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one punch, one round, one step, one punch one round Today,
two time Golden Glove champion and can I say Olympic
hopeful as an Olympic hopeful Algeria.
Speaker 3: Johnson is back in the studio.
Speaker 1: We talked to her a couple of months ago before
you were heading out to I believe it was Colorado,
Right you were.
Speaker 3: Going out to.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Aspen? Was it an Aspen? It
was talk rating that we go it.
Speaker 2: What was Colorado springs? For the Campford Olympians?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why they were going to Paris?
Speaker 1: So how did that go for you? When he went
out there?
Speaker 2: It was a really good experience I had. I was
able to get experienced in sparn with the girl who's
number one of my weight class. Yeah, they actually fought
in the Olympics at one okay, so I was able
to share the ring with her and also a few
other Olympians at different weight classes, and we did training
with them. We did a morning training, afternoon training. So
we learned, like certain things that they're looking for in Olympics, like.
Speaker 1: What are they looking for, like what would be different
or things that they that you left there are going
I need to work on this more so.
Speaker 2: Of the things of how they score internationally. Okay, here
in the US, certain things they look for an international
tournaments like side steps and they look for check hooks.
They look for a lot of different things that they're not.
Speaker 1: Really so side steps meaning like a slip, So it's
like a move like.
Speaker 3: To avoid a punch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a move that they look for, like
that's a real big thing and they.
Speaker 3: Give you and they give you points for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They it's like the international scoring. They score different
from it from like fighting.
Speaker 1: Nattie just the USA explain everybody at a USA tournament,
because I always thought it was just really from head
to kind of waste. You you touch the body anywhere
in there and that was a point.
Speaker 2: Well, a scoring system, THEREY score from your face to
your bottom stomach. That's the scoring system first.
Speaker 1: So you don't get any points for avoiding a punch.
Speaker 2: Yes, they score for defense. They look for certain things defense.
They want to see if you could hit and not
get hit. They want to see you're throwing a lot
of punches, you're real active, So they look for different things.
It's just a different type of scoring. I just know
a couple of things they look for internationally. I never
fought internationally yet, so, but being in camp, they had
showed us a few of the moves that you know
they look for in the international tournament.
Speaker 1: Harder, I would say to think about in there, yeah.
Speaker 2: More yeah, a little more technical versus like the pros,
like the scoring, because everything fast and amateur so I think,
like everything is more like in the pros, everything slows
down a little bit more so. Immateur is three minutes,
three rounds, so it's like a fast paced. But you
know they look for certain things.
Speaker 1: They look for certain things. So are you uh so
it's only three rounds three minute three rounds?
Speaker 3: Is that what you said? Yeah? So what is your
plan then to go moving forward?
Speaker 2: Like in the ring.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I'm in the ring, I just feel my opponent
out the first ten seconds. So I can't before a fight,
I can't like say what I'm gonna do, right, I
gotta fiel my opponent out if I know who I'm fighting,
or I've been got the experience and okay, you know,
I'll probably try to break them down the way I
know to break them down. But I usually go in
the fight and fill them out the first ten seconds.
I don't go in there like thinking all I gotta
do this and this and that. I just let it
come naturally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But to get to you want to be an
Olympic boxer, right, So what is the plan to get
back to get to that level.
Speaker 2: Well, they have a big tournament in December which I'm
going to fight in, and that basically is the starting
for the Olympics for Los Angeles in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Six, twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah eight. Yeah, so that's like the like how they
select this tournament. So if whoever wins in this tournament,
that's like the settings step for the Olympics in twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you'll be like the number one And you.
Speaker 1: Got to be so disciplined yourself right now, like in
what you're eating and when you're going to bed and
when you're getting up. And I know you have a
full time job, yes, yeah, so how are you balancing
all that.
Speaker 2: I'll work in the morning and then as soon as
i leave from work, I'll go straight to the gym.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So a closer to camp, I'm gonna be like training
in another in another state.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be training in another state, yea, or.
Speaker 2: Getting work from there in Ohio, Ohio. Okay, I'm be
going there to get work and stuff, just to be
in another environment where I can you know, learn more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when are you gonna do that.
Speaker 2: I'm leaving two weeks.
Speaker 3: In two weeks, and how long will you be there?
Speaker 2: I'm just going for the weekend. For the weekend going
up there a lot to get sparring and stuff.
Speaker 1: Sparring and stuff. Yeah, the worst injury that you've had lately?
Speaker 3: Is there anything?
Speaker 2: No, no injury, I mean no.
Speaker 1: No crack rib no, nothing like that. Nobody's touching you.
Come on, come on, that's some stuff talk to me about.
The Olympics had some controversy this year in in the
women's boxing with uh, somebody from another country and I
think it was Algeria. Algeria, That's what I thought, which
I thought was kind of funny. But I was like, right,
because that's your name.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So here comes a boxer who they're saying is not
trans but is born with.
Speaker 2: The males.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's got like the X chromosome. But even
though and it doesn't present until puberty more or less
and maybe there's not to be too graphic, but more
clinical no penis, but there's testosterone and that sort of thing,
and and who knows really where the I guess the
truth is in that. And there is some privacy. Did
do you feel like that was? How did you feel
about that? I'll leave it there.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Uh, Actually, the the girl, she's actually in my
weight class. Actually that's somebody I would.
Speaker 3: Have, Okay, So how does that make you feel? Then?
Speaker 2: Knowing that she has the X chromosome. I honestly feel
like that. It's kind of like I'm hearing, Okay, she
was really born a female, but she has the Honestly,
I feel like she shouldn't compete with Okay, okay, because
at the end of the day, you really got the
strength of a man. So it's like, honestly, you should
be competing with a man with I honestly think that
she should compete with men, yes, or she should they
should have a lead for those females like you.
Speaker 1: Know, because well I will tell you that I have.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm.
Speaker 1: Sort of more of a moderate person right in my
political views and things, and this has become political to
a certain extent. And I always think that it feels
unfair to have people like yourself who have dedicated their life,
trained very hard, reaching goals, which is a wonderful I think.
And we'll get into this a little bit I'll ask
more questions and to maybe repeat some of it of
what we talked about the last time you were in
but how boxing has changed your overall life and given
you a focus and a discipline and all this stuff.
And then to be rising up, rising up, feeling great
about yourself, feeling great about yourself, going to the Olympics,
and then you run into this and it feels unfair.
And I know Dave Chappelle, the comedian, did a joke
is if lebron became Lebrona and went to the WNBA
and scored one hundred points, yeah a night. It doesn't
feel fair. And I know that there are probably many
men that you would give quite a time in a
ring and beat. I believe that. I absolutely believe that.
But there's going to be somebody who's trained at that
level that it just it's a little bit stronger.
Speaker 3: You know, a woman.
Speaker 1: Backed out of the of the Olympics when they took
one hit from that person because they hit so much
harder than what she was used to. So it just
seems unfair to me. And yet at the same time, Algeria,
you got in there and kicked that guy's ass.
Speaker 2: That's another thing.
Speaker 3: I know, because I.
Speaker 1: Gotta think the competitor in us gotta be like, come on, yeah.
Speaker 2: So another side of me is like, yeah, it's unfair.
But at the same time, me personally, I wouldn't have
backed out of nothing. I would have gave it all
I honestly.
Speaker 1: I believe that I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I believe that I would have gave it all I
got and that would have made me turn up even
more that yeah, that would have. Honestly, the girl backing out,
I was like, I'm not saying that that's an excuse,
but she.
Speaker 3: Took one one good hit and I think, like.
Speaker 2: At the Olympics, doughs like you never got hit that
hard before.
Speaker 1: That's kind of like, you know, oh, I don't know.
I don't know if she's saying no, but look, who knows.
Maybe there was some theater involved in all this. I'm
not exactly sure, but I do think it's it's unfair
because you just, you know, especially at that level with
the same training. Even I think that men just have
are bigger, right, and that's why we we have difference,
and there's the brawn and right, and so you're gonna
have that. I love the idea, though, that you say,
I wouldn't have backed down. I don't think it's right,
but I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Have backed down.
Speaker 2: I would have given it all.
Speaker 3: What kind of fire is in that belly for you?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 3: What is the what? What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: What is it? You want? What's that it's burning in there?
Speaker 1: Because I can see it, Like you light up when
you just said you said I wouldn't have backed down.
Speaker 3: I saw you light up. I go, what is that?
Speaker 2: I just think it's just something inside of me. Like
I wouldn't say it's pride, but it's just something inside
of me, Like I'm just not I don't know, I
just got something to side of me. Like how do
I say, like you got.
Speaker 3: A little rage in there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have raige to control it, but I got
something inside of me that's just like I ain't going
out like that that type of attitude. So it's like
now I just have the mindset that this is gonna
stop me. So when I'm in a ring or you know,
I want it.
Speaker 1: So how much of that has translated to life for you?
The discipline that you have, that focus that I'm not
gonna like meeting challenges like life. I have this belief
life is never going to stop coming at you, right,
So it's all in how you handle it and how
you react to it, and when you feel good about yourself,
a lot of times you'll react better than when you're
not feeling good about yourself. So with you, I think
you got to be feeling pretty good. Two time Golden
Glove champion, working hard to get to the to become
an Olympic boxer, probably have a pretty good chance of
that happening. I would think, yes, and yeah, I can
see it, and I can see in there this like
you know you got it? So how is that translated
into life for you? Oh?
Speaker 2: I just supply everything y'all learned the boxing because I
feel like I get put in situations where God testing
me to see, okay, have you changed or are you
ready for the next level? So honestly, it doesn't get
easier to get harder. So I actually just get comfortable
with being uncomfortable because I know when I'm uncomfortable something
is coming. And I just try not to stay comfortable
because I know it's always somebody else out there that
want to be great or that want to be number
one too, So I just keep it. I just stay
on my toes and just stay humble and never be
satisfied with whether I'm winning or losing.
Speaker 3: Right, But talk to me, like, here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, at your job, do you think you perform better
at your job because you box?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying like you're more focused? Yeah, yeah,
you're more focused. Do you understand what needs to be done?
This is work? This is you know, even maybe in
your relationships your younger sisters in the studio right now,
like all these relationships. Are you better in all those
areas because you have this discipline and focus?
Speaker 3: Do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like I balance it out like at work,
the mental aspect, I don't let like I try not
to let stuff bother me or get to me, or
if something do piss me off or annoy me, I
just use that as fuel. When I'll go to the
boxing gym, I'll let it out there. So I kind
of just take everything that I face or go through,
and I just use it to go harder in the gym.
So honestly, when stuff come at me, that just makes
me get even more better.
Speaker 3: When it makes you get better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, make me more hungrier.
Speaker 3: What what is a daily schedule for you.
Speaker 2: So I really Monday through Friday, I'll work.
Speaker 1: And then what time do you have to get to work?
Speaker 2: At nine o'clock? So when I'm in training camp, that's
when I'm gonna do my morning runs. And as soon
as I leave work, I'll go straight.
Speaker 1: To Okay, So what time do you finish work?
Speaker 2: Around five o'clock. Then I'll go to the gym about
six thirty and then I stayed there till like nine
o'clock and then what and then I'll go home get
ready for the next day.
Speaker 1: Your home, and then what time do you hit the pillow.
Speaker 2: Like at twelve eleven o'clock?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then you sleep to win eight or not eight
seven eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: Like seven seven fifty am. I send my alarm.
Speaker 1: Too, okay, and then you get up and you go
to work yeaheah, and then you do that again the
next day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're getting so you're getting seven and almost eight
hours of sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but now closer to like because my fight
is in December. Yeah, closer to my fight in December,
that's gonna change because now I got to sacrifice some
of my sleep to get more cardio and you know more.
Speaker 1: Training and how far are you running?
Speaker 3: When you run?
Speaker 2: I run three miles and I do like a high pace.
I bring you down like as if I'm in a fight.
So I'll turn it all the way up, get me
real tired, and then I'll bring it down and I'll
turn it up. So when I'm running on a treadmill,
that's what I do. But when I run outside, I
run at a good pace.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's the uh, who's your coach?
Speaker 2: Coach?
Speaker 3: And you do the workouts?
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of this is self motivated you, right,
so you're doing a lot of this on your own.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, but they got to be proud as heck.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, of all the things that are going who's the
one person that you want to get in the ring?
Speaker 3: Is there a fighter at your love that Yeah, I
can say that.
Speaker 2: I want to fight. Yeah, Alicia Bombgarner. Okay, that's somebody
who I want to fight in the future. Katie Taylor.
I will love a sugaring with her. I sparred her
before and she's a real good fighter. Yeah, so that's
somebody who I want to fight. And also Amanda Surroundo.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well the whole boxing thing came about because you were
getting into trouble. You're getting into the fights and things
when I was young.
Speaker 2: When I was younger, anger issues.
Speaker 3: Anger issues.
Speaker 1: The boxing helps with the anger issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly it makes me. You'll think when somebody got
anger issues and that they will join something, it will
make them even more. It actually makes me not want
to fight people and stuff now that I know that
I'll compete at a high level. And I got kids
looking at looking up to me, and people that look
at me as a role model. So I know, I
got to carry myself a certain way. You know. I
wouldn't want a child looking up to me and think, oh,
you know, I'm going down the wrong path they're doing. No,
I got you crazy things. I'll try to set an
example for the kids. And you know, everybody not perfect.
But I just make sure I carry myself like, you know,
as a young lady, regardless outside of inside and outside
of the ring, because I'm still a woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I hear you. I kind of that. It's
a little old school. I like that, right, carry yourself
like a lady. Yeah, that's interesting. Who says that to you?
Anybody give you that your mom say that. Anybody say that.
Speaker 2: No, I just think God just in your hat is Yeah,
I think everything was kind of a little self taught,
or I just I do. I watch it like a
lot of YouTube videos, like people who are where I
want to be, and I learn and take notes of
things that you know, they they did to become successful.
So I like learn from different people.
Speaker 1: Okay, so these are almost mentors, but you're learning from
others how they got there? Yeah, what was their method?
What was their path? When you look around, may I ask.
Speaker 2: How old you are?
Speaker 3: Just turned you just turned twenty three?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I have a son who's I have boys
about your age. Guy just turned twenty four, and a
guy who's twenty two, gonna be twenty three. And it's
interesting to me. But there's got to be a lot
of people that you were with that you've seen go
down a different path right and get themselves into Does
anybody ever reach out to you going how did you
do it? Can you help me and my get out
of whatever I'm in?
Speaker 2: Yeah? A lot of like younger kids, Like when I
went to school and spoke to some kids, A lot
of like the younger girls. One younger girl reached out
to me because I gave him my Instagram and she
reached out to me. It was like she was like
kind of scared and shy to like come up to
talk to me, but she was saying that she h
she looked up to me, and she like wanted to
start boxing and like basically want to help her anger
because she says she got angry issues too. Yeah, and
she want to learn how to be a better person.
Speaker 1: So you you've gone into schools and talk to kids, Yes,
what do you say when you're in there?
Speaker 2: Basically? I I speak my truth. And you know how
some people go to speak to kids and they just
give them the regular like uh, the regular talk about
Like some people will speak to people and they'd be like, oh,
you got to do this and this and that, but
they never been through nothing or didn't come from nothing,
so they can't really relate to them. So I think
because I could relate to them.
Speaker 3: Did you go to the city schools I went to?
Speaker 2: I forgot that it's a school that got behavioral issues.
I forgot the name of the school I went to.
Last year, I went to high school and it was.
Speaker 1: A behavior it was for behavioral issues.
Speaker 2: Yep. The students I spoke to. They they wasn't like
a I think no.
Speaker 3: But when you went to school, did you go to
the city schools?
Speaker 2: I went to thirty five school when I.
Speaker 3: Was what was it like in there?
Speaker 2: I was, I was bad. I was wondering. Well, I
wasn't bad. I was just I would say I had
behavioral issues. I feel like a lot of times the teachers,
some of the teachers didn't like me, and I feel
like I was like in situations, I like, kids will
pick on me, and I would pick on the right back.
So I was always that type of person who stood
up for myself. So I would get in trouble for
stuff like that or for fighting. But a lot of
times I feel like some of the teachers didn't like
me like I always had. I used to get suspended.
It was times I got suspended from school and my
mom wouldn't even know, and I would come home and
I was And the one time I got on the
bus and I was suspended. This was an elementary and
I still got on the bus and they called my
mom the car and told her that I was suspended
and I can't.
Speaker 1: So you got on the bus to just go to
school because you didn't want to tell your mommy were suspected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to tell her I was suspended.
And this is when I went to Urban Choice Charter School.
This was in elementary, This was here in Rochester, and
I used to get in trouble all the time. And
then I went to thirty five school.
Speaker 3: How do you wish they handled that?
Speaker 2: I think more so probably had like classes like for
anger and inmate for kids and stuff and talk to me.
I think a lot of times teachers didn't really hear
like some of them would just I think they will
purposely like do stuff towards me or be mean. It
was kind of weird, like as a young girl so
or because I was like, you know, probably looked at
as the bad little child in a class. I was
always goofy and stuff. So I think sometimes pulling the
kid aside and seeing what's going on and stuff stuff
like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really really insightful because I think you're right.
I think sometimes it's hard when you've got like thirty
five kids in a class. I'm sure it can be
kind of tough, but you know, I almost feel like
suspending somebody from out of school. You want them to
go to school, you want them to like school, You
want to build them up at school. I know that
it's not always easy, but that should be the purpose.
And so I often wonder, are you better off putting
them in in school suspension and trying to structure that
so there's learning and things going on, instead of letting
them stay home, which is probably what the kid wants.
Anybody except you, because you even want to be home
with your mom. You sound like you got a good.
Speaker 2: Mom who would Yeah, mo, mom, she raised us. I'm
actually grateful the way my mom raised us, you know.
Sometimes compared to just new generation, I just feel like, what.
Speaker 1: Do you see in the new generation? That's an interesting
thing because you're young yourself, you're a young lady.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I think this a new generation is terrible.
They don't have like no respect and.
Speaker 3: No respect.
Speaker 1: Explain what that means to me because I have something
going on in my life that his I would would
have never saw things going this way, And I will
sort of allude to it and ask what you would
what you would want said to you in that thing
a situation?
Speaker 2: I think no respect as in, like when I was
growing up and raised like even it's like these kids today.
I think a lot of times some kids feel like
they're not heard or whatever, or if somebody disrespect them,
direspect them back. So I could see why kids.
Speaker 1: Think that way, but peer to peer. But when I
say no respect, there almost seems to be are you
saying no respect to elders?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think it's to adults, like they feel like nobody
could tell them nothing, or like even it's just or
sometimes they don't have the right people or parents that's
telling them or correcting them or disciplining them. I think
they're not being disciplined. And growing up, I was disciplined,
like I knew not to disrespect my mom. I knew
not to curse in front of my mom. It's like
now it's like kids are too like comfortable doing things
Like I'm twenty three and I still don't curse when
I'm around my mom or you know, or even talking
to my mom. It's just I don't even feel comfortable
cursing around older lady or anybody. Yeah, you know, I
just feel like it's.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with that, I do agree with that.
And I used to say things like, well, it's just words.
Speaker 3: Right. The words aren't anything.
Speaker 1: But I do think that people sort of look at
you differently, and that if you carry yourself different, you'll
be treated different. I believe that so much so that
I always when I had three boys, it was like
living in a frat house. Somebody was always thrown up,
walking around shorts, someone was acting, you know, no shirt on.
It was always a but they I was in the
emergency room a lot broken bones, people jumping off roofs.
Speaker 3: This is you know, they're boys.
Speaker 1: And I used to always keep a button down shirt
on standby because I felt like when you dressed better,
they treated you better. I think I really believe that
people always make fun of me. Now that my fourteen
year old son he got sick. We wound up urgent
care and then emergency, and I put on a button
down shirt to go to emergency only because I do
think they treat you differently. I'm sorry, and I know
that we're not supposed to judge, but we're animals at
our core, and we judge. And I just think that.
So it's interesting to hear you say I don't want
to do that, and when you say new generation, you know,
I'm old enough to be your dad. So to me,
you're the next generation, and you're different I think among those,
although maybe not. And because your sister is thirteen, right, yeah,
and you seem like you're very respectful, are you? Yeah,
they're very quiet?
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: I didn't you know why she was quiet because I
didn't have a microphone up. But I mean, my older guys, look,
if you had a disagreement with your mom or an
adult and things kind of got heated, what would you
want them to say to you to try to make
you feel like everything's going to be okay and we
can move forward. That's a tough one. And I'm being
a little vague, but I sort of have a situation
going on. I have a fourteen year old son and
things got heated. And when you talk about anger issues,
I probably not. Probably I do. And I haven't been
in a gym boxing, not even like when you came
in here last time.
Speaker 3: I held the mits and stuff.
Speaker 1: I haven't even been doing that lately because that place
I was at closed and so there's other things, and
I go, boy, I need to get back in the gym,
because I was like, ah, and I do have like
I think that I think any good fighter inside them.
There's a rage. There's a rage, and I know that
I have a quiet rage in me that I've had
since I was a young young guy. I had a
lot of things happened to me that along the way
that just sort of changed me. And I've got this,
you know, underdog angry mentality that sometimes and then when
you push certain buttons, and there are peopeople who can
right and and I say things. I mean, I say
things like I might be better sparring with my tongue
than my fist because I can say thingss quick and mean, and.
Speaker 2: I'm the same way. I'm the same exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, I look to say the thing that will
hurt you the most.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I try to. I don't. That's why
I learned not to argue with people because cut deep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cut deep, okay, truth be the.
Speaker 2: Truth though it's not me, just you know it be
the truth, right, I say it, just how it is.
Speaker 1: And then when I get that, when you get cut deep, okay,
if someone cuts deep at you, then what happens.
Speaker 2: I get quiet? And I got it. Like I'm the
type I hold I hold stuff in and let it
build up. And I think that's not a good way
to handle it, because sometimes you might you might ignore
stuff or I don't know, I'm kind of like I
wouldn't say numbed, were it's just like now I'm like unbothered.
Or if it bothered me, I just use that fuel
in the gym. So I just I get quiet if
something hurt me, I get real, real quiet because I
need to process my emotions and how I'm react and
all that. And I don't want to see and.
Speaker 1: I don't always get quiet because I'll come back with
that quick verbally, not physically, but verbally. And so what
would you want to hear from an adult in your
life who you had something where they said things, you
said things.
Speaker 3: What would you like them to say to you? Because
you know, I.
Speaker 1: Am, as it's been said, the grown ass man right,
and I should be able to not do that sort
of thing, but I did, So what would you want
to hear?
Speaker 2: I think account ability And a lot of times people
have a lot of pride and apologizing. So I think
just even because I'm a forgiven person, like sometimes I
think I could be too forgiving. I'm too forgiving to
where somebody else would be like, oh no, I will
never forgive. But honestly, because I'm a Christian, I believe
in forgiving people. So regardless of how people treating me
or didn me bad, I'm learning that the true definition
of humility and being humble is when somebody give you bad,
you still be good to them. And that's how you
stay blessed and you know, get everything you want in
life by giving somebody the opposite of what they give you.
So somebody, for instance, an example, somebody treated you real
bad or disrespect to you, you still being good to them.
It's real. I ain't saying it's easy to do. It's
very very hard. But I'm just working on, like you know,
just staying humble even in times when people test me,
because I honestly I feel like no matter what position in,
people always going to test you, or somebody always trying
to I want to try to bring you down. So
I think apology, but sometimes you'll never get an apology from people.
So learning to forgive people. That's not even sorry.
Speaker 1: If an adult said to you, look I sunk to
your level and I shouldn't have done that, and I'm
sorry and we'll work through this, and I am need
to be better and uh, you know, and I love
you and that's it. Will that go far away?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would forgive them. I'll forgive them, and I
think keep doing the same thing, I'll just cut off.
Yes at this point.
Speaker 1: You just yes, Yes, your younger sister is here. What
is your name, Camara? What did you want to say
about Algeria?
Speaker 8: I would say that Algier is a really great big
sister because she's telling me a lot of things I
did not know. Yeah, and I do have anger issues
as well, and I'm trying to go to the gym
so i can let that anger.
Speaker 2: I would let that anger often.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, shut it, shut it out. Yeah. Does that
a lot of pressure for you? Knowing that you have
people and somebody who loves you, like your sister looking
up to you. And is it pressure or is it not?
Is it just like, hey, I mean I'm doing this,
it's not pressure.
Speaker 2: And I'm just trying to balance, like focusing on my
training and my fights and then trying to put poor
time into her. Yeah, so like spending time with her.
That's why I brought her here with me, and then
I've been bringing her sometimes. I'll bring it to the
gym when I'm sparring and stuff. Yeah, it's just sometimes
I have my full focus on training, so I block
everybody out.
Speaker 1: Do you get tired just watching her? Like those workouts
gotta make you tired just watching, don't they?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: There's a lot, right did you go? Where the heck? Who?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 1: And I get tired just cleaning my room? Right? So
the next is your next big fight December.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to get on the car in November
and Maryland. I'm trying to find a fight. Like it's
been some fights going on that I have been on
the list to get matched up, but it's no opponent
for me. So okay, that's why I haven't for recently.
It's hard for me to get fights.
Speaker 3: So why is hard for you because you're too good?
Speaker 2: Sometimes? Is that some people you know back out or
it's no females in the area, so I have to
travel do a lot of traveling.
Speaker 3: So how are you raising money for that stuff?
Speaker 2: So? Actually, I was thinking about doing a goalfundme for
this Nationals because a lot of times I come I
come out of pocket for all the tournaments except for
Golden Gloves. The LBC will cover that but for nationals
and traveling, I have to come out of pocket. So
I'm trying to raise do go fund here and raise
to help the traveling expenses for when I go to December.
Speaker 1: Because you should put on like they should have you
at the gym to put on like a clinic, and
people can come watch you train, watch you spa, watch
you work Mitch, watch you do stuff. I think that'd
be great and it'd be a good way to raise
some funds. If you figure out if you have a
GoFundMe or something, please let me know and we'll try
to push it out too on our social media's and things,
just to help, because I think this is an amazing
thing for you, and I think it's an amazing thing
what you're doing and for everybody watching you.
Speaker 3: I really do.
Speaker 1: I find you as impressive as hell. I think that's
I think that did that focus, that determination, that self awareness,
you know, saying I have anger issues, but I'm working
through finding ways to deal with it.
Speaker 3: You know, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: When when boxing ends at some point, right and you
probably feel invincible, you're twenty three years old, you should,
but at some point, let's say you hit into your
forties and you go, what do you what do you
see yourself.
Speaker 2: Doing at forty? Honestly, I feel like I see myself
accomplishing being a world champion, giving back to my community.
I want my own boxing gym, you.
Speaker 3: Do, That's That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I want like my own boxing gym. Also
where I can invest in like kids who trying to
get to like national tournaments and like pour into them. Yes,
I don't want to be a coach, but I just
want my own gym and have coaches in there.
Speaker 1: So it's sort of your philosophy, right, your philosophy on boxing,
your philosophy on the nash, But you're the the You
go around and you maybe do a little instruction, but
you got coaches and you're running the business.
Speaker 2: And I'm running the business, and also like invest in
them so they don't have to pay for nationals or
you know, because a lot of the like the kids
who trying to be like great and stuff, a lot
of people, I feel like they give up on their
dreams because they don't come from a family that got
money that means right, So it's like harder for them.
So that's why I want to be the person like
because I know from experience to help somebody else when
you know, when it's their time. So I want to
pour in and be a mentorship to like younger girls
coming up that's trying to find their way through boxing
and you know need that person to look up to.
So I want to be like a mentor. And also
I want to do modeling.
Speaker 1: And were you already doing that?
Speaker 3: Were doing some modeling the last time we talked.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't did like actual modeling. I just post
a lot on my social media. I take a lot
of pictures and stuff, like outside of the boxing gym
when I go out or somewhere. I like dressing up
and getting real girly. So I want to do like modeling.
And I love dancing too, so I want to incorporate
dancing with boxing is a thing, yeah, so I want
to incorporate that in with boxing. I actually want to
go like to New York City and like take some
of the classes, maybe having like classes like Africans would do,
and they'll have like a whole bunch of people around.
They will be dancing and stuff, and they'll post it
on social media.
Speaker 1: I see, I see what you're saying. I think that's great.
I love that whole plan for you. I think it's
it's good. Do you do anything, And I'll ask this,
like have you ever heard of a vision board?
Speaker 2: Yes, I've been was supposed to make one. But what
I do I gotta. I just bought me a new journal, okay,
and I just write like my monthly goals that I
want to get done, like for this month, next month,
deceimper and like I wrote like a I wrote a
list on my phone as well too, of things I
want to accomplish in life period or my dreams and goals.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I do a lot of writing.
Speaker 1: Yes, writing's great, and that's great, especially the long hand, right,
it's something about going from your mind to the pen
so to speak.
Speaker 3: Do you read it every day?
Speaker 2: Well, recently I've been going back and reading it or
going back and writing, and I just put my visions
in my in my journal. And I realized I always
used to write like cause I'm on hands person. So
when I got like thoughts or I got a idea
or something, I write it and it comes.
Speaker 1: So I realized that what do you mean it comes
like that actually happens?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it happens like the stuff I used to
pray for when I was younger, I realize I'm growing
into it now. So it's all about timing.
Speaker 1: It's about timing, it's about being ready, being ready for it,
and honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just being just staying ready. Honestly, like staying ready.
You don't know when you're actually gonna be. Like sometimes
you might not even feel ready and that might be
your time. So it can be tricky. Sometimes you might
think you ready and that's not your time. I learned
that too, So honestly, that's why I'm just staying prepared
for anything. I'm just expecting, like anything that happens.
Speaker 1: I'm just how many of the things that you've written down?
When did you start writing things down?
Speaker 2: Since twenty nineteen, Okay, since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Since twenty nineteen, the things you've written down, how many
of those have actually happened?
Speaker 2: I'll say a lot of things as far as like
competing a lot and going to like more national tournaments,
getting more experience, being in rooms that I wish I
always wish to be in, like going to the Olympic
training Center. That's something I always wanted to do.
Speaker 3: So it's all happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So stuff it's slowly happening in time. And I
always because I had moved from North Carolina. I was
born in Rochester and I moved to North Carolina and
I came back here. I always wanted to come. It's
crazy because I was just reading on Facebook. I made
a post and it was like, I'm going to be
the first female from a female boxer from Rochester to
put on for my city. And I always wanted to
come back to Rochester and and just so when I
make it, people know I'm actually from Rochester. So now
that I so, now that I'm glad that I came
back here and I trained here, and I want the
Golden Gloves here so I wouldn't be in another place,
not the city, and it won't feel like it's not home.
So I think it was meant for me to come
back and give the kids here hope because you don't
see too many people from Rochester that you know, make it,
especially being from the city. Yes, so you don't hear
too many people. So I think kids need that, like, oh,
somebody you know they could relate to. I think that's
sometimes big too, because somebody can go to school and
probably you know, be successful and be like, oh, never
give up, do this and all that sound good, but
it's like it would go over their heads. But when
you could touch and relate to them, I think it's like, Okay,
if she doing it, I could do it.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me because I I'm a little weird,
and I believe you didn't have to agree so quickly
on that. Now I'm teaching, But what I'm saying is like,
I believe that our minds are very, very powerful, and
when we put it out to the universe, God, source, whatever,
and you stay focused and that something in our mind,
we can bring it to us. I'm not saying there
isn't work involved. You can't get, you know, from where
you are to being a millionaire, but you can get
from here to maybe fifty and then maybe one hundred
and then maybe you know what I'm saying, and get there.
And it is the journey. That's the journey of this,
and it's all part of it. And I think what
you're doing is great. And I love that a lot
of what you have written down has come to be
because you're focused and you know, and I think that's
amazing for you. Fantastic stuff, really really good. Nice to
see you again too. I really appreciate you coming in.
I know you have a lot going on. Yeah yeah,
and let me know on the GoFundMe for December? Is
it December?
Speaker 2: December twenty seconds?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so just before Christmas?
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna give yourself an early Christmas present. Yep,
going to knocking somebody out, a win, a win. Yeah,
let's get some ws a national belt. So this would
be for a national belt.
Speaker 2: Yep. You get a belt and you become the number.
Speaker 3: One, number one fighter.
Speaker 2: So the girl who's who fall an Olympic, so I
have a chance to be able to fight her in
that tournament.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and this is it, that's what you're coming for. Yeah,
all right, okay, all right? What's the music that plays?
Is you're in your headphones and things as you're walking
into the ring.
Speaker 2: I have reggae music.
Speaker 3: Reggae music. Who's your favorite reggae artist?
Speaker 2: I listened to a lot of dance hall, but.
Speaker 1: I wasn't so much of a dance hall fan. But
I'd love to booge you Bontan, Oh my god, I was.
Speaker 2: Just listening before I came here.
Speaker 1: I love Benny man, yep, Benny Man, BENNI man, it's
been many years for me, but I used to be
a little bit ves mister Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm big on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, gets you up. Whatever's gonna get you
in that right space.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate it. It's very nice to meet you.
It's very nice to meet you as well. Thank you
for coming in saying nice things about your sister. We
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lot of things about the southern border. Chris lives up
on the Canadian border and he's talking about people coming
across on his property. Well just listen, but it is
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Speaker 9: Come on now, the Bills.
Speaker 1: I'm making it. Wow, it was a nail bier.
Speaker 9: Come.
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin, so I will
go to the guys that know more. Dan Burrillo, Hello, Danny,
come on, God, un Billy. I don't know how you
feeling after that. I mean, they were getting manhandled in
the first half and seemed to hang in and come back.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I was on the roof you were, and then you
touched me. I'm like, maybe I'll come down from is
while you're up to clean the gutter.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 10: So, yeah, that was your rough first half of the
rough game.
Speaker 1: When you're watching this game, uh, does it come down
to coaching more or less in terms of clock management?
Why are we pay instead of running the ball to
keep them out of field goal range at the end
there to try to eat the clock a little bit?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It seemed like there might have been some questionable coaching
calls in clock management calls.
Speaker 10: Well, yes, I think they're worse questionable coaching calls. But
at the end of the day, you got to blame
the players on this one. I mean, you want McDermott
to be aggressive, you want him to be assertive, right,
but then keep in their zone all of a sudden.
If you want to criticize him for not running the
ball more than you can't. I mean, you got to
be consistent, and he was trying for the win. I
would have split the difference after that first played to
Coleman once that happened, once he did have the completion.
You know that Houston's got three timeouts, right, so you
want to make a burn them. And so at that point, okay,
you've just lost the time. He didn't make the catch,
you're deep in your zone. Run Cook twice, make Houston
use their timeouts, get out of the shadow of the
end zone and be able to punt the football.
Speaker 3: But they were.
Speaker 10: Aggressive, So I can't kill them for that. What I
can kill McDermott for is not challenge. You got concaid
catch earlier in the game and then calling a timeout
after a Coleman play where he was supposed to You know,
it was dispute whether or not he caught the ball.
And that drive after the fumble where they got the
ball back, Yeah, I gets Houston and deepen their zone.
And instead he's called a timeout just to look at
Watn't just challenge the call. You're gonna lose the timeout anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't do that.
Speaker 10: If you're gonna criticize McDermott for anything, it's those two plays.
Not necessarily like the stuff at the end, because the
end could have gone either way. They could have run
the ball to go overtime and lose them were killing him.
Nothing more aggressive late in the end zone when the
receiver was just stuck.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, I thought there was some clock management stuff.
Speaker 10: I know you do.
Speaker 4: I know I can disagree with you. You've got to
give yourself an opportunity to win. They didn't give themselves
a chance to win the strategy. If you talked to
most coaches, when you're down again, they're inside their five
yard line. There's too much risk involved on that first play.
If you get, if you get, how does it give
yards up the field so you're out of the end zone.
So then you're not risking a holding penalty in a safety.
You then advanced, try to advance the ball and you
be aggressive. But when you're there and you have that
first play and you don't get any positive yards, you
then try you want them to.
Speaker 10: Burn their time outs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I only Greg. I thought there was some questionable
clock management stuff. But Danny did bring up too the
not challenging the catch by Kincaid along the sideline that
certainly seemed like he did have control of the ball.
Why do you not challenge that in that position? Was
that a good call? Was that something that you figured like, hey,
it's a fifty to fifty call at this point in.
Speaker 4: The first Yeah, I think I think because it because
they called that an incomplete pass on the field. You
have to have indisputable evidence, and it didn't look like
he had it.
Speaker 3: It looked like.
Speaker 4: The ball rolled in his hands from the time he
caught it until a time he hit the ground, and
because the ball moved in his hands before it hit
the ground, then it would there. I don't think they're
going to change it because he's got to have complete
control all the way through the ground and he didn't
have it. He had it, and then as it went
down it looked like it rolled then he hit the ground.
Speaker 10: And then it moved again. Had he caught it.
Speaker 4: Clean and then it hit the then it would have
hit after it would have rolled after hit the ground.
Speaker 10: Then I think you can can challenge that and you
might have an indisputable evidence.
Speaker 4: I don't disagree that you try to use that as
leverage in terms of trying to show the guys that you're.
Speaker 10: Willing to put all this stuff out and maybe you
can get lucky.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But for me, man, you gave them the chance to
win the game in my opinion, and regulation as opposed
to then preserving the game and letting it roll out,
because they wouldn't have had the chance to do that had.
Speaker 4: They run the ball in my opinion, Yes, and then
and then it's a fifty to fifty. You know, it's
a toss in the coin. You know, they if they
go down and score a touchdown, then you lose. You
don't get a chance. But if they kick the field goal,
then you get the ball back. So I prefer that's
disappointing to me.
Speaker 10: It's frustrating. We had it, what a great comeback right.
Speaker 3: This isle.
Speaker 4: To then have something like that, where for me, that's
a coaching strategy, which I disagree with.
Speaker 10: I'd love to hear what of the.
Speaker 4: Other analysis, what the other coaches are saying about how
they managed that last minute. But I don't agree with that.
Speaker 1: Anybody else soiled themselves when they saw Josco down. Yes, oh,
I mean, and he didn't get up right away. I
got to tell you, my heart stopped for a second.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Dan, I don't know about you, but
when I saw that, it was reminiscent to his first knockout,
when Milano hit him in Miami like two years ago,
and it was like his his his left hand was
like rolled up under and it was like, look completely limp.
You could tell when they zoomed in on him.
Speaker 10: He was out.
Speaker 4: He did not look like he was conscious of any
like aware of anything that was going on. Uh that
that was very eerie to me because you when you
saw the replay, you knew it was because he hit.
Speaker 10: His head on the turn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And why do you do that?
Speaker 4: He had no way to stop himself because the defender
grabbed both his ankles and pulled his feet and he
just was like a he was he was like an
umbrella falling to the ground.
Speaker 1: Greg, what are you sipping there. I just saw the
edge of a cup. Greg said, is it fuck the water.
Speaker 5: Brother?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: The Pink concert, Now, I had friends of mine went
to the Pink Concert and met life and said it
was incredible.
Speaker 10: I'll want the.
Speaker 4: Call back in with this week, and I'll give him myself.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 10: They got Sheryl Crow's gonna be from the port today too.
Speaker 5: So here we go. Here's the.
Speaker 1: Nice look at this, I see it everybody walking in there.
Well that that's fantastic. Uh yeah, I love Sheryl Crow.
I've always been a fan, and she looks good. She
looks better in person than she does on any of
her videos.
Speaker 10: I don't know, man, she's our para.
Speaker 4: She she she hits a sweet stop.
Speaker 3: For me me too.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Greg, go enjoy the show. I don't
want to hold you up anymore, but we'll get you
love to touch base this week.
Speaker 4: Sounds good, Thanks guys, all right, see you love you?
Speaker 10: Bro thinks for me?
Speaker 5: Where with McDermott.
Speaker 10: I just kind of I love him, but he's killing.
Speaker 1: Me today, Yeah, killing me?
Speaker 3: All right? There he goes, there goes Greg Connors.
Speaker 1: Uh, Danny, I don't I I it's an interesting perspective
that Greg has because I sort of agree with that.
I go, what's happening with Clock? It feels like we
have Clock managed problems at the coaching side in season
after season.
Speaker 10: Yes, and gave a strong suit.
Speaker 3: What's that? It's not a strong suit, not.
Speaker 10: Sean mcer as strong suit. Yeah, I mean, but I
like I said, like I said, I think Greg and
I kind of agreed because I was talking over the
scenarios with my wife when they're in their end zones
watch I go, I'm like, wait a minute. So but
I said, I go, what do you do here? And
I'm talking to her and she's like, I'm thinking she's
listening to me. She's trying to shush me. But I'm like,
what do you do here? Do you throw? Or do
you run and force them to use their timeouts? You
can't risk what do you call it? Intentional crownding penalty?
If there's a holding call in the end zone, that's
an automatic intentional crownding. That's a safety. So what do
you do? And like I said with Greg, I go,
I would you could split the difference and say, all right,
if you get the if you get the first down, Coleman,
there great, now you're bowling the momentum. If you can't,
you got to run, make Houston use their timeouts, get
out of the shadow of your end zone, and and
move on. You know that part, You know, I agree
with him. I usedn't want to kill mcdero for not
being aggressive there when we asked him to be aggressive
last week and he wasn't against Baltimore a couple of times.
You know, clock management has always been this dude's issue,
and I think it's because it's a control thing. I
think he gets nervous. I think we all do at
certain points. We think there's so much on the line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.
Speaker 10: Yes, we play it safe. It's funny in nature. I'm
not killing him as a head coach.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that on the way over. I thought, Wow,
I don't know, in that pressure moment, you ever just
feel like you've got there's so much coming at you
at one time. I'm sure everybody's in his head set
and all that, and I would think that you know
a lot of the look. Each person has a job.
He is the head coach. He oversees everything, so when
the when the ship falls, it falls on him either way, right,
win or lose. He's either gets the well the flowers
as the kids say, or the or the ship going horns. Right.
Speaker 3: But the the.
Speaker 1: Tough part is it's Brady who's the offensive coordinator. And
Brady's got huh good.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, so, don't you think he
should get most of the blame on this as well
for making those calls or I'm sure Sean can override them.
But at the same time, there's so much going on
in the game that that's why you have coordinators to
take that job off, you know what I mean, handle that.
Speaker 3: Their job is to handle that. So I don't know.
Speaker 10: Ultimately, it's like when you always said the program director
of the radio station is responsible for what comes out
of the speaker. So he's the buck stops with him. Yeah,
so if mcdermah wants to run the ball, he's got
to tell Brady, no, just run it. We'll take it
to overtime or be aggressive and throw. So Brady's now
gonna do what mcdhermat tells him. He's his boss. So, okay,
we're gonna call three pass plays here, I got you.
They only tike sixteen seconds off the clock and Houston
still had all of its timeouts. Yeah, the funniest part
was that field goal. By the way, I don't know
if you saw this. As soon as I think Akers
went down on that last play before the field goal
clock stopped, there should have been another second ticked off.
Now it wouldn't have mattered, but they got a bit
of a home clock.
Speaker 1: What did they have two seconds? They had two seconds,
it would have been one.
Speaker 10: He had like wait a second, yeo sposed like to one.
Speaker 1: I felt like there was a little bit of a
Homer Homer thing going on, but look it wasn't. Yuh
and and Stefan Diggs showed up in this game for them.
He had eighty two yards I believe, Yeah, I did.
He had eighty two yards Danny.
Speaker 10: So here's the thing you have to Yeah, you gotta
give credit to that. And he had a hell of
a catch on that second to last drive over the
middle right where he had I'm sorry the fumble drive
when they drove all over, but like Miko Collins went down,
So to me, that was a perfect opportunity for Stephan
Diggs say all right, I'll be number one receiver, get
me the ball. I'll be the man, and he wasn't
It was Dalton Schultz was the go to guy on
third down, third down, third down. He was they who
kept escaping and the running back thirty three who's a Galilee.
Speaker 3: Whose name I can't pronounce me either.
Speaker 10: But like those were the digs had a few catches. Absolutely,
he was all for the guy where Bernard had that interception,
where like he didn't get in there and get the ball.
Speaker 1: The thing that was funny to me is, I I
know that we like to look at this and we
like to bring it down to you know, a revenge
game kind of thing. That sort of it's fun. It
makes it, it makes it fun. He wasn't a superstar
in the game, but he was impactful. I think Stefan
dicksons boss all the times. All Right, well, Danny, I
I appreciate you taking a little bit of time out
of your Sunday to give it to us. The next
up for the Buffalo Bills will be the Jets on
Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Sunday night.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and the Jets lost today. I don't know if
you saw the Jets loose today. I did in the Minnesota.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the game.
Speaker 10: I saw high reaction. He had three picks today. I
was in church for most of that game. I saw
the last pick and he had like he had a
lot of eye rolls. The honeymoon is wearing off in
the meadow Lands with him and Sala and with Yeah,
I'm celebrating too.
Speaker 9: I love it.
Speaker 10: I can't stay Rodgers.
Speaker 3: But I can stand Rogers. But I just like seeing it,
you know.
Speaker 10: But it is but like now, all of a sudden,
like the who handles the bills better than Robert Salad
does in the meadow Lands. Other than one game, his
defenses have handled well, we said, Josh Allen, pretty well.
Speaker 1: We said this was gonna be a rough three game series.
I was hoping that they were gonna maybe drop one,
beat Texans, beat Jets, maybe drop Baltimore.
Speaker 3: Was kind of how I saw it.
Speaker 1: Others had said they lose, they would lose to the Texans,
beat Baltimore, and beat the Jets. Uh, clearly we know
the outcome. They're down two of the three. Not not
where we want them to be, but there it is,
all right, Danny more analy I.
Speaker 10: Guess think about this game, though, you get there's two things,
there's two groups of people. You gotta blame your receivers
are terrible.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean they.
Speaker 10: Say that out loud. They missed Khalil Shakiri's not exactly
a superstar.
Speaker 1: No, but they did. They missed him. He's and defensively,
were they missed they can't it to the pastor were
they missing were they missing Von Miller?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I guess you could say that. But he
only like he only looks like maybe ten fifteen plays
a game. They missed a pass rush they got to
They got the scout maybe two or three times.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 10: He sacked him once, I mean, or they forced the
fumble an other time, or maybe he just coughed it
up himself. But you know, now, I'm not killing the defense.
I'm killing the pass rush because the defense made a
couple of big plays today kept him in the game.
I mean they it should have been twenty eight to
three at the half, that one where they drove down
the field and then they went forward out at the
very end. The bill stopped him on that fourth and one.
Defense did show up. They still need a pass rush,
but man like mac Collins sucks Curtis Samuel like they
can't get him into the offense. He had four targets
from minus one yards. Think about that. I know cage's
not getting open like what he had two or three catches.
Speaker 1: Maybe YEH had a great catch on the sideline. They
should have they should.
Speaker 3: Have challenged that.
Speaker 1: But either way, all right, well, Danny, I appreciate you
taking some time on your Sunday. Stand by, if you
stand by, if you will, my friend, I will you.
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Speaker 9: Don't drink coffee. I take tea, My dear, I knock
my toe stone on one side. You can hear it
my send when I talk. I'm letting English mon.
Speaker 7: In y.
Speaker 9: See me walking Downfi, walking, cane ride, mass.
Speaker 1: Taking everywhere.
Speaker 5: I'm letting English.
Speaker 9: Mount in York.
Speaker 1: Sting I'm a legal alien. We hear about a lot
of border crossing and illegal aliens, and it's a hot
button topic in the presidential election that is less than
five weeks away. And I think a lot of times
when we think of border crossings. And if you go
to an episode of the podcast that we produce here
at Bill Moran Productions Comcast, they talked to a border
agent who is a Southern Border agent who now lives
here in Rochester. But the southern border is where we
focus a lot of that on. However, there's a northern
border and there's been a lot of crossings that have
been happening there. And Chris Oliver is a gentleman that
has been brought to my attention and he was on
his local news up there.
Speaker 3: We say hello to Chris.
Speaker 1: Chris, how are you today? I am? I'm doing well.
I wanted to, uh, why don't we first talk about
exactly where you live?
Speaker 3: For people who made that people, I live in.
Speaker 5: Port Common to New York. My house sits five hundred
feet from the Canadian border. All that separates us is
a ditch and a barbere fence and spots. Mostly it's
wide open.
Speaker 3: Okay, I hear that Canadian accent Born and raised.
Speaker 5: There, yep, yep, been here all my life.
Speaker 1: Family are you you're a farmer there or your family
has a farm there?
Speaker 5: Yeah? My grandfather, Well, I'm I'm the sixth generation on
the farm. Now. My great great grandfather came over from
Ireland originally and bought the land and we've been here
ever since. We've had family across the border My great
grandmother was from across the border.
Speaker 1: So your great grandmother was Canadian and your great grandfather
came from Ireland and he wooed a Canadian woman to
come over. And there you go. That's very interesting. And
what do you what kind of farming do you do
up there?
Speaker 5: We have the twenty one beef cows and we put
up fifteen to twenty thousand small squares for horse hay
that we sell. Usually keeps us pretty busy between that
and a full time job that I have on besides this.
Speaker 3: What's your full time gig?
Speaker 5: I work at Alcoa Alca.
Speaker 3: What is Alcola?
Speaker 5: My first production?
Speaker 1: It's food production. No aluminum, aluminum production okay, Alcola Okay, gotcha,
illuminum production. So you're working forty hours a week at Alcoa.
Speaker 5: Generally it's usually thirty six to forty eight okay.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you're doing the farming stuff. Yep,
really when do you have time for fun?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: Winter, but we're not doing the haying and stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, because like we all think, like, hey man,
I love the warm weather months. But if you're a farmer,
that's it. I mean, let's make hay, while the sun
shines is a saying because of farmers. Really, right, hey
the sunshine? You're working all the time? Are you? Are
you married?
Speaker 5: Yes? I got a wife and three kids.
Speaker 1: Okay, And what has made you want to stay there?
Because it is it very rural?
Speaker 5: It is it's I mean, I live on a dead
end road. Yes, we've lived here all my life. My
family lives all around us. I mean it's I couldn't
dream of a better place for aise kids.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well, honestly I think all this, you know.
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: How about your wife? She from there originally too?
Speaker 5: Yep, she's here.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you grew up knowing her.
Speaker 5: Yep, you went to middle school with her?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Minute, when did you start kind of dating her
so to speak?
Speaker 3: Or showing in?
Speaker 1: Showing in.
Speaker 5: Ten years after school, ten years after She likes telling
everybody that I didn't want nothing to do with her
back in middle school, and now yeah turned.
Speaker 1: Out Okay, Well she had a glow up. Maybe I
don't know, something like that. Whatever, whatever the phrase is,
I'm gonna I want to have a.
Speaker 5: Mission in school that was keep my head down and
get out of there just as quick as I could
do serve my time?
Speaker 1: Is where I look serve your time? Well that's interesting. Hey,
lucky you knew what you were going to do, didn't you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Were you do?
Speaker 1: They have the FFA there the Future Farmers of America?
Speaker 5: Yep, they do.
Speaker 1: Were you part of that?
Speaker 5: I was not really more just something to say after
school and I my grandfather. I wanted to get back
home and help him out.
Speaker 1: And did you play Do you play any sports or anything?
Speaker 5: Not? Really, No, you just wanted to get, like I said,
to go there, serve my time and get home.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So how many hours a week do you think
you work between the two?
Speaker 5: Oh? Man? I sun up, sundown, sun up Sunday.
Speaker 1: All right, So, like here we are, and just to
pull back the curtain, it's a little afternoon on Friday
when we're taping this. What are you going to do
when when we're done here?
Speaker 5: Well, I just got off the tractor just mowing. Hey,
before I got on here, And as soon as I
get done, I'm going right back out to the field
to go, hey, hey, day off, my real.
Speaker 1: Job, right on your day off. And then you got
three kids?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 3: How old are the kids?
Speaker 5: Twelve? Nine and five?
Speaker 1: Twelve? Nine and five. So that's that's yeah, that's pretty active.
And what gender all one gender?
Speaker 5: Two girl? The girls are the oldest and the boy
one boy.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, break it up. I didn't have any girl.
I had three boys, So I don't know anything about girls.
Speaker 3: But I tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Look you know what, I bet they I
bet truly they are.
Speaker 3: I bet truly they are.
Speaker 1: Like my mother told me that because it was it
was me, my sister and my brother, and she would say,
you and your brother would gave me no problems. You
would tell me kind of what I wanted to hear,
and then you would go do whatever you wanted anyway,
like all kinds of stuff. And then my sister would
be very honest and direct and fight with my mother.
But my mother knew exactly what was happening.
Speaker 3: We were just pulling the wool over her eyes anyway.
Speaker 1: Uh. But we're here to talk about what's happening at
the border. And I want to play a little piece
that you were interviewed on New seven. Uh where's that
at of Watertown?
Speaker 5: Watertown?
Speaker 1: Yea, all right, so here is the news piece and
we'll take a look. Good, believable.
Speaker 11: That's how one Northern New York man describes the influx
of people using his land to illegally enter the US.
Seventies anchor Diane Rutherford joins US Live Tonight with this
story after traveling to Franklin County.
Speaker 12: Diane jeff illegal immigration isn't just a hot bush button
topic in this year's presidential election for Franklin County man,
It's an issue that hits close to home. This is
just some of the footage Chris Oliver has captured on
a trial camera he set up on his property in
Fort Covington. He says, all of these men, women and
children are illegally entering the US from Canada.
Speaker 1: What time of years? I mean, what month is this?
Speaker 3: What that was?
Speaker 5: A look at it? September fifth?
Speaker 3: So this is just.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, And the clip prior where people were because nobody
looks malnourished.
Speaker 3: Do they look like no? Yeah, all right, all of
them are.
Speaker 5: They're all very well. I mean a lot of these
people have come over with very good means. I mean,
they got a good junk of money on them. Okay,
you know they're not poor people. These are very well
off people that could be doing this. I believe correctly.
Speaker 3: Okay, here we.
Speaker 12: Go, he says. Border patrol has its own trail camera
picking up the same thing.
Speaker 5: Generally, the Border patrol is here pretty quick. They're within
three four minutes. Sometimes they're right at the end of
the driveway.
Speaker 12: The driveway is an unpaved road where Oliver's home sits.
That courtfield across the way is Canada. His trail camera
is a little farther down the road and just fewed
away from the border. This wire fence is all that
separates the two countries.
Speaker 9: He says.
Speaker 12: No one used to come around here, but that's all changed.
Speaker 5: This is unbelievable how many people have been coming across
and its class year.
Speaker 12: Year and a half, numbers from US Customs and Border
Protections show illegal border crossing apprehensions have skyrocketed along what's
known as the it's the border, stretching from Alexandria Bay
east through Vermont and New Hampshire. So far this year,
nearly eighteen thousand people have been caught entering the US
from cana So.
Speaker 1: Why do we think that eighteen thousand? And I think
they go on in the in the news piece to
say that they I think there were like three hundred
and sixty five. Yeah, in twenty twenty one, three hundred
and sixty five, and now we've got eighteen thousand huge increases.
Why do you think that is.
Speaker 5: With the policies in New York State that they've eliminated.
I know, there's like the green light project or green
light deal also where there's no repercussion for it. I mean,
you can just walk across that imaginary line and we'll
take care of you. The Canadian government they allow a
lot of these people to come over on a vacation visa,
so they have five days that they can spend in
this country in Canada legally, no problem. They get their
five day visa and walking on what would they get it?
They walk right, come right down. I mean, we live
an hour and a half from the Montreal airport, so
they fly into Montreal, get her eye down.
Speaker 1: And but I got to think that it's somewhat undeveloped
land that they're coming in Canada, right, is it?
Speaker 3: Wood? It are?
Speaker 1: It looks like it's probably very similar to your farmland.
Speaker 5: No, very similar to mine. Yeah, I mean there's a
house like the barn across the border here was my
great grandfather. Everybody great grandmother's uh where she grew up.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that was your great grandmother where she grew
up and she was Canadian yep, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's a thousand feet from my house.
Speaker 3: Yeah you ever did.
Speaker 5: You look in the old sugar bush. You can see
my grandfather's grandfather's old sugar shot and you can see
it from this side looking over.
Speaker 1: Really, that's kind of I mean, I like that kind
of history. I think that's very interesting. But uh, do
you ever just so you could go instead have a
foot in each country?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have dual citizenship yourself?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: You do not?
Speaker 1: Uh do you ever travel? I mean I would assume
like Montreal is an hour and a half away. That's
a that's a fantastic city. They used to have the
Montreal Comedy Fest. I'm not sure if they still do anymore.
And I love that. I used to go up there
for them. Yeah, I think. I think after COVID they
may have gone bankrupt. I don't know, but it was
a great thing.
Speaker 5: There's a few little restaurants we like to go up
to up in Huntington and go back, which is only
ten to fifteen minutes from here. I mean the kids
go out and get a dinner and we go across
probably once a month.
Speaker 1: Okay, it depends how hard is it for you? Not hard?
Do you have an enhanced license or do you have
a passport?
Speaker 5: I had in enhands and then we've gotten passports just
recently just to make it a little easier.
Speaker 3: A little easier.
Speaker 1: Right, So all these people coming in when you see this,
like because I'm watching the one piece where the lady's
yelling at her kids like run, run, run or whatever
it is. Are what is border patrol doing about this?
Speaker 5: Uh? Well that the video that you see there. What
those people did. They drove through the Canadian guys driveway,
drove down through their hayfield, got to my fence where
one section had Barbara fence to keep my beef cows in.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 5: They walked up to the fence and broke it, knocked
or broke the fence post over, walked up to here,
then yelled at yelled and begged my wife to call
border patrol. She we had her on camera, so she
already knew that they were coming, that they were coming
up the hill.
Speaker 1: So they were asking for border patrol. Yep, and what
can border patrol do.
Speaker 5: They will probably pick them up, process them, and the
border patrol because of the current policies that we have
have to take them, bring them to uh. They bring
them up to Malone or Messina and drop them off
where there's food, water and shelter and and they get
a they get a cord date.
Speaker 1: And it's okay, and that's uh and we're where. Boy,
that's interesting. So they get a court date. Where are
most of these people originating from?
Speaker 5: Do you know a lot of them from India? Right now?
We had Mexico, a lot of people from Mexico. The
people in the video, those were Irish Irish gypsies.
Speaker 1: That is what yep, did you say gypsies?
Speaker 5: They no, no, no, no, said they're Irish gypsies. But you
don't want to call them Irish gypsy's two of their
face okay, get pretty yeah whatever the correct term would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I never I don't think I've
ever heard of that Irish gypsies. But uh, it makes sense.
Speaker 5: Total of eighty three different countries that come across.
Speaker 1: Here, eighty three different countries, and they.
Speaker 5: Know that it's between Soulaine and I mean the just
wanting sector.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what it sounds like to me if I'm
looking at this, it's not so much a federal issue,
although I'll tell you, like I had been married, and
I guess technically I still am. I'm legally separated. But
my brother in law married a woman from the Philippines.
Speaker 3: He was a.
Speaker 1: Captain in the army. It took a very long time
to get her in the country and was unable to
get her daughters in because the immigration policies are such.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I.
Speaker 1: Don't know and everybody at the time, and I had
my head up my ass not really paying attention to
that process, right, But I would say that what I
would hear often was we need to revamp our policies
in some way.
Speaker 3: We need to.
Speaker 1: Make it I don't want to say easier, but less
complicated is the problem.
Speaker 5: And she didn't have a burst of She was born
in Canada and never had a birth certificate until five
years ago. Okay, it cost hers thousands of dollars to
finally gary birth certificate, and I'd hire a lawyer and
everything else. She'd been through the process, Okay, and I
get it took her a long time, but she did
it right, Yes, yes, it is a pain, and I
get it in a way, but like I mean, not
all these people are good people. That's why some of
them are coming across.
Speaker 3: Like this, not all.
Speaker 1: So you said there's eighty three different countries, and I
think the number along that what's it called the I
want to say Swanson almost like the meat.
Speaker 3: But I know that I know that wast.
Speaker 1: Swanton the Swanton border right, and there's been what was
the number, eighteen thousand, eighteen thousand, eighteen thousand, So I
know that if you watch go further into the piece
and people who can look for themselves. It's channel seven
at a watertown. And I think they did a two
part series with you.
Speaker 3: In my correct it is so.
Speaker 5: Monday and Tuesday night, and then I see last night
they had another thing with it. But they were talking
about the policies with Dan Stack, and I believe at
least to phonic, I can't remember. And if we had
dance Stack here, Dan came up and seen the area,
walked around, we showed them where the cameras were and everything.
Like he said, unfortunately, there's nothing that they can do
about it. It's above them, it's you know. But like
Dan said, he can at least if they're voting on
a border bill, he can say, hey, I've actually been there,
have you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1: So I think later in the piece there was a
person who had committed murders in Canada and I think
it was plural, like more than one yep, and they
picked him up in New York. But he had crossed
over on your trail cam.
Speaker 5: No, I don't believe it was on my trio camera.
He was caught just on the southern end of my property.
Speaker 3: Southern end of your property. How does that? How does
that feel?
Speaker 1: When he got two little girls and a little boy
who's five years old.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's.
Speaker 1: Unsettling, it is, it is?
Speaker 5: I mean how I mean you have people? I mean
if you're at your house and you got people walking
by your house in the middle of the night, and
your dogs are barking all the time, or you're looking
in your windows, I mean it's now. I'd be at
work at that time too, right, because I worked midnights
and stuff too. So you are one helpless Yeah, I mean,
we live in the middle of nowhere and I can't
I don't dare let my kids go outside to play
by themselves because you don't know if somebody's gonna.
Speaker 1: Walk by, right, I would Yeah, I probably be the
opposite to go just run, you know, the property gutter.
Speaker 3: But I hear you. I I know exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 5: You know why people say, oh, I mean the reason
I put all these videos out on Facebook was originally
because nobody talks about the northern border, right and no,
I mean there was people in my own town that
didn't believe this was going on. Yeah, and I said,
you know what, here, we'll just start posting everyone and
eventually somebody's gonna see it, and you know it'll be something.
Speaker 1: So what is the message you would like to say
to people? Because, as I was starting to say, New
York State is where they're coming in, and they're coming
into New York State, as you said, because we had
policies to try to help people, I think, you know,
asylum and these sorts of things, and you know, it
becomes something like here's the Here's the problem that I
see long term with with people is I don't want
to see human suffering and I don't want to see
it around the world. And if we can give somebody
this whole country was built on, as you said, your
great grandfather was from Ireland, as were the majority of
my family, right, all from Ireland. I don't know the
policies when they came here. I don't know if anybody
snuck in, I don't know, but I would say that
so we are a melting pot. And that's what this
country was built on. And I still believe the country
of opportunity, right, I mean, and sometimes you will see
as generations go on in America, you get you know,
I'll say softer and softer, and by that I mean
that life's become easy. Right. You know, your kid grows
up with you know, Netflix and the Xbox and a
huge TV and air conditioning and right, and there isn't
that drive to hey, you got a better life, and
someone there kind of cracking the whip going. You don't
know what I went through and I came here. I
put my ass on the line to come here to
give you a better life. But that's not everybody that's
coming in. That's not as you're saying, and that's been proven.
But it's a New York State problem. And so what
would you say to people who are voting, because I
often will say, yes, the presidential election gets a tremendous
amount of attention. But what really impacts my life more
than anything is my local elections and even at my
state level, and this certainly is a state level, I
believe for most of it.
Speaker 5: It's all the way across. It starts right out of
the state and goes all the way up to federal. Yeah,
I've had it. Like I said, Dan Stack, reach out.
He came. I've had at least a phonic We talked
to her on the phone about it, and at least
she took the time to show concerns. I talked to
Simla man Gray from Watertown area. At least he expressed
his concerns. I've reached out to the other side of
the aisle, our local representative, Billy Jones, and I have
not heard a single phone call back from him, and
I was told by their office that it's a federal thing,
not a state I told the lady, I said, if
it's happening in their own backyard and you're my representative,
you should be very concerned with what's going on.
Speaker 1: Right, it seems to me like I don't know, because
I didn't think I knew much about the northern border,
and certainly New York State is not the only one
that borders Canada. But I would think, like are other
are we seeing anything, are you hearing anything in your
research or maybe reaching out to people other states that
border Canada with this is happening like Montana's and you
know that little Wyoming Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: That's odd. And you know a lot of that is
because a lot of time, well they get a court date.
Here the last video there they had on Channel seven,
they're talking about how they get a debit card, a
cell phone and they go to a city. So in Rochester, Albany,
New York City, they're all down they had them.
Speaker 1: Down there, So that that's interesting because so that to me,
that's where I'm saying. It sounds like it's the more
attractive state to get into. Right if I'm absolutely I'm destitute, Yeah, right,
I can get I can get a chance to establish
myself in some way, which I think that that I
thought the philosophy behind that, uh well, is to try
to eliminate crime. Right, I'm not just stealing to feed
my family. Maybe I got it, but it becomes at
the taxpayer's expense. And then what also happens is if
you don't have healthcare, and you show up at the
emergency room, they got to see you, and that becomes
a burden on the healthcare and everybody's paying for that.
So I think this is important. Let me go to
the because I did start to ask and then I
interrupt myself.
Speaker 3: This is bad habit.
Speaker 1: But what things are they leaving behind on your property?
Speaker 5: We found money, a lot of clothes, a lot of garbage, jackets,
shirts all over the woods. We had a girl drive
through the Canadians cornfield across the border, drove a thousand
feet through their cornfield, got to the ditch, drove the
card into the ditch because she didn't see it because
it was two three o'clock in the morning, and not
Mercedes is now sitting in my driveway because they got
out of it and took off running and border trol
apprehended them.
Speaker 3: Okay, and what are you gonna do with the Mercedes?
You got a Mercedes, buddy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, high mile with Mercedes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just saying the Mercedes, you know you
could gotta I don't know it be something that you know.
I mean, what do you do for fun up there?
I assume you got some four wheelers a gator or
something a little uh side by side.
Speaker 3: You got a side by side up there.
Speaker 5: Yep, we got a gator and we go out riding
and sure, I mean a lot of hunting. Yeah, I
mean that when we find a lot of the garbage
when we're out hunting.
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Do you ever come across somebody trying to cross while
you're hunting?
Speaker 5: I haven't yet, but I've been back there and had
people walk out when we were back there.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's gotta be that's gotta be a little scary,
like only just because you're not expecting it, right, and
it's almost like startles you and you don't know. Have
you held anybody like with your gun up just going
just to see what they were doing?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: No, but I know what they're doing. I mean yeah,
Like I said, we live on a dead end road.
There's no reason for anybody to be coming out of there.
I mean, you know there's a road five hundred feet
on the other side of the border.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So that's why it makes it so easy, And that's
why I can guarantee that they are illegal, because they're not.
I know most of the people who live on that
side of the road, that side of the border.
Speaker 1: What when does hunting? When is deer hunting season start
in New York State?
Speaker 5: Right now?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 1: Shot most seasons right now, most season right now? One
is shotgun beginnings. I guess is that like h righty?
Speaker 7: Full?
Speaker 5: I think both starts in two weeks?
Speaker 1: Two weeks, Okay, that's what I was thinking. So that
did you when you were a kid, did you take
the day off from school?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I had with scheduled sick days, and I made sure
to use every twenty eight.
Speaker 3: That's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Wait, they had scheduled six days six days in your school?
Speaker 5: I did, Oh, I knew I could guessed twenty eight
days at school and I made sure to use everything.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, what is the message you would want to
say to elected officials and people are that are going.
Speaker 3: To be heading to.
Speaker 1: The ballot box so to speak to vote? What what
message do you want them to hear from from you
and your experience?
Speaker 5: I mean, put yourself in my shoes. Yeah, you're at
work full time. You have random people walking by your
house at all times of night. You don't know that
these people are good or bad. It's not a very
good feeling. And I mean whether it's Trump or Harris.
I mean, I know a lot of people don't like Trump,
but when you compare the two side by side with
like this issue here, track record shows Trump's a lot
better at it than Harris was. To me, I feel
he will do a better job than she will when
it comes to this.
Speaker 1: Issue, to this issue, right, Yeah, I can understand, uh,
your your feelings on that, and I can't imagine, you know,
it would be unsettling to have anybody just look. I
was on radio for a long time. I remember one
of my youngest son was born or out sunny day
and somebody, Jaggaby comes running into the yard just to
say hello, and my wife like freaked out. I can't
imagine complete. You know, you're trying to sleep. It's rural
voices carry, right, you'll hear that, you know, it's so
peaceful and quiet. Having grown up in a rural area myself,
you hear the voices and they carry at night a
little a little more like you're going. You hear voices.
It freaks you out. I mean, just think of your
own house, like it freaks you out. Are these people?
Speaker 5: You should feel safe in your own house? Yeah, at
this point you don't and.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: There's nowhere to be safe at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you have the cameras and stuff. Do you
have an alarm system as well in case somebody tried
to get into your house. Has that happened where someone
has tried to get in?
Speaker 5: Not my house. That happened at my sister's house. A
guy was trying to get up on their front porch,
tried getting in the house. Luckily my sister was able
to lock the door before he got in. Yeah, dog
wood was outside and I got after the guy a
little bit, okay, and then I called door control to
have them come get them. Yeah, so they ended up.
I mean, my brother in law, do you show the
guy a gun to get him off their stets?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And my nieces were right there.
Speaker 1: I mean that's and that's not something you want. Yeah,
you don't want your kids and now you don't have
you tried to talk.
Speaker 5: To the other interview one of the other interviews we did.
The guy asked my son or was asking me, you know,
it seems peaceful? Is it peaceful here? My five year
old look down goes it.
Speaker 3: Used to be?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's five. Yeah, he understands you know, hey, this
is not right, you know what I mean, compared to
what it was last year. You know, even to him,
he understands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many people do you estimate have come across
your property?
Speaker 3: Do you think this is?
Speaker 5: In the week? The week the week leading up to
Labor Day weekend? We had forty eight people on my camera.
Speaker 1: Forty eight people in that way in that one week,
in that one week. And how about that one week,
how about the year prior, let's go, you know, the
same kind of.
Speaker 5: Nothing, nothing, nothing, two years ago, nothing nothing. So this
is even I wouldn't even a dreamt that this even
would be a thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is.
Speaker 1: It's strange. The timing of it all is a little
curious to me, is it not to you as well?
Speaker 3: It's a little curious. I I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: But with an election coming up and all of a
sudden a few months before.
Speaker 5: You all you need to become your registered voter is
a address, so they cannot be released from border patrol
until they have that address, a physical address.
Speaker 1: Okay, So in your opinion, do you think that there
is some other entity that's facilitating people, facilitating this.
Speaker 3: Getting people into Canada?
Speaker 1: Like, you're right. Some I don't know. Call it the
message on the dark web. I have no idea.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it bothered me. I went voted lot or four
years ago. When I went and voted. We live in
a very small town. And I told my grandfather, he's
eighty years old, like I told him, it bugs me
that I went to go vote. I pulled out my
wallet and went to go show her my d and
she goes, oh, you don't need that, and I said,
you don't know me, and the lady goes, no, I
just need your address, and I said, okay, So I
gave her my address and I got my ballot and
away I went. So I told my grandfather after that,
I said, I know my uncle didn't vote, but I
know his address, so if I registered him to vote,
and I can think of this, and I'm just a redneck,
you'll bill or whatever you want to go with here.
If I can figure that out, why why can't I
just go to the polling station twelve hours later and say, Hey,
I'm this guy, here's my address, take my ballot and go.
Speaker 3: That's interesting too.
Speaker 5: Yeah I don't.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think. I know they always no,
they always compared, and I don't know if they do
this where you are, they compare the signature to the
last time, right, so when I sign and that I
get you know, at least there's something. Nobody's got my strumble,
but nobody's got my scribble.
Speaker 3: Man, you could write with your you know the guy enough.
Speaker 5: And you knew Yeah, sure, you know if I feel
like a family member, I mean, why not anyway? I mean,
if I can think of that, what else is going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I'm not that technological and I don't play much on computers,
and I can kind of drum that up myself. I mean,
there's a lot more people smarter than me.
Speaker 3: Mmm.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's very interesting. I do wonder if so
I would say what your message would be? Would kind
of put yourself in my shoes and think of the
safety of people. Have you tried to talk to any
of the people that are coming through? Do you ever
say what what's going on?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 5: I haven't and not. It's because border troll have told
us to stay right away from them. Okay, do not
make contact with these people, don't threaten these people. Just
let them go through and call us.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, right, you know, like hey.
Speaker 5: And today, like people have said on the videos that
I post, everybody, well you should start shooting at them.
You can't shoot at these people. Some of them got kids.
You got to have a heart.
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I think too, is like I go,
I'm a human being, they're a human being.
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not here. I get the track.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I've had gotten yelled at for
trespassing in woods in the past. We used to play
in the woods all the time, and I think somebody
came out once and right yelled at us. But I yeah,
I mean, you're right. You don't want to and you're
not there to just get All you want to do
is keep your your family safe and in the long run,
hopefully keep the country safe. And I can see that,
and as I you know, it pains me because I
do hate. I don't know where they're coming from. And
you see all the termoil in the world, and I go, well,
I'm only here because past generations came right, did the
ugly work, did the dirty work to make it so
I can sit here and.
Speaker 3: Talk to you.
Speaker 1: But but but there is a right way and there
is the wrong way. And when it comes down to
that sometimes, you know, taking emotion out of it and
trying to think of the betterment of everything as what
we need to do. And that's not always how we vote, right,
Sometimes people, you know you vote a little different. But
it's an interesting conversation, for sure. I wish you a
lot of luck. Nothing's been nothing's been stolen from your
property or has it other than the damaged fence. I mean,
that's a pain in the ass. Try putting up a
barb byer fence, folks. That is not pleasant or easy.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, especially when you're at work.
Speaker 1: And you go, I mean, well, I mean, did any
cattle go to Canada?
Speaker 5: Then I gotta pay do the hassle of getting them back.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, if they if the cattle had
gotten through, did they get through?
Speaker 5: No, they did not. We were able to fix it
before they got there.
Speaker 1: Okay, But if the cattle had gotten through and got
into Canada, is that like a whole legal hassle for
you or is it just.
Speaker 5: What? And then and then the other thing is to
get them to track them down, because there's hardly over there,
there's hardly any fences anymore, So try and catch them
and get them back here. Yeah, it would be quite
quite a hassle.
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, and beef is not.
Speaker 5: Beaf's pretty highering now, So I mean I would take
someone to say, well, guess what you yeah, profit for them?
Speaker 3: You know, Oh, I got you. So.
Speaker 1: In other words, possession is is all. Possession becomes one
hundred percent of the law in Canada. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's in Canada, but I'm just saying, yeah,
sure you probably not. I mean, yeah, why not it
could happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like a giant pain in the ass
if nothing else right and nobody has it, it doesn't sound
like you have much time for that, you know.
Speaker 3: No, no, there's better.
Speaker 5: And it's like on my videos, people thought that, oh
it's fake and I staged this, and I just chuckled
with myself, like, yep, I stage it. Okay. I got
a full time job plus a farm, and I hire
random people, dressed them up and have them walk by
my cameras for fun at you know, between midnight and
five point thirty in the morning, because I'm bored.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1: Well, I wish you a lot of luck, and I
know you got to get back on the tractor.
Speaker 3: I I.
Speaker 1: It's just something for people to consider, right, It's another
thing that I don't think we're aware of. And if
you're still trying to make up your mind as to
which way to vote, this is something to think about
if nothing else. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate your time. Thank
you very much, No problem, thank you, all right, good
luck there he goes Chris Oliver. Boy, what an interesting
story that is. Huh that is something very like I said,
food for thought, if nothing else