
then yelled at yelled and begged my wife to call

1636
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,119
border patrol. She we had her on camera, so she

1637
01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:31,880
already knew that they were coming, that they were coming

1638
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:32,279
up the hill.

1639
01:19:32,359 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 1: So they were asking for border patrol. Yep, and what

1640
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:37,840
can border patrol do.

1641
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,359
Speaker 5: They will probably pick them up, process them, and the

1642
01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:45,000
border patrol because of the current policies that we have

1643
01:19:45,319 --> 01:19:48,159
have to take them, bring them to uh. They bring

1644
01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:50,680
them up to Malone or Messina and drop them off

1645
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,960
where there's food, water and shelter and and they get

1646
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,439
a they get a cord date.

1647
01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:02,239
Speaker 1: And it's okay, and that's uh and we're where. Boy,

1648
01:20:02,279 --> 01:20:05,800
that's interesting. So they get a court date. Where are

1649
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,119
most of these people originating from?

1650
01:20:08,199 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 5: Do you know a lot of them from India? Right now?

1651
01:20:12,359 --> 01:20:15,920
We had Mexico, a lot of people from Mexico. The

1652
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,800
people in the video, those were Irish Irish gypsies.

1653
01:20:21,039 --> 01:20:23,159
Speaker 1: That is what yep, did you say gypsies?

1654
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 5: They no, no, no, no, said they're Irish gypsies. But you

1655
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,359
don't want to call them Irish gypsy's two of their

1656
01:20:29,399 --> 01:20:35,359
face okay, get pretty yeah whatever the correct term would be.

1657
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I never I don't think I've

1658
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,720
ever heard of that Irish gypsies. But uh, it makes sense.

1659
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,520
Speaker 5: Total of eighty three different countries that come across.

1660
01:20:44,199 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: Here, eighty three different countries, and they.

1661
01:20:47,399 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 5: Know that it's between Soulaine and I mean the just

1662
01:20:51,119 --> 01:20:52,199
wanting sector.

1663
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: Okay, so what it sounds like to me if I'm

1664
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,399
looking at this, it's not so much a federal issue,

1665
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:05,079
although I'll tell you, like I had been married, and

1666
01:21:05,119 --> 01:21:07,840
I guess technically I still am. I'm legally separated. But

1667
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,960
my brother in law married a woman from the Philippines.

1668
01:21:11,359 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 3: He was a.

1669
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 1: Captain in the army. It took a very long time

1670
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,680
to get her in the country and was unable to

1671
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:25,319
get her daughters in because the immigration policies are such.

1672
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so I.

1673
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,359
Speaker 1: Don't know and everybody at the time, and I had

1674
01:21:30,399 --> 01:21:32,199
my head up my ass not really paying attention to

1675
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:36,640
that process, right, But I would say that what I

1676
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:42,119
would hear often was we need to revamp our policies

1677
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:42,760
in some way.

1678
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:43,520
Speaker 3: We need to.

1679
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: Make it I don't want to say easier, but less

1680
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,840
complicated is the problem.

1681
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,239
Speaker 5: And she didn't have a burst of She was born

1682
01:21:53,279 --> 01:21:56,920
in Canada and never had a birth certificate until five

1683
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,560
years ago. Okay, it cost hers thousands of dollars to

1684
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,720
finally gary birth certificate, and I'd hire a lawyer and

1685
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,560
everything else. She'd been through the process, Okay, and I

1686
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,600
get it took her a long time, but she did

1687
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,600
it right, Yes, yes, it is a pain, and I

1688
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,520
get it in a way, but like I mean, not

1689
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,840
all these people are good people. That's why some of

1690
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,359
them are coming across.

1691
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 3: Like this, not all.

1692
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: So you said there's eighty three different countries, and I

1693
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,760
think the number along that what's it called the I

1694
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,199
want to say Swanson almost like the meat.

1695
01:22:30,199 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 3: But I know that I know that wast.

1696
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: Swanton the Swanton border right, and there's been what was

1697
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:43,600
the number, eighteen thousand, eighteen thousand, eighteen thousand, So I

1698
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,199
know that if you watch go further into the piece

1699
01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:49,239
and people who can look for themselves. It's channel seven

1700
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,479
at a watertown. And I think they did a two

1701
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:52,319
part series with you.

1702
01:22:52,359 --> 01:22:54,079
Speaker 3: In my correct it is so.

1703
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:57,239
Speaker 5: Monday and Tuesday night, and then I see last night

1704
01:22:57,279 --> 01:23:00,359
they had another thing with it. But they were talking

1705
01:23:00,359 --> 01:23:05,439
about the policies with Dan Stack, and I believe at

1706
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,119
least to phonic, I can't remember. And if we had

1707
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:11,439
dance Stack here, Dan came up and seen the area,

1708
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,880
walked around, we showed them where the cameras were and everything.

1709
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,960
Like he said, unfortunately, there's nothing that they can do

1710
01:23:18,039 --> 01:23:22,359
about it. It's above them, it's you know. But like

1711
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,399
Dan said, he can at least if they're voting on

1712
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,319
a border bill, he can say, hey, I've actually been there,

1713
01:23:27,359 --> 01:23:27,640
have you?

1714
01:23:28,079 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right?

1715
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: So I think later in the piece there was a

1716
01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:36,720
person who had committed murders in Canada and I think

1717
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,920
it was plural, like more than one yep, and they

1718
01:23:40,079 --> 01:23:42,560
picked him up in New York. But he had crossed

1719
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,239
over on your trail cam.

1720
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 5: No, I don't believe it was on my trio camera.

1721
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:50,920
He was caught just on the southern end of my property.

1722
01:23:51,079 --> 01:23:54,319
Speaker 3: Southern end of your property. How does that? How does

1723
01:23:54,319 --> 01:23:54,680
that feel?

1724
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,079
Speaker 1: When he got two little girls and a little boy

1725
01:23:57,159 --> 01:23:58,079
who's five years old.

1726
01:23:58,159 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 3: I mean, that's.

1727
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: Unsettling, it is, it is?

1728
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,239
Speaker 5: I mean how I mean you have people? I mean

1729
01:24:03,279 --> 01:24:05,159
if you're at your house and you got people walking

1730
01:24:05,159 --> 01:24:07,079
by your house in the middle of the night, and

1731
01:24:07,119 --> 01:24:09,279
your dogs are barking all the time, or you're looking

1732
01:24:09,319 --> 01:24:12,359
in your windows, I mean it's now. I'd be at

1733
01:24:12,399 --> 01:24:16,159
work at that time too, right, because I worked midnights

1734
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:20,439
and stuff too. So you are one helpless Yeah, I mean,

1735
01:24:21,319 --> 01:24:22,920
we live in the middle of nowhere and I can't

1736
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,720
I don't dare let my kids go outside to play

1737
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,399
by themselves because you don't know if somebody's gonna.

1738
01:24:27,159 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: Walk by, right, I would Yeah, I probably be the

1739
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,119
opposite to go just run, you know, the property gutter.

1740
01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:39,199
Speaker 3: But I hear you. I I know exactly what you're saying.

1741
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 5: You know why people say, oh, I mean the reason

1742
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,000
I put all these videos out on Facebook was originally

1743
01:24:45,039 --> 01:24:48,439
because nobody talks about the northern border, right and no,

1744
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,079
I mean there was people in my own town that

1745
01:24:50,079 --> 01:24:53,039
didn't believe this was going on. Yeah, and I said,

1746
01:24:53,039 --> 01:24:55,399
you know what, here, we'll just start posting everyone and

1747
01:24:55,520 --> 01:25:00,439
eventually somebody's gonna see it, and you know it'll be something.

1748
01:25:02,239 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 1: So what is the message you would like to say

1749
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,920
to people? Because, as I was starting to say, New

1750
01:25:08,039 --> 01:25:12,439
York State is where they're coming in, and they're coming

1751
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,479
into New York State, as you said, because we had

1752
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,359
policies to try to help people, I think, you know,

1753
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:24,680
asylum and these sorts of things, and you know, it

1754
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,399
becomes something like here's the Here's the problem that I

1755
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,079
see long term with with people is I don't want

1756
01:25:31,079 --> 01:25:32,720
to see human suffering and I don't want to see

1757
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,920
it around the world. And if we can give somebody

1758
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,239
this whole country was built on, as you said, your

1759
01:25:37,279 --> 01:25:40,840
great grandfather was from Ireland, as were the majority of

1760
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:45,359
my family, right, all from Ireland. I don't know the

1761
01:25:45,359 --> 01:25:47,359
policies when they came here. I don't know if anybody

1762
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,560
snuck in, I don't know, but I would say that

1763
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,359
so we are a melting pot. And that's what this

1764
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,520
country was built on. And I still believe the country

1765
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,600
of opportunity, right, I mean, and sometimes you will see

1766
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:07,439
as generations go on in America, you get you know,

1767
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,640
I'll say softer and softer, and by that I mean

1768
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:15,319
that life's become easy. Right. You know, your kid grows

1769
01:26:15,399 --> 01:26:17,920
up with you know, Netflix and the Xbox and a

1770
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,039
huge TV and air conditioning and right, and there isn't

1771
01:26:21,079 --> 01:26:24,279
that drive to hey, you got a better life, and

1772
01:26:24,319 --> 01:26:26,439
someone there kind of cracking the whip going. You don't

1773
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,000
know what I went through and I came here. I

1774
01:26:29,159 --> 01:26:30,920
put my ass on the line to come here to

1775
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,039
give you a better life. But that's not everybody that's

1776
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:37,600
coming in. That's not as you're saying, and that's been proven.

1777
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,199
But it's a New York State problem. And so what

1778
01:26:41,239 --> 01:26:43,800
would you say to people who are voting, because I

1779
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:48,079
often will say, yes, the presidential election gets a tremendous

1780
01:26:48,119 --> 01:26:51,720
amount of attention. But what really impacts my life more

1781
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,439
than anything is my local elections and even at my

1782
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,760
state level, and this certainly is a state level, I

1783
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,760
believe for most of it.

1784
01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 5: It's all the way across. It starts right out of

1785
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,199
the state and goes all the way up to federal. Yeah,

1786
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,479
I've had it. Like I said, Dan Stack, reach out.

1787
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,960
He came. I've had at least a phonic We talked

1788
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,800
to her on the phone about it, and at least

1789
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,079
she took the time to show concerns. I talked to

1790
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:25,079
Simla man Gray from Watertown area. At least he expressed

1791
01:27:25,079 --> 01:27:28,399
his concerns. I've reached out to the other side of

1792
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:34,560
the aisle, our local representative, Billy Jones, and I have

1793
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,359
not heard a single phone call back from him, and

1794
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:42,520
I was told by their office that it's a federal thing,

1795
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,640
not a state I told the lady, I said, if

1796
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,399
it's happening in their own backyard and you're my representative,

1797
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,000
you should be very concerned with what's going on.

1798
01:27:53,159 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: Right, it seems to me like I don't know, because

1799
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,720
I didn't think I knew much about the northern border,

1800
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,840
and certainly New York State is not the only one

1801
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,960
that borders Canada. But I would think, like are other

1802
01:28:05,079 --> 01:28:08,920
are we seeing anything, are you hearing anything in your

1803
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,000
research or maybe reaching out to people other states that

1804
01:28:12,079 --> 01:28:16,159
border Canada with this is happening like Montana's and you

1805
01:28:16,199 --> 01:28:21,279
know that little Wyoming Yeah, yeah.

1806
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,159
Speaker 5: That's odd. And you know a lot of that is

1807
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:26,439
because a lot of time, well they get a court date.

1808
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,000
Here the last video there they had on Channel seven,

1809
01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:32,800
they're talking about how they get a debit card, a

1810
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:37,199
cell phone and they go to a city. So in Rochester, Albany,

1811
01:28:37,279 --> 01:28:39,279
New York City, they're all down they had them.

1812
01:28:39,199 --> 01:28:42,319
Speaker 1: Down there, So that that's interesting because so that to me,

1813
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,760
that's where I'm saying. It sounds like it's the more

1814
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:50,199
attractive state to get into. Right if I'm absolutely I'm destitute, Yeah, right,

1815
01:28:50,279 --> 01:28:53,399
I can get I can get a chance to establish

1816
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,640
myself in some way, which I think that that I

1817
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,880
thought the philosophy behind that, uh well, is to try

1818
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,079
to eliminate crime. Right, I'm not just stealing to feed

1819
01:29:05,119 --> 01:29:07,960
my family. Maybe I got it, but it becomes at

1820
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,800
the taxpayer's expense. And then what also happens is if

1821
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,800
you don't have healthcare, and you show up at the

1822
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,760
emergency room, they got to see you, and that becomes

1823
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,560
a burden on the healthcare and everybody's paying for that.

1824
01:29:20,039 --> 01:29:22,880
So I think this is important. Let me go to

1825
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,439
the because I did start to ask and then I

1826
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:26,560
interrupt myself.

1827
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:28,079
Speaker 3: This is bad habit.

1828
01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 1: But what things are they leaving behind on your property?

1829
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 5: We found money, a lot of clothes, a lot of garbage, jackets,

1830
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,920
shirts all over the woods. We had a girl drive

1831
01:29:44,039 --> 01:29:47,279
through the Canadians cornfield across the border, drove a thousand

1832
01:29:47,319 --> 01:29:50,079
feet through their cornfield, got to the ditch, drove the

1833
01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:51,960
card into the ditch because she didn't see it because

1834
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,640
it was two three o'clock in the morning, and not

1835
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:58,399
Mercedes is now sitting in my driveway because they got

1836
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:00,840
out of it and took off running and border trol

1837
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:01,800
apprehended them.

1838
01:30:02,039 --> 01:30:06,279
Speaker 3: Okay, and what are you gonna do with the Mercedes?

1839
01:30:06,399 --> 01:30:07,840
You got a Mercedes, buddy.

1840
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, high mile with Mercedes.

1841
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just saying the Mercedes, you know you

1842
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,720
could gotta I don't know it be something that you know.

1843
01:30:17,279 --> 01:30:18,840
I mean, what do you do for fun up there?

1844
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,199
I assume you got some four wheelers a gator or

1845
01:30:21,239 --> 01:30:23,600
something a little uh side by side.

1846
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 3: You got a side by side up there.

1847
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 5: Yep, we got a gator and we go out riding

1848
01:30:28,079 --> 01:30:31,199
and sure, I mean a lot of hunting. Yeah, I

1849
01:30:31,239 --> 01:30:32,800
mean that when we find a lot of the garbage

1850
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:33,560
when we're out hunting.

1851
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:34,399
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

1852
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: Do you ever come across somebody trying to cross while

1853
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:37,479
you're hunting?

1854
01:30:39,159 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 5: I haven't yet, but I've been back there and had

1855
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,359
people walk out when we were back there.

1856
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:47,159
Speaker 1: Uh, that's gotta be that's gotta be a little scary,

1857
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,760
like only just because you're not expecting it, right, and

1858
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,439
it's almost like startles you and you don't know. Have

1859
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,000
you held anybody like with your gun up just going

1860
01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:59,039
just to see what they were doing?

1861
01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 3: No?

1862
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,279
Speaker 5: No, but I know what they're doing. I mean yeah,

1863
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,039
Like I said, we live on a dead end road.

1864
01:31:05,039 --> 01:31:07,239
There's no reason for anybody to be coming out of there.

1865
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,600
I mean, you know there's a road five hundred feet

1866
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,079
on the other side of the border.

1867
01:31:12,199 --> 01:31:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1868
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,279
Speaker 5: So that's why it makes it so easy, And that's

1869
01:31:14,279 --> 01:31:19,159
why I can guarantee that they are illegal, because they're not.

1870
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,319
I know most of the people who live on that

1871
01:31:21,359 --> 01:31:23,319
side of the road, that side of the border.

1872
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,239
Speaker 1: What when does hunting? When is deer hunting season start

1873
01:31:27,239 --> 01:31:27,840
in New York State?

1874
01:31:29,399 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 5: Right now?

1875
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:30,159
Speaker 3: Right now?

1876
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Shot most seasons right now, most season right now? One

1877
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:38,279
is shotgun beginnings. I guess is that like h righty?

1878
01:31:38,279 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 7: Full?

1879
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,119
Speaker 5: I think both starts in two weeks?

1880
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Speaker 1: Two weeks, Okay, that's what I was thinking. So that

1881
01:31:43,039 --> 01:31:45,359
did you when you were a kid, did you take

1882
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the day off from school?

1883
01:31:48,279 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1884
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Speaker 5: I had with scheduled sick days, and I made sure

1885
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to use every twenty eight.

1886
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Speaker 3: That's pretty funny.

1887
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Speaker 1: Wait, they had scheduled six days six days in your school?

1888
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Speaker 5: I did, Oh, I knew I could guessed twenty eight

1889
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days at school and I made sure to use everything.

1890
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, what is the message you would want to

1891
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say to elected officials and people are that are going.

1892
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Speaker 3: To be heading to.

1893
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Speaker 1: The ballot box so to speak to vote? What what

1894
01:32:18,399 --> 01:32:20,760
message do you want them to hear from from you

1895
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and your experience?

1896
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Speaker 5: I mean, put yourself in my shoes. Yeah, you're at

1897
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,680
work full time. You have random people walking by your

1898
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,000
house at all times of night. You don't know that

1899
01:32:35,079 --> 01:32:38,600
these people are good or bad. It's not a very

1900
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good feeling. And I mean whether it's Trump or Harris.

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I mean, I know a lot of people don't like Trump,

1902
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but when you compare the two side by side with

1903
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like this issue here, track record shows Trump's a lot

1904
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:57,640
better at it than Harris was. To me, I feel

1905
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,439
he will do a better job than she will when

1906
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it comes to this.

1907
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Speaker 1: Issue, to this issue, right, Yeah, I can understand, uh,

1908
01:33:05,159 --> 01:33:08,800
your your feelings on that, and I can't imagine, you know,

1909
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it would be unsettling to have anybody just look. I

1910
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was on radio for a long time. I remember one

1911
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of my youngest son was born or out sunny day

1912
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and somebody, Jaggaby comes running into the yard just to

1913
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say hello, and my wife like freaked out. I can't

1914
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imagine complete. You know, you're trying to sleep. It's rural

1915
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voices carry, right, you'll hear that, you know, it's so

1916
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,680
peaceful and quiet. Having grown up in a rural area myself,

1917
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,399
you hear the voices and they carry at night a

1918
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little a little more like you're going. You hear voices.

1919
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It freaks you out. I mean, just think of your

1920
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own house, like it freaks you out. Are these people?

1921
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Speaker 5: You should feel safe in your own house? Yeah, at

1922
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this point you don't and.

1923
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

1924
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Speaker 5: There's nowhere to be safe at this point.

1925
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you have the cameras and stuff. Do you

1926
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have an alarm system as well in case somebody tried

1927
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:02,520
to get into your house. Has that happened where someone

1928
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:03,479
has tried to get in?

1929
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Speaker 5: Not my house. That happened at my sister's house. A

1930
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guy was trying to get up on their front porch,

1931
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tried getting in the house. Luckily my sister was able

1932
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to lock the door before he got in. Yeah, dog

1933
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wood was outside and I got after the guy a

1934
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:22,079
little bit, okay, and then I called door control to

1935
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have them come get them. Yeah, so they ended up.

1936
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I mean, my brother in law, do you show the

1937
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guy a gun to get him off their stets?

1938
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

1939
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Speaker 5: And my nieces were right there.

1940
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Speaker 1: I mean that's and that's not something you want. Yeah,

1941
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you don't want your kids and now you don't have

1942
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you tried to talk.

1943
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Speaker 5: To the other interview one of the other interviews we did.

1944
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,960
The guy asked my son or was asking me, you know,

1945
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it seems peaceful? Is it peaceful here? My five year

1946
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old look down goes it.

1947
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Speaker 3: Used to be?

1948
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's five. Yeah, he understands you know, hey, this

1949
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,880
is not right, you know what I mean, compared to

1950
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what it was last year. You know, even to him,

1951
01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:02,000
he understands.

1952
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Speaker 1: Yeah, how many people do you estimate have come across

1953
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:05,319
your property?

1954
01:35:05,319 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 3: Do you think this is?

1955
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 5: In the week? The week the week leading up to

1956
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,319
Labor Day weekend? We had forty eight people on my camera.

1957
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Speaker 1: Forty eight people in that way in that one week,

1958
01:35:17,119 --> 01:35:19,600
in that one week. And how about that one week,

1959
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,880
how about the year prior, let's go, you know, the

1960
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:23,560
same kind of.

1961
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Speaker 5: Nothing, nothing, nothing, two years ago, nothing nothing. So this

1962
01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:30,520
is even I wouldn't even a dreamt that this even

1963
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would be a thing.

1964
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is.

1965
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Speaker 1: It's strange. The timing of it all is a little

1966
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curious to me, is it not to you as well?

1967
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Speaker 3: It's a little curious. I I don't know what that means.

1968
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Speaker 1: But with an election coming up and all of a

1969
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,239
sudden a few months before.

1970
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,199
Speaker 5: You all you need to become your registered voter is

1971
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:58,279
a address, so they cannot be released from border patrol

1972
01:35:58,359 --> 01:36:01,840
until they have that address, a physical address.

1973
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So in your opinion, do you think that there

1974
01:36:06,119 --> 01:36:14,039
is some other entity that's facilitating people, facilitating this.

1975
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Speaker 3: Getting people into Canada?

1976
01:36:18,199 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: Like, you're right. Some I don't know. Call it the

1977
01:36:21,119 --> 01:36:23,800
message on the dark web. I have no idea.

1978
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it bothered me. I went voted lot or four

1979
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:28,840
years ago. When I went and voted. We live in

1980
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,880
a very small town. And I told my grandfather, he's

1981
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,720
eighty years old, like I told him, it bugs me

1982
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,119
that I went to go vote. I pulled out my

1983
01:36:37,159 --> 01:36:38,760
wallet and went to go show her my d and

1984
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,760
she goes, oh, you don't need that, and I said,

1985
01:36:41,319 --> 01:36:43,960
you don't know me, and the lady goes, no, I

1986
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:45,760
just need your address, and I said, okay, So I

1987
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,840
gave her my address and I got my ballot and

1988
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,800
away I went. So I told my grandfather after that,

1989
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,720
I said, I know my uncle didn't vote, but I

1990
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,600
know his address, so if I registered him to vote,

1991
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:00,880
and I can think of this, and I'm just a redneck,

1992
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,640
you'll bill or whatever you want to go with here.

1993
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:05,880
If I can figure that out, why why can't I

1994
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,359
just go to the polling station twelve hours later and say, Hey,

1995
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I'm this guy, here's my address, take my ballot and go.

1996
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Speaker 3: That's interesting too.

1997
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Speaker 5: Yeah I don't.

1998
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:20,279
Speaker 1: I was trying to think. I know they always no,

1999
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,439
they always compared, and I don't know if they do

2000
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:27,640
this where you are, they compare the signature to the

2001
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,880
last time, right, so when I sign and that I

2002
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:35,840
get you know, at least there's something. Nobody's got my strumble,

2003
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,479
but nobody's got my scribble.

2004
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 3: Man, you could write with your you know the guy enough.

2005
01:37:40,279 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 5: And you knew Yeah, sure, you know if I feel

2006
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,720
like a family member, I mean, why not anyway? I mean,

2007
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,479
if I can think of that, what else is going on?

2008
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:48,039
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2009
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 5: I'm not that technological and I don't play much on computers,

2010
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:54,960
and I can kind of drum that up myself. I mean,

2011
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:56,880
there's a lot more people smarter than me.

2012
01:37:58,119 --> 01:37:58,399
Speaker 3: Mmm.

2013
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's very interesting. I do wonder if so

2014
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,840
I would say what your message would be? Would kind

2015
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:10,800
of put yourself in my shoes and think of the

2016
01:38:11,159 --> 01:38:14,560
safety of people. Have you tried to talk to any

2017
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,359
of the people that are coming through? Do you ever

2018
01:38:16,399 --> 01:38:17,560
say what what's going on?

2019
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:18,039
Speaker 3: Nothing?

2020
01:38:19,079 --> 01:38:21,520
Speaker 5: I haven't and not. It's because border troll have told

2021
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,840
us to stay right away from them. Okay, do not

2022
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,680
make contact with these people, don't threaten these people. Just

2023
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:28,720
let them go through and call us.

2024
01:38:29,039 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, right, you know, like hey.

2025
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 5: And today, like people have said on the videos that

2026
01:38:36,039 --> 01:38:38,159
I post, everybody, well you should start shooting at them.

2027
01:38:38,199 --> 01:38:40,640
You can't shoot at these people. Some of them got kids.

2028
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:41,439
You got to have a heart.

2029
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,359
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I think too, is like I go,

2030
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,720
I'm a human being, they're a human being.

2031
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not here. I get the track.

2032
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I've had gotten yelled at for

2033
01:38:53,359 --> 01:38:55,600
trespassing in woods in the past. We used to play

2034
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,079
in the woods all the time, and I think somebody

2035
01:38:57,119 --> 01:39:00,560
came out once and right yelled at us. But I yeah,

2036
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,800
I mean, you're right. You don't want to and you're

2037
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,439
not there to just get All you want to do

2038
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:08,720
is keep your your family safe and in the long run,

2039
01:39:09,159 --> 01:39:12,600
hopefully keep the country safe. And I can see that,

2040
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,159
and as I you know, it pains me because I

2041
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,640
do hate. I don't know where they're coming from. And

2042
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,000
you see all the termoil in the world, and I go, well,

2043
01:39:20,039 --> 01:39:24,600
I'm only here because past generations came right, did the

2044
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,800
ugly work, did the dirty work to make it so

2045
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:27,920
I can sit here and.

2046
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:28,520
Speaker 3: Talk to you.

2047
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,079
Speaker 1: But but but there is a right way and there

2048
01:39:32,119 --> 01:39:34,199
is the wrong way. And when it comes down to

2049
01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:38,039
that sometimes, you know, taking emotion out of it and

2050
01:39:38,039 --> 01:39:41,199
trying to think of the betterment of everything as what

2051
01:39:41,239 --> 01:39:43,880
we need to do. And that's not always how we vote, right,

2052
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,239
Sometimes people, you know you vote a little different. But

2053
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:50,359
it's an interesting conversation, for sure. I wish you a

2054
01:39:50,399 --> 01:39:53,439
lot of luck. Nothing's been nothing's been stolen from your

2055
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:56,479
property or has it other than the damaged fence. I mean,

2056
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,119
that's a pain in the ass. Try putting up a

2057
01:39:58,119 --> 01:40:03,039
barb byer fence, folks. That is not pleasant or easy.

2058
01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, especially when you're at work.

2059
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:07,399
Speaker 1: And you go, I mean, well, I mean, did any

2060
01:40:07,399 --> 01:40:08,640
cattle go to Canada?

2061
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 5: Then I gotta pay do the hassle of getting them back.

2062
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, if they if the cattle had

2063
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:17,439
gotten through, did they get through?

2064
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,159
Speaker 5: No, they did not. We were able to fix it

2065
01:40:20,159 --> 01:40:21,039
before they got there.

2066
01:40:21,159 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: Okay, But if the cattle had gotten through and got

2067
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,439
into Canada, is that like a whole legal hassle for

2068
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,199
you or is it just.

2069
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,039
Speaker 5: What? And then and then the other thing is to

2070
01:40:32,079 --> 01:40:35,239
get them to track them down, because there's hardly over there,

2071
01:40:35,279 --> 01:40:38,840
there's hardly any fences anymore, So try and catch them

2072
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,720
and get them back here. Yeah, it would be quite

2073
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:43,560
quite a hassle.

2074
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, and beef is not.

2075
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,199
Speaker 5: Beaf's pretty highering now, So I mean I would take

2076
01:40:49,239 --> 01:40:54,600
someone to say, well, guess what you yeah, profit for them?

2077
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,399
Speaker 3: You know, Oh, I got you. So.

2078
01:40:56,439 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 1: In other words, possession is is all. Possession becomes one

2079
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,600
hundred percent of the law in Canada. I don't know.

2080
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's in Canada, but I'm just saying, yeah,

2081
01:41:08,079 --> 01:41:11,560
sure you probably not. I mean, yeah, why not it

2082
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:12,159
could happen.

2083
01:41:12,399 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you.

2084
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like a giant pain in the ass

2085
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,520
if nothing else right and nobody has it, it doesn't sound

2086
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:21,960
like you have much time for that, you know.

2087
01:41:22,159 --> 01:41:23,279
Speaker 3: No, no, there's better.

2088
01:41:23,319 --> 01:41:25,520
Speaker 5: And it's like on my videos, people thought that, oh

2089
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,960
it's fake and I staged this, and I just chuckled

2090
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:31,119
with myself, like, yep, I stage it. Okay. I got

2091
01:41:31,159 --> 01:41:33,520
a full time job plus a farm, and I hire

2092
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,720
random people, dressed them up and have them walk by

2093
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,199
my cameras for fun at you know, between midnight and

2094
01:41:38,319 --> 01:41:40,079
five point thirty in the morning, because I'm bored.

2095
01:41:40,159 --> 01:41:41,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you.

2096
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,279
Speaker 1: Well, I wish you a lot of luck, and I

2097
01:41:44,279 --> 01:41:45,760
know you got to get back on the tractor.

2098
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 3: I I.

2099
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 1: It's just something for people to consider, right, It's another

2100
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:53,560
thing that I don't think we're aware of. And if

2101
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,760
you're still trying to make up your mind as to

2102
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,199
which way to vote, this is something to think about

2103
01:41:59,399 --> 01:42:03,000
if nothing else. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate your time. Thank

2104
01:42:03,039 --> 01:42:06,039
you very much, No problem, thank you, all right, good

2105
01:42:06,119 --> 01:42:11,399
luck there he goes Chris Oliver. Boy, what an interesting

2106
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:16,800
story that is. Huh that is something very like I said,

2107
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:18,479
food for thought, if nothing else